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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: SteelePegasus on January 31, 2008, 07:58:06 PM
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Perma Bulkers...how do you go through the day and not feel guilty?
I gain 2-5lbs and I get depressed...
I can't eat a foot long subway sandwich..too much food
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Perma Bulkers...how do you go through the day and not feel guilty?
I gain 2-5lbs and I get depressed...
I can't eat a foot long subway sandwich..too much food
Don't have your discipline my man.
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There are always options.
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There are always options.
LOL!!
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Abs and dieting for dudes is gay. End of story.
Jason
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There are always options.
I already cut my meals into small portions..I try not to over eat ::)
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Perma Bulkers...how do you go through the day and not feel guilty?
I gain 2-5lbs and I get depressed...
I can't eat a foot long subway sandwich..too much food
steele...usually i dont comment on stuff like this....
but that was by far the most feminine post ive read all day....
a possible gayer than _______ thread
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I already cut my meals into small portions..I try not to over eat ::)
How much do you weigh and how tall are you? You must be a beast.
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How much do you weigh and how tall are you? You must be a beast.
At least 160. You see that beast in "his" avatar?
Jason
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At least 160. You see that beast in "his" avatar?
Jason
The guy in his av is a teeny weeny little guy, why wouldn't he eat something?
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The guy in his av is a teeny weeny little guy, why wouldn't he eat something?
Doesnt want to lose his abs or see 180lbs. EVER.
Jason
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Doesnt want to lose his abs or see 180lbs. EVER.
Jason
His abs will always be there, sometimes they are just hiding.... ;D
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How much do you weigh and how tall are you? You must be a beast.
LOL...5'10"..198lbs (just stepped on the scale)
will be down to 190lbs mid march..then lower as the summer comes on
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LOL...5'10"..198lbs (just stepped on the scale)
will be down to 190lbs mid march..then lower as the summer comes on
@ 5'10".....that's sad man, I bet your arms are 14.5"....waist is 24" and chest is probably 36"....sound about right?
That's too small, you probably don't even look like you workout.... :-\
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Lost 20 pounds now down to 260, hoping to hit 225 by April.at 5,11
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@ 5'10".....that's sad man, I bet your arms are 14.5"....waist is 24" and chest is probably 36"....sound about right?
That's too small, you probably don't even look like you workout.... :-\
hehe..you are trying to hurt my feelings..I just ran for the MyoTape :)
numbers are way off big boy
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hehe..you are trying to hurt my feelings..I just ran for the MyoTape :)
numbers are way off big boy
What are they...can't be too far off 200lbs @ 5'10".....is pretty small. :-*
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steele...usually i dont comment on stuff like this....
but that was by far the most feminine post ive read all day....
a possible gayer than _______ thread
I concure, we are all gay now from reading it also..
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What are they...can't be too far off 200lbs @ 5'10".....is pretty small. :-*
Depends on bodyfat if in single digits very respectable for a natty.
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Depends on bodyfat if in single digits very respectable for a natty.
For a natty.... ;)
But this is getbig and he's probably adding 20lbs and 2" to all his measurements right now. :D
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Abs and dieting for dudes is gay. End of story.
Jason
Exactly. The name of this site is "getBIG", not "getanorexic"
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For a natty.... ;)
But this is getbig and he's probably adding 20lbs and 2" to all his measurements right now. :D
Exactly. The name of this site is "getBIG", not "getanorexic"
True Chaos,Panda if your big allover and not just in the gut who gives a fuck if you have abs.
But if your on a heavy cycle you should have abs and the muscle to back it up.
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T3 and Clen are magic. That's all I'm going to say on the subject.
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True Chaos,Panda if your big allover and not just in the gut who gives a fuck if you have abs.
But if your on a heavy cycle you should have abs and the muscle to back it up.
lol....maybe I am into the health look
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What are they...can't be too far off 200lbs @ 5'10".....is pretty small. :-*
tell me your numbers first sunshine :-*
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LOL...5'10"..198lbs (just stepped on the scale)
will be down to 190lbs mid march..then lower as the summer comes on
Thats impressive if you have good abs and are that conditioned in your avatar, do getbig3
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Thats impressive if you have good abs and are that conditioned in your avatar, do getbig3
maybe, let me try and grab a pic off of my iphone
*Legs sucks and I need to start doing cardio
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Abs and dieting for dudes is gay. End of story.
Jason
Being fat with a goatee acting tough on the internet is for fags. You, Jason "baby-faced walrus' Pegg = fag.
Every time you post you sound like a fuccking female who's on the rag, you bitter depressed fat needledick.
HOPE THIS HELPS!
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Honest question SteelePegasus, how many calories do you eat in a day?
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Being fat with a goatee acting tough on the internet is for fags. You, Jason "baby-faced walrus' Pegg = fag.
Every time you post you sound like a fuccking female who's on the rag, you bitter depressed fat needledick.
HOPE THIS HELPS!
A "guy" who prances around in a thong on a stage for the pleasure of other dudes is really in no position whatsoever to throw stones. ;)
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Honest question SteelePegasus, how many calories do you eat in a day?
hmm....I don't keep track like that
for dinner I had a 1 cup of egg whites fried together with a can of tuna and 3-5 crackers
for lunch I had a 6" subway sandwich ( called the feast)
for breakfast I had some protein pancakes (egg white, 2 scopes of whey, 1 banana, 1 scope of oat) friend in pam cooking spray
about 4 can of diet soda throughout the day
also I had a banana with a small amount of cornflakes as a snack
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hmm....I don't keep track like that
for dinner I had a 1 cup of egg whites fried together with a can of tuna and 3-5 crackers
for lunch I had a 6" subway sandwich ( called the feast)
for breakfast I had some protein pancakes (egg white, 2 scopes of whey, 1 banana, 1 scope of oat) friend in pam cooking spray
about 4 can of diet soda throughout the day
also I had a banana with a small amount of cornflakes as a snack
so you're only eating 3 meals and one snack a typical day? That looks like just around 1700-1800 calories.
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so you're only eating 3 meals and one snack a typical day? That looks like just around 1700-1800 calories.
probably 2,000-2,200
I dropped a couple of pounds since I gave up Baileys irish creme and McDonalds for the past couple of weeks
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perma bulkers would rather look
fat big in clothes than look halfway decent without them
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Today I ate four meals:
Meal One: Three slices of pizza with lots of beef on it
Meal Two: large prime rib sub from quiznos + bag of chips
Meal Three: large chicken carbonara sub from quiznos
Meal Four: McDonalds - Big Mac + Filet-o-Fish + Double Cheeseburger
and several cups of coffee with hazelnut cream throughout the day. Only drank diet pop or water with the meals. Might have a protein drink before going to bed.
Probably about 5000 calories if I have the fifth "meal"....Today was a good day...I should eat like this more often.
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Meal of Champions:
2 big macs, fries, chicken nuggets, diet coke
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Today I ate four meals:
Meal One: Three slices of pizza with lots of beef on it
Meal Two: large prime rib sub from quiznos + bag of chips
Meal Three: large chicken carbonara sub from quiznos
Meal Four: McDonalds - Big Mac + Filet-o-Fish + Double Cheeseburger
Probably about 4500 calories....Today was a good day...I should eat like this more often.
mmmm. yummy.
today i had not much food. i just eat some figs, dates and have protein shakes.
then later i had a huge serving of keema with basmati rice.
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mmmm. yummy.
today i had not much food. i just eat some figs, dates and have protein shakes.
then later i had a huge serving of keema with basmati rice.
Very good - the pizza had keema on it!
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I should eat like this more often.
sure if you don't care about your health or looking decent...
E
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Today I ate four meals:
Meal One: Three slices of pizza with lots of beef on it
Meal Two: large prime rib sub from quiznos + bag of chips
Meal Three: large chicken carbonara sub from quiznos
Meal Four: McDonalds - Big Mac + Filet-o-Fish + Double Cheeseburger
and several cups of coffee with hazelnut cream throughout the day. Only drank diet pop or water with the meals. Might have a protein drink before going to bed.
Probably about 5000 calories if I have the fifth "meal"....Today was a good day...I should eat like this more often.
are you serious?
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are you serious?
Yes, for today...but generally I think I'm eating 3500-4000 calories per day, with trying to keep sugar low, but dont really watch fat or carbs. I would like to bulk, and will then decide if I wish to remain a perma-bulker or get leaner :D
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Very good - the pizza had keema assers man juice on it!
There, fixed. ::)
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Yes, for today...but generally I think I'm eating 3500-4000 calories per day, with trying to keep sugar low, but dont really watch fat or carbs. I would like to bulk, and will then decide if I wish to remain a perma-bulker or get leaner :D
1. for nattys there is no such thing as bulking
2. for non nattys unless you are going onstage at some point in time why builk
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1. for nattys there is no such thing as bulking
2. for non nattys unless you are going onstage at some point in time why builk
Although I'm no expert, my understanding is that it's easier to gain muscle when bulking, and then later you can try to lose fat with dieting while trying to minimize your muscle loss, as opposed to finding a "medium" calorie level that will neither help you gain muscle or lose fat.
Plus, this is my inspiration:
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Meal of Champions:
2 big macs, fries, chicken nuggets, diet coke
NOW we're talkin' about some real food ;D
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Although I'm no expert, my understanding is that it's easier to gain muscle when bulking, and then later you can try to lose fat with dieting while trying to minimize your muscle loss, as opposed to finding a "medium" calorie level that will neither help you gain muscle or lose fat.
Plus, this is my inspiration:
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1268956
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bigbobs is not natural. He is doing a Nasser supervised cycle. That's why he's eating all that shit.
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bigbobs is not natural. He is doing a Nasser supervised cycle. That's why he's eating all that shit.
lol where do you get your stuff from?! Nasser made it clear in his interviews that he hates it when people ask him for steroid advice...you think I would jeapoardize my friendship with HUGE NASSER by doing what he has already stated annoys him?
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http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1268956
Can you please sum that up?
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Can you please sum that up?
what a very boring article it is
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Its a myth that "bulking" will add more muscle. Your body can only assimilate what it needs, the rest is fat and waste.(Kinda like benz).
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Can you please sum that up?
"Under the best possible circumstances (perfect diet, training, supplementation, and recovery strategies) the average male body can manufacture between 0.25 and 0.5 pounds of dry muscle tissue per week. That is the amount your natural body chemistry will allow you to build. So we're talking about around one or two pounds per month. It may not sound like much, but that can add up to twelve to twenty pounds over one year of training."
Basically as JoeLocal pointed out you can only gain a limit amount of muscle in a given time, the rest is just fat and water.
Over eating is pointless
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"Under the best possible circumstances (perfect diet, training, supplementation, and recovery strategies) the average male body can manufacture between 0.25 and 0.5 pounds of dry muscle tissue per week. That is the amount your natural body chemistry will allow you to build. So we're talking about around one or two pounds per month. It may not sound like much, but that can add up to twelve to twenty pounds over one year of training."
Basically as JoeLocal pointed out you can only gain a limit amount of muscle in a given time, the rest is just fat and water.
Over eating is pointless
last time I checked most perma bulkers aren't natural :)
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lol where do you get your stuff from?! Nasser made it clear in his interviews that he hates it when people ask him for steroid advice...you think I would jeapoardize my friendship with HUGE NASSER by doing what he has already stated annoys him?
he already lets you suck his dick........why rock the boat
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1. for nattys there is no such thing as bulking
2. for non nattys unless you are going onstage at some point in time why builk
dead on ....
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Once you nail your diet once, it is easy to do the same thing in the future.
Deploy a cardio session after your workout for 30/45 mins, eat all day and ofcourse don't eat fat shit. It is suprisingly easy.
If you worry about losing mass, some test. prop is an effective weapon.
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steele...usually i dont comment on stuff like this....
but that was by far the most feminine post ive read all day....
a possible gayer than _______ thread
hahahaha, can you imagine this little feminine ape sitting at work talking to the rest of the soccer moms about how "everything he eats goes to his hips", hahahahaa, feminine as the day is long, i can just picture "him" sitting on his cizzznouch at hizznome watching Fried Green Tomatoes on the Lifetime Network with a box of Kleenex and an economy sized bag of Kit Kat's.
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hahahaha, can you imagine this little feminine ape sitting at work talking to the rest of the soccer moms about how "everything he eats goes to his hips", hahahahaa, feminine as the day is long, i can just picture "him" sitting on his cizzznouch at hizznome watching Fried Green Tomatoes on the Lifetime Network with a box of Kleenex and an economy sized bag of Kit Kat's.
Does Fried Green Tomatoes really show on the LifeTime Network?
and why would I eat a bag of kit kats? that goes straight to your gut..but you already knew that, don't you ;)
or are you just trying to contribute to this thread by telling us what you had for breakfast?
(http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/candywarehouse_1988_178009274)
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hahahaha, can you imagine this little feminine ape sitting at work talking to the rest of the soccer moms about how "everything he eats goes to his hips", hahahahaa, feminine as the day is long, i can just picture "him" sitting on his cizzznouch at hizznome watching Fried Green Tomatoes on the Lifetime Network with a box of Kleenex and an economy sized bag of Kit Kat's.
Squaddy what'll it be for lunch today........extra crispy or original?Lifes choices are difficult at times.
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Squaddy what'll it be for lunch today........extra crispy or original?Lifes choices are difficult at times.
why can't he have both? during the bulking phase it is best to get your nutritional requirements from wide range of items
and clearly Squad is being true to the life long PermaBulker mantra
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why can't he have both? during the bulking phase it is best to get your nutritional requirements from wide range of items
and clearly Squad is being true to the life long PermaBulker mantra
hahahaa, i could be 800 pounds and i'd still be better than you, i'm White. :D
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hahahaa, i could be 800 pounds and i'd still be better than you, i'm White*. :D
*Poor white trash
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hahahaa, i could be 800 pounds and i'd still be better than you, i'm White. :D
you are not too far from the 800lbs from what I see
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you are not too far from the 800lbs from what I see
hahahhaha, ok "steele pegasus", whiinat dizznid you dizznooo for your hero Martin Loofer King day? did you loot any stores or steal some hubcaps? ;D
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*Poor white trash
your mean power white trash literally for figuratively?
1. Financially poor and white
2. The mentality that is associated with poor white trash
3. Both 1 and 2
I wouldn't hold being #1 against him..I do hold his 40% BF against
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This what happens when the real world full of real friends and real women lock their doors to an individual: they end up with 21k posts on GB.
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hahahhaha, ok "steele pegasus", whiinat dizznid you dizznooo for your hero Martin Loofer King day? did you loot any stores or steal some hubcaps? ;D
I did jog to the store for some cardio
when I looted I took only low carb/low calorie foods
when leaving I did give the fat guy laying on the ground some twinkies...he looked hungry and vaguely familiar..lol, then called me a tiny tit and said that he post a gym story of how he owned me on getbig
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I did jog to the store for some cardio
when I looted I took only low carb/low calorie foods
when leaving I did give the fat guy laying on the ground some twinkies...he looked hungry and vaguely familiar..lol, then called me a tiny tit and said that he post a gym story of how he owned me on getbig
impossible, you're black, you're a third class citizen, you were the one lying on the ground. :D
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impossible, you're black, you're a third class citizen, you were the one lying on the ground. :D
you seem to have a problem with logic
you claim that I went out looting at the same time you claim that I am the one laying on the floor while looting
next you will claim that you have posted clear pictures of yourself
and then you will claim that you are stronger than me
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Squad, serious question...how many calories do you consume per day? you mentioned that you don't consume that much
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Squad, serious question...how many calories do you consume per day? you mentioned that you don't consume that much
3000-3500 tops.
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3000-3500 tops.
for me..I look at a piece of bread and I gain 2lbs.. :'(
my girlfriend's family eat so much more than me and they are all very skinny (they have never step foot into a gym)..it is not fair
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Meal of Champions:
2 big macs, fries, chicken nuggets, diet coke
Groucho at 300lbs with flabs.
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for me..I look at a piece of bread and I gain 2lbs.. :'(
my girlfriend's family eat so much more than me and they are all very skinny (they have never step foot into a gym)..it is not fair
I debate this with my wife quite a bit, but genetics plays a huge role in someones fatness. I really, even at my advanced age, don't think I could make myself fat. Even eating junk food and fast food all day everyday and not working out, I would get smoother and maybe pudgy, but not fat.
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hahahaha, can you imagine this little feminine ape sitting at work talking to the rest of the soccer moms about how "everything he eats goes to his hips", hahahahaa, feminine as the day is long, i can just picture "him" sitting on his cizzznouch at hizznome watching Fried Green Tomatoes on the Lifetime Network with a box of Kleenex and an economy sized bag of Kit Kat's.
Talk about feminine hips. You are quite the buxom bitch.
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I have a similar body type as Squad...mostly the weight goes to my gut first..IAF (intra adominal fat)
knowing that, I try to keep the cardio up and watch what I eat
for some people the fat gain is spread evenly through their body so they are able to carry more weight and not look fat while carrying a relatively high BF%.
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All these "shredded" boys make me laugh. They can't get big, but hey "at least they're not fat". Hate all big guys that have muscle and fat and don't get "ripped" at least twice a year. Believe that anyone with muscle and fat is a fraud and must shed all bodyfat to be taken seriously. Believe strength is fine, but "kinda unnecessary when you consider it in terms of bodybuilding". Believe anything over a 32" waist is obese. Only attracted to perfect 10s (oh brother). Are offended by fast foods and soda. Shake their heads in disgust at people in grocery stores while shopping. Most are 20-something kids that haven't accomplished anything in life except placing 2nd in the local Shitsplat Bodybuilding Contest.
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All these "shredded" boys make me laugh. They can't get big, but hey "at least they're not fat". Hate all big guys that have muscle and fat and don't get "ripped" at least twice a year. Believe that anyone with muscle and fat is a fraud and must shed all bodyfat to be taken seriously. Believe strength is fine, but "kinda unnecessary when you consider it in terms of bodybuilding". Believe anything over a 32" waist is obese. Only attracted to perfect 10s (oh brother). Are offended by fast foods and soda. Shake their heads in disgust at people in grocery stores while shopping. Most are 20-something kids that haven't accomplished anything in life except placing 2nd in the local Shitsplat Bodybuilding Contest.
No....just saying you don't need to bulk up (get fat) to put on muscle. It's pure myth with phyisiological backing to prove it, that's why I've got to laugh when people say they eat 4-5000k per day, my question is what the hell for??
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No....just saying you don't need to bulk up (get fat) to put on muscle. It's pure myth with phyisiological backing to prove it, that's why I've got to laugh when people say they eat 4-5000k per day, my question is what the hell for??
Most aren't level-headed like you are.....I agree with you by the way.
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The biggest problem is when naturals start copying the pros. When I used to peruse BBing.com I'd see kids eating 6k calories a day of junk because the pros do it. Dave Palumbo, the most hideous man alive, tells everyone to 'get to Mcdonalds'. The problem is that they don't take the combination of drugs that pros take when cutting..cocktails that allow them to burn fat faster, to keep muscle when losing fat, to even build muscle while losing fat.
I think the 'see food' diet has led to many naturals being at 30% bodyfat for the rest of their lives. Then, when they get to that stage, the amount of fat on the surface simply makes the muscle underneath look like more fat. A lot of people start reading Flex and reading info from the pros and end up looking worse than before they started training. No one wants to train to look worse, do they?
Just like some of you laugh at the 'skinny' guys with crazy stuff like definition and no double chins, those guys laugh at the 35% bodyfat guy screaming and shouting throughout his super hardcore workout, his belly constantly displaying itself as he does his military presses.
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but that was by far the most feminine post ive read all day....
a possible gayer than _______ thread
"Gayer than Vince Goodrum".
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All these "shredded" boys make me laugh. They can't get big, but hey "at least they're not fat". Hate all big guys that have muscle and fat and don't get "ripped" at least twice a year. Believe that anyone with muscle and fat is a fraud and must shed all bodyfat to be taken seriously. Believe strength is fine, but "kinda unnecessary when you consider it in terms of bodybuilding". Believe anything over a 32" waist is obese. Only attracted to perfect 10s (oh brother). Are offended by fast foods and soda. Shake their heads in disgust at people in grocery stores while shopping. Most are 20-something kids that haven't accomplished anything in life except placing 2nd in the local Shitsplat Bodybuilding Contest.
I of course agree 100%. Fact of the matter is, if these skinny little fag*gots ran into guys like us, Squad, Havenbull, chaos, bigmc, kiwiol, etc. on the street, they'd be calling us "sir" and praying we wouldn't kick the shit out of them in a moment of rage.
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No....just saying you don't need to bulk up (get fat) to put on muscle. It's pure myth with phyisiological backing to prove it, that's why I've got to laugh when people say they eat 4-5000k per day, my question is what the hell for??
You are wrong, The Coach. Putting on a bit of fat and going upto 15% - 20% BF boosts your strength a whole lot and you can push a lot more weight. That equates to more muscle over a period of time. When you then cut down, you'll have more muscle than you'd have had had you stayed under 12% or 10% or whatever.
I'm not talking 20 lbs + or anything, but if you do stay around 15 - 20%, you don't look fat (by normal standards, not bodybuilding standards) and the additional fat does help your body's test / hormone production, increases recovery, lets you sleep better etc.
Of course, introducing juice into that context changes all the variables and such, but overall, I'd say you'd only gain by having a nice, filling off-season :P
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No....just saying you don't need to bulk up (get fat) to put on muscle. It's pure myth with phyisiological backing to prove it, that's why I've got to laugh when people say they eat 4-5000k per day, my question is what the hell for??
once again Joe tells the truth
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I of course agree 100%. Fact of the matter is, if these skinny little fag*gots ran into guys like us, Squad, Havenbull, chaos, bigmc, kiwiol, etc. on the street, they'd be calling us "sir" and praying we wouldn't kick the shit out of them in a moment of rage.
I disagree with you, I have seen picks of Kiwiol...dude has some size with lot of muscles show. I was more speaking of those whe you can't see muscles but mostly fat.
I actually picked Kiwiol to win the mr.getbig 2
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I disagree with you, I have seen picks of Kiwiol...dude has some size with lot of muscles show. I was more speaking of those whe you can't see muscles but mostly fat.
So you've been looking? I'm blushing now ;D
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I disagree with you, I have seen picks of Kiwiol...dude has some size with lot of muscles show. I was more speaking of those whe you can't see muscles but mostly fat.
I actually picked Kiwiol to win the mr.getbig 2
Ah, ok. Do you think this guy is a perma bulker? He goes by the handle "pumphard" on the alphabet boards. He's also expressed lusts for underage girls. Fucking sicko. >:(
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The biggest problem is when naturals start copying the pros. When I used to peruse BBing.com I'd see kids eating 6k calories a day of junk because the pros do it. Dave Palumbo, the most hideous man alive, tells everyone to 'get to Mcdonalds'. The problem is that they don't take the combination of drugs that pros take when cutting..cocktails that allow them to burn fat faster, to keep muscle when losing fat, to even build muscle while losing fat.
I think the 'see food' diet has led to many naturals being at 30% bodyfat for the rest of their lives. Then, when they get to that stage, the amount of fat on the surface simply makes the muscle underneath look like more fat. A lot of people start reading Flex and reading info from the pros and end up looking worse than before they started training. No one wants to train to look worse, do they?
Just like some of you laugh at the 'skinny' guys with crazy stuff like definition and no double chins, those guys laugh at the 35% bodyfat guy screaming and shouting throughout his super hardcore workout, his belly constantly displaying itself as he does his military presses.
Here's the reality, the "fat guys" don't care what the "skinny guys" are doin, but the "skinny guys" always care what the "fat guys" are doin.
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This what happens when the real world full of real friends and real women lock their doors to an individual: they end up with 21k posts on GB.
not to mention the grease and sticky shit on his keyboard
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wow so many excuses for being fat :-\
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wow so many excuses for being fat :-\
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Can't all be a schmoetastic dong weasel like you Earl.
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Can't all be a schmoetastic dong weasel like you Earl.
why do you like being fat?
are you trying to gross out women?
seriously
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Perma Bulkers...how do you go through the day and not feel guilty?
I gain 2-5lbs and I get depressed...
I can't eat a foot long subway sandwich..too much food
what's a "perma bulker"?
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You are wrong, The Coach. Putting on a bit of fat and going upto 15% - 20% BF boosts your strength a whole lot and you can push a lot more weight. That equates to more muscle over a period of time. When you then cut down, you'll have more muscle than you'd have had had you stayed under 12% or 10% or whatever.
I'm not talking 20 lbs + or anything, but if you do stay around 15 - 20%, you don't look fat (by normal standards, not bodybuilding standards) and the additional fat does help your body's test / hormone production, increases recovery, lets you sleep better etc.
Of course, introducing juice into that context changes all the variables and such, but overall, I'd say you'd only gain by having a nice, filling off-season :P
No one can hold contest conditioning after a show for a relatively long period of time. If someone goes from lets say 4% BF and has about 6 months till their next show or even a year, you are naturally going to have a rise in BF. The key is to stay around 10-12% all year if your goal is to compete. A person can put on as much, if not more muscle at a lower BF than at a higher BF.
I see what you are saying about training heavier, but this is BBing not powerlifting, I personally don't fall into the category that heavier is best as opposed to greater volume. Heavy usually means more susceptibility to injury, all you need to do is take a look at all the injuries most have suffered due to poor mechanics and heavy loads. If you tear a muscle your out till you heal but smart training = longevity and greater gains.
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why do you like being fat?
are you trying to gross out women?
seriously
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I'll ask the ladies next time if they're grossed out....after they finish feelin up my arms and all.
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I'll ask the ladies next time if they're grossed out....after they finish feelin up my arms and all.
you're full of shit, and not just because you eat donuts like tic tacs ;)
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what's a "perma bulker"?
Permanently in the "Bulking" phase
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=198164.0;attach=230775;image)
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Permanently in the "Bulking" phase
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=198164.0;attach=230775;image)
I'm thinking sausage pepper and onions for dinner
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you're full of shit, and not just because you eat donuts like tic tacs ;)
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and you reek of embittered schmoe.
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Permanently in the "Bulking" phase
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=198164.0;attach=230775;image)
Fuck...he needs to get a training bra ASAP.
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No one can hold contest conditioning after a show for a relatively long period of time. If someone goes from lets say 4% BF and has about 6 months till their next show or even a year, you are naturally going to have a rise in BF. The key is to stay around 10-12% all year if your goal is to compete. A person can put on as much, if not more muscle at a lower BF than at a higher BF.
I see what you are saying about training heavier, but this is BBing not powerlifting, I personally don't fall into the category that heavier is best as opposed to greater volume. Heavy usually means more susceptibility to injury, all you need to do is take a look at all the injuries most have suffered due to poor mechanics and heavy loads. If you tear a muscle your out till you heal but smart training = longevity and greater gains.
Not true, there's a guy in my gym who has got to be like 50 years old and he stays at literally contest shape year round and looks well over 200 lbs in that condition. At any time of the year he is more ripped and vascular than most people are on contest day - his vascularity year-round is basically identical to that Alex (I think his name was?) NPC nationals competitor who posted his vascular pics a few weeks before the US nationals. I can't see him dieting at all for a show. I think he does the Master's at the Canadian Nationals - can find out his name and maybe some pics. What you're saying is probably generally correct, but there are some genetic exceptions to that.
If someone from Edmonton is here you probably know who I'm talking about.
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Fuck...he needs to get a training bra ASAP.
Can you believe this guy claimed to weigh 360 lbs and be at 15% bodyfat? :-\ His "pecs" alone are 75% fat ;D
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Can you believe this guy claimed to weigh 360 lbs and be at 15% bodyfat? :-\ His "pecs" alone are 75% fat ;D
Are you sure it wasn't 15 lbs at 360% bodyfat?
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Are you sure it wasn't 15 lbs at 360% bodyfat?
hahahaha
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I was stronger when I was heavier.. I put on the most mass when I was eating around 3,500-4,000 calories a day. It's just much easier to lift weights while eating a lot and being fatter. For me, it's much harder to lift while on maintainence calories or cutting down. That's just my experience.
I don't agree with perma bulking because that way you'll never learn how to cut down. Cutting down is pretty hard to do for any natural person even with the use of stimulants.
The thing about bulking up all the time is that it's just not what it's cut out to be.. Not worth putting on 20 pounds of fat to improve your legs or your chest.. I'd rather eat a maintainence amount and do it the harder way.
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I was stronger when I was heavier.. I put on the most mass when I was eating around 3,500-4,000 calories a day. It's just much easier to lift weights while eating a lot and being fatter. For me, it's much harder to lift while on maintainence calories or cutting down. That's just my experience.
I don't agree with perma bulking because that way you'll never learn how to cut down. Cutting down is pretty hard to do for any natural person even with the use of stimulants.
The thing about bulking up all the time is that it's just not what it's cut out to be.. Not worth putting on 20 pounds of fat to improve your legs or your chest.. I'd rather eat a maintainence amount and do it the harder way.
LOL. dieting is not hard bro.. eat protein and veggies every 2 and a half hours and take your fishoil...simple carbs post workout....spike carbs every few days....its simple as hell. if it slows down,morning cardio done with 10 grams whey isolate and eca, and once that slows down throw in another session post workout ... its all about tricking your body into using bodyfat as energy... its simple to do..
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if it slows down,morning cardio done with 10 grams whey isolate and eca, and once that slows down throw in another session post workout ...
A great way to train your body to use protein (ie muscle) as fuel. This is how to lose bodyweight - your muscle- not bodyfat. Bad advice.
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LOL. dieting is not hard bro.. eat protein and veggies every 2 and a half hours and take your fishoil...simple carbs post workout....spike carbs every few days....its simple as hell. if it slows down,morning cardio done with 10 grams whey isolate and eca, and once that slows down throw in another session post workout ... its all about tricking your body into using bodyfat as energy... its simple to do..
Are you 6% bf? ::) Let's you see ripped completely.
I'd rather not be bothered with looking different year to year, as would most people. I did go up to 215 and I was strong as bull, but I am actually happier these days at 190lbs.
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I wish subzone didn't go out of business.
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A great way to train your body to use protein (ie muscle) as fuel. This is how to lose bodyweight - your muscle- not bodyfat. Bad advice.
your fucking stupid. go ahead and do your morning cardio on a completely empty stomach9without the whey isolate or any bcaa's)...if your glycogen is anywhere near depleted your going to be burning up a shit load of muscle.
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your fucking stupid. go ahead and do your morning cardio on a completely empty stomach9without the whey isolate or any bcaa's)...if your glycogen is anywhere near depleted your going to be burning up a shit load of muscle.
lol internet guru strikes again. ;D
Props to losing all that weight, but that's not what I was even taking about. I was taking about going from very heavy and high bf to near contest shape at 5-7% bf. You haven't reached that level, yet give out all this advice which you got from articles on bodybuilding.com. We know this shit already. ::)
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your fucking stupid. go ahead and do your morning cardio on a completely empty stomach9without the whey isolate or any bcaa's)...if your glycogen is anywhere near depleted your going to be burning up a shit load of muscle.
No you are fucking stupid. Morning cardio is a great way to burn muscle fullstop. However having only protein simply makes the body more enclined to use your protein stores for energy.
You need to fucking think about things kid.
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Here's the reality, the "fat guys" don't care what the "skinny guys" are doin, but the "skinny guys" always care what the "fat guys" are doin.
It's a ladies' thing ;D
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No one can hold contest conditioning after a show for a relatively long period of time. If someone goes from lets say 4% BF and has about 6 months till their next show or even a year, you are naturally going to have a rise in BF. The key is to stay around 10-12% all year if your goal is to compete. A person can put on as much, if not more muscle at a lower BF than at a higher BF.
I see what you are saying about training heavier, but this is BBing not powerlifting, I personally don't fall into the category that heavier is best as opposed to greater volume. Heavy usually means more susceptibility to injury, all you need to do is take a look at all the injuries most have suffered due to poor mechanics and heavy loads. If you tear a muscle your out till you heal but smart training = longevity and greater gains.
When I say heavier, I don't mean singles or doubles or triples, although you can do them if you want. The risk of getting injured is the same as when you are training lighter - you just need to make sure you use proper form, ROM and all that.
I train basic, free-weight compound movements all the time and I do triple drops on nearly all of them, except for the deadlift. I do about 4 - 6 reps on the first set (to failure), drop it down and blast out another 6 - 8 (to failure again) and drop it down one last time to do about 10 - 15 reps. I've been doing this for nearly 12 years now (on and off).
Injuries are common to everyone who lift weights - I'm talking lifting as in putting in a decent amount of effort and not just doing 12 reps with a light weight before setting it down and moving on to the next machine. I see all the guys who keep saying I shouldn't go heavy and guess what? They are all skinny, with no mass or density. When you train heavy, it shows in the way your body looks - thick and dense, as opposed to looking like a swimmer.
Not saying everyone HAS to train like that, but if you are natural, there is no way in Hell you are going to increase your size and muscularity without trying to constantly increase the amount of weight you do - in other words, progressive overload / resistance. Volume is more of an ancillary variable, since you can do high volume with light weights and unless you are juicing, that technique isn't going to get you any size.
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your fucking stupid. go ahead and do your morning cardio on a completely empty stomach9without the whey isolate or any bcaa's)...if your glycogen is anywhere near depleted your going to be burning up a shit load of muscle.
many do cardio on empty stomach and after done, a protein shake. Can you tell us where did you study advanced nutrition ? Mr "GNU"
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Nothing is absolute, except vodka, your body will burn fat and muscle during caloric defecit and during exercise
but there are ways to mitigate the muscle lose, some of it is highly debatable (BCAA, Glutamine, EAA)
even the method of cardio highly is detable (45min target heart rate vs stop and go sprinting)
the key is to find out what works best for your body
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When I say heavier, I don't mean singles or doubles or triples, although you can do them if you want. The risk of getting injured is the same as when you are training lighter - you just need to make sure you use proper form, ROM and all that.
I train basic, free-weight compound movements all the time and I do triple drops on nearly all of them, except for the deadlift. I do about 4 - 6 reps on the first set (to failure), drop it down and blast out another 6 - 8 (to failure again) and drop it down one last time to do about 10 - 15 reps. I've been doing this for nearly 12 years now (on and off).
Injuries are common to everyone who lift weights - I'm talking lifting as in putting in a decent amount of effort and not just doing 12 reps with a light weight before setting it down and moving on to the next machine. I see all the guys who keep saying I shouldn't go heavy and guess what? They are all skinny, with no mass or density. When you train heavy, it shows in the way your body looks - thick and dense, as opposed to looking like a swimmer.
Not saying everyone HAS to train like that, but if you are natural, there is no way in Hell you are going to increase your size and muscularity without trying to constantly increase the amount of weight you do - in other words, progressive overload / resistance. Volume is more of an ancillary variable, since you can do high volume with light weights and unless you are juicing, that technique isn't going to get you any size.
Perfect advise. 8)
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Nothing is absolute, except vodka, your body will burn fat and muscle during caloric defecit and during exercise
but there are ways to mitigate the muscle lose, some of it is highly debatable (BCAA, Glutamine, EAA)
even the method of cardio highly is detable (45min target heart rate vs stop and go sprinting)
the key is to find out what works best for your body
candizzle disagrees.. He says brocollii and chicken = the key to cutting down for everyone.
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I even read some study ( think it was MD mag) where the results stated that carbs + whey + EAA didn't show any appreciable difference over whey + EAA in regards to PWO shakes
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Perfect advise. 8)
You going to come up to Akl for the NZ grand prix DVS? NZMM is coming up. I hope to Hell I won't have to be away around that time - I'd love to go see that show.
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your fucking stupid. go ahead and do your morning cardio on a completely empty stomach9without the whey isolate or any bcaa's)...if your glycogen is anywhere near depleted your going to be burning up a shit load of muscle.
YOU NEED TO LISTEN MORE INSTEAD OF GIVING ADVISE, I have done 8 shows and always have done morning cardio on a emty stomach, I didnt burn a shit load of muscle like you say, I did burn alot of fat .
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YOU NEED TO LISTEN MORE INSTEAD OF GIVING ADVISE, I have done 8 shows and always have done morning cardio on a emty stomach, I didnt burn a shit load of muscle like you say, I did burn alot of fat .
I think that rules are different for nattys and "non nattys"
everything is debatable..nothing is absolute
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I think that rules are different for nattys and "non nattys"
everything is debatable..nothing is absolute
Your first statement is right, but not the second. There are heaps of absolutes in bodybuilding like there are in every thing else - the fact that you need to lift weights or do some kind of resistance training to induce growth in a muscle is an absolute, just like the fact that you need to consume adequate nutrients to heal and grow, and so on and so on. Of course, the practical aspect of each of that is context dependent.
Without absolutes, the Universe wouldn't exist my friend.
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I think that rules are different for nattys and "non nattys"
everything is debatable..nothing is absolute
True, I have done cardio on a empty stomach pre contest, natural and other wise, never really seamed to be a problem with burning muscle though.
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Perfect advise. 8)
Wholeheartedly agreed 8)
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Debussey does not lose strength at all while dieting properly. Never have as long as the weight loss has been approximately 1 - 1,2 pounds each week. Sometimes, Debussey has had strength increases WHILE dieting.
you mean that massive 155 for 5 bench doesn't go down at all? :o
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You going to come up to Akl for the NZ grand prix DVS? NZMM is coming up. I hope to Hell I won't have to be away around that time - I'd love to go see that show.
Im hoping to but dont you want to be left alone with NZMM ;D :D
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LOL. dieting is not hard bro..
You'll think twice about that when and if you get to the stage you decide to do a show.
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candizzle disagrees.. He says brocollii and chicken = the key to cutting down for everyone.
He's not completly off.....but just a little mislead at times and has much to learn.
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He's not completly off.....but just a little mislead at times and has much to learn.
He pushes advice that we already know.. ::) Read from websites and experts..
He acts as though we don't know. He's never done it himself.
Getting to 5% bf is HARD. That's a fact for even users, and for naturals it's REALLY hard.
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He pushes advice that we already know.. ::) Read from websites and experts..
He acts as though we don't know. He's never done it himself.
Getting to 5% bf is HARD. That's a fact for even users, and for naturals it's REALLY hard.
candizzle seems to be under the impression that going from 20% bf to 15% is the same as going from 10% to 5%.
are you claiming otherwise?
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You'll think twice about that when and if you get to the stage you decide to do a show.
Same to you, pal.
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Same to you, pal.
Haha...I don't see you making any attempts. Trust me, it'll be a whole new ballgame the next time.
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Haha...I don't see you making any attempts. Trust me, it'll be a whole new ballgame the next time.
Why, you coming to workout at the Koloseum? I'll meet you there! :D
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Why, you coming to workout at the Koloseum? I'll meet you there! :D
Gotta better idea, why don't you come to MetRx?
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Canhisadviseaddizle
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Gotta better idea, why don't you come to MetRx?
WTF is MetRx? Isn't that a supplement company?
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candizzle seems to be under the impression that going from 20% bf to 15% is the same as going from 10% to 5%.
are you claiming otherwise?
try going from 40% to 9 %...
then come talk to me.
and when you do, ill let you know about going from 40% to 9% while increasing muscle mass considerably and strength as well.
...bitch.
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try going from 40% to 9 %...
then come talk to me.
and when you do, ill let you know about going from 40% to 9% while increasing muscle mass considerably and strength as well.
...bitch.
Simple, cindidickweed, just steal a shitload of $$$ from your family and get all coked out......40% to 9% ;)
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Ah, ok. Do you think this guy is a perma bulker? He goes by the handle "pumphard" on the alphabet boards. He's also expressed lusts for underage girls boys. Fucking sicko. >:(
Fixed.
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try going from 40% to 9 %...
then come talk to me.
and when you do, ill let you know about going from 40% to 9% while increasing muscle mass considerably and strength as well.
...bitch.
Going from 40 % to 9% ,is easier than going from 9% to 5% . Hope this helps :)
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I am in Spanish Harlem partying, while going from club to club I gave into my hunger and bought a 6 piece nuggets from mcdonalds, I feel guilty..
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I am in Spanish Harlem partying, while going from club to club I gave into my hunger and bought a 6 piece nuggets from mcdonalds, I feel guilty..
Put your finger down your throat......get it out now!!!!! >:(
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Put your finger down your throat......get it out now!!!!! >:(
lmao. ;D This is funny...steele sounds like a girl on her period... ;D
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Going from 40 % to 9% ,is easier than going from 9% to 5% . Hope this helps :)
I agree. In many ways it's a linear inverse relationship. The lower your bodyfat, the harder it is (and the more muscle you lose). Getting below 8-9% without AAS makes most people look like Billy Guns.
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lmao. ;D This is funny...steele sounds like a girl on her period... ;D
Hater...I will be doing 1 hour of Cardio 1st thing tomorrow
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you mean that massive 155 for 5 bench doesn't go down at all? :o
Dude... I never post so I am sure you will say I have no credibility... but please tell me that you are joking when you bust peoples balls.... or at least that those embarrassing pictures you posted are not really you.... Come on man... Don't worry.. I actually have a job and family so I don't post or even come here often.. therefore I won't be constant pain in your arse.. I just had to ask because I see how you LOVE to try and degrade others... There is NO way that you are proud of the way you look or you would have posted an actual picture and not that pathetic "reflection"... I know what made you do it... Because of the way the pic hides some of your flaws and makes your flabby arm look a little larger than it is.. This was simply the BEST pic you have ever taken... I have to tell you (but you already know this)... You are a joke to anyone that has ever really trained and has a decent amount of muscle... As far as bodybuilding being about massive muscle and not skinny swimmer builds... I agree totally... but dude... you don't have much muscle at all... True you are not "skinny fat"... you are simply "FAT FAT"....And I know you now are going to ask for my pics... I may post some but either way... you are a douche...
Oh... BTW... I AM a badass (Marine Corps) as well as doing pretty friggin well in the financial world...(mortgage broker).... but none of that has any bearing on the fact that you are just a fat dude on the net...
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Dude... I never post so I am sure you will say I have no credibility... but please tell me that you are joking when you bust peoples balls.... or at least that those embarrassing pictures you posted are not really you.... Come on man... Don't worry.. I actually have a job and family so I don't post or even come here often.. therefore I won't be constant pain in your arse.. I just had to ask because I see how you LOVE to try and degrade others... There is NO way that you are proud of the way you look or you would have posted an actual picture and not that pathetic "reflection"... I know what made you do it... Because of the way the pic hides some of your flaws and makes your flabby arm look a little larger than it is.. This was simply the BEST pic you have ever taken... I have to tell you (but you already know this)... You are a joke to anyone that has ever really trained and has a decent amount of muscle... As far as bodybuilding being about massive muscle and not skinny swimmer builds... I agree totally... but dude... you don't have much muscle at all... True you are not "skinny fat"... you are simply "FAT FAT"....And I know you now are going to ask for my pics... I may post some but either way... you are a douche...
Oh... BTW... I AM a badass (Marine Corps) as well as doing pretty friggin well in the financial world...(mortgage broker).... but none of that has any bearing on the fact that you are just a fat dude on the net...
hahahahahahaa, another "guy" who waited for two years building up the courage to confront an anonymous internet personality, hahahhaa, how did you train for this day Mr. Badass Marine and Sucessful Businessman? ;D
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hahahahahahaa, another "guy" who waitind for two years building up the courage to confront an anonymous internet personality, hahahhaa, how did you train for this day Mr. Badass Marine and Sucessful Businessman? ;D
You must friggin LIVE here...lol... dude... get a life and off your fat ass... It is absolutely killing you that look like you do... Just so you know... I too am naturally not all that lean... but discipline is how I maintain my build... that discipline, and the intestinal fortitude that the Corps cultivated, have played a major role in all of my accomplishments... I do not look down on you SF... I do not believe that simply because I am one the "haves" and you are one of the "have nots"... that you are less a person... You can easily change your live man... You do not have to go through life with low self-esteem....
I was hard in my first post because you need to break down your false confidence and build a feeling of true self worth...
Don't worry though... I am logging off now... Its a beautiful day and I am heading to my camp with the family... Do something constructive man... try getting off the net and getting out with people... you don't have to stay inside all the time... you look like the average man on the street so there is no need to feel inadequate
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You must friggin LIVE here...lol... dude... get a life and off your fat ass... It is absolutely killing you that look like you do... Just so you know... I too am naturally not all that lean... but discipline is how I maintain my build... that discipline, and the intestinal fortitude that the Corps cultivated, have played a major role in all of my accomplishments... I do not look down on you SF... I do not believe that simply because I am one the "haves" and you are one of the "have nots"... that you are less a person... You can easily change your live man... You do not have to go through life with low self-esteem....
I was hard in my first post because you need to break down your false confidence and build a feeling of true self worth...
Don't worry though... I am logging off now... Its a beautiful day and I am heading to my camp with the family... Do something constructive man... try getting off the net and getting out with people... you don't have to stay inside all the time... you look like the average man on the street so there is no need to feel inadequate
post a picture of yourself, while you're at it post some naked pics of your daughter and wife as well. :D
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Dude... I never post so I am sure you will say I have no credibility... but please tell me that you are joking when you bust peoples balls.... or at least that those embarrassing pictures you posted are not really you.... Come on man... Don't worry.. I actually have a job and family so I don't post or even come here often.. therefore I won't be constant pain in your arse.. I just had to ask because I see how you LOVE to try and degrade others... There is NO way that you are proud of the way you look or you would have posted an actual picture and not that pathetic "reflection"... I know what made you do it... Because of the way the pic hides some of your flaws and makes your flabby arm look a little larger than it is.. This was simply the BEST pic you have ever taken... I have to tell you (but you already know this)... You are a joke to anyone that has ever really trained and has a decent amount of muscle... As far as bodybuilding being about massive muscle and not skinny swimmer builds... I agree totally... but dude... you don't have much muscle at all... True you are not "skinny fat"... you are simply "FAT FAT"....And I know you now are going to ask for my pics... I may post some but either way... you are a douche...
Oh... BTW... I AM a badass (Marine Corps) as well as doing pretty friggin well in the financial world...(mortgage broker).... but none of that has any bearing on the fact that you are just a fat dude on the net...
typical perma bulker
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You are probably just as big as Squatfather we take fat out of the calculation.
Squatfather: 235 pounds at 25% bodyfat = 176,25 pounds of lean mass.
SteelePegasus: Approx 200 pounds at 12% bodyfat: 176 pounds of lean mass.
If this example holds true, Squadfather don't have much on ya, expect having more fat on his body. The size and weight of the lean body mass = the same. Even if the numbers here = a bit off, Squadfather is still around your size if we don't factor in his fat.
debussey it is even crazier than that
I am actually stronger than him!!!
I can squeeze out 315 for about 4-5 reps (315 / 198 = 1.59)
so basically I can lift 1.59 times my bodyweight
Squad is about 240ish
240 * 1.59 = 381 for 4-5 reps...can he do that?
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ok, brb..cardio time ;D
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You are probably just as big as Squatfather we take fat out of the calculation.
Squatfather: 235 pounds at 25% bodyfat = 176,25 pounds of lean mass.
SteelePegasus: Approx 200 pounds at 12% bodyfat: 176 pounds of lean mass.
If this example holds true, Squadfather don't have much on ya, expect having more fat on his body. The size and weight of the lean body mass = the same. Even if the numbers here = a bit off, Squadfather is still around your size if we don't factor in his fat.
you drastically underestimated, i'm actually 63 percent bodyfat. :D
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You are big and very strong, no denying that at all.
But if we don't look at the fat, you and SteelePegasus are about at the same level/size in lean body mass, but you might be a bit stronger.
no worries man, i've never claimed to be some shredded cover model but one thing i love is how guys always start using the whole, "if we were the same weight, height, race, bodyfat, same location, pound for pound, etc., etc., etc.", if some one lifts more weight they are stronger.......period.
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no worries man, i've never claimed to be some shredded cover model but one thing i love is how guys always start using the whole, "if we were the same weight, height, race, bodyfat, same location, pound for pound, etc., etc., etc.", if some one lifts more weight they are stronger.......period.
I agree, I was just having some fun
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I agree, I was just having some fun
i know man, no worries. ;D
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Wow, "droopy dong" had a couple of meltdowns and then just split huh? Now wonder he doesn't post that often.....
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Wow, "droopy dong" had a couple of meltdowns and then just split huh? Now wonder he doesn't post that often.....
From reading his posts, he is probably too busy banging his harem of bitches in the back of the TAPOUT bus to bother with a reply.
Jason