Cholesterol Meds

[youandme]

I’m supposed to take every day but I did blood work doing it every day and 6 months later doing eod and the results were almost identical so I fugured take it less for similar results just in case the statins are that bad for you. I don’t know what to believe anymore.

Yeah, a lot of different theories. EOD is a good idea seeing how it is a long acting statin.

Pretty messed up that there is so much confusion and conflicting information on proper treatment for health and longevity.

[Van_Bilderass]

Every diet you mention there are fad diets without scientific data. I go by what research and medical field says and not some pseudo science social media influencers eating only meat, bananas or what not. Same thing with the seed oil myth that it's inflammatory or what not. social media bs...

I'm simply saying there are different opinions. Trump and Kennedy changed the food recs recently and they have their own scientists offering "expert scientific opinion." It's often hard for common folks to tease out the "truth." I'm in that group too of course. From what I've gathered I agree it seems the panic over seed oils is unwarranted. "The science" does get things wrong too, things evolve, e.g. eggs and cholesterol. I don't often buy into huge conspiracies though.

BTW, for those tossing the meds, I know Citrus Bergamott has been claimed by bodybuilding forum members to help cholesterol. Of course, as another poster pointed out the retatrutide seems interesting in this respect. If hadn't had pancreatitis I would be on it.

[robcguns]

I'm simply saying there are different opinions. Trump and Kennedy changed the food recs recently and they have their own scientists offering "expert scientific opinion." It's often hard for common folks to tease out the "truth." I'm in that group too of course. From what I've gathered I agree it seems the panic over seed oils is unwarranted. "The science" does get things wrong too, things evolve, e.g. eggs and cholesterol. I don't often buy into huge conspiracies though.

BTW, for those tossing the meds, I know Citrus Bergamott has been claimed by bodybuilding forum members to help cholesterol. Of course, as another poster pointed out the retatrutide seems interesting in this respect. If hadn't had pancreatitis I would be on it.

I did the citrus bergamot for 6 months with a diet of just fruit and veggies and protein shakes and hours of cardio daily cholesterol didn’t move.

[Van_Bilderass]

I did the citrus bergamot for 6 months with a diet of just fruit and veggies and protein shakes and hours of cardio daily cholesterol didn’t move.

Ok thanks, that's anecdotal one data point

[robcguns]

Ok thanks, that's anecdotal one data point

Hahaha no prob. My cholesterol never moved except with the statin.

[Van_Bilderass]

Hahaha no prob. My cholesterol never moved except with the statin.

I think a lot of the Citrus Bergamot hype in the bodybuilding community came via Dante Doggcrapp. In general fitness enthusiasts are pretty hostile to pharma options and Dante also feels he'd rather fix things with herbs than drugs. I think if a herbal supp works it's also essentially a drug so I see options on a case by case basis, whatever works, pharma ain't automatically bad

I've had some prostate trouble, weak stream LOL, and I saw Dante recently recommend a herb from Amazon instead of finasteride. I might try it

[robcguns]

I think a lot of the Citrus Bergamot hype in the bodybuilding community came via Dante Doggcrapp. In general fitness enthusiasts are pretty hostile to pharma options and Dante also feels he'd rather fix things with herbs than drugs. I think if a herbal supp works it's also essentially a drug so I see options on a case by case basis, whatever works, pharma ain't automatically bad

I've had some prostate trouble, weak stream LOL, and I saw Dante recently recommend a herb from Amazon instead of finasteride. I might try it

I used to be a big believer in going the herbal route and I tried many things for prostate,cholesterol and blood pressure and everyone of them did fuck all.wasted thousands.but everyone is different so might work. Good luck.

[mops]

I've had some prostate trouble, weak stream LOL, and I saw Dante recently recommend a herb from Amazon instead of finasteride. I might try it

Unless Dr. Will Harris has confirmed it, I’d really suggest you look into the more common, but often overlooked, issue of pelvic floor tightness

[walkerblocker]

I think a lot of the Citrus Bergamot hype in the bodybuilding community came via Dante Doggcrapp. In general fitness enthusiasts are pretty hostile to pharma options and Dante also feels he'd rather fix things with herbs than drugs. I think if a herbal supp works it's also essentially a drug so I see options on a case by case basis, whatever works, pharma ain't automatically bad

I've had some prostate trouble, weak stream LOL, and I saw Dante recently recommend a herb from Amazon instead of finasteride. I might try it

let me know if it works, im a weak stream frequent pisser too

[IroNat]

What are your cholesterol numbers?

[Van_Bilderass]

Unless Dr. Will Harris has confirmed it, I’d really suggest you look into the more common, but often overlooked, issue of pelvic floor tightness
(like from sitting too long, squatting, deadlifting, etc).

You know what, I don't actually know what the issue is and your scenario is one I've considered but never got around to looking into it, whether there are exercises to strengthen the muscles and so on. Recently my PSA was normal; I was just always nervous about the fingers up the ass prostate test LOL. Perhaps they have other methods now

let me know if it works, im a weak stream frequent pisser too

Yeah I will. Here's the posts.

[walkerblocker]

What are your cholesterol numbers?

dont remember the numbers but I remember it said "panic high" lol
I just do not give a shit, i wont go back on the meds, let the chips fall where they may

heres the numbers from exactly 3 months ago
also test levels in there when i was taking zero trt, all i took was Status from Bluestar Neutricueticals

[IroNat]

I'll have to translate that to the Imperial System because I don't understand metric.
I think this is right.
Your total cholesterol and test is ok but your triglycerides and HDL are whacked.
Maybe someone can check if I converted it correctly.

You can definitely improve this with lifestyle changes.  You probably already did with what you've been doing.

   
Total cholesterol         5.14 mmol/L         199 mg/dL

Triglycerides              5.06 mmol/L         448 mg/dL

HDL                          0.60 mmol/L         23 mg/dL

Test                           23.66 nmol/L        682 ng/dL

I used these converters:

https://www.calculatorway.com/cholesterol-mmol-l-to-mg-dl-calculator/

https://unitslab.com/node/136

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Should you worry about high triglycerides?

https://www.health.harvard.edu/heart-health/should-you-worry-about-high-triglycerides

What causes high triglyceride levels?

Factors that can raise your triglyceride level include:

    Being overweight or having obesity
    Diabetes
    Cigarette smoking
    Excessive alcohol use
    Certain medicines
    An underactive thyroid (hypothyroidism)
    Some genetic disorders

How to lower high triglyceride levels

Many of the steps you should take to lower triglycerides are the same ones you should take to protect your heart and health overall. Your doctor will advise you of measures you can take to lower high triglycerides. Some of these steps may include:

    Exercise regularly
    Lose weight
    Avoid sugar/refined carbs
    Limit alcohol intake
    Quit smoking
    Get enough sleep
    Manage stress levels.

How to lower triglyceride levels with medication

If you're taking a statin to lower your LDL, one side benefit may be reduced triglyceride levels. Depending on the dose, statins can lower triglycerides by 20%–40%.

The omega-3 fats in fish and fish oil capsules are another triglyceride-lowering option. For a very high triglyceride level, your doctor can prescribe a high-dose omega-3 medication.

[Grape Ape]

I'll have to translate that to the Imperial System because I don't understand metric.
I think this is right.
Your total cholesterol and test is ok but your triglycerides and HDL are whacked.
Maybe someone can check if I converted it correctly.

You can definitely improve this lifestyle changes.  You probably already did with what you've been doing.

   
Total cholesterol         5.14 mmol/L         199 mg/dL

Triglycerides              5.06 mmol/L         448 mg/dL

HDL                          0.60 mmol/L         23 mg/dL

Test                           23.66 nmol/L        682 ng/dL

I used these converters:

https://www.calculatorway.com/cholesterol-mmol-l-to-mg-dl-calculator/

https://unitslab.com/node/136

>

Should you worry about high triglycerides?

https://www.health.harvard.edu/heart-health/should-you-worry-about-high-triglycerides

What causes high triglyceride levels?

Factors that can raise your triglyceride level include:

    Being overweight or having obesity
    Diabetes
    Cigarette smoking
    Excessive alcohol use
    Certain medicines
    An underactive thyroid (hypothyroidism)
    Some genetic disorders

How to lower high triglyceride levels

Many of the steps you should take to lower triglycerides are the same ones you should take to protect your heart and health overall. Your doctor will advise you of measures you can take to lower high triglycerides. Some of these steps may include:

    Exercise regularly
    Lose weight
    Avoid sugar/refined carbs
    Limit alcohol intake
    Quit smoking
    Get enough sleep
    Manage stress levels.

How to lower triglyceride levels with medication

If you're taking a statin to lower your LDL, one side benefit may be reduced triglyceride levels. Depending on the dose, statins can lower triglycerides by 20%–40%.

The omega-3 fats in fish and fish oil capsules are another triglyceride-lowering option. For a very high triglyceride level, your doctor can prescribe a high-dose omega-3 medication.

Bro has been crushing the Airdyne like a machine for about a year, so it's not exercise.

[walkerblocker]

Bro has been crushing the Airdyne like a machine for about a year, so it's not exercise.

me? no i havent
for nearly 2 years ive been doing meathead lifting 1 day then treadmill next day repeat repeat
I only jumped on the AB a week ago and the circuit lifting

[Grape Ape]

me? no i havent
for nearly 2 years ive been doing meathead lifting 1 day then treadmill next day repeat repeat
I only jumped on the AB a week ago and the circuit lifting

My bad, thought you were doing some airdyne stuff.

My triglycerides got out of whack and still nobody's been able to explain why.

[IroNat]

My bad, thought you were doing some airdyne stuff.

My triglycerides got out of whack and still nobody's been able to explain why.

My triglycerides dropped dramatically when I cut way back on carbs, seed oils, and sugars.

[robcguns]

My dad’s triglycerides have been around 1000 for 30+ years. Also cholesterol in the 5-700.

[IroNat]

My dad’s triglycerides have been around 1000 for 30+ years. Also cholesterol in the 5-700.

Amazing.
It's all bullsh*t to sell pharma.

[Grape Ape]

My triglycerides dropped dramatically when I cut way back on carbs, seed oils, and sugars.

I barely have seed oils or sugar, if any.

My carbs are moderate, but come from good sources.

[deadz]

I barely have seed oils or sugar, if any.

My carbs are moderate, but come from good sources.

Any peanut butter natural or other?

[Grape Ape]

Any peanut butter natural or other?

Not really now, but did used have 1-2 TBSP of Teddie PB daily.

Could that do it?

[deadz]

Not really now, but did used have 1-2 TBSP of Teddie PB daily.

Could that do it?

I was eating a couple of TBSP of natural PB daily and it jacked up my Triglycerides.

[IroNat]

I barely have seed oils or sugar, if any.

My carbs are moderate, but come from good sources.

Like what?
How many grams per day?

[IroNat]

I was eating a couple of TBSP of natural PB daily and it jacked up my Triglycerides.

What else did you eat?

What ingredients are in the natural pb you ate?
Natural pb doesn't always mean just peanuts.