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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: BayGBM on October 26, 2008, 08:25:34 AM
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The other day, Arvilla said he didn’t know about the G4P side (we can disagree on how big or small that side is) of bodybuilding until he came to getbig and other message boards. I found this comment interesting coming from someone who has been involved in the sport for so many years.
When did the rest of you clue in to the G4P side? How many of you are like Arvilla and didn’t know what was going on until you came to getbig or a similar board? With sites like musclegallery.com accessible with just a mouse click it’s impossible to deny that at least posing is going on. When did you realize there was a schmoe side to pro bodybuilding?
None of us can un-know what we now know, but do you think you were better off before you knew?
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arvilla is the Italian word for naive
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arvilla is the Italian word for naive
Since big Mike is NOT a part of that scene I doubt he knew much about it until someone pointed it out to him.
I think that a bodybuilder has every right to do whever they want with anyone they want for any reason so long as it is between adults and not illegal.
Having said that if it gets out the pro should be warned and then suspended.
As part of an organization a pro bodybuilder represents the IFBB.
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I know some top bodybuilders, and I am sure none of them have ever done gay for pay stuff. Other dodgy stuff yes (eg protection and money collection, nightclub doormen, dealing etc, but G4P never. I do believe it happens, but lets not get mix up and think every pro does it. You probably do get the occasional homo or pervert, but I think it pretty rare.
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I almost fell off my chair cracking up over that pic!
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I know some top bodybuilders, and I am sure none of them have ever done gay for pay stuff. Other dodgy stuff yes (eg protection and money collection, nightclub doormen, dealing etc, but G4P never. I do believe it happens, but lets not get mix up and think every pro does it. You probably do get the occasional homo or pervert, but I think it pretty rare.
Exactly , I am sure most big time BB's don't get involved with that crap . That is why the IFBB should get rid off those that enage in it on a continual basis.
Howard
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Agree.
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The other day, Arvilla said he didn’t know about the G4P side (we can disagree on how big or small that side is) of bodybuilding until he came to getbig and other message boards. I found this comment interesting coming from someone who has been involved in the sport for so many years.
When did the rest of you clue in to the G4P side? How many of you are like Arvilla and didn’t know what was going on until you came to getbig or a similar board? With sites like musclegallery.com accessible with just a mouse click it’s impossible to deny that at least posing is going on. When did you realize there was a schmoe side to pro bodybuilding?
None of us can un-know what we now know, but do you think you were better off before you knew?
I knew about the G4P side of bodybuilding long before the internet , Arnold eluded to the fact the sport attracts many gay men ( duh ) and Musclemag International being very liberal especially compared to the more conservative Muscle & Fitness and Flex had the ads in the back of their magazines anyone will any intelligence can but two-and-two together , but with the advent of the internet and the heavy exposure of information and opportunities it's more out of the closet ( no pun intended )
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I knew about the G4P side of bodybuilding long before the internet , Arnold eluded to the fact the sport attracts many gay men ( duh ) and Musclemag International being very liberal especially compared to the more conservative Muscle & Fitness and Flex had the ads in the back of their magazines anyone will any intelligence can but two-and-two together , but with the advent of the internet and the heavy exposure of information and opportunities it's more out of the closet ( no pun intended )
Great t and quite true. Should guys now be banned from the IFBB for continued exposure of it?
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I know some top bodybuilders, and I am sure none of them have ever done gay for pay stuff. Other dodgy stuff yes (eg protection and money collection, nightclub doormen, dealing etc, but G4P never. I do believe it happens, but lets not get mix up and think every pro does it. You probably do get the occasional homo or pervert, but I think it pretty rare.
I disagree I don't think it's rare I think it's more prevalent than you think , it all depends on the person . and let's face it bodybuilding professionally is a sport of compromises , most don't hold full time jobs , a lot resort to dealing AAS or recreational drugs , stripping be it for females or not , or training clients
some guys are above all the nonsense most aren't that's life
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Great t and quite true. Should guys now be banned from the IFBB for continued exposure of it?
banned ? I don't think so , this sport is one giant facade anyone who is casting stones in this sport better move out of their glass houses , they sport on paper admonishes steroid use but that's their bread & butter and they're going to complain about guys supplementing their income? it's sorta like the Military's policy of don't ask don't tell , they know it's part of the game but they have to keep up appearances
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I know some top bodybuilders, and I am sure none of them have ever done gay for pay stuff. Other dodgy stuff yes (eg protection and money collection, nightclub doormen, dealing etc, but G4P never. I do believe it happens, but lets not get mix up and think every pro does it. You probably do get the occasional homo or pervert, but I think it pretty rare.
Ok, I’ll take the bait: what makes you so sure? Are your top bodybuilder friends independently wealthy? Have they always been wealthy? Or do they “not seem like the type”? ::) I simply do not understand the “if I don’t know about it, it doesn’t exist” mentality of some people—and this mentality is certainly not limited to the darker side of bodybuilding.
Most bodybuilders who do this sort of thing prefer to be discreet about it so it is only logical that you wouldn’t know what they do to raise money.
A true story:
When I was on the gay muscle/escort board about 10 years ago, I can recall one up and coming bodybuilder who joined the board and made it clear he was looking for a sponsor. He was very specific: unlike many of the less dedicated muscle wannabes on that site, he wanted ONE substantial sponsor he could “work with” rather than a handful of a small johns with small wallets. In other words, he wanted a full time body building sponsor and was not willing to hustle for nickels and dimes. He was already in excellent shape and made it clear he was willing to do whatever it took to get ahead.
Soon after he appeared on that site, he disappeared and never came back. Eventually, someone started a thread about him asking whatever happened to him. The moderator reported that he found the sponsor he was looking for and consequently had no reason to remain on the site. He concentrated on his training and the sponsor who made it possible.
Today, he is a competing pro and I chuckle every time I see him on stage or in publicity photos, magazines, etc. If I told you his name you would recognize him immediately.
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Most of the top bodybuilders I know are not wealthy. They live in average places, and their life revolves around eating, sleeping and training. But G4P they would not do, I am sure about that. Other illegal stuff yes, maybe. But nothing gay for sure. As I said earlier, I do suspect it happens though. I once had a gay guy make a move on me in a sauna at the gym, and I know there are gays hanging arounf gyms for sure.
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were you better off without BayGBM posting?
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Ok, I’ll take the bait: what makes you so sure? Are your top bodybuilder friends independently wealthy? Have they always been wealthy? Or do they “not seem like the type”? ::) I simply do not understand the “if I don’t know about it, it doesn’t exist” mentality of some people—and this mentality is certainly not limited to the darker side of bodybuilding.
Most bodybuilders who do this sort of thing prefer to be discreet about it so it is only logical that you wouldn’t now what they do to raise money.
A true story:
When I was on the gay muscle/escort board about 10 years ago, I can recall one up and coming bodybuilder who joined the board and made it clear he was looking for a sponsor. He was very specific: unlike many of the less dedicated muscle wannabes on that site, he wanted ONE substantial sponsor he could “work with” rather than a handful of a small johns with small wallets. In other words, he wanted a full time body building sponsor and was not willing to hustle for nickels and dimes. He was already in excellent shape and made it clear he was willing to do whatever it took to get ahead.
Soon after he appeared on that site, he disappeared and never came back. Eventually, someone started a thread about him asking whatever happened to him. The moderator reported that he found the sponsor he was looking for and consequently had no reason to remain on the site. He concentrated on his training and the sponsor who made it possible.
Today, he is a competing pro and I chuckle every time I see him on stage or in publicity photos, magazines, etc. If I told you his name you would recognize him immediately.
so ?
kai green ?
rodney st cloud?
who?
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is there something wrong with my train of thought that I find that the whole G4P thing just goes hand in hand with pro bb'ing.
Business wise, you would have to be a schmuck to turn down easy money- if you can get 500 bucks (i don't know the given rate so i just put up 500 just for the hell of it) for a half hour of non-contact muscle worship than more power to you
the fact of the matter is, most guys who do G4p wish that women would pay for those types of services but unfortunately women aren't wired like that
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is there something wrong with my train of thought that I find that the whole G4P thing just goes hand in hand with pro bb'ing.
Business wise, you would have to be a schmuck to turn down easy money- if you can get 500 bucks (i don't know the given rate so i just put up 500 just for the hell of it) for a half hour of non-contact muscle worship than more power to you
the fact of the matter is, most guys who do G4p wish that women would pay for those types of services but unfortunately women aren't wired like that
johnny with every single ppst, you reveal yourself to be gay :-\
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johnny with every single ppst, you reveal yourself to be gay :-\
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panda,
I've said this many a time,
the lord played a funny joke on me by not making me a gay because I would such a superstud if I was gay.
Jesus played a cruel joke on me making me a breeder
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Most of the top bodybuilders I know are not wealthy. They live in average places, and their life revolves around eating, sleeping and training. But G4P they would not do, I am sure about that. Other illegal stuff yes, maybe. But nothing gay for sure. As I said earlier, I do suspect it happens though. I once had a gay guy make a move on me in a sauna at the gym, and I know there are gays hanging arounf gyms for sure.
gib:
I’d be curious to know what you consider “rare.” On musclegallery.com alone there are many names everyone here would recognize. I consider musclegallery G4P. And that is what some guys are willing to do publicly (anyone can access that MG). Imagine what some will do if it is completely on the down low!
Maybe I’ve become cynical in my old age. I’d like to think I would never go the way of Timo or BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT and name names, but I see a lot of hypocrisy and denial in this sport.
I find it interesting that you can perfectly imagine your top bodybuilder friends engaged in “Other illegal stuff” but think G4P is somehow beyond the pale for them. At what point do you think it becomes G4P? Is posing for musclegallery G4P? Is posing for one person in private G4P?
btw, the gay guys you find at your gym are probably bi and on the DL. If you live in a major city there are plenty of gay gyms and that is often where gay guys go.
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I learned about g4p on Getbig and now I feel dirty every time I lift. >:(
If you've ever heard of plain ol prostitution then you're probably going to conclude there's some gay sex for hire in bodybuilding. No one should have to clue you in on that. Getbig opened my eyes to its prevalance tho, and to female muscle worship which never occured to me because it's so goddamn weird frankly.
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btw, the gay guys you find at your gym are probably bi and on the DL. If you live in a major city there are plenty of gay gyms and that is often where gay guys go.
In my city, the gays go to the YMCA. Its pretty much a gay gym. Tonnnes of old gay fellas. Its alright though, for the most part they're all real dedicated and cool folks, its the fuckin persians i dont like.
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Today, he is a competing pro and I chuckle every time I see him on stage or in publicity photos, magazines, etc. If I told you his name you would recognize him immediately.
Thank you for not selling out Branch Warren.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=242927.0;attach=283073;image)
tell me someone photoshopped this. that's not ben weider...right?
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=242927.0;attach=283073;image)
tell me someone photoshopped this. that's not ben weider...right?
It's Joe :-X
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The other day, Arvilla said he didn’t know about the G4P side (we can disagree on how big or small that side is) of bodybuilding until he came to getbig and other message boards. I found this comment interesting coming from someone who has been involved in the sport for so many years.
When did the rest of you clue in to the G4P side? How many of you are like Arvilla and didn’t know what was going on until you came to getbig or a similar board? With sites like musclegallery.com accessible with just a mouse click it’s impossible to deny that at least posing is going on. When did you realize there was a schmoe side to pro bodybuilding?
None of us can un-know what we now know, but do you think you were better off before you knew?
All due respect but does hanging out at a gym, posting on message boards or counting reps for fat housewives count as "Being involved in the sport for so many years"?
Anyone who seriously competed and or won something would know about bodybuilders doing icky stuff to make ends meet. True, MD is the only mag that was willing to openly discuss it and the articles pretty much said: don't judge, drugs aren't cheap. :)
Anyone with a brain knows only a small percentage of bodybuilders make serious money and without schmoes/schmoettes most of the lower tier people could never afford to compete.
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All due respect but does hanging out at a gym, posting on message boards or counting reps for fat housewives count as "Being involved in the sport for so many years"?
Anyone who seriously competed and or won something would know about bodybuilders doing icky stuff to make ends meet. True, MD is the only mag that was willing to openly discuss it and the articles pretty much said: don't judge, drugs aren't cheap. :)
Anyone with a brain knows only a small percentage of bodybuilders make serious money and without schmoes/schmoettes most of the lower tier people could never afford to compete.
I need to see pics of these Schmoettes?
I need to see what kind of woman looks at a pro bb'er and says to herself "yes, that is what i need to make me feel whole"
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=242927.0;attach=283073;image)
tell me someone photoshopped this. that's not ben weider...right?
My naïve young friend... you have so much to learn. :-[
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what does it matter ??? i dont see why it matters..
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what does it matter ??? i dont see why it matters..
looking for a sponsor candy ? ;D
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I need to see pics of these Schmoettes?
Do you really want to see pictures of a chick so busted that supporting a bodybuilder is the only way to have decent looking company? :)
Here's the only thing left to question.... Does dancing for gays make you gay?
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Do you really want to see pictures of a chick so busted that supporting a bodybuilder is the only way to have decent looking company? :)
Here's the only thing left to question.... Does dancing for gays make you gay?
to answer both of your questions,
no (that is TRULY a sad woman on the inside and out)
and no
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All due respect but does hanging out at a gym, posting on message boards or counting reps for fat housewives count as "Being involved in the sport for so many years"?
Unlike many here who try to distance themselves from bodybuilding, Mike is an unapologetic fan of the sport. He trains hard, goes to shows, has pix with pros he has met, reads the mags, and has a video library of workout vids. And he has been at it for years!
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so a couple lower tier bodybuilders posed for rich gay guys
who cares?
many actors and actresses have done "whatever it takes" to get parts in movies, should we quit watching the movies?
E
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The problem is not the Gay but the 4Pay part. This automatically makes bodybuilding an adult sport only. People can do whatever they want, but who wants to introduce someone to his friends or family with "meet my bodybuilding hero and BTW he's also a whore"?
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so a couple lower tier bodybuilders posed for rich gay guys
who cares?
many actors and actresses have done "whatever it takes" to get parts in movies, should we quit watching the movies?
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young females suck teachers dicks for A's in their college classes and suck cocks for jobs as personal assistants and shit everyday.. nodbody cares one iota... why anybody would care about some bodybuilder posing for a dude to get some money.. ?? homophobes, thats why...
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Unlike many here who try to distance themselves from bodybuilding, Mike is an unapologetic fan of the sport. He trains hard, goes to shows, has pix with pros he has met, reads the mags, and has a video library of workout vids. And he has been at it for years!
Come on?!
Anyone that's been hanging around a hard core gym has met tons of drug dealers and guys who happen to have rich housemates that help them out. Those things have been and will always be part of the sport.
Mike's a nice guy and probably not stupid. Maybe he'd just rather see the best in people and didn't ask any questions. :)
Also, I'm not convinced bodybuilding is a sport.
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Also, I'm not convinced bodybuilding is a sport.
the dictionary says it is
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mm mmmm mmmm i would love to be sitting in that chair!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=242927.0;attach=283073;image)
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mm mmmm mmmm i would love to be sitting in that chair!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=242927.0;attach=283073;image)
You would love to sit on Joe's lap? :-X :-X :-X
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My naïve young friend... you have so much to learn. :-[
it looks like you were the only one missing from that pic, BayGBM :)
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mm mmmm mmmm i would love to be sitting in that chair!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=242927.0;attach=283073;image)
::) "Please don't flame me guys"
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We all know how far addicts will go to get drugs. :)
G4P doesn't surprise anyone.
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it looks like you were the only one missing from that pic, BayGBM :)
That pic is funny for so many reasons; it is a classic. At the very least, it shows Joe does not discriminate. ;D
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bay was it a black or white guy ?
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I figured out the whole shady side a longtime ago. I remember reading the magazines years ago and finding it funny that most of these guys had no real job.
Personally, I'm happy the whole gay for pay thing has been needled out into the open. Watching people feign ignorance and seeing various bodybuilders exposed has brought me tons of laughs over the years.
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We all know how far addicts will go to get drugs. :)
G4P doesn't surprise anyone.
Good point about drug addicts. But I don't think it's fair to say G4P does not surprise anyone. My PMs confirm that many guys learned about it here for the first time and have had their bubble burst. Being naïve about this makes sense when you're 17, but by the time you're 40 one should know better. :-\
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bay thinks musclegallery is g4p? there's no nudity there. suggestive videos, sure. but no nudity.
musclehunks is j/o videos. sure that's a little more gay, and a bad image for the sport. but its still not g4p.
g4p is escorting and prostitution. prostitution is illegal. it is certainly bad for the sport. but same with the women. there are IFBB pro women who escort. they have the wrestling videos. all of that is bad for the image of the sport.
what has always bothered me about the powers that be in bodybuilding is that they looked the other way regarding escorting, whether male or female, as long as it was kept out of the public eye. but they blacklisted any guy who was openly gay, even those who never did prostitution or porn.
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bay was it a black or white guy ?
Does that matter? Let me put it this way: it is not who you think it is. I will never name him, but other members of that board (who are also on getbig) probably remember the entire episode I described and they know who he is.
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i think some unnamed parties were actually happy when they found out :D
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Does that matter? Let me put it this way: it is not who you think it is. I will never name him, but other members of that board (who are also on getbig) probably remember the entire episode I described and they know who he is.
yes it matters - it will help me narrow down my witch hunt :D
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looking for a sponsor candy ? ;D
;D
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i think some unnamed parties were actually happy when they found out :D
For schadenfreude or because they wanted to make a purchase? :-\
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Good point about drug addicts. But I don't think it's fair to say G4P does not surprise anyone. My PMs confirm that many guys learned about it here for the first time and have had their bubble burst. Being naïve about this makes sense when you're 17, but by the time you're 40 one should know better. :-\
No one is surprised when a crack head takes money for a BJ, LOL!
Any bubble bursting effect you speak of is probably more due to the closeted curious being shocked at how easy getting next to some of their heros really would be. :)
Even people who don't do G4P or straight up prostitution probably sponge off hangers on to some extent or occasionally hit an ugly chick (with a credit card to order sups and have them delivered) for the greater good. How many fat schmoes have you heard of going broke trying to help a fitness chick's career? It's not prostitution but a lot of them take advantage of people all the time to get free stuff or extra help.
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I'm sorry, but I fail to see the big deal about moderate forms of "G4P." Can any of you tell me honestly that if some schmuck was willing to pay you in excess of $500 for 30-60 min of non-touch worship you wouldn't do it? Especially if you allready made your money by posing in a thong. Its not that far of a leap from a bodybuilding stage to someones private residence/hotel. If we are talking about sucking/fucking that is a different story, but if your body is how you made your living, I don't see too many people turning down easy cash, for just posing for someone.
Another thing to consider is that your average pro/upcoming amateur, probably has ego/insecurity issues that would enable him to actually enjoy the experience, not from a sexual standpoint mind you, but from the thrill that they know that they can charge somebody, (male or female), to procure their body for sexual gratification.
I would speculate that a lot of this has to do with the basic male psyche...(only in the average bodybuilders case one can amplify that). When you start transforming your body, and people begin to take notice of that....the sense of validation is quite gratifying. It probably doesn't matter where that attention comes from at that point... it still feeds that ego, and that sense of insecurity that probably prompted you to change yourself to begin with.
In a nutshell I think that "G4P" is more common then people would think, (but probably not quite as prevalent as Bay would have us believe...at least at the pro level), and I think the straight bodybuilders that engage in this activity (mostly) enjoy the attention. Just not for sexual reasons....
M!
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I'm sorry, but I fail to see the big deal about moderate forms of "G4P." Can any of you tell me honestly that if some schmuck was willing to pay you in excess of $500 for 30-60 min of non-touch worship you wouldn't do it? Especially if you allready made your money by posing in a thong. Its not that far of a leap from a bodybuilding stage to someones private residence/hotel. If we are talking about sucking/fucking that is a different story, but if your body is how you made your living, I don't see too many people turning down easy cash, for just posing for someone.
Another thing to consider is that your average pro/upcoming amateur, probably has ego/insecurity issues that would enable him to actually enjoy the experience, not from a sexual standpoint mind you, but from the thrill that they know that they can charge somebody, (male or female), to procure their body for sexual gratification.
I would speculate that a lot of this has to do with the basic male psyche...(only in the average bodybuilders case one can amplify that). When you start transforming your body, and people begin to take notice of that....the sense of validation is quite gratifying. It probably doesn't matter where that attention comes from at that point... it still feeds that ego, and that sense of insecurity that probably prompted you to change yourself to begin with.
In a nutshell I think that "G4P" is more common then people would think, (but probably not quite as prevalent as Bay would have us believe...at least at the pro level), and I think the straight bodybuilders that engage in this activity (mostly) enjoy the attention. Just not for sexual reasons....
M!
Your reply is thoughtful and provocative. I am particularly intrigued by your claim that "It's not that far of a leap from a bodybuilding stage to someone's private residence/hotel."
I wonder how many getbiggers, amateurs, and pros would agree with that. ??? Mentally, I think it would be a huge leap for a lot of guys.
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Some of them probably make less money on the stage. :)
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Yet another Bay attention whore thread ::)
Bay: "If you only knew the names of those who does G4P..."
The rest of Getbig: "Tell us"
Bay: "You wouldn't believe me"
The rest of Getbig: "Come on, tell us"
Bay: "No, I won't tell you, despite that it was me who started the thread and brought up the topic. I'm just loving the attention"
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Yet another Bay attention whore thread ::)
Bay: "If you only knew the names of those who does G4P..."
The rest of Getbig: "Tell us"
Bay: "You wouldn't believe me"
The rest of Getbig: "Come on, tell us"
Bay: "No, I won't tell you, despite that it was me who started the thread and brought up the topic. I'm just loving the attention"
good point
"topskin69" too
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Yet another Bay attention whore thread ::)
Bay: "If you only knew the names of those who does G4P..."
The rest of Getbig: "Tell us"
Bay: "You wouldn't believe me"
The rest of Getbig: "Come on, tell us"
Bay: "No, I won't tell you, despite that it was me who started the thread and brought up the topic. I'm just loving the attention"
If you feel that way, why are you reading and posting in this thread? On page 3 no less? ??? Presumably, you have better things to do with your time. At the very least, you have more than 500 other threads to choose from... yet here you are.
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How about making a list of people who haven't done G4P?
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Your reply is thoughtful and provocative. I am particularly intrigued by your claim that "It's not that far of a leap from a bodybuilding stage to someone's private residence/hotel."
I wonder how many getbiggers, amateurs, and pros would agree with that. Mentally, I think it would be a huge leap for a lot of guys
Well....I don't think that many of the aforementioned people would readily admit it, but truth be told, it really isn't that far of a leap. Think about it.... everything is a progression... Would a rookie bodybuilder feel comfortable posing in a gym mirror while other people are looking? Would a beginning bodybuilder feel comfortable taking steroids at first, (in light of our societies stigma towards them?)
Probably not.... but as time progresses...so does ones comfort level, and perhaps even ones confidence. Its not long before one probably says to themselves, (I will start taking steroids, but no insulin, only small cycles, etc), then its more drugs, then more exotic things like insulin, gh, etc...
This runs parallel with ones sexual comfort level in this "sport." At first one would feel awkward about posing in front of men, both because it is sexually awkward, and because one has to feel comfortable with their physique first. That line also erodes after time... its not long before stomaching the courage to join a bodybuilding competition......and that line in the sand keeps getting stretched further and further...
How far this line will go depends on many variables, but the main two, would be, how far that person is, (is he a top amateur, upcoming pro, etc), or how deluded one might think of his potential in this endeavor.
This of course wouldn't apply to everyone....but to most people on their way up the ladder. Once you are at the upper echelon, it would be counterproductive to indulge people and "G4P." But for those that aren't elite....it is an enticing offer.
Keep in mind that part of the appeal of this sport, whether one realizes it or not, is the Rouge Mentality that one has to adopt to make it. Never mind the G4P for a min... one has to effectively become a criminal to make it in bodybuilding. Its a slippery slope from there...so no I don't think it is a far stretch from a bodybuilding stage to someones living room, and to be honest, that doesn't really bother me. (At least not from a moral standpoint.)
M!
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In a nutshell I think that "G4P" is more common then people would think, (but probably not quite as prevalent as Bay would have us believe...at least at the pro level), and I think the straight bodybuilders that engage in this activity (mostly) enjoy the attention. Just not for sexual reasons....
even in "30-60 min of non-touch worship" the client is having sex. I don't know too many straight or gay boys who'd be willing to be in the same room while some schmoe is jacking off.
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even in "30-60 min of non-touch worship" the client is having sex. I don't know too many straight or gay boys who'd be willing to be in the same room while some schmoe is jacking off.
Gross, TF!!
Gross!!
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even in "30-60 min of non-touch worship" the client is having sex. I don't know too many straight or gay boys who'd be willing to be in the same room while some schmoe is jacking off
I appreciate your input Tim, but I think that you are looking at this from too black&white if an angle. To the AVERAGE straight person sure.... but keep in mind that your typical hardcore bodybuilder is not anywhere CLOSE to being average....if they were they wouldn't be involved in bodybuilding, (at least at the level that we are discussing) in the first place!
Bodybuilding is a subculture! What do all subcultures have in common? They attract people that for one reason or another felt alienated from the mainstream of society. This applies to all of us...it is just a matter of degree.
I don't think that using a typical person as a point of refrence is valid when disscussing a bodybuilders psyche.
M!
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I appreciate your input Tim, but I think that you are looking at this from too black&white if an angle. To the AVERAGE straight person sure.... but keep in mind that your typical hardcore bodybuilder is not anywhere CLOSE to being average....if they were they wouldn't be involved in bodybuilding, (at least at the level that we are discussing) in the first place!
Bodybuilding is a subculture! What do all subcultures have in common? They attract people that for one reason or another felt alienated from the mainstream of society. This applies to all of us...it is just a matter of degree.
I don't think that using a typical person as a point of refrence is valid when disscussing a bodybuilders psyche.
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Straight is straight, LOL!
Plus I can't get TF's image out of my head. :)
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I appreciate your input Tim, but I think that you are looking at this from too black&white if an angle. To the AVERAGE straight person sure....
read what I wrote again... I don't know too many straight or gay boys....even guys who have no problem with gay sex, who've been around lots of peni, would still be uncomfortable with schmoes masturbating. perhaps that's one reason why escorting is generally looked down upon in the gay community.
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read what I wrote again... I don't know too many straight or gay boys....even guys who have no problem with gay sex, who've been around lots of peni, would still be uncomfortable with schmoes masturbating. perhaps that's one reason why escorting is generally looked down upon in the gay community.
You also must keep a safe distance. :)
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read what I wrote again... I don't know too many straight or gay boys....even guys who have no problem with gay sex, who've been around lots of peni, would still be uncomfortable with schmoes masturbating. perhaps that's one reason why escorting is generally looked down upon in the gay community
At first sure.... but it only takes once to cross that line....and it will become easier and easier each sucessive time. Add this fact with the narrcisism of your average bodybuilder....and I dont see this as being that far fetched. Will it ever be fufilling to that person...no of course not..... but it will be easy.
Why do you think a lot of female strippers stay caught in that lifestyle. They dont enjoy it. They do it beacuse its easy.....far easier then a real job.
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At first sure.... but it only takes once to cross that line....and it will become easier and easier each sucessive time. Add this fact with the narrcisism of your average bodybuilder....and I dont see this as being that far fetched. Will it ever be fufilling to that person...no of course not..... but it will be easy.
Why do you think a lot of female strippers stay caught in that lifestyle. They dont enjoy it. They do it beacuse its easy.....far easier then a real job.
M!
Many strippers have drug issues that drive lifestyle choices.
But that's straight sex. Even if it isn't... hot lesbians are sweet.
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read what I wrote again... I don't know too many straight or gay boys....even guys who have no problem with gay sex, who've been around lots of peni, would still be uncomfortable with schmoes masturbating. perhaps that's one reason why escorting is generally looked down upon in the gay community.
Hmm, yes and no. I see Timo’s point but I think Topskin69 is onto something. Gay or straight some guys are exhibitionists (as the pix below prove) and by the time you are posing on stage in a thong you have embraced your exhibitionist streak. Having done that, the leap from contest stage to a more private setting is less jarring than it might be for an average gay or straight person who is not used to showing themselves off to the rest of the world.
As a general rule, I think sex (and expressions of sex) are less stigmatized in gay life. I do not patronize sex clubs and bath houses, for example, but friends who do have provided me with colorful accounts of group sex, circle jerks, etc. between relative strangers in those venues. Is there a big difference between circle jerking with strangers and being in a room with a masturbating schmoe? I would say no.
Money on the table can get people past a lot of their anxieties. Add to the mix the perception that “every body’s doing it” and I imagine that it becomes easier and easier to go down this path.
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Many strippers have drug issues that drive lifestyle choices.
This is a good point. You dont think this applies to the bodybuilding community? Look how many people have been hooked on Nubain, other painkillers, X, not to mention the fact that one has to pay for large amounts of GH, and Steroids.
I dont care who you are....GH isnt cheap. Many of these factors weigh in on the decision of someone that goes down this road.
That being said.... IF we were to take a poll of average people both in the Straight, and GAy community, how many of them would feel comfortable slapping on some posing trunks and posing in front of a large group of (mostly) men.
My guess NOT THAT MANY. Once again....the leap is not nearly as far as we would like to believe.
M!
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I do not patronize sex clubs and bath houses, for example, but friends who do have provided me with colorful accounts of group sex, circle jerks, etc between relative strangers. Is there a difference between a circle jerking with strangers and being in a room with a masturbating schmoe?
yes, you usually only participate if you find some attraction towards the other guys.
as I've written before, all the guys I've meet over the years who made their money from escorting were either fucked up to begin with, or end up being fucked up in the head. unless you are very selective about your clients, you have to be really detached to be able to perform like that on a regular basis.
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Bay,
I've seen women at 26 weeks with smaller bellies than those two guys. :)
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yes, you usually only participate if you find some attraction towards the other guys.
That makes perfect sense, but with the schmoe the money "makes" the bodybuilder attracted. In other words, it makes him want to be there. In both the sex club circle jerk setting and the bodybuilder/schmoe setting, relative strangers are engaged in a sexual transaction/encounter.
I am no exhibitionist, but if some schmoe wanted to worship your bicep for $500 how many young, poor, gymrats (gay or straight) would say no?
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I am no exhibitionist, but if some schmoe wanted to worship your bicep for $500 how many young, poor, gymrats (gay or straight) would say no
I am not gay, but if some assclown wanted to pay me even $250 to worship my bicep....then sign me up! ... 8)
I just dont see the big deal in it....
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No.
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I am not gay, but if some assclown wanted to pay me even $250 to worship my bicep....then sign me up! ... 8)
I just dont see the big deal in it....
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i agree 1000%
you would be a SCHMUCK to turn down easy money like that
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what exacly do you mean by the word "worship'"?
if it's just touching the bicep with his hand, i'd say only a moron or some closet case homophobe wouldn't do it
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i agree 1000%
you would be a SCHMUCK to turn down easy money like that
$500 later and you end up with some schmoes johnson in your mouth or some place else.
All the while saying "I would be a SCHMUCK to turn down easy money". :)
Do you really think any of the guys doing G4P now are doing the same acts they started out with?
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what exacly do you mean by the word "worship'"?
if it's just touching the bicep with his hand, i'd say only a moron or some closet case homophobe wouldn't do it
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$500 later and you end up with some schmoes johnson in your mouth or some place else.
it could end up like that if you don't draw the line
I can't speak for no one else but for myself. If another person, wants to puff a cock, that is on them- they obviously have different limits than what I have
I can truly say that their is "a LINE" that I would never ever cross
but, back to the point of 250 bucks for muscle "worship".
If some schmoe offers me 250 bucks for a half hour session given that their is no contact whatsoever- then i still believe that i would be a schmuck to turn down that easy, non taxable money
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it could end up like that if you don't draw the line
I can't speak for no one else but for myself. If another person, wants to puff a cock, that is on them- they obviously have different limits than what I have
I can truly say that their is "a LINE" that I would never ever cross
but, back to the point of 250 bucks for muscle "worship".
If some schmoe offers me 250 bucks for a half hour session given that their is no contact whatsoever- then i still believe that i would be a schmuck to turn down that easy, non taxable money
johnny would you fvck a guy or be fvcked off a guy for $1m ?
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johnny would you fvck a guy or be fvcked off a guy for $1m ?
1 million tax free?
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it could end up like that if you don't draw the line
I can't speak for no one else but for myself. If another person, wants to puff a cock, that is on them- they obviously have different limits than what I have
I can truly say that their is "a LINE" that I would never ever cross
but, back to the point of 250 bucks for muscle "worship".
If some schmoe offers me 250 bucks for a half hour session given that their is no contact whatsoever- then i still believe that i would be a schmuck to turn down that easy, non taxable money
That 'line' might move if your personal circumstances change drastically. $500 (tax free) for an uncomfortable hour might seem a smarter move than a week's work after you've been in the game a while. :)
I'm not talking "Indecent Proposal" or some movie stuff, LOL! Only that people end up saying "WTF happened to me?" by degrees.
johnny would you fvck a guy or be fvcked off a guy for $1m ?
Tax free and cash?! He would.
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That 'line' might move if your personal circumstances change drastically. $500 (tax free) for an uncomfortable hour might seem a smarter move than a week's work after you've been in the game a while. :)
I'm not talking "Indecent Proposal" or some movie stuff, LOL! Only that people end up saying "WTF happened to me?" by degrees.
Tax free and cash?! He would.
your point is well taken about how it may start off as just innocent worship sessions then next thing you know it your involved in gay anal gangbangs. I know it is possible to stick to your limits no matter what the circumstances are (at least, in my case)
and I can honestly say that I wouldn't fuck a guy or get fucked by a guy for a million- again, i have a limit
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and I can honestly say that I wouldn't fuck a guy or get fucked by a guy for a million- again, i have a limit
would you fvck a goat or some other farm yard animal for $1m ?
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would you fvck a goat or some other farm yard animal for $1m ?
naw that's disgusting
see, i could have tried to be funny and said something like "is it a cute goat?" but seriously, I could never fuck a animal
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your point is well taken about how it may start off as just innocent worship sessions then next thing you know it your involved in gay anal gangbangs. I know it is possible to stick to your limits no matter what the circumstances are (at least, in my case)
and I can honestly say that I wouldn't fuck a guy or get fucked by a guy for a million- again, i have a limit
Some fat chick is auctioning off her virginity and has bids of over $3M. I have a pretty hard time believing the average johnnynoname would turn down a million bucks cash for 1/2 hour's work. Most of us would never be tempted so the discussion is moot.
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Some fat chick is auctioning off her virginity and has bids of over $3M. I have a pretty hard time believing the average johnnynoname would turn down a million bucks cash for 1/2 hour's work. Most of us would never be tempted so the discussion is moot.
would you fuck a guy/get fucked by a guy for 1 million tax free dollars?
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Its very easy to take a moral high ground when we are talking about something that will never happen to us, (no one is ever likely to offer us $1m for sex), but I assure you all that you ALL have a PRICE....and sadly it isnt as much as you would like to think. If someone really were to walk in to your house right now with several duffell bags of tax-free money...would would do whatever sexual act they wanted.
To quote vanilla ice... "I would lick my mom's ass for a million dollars." Im sure you all would too.
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everybody has a price AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
(http://www.whosdatedwho.com/pictures/X/0/X0F8L2.jpg)
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well the standard straight guy would fvck the ugliest girl for 1m no question.
the standard gay guy would fvck the ugliest guy for 1m no question.
the standard bi guy would fvck the ugliest girl/guy for 1m.
is it easier to fvck a farm yard animal for $1m than the same sex?
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would you fuck a guy/get fucked by a guy for 1 million tax free dollars?
I don't know if a million dollars would change my life enough to deal with the mental trauma. :)
That being said... the average person has probably gone through ickier things for a lot less money.
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I don't know if a million dollars would change my life enough to deal with the mental trauma. :)
That being said... the average person has probably gone through ickier things for a lot less money.
well once my male doctor put his fingers up my ass to check for prostate enlargement - i was mortified when he told me to drop them :-X
to make it worse he told me to try relax :-X
i felt like i had been raped/vialated - and went straight home to shower.
thinking back, i would do it again for $1m
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well once my male doctor put his fingers up my ass to check for prostate enlargement - i was mortified when he told me to drop them :-X
to make it worse he told me to try relax :-X
i felt like i had been raped/vialated - and went straight home to shower.
thinking back, i would do it again for $1m
;D
And he charged you, LOL!
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well once my male doctor put his fingers up my ass to check for prostate enlargement - i was mortified when he told me to drop them :-X
to make it worse he told me to try relax :-X
i felt like i had been raped/vialated - and went straight home to shower.
thinking back, i would do it again for $1m
;D
a girl (yes, it was a girl) did that prostate thing to me once and I swear it was amazing
yeah, i said it
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a girl (yes, it was a girl) did that prostate thing to me once and I swear it was amazing
yeah, i said it
i got no pleasure from it at all from the doc - however i do enjoy a nice rim job from a girl now and again - never had my ass poked by a girl, so i don't know if i would enjoy it. ???
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it could end up like that if you don't draw the line
I can't speak for no one else but for myself. If another person, wants to puff a cock, that is on them- they obviously have different limits than what I have
I can truly say that their is "a LINE" that I would never ever cross
but, back to the point of 250 bucks for muscle "worship".
If some schmoe offers me 250 bucks for a half hour session given that their is no contact whatsoever- then i still believe that i would be a schmuck to turn down that easy, non taxable money
If it was just a hit or miss feel and grab for quick cash nobody would give a rats ass. But the web sites and having it as "side buiness" is something the IFBB can't have.
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Pro BB is a Joke can you imagine F1 drivers having to do G4Pay because they don't make enough money competing.These guys make Nothing in BB, don't believe what Chick tells you most are Broke. :'(
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And he charged you, LOL!
;D :(
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a girl (yes, it was a girl) did that prostate thing to me once and I swear it was amazing
yeah, i said it
Imagine how good a million dollars would have felt after, LOL!
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how many men's Pro BB are there currently in good standing? and then you have the thousands who invest time and $ and still never make it.
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Bodybuilding and crazy antics/acts go hand in hand. I could care less what other people do for money. It's their life, not mine!
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Don’t many of the bodybuilders (especially those who eventually find themselves in G4P situations) have similar personality traits? Don’t many feed on the attention? Aren’t most bodybuilders narrsisstic?
Johnnynoname may have been right all along
is there something wrong with my train of thought that I find that the whole G4P thing just goes hand in hand with pro bb'ing.
It all seems to fit together. :-\
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Ever notice how some bodybuilders like to brag about how many chicks they bag to everyone who will listen?
It's the same old scenario, over and over again. These guys are very confused on many different levels.
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what a f*cked up thread
read Beefys posts
next.........
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well once my male doctor put his fingers up my ass to check for prostate enlargement - i was mortified when he told me to drop them :-X
to make it worse he told me to try relax :-X
i felt like i had been raped/vialated - and went straight home to shower.
thinking back, i would do it again for $1m
;D
Urologists use ultrasound today.
Did he tell you he could use ultrasound too but he likes to be "thorough"?
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If you feel that way, why are you reading and posting in this thread? On page 3 no less? ??? Presumably, you have better things to do with your time. At the very least, you have more than 500 other threads to choose from... yet here you are.
I have absolutely no problem with you starting these threads. I just think you should follow through and do your part of disclosing the G4P.
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The other day, Arvilla said he didn’t know about the G4P side (we can disagree on how big or small that side is) of bodybuilding until he came to getbig and other message boards. I found this comment interesting coming from someone who has been involved in the sport for so many years.
When did the rest of you clue in to the G4P side? How many of you are like Arvilla and didn’t know what was going on until you came to getbig or a similar board? With sites like musclegallery.com accessible with just a mouse click it’s impossible to deny that at least posing is going on. When did you realize there was a schmoe side to pro bodybuilding?
None of us can un-know what we now know, but do you think you were better off before you knew?
Simple equation: guys who need money to buy drugs so that they can compete+ "sport"competition where there is very little to no money at all+ "natural" appeal to a gay audience which has money+ the "Ben and Joe Weider" variable= G4P.
How can it be very different than what it is?
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The other day, Arvilla said he didn’t know about the G4P side (we can disagree on how big or small that side is) of bodybuilding until he came to getbig and other message boards. I found this comment interesting coming from someone who has been involved in the sport for so many years.
When did the rest of you clue in to the G4P side? How many of you are like Arvilla and didn’t know what was going on until you came to getbig or a similar board? With sites like musclegallery.com accessible with just a mouse click it’s impossible to deny that at least posing is going on. When did you realize there was a schmoe side to pro bodybuilding?
None of us can un-know what we now know, but do you think you were better off before you knew?
Dude, stop with the endless gay threads. Gay. Gay. Gay. Thread after thread about how such thing in bodybuilding is gay, or how this and such guy is gay, or how such politician was caught performing gay acts, or how this sports heroes came out, etcetera, etcetera ad nauseum. It is amazing how egocentric gay guys are. Everything revolves around their homosexuality to them. The World might be falling apart - as it indeed is -, and still all you care about is talking how this guy has a fat dick, or how that other guy has a bubble butt, or show yet this other guy was caught doing gay-for-pay. The only time I recall you talking about something was when you discussed ROTS when it was about to out onscreen, and that was 3 years ago. Get out of your gay bubble and start living in the grander world.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Dude, stop with the endless gay threads. Gay. Gay. Gay. Thread after thread about how such thing in bodybuilding is gay, or how this and such guy is gay, or how such politician was caught performing gay acts, or how this sports heroes came out, etcetera, etcetera ad nauseum. It is amazing how egocentric gay guys are. Everything revolves around their homosexuality to them. The World might be falling apart - as it indeed is -, and still all you care about is talking how this guy has a fat dick, or how that other guy has a bubble butt, or show yet this other guy was caught doing gay-for-pay. The only time I recall you talking about something was when you discussed ROTS when it was about to out onscreen, and that was 3 years ago. Get out of your gay bubble and start living in the grander world.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
He's sort of a one trick pony.
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Riiiiggghhht....
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I have absolutely no problem with you starting these threads. I just think you should follow through and do your part of disclosing the G4P.
More than once, you have articulated your "problem" with my starting "these threads" so there is no point in disavowing it now. If you believe my threads are misguided--for whatever reason--once again, I invite you to turn your attention elsewhere; you have plenty of other threads to choose from.
For those who are interested in the naming of names, BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT has provided plenty of that.
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Most of your threads are these threads, LOL!
Don't you have any non-gay stuff going on or are you just one dimensional as a person?
There's nothing wrong with being gay but WTF? Everything in the world doesn't have to relate to a person's sexuality unless they're insecure about it.
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Dude, stop with the endless gay threads. Gay. Gay. Gay. Thread after thread about how such thing in bodybuilding is gay, or how this and such guy is gay, or how such politician was caught performing gay acts, or how this sports heroes came out, etcetera, etcetera ad nauseum. It is amazing how egocentric gay guys are. Everything revolves around their homosexuality to them. The World might be falling apart - as it indeed is -, and still all you care about is talking how this guy has a fat dick, or how that other guy has a bubble butt, or show yet this other guy was caught doing gay-for-pay. The only time I recall you talking about something was when you discussed ROTS when it was about to out onscreen, and that was 3 years ago. Get out of your gay bubble and start living in the grander world.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
The world may be falling apart... and with > 500 other threads to choose from, you are reading and posting on the 5th page of one of those gay threads you say you can't stand. Why?
"Your honor I have no further questions for this witness." ::)
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Most of your threads are these threads, LOL!
Don't you have any non-gay stuff going on or are you just one dimensional as a person?
There's nothing wrong with being gay but WTF? Everything in the world doesn't have to relate to a person's sexuality unless they're insecure about it.
Time for a reality check:
So far, you have posted in this thread more than 20 times (not even I have posted that much) so there is no point in pretending as if there is some other subject you would prefer to be discussing; it would appear that you are even more interested in this topic than I am. May I suggest that you take your foot out of your mouth? Lather. Rinse. And repeat as necessary. :-[
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Time for a reality check:
So far, you have posted in this thread more than 20 times (not even I have posted that much) so there is no point in pretending as if there is some other subject you would prefer to be discussing; it would appear that you are even more interested in this topic than I am. May I suggest that you take your foot out of your mouth? Lather. Rinse. And repeat as necessary. :-[
G4P is a part of the industry and will be that way forever.
Most of your posts are homosexual in nature. I post about politics, beer, bitches, training, injury, etc... I can only recall seeing one recent post from you that wasn't about gayness.
I don't have any problem with homosexuals but do find fags boorish and myopic. Same as anyone else who must be addresses primarily through a particular perspective instead of as a person first.
You're more or less the stereotypical gay, obsessed with all things gay and trying to make the world comply by pointing out homosexuality everywhere to not feel so out of place. A confident person that is educated should have more going on in their brain than concentrating on their sexual identity all day.
There is nothing wrong or special about being gay. Get over yourself. :P
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Yet again this same fag is beating his same old fag drum and trying to claim that everyone is gay.
if u attack him, you're gay
you disagree, you're gay
what a tired old homo. 40 years old black dude who is too old to get any ass so he spends his life trying tell everyone on a bodybuilding they're gay too. lol.
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Time for a reality check:
So far, you have posted in this thread more than 20 times (not even I have posted that much) so there is no point in pretending as if there is some other subject you would prefer to be discussing; it would appear that you are even more interested in this topic than I am. May I suggest that you take your foot out of your mouth? Lather. Rinse. And repeat as necessary. :-[
Bah ha ha ha ha Doom is amused.
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Bah ha ha ha ha Doom is amused.
Does Latravia have gays?
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The world may be falling apart... and with > 500 other threads to choose from, you are reading and posting on the 5th page of one of those gay threads you say you can't stand. Why?
"Your honor I have no further questions for this witness."
This is your standard answer to anyone who reads any of your theads and criticizes it. What am I doing reading your thread? What am I doing reading any thread on Getbig? Reading a thread about how gay for pay is pervasive in bodybuilding doesen't make me gay, in the same way that someone reading an article in a newspaper about a senator being caught engaging in gay sex at a public bathroom doesen't make that person gay. It's called general interest and curiosity.
The thing is that all your threads revolve around homosexuality. Every time I log into Getbig and see list of threads on the Gossip&opinions board, if there is a thread by BayGBM among them, it is certainly a homosexuality thread. I don't even need to actually open the thread, because the title is already uber gay. Seriously, dude, why don't you expand your horizons and start discussing other things besides homosexuality? You are gay. We get it. I personally couldn't care less about yours or any other person's sexual orientation, since everyone goes to bed with whoever they wish. If a pro bodybuilder wants to enter the office of a rich 80 year-old pederast dressed as ice cream with a popsickle sticked up his ass, that he's business.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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bay, to be fair your being a bit of a cock tease in this thread ;D
you have hinted that you know pro bodybuilders who have actively sought 'sponsors', then when pushed for even a hint you clam up.
why bother in the first place.
your like a tease in a club, she flirts, talks dirty about what she will do to you, and lets your imagination run wild, then you get her home, pull out the lube, chains and the strapon and she goes cold :-\
at least give us some clues as to who you are talking about.
white or black?
with girlfriend/wife or single
mass monster or aesthetic
top 5 material or above top 5?
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bay, to be fair your being a bit of a cock tease in this thread ;D
you have hinted that you know pro bodybuilders who have actively sought 'sponsors', then when pushed for even a hint you clam up.
why bother in the first place.
your like a tease in a club, she flirts, talks dirty about what she will do to you, and lets your imagination run wild, then you get her home, pull out the lube, chains and the strapon and she goes cold :-\
at least give us some clues as to who you are talking about.
white or black?
with girlfriend/wife or single
mass monster or aesthetic
top 5 material or above top 5?
Don't encourage her. :)
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bay, to be fair your being a bit of a cock tease in this thread ;D
you have hinted that you know pro bodybuilders who have actively sought 'sponsors', then when pushed for even a hint you clam up.
why bother in the first place.
From my perspective, the point of observing that some bodybuilders have actively sought sponsors (and found them) is not to out them, rather it is to underscore that this activity is going all around fans of the sport. It is one thing for someone like Arvilla to say he didn’t know it was happening and quite another for others to deny it is happening or insist that it is a “rare” occurrence. As gordiano said
... this whole industry . . . It's a huge bag of shit. Everyone within it, just winks their eye at each other, and pretend nothing is going on.
They continue with this pretense even when there are weblinks showing that so & so is or has been available for rent.
Review his threads; BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT has provided you with plenty of names to sate your appetite. If you want more, you can do the research yourself. Again, I am not in the outing business.
By the way, I don’t mind people attacking me. Unlike some people here, I’m very good at ignoring threads, posts, and people that do not interest me. I do however find it amusing that—no matter the forum--guys like suckmymuscle and drkaje consistently show up in the gay threads that they ostensibly find so objectionable, even to the point of visiting and posting in the threads more often than I do. :D
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From my perspective, the point of observing that some bodybuilders have actively sought sponsors (and found them) is not to out them, rather it is to underscore that this activity is going all around fans of the sport. It is one thing for someone like Arvilla to say he didn’t know it was happening and quite another for others to deny it is happening or insist that it is a “rare” occurrence. As gordiano said
They continue with this pretense even when there are weblinks showing that so & so is or has been available for rent.
Review his threads; BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT has provided you with plenty of names to sate your appetite. If you want more, you can do the research yourself. Again, I am not in the outing business.
By the way, I don’t mind people attacking me. Unlike some people here, I’m very good at ignoring threads, posts, and people that do not interest me. I do however find it amusing that—no matter the forum--guys like suckmymuscle and drkaje consistently show up in the gay threads that they ostensibly find so objectionable, even to the point of visiting and posting in the threads more often than I do. :D
No need to get defensive. Pointing out the obvious (you rarely post non gay stuff) isn't an attack, merely the truth. Anyone else would have pointed out some of their posts unrelated to homosexuality but since you can't it's easier to pretend you're being attacked. It's laughable that you'd try pulling undergrad debate tactics and not expect to be called out. I've made similar observations in the past and you couldn't respond articulate a response then, no good response now isn't a surprise at all.
I'm sure you'll have something 'clever' to say like "ignore my posts because they're all gay" or "You must be gay for reading gay posts" or probably something about my wanting to do G4P, LOL! We'll certainly all think you're really, really.... really smart and be impressed so don't bother unless there's actually a real answer why you can't post or add anything to GetBig that isn't related to homosexuality.
No answer would be better than the same old "I'm rubber and you're glue", LOL!
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In Bay's defense, I had a fairly long debate with him in which I was bitching about the state of the American educational system K-college (and I was correct) and his basic position was that it's the individual's job to deal with it (and he was also correct). He didn't mention teh gay once.
Panda has a point tho Bay. A very teasing tale you've told in this thread.
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In Bay's defense, I had a fairly long debate with him in which I was bitching about the state of the American educational system K-college (and I was correct) and his basic position was that it's the individual's job to deal with it (and he was also correct). He didn't mention teh gay once.
Panda has a point tho Bay. A very teasing tale you've told in this thread.
That and the back injury post makes 2!!!! :)
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That and the back injury post makes 2!!!! :)
Hmmm, but what caused the 'back' injury? :D
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Look at which 3 are in the photo, I bet Milos is a real PIMP!!
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come on baygbm, expose the g4p superstar names. beefyheavyweight style. that would be the shit
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Most people knew taht shit went on. But it was kind of like you didn't mention it. Its like having a gay cousin. Everybody knows he's gay, but you choose to ignore it
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Nasser has done G4P. he enjoyed it so much, he went back and returned the money.
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Nasser has done G4P. he enjoyed it so much, he started his own business.
Fixed.
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The only board I read before coming here was bb.com and there's no mention of G4P over there. I'm glad I found out about it. Not too surprised it exists except for the more extreme stuff (Kai Green). Being straight I can't say I'm a fan but it sure makes the "sport" more interesting.
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I dont see what is "gay" about this picture? Is there something I'm missing?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=242927.0;attach=283073;image)
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I dont see what is "gay" about this picture? Is there something I'm missing?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=242927.0;attach=283073;image)
A brain. :D
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A brain. :D
Typical uneducated response since there is nothing actually gay with that picture that you can describe.
Three bodybuilders showing their physique to an exec of the bodybuilding federation - yup real gay ::)
If he was massaging or kissing or something along those lines, then you could say its gay.
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Typical uneducated response since there is nothing actually gay with that picture that you can describe.
Three bodybuilders showing their physique to an exec of the bodybuilding federation - yup real gay ::)
If he was massaging or kissing or something along those lines, then you could say its gay.
OHHH SHTTOPP!! Don't get so defensive you highly educated 'Mo (Homo). Getting any bonus cheques from Ron?
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For those of you who still don't get it, here is a lesson on how to see what is right in front of you.
The picture is reply #47
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=229716.msg3233404#msg3233404
the question is reply #55
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=229716.msg3233537#msg3233537
the answer is reply #57
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=229716.msg3233601#msg3233601
After you look at those posts, review the pic of Weider in his office again... The dots are not that hard to connect. ::)
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For those of you who still don't get it, here is a lesson on how to see what is right in front of you.
The picture is reply #47
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=229716.msg3233404#msg3233404
the question is reply #55
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=229716.msg3233537#msg3233537
the answer is reply #57
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=229716.msg3233601#msg3233601
After you look at those posts, review the pic of Weider in his office again... The dots are not that hard to connect. ::)
Is it just a coincidence that you being gay happen to think that not only the Weider office pic but practically anything to do with bodybuilding is gay? FFS you said even the muscle-time website pictures are somehow G4P?! ::)
There is no similarity between the Yates pic you linked vs. the Weider office pic. Yates is being disguised as some type of warrior which some gays probably get off on, but the Weider office pic simply has 3 bodybuilders with their shirts off.
Yes, we get it. You are gay. Now stop pretending that everyone and everything around you is gay as well.
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Why would three bodybuilders go to the Weider offices and take off their shirts? ::)
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Why would three bodybuilders go to the Weider offices and take off their shirts? ::)
So if we weren't there to know the exact reason then it must be homosexual? ::)
Is it ridiculous to assume that they may have been showing their condition for an upcoming contest or discussing pointers on posing?
I'm not even a fan of any of those guys so I shouldn't even care, I just find it annoying when BayGBM tries to push the everything-in-bodybuilding-is-gay agenda down everyone's throat or even when straight guys think anything to do with the "sport" is gay. If you're straight and you think bodybuilding is that gay then why post here?
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>There is no similarity between the Yates pic you linked vs. the Weider office pic.
Of course there is. The similarity is you (or someone like you) saw the pic and said “I don’t get it (the gay overtones in this pic) . . . please explain.”
>I just find it annoying when BayGBM tries to push the everything-in-bodybuilding-is-gay agenda down everyone's throat
There are worse things I could push down your throat. ;D
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Of course there is. The similarity is you (or someone like you) saw the pic and said “I don’t get it (the gay overtones in this pic) . . . please explain.”
Yes, but the difference is that the gay overtone was easily explained in the Yates pic, yet I have still not gotten any explanation as to what is gay in the Weider pic, even though I directly asked more than once.
You guys think that just because three bodybuilders have their shirts off for a picture in the Weider office that it must have been proceeded by a fuckfest LOL. I've seen pics of Joe with Arnold and others wearing nothing but posing trunks, does that mean there was G4P happening there too? ::)
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I just find it annoying when BayGBM tries to push the everything-in-bodybuilding-is-gay agenda down everyone's throat or even when straight guys think anything to do with the "sport" is gay.
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(is that the way the kids do it these days?)
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I've seen pics of Joe with Arnold and others wearing nothing but posing trunks, does that mean there was G4P happening there too? ::)
well, that might be a bad example
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I was better off without all the constant references by BayGBM and crew that all of GetBig are closet homos, yes.
When it becomes part of the contest proceedings to suck a schmoe off on stage, then there might be a problem, but as for G4P, it's just part of the physique business.
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Yes, but the difference is that the gay overtone was easily explained in the Yates pic, yet I have still not gotten any explanation as to what is gay in the Weider pic, even though I directly asked more than once.
You guys think that just because three bodybuilders have their shirts off for a picture in the Weider office that it must have been proceeded by a fuckfest LOL. I've seen pics of Joe with Arnold and others wearing nothing but posing trunks, does that mean there was G4P happening there too? ::)
Don't waste time asking him simple, direct questions.
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I was better off without all the constant references by BayGBM and crew that all of GetBig are closet homos, yes.
When it becomes part of the contest proceedings to suck a schmoe off on stage, then there might be a problem, but as for G4P, it's just part of the physique business.
It's only gay if you want it to be gay. :D
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In Bay's defense, I had a fairly long debate with him in which I was bitching about the state of the American educational system K-college (and I was correct) and his basic position was that it's the individual's job to deal with it (and he was also correct). He didn't mention teh gay once.
Thanks for pointing that out. As you know, I have started or posted in many threads that have nothing to do with gay-lore including ones on education, religion, genetics, cloning, politics, government, comic books, movies, personal grooming, and a host of others. But my critics aren’t reading those threads because that is not what they are interested in. They have consistently chosen to read and reply in these “offensive” gay threads because—for whatever reason-- that is where their interests lie.
Notice, by the way, there are plenty of getbiggers who never show up in these gay threads; it is almost always the usual suspects. You can draw your own conclusions as to why that is. ;)
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have consistently chosen to read and reply in these “offensive” gay threads because—for whatever reason-- that is where their interests lie.
The "reason" is annoyance. Logging on getbig and seeing another "gay" thread started by BayGBM...so I clicked and I saw a picture of three pro bodybuilders in Weider's office with their shirts off and skipped over the several pages and simply posted the pic questioning what makes it gay - to which you still have not been able to provide an adequate response to.
Don't flatter yourself with the fact that you get annoyed replies on your gay threads. If Vince Goodrum starts a thread on his stellar condition he would likely get many replies too.
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"Clonning" a pet isn't gay?
The "reason" is annoyance. Logging on getbig and seeing another "gay" thread started by BayGBM...so I clicked and I saw a picture of three pro bodybuilders in Weider's office with their shirts off and skipped over the several pages and simply posted the pic questioning what makes it gay - to which you still have not been able to provide an adequate response to.
Don't flatter yourself with the fact that you get annoyed replies on your gay threads. If Vince Goodrum starts a thread on his stellar condition he would likely get many replies too.
The best defense is a good offense. :)
Regular posts, in regular threads wouldn't give her any attention. A few of them thrive on attention and can't even think straight, LOL!
Anyways, I'm going to take a break from being bored by this attention whore until people get to exercise free speech on Proposition 8.
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BayGBM accuses us of being gay for reading and posting in his thread. However, what he ignores is that it's not required to actually open his threads to know it's about a gay issue, because the very title of the thread already implies it is gay related.
And I assure, you, Bay, that I don't usually read your threads. I never opened any of your multiple gay threads at the Sexy Board, exactly because I know what's in there. It just so happens that the topic of gay4pay in bodybuilding interests me, in the same way that it interests most other members of this board, and in the same way that heterosexual America was very interested in reading about senator Larry Craig being caught haveing gay sex in a public bathroom. That is called curiosity; it is Human nature.
Since I opened this thread and read it, and since I don't usually open your threads, I took the opportunity to give you a wake up call for you to stop being so obsessed with gayness and to actually start discussing other topics. If you have actually talked about other things other than homosexuality, then I am sorry but it just so happens that every thread from you that I see has a gay title, so I assumed they are all gay related. So you have two out of hundreds of threads you've started that is not related to homosexuality? Nice.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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BayGBM accuses us of being gay for reading and posting in his thread. However, what he ignores is that it's not required to actually open his threads to know it's about a gay issue, because the very title of the thread already implies it is gay related.
And I assure, you, Bay, that I don't usually read your threads. I never opened any of your multiple gay threads at the Sexy Board, exactly becuse I know what's in there. It just so happens that the topic of gay4pay in bodybuilding interests me, in the same way that it interests most other memebers of this board, and in the same way that heterosexual America was very interested in reading about senator Larry Craig being caught haveing gay sex in a public bathroom. That is called curiosity; it is Human nature.
Since I opened this thread and read it, and since I don't usually open your threads, I took the opportunity to give you a wake up call for you to stop being so obsessed with gayness and to actually start discussing other topics. If you have actually talked about other things other than homosexuality, then I am sorry but it just so happens that every thread from you that I see has a gay title, so I assumed they are all gay related. So you have two out of hundreds of threads you've started that is not related to homosexuality? Nice.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
You are probably in denial about being gay yourself. :)
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You are probably in denial about being gay yourself. :)
Oh, but according to Bay's theories that would apply to you as well, since you are posting in one of his threads.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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If you do or say any shit Bay don't like, you're gay.
HTH ;D
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If you do or say any shit Bay don't like, you're gay.
HTH ;D
Yeah, that pretty much sums it up.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I am surprised Arvilla had no idea about G4P in Massachusetts. I believe we trained at the same gyms and traveled in the same circles.
I saw G4P all over Boston. The first time was in 1991 at World's Gym in Somerville, MA. A national level competitor was on the pay phone describing his body and what he would/would not do (Mike you have mentioned this guy many times).
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why shouldnt they take money from desperate and sad fags? i would gladly sell my shit stained underwaer or pose for some pathetic and lonely queer looking to blow his stash before teh hiv catches him
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I am surprised Arvilla had no idea about G4P in Massachusetts. I believe we trained at the same gyms and traveled in the same circles.
I saw G4P all over Boston. The first time was in 1991 at World's Gym in Somerville, MA. A national level competitor was on the pay phone describing his body and what he would/would not do (Mike you have mentioned this guy many times).
Maybe Mike was 'offseason' or 'bulking' back then and wasn't asked. :)
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why shouldnt they take money from desperate and sad fags? i would gladly sell my shit stained underwaer or pose for some pathetic and lonely queer looking to blow his stash before teh hiv catches him
HAHA oh brother
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(http://www.bgogemini.org/bg/datas/users/2-512px-gay_couple_togetherness_in_bed_02.jpg)
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As you know, I have started or posted in many threads that have nothing to do with gay-lore including ones on education, religion, genetics, cloning, politics, government, comic books, movies, personal grooming, and a host of others. But my critics aren’t reading those threads because that is not what they are interested in. They have consistently chosen to read and reply in these “offensive” gay threads because—for whatever reason-- that is where their interests lie.
Ignorant statement. Alot of us simply choose not to bother with discussing things that don't relate to training or the sport of bodybuilding on GetBig.
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Thanks for pointing that out. As you know, I have started or posted in many threads that have nothing to do with gay-lore including ones on education, religion, genetics, cloning, politics, government, comic books, movies, personal grooming, and a host of others. But my critics aren’t reading those threads because that is not what they are interested in. They have consistently chosen to read and reply in these “offensive” gay threads because—for whatever reason-- that is where their interests lie.
Notice, by the way, there are plenty of getbiggers who never show up in these gay threads; it is almost always the usual suspects. You can draw your own conclusions as to why that is. ;)
Just don't read anything into it stud. ;D
I guess you do post about gay stuff pretty frequently, but no more frequently than some straight guys about their t&a. There's many a "would you hit it" thread every week... although you never really know what you're going to find in there. If you think about gay sex as much as straights think about straight sex, that's a lot of thinking about sex!
Still think you should spill the beans. Help the guy be gay and proud.
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G4P is a part of the industry and will be that way forever.
Most of your posts are homosexual in nature. I post about politics, beer, bitches, training, injury, etc... I can only recall seeing one recent post from you that wasn't about gayness.
I don't have any problem with homosexuals but do find fags boorish and myopic. Same as anyone else who must be addresses primarily through a particular perspective instead of as a person first.
You're more or less the stereotypical gay, obsessed with all things gay and trying to make the world comply by pointing out homosexuality everywhere to not feel so out of place. A confident person that is educated should have more going on in their brain than concentrating on their sexual identity all day.
There is nothing wrong or special about being gay. Get over yourself. :P
very good post drkaje, you are right there are some gay people that cannot see the world outside their own self centered, self absorbed gay obsessed lives. They have sex on the brain and can hardly relate to any person without a sexual agenda, they objectify men and see them as opportunities for sexual gratification, they feel they are the sexual elite and know more about other peoples sexuality especially straights, than the people know themselves. They may have money, degrees etc. but their mental life is shallow and driven by sexual compulsion. They usual are very promiscuous burning out eventualy on sex and needing other thrills to get them off, one of their favorites is shocking and titilating straight people with tales of gay sex, and innuendos and accusations of straight men having sex with gay men, their biggest fantasy. It is totaly delusional but it gratifies them and makes them feel superior and that is really all that matters to them. They are elitists and although they need straight peoples acceptance of their behavior to normalize it, they believe they are better and more worldly than straight people. The gratification they get by reporting alleged sex between gay men and straight men and starting rumours and innuendo of g4pay really comes from hatred and vindictiveness towards straight men.
It seems today that straight men, particularly bb's, are being socialy repressed the same way gays, women and blacks were treated many years ago. For some people they expect a straight man, and especially white straight men, to always act in some dry stoic controlled masculine way otherwise they are accused of being weak, or soft, or feminine and not in control and may easily leap to doing something gay...Its like they want men and especially white men to always be the big man in charge, be the master, otherwise their integrity, strength and sexuality can all come into question and these bigoted few relish the opportunities to hurt the reputations of these men...It is fear and fantasy combined resulting in a hateful form of bigotry and repression that is perpetrated by bitter feminists and vindictive queers...The former want to see men as all bullies, ogres or dolts and the latter want to see them as all secretly wanting gay sex. Is it some form of payback for past repression? I dont know but whatever it is, it is hurtful to men and bad for society.
because of this expressed hatred, straight men and especially bodybuilders cannot act in any creative, expressive or emotional way or else there is some misguided fool accusing them of doing doing g4p. They cannot have gay friends or hang around gay people. They cant even wear clothes that were once icons of masculinity...denim, work boots, leather, hunting gear, carpentry gear, fishing gear, wife beaters, moustaches and beards....All of these styles existed long before any gay pride dance. I feel bad for some straight guy that cant wear a pair of leather chaps to protect himself while riding his motorcycle without some queer accusing him of looking for g4p, or some guy cant wear a pair of workboots and a tank top to do some yard work without some schmoe saying he is gay curious, or worse yet some poor guy cant even wear his uniform for his blue collar job without accused of dressing too gay...or some poor bodybuilder cannot even pose for an artistic, or sexy picture without people wondering how far a leap before he does g4p or gay porn...... It is getting ridiculous and it is hateful repression.
I hope the guys on this board take back their masculinity from the feminists and elitist queers and stop buying into their bullshit. Be proud of your masculinity and physical masculine characteristics. Wear whatever clothes you see fit that makes you feel hyper masculine and good about yourself, Pose for any picture in any manner you want , and show off you body to anyone you please without the fear and intimidation from elitist gays wanting to impose their hateful fantasy on you.
So dkjea you are right, some gays are myopic and boring and I will ad that some are also vindictive, bigoted and hateful towards straight men.
I apologize for my spelling and grammer, but this topic is getting so old.
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very good post drkaje, you are right there are some gay people that cannot see the world outside their own self centered, self absorbed gay obsessed lives. They have sex on the brain and can hardly relate to any person without a sexual agenda, they objectify men and see them as opportunities for sexual gratification, they feel they are the sexual elite and know more about other peoples sexuality especially straights, than the people know themselves. They may have money, degrees etc. but their mental life is shallow and driven by sexual compulsion. They usual are very promiscuous burning out eventualy on sex and needing other thrills to get them off, one of their favorites is shocking and titilating straight people with tales of gay sex, and innuendos and accusations of straight men having sex with gay men, their biggest fantasy. It is totaly delusional but it gratifies them and makes them feel superior and that is really all that matters to them. They are elitists and although they need straight peoples acceptance of their behavior to normalize it, they believe they are better and more worldly than straight people. The gratification they get by reporting alleged sex between gay men and straight men and starting rumours and innuendo of g4pay really comes from hatred and vindictiveness towards straight men.
It seems today that straight men, particularly bb's, are being socialy repressed the same way gays, women and blacks were treated many years ago. For some people they expect a straight man, and especially white straight men, to always act in some dry stoic controlled masculine way otherwise they are accused of being weak, or soft, or feminine and not in control and may easily leap to doing something gay...Its like they want men and especially white men to always be the big man in charge, be the master, otherwise their integrity, strength and sexuality can all come into question and these bigoted few relish the opportunities to hurt the reputations of these men...It is fear and fantasy combined resulting in a hateful form of bigotry and repression that is perpetrated by bitter feminists and vindictive queers...The former want to see men as all bullies, ogres or dolts and the latter want to see them as all secretly wanting gay sex. Is it some form of payback for past repression? I dont know but whatever it is, it is hurtful to men and bad for society.
because of this expressed hatred, straight men and especially bodybuilders cannot act in any creative, expressive or emotional way or else there is some misguided fool accusing them of doing doing g4p. They cannot have gay friends or hang around gay people. They cant even wear clothes that were once icons of masculinity...denim, work boots, leather, hunting gear, carpentry gear, fishing gear, wife beaters, moustaches and beards....All of these styles existed long before any gay pride dance. I feel bad for some straight guy that cant wear a pair of leather chaps to protect himself while riding his motorcycle without some queer accusing him of looking for g4p, or some guy cant wear a pair of workboots and a tank top to do some yard work without some schmoe saying he is gay curious, or worse yet some poor guy cant even wear his uniform for his blue collar job without accused of dressing too gay...or some poor bodybuilder cannot even pose for an artistic, or sexy picture without people wondering how far a leap before he does g4p or gay porn...... It is getting ridiculous and it is hateful repression.
I hope the guys on this board take back their masculinity from the feminists and elitist queers and stop buying into their bullshit. Be proud of your masculinity and physical masculine characteristics. Wear whatever clothes you see fit that makes you feel hyper masculine and good about yourself, Pose for any picture in any manner you want , and show off you body to anyone you please without the fear and intimidation from elitist gays wanting to impose their hateful fantasy on you.
So dkjea you are right, some gays are myopic and boring and I will ad that some are also vindictive, bigoted and hateful towards straight men.
I apologize for my spelling and grammer, but this topic is getting so old.
X2 On agreement with drkaje...
I tryed pointing it out to Bay in a less suttle way but the point remains the same..
Gays like yourself and Tim who contribute so much to this board without waving the "fagdom" in your face is far more apreciated than Bays constant sexual enuendos..
You are gay and I dont care but guys like Bay I find quite sick..
You have my respect mate ;)
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Actually many things are still hidden.
They dont advertise that much.
If you want to book a session with Cormier it is very
difficult to aproach him, when he is in a bad mood.
There should be some booking agency for all the pros
and non pros, it would make things
much easier and normalize the price also.
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Actually many things are still hidden.
They dont advertise that much.
If you want to book a session with Cormier it is very
difficult to aproach him, when he is in a bad mood.
There should be some booking agency for all the pros
and non pros, it would make things
much easier and normalize the price also.
How much did the session cost you?
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Lol that's one cat out of the bag.
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X2 On agreement with drkaje...
I tryed pointing it out to Bay in a less suttle way but the point remains the same..
Gays like yourself and Tim who contribute so much to this board without waving the "fagdom" in your face is far more apreciated than Bays constant sexual enuendos..
You are gay and I dont care but guys like Bay I find quite sick..
You have my respect mate ;)
thanks dude, I dont dislike bay he seems smart on a lot of issues we just disagree on this one....But there are some in our community that cannot see outside their little world and relish flaunting and 'exposing' it to straights. Andrew Sullivan has tried to criticize gays for it but took a lot of heat and called homophobic, as some will probably call me.
Also this g4p thing is really not gay or straight at all, as one person pointed out earlier in the thread it is mostly exhibitionsim and performance and ego satisfaction, nothing wrong with that...on the other side, prostitution, it is just immoral behavior, not straight or gay behavior.
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thanks dude, I dont dislike bay he seems smart on a lot of issues we just disagree on this one....But there are some in our community that cannot see outside their little world and relish flaunting and 'exposing' it to straights. Andrew Sullivan has tried to criticize gays for it but took a lot of heat and called homophobic, as some will probably call me.
Also this g4p thing is really not gay or straight at all, as one person pointed out earlier in the thread it is mostly exhibitionsim and performance and ego satisfaction, nothing wrong with that...on the other side, prostitution, it is just immoral behavior, not straight or gay behavior.
Didn't even know you were gay, LOL!
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Didn't even know you were gay, LOL!
haha, i used to put something in my avatar/signature just so i didnt have to keep explaining it...ill have to think of something
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haha, i used to put something in my avatar/signature just so i didnt have to keep explaining it...ill have to think of something
There's no need to explain. You don't owe us a thing.
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very good post drkaje, you are right there are some gay people that cannot see the world outside their own self centered, self absorbed gay obsessed lives. They have sex on the brain and can hardly relate to any person without a sexual agenda, they objectify men and see them as opportunities for sexual gratification, they feel they are the sexual elite and know more about other peoples sexuality especially straights, than the people know themselves. They may have money, degrees etc. but their mental life is shallow and driven by sexual compulsion. They usual are very promiscuous burning out eventualy on sex and needing other thrills to get them off, one of their favorites is shocking and titilating straight people with tales of gay sex, and innuendos and accusations of straight men having sex with gay men, their biggest fantasy. It is totaly delusional but it gratifies them and makes them feel superior and that is really all that matters to them. They are elitists and although they need straight peoples acceptance of their behavior to normalize it, they believe they are better and more worldly than straight people. The gratification they get by reporting alleged sex between gay men and straight men and starting rumours and innuendo of g4pay really comes from hatred and vindictiveness towards straight men.
It seems today that straight men, particularly bb's, are being socialy repressed the same way gays, women and blacks were treated many years ago. For some people they expect a straight man, and especially white straight men, to always act in some dry stoic controlled masculine way otherwise they are accused of being weak, or soft, or feminine and not in control and may easily leap to doing something gay...Its like they want men and especially white men to always be the big man in charge, be the master, otherwise their integrity, strength and sexuality can all come into question and these bigoted few relish the opportunities to hurt the reputations of these men...It is fear and fantasy combined resulting in a hateful form of bigotry and repression that is perpetrated by bitter feminists and vindictive queers...The former want to see men as all bullies, ogres or dolts and the latter want to see them as all secretly wanting gay sex. Is it some form of payback for past repression? I dont know but whatever it is, it is hurtful to men and bad for society.
because of this expressed hatred, straight men and especially bodybuilders cannot act in any creative, expressive or emotional way or else there is some misguided fool accusing them of doing doing g4p. They cannot have gay friends or hang around gay people. They cant even wear clothes that were once icons of masculinity...denim, work boots, leather, hunting gear, carpentry gear, fishing gear, wife beaters, moustaches and beards....All of these styles existed long before any gay pride dance. I feel bad for some straight guy that cant wear a pair of leather chaps to protect himself while riding his motorcycle without some queer accusing him of looking for g4p, or some guy cant wear a pair of workboots and a tank top to do some yard work without some schmoe saying he is gay curious, or worse yet some poor guy cant even wear his uniform for his blue collar job without accused of dressing too gay...or some poor bodybuilder cannot even pose for an artistic, or sexy picture without people wondering how far a leap before he does g4p or gay porn...... It is getting ridiculous and it is hateful repression.
I hope the guys on this board take back their masculinity from the feminists and elitist queers and stop buying into their bullshit. Be proud of your masculinity and physical masculine characteristics. Wear whatever clothes you see fit that makes you feel hyper masculine and good about yourself, Pose for any picture in any manner you want , and show off you body to anyone you please without the fear and intimidation from elitist gays wanting to impose their hateful fantasy on you.
So dkjea you are right, some gays are myopic and boring and I will ad that some are also vindictive, bigoted and hateful towards straight men.
I apologize for my spelling and grammer, but this topic is getting so old.
Great post. Gays absolutely hate the fact that straight men won't sleep with them, so they feel the need to put straight men down by whatever means necessary. This is the secret that few gay guys will tell you: gay men, as a general rule, don't find other gays attractive. What they really want are straight men. Just look over dating sites like Craiglist and you'll see that the gay ads all call for "straight acting" or "masculine acting" men. Stereotypical femme gays? None wants them. Why? Because being gay is about being attracted to men, not women, and the bottom line is that the overwhelming majority of gay men act and behave like women. They go out of their way to appear masculine because this is what they like, but deep down they resent the fact that they need to play the masculine role because, being effeminate, gay men like to be wooed.
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Great post. Gays absolutely hate the fact that straight men won't sleep with them, so they feel the need to put straight men down by whatever means necessary. This is the secret that few gay guys will tell you: gay men, as a general rule, don't find other gays attractive. What they really want are straight men. Just look over dating sites like Craiglist and you'll see that the gay ads all call for "straight acting" or "masculine acting" men. Stereotypical femme gays? None wants them. Why? Because being gay is about being attracted to men, not women, and the bottom line is that the overwhelming majority of gay men act and behave like women. They go out of their way to appear masculine because this is what they like, but deep down they resent the fact that they need to play the masculine role because, being effeminate, gay men like to be wooed.
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hahahahahaha this has hit the nail on the head so to speak. ;D
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How much did the session cost you?
I dont know.
He stares at me with an angry look, I cant even talk to him.
CC!!!Tell me how much you charge!!!
I can offer diet advice together with money.
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I dont know.
He stares at me with an angry look, I cant even talk to him.
CC!!!Tell me how much you charge!!!
I can offer diet advice together with money.
Maybe you didn't offer enough money or asked for details on the "no touching" policy. No touching means no touching, what's difficult about that?. It's very unlikely a pro would need diet advice from you, Vince. What they need is money for more 'supps' and painkillers.
Just pay up front and keep your distance.
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Great post. Gays absolutely hate the fact that straight men won't sleep with them, so they feel the need to put straight men down by whatever means necessary. This is the secret that few gay guys will tell you: gay men, as a general rule, don't find other gays attractive. What they really want are straight men. Just look over dating sites like Craiglist and you'll see that the gay ads all call for "straight acting" or "masculine acting" men. Stereotypical femme gays? None wants them. Why? Because being gay is about being attracted to men, not women, and the bottom line is that the overwhelming majority of gay men act and behave like women. They go out of their way to appear masculine because this is what they like, but deep down they resent the fact that they need to play the masculine role because, being effeminate, gay men like to be wooed.
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partially true suckmymuscle. imo effeminate gays do have it tougher , unless they are very funny, or very talented in the arts...so a lot of them are bitter and just mad at everyone, not just straight men. And there are plenty of masculne gay guys to go around and are atrracted to each other and they dont have any resentment toward straight guys.
But i think the nastiness that is directed toward straight guys is coming from very promiscuous sex addicted gays (and women), that believe that everyone should behave the way they do, and when they dont get the attention they want, they start all the accusations and innuendo and rumours towards everyone especialy towards the straight guys which to me is a form of hatred.
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partially true suckmymuscle. imo effeminate gays do have it tougher , unless they are very funny, or very talented in the arts...so a lot of them are bitter and just mad at everyone, not just straight men.
But i think the nastiness that is directed toward straight guys and especially bb's is coming from very promiscuous sex addicted gays (and women), that believe that everyone should behave the way they do, and when they dont get the attention they want, they start all the accusations and innuendo and rumours towards everyone especialy towards the straight guys which to me is a form of hatred.
very cool post. you are a great example of a gay guy not acting all militant and constantly judging everyone else as gay.
i think bay's confrontatial and gay obsessed stance actually makes people dislike gays
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i have an issue with 'gays'.
one if my best friends turned out to be gay - a total shock to everyone as he was a total womaniser, and could chat up any woman he wanted. had a few stunning girlfriends too.
we did everything together, watched football, went clubbing, went to tenefife on holiday, got drunk, had new year partying etc.
as soon as he came out - which wasn't planned, as he was outed by another 'gay', he left his job.
over time he got in with the gay scene - pubs, clubs etc.
he totally changed over time, we stopped hanging out, and anytime we went out i had to go to the gay club, and hang with his gay friends - who were all total dicks, and hated the fact a straight guy was in their club. They kept making a scene as well and shouting ' straight guy, etc' i couldn't ever perv on the hot lesbo's in peace without some stupid comment, etc
over time we lost contact completely. i see him now and again, and we hit it off again and get on, but we'll never be the same :(
now a few are probably thinking - it was me who changed, etc, but i swear i was totally behind him ;D no pun intended. no-one else would go to that club, or the pubs etc. i think he just felt more comfortable being with his own kind so to speak, and being himself - but still >:( he could fvck anything he wants in the bedroom, but he didn't have to change........... :'(
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i have an issue with 'gays'.
one if my best friends turned out to be gay - a total shock to everyone as he was a total womaniser, and could chat up any woman he wanted. had a few stunning girlfriends too.
we did everything together, watched football, went clubbing, went to tenefife on holiday, got drunk, had new year partying etc.
as soon as he came out - which wasn't planned, as he was outed by another 'gay', he left his job.
over time he got in with the gay scene - pubs, clubs etc.
he totally changed over time, we stopped hanging out, and anytime we went out i had to go to the gay club, and hang with his gay friends - who were all total dicks, and hated the fact a straight guy was in their club. They kept making a scene as well and shouting ' straight guy, etc' i couldn't ever perv on the hot lesbo's in peace without some stupid comment, etc
over time we lost contact completely. i see him now and again, and we hit it off again and get on, but we'll never be the same :(
now a few are probably thinking - it was me who changed, etc, but i swear i was totally behind him ;D no pun intended. no-one else would go to that club, or the pubs etc. i think he just felt more comfortable being with his own kind so to speak, and being himself - but still >:( he could fvck anything he wants in the bedroom, but he didn't have to change........... :'(
Feeling a little rejected because he didn't find you attractive. :)
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Feeling a little rejected because he didn't find you attractive. :)
of course, as you can see i've never recovered :'( ;D
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of course, as you can see i've never recovered :'( ;D
It's like you weren't good enough for him, LOL!
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It's like you weren't good enough for him, LOL!
OK OK DON'T RUB IT IN :'(
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i have an issue with 'gays'.
one if my best friends turned out to be gay - a total shock to everyone as he was a total womaniser, and could chat up any woman he wanted. had a few stunning girlfriends too.
we did everything together, watched football, went clubbing, went to tenefife on holiday, got drunk, had new year partying etc.
as soon as he came out - which wasn't planned, as he was outed by another 'gay', he left his job.
over time he got in with the gay scene - pubs, clubs etc.
he totally changed over time, we stopped hanging out, and anytime we went out i had to go to the gay club, and hang with his gay friends - who were all total dicks, and hated the fact a straight guy was in their club. They kept making a scene as well and shouting ' straight guy, etc' i couldn't ever perv on the hot lesbo's in peace without some stupid comment, etc
over time we lost contact completely. i see him now and again, and we hit it off again and get on, but we'll never be the same :(
now a few are probably thinking - it was me who changed, etc, but i swear i was totally behind him ;D no pun intended. no-one else would go to that club, or the pubs etc. i think he just felt more comfortable being with his own kind so to speak, and being himself - but still >:( he could fvck anything he wants in the bedroom, but he didn't have to change........... :'(
your friend should have made more of an effort to stay friends with you but you have to understand...most gays come out late in life, and it is a huge relief and like a re-birth(I like to say were Born Again .hahah)....all of a sudden life is a candy store and you want to have it all and fast.
Your buddy seems like masculine type guy so he probably thought to be gay you had to be femmy or a drag queen, so it took him longer ...So he was close to 30 before finding his own kind and it was probably a huge awakening and an amazing feeling of freedom and relief of pain...He probalby jumped in and never looked back. It is an intense time and everything is amazing, like looking at the world for the fist time, everything is brighter and more colorufl.. and you finally have a place in the world...then comes this huge need to make up for lost time and have as much fun as possible, go to every party and meet every guy, turn over every stone.
Because when you were u were hanging with straights and dating girls your were bored out of your mind and feeling like a fish out of water....it is a horrible feeling, like going through life in black and white or living underwater and not knowing what is wrong, and then all of a sudden when you come out you can breathe for the first time in your life and the world is in color and you feel your heart beat for the first time.
So, Its easy to forget your old friends and there is also some misplaced resentment on your old life and friends, you wish you came out sooner and feel you wasted a lot of your life in the closet....but that is the wrong reason to lose good friends, it wasnt their fault.
I would think by now he is over his gay re-birth and probably wondering about you and feeling bad he lost touch...YOu guys should plan a double date or do something that is not gay, just normal. Im sure your friendship will be just like it was in the past...if its not then he is identifying too much with gay culture and it is his loss. He needs to realize there is a big world out there, and he needs straight friends as much as he need gay friends. I think we all need each other.
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your friend should have made more of an effort to stay friends with you but you have to understand...most gays come out late in life, and it is a huge relief and like a re-birth(I like to say were Born Again .hahah)....all of a sudden life is a candy store and you want to have it all and fast.
Your buddy seems like masculine type guy so he probably thought to be gay you had to be femmy or a drag queen, so it took him longer ...So he was close to 30 before finding his own kind and it was probably a huge awakening and an amazing feeling of freedom and relief of pain...He probalby jumped in and never looked back. It is an intense time and everything is amazing, like looking at the world for the fist time, everything is brighter and more colorufl.. and you finally have a place in the world...then comes this huge need to make up for lost time and have as much fun as possible, go to every party and meet every guy, turn over every stone.
Because when you were u were hanging with straights and dating girls your were bored out of your mind and feeling like a fish out of water....it is a horrible feeling, like going through life in black and white or living underwater and not knowing what is wrong, and then all of a sudden when you come out you can breathe for the first time in your life and the world is in color and you feel your heart beat for the first time.
So, Its easy to forget your old friends and there is also some misplaced resentment on your old life and friends, you wish you came out sooner and feel you wasted a lot of your life in the closet....but that is the wrong reason to lose good friends, it wasnt their fault.
I would think by now he is over his gay re-birth and probably wondering about you and feeling bad he lost touch...YOu guys should plan a double date or do something that is not gay, just normal. Im sure your friendship will be just like it was in the past...if its not then he is identifying too much with gay culture and it is his loss. He needs to realize there is a big world out there, and he needs straight friends as much as he need gay friends. I think we all need each other.
that.....was......beauti ful :'( :D
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that.....was......beautiful
The problem with straight men and gay men being friends is that the gay friend will always want to have sex with his straight friend deep down. It is the same reason why genuine friendships between straight men and women are impossible, because the straight guy will always secretly desire to have sex with her, unless she is hedeously ugly. That's the problem. The male sex drive is very, very strong - to put it mildly - and makes no concessions. I know several straight guys witjh hot sisters who told me they have jacked off thinking about doing their sisters, and several gay guys who've told me they have jacked off thinking about their brothers. If men can see their own siblings sexually, then just imagine how they see their friends.
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The problem with straight men and gay men being friends is that the gay friend will always want to have sex with his straight friend deep down. It is the same reason why genuine friendships between straight men and women are impossible, because the straight guy will always secretly desire to have sex with her, unless she is hedeously ugly. That's the problem. The male sex drive is very, very strong - to put it mildly - and makes no concessions. I know several straight guys witjh hot sisters who told me they have jacked off thinking about doing their sisters, and several gay guys who've told me they have jacked off thinking about their brothers. If men can see their own siblings sexually, then just imagine how they see their friends.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
:-X
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The problem with straight men and gay men being friends is that the gay friend will always want to have sex with his straight friend deep down. It is the same reason why genuine friendships between straight men and women are impossible, because the straight guy will always secretly desire to have sex with her, unless she is hedeously ugly. That's the problem. The male sex drive is very, very strong - to put it mildly - and makes no concessions. I know several straight guys witjh hot sisters who told me they have jacked off thinking about doing their sisters, and several gay guys who've told me they have jacked off thinking about their brothers. If men can see their own siblings sexually, then just imagine how they see their friends.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Just because someone's gay doesn't mean they want to be gay with you, LOL!
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Hahaha, this thread is a true classic. ;D
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Just because someone's gay doesn't mean they want to be gay with you, LOL!
Really? So if you were friends with some good-looking chick, wouldn't you jack off thinking about doing her? If you answer in the negative, then you're lying.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I have made friends with men in the past only to find they were after sex. It actually happened to me a few times. Its a very weird situation, men tend to be more forward about their 'feelings/lust'. Once again suckmymuscle is 100% correct.
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Really? So if you were friends with some good-looking chick, wouldn't you jack off thinking about doing her? If you answer in the negative, then you're lying.
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They don't think the same as us. We love poontang and of course would think about sleeping with a hot friend.
You, like the rest of us, are probably nowhere near as good looking as you think. Having a gay friend that didn't want to have sex might shatter your fragile ego. :)
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They don't think the same as us. We love poontang and of course would think about sleeping with a hot friend.
You, like the rest of us, are probably nowhere near as good looking as you think. Having a gay friend that didn't want to have sex might shatter your fragile ego. :)
my gay mate did want to fvck me, so i think suckmy is correct.
i know i want to fvck evey girl i am friends with, i might not want to be in a relationship with them, but i do want to fvck them - even the ugly ones.
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They don't think the same as us. We love poontang and of course would think about sleeping with a hot friend.
Idiot. They are still men. Thye still love to have casual sex. Trust me: gay men are just as horny as straight, possibly even more. Just like you want to put your dick inside any vagina you see, gay guys want to fuck any men they see. The desire for sex is related to tstosterone levels, and gay men have just as much of it as straight men.
You, like the rest of us, are probably nowhere near as good looking as you think. Having a gay friend that didn't want to have sex might shatter your fragile ego. :)
This is irrelevant. You don't need to be super good-looking for gay men to want to have sex with you, in the same way that a woman doesen't need to be very good-looking for straight guys to want to have sex with them. Men are dogs when it comes to sex, gay or straight.
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Idiot. They are still men. They still love to have casual sex. Trust me: gay men are just as horny as straight, possibly even more. Just like you want to put your dick inside any vagina you see, gay guys want to fuck any men they see. The desire for sex is related to tstosterone levels, and gay men have just as much of it as straight men.
This isn't entirely accurate.... If any of you have noticed... Gay men tend to be rather "clickish" in regards to their taste in men. Where when we are talking about a group of straight men...we can make broader generalizations when describing what women we think are hot... (for example every straight male is going to find someone like an Angelina Jolie, or Halley berry attractive...even if its in different degrees of attraction.) You cant really do that on the gay side of the spectrum... that is why there are twinks, bears, etc... Gay men tend to prefer a very specific type of man, and rarely deviate from that. (Of course this isn't true of every gay male, but safe to say, the majority.)
It is a common misconception that men have.... thinking that every gay wants a piece of their ass...lol
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Idiot. They are still men. Thye still love to have casual sex. Trust me: gay men are just as horny as straight, possibly even more. Just like you want to put your dick inside any vagina you see, gay guys want to fuck any men they see. The desire for sex is related to tstosterone levels, and gay men have just as much of it as straight men.
This is irrelevant. You don't need to be super good-looking for gay men to want to have sex with you, in the same way that a woman doesen't need to be very good-looking for straight guys to want to have sex with them. Men are dogs when it comes to sex, gay or straight.
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I'm not going to argue with an expert. :)
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The problem with straight men and gay men being friends is that the gay friend will always want to have sex with his straight friend deep down. It is the same reason why genuine friendships between straight men and women are impossible, because the straight guy will always secretly desire to have sex with her, unless she is hedeously ugly. That's the problem. The male sex drive is very, very strong - to put it mildly - and makes no concessions. I know several straight guys witjh hot sisters who told me they have jacked off thinking about doing their sisters, and several gay guys who've told me they have jacked off thinking about their brothers. If men can see their own siblings sexually, then just imagine how they see their friends.
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WTF? :-X
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You cant really do that on the gay side of the spectrum... that is why there are twinks, bears, etc... Gay men tend to prefer a very specific type of man, and rarely deviate from that.
that's for sure. bay and I will never find ourselves vying for the attention of the same man.
Men are dogs when it comes to sex, gay or straight.
one advantage, I suppose, that gay guys have is that they can be the pursuer or the pursued. (I'm not talking top or bottom.) if a straight guy wants to hook up with someone, he has to go out and work for it. a gay guy can do the same, or he can sit back and let the suitors come to him.
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one advantage, I suppose, that gay guys have is that they can be the pursuer or the pursued. (I'm not talking top or bottom.) if a straight guy wants to hook up with someone, he has to go out and work for it. a gay guy can do the same, or he can sit back and let the suitors come to him.
tell me than how is it sooo bad being a gay man then?
besides all the social prejudice, they have it good
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besides all the social prejudice, they have it good
social prejudice here, gay bashing there, teen hangings by various foreign states
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social prejudice here, gay bashing there, teen hangings by various foreign states
all bad things...YES
...but....the random hooking up makes up for it
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I have often wondered about this.... Would things be a lot easier as a gay man? To be fair... I am sometimes envious of gay men in just how ridiculously easy sex is, (assuming that you are in relatively decent shape.) If anyone were to take a casual glance at Craigslist hook up ads in the MfM section....you will know what I am talking about... things like "Looking for someone to come over unzip...blow a load in my mouth, then leave...no reciprocation required." Whats amusing is that ads like this are not uncommon...
Life would be a better place if women thought/acted like that!
Another interesting observation.... I think because sex comes so easy to gay men...that is why so many come off as incredibly superficial, and aloof. Most straight men spend so much energy chasing women to procure sex, that this eats away at a lot of their free time. Well in the case of a gay male...they don't really have to worry about that....so they have to spend there time and mental energy in more absurd fashions....
Nonetheless...despite some of the perks involved, I don't think anyone would ever choose to be gay. There is simply way too much emotional hardship involved. IMO
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I have often wondered about this.... Would things be a lot easier as a gay man? To be fair... I am sometimes envious of gay men in just how ridiculously easy sex is, (assuming that you are in relatively decent shape.) If anyone were to take a casual glance at Craigslist hook up ads in the MfM section....you will know what I am talking about... things like "Looking for someone to come over unzip...blow a load in my mouth, then leave...no reciprocation required." Whats amusing is that ads like this are not uncommon...
Life would be a better place if women thought/acted like that!
Another interesting observation.... I think because sex comes so easy to gay men...that is why so many come off as incredibly superficial, and aloof. Most straight men spend so much energy chasing women to procure sex, that this eats away at a lot of their free time. Well in the case of a gay male...they don't really have to worry about that....so they have to spend there time and mental energy in more absurd fashions....
Nonetheless...despite some of the perks involved, I don't think anyone would ever choose to be gay. There is simply way too much emotional hardship involved. IMO
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the answer is YES
it sux being a straight man.....
....pussy is the best part BUT even the worlds greatest "player" still has to put some effort into getting it.
judging by how gay men react to me (i know how they stare) I would make a KILLING as a gay
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judging by how gay men react to me (i know how they stare) I would make a KILLING as a gay
they allow straight guys on model mayhem?
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they allow straight guys on model mayhem?
yes
funny though, since i have been their NOT ONE female has contacted me
then again, it's a known fact that most of the photographers in figure modeling are gay. You pretty much have to be "gay friendly" before entering this "business"
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If anyone were to take a casual glance at Craigslist hook up ads in the MfM section....you will know what I am talking about... things like "Looking for someone to come over unzip...blow a load in my mouth, then leave...no reciprocation required." Whats amusing is that ads like this are not uncommon...
I don't take 'casual glances' at that shit. Also, I would prefer a jerk off and some good porn to some homo blowing me or a mans disgusting and revolting hairy anus hole smelling of shit. AIDS lives of these guys
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then again, it's a known fact that most of the photographers in figure modeling are gay. You pretty much have to be "gay friendly" before entering this "business"
most of the models are gay too. the rest, it takes a few beers.
from the people I know on there, modelmayhem is just an upscale version of manhunt (for casual sex) or rentboy (for escorting).
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why are gay men so scared to admit if they are bottoms? is it a stigma even for them
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from the people I know on there, modelmayhem is just an upscale version of manhunt (for casual sex) or rentboy (for escorting).
that too,
however, I can say that 7 out of 10 "offers" i get are "legit". Legit as in legit photographers with legit projects
the rest is offers for solo work- however, the solo work offers I get are in the 1500-2000 range not like the 50-100 bucks you get offered on craig's list
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why are gay men so scared to admit if they are bottoms? is it a stigma even for them
Howard Stern always asks guys this very question , most deny it
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Howard Stern always asks guys this very question , most deny it
its weird. its like they can admit to being gay but bending over and taking it in the ass? 'hellz no, thats fag shit' ;D
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its weird. its like they can admit to being gay but bending over and taking it in the ass? 'hellz no, thats fag shit' ;D
George Tekeai admitted he used to but doesn't anymore but 99% of the gay men he has on deny it and he calls them out for BSing
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George Tekeai admitted he used to but doesn't anymore but 99% of the gay men he has on deny it and he calls them out for BSing
he and brad switch from time to time
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its weird. its like they can admit to being gay but bending over and taking it in the ass? 'hellz no, thats fag shit' ;D
dont they all take it up the ass ???
i thought it was needed to be gay ???
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yes
funny though, since i have been their NOT ONE female has contacted me
then again, it's a known fact that most of the photographers in figure modeling are gay. You pretty much have to be "gay friendly" before entering this "business"
Gays have a thing called Gaydar which lets them recognize their own. :)
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Gays have a thing called Gaydar which lets them recognize their own. :)
i'm not gay but then again- I totally look like a queer
I'm tanned, toned, handsome (in a ethnic bad guy in a late 90's van damme movie sense), smell good and dress well....so yes, i totally look like a gay
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i'm not gay but then again- I totally look like a queer
I'm tanned, toned, handsome (in a ethnic bad guy in a late 90's van damme movie sense), smell good and dress well....so yes, i totally look like a gay
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck... it's probably a duck. :)
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dont they all take it up the ass ???
i thought it was needed to be gay ???
no, they have a thing called tops and bottoms. all gays admit to being tops (doing the sodomizing) none admit to being the bottom ) recipient of penis in anus)
only gay i seen admit he likes to be buggered is baygbm
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George Tekeai admitted he used to but doesn't anymore but 99% of the gay men he has on deny it and he calls them out for BSing
George Takei is not exactly an icon of masculinity. I bet captain Kirk had some fun tapping that ass - still better than Uhura's, that's for sure.
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no, they have a thing called tops and bottoms. all gays admit to being tops (doing the sodomizing) none admit to being the bottom ) recipient of penis in anus)
For someone who claims to be straight, you sure seem to know a lot about gay subculture :-\
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no, they have a thing called tops and bottoms. all gays admit to being tops (doing the sodomizing) none admit to being the bottom ) recipient of penis in anus)
psst, here is a secret....some gays, even some gay couples, are 100% oral
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For someone who claims to be straight, you sure seem to know a lot about gay subculture :-\
epic hypocrisy. or do you admit to being homsexual? i would have thought that were straight as a gay would surely not wear size 44 inch waist walmart special offer pants
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psst, here is a secret....some gays, even some gay couples, are 100% oral
i can understand that tim. i mean, seriously, i shit so much that there is nearly always heaps of turd in my asshole. a gay would get no pleasure from me,
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epic hypocrisy. or do you admit to being homsexual? i would have thought that were straight as a gay would surely not wear size 44 inch waist walmart special offer pants
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Nice PM, "deltaforce" Are you threatening me? ::)
I am making you my bitch and there ain't nothing you can do about it. tell you waht, how about I come and rearrnage your face like the sack of walmart wearing pants crap you are. I can mess you up real bad ;)
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same tired old act from the pathetic pandamoneum. call people gay, post the same old " fail" pictures and then pretend someone pmed you. a middle aged man playing the same game over and over. truly pitiful. you should learn from your deserved time in timeout. the boss is watching you son
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same tired old act from the pathetic pandamoneum. call people gay, post the same old " fail" pictures and then pretend someone pmed you. a middle aged man playing the same game over and over. truly pitiful. you should learn from your deserved time in timeout. the boss is watching you son
Hate to break it to you, bitchboy, but the "boss" doesn't give two shits about you or your boyfriend "james001." ::)
So you can keep up the whining and bitching, but there's nothing you can do to stop anything. Got it, cumbreath?
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Hate to break it to you, bitchboy, but the "boss" doesn't give two shits about you or your boyfriend "james001." ::)
So you can keep up the whining and bitching, but there's nothing you can do to stop anything. Got it, cumbreath?
you dont know about what he thinks and he was suitably disgusted with pandamoneum to TO him. this means he went to far and he should reflect on that. i also think he is probably really getting bored with his board being ruined by guys who just call everyone "gay" every post.
grow up , or join a teen board. stop ruining the board with your braindead, infantile , repititive and pathetically unoriginal spam.
or maybe you will get a trip to TO
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Hate to break it to you, bitchboy, but the "boss" doesn't give two shits about you or your boyfriend "james001." ::)
So you can keep up the whining and bitching, but there's nothing you can do to stop anything. Got it, cumbreath?
hey Jeff, "deltaforce" sounds like quite the tough guy in this PM, doesn't he. Should I be scared? ;D ::)
I am making you my bitch and there ain't nothing you can do about it. tell you waht, how about I come and rearrnage your face like the sack of walmart wearing pants crap you are. I can mess you up real bad ;)
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hey Jeff, "deltaforce" sounds like quite the tough guy in this PM, doesn't he. Should I be scared? ;D ::)
Damn, you know he's close to reaching full meltdown mode when you start recieving threats of violence via pm, oh brother... :o
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haha panda is melting down from his time in timeout and jeffro ran away when james put the smackdown on him. like i said everyone has seen you pathetic old games a million times. shame you made nothing of your life ;D
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haha panda is melting down from his time in timeout and jeffro ran away when james put the smackdown on him. like i said everyone has seen you pathetic old games a million times. shame you made nothing of your life ;D
Exactly how I am "melting down" simply by posting the psychotic PM you sent me? I don't get it ??? :-\
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lol. who do you think you are impressing? no one is laughing or backing you up man. all you do is 4 things on this board
1. call people gay
2. insult people's girlfriends
3. pretend they sent you a pm
4. post the same old "fail" pictures over and over
God, it must suck to reach your age in life and only have this to give you any sense of purpose and feeling of self worth.
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lol. who do you think you are impressing? no one is laughing or backing you up man. all you do is 4 things on this board
1. call people gay
2. insult people's girlfriends
3. pretend they sent you a pm
4. post the same old "fail" pictures over and over
God, it must suck to reach your age in life and only have this to give you any sense of purpose and feeling of self worth.
bla bla bla. Just please explain your psychotic PM
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one advantage, I suppose, that gay guys have is that they can be the pursuer or the pursued. (I'm not talking top or bottom.) if a straight guy wants to hook up with someone, he has to go out and work for it. a gay guy can do the same, or he can sit back and let the suitors come to him.
You don't know many attractive straight men, I gather.
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bla bla bla. Just please explain your psychotic PM
Telling by his bizarre pm and ranting posts, I think we have a crazed lunatic on our hands with this "DeltsaForce," he should probably seek professional help. :-\
haha panda is melting down from his time in timeout and jeffro ran away when james put the smackdown on him. like i said everyone has seen you pathetic old games a million times. shame you made nothing of your life ;D
Im not sure how I ever "ran away" from "james001," please elaborate, Mr. Delusional. ::)
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bla bla bla. Just please explain your psychotic PM
haha you're so limited and predictable, no wonder james managed to get you time outed so easy and you begged ron to let you out.
jeffro - big talk but you didnt do so much under your account your pic got posted on. LOLZ
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haha you're so limited and predictable, no wonder james managed to get you time outed so easy and you begged ron to let you out.
jeffro - big talk but you didnt do so much under your account your pic got posted on. LOLZ
What are you blabbering about now? Wipe the cum out of your eyes and try typing a coherent sentence. :-\
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I am making you my bitch and there ain't nothing you can do about it. tell you waht, how about I come and rearrnage your face like the sack of walmart wearing pants crap you are. I can mess you up real bad ;)
melt, melt, melt ;D
(http://www.capetowndailyphoto.com/uploaded_images/Ice_Cream_Cone_IMG_7819-757562.jpg)
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the funniset thing is that pandae begged to be let out of timeout . "jeffro" who has a VERY fat face was also campaigning to get his man out of jail. thankfully "pandae" cried enough to ron to get out and spam the board with the same old routine and repetitive posts he has for years.
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Guess which one of these kids is "deltaforce"
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42280000/jpg/_42280634_bully_416.jpg)
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the funniset thing is that pandae begged to be let out of timeout . "jeffro" who has a VERY fat face was also campaigning to get his man out of jail. thankfully "pandae" cried enough to ron to get out and spam the board with the same old routine and repetitive posts he has for years.
The most pathetic thing of all is that "PANDAEMONIUM" doesn't seem to realize that the whole board has seen his tired old act of pretending someone sent him a pm. It's why no one believes him or is laughing. It's called beating a long dead horse, they do that a lot here. Him and his little lick spittle gimp "jeffro".
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the funniset thing is that pandae begged to be let out of timeout . "jeffro" who has a VERY fat face was also campaigning to get his man out of jail. thankfully "pandae" cried enough to ron to get out and spam the board with the same old routine and repetitive posts he has for years.
More delusion from our gimmick friend "DeltsaForce. You're trying way too hard. ::)
Something tells me you're not cut out for this, maybe you should give the Positive board a try. :-\
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The most pathetic thing of all is that "PANDAEMONIUM" doesn't seem to realize that the whole board has seen his tired old act of pretending someone sent him a pm. It's why no one believes him or is laughing. It's called beating a long dead horse, they do that a lot here. Him and his little lick spittle gimp "jeffro".
Funny how "deltaforce" is now "offline" and another gimmick comes in to back him up.
(http://www.freegamesnews.com/en/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/Fishy300-2.jpg)
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The most pathetic thing of all is that "PANDAEMONIUM" doesn't seem to realize that the whole board has seen his tired old act of pretending someone sent him a pm. It's why no one believes him or is laughing. It's called beating a long dead horse, they do that a lot here. Him and his little lick spittle gimp "jeffro".
OMFG TOO FUNNY!! It's touching the way that Jeffro pined for his master and campaigned to have the obese, walmart fat pants clad , unemployed 30 something realeased ;D
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Funny how "deltaforce" is now "offline" and another gimmick comes in to back him up.
(http://www.freegamesnews.com/en/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/Fishy300-2.jpg)
Fuck, Pandae is on his game tonight, these twinks never had a chance. Pure ownage. :o
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Fuck, Pandae is on his game tonight, these twinks never had a chance. Pure ownage. :o
Funny how everyone seems to see you as the submissive one who is the gimp in the relationship. Wonder how u feel about that?
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Here's the perfect soundtrack for this thread :D
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I remember asking myself about three to four years ago, what do these people do for a living to support this life style. Food , shelter , gear, some even have pimp cars. At the time I had no idea what kind of "cycles" these people were doing. Then when I started frequenting this board and found out about the g4p that day at the gym I found my self working out not as hard. It crossed my mind that some of these people were running homo shit, but never again will what I was doing at the gym be considered as the only real sport where there is no lucky shots, fouls. Now its just something I do and want never to be associated with this "sport" ever. I don't "bodybuild", if anybody asks I'll say "lift weights".
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A funny story... One time outside of the Gold's Venice doors... I saw a top amateur competitor come outside after his workout...and some guy came up to him...right out in the open and said something along the lines of, "Hey man...I work with xyz production company...we have some work you might be interested in....no full blown sex, but there is nudity involved, and it pays good money."
You think the guys reaction would have been to tell the guy to fuck off... but the guy simply nodded his head and said that they should find somewhere to talk about it.
Right out in the open...broad daylight...plenty of people walking in and out.... thats how common this is...
M!
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I didn't either until I started following the G&O forum of getbig.
Thanks to the exposure, I saw bodybuilding for what it was.
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Here's the perfect soundtrack for this thread :D
hahahaha
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Here's the perfect soundtrack for this thread :D
Fock the gay stuff, I feel old for even knowing that. :'(
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I am not gay, but if some assclown wanted to pay me even $250 to worship my bicep....then sign me up! ... 8)
I just dont see the big deal in it....
M!
If some assclown wanted to pay $250 to worship your bicep, chest, legs, etc. would you sign up?
http://snappoll.com/poll/315504.php
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If some assclown wanted to pay $250 to worship your bicep, chest, legs, etc. would you sign up?
http://snappoll.com/poll/315504.php
is worshiping a bicep the same as me worshiping my gf's feet? i like to kiss, smell, lick and suck her toes. i've yet to blow my load on her feet, but i do grind my cock on them.
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If some assclown wanted to pay $250 to worship your bicep, chest, legs, etc. would you sign up?
http://snappoll.com/poll/315504.php
as in they would pay me or i would pay them?
if it is the later, then i can easily say that 250 is the given rate these days
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Guys like Jay Cutler, Lee Haney, Ronnie Coleman, Frank Zane and many others would never go for G4P shit. Only desperate, lazy, morally bankrupt, value-less individuals indulge in such sordid activities.
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Guys like Jay Cutler, Lee Haney, Ronnie Coleman, Frank Zane and many others would never go for G4P shit. Only desperate, lazy, morally bankrupt, value-less individuals indulge in such sordid activities.
Um...this isnt terribly accurate. Jay Cutler lived with Ed Conners for a while, and was required to only wear posing trunks or other skimpy clothing. I dont think anything overtly sexual occured between them, but that is just slightly homoerotic. ::)
Also Arnold has skeletons in his closet, many of which Im sure will go to the grave with him, but a few have leaked, take this pic that was taken from a Gay eruopean that claims to have paid him for his...err... company. :-\
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Guys like Jay Cutler, Lee Haney, Ronnie Coleman, Frank Zane and many others would never go for G4P shit. Only desperate, lazy, morally bankrupt, value-less individuals indulge in such sordid activities.
Another bubble just waiting to be burst. ::)
Every muscle hero was young and broke at one point, remember that. Putting on a thong and posing for males (one or many) isn't exactly an integrity building exercise.
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They cant even wear clothes that were once icons of masculinity...denim, work boots, leather, hunting gear, carpentry gear, fishing gear, wife beaters, moustaches and beards....All of these styles existed long before any gay pride dance.
Whoa!!!
When the fuck did beards become gay?
Only hetrotigers rock the bushy, Grizzly Adams style facial growth:
(http://www.talisweb.com/hosting/david/daviduri/images/Special_Forces_soldier.jpg)
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Whoa!!!
When the fuck did beards become gay?
Only hetrotigers rock the bushy, Grizzly Adams style facial growth:
(http://www.talisweb.com/hosting/david/daviduri/images/Special_Forces_soldier.jpg)
some gays start fantasizing about real men and want them to be gay. don't let it bug you.
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Um...this isnt terribly accurate. Jay Cutler lived with Ed Conners for a while, and was required to only wear posing trunks or other skimpy clothing. I dont think anything overtly sexual occured between them, but that is just slightly homoerotic. ::)
Also Arnold has skeletons in his closet, many of which Im sure will go to the grave with him, but a few have leaked, take this pic that was taken from a Gay eruopean that claims to have paid him for his...err... company. :-\
Arnold saw my weenie and I saw his on a few occassions. I never thought about it being gay. But, now that everyone is talking about it. By the way I only had quick glances cause I didn't want to get caught
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Arnold saw my weenie and I saw his on a few occassions. I never thought about it being gay. But, now that everyone is talking about it. By the way I only had quick glances cause I didn't want to get caught
Well this is heterosexual ::)
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it could end up like that if you don't draw cross the line
I can't speak for no one else but for myself. If another person, wants to puff a cock, that is on them- they obviously have different limits than what I have
I can truly say that their is "a LINE" that I would never ever cross
but, back to the point of 250 bucks for muscle "worship".
If some schmoe offers me 250 bucks for a half hour session given that their is no contact whatsoever - then i still believe that i would be a schmuck to turn down that easy, non taxable money
Tom Prince approved......
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Its very easy to take a moral high ground when we are talking about something that will never happen to us, (no one is ever likely to offer us $1m for sex), but I assure you all that you ALL have a PRICE....and sadly it isnt as much as you would like to think. If someone really were to walk in to your house right now with several duffell bags of tax-free money...would would do whatever sexual act they wanted.
To quote vanilla ice... "I would lick my mom's ass for a million dollars." Im sure you all would too.
M!
You'd never make the front line in a war.....weak ass disposition.....be strong, be true to yourself and tell the c'nt to shove that money up his ass.
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Guys like Jay Cutler, Lee Haney, Ronnie Coleman, Frank Zane and many others would never go for G4P shit. Only desperate, lazy, morally bankrupt, value-less individuals indulge in such sordid activities.
um if you dont think they had sugar daddies, you live in a glass bubble
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I don't think I could do g4p. I've got too many gnarly scars and tats. It's for the best though.
Throw in some muscle and that can be hot! :P
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Time to ungay this thread...
bodybuilding = art
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Time to ungay this thread...
bodybuilding = art
You can't ungay a "sport" where the whole point is to show off your glistening muscles to an audience of cheering men! :D
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I was better off knowing about it!
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Um...this isnt terribly accurate. Jay Cutler lived with Ed Conners for a while, and was required to only wear posing trunks or other skimpy clothing. I dont think anything overtly sexual occured between them, but that is just slightly homoerotic. ::)
Also Arnold has skeletons in his closet, many of which Im sure will go to the grave with him, but a few have leaked, take this pic that was taken from a Gay eruopean that claims to have paid him for his...err... company. :-\
for every bodybuilding shot there is probably the same pose like this as shot here. they used to draw trunks on a lot of these pics for the mainstream mags like s and h md im.