Post pics of the furthest you can get being natural!

[wavelength]

This guy is natural. Not in contest shape though.

[James Phoenix]

This guy is natural. Not in contest shape though.

Looking swole brah.

[Kwon]

http://s116.photobucket.com/albums/o33/arce97/?action=view&current=st13.jpg


NO PED here at all. I only weigh 70kg. though.

Thought you weighed more Arce!

[wavelength]

Looking swole brah.

Pretty skinny right now actually, but thanks!

[timfogarty]

This guy is natural. Not in contest shape though.

but to get into contest shape, you'd lose a lot of your muscle.

you can have reasonable amounts of muscle mass without drugs.  you can have conditioning without drugs.  having them both at the same time is pretty much impossible without drugs.

[wavelength]

but to get into contest shape, you'd lose a lot of your muscle.

you can have reasonable amounts of muscle mass without drugs.  you can have conditioning without drugs.  having them both at the same time is pretty much impossible without drugs.

I agree. I already had to give up a lot of muscle for that condition.

[TrueGrit]

This is 'Phatmuscle' from bodybuilding.com. A lifetime natural and snappy dresser. Inspirational .

[Pete Nice]

This is 'Phatmuscle' from bodybuilding.com. A lifetime natural and snappy dresser. Inspirational .

he looks all of 5'2...congrats to him

[TrueGrit]

he looks all of 5'2...congrats to him

His lipstick and fashion sense rock though.

[gh15]

only guys that are natural in those 11 page nonesense are the james kid and the guy with the back twards the camera in the last page,,that is it,,rest of guys been to hormones pro hormones and mnay other interesting candies chasing the muscle  mainly for the girls to like them ,,,and then just because they became ocd to lifting as part of look dysmorphia

remember friends,,taking hormones and related products does not necesseraly means size,,not eveyone wanna be 5'10 230...some like to be 180 chizeled dry veiny ,,some like to maintain swimmer model look so the girls like them better,,,every hormones has its place,,,

size comes only if you want it and eat for it or if not eating enough defenitely resting enough and that means ususally being jobless or having rich girl so you can sleep all day and go for your 1-2 hours in the gym ,,eat sleep compete and walk around to show off what you got ..this is bodybuilding

[chaos]

only guys that are natural in those 11 page nonesense are the james kid and the guy with the back twards the camera in the last page,,that is it,,rest of guys been to hormones pro hormones and mnay other interesting candies chasing the muscle  mainly for the girls to like them ,,,and then just because they became ocd to lifting as part of look dysmorphia

remember friends,,taking hormones and related products does not necesseraly means size,,not eveyone wanna be 5'10 230...some like to be 180 chizeled dry veiny ,,some like to maintain swimmer model look so the girls like them better,,,every hormones has its place,,,

size comes only if you want it and eat for it or if not eating enough defenitely resting enough and that means ususally being jobless or having rich girl so you can sleep all day and go for your 1-2 hours in the gym ,,eat sleep compete and walk around to show off what you got ..this is bodybuilding

I'm pretty sure I saw you starring in Asian scat/bukkake porn, did you only do one video, or have you starred in your own series?

[chris2489]

only guys that are natural in those 11 page nonesense are the james kid and the guy with the back twards the camera in the last page,,that is it,,rest of guys been to hormones pro hormones and mnay other interesting candies chasing the muscle  mainly for the girls to like them ,,,and then just because they became ocd to lifting as part of look dysmorphia

You forgot Sandow, Pandour, and Reeves.

[Method101]

brah.

[Get Rowdy]

You forgot Sandow, Pandour, and Reeves.

And this 18 y/o sexy mofo! haha "Teh Rowdmeister"

[Method101]

And this 18 y/o sexy mofo! haha "Teh Rowdmeister"

the thread is about the natural limit, not what everyone looks like when they walk into a gym for the first time.

[Get Rowdy]

the thread is about the natural limit, not what everyone looks like when they walk into a gym for the first time.

My definition of "natural" includes not training with any sort of weights.  Just furious masturbation to Sasha Grey videos.

[suckmymuscle]

your argument makes no sense, how is whey protein natural? it is derived from milking a cow and isolating fractions, what is natural about that?


first off for you to continue arguing why dont you lay down a definition of natural which can be used.

  I think he means that whey is naturally occuring. Lactalbumin comprises about 3% of milk protein.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[closeline]

today natural seems to be on hormones but not swollen because of eating disorders

i see no naturals at natural s competition, only juiced narrow people

[dr.chimps]

And this 18 y/o sexy mofo! haha "Teh Rowdmeister"

That's not him! The real Rowdy dude sports a porn 'stache.

[Marty Champions]

And this 18 y/o sexy mofo! haha "Teh Rowdmeister"

regrow the stache u look like 'Ron Avidans" weegar offspring


btw good improvements on the double bi, perfecting this pose is one of the first steps in fancying your gaymastery!!!

[Moosejay]

im in a league of my own mentally and physically

not saying that to boast

there are many in the 5-10 percent that have knowledge of self

the rest are just ignorant and suck at everything and probably short hateful people, you could learn a little kindness from somebody tall

btw still big and lean

DW

paint yourself there and you can be part of "Blue Man Group"

[Marty Champions]

DW

paint yourself there and you can be part of "Blue Man Group"

Moose-Jay being a half moose half bird hybrid from historical biblical times, highly revered and respected by the ancient ones in past culture i am inclined to take your advices!

[Moosejay]

this thread ( a great one by the way) is no different to the Chris Faildo thread about his "natural status".

the doubters are comprised of people

1) absolutely no competitive experience, therefore can only guess at what is/isn't possible

I have done 60 shows
2) juicers that are so dependent on their drugs, that they cannot relate to/fathom what true discipline is

Competed 8 years on juice, 15 without...did better without
3) naturals that are so insecure about themselves. that anyone who is bigger or more conditioned "has to be on something"..

These people need to practice a Kurt Weidner, Doug Miller, Brian Whitacre type of bodybuilding lifestyle before attempting
to define what is possible without the use of drugs.

Like I say, if you gotta scream "natural", you ain't

[Moosejay]

Moose-Jay being a half moose half bird hybrid from historical biblical times, highly revered and respected by the ancient ones in past culture i am inclined to take your advices!

DW, you are a funny dude!

[Krankenstein]

only guys that are natural in those 11 page nonesense are the james kid and the guy with the back twards the camera in the last page,,that is it,,rest of guys been to hormones pro hormones and mnay other interesting candies chasing the muscle  mainly for the girls to like them ,,,and then just because they became ocd to lifting as part of look dysmorphia

remember friends,,taking hormones and related products does not necesseraly means size,,not eveyone wanna be 5'10 230...some like to be 180 chizeled dry veiny ,,some like to maintain swimmer model look so the girls like them better,,,every hormones has its place,,,

size comes only if you want it and eat for it or if not eating enough defenitely resting enough and that means ususally being jobless or having rich girl so you can sleep all day and go for your 1-2 hours in the gym ,,eat sleep compete and walk around to show off what you got ..this is bodybuilding

Your shit is pretty old.....you said I was on something when I posted a pic.  Closest thing to drugs I have been is watching a buddy shoot himself with test and equipose.  If you want to say prohormone for me....I did ONE bottle of nor-19....didnt anything worth buying a 2nd bottle.  That was back in the early 90's.  Since then all organizations have pretty much banned the prohormones so I am SOL on using them. 

In the end there will always be people like you who do use and love to point fingers at those who dont and say they do.  Are some of these guys in the thread bullshitters?  Absolutely.  But like I said, guys like Whitacre and Widner....if you ever see them up close...you would know they are not on things like that.