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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Alex A on November 17, 2007, 07:41:44 AM
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I just wanted to let you know whats going on.
I was not judged, according to one of the judges I spoke with. My color, was simply ridiculous. On my way to the gym this morning I approached one of the judges from the show. These are his words "In his opinion of 25 years of judging he never had seen anything like it. Your face was black, color uneven and horrible, couldnt see any muscle seperation, couldt see anything, it washed you out, it was like you were not even there."
I totally agree looking at myself and now looking at myself after i scrubbed this shit off the color helped make me look flat, showed no seperation or lines, no grains and not much vascularity
Totall rookie move! Im first to admitt that.
I had it done right before the show and it was very uneven and actually just terrible. I
Its very hard to travel from Los Angeles to compete, alone. I didnt realize how hard. First of all, no microwave in the room, no fridge and you cant cook. I called ahead of time and was told there will be a microwave in each room and fridge and actually called twice to double check make sure.
That threw me way off and caused me some serious stress, especially the way I am about preparing food etc. It was tough. Being alone, I did worry, stess, etc with no one really to keep my spirits up about it. Lots of pressure from everyone. Hey, not to brag but my lost competition was a USA win. And before that a win at the L.A as a welter. I felt some pressure dont you think?
It was really tough to make sure I did all the right things at the end, even though all I had to do was the same that i did one week ago. Its not the same. The stress fucks your body up!
I had to make weight on thursdy wich stressed me out since i was over the limit leading up to this for a while and I had to cut out food and water. I was flat as hell and looked very small at the weigh in. NOt full at all. Then I never really ate or fillled out accordingly. I should have never come down to this with class. When I was posting my prep pics, i weighed in the low 160's
The number one reason, and I worry about this, I have to get this under control or I will never succeed here is this. For some reason, I stressed badly, causing myself to really hold water or muscle to break down. I knew i was in great shape, lean, but didnt quite look the same, at all!
I dont know why? I started losing weight and couldnt keep it on. i was drinking too much to try to fill out. My whole plan sorta faded out at the end here. Its much worse than just sitting back here and saying you should relax etc. I had so many people telling me different things.
I will not make excuses, this was a good learning experience for me. I did what I set out to do, and thats get in the best shape of my life.
I dont want to argue with Isaac. Like he said, hes a camera man, not a bodybuilder, hes not my friend or enemy. I know hes involved in the sport,. To Isaac, Im a no body, im not a mass monster, im not a big structred guy etc. But to me, hes no body. Thats just how it is. He isnt a bodybuilder or a friend etc. we mean nothing to eachother. No offense. I just dont prefere to start wars on the boards.
But he can post his pics of me not at my best( but thats what he saw)and say what he wants about me. But in a way, i dont blame him, thats what he does and he should do.
But l got some great feedback from some awesome bodyuilders, competitors, judges, etc.
I thought I did an awesome prep for this show, an awesome plan but I had some serious faults. One being over excited about getting in shape early. I probably should have slowed down in order to hold more of the muscle size that I had at two and a half weeks out. I did probably over train peaked a bit early probably and did not show up at my best the day of the show. So In a way, you can say, I fucked up. It is my fault. Of course is
If you read all of my posts. I dont think I ever said I would smoke anyone, beat anyone or even win. How can I ? Im not judging the show. I said I did the best prep and got in the best shape of my life, check out my progres etc. Many of you guys did the rest. Hopefully that didnt come accross as cocky, or arrogant. I think I have really tried to be pretty humble leading up to this.
I have a national win. A class win at the USA. Im proud of that.
That is huge for me! I dont have trainers, prep guys, a team of helpers and Im not a personal trainer. Like i said, im just a family guy that loves to train, workout, do cardio, eat clean and live healthy. I did post my prep pics, but never used them to compare to others, bad mouth anyone or even say I would win or anything. Just posted and answered questions. I explained to many guys, that Im a small guy, and conditioning is my strength. I compete becasue I want to put all the hard work to the test. I failed on this day!
But I have not failed as a bodybuilder. I am in shape all year. I do cardio all year. I carry my food with me all year. I dont half ass my workouts, I train alone. I have an awesome wife, kid, home etc. Its not my life. Im like most of you guys, into it, but just maybe alittle more than some, shit maybe less than some.
as far as training goes:
Im not changing nothing. I scrubbed off this tan and will re apply a normal coat of tan and thats it. I dont have any good pics of me because I looked like crap, so today Im going to work on getting some great pics to share!
I will go to the show tonight and just enjoy. Nothing changes for me. I plan on writing more about my feelings etc but they wont be bitter full of complaints etc. But I do have so much to talk about. Alot of awesome people in the sport have approached me with their opinons etc. I just cant make everyone happy, camera guys etc, friends of some competitors, some competitors maybe. It just cant happen. But I owe you guys a more indepth detail of this if you want to hear. Take care and thanks you guys! One last word. I think the judge nailed the placing appropriately. Especially in my class, after the weigh in I talked to my wife on the phone and told her who I thought would be the toughest guy in the class, he was the guy who won, and deserved it! peace out! alex a
P.S. Thanks guys! Lets keep in touch
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don't worry about it Alex, pull it together for the night show and kick some ass.
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just curious but,, who did your coloring? did you do it yourself? i mean,, WTF????
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Alex by putting it all out there you've gained alot of buds. Don't worry about Isaac, he was just pussy sore because I said the Flex shots sucked right after they went up before I knew it was him taking them, and he knows you're my boy so he had no mercy when it came to critiquing your showing. That's what all that was about; see how that works? ;D
What he said and showed was pretty much spot on, though. He just put it out there kinda unsympathetically, but you're exactly right; that is his job.
Isaac, I know they're pushing you to get the shots up really fast, and I appreciate the fast coverage. You did get some interesting shots going back and forth from the side and the center; that was a bold move. I'm just pussy sore because I wish I could help direct some of this action somehow, but I still don't know exactly what I could do for anyone, so there is probably some misdirected frustration coming from me, going to the wrong places. You are an excellent photographer, I am sure of that; it's not even a question as to whether or not you're as good as anyone else out there; you have some of the best shots on a very consistent basis and I've told you before that you're making the best-looking websites in the industry right now, etc. It's just frustrating for those of us trying to check out the weight classes when we can't see standardized shots of everyone in the lineup. One person can only do so much up there and I know you like the creative side of it more than you do the point-click-shoot-repeat monotony that comes with getting those standard shots, so you were just trying to mix it up. I don't blame you one bit.
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what was that shit, something from russia?
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respect.
mad respect.
alex,
anyone who competes has been there.
it isn't the challenge of winning that makes us do what we do- the thought of beating others in your class doesn't power you thru months weeks of prep, it's the challenge of knowing on that day, you couldn't have shown up better than you did.
it isn't like you did not prepare for this show. you were DICED. you were THERE. this alone should provide you with the comfort of knowing that you are knocking on the door.
you didnt lose. you didnt fail yourself, your family your friends or anyone on here.
take what you learned and turn it into the positive. get back on the horse. you have nothing to prove to anyone, just yourself now.
im not going to blow smoke up your ass and give you the whole' your a winner just cause you got up there'. thats not good enough and we both know it.
next year, finish it.
you know what to do, where things got de-railed. fix it and finish it.
you owe it to no one but yourself now.
best of luck in '08.
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Alex................ever y show is a learning experience (that's how we progress!)
your name is "out there" now,next show will be "your time!"
(have fun tonite/get some great pictures)
peace
Mike
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Alex................every show is a learning experience (that's how we progress!)
your name is "out there" now,next show will be "your time!"
(have fun tonite/get some great pictures)
peace
Mike
Right on, Mike. I wanna see Alex move into the welters next showing, just as ripped. He'll have more detail to show in his back after that; it'll be awesome. Alex you've GOTTA put on some size from here, man...what the hell else are you gonna do besides possibly help prep other people between now and then? I don't even think that after another year of training, regardless of what you do, that you could make weight for the lightweights anyway, you barely made it this time.
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You did your best.
Respect.
Good luck in the future.
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I just wanted to let you know whats going on.
I was not judged, according to one of the judges I spoke with. My color, was simply ridiculous. On my way to the gym this morning I approached one of the judges from the show, Link Swenson. These are his words "In his opinion of 25 years of judging he never had seen anything like it. Your face was black, color uneven and horrible, couldnt see any muscle seperation, couldt see anything, it washed you out, it was like you were not even there."
I totally agree looking at myself and now looking at myself after i scrubbed this shit off the color helped make me look flat, showed no seperation or lines, no grains and not much vascularity
Totall rookie move! Im first to admitt that. Link actually told me, "REDEME YOURSELF"
I had it done right before the show and it was very uneven and actually just terrible. I
Its very hard to travel from Los Angeles to compete, alone. I didnt realize how hard. First of all, no microwave in the room, no fridge and you cant cook. I called ahead of time and was told there will be a microwave in each room and fridge and actually called twice to double check make sure.
That threw me way off and caused me some serious stress, especially the way I am about preparing food etc. It was tough. Being alone, I did worry, stess, etc with no one really to keep my spirits up about it. Lots of pressure from everyone. Hey, not to brag but my lost competition was a USA win. And before that a win at the L.A as a welter. I felt some pressure dont you think?
It was really tough to make sure I did all the right things at the end, even though all I had to do was the same that i did one week ago. Its not the same. The stress fucks your body up! A judge told somoene that got back to me that "alex is breaking down muscle" when she saw me at the weigh in.
I had to make weight on thursdy wich stressed me out since i was over the limit leading up to this for a while and I had to cut out food and water. I was flat as hell and looked very small at the weigh in. NOt full at all. Then I never really ate or fillled out accordingly.
The number one reason, and I worry about this, I have to get this under control or I will never succeed here is this. For some reason, I stressed badly, causing myself to really hold water or muscle to break down. I knew i was in great shape, lean, but didnt quite look the same, at all!
I dont know why? I started losing weight and couldnt keep it on. i was drinking too much to try to fill out. My whole plan sorta faded out at the end here. Its much worse than just sitting back here and saying you should relax etc. I had so many people telling me different things.
I will not make excuses, this was a good learning experience for me. I did what I set out to do, and thats get in the best shape of my life.
I dont want to argue with Isaac. Like he said, hes a camera man, not a bodybuilder, hes not my friend or enemy. I know hes involved in the sport, but he has never been on stage but doesnt claim to have. To Isaac, Im a no body, im not a mass monster, im not a big structred guy etc. But to me, hes no body. Thats just how it is. He isnt a bodybuilder or a friend etc. we mean nothing to eachother. No offense. I just dont prefere to start wars on the boards.
But he can post his pics of me not at my best( but thats what he saw)and say what he wants about me. But in a way, i dont blame him, thats what he does and he should do.
But l got some great feedback from some awesome bodyuilders, competitors, judges, etc.
I thought I did an awesome prep for this show, an awesome plan but I had some serious faults. One being over excited about getting in shape early. I probably should have slowed down in order to hold more of the muscle size that I had at two and a half weeks out. I did probably over train peaked a bit early probably and did not show up at my best the day of the show. So In a way, you can say, I fucked up. It is my fault. Of course is
If you read all of my posts. I dont think I ever said I would smoke anyone, beat anyone or even win. How can I ? Im not judging the show. I said I did the best prep and got in the best shape of my life, check out my progres etc. Many of you guys did the rest. Hopefully that didnt come accross as cocky, or arrogant. I think I have really tried to be pretty humble leading up to this.
I have a national win. A class win at the USA. Im proud of that.
That is huge for me! I dont have trainers, prep guys, a team of helpers and Im not a personal trainer. Like i said, im just a family guy that loves to train, workout, do cardio, eat clean and live healthy. I compete becasue I want to put all the hard work to the test. I failed on this day!
But I have not failed as a bodybuilder. I am in shape all year. I do cardio all year. I carry my food with me all year. I dont half ass my workouts, I train alone. I have an awesome wife, kid, home etc. Its not my life. Im like most of you guys, into it, but just maybe alittle more than some, shit maybe less than some.
Im not done at all. I woke up sad, but Im cool. I dont have hard feelings. I did cardio this morning which is the day of the show, ate oatmeal, eggwhites etc.
Im not changing nothing. I scrubbed off this tan and will re apply a normal coat of tan and thats it. I dont have any good pics of me because I looked like crap, so today Im going to work on getting some great pics to share!
I will go to the show tonight and just enjoy. Nothing changes for me. I plan on writing more about my feelings etc, but they wont be bitter full of complaints etc. But I do have so much to talk about. Alot of awesome people in the sport have approached me with their opinons etc. I just cant make everyone happy, camera guys etc, friends of some competitors, some competitors maybe. It just cant happen. But I owe you guys a more indepth detail of this if you want to hear. Take care and thanks you guys! peace out! alex a
P.S. Thanks guys! Lets keep in touch
Inspirational...
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What tanning product or products did you use for this show? What did you use at theUSA?
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I noticed you losing your condition this last week....want to work with me to figure out what happened?...Noel
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I noticed you losing your condition this last week....want to work with me to figure out what happened?...Noel
hahahahahhaa, coming from a guy with no picture posted anywhere who claims to rep 465 on the bench yet won't post any proof. ::)
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Adversity is your greatest teacher, in the end you learn the most from your failures, not your victories.
Finish strong tonight,
Good job! ;)
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I noticed you losing your condition this last week....want to work with me to figure out what happened?...Noel
Get this spam shit out of here.
PM him if you want to do business.
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Lisp Studios is a queer though.
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Hey guys, I will get back to you asap, maybe be a while but I got some new color on and filling out by eating much more so I can get some good pics tonight. Thanks for everything. No offense to Isaac, it just seemed that he wanted to be damn sure that you know I didnt look so good. I never said shit about the quality of his photos, and photography is his job right? I did see him there and I know he doesnt bodybuild. Take care and ketcha later! alex a
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Much Respect Alex, enjoy tonight and learn from it. You look great and will succeed
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Hey guys, I will get back to you asap, maybe be a while but I got some new color on and filling out by eating much more so I can get some good pics tonight. Thanks for everything. No offense to Isaac, it just seemed that he wanted to be damn sure that you know I didnt look so good. I never said shit about the quality of his photos, and photography is his job right? I did see him there and I know he doesnt bodybuild. Take care and ketcha later! alex a
good luck Alex, fucck all the negativity bullshit, you're the REAL DEAL, collect your thoughts and kick some ass.
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Damn. All because of bad coloring. :-\
Live and learn, homie.
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Alex. I wanted to write something inspirational here but Mac and "no one" beat me to it and I couldn't have said it better anyway.
Just want to stress .... "Learn by your mistakes".
And I gotta add this ..... Lift Studios is actually a hell of a good guy. I am unaware of what he said and why and how he said it that caused the offense, but I hope that you meet up with him today and shakie his paw see him from the same side of the fence as I have.
Don't leave Texas with friendships unresolved.
And go out of your way to shake as many hands as you can with your fellow competitors and the officials and promoters too. That's called "Working the room" by those with positive attitudes. Negative people call it "Kissing asses".
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I just wanted to let you know whats going on.
I was not judged, according to one of the judges I spoke with. My color, was simply ridiculous. On my way to the gym this morning I approached one of the judges from the show, Link Swenson. These are his words "In his opinion of 25 years of judging he never had seen anything like it. Your face was black, color uneven and horrible, couldnt see any muscle seperation, couldt see anything, it washed you out, it was like you were not even there."
I totally agree looking at myself and now looking at myself after i scrubbed this shit off the color helped make me look flat, showed no seperation or lines, no grains and not much vascularity
Totall rookie move! Im first to admitt that. Link actually told me, "REDEME YOURSELF"
I had it done right before the show and it was very uneven and actually just terrible. I
Its very hard to travel from Los Angeles to compete, alone. I didnt realize how hard. First of all, no microwave in the room, no fridge and you cant cook. I called ahead of time and was told there will be a microwave in each room and fridge and actually called twice to double check make sure.
That threw me way off and caused me some serious stress, especially the way I am about preparing food etc. It was tough. Being alone, I did worry, stess, etc with no one really to keep my spirits up about it. Lots of pressure from everyone. Hey, not to brag but my lost competition was a USA win. And before that a win at the L.A as a welter. I felt some pressure dont you think?
It was really tough to make sure I did all the right things at the end, even though all I had to do was the same that i did one week ago. Its not the same. The stress fucks your body up! A judge told somoene that got back to me that "alex is breaking down muscle" when she saw me at the weigh in.
I had to make weight on thursdy wich stressed me out since i was over the limit leading up to this for a while and I had to cut out food and water. I was flat as hell and looked very small at the weigh in. NOt full at all. Then I never really ate or fillled out accordingly.
The number one reason, and I worry about this, I have to get this under control or I will never succeed here is this. For some reason, I stressed badly, causing myself to really hold water or muscle to break down. I knew i was in great shape, lean, but didnt quite look the same, at all!
I dont know why? I started losing weight and couldnt keep it on. i was drinking too much to try to fill out. My whole plan sorta faded out at the end here. Its much worse than just sitting back here and saying you should relax etc. I had so many people telling me different things.
I will not make excuses, this was a good learning experience for me. I did what I set out to do, and thats get in the best shape of my life.
I dont want to argue with Isaac. Like he said, hes a camera man, not a bodybuilder, hes not my friend or enemy. I know hes involved in the sport, but he has never been on stage but doesnt claim to have. To Isaac, Im a no body, im not a mass monster, im not a big structred guy etc. But to me, hes no body. Thats just how it is. He isnt a bodybuilder or a friend etc. we mean nothing to eachother. No offense. I just dont prefere to start wars on the boards.
But he can post his pics of me not at my best( but thats what he saw)and say what he wants about me. But in a way, i dont blame him, thats what he does and he should do.
But l got some great feedback from some awesome bodyuilders, competitors, judges, etc.
I thought I did an awesome prep for this show, an awesome plan but I had some serious faults. One being over excited about getting in shape early. I probably should have slowed down in order to hold more of the muscle size that I had at two and a half weeks out. I did probably over train peaked a bit early probably and did not show up at my best the day of the show. So In a way, you can say, I fucked up. It is my fault. Of course is
If you read all of my posts. I dont think I ever said I would smoke anyone, beat anyone or even win. How can I ? Im not judging the show. I said I did the best prep and got in the best shape of my life, check out my progres etc. Many of you guys did the rest. Hopefully that didnt come accross as cocky, or arrogant. I think I have really tried to be pretty humble leading up to this.
I have a national win. A class win at the USA. Im proud of that.
That is huge for me! I dont have trainers, prep guys, a team of helpers and Im not a personal trainer. Like i said, im just a family guy that loves to train, workout, do cardio, eat clean and live healthy. I compete becasue I want to put all the hard work to the test. I failed on this day!
But I have not failed as a bodybuilder. I am in shape all year. I do cardio all year. I carry my food with me all year. I dont half ass my workouts, I train alone. I have an awesome wife, kid, home etc. Its not my life. Im like most of you guys, into it, but just maybe alittle more than some, shit maybe less than some.
Im not done at all. I woke up sad, but Im cool. I dont have hard feelings. I did cardio this morning which is the day of the show, ate oatmeal, eggwhites etc.
Im not changing nothing. I scrubbed off this tan and will re apply a normal coat of tan and thats it. I dont have any good pics of me because I looked like crap, so today Im going to work on getting some great pics to share!
I will go to the show tonight and just enjoy. Nothing changes for me. I plan on writing more about my feelings etc, but they wont be bitter full of complaints etc. But I do have so much to talk about. Alot of awesome people in the sport have approached me with their opinons etc. I just cant make everyone happy, camera guys etc, friends of some competitors, some competitors maybe. It just cant happen. But I owe you guys a more indepth detail of this if you want to hear. Take care and thanks you guys! peace out! alex a
P.S. Thanks guys! Lets keep in touch
MELTDOWN
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Mike who the fuck are you? Please tell me you compete here in Oregon.
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Hey squadfather..your right i'm a nobody ..just a posting wannabe
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good luck Alex, fucck all the negativity bullshit, you're the REAL DEAL, collect your thoughts and kick some ass.
says the grand father of negativity ::)
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Damn Alex that's too bad! You busted your ass and your conditioning was the best I've seen. Keep your head up and keep at it man! Good luck.
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I noticed you losing your condition this last week....want to work with me to figure out what happened?...Noel
You're fucking kidding right? This guy was ripped to shreds. I'm not even going to start with you. >:(
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Pictures of Alex at the show here:
http://contests.ironmanmagazine.com/index.cfm?go2=contests_competitor&CompetitorID=9895
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I still think you are a great guy Alex A.
Looking forward to tonight's pictures
Sandra
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Dude that blows bro, you seriously had some rediculous conditioning...you keep going the way your going and you'll get to where you wanna be
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Pictures of Alex at the show here:
http://contests.ironmanmagazine.com/index.cfm?go2=contests_competitor&CompetitorID=9895
After looking at these compared to the pics you posted before you should have gone on stage dry. ;)
Definately your color screwed you. :'(
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In my opinion he looked better last week...he seemed to lose muscle fulness and vascularity....this could be due to stress and bad water depletion.
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I dont want to argue with Isaac. Like he said, hes a camera man, not a bodybuilder, hes not my friend or enemy. I know hes involved in the sport, but he has never been on stage but doesnt claim to have. To Isaac, Im a no body, im not a mass monster, im not a big structred guy etc. But to me, hes no body. Thats just how it is. He isnt a bodybuilder or a friend etc. we mean nothing to eachother. No offense. I just dont prefere to start wars on the boards.
But he can post his pics of me not at my best( but thats what he saw)and say what he wants about me. But in a way, i dont blame him, thats what he does and he should do.
Actually Alex I have competed, twice.
I was being honest with what was on stage and how I saw it. I have no horse in this race. I take photos of what's on stage I can't help that you weren't at your best.
Cheers.
Isaac
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yesterday is in the past, just focus on tonight Alex, good luck.
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Hey squadfather..your right i'm a nobody ..just a posting wannabe
prove me wrong, post AT LEAST A PICTURE or something that let's people know you're not full of shit, 465 for 6 reps on the bench you should have some type of picture or video of.
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isaccs photos look like they come from a point and shoot camera with everything set to auto!
Does this guy even no how to do manual white balance or change the f stops on his camera?
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I was asked in a thread how many times I benched 315 I didnt think I was on trial and needed proof...hell why would I vid that ..around here its no big deal...how can you have a pic of six reps LOL. I dont care if you believe me or not. This post is about contest prep..that I do have pics of.
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I was asked in a thread how many times I benched 315 I didnt think I was on trial and needed proof...hell why would I vid that ..around here its no big deal...how can you have a pic of six reps LOL. I dont care if you believe me or not. This post is about contest prep..that I do have pics of.
let's see the pics of you, any pics, doesn't have to be benching 315 for 28 which is total bullshit, you know it and i know it, just any pic will do.
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let me see pics of you sounds desperate...dude i really dont care what you believe.
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let's see the pics of you, any pics, doesn't have to be benching 315 for 28 which is total bullshit, you know it and i know it, just any pic will do.
he's lonely, give him a pic
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You did great reguardless of the color, the precontest photos were unbelievable.
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ALex, hope everything works out for you man, your a great roLe modeL for the sport, you know, a man of character and familY guy, who Looks like a ordinary person waLking the streets, no fat bloat look, no hight blood pressure look, etc, but kind of like ClarK Kent.....superman, with a kiLLer physiqu. Everythin wiLL work out for u, k.......Dont' get down man, the micorwawe, fridge happen to me before, my credit card even declIned at the host hoteL :o this is Mace from MM, have a good weekend, I"LL get a hoLd of you when you get back....focus on tonight, get it back, sendin you my best
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I was asked in a thread how many times I benched 315 I didnt think I was on trial and needed proof...hell why would I vid that ..around here its no big deal...how can you have a pic of six reps LOL. I dont care if you believe me or not. This post is about contest prep..that I do have pics of.
You should re-visit that thread and answer my ?'s about where/ what organization you competed in. ;)
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let's see the pics of you, any pics, doesn't have to be benching 315 for 28 which is total bullshit, you know it and i know it, just any pic will do.
swab fatty,
lets see that flattery picture of yourself again, its quite entertaining.
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it was in 93 and i cant remember the federation. It was at Byron Beebe's gym in Coos bay Oregon> Byron was this freak of nature that benched 480 at 185. So whatever federation he has his records in its probably that one. I was never a powerlifter. I just had a heavy chest day and Jim Johnston and i went to Coos bay and won the bench contest. Nikki went with us and i think she got 320 for one.
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Actually Alex I have competed, twice.
I was being honest with what was on stage and how I saw it. I have no horse in this race. I take photos of what's on stage I can't help that you weren't at your best.
Cheers.
Isaac
No bro, i have no beef with your photos at all. It was the other guys that said they suck. I never said anything. To me it seems a little unfair that you are being damn clear that you want everyone to know that I wasnt at my best and giving a blow by blow of how things went down. And its weird, i have never had a beef with you.
Im from Los Angeles. I go to all the local shows, have done all the local shows, and have worked my way up the ladder starting with LTs Junior Cal then working up to the USA's and my first nationals. I know nothing about you. But I do know, bodybuilding is not really your passion. Photography or websites are.
And I said, thats your opinion of what went down, but I have opinions from Judges, more than a couple, bodybuidlers, competitors in my class, competitors in other classes etc.
I just said, you are not a bodybuilder, or you dont look like one You carry around a camera and have set up websites or somthing. Somthing that really doesnt involve being a credible critic, in my opinion. Although, i have totally agreed with things you have said in the past as well. You are entitled to your opinions. But I certainly would not make a huge point of it to everyone how you fucked up, if you did fuck up some big photo gig. You know what I mean bro? Lets sey you busted your ass hard on somthing, everyones behind you and you bombed it out. And lets say, i saw it, it and it had somthing to do with webistes or phots and I went on here giving my opinion making damn sure everyone was clear that you fucked up. That wouldnt be too cool would it?
Most photographers dont give the best opinions of physiques because they are busy taking pics or should be focusing on taking pics not judging the show. So dont get me wrong, the point Im making is, my feedback differs a bit from yours of course and I want people to know other opinions not that of a camera man but of other bodybuilders, you can ask Dave polumbo or watch his interview with me and his predictions which were the day before the show thats it.
We can drop it from here. I rather not have bad feelings toward you because like i said, we dont give a shit about eachother. Im a family guy who busts his ass in his spare time to compete, thats it.
Your a camera guy, a website guy or whatever who did 2 shows, and thats cool, i didnt know. No hard feelings. The way you said it bro, was making it seem damn sure you wanted everyone to know were I should have place and how you thought I would have looked etc. and make it clear that it wasnt just my tan etc and that i was way off
I of course have heard other opinions. No prob though. You probably do take good pics, i dont know but dont really pay attention.
Keep your eyes out for pics of me taken today by Per Bernal From M.D with a new coat of tan. Take care and back to you guys soon.
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I wasn't referring to your thoughts on my photos. You made mention twice that I've never stepped on stage but you're incorrect in your assumptions and I pointed that out. You were all buds with me at check-in and before the show but when I point out the obvious you try to discredit with me by saying I'm not a bodybuilder. I never claimed to be a bodybuilder but I've dieted and know what it's like to be on stage. You can ask any judge, any photographer and anyone in the audience and if they're honest with you, they will tell you the same thing. It doesn't matter what you look liked the day before or 4 hours before, all that matters is how you looked on stage. You know that as well as anyone. You're taking an honest assessment personal and I understand it's hard not to because it's about you and your physique.
It wasn't just your tan and that's the truth. Three guys at least out muscled you. This was your chance to show crazy conditioning on stage and fell short.
I'll be more than happy to have this discussion with you after your show in person tonight.
Don't shoot the messenger.
Peace
Isaac
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epic message board battle taking place across hotel rooms!
I wasn't referring to your thoughts on my photos. You made mention twice that I've never stepped on stage but you're incorrect in your assumptions and I pointed that out. You were all buds with me at check-in and before the show but when I point out the obvious you try to discredit with me by saying I'm not a bodybuilder. I never claimed to be a bodybuilder but I've dieted and know what it's like to be on stage. You can ask any judge, any photographer and anyone in the audience and if they're honest with you, they will tell you the same thing. It doesn't matter what you look liked the day before or 4 hours before, all that matters is how you looked on stage. You know that as well as anyone. You're taking an honest assessment personal and I understand it's hard not to because it's about you and your physique.
It wasn't just your tan and that's the truth. Three guys at least out muscled you. This was your chance to show crazy conditioning on stage and fell short.
I'll be more than happy to have this discussion with you after your show in person tonight.
Don't shoot the messenger.
Peace
Isaac
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This is turning legendary. ;D
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epic message board battle taking place across hotel rooms!
haha what I was thinking lol ;D
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This is turning legendary. ;D
Yah, talk about weirdness, you can cut the air with a knife with all the beef Between Alex and Isaac...
Alexx should be focused on the show, not posting on a damn message board! :(
Alexx get focused and get the hell off the computer, geez!
ISaac shoots pictures, as a bodybuilder you have to be open to everyones feedback...
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When you post your photos up on a public forum and talk the talk, you open yourself up to the opinions and critiques of many. You had the respect of Getbig, which is tough to do, don't ruin what you established by trying to defend yourself or belittle opinions that are honest and on point. If I said you looked like balls and everyone else in attendance talked how awesome you looked, clearly I'd be looking like the fool. That's not the case here.
You're starting to sound like a delusional bodybuilder instead of a man and just say, I learned something and will do better next time.
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Note to self: Quote original post so when one goes back and changes post it's documented. Check.
When you post your photos up on a public forum and talk the talk, you open yourself up to the opinions and critiques of many. You had the respect of Getbig, which is tough to do, don't ruin what you established by trying to defend yourself or belittle opinions that are honest and on point. If I said you looked like balls and everyone else in attendance talked how awesome you looked, clearly I'd be looking like the fool. That's not the case here.
You're starting to sound like a delusional bodybuilder instead of a man and just say, I learned something and will do better next time.
Exactly , Alex you look great, and from the pictures, I think you were overlooked ,but now ,its time to move on ,no excuses ,accept criticism , learn from your mistakes ,comeback next year and kick some ass
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Note to self: Quote original post so when one goes back and changes post it's documented. Check.
When you post your photos up on a public forum and talk the talk, you open yourself up to the opinions and critiques of many. You had the respect of Getbig, which is tough to do, don't ruin what you established by trying to defend yourself or belittle opinions that are honest and on point. If I said you looked like balls and everyone else in attendance talked how awesome you looked, clearly I'd be looking like the fool. That's not the case here.
You're starting to sound like a delusional bodybuilder instead of a man and just say, I learned something and will do better next time.
Naw Isaac, fuck that shit...here's the thing. Your job as photographer is to take the pics and report and show a little consideration here. Alex has the respect of Getbig and that's not about to change anytime soon. Yours is on thin ice right now buddy. We're a board full of bodybuilders not photographers so we're not gonna sit here and take your taking advantage of your position to force Alex to see things that he may not be ready to. Goddamn it I can pick up a camera and start taking pictures, too; probably a full half of the people here could. You need to stand down here and back the fuck off. You could at least wait until the show is over to push whatever point you're more than a little to anxious to.
Get off your fucking high horse is what I'm trying to say.
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who selected the tanning person for alex?
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Naw Isaac, fuck that shit...here's the thing. Your job as photographer is to take the pics and report and show a little consideration here. Alex has the respect of Getbig and that's not about to change anytime soon. Yours is on thin ice right now buddy. We're a board full of bodybuilders not photographers so we're not gonna sit here and take your taking advantage of your position to force Alex to see things that he may not be ready to. Goddamn it I can pick up a camera and start taking pictures, too; probably a full half of the people here could. You need to stand down here and back the fuck off.
Dude are you bi-polar? One minute you're on my nuts wanting me to get you in the press pit and the next you're wanting to rumble. This is a board full of all kinds of characters, who have an interest in bodybuilding. WOO!
I never said taking photos was rocket science, hell an untrained monkey could take stage shots.
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Naw Isaac, fuck that shit...here's the thing. Your job as photographer is to take the pics and report and show a little consideration here. Alex has the respect of Getbig and that's not about to change anytime soon. Yours is on thin ice right now buddy. We're a board full of bodybuilders not photographers so we're not gonna sit here and take your taking advantage of your position to force Alex to see things that he may not be ready to. Goddamn it I can pick up a camera and start taking pictures, too; probably a full half of the people here could. You need to stand down here and back the fuck off. You could at least wait until the show is over to push whatever point you're more than a little to anxious to.
Get off your fucking high horse is what I'm trying to say.
Yeah I dont get the jumping on a guy when hes down,
Alex won a lot of hearts and minds with his attitude here.
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Naw Isaac, fuck that shit...here's the thing. Your job as photographer is to take the pics and report and show a little consideration here. Alex has the respect of Getbig and that's not about to change anytime soon. Yours is on thin ice right now buddy. We're a board full of bodybuilders not photographers so we're not gonna sit here and take your taking advantage of your position to force Alex to see things that he may not be ready to. Goddamn it I can pick up a camera and start taking pictures, too; probably a full half of the people here could. You need to stand down here and back the fuck off. You could at least wait until the show is over to push whatever point you're more than a little to anxious to.
Get off your fucking high horse is what I'm trying to say.
HAAHAHHAHAMcFarland layin the smack on Isack.... :D
I thought Alex's conditioning was awesome, his color looked f'ed up, but live and learn I guess.
And Isack always comes across like a prick full of ego.........I don't know why, just my 2cents.
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No one is holding a gun to any competitor's head to make them come online and read what people are saying about them. I'm just a photographer remember, WTF does my opinion matter, right? God forbid I communicate the truth about a competitor. I have nothing against the dude, he looked hella freaky before the show and had deep shredded glutes and hamstrings which is impressive. I give him props for that for sure.
ya fuck that Isaac guy he's a dick.
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I sense someone is smashing his keyboard right now. ;)
AlexA gets alot of respect for the conditioning he displayed in his pics up to the show. And he comes across as a really nice guy and he seemed to appreciate everyones support and comments.
Lift--you come across as an all-knowing prick, never met you, but that is the sense I get from reading your posts.
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ya fuck that Isaac guy he's a dick.
From reading your posts....yeah, that's the impression I'm getting :-\
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ITHACA
music by vangellis words recited by sean connery
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n3n2Ox4Yfk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n3n2Ox4Yfk)
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OK that video helped, we've got things cooled down now. Alex and Isaac are supposed to shake hands now later tonight.
OK I'm definitely gonna have to have another Nasser Night tonight on the heels of that one, so see, it's not all bad. ;D
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That's terrible, as I was looking forward to hearing about your placings.
Anyways, stuff like this always happens in life.. It's just sad to see all the work you put in to get into that condition be wasted. Anyways, you're still a champ in my book and in the minds of many others on this forum, so just keep your head up. :)
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dont worry alex your a champ in my mind, a mentor and a good friend , i know you have drive to do this again
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yesterday is in the past, just focus on tonight Alex, good luck.
Squad, squad, squad, you just f'n owned yourself with you lack of competition knowlege bro. In the amateurs, if you don't make the cut at prejuding its DONE. Top 5 is determined there and there's no changing that unless one of the top 5 guys don't show up for the night show. U R funny as hell but hadda point that out. Now go back to picking on savatese or whatever his name is or whoever ur picking on now ;D.
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Squad, squad, squad, you just f'n owned yourself with you lack of competition knowlege bro. In the amateurs, if you don't make the cut at prejuding its DONE. Top 5 is determined there and there's no changing that unless one of the top 5 guys don't show up for the night show. U R funny as hell but hadda point that out. Now go back to picking on savatese or whatever his name is or whoever ur picking on now ;D.
never really paid too much attention to the judging and scoring system of the amateurs honestly.
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Alex do us all a favour and continue to post on this board.
Your journey to nationals pictures were some of the best threads ive seen on getbig in a long long time.
Like you said, u knew your colour was horrible, u had lost some muscle in the last few days, and things just didnt work out. We all saw it and you were man enough to admit it.
I hope that this experience can help you pull out that pro card next year at nationals ! :)
Dont let this get u down. If the show was two weeks ago, you would have been right up there, no doubt in what was maybe the toughest class in the whole show. There were a lot of great lightweight bodybuilders out there.
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I never said taking photos was rocket science, hell an untrained monkey could take stage shots.
True, but the monkey won't work for as little money as they pay you!
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In my opinion he looked better last week...he seemed to lose muscle fulness and vascularity....this could be due to stress and bad water depletion.
I felt the same way. I think anyone who's been around the sport awhile realized he was inshape a little early. Comparing his 2 wks out pics wih his 1 wk out pics, he wasn't getting any harded just smaller and was looking a bit flatcompared to the wk before. Once you've peaked you don't get any harder you start losing muscles which makes you look flat.
Don't think Alex need to work with anyone, he has his diet down just has to time it better. Like he said rookie mistake. This will help him alot next yr.
Now maybe some of the getbiggers can understand when bbers say they were in the best shape of there life but messed up the last day or few hrs. You body is so sensetive at that stage you could easily in a matter of hrs and totally undo months of hard work and diet.
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I felt the same way. I think anyone who's been around the sport awhile realized he was inshape a little early. Comparing his 2 wks out pics wih his 1 wk out pics, he wasn't getting any harded just smaller and was looking a bit flatcompared to the wk before. Once you've peaked you don't get any harder you start losing muscles which makes you look flat.
Don't think Alex need to work with anyone, he has his diet down just has to time it better. Like he said rookie mistake. This will help him alot next yr.
Now maybe some of the getbiggers can understand when bbers say they were in the best shape of there life but messed up the last day or few hrs. You body is so sensetive at that stage you could easily in a matter of hrs and totally undo months of hard work and diet.
then trying to eat back up only complicates matters,you can't recapture that "look"that make people go wtf....
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Alex do us all a favour and continue to post on this board.
Your journey to nationals pictures were some of the best threads ive seen on getbig in a long long time.
Like you said, u knew your colour was horrible, u had lost some muscle in the last few days, and things just didnt work out. We all saw it and you were man enough to admit it.
I hope that this experience can help you pull out that pro card next year at nationals ! :)
Dont let this get u down. If the show was two weeks ago, you would have been right up there, no doubt in what was maybe the toughest class in the whole show. There were a lot of great lightweight bodybuilders out there.
couldn't agree more. I was very inspired looking at the pics. You'll be awesome onstage next yr Alex, i can imagine how you feel but don't let this get you down. Eat some junk, not too much as long as you were dieting one word REBOUND be careful.
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then trying to eat back up only complicates matters,you can't recapture that "look"that make people go wtf....
Nothing worst than that feeling, when you diet you ass off and you look and realized you're about to go onstage but your peak left you a few days ago
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never really paid too much attention to the judging and scoring system of the amateurs honestly.
K, U R forgiven ;D. Pros yes amateurs no.
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Ahhh it's all good Alex, all of us here know what you looked like a week or 2 out mate, shit i even saved your pics (setting myself up for "your gay" insults here ;D) which i don't do very often unless i see something that really inspires me. You still did fantastic mate. You will learn from it and come back stronger next time, no doubt 8).
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Alex, we all make mistakes...but only some of us learn from it...
Get back on track and USA title is yours...GOOD LUCK!
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how much muscle can you lose in 1 week ??? it is not like he is fasting.
alex sounds like a decent guy, i hate for my prediction to come true frankly.
we need to see some comparison pics. a lot of ppl look good alone but when compared, it brings things into scale
I felt the same way. I think anyone who's been around the sport awhile realized he was inshape a little early. Comparing his 2 wks out pics wih his 1 wk out pics, he wasn't getting any harded just smaller and was looking a bit flatcompared to the wk before. Once you've peaked you don't get any harder you start losing muscles which makes you look flat.
Don't think Alex need to work with anyone, he has his diet down just has to time it better. Like he said rookie mistake. This will help him alot next yr.
Now maybe some of the getbiggers can understand when bbers say they were in the best shape of there life but messed up the last day or few hrs. You body is so sensetive at that stage you could easily in a matter of hrs and totally undo months of hard work and diet.
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how much muscle can you lose in 1 week ??? it is not like he is fasting.
alex sounds like a decent guy, i hate for my prediction to come true frankly.
we need to see some comparison pics. a lot of ppl look good alone but when compared, it brings things into scale
You can lose alot . In most cases you're right, usually it's not a big difference if you step on a scale, but once you're as conditioned and dry as alex was a few week before, any change will be negative. If you lose only 3lbs, in the condition he was in, that weight will come from the muscles not fat or water and make the muscles look deflated (flat) small and soft. Visually it makes a BIG difference. The other thing also is you simply cannot hold your "peak" for too long. Several ppl mentioned it including myself on one of the threads
Alex looked great Alone but and would have looked great onstage also had the show been two weeks earlier. I hope someone puts up pics of him from two weeks ago, one wek ago and last night and you'll see the difference.
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Alex.................... your tan bro! (alex was covered in so much "soot" he looked like a coal miners daughter!)
i too forgot he didn't get to pose at the night show (and told him in phone conversations and text to "just have fun and rock the house!"
obviously alex was too nice of a guy to point out my mistake
Everything happens for a reason: Alex has his "name" out there now (people know who he is/what happened)
he got coverage from MD (video etc Steve Blechman was rumored to even have been talking to alex)
so the next show its "his time" as far as im concered!
we all have to pay our dues..............consid er this show alex's "payment"
no more rookie mistakes!!.................next show "it's on!"
(have some cheesecake and pizza alex)
;D
Mike
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Alex....................your tan bro! (alex was covered in so much "soot" he looked like a coal miners daughter!)
i too forgot he didn't get to pose at the night show (and told him in phone conversations and text to "just have fun and rock the house!"
obviously alex was too nice of a guy to point out my mistake
Everything happens for a reason: Alex has his "name" out there now (people know who he is/what happened)
he got coverage from MD (video etc Steve Blechman was rumored to even have been talking to alex)
so the next show its "his time" as far as im concered!
we all have to pay our dues..............consid er this show alex's "payment"
no more rookie mistakes!!.................next show "it's on!"
(have some cheesecake and pizza alex)
;D
Mike
good outlook :) and funny on the coal miners daughter M.A.
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who selected the tanning person for alex?
This guy. He is actually white.
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Alex....................your tan bro! (alex was covered in so much "soot" he looked like a coal miners daughter!)
i too forgot he didn't get to pose at the night show (and told him in phone conversations and text to "just have fun and rock the house!"
obviously alex was too nice of a guy to point out my mistake
Everything happens for a reason: Alex has his "name" out there now (people know who he is/what happened)
he got coverage from MD (video etc Steve Blechman was rumored to even have been talking to alex)
so the next show its "his time" as far as im concered!
we all have to pay our dues..............consid er this show alex's "payment"
no more rookie mistakes!!.................next show "it's on!"
(have some cheesecake and pizza alex)
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Mike
Well said, Mike.
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From reading your posts....yeah, that's the impression I'm getting :-\
Agreed. There is opening up someone's eyes to reality in a nice way and in other ways too. Some people think "keeping it real" is all about the latter way whereas those with class know the nice way is the way one should go about breaking news to people.
As for professions, that isn't something one can fall back on all the time to justify a piss poor attitude. At the end of the day do you want to be looked at as an asshole with a camera or a first class guy with a camera? It is your choice and has nothing to do with the machine you hold in your hands you make your living with.
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This guy. He is actually white.
onlyme...dude, you should be the last person to be making fun of Vince
seriously, after those pictures of you came out I would have thought that your attitude would be different
it is to the point that I won't even consider making a disparaging comment against you
anyway, good luck with the weight lost
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alex!.... your a bad ass ripped some bitch! wow. you must be perfect on your diet!. damn. good luckfella! you make me feel fat! real fat... COOL!
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Alex,
next time you compete
maybe, you should leave your laptop at home
JUST DO IT! to quote the Nike Ad