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Which was a worst discovery ??
Dzulboy Belly Ring or DaddyWaddy's SkinnyMini ??
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i would say my ring caus ei dint; know abou tth eother thing but i don;t regret it caus ethat stupid ass thing go tme more head from girls then.............. shit i can;t even think of analogy it's weird how something like that works i never would have guessed it myself
but i know it does look gay in retrospect
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i would say my ring caus ei dint; know abou tth eother thing but i don;t regret it caus ethat stupid ass thing go tme more head from girls then.............. shit i can;t even think of analogy it's weird how something like that works i never would have guessed it myself
but i know it does look gay in retrospect
Wor d of advice...if you want to throwup open the link in the thread titled "Found older pictures of Daddywaddie"
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i would say my ring caus ei dint; know abou tth eother thing but i don;t regret it caus ethat stupid ass thing go tme more head from girls then.............. shit i can;t even think of analogy it's weird how something like that works i never would have guessed it myself
but i know it does look gay in retrospect
What's the magnitude of the integer that represents your IQ?
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What's the magnitude of the integer that represents your IQ?
I think even dzulboy would admit that was pretty funny.
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I think even dzulboy would admit that was pretty funny.
He is googling right now trying to figure out what Nordic is talking about.
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I think even dzulboy would admit that was pretty funny.
it was, esp caus eit doesn;t make sense
my posts idon;t punctuate or spell check no time for love doctor jones i fyou don;t like it don;t read it and i do it to piss people off it seems to work well
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my posts idon;t punctuate or spell check no time for love doctor jones
I don't even have the slightest idea what this means.
Can anyone decipher the meaning of this?
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I don't even have the slightest idea what this means.
Can anyone decipher the meaning of this?
Ok,, what is funny now is; the more you guys complain, the worse i am gonna type.... get it? ;D
and just for the record i had a schoalarship to college.......... academic lol ;D
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i would say my ring caus ei dint; know abou tth eother thing but i don;t regret it caus ethat stupid ass thing go tme more head from girls then.............. shit i can;t even think of analogy it's weird how something like that works i never would have guessed it myself
but i know it does look gay in retrospect
Look at it this way: you can just take it out and never wear it again. What is shitty is all those 'tough' guys and their tribal tats. I bet every one to a man regrets having that done. :)
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Ok,, what is funny now is; the more you guys complain, the worse i am gonna type.... get it? ;D
and just for the record i had a schoalarship to college.......... academic lol ;D
Barbara's Cosmotology University doesn't count.
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Ok,, what is funny now is; the more you guys complain, the worse i am gonna type.... get it? ;D
and just for the record i had a schoalarship to college.......... academic lol ;D
I honestly don't know what that whole "no time for love doctor jones" meant.
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it was, esp caus eit doesn;t make sense
my posts idon;t punctuate or spell check no time for love doctor jones i fyou don;t like it don;t read it and i do it to piss people off it seems to work well
You don't need to do spellcheck to spell or punctuate better than you. Have a monkey type out your posts.
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It was Vince Goodrum finding Getbig.
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S pellch eck is ove rrate d. J;ust a sk d zul;bo y
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Finding out the truth about 911 was a very sad day.
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Finding out the truth about 911 was a very sad day.
Will it make you vote democrat? :-X
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Ok,, what is funny now is; the more you guys complain, the worse i am gonna type.... get it? ;D
and just for the record i had a schoalarship to college.......... academic lol ;D
You spelled scholarship wrong...
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Will it make you vote democrat? :-X
No. I may vote libertarian. I may not vote. I'm a diehard repub who is suddenly very much without a party.
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LOL @ the thread
aw man you guys get funnier and funnier everyday bros ;D
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No. I may vote libertarian. I may not vote. I'm a diehard repub who is suddenly very much without a party.
I think the democrats will come back into power in the next election.
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You spelled scholarship wrong...
yea i know ............ ;D
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No. I may vote libertarian. I may not vote. I'm a diehard repub who is suddenly very much without a party.
your to blame for my gas then? The other gas....... i want a rebate
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I think the democrats will come back into power in the next election.
36% of Americans now believe 911 was an inside job, committed by our own govt. I think that will play into the election a lot. Some Dems were obviously in on it, but they'll be the first to throw the bushadmin under the bus for it.
BTW - O'Reilly Factor on FOX in 10 minutes has a professor teaching 911 alternative theories in his classroom.
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36% of Americans now believe 911 was an inside job, committed by our own govt. I think that will play into the election a lot. Some Dems were obviously in on it, but they'll be the first to throw the bushadmin under the bus for it.
BTW - O'Reilly Factor on FOX in 10 minutes has a professor teaching 911 alternative theories in his classroom.
Lol, I've seen a bit of that O'Reilly here across the pond, that guy is crazy.
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Which was a worst discovery ??
Dzulboy Belly Ring or DaddyWaddy's SkinnyMini ??
Great idea with the belly button piercing. I'm considering it.
YIP
Zack
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36% of Americans now believe 911 was an inside job, committed by our own govt. I think that will play into the election a lot. Some Dems were obviously in on it, but they'll be the first to throw the bushadmin under the bus for it.
BTW - O'Reilly Factor on FOX in 10 minutes has a professor teaching 911 alternative theories in his classroom.
hey where did you get this 35% number. im not doubting you read it somewhere, but where, since i would like to read it too. this is not a jab at your post or anything, im being serious.
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hey where did you get this 35% number. im not doubting you read it somewhere, but where, since i would like to read it too. this is not a jab at your post or anything, im being serious.
A third of U.S. public believes 9/11 conspiracy theory
By THOMAS HARGROVE and GUIDO H. STEMPEL III
Scripps Howard News Service
02-AUG-06
More than a third of the American public suspects that federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them so the United States could go to war in the Middle East, according to a new Scripps Howard/Ohio University poll.
The national survey of 1,010 adults also found that anger against the federal government is at record levels, with 54 percent saying they "personally are more angry" at the government than they used to be.
Widespread resentment and alienation toward the national government appears to be fueling a growing acceptance of conspiracy theories about the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
Suspicions that the 9/11 attacks were "an inside job" _ the common phrase used by conspiracy theorists on the Internet _ quickly have become nearly as popular as decades-old conspiracy theories that the federal government was responsible for President John F. Kennedy's assassination and that it has covered up proof of space aliens.
Seventy percent of people who give credence to these theories also say they've become angrier with the federal government than they used to be.
Thirty-six percent of respondents overall said it is "very likely" or "somewhat likely" that federal officials either participated in the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon or took no action to stop them "because they wanted the United States to go to war in the Middle East."
http://www.shns.com/shns/g_index2.cfm?action=detail&pk=CONSPIRACY-08-02-06
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36% of Americans now believe 911 was an inside job, committed by our own govt. I think that will play into the election a lot. Some Dems were obviously in on it, but they'll be the first to throw the bushadmin under the bus for it.
BTW - O'Reilly Factor on FOX in 10 minutes has a professor teaching 911 alternative theories in his classroom.
79% of Americans consider themselves Christians . this means a majority of people believe in a guy who has a virgin for a mother and a ghost for a father. most people aren't that bright.
How about the first time they tried to blow-up the World Tarde Center in 93? was that the responsibility of the Clinton Adminstration? how about the attack of the U.S.S. Cole? Al Jezzera released the tape of Bin Laden celebrating the work of his comrades after 9/11 happened. come on get serious.
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Yeah I dont think that theory has any credibility given so many lives were lost...
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79% of Americans consider themselves Christians . this means a majority of people believe in a guy who has a virgin for a mother and a ghost for a father. most people aren't that bright.
Problem with that, is that there are hundreds of engineers, physicists, and chemists who have studied the evidence and come to the conclusion that bombs brought down the towers. Hundreds of them - http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/WhoAreWe.html
How about the first time they tried to blow-up the World Tarde Center in 93? was that the responsibility of the Clinton Adminstration? how about the attack of the U.S.S. Cole? Al Jezzera released the tape of Bin Laden celebrating the work of his comrades after 9/11 happened. come on get serious.
The "mastermind" of the 93 attacks has a tape recording of the head of the NY FBI Office, giving him the truck and explosives. He tape recorded it. FBI guy said it was just a test, then gave them live explosives.
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Problem with that, is that there are hundreds of engineers, physicists, and chemists who have studied the evidence and come to the conclusion that bombs brought down the towers. Hundreds of them - http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/WhoAreWe.html
The "mastermind" of the 93 attacks has a tape recording of the head of the NY FBI Office, giving him the truck and explosives. He tape recorded it. FBI guy said it was just a test, then gave them live explosives.
Some express concern that individual members of the scholars group and its website are promoting theories or speculation not shared by all members of the scholars group nor the 9/11 Truth Movement (such as the idea that military drone planes were used in the attacks, or that Flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon[15]) and may thus discredit the movement [16], [17],[18]. Other critics, such as Daryl Bradford Smith[19], believe that members of the Scholars group use 'deliberate deception' by promoting theories which involve hydrogen bombs[20] and links to sites promoting holographic blue sceen planes.[21]
Although the 'Resources' page on the scholars' website states, "We do not necessarily endorse or concur with conclusions or opinions expressed here, but we think that they provide suggestive and stimulating resources for further contemplation," the website provides neither information nor links to both sides of the Pentagon issue, which many regard as extremely divisive within the movement.[citation needed] By only citing the theory that American Airlines Flight 77 could not have crashed at the Pentagon, with no counter argument, the Scholars site reflects neither the diversity within the scholars nor the 9/11 truth movement itself.[citation needed]
Another criticism is based on the "member list" viewable at the website. Detractors[citation needed] point to the following "breakdown" of the scientific disciplines the various members have:
Philosophy, 9 members.
7 with no academic discipline
English/literature 5 members.
Psychology 5 members.
Physics 5 members.
Theology 4 members.
Humanities 3 members.
Engineers 2 members.
They[citation needed] also point to the fact there are 0 Structural Engineers and the few Engineers have little relevant work with the appropriate discipline, for example Judy Wood, who has focused her work on the stresses of dentistry.
Great engineers looking into this one lol one works on the stresses of dentistry lol a whos-who medicoare scholars with too much time on their hands . come Rob you don't seriously by this?
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Problem with that, is that there are hundreds of engineers, physicists, and chemists who have studied the evidence and come to the conclusion that bombs brought down the towers. Hundreds of them - http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/WhoAreWe.html
The "mastermind" of the 93 attacks has a tape recording of the head of the NY FBI Office, giving him the truck and explosives. He tape recorded it. FBI guy said it was just a test, then gave them live explosives.
You know, a very valid argument could be made that conspiracy theorism grows like weed in the US, and that repeatedly over and over again, people tries to find alternative explanations for just about anything (Elvis, Moonlanding, John Lennon, JFK, Holocaust, area 51)
And there is this idea that The Government is trying to "cover up something". It's a big cover up, and we know it!!!
You'll find many examples of this in movies and TV series, such as The X files, or Alias, to name two series where there is a shadow organisation or hidden agendas or whatever.
But.
Washington has to be more open. Everything that isn't classified should be logged and available to the public.
And when the conspiracy theorists gets their shtick going, what are Washington doing then? Doing the sensible thing by making sure it all can be thoroughly looked at by these wackos?
NOOOOO.
They necessarily have to add fuel to the fire, and do a close down.
Dumb fcuks.
Seems like the Republicans really, really wants Hillary in the White House next term.
The Republicans are gonna match some half ass lamer against her too, so she can't lose, like Condi Rice.
Everyone, from Pat Robertson via O'Reilly to Bush and Cheney is campaigning to get her ass in that building.
Now, that's a conspiracy worth looking into... 8)
YIP
Zack
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3804970279512923290&q=911+june+2006
Dr Judy Wood, PhD. - Summarized bby 240, just for you
----- She starts with her background. Civil engineering. Mechanical engineering using composite materials. Worked at NASA. Got the PhD in Theroerical & Practical Engineering Applications from Virginia tech. Did her dissertation on thermal stresses.
----- On 911, she was bothered by how the towers came down. Building was unraveling. Didn't make sense to her. Mentioned the similarity of the towers' structure to trees' - they don't turn into sawdust when they fall - they break. The planes hitting the towers were like a bullet shot into a tree.
----- Point #1 - There isn't enough potential energy from the falling material to pulverize concrete. This makes perfect sense. No matter how hot, or how heavy the materials were, they did not possess the energy to pulverize concrete. Also, not enought energy to buckle columns. And CERTAINLY not enough energy to do both. This from an expert in the field.
----- Point #2 - How did it collapse so uniformly when the fire was distributed so unevenly?
----- Point #3 - Pancake theory - assuming no resistance - It still would have consisted of a series of freefalls, as each floor destroys the one below it. Given no time for pulverization or buckling of columns, it STILL would have taken 31 seconds.
----- Point #4 - Floors were blown out many floors BELOW the debris cloud - ensuring no friction. The outward explosion - steel beams being blasted upwards and outwards - was a smokescreen.Without the smoke, we could have seen a consistent pattern of horizontal mushroom clouds, all the way down. Plus, the steel that was ejected was solid, not melted as it should have been under their theory.
-----Point #5 - In order to get the building down in ten seconds, here is what had to have happened: The 100th floor has to start moving BEFORE the 110th floor hit it. This way, it does not impede its motion at all, and it able to adhieve the near freefall speed that it achieved
(start to finish in 9.2 seconds). The buildings were blown up one floor at a time from the top down - there was NO air resistance. The building was actually destroyed in the air, floor by floor, sequentially.
----- Point #6 - The NTSB has not fulfilled its obligations according to the law. Frank Gayle of the NTSB was not able to answer her questions on the physics of that day, but pushed the report through anyway. He provided unreasonable responses to what happened to the fireproofing. He claimed that all of the asbestos fireproof coating- asymmetrical fires and damage- failed at once. This is the only way the collapse would be symmetrically. "Gravity is symmterical" was his response. however the matter meeting the gravity is ONLY symmetrical when all matter above it is equal. Fireproofing on the central columns dispels this theory. Listen to 27:00 of clip for more detail. when asked for scientific analysis, the NTBS declined. He ignored both facts and analysis and passed the buck.-
---- Point #7 - ARUB (world building conglomerate) was the group which put out the pancake theory - There was a team of people pre-stationed in NY, completely prepared for interviews that morning. They had info and materials ready for the media right after it happened. Comparisons were made to the JFK story - how the media had the pre-planned story with impossible levels of details right after shooting. Just like 911.
----- Point #8 - One professor at New Mexico Tech received an $85 million grant to change his research. He went from anti-belief to pro-belief in one week.
----- Point #9 - No pancake. Would have looked more like an avalanche. Pancake theory would not create the massive dust cloud. How tall would the pile of rubble had been? 10 to 30 stories high- and wide- being the 110 floors, piled up and falling out in the avalance manner. Observers were stunned that 110 floors of building were changed to fine dust. It just makes no sense to this PhD.
----- Point #10 - Kinetic energy is addressed. There wasn't enough momentum to develop the kinetic energy to EITHER collapse the columns, or pulverize the concrete. Not one. And not both.
----- Point #11 - Why is the structural engineering community so quiet on the subject? The physics of the collapse is so simple to this group.
----- Point #12 - Teams of engineers had free access to the building to do "recabling" in the 2 weeks before the attacks. Surprise security inspections in which teams of men entered the building and had free access to inner structure.
----- Point #13 - NTSB admitted they found sulfur residue they cannot explain. However, this fits well with the explosive use theory.
----- Point #14 - The pancake theory had 100 to 500 times less than the required energy to pulverize concrete. In other words, the actual energy available from the crash and fires is 100 to 500 times too low to convert the concrete to dust. Absolute proof here.
----- Point #15 - Cheney & Bush stonewalled the investigation. At every turn until it was politically impossible to stop. Why did they wait until we were at war for 16 months to garner justification for said invasion?
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3804970279512923290&q=911+june+2006
Dr Judy Wood, PhD. - Summarized bby 240, just for you
----- She starts with her background. Civil engineering. Mechanical engineering using composite materials. Worked at NASA. Got the PhD in Theroerical & Practical Engineering Applications from Virginia tech. Did her dissertation on thermal stresses.
----- On 911, she was bothered by how the towers came down. Building was unraveling. Didn't make sense to her. Mentioned the similarity of the towers' structure to trees' - they don't turn into sawdust when they fall - they break. The planes hitting the towers were like a bullet shot into a tree.
----- Point #1 - There isn't enough potential energy from the falling material to pulverize concrete. This makes perfect sense. No matter how hot, or how heavy the materials were, they did not possess the energy to pulverize concrete. Also, not enought energy to buckle columns. And CERTAINLY not enough energy to do both. This from an expert in the field.
----- Point #2 - How did it collapse so uniformly when the fire was distributed so unevenly?
----- Point #3 - Pancake theory - assuming no resistance - It still would have consisted of a series of freefalls, as each floor destroys the one below it. Given no time for pulverization or buckling of columns, it STILL would have taken 31 seconds.
----- Point #4 - Floors were blown out many floors BELOW the debris cloud - ensuring no friction. The outward explosion - steel beams being blasted upwards and outwards - was a smokescreen.Without the smoke, we could have seen a consistent pattern of horizontal mushroom clouds, all the way down. Plus, the steel that was ejected was solid, not melted as it should have been under their theory.
-----Point #5 - In order to get the building down in ten seconds, here is what had to have happened: The 100th floor has to start moving BEFORE the 110th floor hit it. This way, it does not impede its motion at all, and it able to adhieve the near freefall speed that it achieved
(start to finish in 9.2 seconds). The buildings were blown up one floor at a time from the top down - there was NO air resistance. The building was actually destroyed in the air, floor by floor, sequentially.
----- Point #6 - The NTSB has not fulfilled its obligations according to the law. Frank Gayle of the NTSB was not able to answer her questions on the physics of that day, but pushed the report through anyway. He provided unreasonable responses to what happened to the fireproofing. He claimed that all of the asbestos fireproof coating- asymmetrical fires and damage- failed at once. This is the only way the collapse would be symmetrically. "Gravity is symmterical" was his response. however the matter meeting the gravity is ONLY symmetrical when all matter above it is equal. Fireproofing on the central columns dispels this theory. Listen to 27:00 of clip for more detail. when asked for scientific analysis, the NTBS declined. He ignored both facts and analysis and passed the buck.-
---- Point #7 - ARUB (world building conglomerate) was the group which put out the pancake theory - There was a team of people pre-stationed in NY, completely prepared for interviews that morning. They had info and materials ready for the media right after it happened. Comparisons were made to the JFK story - how the media had the pre-planned story with impossible levels of details right after shooting. Just like 911.
----- Point #8 - One professor at New Mexico Tech received an $85 million grant to change his research. He went from anti-belief to pro-belief in one week.
----- Point #9 - No pancake. Would have looked more like an avalanche. Pancake theory would not create the massive dust cloud. How tall would the pile of rubble had been? 10 to 30 stories high- and wide- being the 110 floors, piled up and falling out in the avalance manner. Observers were stunned that 110 floors of building were changed to fine dust. It just makes no sense to this PhD.
----- Point #10 - Kinetic energy is addressed. There wasn't enough momentum to develop the kinetic energy to EITHER collapse the columns, or pulverize the concrete. Not one. And not both.
----- Point #11 - Why is the structural engineering community so quiet on the subject? The physics of the collapse is so simple to this group.
----- Point #12 - Teams of engineers had free access to the building to do "recabling" in the 2 weeks before the attacks. Surprise security inspections in which teams of men entered the building and had free access to inner structure.
----- Point #13 - NTSB admitted they found sulfur residue they cannot explain. However, this fits well with the explosive use theory.
----- Point #14 - The pancake theory had 100 to 500 times less than the required energy to pulverize concrete. In other words, the actual energy available from the crash and fires is 100 to 500 times too low to convert the concrete to dust. Absolute proof here.
----- Point #15 - Cheney & Bush stonewalled the investigation. At every turn until it was politically impossible to stop. Why did they wait until we were at war for 16 months to garner justification for said invasion?
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36% of Americans now believe 911 was an inside job, committed by our own govt. I think that will play into the election a lot. Some Dems were obviously in on it, but they'll be the first to throw the bushadmin under the bus for it.
BTW - O'Reilly Factor on FOX in 10 minutes has a professor teaching 911 alternative theories in his classroom.
Another 240 conspirecy...god you are dumb.Go join those 36% of IQ lacking people.
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3804970279512923290&q=911+june+2006
Dr Judy Wood, PhD. - Summarized bby 240, just for you
----- She starts with her background. Civil engineering. Mechanical engineering using composite materials. Worked at NASA. Got the PhD in Theroerical & Practical Engineering Applications from Virginia tech. Did her dissertation on thermal stresses.
----- On 911, she was bothered by how the towers came down. Building was unraveling. Didn't make sense to her. Mentioned the similarity of the towers' structure to trees' - they don't turn into sawdust when they fall - they break. The planes hitting the towers were like a bullet shot into a tree.
----- Point #1 - There isn't enough potential energy from the falling material to pulverize concrete. This makes perfect sense. No matter how hot, or how heavy the materials were, they did not possess the energy to pulverize concrete. Also, not enought energy to buckle columns. And CERTAINLY not enough energy to do both. This from an expert in the field.
----- Point #2 - How did it collapse so uniformly when the fire was distributed so unevenly?
----- Point #3 - Pancake theory - assuming no resistance - It still would have consisted of a series of freefalls, as each floor destroys the one below it. Given no time for pulverization or buckling of columns, it STILL would have taken 31 seconds.
----- Point #4 - Floors were blown out many floors BELOW the debris cloud - ensuring no friction. The outward explosion - steel beams being blasted upwards and outwards - was a smokescreen.Without the smoke, we could have seen a consistent pattern of horizontal mushroom clouds, all the way down. Plus, the steel that was ejected was solid, not melted as it should have been under their theory.
-----Point #5 - In order to get the building down in ten seconds, here is what had to have happened: The 100th floor has to start moving BEFORE the 110th floor hit it. This way, it does not impede its motion at all, and it able to adhieve the near freefall speed that it achieved
(start to finish in 9.2 seconds). The buildings were blown up one floor at a time from the top down - there was NO air resistance. The building was actually destroyed in the air, floor by floor, sequentially.
----- Point #6 - The NTSB has not fulfilled its obligations according to the law. Frank Gayle of the NTSB was not able to answer her questions on the physics of that day, but pushed the report through anyway. He provided unreasonable responses to what happened to the fireproofing. He claimed that all of the asbestos fireproof coating- asymmetrical fires and damage- failed at once. This is the only way the collapse would be symmetrically. "Gravity is symmterical" was his response. however the matter meeting the gravity is ONLY symmetrical when all matter above it is equal. Fireproofing on the central columns dispels this theory. Listen to 27:00 of clip for more detail. when asked for scientific analysis, the NTBS declined. He ignored both facts and analysis and passed the buck.-
---- Point #7 - ARUB (world building conglomerate) was the group which put out the pancake theory - There was a team of people pre-stationed in NY, completely prepared for interviews that morning. They had info and materials ready for the media right after it happened. Comparisons were made to the JFK story - how the media had the pre-planned story with impossible levels of details right after shooting. Just like 911.
----- Point #8 - One professor at New Mexico Tech received an $85 million grant to change his research. He went from anti-belief to pro-belief in one week.
----- Point #9 - No pancake. Would have looked more like an avalanche. Pancake theory would not create the massive dust cloud. How tall would the pile of rubble had been? 10 to 30 stories high- and wide- being the 110 floors, piled up and falling out in the avalance manner. Observers were stunned that 110 floors of building were changed to fine dust. It just makes no sense to this PhD.
----- Point #10 - Kinetic energy is addressed. There wasn't enough momentum to develop the kinetic energy to EITHER collapse the columns, or pulverize the concrete. Not one. And not both.
----- Point #11 - Why is the structural engineering community so quiet on the subject? The physics of the collapse is so simple to this group.
----- Point #12 - Teams of engineers had free access to the building to do "recabling" in the 2 weeks before the attacks. Surprise security inspections in which teams of men entered the building and had free access to inner structure.
----- Point #13 - NTSB admitted they found sulfur residue they cannot explain. However, this fits well with the explosive use theory.
----- Point #14 - The pancake theory had 100 to 500 times less than the required energy to pulverize concrete. In other words, the actual energy available from the crash and fires is 100 to 500 times too low to convert the concrete to dust. Absolute proof here.
----- Point #15 - Cheney & Bush stonewalled the investigation. At every turn until it was politically impossible to stop. Why did they wait until we were at war for 16 months to garner justification for said invasion?
You forgot this one...
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y54/okyleyva/space-alien-backs-bush-for-presiden.jpg)
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IFBBwannaB and Polartec, have you studied the tapes of the tower collapses?
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I'm with you 240. NEVER thought they came down on their own. What a coincidence that the they are the only two steel skyscrapers ion the world to come down because of fire. ::) Most of the jet fuel went out the window in the second building. They both fell too perfectly and the saddest part of all is the most of the people believe their shit story. Why and how it was done is not important to me, but it always comes down to two things, money and power.
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I'm with you 240. NEVER thought they came down on their own. What a coincidence that the they are the only two steel skyscrapers ion the world to come down because of fire. ::) Most of the jet fuel went out the window in the second building. They both fell too perfectly and the saddest part of all is the most of the people believe their shit story. Why and how it was done is not important to me, but it always comes down to two things, money and power.
Don't forget the biggest smoking gun of them all... WTC7. Fell identically and was never hit.
(http://www.waronfreedom.org/pix/wtc7-demolition.gif)
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Don't forget the biggest smoking gun of them all... WTC7. Fell identically and was never hit.
(http://www.waronfreedom.org/pix/wtc7-demolition.gif)
It was "pulled" as the owner stated on TV. Name was Silverstein??
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Yep. I predict they'll make him the fallguy in all of this right before he gets a pardon as Bush leave office , Christmas Eve 2008.
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The 9/11 conspiracy mongers are living in a pure fantasy world, where the Big Bad Government can secretly orchestrate vast conspiracies without anyone finding out. The reality is that every branch of the federal government is subject to tremendous scrutiny by the press and the media. Look at Watergate, the NSA wiretap scandal, and the Valerie Plame affair. Nixon couldn't burglarize a fucking hotel room without the press finding out about it. The New York Times found out about Bush's secret wiretapping program, and that pales in comparison to a possible 9/11 conspiracy. There is simply no way the gang of retards known as "the Bush Administration" could pull off something so complex and so elaborate without leaving a shred of evidence behind. It is a physical impossibility. Someone would've leaked their plans long before they had time to carry them out. This is an indisputable fact.
There is another fundamental flaw with the 9/11 conspiracy theories. They assume that everyone in the US government is an evil traitor who would be willing to go along with a plan resulting in the deaths of thousands of Americans. This is the most revealing assumption of all. It shows that the 9/11 conspiracy theorists have a black and white view of human nature. According to this view, the US government is run by a bunch of "evil" oligarchs hellbent on spreading war and destruction. How else could thousands of government officials carry out this conspiracy so ruthlessly and efficiently?
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It was just a small group that did it, and many could have been private military contractors from overseas.
Only a small part of our govt would have had to know about it. You'll notice that most of the people who did the 911 investigation were involved with the PNAC 2000 document discussing the need for a catalyzing world event - a new Pearl Harbor- to motivate US population and clear permission with world to launch new world order into middle east/asia. Also, these 911 investigators now run the CIA.
Their justification? It had to be done to revive our sagging economy in late 2001. It had to be done to allow the US to get a foothold overseas and secure natural resources.
Will there be justice? No. Bush & Cheney never testified under oath and have clean hands. They can pardon anyone ever charged.
In case you don't own a TV, it's everywhere now. General boards on every topic out there, are buzzing about 911. FOX news has a piece on 4 nights a week, mocking it. 36% of population believes it happened. people are running for office on a Re-Open 911 platform.
It's real.
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Check this site out Rob....http://www.freepressinternational.com/911.html
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Thousands have gag orders - All NY Firefighters and Police included.
‘BOMBS INSIDE WTC’
FIRE OFFICER SAYS FIREMEN, COPS KNOW TRUTH
By Victor Thorn
NEW YORK CITY, N.Y.—On the morning of Sept. 11, 2005, New York City auxiliary fire lieutenant Paul Isaac Jr. asserted, yet again, that 9-11 was an inside job. “I know 9-11 was an inside job. The police know it’s an inside job; and the firemen know it too,” said Isaac.
The ramifications of this statement are immense: One of New York’s own firefighters says publicly that 9-11 couldn’t have been the work of Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda, but instead was planned, coordinated and executed by elements within our own government.
He also added, after pointing to throngs of police officers standing around us, that, “We all have to be very careful about how we handle it.”
Isaac reiterated what a 9-11 survivor told this journalist during our protest at Ground Zero on Sept. 11, 2005—that emergency radios were buzzing with information about bombs being detonated inside the World Trade Center towers.
Also, Isaac directly addressed a gag order that has been placed on firemen and police officers in New York.
“It’s amazing how many people are afraid to talk for fear of retaliation or losing their jobs,” said Isaac, regarding the FBI gag order placed on law enforcement and fire department officials, preventing them from openly talking about any inside knowledge of 9-11. There is more information related to Isaac circulating in on-line and print reports, so here again we are hearing first-hand evidence from individuals who were on the scene, such as live witness William Rodriguez, saying that the World Trade Center towers were brought down not by the airliner’s impact or the resulting jet fuel fires, but instead by a deliberately executed controlled demolition.
Tragically, due to heavy-handed pressure from officials at the city, state and federal levels, we are still not hearing the entire story.
Researcher Vincent Sammartino, who was also at the WTC “open grave site” on the afternoon of Sept. 11, 2005, wrote the following on the on-line news web site APFN: “I just got back from Ground Zero. People know the truth. Half of the police and firemen were coming up to us and telling us that they know that 9-11 was an inside job. They were told not to talk about it. But they were supporting what we were doing. I had tears in my eyes.”
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jezzus christ 240 let it go, the truth will come out, i was there in lower manhattan that day...it sucked
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a dude posted tapes of people calling from the tour when they died a while ago here on getbig
that was.... well....... horrible
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jezzus christ 240 let it go, the truth will come out, i was there in lower manhattan that day...it sucked
If they brought down a tower and killed 3000 every year... would you want to wait until it comes out on its own?
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If they brought down a tower and killed 3000 every year... would you want to wait until it comes out on its own?
I watch most of the symposium on the World Trade Center Conspiracy theories that appeared on CSPAN.. I too think that there is too many coinincidences going around. I want to get to the bottom of the whole bull shit too but not to meltdown or anyhting ... that shit was seriously scary as hell and i knew of people (thank God no one close) who perished. It really felt that we were at war, I wasnt home watching it on tv i was running , walking, waiting to get out of Manhattan for like 8 hrs + ... no cell phone, people thinking you might be hurt... Unfortuatnately i am also a pessemist in that who ever put the whole thing is probably going to get away with it. Saddam is a scapegoat, Osama is alive and we dont even know who killed JFK yet.
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this thread need s to die or get back on topic even if it makeing fun of me i asick of this worls trade shit i was close enogh and freake dout enough i don;t wanan think abou itanymore
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JFK was killed by a magic bullet a week after promising to dismantle the CIA. Anyone who investigated it chose suicide. That one is a dead horse.
But 911 is fresh in ppl's minds still, and those who may have been involved are still in power. And people are not scared. The internet makes it too big. 110 million Americans believe it was an inside job. people march every weekend.
I know no one will ever see trial, and that's fine. But once the people know, the govt won't be able to pull this shit again. make 911 the last terror attack. I bet this intense scrutiny had a big influence on the LACK of an iranian attack. You know the govt would really love a reason to get into Iran. But any attack at this point would raise so many flags that people wouldn't support it like they did afghanistan.
I make a little noise... because if everyone did, it would never happen again.
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They should rebuild the towers and then take Bush and Cheney on the top floor and throw them out of a window.
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JFK was killed by a magic bullet a week after promising to dismantle the CIA. Anyone who investigated it chose suicide. That one is a dead horse.
But 911 is fresh in ppl's minds still, and those who may have been involved are still in power. And people are not scared. The internet makes it too big. 110 million Americans believe it was an inside job. people march every weekend.
I know no one will ever see trial, and that's fine. But once the people know, the govt won't be able to pull this shit again. make 911 the last terror attack. I bet this intense scrutiny had a big influence on the LACK of an iranian attack. You know the govt would really love a reason to get into Iran. But any attack at this point would raise so many flags that people wouldn't support it like they did afghanistan.
I make a little noise... because if everyone did, it would never happen again.
and you voted for bush
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They should rebuild the towers and then take Bush and Cheney on the top floor and throw them out of a window.
you might wanna delete that you can go to jail for shi tlike that
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you might wanna delete that you can go to jail for shi tlike that
I wrote 'they' not 'I'.
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I honestly don't know what that whole "no time for love doctor jones" meant.
indiana jones and the temple of doom
"short round" says it as they are driving through the city being shot at...
i think dzull means he doesnt have time to spell check
hope this helps
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i would say my ring caus ei dint; know abou tth eother thing but i don;t regret it caus ethat stupid ass thing go tme more head from girls then.............. shit i can;t even think of analogy it's weird how something like that works i never would have guessed it myself
but i know it does look gay in retrospect
Can someone get Ronnie or Lee to translate this??
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it was, esp caus eit doesn;t make sense
my posts idon;t punctuate or spell check no time for love doctor jones i fyou don;t like it don;t read it and i do it to piss people off it seems to work well
Thats because when you clicked on the spell check it freaking blew up trying to figure it out :-\!!
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No. I may vote libertarian. I may not vote. I'm a diehard repub who is suddenly very much without a party.
Oh c'mon Rob...you don't really buy that shit do you? Damn near every piece of evidence you posted has liberal bias written all over it. I'm not saying you're becoming liberal and I like you too much to wish that on you, but your doing exactly what they want you to do and thats to fall for it!!
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Oh c'mon Rob...you don't really buy that shit do you? Damn near every piece of evidence you posted has liberal bias written all over it. I'm not saying you're becoming liberal and I like you too much to wish that on you, but your doing exactly what they want you to do and thats to fall for it!!
I hate lazy democrats. I hate psychotic neocons. I hate junkies and criminals.
I think I remain a conservative guy. I campaigned for Bush and got friends to change their votes from Gore then Kerry. But I have watched film after film, read a few books on it, and his actions, and the scientific analysis of the events on 911, do point to demolitions.
I don't know what happened at the pentagon. It was weird how 2 6-ton engines disappeared. but I KNOW the towers did not have the potential energy, from the fuel or the inertia of falling floors, to turn 110 floors of concrete and steel into 30 feet of powder. And the pool of moltel metal below the towers, still burning for 6 weeks, no. And the WTC7 that fell for no reason and was never addressed, no.
It scares the hell out of me, Joe. I've followed the law and been a diehard repub my whole life. but I know that 911 was staged. And all I can do now is wait for those involved to feel not scared, or guilty, and come fwd.
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The 9/11 conspiracy mongers are living in a pure fantasy world, where the Big Bad Government can secretly orchestrate vast conspiracies without anyone finding out. The reality is that every branch of the federal government is subject to tremendous scrutiny by the press and the media. Look at Watergate, the NSA wiretap scandal, and the Valerie Plame affair. Nixon couldn't burglarize a fucking hotel room without the press finding out about it. The New York Times found out about Bush's secret wiretapping program, and that pales in comparison to a possible 9/11 conspiracy. There is simply no way the gang of retards known as "the Bush Administration" could pull off something so complex and so elaborate without leaving a shred of evidence behind. It is a physical impossibility. Someone would've leaked their plans long before they had time to carry them out. This is an indisputable fact.
What about Pearl Harbor. The President and Sec of Def knew we were going to be attacked but did not alert the Admiral in charge of the base. They needed a reason to get in the war and garner American citizens support for it. Then the government let the Admiral take the fall for it, he took a reduction in rank, was retired and made to look like an idiot. I'll try to find the details, a retired general who was teaching a class I was in gave us handouts with written dialogue and a time line of the events leading up to the bombing at Pearl Harbor. They were released to the public I think around 2000 but don't quote me, I'll have to find my info. But my point is that it is possible and we may find out 30 yrs from now that there was a conspiracy.
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Govt learned their lesson with pearl harbor. they put blame on two men (kimmel and short) and these two men were very happy to report that roosevelt knew all along.
with 911, NO ONE was blamed. No one. 90 minutes of everyone asleep at NORAD - and the inability to turn off a bunch of wargames started that AM - was incompetent at best and treasonous at worst. Everyone who did look bad was given a promotion afterwards.
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In late july 06 they released papers where Lyndon B Johnson said "I want that boat on the bottom of the g*dd*mn sea" about a US ship being attacked by the Israelis to get us into war with Egypt. Our planes stood down while this boat was bombed. Also gulf of tonkien was revealed with de-classified docs to be a farce.
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Govt learned their lesson with pearl harbor. they put blame on two men (kimmel and short) and these two men were very happy to report that roosevelt knew all along.
Admiral Kimmel Thanks it was bugging me that I couldn't remember his name.
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Wow 240 is reaching new levels of stupidity.
So you claim Bush sent Osama a letter telling him to send some boys in and get the "glory" of taking down the towers.And as a prize Bush will come pulverize his country.
^^^pure logic there! ::)
PLEASE get back to what you are good at,since you obviously never tried to write an equation to check the potential energies or do some real thinking besides reading some retards books.Peolpe will allways say shit,espcialy when they can make you pay them to read it.
You are a much better internet troll then an engineer/logistics planer.
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Fucks sake 240... every fucking section of getbig is being ruined by your 911 conspiracy theory drool. >:(
You're throwing this 36% firgure around as if it somehow makes everything you say true... Fact: 36%+ of people are idiots.
You're clearly a conspiracy junkie, you want to believe, and need people to believe with you to feel good about yourself. So I suggest you go and join a 911 conspiracy forum... AND STOP FUCKING OVER-TAKING THREADS WITH THIS DRIVEL!
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it does look gay in retrospect
....agreed!
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240,
Just stop man, I live in NYC I go to school in downtown NYC I saw the towers fall, my father saw the second plane hit from mere blocks away I know 4 people who lost their lives that day. Your "proof" is dubious at best from people who sound unreliable. A bullet hitting a tree? try a fucking rocket dude
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" 110 million Americans believe it was an inside job. people march every weekend. "
" The national survey of 1,010 adults"
Where are you getting 110 million? Just cause they poll 1010 adults doesnt make it correct representation of all Americans. Those 1010 adults could be from a college campus....inner city minorities, democrats, study groups..etc
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No. I may vote libertarian. I may not vote. I'm a diehard repub who is suddenly very much without a party.
Whats your position on gay marriage? since your a Republican I suppose you are against it. Or are you like Arnold, liberal on social issues?
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indiana jones and the temple of doom
"short round" says it as they are driving through the city being shot at...
i think dzull means he doesnt have time to spell check
hope this helps
youthe man ;D
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....agreed!
and youstill blew me
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dont ya'll love getbig?.....lol. any threads, anything,.....thread like this one.... ;D ;D.
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Ok,, what is funny now is; the more you guys complain, the worse i am gonna type.... get it? ;D
and just for the record i had a schoalarship to college.......... academic lol ;D
what university did you go to and what is your degree in...you talk about school a lot and your education
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Whats your position on gay marriage? since your a Republican I suppose you are against it. Or are you like Arnold, liberal on social issues?
I believe gay marriage is a token issue which is used by the media and political parties to really distract people from the major issues we're facing as a nation.
How many of us are seriously going to be affected if two men living together have a piece of paper? But how many of us are affected by tying the US economy to a 5-year war? (this coming from a formerly pro-war guy!)
I remember when the media spent weeks, interviewing priests and politicians, and it was all just a diversionary tactic. People were ignoring the 2 big issues of our lifetime.
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what university did you go to and what is your degree in...you talk about school a lot and your education
he went to the 8th oldest institution in the Western Hemisphere, Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey.
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240,
Just stop man, I live in NYC I go to school in downtown NYC I saw the towers fall, my father saw the second plane hit from mere blocks away I know 4 people who lost their lives that day. Your "proof" is dubious at best from people who sound unreliable. A bullet hitting a tree? try a fucking rocket dude
I had people I know die in the towers that day too.Thats why I hate this conspiracy shit.
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240,
Just stop man, I live in NYC I go to school in downtown NYC I saw the towers fall, my father saw the second plane hit from mere blocks away I know 4 people who lost their lives that day. Your "proof" is dubious at best from people who sound unreliable. A bullet hitting a tree? try a fucking rocket dude
One of the engineers who designed the trade centers was interviewed about a year BEFORE 9-11 about what would happen if a large commercial plane hit the trade center. At the time I believe he said a 737 was the biggest plane. (when they were built). His analogy was a plane hitting the trade center was like poking a hole in your screen door with a pencil. He said they where designed to take multiple hits with minimal damage.
As far as you knowing people who died, I know someone who was next door and knew dozens of people who died. This does not give you any more right to criticize anyone with an opinion. So stop with the I am a victim attitude.
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One of the engineers who designed the trade centers was interviewed about a year BEFORE 9-11 about what would happen if a large commercial plane hit the trade center. At the time I believe he said a 737 was the biggest plane. (when they were built). His analogy was a plane hitting the trade center was like poking a hole in your screen door with a pencil. He said they where designed to take multiple hits with minimal damage.
Of course if he designed it, he's going to say that.
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Of course if he designed it, he's going to say that.
Not sure what you mean, but remember this was before so it had nothing to do with 9-11.
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Not sure what you mean, but remember this was before so it had nothing to do with 9-11.
Sorry, what I mean is that there is no way he would admit it, even if he knew it had structural problems, etc... because he, along with the other engineers, would be liable.
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Sorry, what I mean is that there is no way he would admit it, even if he knew it had structural problems, etc... because he, along with the other engineers, would be liable.
Yeah, but there was nothing to admit then as this was BEFORE 9-11. It was just an interview about how the buildings were built.
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Yeah, but there was nothing to admit then as this was BEFORE 9-11. It was just an interview about how the buildings were built.
But don't you think he is obviously going to say that the structures could withstand anything, etc...? I can't imagine he would say "if struck, they could possible fall."
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----- On 911, she was bothered by how the towers came down. Building was unraveling. Didn't make sense to her. Mentioned the similarity of the towers' structure to trees' - they don't turn into sawdust when they fall - they break. The planes hitting the towers were like a bullet shot into a tree.
(bullets dont contain hundreds or thousands of gallons of jet fuel. trees are solid, not mostly hollow like a building which allows air and fuel to mix creating intense heat. once a single floor is stressed enough all the weight of the floors above collapse on it and create the effect we witnessed that day. bullet in tree=stupidest analogy ive ever heard)
----- Point #1 - There isn't enough potential energy from the falling material to pulverize concrete. This makes perfect sense. No matter how hot, or how heavy the materials were, they did not possess the energy to pulverize concrete. Also, not enought energy to buckle columns. And CERTAINLY not enough energy to do both. This from an expert in the field.
(once the fire starts burning and the steel melts, assuming the plane took out a decent number of concrete columns on impact, its perfectly believable that was enough stress to start the ball rolling)
----- Point #2 - How did it collapse so uniformly when the fire was distributed so unevenly?
(wheres the proof of the uneven fire? lots of flammable material in an office building, im sure at least an entire floor was uniformly burning within seconds)
----- Point #3 - Pancake theory - assuming no resistance - It still would have consisted of a series of freefalls, as each floor destroys the one below it. Given no time for pulverization or buckling of columns, it STILL would have taken 31 seconds.
(as soon as the top part of the building starts to come down, the stress isnt just placed on the floor immediately below it....its place on every floor at once.....they all start to fracture and fall together.)
----- Point #4 - Floors were blown out many floors BELOW the debris cloud - ensuring no friction. The outward explosion - steel beams being blasted upwards and outwards - was a smokescreen.Without the smoke, we could have seen a consistent pattern of horizontal mushroom clouds, all the way down. Plus, the steel that was ejected was solid, not melted as it should have been under their theory.
(if the steel wasnt near a fire obviously it wont be melted but will break from the pressure above)
-----Point #5 - In order to get the building down in ten seconds, here is what had to have happened: The 100th floor has to start moving BEFORE the 110th floor hit it. This way, it does not impede its motion at all, and it able to adhieve the near freefall speed that it achieved
(start to finish in 9.2 seconds). The buildings were blown up one floor at a time from the top down - there was NO air resistance. The building was actually destroyed in the air, floor by floor, sequentially.
(already discussed, pressure is more uniform than simply having one floor explode at a time)
----- Point #6 - The NTSB has not fulfilled its obligations according to the law. Frank Gayle of the NTSB was not able to answer her questions on the physics of that day, but pushed the report through anyway. He provided unreasonable responses to what happened to the fireproofing. He claimed that all of the asbestos fireproof coating- asymmetrical fires and damage- failed at once. This is the only way the collapse would be symmetrically. "Gravity is symmterical" was his response. however the matter meeting the gravity is ONLY symmetrical when all matter above it is equal. Fireproofing on the central columns dispels this theory. Listen to 27:00 of clip for more detail. when asked for scientific analysis, the NTBS declined. He ignored both facts and analysis and passed the buck.-
(yes he wasnt inside the building conducting experiments when it happened, and of course you cant recreate all the idiosyncrices of the event)
---- Point #7 - ARUB (world building conglomerate) was the group which put out the pancake theory - There was a team of people pre-stationed in NY, completely prepared for interviews that morning. They had info and materials ready for the media right after it happened. Comparisons were made to the JFK story - how the media had the pre-planned story with impossible levels of details right after shooting. Just like 911.
(wow, NYC has engineers that are available for interviews? what a surprise, theres only millions of people living there.....and being structural engineers, might know a thing or two about the tallest buildings in america, a sort of "engineering miracle" if you will? they also interviewed people with blood dripping down their face and covered in dust, great acting on those people's part)
----- Point #8 - One professor at New Mexico Tech received an $85 million grant to change his research. He went from anti-belief to pro-belief in one week.
(awesome detail on this fact with epic unrelated circumstantial evidence)
----- Point #9 - No pancake. Would have looked more like an avalanche. Pancake theory would not create the massive dust cloud. How tall would the pile of rubble had been? 10 to 30 stories high- and wide- being the 110 floors, piled up and falling out in the avalance manner. Observers were stunned that 110 floors of building were changed to fine dust. It just makes no sense to this PhD.
(building are mostly hollow. dust is concrete that used to be intact.....it is therefore gone and no longer taking up space. theres also underground parking, which accepted some of the material from above)
----- Point #10 - Kinetic energy is addressed. There wasn't enough momentum to develop the kinetic energy to EITHER collapse the columns, or pulverize the concrete. Not one. And not both.
(yes there was, thats why it happened)
----- Point #11 - Why is the structural engineering community so quiet on the subject? The physics of the collapse is so simple to this group.
(because every structural engineer was obviously paid off handsomely by the government and is now sipping daquiris in aruba. they were replaced here by "replicants" who have not been discovered)
----- Point #12 - Teams of engineers had free access to the building to do "recabling" in the 2 weeks before the attacks. Surprise security inspections in which teams of men entered the building and had free access to inner structure.
(yes and? building undergo maintenance)
----- Point #13 - NTSB admitted they found sulfur residue they cannot explain. However, this fits well with the explosive use theory.
(when 110 floors collapse together with an airplane, furniture, and whatever else those corp execs had, not to mention 3000 people, a sulfur residue could have come from anywhere)
----- Point #14 - The pancake theory had 100 to 500 times less than the required energy to pulverize concrete. In other words, the actual energy available from the crash and fires is 100 to 500 times too low to convert the concrete to dust. Absolute proof here.
(all we see is someone trying to disprove the eyewitness account of millions as well as video evidence, etc, with no alternate proof of their own)
----- Point #15 - Cheney & Bush stonewalled the investigation. At every turn until it was politically impossible to stop. Why did they wait until we were at war for 16 months to garner justification for said invasion?
war? afghanistan or iraq? justification for which invasion?
horrible points, completely in left field with this one. 240 it seems you can't break out of that backwater mentality despite a lot of attempts lately that had me convinced otherwise.
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Here is a quick whipout of the numbers.Where did the 31sec no resistance figure came from?
Who are those experts?
If it was a free fall the top floor would have hit the groun at 180mph,and at a weigh of dozens of tons it would have the same energy as a bomb.
Im attaching the equations.I might got something wrong been a while since I messed with kinemathics :D
(not to mention total structural failure that can speed up the collapsing).
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Here is a quick whipout of the numbers.Where did the 31sec no resistance figure came from?
Who are those experts?
If it was a free fall the top floor would have hit the groun at 180mph,and at a weigh of dozens of tons it would have the same energy as a bomb.
Im attaching the equations.I might got something wrong been a while since I messed with kinemathics :D
(not to mention total structural failure that can speed up the collapsing).
i dont really know what the hell that ^ is but if you think the conspiracy theory is bs then i'm with you on that one
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If it was a free fall the top floor would have hit the groun at 180mph,and at a weigh of dozens of tons it would have the same energy as a bomb.
Not true since the debris was mostly small pieces not to mention that the concrete was pulverized before it even hit the ground. So no matter how fast it fell it would have not had much energy. Look at it this way, if you dropped a brick from a 100 story building or 100 bricks it still would be the same since you can not combine all their force since they are not attached.
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horrible points, completely in left field with this one. 240 it seems you can't break out of that backwater mentality despite a lot of attempts lately that had me convinced otherwise.
Why they horrible points?
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Not true since the debris was mostly small pieces not to mention that the concrete was pulverized before it even hit the ground. So no matter how fast it fell it would have not had much energy. Look at it this way, if you dropped a brick from a 100 story building or 100 bricks it still would be the same since you can not combine all their force since they are not attached.
You have anwsered your own question,would the brink completly break up ? Yep.
I want to understand,lets assume this was a consipercy.Then what made the it pulverize? Bombs? Iron weights?
Bomb will just explode it,no more wieght is needed that was a huge ass building.I fail to see your point.
BTW let me give you some food for thought,at the first golf war Iraq launced some Scud misslies with concrete heads in them.The energy caused a small earthquake that was detected quite far from the point of impact.
Sure a Scud is faster then a jet but it weigh WAYYYYY less,Im sure the plane had more energy.
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i dont really know what the hell that ^ is but if you think the conspiracy theory is bs then i'm with you on that one
Those are the equations of the most simplified movments there are.240 said that "experts" claimed that without resitance it will take the building 31sec to drop.Sir Newton says 8....I will take his word for it :D
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You have anwsered your own question,would the brink completly break up ? Yep.
I want to understand,lets assume this was a consipercy.Then what made the it pulverize? Bombs? Iron weights?
Bomb will just explode it,no more wieght is needed that was a huge ass building.I fail to see your point.
BTW let me give you some food for thought,at the first golf war Iraq launced some Scud misslies with concrete heads in them.The energy caused a small earthquake that was detected quite far from the point of impact.
Sure a Scud is faster then a jet but it weigh WAYYYYY less,Im sure the plane had more energy.
I'm not much afor conspiracies. I do believe after reading all that I have that those building had help coming down. I will not pretend to guess as to why. If I remember correctly those buildings came down just slightly slower than freefall. I also do not understand the 31 sec. statement.
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I'm not much afor conspiracies. I do believe after reading all that I have that those building had help coming down. I will not pretend to guess as to why. If I remember correctly those buildings came down just slightly slower than freefall. I also do not understand the 31 sec. statement.
Freefall will take 8sec unless I made a mistake in the calculations.
I really fail to logic behind all those wierd point,ok..lets assume it was a goverment plan.Then what that have to do with a 6 week fire? And how does molten metal droping of a window makes it a black operation? They had a blacksmit up there smacking the metal pillars? WTF where is the logical thinking?
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Freefall will take 8sec unless I made a mistake in the calculations.
I really fail to logic behind all those wierd point,ok..lets assume it was a goverment plan.Then what that have to do with a 6 week fire? And how does molten metal droping of a window makes it a black operation? They had a blacksmit up there smacking the metal pillars? WTF where is the logical thinking?
Nobody could actually believe that it would take 31 seconds WHEN THERE'S NO RESISTANCE. :-\
You don't think you misinterpreted 240?
YIP
Zack
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Nobody could actually believe that it would take 31 seconds WHEN THERE'S NO RESISTANCE. :-\
You don't think you misinterpreted 240?
YIP
Zack
Actualy resistance wont slow it down by much.Since it drops with enough energy to break the floor below.
If it wouldnt have the energy to drop the floor below it then it would stop,and after a something will fail it will fall down another floor.
I dont want to get into it,but basicly nature is binaric.You either break it or not.If you dont you will need to wait for additional energy to make you breakthrough.
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i'm sure the goverment also planned to ram another plane into one of their most expensive and fundamental buildings, the pentagon. sure, why not disrupt our primary line of defense, makes a ton of sense.
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i'm sure the goverment also planned to ram another plane into one of their most expensive and fundamental buildings, the pentagon. sure, why not disrupt our primary line of defense, makes a ton of sense.
OH please...you are talking sense now! You know that have no place in the mind of 240 ;D
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i'm sure the goverment also planned to ram another plane into one of their most expensive and fundamental buildings, the pentagon. sure, why not disrupt our primary line of defense, makes a ton of sense.
And don't forget, the plane that went down in PA was supposedly headed for the White House. But I'm sure that was also just part of the master plan.
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Just thought I would share a PM that I got from UGMT. Thanks for the invite, but I really don't need to hear anything from you. You see, my cousin is a NJ policeman and I got to hear first hand about the bodies or more like the body parts that he got to remove from the scene. I'm sure he'll have nightmare's about this for the rest of his life. He knew plenty of people who died there. I know that hearing about it was enouigh for me. I have no problem with anyone commenting on 9-11 like you seem to have. What I do have a problem with is people like you coming on here and acting like you have a "right" to comment and chosing who else does and doesn't. Oh, yeah I did know someone who worked in the WTC. She happened to be running late for work that day because she was late bringing her kids to daycare. You see, a lot of people are in one way or another victims or knew someone who was. So next time think about what you are saying before you open your piehole.
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f**k yourself asshole. This isn't fucking bodybuilding this is real life. Your in the tri state area gimme a call next time your in NYC me and a couple other kids- children of fire fighters and police officers can explain to you how we are victims and we do have more fucking right to talk about it because we were there, had to live through it and endure the losses that came with. Do the jews who were there have less right to talk about the holocaust? Either way your just a low life plainly put. like i said your in the city and you want a real explanation of what is was like being there pm me back ill gladly give you my number.
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i'm sure the goverment also planned to ram another plane into one of their most expensive and fundamental buildings, the pentagon. sure, why not disrupt our primary line of defense, makes a ton of sense.
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Tell me this - To everyone that disputes the evidence of 911...
In your mind, is our govt capable of killing a large number of its own citizens to meet a political agenda? Answer that first.
If you clearly believe that our govt has never misled us using deaths of Americans, then you will never believe the 911 evidence. 1967 Egypt, Gulf of Tonkien, 1993 WTC with involvement of NY FBI head... read up on those. 911 wasn't a surprise to many, because this "false flag" attacks have happened before to meet political agendas.
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Tell me this - To everyone that disputes the evidence of 911...
In your mind, is our govt capable of killing a large number of its own citizens to meet a political agenda? Answer that first.
If you clearly believe that our govt has never misled us using deaths of Americans, then you will never believe the 911 evidence. 1967 Egypt, Gulf of Tonkien, 1993 WTC with involvement of NY FBI head... read up on those. 911 wasn't a surprise to many, because this "false flag" attacks have happened before to meet political agendas.
i dont dispute the WTC evidence.....aka the eyewitness account, the video, the physical destruction, the hijackers background and profile, and osamas admission.
you're the one disputing that
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On that osama admission tape - he is writing with the wrong hand and wearing gold, a muslim no-no. And look at pics of his face in that video - it's not him. And, why hasn't the FBI added the WTC attacks to his list of charges? In their own words, "We have no evidence he was involved".
The video was fake. Period. It justified the war. Now I agree that Osama belongs in the dirt for other stuff he did. But that wasn't him found on a tape in a jalalabad house raid right after we invaded. Look at that video. There are flaws. Above all, the obvious use of the wrong hand to write.
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Photos show people walking around in the hole in the North Tower "where 10,000 gallons of jet fuel were supposedly burning. The women (p. 27) seem to (sic) looking down to the ground" (the NIST "Response" pdf, p. 62, also shows a similar photo of the same blond woman with light-colored slacks looking over the edge of the 94th floor).
By the time the South Tower was hit, most of the North Tower’s flames had already vanished, burning for only 16 minutes.
The fire did not grow over time, probably because it quickly ran out of fuel and was suffocating rather than the sprinkler system dousing the fires.
FDNY fire fighters remain under a gag order (Rodriguezvs-1.Bush.pdf, p. 10) to not discuss the explosions they heard, felt and saw. FAA personnel are also under a 9/11 gag order.
Even the 9/11 Commission (Kean-Zelikow) Report acknowledges that "none of the [fire] chiefs present believed that a total collapse of either tower was possible" (Ch. 9, p. 302). It shocked everyone that day, amateur and professional alike, although some firefighters realized that so-called secondary explosive devices were a risk.
Um... why gag all the firefighters and FAA? If there's nothing to hide - WHY?
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Tell me this - To everyone that disputes the evidence of 911...
In your mind, is our govt capable of killing a large number of its own citizens to meet a political agenda? Answer that first.
If you clearly believe that our govt has never misled us using deaths of Americans, then you will never believe the 911 evidence. 1967 Egypt, Gulf of Tonkien, 1993 WTC with involvement of NY FBI head... read up on those. 911 wasn't a surprise to many, because this "false flag" attacks have happened before to meet political agendas.
I'm absolutely positive that no civilized government would ever organize a cold blooded execution of its own citizens.
Especially never one execution that large (3000+ deaths?).
I believe the government in the USA to be civilized.
YIP
Zack
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I'm absolutely positive that no civilized government would ever organize a cold blooded execution of its own citizens.
Especially never one execution that large (3000+ deaths?).
I believe the government in the USA to be civilized.
Recently de-classified CIA documents show that Pres. Lyndon B Johnson ordered a Navy carrier to stand down as its nearby US boat was bombarded by an Israeli airplane. They wanted to sink the boat, because it would have justified US involvement in the war in Egypt. Look it up. His words? "I want that boat at the bottom of ght g*dd*mn sea!"
That was a US President, ordering the sinking of a US ship to justify war.
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Man this 240 kid needs to learn a bit more
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As usual 240 is too occupied with his deformed mind.
You still havnt adressed any of the FACTS I pointed out.Pure math/physics equations.
Your whole theroy is based on lame assumptions of people who appearntly dont know how to calculate simple kinemathics equations.
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Allow me to own the pancake theory:
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Tell me one thing 240...
do you get this a lot? ;D
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Just kiddin' mang.
I definitely back your rights to question everything.
YIP
Zack
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People do question me, but I don't mind it. They're often close-minded to the utilitarian nature of govts. They can freely admit that someone like Hitler could fake attacks but cannot fathom the possibility that it could happen here.
if you put out all the morality you've been taught, and put yourself in the shoes of a govt responsible for 300M people. If killing 3000 ensures that these 300M have a better quality of life (economically and resource-Wise) for the next few generations, they consider it. If killing 3000 justifies actions that they feel are *better* for the longterm sustainability of those 300M, there are many would approve of it.
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Looks pretty flimsy to me. ::) Why is it that they always show it differently when it comes to the pancake theory? :P
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240, if you assume the Bush administration is responsible for this that means they had 8 months to plan and execute all this. 8 months. There's just no way possible. And if the planning for this grand master plan started under the Clinton admin. what do you think happened, did Clinton pull Bush aside the day of the inauguration and whisper in his ear "Listen George, on Sept 11 we're going to bring down the twin towers, fly a plane into the pentagon and fly one into the White House (that part of the master plan failed in a field in PA). What, did Bush just go "OK, that sounds like a great idea, that's exactly what the country needs." You can't even get a blow job in the White House without the world finding out but you can plan and execute the biggest terror attack this country has ever seen and keep it a secret? It's just not possible.
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1) Planning could have been started long before they assumed office.
2) We were able to execute war upon Afghanistan 3 weeks after 9/11. You're telling me they couldn't plan 911 in 8 months?
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and keep it a secret? It's just not possible.
Gag orders - you speak, you go to jail.
911 Victims Assistance - $3.1M reasons to STFU.
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Gag orders - you speak, you go to jail.
911 Victims Assistance - $3.1M reasons to STFU.
Hey 240 I just watched V for Vendetta...did you ...where did they get that screenplay huh ?
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Hey 240 I just watched V for Vendetta...did you ...where did they get that screenplay huh ?
I haven't seen that, any good?
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1) Planning could have been started long before they assumed office.
2) We were able to execute war upon Afghanistan 3 weeks after 9/11. You're telling me they couldn't plan 911 in 8 months?
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Yes, I'm telling you there's no way Bush could have planned all this in 8 months. impossible. Just how in the world was Bush, then the governor of Texas able to find 20 muslims that would be willing to hijack these planes and never say a world about it to anyone who would be willing to reveal Bush's plan. And if you remember, the 20th hijacker just got a life sentence for his part in this. Why didn't he just reveal the master plan during his trial? And why would Bush even be dreaming of something like this while he was Governor of Texas? If Bush and Cheney started planning this before they took office, why, what was there to gain for them?
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I haven't seen that, any good?
The story line is basically the same 911 conspiracy story but set in England...
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The story line is basically the same 911 conspiracy story but set in England...
I would still do Natalie Portman even though she's bald. :P
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ahhh.
I guess I respect all viewpoints on 911. but I feel there are so many unanswered questions - and so many firefighters/police from that day describing a demolition - that there shuld be a second investigation.
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ahhh.
I guess I respect all viewpoints on 911. but I feel there are so many unanswered questions - and so many firefighters/police from that day describing a demolition - that there shuld be a second investigation.
There are many unanswered questions, but often the most obvious answer ends up being the correct one. Osama's mission in life has always been to get America and it looks like he accomplished that on Sept 11. Rest assured he won that round but he will not win another.
And how exactly is a building that's been hit by a jet full of fuel supposed to react? It's tough to really know since it's not something that happens every day and we don't have those examples to use as a reference.
by the way, great job on the Mr. GetBig, you really came through big. I'm really looking forward to sept.
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Building 7 should at least be investigated. They never addressed it in the 911 Commission - they just decided it was a mystery. IF they find it was demolished from within, they should reopen everything. That might be a fair compromise :)
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Me too - should be exciting that weekend. The sept 23 Atlantic City pro being webcast, and the mr getbig results. this place shoudl be jumping that weekend!
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Building 7 should at least be investigated. They never addressed it in the 911 Commission - they just decided it was a mystery. IF they find it was demolished from within, they should reopen everything. That might be a fair compromise :)
(http://www.waronfreedom.org/pix/wtc7-demolition.gif)
Me too - should be exciting that weekend. The sept 23 Atlantic City pro being webcast, and the mr getbig results. this place shoudl be jumping that weekend!
IF they find building 7 was in fact demolished from within, then you are absolutely right, all bets are off and everything that happened that day should be brought into question. I'm sure we haven't heard or read the last of what happened that day. Let's hope some day we can all agree on some definitive answers to the questions so the families most affected can have peace with the events of that day.
good luck to you in the contest. I'd love to see an underdog come out of nowhere and make a good showing so stay away from those M&Ms!!!
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if you put out all the morality you've been taught, and put yourself in the shoes of a govt responsible for 300M people. If killing 3000 ensures that these 300M have a better quality of life (economically and resource-Wise) for the next few generations, they consider it. If killing 3000 justifies actions that they feel are *better* for the longterm sustainability of those 300M, there are many would approve of it.
"How much evil must we do in order to do good? We have certain ideals, certain responsibilities. Recognize that at times you will have to engage in evil...
There's a wonderful phrase: 'the fog of war.' What "the fog of war" means is: war is so complex it's beyond the ability of the human mind to comprehend all the variables. Our judgment, our understanding, are not adequate. And we kill people unnecessarily.
Morris: We see what we want to believe.
McNamara: You're absolutely right. Belief and seeing, they're both often wrong."
Robert MCNamara....The Fog of War
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Tell me this - To everyone that disputes the evidence of 911...
In your mind, is our govt capable of killing a large number of its own citizens to meet a political agenda? Answer that first.
It really doesn't make sense to me. Why would Bush need to do that to use it as an excuse to attack Iraq? He always just makes up a big lie, no need to do something like that.
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OMFG!! Thats such a weak argument.Who said that video is right?
Ok Im done here...I dont want to talk about black ops anymore...Im affraid the goverment will kill me ::)
240 behind you! An NSA agent :o ::)
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Isn't it possible that the planes had explosives on board?
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Isn't it possible that the planes had explosives on board?
Not needed.THOUSENDS tons of JET fuel and 800mph got enough energy.
Oh wait...some retard who sold a book for 240 and profit on his ass said it not... ::)
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Not needed.THOUSENDS tons of JET fuel and 800mph got enough energy.
Oh wait...some retard who sold a book for 240 and profit on his ass said it not... ::)
No. A lot of scientists have stated that the Jet Explosion wouldn't have enough energy to make the towers collapse.
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Not just a collapse - we're talking the complete pulverization of 110 stories of concrete and steel. The difference in a collapse - and complete transformation from solid structure to fine dust powder - is astounding. The entire jet's potential energy - even had none burned up outside the towers - still could not have converted the building to dust in less than 60 minutes.
But don't take my word for it. If you watch the news, it's coming out on its own. Do your own research. It might not be the physics of the buildings, the ignoring of secret service protocol that day, it might be something else. Everyone has their own smoking gun that puts doubt into their mind.
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I'm pretty sure Roosevelt knew about Pearl Arbour too.
It wouldn't be the first time our government would use, if not plan, an act such as 911 to achieve their goals.
Some things just don't add up... I have to agree with 240 there...
oh, uh, the skinny mini thing was pretty disturbing... But it does make a statement about Bast's flamboyant guay tendencies.