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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: MAXX on July 17, 2007, 01:32:12 PM
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Has anyone seen his video?
want a review.
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If this were bodybuildingdungeon.com I would say shit like awesome guns or what a power house. Since it's not that guy sucks!!
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His show on bodybuilding.com is pretty good. He was also in "Prime Cuts: Volume 1":
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/primecutsvolume1dvd.html
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His show on bodybuilding.com is pretty good. He was also in "Prime Cuts: Volume 1":
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/primecutsvolume1dvd.html
it's for free at bodybuilding.com?
give a link then :)
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it's for free at bodybuilding.com?
give a link then :)
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/insidethelife0.htm (http://www.jdoqocy.com/click-1881271-10409943?url=http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/insidethelife0.htm)
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who the fuck would want to see him workout ..... he looks like a weekend warrior
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i will give him the fact that he puts a 110% into bodybuilding. but man, this dude has such shitty genetics for putting on mass. like...the worst ive ever seen.
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i will give him the fact that he puts a 110% into bodybuilding. but man, this dude has such shitty genetics for putting on mass. like...the worst ive ever seen.
Nope. Assuming he is natural he is actually quite impressive IMO. Very good for a natural. He gets really ripped too. Not the best structure though.
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no he is not. this guy is working out every day and eating/living like a professional bodybuilder. and has been doign so for YEARS! since he was like 16. he would be impressive for a natural that had been tlifting for two years. not 6, or whatever he is at now.
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no he is not. this guy is working out every day and eating/living like a professional bodybuilder. and has been doign so for YEARS! since he was like 16. he would be impressive for a natural that had been tlifting for two years. not 6, or whatever he is at now.
He does not have the worst genetics ever or the worst genetics you or anyone has seen. He doesn't have the best either but IMO he is above average. Especially arms. He has a way above average build for a natural, period. Please show me the scores of naturals who've been training for 2 years who are way beyond his development.
You call this the worst genetics ever?
(http://www.biolayne.com/Bio%20Layne%20Web%20Gallery/Albums/Album6/Large/side_chest1.jpg)
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he would be IMPRESSIVE for two years training.
he has been training for much longer. and his arms are weak. his biceps are decent...lacks tris/ and overall size.
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he would be IMPRESSIVE for two years training.
he has been training for much longer. and his arms are weak. his biceps are decent...lacks tris/ and overall size.
OK.
If Layne's genetics are the worst you've seen how would you rate your genetics? Would you beat Layne in that pic if you put everything into bodybuilding in the next two years?
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i certainly would be alot bigger than layne if i train as consistently as he has for as long as he has.
but youll notice i was only referring to his genetics for putting on mass. he is in much better condition than i have ever been in. and he MAY have better structure than myself; i am not sure as to my own structure. it looks decent at 14% bf..but idk about once it gets lower.
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i certainly would be alot bigger than layne if i train as consistently as he has for as long as he has.
Don't be so sure. I saw your recent pics and it might not be possible for you to reach Layne's level naturally. JMHO.
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i certainly would be alot bigger than layne if i train as consistently as he has for as long as he has.
but youll notice i was only referring to his genetics for putting on mass. he is in much better condition than i have ever been in. and he MAY have better structure than myself; i am not sure as to my own structure. it looks decent at 14% bf..but idk about once it gets lower.
i'll file you with the other 10 billion people that shoulda, coulda, woulda ::)
and hope this helps.
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i will give him the fact that he puts a 110% into bodybuilding. but man, this dude has such shitty genetics for putting on mass. like...the worst ive ever seen.
OK... dumbest thing ever beeing said on getbig ::) ::)
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i certainly would be alot bigger than layne if i train as consistently as he has for as long as he has.
but youll notice i was only referring to his genetics for putting on mass. he is in much better condition than i have ever been in. and he MAY have better structure than myself; i am not sure as to my own structure. it looks decent at 14% bf..but idk about once it gets lower.
LOL...classic answer
you are a total douche
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i'll file you with the other 10 billion people that shoulda, coulda, woulda ::)
and hope this helps.
;D
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no he is not. this guy is working out every day and eating/living like a professional bodybuilder. and has been doign so for YEARS! since he was like 16. he would be impressive for a natural that had been tlifting for two years. not 6, or whatever he is at now.
::)..... Lets see some of your pictures so we can see how much of a monster you are. Ohh brother....
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layne's fine. he does not have the "worst genetics ever"...he's natural and has gotten his contest prep down to a point, that side chest that was posted above is pretty damn awsome for a natty guy. Give credit where credit is due, he looks really good and helps alot of people out. Seems like a really good guy.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA a "natural" "pro"
Who the hell wants to look at these small slin/hgh clowns?
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i will give him the fact that he puts a 110% into bodybuilding. but man, this dude has such shitty genetics for putting on mass. like...the worst ive ever seen.
Dude, you looked like a botched-up abortion in your YouTube video, so STFU about guys whose used jockstrap you can't bid for in a 'gays only' auction ;D
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Kid gets way too much hype and his arrogance kills me. Thinks everything in bodybuildling is science, when there is so many variables that make thing happen.
Has good geneticss to get to low bodyfat levels, unfortunately, it is with little muscle. Seems pretty strong, must have good tendons and ligaments.
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Yes i do agree a bit over rated. And he does seem a bit arrogant.
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Layne doesn't have the best structure, but to say he has shitty genetics is just dumb.
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layne should seriously get JRod on his show
btw whos the other guy on his show, he looks a lot smaller then layne, but he still won his first pro show
anyone have competition pics of him? His conditioning must have been amazing for a guy his size to win
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Has anyone seen his video?
want a review.
just watched the youtube trailer.
he sounds quite level headed and appears to have a good attitude, but he just seems to be trying too hard to say the right things and somewhat contradicts himself.
he intially says, "i want to be the best natural pro bber in the world." i'm thinking fair enough, like every athlete he is competitive and looking at the top of his game.
then, when referring to 'untested' bbing, he says, "i don't want to compete with them. i just want a piece of the pie." or words to that effect.
thing is, i can't see a guy that really wants to be the 'best natural pro bber' not doing EVERYTHING he can to be the best at his game.
this guy is a professional athlete. it is his livelihood. he is obviously competing with guys that WILL do everything they can to bend the rules without blowing the test ie gh, insulin, androgens they haven't found a test for yet, t3, clen, ephed, whatever.
a professional athlete does not know limits. he/she will absolutely do everything they can to reach the top. no point saying, "oh, he's a nice well rounded guy. he'd never do that." BULLSHIT. a human pro athlete is a narcisist with a one track mind. if he even imagines that his competitors are breaking the rules, well, now you see he wouldn't be at that point in the first place because those kind of guys think too much and too late and don't get anywhere near the top.
he does look natural training and posing in the gym, but he doesn't need to bring it at that point so who gives a fuck. besides, he'd want to keep his receptors fresh for the relatively condensed amount and consitancy of anabolics that he can get away with.
not trying to condemn the man but i've been around long enough to take a professional athlete's word with a fraction of a grain of salt and, i'm sorry, but when a guy's being extra careful not to offend and sound oh so politically correct it sends alarm bells off.
call me a cynic. :-\
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just watched the youtube trailer.
he sounds quite level headed and appears to have a good attitude, but he just seems to be trying too hard to say the right things and somewhat contradicts himself.
he intially says, "i want to be the best natural pro bber in the world." i'm thinking fair enough, like every athlete he is competitive and looking at the top of his game.
then, when referring to 'untested' bbing, he says, "i don't want to compete with them. i just want a piece of the pie." or words to that effect.
thing is, i can't see a guy that really wants to be the 'best natural pro bber' not doing EVERYTHING he can to be the best at his game.
this guy is a professional athlete. it is his livelihood. he is obviously competing with guys that WILL do everything they can to bend the rules without blowing the test ie gh, insulin, androgens they haven't found a test for yet, t3, clen, ephed, whatever.
a professional athlete does not know limits. he/she will absolutely do everything they can to reach the top. no point saying, "oh, he's a nice well rounded guy. he'd never do that." BULLSHIT. a human pro athlete is a narcisist with a one track mind. if he even imagines that his competitors are breaking the rules, well, now you see he wouldn't be at that point in the first place because those kind of guys think too much and too late and don't get anywhere near the top.
he does look natural training and posing in the gym, but he doesn't need to bring it at that point so who gives a fuck. besides, he'd want to keep his receptors fresh for the relatively condensed amount and consitancy of anabolics that he can get away with.
not trying to condemn the man but i've been around long enough to take a professional athlete's word with a fraction of a grain of salt and, i'm sorry, but when a guy's being extra careful not to offend and sound oh so politically correct it sends alarm bells off.
call me a cynic. :-\
You hit it right on the spot. Every athelete will do anything in order to win. Layne is just smart, and uses small amounts of Test Prop/hgh/slin/igf. Impossible to detect.
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this guy is a professional athlete. it is his livelihood. he is obviously competing with guys that WILL do everything they can to bend the rules without blowing the test ie gh, insulin, androgens they haven't found a test for yet, t3, clen, ephed, whatever.
There is no professional natural bodybuilding. Hell, there's barely any non-natural professional bodybuilding. That's what kills me about Layne calling himself "professional".... he hardly competes for a living LOL The title "professional" sounds good though but it doesn't really apply to what he does.
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He looks like shit for the work he put in, some naturals on this board destroy this little cumpilot easely.
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You hit it right on the spot. Every athelete will do anything in order to win. Layne is just smart, and uses small amounts of Test Prop/hgh/slin/igf. Impossible to detect.
hahahaha, you're a fucking moron.
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hahahaha, you're a fucking moron.
Why is that?
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There is no professional natural bodybuilding. Hell, there's barely any non-natural professional bodybuilding. That's what kills me about Layne calling himself "professional".... he hardly competes for a living LOL The title "professional" sounds good though but it doesn't really apply to what he does.
i don't know if he actually gets paid for winning a natural contest (there must be some prize money) but these guys are getting good money on the endorsements and appearances.
maybe that's what he's talking about.
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Why is that?
You don't even know Layne, yet you KNOW he's using slin/igf/hgh/test. He's a 25 yr old college student. Wake the fuck up.
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he would be IMPRESSIVE for two years training.
he has been training for much longer. and his arms are weak. his biceps are decent...lacks tris/ and overall size.
you are more jeolous than a little junior high girl.....get over it dude....your whole genetics spat is a bunch of BS
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Dude, you looked like a botched-up abortion in your YouTube video, so STFU about guys whose used jockstrap you can't bid for in a 'gays only' auction ;D
i have a youtube video?
and i swear to god. th eposters on this board are fucking RETARDED. it pisses me off how stupid you guys are...just go shoot yourself, please. i said "the worst genetics for putting on mass" that i have ever seen. and 10 douchebags jump on my back saying that i am wrong, he doesnt have "the worst genetics ever". as if that is what i said.
this dude has been training non-stop, has been totally 100% immersed into the bodybuilding lifestyle for at LEAST 7 years. and this is how big he is.
every natural on this board that has ben training for that long is bigger than him.
and thats what i said. i already gave him the "conditioning part".
i sweaqr to god, if there wasnt a computer screen between m and you retarded-ass posters; i owuld fucking slit your necks open and shit all over whatever small amount of brains are inside your oversized melons. and then track down your parents and piss in their mouths just for breeding someone as fucking STUPID as you!
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i have a youtube video?
and i swear to god. th eposters on this board are fucking RETARDED. it pisses me off how stupid you guys are...just go shoot yourself, please. i said "the worst genetics for putting on mass" that i have ever seen. and 10 douchebags jump on my back saying that i am wrong, he doesnt have "the worst genetics ever". as if that is what i said.
this dude has been training non-stop, has been totally 100% immersed into the bodybuilding lifestyle for at LEAST 7 years. and this is how big he is.
every natural on this board that has ben training for that long is bigger than him.
and thats what i said. i already gave him the "conditioning part".
i sweaqr to god, if there wasnt a computer screen between m and you retarded-ass posters; i owuld fucking slit your necks open and shit all over whatever small amount of brains are inside your oversized melons. and then track down your parents and piss in their mouths just for breeding someone as fucking STUPID as you!
lol, lay off the roids a bit candida. do some pct or maybe just get out in the fresh air, but chill the fuck up before you give yourself a heart attack.
btw, milos proportioned melt down. 8)
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HEY FUCK YOU!!!!!! >:(
;D......juuussssst kidding.
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Layne doesn't have the best structure, but to say he has shitty genetics is just dumb.
genetics is overated. anyone can get big. people at my gym whine about their genetics all the time and blaim that for their crappy results.
then you see them train... probably eats crap to..
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i have a youtube video?
and i swear to god. th eposters on this board are fucking RETARDED. it pisses me off how stupid you guys are...just go shoot yourself, please. i said "the worst genetics for putting on mass" that i have ever seen. and 10 douchebags jump on my back saying that i am wrong, he doesnt have "the worst genetics ever". as if that is what i said.
this dude has been training non-stop, has been totally 100% immersed into the bodybuilding lifestyle for at LEAST 7 years. and this is how big he is.
every natural on this board that has ben training for that long is bigger than him.
and thats what i said. i already gave him the "conditioning part".
i sweaqr to god, if there wasnt a computer screen between m and you retarded-ass posters; i owuld fucking slit your necks open and shit all over whatever small amount of brains are inside your oversized melons. and then track down your parents and piss in their mouths just for breeding someone as fucking STUPID as you!
LMAO one of the better meltdowns in weeks...you don't get em like this anymore
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i have a youtube video?
and i swear to god. th eposters on this board are fucking RETARDED. it pisses me off how stupid you guys are...just go shoot yourself, please. i said "the worst genetics for putting on mass" that i have ever seen. and 10 douchebags jump on my back saying that i am wrong, he doesnt have "the worst genetics ever". as if that is what i said.
this dude has been training non-stop, has been totally 100% immersed into the bodybuilding lifestyle for at LEAST 7 years. and this is how big he is.
every natural on this board that has ben training for that long is bigger than him.
and thats what i said. i already gave him the "conditioning part".
i sweaqr to god, if there wasnt a computer screen between m and you retarded-ass posters; i owuld fucking slit your necks open and shit all over whatever small amount of brains are inside your oversized melons. and then track down your parents and piss in their mouths just for breeding someone as fucking STUPID as you!
You're an idiot. There may be naturals on this board that are 'bigger' than him, any chump can get fat and be 'big'. But are there any that carry more lean mass in contest condition?
It's pretty obvious you've never tried to get down into contest condition becuase if you had you might realise how much muscle fullness and size you lose as a natural..
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you little homo! i am not MELTING DOWN!!!!!!! ill piss in your mothers mouth too, if thats what you what? IS IT??? DO YOU WANT ME TO URINATE ALL OVER YOUR MOTHERS WHORE-ISH TONGUE!! cuz ill do it.. ill do it, ya bitch.
hows that for a meltdown,.......JACKASS!!???
;D
lol.
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DO I LOOK LIKE THE KIND OF MOTHER FUCKER THAT WOULD TAKE KINDLY TO BEING ACCUSED OF MELTING DOWN!!!?????????? FUCK NO!! BITCH I WILL RAPE YOUR VIRGIN ASS LIKE THERE IS NO TO MORROW!!!!!!!! YOU STUPID FUCKING girl!
;D ;D
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damn, this candidate guy is MELTINGDOWN! wouldnt you guys say?
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SHUT THE FUCK UP CANDIDATE!!! I HEARD YOU WERE IN REHAB YOU LITTLE PUSSY BITCH!! AHAHAH. I WOULD KICK YOUR ASS!! FAT BOY LOST SOME POUNDS NOW HE THINKS HES MR. COOL GUY AND CAN GO AROUND TELLING PEOPLE HOW THEY ARE MELTING DOWN. WELL YOU KNOW WHAT, BITCH?? TELL YOUR BITCH SHE STILL OWES ME 5 DOLLARS.......FOR THAT ONE TIME I LET HER SUCK MY DICK!!
HAHAH!
YA LITTLE BITCH!!!
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lmao. this 2025 douchebag needs to be put in a mental institution.
is anyone else seeing this??? lol
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MENTAL INSTITUTION??!! fuck you black i do nnot need to go in any type of mental thingamajig!! you need to go into a....FAGGOTTT!! institution. HAHAHA!! how do you like them apples, you pussy BITCH!
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i liked the show alot. both seems like good down to earth guys.
would be good to see other natural bodybuilders in there as well.
maybe Jrod like somone mentioned.
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i liked the show alot. both seems like good down to earth guys.
would be good to see other natural bodybuilders in there as well.
maybe Jrod like somone mentioned.
what sort of prize money do they get for placing at those shows?
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every natural on this board that has ben training for that long is bigger than him.
You are fucking retarded. Like Coach said, try getting as lean as Layne is and then see how much lean mass you carry. Layne has A LOT of mass for a true natural (assuming he is, can never know for sure). A LOT. I would be willing to bet that if you went on roids for 3-4 years and immersed yourself totally in the lifestyle you still wouldn't carry as much LBM as Layne does in the pic I posted.
You need a reality check.
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You are fucking retarded. Like Coach said, try getting as lean as Layne is and then see how much lean mass you carry. Layne has A LOT of mass for a true natural (assuming he is, can never know for sure). A LOT. I would be willing to bet that if you went on roids for 3-4 years and immersed yourself totally in the lifestyle you still wouldn't carry as much LBM as Layne does in the pic I posted.
You need a reality check.
no, he needs to be properly checked by a phsychiatrist.
i'm picturing candida lying on the floor of his one bedroom apartment catatonic with an upward fixed stare and bits of key board, monitor and pet cat scattered around him.
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thats right. im fucking insane, man! :D
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btw laynes competition weight is bordering 200lbs at 5'11(195ish)
he gets up to 230lbs in the off season
so to say that he doesn't have genetics for mass...is a pretty retarded statement. He's actually known to be one of the bigger guys in the Natural Pro circuit...beleive it or not. Watch the other guy in Laynes series..he looks about 20 lbs lighter, and he's already won a pro show.
i think most of the guys here have been seriously brainwashed into thinking unless you're >250lbs you're a skinny little prick.
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thats right. im fucking insane, man! :D
hey, it happens dude. i've read that some people just aren't cut out for this typing shit. it's just too hardcore for them.
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MENTAL INSTITUTION??!! fuck you #### i do nnot need to go in any type of mental thingamajig!! you need to go into a....FAGGOTTT!! institution. HAHAHA!! how do you like them apples, you pussy BITCH!
Hahaha. I like how you are pretending to "kid around" to hide the fact that you had a real meltown. ;)
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fuck off bitch! ;D
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WELL EVEN FOR A NATURAL HES NOT THAT BIG, LIKE SOMEONE SAID.. ANY NATURAL TRAINING 7YRS IS BIGGER THAN HIM... BUT YOU GOTTA GIVE HIM THE FACT THAT HE IS PRETTY STRONG... I THINK I READ SOMEWHERE HE DOES THE 150LB DUMBELLS ON INCLINE FOR 10 REPS
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Hahaha. I like how you are pretending to "kid around" to hide the fact that you had a real meltown. ;)
I know, right. this candidate guy is a fucking douchebag. its like.....come on man; stop melting down. its the internet. and this guys just getting super fucking hyped over everything.
fucking jackass. i hate this candidate kid
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WELL EVEN FOR A NATURAL HES NOT THAT BIG, LIKE SOMEONE SAID.. ANY NATURAL TRAINING 7YRS IS BIGGER THAN HIM... BUT YOU GOTTA GIVE HIM THE FACT THAT HE IS PRETTY STRONG... I THINK I READ SOMEWHERE HE DOES THE 150LB DUMBELLS ON INCLINE FOR 10 REPS
i don't think he does that many reps or weight on incline, on the video he does a pair of 150's for 5 on flat bench, he could probably do the 130's for 10 on incline, still damn good weight, he's a strong guy for sure.
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I know, right. this candidate guy is a fucking douchebag. its like.....come on man; stop melting down. its the internet. and this guys just getting super fucking hyped over everything.
fucking jackass. i hate this candidate kid
SHUT THE FUCK UP!! IF YOU WERE HER RIGHT NOW I WOULD CASTRATE YOU; HILL BILLY!
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WELL EVEN FOR A NATURAL HES NOT THAT BIG, LIKE SOMEONE SAID.. ANY NATURAL TRAINING 7YRS IS BIGGER THAN HIM... BUT YOU GOTTA GIVE HIM THE FACT THAT HE IS PRETTY STRONG... I THINK I READ SOMEWHERE HE DOES THE 150LB DUMBELLS ON INCLINE FOR 10 REPS
some of these 'naturals' should enter a few natural bbing contests and mop the floor with him. ::)
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WELL EVEN FOR A NATURAL HES NOT THAT BIG, LIKE SOMEONE SAID.. ANY NATURAL TRAINING 7YRS IS BIGGER THAN HIM... BUT YOU GOTTA GIVE HIM THE FACT THAT HE IS PRETTY STRONG... I THINK I READ SOMEWHERE HE DOES THE 150LB DUMBELLS ON INCLINE FOR 10 REPS
"Any natural"? Bull fucking shit. Get off the hormones for a year and I guarantee you wouldn't beat Layne clean, even with the steroid induced muscle you may be able to retain.
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"Any natural"? Bull fucking shit. Get off the hormones for a year and I guarantee you wouldn't beat Layne clean, even with the steroid induced muscle you may be able to retain.
i agree Layne is pretty big for a natural and pretty damn strong too.
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i agree Layne is pretty big for a natural and pretty damn strong too.
get off laynes Nuts.
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what sort of prize money do they get for placing at those shows?
don't really know.
i would guess nothing. a jugg of protein maybe and a trophy.
that's not not what it's about anyway.
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get off laynes Nuts.
i'm not "on his nuts", penis puffer, i'm just giving credit where it's due, the guy looks good and he's strong especially for a natural.
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i'm not "on his nuts", penis puffer, i'm just giving credit where it's due, the guy looks good and he's strong especially for a natural.
hahaha. penis puffer. you cant come up with something better than that?! hahahaha.
i really am laughing out loud at this.
come one man.
ill give you another shot at a comeback. when i get out of the shower i expect some good material out of you.
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hahaha. penis puffer. you cant come up with something better than that?! hahahaha.
i really am laughing out loud at this.
come one man.
ill give you another shot at a comeback. when i get out of the shower i expect some good material out of you.
i'm fuccking your mom right now, i'll get back to you when i'm done, skinny.
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WELL EVEN FOR A NATURAL HES NOT THAT BIG, LIKE SOMEONE SAID.. ANY NATURAL TRAINING 7YRS IS BIGGER THAN HIM... BUT YOU GOTTA GIVE HIM THE FACT THAT HE IS PRETTY STRONG... I THINK I READ SOMEWHERE HE DOES THE 150LB DUMBELLS ON INCLINE FOR 10 REPS
no way...the fact that he's already bordering 200lbs at 4-5% body fat means that he probably can't get any bigger. I doubt any lifetime natural at his height can get any bigger then that, this is of course assuming that Layne is a lifetime natural.
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"Any natural"? Bull fucking shit. Get off the hormones for a year and I guarantee you wouldn't beat Layne clean, even with the steroid induced muscle you may be able to retain.
Id beat him on structure and still have more size. I was 186 12%ish before i touched a roid without even a full year of training when i was 19.
Anyway....there are 3 clean guys that i know of at Jersey Shore in Bradley Beach NJ that i know would smoke layne and dont try 1/4 as hard at bodybuilding as he does. One guy won a few shows.. i asked him hwo he dried out he replied... i just started drinking less water. Doesnt know half the shit Layne does, but would absolutly beat him. Next time i see them i could ask to take a pic with my cell, but it would probably sound pretty gay haha. There was a guy at that gym who would SMOOOKKKEEEE Layne AS IS WITHOUT DIETING who wanted to compete but i think his visa wore out in the US or whatever you call it and he had to leave, think he said he was african or something.
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WELL EVEN FOR A NATURAL HES NOT THAT BIG, LIKE SOMEONE SAID.. ANY NATURAL TRAINING 7YRS IS BIGGER THAN HIM... BUT YOU GOTTA GIVE HIM THE FACT THAT HE IS PRETTY STRONG... I THINK I READ SOMEWHERE HE DOES THE 150LB DUMBELLS ON INCLINE FOR 10 REPS
TYou think just because you type in Caps and bold it we gonna listen to you more than we have to now? Nobody gives a fuck what you think New jack got that? Yeah thank... ;)
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Id beat him on structure and still have more size. I was 186 12%ish before i touched a roid without even a full year of training when i was 19.
Anyway....there are 3 clean guys that i know of at Jersey Shore in Bradley Beach NJ that i know would smoke layne and dont try 1/4 as hard at bodybuilding as he does. One guy won a few shows.. i asked him hwo he dried out he replied... i just started drinking less water. Doesnt know half the shit Layne does, but would absolutly beat him. Next time i see them i could ask to take a pic with my cell, but it would probably sound pretty gay haha. There was a guy at that gym who would SMOOOKKKEEEE Layne AS IS WITHOUT DIETING who wanted to compete but i think his visa wore out in the US or whatever you call it and he had to leave, think he said he was african or something.
Come on man, no one near the Jersey shore is natural.
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TYou think just because you type in Caps and bold it we gonna listen to you more than we have to now? Nobody gives a fuck what you think New jack got that? Yeah thank... ;)
you obviously did.... ;D
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Id beat him on structure and still have more size. I was 186 12%ish before i touched a roid without even a full year of training when i was 19.
Anyway....there are 3 clean guys that i know of at Jersey Shore in Bradley Beach NJ that i know would smoke layne and dont try 1/4 as hard at bodybuilding as he does. One guy won a few shows.. i asked him hwo he dried out he replied... i just started drinking less water. Doesnt know half the shit Layne does, but would absolutly beat him. Next time i see them i could ask to take a pic with my cell, but it would probably sound pretty gay haha. There was a guy at that gym who would SMOOOKKKEEEE Layne AS IS WITHOUT DIETING who wanted to compete but i think his visa wore out in the US or whatever you call it and he had to leave, think he said he was african or something.
and i have a cousin whos father was in the army and he had a friend whos fathers sons brother in law could bench press 700 pounds raw.
also he was natural.
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Id beat him on structure and still have more size. I was 186 12%ish before i touched a roid without even a full year of training when i was 19.
Anyway....there are 3 clean guys that i know of at Jersey Shore in Bradley Beach NJ that i know would smoke layne and dont try 1/4 as hard at bodybuilding as he does. One guy won a few shows.. i asked him hwo he dried out he replied... i just started drinking less water. Doesnt know half the shit Layne does, but would absolutly beat him. Next time i see them i could ask to take a pic with my cell, but it would probably sound pretty gay haha. There was a guy at that gym who would SMOOOKKKEEEE Layne AS IS WITHOUT DIETING who wanted to compete but i think his visa wore out in the US or whatever you call it and he had to leave, think he said he was african or something.
FAIL...there are 14 year olds in jersey that stick more needles in their ass then mexican ass farmers
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no he is not. this guy is working out every day and eating/living like a professional bodybuilder. and has been doign so for YEARS! since he was like 16. he would be impressive for a natural that had been tlifting for two years. not 6, or whatever he is at now.
you are going to be greatly disappointed if you think you will be any bigger than him by his age, assuming you stay natural
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I think he looks very good myself
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I think he looks very good myself
i agree, the guy looks good and he's a strong dude, i don't see what people's problem is with him, he seems like a down to earth guy in the video.
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i agree, the guy looks good and he's a strong dude, i don't see what people's problem is with him, he seems like a down to earth guy in the video.
He's intelligent and well studied in nutrition and training. He has some ideas that differ from 'typical' bodybuilding ideas, and he is willing to argue his point.
I think he can come off as a bit arrogant with his knowledge.....and I say that with the utmost respect. I think Layne is one of the most intelligent people in the industry. It's not that he's arrogant, just very knowledgable and to the point with his information, and that can easilly be misconstrued as arrogance.
If no one knew who he was, no one would have a problem with him. So, there's a positive to having people dislike you, I guess. lol
He knows his stuff, and can articulate it well....which can be tough when you're talking about a wide array of information. He'd be tough to debate with.
I haven't listened, but I hear him and Palumbo have some good back and forth on the radio broadcast they did.
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Id beat him on structure and still have more size. I was 186 12%ish before i touched a roid without even a full year of training when i was 19.
Anyway....there are 3 clean guys that i know of at Jersey Shore in Bradley Beach NJ that i know would smoke layne and dont try 1/4 as hard at bodybuilding as he does. One guy won a few shows.. i asked him hwo he dried out he replied... i just started drinking less water. Doesnt know half the shit Layne does, but would absolutly beat him. Next time i see them i could ask to take a pic with my cell, but it would probably sound pretty gay haha. There was a guy at that gym who would SMOOOKKKEEEE Layne AS IS WITHOUT DIETING who wanted to compete but i think his visa wore out in the US or whatever you call it and he had to leave, think he said he was african or something.
i know the following guys could also beat Layne:
- my cousin
- 3 or 4 guys at my gym
- a guy I went to school with
they are all bigger, stronger, lower bf, and all lifetime naturals and only train once a fortnight on their Total Gyms and eat whatever they want
don't have any pics though, sorry.
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i know the following guys could also beat Layne:
- my cousin
- 3 or 4 guys at my gym
- a guy I went to school with
they are all bigger, stronger, lower bf, and all lifetime naturals and only train once a fortnight on their Total Gyms and eat whatever they want
don't have any pics though, sorry.
hahahaha, exactly because we all know 3 or 4 guys who don't train regularly, eat 1 can of Chef Boyardee ravioli a day and work 100 hours a week who can push 150 pound db's on flat benches, front squat 405, do 10 reps of lying extensions with 185 well below their heads like Layne can do. ::)
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hahahaha, exactly because we all know 3 or 4 guys who don't train regularly, eat 1 can of Chef Boyardee ravioli a day and work 100 hours a week who can push 150 pound db's on flat benches, front squat 405, do 10 reps of lying extensions with 185 well below their heads like Layne can do. ::)
yes and don't forget cage fight.
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yes and don't forget cage fight.
hahahaha, exactly, a few years ago i used to work with a skinny dude about 6'1" 150 pounds with tattoos who smoked a pack of marlboro's and drank about 8 20 oz. bottles of pepsi who said he used to fight in the cage after he got back from "the Bosnian war" ;D hahahahahaa, i used to embarass the shit out of him when the owner of the company would come out, i'd say, "hey Chris, who would you say was hands down the toughest dude you ever fought in the UFC" hahahah, he would always come up with some bullshit story.
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hahahaha, exactly because we all know 3 or 4 guys who don't train regularly, eat 1 can of Chef Boyardee ravioli a day and work 100 hours a week who can push 150 pound db's on flat benches, front squat 405, do 10 reps of lying extensions with 185 well below their heads like Layne can do. ::)
Don't forget that they're all millionaires!
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Don't forget that they're all millionaires!
that is only because they have investments in Dubai India
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hahahaha, exactly because we all know 3 or 4 guys who don't train regularly, eat 1 can of Chef Boyardee ravioli a day and work 100 hours a week who can push 150 pound db's on flat benches, front squat 405, do 10 reps of lying extensions with 185 well below their heads like Layne can do. ::)
don't agree with squad much but sometimes he comes out with absolute gems.
quoted for truth.
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You don't even know Layne, yet you KNOW he's using slin/igf/hgh/test. He's a 25 yr old college student. Wake the fuck up.
You belong to the mainsteam "audience" , believing that the tour de france is all nature when doping controls are done.
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You belong to the mainsteam "audience" , believing that the tour de france is all nature when doping controls are done.
lol
i ignore the 'big kids' generally, but it was funny him telling you to wake the fuck up.
pot meet kettle.
he better behave himself or santa won't bring him any presents this xmas. >:(
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As far as lifetime natties go, Norton looks like crap next to the other life-time nattie La Cour.
And I wont be surprised if Norton uses even more "supplements" than La Cour...
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You belong to the mainsteam "audience" , believing that the tour de france is all nature when doping controls are done.
Morons, your bus is leaving. This isn't the Team Universe where guys can get an ifbb pro card. Your saying a 25 year old grad student is using hgh, test and insulin. Do you know how stupid that sounds. There are millions on the line in the Tour de france. 1st place in a NGA pro show might get $1000.
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lol
i ignore the 'big kids' generally, but it was funny him telling you to wake the fuck up.
pot meet kettle.
he better behave himself or santa won't bring him any presents this xmas. >:(
Sorry BEAST. Why do I need to wake up? What did i say that was inaccurate.
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Morons, your bus is leaving. This isn't the Team Universe where guys can get an ifbb pro card. Your saying a 25 year old grad student is using hgh, test and insulin. Do you know how stupid that sounds. There are millions on the line in the Tour de france. 1st place in a NGA pro show might get $1000.
I can afford it, and i don't earn that much. Also depends on the source ofc.
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i know the following guys could also beat Layne:
- my cousin
- 3 or 4 guys at my gym
- a guy I went to school with
they are all bigger, stronger, lower bf, and all lifetime naturals and only train once a fortnight on their Total Gyms and eat whatever they want
don't have any pics though, sorry.
jeeze i really gotta get on the ball and start asking guys in gyms i go to if i can take their picture so i can win an arguement on an internet message board.... what was i thiniking jeeeezee.... ::)
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layne looks good and is only getting better....if you watch the series, you catch the other dude on there getting a little upset
when talking about layne....he knows that layne is going to make him look like a bitch next time they compete.....he makes comments
like "layne is in grad school, when i was in grad school i had time to do more shows"....whaaaaaa.....he knows what is coming
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i agree, the guy looks good and he's a strong dude, i don't see what people's problem is with him, he seems like a down to earth guy in the video.
people always hate on others that have more dedication than them....if one person cannot look like that they talk shit
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Morons, your bus is leaving. This isn't the Team Universe where guys can get an ifbb pro card. Your saying a 25 year old grad student is using hgh, test and insulin. Do you know how stupid that sounds. There are millions on the line in the Tour de france. 1st place in a NGA pro show might get $1000.
no, sorry, you're right. i mean who the fuck is layne norton? has anyone ever heard of layne norton here? ::)
oh, hang on. that's that natural world champion right? oh hang on, i'm natural too. gee, i wonder what sort of supplements the best natural bber in the world takes? hmmm, oh is that layne norton doing radio shows, public appearances, tv shows and endorsing enter big contract supplement company here products. maybe i should buy me some of them there supplements.
you getting this yet kid?
but yes, i agree. i mean we all know that only the top 10 ifbb pro bodybuilders take drugs right. i mean why would anyone else need to take steroids ???
so, yes, maybe it is about time for you to wake up kid. ;)
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no, sorry, you're right. i mean who the fuck is layne norton? has anyone ever heard of layne norton here? ::)
oh, hang on. that's that natural world champion right? oh hang on, i'm natural too. gee, i wonder what sort of supplements the best natural bber in the world takes? hmmm, oh is that layne norton doing radio shows, public appearances, tv shows and endorsing enter big contract supplement company here products. maybe i should buy me some of them there supplements.
you getting this yet kid?
but yes, i agree. i mean we all know that only the top 10 ifbb pro bodybuilders take drugs right. i mean why would anyone else need to take steroids ???
so, yes, maybe it is about time for you to wake up kid. ;)
Let me ask you something. What evidence do you have that he is using? Just specualtion based on your own jealousy? You don't know him. You don't know anything about him. You don't know anything about bbing. You're not a bber. Do some guys who do natty shows use? Yes, i've known some. Layne isn't one of them.
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most people using gear aren't doing it to win $$millions, trophies, endorsement contracts, etc. They're juicing up because they are insecure.
Hope that helps.
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most people using gear aren't doing it to win $$millions, trophies, endorsement contracts, etc. They're juicing up because they are insecure.
Hope that helps.
It doesn't, becasue that wasn't the foundation of my argument. I just thought it was funny that some guys who's probably just seeing Layne pic for the 1st time, thinks he's on slin and hgh.
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Let me ask you something. What evidence do you have that he is using? Just specualtion based on your own jealousy? You don't know him. You don't know anything about him. You don't know anything about bbing. You're not a bber. Do some guys who do natty shows use? Yes, i've known some. Layne isn't one of them.
i don't have evidence that he's using. while we're at it i don't have evidence that ronnie coleman or jay cutler are using either.
read my initial post on the matter. show me where it was speculating or showed any hate or jealousy towards the man?
i have and do commend mr norton. as i said in that post, i think he has great discipline to do what he does. i would never be jealous of norton because, as you state, i am not a bber, but in any case i can only be inspired by him. i think he's a credit to the sport and i wish him every success.
BUT...i have been around long enough to know that when an athlete (notice how i didn't say bber) says something, especially publically i tend to take it with a fraction of a grain of salt, especially someone as intelligent and politically correct as layne.
that's because athletes don't tend to tell the world what peds they take, especially if they're bbers...competing in tested shows.
now i just can't see this conversation taking place:
journalist: "so layne, what drugs do you take?"
layne: "oh, i take some slin, gh, igf 1, t3, clen, ephedrine, anapolon, test suspension and winstrol/primobolan...oh, are they hand cuffs? i'm going where? i don't understand. does this mean i don't get to compete and all my business contracts are null and void? shit, will my family and friends find out about this too?"
but hey, if you're attached to layne's nut sack 24/7 then i stand corrected. ::)
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I know Layne. No you dont him. You have no frame of reference. End of story.
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I know Layne. No you dont him. You have no frame of reference. End of story.
are you from Champaign too bigkid?
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I know Layne. No you dont him. You have no frame of reference. End of story.
does he ever post here? I always hear all of this talk about how brilliant he is. I'd love to see him engaged in a debate...
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are you from Champaign too bigkid?
Nah, i'm from Florida.
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does he ever post here? I always hear all of this talk about how brilliant he is. I'd love to see him engaged in a debate...
I don't think he's on here. I thought he was kinda arrogant when 1st saw his post on bb.com like 6 years ago. But then I meet him and he was a straight up, cool guy.
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Yes he's a standup comedian.
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he would be IMPRESSIVE for two years training.
he has been training for much longer. and his arms are weak. his biceps are decent...lacks tris/ and overall size.
its hard as a natural.
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Don't be so sure. I saw your recent pics and it might not be possible for you to reach Layne's level naturally. JMHO.
the issue with naturals is that as we get to contest level bodyfat levels not many can look big still! this si where genetics is VERY important.
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maybe candidate should show us how much better he is ::)
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i sweaqr to god, if there wasnt a computer screen between m and you retarded-ass posters; i owuld fucking slit your necks open and shit all over whatever small amount of brains are inside your oversized melons. and then track down your parents and piss in their mouths just for breeding someone as fucking STUPID as you!
hahaha. yes a meltdown...but the funniest i have read in ages. hahah i can feel the rage.
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i have a youtube video?
and i swear to god. th eposters on this board are fucking RETARDED. it pisses me off how stupid you guys are...just go shoot yourself, please. i said "the worst genetics for putting on mass" that i have ever seen. and 10 douchebags jump on my back saying that i am wrong, he doesnt have "the worst genetics ever". as if that is what i said.
this dude has been training non-stop, has been totally 100% immersed into the bodybuilding lifestyle for at LEAST 7 years. and this is how big he is.
every natural on this board that has ben training for that long is bigger than him.
and thats what i said. i already gave him the "conditioning part".
i sweaqr to god, if there wasnt a computer screen between m and you retarded-ass posters; i owuld fucking slit your necks open and shit all over whatever small amount of brains are inside your oversized melons. and then track down your parents and piss in their mouths just for breeding someone as fucking STUPID as you!
hahahahahahahaha, holy shit :o
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hahahahahahahaha, holy shit :o
IM STILL LAUGHING. THIS SHIT IS HILARIOUS!
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IM STILL LAUGHING. THIS SHIT IS HILARIOUS!
hahahahahaha, dollars to donuts says that his poor keyboard was in 122 pieces on the floor.
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hahahahahaha, dollars to donuts says that his poor keyboard was in 122 pieces on the floor.
i have had that feeling twice thus far.
i wanna see more of this funny shit ;D
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layne is a pretty smart guy, I've read alot of his stuff and he knows what he's talking about from what I can tell. I think he's going for a masters or even a doctorate in protien metabolism or soemthing like that. He's done well for himself, he turned his passion into something of a career, he's an internet celeb within the BB community and he's good at what he does. amazing how people can rip a guy that's busted his ass for years just cause they think they could be bigger if only they could do exactly what he did to get to where he is...shoulda, woulda, coulda words of a loser.
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For those who don't think Layne is big as a natural, maybe you don't understand how much "all drugs" truly does apply in the world of professional bodybuilding.
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layne is a pretty smart guy, I've read alot of his stuff and he knows what he's talking about from what I can tell. I think he's going for a masters or even a doctorate in protien metabolism or soemthing like that. He's done well for himself, he turned his passion into something of a career, he's an internet celeb within the BB community and he's good at what he does. amazing how people can rip a guy that's busted his ass for years just cause they think they could be bigger if only they could do exactly what he did to get to where he is...shoulda, woulda, coulda words of a loser.
Agree as well... He also has become quite the "guru" for some competitors that have also done well under his guidance. He opinions some don't agree with, however he usually uses scientific examples when answering a question.
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does he ever post here? I always hear all of this talk about how brilliant he is. I'd love to see him engaged in a debate...
he can debate as well as anybody, check out bodybuilding.com or MD
check out this vid, even the babes love him ;D
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/insidethelife4.htm
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I'm very impressed with Layne. He banned me from the bb.com forum when I was 15 lmao! I was very immature back then but I still admire his dedication because he hasn't slowed down a bit since then!!
I still find it hard to believe that that is pro natural bodybuilding. Not to brag but my physique isn't that much less developed than his and the other guy in the vid that Earl just posted at age 19. My ego went up 10 points!
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I'm very impressed with Layne. He banned me from the bb.com forum when I was 15 lmao! I was very immature back then but I still admire his dedication because he hasn't slowed down a bit since then!!
I still find it hard to believe that that is pro natural bodybuilding. Not to brag but my physique isn't that much less developed than his and the other guy in the vid that Earl just posted at age 19. My ego went up 10 points!
You should start training this year for the natural Mr Olympia, I think you will win it easy
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In my opinion and Chick has told him the same thing.......
Layne Norton is very bright and knows his stuff but at the same time he's very cocky, arrogant and has a tendency to talk down to people. I have no problem with him as he's been generally alright with me but with others he can be a bit of a Brainy Smurf...at least that's what I read over at BB.com.
As far as his competition record, I think his upper body is outstanding but what holds him back from becoming a WNBF pro is his legs and calves which are pretty horrible. If he used my training regimen that I do for my legs and calves, they would be much improved. His problem doesn't have to do with poundage by the way as the reason for his poor leg development.
Overall, he's still got the contract, the ladies, the education, the youth, and the money plus he is an OCB pro natural bodybuilder. A lot of people in his place would kill to be him.
One more thing. His buddy Skippy Podar is funny as hell. Check out skippypodar.net one day
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You should start training this year for the natural Mr Olympia, I think you will win it easy
I will never compete but thanks for your support.
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For those who don't think Layne is big as a natural, maybe you don't understand how much "all drugs" truly does apply in the world of professional bodybuilding.
totally true
i kinda doubt that he is totally natural though- he is too ripped in contest shape to be natural IMO
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you mother fuckers liked that meltdown didnt you??!!
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you mother fuckers liked that meltdown didnt you??!!
I FUCKIN LOVED IT! HAHAHAHAHA
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i have a youtube video?
and i swear to god. th eposters on this board are fucking RETARDED. it pisses me off how stupid you guys are...just go shoot yourself, please. i said "the worst genetics for putting on mass" that i have ever seen. and 10 douchebags jump on my back saying that i am wrong, he doesnt have "the worst genetics ever". as if that is what i said.
this dude has been training non-stop, has been totally 100% immersed into the bodybuilding lifestyle for at LEAST 7 years. and this is how big he is.
every natural on this board that has ben training for that long is bigger than him.
and thats what i said. i already gave him the "conditioning part".
i sweaqr to god, if there wasnt a computer screen between m and you retarded-ass posters; i owuld fucking slit your necks open and shit all over whatever small amount of brains are inside your oversized melons. and then track down your parents and piss in their mouths just for breeding someone as fucking STUPID as you!
Hahahaha calm down tiger. I thought you were the beast Colossus.
I forgot you are just a fat turd ;D
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For those who don't think Layne is big as a natural, maybe you don't understand how much "all drugs" truly does apply in the world of professional bodybuilding.
I know right. People are so full of shit. In that condition with that amount of size Layne is plenty big for a natty. Juice causes delusions of the highest degree. Juice causes average Joes with average genetics to think they are "freaks". How many natural guys do you see walking around at the gym that are 6 percent body fat and are actually big? Guys that are natural. Hell you don't see many sauced up 200 lb guys at 5 - 6 percent (true 5 -6 percent) in a typical gym in this country. I am not talking about guys that are 6'5 200 lbs either. ::)
I think people forget how tough it is to hold on to muscle when you get seriously ripped as a natty.
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thats why naturals should have some bodyfat on them. they look horrible ripped.
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thats why naturals should have some bodyfat on them. they look horrible ripped.
Just flat. If they do have huge roundness they are not natural after all.
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If he used my training regimen that I do for my legs and calves, they would be much improved.
rofl
yeah sure. cause your legs are better :o
delusional turd
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I know right. People are so full of shit. In that condition with that amount of size Layne is plenty big for a natty. Juice causes delusions of the highest degree. Juice causes average Joes with average genetics to think they are "freaks". How many natural guys do you see walking around at the gym that are 6 percent body fat and are actually big? Guys that are natural. Hell you don't see many sauced up 200 lb guys at 5 - 6 percent (true 5 -6 percent) in a typical gym in this country. I am not talking about guys that are 6'5 200 lbs either. ::)
I think people forget how tough it is to hold on to muscle when you get seriously ripped as a natty.
Let's put things in perspective: Layne can walk into any gym in the city I live in at any time and consistently be the most developed and strongest person in there, even amongst juicers. I think people on here need to stop comparing his achievements to those of Olympia class competitors.
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Let's put things in perspective: Layne can walk into any gym in the city I live in at any time and consistently be the most developed and strongest person in there, even amongst juicers. I think people on here need to stop comparing his achievements to Olympia class competitors.
exactly.
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Let's put things in perspective: Layne can walk into any gym in the city I live in at any time and consistently be the most developed and strongest person in there, even amongst juicers. I think people on here need to stop comparing his achievements to those of Olympia class competitors.
maybe not the most developed. in my gym there are a lot of big dudes
I never saw anyone dumbell press the 150's tho! I'd say he would be one of the strongest guy for sure
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maybe not the most developed. in my gym there are a lot of big dudes
I never saw anyone dumbell press the 150's tho! I'd say he would be one of the strongest guy for sure
My gym only goes up to 120s. There are two gyms in my city which might go up to 130s or more but I haven't checked been there since I got to using the 120s with good form. Now I'm hoping my gym goes up to 130s. I wouldn't need the 150s for a while yet.
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My gym only goes up to 120s. There are two gyms in my city which might go up to 130s or more but I haven't checked been there since I got to using the 120s with good form. Now I'm hoping my gym goes up to 130s. I wouldn't need the 150s for a while yet.
I don't ever use dumbells for pressing movement.
I don't like it, you lose so much energy trying to get in position for the movement that you lose strenght for your set IMO
I prefer barbells
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hmm I'm 5'9 195 lbs and i press the 150s regularly. It's nothing amazing.
Having said that, Layne seems like a cool guy who loves bodybuilding. He desperately needs better arms, but his physique is good in my book. He won't be the most developed nattie if he enters my local gym though. On any given night, there are about 5, 6 guys at my gym who look like juicers but are totally natural. I know them personally.
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hmm I'm 5'9 195 lbs and i press the 150s regularly. It's nothing amazing.
Having said that, Layne seems like a cool guy who loves bodybuilding. He desperately needs better arms, but his physique is good in my book. He won't be the most developed nattie if he enters my local gym though. On any given night, there are about 5, 6 guys at my gym who look like juicers but are totally natural. I know them personally.
interesting the whole read........
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hmm I'm 5'9 195 lbs and i press the 150s regularly. It's nothing amazing.
Having said that, Layne seems like a cool guy who loves bodybuilding. He desperately needs better arms, but his physique is good in my book. He won't be the most developed nattie if he enters my local gym though. On any given night, there are about 5, 6 guys at my gym who look like juicers but are totally natural. I know them personally.
Thats right , there alot of nattys with no intention of competeing that are better with out trying.........Mesomorph 78 for example.
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Thats right , there alot of nattys with no intention of competeing that are better with out trying.........Mesomorph 78 for example.
There is a big difference between a semi-fat gym body and a ripped stage body! Put these "gym champions" on stage and most of the time it's a different story altogether. I'm not saying Layne has the best genetics ever but it's total BS that everyone here knows tons of guys who are way better and "aren't even trying".
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hmm I'm 5'9 195 lbs and i press the 150s regularly. It's nothing amazing.
Having said that, Layne seems like a cool guy who loves bodybuilding. He desperately needs better arms, but his physique is good in my book. He won't be the most developed nattie if he enters my local gym though. On any given night, there are about 5, 6 guys at my gym who look like juicers but are totally natural. I know them personally.
well im 6'1 284lbs 2.1% bf..and i press 220lbs x15 reps and a drop with 150 x 33
aint nothing but a peanut
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There is a big difference between a semi-fat gym body and a ripped stage body! Put these "gym champions" on stage and most of the time it's a different story altogether. I'm not saying Layne has the best genetics ever but it's total BS that everyone here knows tons of guys who are way better and "aren't even trying".
Hate to break it to you, but their are guys with abs yearround that could take state titles anytime, but have no interest in posing for the shmoes......kinda weird huh.
Theres always someone better...
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Layne is a very insecure person, I remember one time he posted a picture of him eating a sandwhich and some guy said "That cheese better be low fat layne :D". Well didnt layne go off he's tree and ended up banning the guy as a result of it.
Was bloody hilarious, the use to have sever meltdowns, he has all these 14-15 yr old kids hanging of he's nuts and he loves it. Thats the reason why he wont come here cant handle the criticism and will meltdown more than any guy I know including derek anthony.
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Layne is a very insecure person, I remember one time he posted a picture of him eating a sandwhich and some guy said "That cheese better be low fat layne :D". Well didnt layne go off he's tree and ended up banning the guy as a result of it.
Was bloody hilarious, the use to have sever meltdowns, he has all these 14-15 yr old kids hanging of he's nuts and he loves it. Thats the reason why he wont come here cant handle the criticism and will meltdown more than any guy I know including derek anthony.
i'm sure there was more to the ban than that
and why should layne post here when most of the posts will be hateful, seriously? getbig contains alot of bb.com rejects so they would salivate at the idea of ripping into him here without worries of being banned
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Hate to break it to you, but their are guys with abs yearround that could take state titles anytime, but have no interest in posing for the shmoes......kinda weird huh.
Theres always someone better...
You missed my point entirely. Of course there are better guys, but they aren't dime a dozen, everywhere, in every gym. And having abs is not the same as being contest ripped like Layne has been.
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i'm sure there was more to the ban than that
and why should layne post here when most of the posts will be hateful, seriously?
Becasue here, he will get the truth. It's that simple.
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i'm sure there was more to the ban than that
and why should layne post here when most of the posts will be hateful, seriously? getbig contains alot of bb.com rejects so they would salivate at the idea of ripping into him here without worries of being banned
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Getbig is paradise compaired to bb.com
Here we can say all the things we truly want to say.
I remember that swedish idiot (mod at bb.com) who claimed 600+ pound benchpresses with his 200 pound body and 14" arms. Banned every person who questioned the lifts..
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We have all seen tons of guys that look real good in the gym decide to step up and do a show...And when that person does a contest diet, almost every time they are expose to how medicore they really are...
Layne Norton natural or juiced is in another league to most of the people out there...And most of the gym juice heads couldn't really hold Layne's jock in terms of competitive bodybuilding...
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hmm I'm 5'9 195 lbs and i press the 150s regularly. It's nothing amazing.
Having said that, Layne seems like a cool guy who loves bodybuilding. He desperately needs better arms, but his physique is good in my book. He won't be the most developed nattie if he enters my local gym though. On any given night, there are about 5, 6 guys at my gym who look like juicers but are totally natural. I know them personally.
Feel free to post some pictures ::) Lemme guess you are 6 percent bf, 29 inch waist, and natural ::)
We would all love to see a picture.
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We have all seen tons of guys that look real good in the gym decide to step up and do a show...And when that person does a contest diet, almost every time they are expose to how medicore they really are...
Layne Norton natural or juiced is in another league to most of the people out there...And most of the gym juice heads couldn't really hold Layne's jock in terms of competitive bodybuilding...
Exactly. Some dude looking swole in the gym means shit. You can look absolutely ripped under gym lights but once onstage you can look downright fat. There's a big difference between having low bodyfat and abs and being stage ripped with striations on your ass.
Rhino's friend who competed in the PDI is a good example of a gym body. Looked absolutely gargantuan in the gym with a tank top on. On stage he was "small" and fat.
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hmm I'm 5'9 195 lbs and i press the 150s regularly. It's nothing amazing.
Having said that, Layne seems like a cool guy who loves bodybuilding. He desperately needs better arms, but his physique is good in my book. He won't be the most developed nattie if he enters my local gym though. On any given night, there are about 5, 6 guys at my gym who look like juicers but are totally natural. I know them personally.
hahahahahahaha, oh brother, another internet beast with the infamous "i know 5 or 6 guys who are 450 pounds ripped and natural and press the 350's for reps" bullshit, let's see some pictures "cold". ::)
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hmm I'm 5'9 195 lbs and i press the 150s regularly. It's nothing amazing.
Yes it is.
He won't be the most developed nattie if he enters my local gym though.
Yes he would be.
On any given night, there are about 5, 6 guys at my gym who look like juicers but are totally natural. I know them personally.
No there aren't.
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Yes it is.
Yes he would be.
No there aren't.
hahahahah, you're starting to sound like me. ;D
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What, pressing the 150's for reps (with ease) is not a common occurrence at every gym in America? ::) ::) ::) ::)
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What, pressing the 150's for reps (with ease) is not a common occurrence at every gym in America? ::) ::) ::) ::)
not to guys like "cold", shit, he does it at 5'8" 180. ::)
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Becasue here, he will get the truth. It's that simple.
and you are just dying to give it to him aren't you yemeni :P
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hahahahah, you're starting to sound like me. ;D
;D
not to guys like "cold", shit, he does it at 5'8" 180. ::)
LOL. First off, where I'm from it's rare even to have a gym go up to the 150s. In fact, I don't know of any gym that does. Although we don't have a Gold's Gym or World Gym here.
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LOL. First off, where I'm from it's rare even to have a gym go up to the 150s. In fact, I don't know of any gym that does. Although we don't have a Gold's Gym or World Gym here.
where do you train?
Almost every gym I've trained at has at least 150s
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where do you train?
Here:
http://www.pushfitness.ca
Although they are not the only gym in town that does not have the 150s. If I recall correctly, the highest I've ever seen would be the 135s at the Canada Games Complex:
http://www.thunderbay.ca/index.cfm?fuse=html&pg=348
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and you are just dying to give it to him aren't you yemeni :P
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No Earl. Unlike you, I'm not interested in "giving it" to any guy. But I do find it interesting that this Layne Norton name pops up here on GetBig at least once per month and along with it, a slew of nuthuggers proclaiming him to be some sort of mythical "all-natural" guru. Perhaps he is, but unless he engages the uncensored warth of GetBig, we'll never know for sure...
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If that's the most I can achieve being natural, I think I'm going to give the juice a try! ;D
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No Earl. Unlike you, I'm not interested in "giving it" to any guy. But I do find it interesting that this Layne Norton name pops up here on GetBig at least once per month and along with it, a slew of nuthuggers proclaiming him to be some sort of mythical "all-natural" guru. Perhaps he is, but unless he engages the uncensored warth of GetBig, we'll never know for sure...
layne is too good for peons like you and even myself :-X ;D
learn to accept that and quit holding a grudge against Mr. Norton ;)
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layne is too good for peons like you and even myself :-X ;D
learn to accept that and quit holding a grudge against Mr. Norton ;)
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hahahaha, calm down earl, you make it sound like the guy is a God, he's a decent natural bodybuilder that's it.
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hahahaha, calm down earl, you make it sound like the guy is a God, he's a decent natural bodybuilder that's it.
I was kidding but yemeni does hold some sort of grudge against him
maybe layne banned him from bodybuilding.com
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layne is too good for peons like you and even myself :-X ;D
learn to accept that and quit holding a grudge against Mr. Norton ;)
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How could I hold a grudge against someone whom all I know about, is that he has legs that are hardly bigger than my 5 yr old daughter's ??? Seriously, who is this guy? Bring him to me...
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I was kidding but yemeni does hold some sort of grudge against him
maybe layne banned him from bodybuilding.com
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The only other forum I've ever been to was gayham. I posted twice and got banned...
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you did write for bodybuilidng.com
maybe you know him through that
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How could I hold a grudge against someone whom all I know about, is that he has legs that are hardly bigger than my 5 yr old daughter's ??? Seriously, who is this guy? Bring him to me...
LOL. The above is simply the truth.... and simply put. ;D thats why he'll never hang here.....hahahah
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you did write for bodybuilidng.com
maybe you know him through that
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I've never written for them. Articles I have writen for other mags have been featured on their site.
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How could I hold a grudge against someone whom all I know about, is that he has legs that are hardly bigger than my 5 yr old daughter's ??? Seriously, who is this guy? Bring him to me...
well wouldnt say that his legs are that bad for a natural. definatly a weak point for him but not bad.
on the other hand. are your legs any better off steroids?
and for the record. i just wanted to see these videos cause he knows alot about dieting and contest prep for naturals.
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'i feel compelled to lift some weight." :-\
suddenly 'nuthin but a peanut.' sounds really cool.
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No Earl. Unlike you, I'm not interested in "giving it" to any guy. But I do find it interesting that this Layne Norton name pops up here on GetBig at least once per month and along with it, a slew of nuthuggers proclaiming him to be some sort of mythical "all-natural" guru. Perhaps he is, but unless he engages the uncensored warth of GetBig, we'll never know for sure...
never happen his ego is more fragile than earls collection of levrone's nut hairs meticulously plucked from the huge collection of used undies kevin has sent him :D
ha ha ha
Norton would melt down like "hollywood" levrone did on here and delete his account. ;D
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LOL. First off, where I'm from it's rare even to have a gym go up to the 150s. In fact, I don't know of any gym that does. Although we don't have a Gold's Gym or World Gym here.
you live in Canada aren't all your weights made from ice blocks? :D ha ha ;D
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granted to say he has the worst genetics ever seen gosh! http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3516327422111020106
probably worse than adam anus ableles even.
but he has done pretty well with them but still he's a smart ass know it all puss that is still wet behind the ears in life
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Hes too arrogant.
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never happen his ego is more fragile than earls collection of levrone's nut hairs meticulously plucked from the huge collection of used undies kevin has sent him :D
ha ha ha
Norton would melt down like "hollywood" levrone did on here and delete his account. ;D
translation: layne banned me from bodybuilding.com and I still cry every night when thinking about the traumatic experience
ps the "undies" joke has been used for 3 years now, hit me with something I haven't heard before please :)
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'i feel compelled to lift some weight." :-\
haha too sophisticated for you ;D
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haha too sophisticated for you ;D
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no, just a ridiculously inappropriate use of a word.
it's like he's trying to sound intelligent but all he's doing is sounding insecure.
it's lifting weights, not shakespear.
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i have to agree
compelled to move weights
how fucking lame ;D
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does Layne write for a mag? it seems he's been around, collecting phds, forever.
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does Layne write for a mag? it seems he's been around, collecting phds, forever.
he does the ocassional peice for ironman plus other training mags and also has submitted articles to MD (to date they havent been printed).
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translation: layne banned me from bodybuilding.com and I still cry every night when thinking about the traumatic experience
ps the "undies" joke has been used for 3 years now, hit me with something I haven't heard before please :)
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translation: earl is teh ghey.
never been banned by anyone cause I don't post there noodle neck!
get off everyones nuts noodle dick!
you be teh ghey!
Levroe's number one FAN pantie sniffer
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does Layne write for a mag? it seems he's been around, collecting phds, forever.
he needs a ne wwebsite you GEEK get on it sheep boy!
fall in line like a good lil twerp
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translation: earl is teh ghey.
never been banned by anyone cause I don't post there noodle neck!
get off everyones nuts noodle dick!
you be teh ghey!
Levroe's number one FAN pantie sniffer
intentionally spelling the word "the" wrong makes you a dork and gay :P
if you weren't banned by layne than that just makes you a jealous, miserable, insecure hater haha atleast if you were banned by him you would have an excuse for being a whining little bitch ahahahaha ;D
you are on my nuts and layne's nuts :)
and you continuing the played out pantie sniffer jokes shows that you are too stupid to come up with anything original 8)
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intentionally spelling the word "the" wrong makes you a dork and gay :P
if you weren't banned by layne than that just makes you a jealous, miserable, insecure hater haha atleast if you were banned by him you would have an excuse for being a whining little bitch ahahahaha ;D
you are on my nuts and layne's nuts :)
and you continuing the played out pantie sniffer jokes shows that you are too stupid to come up with anything original 8)
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are you denying you sniff levrone's panties earl?
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are you denying you sniff levrone's panties earl?
yeah why would I sniff his when I sniff your girlfriend's panties :P
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Does Layne have website? Are there any links to articles he has written?
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Does Layne have website? Are there any links to articles he has written?
I think it's something like biolayne.com
his articles are all over bb.com
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no, just a ridiculously inappropriate use of a word.
it's like he's trying to sound intelligent but all he's doing is sounding insecure.
it's lifting weights, not shakespear.
You could say the same about mohammad ali... this is boxing not poetry. I think it's rather motivating and less riduculous then saying "nothing but a peanut". I don't see how saying such a sentence makes him seem insecure. I just don't get where your coming from. Maybe you should start "trying to sound intelligent" and explain how this is nothing but a man with insecurities. Hell I don't think he's that big of a deal, His legs are shit and he's just too tall to fill out his frame naturally. Jeff Rodriguez should do a guest spot on that show to represent some true natural talent.
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:i feel compelled to lift weights" doesnt even really make sense.. "i have an urge to lift", or.."something inside of me drives me to lift"...... but i think it would be a very rare situation in which someone would feel "compelled" to lift.
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:i feel compelled to lift weights" doesnt even really make sense.. "i have an urge to lift", or.."something inside of me drives me to lift"...... but i think it would be a very rare situation in which someone would feel "compelled" to lift.
Yeah apparently it's too complicated for some... It's not like he made it up. I've heard it before.
and the exact quote is "I feel compelled to move something baby!"
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Layne deadlifting 495 for five with the trap bar:
How does that bar change the mechanics of the lift?
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Layne deadlifting 495 for five with the trap bar:
How does that bar change the mechanics of the lift?
moves it more towards the centerline of your body and kind of makes it more of a leg and hip movement than a pure back movement as with the straight bar, the thing i always hated about the trap bar is that you're stuck with one grip width and i always found the handles to be too wide for deadlfting.
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moves it more towards the centerline of your body and kind of makes it more of a leg and hip movement than a pure back movement as with the straight bar, the thing i always hated about the trap bar is that you're stuck with one grip width and i always found the handles to be too wide for deadlfting.
Surprisingly good and accurate answer by you Squad! 8)
Props!
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oh yeah. this guy is A FUCKING BEAST!
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looks like michael phelps
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lol looked more like hannibal lecter to me ;D
here's a cool interview 8)
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I had no idea Layne was this strong:
He's easily bigger and stronger than most juicers.
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oh yeah. this guy is A FUCKING BEAST!
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looks like michael phelps
He looks good in the gym, but that was fucking homo.
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You could say the same about mohammad ali... this is boxing not poetry. I think it's rather motivating and less riduculous then saying "nothing but a peanut". I don't see how saying such a sentence makes him seem insecure. I just don't get where your coming from. Maybe you should start "trying to sound intelligent" and explain how this is nothing but a man with insecurities. Hell I don't think he's that big of a deal, His legs are shit and he's just too tall to fill out his frame naturally. Jeff Rodriguez should do a guest spot on that show to represent some true natural talent.
please don't compare layne norton to muhammad ali ever again. it's gay enough that this pretender becomes a discussion point, but he should never ever be mentioned in the same paragraph as ali (granted, you don't actually use paragraphs).
the difference is that layne using that word (i can't believe the stuff we talk about here) sounds pretentious and vain. it's like he's trying too hard to impress on his audience that he is not just a bodybuilder, that he has a good command of vocabulary also. unfortunately the impression your left with is of an insecure bber that is trying too hard to sound intelligent (for whatever reason). ali used wit and catchy rhymes. big difference.
earl, i'll swap your sister's panties for my girlfriend's. actually that's my ex-girlfriend's panties. when i found out she wasn't actually a girl but kevin levrone dressed in drag i dumped her on the spot.
fuck it, no deal. you can keep his panties. :-*
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Layne is stronger than Jay Cutler on deadlifts...what a joke. ;D
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Layne is stronger than Jay Cutler on deadlifts...what a joke. ;D
how do you know that matt?
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Layne is stronger than Jay Cutler on deadlifts...what a joke. ;D
Well they are both on the sauce, and jay doesn't train ego.
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Well they are both on the sauce, and jay doesn't train ego.
i think matt maybe talking straight from the rectum on this one. ;)
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how do you know that matt?
Based on videos it appears that Jay would exhibit around the same level of difficulty as Layne on 550 deadlifts for reps, if not a little more.
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Layne you have an appalling structure for bodybuilding! You also need to work on your posing as you appear way to feminine in many shots.
Hang in there, the industry needs more personalities.
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Based on videos it appears that Jay would exhibit around the same level of difficulty as Layne on 550 deadlifts for reps, if not a little more.
damn, i don't recall ever seeing jay do powerlifting style deadlifts with the trap bar.
have you got any footage of that matt?
where and when did you see jay doing those?
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damn, i don't recall ever seeing jay do powerlifting style deadlifts with the trap bar.
have you got any footage of that matt?
where and when did you see jay doing those?
exactly what i thought you lying little prick. ;D
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exactly what i thought you lying little prick. ;D
brutal gimmic user
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so who's this Layne Norton fag? some fag?
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brutal gimmic user
i don't think matt c's a gimmick.
say whatever you like about jay but keep it real.
to say that norton is stronger than jay just because jay doesn't choose to powerlift trap bar deadlifts ffs is disingenuous and unfair.
makes me question the integrity if your reviews matt?
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i don't think matt c's a gimmick.
say whatever you like about jay but keep it real.
to say that norton is stronger than jay just because jay doesn't choose to powerlift trap bar deadlifts ffs is disingenuous and unfair.
makes me question the integrity if your reviews matt?
just looked like it cause you quoted and agreed with yourself.
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He is definitely on the sauce, no doubt.
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He is definitely on the sauce, no doubt.
Bigger at contest time, and shredded. No doubt here. He is a hypocrite. Just like michael locket
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just looked like it cause you quoted and agreed with yourself.
lol
nah, i was just highlighting the quote.
what is it with these pussies that run like little school girls when you call them on their bullshit?
what's wrong with saying, "yep, sorry, i was talking out of my ass again."
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lol looked more like hannibal lecter to me ;D
here's a cool interview 8)
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Too much interest in general is applied to Layne, so I won't comment. BUT, his lady is cute! I had some inappropriate thoughts while watching that vid!
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just listened to him on md radio talking about prep with polumbo...dude knows his shit or at least I think he does cause he was talking way over my head. Really is his development that crazy that it's hard to believe he's natty? I've only seen a couple of pics and he didn't look drugged up to me but I'm a little niave about what a natty can acomplsih so post a pic that you feel proves he's drugged up.
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i listened to the radio show now.
i have to agree on Dave Palumbos view on diet for cutting.
like Dave said. the scientific studies Layne reilies on are not made on actuall bodybuilders.
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his lady is not cute at all.
but what would you expect from a guy with a face like that???
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his lady is not cute at all.
but what would you expect from a guy with a face like that???
brutal jealousy.
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Layne will eventually use steroids. He is already into carbing up and major fat burning. Day in an day out he is in the gym training people, all the while seeing guys using 500mg Test E blow him away. I can appreciate his desire to stay natural but it will not last. From the look of his pictures he is already dabbling something (clen maybe? diuretic?).
When this day comes we will all be better off. The kid will refocus his energy on understanding how best to use roids and peptides. Can't wait for him to turn to the Darkside....completely. :)
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Layne will eventually use steroids. He is already into carbing up and major fat burning. Day in an day out he is in the gym training people, all the while seeing guys using 500mg Test E blow him away. I can appreciate his desire to stay natural but it will not last. From the look of his pictures he is already dabbling something (clen maybe? diuretic?).
When this day comes we will all be better off. The kid will refocus his energy on understanding how best to use roids and peptides. Can't wait for him to turn to the Darkside....completely. :)
ahahahaha Look at you acting as if you are some wise old BBing Guru who knows exactly whats going through his head.
Maybe you can call him and advise him seeing as you know so much!
ta ta
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Layne will eventually use steroids. He is already into carbing up and major fat burning. Day in an day out he is in the gym training people, all the while seeing guys using 500mg Test E blow him away. I can appreciate his desire to stay natural but it will not last. From the look of his pictures he is already dabbling something (clen maybe? diuretic?).
When this day comes we will all be better off. The kid will refocus his energy on understanding how best to use roids and peptides. Can't wait for him to turn to the Darkside....completely. :)
haha and since he's such a scientific guy he will eventually turn into a human science experiment like palumbo ;D
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nah. i really think hes smart enough to stay natural.
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not natural, look at his competition and offseason pics.
bigger at competition time then he is in the offseason (no it's not the ripped look that makes it look bigger)
means small amounts of test, and hgh/slin/igf are used
natural when tested, but not in reality.
looks pretty crap for a juicer to be honest
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please don't compare layne norton to muhammad ali ever again. it's gay enough that this pretender becomes a discussion point, but he should never ever be mentioned in the same paragraph as ali (granted, you don't actually use paragraphs).
the difference is that layne using that word (i can't believe the stuff we talk about here) sounds pretentious and vain. it's like he's trying too hard to impress on his audience that he is not just a bodybuilder, that he has a good command of vocabulary also. unfortunately the impression your left with is of an insecure bber that is trying too hard to sound intelligent (for whatever reason). ali used wit and catchy rhymes. big difference.
earl, i'll swap your sister's panties for my girlfriend's. actually that's my ex-girlfriend's panties. when i found out she wasn't actually a girl but kevin levrone dressed in drag i dumped her on the spot.
fuck it, no deal. you can keep his panties. :-*
Attacking the fact that I didn't use paragraphs? You're here double spacing most of your posts; As you say, trying to seem more intelligent than you actually are. It's as if you're looking to impress someone which is what you are trying to say about layne... "insecure"?
I'm not comparing Ali's talent, showmanship, determination or anything unrealated to the fact that he used his vocabulary to voice his thoughts. You could say you compared Layne to Shakespear "(i can't believe the stuff we talk about here)" Because he wasn't, in your opinion Quietly workingout.
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damn, i don't recall ever seeing jay do powerlifting style deadlifts with the trap bar.
have you got any footage of that matt?
where and when did you see jay doing those?
Jay struggles to do 495 for reps and I'm sure Layne could match him if not top him. Just because Jay is Mr. Olympia doesn't mean he's stronger than Layne.
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Jay struggles to do 495 for reps and I'm sure Layne could match him if not top him. Just because Jay is Mr. Olympia doesn't mean he's stronger than Layne.
Matt, are you homosexual?
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Jay struggles to do 495 for reps and I'm sure Layne could match him if not top him. Just because Jay is Mr. Olympia doesn't mean he's stronger than Layne.
I don't think people realize how strong Jay is. Anyone who's seen his video "one step closer," and has done a bbing competition, knows how strong you have to be to rep out 9 plates on T-bar rows 3 weeks out from a show....not to mention 500lb deads, bent rows, 200lb dumbell rows, and whatever else he did in that video.
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not natural, look at his competition and offseason pics.
bigger at competition time then he is in the offseason (no it's not the ripped look that makes it look bigger)
means small amounts of test,and hgh/slin/igf are used
natural when tested, but not in reality.
looks pretty crap for a juicer to be honest
he's 230 contest and probably 200 or a little under for a contest. Stop talking about shit you know nothing about.
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Attacking the fact that I didn't use paragraphs? You're here double spacing most of your posts; As you say, trying to seem more intelligent than you actually are. It's as if you're looking to impress someone which is what you are trying to say about layne... "insecure"?
I'm not comparing Ali's talent, showmanship, determination or anything unrealated to the fact that he used his vocabulary to voice his thoughts. You could say you compared Layne to Shakespear "(i can't believe the stuff we talk about here)" Because he wasn't, in your opinion Quietly workingout.
ok, i see we're still harping on about layne's gym vocabulary. ::)
i use paragraphs with spacing to make my posts easier to read, but i do accept reading might present some difficulty to you with layne's testicles blocking your vision. :-*
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Jay struggles to do 495 for reps and I'm sure Layne could match him if not top him. Just because Jay is Mr. Olympia doesn't mean he's stronger than Layne.
i'll make it easy for you matt.
you have never seen jay do trap bar deadlifts powerlifting style.
accept the fact that you've been owned and quietly walk away with some dignity. ;)
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Layne are you really a metro-sexual? I am aware you have many feminine characteristics but a nattie-metro i was not!
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brutal jealousy.
hahahahahahhaahha
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Layne you have an appalling structure for bodybuilding! You also need to work on your posing as you appear way to feminine in many shots.
Hang in there, the industry needs more personalities.
HANK RETURNS!
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Matt C i think you forgot that Jay did 495lb stiff-leg deadlifts in his One Step Closer video, with textbook form i might add, i think he did 7 continuous reps. imo he could deadlift 650 for 2-3 at his strongest but who knows, could be more or could be less, he sure is strong! relatively speaking, of course
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Matt C i think you forgot that Jay did 495lb stiff-leg deadlifts in his One Step Closer video, with textbook form i might add, i think he did 7 continuous reps. imo he could deadlift 650 for 2-3 at his strongest but who knows, could be more or could be less, he sure is strong! relatively speaking, of course
yes, i think matt was being disingenuous in a pathetic attempt to prove a point at jay's expense.
makes you wonder about the quality, credibility and honesty of those reviews that he does. :-\
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on One Step Closer Jay did 5 plates on deadlifts off a rack without touching the bar to the floor for 6-7, 365 for 10 reverse grip bb row, 9 plates T bar for 6 and 180 pound one arm db row for 10.
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Offcourse he did ::)
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Offcourse he did ::)
hahaha, what did you and your dutch boyfriend do last night "mars"?
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Hahahaha we played hide and seek.
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on One Step Closer Jay did 5 plates on deadlifts off a rack without touching the bar to the floor for 6-7, 365 for 10 reverse grip bb row, 9 plates T bar for 6 and 180 pound one arm db row for 10.
This sums it up. All the reviews and weights are also on my website if anyone is interested. I'm sure Layne is close to all of this and he hasn't been on GH since kindergarten. Jay is strong on an absolute scale, but not in relation to his size and how much juice he uses. Layne is putting up similar numbers and is 100 pounds lighter. Layne told me he can do 315 for eight on the bench press even after not doing flat bench for three months and I believe him.
Go ask Jay to perform the 550 trap bar deadlifts and tell me how many reps he gets. I think you would be surprised.
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This sums it up. All the reviews and weights are also on my website if anyone is interested. I'm sure Layne is close to all of this and he hasn't been on GH since kindergarten. Jay is strong on an absolute scale, but not in relation to his size and how much juice he uses. Layne is putting up similar numbers and is 100 pounds lighter. Layne told me he can do 315 for eight on the bench press even after not doing flat bench for three months and I believe him.
Go ask Jay to perform the 550 trap bar deadlifts and tell me how many reps he gets. I think you would be surprised.
so what you're saying is that you HAVE NEVER actually seen jay do trap bar deadlifts at all?
you're now saying that jay IS stronger "but not in relation to his size and how much juice he uses". so you know for a fact that jay uses a lot of juice and layne has been completely natural since "kindergarten"? how long have you known layne so personally ???
how do you know all these facts matt? i mean, apart from layne telling them to you and the ones you surmised all by yourself without any evidence whatsoever?
hmmm, smells like bullshit to me. ;)
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so what you're saying is that you HAVE NEVER actually seen jay do trap bar deadlifts at all?
you're now saying that jay IS stronger "but not in relation to his size and how much juice he uses". so you know for a fact that jay uses a lot of juice and layne has been completely natural since "kindergarten"? how long have you known layne so personally ???
how do you know all these facts matt? i mean, apart from layne telling them to you and the ones you surmised all by yourself without any evidence whatsoever?
hmmm, smells like bullshit to me. ;)
Stop over analyzing this. It's obvious to anyone who has seen videos of both Jay and Layne train that they are at very comparable levels, with Layne beating Jay in some areas and vice versa. The edge overall would go to Jay, but I wouldn't be surprised if Layne beats him on deadlifts, trap bar or not.
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This sums it up. All the reviews and weights are also on my website if anyone is interested. I'm sure Layne is close to all of this and he hasn't been on GH since kindergarten. Jay is strong on an absolute scale, but not in relation to his size and how much juice he uses. Layne is putting up similar numbers and is 100 pounds lighter. Layne told me he can do 315 for eight on the bench press even after not doing flat bench for three months and I believe him.
Go ask Jay to perform the 550 trap bar deadlifts and tell me how many reps he gets. I think you would be surprised.
oh i agree with you on Layne, Matt, he's a very strong and very hard trainer, i believe that the only thing Jay would be stronger on than Layne is pressing movements due to having 70-75 pounds more bodyweight but on everything else layne is right there with him which is testament to his work ethic as a natural.
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Layne is stronger than Jay Cutler on deadlifts...what a joke. ;D
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Stop over analyzing this. It's obvious to anyone who has seen videos of both Jay and Layne train that they are at very comparable levels, with Layne beating Jay in some areas and vice versa. The edge overall would go to Jay, but I wouldn't be surprised if Layne beats him on deadlifts, trap bar or not.
hmmm, still smells like bullshit to me. ;)
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hmmm, still smells like bullshit to me. ;)
i don't know Beast, you can tell that Jay isn't a guy who's spent a lot of time deadlifting in his life, it looks like he started doing them when he realized he needed a lot more back thickness to beat Ronnie, he struggled with 495 for 7 on his video not even touching the floor between reps.
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i don't know Beast, you can tell that Jay isn't a guy who's spent a lot of time deadlifting in his life, it looks like he started doing them when he realized he needed a lot more back thickness to beat Ronnie, he struggled with 495 for 7 on his video not even touching the floor between reps.
Another good assessment. No matter how you cut it, Layne and Jay are close. 550 for five, even with the trap bar, is no joke.
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i don't know Beast, you can tell that Jay isn't a guy who's spent a lot of time deadlifting in his life, it looks like he started doing them when he realized he needed a lot more back thickness to beat Ronnie, he struggled with 495 for 7 on his video not even touching the floor between reps.
jay is no ronnie coleman, agreed, but that 495lb was of the stiff legged variety and he did 7 reps in a fairly smooth style. as you say, not touching the floor between reps.
anyone that has spent some time deadlifting knows that if you drop it all the way to floor and take the tension off between reps it provides a good base to refocus, fill up your body with air and power out another rep and so on.
besides this point, the trap bar keeps the weight centred and closer to the power axis (centre of the body), whereas a stiff legged deadlift with continuous tension the way jay did them is much harder to perform because the weight is in front of the body and thus creates greater leverage tension.
in short, the stiff legged deadlifts executed the way jay does in his vid are much harder to perform than the trap bar power lifts displayed by layne.
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jay is no ronnie coleman, agreed, but that 495lb was of the stiff legged variety and he did 7 reps in a fairly smooth style. as you say, not touching the floor between reps.
Layne has done that. I just wish I could find the clip...it might have been 405 though, but if I recall correctly it was 495.
Check out Layne's clips here:
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Layne has done that. I just wish I could find the clip...it might have been 405 though, but if I recall correctly it was 495.
Check out Layne's clips here:
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lmao
jesus matt, you are a riot. ;D
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lmao
jesus matt, you are a riot. ;D
Your debating skills are along the lines of TA's and Christian fundamentalists. Even when I present proof you still go on as if you've won.
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Your debating skills are along the lines of TA's and Christian fundamentalists. Even when I present proof you still go on as if you've won.
what proof matt?
you can't find any clips of layne doing stiff legged deads continuous tension smooth with 495 for 7, but you think there's one, but then it might be 405lbs.
you've never seen jay do trap bar deadlifts powerlifting style like layne did, but you think that if he did he would be weaker than layne.
then you revised that assertion to "wouldn't be surprised if layne beats him on deadlifts."
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Your debating skills are along the lines of TA's and Christian fundamentalists. Even when I present proof you still go on as if you've won.
Sounds alot like you when you claimed eating a diet of whatever you wanted didn't work. Intresting how all you can do is reassert your claim.
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not natural, look at his competition and offseason pics.
bigger at competition time then he is in the offseason (no it's not the ripped look that makes it look bigger)
means small amounts of test, and hgh/slin/igf are used
natural when tested, but not in reality.
looks pretty crap for a juicer to be honest
Bingo!
Matt C- Anavar, Anadrol, Test Sus- Layne will not outlift Jay w/o these in his system. Also, aren't you comparing an offseason Layne to a very low bodyfat pre Olympia Jay from his videos?? At least compare lifts when they are both offseason before you say Norton is stronger....which...is pretty laughable. :P
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Bingo!
Matt C- Anavar, Anadrol, Test Sus- Layne will not outlift Jay w/o these in his system. Also, aren't you comparing an offseason Layne to a very low bodyfat pre Olympia Jay from his videos?? At least compare lifts when they are both offseason before you say Norton is stronger....which...is pretty laughable. :P
It's not laughable. It would be laughable to state Layne is stronger than Ronnie. It would not be laughable to compare Layne to Jay. It would be like me comparing my strength to that of my training partner. We are both close and if one is stronger, it's only very marginally, just like Layne and Jay.
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I think Beast is totally correct, Layne's 495lb for 5 is strong but 495lb for 7, continous and even with a few pauses while maintaining strict form is rediculous. When was the last time you saw anyone do that? I think your just lookin at numbers and seeing 495, but forgetting in that style that Jay does it, takes incredible strength and is nothing like just lifting 495lb off the floor for a few times
Matt is a cool guy the website is decent but i gotta say everytime you review something it seems you always bring up you or your training partner...im not saying you do it for every video review, but a lot of them there is usually something
"think it's possible to do this and keep your sanity, but some like Jay and myself will not get frustrated with a bland diet like this."
"At first it seemed as if he was no stronger than me, but I was pretty sure this wasn't the case. The 100 pound dumbbells were just a warmup and he quit way before failure. "
and for Gunter's Star Power you went off on a craig titus meltdown
"At home, Gunter cooked a post workout meal and proved to be quite the chef. Nutrition is a great bodybuilding expense, and Gunter looked to be eating properly and have on hand all the necessary ingredients for muscle building nutrition. I heard talk that Craig Titus and Kelly Ryan both ate a horrible diet, and given Craig's recklessness with drugs and his horrid lifestyle in general I don't doubt that. On this topic, and I think it's an important one: Gunter Schlierkamp is everything a bodybuilder should aspire to be, and Craig Titus is everything that a bodybuilder shouldn't aspire to be. Craig was and still is a complete disgrace to bodybuilding and I hope he rots in jail for the rest of his life. I don't have a well formed view on the death penalty, but in general I am against it. Either way, I do hope hte punishment fits the crime for Titus and he remains in jail should he be found guilty, and so far I have every inclination to believe he will be. Gunter on the other hand, is a role model in the industry and we need more like him around."
There are others but I mean come on dude! :-X
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Yes, it's normal for me to have meltdowns while reviewing DVDs. A good example is my review of Gary Strydom's DVD when he kept talking about how bodybuilding success is achieved through a healthy diet. ::) He kept going on and on as if professional bodybuilding is healthy.
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I am not sure, but I think I remember seeing Jay doing 405 on inclines which is very good.
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Sounds alot like you when you claimed eating a diet of whatever you wanted didn't work. Intresting how all you can do is reassert your claim.
the leafy bug reduces those calories and gets shredded...the natural ideal.
in regards to the weights argument. jay moves that weight slow, controlled and with ease.
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I am not sure, but I think I remember seeing Jay doing 405 on inclines which is very good.
Yes, he is stronger than Layne on pressing movements. Jay's max bench is probably around 455 while Layne's is probably around 385
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ha ha this is the most comical thread ever.
Layne on the same level as Jay LOL
Layne couldn't win shit, clean or jacked except little teeny sorry ass pansy natural shows.
windexfather is GAY earl is a homo too. they should get together and have a matt C sammich another gay loving muscle worshipper.
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ha ha this is the most comical thread ever.
Layne on the same level as Jay LOL
Layne couldn't win shit, clean or jacked except little teeny sorry ass pansy natural shows.
windexfather is GAY earl is a homo too. they should get together and have a matt C sammich another gay loving muscle worshipper.
Strength not size. Let's say Jay's maximum deadlift is 650. Layne's is close, possibly over even, but definitely close. Same goes for Jay's maximum squat and bench press. In both cases, Layne is close. I'm not sure where the confusion is here. I don't think anyone said Layne could beat him in a bodybuilding contest.
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Strength not size. Let's say Jay's maximum deadlift is 650. Layne's is close, possibly over even, but definitely close. Same goes for Jay's maximum squat and bench press. In both cases, Layne is close. I'm not sure where the confusion is here. I don't think anyone said Layne could beat him in a bodybuilding contest.
the confusion is some people get caught up on size some strength some fat some skinny he's strong and done exceptional with his genetics but still wouldn't fare well in the TU or any top level natty show. his arrogance and demeanor makes people despise him, you have seen his posing videos right, and all the times he talks down to people like he is the GOD of protein metabolism.
Honestly he doesn't eve look like he works out in most of the vids he's got long lanky muscles and limbs and destined to be skinny looking even if he took a gh15 cycle he'd still look like a bigger skinny bulked person...just like squat fatter will always be fat and you will alwalys brag about your accomplishments school and gonna be a millionaire and other crap most spew on here but that's cool it's getbig not real life....
laynes a punk plain and simple a bb.com punk ass at it's finest....
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how many strong guys do you know that are fat?
How many do you know that are skinny?
I know plenty, strenght is more than muscle size.
I know some giant mother fkers that can't bench 315 but their arms are bigger than your legs and their barrell chests could give Arnold pause in his days.
nobody gives a shit what people do in the gym.
walk around and be a bad ass , swallow some juice get a job and life and actually start gaining some muscle you won't die you'll be happy self confident and actually get laid matthew! :D
hope that helps you my genius mathematical nobel peace prize canadian ice monster!!
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ok, i see we're still harping on about layne's gym vocabulary. ::)
i use paragraphs with spacing to make my posts easier to read, but i do accept reading might present some difficulty to you with layne's testicles blocking your vision. :-*
Poor retort... I never said I had a difficult time reading.. you did. Maybe you should stick to the Babysitters club son. Everything will be spaced out nicely for you.
On another Note, like I said before I don't think Layne is as great as some people make him out to be. His legs are shit and his overall symmetry and aesthetics are pretty weak but I do think he has done a decent job with what he has been given. People are just attacking him without any reason. I still don't understand why you got so offensive because of Layne saying "I feel compelled to move something".
If you think the guy is a prick give me something other then "I don't like the way he talks"
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how many strong guys do you know that are fat?
How many do you know that are skinny?
I know plenty, strenght is more than muscle size.
I know some giant mother fkers that can't bench 315 but their arms are bigger than your legs and their barrell chests could give Arnold pause in his days.
nobody gives a shit what people do in the gym.
walk around and be a bad ass , swallow some juice get a job and life and actually start gaining some muscle you won't die you'll be happy self confident and actually get laid matthew! :D
hope that helps you my genius mathematical nobel peace prize canadian ice monster!!
Dude.
How many times have I said that women are more attracted to a man's face than anything else? I think guys who think that muscles matter the most are usually big and ugly dudes. ;D
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The reason why people have a problem with Layne and True Adonis is because the two are "regular people" just like them--but are getting a fan base becuase they have the guts to speak their minds.
Anytime you speak your mind you'll have fans and detractors.
The detractors realize they may have better bodies or more knowledge than layne or Adonis but they don't have the guts.
They wish they had the guts and resent Layne and Adonis for beating them to the punch.
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the confusion is some people get caught up on size some strength some fat some skinny he's strong and done exceptional with his genetics but still wouldn't fare well in the TU or any top level natty show. his arrogance and demeanor makes people despise him, you have seen his posing videos right, and all the times he talks down to people like he is the GOD of protein metabolism.
Honestly he doesn't eve look like he works out in most of the vids he's got long lanky muscles and limbs and destined to be skinny looking even if he took a gh15 cycle he'd still look like a bigger skinny bulked person...just like squat fatter will always be fat and you will alwalys brag about your accomplishments school and gonna be a millionaire and other crap most spew on here but that's cool it's getbig not real life....
laynes a punk plain and simple a bb.com punk ass at it's finest....
Explain it like this Beast That's what I'm asking
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Dude.
How many times have I said that women are more attracted to a man's face than anything else? I think guys who think that muscles matter the most are usually big and ugly dudes. ;D
You've said it alot!
That's why we wonder if you are a homosexual.
You definately have an opinion as to what you find attractive in a man.
Not that there's anything wrong with that........
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You've said it alot!
That's why we wonder if you are a homosexual.
You definately have an opinion as to what you find attractive in a man.
Not that there's anything wrong with that........
Matt comes across as having no self confidence. He's always worried about what people are going to think about him. He needs to stop thinking so much and just live his life.
You always voice your opinion on what/who you'd like to look like, just improve yourself and be yourself Matt
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You've said it alot!
That's why we wonder if you are a homosexual.
You definately have an opinion as to what you find attractive in a man.
Not that there's anything wrong with that........
LOL ;D
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Dude.
How many times have I said that women are more attracted to a man's face than anything else? I think guys who think that muscles matter the most are usually big and ugly dudes. ;D
i think we've identified the problem with you matt.
how many reviews of bbing videos have you done and you still can't tell the difference between a stiff legged deadlift performed in a smooth continuous tension style and power lifting style trap bar deadlifts with a release and pause at the floor.
maybe if, in your reviews, you focused less time on how attractive a bodybuilder looks and more time watching what they're actually doing you might get a clue about what you're talking about.
who knows, you might even put some size on those tooth picks wedged between your ass and the ground. ;)
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The reason why people have a problem with Layne and True Adonis is because the two are "regular people" just like them--but are getting a fan base becuase they have the guts to speak their minds.
rofl TA has a fan base? ;D
hahahah
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You've said it alot!
That's why we wonder if you are a homosexual.
You definately have an opinion as to what you find attractive in a man.
Not that there's anything wrong with that........
This is true.
i think we've identified the problem with you matt.
how many reviews of bbing videos have you done and you still can't tell the difference between a stiff legged deadlift performed in a smooth continuous tension style and power lifting style trap bar deadlifts with a release and pause at the floor.
maybe if, in your reviews, you focused less time on how attractive a bodybuilder looks and more time watching what they're actually doing you might get a clue about what you're talking about.
who knows, you might even put some size on those tooth picks wedged between your ass and the ground. ;)
True.
But I still don't see how you can't at least acknowledge that Layne and would be close in strength. I'm sure both Layne and Jay deadlift somewhere in the 600s at max. Layne's maximum bench press is probably only a hair under 405 where Jay's is probably in the mid 400s. I've never seen Jay squat anything insane. I'm sure Layne could hit 495 for a single and Jay might be at 585, but who knows. Point is, they are close, and in some ways, I'm sure Layne has more strength than Jay. He is definitely stronger pound for pound. I'm not sure where the disagreement is here.
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True.
But I still don't see how you can't at least acknowledge that Layne and would be close in strength. I'm sure both Layne and Jay deadlift somewhere in the 600s at max. Layne's maximum bench press is probably only a hair under 405 where Jay's is probably in the mid 400s. I've never seen Jay squat anything insane. I'm sure Layne could hit 495 for a single and Jay might be at 585, but who knows. Point is, they are close, and in some ways, I'm sure Layne has more strength than Jay. He is definitely stronger point for pound. I'm not sure where the disagreement is here.
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the bold print tells the story.
you make grandiose statements (layne is stronger than jay) based purely on speculation and, because you have been foolish enough to argue the point, we can now see that your opinion, not only has no factual basis, but has no qualification either as you simply have no idea what you're talking about. you don't even know the difference between a stiff legged deadlift performed smoothly with continuous tension and trap bar deadlifts performed powerlifting style with pause and release between reps.
you're nothing but a fan boy that gets mesmerised by a visual cue and then sees nothing else but that which excites him the most.
you should not be reviewing bodybuilding dvds matt. :-[
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the bold print tells the story.
you make grandiose statements (layne is stronger than jay) based purely on speculation and, because you have been foolish enough to argue the point, we can now see that your opinion, not only has no factual basis, but has no qualification either as you simply have no idea what you're talking about. you don't even know the difference between a stiff legged deadlift performed smoothly with continuous tension and trap bar deadlifts performed powerlifting style with pause and release between reps.
you're nothing but a fan boy that gets mesmerised by a visual cue and then sees nothing else but that which excites him the most.
you should not be reviewing bodybuilding dvds matt. :-[
Not true. I've watched all the video footage there is of both Layne and Jay training and it would be obvious to any objective observer they are close in strength. On the flat press, Jay handles the 160s with roughly the same form and intensity and Layne handles the 150s for instance. I've already cited examples of their maximum lifts giving an inflated deadlift for Jay because he has never deadlifted over 495 on video. Yet you assume he deadlifts more than someone who has been seen deadlifting 550 for reps, even if it is with the trap bar. This is not the same as saying Layne is as strong or stronger than Ronnie. In that case, there is no comparison. I'm simply stating that with Layne and Jay there IS a comparison. Put another way, Layne could not make it through Ronnie's workout or anything close to it. However, Layne could make it through one of Jay's workouts with only having to change the weights slightly for each set. They are comparable and Layne has the videos to prove it.
But forget about my opinion - are you saying that Jay is much stronger than Layne? Give evidence, including examples of both of their maximum lifts.
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one of jays engorged misshapen thighs is bigger than layne.
hope that helps.
I the same guy in the gym every week probably 220 5'6 clean bench 455 squat 545 and dead 545 every work out 2-3 times a week eat cheeseburgers and shit and whooopteee doooo.
looks like he don't even work out but strong.
layne's afellow geek like you matt but he's soo smart like you too.
maybe you'll graduate by the time you are 45!!!
Quit jerking off reviewing DVD's so much train a little bit eat some and get some pussy every once in a while you'll be happier!! ;D
trust me vitamin P does wonders for one you won't be so worried about how tall bb'ers are how ugly they are or their dick sizes either. :D ;D
enjoy life brother Matt C!!! Do something fun like poke fun at the fat loser geek squatfatter or the skinny jew boy anorexic adonis!!! :o :-*
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Not true. I've watched all the video footage there is of both Layne and Jay training and it would be obvious to any objective observer they are close in strength. On the flat press, Jay handles the 160s with roughly the same form and intensity and Layne handles the 150s for instance. I've already cited examples of their maximum lifts giving an inflated deadlift for Jay because he has never deadlifted over 495 on video. Yet you assume he deadlifts more than someone who has been seen deadlifting 550 for reps, even if it is with the trap bar. This is not the same as saying Layne is as strong or stronger than Ronnie. In that case, there is no comparison. I'm simply stating that with Layne and Jay there IS a comparison. Put another way, Layne could not make it through Ronnie's workout or anything close to it. However, Layne could make it through one of Jay's workouts with only having to change the weights slightly for each set. They are comparable and Layne has the videos to prove it.
But forget about my opinion - are you saying that Jay is much stronger than Layne? Give evidence, including examples of both of their maximum lifts.
matt, i'm not the one that made assumptions stupid, you did. ::)
you have absolutely no idea what a difference it makes in how you perform an exercise do you? never mind the fundamental differences between a p/lifter and a b/builder, do you have any clue whatsoever how easy trap bar deadlifts are performed in the same style layne did?
put it this way, if p/lifters could perform trap bar deadlifts the way layne did with wraps on instead of the traditional comp deadlift, you could add about another 1000lbs to the top d/lifts.
you obviously have no idea about leverage/axis points, acceleration, breathing/vasalva, technical skill (which a bber often tries to avoid) or how rest periods, continuous tension, speed of movement can GREATLY affect the amount of weight lifted.
YOU assumed jay was weaker than layne (yes that was your original point prior to backpedalling) based on 2 competely different exercises performed in a completely different style for a completely different purpose.
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I'd bet my ass layne could deadlift 495 traditional style with a straight bar.
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Matt, troponin already came in here and said that Jay is stronger and that you are underestimating his strength. Who else do we have to bring in to convince you?
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matt just likes to argue he is the type of a guy that will argue endlessly over height and dick size!
god help us all.
he know's he's wrong, layne's tiny and doesn't even look like he works out anus looks better than him but that is because he has an eating disorder but still he stays leaner than norton the geek.
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matt is squatfatter as strong as JAY too he benches 400, squats almost 600 and deads 500 all at an obese fat bodies weight of 220 lbs!
what a beast that's gotta be a world record with those chubby little greasy fingers and arms....tiny titts at it's best.
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Fine, then I will backpedal. But I still maintain that Jay and Layne are generally close in terms of strength. I cited maximum lifts and explained that Layne would generally be able to handle the weights Jay uses, give or take. You didn't refute that. As I said, I also do remember Layne doing stiff legged deadlifts off the rack with 495 just like Jay did. I will ask Layne about that. I didn't realize that the trap bar deadlifts were that much easier. Like I said, I would still bet Layne's maximum deadlift is in the 600s, just like Jay's. You also didn't say whether or not you agree with this.
you are unbelievable. ;D
you 'cited maximum lifts...' ??? to cite something is to actually refer to something based on fact. you are citing something that you retrieved from your rectum of which is based on 2 completely different exercised performed in completely different ways and for different rep ranges. this would not constitute any factual basis whatsoever.
matt, seriously, you have no idea of that which you are talking about and your bias to those you find attractive is obvious. how on earth can you give a balanced judgement with your reviews when you have this type of bias, not to mention your transparent contempt for those you think use steroids.
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Layme Norton is legend on the internet, in extreme natural bodybuilding circles.
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Layme Norton is legend on the internet, in extreme natural bodybuilding circles.
Layne Staley is the best natural legend
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Layne Staley is the best natural legend
he's dead right?
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Layne Staley is the best natural legend
Waddy you demolish Layne 'Staley' Physique wise though...You sure that Staley was a nattie though??
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Daddywaddy's face is near identical to Layne Staley's.
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Jay is way stronger. He just doesn't care to demonstrate it. I'm sure he could slap on 700+ in his next workout for a single if he wished. There is a definite relationship between size and strength. The amount of pure muscle Jay carries can generate a lot of force. Sure, Layne may have more favorable leverages etc but that's not enough to beat Jay in muscular strength.