Now, Milamar and I are planning to compete in Colorado...After all it is IFBB show - so you can't do nothing about it...
I need the contracts - PRONTO...You care to personally deliver or you want me to stop by your house?
Uh, yeah...would you consider paying for business class flight for me...?
Economy seat is kind of small...my arms are too big for regular seats...
Please Milos wouldnt place top 10. Next ::)Where's Silvio going to place?
Where's Silvio going to place?
I say probably top 5thanks Sean.
thanks sgt. d.
Milos might get deported...the_Hammer might be dropped
Milos. I know a guy that could get you some "slin" ;)War-whores you're gonna drive this guy carzy man ;D
The_hammer in action. Milos, watch out for this master of musclebear love.
As a Contest Promoter, I welcome ALL IFBB Pro's in "Good Standing" with the Federation.
This should be interesting. ::)
Welcome aboard old friend. :-*
HAHA,
I don't swing that way Luke. Sorry to disappoint you.
I hear the tranny hookers in Thailand are great though. Why don't you ask your buddy DJ because I'm sure he knows all about it.
wow i think it would be great to see milos in action again. If he won, it would be priceless to see shawn bring him that check
You can ask DJ yourself!! I mean he called you out to meet him at Koloseum Gym incase Milos runs away again!!! ::)
As a Contest Promoter, I welcome ALL IFBB Pro's in "Good Standing" with the Federation.
This should be interesting. ::)
Welcome aboard old friend. :-*
wow i think it would be great to see milos in action again. If he won, it would be priceless to see shawn bring him that check
Kiss would also be nice...after I receive a check (hoping not to bounce...) and a trophy...
Pass me whatever you are smoking.
Pass me whatever you are smoking.
You are as subtle as a brick Shawn!
I'll forgive DJ for making such stupid remarks because I truely believe he's on the level of Paul Dillet intelligence wise. If there was ever a contest DJ would win it would be the Special Mr. Olympia.(http://www.ulster.ac.uk/news/images/special-olympics.jpg)
You think thats funny posting a picture of kid like that! This kid in that picture that would'nt even have a clue how lucky we are to NOT be like him!!! he laughs, he smiles and he crys like we do and wonders why he is not like all the others kids! Why am i so different?? Well i can tell you he is alot different to you hammer !!! look at that picture again!! That kid is all heart! he loves life, he doesn't care about scumbags like you hammer and although he knows he is different to us he still is living life to the fullest!!! You are such a big man posting a picture like that!!! I'm now officially on your BASH list!!
Do you know anyone who has a child who is disabled or is a spastic?? If you had anything in that tiny heart of yours you wouldn't have posted this!
You think thats funny posting a picture of kid like that! This kid in that picture would'nt even have a clue how lucky we are to NOT be like him!!! he laughs, he smiles and he crys like we do and wonders why he is not like all the others kids! Why am i so different?? Well i can tell you he is alot different to you hammer !!! look at that picture again!! That kid is all heart! he loves life, he doesn't care about scumbags like you hammer and although he knows he is different to us he still is living life to the fullest!!! You are such a big man posting a picture like that!!! I'm now officially on your BASH list!!Luke, Just take a good look at Hammer and this kid looks much better than that
Do you know anyone who has a child who is disabled or is a spastic?? If you had anything in that tiny heart of yours you wouldn't have posted this!
You think thats funny posting a picture of kid like that! This kid in that picture would'nt even have a clue how lucky we are to NOT be like him!!! he laughs, he smiles and he crys like we do and wonders why he is not like all the others kids! Why am i so different?? Well i can tell you he is alot different to you hammer !!! look at that picture again!! That kid is all heart! he loves life, he doesn't care about scumbags like you hammer and although he knows he is different to us he still is living life to the fullest!!! You are such a big man posting a picture like that!!! I'm now officially on your BASH list!!
Do you know anyone who has a child who is disabled or is a spastic?? If you had anything in that tiny heart of yours you wouldn't have posted this!
Will they sell tickets at the door???Great "War-Horse" we'll see you there. That is if you're not to scared to introduce yourself as your Getbig name.
I may as well go, since a real pro, may now show up. 8)
Great "War-Horse" we'll see you there. That is if you're not to scared to introduce yourself as your Getbig name.
GETBIG OR DIE
;D
I think Milos is too scared. All the young talent is too much for him :)
He's all talk. Won't step back on any stage soon.
War-Horse I look forward to seeing you there as well.
He's all talk. Won't step back on any stage soon.
War-Horse I look forward to seeing you there as well.
Well its quick notice to get to denver from vegas...but ill make some calls.
The only shows i had planned on for sure is the USA in july and the Olympia.
Would LOVE to meet you guys tho...dont know what you guys look like...(Lifestudios) (texasbubba) Bubba may be shawn ray himself??
IMO, Milos is just too vulnerable in the Colo Pro. I would wait for the next one.
IMO, Milos is just too vulnerable in the Colo Pro. I would wait for the next one.
240
The New Manager to the Pros.
lol
I think Milos is too scared. All the young talent is too much for him :)
;D ;D ;D
Maybe I am afraid to loose?
I lost 71 times as a pro in 72 competitions... ::)
To me I would compete against myself - not the others...
But, as I said: I will compete WHEN I exceed my previous best...it is more than likely I will pass the Colorado (as I am focusing on Dennis Wolf for Keystone)...my wife Milamar and several of my dear friends doing the Cal State this weekend...and ultimately for one of my very best friends (DJ's) appearance in Colorado...
However, I still have 11-12 days and that means possibly 20 pounds...so I keep the invitation open...
Plus, my debate with Bob could go for a week...so I might be late...
I love life that's why! :P
Milos Please post pics ;D
Is Milos in the Colorado?
Both Milos Sarcev & Shawn Ray are the most outsporken pro in the BB industry!!
I always respect them !!
Nobody beats Lee for the most truthful pro in the BB industry!!Lee Haney ?
Milos will NOT Be Competing in the Colorado Pro. :'(great, now all 20 people in the crowd will have nothing to look foward to...
He is welcome to attend.
His wife is welcome to attend and or compete. :o
No press Pass will be issued to him.
He can use one of his Athletes Tickets to enter.
He may bring his camera.
Thank you for your continued support Milos, see you in Colorado ;D
S. Ray
Need a tip how to loose weight...build muscle...huge guns ::)...ok - forget the guns....
great, now all 20 people in the crowd will have nothing to look foward to...haha maybe Milos will put on a mini-seminar in the audience for all 20 people ;D
He may bring his camera.Are you worried he will photograph you with one of your many mistresses?
Thank you for your continued support Milos, see you in Colorado ;D
S. Ray
Milos will NOT Be Competing in the Colorado Pro. :'(No press pass, Spicy, that means Sean will be backstage with his mistresses :D
He is welcome to attend.
His wife is welcome to attend and or compete. :o
No press Pass will be issued to him.He can use one of his Athletes Tickets to enter.
He may bring his camera.
Thank you for your continued support Milos, see you in Colorado ;D
S. Ray
I have a feeling there were more people at Milos's seminar than are going to the Colorado Pro. I hope not. I want Sean to be a huge success. He is my hero and I idolize him for being a stand up guy. Opps sorry, I thought I was in the IFBB and just got that call to threaten me. :D
milos bro
...ur wife is sooo damn hot! *MILIMAR* hot name ALSO :o
Well done there brother man!
Damn !
Does she got a trainning video? not just a fitness kinda aerobic training 1 ,but rather a muscle video? My babe wants some training info
smoking hot babe , with all due respek
Maybe this is all a WWF-like contrived conflict to sell tickets ;D
Maybe it's getting old and boring
like your posts... ;D
If you were there, Keith...you would have seen that there was a pretty decent crowd...especially for a first year show. It was a 5,000 plus seat theater, If 2500 people showed up, it is half empty...and LOOKS sparce.they went with a 5,000 seat theater in that hick town? no wonder it looked empty
I hope we don't have a case of "rewriting history" when it comes to last year's numbers...What "numbers" are you speaking of?
Keep it real.
I hope we don't have a case of "rewriting history" when it comes to last year's numbers...
Keep it real.
What "numbers" are you speaking of?
Just what were last years numbers, Rob?
Settle down, boys. I simply said i hope we don't have a situation where some with interests in the show tend to over-exaggerate last year's attendance.
Bob - We saw your public proclamation (from cali) that the NOC was very low, only to have numerous people AT THE SHOW in nyc tell us it was nearly packed. Instead of revising your original estimate/statement, your argument became "yeah... well... well... they gave away all those tickets" instead of conceding your boy on the ground gave you poor information.
I don't like it when people of importance/position in the industry will over- or under- estimate attendance figures to serve their own agenda. It's dishonest.
Tickets WERE given away, in hundeds...I know that for fact. The numbers I received were from people that were THERE.
The numbers I received were from people that were THERE.
Who had more reason to exaggerate the numbers?
There was no poor info given...and it wasn't from one person.
Who has given a number from the Colorado last year for you to have made your post in response?
There were a great deal of numbers shared last year, and we all saw the pics of the auditorium taken during finals. NO ONE has put out poor information, or "rewritten history". yet. My comment was a smile to anyone who does flippantly post "yeah bro, the place was jammed packed last year" that he/she will be proven wrong, and that honestly, nobody likes a liar.What numbers Robbie? There were no pics of the auditorium taken at night, only the idiot cameraman panning the audience at the end of the night when trivia questions were asked to kill time while the final scores were totalled. The convention center is huge and of course it's not going to sell out or be "jam packed" however the shots you saw of the audience were at the end of the night and not reflective of the audience in attendance.
What numbers Robbie?
There were no pics of the auditorium taken at night, only the idiot cameraman panning the audience at the end of the night when trivia questions were asked to kill time while the final scores were totalled. The convention center is huge and of course it's not going to sell out or be "jam packed" however the shots you saw of the audience were at the end of the night and not reflective of the audience in attendance.
Perhaps you should gather your facts, being a history buff and all you should know that. You're trying to serve up a deep dish of your "poisonous pizza".
Aw, you're emotionally charged, using cute names.Simply "keeping it real". Still waiting for your numbers. You put it out there "when it comes to last year's numbers...
You don't have to justify those pics showing sparce attendance to me or anyone else. I'm sure the attendance was super-duper. Why is the cameraman an idiot for showing the crowd?
I didn't post any numbers. "Gathering my facts" would be a necessary action should I post a number and need to back it up. I didn't accuse you of making up numbers, nor did I accuse anyone. But I smelled it in the air... it was coming.
The auditorium fit 5,000 people. They had half if it closed off. They only had half of the seats available filled. The pre-judging had about 10 people in attendance. Hope this helps. And TexasBlubber took up two seats.Left the breakfast buffet long enough to join in the Colorado Show bashing again aye Keith?
The auditorium fit 5,000 people. They had half if it closed off.
They only had half of the [2500] seats available filled.
The pre-judging had about 10 people in attendance.
Simply "keeping it real". Still waiting for your numbers. You put it out there "when it comes to last year's numbers...
There were no pics of the audience, if there were you'd have posted them along with Onlyme following suit right behind you. The cameraman is an idiot for showing the crowd at the end of the night because of exactly what you're attempting to portray now; the no one in attendance rhetoric.
Was attendance huge? No. Was it terrible? No. I don't have the actual numbers but unlike you and Keith, I attend events as opposed to belittling the shows.
The only smell in the air is your blatant BS related to this topic.
AH, but the statement you initially made was that the place was over half-empty - I believe you gave a very low # estimate also. You were sharing an attendance count, not a "tickets sold" count. The tickets sold thing only came up later. It was a DIVERSIONARY tactic you used to distract the reader from the fact that pics showed your low esimate was very off base. You didn't amend your statement- you changed the subject. Poor debating.
There was no diversionary tactic...just an observation by some people that were actually there...and yes, they said it was half empty...I don't know if that was before or after they started shuffling in bums and Hari Krishna's from off the street...we already know for fact there were somewhere between 500 and 1,000 tickets that were given to a few people to give out as the pleased...
THose people were proven wrong by pictures taken by Legaros. I believe photographs over your friends who were there. Your friends gave you bad information. You should ask them why they would mis-report. it made you look bad.
Bullshit...one pic that shows the middle of a crowd? LOL...
Wayne, of course, had more motivation to lie about the numbers. Thing is, he didn't. Only one person put out bad information about the attendance: you.
How do you now he didn't (like he doesn't have other people posting?) Like the "health care" they had set up? Or any of the other blatent lies that were spun? Why would anyone believe YOU of all people? Werent you supposedly dying of some incurable disease a few years ago? You're as niave as Onlyme...
You said it was half-empty. That was poor info. "Poor info" means "wrong info", as pics show your info was. I also believe you put an estimate in the very low 100s, (although pics and door say that 1400 or so were there for finals).
No one says that except PDI nuthuggers...who had every reason to exaggerate.
There were a great deal of numbers shared last year, and we all saw the pics of the auditorium taken during finals. NO ONE has put out poor information, or "rewritten history". yet. My comment was a smile to anyone who does flippantly post "yeah bro, the place was jammed packed last year" that he/she will be proven wrong, and that honestly, nobody likes a liar.
No one posted that, so who were you responding to? And why ost it like someone was?
Okay! We finally have some numbers. Have at them everyone!Consider the source. An angry man at the promoter who lives on an island providing numbers to a show in Colorado. Yeah, good source Mr. Fact checker.
Can anyone verify that auditorium does hold 5k and that half was indeed blocked off?
Can anyone verify or disprove (pix, tix, or otherwise) that at its peak, only HALF of the seats were filled? (IMO that seems low estimate, but I wasn't there so I couldn't responsibly speak on it. However, LIFT, you should be able to disprove Keith easily if he is incorrect here)
Wow - is this true or a joking jab? Photogs alone should have been higher. If you are joking, please clarify. How full was prejudging, LIFT?
Consider the source. An angry man at the promoter who lives on an island providing numbers to a show in Colorado. Yeah, good source Mr. Fact checker.
Prejudging was not "jam packed" but to expect 5,000 people for a bodybuilding show outside of the Arnold or Olympia is idiotic. I don't have the numbers, never claimed to. What difference does it make? Their is a show this weekend that very few people even know about yet you two bust on the Colorado, your motives appear to be geared directly at Shawn.
Consider the source. An angry man at the promoter who lives on an island providing numbers to a show in Colorado. Yeah, good source Mr. Fact checker.
It wasn't blocked off and it does hold around 5,000.
Prejudging was not "jam packed" but to expect 5,000 people for a bodybuilding show outside of the Arnold or Olympia is idiotic. I don't have the numbers, never claimed to. What difference does it make? Their is a show this weekend that very few people even know about yet you two bust on the Colorado, your motives appear to be geared directly at Shawn.
Simply "keeping it real". Still waiting for your numbers. You put it out there "when it comes to last year's numbers...
There were no pics of the audience, if there were you'd have posted them along with Onlyme following suit right behind you. The cameraman is an idiot for showing the crowd at the end of the night because of exactly what you're attempting to portray now; the no one in attendance rhetoric. Was attendance huge? No. Was it terrible? No. I don't have the actual numbers but unlike you and Keith, I attend events as opposed to belittling the shows.
The only smell in the air is your blatant BS related to this topic.
The auditorium fit 5,000 people. They had half if it closed off. They only had half of the seats available filled. The pre-judging had about 10 people in attendance. Hope this helps. And TexasBlubber took up two seats.
Keith you weren't even there. Remember the airlines won't allow you to fly because of your FAT ASS...there are weight restrictions. However, I have spoken to a a freight line captain who is willing to get you to LA where, Penske Logistics will have a a semi-trailer available to move you to Denver. The hotel however, has an issue with you breaking the beds. But the Denver Zoo has offered you a nice place to stay in the Elephant area. Now you have no reason to attend.
Keith you weren't even there. Remember the airlines won't allow you to fly because of your FAT ASS...there are weight restrictions. However, I have spoken to a a freight line captain who is willing to get you to LA where, Penske Logistics will have a a semi-trailer available to move you to Denver. The hotel however, has an issue with you breaking the beds. But the Denver Zoo has offered you a nice place to stay in the Elephant area. Now you have no reason to attend.
Can I borrow one of your jets money-bags. I mean a guy who makes the kind of coin you mkae by putting out toilet bowl fires certainly must have a fleet of jets.
If you're not Shawn Ray, you're doing a *really* good job of making people think you're Shawn Ray.
Your beefs are very similar, as is your familiarity with those involved.
If you're not Shawn Ray, you're doing a *really* good job of making people think you're Shawn Ray.
Your beefs are very similar, as is your familiarity with those involved.
He is a poster boy for OBSITY.
Thanks 240, but not Shawn. I am just tired of folks like Keith talking smack when in fact they don't attend a single show, yet the are quick to bad mouth promoters who are putting up money. Secondly, what the hell does Keith now about training or living a healthy lifestyle. He is a poster boy for OBSITY.
hahaha, I bet you I have had a far far more successful career with my body and strength than you even dreamed off. And I also bet I have put in more money into promoting and supporting BB than you ever dreamed off. Dude you talk way to much shit for someone with no name and no picture. Put something up or shut the fuck up and let the people talk who know something. The more you talk the more you sound like Apenis. Maybe you are one of his gimmick accounts. You talk out of your ass and embarrass yourself with each sentance. Keep it up moron, you're a tool
Easy FAT ASS...Major MELT DOWN. You are career my body and strenght....LMAO. Eating bon bons maybe. Give us the name and number of the lady you spoke to at the convention center, so us some credibilit. I posted my pick. Were you eating? Will you be taking me up on my offer to sail and truck you to Denver or not?
Blubber you could hardly come close to having me meltdown. About as much luck as Goodrum. We haven't seen your pics fat man so post them. And don't post a picture of your "pick". We don't need to see what you pick your teeth with. For someone who makes $1 million a month like you said you did, you sure are stupid. Are you sure you're not Sean.
I agree - Keith, it is time to attend a show, an expo - because it is hard to comment when you don't actually go there. A lot of people comment and never show up to a show or expo. But then again, others have, and I garner more respect for them. I am not talking about a show 5 or 10 years ago, I am talking about one now. Get with it, get out of Hawaii, and come to the O already.
As for numbers for the Colorado Pro, under 1,000 for the prejuding, close to 1,400 for the finals is what the estimates with, with comps. About the same as the Ironman and other pro shows besides the O and the Arnold. There were a lot more for the expo, but like we found out at the Ironman this year, a record crowd for the expo doesn't mean more ticket sales for the pro show. Has the webcast effected the ticket sales.
That is an arguement that has been brewing around.
Keith, you instead of posting here. Go down the street to the gym. Get on a treadmill and loose a couple hundred pounds. Then come back.
I agree - Keith, it is time to attend a show, an expo - because it is hard to comment when you don't actually go there. A lot of people comment and never show up to a show or expo. But then again, others have, and I garner more respect for them. I am not talking about a show 5 or 10 years ago, I am talking about one now. Get with it, get out of Hawaii, and come to the O already.
As for numbers for the Colorado Pro, under 1,000 for the prejuding, close to 1,400 for the finals is what the estimates with, with comps. About the same as the Ironman and other pro shows besides the O and the Arnold. There were a lot more for the expo, but like we found out at the Ironman this year, a record crowd for the expo doesn't mean more ticket sales for the pro show. Has the webcast effected the ticket sales.
That is an arguement that has been brewing around.
Shut up moron. Are you sure you're not Sean
Keith, quit you crying. You sound like a little bitch. No attend a contest or shut the hell up! Again, I am offer a freighter out of Hilo and a semi-truck out of LA to get you to Denver are you in or not?haaaaaaaaaaahahah ;D
Keith, quit you crying. You sound like a little bitch. No attend a contest or shut the hell up! Again, I am offer a freighter out of Hilo and a semi-truck out of LA to get you to Denver are you in or not?
AH, but the statement you initially made was that the place was over half-empty - I believe you gave a very low # estimate also. You were sharing an attendance count, not a "tickets sold" count. The tickets sold thing only came up later. It was a DIVERSIONARY tactic you used to distract the reader from the fact that pics showed your low esimate was very off base. You didn't amend your statement- you changed the subject. Poor debating.
THose people were proven wrong by pictures taken by Legaros. I believe photographs over your friends who were there. Your friends gave you bad information. You should ask them why they would mis-report. it made you look bad.
Wayne, of course, had more motivation to lie about the numbers. Thing is, he didn't. Only one person put out bad information about the attendance: you.
You said it was half-empty. That was poor info. "Poor info" means "wrong info", as pics show your info was. I also believe you put an estimate in the very low 100s, (although pics and door say that 1400 or so were there for finals).
There were a great deal of numbers shared last year, and we all saw the pics of the auditorium taken during finals. NO ONE has put out poor information, or "rewritten history". yet. My comment was a smile to anyone who does flippantly post "yeah bro, the place was jammed packed last year" that he/she will be proven wrong, and that honestly, nobody likes a liar.
I agree - Keith, it is time to attend a show, an expo - because it is hard to comment when you don't actually go there. A lot of people comment and never show up to a show or expo. But then again, others have, and I garner more respect for them. I am not talking about a show 5 or 10 years ago, I am talking about one now. Get with it, get out of Hawaii, and come to the O already.
As for numbers for the Colorado Pro, under 1,000 for the prejuding, close to 1,400 for the finals is what the estimates with, with comps. About the same as the Ironman and other pro shows besides the O and the Arnold. There were a lot more for the expo, but like we found out at the Ironman this year, a record crowd for the expo doesn't mean more ticket sales for the pro show. Has the webcast effected the ticket sales.
That is an arguement that has been brewing around.
Are you worried he will photograph you with one of your many trannies?
lift what is your association with the IFBB? Do you work for them or represent them in a specific way? Honest question.I support the IFBB and IFBB competitors and have never claimed otherwise. IFBB bodybuilders, fitness and figure competitors are my clients. I photograph for IRONMAN, FLEX and NPC NEWS. The IFBB does not pay me but I am a supporter of the organization.
I *did* consider the source, and pointed out his obvious bias. I asked you to verify or disprove his claim. Instead of doing so, with tix or photographic evidence, you insulted me with a "Mr Fact Checker" label. I just asked a question whose answer has been yet to be verified.I posted my response before reading your comment on Keith. We can agree on his bias towards Shawn. I was in attendance and saw it with my own eyes. Why would I take photos to prove anything to you or him on the number of people there? Why would I have ticket stubs? If you're insulted with my label of you then you're spending too much time watching Dr. Phil and should ligthen up.
I like Shawn and have nothing against him. Hes parlayed his BBing career into a lucrative endorsement deal and whether you love him or hate him, you know his name. I hold no ill will against him. Same with the Colorado - last year I was all on his case because of the "Superstars like..." poster which showed a lineup better than the Arnold Classic, which never materialized. He has not done that this year, and I have not said one ill word about his show this year. I hope it does well.
You and Keith have an ongoing sparring match, and while it's entertaining, it doesn't involve me.
As for numbers for the Colorado Pro, under 1,000 for the prejuding, close to 1,400 for the finals is what the estimates with, with comps. About the same as the Ironman and other pro shows besides the O and the Arnold. There were a lot more for the expo, but like we found out at the Ironman this year, a record crowd for the expo doesn't mean more ticket sales for the pro show. Has the webcast effected the ticket sales.
That is an arguement that has been brewing around.
Issac you attend the events so you can take beat-off material for yourself. Why do you try to make it sound like you are a huge supporter of BB. And remember what you told me. Why are you going back to this show. Face it you are as bad as Chic when it comes to trying to make the IFBB look great. The show was a dud last year, they bounced 9 checks including some to the competitors. This IS Vyotech's last year as the title sponsor. Where is Sean going to get his money from................Texa sBlubber.No Keith, I attend events and photograph the shows so guys like you who don't attend show can have beat off material. I've contributed more to bodybuilding in the last few years than you have but that's besides the point. You sit online and bash Shawn every chance you get. Good for you, whatever you need to do to feel better. I am attending this show as a photographer. I've chosen not to work with the Colorado Pro show this year and that is no secret. Running a pro show is not easy and if it were you'd certainly attempt to do so. Whatever happened to your PDI show promotion?
I called the center and found out they had the whole back sections closed and part of the side.
Please tell me they have changed the venue of the show. Is it still being done at the Convention Center in Denver. Hope not cause they don't even have it on there calendar. Where is it being done this year. http://www.denverconvention.com/calendar.asp (http://www.denverconvention.com/calendar.asp)
No Keith, I attend events and photograph the shows so guys like you who don't attend show can have beat off material. I've contributed more to bodybuilding in the last few years than you have but that's besides the point. You sit online and bash Shawn every chance you get. Good for you, whatever you need to do to feel better. I am attending this show as a photographer. I've chosen not to work with the Colorado Pro show this year and that is no secret. Running a pro show is not easy and if it were you'd certainly attempt to do so. Whatever happened to your PDI show promotion?
You're full of shit on calling the center and the whole back sections closed off and part of the side. I was there and it was not closed off.
I think Onlyme needs a woman, so he wont be angry. Poor man is mad at the world. :'(
I think Onlyme needs a woman, so he wont be angry. Poor man is mad at the world. :'(
Back at the BUFFET LINE!
Keith, your remembered for yourlast failed attempt at Contest Promoting, you're intentions were good for the athletes but you Sucked as a Promoter!
That said, blame me because your "OVERPAID" me for appearing at your show as a "GUEST" I'll take the blame that I got paid what we mutually agreed upon before I left from Cali.
You're a Hater, that's cool and you wont be the last but dude, please GET A LIFE and quit with the Spider Bite Deal that was freaking 7 years ago and your STILL GAINING WEIGHT!
Try some Push aways, and turn the page on the CO PRO you wouldn't last 2 hrs in an airplane, the swelling you'd get from holding so much water wouldnt allow you to cross the Pacific to the main land.
Watch the show like you did last year online and put a sock in it!
Who's next? ;D
Back at the BUFFET LINE!
Keith, your remembered for yourlast failed attempt at Contest Promoting, you're intentions were good for the athletes but you Sucked as a Promoter!
That said, blame me because your "OVERPAID" me for appearing at your show as a "GUEST" I'll take the blame that I got paid what we mutually agreed upon before I left from Cali.
You're a Hater, that's cool and you wont be the last but dude, please GET A LIFE and quit with the Spider Bite Deal that was freaking 7 years ago and your STILL GAINING WEIGHT!
Try some Push aways, and turn the page on the CO PRO you wouldn't last 2 hrs in an airplane, the swelling you'd get from holding so much water wouldnt allow you to cross the Pacific to the main land.
Watch the show like you did last year online and put a sock in it!
Who's next? ;D
KEITH, how about making good on the CHECKS YOU BOUNCED as payment to Will Harris, Ryan Knealy, and myself for appearing at your ALOHA CLASSIC in 2003? That's the reason you'll never promote another NPC show.
Hey Sean you get fat in the off season when you competed and you got very fat and soft after you retired. What was your excuse. Was it no drugs to help you lose the weight or were you just tired of pretending to love bodybuilding and went to eating like you were brought up to do. My excuse was medical, your was not. You mention the bit was 7 years ago but yet it still affects me proven with the 2 week stay in the hospital this past Christmas 7 years after the bite. See moron you have NO excuse for looking like shit. You just do it cause thats the real you. You became a BB cause you are short and embarrased by that. You lifted took steroids and got muscle. But in reality you like the fat look and it is what fits you. But you realize that people are making fun of you so you take some more drugs, lose weight and try to get into shape. You realized you could NEVER win the big show and you were basically never going to win. SO quit. Good job. And you were there as a guest poser as every pro I brought in agreed to pose at the end. I asked you to come up on stage and honor your committment and you said right in front of may others, "I am to fat, I'm not going up there". SO yes, you are a piece of shit like everyone told me. Then how about the money you ripped off from my friend who got you the room at the Kahala Mandarin. What is your excuse for that one. What story are you going to make up this time. Dude face it, you are a piece of shit. You rip off who you can when you can. You get caught and you try to double talk your way out of it.
And as a promoter I blow you away. I put on an amateur NPC show on an island that is one of the most expensive place to live in the country and I had more people attend than you did. You are some famous BB who couldn't even promote a show in Denver. You bounced 9 checks to competitors and workers. You disgraced yourself to the military. Dude you are a disgrace. think about it. You think you are some almighty BB who thinks everyone loves him and yet hardly anyone likes you. You have ripped off to many people. You even ripped off the promoter of the last show you did here. You promised him $1000 from Vyotech. You then asked him to fly your wife out with you. He said no problem the money from Vyotech will pay for it. Then you call him and tell him Vyotech can only give him $500. What happened to the other $500. You kept it didn't you? Simply put Sean you are a piece of shit.
And I bet this show is going to be a flop to. And Vyotech will not be your title sponsor next year (if you even do the show again). Get a life moron, your 15 minutes of fame was up when you retired. Quit pretending
KEITH, how about making good on the CHECKS YOU BOUNCED as payment to Will Harris, Ryan Knealy, and myself for appearing at your ALOHA CLASSIC in 2003? That's the reason you'll never promote another NPC show.This coming from a 'man' that sold people rat poison ::)
This coming from a 'man' that sold people rat poison ::)
Who is the miserable piece of shit? It is you Keith!
If you were content and at peace with your life, you would not come on this board and continually attack Sean!
Stop deferring responsibility Keith. If you are that unhappy with how your life and physique have turned out, then do something about it!
Dont keep attacking Sean as a way of dealing with your own personal issues!
Keith, you dirty, scheming, manipulating dog.
Haven't you done enough already to discredit this so-called sport?
You have run a few dodgy BB pageant's; so fricken what!
And also, try picking up the phone and speak to these people. Stop doing your dirty work over the internet!
This coming from a 'man' that sold people rat poison ::)
This coming from a 'man' that sold people rat poison ::)
Calm down Keith, please just calm down!
You have much anger and hatred within you.
Why do you find it necessary to be in constant attack mode? It is you who is ultimately suffering out of all of this!
Keith, why are you always looking for validation through this forum? Move on, get a life. You come across as a whingeing and moaning attention-whore.
Keith, to tell you the truth, no one on here cares that you are a latent- homosexual. It is only you that has the identity crisis.
I hope that you find peace in your life Keith.
Hey Hank was wondering why are you on here. Have you competed or promoted a show or just a fan of muscles. Seriously, you have never had any serious input on any thread. You are obviously in love with Sean. Which is fine if you are into the girly type of short man. That's your preference. But, really other than that why are you here. By the way I have a life and a pretty damm good one. Overweight right now but still enjoying life. How about you? What is wrong with your life. Get it out here.
Keith, why do you find it necessary to patronise me? Why are constantly attacking others who share a viewpoint contrary to yours?
If you were happy with your own life Keith, it would not bother you how people like Sean chose to live theirs.
You are fat, so what? What matters is how you relate to the world you live in. It is apparent from your posts, that you are in conflict with this world Keith.
And also, you state that i am in love with Sean. Interesting assessment Keith.
And also, I beleiv
I don't attack people who disagree with me. I attack the people who attack me. Thats just me. You gang up on me about Sean which has nothing to do with you. Am I supposed to ignore Sean who constantly includes me in his threads and calls me fat. If thats all he can say then that's a sad thing. He has so many bad things about him it is easy to attack him. See you don't me. I have never met you. I do business and remain friends with people even after 20+ years of not talking. I can call up a friend from high school and it would be like we just saw each other yesterday. I have nothing to be mad about. I have lead a life that many can only wish for. SO you and Sean trying to make it sound like I lead a sad life or whatever is funny as hell. My worst day is better than most peoples best day. Stop getting involved with the shot I say to Sean and things would be cool. Nothing I say about him is false or a lie.
The funny thing is these past few posts got me to look at some old emails I had from my show. And the positive remarks I got from the pros and sponsors in attendance and allot of the competitors really made me feel pretty good. I also read some nightmare ones from when I was getting things together and I really see what hell I went through to do the shows. Here is just one. I forgot all about the fact I signed the contract for the convention center on Nov. 1. The show was May 25, 26 and 27 the next year. The center was paid in full in advance ($41,000). I had posters, radio, and a bunch of other marketing materials promoting the show all over Hawaii and the mainland, including full pages ads in magazines. I had poster even up in the offices of the convention center. Even banners hanging in the airport.
Well I just read an email that brought back a nightmare. 3 weeks before the show the convention center called me to tell me they made a mistake. They thought is was just a two day show that ended on the 26. I called and told them NO it is 3 days and went down there to talk to them. It ended up they had made a mistake and booked an event on Monday afternoon. Now I had already had everything ready to go for the three days. But now I have to change things and we had to be out by noon on Monday. So now I have to pay extra to pay the convention people to break down everything early. Well thats not all. I had to pay for the extra day since they only charged me for 2 days. I couldn't believe it. But they ended up charging my credit card an additional $6,000 the day before the event. It was a nightmare.
Hey Hank was wondering why are you on here. Have you competed or promoted a show or just a fan of muscles. Seriously, you have never had any serious input on any thread. You are obviously in love with Sean. Which is fine if you are into the girly type of short man. That's your preference. But, really other than that why are you here. By the way I have a life and a pretty damm good one. Overweight right now but still enjoying life. How about you? What is wrong with your life. Get it out here.
Dear Kieth ( aka onlyme), I have no idea about what went down with some business dealings with you and Shawn Ray, nor is it my business, nor do I care. So why am I even responding?
You seem like a reasonable guy, but very frustarted about some past dealing. If he really did you wrong you should have taken him (Shawn ) to court or made an official complaint to the IFBB, etc.
Sounds like you did promote some good shows on the Island, but don't any longer, for whatever reason.Obviously, you no longer are involved with Shawn in any official way, so why sweat it.
It also sounds like you have a decent happy life. In my humble opinion you should just let this whole thing go bye bye and enjoy life.
Shawn is just doing the best he can in the very unpredictable, wacky world of bodybuilding contests.
Sadly, Shawn did cross the line as well, by going on ad naseum about this and getting way too personal towards you.
Shawn should have simply said, that he is doing the best he can to promote a quality event and keep the $$$ issues in order as well , in response , instead of going on and on ....
I will just chalk that up as an internet feud over some old crap that got heated. I have been there , done that too.
I will tell everyone that is a pro or promoter, etc, that much of this inernet bickering crap that goes on between the pros and those running the shows, leaves a bad impression for the fans about our sport.
Even if you "win" the on line argument, the sport suffers another black eye.
Sincerely, Howard in Ga
As a Joe Blow fan, I simply look fwd to attending a good event and buy a good seat, etc.
Call Will Harris. And Dave do you really want to get into why you didn't get paid. My god I thought you would never want to mention it. And the check to Ryan was written by one of the sponsors and it bounced. For all I know they took care of it by now. And remember Dave there were allot of witness's to what you did at Pearl Harbor. And if I dig through my emails I can dig up the one where you said you would come over just for airfair and hotel. Remember you were the one who changed the terms after you arrived to where you wanted $600 for meal money for you and Collette. Really you should just let that one die cause it makes you look really bad. And don't forget the IFBB official who was witness to what you did at Pearl Harbor along with the others. I remember him telling me he was going to call Manion and tell him what happened and that you should be kicked out of the NPC for that. But I talked him out of it. So really let it go. I did. I like you and you put on a great show. But what you did there and to me was pretty bad. And by the way I even paid you $300 in cash for meal money which was still way more than anyone should get for 3 days plus you got the per diem. SO really Dave let it go.
hahahah, yea I am the one who discredited BB. Yep I did it!. YOU MORON! Now I see hwy you are so angry. DId you take last place in one of the dodgy BB pageants. Dude hang it up already, you're done.
I have never said anything bad about Dave on here. I read his stuff and go on cause I figured I didn't want to get into with him over what happened here. But, then out of the blue he comes up with this shit. Will Harris was paid 3 or 4 years ago. A friend of mine sponsored Ryan to come out to the show. Ryan was awesome and did everything. We took him to Maui and the Big Island and had a great time. He got paid something but ended up we owed him more. The guy Robert sent him a check and I heard it bounced. I talked to Ryan after and gave him the contact info for Robert and figured everything was good. Dave came over the first year for just airfare and hotel and per diem. He just wanted to come over. He was great. So he called me and asked to come the next year and voluteered the same deal. I flied him and Collette out. I think they went to Maui first. There was a problem with the hotel my friend put them up in or something but got a call from my friend telling me it was a nightmare. Dave got to Oahu and I paid him his per diem. Something came up where one of my guestposers could make it or something and then Dave all of a sudden wanted $600 food money for him and Collette. He asked the day before the show. He said he wouldn't guest pose unless I paid him. I was stuck. So I ended up giving him $300 cash. I told him I think really that was enough. Nobody get $600 meal money for 3 days. If I didn't give him what I did he wouldn't have showed up to the show. So thats the story and allot of people knew about him not charging and was doing it just for the airfare, hotel and per diem. The Pearl Harbor thing is a whole other story that I would rather not tell unless he wants to keep this up. The money thing is done between us. Or you can get it from Sean who owes me $600. There is your answer, get it from Sean. You see him all the time. I'll give you a 100% finders fee. You can keep it all.
said by an insider with an agenda ::) lets be perfectly honest
Milos would be a fool to enter an IFBB show at this time. It's plain to see they have a major issue with him and even if he shows up looking incredible no way would he be placed accordingly.
LOL, me an insider , wtf? ::) Were you refering to Keith and his agenda???
I judge a few NPC shows a year and am a fan of the pros.
I make my living as a high school teacher and have no financial interest in the sport.
I simply enjoy it and want the best for the sport, no more, no less.
denial is not a river in egypt.
fan of the pro's?...try zealotry
LOL, I don't know who you are, but this has gotta be a joke. It is kinda funny.
I really am a high school chemsitry and physics teacher. My only official involvement with bodybuilding is as an NPC amatuer judge ( 2-3 shows a yr) and don't take a judges fee anymore for any local Atlanta area show.
I go to a couple pro and national shows a year.
I am on record as advocate to stem the tide of entreme drug use prevelent in our sport.
Have a good one, Howard
it was a joke how LOL
Sgt. who are you? What is your purpose on this board?
I and many others who post here know what you are up to !
Back at the BUFFET LINE!
Keith, your remembered for yourlast failed attempt at Contest Promoting, you're intentions were good for the athletes but you Sucked as a Promoter!
That said, blame me because your "OVERPAID" me for appearing at your show as a "GUEST" I'll take the blame that I got paid what we mutually agreed upon before I left from Cali.
You're a Hater, that's cool and you wont be the last but dude, please GET A LIFE and quit with the Spider Bite Deal that was freaking 7 years ago and your STILL GAINING WEIGHT!
Try some Push aways, and turn the page on the CO PRO you wouldn't last 2 hrs in an airplane, the swelling you'd get from holding so much water wouldnt allow you to cross the Pacific to the main land.
Watch the show like you did last year online and put a sock in it!
Who's next? ;D
sgt d and hank wood BOTH seem to be aliases for people with beefs, without the balls to post their real identities.
they come here with the same 3-4 targets in mind and bash them nonstop.
Sgt. i think you are an interesting character. Reserve the hating for a more opportune moment.
As for Sean; well let's just say that he does not have a problem asserting himself!
Peace.
Oh Keith, it is time to let it go!
I dont hate or have any beef with anybody. :)
you're a jerkoff.
why, do you need to beat off to some pictures of cocks?
Keith is a CLOWN! His lies find him out:
1st- When I was at your show with Flex W and his wife and my then fiance' I had already been RETIRED! My last time as a Guest Poser onstage was in Okinowa, Japan in 2002!
Get your timeline stait fool!
I had no problem with the Military, that visit was your idea, I was there to sign pictures and shake hands not tour Hawaii, I had already been there a gazillion times before.
YOU decided as a promoter to take some Athletes to the Military deal, not me- we NEVER agreed on that you tried to include me last minute but I wasn't there for that you poor excuse of a man.
I visited many Military Bases and supported them my entire career because I did agree to go with you on your promotion puts me in some bad light? Please get over yourself.
I'm fat an happy at 218lbs, my contest weight was 215lbs!
Your lies are what make you a Spring board for Jokes amd yes FAT Jokes are there any other kind when referencing you.
Eatg up! ;D
Keith, you must man up and accept the responsibilty of your actions. Don't defer the issue to Shawn. Again this would be like asking a vendor to cover your payroll or having them go to one of your customers for payment. In business the buck must stop with you.
Keith is a CLOWN! His lies find him out:
1st- When I was at your show with Flex W and his wife and my then fiance' I had already been RETIRED! My last time as a Guest Poser onstage was in Okinowa, Japan in 2002!
Get your timeline stait fool!
I had no problem with the Military, that visit was your idea, I was there to sign pictures and shake hands not tour Hawaii, I had already been there a gazillion times before.
YOU decided as a promoter to take some Athletes to the Military deal, not me- we NEVER agreed on that you tried to include me last minute but I wasn't there for that you poor excuse of a man.I visited many Military Bases and supported them my entire career because I did agree to go with you on your promotion puts me in some bad light? Please get over yourself.
I'm fat an happy at 218lbs, my contest weight was 215lbs!
Your lies are what make you a Spring board for Jokes amd yes FAT Jokes are there any other kind when referencing you.Eatg up! ;D
Do you have any response for letting your so called sponsors pay instead of you taking responsibility for the action(s)?
wow, what a great, uplifting Christian person you are ::)
Whatever happened to turn the other cheek, Sean?
PS: from the photos Onlyme posted, you were a fat slob. :-*
I love his comeback when I posted this pic. He said it was 5 weeks out from the Olympia and he took 5th place. That really shows allot of dedication and pride in BB. He has been loser for so long he is proud to take 5th place. And who cares if its the Olympia. It's still 5th placeAre you saying that fat slob pic of Sean is 5 weeks out????? :-\
Are you saying that fat slob pic of Sean is 5 weeks out????? :-\
How much dope did he have to do to get contest ready in 5 weeks????
That is scary.
Yea my response is it was the sponsor who wanted him out here ad agreed to pay him. If he didn't get paid then I am pretty sure he'd tell me. See unlike your friend Sean I answer all the questions. Sean answers the ones he chooses. See I am a man and can take the crossfire. He is pussy and hides. Big difference. He didn't even man up when he bounced 9 checks. He ad Chic come on here and make up that the bank made a mistake ::) When asked to scan and post the original letter no more responses from Chic or Sean. See big difference. So you can stop trying to make me look bad cause you are losing the battle.
hahaha Sean is as much a born again Christian as I am anorexic. He plays that shit so people will forgive him for all the crap in the past. To bad in the real world it doesn't work that way. And I bet no priest or any other person recognizes him as a born again Christian. They would disown him in a minute.
I love his comeback when I posted this pic. He said it was 5 weeks out from the Olympia and he took 5th place. That really shows allot of dedication and pride in BB. He has been loser for so long he is proud to take 5th place. And who cares if its the Olympia. It's still 5th place
If I recall thats what he said. But I am sure he'll come here and say it was 4 months or some off the wall number. It could be also that he just ran out of drugs for that show.
If I recall thats what he said. But I am sure he'll come here and say it was 4 months or some off the wall number. It could be also that he just ran out of drugs for that show.
How convenient that Chick and texasbubba show up at the same time ::)
Qurious as to what your best placement at any pro show has been? Remember, glass houses shatter when fired upon.
Been here for a while. How convenient you and Onlyme are here at the same time...Let's stop the bashing and talk BB.how can we talk bodybuilding when you act like you know everything about everybody but refuse to ID yourself. You can't be taken seriously.
Hey Texas take a look at the History Board where I am a Mod. There you will see and read how I really am. I keep that board clean and real and about this industry. He is out of control and just a bunch of shit-slinging. I have been in the industry since the late 70's so really my dedication and passion should never be put in question.
Keith your rambling obsession with me is not only funny but boarderline compulsive.
This thread is dead and so is Onlyme ::)
It's because their stories are full of holes...isn't it obvious? How many times have I called Sgt. d, telletubby and shawn out on their mudslinging and non-answer tactics (rhetorical -- for you three)?
Shawn wasn't even supposed to guest pose at that show...he filled in at the last minute.
Enough Keith....
And your responses make your Christ like? If you live in a glass house don't throw stones. WWJD?
Keith, your dedication and passion for this so-called sport has never been questioned. I think all on here agree that, you are a true-supporter of bodybuilding.
The 'real' issue is your 'credibility' in regards to your recollection of events!
You seem to have selective-memory when it comes to Sean and his dealings with you.
Keith, your anger and bitterness has twisted the truth. You cant be trusted anymore. This anger you harbour toward Sean, has clouded and confused everything in your life. No one in their right mind would want someone like you to promote their show!
Keith, you have become a rambling and ranting moron.
It is time to let the 'Sean thing' go!
Peace.
Please tell me where I am missing something. ANd Sean (since this is you) I want you to disprove the things I have said. Did you or did you not run the bill at the hotel over $600 and never paid. Yes or no. Did you or did you not cause a disturbance in the lobby of one of the most prestigious hotels in Hawaii and embarrass my friend. Yes or no did you say "I am to fat to go on stage" when I told you to go up and pose with the rest of the guys. You were ever suppose to guest pose. I never once said that. You were suppose to do the mass posedown like everyone else or are you to special.
KEITH, how about making good on the CHECKS YOU BOUNCED as payment to Will Harris, Ryan Knealy, and myself for appearing at your ALOHA CLASSIC in 2003? That's the reason you'll never promote another NPC show.
Call Will Harris. And Dave do you really want to get into why you didn't get paid. My god I thought you would never want to mention it. And the check to Ryan was written by one of the sponsors and it bounced. For all I know they took care of it by now. And remember Dave there were allot of witness's to what you did at Pearl Harbor. And if I dig through my emails I can dig up the one where you said you would come over just for airfair and hotel. Remember you were the one who changed the terms after you arrived to where you wanted $600 for meal money for you and Collette. Really you should just let that one die cause it makes you look really bad. And don't forget the IFBB official who was witness to what you did at Pearl Harbor along with the others. I remember him telling me he was going to call Manion and tell him what happened and that you should be kicked out of the NPC for that. But I talked him out of it. So really let it go. I did. I like you and you put on a great show. But what you did there and to me was pretty bad. And by the way I even paid you $300 in cash for meal money which was still way more than anyone should get for 3 days plus you got the per diem. SO really Dave let it go.
KEITH, I find it funny how JIM MANION told me you'll never promote another NPC show.........and it's also funny how after doing over 200 guest posings over the last 10 years, I've never had a problem with any other promoter. And the reason for that is........NOT THE MONEY..........because I don't need your money........it's the lack of respect you showed for the ONLY TWO GUEST POSERS (Colette and myself) who showed up for your show. You didn't even provide a ride from my fleabag hotel you put us in. That just shows your lack of respect for me.........which is a reflection of your lack of respect for yourself. I've spoke my peace. All the pros who've dealt with you know what you're about. I feel sorry for you. Feel free to go on a tirade of rationalization now so that you can somehow feel justified for what you did. Not to forget; the most classic line of the weekend utterred by you in response to my explaining my food requirements, "WHAT KINND OF A PERSON EATS 6 MEALS A DAY?".......
You act like shawn did something to people in your family. Let it go
If it happen, it happen. If it didnt, then oh well. Its not that serious
You act like shawn did something to people in your family. Let it go
If it happen, it happen. If it didnt, then oh well. Its not that serious
Please tell me where I am missing something. ANd Sean (since this is you) I want you to disprove the things I have said. Did you or did you not run the bill at the hotel over $600 and never paid. Yes or no. Did you or did you not cause a disturbance in the lobby of one of the most prestigious hotels in Hawaii and embarrass my friend. Yes or no did you say "I am to fat to go on stage" when I told you to go up and pose with the rest of the guys. You were ever suppose to guest pose. I never once said that. You were suppose to do the mass posedown like everyone else or are you to special.
Keith, Sean has made it quite clear where he stands on these issues!
It is you Keith who needs to deal with the realities of this.
Your mind has become clouded and the events you describe are distorted with confused detail.
I was wondering were you there. Were you standing next to me when the manager of the Kahala Mandarin told me what happened and that he paid for the extra cost out of his own pocket and I said no way you did him a favor I will pay for it cause it was my rrequest. Please tell me where you were standing so I can picture who you were. I am not distorted at all. I may forget somethings or mix them up but I am pretty right on in these cases. especially since we talk about them so much. Yes Sean has made it quite clear. I am just another sucker who bought his bullshit. He is right about that. My bad.
LOL, you flinched Keith and you have finally been caught out! Y
You state in the post that; '' i may forget somethings or mix them up.....'' My arguments are validated and it is all thanks to you!
It is time to stop the misinformation Keith. Go back to your donut chomping.
You signed your death certificate with that post! It is proven once and for all, that you indeed are devoid of all credibility!
Peace.
Nice try. Why did you stop at those words. Did you read the rest of the sentance Sean. "I may forget somethings or mix them up but I am pretty right on in these cases." And when I say I mix things up it is with numbers or dates most of the time Sean. I don't remember what year I have done things or times sometimes. I just don't pay attention. But things like this that is easily to remember are right on. The more I talk about them the more I can remember and write down. But hey good try Sean. No you still look like shit to most people and yes you are still a yellow coward. Sorry
HAHAHA. There you go again! You are digging an even deeper hole for yourself now Keith!
Now in this post you state; ''The more i talk about them the more i can remember....''
Translated; the more i rehash the Sean-stories in my head the more convoluted and farcical they become!
Have you heard of the game 'Chinese Whispers' Keith? Well, you are the living embodiment of it!
Peace.
Quit pretending like you know shit Chic. I never said he was suppose to guest pose. He was suppose to be in the mass posedown where every other pro in attendance and others went up on stage and posed with all the competitors. Hell even Flex went up and took his shirt off and he was in pretty bad shape but he kept his word. You look dumber and dumber when you stick your nose into things you know nothing about.
Remember when you called me wanting to come over and I told you I didn't have the money to bring more. Then you called me to tell me Fux can't come cause he got hurt and Mattarazzo can't come. You literally told me the day it happened. You begged me to come over since those two guys couldn't. I remember calling Mike and telling him that someone called to tell me he got hurt and couldn't come over. He was so pissed off at whoever told me. He kept asking me who it was cause he was so mad. I never told him. But its interesting how quick you decided to tell me they were hurt so I could bring you over. But I wish I had brought you over instead of Sean. Should brought you over instead off Boeving too. You need to let Sean fight his own battles. What kind of yellow pussy is he. When he is caught lying so much he gives up and hides. What a man that guy is.
Were talking about two different things, big man...
I'm talking about that picture of Shawn you keep posting over and over...calling him fat.
And if I dig through my emails I can dig up the one where you said you would come over just for airfair and hotel. Remember you were the one who changed the terms after you arrived to where you wanted $600 for meal money for you and Collette.
Is this true, Dave? I can't stand people who try to re-negotiate things after a contract has already been agreed to. If in fact you agreed to guest pose in exchange for airfare and hotel, you shouldn't have tried to jack Keith up for meals and transportation once you got there. If you felt these things were important, you should have gotten them included in the agreement before you signed on the dotted line or accepted his airline tickets. He was under no obligation to provide things that were not explicit parts of your original agreement.
Lots of vitriolic angst on this thread.
Fellas, lets let bygones be bygones.
Whatever happened between Milos/Shawn, Shawn/Keith, it occured in the past. This post is about the possibility of Milos competing in Shawn's show. I, like a lot of other people here, are anxious to see how Milos would do against a lot of younger competitors. Many of whom are his disciples. Why is it we can never stay on topic, and it always has to degenerate into a "you screwed me, you're fat, you failed, etc..."
Keith attempted something in Hawaii that never has happened and prolly never will. A show so huge, so encompassing, that it would have been like a mini Arnold. At the time, I was the GM of Gold's Gym, and we lent as much support to it as I was allowed by corporate. Whether he went off as planned, or whether it was as successful as intended is not in question. At least he had the GUTS to attempt to do somthing that has never been done. That being said, Keith, as a promoter who didn't have things happen as well as you envisioned, you shouldn't be throwing stones at others who are attempting the same. Heck, the reason we are here is we enjoy bodybuilding as a hobby and all of us want it's success.
So can we stay on topic. Shawn already answered the reason why I clicked on this thread. So if not Colorado, when, Milos? You seem to be in shape year round, it would be great to see you in action again. You've made a lot of progress from when I first met you YEARS ago at Frogs in SD.
Keith your rambling obsession with me is not only funny but boarderline compulsive.
You can't post without having my name on your mind and in your head.
Let it go, the way you did with your weight, you'll feel better.
The Fat Guest Posing picture was taken in July of 99, I placed 5th after the photo in the Olympia which was October back then, do the math!
That said, as you so elequantly like to distort the facts. The Military will be in FULL Force once again in CO with the help of Jeff Conrad, the guy you implied I screwed over. Well I guess he liked it as he is back and we are giving the Military Comp Tickets for their service to the country like they do at the Olympia.
You have the floor now and then some, it wont change the fact that your promoting days are over and so is seeing your feet while standing. :o
With some help you maybe able to stand up again and see those toes but only after years of Push away's. ;D
This thread is dead and so is Onlyme ::)
no wonder christians are hated so much
You really need to understand something. I never said I am a born again Christian or anything. I don't pretend at all. I say what I say. Sean pretends. I don't. He is a weak little man who can't fight his own fights or debate on his own. He's quite a girly man. Hope his show does great though.
The thing when Sean mentions the military got me too. I set him up last year with Jeff Conrad who is the nicest guy in the world and 110% military (Navy). Jeff has marketed allot of military events. Jeff is like me and stays in contact with the people he works for. He ended up calling me one day cause he was trying to get ahold of Sean after Sean didn't show up to a meeting/lunch with Jeff and had some things to go over and the biggest thing was he as getting a transfer to Guantanamo Bay for about 6 months. He wanted to tell Sean who was going to take his place. Will finally I guess they finally got together but some things were screwed up with the military booth location ad some other shit I can't remember but it didn't go down very well. Now Sean says Jeff is coming, so I contacted Jeff and he said he is going back to help Sean. Jeff does this cause he can't say no and he will do anything for the military. I just hope it goes better for Jeff this year. He is to good a guy to get screwed again.
By the way, I am pretty certain Sean is as much a Christian as I am anorexic. But hey I hope he has a great show
dude....I can't figure out where your sentences start & end
they don't make a lot of sense
:-\
dude....I can't figure out where your sentences start & end
they don't make a lot of sense
Lay off of sgt. d. >:( That was his first attempt at a longer-than-2-phrase-post.
So he blew it on his first try, he'll do better next time.
so are you a christian?
Keith, has never made a lot of sense!
His posts follow no logical structure. He rambles on and on, making little sense most of the time.
His recollection of past events is dubious and inaccurate.
Keith's irrational hatred of Sean has clouded the truth!
I hope that Keith one day finds a more purposeful way to deal with all his pent up anger.
I and everyone else understands that Keith has many regrets. His successes have been few and far between. Coming on here though, and attacking Sean is only making him even more bitter and twisted than he already is!
Peace.
hahaha heymoronSean, you already exposed yourself yesterday. What kind of srugs are you taking nowadays. How many accounts do yo have.
Nope never said I was. I don't bullshit like Sean. He thinks all is forgiven when you are a born again Christian. Not even close
Another reason for prozac keith, it will help you not think of all the wonderful things you do for people. ::)
I stayed at the kahala Manndrin Last Month and the manager welcomed me BACK!
Seems like he licked getting "STIFFED" from 4 years ago according to you, I even got my Hotel Room Upgraded for FREE!
Seems like I'm making enemies everywhere I go and they keep coming back to help a brotha out.
Jeff from the Military works hard for us and them, he wasn't able to make it last year and is very excited about this year! I guess that's because of how crappy he was treated lastyear huh Keith?
Your a clown and you continue to make me laugh at the fact that being Fat is not a bad thing, you should be rolling out the Red Carpet for me instead of belittling me!
Did I just say that ;D
Keith, i once recall from a political science lecture the following; ' If you continue to repeat the same lie, over and over again, it will become recognised for being the truth'.
Keith, you continue to repeat the same lies about Sean and his alleged misappropriations!
Is your intention Keith, that these lies you tell will eventually be accepted as truth!
Bottom line Keith, you are a disgrace to the industry, your family and your wretched self!
hahaha You must look in the mirror everyday and think this. Like I said Seanny, point out one of those things I said about you and tell us it is a lie. Yu have dodged this question about a hundred times. Be man for once. Are you such a pussy you can't be a man and own up to all the shit you have pulled. Come on girly man own up. I have never once said I am part of this industry. I have been involved with it for more than 25 years but I am not a part of it. YOU ARE, and YOU ARE the disgrace. And EVERYONE knows how you have disgraced your family. No one can deny that, not even you. You are so used to bullshitting people to get what yo want (for only you) you have become delusional. Be a man for once. O and have great showit aint in his genetics
Shawn, did you really let your mom take the fall for drugs?????
He won't answer that. Anything true he doesn't have an answer for or he'll make up a good excuse or one-liner. Maybe he is in church right now. If he is in confession, it might be a long while till he gets back here.
Keith, has never made a lot of sense!
His posts follow no logical structure. He rambles on and on, making little sense most of the time.
His recollection of past events is dubious and inaccurate.
Keith's irrational hatred of Sean has clouded the truth!
I hope that Keith one day finds a more purposeful way to deal with all his pent up anger.
I and everyone else understands that Keith has many regrets. His successes have been few and far between. Coming on here though, and attacking Sean is only making him even more bitter and twisted than he already is!
Peace.
Okay. Shawn do you really love trannies like:
"Honkeywood" "Texasblubber" and "Mrs D"??????????
say you dont crave the tubesteak...please. :-[
Nice post Hank. If Keith would let his personal feelings go and work as hard on the positives as he does the negative we may all value his opinion more. Problem is Keith only nags and offers no real solutions.
So true!
Keith's negativity is spiralling out of control! His fixation with Sean has grown to mountainous proportions. Quite frankly, it appears that Keith is teetering on the edge of insanity!
I appeal to you Keith; do not go the way of self-harm! Let your Sean-obsession go! And finally, come clean on all the lies you have told about him!
Peace.
Sean you are funnier and funnier. Do you honestly not know that everyone who has any brain knows this is you. Are you truly this stupid. I love it. ;D
Keith, dude get a grip on reality. Not every poster is Shawn. Seek counseling this is becoming to great for you to manage. Let it go. Pray my friend, pray.
Okay. Shawn do you really love trannies like:
"Honkeywood" "Texasblubber" and "Mrs D"??????????
say you dont crave the tubesteak...please. :-[
I think hank wood is Shawn, though.
Don't know, but not everybody can be Shawn. Hell Keith sees Shawn in shadows, clouds, dreams...where does this infactuation end?it's infatuation.
Sean you are funnier and funnier. Do you honestly not know that everyone who has any brain knows this is you. Are you truly this stupid. I love it. ;D
I think hank wood is Shawn, though.
Don't know, but not everybody can be Shawn. Hell Keith sees Shawn in shadows, clouds, dreams...where does this infactuation end?
100% guaranteed he is. If not it is a friend's computer and he is using it or telling the guy what to guy. Way to many similarities.
No actually I only see Sean after I take a shit and look at what came out. It always seems to either look like Sean or Goodrum
100% guaranteed he is. If not it is a friend's computer and he is using it or telling the guy what to guy. Way to many similarities.
No actually I only see Sean after I take a shit and look at what came out. It always seems to either look like Sean or Goodrum
Come on Keith, you believe ever poster who sais something about you or rebuts one of your post is Shawn, right?
Now back to being Christ like, when exactly did God contact you and ask you to judge others? Did St. Peter get a termination notice?
I don't think you are Sean. But I am pretty sure most if not everyone can see wood is Sean. Not hard to figure out. But hey you know everything.
War-Pony, there you go with the whole gay thing. This is not a board for internet homos. Your infactuation with trannies and tubestake need to be posted on a pay-for-gay site, which I understand you have done several posting and appearances on. This is a straight board. Run along "Princess."
Gawd, you are lame at owning. quoting my own words about you and evading questions.........So you troll the gay boards to shawn.... :-X
At least bob can be original.....
War-Pony or buttboy, which ever you prefer. I am not trying to own you, I told you I don't swing that way. Go back to doing you pay-for-gay.
Keith, i understand that i have opened up an old-wound. OK, i did call-you-out for being capable of self-harm! But let me make it clear, it is not worth it Keith! Not for Sean, not for anyone!it's LIAR goddamnit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The fact is, i do not want to see you taking these dramatic steps Keith! I acknowledge your torment over Sean. Yes, your fixation with him is borderline sociopathic. But please Keith, let it go.
This board does not need the tragedy of you taking your own life, to prove something that has always been false to begin with. I will say it again; ''Sean is not a lyer''.
Please Keith, you need to deal with your psychosis! Your mind has become diseased over your obsession with Sean!
Peace.
Keith, i understand that i have opened up an old-wound. OK, i did call-you-out for being capable of self-harm! But let me make it clear, it is not worth it Keith! Not for Sean, not for anyone!
The fact is, i do not want to see you taking these dramatic steps Keith! I acknowledge your torment over Sean. Yes, your fixation with him is borderline sociopathic. But please Keith, let it go.
This board does not need the tragedy of you taking your own life, to prove something that has always been false to begin with. I will say it again; ''Sean is not a lyer''.
Please Keith, you need to deal with your psychosis! Your mind has become diseased over your obsession with Sean!
Peace.
That is your answer for everything Keith. You are certainly no intellectual match for me!
Peace.
PS you are the lyer here! Come clean!
That is your answer for everything Keith. You are certainly no intellectual match for me!
Peace.
PS you are the lyer here! Come clean!
That is your answer for everything Keith. You are certainly no intellectual match for me!goddamn it hank didn't you read my fuckin post?????????? >:( >:(
Peace.
PS you are the lyer here! Come clean!
That is your answer for everything Keith. You are certainly no intellectual match for me!
Peace.
PS you are the lyer here! Come clean!
Sean Sean Sean, you make me laugh so hard. Thank god my intelligence is higher than yours, I'd hate to be at your level, so you are right with that remark. But, like I said and many people are reading, of this statements I listed what I said about you, which ones are lies. You are still avoiding it. Why? Oh, did you go to church today or just pretend like always. You boy are a tool, and a dull one at that.
Keith, you are hurting, aren't you?doubt that ::) and you spelled your own name wrong on purpose...how cute.
Sean has hijacked your reality.
Your fixation on this individual and his achievements, have you living in torment!
Sean lives large with a clean conscience. You are the one living in denial.
Keith, you have become emaciated with fear and loathing. Sean is at peace with himself and the world around him!
Peace.
PS Keith, you are such a lyer!
Keith, you a toxic cocktail, so full of hate and bitterness!hank I'm worried about your obsession with onlyme's obsession. Maybe you should get therapy before you hurt yourself, or someone dear to you. You are a frightening person hank, you need help.
Your continued attacks on the industries most prolific Pro Bodybuilder has become tiresome. You fail to back up any of your allegations. And by you own admissions, have questioned you 'own' recollection of past events!
Keith, turn that hatred into positivity,so as to help overcome your state-of-obesity! Use that anger to deal with your weight and self esteem issues!
Peace.
PS Sean is not a lyer, you are!
hank I'm worried about your obsession with onlyme's obsession. Maybe you should get therapy before you hurt yourself, or someone dear to you. You are a frightening person hank, you need help.
Your obsession with onlymes obsession has you spiraling out of control, seek out the Lord hank and redeem yourself. Log off getbig and never come back, I know it's hard hank but you can do it..
The red x at the upper right hand corner............do it hank.........do it and never look back..........it's the only way :'(
Keith, you have seen the error of your ways, finally! Your attempts to destroy Sean's credibility has failed.
It is you Keith who has ended up looking sad and pathetic!
Peace.
PS As a final step in dealing with your Sean-Hate-Campaign, it is time to apologise...That's right, apologise for calling Sean a LYER
Keith, you have seen the error of your ways, finally! Your attempts to destroy Sean's credibility has failed.
It is you Keith who has ended up looking sad and pathetic!
Peace.
PS As a final step in dealing with your Sean-Hate-Campaign, it is time to apologise...That's right, apologise for calling Sean a LYER
Keith, you have seen the error of your ways, finally! Your attempts to destroy Sean's credibility has failed.have you not read my posts, idiot?
It is you Keith who has ended up looking sad and pathetic!
Peace.
PS As a final step in dealing with your Sean-Hate-Campaign, it is time to apologise...That's right, apologise for calling Sean a LYER
This war horse dude is annoying. Just because I dont dislike shawn, you think i am him? Damn you are so fucking stupid. Cut both of your hands off, so we cant see ignorant post from you ever again.
A moniker that couldn't be more fitting; Keith the Lyer
Hahahaha.....You have been caught out once again Keith. You pathetic, obese, moustached and lonely nobody!
PS. Keith do not go down the path of 'self harm'. Hating Sean is one thing, but taking your life over him (because of your unresolved obsession) is crazy.
An intervention is needed. Keith is teetering on the edge of insanity. Sean has driven him to lunacy!
Sean I am beginning to really like you as Hank. I mean how much better is it that you act stupid under another name other than your own. I love it you are a genius. Sean can you answer how many checks you will bounce at this years show. I feel so honored as to make a once lovable girly man break like this. You are funny boy. DO you wear panties. Man what a sunset, better go outside sit by my pool and watch it. Got make a protein shake first though.
Hank, you are inebriated with the exuberance of your own verbosity! You are empowered by delusions of grandeur.Dude, seriously, you're going to drive hank to suicide. I'm trying to be nice and get him some help, you're trying to get him to hang himself ;D
You are consumed by your own inadequacies! You failed at bodybuilding competition. Failed at promotion. Failed as husband, as a son. Hank, you are a failure!
Hank you are a vile creature. Your life is in tatters. Celebrate your life Hank! Peace!
Keith, i have warned you, there will be consequences for your actions!
This Sean-hate-campaign you have been running, is going to come back and haunt you!
Peace.
KEITH, how about making good on the CHECKS YOU BOUNCED as payment to Will Harris, Ryan Knealy, and myself for appearing at your ALOHA CLASSIC in 2003? That's the reason you'll never promote another NPC show.
Call Will Harris. And Dave do you really want to get into why you didn't get paid. My god I thought you would never want to mention it. And the check to Ryan was written by one of the sponsors and it bounced. For all I know they took care of it by now. And remember Dave there were allot of witness's to what you did at Pearl Harbor. And if I dig through my emails I can dig up the one where you said you would come over just for airfair and hotel. Remember you were the one who changed the terms after you arrived to where you wanted $600 for meal money for you and Collette. Really you should just let that one die cause it makes you look really bad. And don't forget the IFBB official who was witness to what you did at Pearl Harbor along with the others. I remember him telling me he was going to call Manion and tell him what happened and that you should be kicked out of the NPC for that. But I talked him out of it. So really let it go. I did. I like you and you put on a great show. But what you did there and to me was pretty bad. And by the way I even paid you $300 in cash for meal money which was still way more than anyone should get for 3 days plus you got the per diem. SO really Dave let it go.
KEITH, I find it funny how JIM MANION told me you'll never promote another NPC show.........and it's also funny how after doing over 200 guest posings over the last 10 years, I've never had a problem with any other promoter. And the reason for that is........NOT THE MONEY..........because I don't need your money........it's the lack of respect you showed for the ONLY TWO GUEST POSERS (Colette and myself) who showed up for your show. You didn't even provide a ride from my fleabag hotel you put us in. That just shows your lack of respect for me.........which is a reflection of your lack of respect for yourself. I've spoke my peace. All the pros who've dealt with you know what you're about. I feel sorry for you. Feel free to go on a tirade of rationalization now so that you can somehow feel justified for what you did. Not to forget; the most classic line of the weekend utterred by you in response to my explaining my food requirements, "WHAT KINND OF A PERSON EATS 6 MEALS A DAY?".......
Sean are you sad baby. You should just go run along and stick your head up your ass. You are so good at it I bet you can do it with no hands. Poor baby. Hope your show goes better than your life. Of course that wouldn't be hard to do.
Keith, you wont be getting off this one! You have made your bed.........
You have made some serious allegations regarding Sean and his dealings.
You have been warned, there will be consequences for this anti-Sean-campaign you have maliciously orchestrated!
Keith, you have gone to far with the lies about Sean and his private life.
Your time is coming Keith, your time is coming!
Sean do you need tissue. Do you need a shoulder to cry on. Are you losing sleep over finally realizing what kind ofmanboy you are. Like I said point out where I have lied. Telling the truth is not illegal. Sorry boy.
You aren't going to tell Manion to suspend me are you. Are you calling the DEA on me too. Are you going to have me thrown out of the Colorado Pro (whoops not going). Maybe at the Olympia you can come up and kick me in the ankle.
Dude you have melted down as far as you can go. You are excused now. hahahah
Hank, you are inebriated with the exuberance of your own verbosity! You are empowered by delusions of grandeur.hahaahhaahahah ;D.this post is crazy. ;D
You are consumed by your own inadequacies! You failed at bodybuilding competition. Failed at promotion. Failed as husband, as a son. Hank, you are a failure!
Hank you are a vile creature. Your life is in tatters. Celebrate your life Hank! Peace!
Hahhahhahaahha...
Keith your campaign of hate and lies has failed! Sean walks tall while you rot in your stinking apartment.
You are alone with your misery and loathing while Sean continues to bask in the glory bodybuilding-immortality.
Keith, you must feel abandoned by this industry. Not one Pro has jumped to your defense!
Keith, it is now time to retract back into your hole from whence you came.
Peace.
PS. Keith, It must be very painful for you to be now acknowledged as, Getbig's-Bold-Faced-Lyer!
In bold. That is technically impossible. ;D
Your post is a "Massive attempt of nothing" 99% here side with Keith.....not that we care anyway.. ;)
Hahhahhahaahha...
Keith your campaign of hate and lies has failed! Sean walks tall while you rot in your stinking apartment.
You are alone with your misery and loathing while Sean continues to bask in the glory bodybuilding-immortality.
Keith, you must feel abandoned by this industry. Not one Pro has jumped to your defense!
Keith, it is now time to retract back into your hole from whence you came.
Peace.
PS. Keith, It must be very painful for you to be now acknowledged as, Getbig's-Bold-Faced-Lyer!
Your stastical abilities are amazing. How do you do this without an on-line poll? Since you are so good, what percentage people on this board will vote for Hillary Clinton? You are an absolute genius...for a pole smoker.
Sean melting again. This is fun. I love this. So many pros have come on here supporting you I can't believe it. When are you going to realize you are the joke and we are all laughing at you. And exactly how "tall" are you walking these days. At least you can joke about yourself.
Texas why are you still around. Nobody likes you.
Not here for a popularity contest. I am here because assholes like you need to be put in check. Why are you still here? Shouldn't you seek medical help for the spider bite? We have cured cancer and kept aids patients alive, but your saying the medical community can't solve the issues with you phenominal weight gain related to a spider bite? Dude, come on.
BORING. get a job dipshit. you don't belong here.
Keith, two words for you: JENNY CRAIG!
Blubber: two words; kill yourself
Your stastical abilities are amazing. How do you do this without an on-line poll? Since you are so good, what percentage people on this board will vote for Hillary Clinton? You are an absolute genius...for a pole smoker.
Your stastical abilities are amazing. How do you do this without an on-line poll? Since you are so good, what percentage people on this board will vote for Hillary Clinton? You are an absolute genius...for a pole smoker.
Your stastical abilities are amazing. How do you do this without an on-line poll? Since you are so good, what percentage people on this board will vote for Hillary Clinton? You are an absolute genius...for a pole smoker.
I have 5K in the Colorado, thank you. How much you got? ZERO...spending it all on food. The freighter is leaving the Port of Hilo this afternoon are you taking me up on the offer?
He PM'ed every single getbiger (except you, because you're a douche) and asked their opinion. He then tabulated the results.
onlyme, when the year started and you had the medical issues, you made several post stating that this is the year to get in shape. And that your health is important to you..sounded like you were crying while typing the post.et tu, SteelePegasus? :-\
what is your progress on bringing down the BF?