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Title: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 09, 2006, 02:33:12 PM
after seeing this rhino guy lift and all the other lame bodybuilding videos who act like they are completely wasted after 5 sets of back or chest or whatever i think i need to help all who have been brainwashed by these weak ass training methods by drug users.


youtube i beleive uploads up to a maximum 100mb so thats around 18-20 minutes of footage and i can only get in about 40 sets during that time , even that is nothing. I routinely can bust out 60 sets of squats , curls , rows, bench presses, pushups, hanging leg lifts, close grip benches ect...i am disgusted at these stupid bitch workouts!
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: beatmaster on December 09, 2006, 02:36:37 PM

please show us, in two part!!!
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on December 09, 2006, 02:42:33 PM
after seeing this rhino guy lift and all the other lame bodybuilding videos who act like they are completely wasted after 5 sets of back or chest or whatever i think i need to help all who have been brainwashed by these weak ass training methods by drug users.


youtube i beleive uploads up to a maximum 100mb so thats around 18-20 minutes of footage and i can only get in about 40 sets during that time , even that is nothing. I routinely can bust out 60 sets of squats , curls , rows, bench presses, pushups, hanging leg lifts, close grip benches ect...i am disgusted at these stupid bitch workouts!
i totally agree, once you try a true volume workout over hours with millions of sets and reps you cant help but laugh at those who think their 5x5 workouts are 'intense' LOL
little do they know that after those 5 sets they could still do another 30 minutes of lifting in all honesty.
i also have to send out another 'LOL' at those who consider their weightlifting 'sufficient cardio' LOL
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 09, 2006, 02:48:58 PM
i totally agree, once you try a true volume workout over hours with millions of sets and reps you cant help but laugh at those who think their 5x5 workouts are 'intense' LOL
little do they know that after those 5 sets they could still do another 30 minutes of lifting in all honesty.
i also have to send out another 'LOL' at those who consider their weightlifting 'sufficient cardio' LOL


i fully agree, you can go all fuckin out on 5x5 big fuckin deal , thes losers thinks thats all that takes, what these losers need to to is do there all out 5x5 then see if they can keep up with a real workout by adding an additioninal 55 sets!  its much more mental than physical! its easy to get bored when trying to do crazy amount of sets, and just say fuck it and stop after 20-30sets, but who has the fuckin balls to do 60 sets or even 100 sets for one bodypart. its not nearly the most fun entertaining routine but it produces results.

hell i am like most people and really want to just fuckin quit after a good 20-30 sets hell it used to be 10 sets, i start thinking about other shit that would be more fun that 60 set workout, its fuckin brutal!
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: SteelePegasus on December 09, 2006, 02:49:49 PM
i totally agree, once you try a true volume workout over hours with millions of sets and reps you cant help but laugh at those who think their 5x5 workouts are 'intense' LOL
little do they know that after those 5 sets they could still do another 30 minutes of lifting in all honesty.
i also have to send out another 'LOL' at those who consider their weightlifting 'sufficient cardio' LOL

Mike Mentzer and others that follow HIT might disagree with you

Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 09, 2006, 02:53:49 PM
Mike Mentzer and others that follow HIT might disagree with you



those guys can give all they want for 5 sets of 5, but the fact is the human body is capable of enduring ALOT more than that, of course your last 5 sets of you 60 set workout you may not be using as much weight but you are still going to failure and its still a fuckin challenge.

you cant honestly beleive that 5sets of 5 at 100 % intensity is equal to 60 sets of 5 starting out with 100% intensity down to 80% even remotly compares to a low volume workout bro! you cant compare!
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: figgs on December 09, 2006, 02:56:35 PM
It sounds like the only real challenges with this type of routine is to catch a day with a free schedule and to accept and endure the detrimental effects of overtraining.

I'm not convinced. Have any new pics to be compared with the Mr. GB pics?
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: figgs on December 09, 2006, 02:57:19 PM
Mike Mentzer and others that follow HIT might disagree with you



LOL I'm on it already.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: affy on December 09, 2006, 02:59:00 PM
upload a video man

im sure everyone would be interested.  You definitely have the potential to be a top pro at the IFPA, or NGA.  Honestly im still doubting you can achieve the development you have with the crazy volume you talk about, so video proof would shut alot of people up.

by the way...just quickly jot down you normal workout split
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 09, 2006, 02:59:18 PM
another example lets say i do pullups HIT style

5 sets 10-20reps or whatever HIT style giving it all i got... will give you neglegeble results if anything to an advanced trainer

now lets do a 60 set workout starting out in HIT style giving it all you got now lets say after 5 sets you are only getting about 6-10 reps. you are still doing about 50 TIMES the workout you would doing HIT!!!!


50 Times!!!!!!! but who the fuck wants to do 60 sets of pullups ? maybe if you want to be the best you will do 100 sets?
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: affy on December 09, 2006, 03:03:46 PM
What about overtraining?

well according to highvolume trainers

overtraining=overrated

if daddywaddy isn't bullshitting us...then i guess it is over rated looking at his amazing development
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 09, 2006, 03:05:26 PM
another example lets say i do pullups HIT style

5 sets 10-20reps or whatever HIT style giving it all i got... will give you neglegeble results if anything to an advanced trainer

now lets do a 60 set workout starting out in HIT style giving it all you got now lets say after 5 sets you are only getting about 6-10 reps. you are still doing about 50 TIMES the workout you would doing HIT!!!!


50 Times!!!!!!! but who the f**k wants to do 60 sets of pullups ? maybe if you want to be the best you will do 100 sets?

you see poundage or reps will go down when you approach 60 or 100 sets but you are still GIVING IT ALL U GOT! that is the premise behind HIT "GIVING IT ALL U GOT" on everyset when you are fatigued, i prefer to eat also during these workouts. ive never done a 100 set workout for one bodypart though. i recently got into the 60 set stuff. but have always done hight volume around 30 on average-40 sets
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on December 09, 2006, 03:06:06 PM
Mike Mentzer and others that follow HIT might disagree with you


that will work for a dude with great genetics WHO JUICES HEAVILY. for nattys, its not so effective.
i had this revelation a while back, i had just done my 50 pullups after a run. i usually went to 50 in 3-4 sets and feel like im done. but then that day i thought, 'why dont i just do more?' so i kept doing set after set and lo and behold i ended up doing 120 pullups and literally could not pull myself up anymore. ive been doing  the same thing with other lifts.

many guys get complacent doing your usual routines, not even realizing how much more you are capable of putting into it.

try it with dips, do as many as you can in one set, for as many sets as possible till you are physically incapable of lifting yourself anymore. dont limit yourslef to '10 reps' or '5 sets' or anything. alot of you will surprise yourselves

Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 09, 2006, 03:08:19 PM
well according to highvolume trainers

overtraining=overrated

if daddywaddy isn't bullshitting us...then i guess it is over rated looking at his amazing development

you think i waste my time bullshitting u guys? shure i may have joked and bullshitted about things eating icecream and pizza all the time yes of course u can eat that and be cut, but to keep your bodyfat in check and eat those foods you have to do a fuckload of working out.


you will soon see on my dvd how to really train
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: figgs on December 09, 2006, 03:09:29 PM
those guys can give all they want for 5 sets of 5, but the fact is the human body is capable of enduring ALOT more than that, of course your last 5 sets of you 60 set workout you may not be using as much weight but you are still going to failure and its still a fuckin challenge.

you cant honestly beleive that 5sets of 5 at 100 % intensity is equal to 60 sets of 5 starting out with 100% intensity down to 80% even remotly compares to a low volume workout bro! you cant compare!

Sure, the human body is capable of dragging out a workout for a huge duration, but the fact is our goal is to build muscle. And our muscles only require a short amount of time resisting against intense muscular contractions before the growth process is activated.

While weight training for the hopes of being rewarded with optimal increases in muscle mass, more is not better; less is not better; the precise amount required is best.

Compare the stress of exercise to other forms of stress. For example, the stress of friction or sun exposure on skin. A precise amount of time is required before good effects (overcompensation) of this form of stress are experienced, from the development of calluses to a nice tan. But too much exposure and the bad effects (decompensation) are experienced, such as depletion, blisters and burns from the sun and blisters and loss of tissue from friction.

Now compare to exercise. The precise amount of exercise (overcompensation) and you experience gains in mass and strength. Too much exercise stress (decompensation) and you lose mass and strength.

I've overtrained and lost progress from overtraining with 15-20 sets before and 60 is something I wouldn't even dream of trying.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 09, 2006, 03:10:09 PM
that will work for a dude with great genetics WHO JUICES HEAVILY. for nattys, its not so effective.
i had this revelation a while back, i had just done my 50 pullups after a run. i usually went to 50 in 3-4 sets and feel like im done. but then that day i thought, 'why dont i just do more?' so i kept doing set after set and lo and behold i ended up doing 120 pullups and literally could not pull myself up anymore. ive been doing  the same thing with other lifts.

many guys get complacent doing your usual routines, not even realizing how much more you are capable of putting into it.

try it with dips, do as many as you can in one set, for as many sets as possible till you are physically incapable of lifting yourself anymore. dont limit yourslef to '10 reps' or '5 sets' or anything. alot of you will surprise yourselves



i totally agree. if your going to set limits , make the limits seem inhuman , and you never know you may acheive something inhuman like 100 sets of pullups!
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 09, 2006, 03:13:52 PM
Sure, the human body is capable of dragging out a workout for a huge duration, but the fact is our goal is to build muscle. And our muscles only require a short amount of time resisting against intense muscular contractions before the growth process is activated.

While weight training for the hopes of being rewarded with optimal increases in muscle mass, more is not better; less is not better; the precise amount required is best.

Compare the stress of exercise to other forms of stress. For example, the stress of friction or sun exposure on skin. A precise amount of time is required before good effects (overcompensation) of this form of stress are experienced, from the development of calluses to a nice tan. But too much exposure and the bad effects (decompensation) are experienced, such as depletion, blisters and burns from the sun and blisters and loss of tissue from friction.

Now compare to exercise. The precise amount of exercise (overcompensation) and you experience gains in mass and strength. Too much exercise stress (decompensation) and you lose mass and strength.

I've overtrained and lost progress from overtraining with 15-20 sets before and 60 is something I wouldn't even dream of trying.

by your analagy then i would be shrinked up to nothing by the way i workout. you dont make sense bro, you are only what 19? and have been training what 2 years maybe 5 years? Im 25 been training 11 years alot of time wasted doing normal workout routines, many years down the tube that i couldve made real progress REALLY pushing myself to do more and more sets and reps. you will learn for yourself one day or maybe you wont learn if you have a closed mind bro
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Stubborn on December 09, 2006, 03:16:28 PM
If you can achieve good results from any given training protocol then why would you try this? It makes no sense other than to prove to yourself that you can do 60 sets. If it works for you then great! If other people can get the same results without all the workload then why try to shove this down their throat as if it is "superior?"
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 09, 2006, 03:26:07 PM
If you can achieve good results from any given training protocol then why would you try this? It makes no sense other than to prove to yourself that you can do 60 sets. If it works for you then great! If other people can get the same results without all the workload then why try to shove this down their throat as if it is "superior?"

i dont progress doing 20-30 sets because i was used to doing that for many years
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on December 09, 2006, 03:26:18 PM
HIT, low rep/low sets/heavy weight workouts are necessary for STRENGTH. for sheer strength, like for PL'ers, low reps near max weigth is the way to go.
BUT, for appearance purposes, volume is the way to go to achieve a complete physique with full muscle volume and leaness/cuts, for staying in shape and looking awesome.

Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Stubborn on December 09, 2006, 03:30:05 PM
i dont progress doing 20-30 sets because i was used to doing that for many years
Glad it works for you.


So you started working out @ 14? You are 6 foot what? And you weight 220 or so?
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Vince B on December 09, 2006, 03:33:24 PM
How many sets is optimal for growth? How many sets are required for maximum growth in any one day? Those two questions may not be the same. I have concluded that big muscles are good for endurance lifting of reasonably heavy resistance. I believe high intensity training is not correct in theory. You can make gains using it for a while but cannot sustain growth over years. The one common thing that all big guys do re training is lots of sets with heavy weights.

The experiment done with fowl suggest that continuous tension for long periods of time per day leads to rapid hypertrophy. That sort of protocol is not practical for humans but it might be that many, many sets are required to stimulate the maximum growth that is possible each day. The trick is to keep that maximum growth occurring each workout. That is what no one has been able to achieve for any length of time. If they could they might be able to start with 16 inch arms and put on perhaps 2 inches in about one month. Those who claim they are getting good results should keep track of their gains and write about them after they have built up some impressive size.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: beatmaster on December 09, 2006, 03:33:30 PM
is that the video that TA was talking about, with you?
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: ManBearPig... on December 09, 2006, 03:34:24 PM
Glad it works for you.


So you started working out @ 14? You are 6 foot what? And you weight 220 or so?

and looks better than you?
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Stubborn on December 09, 2006, 03:43:01 PM
and looks better than you?
Absolutely. Dont know if I will go back to BBing ever again? Probably not.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: The Squadfather on December 09, 2006, 03:44:02 PM
after seeing this rhino guy lift and all the other lame bodybuilding videos who act like they are completely wasted after 5 sets of back or chest or whatever i think i need to help all who have been brainwashed by these weak ass training methods by drug users.


youtube i beleive uploads up to a maximum 100mb so thats around 18-20 minutes of footage and i can only get in about 40 sets during that time , even that is nothing. I routinely can bust out 60 sets of squats , curls , rows, bench presses, pushups, hanging leg lifts, close grip benches ect...i am disgusted at these stupid bitch workouts!
if you're honestly doing this  you are a machine, even if it's squatting 185, 60 sets is inhuman.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: ManBearPig... on December 09, 2006, 03:44:14 PM
Absolutely. Dont know if I will go back to BBing ever again? Probably not.

hell, i'm yet to join a gym.  for the last5 years or so i've just been gathering info.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Stubborn on December 09, 2006, 03:45:57 PM
hell, i'm yet to join a gym.  for the last5 years or so i've just been gathering info.
Are you serious?
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: tweeter on December 09, 2006, 03:46:12 PM
Serge Nubret worked out 7 days a week and up often three times a day.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Stubborn on December 09, 2006, 03:47:27 PM
if you're honestly doing this  you are a machine, even if it's squatting 185, 60 sets is inhuman.
Definately. But would it work for you?
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: The Squadfather on December 09, 2006, 03:52:00 PM
Definately. But would it work for you?
hell no, even if you finished it you wouldn't be able to move the day after.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Stubborn on December 09, 2006, 03:54:20 PM
I still want to see this vid though. Not sure how you will make the entire 60 sets entertaining though? Oh yeah, Adonis' commentary. ::)
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: ManBearPig... on December 09, 2006, 03:54:44 PM
Are you serious?

this is the internet; i take the internet very seriously.

look at my avatar.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Stubborn on December 09, 2006, 03:58:14 PM
this is the internet; i take the internet very seriously.

look at my avatar.
Thought that was you. Based upon that it would be perfectly reasonable to think you never been in a gym. ;D
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Bluto on December 09, 2006, 04:00:07 PM
daddywaddy is right. stop training like girly men!
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Delusional Liberal on December 09, 2006, 04:05:36 PM
HIT is gay as the day is long.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: drop set on December 09, 2006, 04:14:23 PM
this would probably be fine if your loaded and dont need to work so you could train 3hrs eat 8000 quality calories,sleep 12 hours and shoot 1g of test an 16iu gh each day and dont mind lifting 60% or less of your max poudages
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: rs3000 on December 09, 2006, 04:26:36 PM
after seeing this rhino guy lift and all the other lame bodybuilding videos who act like they are completely wasted after 5 sets of back or chest or whatever i think i need to help all who have been brainwashed by these weak ass training methods by drug users.


youtube i beleive uploads up to a maximum 100mb so thats around 18-20 minutes of footage and i can only get in about 40 sets during that time , even that is nothing. I routinely can bust out 60 sets of squats , curls , rows, bench presses, pushups, hanging leg lifts, close grip benches ect...i am disgusted at these stupid bitch workouts!

A training program that does not consider recovery is incomplete.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: figgs on December 09, 2006, 06:29:08 PM
A training program that does not consider recovery is incomplete.

That just about sums it up.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: chris_mason on December 09, 2006, 06:47:30 PM
Daddy, you have a nice physique.  You are lean with decent muscle size.  If your methods are so inhuman why are your results not better than that of many other bodybuilders?

Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: The Squadfather on December 09, 2006, 06:56:26 PM
Daddy, you have a nice physique.  You are lean with decent muscle size.  If your methods are so inhuman why are your results not better than that of many other bodybuilders?


he's built better than you.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: chris_mason on December 09, 2006, 07:07:03 PM
he's built better than you.

I agree, he has a leaner physique that me.  He is also weaker, another by-product of correct training.  What is your point?
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: The Squadfather on December 09, 2006, 07:08:15 PM
I agree, he has a leaner physique that me.  He is also weaker, another by-product of correct training.  What is your point?
he's also bigger than you but you're probably stronger, what does that tell you?
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: chris_mason on December 09, 2006, 07:18:43 PM
he's also bigger than you but you're probably stronger, what does that tell you?

How have you made the determination he is "bigger" than me?  He is taller by several inches (he claims to be 6'5" or 6'6") but only outweighs me by 15-20 lbs.  He is leaner, but with a 6" height differential if he were "bigger" than me he should outweigh me by considerably more.

As to my being stronger I would say that means his 60 sets have not helped him as much as he might purport. ;D
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on December 09, 2006, 07:56:16 PM
Daddy, you have a nice physique.  You are lean with decent muscle size.  If your methods are so inhuman why are your results not better than that of many other bodybuilders?


maybe cause they are juiced to the gills?
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: TheEgoCrusher on December 09, 2006, 11:33:07 PM
Hit 135 for 25 as a warm up, 225 for 20, 315 for 15, 405 for 8, 455 for 5 and THEN a drop-set of 225 for 10 with 1 MINUTE rest between each set for 15 SETS....225 for 10, rack it, look at the clock and be back under the weight 1 minute later for another 10 reps.  Do that 15 times after the heavy working sets and then come talk to me.

BTW, you'd pass out after about the 3rd drop set because you're not in the shape I am, but not many people are.  And that's just the beginning of a leg workout.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: chris_mason on December 10, 2006, 05:23:16 AM
maybe cause they are juiced to the gills?

a) We only have Daddy's word that he is drug-free. 

b) He claims his methods are so incredible, why wouldn't they give him results similar to those of drug users on "lesser"routines?

Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: The Squadfather on December 10, 2006, 07:36:19 AM
Hit 135 for 25 as a warm up, 225 for 20, 315 for 15, 405 for 8, 455 for 5 and THEN a drop-set of 225 for 10 with 1 MINUTE rest between each set for 15 SETS....225 for 10, rack it, look at the clock and be back under the weight 1 minute later for another 10 reps.  Do that 15 times after the heavy working sets and then come talk to me.

BTW, you'd pass out after about the 3rd drop set because you're not in the shape I am, but not many people are.  And that's just the beginning of a leg workout.
hahahaha, ok "egocrusher". ::)
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: finurface on December 10, 2006, 07:56:50 AM
a) We only have Daddy's word that he is drug-free. 

b) He claims his methods are so incredible, why wouldn't they give him results similar to those of drug users on "lesser"routines?


come on, if you cant tell from a natural and a juiced bber...please.

daddywaddy is obviously natural, if you cant see it i feel sorry for you.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: TheEgoCrusher on December 10, 2006, 08:39:01 AM
hahahaha, ok "egocrusher". ::)

I do that once a month, squad.  You should try it sometime.  I doubt you're in good enough shape to do it, however.  If fact, I doubt just about anyone on here is with the exception of a few people.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: The Squadfather on December 10, 2006, 08:40:27 AM
I do that once a month, squad.  You should try it sometime.  I doubt you're in good enough shape to do it, however.  If fact, I doubt just about anyone on here is with the exception of a few people.
i know, i mean i don't think i've ever seen ANYONE squat 455 for 5. ::)
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: SteelePegasus on December 10, 2006, 08:47:02 AM
Hit 135 for 25 as a warm up, 225 for 20, 315 for 15, 405 for 8, 455 for 5 and THEN a drop-set of 225 for 10 with 1 MINUTE rest between each set for 15 SETS....225 for 10, rack it, look at the clock and be back under the weight 1 minute later for another 10 reps.  Do that 15 times after the heavy working sets and then come talk to me.

BTW, you'd pass out after about the 3rd drop set because you're not in the shape I am, but not many people are.  And that's just the beginning of a leg workout.

I was impressed until you mentioned that were you doing legs...killer chest routine
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: dammitman on December 10, 2006, 06:06:03 PM
DW, I'm interested in hearing more....preach on, bro. 
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 11, 2006, 03:06:51 PM
DW, I'm interested in hearing more....preach on, bro. 

right now im getting ripped 1 hour of cardio a day low calories under 1000-1500, i burn around 2000-2200 calories when i do cardio because i do intervals on the stairmaster on the highest level or sprints on the treadmill with incline set on the highest level holding with one hand so i dont fall off... so basically im netting zero calories to lose fat fast , ive done it before but lost motivation, ive got newfound motivation now. its hard to muster the energy to lift after intense cardio like that so i have cut back on lifting and made the cardio the priority because losing fat is more important to me than anything right now and i want to do it fast. i screwed up last week so im back to square one today i weighed 235 i plan to lose 3 pounds a day so thats 2 pounds water one pound fat since the body is about 75% water. if i keep this up and dont smoke any weed for the munchies i can drop 30 pounds in ten days, its brutal but i can do it. i  may do another cardio tonite for 30min to an hour but im not sure if i have the drive. now if i did 2 hours of cardio a day with the same diet i would lose 6 pounds a day probably 4 from water and 2 from fat perhaps
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Bast000 on December 11, 2006, 03:08:17 PM
wiggeraddy, you should be careful not to injure yourself.

i have to limit my sets or else i will get bad tendinitis.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Hedgehog on December 11, 2006, 03:11:34 PM
right now im getting ripped 1 hour of cardio a day low calories under 1000-1500, i burn around 2000-2200 calories when i do cardio because i do intervals on the stairmaster on the highest level or sprints on the treadmill with incline set on the highest level holding with one hand so i dont fall off... so basically im netting zero calories to lose fat fast , ive done it before but lost motivation, ive got newfound motivation now. its hard to muster the energy to lift after intense cardio like that so i have cut back on lifting and made the cardio the priority because losing fat is more important to me than anything right now and i want to do it fast. i screwed up last week so im back to square one today i weighed 235 i plan to lose 3 pounds a day so thats 2 pounds water one pound fat since the body is about 75% water. if i keep this up and dont smoke any weed for the munchies i can drop 30 pounds in ten days, its brutal but i can do it. i  may do another cardio tonite for 30min to an hour but im not sure if i have the drive. now if i did 2 hours of cardio a day with the same diet i would lose 6 pounds a day probably 4 from water and 2 from fat perhaps

You were doing (relatively) fine.


Then you had to resort to old the old bullshitting of past.

What's up with that? There are actually people interested in how you train and diet.

Why? Because you have a great physique.

Answer this:

Why do you have to purposedly fool people on how you train and diet?

-Hedge
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Bast000 on December 11, 2006, 03:24:46 PM
You were doing (relatively) fine.


Then you had to resort to old the old bullshitting of past.

What's up with that? There are actually people interested in how you train and diet.

Why? Because you have a great physique.

Answer this:

Why do you have to purposedly fool people on how you train and diet?

-Hedge

he's a decent dude, he's always encouraging me.  he's not trying to fuck anyone up.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 11, 2006, 04:14:45 PM
You were doing (relatively) fine.


Then you had to resort to old the old bullshitting of past.

What's up with that? There are actually people interested in how you train and diet.

Why? Because you have a great physique.

Answer this:

Why do you have to purposedly fool people on how you train and diet?

-Hedge

dude what is so hard to beleive about my diet and training? hell im 6feet6 235 hell at that height and weight that sounds pathetic right, but what you see is what you get. i do an hour of cardio, whats so amazing about that? im pretty sure the calorie count is right because i have the machine on the highest level and i soak through 2 tanktops meaning i have to change shirts 30 minutes into it because its completley wet , so i must be burning a ton. 1000-1500 calories is very low and yes much of those calories is from fiber one cereal and icecream. so if you do the math it is very possible to lose 3 pounds a day 2 parts water 1 part fat. no im not doing 60 sets of weightlifting right now i dont have the energy for that


ive never bullshitted anyone when it comes to real advice though, i do have my beleifs about training as far fetched as they may sound to a protienaholic. those supps never did shit for me, but fat and carbs worked just fine so did creatine
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 11, 2006, 04:17:12 PM
wiggeraddy, you should be careful not to injure yourself.

i have to limit my sets or else i will get bad tendinitis.

my main probably is getting severe cramps when dieting with lots of cardio. taking potassium doesnt seem to help i probably need a shit ton of it probably i do take calcium and magnesium to try to aleviate cramping. my mind is out doing my body these days wich aint a bad thing
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: drop set on December 11, 2006, 04:27:34 PM
right now im getting ripped 1 hour of cardio a day low calories under 1000-1500, i burn around 2000-2200 calories when i do cardio because i do intervals on the stairmaster on the highest level or sprints on the treadmill with incline set on the highest level holding with one hand so i dont fall off... so basically im netting zero calories to lose fat fast , ive done it before but lost motivation, ive got newfound motivation now. its hard to muster the energy to lift after intense cardio like that so i have cut back on lifting and made the cardio the priority because losing fat is more important to me than anything right now and i want to do it fast. i screwed up last week so im back to square one today i weighed 235 i plan to lose 3 pounds a day so thats 2 pounds water one pound fat since the body is about 75% water. if i keep this up and dont smoke any weed for the munchies i can drop 30 pounds in ten days, its brutal but i can do it. i  may do another cardio tonite for 30min to an hour but im not sure if i have the drive. now if i did 2 hours of cardio a day with the same diet i would lose 6 pounds a day probably 4 from water and 2 from fat perhaps
if these claims were true,you would have to be one fat bastard to start with.you would be in a permanent catabolic state,your body would be burning whatever it could to survive including muscle,water is not a fuel it contains no calories.you should be consuming at least 3 litres of water a day,this would replenish your 2 pounds of water per day loss,if you lost 2 pounds of water per day that would be 14lbs in a week,your muscles would have cramped,you would probablly have had a heart attack and died.therefore you 3lb per day loss would be more like 2lb fat 1lb muscle.i may be wrong but i think thats bout 12000 calories.you would have to fight a lion for 4 hours to do that.are you sure you werent smokin your weed when you wrote this ridiclous shite
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 11, 2006, 04:38:38 PM
if these claims were true,you would have to be one fat bastard to start with.you would be in a permanent catabolic state,your body would be burning whatever it could to survive including muscle,water is not a fuel it contains no calories.you should be consuming at least 3 litres of water a day,this would replenish your 2 pounds of water per day loss,if you lost 2 pounds of water per day that would be 14lbs in a week,your muscles would have cramped,you would probablly have had a heart attack and died.therefore you 3lb per day loss would be more like 2lb fat 1lb muscle.i may be wrong but i think thats bout 12000 calories.you would have to fight a lion for 4 hours to do that.are you sure you werent smokin your weed when you wrote this ridiclous shite

um im drinking water dude lol 1 pound of fat is what 3000 or 3600 calories? i fogot which it is but anyways im 235 so i dont know my metabolic rate is what like 3000-3500 calories? sedentary? if im only getting in 1000-1500 calories burning 2200 or so maybe more or less, im at or around zero calories for the day which would mean 1 pound of fatloss or so because i lost 3500 calories. and no you dont lose muscle if you workout to stimulate growth. they only atrophy if you dont use your muscles. beleive what you want i dont care at all , i know that my physique will be incredible in a few weeks or less of dieting,
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 11, 2006, 04:41:35 PM
people fail to understand something critical when it comes to fat loss and fat gain

you can put on fat as quickly as you can lose it

if i did nothing and ate 8,000 calories a day lets say my maintenance is 2000 calories, i would easily put on 2 pounds of fat a day

lets say i have the work ethic to do 3 hours of cardio a day burning lets say 3500 calories only eating 1000 caloriesi would lose about a pound and a half of fat a day
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 11, 2006, 04:44:01 PM
by the way these are intervals/sprints which stimulate a shitload of growth, my legs have actually grown from this .

Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: drop set on December 11, 2006, 04:53:52 PM
um im drinking water dude lol 1 pound of fat is what 3000 or 3600 calories? i fogot which it is but anyways im 235 so i dont know my metabolic rate is what like 3000-3500 calories? sedentary? if im only getting in 1000-1500 calories burning 2200 or so maybe more or less, im at or around zero calories for the day which would mean 1 pound of fatloss or so because i lost 3500 calories. and no you dont lose muscle if you workout to stimulate growth. they only atrophy if you dont use your muscles. beleive what you want i dont care at all , i know that my physique will be incredible in a few weeks or less of dieting,
are you f**kin mad?think you should quit the dope an aim to get enough calories in so yor brain can function.you WILL lose muscle mass.most competeters diet between 12-16 weeks,thats for a reason.to gradually lose fat while maintaining muscle mass.maybe you are a new breed of mutated genetic freak whose body works differently to everyone else or maybe your just a nob who read a few books.didnt fully understand what was said so just made it up.im dying to see your before/after pics an stats,you make adonis and alexxx look like einstein
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: drop set on December 11, 2006, 04:58:16 PM
by the way these are intervals/sprints which stimulate a shitload of growth, my legs have actually grown from this .


shows how f**kin hard you train if your legs have grown through cardio while dieting
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 11, 2006, 05:08:56 PM
shows how f**kin hard you train if your legs have grown through cardio while dieting

why would they not grow if im doing sprints/intervals to muscular failure? hitting failure sends a growth signal.  which adds up if you do alot overtime then its some noticible growth
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 11, 2006, 05:10:58 PM
are you f**kin mad?think you should quit the dope an aim to get enough calories in so yor brain can function.you WILL lose muscle mass.most competeters diet between 12-16 weeks,thats for a reason.to gradually lose fat while maintaining muscle mass.maybe you are a new breed of mutated genetic freak whose body works differently to everyone else or maybe your just a nob who read a few books.didnt fully understand what was said so just made it up.im dying to see your before/after pics an stats,you make adonis and alexxx look like einstein


i am no freak as far as genetics, but unlike most i dont set limits on how long i workout or how hard i diet. but talk is cheap, ill have pics when im 6feet6 210 shredded and huge
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: G on December 11, 2006, 05:19:05 PM
Dude, doing more than 5-8 sets per bodypart is a waste of time and energy and you will actually gain less if you do more than 10 sets.If you can do more than 2 heavy sets for a certain excersice you are doing something wrong! For example lets look at  bench presses - 85% , 5-7 reps, followed by 2-3 forced reps,   approx. 3mins rest  2nd set - 85%, 4-6 reps, 2-3 forced.If you do that right - there will be no fucking way you can do a 3rd set for more than 3 reps.If you are able to do 60 set you tarin at a very low intesity for sure.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: drop set on December 11, 2006, 05:22:42 PM
why would they not grow if im doing sprints/intervals to muscular failure? hitting failure sends a growth signal.  which adds up if you do alot overtime then its some noticible growth
HAVE YOU EVER,EVER READ THAT A PRO USES SPRINTS TO STIMULATE THEIR LEGS TO NEW GROWTH,man lay off that dope ,it f**ks with you mind
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 11, 2006, 05:26:21 PM
lol i give up trying to argue with newbs
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Cap on December 11, 2006, 05:27:46 PM
HAVE YOU EVER,EVER READ THAT A PRO USES SPRINTS TO STIMULATE THEIR LEGS TO NEW GROWTH,man lay off that dope ,it f**ks with you mind
Cory Everson, FLEX magazine, gaining hamstring mass.  Oh yeah and have you seen a 100m sprinter's legs?
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 11, 2006, 05:29:13 PM
HAVE YOU EVER,EVER READ THAT A PRO USES SPRINTS TO STIMULATE THEIR LEGS TO NEW GROWTH,man lay off that dope ,it f**ks with you mind

LOL at "PROS"
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: G on December 11, 2006, 05:37:21 PM
lol i give up trying to argue with newbs

dude, you are such an idiot.You have absolutely no knowledge for weightlifting, and all you have you owe to your genethics!BTW - you have a nice body ......for a high school swimmer! ;D
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Cap on December 11, 2006, 05:43:41 PM
dude, you are such an idiot.You have absolutely no knowledge for weightlifting, and all you have you owe to your genethics!BTW - you have a nice body ......for a high school swimmer! ;D
What's funny is that most girls like swimmer bodies over many that would be on here or on a pro stage.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Vince B on December 11, 2006, 05:51:15 PM
There is a science of bodybuilding but it has not surfaced in this thread.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Tony23 on December 11, 2006, 05:52:32 PM
after seeing this rhino guy lift and all the other lame bodybuilding videos who act like they are completely wasted after 5 sets of back or chest or whatever i think i need to help all who have been brainwashed by these weak ass training methods by drug users.


youtube i beleive uploads up to a maximum 100mb so thats around 18-20 minutes of footage and i can only get in about 40 sets during that time , even that is nothing. I routinely can bust out 60 sets of squats , curls , rows, bench presses, pushups, hanging leg lifts, close grip benches ect...i am disgusted at these stupid bitch workouts!

Wow DaddyWaddy, you are the MAN!!!  Dude, if you are pushin 60 sets you might as well be walking on a treadmill with your level of effort.  If you are pushing weight and really taxing yourself, you will not be pushing 60 sets.  There is a 50 year old woman at my gym who needs someone to train with her and assist in cardio.  That seems about your speed.

The worst part about your post is that you have to call out and put down others while making yourself look weak and foolish.  It takes alot to get me to post on here but your ignorance is "alot".  Wow.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: chris_mason on December 11, 2006, 06:40:51 PM

i am no freak as far as genetics, but unlike most i dont set limits on how long i workout or how hard i diet. but talk is cheap, ill have pics when im 6feet6 210 shredded and huge

210 lbs, shredded or not, at 6'6" is NOT huge.

Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: carvedoutofwood on December 11, 2006, 06:54:56 PM
the idea of a 60 set workout, especially on a consistent bases seem infinity stupid to me… to argue that the more sets you do the better BB you are is equally retarded…

you’ve got a sick look going on DW, but your theory is flawed…

the idea of BB IMO is to reach the highest level of intensity with nearly the lowest number of reps/sets as possible…

essentially, in order to bodyBUILD you really need to limit your time in the gym  to avoid burning excess calories/muscle and to allow your body to repair itself in a way that would be condusive to BUILDing muscle mass…

for me,a natural ectomorph, by decreasing my number of sets/ ie time in the gym i have been able gain more muscle then ever b4...

obviously everyone is very different, and matabolic rate has soooo much to do with the # of sets thats right for you... but i dont believe that doing 60 sets to failure is any tougher...
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 11, 2006, 08:24:22 PM
you guys are agruing with the master of weightlifting. in a few weeks you will 'still' be arguing with the supreme shredded master of weightlifting. i guess you will never learn while my physique leaps many galaxies ahead ???
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Cap on December 11, 2006, 08:26:27 PM
the idea of a 60 set workout, especially on a consistent bases seem infinity stupid to me… to argue that the more sets you do the better BB you are is equally retarded…

you’ve got a sick look going on DW, but your theory is flawed…

the idea of BB IMO is to reach the highest level of intensity with nearly the lowest number of reps/sets as possible…

essentially, in order to bodyBUILD you really need to limit your time in the gym  to avoid burning excess calories/muscle and to allow your body to repair itself in a way that would be condusive to BUILDing muscle mass…

for me,a natural ectomorph, by decreasing my number of sets/ ie time in the gym i have been able gain more muscle then ever b4...

obviously everyone is very different, and matabolic rate has soooo much to do with the # of sets thats right for you... but i dont believe that doing 60 sets to failure is any tougher...
Really?  I've always heard that ectomorphs need more sets and respond better to them.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: alexxx on December 11, 2006, 08:29:15 PM
the idea of a 60 set workout, especially on a consistent bases seem infinity stupid to me… to argue that the more sets you do the better BB you are is equally retarded…

you’ve got a sick look going on DW, but your theory is flawed…

the idea of BB IMO is to reach the highest level of intensity with nearly the lowest number of reps/sets as possible…

essentially, in order to bodyBUILD you really need to limit your time in the gym  to avoid burning excess calories/muscle and to allow your body to repair itself in a way that would be condusive to BUILDing muscle mass…

for me,a natural ectomorph, by decreasing my number of sets/ ie time in the gym i have been able gain more muscle then ever b4...

obviously everyone is very different, and matabolic rate has soooo much to do with the # of sets thats right for you... but i dont believe that doing 60 sets to failure is any tougher...


I agree. The reason why he is doing 60 sets is because his penis went numb and he can't get it to rise. So he must get the orgasm by all other means including pumping up around men.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: SteelePegasus on December 11, 2006, 08:32:02 PM
210 lbs, shredded or not, at 6'6" is NOT huge.




Vince Carter

Born: Jan 26, 1977
Height: 6-6 /  1,98
Weight: 220  lbs. / 99,8  kg.
College : North Carolina
Years Pro: 8


http://www.nba.com/playerfile/vince_carter/index.html


Here is another
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/shareef_abdur-rahim/index.html



daddywaddy= typical NBA player, with alot less money
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: carvedoutofwood on December 11, 2006, 08:35:30 PM
Really?  I've always heard that ectomorphs need more sets and respond better to them.

def not.... for example, current pro ecto's... dave henry, and dexter (both notorious for high intensity/ low set training)... flex wheeler is prob the most famous ecto and his trianing was near super lax.... everybody is different but for the most part, if your metabolic rate is super fast, training for long periods of time is only going to hinder your ability to gain muscle...

faster metabolism = less sets + heavier weight for less reps (in comparo to slower metabolism) for muscle gains
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: carvedoutofwood on December 11, 2006, 08:36:24 PM

Vince Carter

Born: Jan 26, 1977
Height: 6-6 /  1,98
Weight: 220  lbs. / 99,8  kg.
College : North Carolina
Years Pro: 8


http://www.nba.com/playerfile/vince_carter/index.html


Here is another
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/shareef_abdur-rahim/index.html



daddywaddy= typical NBA player, with alot less money


wow.... wowow..... epic truth...
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: G on December 11, 2006, 08:41:08 PM
you guys are agruing with the master of weightlifting. in a few weeks you will 'still' be arguing with the supreme shredded master of weightlifting. i guess you will never learn while my physique leaps many galaxies ahead ???
 

 Now , when i'm reading your posts I actually think that you might be dumber even than Adonis and Vince G. I didn't think that anyone can be more delusional and dumber than those two idiots, but you just proved me wrong!
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Cap on December 11, 2006, 08:43:26 PM
def not.... for example, current pro ecto's... dave henry, and dexter (both notorious for high intensity/ low set training)... flex wheeler is prob the most famous ecto and his trianing was near super lax.... everybody is different but for the most part, if your metabolic rate is super fast, training for long periods of time is only going to hinder your ability to gain muscle...

faster metabolism = less sets + heavier weight for less reps (in comparo to slower metabolism) for muscle gains
See it is hard for me to buy into lazy training like Wheeler because he juiced to the max just like Dex and Henry as well.  They can do little training and grow, but I'm not saying you are wrong.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: davie on December 12, 2006, 03:17:44 AM
DADDYWADDY im not gonna come on and tell u ur wrong (even if u train pretty much the exact opposite to me), but i am curious as to why ur dieting right now??

If i was your height i think you would look HUGE and lean at about 260+

Iv never seen u look out of shape in any of ur pics and those werent diet pics, so why dont u get back to the bouffet and fill out ur big frame bro!! And even if i disagree with 60 set workouts, and would never think of trying them myself (iv been lowering volume, not increasing it) if thats what it will take to get u up in weight then do it.

Post pics of u at 260 and lean and all ur haters will dissapear.

davie
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: chris_mason on December 12, 2006, 05:31:31 AM
The more I see his posts in this thread does Daddy not sound just like TA?  I am starting to think he may be a clever gimmick account.  If not, he is just trying to emulate TA's idiotic style.

Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 12, 2006, 05:38:19 AM
DADDYWADDY im not gonna come on and tell u ur wrong (even if u train pretty much the exact opposite to me), but i am curious as to why ur dieting right now??

If i was your height i think you would look HUGE and lean at about 260+

Iv never seen u look out of shape in any of ur pics and those werent diet pics, so why dont u get back to the bouffet and fill out ur big frame bro!! And even if i disagree with 60 set workouts, and would never think of trying them myself (iv been lowering volume, not increasing it) if thats what it will take to get u up in weight then do it.

Post pics of u at 260 and lean and all ur haters will dissapear.

davie

im down to 230 today, i was 235 monday :) 1 hour of cardio and 1300 calories dropped 5 pounds for me!! i was expecting 3...ill keep you guys updated. about 210 i think i will be just right
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: SteelePegasus on December 12, 2006, 05:39:17 AM
The more I see his posts in this thread does Daddy not sound just like TA?  I am starting to think he may be a clever gimmick account.  If not, he is just trying to emulate TA's idiotic style.



Ignorance is a disease that has been known to spread amongst kindred spirits with limited intelligence
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 12, 2006, 05:41:37 AM
i would rather prefer to be shredded year round. once im 210 i will go back to the 60 set routine for my upper body. if you think about if im doing around 100 sets for legs because of my intervals to failure on the stairmaster.

im not true adonis, but like him, it is easy to piss people off without any effort, i guess thats why i am hated, because i am confident in what i do and will not listen to UNEXPERIENCED FOOLS WITH LESSER PHYSIQUES
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Tony23 on December 12, 2006, 05:48:21 AM
You burn 2200 calories during an hour of cardio and you can do 60 sets per bodypart when you train...

The only place you can spout that kind of garbage would be right here on getbig.  Say that outloud in any real gym and get laughed out of the joint.

Lance Armstrong needs an offseason cycling partner but I dont know if he could keep up with you.

 ::)
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 12, 2006, 05:57:50 AM
You burn 2200 calories during an hour of cardio and you can do 60 sets per bodypart when you train...

The only place you can spout that kind of garbage would be right here on getbig.  Say that outloud in any real gym and get laughed out of the joint.

Lance Armstrong needs an offseason cycling partner but I dont know if he could keep up with you.

 ::)

hahahha im holding everyone to this bullshit they say about when i post pics and more video. it will be the most massive owning of all galaxies combined hahahha
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: natural al on December 12, 2006, 06:05:27 AM
Really?  I've always heard that ectomorphs need more sets and respond better to them.

actually you heard wrong.  Ecto's tend to overtrain easily so short very intense workouts will work better.  If very high volume was going to "work" for anybody it might be someone who has more endomorphic tendencies.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Tony23 on December 12, 2006, 06:08:19 AM
hahahha im holding everyone to this bullshit they say about when i post pics and more video. it will be the most massive owning of all galaxies combined hahahha

Everyone on this board is capable of doing a 60 set per bodypart workout.  Its called "cardio".  You arent touching the deep muscle fibers, the "2b" fibers that you need to hit to promote muscle growth.  If anything, your 60 sets will just flatten you out for about a week.  

Why am I even typing this?  Ruin your physique, I have no issues with that.  By looking at your pics you are 6'6 with long muscle bellies and you are trim.  You dont need to be training with Richard Simmons weight for 60 sets, you need to do about 12 and lift some real weight.  Somebody sold you some BS advice along the way and you emptied your wallet buying it.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: SteelePegasus on December 12, 2006, 06:11:56 AM
There is a science of bodybuilding but it has not surfaced in this thread.

Vince, science is only good and can only be applied when it is understood. Clearly daddywaddy opted for the "ignore science" route, and jumped into the pool blindly.

But hey, let see how this plays out. He has yet to step on a real stage.

and worse yet, he placed very low in a online cyber contest
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: davie on December 12, 2006, 07:21:33 AM
Daddywaddy, i hear what ur saying, u have a desire right now to look shredded and ur target is 210. thats fine but at 6'6 bro u arent gonna look huge mate, i think you would look huge and cut at ur height at about 260 bro, and like i said, even if i dont exactly agree with ur training philosophies, i do admire a good work ethinc, and if u bust ur ass i think u could get up past 260 and then look to cut.

Yes ur gonna look defined and ripped etc at 210 but u know ur gonna get flamed on by people who say u look skinny b/c of ur height.

Training wise im following more of HIT these days, and increasing the weight i lift at every workout (if i can) but good luck to u in 60 set workouts mate.

davie
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: 2HUGE4U on December 12, 2006, 07:37:56 AM
ok, to keep it simple...

one name: Dorian Yates

1+1=2
2+2=4...
see a pattern here?
simple huh, ok if you understand the above, please read on..

the man trained 3 to 4 hours a week...... not a day

now, what the defenition of intensity?? look it up...

it has something to do with ehhhm time... and ehmmmm poundage (in this case cause we all wont want the big thingies on our arms)

give it a thought when you look around and all you see is them dummies goiing trough the motions for hours and hours... and look the same year after year....

start thinking
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: The Squadfather on December 12, 2006, 07:39:40 AM
ok, to keep it simple...

one name: Dorian Yates

1+1=2
2+2=4...
see a pattern here?
simple huh, ok if you understand the above, please read on..

the man trained 3 to 4 hours a week...... not a day

now, what the defenition of intensity?? look it up...

it has something to do with ehhhm time... and ehmmmm poundage (in this case cause we all wont want the big thingies on our arms)

give it a thought when you look around and all you see is them dummies goiing trough the motions for hours and hours... and look the same year after year....

start thinking
hahahaha, ok "2huge4u". ::)
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Dingleberry on December 12, 2006, 07:43:44 AM
  When people first start to work out, and are still girly men waiting for their nuts to drop from their stomach, they can workout for hours on end because there is only so much muscle to be damaged; therefore the body has less work to do to repair itself. Things change when you start putting on a lot of size, and the body has a lot more repairing to do.
  Years ago, I would work out for 2 hours, 5-6 days a week. Now, I only need about a 45 min heavy duty workout 3-4 times a week to achieve the same results. Any more than that, and my recovery takes forever and I won't make the same gains.
   Naturally, age has a lot to do with this equation, as well as what kind of “supplements” you take, but overall, the bigger you are, the less you need.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 12, 2006, 11:59:11 AM
doing pushups or elevated pushups isnt necessarily 'richard simmons weight'

neither is chins or pullups for an hour

neither is hanging leg lifts with out straps or elbow pads for abs

neither is doing intervals/sprints to failure


no wonder there is so many shitty physiques and people turning to roids. 
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Tony23 on December 12, 2006, 12:11:59 PM
doing pushups or elevated pushups isnt necessarily 'richard simmons weight'

neither is chins or pullups for an hour

neither is hanging leg lifts with out straps or elbow pads for abs

neither is doing intervals/sprints to failure


no wonder there is so many shitty physiques and people turning to roids. 

Yeah, youre right.  All of us that lift more than bodyweight must be on gear.  YOu set me straight, your 60 sets didnt involve using Richard Simmons weight.  I was talking out of my ass when I said that.  You have clarified for me that you in fact dont even use weights at all.

I take it back, you can do 60 sets if you do it that way. 
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 12, 2006, 12:26:28 PM
Yeah, youre right.  All of us that lift more than bodyweight must be on gear.  YOu set me straight, your 60 sets didnt involve using Richard Simmons weight.  I was talking out of my ass when I said that.  You have clarified for me that you in fact dont even use weights at all.

I take it back, you can do 60 sets if you do it that way. 


quit being so ignorant...elevated pushups are probably around 80 percent of bodyweight.. for me im guessin that about 190 pounds. so i think that isnt a bad weight at all. i doubt you could do it. any fat boy with some lifting experience can put up 300 pounds for a few sets big deal
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Tony23 on December 12, 2006, 01:08:00 PM

quit being so ignorant...elevated pushups are probably around 80 percent of bodyweight.. for me im guessin that about 190 pounds. so i think that isnt a bad weight at all. i doubt you could do it. any fat boy with some lifting experience can put up 300 pounds for a few sets big deal

Never seen a picture of me and you say "I doubt you could do it".  That explains in one sentence why I have been on your case about this post.  You did the work for me.

Someone truly confident can just come out and say the way it is and not have to put other people or their methods down. 

Your training methods are only cheating yourself.  I just hope no impressionable board member thinks you have some new age, shock the bodybuilding community training methods.  It would just be a shame to see anyone but you waste your time with this.

Today I'll train chest and biceps.  I will warm up with sets of 20 and do working sets from 15 reps down to 6, increasing weight as I go down.  I wont fly around the gym pulling myself up, I wont flop on the ground and push my body weight up either.  I'll use the heaviest weight I can handle, change my angles and explode at the bottom of each rep.

My point is, you do what you do and I'll do what I do.  We will just disagree and let either the girls on the beach or the judges at the bottom of the stage do our talking for us.  I'm down with that.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 12, 2006, 01:43:53 PM
Never seen a picture of me and you say "I doubt you could do it".  That explains in one sentence why I have been on your case about this post.  You did the work for me.

Someone truly confident can just come out and say the way it is and not have to put other people or their methods down. 

Your training methods are only cheating yourself.  I just hope no impressionable board member thinks you have some new age, shock the bodybuilding community training methods.  It would just be a shame to see anyone but you waste your time with this.

Today I'll train chest and biceps.  I will warm up with sets of 20 and do working sets from 15 reps down to 6, increasing weight as I go down.  I wont fly around the gym pulling myself up, I wont flop on the ground and push my body weight up either.  I'll use the heaviest weight I can handle, change my angles and explode at the bottom of each rep.

My point is, you do what you do and I'll do what I do.  We will just disagree and let either the girls on the beach or the judges at the bottom of the stage do our talking for us.  I'm down with that.

lol  ::)
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 12, 2006, 01:44:40 PM
(http://www.strengthtech.com/photos/weightp/me.jpg)
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 12, 2006, 01:46:16 PM
i see you guys straining with heavy weight all the time makes no difference to me how you train. fact is in 2 weeks ill be 4% bodyfat ripped and bigger than all of you :)
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: pobrecito on December 12, 2006, 01:46:54 PM
It's funny...people who usually have to blare out "all natural" on everything are usually the ones using steroids.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Hedgehog on December 12, 2006, 01:51:34 PM
i see you guys straining with heavy weight all the time makes no difference to me how you train. fact is in 2 weeks ill be 4% bodyfat ripped and bigger than all of you :)

Good luck with all that.

If it works for you, great.

Hope you can beat your munchies and stay on your diet too. Good luck with all of that, too.

You sure as hell got a great physique.

-Hedge
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Tony23 on December 12, 2006, 01:54:08 PM
"Taller".  You used the wrong word.

So if I lift heavy and strain, I'm a homo?

I would hand you a shovel but I see you brought your own.  You are 6'6 and 210.  You said that yourself.  You cant say that and then say you are "bigger".  Your facts discredit your opinions.  

Best part is, everytime I think I'm done talking you say something wonderful like "i see you guys straining with heavy weight all the time makes no difference to me how you train. fact is in 2 weeks ill be 4% bodyfat ripped and bigger than all of you" so I have to keep this thread bumped so when people get off work today they can get a laugh.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Tony23 on December 12, 2006, 02:01:14 PM
I'm too lazy to go through the entire thread so keep me honest.

- You do 60 sets with no weight and you call other workouts "bitch workouts".
- 6'6 210 is "bigger" than everyone else.
- You burn 2200 calories in an hour of cardio.

I know I missed somethings.  I want everyone to be clear on your training methods and know how huge you are without having to read all the back and forth.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 12, 2006, 02:05:04 PM
epic double post meltdown


no one cares about your homo routine


Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Tony23 on December 12, 2006, 02:06:09 PM
epic double post meltdown


no one cares about your homo routine




Figured.  Good luck with your pushups.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 12, 2006, 02:07:19 PM
Good luck with all that.

If it works for you, great.

Hope you can beat your munchies and stay on your diet too. Good luck with all of that, too.

You sure as hell got a great physique.

-Hedge

thanks bro, just wait till you see the final product im guessing less that 2 weeks , i will update daily and let you know how much weight is lossed. i think i can beat the munchies though a good beer usually makes me not hungry or a shot of vodka.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: natural al on December 12, 2006, 02:07:59 PM
DW is a big guy.  he's got a ton of potential.  he's also allowed himself to be TA's little buddy and buys into everything he says without question.  he's getting good results with what he does but I would almost bet that 3/4 of this board would never workout like he does.  It's boring and waaaay to time consuming.


epic double post meltdown


no one cares about your homo routine




so now adonis is using DW's account?  either that or all of a sudden you changed your posting style to match TA's almost to the letter.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 12, 2006, 02:18:27 PM
DW is a big guy.  he's got a ton of potential.  he's also allowed himself to be TA's little buddy and buys into everything he says without question.  he's getting good results with what he does but I would almost bet that 3/4 of this board would never workout like he does.  It's boring and waaaay to time consuming.


so now adonis is using DW's account?  either that or all of a sudden you changed your posting style to match TA's almost to the letter.


lol TA is the man, he has earned my respect, he knows the truths and lies, but you my friend get no respect, you are too stupid to have any respect for
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: dawakaman on December 12, 2006, 02:22:59 PM
DW, you do realise for you to lose a pound of fat a day you'd need a negative caloric balance of atleast 4050 calories...?!
There's no way you can do that.Ill let you kids argue on.

Peace
D
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 12, 2006, 02:28:18 PM
DW, you do realise for you to lose a pound of fat a day you'd need a negative caloric balance of atleast 4050 calories...?!
There's no way you can do that.Ill let you kids argue on.

Peace
D

if my maintenance is 3500 and i burn 2200 eat only 1000 im what negative 1200 thats easily a pound fat a day
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: natural al on December 12, 2006, 02:29:43 PM

lol TA is the man, he has earned my respect, he knows the truths and lies, but you my friend get no respect, you are too stupid to have any respect for

this coming from a dude who can barely put a sentence together and lives in his mommy and daddy's basement.  Trust me I don't come to this site for respect, if I needed to come here to justify my existance I'd be pretty sad....kinda like you.  oh, yeah...I ain't your friend.

just cause he brainwashed you right out of beating him in the MGB doesn't mean you have to get all bitchy with me.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Tony23 on December 12, 2006, 02:31:46 PM
There are 3500 calories per pound of body fat.

Please keep posting DW, this is awesome to read.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 12, 2006, 02:32:12 PM
this coming from a dude who can barely put a sentence together and lives in his mommy and daddy's basement.  Trust me I don't come to this site for respect, if I needed to come here to justify my existance I'd be pretty sad....kinda like you.  oh, yeah...I ain't your friend.

just cause he brainwashed you right out of beating him in the MGB doesn't mean you have to get all bitchy with me.

you get on this site for daddywaddys father to son ownages
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 12, 2006, 02:33:29 PM
There are 3500 calories per pound of body fat.

Please keep posting DW, this is awesome to read.

tony make me a pizza or fix me a bowl of frosted flakes
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: natural al on December 12, 2006, 02:34:08 PM
you get on this site for daddywaddys father to son ownages

the only thing you're ever gonna own in your life is a steady diet of government cheese and food stamps if you keep going the way you're going.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Tony23 on December 12, 2006, 02:35:11 PM
tony make me a pizza or fix me a bowl of frosted flakes

That would mess up your 1200 calorie deficit that causes you to lose a pound of fat a day.   :-X
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: drop set on December 12, 2006, 04:02:00 PM
Cory Everson, FLEX magazine, gaining hamstring mass.  Oh yeah and have you seen a 100m sprinter's legs?
as good as cory was,she wouldnt be the name that sprung to mind if i were thinking bout leg mass.and yes i have seen 100m sprinters legs,you ever seen a pro sprinters leg workout the mass they carry comes mainly from weights,your comments are bout as thoughtful as daddywaddy's or whatever his f**kin name is u cock
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Cap on December 12, 2006, 04:05:16 PM
as good as cory was,she wouldnt be the name that sprung to mind if i were thinking bout leg mass.and yes i have seen 100m sprinters legs,you ever seen a pro sprinters leg workout the mass they carry comes mainly from weights,your comments are bout as thoughtful as daddywaddy's or whatever his f**kin name is u cock
Do you know for a fact all their mass comes from weights dipshit?  Think before you open your mouth cockstain.  Look at NFL running backs or college running backs.  I have friends that play in college and they do mostly 5x5 and that is more for strength than anything else.  Legs can be built from sprinting, especially with resistance.  Look at soccer players dick.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: The Squadfather on December 12, 2006, 04:07:54 PM
Do you know for a fact all their mass comes from weights dipshit?  Think before you open your mouth cockstain.  Look at NFL running backs or college running backs.  I have friends that play in college and they do mostly 5x5 and that is more for strength than anything else.  Legs can be built from sprinting, especially with resistance.  Look at soccer players dick.
hahahahaha, you can't be that stupid are you? are you telling me that thick teardrop and outer sweep development comes for these people magically after a few 100 meter sprints? hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aa!!!!!!!!!!!!! they all train with weights, dummy, even soccer players.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: doison on December 12, 2006, 04:09:14 PM
Do you know for a fact all their mass comes from weights dipshit?  Think before you open your mouth cockstain.  Look at NFL running backs or college running backs.  I have friends that play in college and they do mostly 5x5 and that is more for strength than anything else.  Legs can be built from sprinting, especially with resistance.  Look at soccer players dick.

Yeah, soccer players have massive legs.  ::)
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: The Squadfather on December 12, 2006, 04:10:38 PM
Yeah, soccer players have massive legs.  ::)
actually some of them do, maybe not next to pro bb'ers but some of them have damn good development but it for damn sure didn't come from just running.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Cap on December 12, 2006, 04:11:02 PM
hahahahaha, you can't be that stupid are you? are you telling me that thick teardrop and outer sweep development comes for these people magically after a few 100 meter sprints? hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aa!!!!!!!!!!!!! they all train with weights, dummy, even soccer players.
No, but you can build mass from repeated sprints.  My friend plays for a top Div 1 soccer team and his legs are massive and he doesn't squat crazy.  Same goes for other soccer playing friends.  They have massive legs and calves and rarely squat.  My buddy had like 18 in calves and 27 inch legs and I can out squat him but he is a hell of a soccer player.  Explain that.

Yeah, soccer players have massive legs.  ::)
Original. Hold on.  ::)  Ok.  ::)
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Cap on December 12, 2006, 04:12:40 PM
actually some of them do, maybe not next to pro bb'ers but some of them have damn good development but it for damn sure didn't come from just running.
I never said they just come from running but their sprints sure as hell help.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: The Squadfather on December 12, 2006, 04:13:22 PM
No, but you can build mass from repeated sprints.  My friend plays for a top Div 1 soccer team and his legs are massive and he doesn't squat crazy.  Same goes for other soccer playing friends.  They have massive legs and calves and rarely squat.  My buddy had like 18 in calves and 27 inch legs and I can out squat him but he is a hell of a soccer player.  Explain that.
 Original. Hold on.  ::)  Ok.  ::)
i would explain that as you having shitty genetics because 27 inch legs are allright sized but nothing incredible.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: drop set on December 12, 2006, 04:13:32 PM
im down to 230 today, i was 235 monday :) 1 hour of cardio and 1300 calories dropped 5 pounds for me!! i was expecting 3...ill keep you guys updated. about 210 i think i will be just right
proof you are a cock that spouts shite. you originally said you  burn 2000-2200 in 1hr.are you totally incapable of grasping the fact that 95% of the weight you lost is just sweat.you'll have a drink which will then be taken straight back in,you actually burnt bout 5-6 oz of fat YOU FUK WIT
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Cap on December 12, 2006, 04:16:37 PM
i would explain that as you having shitty genetics because 27 inch legs are allright sized but nothing incredible.
For a natural I would say they are good.  I do have chicken legs by nature for sure.  No argument there.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: warrior_code on December 12, 2006, 04:20:24 PM
sure his ideas sound far fetched, but, can anyone of you show me a natural that is better then him? I don't mean guys who lie about it like willet or anything. of course this all assumeing he is natty, which i do believe.   
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: The Squadfather on December 12, 2006, 04:24:33 PM
sure his ideas sound far fetched, but, can anyone of you show me a natural that is better then him? I don't mean guys who lie about it like willet or anything. of course this all assumeing he is natty, which i do believe.   
the man does have a great build especially for being so tall.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: warrior_code on December 12, 2006, 04:26:11 PM
exactly, I Have never seen a natural look like him in that video he has posted of him being incredibly high.  the man was made to perform, not many people at 6'6 are like him. 
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: The Squadfather on December 12, 2006, 04:28:37 PM
exactly, I Have never seen a natural look like him in that video he has posted of him being incredibly high.  the man was made to perform, not many people at 6'6 are like him. 
i agree, pro bb'ing should be about guys like him, height, width and great build, more people would look up to the business then, they would at least look like real athletes.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: drop set on December 12, 2006, 04:31:31 PM
Do you know for a fact all their mass comes from weights dipshit?  Think before you open your mouth cockstain.  Look at NFL running backs or college running backs.  I have friends that play in college and they do mostly 5x5 and that is more for strength than anything else.  Legs can be built from sprinting, especially with resistance.  Look at soccer players dick.
you think before you open your f**kin gob nob squirt.i never said "no" leg development could be acheived from sprinting,i actually said that if he experienced new growth from sprinting  whilst dieting and he classes himself as a "bodybuilder" then he must have trianed them like a f**kin girl before.anyway your comment is complete bollocks,you say you got friends,i FUKIN DOUBT IT and i bet they dont know they are,recon their takin the f**kin piss out of you.do their bags get heavy when your carrying them.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: warrior_code on December 12, 2006, 04:32:08 PM
i agree, pro bb'ing should be about guys like him, height, width and great build, more people would look up to the business then, they would at least look like real athletes.

you are right, you can take me. I am not a bber or anything, so coming from someone who isn't apart of the industry, the guys today look weird.  As short as wide they are. I remember that I started to like bodybuilding when I saw pumping iron, guys like arnold and lou were  big and tall and got lots of women, not like the guys today.  
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: drop set on December 12, 2006, 04:46:20 PM
you are right, you can take me. I am not a bber or anything, so coming from someone who isn't apart of the industry, the guys today look weird.  As short as wide they are. I remember that I started to like bodybuilding when I saw pumping iron, guys like arnold and lou were  big and tall and got lots of women, not like the guys today.  
if your not a bodybuilder or anything what the f**k are you telling bodybuilders on a bodybuilding website what bodybuilders should look like,we dont do what we do to please you we do it for ourselves cause its what we love doing.FUK OFF and give your opinion where its f**kin wanted.bet your a f**kin homo after some pics of men in little pants
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 12, 2006, 04:47:36 PM
if your not a bodybuilder or anything what the f**k are you telling bodybuilders on a bodybuilding website what bodybuilders should look like,we dont do what we do to please you we do it for ourselves cause its what we love doing.f**k OFF and give your opinion where its f**kin wanted.bet your a f**kin homo after some pics of men in little pants

meltdown/self ownage
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: warrior_code on December 12, 2006, 04:49:27 PM
I gave my perspective from someone who isn't heavily involved in the sport, take it for what it is worth to you.  and sorry to break it to you nancy, I am not a homo. 
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: drop set on December 12, 2006, 05:27:00 PM
I gave my perspective from someone who isn't heavily involved in the sport, take it for what it is worth to you.  and sorry to break it to you nancy, I am not a homo. 
like i said it aint worth shit
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: drop set on December 12, 2006, 05:34:00 PM
meltdown/self ownage
says you,with all the shite an contradictions youve spouted.what the f**ks "daddywaddy"all about,is that what the kids call you ,are you a f**kin peudo,do you wear nappies at weekends and shite yourself for fun
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 12, 2006, 05:36:09 PM
says you,with all the shite an contradictions youve spouted.what the f**ks "daddywaddy"all about,is that what the kids call you ,are you a f**kin peudo,do you wear nappies at weekends and shite yourself for fun

routine/double pose meltdown
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: warrior_code on December 12, 2006, 05:38:35 PM
like i said it aint worth shit

it is most likely worth solid waste for the most part yes.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: carvedoutofwood on December 13, 2006, 07:46:28 PM
routine/double pose meltdown

daddywaddy is 5 foot 6 inches tall and weighs 158 lbs... he's well built for a 18 year old kid, but sadly the person posting inst he... claims of weighing 265 at 6 foot 6 have diminished his legitimacy.... the individual posting with the moniker "daddywaddy" isnt the same person u see in the photos he has posted...

He is a gimmick account, and foolish to respond to
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 13, 2006, 08:07:17 PM
daddywaddy is 5 foot 6 inches tall and weighs 158 lbs... he's well built for a 18 year old kid, but sadly the person posting inst he... claims of weighing 265 at 6 foot 6 have diminished his legitimacy.... the individual posting with the moniker "daddywaddy" isnt the same person u see in the photos he has posted...

He is a gimmick account, and foolish to respond to

actually im 5feet 7 165 3% bodyfat bench about 405
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: carvedoutofwood on December 13, 2006, 08:33:28 PM
of course you do...
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: drop set on December 14, 2006, 04:18:02 AM
actually im 5feet 7 165 3% bodyfat bench about 405
damn fine bench for 165lb swimmer
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: rockyfortune on December 14, 2006, 05:18:06 AM
Three pages in i see this guy's diet of 1000-1500 calories a day and i tend to think he's exaggerating just a bit...up until that point the dude had me going...
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: RJB on December 14, 2006, 06:40:05 AM
With all the eating and long workouts that daddywaddy and adonis do, when do they have time to make money and bang chicks? Just wondering because I like banging my girlfriend way more than I like doing 60 sets of curls.
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 14, 2006, 07:10:12 AM
i was expecting to get down to 225 the next day with the same low cal diet and cardio odd thing is i didnt lose a single pound, i know why because fat (intramuscular triglycerides)and glycogen stores in muscle were depleted to nothing therefore slowing my metabolism big time. so yesterday i pigged out and watched my muscles fill out while at a lower bodyfat!!!! smoked some christmas tree bud later and really ended up pigging  out, so today im still leaner but full, and my metabolism is running 100% im sure at the amount of food i ate. so today ill try not to go to high on calories and do alot of cardio to start the fatloss again up for a day maybe pig out again on saturday
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: chainsaw on December 14, 2006, 08:04:51 AM
With all the eating and long workouts that daddywaddy and adonis do, when do they have time to make money and bang chicks? Just wondering because I like banging my girlfriend way more than I like doing 60 sets of curls.

I curl my girl for 6 sets then bang her!
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: carvedoutofwood on December 14, 2006, 02:28:56 PM
i was expecting to get down to 225 the next day with the same low cal diet and cardio odd thing is i didnt lose a single pound, i know why because fat (intramuscular triglycerides)and glycogen stores in muscle were depleted to nothing therefore slowing my metabolism big time. so yesterday i pigged out and watched my muscles fill out while at a lower bodyfat!!!! smoked some christmas tree bud later and really ended up pigging  out, so today im still leaner but full, and my metabolism is running 100% im sure at the amount of food i ate. so today ill try not to go to high on calories and do alot of cardio to start the fatloss again up for a day maybe pig out again on saturday

nobody cares... u dont weigh 225, or 265, not even close to touching 200... your short, narrow, and you look like shit...  :'( :'( :'( ... 6 foot 6.... omfg lmfao... haha
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 14, 2006, 03:18:45 PM
nobody cares... u dont weigh 225, or 265, not even close to touching 200... your short, narrow, and you look like shit...  :'( :'( :'( ... 6 foot 6.... omfg lmfao... haha

'carvedoutofwood' would you like to play with my wood maybe put a nice finish on it for me?
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: natural al on December 14, 2006, 03:48:19 PM
'carvedoutofwood' would you like to play with my wood maybe put a nice finish on it for me?

asking another dude to play with your wood?  dW....say it ain't so..I thought you were just a meathead not a homo and a meathead ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: carvedoutofwood on December 14, 2006, 06:31:11 PM
asking another dude to play with your wood?  dW....say it ain't so..I thought you were just a meathead not a homo and a meathead ??? ??? ??? ???

he's nobody, and he's certaintly not the person in the pictures he posts... he's adopted an identity, and then lied about his fake stats.... sad....

DW, youve been weighed, youve been measured, and youve been found wanting... its time to retire this alias and adopt a new one
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: slaveboy1980 on December 15, 2006, 03:39:38 AM
he's nobody, and he's certaintly not the person in the pictures he posts... he's adopted an identity, and then lied about his fake stats.... sad....

DW, youve been weighed, youve been measured, and youve been found wanting... its time to retire this alias and adopt a new one

are you envious of his big penis, hardwood?
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: drop set on December 15, 2006, 02:17:04 PM
i was expecting to get down to 225 the next day with the same low cal diet and cardio odd thing is i didnt lose a single pound, i know why because fat (intramuscular triglycerides)and glycogen stores in muscle were depleted to nothing therefore slowing my metabolism big time. so yesterday i pigged out and watched my muscles fill out while at a lower bodyfat!!!! smoked some christmas tree bud later and really ended up pigging  out, so today im still leaner but full, and my metabolism is running 100% im sure at the amount of food i ate. so today ill try not to go to high on calories and do alot of cardio to start the fatloss again up for a day maybe pig out again on saturday
doesnt matter how slow your metabolism, if you expended more calories than you took in you'd lose.and you obviously didnt "know why" cause if you did and it was the case you "wouldnt of".
never heard so much shite come from one hole,f**k off nob cheddar
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: Marty Champions on December 15, 2006, 02:37:20 PM
doesnt matter how slow your metabolism, if you expended more calories than you took in you'd lose.and you obviously didnt "know why" cause if you did and it was the case you "wouldnt of".
never heard so much shite come from one hole,f**k off nob cheddar

well i wasnt getting in enough calories to compensate for my (fat loss, workout/cardio) thats why i didnt lose jack shit the next day

my metabolism slowed big time...i beleive metabolism can slow to 75% of 100% im not sure how accurate that is. so when your metabolism slows you dont lose as much fat and you dont lose muscle, the whole bodily processes as a whole slows down..so i think you want to keep in the 90-100% range....by doing a shitload of cardio or working out you speed up the grand scheme of it all BUT calories would need to be increased
Title: Re: ARE YOU FINALLY READY TO SEE A REAL HARDCORE 60 SET ONE BODYPART WORKOUT?
Post by: carvedoutofwood on December 15, 2006, 03:16:31 PM
doesnt matter how slow your metabolism, if you expended more calories than you took in you'd lose.and you obviously didnt "know why" cause if you did and it was the case you "wouldnt of".
never heard so much shite come from one hole,f**k off nob cheddar

just to let you know drop set... DW, is a gimmick account... proven here: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=112477.msg1624313#msg1624313 ... just letting you know, talking to an imaginary character is a futile effort