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Title: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 11:47:23 AM
You hear "hard work" thrown around and touted as if it is some badge of courage when it simply is a way to appease, trick and fool the mindless masses into encouragement to keep "the conveyor belt" going.  It gives the automata a chance for a false sense of reflection for purpose and usefulness which fulfills the lie or myth that the harder one works, the more rewarding it becomes even at the cost of happiness and dare I say life.


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The NAZI regime knew full well this paradox and made sure that the motto, "Arbeit Macht Frei", or "Work makes men free", was the first and the last thing any prisoner saw as they were led into and out of the various Work concentration camps.  The credulous went on believing that perhaps if they work hard or harder or the hardest they will have a chance of freedom and happiness. While the circumstances for today are certainly different, the same motto still exists and flourishes which leaves the incredulity of the paradox wholly intact.

The idea that hard work is somehow an exercise in nobility or purity is truly mislabeled and is in fact missing the tag of futility and perhaps even ignorance.  If anyone has read George Orwell`s Animal Farm he warns of the same point with the characterization of Boxer the horse.  Boxer was the hardest working member of the farm who, when things got tough or when he did not understand simple concepts, reverted to his own personal motto of "Must....Work...HARDER!".  Boxer was also portrayed as being very strong and able, but also very dumb and unquestioning.  He nearly works himself to death, and after his usefulness is nearly expended, he is tricked into getting into a van which takes him to be slaughtered for glue.




This all parallels today:


In case you haven`t guessed by now, I stack my chips under the SMART WORK school of thought as opposed to the HARD WORK mantra.  I will be curious to see who comes out in favor of the opposite as I have seen some of the mindless tout the above freely and use it to mask and cover their envy and despisal of the educated or the privileged or affluent.

The history of America has rewarded the ones who favor Smart Work by allowing them to use and exploit those fooled into doing "Hard Work" all the while the "Hard Workers" don`t even realize it.  They choose instead to continually to polish that thinly gilded badge of courage and present it whenever challenged not recognizing that the badge is but a gifted faux ornament from their masters.
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Post by: Mars on December 03, 2008, 11:53:46 AM
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Bluto on December 03, 2008, 11:55:36 AM
dorian worked harder in the gym than ronnie
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Post by: Mars on December 03, 2008, 11:57:12 AM
theres no god but god and muhammed is the messenger of god.
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 11:57:26 AM
Working smarter is definately the way to go. Alot of physical jobs require more "hard work" than most and current workers in this field will tout the whole "work harder" mantra like the rest of society doesn't work as hard as them. Ironically it was said workers who were the ones who failed school due to lack of intelligence or generally just being lazy and doing other things when they should of been learning.

That being said, there is nothing wrong with "working hard" per se but it's the stupidity and herd mentality that usually comes with it which is what annoys me.
Exactly.
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Post by: Alex23 on December 03, 2008, 11:59:50 AM
"Hard" working ensures and provides validation from the social group.

Same as using its own gimmick as above to validate his own thread.




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Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 12:05:29 PM
I do think "Hard Work" can be noble if it is treated fairly and not exploited.  This is also the crux of my argument.  "Hard Workers" tend to be self depricating and do not realize that the ones who they claim to hate, have them carefully lined in position which makes the ones in control, the sole benefactors of the worker`s labor instead of the other way around. 

Karl Marx is right in this sense that the workers do not realize they are being used as pawns and therefore glorify themselves with a false sense of honor and purpose when the real fight should be for equality and betterment.
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Post by: Bluto on December 03, 2008, 12:12:43 PM
hard work AND smart work

how about that

kinda like my posting

the hard work is the sheer volume

the smart work is the content

quality AND quantity

Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 12:17:06 PM
hard work AND smart work

how about that

kinda like my posting

the hard work is the sheer volume

the smart work is the content

quality AND quantity


I think that concept is viable as I do recognize that both do not have to be mutually exclusive.  Sadly, most are herded into one minus the other as our American society has dictated from day one.
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Post by: LASTREP72 on December 03, 2008, 12:20:48 PM
"Hard work" for me would a few extra hours in the lab - or doing some extensive literature seaches to find some solution to an experiment based problem. For one year during undergrad I was outta school working out of a labor pool then as a pest control tech - that shiit was for the birds!! But still in my line of profession as in education our administrators have the highest salaries with less education - so I guess they are woking smarter. I though about getting out of the lab but I love what I do.

BTW - It's all about working smarter - yes that work hard shiit is drilled into people who lie at the bottom - so those at the top won't have to work hard.
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Post by: Big Worm on December 03, 2008, 12:22:03 PM
dorian worked harder in the gym than ronnie
Not true.
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Post by: Marty Champions on December 03, 2008, 12:34:00 PM
smart work=drug dealing
hardwork=carpentry
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Post by: Mars on December 03, 2008, 12:34:56 PM
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Alex23 on December 03, 2008, 12:35:51 PM
smart work=drug dealing
hardwork=carpentry

Falcon, you do manual work. Do you take pride in your work?
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Post by: dr.chimps on December 03, 2008, 12:36:09 PM
'Four legs good, two legs bad.'    ;)
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Post by: jaejonna on December 03, 2008, 12:38:14 PM
dont work harder, work smarter
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Post by: flagadajones on December 03, 2008, 12:47:57 PM
 people with high paid jobs often feel as bad as "dumb" people without diplomas who work manual jobs ...

hapiness has nothing to do with only the job you're doing, it's a mix of  social sucess and fullfilment in your job (wathever it is), stable honnest relationships with family/loved ones and the fulfillment of basic needs like having a home tv a car and food in the fridge.

Most people with high paying jobs often complain how stressed and empty they feel on a daily basis, how they lose contact with simple yet important things in life. A lot of them sacrifice their honnesty trying to reach for things that dont even make em happier as they figure it in the end .

Most manual workers complain about their shity job conditions and the "boss", yet are unable to deal with the responsabilities of having a higher place in the hierarchy.

you have people with "bad" jobs being happy (but mostly unhappy), and people with "good" jobs being unhappy (and rarely happy).

What is rarer, are people happy with their jobs wether it's a good or bad one. Basically everyone think working sucks.

It's all about one's mindset, there are no general rules to apply to everyone when it comes to personal hapiness.

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Post by: Alex23 on December 03, 2008, 12:48:47 PM
people with high paid jobs often feel as bad as "dumb" people without diplomas who work manual jobs ...

hapiness has nothing to do with only the job you're doing, it's a mix of  social sucess and fullfilment in your job (wathever it is), stable honnest relationships with family/loved ones and the fulfillment of basic needs like having a home tv a car and food in the fridge.

Most people with high paying jobs often complain how stressed and empty they feel on a daily basis, how they lose contact with simple yet important things in life.

Most manual workers complain about their shity job conditions and the "boss", yet are unable to deal with the responsabilities of having a higher place in the hierarchy.

you have people with "bad" jobs being happy, and people with "good" jobs being unhappy.

What is rarer, are people happy with their jobs wether it's a good or bad one. Basically everyone think working sucks.




Very true. quoted for it.
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: jaejonna on December 03, 2008, 12:49:51 PM
So what about fools like daddywaddy who pretend to own 3 houses and be thier own boss, but continue to post from some abandoned apt with his junkie freinds? Is he just working hard at being dumb ?
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Post by: CalvinH on December 03, 2008, 12:50:56 PM
So what about fools like daddywaddy who pretend to own 3 houses and be thier own boss, but continue to post from some abandoned apt with his junkie freinds? Is he just working hard at being dumb ?




You gotta love people that work hard to avoid work.
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Post by: Mars on December 03, 2008, 12:51:46 PM
people with high paid jobs often feel as bad as "dumb" people without diplomas who work manual jobs ...

hapiness has nothing to do with only the job you're doing, it's a mix of  social sucess and fullfilment in your job (wathever it is), stable honnest relationships with family/loved ones and the fulfillment of basic needs like having a home tv a car and food in the fridge.

Most people with high paying jobs often complain how stressed and empty they feel on a daily basis, how they lose contact with simple yet important things in life.

Most manual workers complain about their shity job conditions and the "boss", yet are unable to deal with the responsabilities of having a higher place in the hierarchy.

you have people with "bad" jobs being happy, and people with "good" jobs being unhappy.

What is rarer, are people happy with their jobs wether it's a good or bad one. Basically everyone think working sucks.



exactly, the rich ones are unhappy because the neighbours are have more millions on the bank then they have. real pathetic.
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: QuakerOats on December 03, 2008, 12:53:36 PM

Proof TA is an idiot.
coming from the phony Wharton business school MBA. ::)
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Post by: Rami on December 03, 2008, 12:54:56 PM
I always thought cartpusher at walmart is a gallant and noble work. It is smart, because it makes you hard.
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Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 12:55:35 PM

Proof TA is an idiot.
Proof that you never read Marx.

Certainly in his weighty tome, there are many things you could take away and agree with even if you don`t support the entire message.

You would agree with Marx on a whole lot of things I am sure if you bothered to read him.  You can`t just paint it with one broad stroke as being "bad" or "wrong".
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Post by: jaejonna on December 03, 2008, 12:55:42 PM
coming from the phony Wharton business school MBA. ::)
Not as phony as Junkie Falcon...when asked how many houses he owns he replied


only a few myself also partially own some

im decently connected though to find enough work and i have perfect credit
hahahahahahah the dude doesnt even own a clean pair of boxer shorts hahah
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Post by: Marty Champions on December 03, 2008, 12:56:40 PM
Falcon, you do manual work. Do you take pride in your work?

of course, i want the job to be perfect. but at times i hate being at work
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Post by: QuakerOats on December 03, 2008, 12:57:02 PM
Proof that you never read Marx.

Certainly in his weighty tome, there are many things you could take away and agree with even if you don`t support the entire message.

You would agree with Marx on a whole lot of things I am sure if you bothered to read him.  You can`t just paint it with one broad stroke as being "bad" or "wrong".
i don't think "goat" read much Marx or Engels at the mighty Wharton School of Business, too busy hob knobbing with Trump's kids and meeting hairy Iranian women. ::)
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Post by: jaejonna on December 03, 2008, 12:58:06 PM
of course, i want the job to be perfect. but at times i hate being at work
Falcon is sitting on several properties , he is rich beyond words  ::) ::)

look he said it himself

sorry but u dont have to work that much, all u gotta do is buy a cheap house fix it up yourself and rent it out , and the house u should aim for should pay itself off in ten years with the rent you get per month and yearly
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Post by: Marty Champions on December 03, 2008, 01:01:53 PM
Falcon is sitting on several properties , he is rich beyond words  ::) ::)

look he said it himself
 

not rich but i do have job security
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: jaejonna on December 03, 2008, 01:02:47 PM
not rich but i do have job security
So you OWN a few houses ? a few meaning at least 3 right ?
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Post by: flagadajones on December 03, 2008, 01:02:50 PM
well as soon as you start comparing yourself to those who have more, you re screwed and condemn yourself to frustration and anger.

Some smart asses like buddhists recommend us to compare ourselves to those who have less instead of being jealous/envious of those who have more.

Problem is, it doesnt help much either in our modern world, cause you are forced 24/7 to envy those who seem to have more (judging by the current fashion standards) if you live in any normal city or suburb of the civilized world.

Damn, even goatfuckers living in huts made of feces have TV and envy the north american/european average joes. This crap is even where originates the globalization and the huge conflict of identities we starting to see worldwide. Basically everyone want to be richer and better. But what if that goal wasnt the good one? considering most people aint going happier getting richer and owning more stuff than the others, how do you explain that it is what drive all human beings everywhere in the world? We aint going nowhere here.


Everything goes fine in one's mind as long as he doesnt see someone who he identifies has having more than him in any noticeable area: wether it's love, money , attention sucess etc


It's interesting to notice animals dont compare themselves to their fellows hence dont know "psychological" pain and suffering.
Only human who developed large brains and more complicated feelings have to deal with this.

And the only thing they managed to do to deal with comparing themselves to the others are some bullshits like "dont compare yourself to those who have more, but compare yourself to those who have less" ...yeah ...nice idea genius, but how do i do that when everything i see on tv, plastered over the wholes and screens everywhere i look show me what i dont have, what i am not, and what i "should" have or be?



Whatever the way you look at this, the only thing you can do is get away from all this modern society influencial crap and focus on the basics to find something more consistant to feed your brain with.

This society is producing unhappy human beings wether they re rich or poor.

The point of life isnt to get richer nor to be poor, it's something else between and looks like everyone has to find it by himself. Nobody aint going to help you being happier.
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Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 01:04:20 PM
not rich but i do have job security
Security operates on the basis of fear which I find amusing.
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Post by: Alex23 on December 03, 2008, 01:05:37 PM
Security operates on the basis of fear which I find amusing.

and you're above that?
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Post by: jaejonna on December 03, 2008, 01:06:19 PM
Security operates on the basis of fear which I find amusing.
Do you believe that your friend Johnny Falcon is the owner of a 'few houses' and partial owner to 'some others' True Adonis...or is he just merely embellishing the facts.
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 01:08:37 PM
well as soon as you start comparing yourself to those who have more, you re screwed and condemn yourself to frustration and anger.

Some smart asses like buddhists recommend us to compare ourselves to those who have less instead of being jealous/envious of those who have more.

Problem is, it doesnt help much either in our modern world, cause you are forced 24/7 to envy those who seem to have more (judging by the current fashion standards) if you live in any normal city or suburb of the civilized world.

Damn, even goatfuckers living in huts made of feces have TV and envy the north american/european average joes.


Everything goes find in one's mind as long as he doesnt see someone who he identifies has having more than him in any noticeable area: wether it's love, money , attention sucess etc


It's interesting to notice animals dont compare themselves to their fellows hence dont know "psychological" pain and suffering.
Only human who developed large brains and more complicated feelings have to deal with this.

And the only thing they managed to do to deal with comparing themselves to the others are some bullshits like "dont compare yourself to those who have more, but compare yourself to those who have less" ...yeah ...nice idea genius, but how do i do that when everything i see on tv, plastered over the wholes and screens everywhere i look show me what i dont have, what i am not, and what i "should" have or be?



Whatever the way you look at this, the only thing you can do is get away from all this modern society influencial crap and focus on the basics to find something more consistant to feed your brain with.

This society is producing unhappy human beings wether they re rich or poor.

The point of life isnt to get richer nor to be poor, it's something else between and looks like everyone has to find it by himself. Nobody aint going to help you being happier.
Your point is taken, but humans are NOT the only animals that try to impress with objects or perceived wealth.

I think you will find this bit of animal behavior by the Bower Bird fascinating.  Everyone should watch this:

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Post by: flagadajones on December 03, 2008, 01:09:00 PM
Security operates on the basis of fear which I find amusing.

it means it's instinctive. It means jhonny is closest of the animal than any of us: he s doing what he has to do , what he's programmed to do and know somehow that everythign else is bullshit. Name it how you want, i consider it's being wise.

Sometime being wise is to accept you're just an animal trying to survive doing basic stuff and call it a day.

You re the kind of self centered pedent loser who thinks he s better than everyone yet you spend your whole life trying to get attention and validation from the others to feel good about yourself. Looks like you need the others too heh? Like any animal .

asshat. You're the one who 's amusing here. Basically you spend your life pretending you are something you are not,  to understand later that you are just like everyone else. Your superiority thing is just in your head.
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Post by: Alex23 on December 03, 2008, 01:09:53 PM
Do you believe that your friend Johnny Falcon is the owner of a 'few houses' and partial owner to 'some others' True Adonis...or is he just merely embellishing the facts.

Looking good there...

(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f115/Jaejonna/jjbacljune28.gif)

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Post by: jaejonna on December 03, 2008, 01:10:45 PM
Looking good there...

(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f115/Jaejonna/jjbacljune28.gif)


is that sarcasm because the photo is morphed because it was from my phone or are you being sincere ?
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Post by: Mars on December 03, 2008, 01:10:50 PM
yes jaejonna has muscles.
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Post by: QuakerOats on December 03, 2008, 01:11:26 PM
big ass shoulders and back on JJ for sure.
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Post by: Alex23 on December 03, 2008, 01:12:00 PM
is that sarcasm because the photo is morphed because it was from my phone or are you being sincere ?

if you have to ask that q, pretty insecure. Good shoulders, traps and lower lats are popping out.
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Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 01:13:04 PM

If that does not work then this should:




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Post by: jaejonna on December 03, 2008, 01:13:47 PM
if you have to ask that q, pretty insecure. Good shoulders, traps and lower lats are popping out.
well thanks for the compliment then, i wouldnt say im insecure just that its getbig ....
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Post by: dr.chimps on December 03, 2008, 01:14:36 PM



You gotta love people that work hard to avoid work.
Jerry in reference to George!?  :D
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Post by: Alex23 on December 03, 2008, 01:15:35 PM
well thanks for the compliment then, i wouldnt say im insecure just that its getbig ....

Can't blame you... but I usually call it like I see it, good and bad, hence destroying countless t-tits over the years...
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Post by: Marty Champions on December 03, 2008, 01:15:40 PM
Security operates on the basis of fear which I find amusing.

if i were to lose property and everything i currently own by whatever reason, i wouldnt be botherd a bit probably releived to an extent , just simply would have to survive like anyone would. all id need is some food thats easy to find and make me a shelter in the woods and kidnap some fine assed hoes
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Post by: Alex23 on December 03, 2008, 01:16:44 PM
if i were to lose property and everything i currently own by whatever reason, i wouldnt be botherd a bit probably releived to an extent , just simply would have to survive like anyone would. all id need is some food thats easy to find and make me a shelter in the woods and kidnap some fine assed hoes

;D
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Post by: Marty Champions on December 03, 2008, 01:18:56 PM
;D

i would kinda enjoy being alienated by god by having all my material needs taken away from  me and having to resort to kidnapping fine assed hoes stealthy like a ninja falcon and going dumpster diving for my caloric needs
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Post by: jaejonna on December 03, 2008, 01:19:41 PM
if i were to lose property and everything i currently own by whatever reason, i wouldnt be botherd a bit probably releived to an extent , just simply would have to survive like anyone would. all id need is some food thats easy to find and make me a shelter in the woods and kidnap some fine assed hoes
Anyone who has owned property or possessions of any sorts would not say that they wouldn't be bothered or relieved to some extent, Ralph Waldo Emerson died a long time ago and if that were the case then why do you purchase things ?  I think you need some help bro, the drugs are making your brain mush, you come here and try to live outside the realm of reality projecting some image and ideas that are not in line with what really is. Oh well you can take the horse to the river but you cant make him drink it i guess.
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Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 01:21:06 PM
I find this amazing.




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Post by: jaejonna on December 03, 2008, 01:21:43 PM
alot of getbig legends having a grown up discussion.... good thread
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Post by: QuakerOats on December 03, 2008, 01:22:19 PM
i would kinda enjoy being alienated by god by having all my material needs taken away from  me and having to resort to kidnapping fine assed hoes stealthy like a ninja falcon and going dumpster diving for my caloric needs
:D
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Post by: Marty Champions on December 03, 2008, 01:22:52 PM
Anyone who has owned property or possessions of any sorts would not say that they wouldn't be bothered or relieved to some extent, Ralph Waldo Emerson died a long time ago and if that were the case then why do you purchase things ?  I think you need some help bro, the drugs are making your brain mush, you come here and try to live outside the realm of reality projecting some image and ideas that are not in line with what really is. Oh well you can take the horse to the river but you cant make him drink it i guess.

you dont know too many property managers then...theres alot of hassel, collecting rent (always late payers sometimes they dont pay all u can get is a civil judgment and it only makes there credit go bad you dont get any money if they cant pay) also damage the rental units..im not complaining though but it wouldnt bother me if i didnt have a dime to spend honestly, but i do and thats just the way it is for now
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Post by: Alex23 on December 03, 2008, 01:23:00 PM
I find this amazing.





Not as amazing as this;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYyQEfBxkO8
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Post by: jaejonna on December 03, 2008, 01:25:41 PM
you dont know too many property managers then...theres alot of hassel, collecting rent (always late payers sometimes they dont pay all u can get is a civil judgment and it only makes there credit go bad you dont get any money if they cant pay) also damage the rental units..im not complaining though but it wouldnt bother me if i didnt have a dime to spend honestly, but i do and thats just the way it is for now
thanks for answering my questions , take another hit Einstein  ::) ::)
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Post by: MAXX on December 03, 2008, 01:30:33 PM
i would kinda enjoy being alienated by god by having all my material needs taken away from  me and having to resort to kidnapping fine assed hoes stealthy like a ninja falcon and going dumpster diving for my caloric needs
make it happen Falcon
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Post by: flagadajones on December 03, 2008, 01:33:46 PM
Anyone who has owned property or possessions of any sorts would not say that they wouldn't be bothered or relieved to some extent, Ralph Waldo Emerson died a long time ago and if that were the case then why do you purchase things ?  I think you need some help bro, the drugs are making your brain mush, you come here and try to live outside the realm of reality projecting some image and ideas that are not in line with what really is. Oh well you can take the horse to the river but you cant make him drink it i guess.
you know what, if i had to meet daddy, alex or true anus in real life and sympathize, i would obviously pick daddy cause at least he s down to earth. Yes he also thought for some times that he was some kind of e-guru cause some people hapened to congratulate him for his past creatinebloated physique , but he quickly figured that it was all a joke and decided to show off the way he is.

It's also interesting to see how everyone shat on his face when he hapened to stop creatine and lost tons of water muscle.

I guess he became more humble.

To the oposite of guys like true anus who keep on telling thesmelves they are better than anyone else. Why? because you lift wights and built some muscles?
So do a lot of people on here ! Cause you have a job? So do a lot of us here! Cause you have a.."BETTER" job? so what? looks like it doesnt make you feel happier cause you still needed to build yourself a pathetic internet persona to project a biased, idealized and ridiculous image of yourself to the face of perfect strangers.

what is the point of this thread again?

what is the point of most threads ? True anus want to prove for some reasons that he understood something we dumbasses didnt understand. He s just bragging about himself, and it's the goal of absolutely every and each of his posts. Why does he do that? cause he aint happy for shit and thinks that doing so will make him feel better as long as the thread stay under his "control".

Most people on here are trying to portray themselves as people they arent.

At least jonnywaddy stopped doing so and is saying what he has to say the way he want to say it even if it's retarded and funny.  He's just here to share, not to prove everyone he's smarter . That's what people like true anus do constantly.

Everysingle thing they think about and say is about promoting themselves instead of sharing anything truly positive with the others.  He aint building anything. He's just showing off and nobody gives a damn fuck about it.

Jonny waddy is what he is and he doesn't care, he doesnt need to pretend, he is.

Thats why i d pick dady for a real life discussion any day instead of true anus. I bet this retard doesnt have any fulfilling relationships with anyone in real life. Seriously, most people would want to bitchslap him after one sentence.
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 01:36:52 PM
you know what, if i had to meet daddy, alex or true anus in real life and sympathize, i would obviously pick daddy cause at least he s down to earth. Yes he also thought for some times that he was some kind of e-guru cause some people hapened to congratulate him for his past creatinebloated physique , but he quickly figured that it was all a joke and decided to show off the way he is.

It's also interesting to see how everyone shat on his face when he hapened to stop creatine and lost tons of water muscle.

I guess he became more humble.

To the oposite of guys like true anus who keep on telling thesmelves they are better than anyone else. Why? because you lift wights and built some muscles?
So do a lot of people on here ! Cause you have a job? So do a lot of us here! Cause you have a.."BETTER" job? so what? looks like it doesnt make you feel happier cause you still needed to build yourself a pathetic internet persona to project a biased, idealized and ridiculous image of yourself to the face of perfect strangers.

what is the point of this thread again?

what is the point of most threads ? True anus want to prove for some reasons that he understood something we dumbasses didnt understand. He s just bragging about himself, and it's the goal of absolutely every and each of his posts. Why does he do that? cause he aint happy for shit and thinks that doing so will make him feel better as long as the thread stay under his "control".

Most people on here are trying to portray themselves as people they arent.

At least jonnywaddy stopped doing so and is saying what he has to say the way he want to say it even if it's retarded and funny.  He's just here to share, not to prove everyone he's smarter . That's what people like true anus do constantly.

Everysingle thing they think about and say is about promoting themselves instead of sharing anything truly positive with the others.  He aint building anything. He's just showing off and nobody gives a damn fuck about it.

Jonny waddy is what he is and he doesn't care, he doesnt need to pretend, he is.

Thats why i d pick dady for a real life discussion any day instead of true anus. I bet this retard doesnt have any fulfilling relationships with anyone in real life. Seriously, most people would want to bitchslap him after one sentence.
My point was to invoke discussion.  Please show where I am trying to self-aggrandize.

No one can make you feel inferior without your consent. -Eleanor Roosevelt
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Alex23 on December 03, 2008, 01:37:47 PM
I feel a brutal dump comming on after getting back from Wendy's.

I'm jealous on both counts.
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: QuakerOats on December 03, 2008, 01:42:28 PM
you know what, if i had to meet daddy, alex or true anus in real life and sympathize, i would obviously pick daddy cause at least he s down to earth. Yes he also thought for some times that he was some kind of e-guru cause some people hapened to congratulate him for his past creatinebloated physique , but he quickly figured that it was all a joke and decided to show off the way he is.

It's also interesting to see how everyone shat on his face when he hapened to stop creatine and lost tons of water muscle.

I guess he became more humble.

To the oposite of guys like true anus who keep on telling thesmelves they are better than anyone else. Why? because you lift wights and built some muscles?
So do a lot of people on here ! Cause you have a job? So do a lot of us here! Cause you have a.."BETTER" job? so what? looks like it doesnt make you feel happier cause you still needed to build yourself a pathetic internet persona to project a biased, idealized and ridiculous image of yourself to the face of perfect strangers.

what is the point of this thread again?

what is the point of most threads ? True anus want to prove for some reasons that he understood something we dumbasses didnt understand. He s just bragging about himself, and it's the goal of absolutely every and each of his posts. Why does he do that? cause he aint happy for shit and thinks that doing so will make him feel better as long as the thread stay under his "control".

Most people on here are trying to portray themselves as people they arent.

At least jonnywaddy stopped doing so and is saying what he has to say the way he want to say it even if it's retarded and funny.  He's just here to share, not to prove everyone he's smarter . That's what people like true anus do constantly.

Everysingle thing they think about and say is about promoting themselves instead of sharing anything truly positive with the others.  He aint building anything. He's just showing off and nobody gives a damn fuck about it.

Jonny waddy is what he is and he doesn't care, he doesnt need to pretend, he is.

Thats why i d pick dady for a real life discussion any day instead of true anus. I bet this retard doesnt have any fulfilling relationships with anyone in real life. Seriously, most people would want to bitchslap him after one sentence.
85,000 word meltdown.
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: bigmc on December 03, 2008, 01:46:21 PM
85,000 word meltdown.

haha are you saying flagdanus should cut down on the estrogen tablets
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: QuakerOats on December 03, 2008, 01:48:00 PM
haha are you saying flagdanus should cut down on the estrogen tablets
hahahahaha, dude probably sits around watching the Lifetime network and crying while reciting poetry. ;D
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: bigmc on December 03, 2008, 01:50:53 PM
hahahahaha, dude probably sits around watching the Lifetime network and crying while reciting poetry. ;D

lol, he probably started his period halfway through that post
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 01:51:55 PM

If the goal is greater production for all of society, and better standards of living for the society as a whole, Marx's economic theories have been totally discredited.  In attempting to divide the pie more equally, you inevitably shrink it to the point that even the slices for the lower rungs of society are smaller than they would have been otherwise. 
Please provide links and info to show where they have been ruled as discredited.  What are you basing the accreditation on?  Again with the broad paintbrush?
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 01:52:55 PM

If the goal is greater production for all of society, and better standards of living for the society as a whole, Marx's economic theories have been totally discredited.  In attempting to divide the pie more equally, you inevitably shrink it to the point that even the slices for the lower rungs of society are smaller than they would have been otherwise. 
Also, I am 100 percent positive that you agree with Marx on religion.  You also agree on many other things I am sure so you cannot just toss it all out.
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 03, 2008, 01:53:09 PM
lol, he probably started his period halfway through that post

haha, yes bigmc.  His boyfriend broke up with him for being to feminine. 
Title: Smart work is noble.
Post by: Soundness on December 03, 2008, 01:54:12 PM
Smart work is the only morally right way to work, the more noble work, there's no denying that.
Why? Because we all want our economy to strive. This means an increase in the quality of life.

Smart work is more efficient which ultimately results in greater productivity, which increases the wealth of the population. "Hard work" that is less efficient ("smart") than it could be is not only less productive than it could be, but harmful to an economy. Why? If it could be more efficient ("smarter") that means energy and resources are being literally thrown away. Those additional resources are being used unnecessarily, and could have therefore been devoted to other means, which would have then increased the real wealth of the economy. The industries will evolve. Some will shrink, some will die, some will grow, some will be created.

The goal of a population should be efficiency itself ("smart work") in order to allow for the expansion of existing industries that have not yet grown to their potential and the creation of completely new industries that could yet benefit the population. THESE are the things those unnecessary resources that were spent on the unnecessarily "hard" (less-efficient) work SHOULD be spent on, and would ultimately increase the real wealth (buying power) of the population.

The way I see it: Work hard in smart work.  ;)
Title: Re: Smart work is noble.
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 03, 2008, 01:57:34 PM
Smart work is the only morally right way to work, the more noble work, there's no denying that.
Why? Because we all want our economy to strive. This means an increase in the quality of life.

Smart work is more efficient which ultimately results in greater productivity, which increases the wealth of the population. "Hard work" that is less efficient ("smart") than it could be is not only less productive than it could be, but harmful to an economy. Why? If it could be more efficient ("smarter") that means energy and resources are being literally thrown away. Those additional resources are being used unnecessarily, and could have therefore been devoted to other means, which would have then increased the real wealth of the economy. The industries will evolve. Some will shrink, some will die, some will grow, some will be created.

The goal of a population should be efficiency itself ("smart work") in order to allow for the expansion of existing industries that yet have not yet grown to their potential and the creation of completely new industries that could yet benefit the population. THESE are the things those unnecessary resources that were spent on the unnecessarily "hard" (less-efficient) work SHOULD be spent on, and would have ultimately increased the real wealth (buying power) of the population.

Soundness, meet fagadajones, I think you two will be happy together....
Title: Re: Smart work is noble.
Post by: QuakerOats on December 03, 2008, 01:58:14 PM
Soundness, meet fagadajones, I think you two will be happy together....
hahahaha, exactly, they could spoon while watching Jerry Maguire together. ;D
Title: Re: Smart work is noble.
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 03, 2008, 01:59:18 PM
hahahaha, exactly, they could spoon while watching Jerry Maguire together. ;D

haha, epic "you had me at smart work...." hahaha
Title: Re: Smart work is noble.
Post by: bigmc on December 03, 2008, 02:00:18 PM
haha, epic "you had me at smart work...." hahaha

lol, brutal "show me the vaseline"
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: flagadajones on December 03, 2008, 02:03:11 PM
hard workers are often screwed by smart workers it means smart workers get more for less: they just have to use their brains to manipulate those who are too busy working "hard", and benefit from them.

same goes for politics and everything else in life.

We all know how (well aside from some people who are unemployed cause they re either too lazy or dumb) it works at the job place... you dont have to just work hard, you also often have to be smart if you dont want other people to appropriate your work and benefit from what YOU did.

I guess that like animals do their best to survive, humans try to fuck and backstab their fellows coworkers to be/appear better than them in the eye of the big boss. Wait, isnt that a way to...survive?





Title: Re: Smart work is noble.
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 03, 2008, 02:05:07 PM
lol, brutal "show me the vaseline"

hahah, yes monster..."I love you. You... complete me."
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 02:05:36 PM
hard workers are often screwed by smart workers it means smart workers get more for less: they just have to use their brains to manipulate those who are too busy working "hard", and benefit from them.

same goes for politics and everything else in life.

We all know how (well aside from some people who are unemployed cause they re either too lazy or dumb) it works at the job place... you dont have to just work hard, you also often have to be smart if you dont want other people to appropriate your work and benefit from what YOU did.

I guess that like animals do their best to survive, humans try to fuck and backstab their fellows coworkers to be/appear better than them in the eye of the big boss. Wait, isnt that a way to...survive?






Where does Sarah Palin fall into all of this?  I`d like to hear your thoughts on that one.
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: J Grey on December 03, 2008, 02:06:37 PM
it's very simple, if you don't use your brain your body will suffer the consequences
you don't get a degree, you'll have to do crap work for life
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: flagadajones on December 03, 2008, 02:09:56 PM
Where does Sarah Palin fall into all of this?  I`d like to hear your thoughts on that one.

sarah palin is a hardworker who got owned by smarter workers (IE leftist journalists, and even republican ones...)

She's typically the girl who was good at doing what she was doing until they chose her as a VP. She had absolutely no room being selected and that's why she failed. It doesnt mean she s not doing a good job as a governor.
And it doesnt mean journalists had to beat the living shit out of her and her family just for the sheer pleasure of massacrating someone who 's in a weak position.

She learned her lesson and will stick to what she knows instead of being naive and deal with the sharks. It's aperfect example of someone who should stay at her place where she's doing good but isnt fit to do more.
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Soundness on December 03, 2008, 02:11:15 PM
PEOPLE, you will get paid relative to what you contribute to the population.

Sometimes,
using the right people for the right things contributes productively to the productivity of the population.
That's "smart work." FACT.
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Marty Champions on December 03, 2008, 02:12:24 PM
you know what, if i had to meet daddy, alex or true anus in real life and sympathize, i would obviously pick daddy cause at least he s down to earth. Yes he also thought for some times that he was some kind of e-guru cause some people hapened to congratulate him for his past creatinebloated physique , but he quickly figured that it was all a joke and decided to show off the way he is.

It's also interesting to see how everyone shat on his face when he hapened to stop creatine and lost tons of water muscle.

I guess he became more humble.

To the oposite of guys like true anus who keep on telling thesmelves they are better than anyone else. Why? because you lift wights and built some muscles?
So do a lot of people on here ! Cause you have a job? So do a lot of us here! Cause you have a.."BETTER" job? so what? looks like it doesnt make you feel happier cause you still needed to build yourself a pathetic internet persona to project a biased, idealized and ridiculous image of yourself to the face of perfect strangers.

what is the point of this thread again?

what is the point of most threads ? True anus want to prove for some reasons that he understood something we dumbasses didnt understand. He s just bragging about himself, and it's the goal of absolutely every and each of his posts. Why does he do that? cause he aint happy for shit and thinks that doing so will make him feel better as long as the thread stay under his "control".

Most people on here are trying to portray themselves as people they arent.

At least jonnywaddy stopped doing so and is saying what he has to say the way he want to say it even if it's retarded and funny.  He's just here to share, not to prove everyone he's smarter . That's what people like true anus do constantly.

Everysingle thing they think about and say is about promoting themselves instead of sharing anything truly positive with the others.  He aint building anything. He's just showing off and nobody gives a damn fuck about it.

Jonny waddy is what he is and he doesn't care, he doesnt need to pretend, he is.

Thats why i d pick dady for a real life discussion any day instead of true anus. I bet this retard doesnt have any fulfilling relationships with anyone in real life. Seriously, most people would want to bitchslap him after one sentence.

im suprised you said something nice about me cause youve made about 100 negative posts towards me and im kinda shocked you said somethin nice

i still think i look pretty good but only when im pumped, ive never ever looked good relaxed unless i was tensing in someway

the only time i ever looked good relaxed when i was 19 and snorting coke and smoking crack for 5 days straight i was about 200 pounds at 6'6 but weak as a bird but abs etched out like the grand canyon

only to lose it in a matter of days binging on icecream
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: jaejonna on December 03, 2008, 02:12:44 PM


Most people on here are trying to portray themselves as people they arent.

At least jonnywaddy stopped doing so and is saying what he has to say the way he want to say it even if it's retarded and funny.  He's just here to share, not to prove everyone he's smarter . That's what people like true anus do constantly.



Jonny waddy is what he is and he doesn't care, he doesnt need to pretend, he is.


Yeah cause he is a crack head pretending to be a multiple home owner and runs his own business and talks to aliens....nothing fictitious about that ...
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 03, 2008, 02:12:46 PM
Man, you two are a match made in getbig heaven...
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: flagadajones on December 03, 2008, 02:13:23 PM
it's very simple, if you don't use your brain your body will suffer the consequences
you don't get a degree, you'll have to do crap work for life

if only it was that simple...

In our modern world chinese indians and pakis are imported to do the job people with tons of diplomas here cant do anymore, cause guys with diplomas from the third world cost less to employ.

How do you explain that ?

Even unskilled workers with no diplomas are getting replaced by unskilled workers from the third world!

Not only does it ruin your theory (wich was ok until globalization took place) but it also proves that nobody has an answer for what is coming as a result of the globalization.

Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: flagadajones on December 03, 2008, 02:15:53 PM
Yeah cause he is a crack head pretending to be a multiple home owner and runs his own business and talks to aliens....nothing fictitious about that ...

didnt read that... my bad.

I thought he just said he was a lawnmower /carpenter/painter.
He's still a lot more down to earth than other Very Important Posters on here.
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Marty Champions on December 03, 2008, 02:16:59 PM
i really dont think hard or smart work is noble

all comes down to the 'type' of person you are, theres four types

people that give other people hell to make them have a shitty day

people that attempt to uplift  others to have a better day and want to make the world better

people who are clueless on how to make themselves better and the world

people who think they are the master of all times and enjoy feeling superior and putting others down

people that dont mind the rest of the world but try to do the best they can for themselves

of course there are more types but its obvious on how many getbiggers fit in these categories
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Marty Champions on December 03, 2008, 02:19:09 PM
Yeah cause he is a crack head pretending to be a multiple home owner and runs his own business and talks to aliens....nothing fictitious about that ...

i do own property and paying off mortgages...
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: J Grey on December 03, 2008, 02:20:37 PM
if only it was that simple...

In our modern world chinese indians and pakis are imported to do the job people with tons of diplomas here cant do anymore, cause guys with diplomas from the third world cost less to employ.

How do you explain that ?

Even unskilled workers with no diplomas are getting replaced by unskilled workers from the third world!

Not only does it ruin your theory (wich was ok until globalization took place) but it also proves that nobody has an answer for what is coming as a result of the globalization.



not really, it's all part of the corporate identity, they want to maximize their profits and minimize the cost
makes sense to them to employ cheap labor and minimize their costs

the CEO of Nike is still making his money  ;)

I have a feeling some day computers are going to be doing alot of people's jobs so we will all be unemployed  :D
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Alex23 on December 03, 2008, 02:20:47 PM
i do own property and paying off mortgages...

I believe you Falcon. People on here have a hard time understanding that it isn't that hard to be successful.

Self saboteurs.
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 03, 2008, 02:21:01 PM
The Falcon is the owner of numerous trailer parks...
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Soundness on December 03, 2008, 02:22:31 PM
i really dont think hard or smart work is noble

all comes down to the 'type' of person you are, theres four types

people that give other people hell to make them have a shitty day

people that attempt to uplift  others to have a better day and want to make the world better

people who are clueless on how to make themselves better and the world

people who think they are the master of all times and enjoy feeling superior and putting others down

people that dont mind the rest of the world but try to do the best they can for themselves

of course there are more types but its obvious on how many getbiggers fit in these categories
(http://www.statesymbolsusa.org/IMAGES/Idaho/Peregrine_Falcon_380.jpg) knows people well.
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: bigdumbbell on December 03, 2008, 02:22:54 PM
Security operates on the basis of fear which I find amusing.
i do also
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: J Grey on December 03, 2008, 02:24:37 PM
it's a global market, I do believe that the governments of countries have to set limits to keep the jobs inside of their country
but for example

if you have a skill and a company is paying you 100 dollars a day and another is paying you 200 a day for the same job
which would you take? the higher paying one

on the company's prespective it's the reverse situation, they take the cheap labor for the same job done
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Marty Champions on December 03, 2008, 02:25:36 PM
The Falcon is the owner of numerous trailer parks...

when i used to ride the school bus as a kid there were always cute teen trailer sluts (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/l_aa76f535d2d9400ba5f615aa8e1f9374.jpg)
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Marty Champions on December 03, 2008, 02:26:54 PM
the real question is. do you think Johnnay Falconis should get back on creatine? is it bad for muh kidneys?
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: flagadajones on December 03, 2008, 02:28:51 PM
fact is smart or hard work doesnt exist. It'S just a false interogation.

But it's obvious the starter of this thread think there are smart and hard workers, and he obviously put himself in the "smart" category.

Hence the reason why i said previously this thread was again all about true anus proving us again that he was smarter than everyone. Problem is not everyone think there are "hard" or "smart" workers, people dont see things the way he sees them. Hence no real communication is possible with him. He's a "Smarter" worker, lifter, driver etc in his own mind. He now believes all this crap he created for himself (well it only works on the internet though) and you can't change his mindset.

It's all about black and white for him. Looks like that's how he manage to deal with real life, and it's ok if it's what floats your boat as long as you dont annoy the shit out of someone who will teach you some lessons.




imo there are just individuals who have different skills, behaviors flaws and strenghts.

If someone is giving his best and feel good about how and what he s doing, then so be it.

As dadyjony said it, who cares as long as nobody come in and say "hey, I'm better than you!"

this guy is often the guy who ends with a black eye pretty quick if he's wrong.

Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 03, 2008, 02:30:14 PM
when i used to ride the school bus as a kid there were always cute teen trailer sluts

haha, yes with low self esteem.  I'm sure the Falcon swooped in on a few of them...
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: J Grey on December 03, 2008, 02:33:00 PM
the real question is. do you think Johnnay Falconis should get back on creatine? is it bad for muh kidneys?

Is it bad for kidneys?

no, not if you drink enough water, 250ml with 2.5 grams
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 02:33:14 PM
sarah palin is a hardworker who got owned by smarter workers (IE leftist journalists, and even republican ones...)

She's typically the girl who was good at doing what she was doing until they chose her as a VP. She had absolutely no room being selected and that's why she failed. It doesnt mean she s not doing a good job as a governor.
And it doesnt mean journalists had to beat the living shit out of her and her family just for the sheer pleasure of massacrating someone who 's in a weak position.

She learned her lesson and will stick to what she knows instead of being naive and deal with the sharks. It's aperfect example of someone who should stay at her place where she's doing good but isnt fit to do more.
Perhaps you should give her and the right wing loons who want her to run for president in 2012 that memo.  She just will not go away.
Title: Re: Smart work is noble.
Post by: kiwiol on December 03, 2008, 02:34:28 PM
haha, epic "you had me at smart work...." hahaha

LMAO!
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: flagadajones on December 03, 2008, 02:35:54 PM
the real question is. do you think Johnnay Falconis should get back on creatine? is it bad for muh kidneys?
i stoped creatine cause i just felt like i was cheating on myself. As soon as you stop doing it it takes some weeks and all gains disapear. It's artificial.
and nobody really know the long term effects of a constant creatine use.

But i guess everything that is abused without monitoring will bite you up the ass in the end.

Another thing is, why cant you live being off (steroids or) creatine? cause they make you feel better? why cant you feel good about yourself or you physique without the help of such substances flowing trhough your body?

most of the time it's because people have psychological problems they re not even aware of and cant deal with.

Problem is even on creatine (or steroids for those who do them) these problems stay.
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: bigmc on December 03, 2008, 02:37:21 PM
i stoped creatine cause i just felt like i was cheating on myself. As soon as you stop doing it it takes some weeks and all gains disapear. It's artificial.
and nobody really know the long term effects of a constant creatine use.

But i guess everything that is abused without monitoring will bite you up the ass in the end.

Another thing is, why cant you live being off (steroids or) creatine? cause they make you feel better? why cant you feel good about yourself or you physique without the help of such substances flowing trhough your body?

most of the time it's because people have psychological problems they re not even aware of.


no offence,

but that is some retarded shit
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Soundness on December 03, 2008, 02:38:01 PM
sarah palin is a hardworker who got owned by smarter workers (IE leftist journalists, and even republican ones...)

She's typically the girl who was good at doing what she was doing until they chose her as a VP. She had absolutely no room being selected and that's why she failed. It doesnt mean she s not doing a good job as a governor.
And it doesnt mean journalists had to beat the living shit out of her and her family just for the sheer pleasure of massacrating someone who 's in a weak position.

She learned her lesson and will stick to what she knows instead of being naive and deal with the sharks. It's aperfect example of someone who should stay at her place where she's doing good but isnt fit to do more.

You're fucking right if you mean she worked "hard" as opposed to "smart." FAIL.
Vice president? FAIL. Abuse of power? FAIL. Banning books? FAIL. Abstinence? FAIL. Flying 20+ hours after your water broke when you're pregnant with a downs syndrome baby, plus slipping in a speech in that time, just because you don't want to have your baby in Texas? FAIL. What a dumb bitch.  ::)
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: J Grey on December 03, 2008, 02:39:07 PM
i stoped creatine cause i just felt like i was cheating on myself. As soon as you stop doing it it takes some weeks and all gains disapear. It's artificial.
and nobody really know the long term effects of a constant creatine use.

But i guess everything that is abused without monitoring will bite you up the ass in the end.

Another thing is, why cant you live being off (steroids or) creatine? cause they make you feel better? why cant you feel good about yourself or you physique without the help of such substances flowing trhough your body?

most of the time it's because people have psychological problems they re not even aware of.


did you happen to see the thread I started the other day about people who consider whey protein and creatine steroids?
all creatine does is help convert ADP to ATP, restoring your fast acting energy faster and hydrates the cells with extra water, it has a water
retention effect, your "gains" were from water retention, and yes it goes away when you stop using it.
it's not a steroid, and people need to get this through their thick stupid doo doo heads

you people need to be educated

oh and you're retarded for saying this dumb shit
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: flagadajones on December 03, 2008, 02:40:57 PM
You're fucking right if you mean she worked "hard" as opposed to "smart." FAIL.
Vice president? FAIL. Abuse of power? FAIL. What a dumb bitch.  ::)
i dont know much of her career, but she s a woman with kids who managed to become governor... i doubt it was a gift (well again im not sure). She might even have been smart to get there...

Now it's obvious she wasnt "smart" (hypocritical and cynical )enough  to swim with larger fishes.
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: J Grey on December 03, 2008, 02:42:29 PM
You're fucking right if you mean she worked "hard" as opposed to "smart." FAIL.
Vice president? FAIL. Abuse of power? FAIL. Banning books? FAIL. Abstinence? FAIL. Flying 20+ hours after your water broke when you're pregnant with a downs syndrome baby, plus slipping in a speech in that time, just because you don't want to have your baby in Texas? FAIL. What a dumb bitch.  ::)

no need to swear young man
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Soundness on December 03, 2008, 02:43:06 PM
i dont know much of her career, but she s a woman with kids who managed to become governor... i doubt it was a gift (well again im not sure). She might even have been smart to get there...

Now it's obvious she wasnt "smart" (hypocritical and cynical )enough  to swim with larger fishes.

True. I agree with this. I don't honestly think she's a person with good character, though. I do think she abused her power and doesn't understand many, many big-picture things. I think her lack of intelligence hinders her view.
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: flagadajones on December 03, 2008, 02:43:42 PM
did you happen to see the thread I started the other day about people who consider whey protein and creatine steroids?
all creatine does is help convert ADP to ATP, restoring your fast acting energy faster and hydrates the cells with extra water, it has a water
retention effect, your "gains" were from water retention, and yes it goes away when you stop using it.
it's not a steroid, and people need to get this through their thick stupid doo doo heads

you people need to be educated

oh and you're retarded for saying this dumb shit

? lol calm down bitch

what you're saying is the same as what ive said: as soon as you stop it gains go away. Even if you built some muscle mass, water retention which is the biggest part of the "gains" go away and you re smaller. Works the same for everyone, and works the same with steroids.

I just thought that was retarded to believe/rely in something that is all illusion, and decided to focus on being content with the physique i naturally sport just eating and lifting.

Most confidence that come with these artificial gains disapear as soon as you stop them. It means sooner or later youll get back to reality / what you are so you'd better deal with it now.
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 02:43:51 PM
fact is smart or hard work doesnt exist. It'S just a false interogation.

But it's obvious the starter of this thread think there are smart and hard workers, and he obviously put himself in the "smart" category.

Hence the reason why i said previously this thread was again all about true anus proving us again that he was smarter than everyone. Problem is not everyone think there are "hard" or "smart" workers, people dont see things the way he sees them. Hence no real communication is possible with him. He's a "Smarter" worker, lifter, driver etc in his own mind. He now believes all this crap he created for himself (well it only works on the internet though) and you can't change his mindset.

It's all about black and white for him. Looks like that's how he manage to deal with real life, and it's ok if it's what floats your boat as long as you dont annoy the shit out of someone who will teach you some lessons.




imo there are just individuals who have different skills, behaviors flaws and strenghts.

If someone is giving his best and feel good about how and what he s doing, then so be it.

As dadyjony said it, who cares as long as nobody come in and say "hey, I'm better than you!"

this guy is often the guy who ends with a black eye pretty quick if he's wrong.


Wrong again.  I gave an either or choice to invoke discussion.  I wasn`t offering an entire buffet of choice, but simply "fries" or "hashbrowns".

You are welcome to digress of course but you are not welcome to misinterpret or mischaracterize my intention.

There is no such thing as black and white unless sterilized from the wash of colors or is it the other colors sterilized so that black and white can emerge?  Either way the original intent was purely hypothetical.
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: J Grey on December 03, 2008, 02:44:02 PM
True. I agree with this. I don't honestly think she's a person with good character, though. I do think she abused her power and doesn't understand many, many big-picture things. I think her lack of intelligence hinders her view.


for the record, yes Palin is more stupid than a toilet cleaning obese redneck
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Soundness on December 03, 2008, 02:44:31 PM

for the record, yes Palin is more stupid than a toilet cleaning obese redneck

 ;)
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 02:44:41 PM
Wrong again.  I gave an either or choice to invoke discussion.  I wasn`t offering an entire buffet of choice, but simply "fries" or "hashbrowns".

You are welcome to digress of course but you are not welcome to misinterpret or mischaracterize my intention.

There is no such thing as black and white unless sterilized from the wash of colors or is it the other colors sterilized so that black and white can emerge?  Either way the original intent was purely hypothetical.
May I also add that my liberal brain does not allow me to see black and white as a realized choice when the issue is too broadly colored.  8)
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: J Grey on December 03, 2008, 02:45:53 PM
? lol calm down bitch

what you're saying is the same as what ive said: as soon as you stop it gains go away. Even if you built some muscle mass, water retention which is the biggest part of the "gains" go away and you re smaller. Works the same for everyone, and works the same with steroids.

I just thought that was retarded to believe in something that is all illusion, and decided to focus on being content with the physique i naturally sport just eating and lifting.

oh noes you're swearing over the internet, you're cool  ::)
the water goes away not the muscle

the creatine allows you to work HARDER and gain more muscle if you work harder because of it, which you will keep
again, you're a moron and need to pick up a book
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: J Grey on December 03, 2008, 02:47:36 PM
May I also add that my liberal brain does not allow me to see black and white as a realized choice when the issue is too broadly colored.  8)

where I live it's communism so all I see is goats
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 02:48:29 PM
You're fucking right if you mean she worked "hard" as opposed to "smart." FAIL.
Vice president? FAIL. Abuse of power? FAIL. Banning books? FAIL. Abstinence? FAIL. Flying 20+ hours after your water broke when you're pregnant with a downs syndrome baby, plus slipping in a speech in that time, just because you don't want to have your baby in Texas? FAIL. What a dumb bitch.  ::)
John Mccain`s aides on Sarah Palin and her families shopping spree. "Wasilla Hillbillies looting Neiman Marcus from coast to coast".  8)
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: J Grey on December 03, 2008, 02:49:39 PM
John Mccain`s aides on Sarah Palin and her families shopping spree. "Wasilla Hillbillies looting Neiman Marcus from coast to coast".  8)


did they ever get those clothes off her back? pay back the tax payers bitch  >:(
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 02:52:47 PM

did they ever get those clothes off her back? pay back the tax payers bitch  >:(
Well there is nothing wrong with the money spent, its just that the RNC told her to buy 3 outfits and thats it.  What did she do instead?  She decided to go hog-wild even borrowing campaign staffers credit cards and tallying up a bill of 200,000 plus for her and her family when she was told by the RNC to only buy 3 or 4 outfits for herself.


The amount of money isn`t really the issue, (although its hard to pull off a Populist Pro Joe the Plumber platform when you are wearing Prada pumps and Chanel Jackets) its the fact that she was told by the higher ups to do one thing and she totally did another.
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Soundness on December 03, 2008, 02:53:00 PM
John Mccain`s aides on Sarah Palin and her families shopping spree. "Wasilla Hillbillies looting Neiman Marcus from coast to coast".  8)

What? You mean I forgot to list another thing this brilliant woman did that was stupid? Surprise!  :o
The perplexing question to me is, can she do anything smart? I really can't honestly say I believe so.

I don't hate her, either, I just think something like that should not be in the vacinity of where she was.
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: flagadajones on December 03, 2008, 02:53:53 PM
oh noes you're swearing over the internet, you're cool  ::)
the water goes away not the muscle

the creatine allows you to work HARDER and gain more muscle if you work harder because of it, which you will keep
again, you're a moron and need to pick up a book

cool you just described what everyone can read on google about creatine and experience while taking some.

But... most gains which are water retention still go away when you stop taking creatine !

Now it looks like you're struggling to understand this very simple part of what ive been trying to tell you.

Maybe because it's so important to you and to your confidence?  ::)

I bet you're the typical creatine-bloated intermediate weight lifter who feels high on creatine ,think there are no more limits to his potential ,and  who is afraid to lose the extra water weight if he doesnt ingest his 2.5 grams of creatine daily!




Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: The True Adonis on December 03, 2008, 02:57:23 PM
“Wasilla Hillbillies Looting Nieman Marcus”

11/5/08, 2:04 pm EST

Palin’s shopping spree was even bigger than the $150K already reported says Newsweek
:


    NEWSWEEK has also learned that Palin’s shopping spree at high-end department stores was more extensive than previously reported. While publicly supporting Palin, McCain’s top advisers privately fumed at what they regarded as her outrageous profligacy. One senior aide said that Nicolle Wallace had told Palin to buy three suits for the convention and hire a stylist. But instead, the vice presidential nominee began buying for herself and her family—clothes and accessories from top stores such as Saks Fifth Avenue and Neiman Marcus.

  According to two knowledgeable sources, a vast majority of the clothes were bought by a wealthy donor, who was shocked when he got the bill. Palin also used low-level staffers to buy some of the clothes on their credit cards. The McCain campaign found out last week when the aides sought reimbursement. One aide estimated that she spent “tens of thousands” more than the reported $150,000, and that $20,000 to $40,000 went to buy clothes for her husband. Some articles of clothing have apparently been lost. An angry aide characterized the shopping spree as “Wasilla hillbillies looting Neiman Marcus from coast to coast,” and said the truth will eventually come out when the Republican Party audits its books.


Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 03, 2008, 03:11:57 PM
When did Adonis become a mudshark?  :-\
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Soundness on December 03, 2008, 03:15:44 PM
the real question is. do you think Johnnay Falconis should get back on creatine? is it bad for muh kidneys?

Johnny, here's how I handle this (Though I don't take creatine.):

Buy one of those clear 1 gallon containers for drinks. Let this be your official water jug. Make sure you at least finish off the whole thing and a little more every 24 hours.

Before you go to bed, make sure it's refilled so it will be full and cold for the next day. Just make sure you polish it off every day, even if it means drinking when you're not thirsty. It's very easy, actually, and it will save your kidneys. ;)
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Rami on December 03, 2008, 03:39:32 PM
If you have a vegetarian diet up to 5 g  of creatine is ok because meat has creatine naturally so you just make up the lack of. But I don't know if it is a essential nutrition.

I'm a vegetarian now so I have a little creatine with meal before and after workout.  If you have it with meal it will absorb slower and better, same with whey protein.

This is to avoid it all hitting your bloodstream at once as whey is predigested and if you let it hit your bloodstream at once it put stress on your system. Like some people take fast acting whey 50+g straight at once, I don't think that's good for you, and a lot is wasted / has to be filtered  out by kidneys. But alittle creatine with a meal is ok for a vegetarian.
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 03, 2008, 03:40:29 PM
.

I'm a vegetarian now...


Dismissed...
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Rami on December 03, 2008, 03:41:49 PM
Dismissed...

ok,

suddenly, life has new meaning...
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: QuakerOats on December 03, 2008, 04:00:38 PM
If you have a vegetarian diet up to 5 g  of creatine is ok because meat has creatine naturally so you just make up the lack of. But I don't know if it is a essential nutrition.

I'm a vegetarian now so I have a little creatine with meal before and after workout.  If you have it with meal it will absorb slower and better, same with whey protein.

This is to avoid it all hitting your bloodstream at once as whey is predigested and if you let it hit your bloodstream at once it put stress on your system. Like some people take fast acting whey 50+g straight at once, I don't think that's good for you, and a lot is wasted / has to be filtered  out by kidneys. But alittle creatine with a meal is ok for a vegetarian.
you must be a monster. :o
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Rami on December 03, 2008, 04:11:48 PM
you must be a monster. :o

I'm working on it.

Right now I would say I'm 50% monster.
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: QuakerOats on December 03, 2008, 04:13:11 PM
I'm working on it.

Right now I would say I'm 50% monster.
i can't even imagine the sheer poundages you must be throwing around after you pre workout bean sprout salad and 3oz. of tofu. :D
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Rami on December 03, 2008, 04:16:17 PM
i can't even imagine the sheer poundages you must be throwing around after you pre workout bean sprout salad and 3oz. of tofu. :D

haha I don't eat soy stuff any more! I don't want to get soy-rage. Nice try though.

Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: jason armstrong on December 03, 2008, 04:16:49 PM
so Adam would you consider yourself a smart worker or hard worker before you got fired from your telemarketer job last year?

Did you have to think about the answers or fumble through a manual to answer them?



Threads like this and people like Adam Anus Apenis and daddy waddy druggie falcon can make you feel good about yourself on even your worst day as they are chronic liars delusional and abusive drug users.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=236928.0

Damn shame there is so much ignorance coming from their finger tips ...really is but they are so stupid and illeterate it's intentional on their part.

Meth/coke/head/marijuana ciggarette/ steroid abusing Waddy and poor little dickless adam taking megadoses of anabolics gh and insulin and still can't break the 165 lb barrier....both are little gay btches anyway...
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Marty Champions on December 03, 2008, 04:27:50 PM
so Adam would you consider yourself a smart worker or hard worker before you got fired from your telemarketer job last year?

Did you have to think about the answers or fumble through a manual to answer them?



Threads like this and people like Adam Anus Apenis and daddy waddy druggie falcon can make you feel good about yourself on even your worst day as they are chronic liars delusional and abusive drug users.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=236928.0

Damn shame there is so much ignorance coming from their finger tips ...really is but they are so stupid and illeterate it's intentional on their part.

Meth/coke/head/marijuana ciggarette/ steroid abusing Waddy and poor little dickless adam taking megadoses of anabolics gh and insulin and still can't break the 165 lb barrier....both are little gay btches anyway...

classic thread just like all my threads

you obviously didnt get the on going joke with "TIME Westcock" id didnt follow his 'diet'(ofcourse not cause im a vegetarian) but i think the old timer deserves alot of respect IMO

ive never done steroids oral or injectable

i have snorted hero-win
i have snorted coke and smoked crack
havent done meth
rarely drink alcohol
smoke weed somtimes but have backed off cause i have my left ear blocked up with wax its kinda infected and i cant hardly hear out of it kinda hurts:( perhaps god is punishing, this was a shitty day for me , its not like i hurt anyone in life but just like to enjoy feeling high when alot of times there are no feelings only hard work it seems...

its ok if u want to pic at me , alot of people do, i see everyone as an extension of me, i dont want to hurt YOU cause that is hurting ME, wish all people would try that for a day. best of luck to you bro
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Soundness on December 03, 2008, 04:43:27 PM
classic thread just like all my threads

you obviously didnt get the on going joke with "TIME Westcock" id didnt follow his 'diet'(ofcourse not cause im a vegetarian) but i think the old timer deserves alot of respect IMO

ive never done steroids oral or injectable

i have snorted hero-win
i have snorted coke and smoked crack
havent done meth
rarely drink alcohol
smoke weed somtimes but have backed off cause i have my left ear blocked up with wax its kinda infected and i cant hardly hear out of it kinda hurts:( perhaps god is punishing, this was a shitty day for me , its not like i hurt anyone in life but just like to enjoy feeling high when alot of times there are no feelings only hard work it seems...

its ok if u want to pic at me , alot of people do, i see everyone as an extension of me, i dont want to hurt YOU cause that is hurting ME, wish all people would try that for a day. best of luck to you bro

It is statements such as this that indicate Johnny has a high degree of brilliance, and a rare yet actual understanding of how things work. Those things you channel your energy towards do become a part of you. Those things that are of concern to you literally become a part of what you are, you adopt the concerns as a part of that "pool" of energy you consider to be "you."

This is why no concern=one's pure self. That way you're only your energy.

A person could never make a statement such as this one Johnny did without understanding a concept so profound.
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Rami on December 03, 2008, 04:45:38 PM
i cant hardly hear out of it kinda hurts:( perhaps god is punishing, this was a shitty day for me , its not like i hurt anyone in life but just like to enjoy feeling high when alot of

Have some xylitol every day http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xylitol
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: The Coach on December 03, 2008, 05:11:18 PM
If you want success you have to work hard and smart. You can't have both.
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Soundness on December 03, 2008, 05:14:59 PM
If you want success you have to work hard and smart. You can't have both.

Contradiction. You mean "you need both?"
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Earl1972 on December 03, 2008, 05:20:29 PM
work smart, never harder than you have to

E
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Soundness on December 03, 2008, 05:22:33 PM
work smart, never harder than you have to

E

Now that is exactly the thinking that won't get you anywhere in life.

You'd probably ask for a raise and claim once you get it, then you'll work harder to earn it.  ::)
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Earl1972 on December 03, 2008, 05:33:25 PM
Now that is exactly the thinking that won't get you anywhere in life.

You'd probably ask for a raise and claim once you get it, then you'll work harder to earn it.  ::)

i don't think you get what i'm saying, son

E


Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Soundness on December 03, 2008, 05:38:37 PM
i don't think you get what i'm saying, son

E




OK, let me try again, switch perspectives...

Are you saying that you should always work smart, but not waste energy unnecessarily, so that you have more left over for other means, therefore increasing productivity yet further?
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Earl1972 on December 03, 2008, 05:40:55 PM
OK, let me try again, switch perspectives...

Are you saying that you should always work smart, but not waste energy unnecessarily, so that you have more left over for other means, therefore increasing productivity yet further?

BINGO!

E
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 03, 2008, 05:45:37 PM
A job ain't nothin' but work.
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Soundness on December 03, 2008, 06:12:09 PM
BINGO!

E

Very wise, Earl.  ;)
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: basurablanco on December 03, 2008, 06:17:43 PM
The NAZI regime knew full well this paradox and made sure that the motto, "Arbeit Macht Frei", or "Work makes men free", was the first and the last thing any prisoner saw as they were led into and out of the various Work concentration camps.  The credulous went on believing that perhaps if they work hard or harder or the hardest they will have a chance of freedom and happiness. While the circumstances for today are certainly different, the same motto still exists and flourishes which leaves the incredulity of the paradox wholly intact.




(http://www-tc.pbs.org/wgbh/questionofgod/images/voices/frankl_sidebar.jpg)
He helped other find the meaning of their lives.
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Soundness on December 03, 2008, 06:18:27 PM
A job ain't nothin' but work.

But, a job, or "work," can be something you love yet are getting paid to do--something you would do whether or not you were getting paid...

If Ron thought,

"You know, 'The Showstoppa' is one damn fine quality poster, and I want to retain the quality of my board by making sure he posts atleast 10 posts every day. I'll offer him $100 per day to do this to retain and promote such quality."

posting atleast 5 posts a day would be your "job." But it would be a "job" you would have done anyways.

The psychologist may love working with the mind. The carpenter may love building things.
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: The True Adonis on December 04, 2008, 09:03:43 PM
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on December 04, 2008, 09:41:27 PM
Great thread as usual Adonis, keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Soundness on December 04, 2008, 09:45:03 PM
Great thread as usual Adonis, keep up the good work!

BTW, Ron Paul could have saved our country. He knows what steps we should take and in what direction. Just wanted to tell you that.  ;)

What he couldn't do is get elected.  :-\
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on December 04, 2008, 09:50:21 PM
BTW, Ron Paul could have saved our country. He knows what steps we should take and in what direction. Just wanted to tell you that.  ;)

You're a smart man!  ;D

Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Soundness on December 04, 2008, 10:58:33 PM
You're a smart man!  ;D



Do you think people wouldn't elect him because of his age if he were to run in 2012?
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on December 04, 2008, 11:29:06 PM
I don't know?  :-\  What do you think?

I hope Jesse Ventura runs.   8)
Title: Re: Which is more Noble to you? "Hard work or SMART work"
Post by: Soundness on December 04, 2008, 11:39:00 PM
I don't know?  :-\  What do you think?

I hope Jesse Ventura runs.   8)

Well, he's gotten a lot of recognition from the economic "crisis." Far more people realize he was right all along now. He may actually get more supporters.

I think his age would certainly be the limiting factor. I'd love for Ron to run and I would go through efforts to get others to vote for him.

Does Jesse have a good understanding of the free market?