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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Alex23 on December 09, 2008, 10:37:07 PM
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if there are still thingz, call me @ 510-870-1537, we can talk about it.
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We have a winner! :D
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(http://www.geocities.com/gymcentertr/galeri/ron1/coleman_16.JPG)
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251145.0;attach=291330)
if there are still thingz, call me @ 510-870-1537, we can talk about it.
WOW HE REALLY LOOKS GREAT!
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251145.0;attach=291330)
if there are still thingz, call me @ 510-870-1537, we can talk about it.
Look and weep, retard. 283 lbs with conditioning and symmetry better than Coleman's at 264 lbs. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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We have a winner! :D
Where are your 20" ripped guns ::)
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251145.0;attach=291330)
if there are still thingz, call me @ 510-870-1537, we can talk about it.
It's supposed to be a side chest, not a "side most muscular". Like Arnold said, "If you don't have it, don't hit it!"
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Where are your 20" ripped guns ::)
Would you settle for disproportionately small 17s? :o
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Mandatories are mandatory, hope this helps.
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It's supposed to be a side chest, not a "side most muscular". Like Arnold said, "If you don't have it, don't hit it!"
Anything Ronnie hits is a "most muscular" ;D
It's going to be a long time before anyone can top that photo
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251145.0;attach=291330)
if there are still thingz, call me @ 510-870-1537, we can talk about it.
I called but I didn't get you, someone said it isn't Alex's number, you gave us a wrong number!
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8) RONNIE met DORIAN on stage and got crushed ! That should have been the end of the story ! ::)
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I don't get this debate its simple. Dorian was better than Ronnie at the time they competed together but by 2001 Ronnie was much better than Dorian. No one can beat 100% Ronnie (i.e ASC and 2003 Olympia shape)
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Ronnie >>>>> Dorian. Funny how the Dorian backers use mostly black-and-white NON-COMPETITION photos to show how good he is, while the Ronnie fans post ACTUAL COMPETITION PHOTOS for comparison. I'm not a huge Ronnie fan but come on people the dude is the freakiest thing to ever hit the stage
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I don't get this debate its simple. Dorian was better than Ronnie at the time they competed together but by 2001 Ronnie was much better than Dorian. No one can beat 100% Ronnie (i.e ASC and 2003 Olympia shape)
I would agree that Ronnie looked very good at the 2001 ASC, but I can't understand the propensity to herald 2003 Ronnie as having presented anything astonishing. Indeed, he was huge and carried tremendous size, but at the considerable expense of conditioning. I'll take 2001 ASC Ronnie over the 2003 version any day. That being said, I fail to see how Dorian in his 260 pound version at the 1995 Olympia would not be able compare very favorably with the 247 pound 2001 ASC Ronnie.
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8) 8) 8)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/03%20Mr%20Olympia/RonnieColeman156.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/03%20Mr%20Olympia/RonnieColeman155.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/03%20Mr%20Olympia/RonnieColeman5abc.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/03%20Mr%20Olympia/RonnieColeman47ab.jpg)
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if Ronnie were a silver back gorilla, then Dorian would be an orangutan.
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/03%20Mr%20Olympia/2003MrOlympia-MuscularityRound9a.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/93%20Mr%20Olympia/DorianYates-FatCow5.jpg)
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2001 ASC Ronnie was still of higher quality than the 2003 version at the Olympia.
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good side chest shot by Ronnie.
Um, why don't he cinch that arm under his ribcage?
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WHY!!??
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8) RONNIE met DORIAN on stage and got crushed ! That should have been the end of the story ! ::)
No, the end of the story came 8 Sandows later
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I would agree that Ronnie looked very good at the 2001 ASC, but I can't understand the propensity to herald 2003 Ronnie as having presented anything astonishing. Indeed, he was huge and carried tremendous size, but at the considerable expense of conditioning. I'll take 2001 ASC Ronnie over the 2003 version any day. That being said, I fail to see how Dorian in his 260 pound version at the 1995 Olympia would not be able compare very favorably with the 247 pound 2001 ASC Ronnie.
that is an 04 photo.
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that is an 04 photo.
The Ronnie photos are from 03.
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8) RONNIE met DORIAN on stage and got crushed ! That should have been the end of the story ! ::)
Brutal child-like over-simplification and adherence to IFBB contest placing brainwashing.
Actually it looks like even in the mid-90s it was the keg being crushed against a still-improving Coleman, except on judge's "scoring".
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Brutal child-like over-simplification and adherence to IFBB contest placing brainwashing.
Actually it looks like even in the mid-90s it was the keg being crushed against a still-improving Coleman, except on judge's "scoring".
WOW brutal evidence of NOTHING Dorian way off to the left and Ronnie closer to the camera to the right lol same contest YOU have no excuses now ;)
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Brutal child-like over-simplification and adherence to IFBB contest placing brainwashing.
Actually it looks like even in the mid-90s it was the keg being crushed against a still-improving Coleman, except on judge's "scoring".
;D RONNI couldnt win shit until the shadow retired ! Swing off RONs sack all you want ! this is a fact !
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No, the end of the story came 8 Sandows later
;D And he couldnt win even ONE while DORIAN was around ! End of the debate ! 8)
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you guys need to get a life.
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All nuggets
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WOW brutal evidence of NOTHING Dorian way off to the left and Ronnie closer to the camera to the right lol same contest YOU have no excuses now ;)
You complain about the other pic, but here Dorian is closer to the camera, and Ronnie is turned to the right.
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You complain about the other pic, but here Dorian is closer to the camera, and Ronnie is turned to the right.
No he's not and they're side-by-side not one end or the other
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No he's not and they're side-by-side not one end or the other
Look at the pic, Ronnie is turned to the right (you can see the left side of his stomach). That would shorten the width of his back a little.
Plus, regardless of angle, Dorian is getting owned here:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251730.0;attach=292476;image)
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Look at the pic, Ronnie is turned to the right (you can see the left side of his stomach). That would shorten the width of his back a little.
Plus, regardless of angle, Dorian is getting owned here:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251730.0;attach=292476;image)
No he's not He's not holding his lats like Ronnie , Ronnie his his forward and Dorian doesn't and Dorian is all the way to the left that's not accurate
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No he's not He's not holding his lats like Ronnie , Ronnie his his forward and Dorian doesn't and Dorian is all the way to the left that's not accurate
stop making excuses. Both are sharing the same stage and hitting the same pose. Ronnie is clearly matching Dorian in width and surpasses him in thickness and taper.
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stop making excuses. Both are sharing the same stage and hitting the same pose. Ronnie is clearly matching Dorian in width and surpasses him in thickness and taper.
You're fucking high if you think he surpasses this in thickness among the dumbest things you've ever typed in your GetBig history
night & day Thickness , Density , Detail and width NO CONTEST Dorian is vastly superior
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You're fucking high if you think he surpasses this in thickness among the dumbest things you've ever typed in your GetBig history
I can't tell if you're joking or not. Ronnie's back is thicker in your comparison. ???
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I can't tell if you're joking or not. Ronnie's back is thicker in your comparison. ???
Only a complete fool would claim so , Ronnie's back isn't thicker ANYWHERE not the traps , not the lats , not the teres , not the infraspinatus , not the spinal erctors not the lumbar NO WHERE especially not 1996
it's not open for discussion , and this isn't even Dorian at his biggest or best
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Only a complete fool would claim so , Ronnie's back isn't thicker ANYWHERE not the traps , not the lats , not the teres , not the infraspinatus , not the spinal erctors not the lumbar NO WHERE especially not 1996
look at the shadows in your pic, dipshit. Words are MEANINGLESS when the visual evidence doesn't back it up.
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look at the shadows in your pic, dipshit. Words are MEANINGLESS when the visual evidence doesn't back it up.
You see what you want as usual. again you're insane if you think Coleman 1996 has a thicker back than Dorian it's lunacy , believe what you'd like but this is just another one of your insanely stupid comments
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You see what you want as usual. again you're insane if you think Coleman 1996 has a thicker back than Dorian it's lunacy , believe what you'd like but this is just another one of your insanely stupid comments
no, I see what's in the pic. Ronnie's back is thicker. This isn't even up for debate. Seriously, what criteria are you using to gauge thickness in the pic you posted?
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no, I see what's in the pic. Ronnie's back is thicker. This isn't even up for debate. Seriously, what criteria are you using to gauge thickness in the pic you posted?
NO , no you see what you want . and I love how you say it's not open for debate when in fact NO ONE was claiming Ronnie's back as anywhere near the best ever in 1996 and now you're re-writing history lol
what criteria and I using? for muscle thickness? depth , size and length of all of the back muscles equal the thicker back of the two
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wow alex is that your cell phone number?!!
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NO , no you see what you want . and I love how you say it's not open for debate when in fact NO ONE was claiming Ronnie's back as anywhere near the best ever in 1996 and now you're re-writing history lol
yawn, and then you wonder why people say you cannot read. ::)
Ronnie's back is thicker in your comparison.
look at the shadows in your pic, dipshit.
no, I see what's in the pic. Ronnie's back is thicker.
that's 3 times now I said Ronnie's back is thicker in the pic you posted. Nowhere did I claim that Ronnie had a better back in 96. I see what's in the pic unlike you who closes his eyes and regurgitates what he reads.
what criteria and I using? for muscle thickness? depth , size and length of all of the back muscles equal the thicker back of the two
now say that using proper grammar, you illiterate baboon.
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You're fucking high if you think he surpasses this in thickness among the dumbest things you've ever typed in your GetBig history
night & day Thickness , Density , Detail and width NO CONTEST Dorian is vastly superior
Bad example Ronnie isn't finished with the pose and hasn't spread his lats out all the way.
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Ronnie is fully posed here and looking like an infant next to Yates. Yates' back development is light years better. Ronnie has NO lower back development. Dorian's back is incredibly wider, thicker, and more defined.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251730.0;attach=292568;image)
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Ronnie is fully posed here and looking like an infant next to Yates. Yates' back development is light years better. Ronnie has NO lower back development. Dorian's back is incredibly wider, thicker, and more defined.
here's another shot from the same contest, you dipshit. What makes more sense? Ronnie isn't fully flexing in your pic or his back magically shrunk? ;)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251730.0;attach=292476;image)
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yawn, and then you wonder why people say you cannot read. ::)
that's 3 times now I said Ronnie's back is thicker in the pic you posted. Nowhere did I claim that Ronnie had a better back in 96. I see what's in the pic unlike you who closes his eyes and regurgitates what he reads.
now say that using proper grammar, you illiterate baboon.
Ohhh someone is getting testy lol I can read I told you before I don't hang onto your every word
and three times now I told you you're high if you think Ronnie's back is thicker . again you see what you want.
and I'm not illiterate. I have a bad habit of multi-tasking and get distracted easily again I don't hang on your every word kid you got the gist of it . you're getting desperate again
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Ronnie is fully posed here and looking like an infant next to Yates. Yates' back development is light years better. Ronnie has NO lower back development. Dorian's back is incredibly wider, thicker, and more defined.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251730.0;attach=292568;image)
right on the money and that's how Ronnie does is back double biceps shot , the difference in lat length , wdith and pure size is night & day , the thickness of Dorian's spinal erectors is in another league , the size , length and thickness of the traps is insane and the depth , detail and size of the teres & infraspinatus is before & after , Ronnie doesn't compare in the back department not in thickness , size , detail , width
there is NO debate
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Ronnie is fully posed here and looking like an infant next to Yates. Yates' back development is light years better. Ronnie has NO lower back development. Dorian's back is incredibly wider, thicker, and more defined.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251730.0;attach=292568;image)
Sorry, this is wrong. For one, again, Ronnie is not fully posed, it's quite clear he's not and saying he is isn't giving your argument credence, it's just showing that you're grasping for straws. Secondly, Colemans spine is clearly much more arched pinching his lower lats and flaring his upper back more than Yates so again your comment about his lower back is invalid, especially when you look at other photos from the same contest. There are obvious aspects of Dorian's back which are correct, such as the condition in the rhomboids being superior to Coleman, but saying "it's light years ahead" is just biased conjecture.
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here's another shot from the same contest, you dipshit. What makes more sense? Ronnie isn't fully flexing in your pic or his back magically shrunk? ;)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251730.0;attach=292476;image)
meltdown ;)
You prefer a blurry image from a mile away instead of a direct comparison up close showing Coleman being murdered.
And yet you can't even explain how Coleman finished behind Ray ;)
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meltdown ;)
You prefer a blurry image from a mile away instead of a direct comparison up close showing Coleman being murdered.
And yet you can't even explain how Coleman finished behind Ray ;)
Heath was obviously superior to Cutler this year but finished behind him, same thing. It's called paying your dues and Coleman was an up and commer while Ray had been chomping at the bit for much longer.
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its funny how the nuthuggers are intent on using a 1996 Ronnie in their comparisons.. ::)
should we start comparing Ronnie to a 1990 dorian yates?
::)
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Bad example Ronnie isn't finished with the pose and hasn't spread his lats out all the way.
That's how Ronnie does his back double biceps shot
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its funny how the nuthuggers are intent on using a 1996 Ronnie in their comparisons.. ::)
should we start comparing Ronnie to a 1990 dorian yates?
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LMFAO You made a GetBig career out of posting slanted comparisons , it's not like you'd be doing anything out of the norm
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That's Ronnie's back double biceps shot , that's how he does it
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Ha ha ha ha his back looks better in 1996 than 2001
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That's how Ronnie does his back double biceps shot
I know how he does it and anyone who's seen 2 pics of his back double bi can recognize he's not fully posed. He always flares the teres majors out and in this pic they are still retracted.
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Sorry, this is wrong. For one, again, Ronnie is not fully posed, it's quite clear he's not and saying he is isn't giving your argument credence, it's just showing that you're grasping for straws. Secondly, Colemans spine is clearly much more arched pinching his lower lats and flaring his upper back more than Yates so again your comment about his lower back is invalid, especially when you look at other photos from the same contest. There are obvious aspects of Dorian's back which are correct, such as the condition in the rhomboids being superior to Coleman, but saying "it's light years ahead" is just biased conjecture.
The bottom line is that the above pose by Coleman is the way he always hit his back double bi. Even at his near best, the 01ASC, you can see a serious lack of width and lower back development.
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ronnie-coleman-2001-arnold-classic/32.jpg)
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Ohhh someone is getting testy lol I can read I told you before I don't hang onto your every word
nah, I'm not testy - just bored talking to a simpleton like you. And not being able to put together words you read in order to understand sentences is the definition of reading illiteracy. ;)
and three times now I told you you're high if you think Ronnie's back is thicker . again you see what you want.
and 3 times now you have made yourself look like a fool. The pic clearly shows Ronnie's back has more thickness. Shadows in bodybuilding convey depth of the muscles, and Ronnie's back has more shadows. You cannot refute this so you keep creating strawmans.
and I'm not illiterate. I have a bad habit of multi-tasking and get distracted easily again I don't hang on your every word kid you got the gist of it . you're getting desperate again
silly me, of course you're not illiterate! You just have trouble reading and understanding sentences. ::)
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The bottom line is that the above pose by Coleman is the way he always hit his back double bi. Even at his near best, the 01ASC, you can see a serious lack of width and lower back development.
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/ronnie-coleman-2001-arnold-classic/32.jpg)
It is how he does his pose , they act like he he attempted the pose like Yates suddenly his back would be wider that's just not going to happen and the thickness is night & day even entertaining the width was the same or greater
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That's how Ronnie does his back double biceps shot
what drugs are you smoking?
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/99%20Mr%20Olympia/99MrO-Ronnie9.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/01%20ASC/2001ASC-RonnieColeman56.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/03%20Mr%20Olympia/RonnieColeman13.jpg)
yeah, that's how he "does his back double biceps." ::)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251730.0;attach=292584;image)
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Heath was obviously superior to Cutler this year but finished behind him, same thing. It's called paying your dues and Coleman was an up and commer while Ray had been chomping at the bit for much longer.
Paying your dues is a euphemism for politics, which you're admitting. Coleman was already dominating the keg well before Ronnie peaked.
Here the keg having his ass handed to him by Nasser.
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Heath was obviously superior to Cutler this year but finished behind him, same thing. It's called paying your dues and Coleman was an up and commer while Ray had been chomping at the bit for much longer.
Jay has much more muscularity and muscle maturity than Health. I believe he was actually in 3rd or 4th going into the finals and then tightened up on Saturday. If I recall correctly, Ronnie lost the entire prejudging in 2001 and then somehow came back to win, even with an illegal posing routine. Remember, the same judges judging Coleman judged Yates. The fact that Shawn's placings were never questioned leads me to believe even more that the hatred towards Dorian is because of his background or racism. People also love to hate the guy that works the hardest and takes all the marbles. The above picture clearly shows how small Shawn was and even though he had great condition, he had no size. The best BBs are the ones with the combo of condition and size.
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nah, I'm not testy - just bored talking to a simpleton like you. And not being able to put together words you read in order to understand sentences is the definition of reading illiteracy. ;)
and 3 times now you have made yourself look like a fool. The pic clearly shows Ronnie's back has more thickness. Shadows in bodybuilding convey depth of the muscles, and Ronnie's back has more shadows. You cannot refute this so you keep creating strawmans.
silly me, of course you're not illiterate! You just have trouble reading and understanding sentences. ::)
nah, I'm not testy - just bored talking to a simpleton like you. And not being able to put together words you read in order to understand sentences is the definition of reading illiteracy. ;)
no you get testy after I own you , you get all emo and start name calling and personal attacks I've noticed that about you and you got the gist of it you're just looking for angle
and 3 times now you have made yourself look like a fool. The pic clearly shows Ronnie's back has more thickness. Shadows in bodybuilding convey depth of the muscles, and Ronnie's back has more shadows. You cannot refute this so you keep creating strawmans.
my ass strawman ::) yeah because the size of Dorian's traps in direct comparison to Ronnie's isn't really that big ha ha ha the thickness & size of his lats same thing , Ronnie's back has more shadows so it's thicker ???? why do you type? why do you commit to such lunacy? seriously? forgot the physical size of the back muscles that means nothing in determining thickness it's just the shadows lol more classic Neo-babble you forgot different angles as well nice try through
silly me, of course you're not illiterate! You just have trouble reading and understanding sentences. ::)
wrong again , I've always scored exceptionally high on comprehension tests ;)
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Jay has much more muscularity and muscle maturity than Health. I believe he was actually in 3rd or 4th going into the finals and then tightened up on Saturday. If I recall correctly, Ronnie lost the entire prejudging in 2001 and then somehow came back to win, even with an illegal posing routine. Remember, the same judges judging Coleman judged Yates. The fact that Shawn's placings were never questioned leads me to believe even more that the hatred towards Dorian is because of his background or racism. People also love to hate the guy that works the hardest and takes all the marbles. The above picture clearly shows how small Shawn was and even though he had great condition, he had no size. The best BBs are the ones with the combo of condition and size.
Meltdown LOL he doesn't want to admit politics aka "paying your dues" haha
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I know how he does it and anyone who's seen 2 pics of his back double bi can recognize he's not fully posed. He always flares the teres majors out and in this pic they are still retracted.
Details details! haahaha
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what drugs are you smoking?
yeah, that's how he "does his back double biceps." ::)
with the exception of the 2003 all the other pics are the same shot for Ronnie , he never improved his posing old news
his back in 1996 wasn't thicker and it wouldn't be getting wider even if he tried to pose like Dorian
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Meltdown LOL he doesn't want to admit politics aka "paying your dues" haha
Explain 2001 bitch...Ronnie lost the entire prejudging aka the entire show ;)
Try real hard little man, I look forward to your response hahahah
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Explain 2001 bitch...Ronnie lost the entire prejudging aka the entire show ;)
Try real hard little man, I look forward to your response hahahah
No the only politics was when Dorian competed all of Ronnie's wins were deserved and the judging someone became accurate lol epic hypocrisy
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what drugs are you smoking?
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/99%20Mr%20Olympia/99MrO-Ronnie9.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/01%20ASC/2001ASC-RonnieColeman56.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/03%20Mr%20Olympia/RonnieColeman13.jpg)
yeah, that's how he "does his back double biceps." ::)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251730.0;attach=292584;image)
Do a Tony Freeman comparison on the 2nd pic.
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Jay has much more muscularity and muscle maturity than Health. I believe he was actually in 3rd or 4th going into the finals and then tightened up on Saturday.
Last time I checked "muscle maturity" wasn't a judging criteria. Muscularity is irrelevant if your lines are destroyed and your condition is shit. Heath bested Cutler in every area minus overall size which should have put him ahead of Cutler in anyones books. The fact is no judge is going to put a first timer ahead of a reigning champion. That's the only reason why he placed behind Cutler.
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Just look at Colemans lower traps, they are PINCHED together and his scapula's are retracted clearly showing he's not in the pose yet.
I don't see how anyone can even argue this point, it's so fucking obvious it's not even funny. And I'm a fan of both of those guys, as I've stated numerous times before, but it's not even an argument.
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I don't see how anyone can even argue this point, it's so fucking obvious it's not even funny.
you realize you are arguing with ND and Co, people who are maintaining that a pic of dorian yates with Tom Platz's quads and brian buchanan's waistline is real...just to suit their agenda... ::)
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Sorry, this is wrong. For one, again, Ronnie is not fully posed, it's quite clear he's not and saying he is isn't giving your argument credence, it's just showing that you're grasping for straws. Secondly, Colemans spine is clearly much more arched pinching his lower lats and flaring his upper back more than Yates so again your comment about his lower back is invalid, especially when you look at other photos from the same contest. There are obvious aspects of Dorian's back which are correct, such as the condition in the rhomboids being superior to Coleman, but saying "it's light years ahead" is just biased conjecture.
you just lost all credibility when you said "condition in the rhomboids being superior to Coleman"
it was a good attempt though.
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you just lost all credibility when you said "condition in the rhomboids being superior to Coleman"
it was a good attempt though.
Epic trapezius failure.
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Last time I checked "muscle maturity" wasn't a judging criteria. Muscularity is irrelevant if your lines are destroyed and your condition is shit. Heath bested Cutler in every area minus overall size which should have put him ahead of Cutler in anyones books. The fact is no judge is going to put a first timer ahead of a reigning champion. That's the only reason why he placed behind Cutler.
If you can't see the difference in density and thickness here you must be blind. Mr. Olympia Dexter Jackson is actually not fairing well in this comparison at all.
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/46225-4/2008-mr-olympia-108.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=e53500bf89edb1014dc4251642a7781b)
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you just lost all credibility when you said "condition in the rhomboids being superior to Coleman"
it was a good attempt though.
do you work in the medical field?
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Do a Tony Freeman comparison on the 2nd pic.
sorry, bro. I don't have any pics of Tony Freeman.
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Just look at Colemans lower traps, they are PINCHED together and his scapula's are retracted clearly showing he's not in the pose yet.
I don't see how anyone can even argue this point, it's so fucking obvious it's not even funny. And I'm a fan of both of those guys, as I've stated numerous times before, but it's not even an argument.
The beauty of mental retardation is that the nonsensical actually makes sense to ND. He's been desperately resorting to that pic for ages in effectual rebutals to shots like this. Coleman's lat superiority is evident.
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No the only politics was when Dorian competed all of Ronnie's wins were deserved and the judging someone became accurate lol epic hypocrisy
This moron can't even admit to rampant politics, because it's too closely allied to some of his hero's "wins" hahahaa
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do you work in the medical field?
student.
i was just screwing around with him. :D
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student.
i was just screwing around with him.
ah, I see. You were technically correct since the rhomboids are deep to the trapezius muscles. I was pre-med in college. I'm starting physician assistant school next year.
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ah, I see. You were technically correct since the rhomboids are deep to the trapezius muscles. I was pre-med in college. I'm starting physician assistant school next year.
Oh yes, that's why according to you, everyone in the industry should discontinue using terminology as to where the lats "insert" in favor of lat "origins". LMFAO
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Oh yes, that's why according to you, everyone in the industry should discontinue using the term "lat insertions", in favor of "lat origins". LMFAO
explain how mocking your own ignorance is funny. ???
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ah, I see. You were technically correct since the rhomboids are deep to the trapezius muscles. I was pre-med in college. I'm starting physician assistant school next year.
im in year two of my medical degree, i hope to do both MD and ND and run a multi-disciplinary clinic, its more interactive and exciting from my experience.
The rhomboids are not visible, i was just busting his balls. I see alot of people make that mistake, for some reason rhomboids is a favorite muscle group in bodybuilding circles. Second only to the infamous rotatores :D
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explain how mocking your own ignorance is funny. ???
No, it's funny when someone such as yourself ridicules the usage of a term that is standard throughout the industry and routinely used by the most prominent bodybuilding scribes, so as to try make yourself appear intellectual. And failing miserably I might add. lol But like I said before Neo, if you want to refer to them as lat "originations", or whatever, knock yourself out. I'm sure there has to be at least one person out there that will be impressed. Hey, maybe Huckster will be impressed. It doesn't seem to take much to impress him. LMFAO
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No, it's funny when someone such as yourself ridicules the usage of a term that is standard throughout the industry and routinely used by the most prominent bodybuilding scribes, so as to try make yourself appear intellectual. And failing miserably I might add. lol But like I said before Neo, if you want to refer to them as lat "originations", or whatever, knock yourself out. I'm sure there has to be at least one person out there that will be impressed. Hey, maybe Huckster will be impressed. It doesn't seem to take much to impress him. LMFAO
being stupid isn't fun, read a book.
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No, it's funny when someone such as yourself ridicules the usage of a term that is standard throughout the industry and routinely used by the most prominent bodybuilding scribes, so as to try make yourself appear intellectual. And failing miserably I might add. lol But like I said before Neo, if you want to refer to them as lat "originations", or whatever, knock yourself out. I'm sure there has to be at least one person out there that will be impressed. Hey, maybe Huckster will be impressed. It doesn't seem to take much to impress him. LMFAO
first, provide examples of all these prominent bodybuilding scribes you speak of. Show me quotes along with the sources of where they used the term "lat insertions." Second, I could care less if the improper usage of the term is standard throughout the bodybuilding industry. That still doesn't make it right, and trying to justify ignorance with strength in numbers only makes you look more foolish. Third, I don't refer to them as "lat origins." I say a person's lats "attach low," which is the usage I've frequently seen.
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Third, I don't refer to them as "lat origins." I say a person's lats "attach low," which is the usage I've frequently seen.
By the way, you meant to say his lats originate - not insert- lower. For someone who tries to come across as intelligent, you should at least educate yourself about anatomy terminology before judging physiques. ;)
You illustrated that you can't intelligently debate the issue at hand, so you made a feeble attempt at trying to appear intellectual by splitting hairs with accepted bodybuilding terminology. And if you'll refer to the above quote, you were the one who arrogantly proclaimed that I should use the term "originate". Don't back peddle Neo, you're owned again.. . You can use whatever terminology you wish Neo, but efforts on your part to convince anyone that you posses even a shred intellect, would be vastly contradicted by 99% of your posts. Why don't you marvel us with your intellect and show us a quote where there is a even a solitary reference to lat "origins" with regard to bodybuilding, if my terminology is so off base. You're the one ridiculing my initial statement of where the lats "insert", prove me wrong. Show me where any bodybuilding report has indicated where the lats "originate". You've got nothing as always. Your most recent contributions have been your repeated solicitations for other males to perform sex acts on you. How that somehow elevates the whole Ronnie vs Dorian debate, well, I guess only you can reconcile that.
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You illustrated that you can't intelligently debate the issue at hand, so you made a feeble attempt at trying to appear intellectual by splitting hairs with accepted terminology. And if you'll refer to the above quote, you were the one who arrogantly proclaimed that I should use the term "originate". You can use whatever terminology you wish Neo, but efforts on your part to convince anyone that you posses even a shred intellect, would be vastly contradicted by 99% of your posts. Your most recent contributions being your repeated solicitations for other males to perform sex acts on you. How that somehow elevates the whole Ronnie vs Dorian debate, well, I guess only you can reconcile that.
so you admit that you can't back up your claim about prominent bodybuilding scribes using the term "lat insertions?" You also concede the usage you defend is wrong? Gotcha. To answer your post, I have demonstrated numerous times I can intelligently debate. I tend to take a less serious tone when I post in the gossip section. Check the religious board for better examples. As for splitting hairs, it may seem that way to ignorant fools but the difference between muscle origin and insertion is common knowledge to anyone who has studied anatomy.
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Message by Shawn Perine Senior Writer Flex Magazine - Ironage.us
Rumor is that he has a myostatin disorder. If this is true then he doesn't need steroids. I've seen him in person and I would tend to believe the rumors, although a muscle biopsy or chemical analysis of his blood would be definitive. He's got some strange proportions and unbelievable insertions.
Ask Mr. O: Build Your Back - Flex online
Written by: Ronnie Coleman (Neo's Hero), six-time Mr. Olympia
ONE-ARM DUMBBELL ROWS
If you keep your body stationary for these, so that your upper body doesn't roll from one side to the other, you can isolate any increment along your outer lat and thicken it; by bringing the dumbbell as high as you can, you also bring out detail at the inner insertions.
Chad Nicholls 2002 Olympia Report (on Dexter Jackson) : "his lats are a little high which makes for a longer torso, but his muscle insertions tie in so well and look so good
Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT by NarcissisticDeity
... would never be as big as Dorians , his lats would never insert as low as Dorians , ...
... the have the same length torsos lol and lats and calves
Dorian is just 7 pounds ...
Re: 1993 - best ever! by suckmymuscle
... , creating better proportions. Dorian's lats also insert lower.
Re: What MemberX used to be by MemberX
... on November 21, 2008, 05:33:02 PM
Lats are wider and insert lower at middle of ...
Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce by Bear
... arms, greater shoulder width and wider lats that insert lower.
Re: Robert Piotrkowicz's first pro debut --New Zealand Elite Pro by RZA
... but covers it up pretty good as his lats seem to insert low and they're wide. ...
Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ?? by Hulkster
... bones and the point where the muscles insert in the tendom don't change as you get ...
Re: need to work biceps after heavy back workout ? by SamoanIrishman
...
you should tryyour best to isolate your lats during backday exercises. i am to the ...
... arms as just a link between where your lats insert under your shoulder/top of the ...
Re: King Kamali This is as good as it gets !! by NotMrAverage
... how low his lats insert in that first pic, that seems to ...
Re: It's Between Henry & LEE. Henry is more ripped! Henry is your True Ironman C by rocket
... lower back, i think it's that he his lats have high insertions.
His lats insert ...
Re: DJ 2.5 weeks out by Overload
... exercises to make it appear that his lats insert lower and he needs to burn ...
Re: Lewis Yates by Shockwave
... traps ! and x-mass tree
Yep, and the lats insert near his waist. Same chest ...
Re: Dennis Wolf by donrhummy
... O. Secondly he has dookie arms and high lats that DO insert high.
Re: RONNIE BEATS ME, quote from Dorian Yates by Double XL™
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again..the shape of the dorian back...lats insert MUCH lower..personally i like ...
Re: Dorian Pic from 92 by LuciusFox
... the traps , and detail , look at Yates' lats they insert at his waist and he has the ...
Re: I`ll take on Arvilla, Alexxx and Goudy for the first Getbig physique Cont by shiftedShapes
... mindspin you shouldn't make fun of his lats. They insert high and until genetic ...
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=231056.0
Nope, nobody refers to where the lats "insert". I must have just made it up. lol Pretty hard to ridicule someone for the use of a term common in bodybuilding circles, on a bodybuilding board no less. But you did try, and fail. You acted as though nobody used the term. Oh, I know, unless Ben Weider used it, it doesn't count, right? Funny, I have yet to see a bodybuilding quote in reference to someone's lat "origins". lol Poor Neo, he tries so very hard to come across as bright, but all to no avail. Neo=Owned.
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Yup, nobody refers to where the lats "insert". I must have just made it up. lol Neo=Owned
I asked you to provide examples of these bodybuilding scribes you speak of and you quote me Getbig posters? Yeah, you "owned" me alright. ::)
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I have it on good authority that Dorian and Ronnie are one and the same person
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Re: 3 Best Backs in the HISTORY OF THE SPORT by NarcissisticDeity
... would never be as big as Dorians , his lats would never insert as low as Dorians , ...
... the have the same length torsos lol and lats and calves
Dorian is just 7 pounds ...
Re: 1993 - best ever! by suckmymuscle
... , creating better proportions. Dorian's lats also insert lower.
Re: What MemberX used to be by MemberX
... on November 21, 2008, 05:33:02 PM
Lats are wider and insert lower at middle of ...
Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce by Bear
... arms, greater shoulder width and wider lats that insert lower.
Re: Robert Piotrkowicz's first pro debut --New Zealand Elite Pro by RZA
... but covers it up pretty good as his lats seem to insert low and they're wide. ...
Re: Sergio Vs Ronnie - WHO WINS ?? by Hulkster
... bones and the point where the muscles insert in the tendom don't change as you get ...
Re: need to work biceps after heavy back workout ? by SamoanIrishman
...
you should tryyour best to isolate your lats during backday exercises. i am to the ...
... arms as just a link between where your lats insert under your shoulder/top of the ...
Re: King Kamali This is as good as it gets !! by NotMrAverage
... how low his lats insert in that first pic, that seems to ...
Re: It's Between Henry & LEE. Henry is more ripped! Henry is your True Ironman C by rocket
... lower back, i think it's that he his lats have high insertions.
His lats insert ...
Re: DJ 2.5 weeks out by Overload
... exercises to make it appear that his lats insert lower and he needs to burn ...
Re: Lewis Yates by Shockwave
... traps ! and x-mass tree
Yep, and the lats insert near his waist. Same chest ...
Re: Dennis Wolf by donrhummy
... O. Secondly he has dookie arms and high lats that DO insert high.
Re: RONNIE BEATS ME, quote from Dorian Yates by Double XL™
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again..the shape of the dorian back...lats insert MUCH lower..personally i like ...
Re: Dorian Pic from 92 by LuciusFox
... the traps , and detail , look at Yates' lats they insert at his waist and he has the ...
Re: I`ll take on Arvilla, Alexxx and Goudy for the first Getbig physique Cont by shiftedShapes
... mindspin you shouldn't make fun of his lats. They insert high and until genetic ...
Chad Nicholls 2002 Olympia Report (on Dexter Jackson) : "his lats are a little high which makes for a longer torso, but his muscle insertions tie in so well and look so good
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=231056.0
Yup, nobody refers to where the lats "insert". I must have just made it up. lol Neo=Owned
why are you defending the patently false position. They are all wrong and all ignorant apparently. However, it is just a matter of education in anatomy, no big deal. I just can't figure out why you are so passionate about proving you are willingly ignorant.
unless you just hate neo. :D
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i like dorian but he is nowhere close to coleman...
i really dont understand how anyone could put dorian anywhere close to ronnie i mean look at the pics
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i like dorian but he is nowhere close to coleman...
i really dont understand how anyone could put dorian anywhere close to ronnie i mean look at the pics
dorian was white...
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like i always say have a best bodypart cartegory dorin could be only mentioned in one back
coleman can be mentioned in arms delts back legs chest....
he just has waaay more knock out bodyparst than dorian superior genes by a country mile better muscle shape vascularity
... its not even debatable...
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dorian was white...
What are you saying?
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i like dorian but he is nowhere close to coleman...
i really dont understand how anyone could put dorian anywhere close to ronnie i mean look at the pics
you have to remember: the dorian nuthuggers not only try and discredit all the pics, they don't understand the sport or how its judged either..
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like i always say have a best bodypart cartegory dorin could be only mentioned in one back
coleman can be mentioned in arms delts back legs chest....
he just has waaay more knock out bodyparst than dorian superior genes by a country mile better muscle shape vascularity
... its not even debatable...
very true.
I mean, you take the best dorian ever had to offer (the 93 pre tear black and white shots) and ronnie STILL crushes them:
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you have to remember: the dorian nuthuggers not only try and discredit all the pics, they don't understand the sport or how its judged either..
This post is too ironic for words. Hulkster has reached a new low in shamelessness. :-X
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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serously....
dorian....
some people take the fanboy mentality to another level so it blinds them to reality
does
arms ronnie
back ronnie
delts ronnie
legs ronnie
pecs ronnie
calves dorian
nd is an intelligent fellow.
s
but to say dorian has better arms than ronnie is absurd...
which list or article of greatest arms in history have you ever heard dorians name mentioned in....
or greatest legs...
or greatest chest
or even delts
cmon.... ::)
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serously....
dorian....
some people take the fanboy mentality to another level so it blinds them to reality
does
arms ronnie
back ronnie
delts ronnie
legs ronnie
pecs ronnie
calves dorian
nd is an intelligent fellow.
s
but to say dorian has better arms than ronnie is absurd...
which list or article of greatest arms in history have you ever heard dorians name mentioned in....
or greatest legs...
or greatest chest
or even delts
cmon.... ::)
the dorian nuthuggers are not the brightest bunch.
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serously....
dorian....
some people take the fanboy mentality to another level so it blinds them to reality
does
arms ronnie
back ronnie
delts ronnie
legs ronnie
pecs ronnie
calves dorian
nd is an intelligent fellow.
s
but to say dorian has better arms than ronnie is absurd...
which list or article of greatest arms in history have you ever heard dorians name mentioned in....
or greatest legs...
or greatest chest
or even delts
cmon.... ::)
FOREARMS and TRICEPS Dorian's are better not bigger please pay attention better and you can't try and add up all parts that's not how it works it's who has the better whole and we know who that is
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lol owned
Hulkster doesn't know the first thing about competitive bodybuilding and neither does Neoseminole or pumpster or iceman/Bizzy , Kevin Horton corrected him just the other day lol Hulkster never recovered
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;D DORIAN met RON on stage there HULK 1 And was judged better on several occasions ! So now you know more about judging then the judges ????? ;) case closed !
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i mean ronnnie is my fav bber
but no way would i say he was more symetrical than shwan
just because he's my fav bber
or flex....
but overall he was better because he carried more mass and was denser.. thicker freakier
while having good symetry but not as good as shawns ..
i am a coleman fan and i can be subjective and give credit where its dure
suck mymuscle england1 and ND
all seem totally delusional when it comes to dorian...
well ok nd loves to quote bbing magazines
i challenge any of them to quote me an article
where dorian was even mentioned in a greatest arm article ::)
or i challenge of them to say dorian has been mentioned in more ... greatest bodypart... articles than coleman...
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in fact this whole dorian vs coleman thing is silly there are a lot of bodybuilders between dorian and coleman
namely flex kevin dillet...one could even throw nasser in there all superior to dorian
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FOREARMS and TRICEPS Dorian's are better not bigger please pay attention better and you can't try and add up all parts that's not how it works it's who has the better whole and we know who that is
nd answer this question yes or no
has dorian been mentioned in more greatest arm articles than ronnie
one word..
YES/b] .. or NO
please
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lol owned
Hulkster doesn't know the first thing about competitive bodybuilding and neither does Neoseminole or pumpster or iceman/Bizzy , Kevin Horton corrected him just the other day lol Hulkster never recovered
8) And its ammusing how they ironiclly call anyone who thinks DORIAN is better FANBOYS ! Even tho DORIAN PROVED it several times ! :D
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i mean ronnnie is my fav bber
but no way would i say he was more symetrical than shwan
just because he's my fav bber
or flex....
but overall he was better because he carried more mass and was denser.. thicker freakier
while having good symetry but not as good as shawns ..
i am a coleman fan and i can be subjective and give credit where its dure
suck mymuscle england1 and ND
all seem totally delusional when it comes to dorian...
well ok nd loves to quote bbing magazines
i challenge any of them to quote me an article
where dorian was even mentioned in a greatest arm article ::)
or i challenge of them to say dorian has been mentioned in more ... greatest bodypart... articles than coleman...
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in fact this whole dorian vs coleman thing is silly there are a lot of bodybuilders between dorian and coleman
namely flex kevin dillet...one could even throw nasser in there all superior to dorian
Peter McGough Ironage Oct 13 , 2007
Who had the best forearms you ever seen : Best forearms I have seen with my own peepers. not in order: Kaz, Dorian Yates, Gunnar Rosbo, Lee Priest, Phil Heath, Armin Shultz, Flex Lewis. ;)
and stop trying to add up parts that's not how bodybuilding is judged it doesn't matter Ronnie is Ronnie's arms are bigger and or better what matters is how does his side triceps compare to Dorians? it doesn't
Ronnie may have the better thighs but how about a better ab-thigh shot? NO
and you're spoken like a true fan-boy no one was better than Dorian according to the judges no one if you say the judging sucks then no contest you ever agreed with is right either
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nd answer this question yes or no
has dorian been mentioned in more greatest arm articles than ronnie
one word..
YES/b] .. or NO
please
NO does it matter? NO
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NO does it matter? NO
yes it does, because its quite clear he doesn't belong there..
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8) And its ammusing how they ironiclly call anyone who thinks DORIAN is better FANBOYS ! Even tho DORIAN PROVED it several times ! :D
The judging is wrong only when Yates won , but it was totally accurate when Ronnie won lol great logic
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Thank you
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you keep quoting all these magazines....
peter mcgough etc etc to favour your arguments
do those quotes matter
yes or no
one word please?
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And its ammusing how they ironiclly call anyone who thinks DORIAN is better FANBOYS ! Even tho DORIAN PROVED it several times
so did everyone else on the pro roster. they all beat ronnie back then.
does that mean they all would beat him at his peak?
you tell me..
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yes it does, because its quite clear he doesn't belong there..
Keep posting your fantasy comparisons made by biased nutt-huggers , Ronnie and his great biceps could never touch Dorian while they were competing , his arms were useless every single year he lost to Dorian by your own admission everyone had better arms than Dorian yet NONE of they managed to beat him , what does that tell you sport?
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so did everyone else on the pro roster. they all beat ronnie back then.
does that mean they all would beat him at his peak?
you tell me..
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Ronnie couldn't beat Dorian where did he improve? he gained more size and improved his conditioning , Dorian wrote the book on conditioned mass so he gains nothing
peak Ronnie didn't crush Flex Wheeler in 1998 , Dorian trampled Flex at his best in 1993 lol just 3 points Ronnie won by lol Dorian was so dominant in 1993 they didn't need him in the muscularity round lol
peak Ronnie would get beat with ease
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Keep posting your fantasy comparisons made by biased nutt-huggers , Ronnie and his great biceps could never touch Dorian while they were competing , his arms were useless every single year he lost to Dorian by your own admission everyone had better arms than Dorian yet NONE of they managed to beat him , what does that tell you sport?
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you just criticized someone for breaking up the body into parts and you are doing the same fucking thing!
what the fuck is wrong with you?
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Ronnie couldn't beat Dorian where did he improve? he gained more size and improved his conditioning , Dorian wrote the book on conditioned mass so he gains nothing
someone should tell dorian he needs to revise his book... ::)
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you just criticized someone for breaking up the body into parts and you are doing the same fucking thing!
what the fuck is wrong with you?
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Oh jesus you're stupid , NO I didn't , I didn't try and say " This part and this part and this part is better , so there for he's better "
mandatory poses win contests not one or two bodyparts
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peak Ronnie would get beat with ease
by who? not dorian.
his best ever presentation gets crushed:
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someone should tell dorian he needs to revise his book... ::)
lmfao you're posting a ' comparison ' made by one of your biased comrades that's not reality that fantasy
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FOREARMS and TRICEPS Dorian's are better not bigger please pay attention better and you can't try and add up all parts that's not how it works it's who has the better whole and we know who that is
Learn some anatomy, you're clearly deficient there. Triceps are a draw at best, Coleman's were about twice the size of the keg's. The keg's only good triceps shot is with arm pressed against side, distorting the true size.
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mandatory poses win contests not one or two bodyparts
yes, and dorian's "best ever" best mandatory pose gets killed.
what now?
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by who? not dorian.
his best ever presentation gets crushed:
By the same guy who beat him everytime before that's who , the guy that destroyed Flex and the guy who just barely beat Flex lol
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suck mymuscle england1 and ND
all seem totally delusional when it comes to dorian...
well ok nd loves to quote bbing magazines
i challenge any of them to quote me an article
where dorian was even mentioned in a greatest arm article ::)
or i challenge of them to say dorian has been mentioned in more ... greatest bodypart... articles than coleman...
:-\
in fact this whole dorian vs coleman thing is silly there are a lot of bodybuilders between dorian and coleman
namely flex kevin dillet...one could even throw nasser in there all superior to dorian
Bingo. See the thing is, none of those guys understand anatomy nor even lift dude, do you ever see them on the training board LOL
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Learn some anatomy, you're clearly deficient there. Triceps are a draw at best, Coleman's were about twice the size of the keg's. The keg's only good triceps shot is with arm pressed against side, distorting the true size.
You're posting a picture from a contest where he tore the tricep , another cleat example of your bias and desperation
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Bingo. See the thing is, none of those guys understand anatomy nor even lift dude, do you ever see them on the training board LOL
You don't lift what are you talking about? this ain't lifting sport
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You're posting a picture from a contest where he tore the tricep , another cleat example of your bias and desperation
Actually that's an accurate representation of his triceps size when not pressed against the side. Learn some anatomy. Here's another:
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lmfao you're posting a ' comparison ' made by one of your biased comrades that's not reality that fantasy
and I suppose you think the dorian-platz-buchanan pic is real LOL
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check the quad sweep buddy:
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yes, and dorian's "best ever" best mandatory pose gets killed.
what now?
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Not even close , not by a country mile , Dorian is just as heavy , 20X harder & drier has better balance & proportion and is more complete
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You don't lift what are you talking about? this ain't lifting sport
That's equipment you idiot of course it looks foreign to you you don't lift bwahahahaha
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Actually that's an accurate representation of his triceps side when not pressed against the side. Here's another:
Ha ha ha ha accurate because you say so ::) again his worse year thanks for playing " I'm a biased ignorant desperate fan-boy "
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Pumpster working the Bowflex. lol
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That's equipment you idiot hahahahaha
You bend you don't life , I use free weights ;)
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Pumpster working the Bowflex. lol
he once challenged me to a BoxFlex Bench off LMFAO claiming I couldn't bench 400lbs of resistance lol what a tool
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You bend you don't life , I use free weights ;)
Pics or it didn't happen bigmouth ROFL
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lmfao you're posting a ' comparison ' made by one of your biased comrades that's not reality that fantasy
yeah, its such a biased comparison
ronnie's shapely rock hard and vascular muscle really doesn't destroy the doughy detailess blobs that dorian is displaying
that left arm is atrocious, and its PRE tear lol
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Not even close , not by a country mile , Dorian is just as heavy , 20X harder & drier has better balance & proportion and is more complete
lol you are using the morphed quad shot for your comparisons now LOL
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you have hit a new low.
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Learn some anatomy, you're clearly deficient there. Triceps are a draw at best, Coleman's were about twice the size of the keg's. The keg's only good triceps shot is with arm pressed against side, distorting the true size.
very true
ND
have you seen cost of redemption or unbelievable
colemans arm is a perfect circle
his tricep is so massive it looks like its falling off his elbow
and im not talking pumped im talkin when the dude is just making breakfast
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and im sure you have seen blood and guts you would compare those tris to colemans....
coleman arms look twice the size of dorians....
cmon now
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yeah, its such a biased comparison
ronnie's shapely rock hard and vascular muscle really doesn't destroy the doughy detailess blobs that dorian is displaying
that left arm is atrocious, and its PRE tear lol
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LMFAO iceman/Bizzy made that one too? and hey what's up with pumpster claiming your gimmick is Xfactor?
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very true
ND
have you seen cost of redemption or unbelievable
colemans arm is a perfect circle
his tricep is so massive it looks like its falling off his elbow
and im not talking pumped im talkin when the dude is just making breakfast
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and im sure you have seen blood and guts you would compare those tris to colemans....
coleman arms look twice the size of dorians....
cmon now
Meso these clowns don't even lift and definitely do NOT understand anatomy. ND's denials and subject changes to avoid reality are farcical, he's unintentionally hilarious.
This pic's great because even bozos who are illiterate in terms of anatomy can't deny the size difference...DUH
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lol you are using the morphed quad shot for your comparisons now LOL
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you have hit a new low.
Morphed? says YOU that pic is the original and just like this one after you see it cried " morphed " lol
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he once challenged me to a BoxFlex Bench off LMFAO claiming I couldn't bench 400lbs of resistance lol what a tool
Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder, but nobody wanna bend those power rods! lol
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very true
ND
have you seen cost of redemption or unbelievable
colemans arm is a perfect circle
his tricep is so massive it looks like its falling off his elbow
and im not talking pumped im talkin when the dude is just making breakfast
....
and im sure you have seen blood and guts you would compare those tris to colemans....
coleman arms look twice the size of dorians....
cmon now
I didn't say anything about size , stop hyperfoucing on that point , more to an arm than just size
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I didn't say anything about size , stop hyperfoucing on that point , more to an arm than just size
See meso, now this buffoon's claiming that size isn't important LOL
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Meso these clowns don't even lift and definitely do NOT understand anatomy.
More speculation on your behalf someone of us don't have to go on the training board and and try and defend the BowFlex
and I know anatomy more than you do , you keep posting shots of Dorian with a torn tricep as proof of how bad they are LMFAO
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Morphed? says YOU
obviously you have been abscent from the board the last few days. ::)
4 billion getbiggers have commented on that pic and all said the same thing.
its worked.
compare quads buddy: lol
its about as obvious as you can get.
oh, and before you cry its two different years LOL
note: every fucking hair on dorian's head is EXACTLY the same..
not to mention every single other aspect of the pic... ::)
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Ya, size means nothing in BB. You are a buffoon LOL
Great reading comprehension skills you dolt , I said there is more than size ALONE did you miss that part? ;)
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I'm getting sick of both sides, f**king morons, come to a conclusion already
good god, 5 year old kids would have came to a conclusion already
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More speculation on your behalf someone of us don't have to go on the training board and and try and defend the BowFlex
and I know anatomy more than you do , you keep posting shots of Dorian with a torn tricep as proof of how bad they are LMFAO
IN THAT CASE GET YOUR SKINNY ASS ON THE TRAINING FORUM TO SHARE SOME OF THE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE ON YOUR BOWFLEX HAHAAHAH
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obviously you have been abscent from the board the last few days.
4 billion getbiggers have commented on that pic and all said the same thing.
its worked.
compare quads buddy: lol
LMFAO here he goes everyone says so it must be true
RETARD the front double biceps pic is from 1994 the front latspread 1995 ONE year apart
4 billion getbiggers all said it's not shopped and he beats anything Ronnie has shown
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colamans are bigger and have better shape....
granted... in the side tri its not as defined as dorians....
in regards to the heads...
but murders him on size and shape thats 2 points to one nd....
cmon man
like u admitted dorian has never been in a greatest are article or list...
so does that not hold any weight
.. the same guys u keep quoting... from magazines are the same ones who can never leave coleman out of a greatest arm list..
so .. why quote them on one thing ..
and them not regard the other... :-\
.. cmon man....
;D
i put to you dorian had some of the worst arms during the 90's
shawn dillet nasser kevin flex baker....
to name a few PWNED him in the arm department so how you leap frogged dorian over all those guys to compare his arms to coleman is laughable
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RETARD the front double biceps pic is from 1994 the front latspread 1995 ONE year apart
yeah sure it is... ::)
are you that dumb?
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IN THAT CASE GET YOUR SKINNY ASS ON THE TRAINING FORUM TO SHARE SOME OF THE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE ON YOUR BOWFLEX HAHAAHAH
I never used the BowFlex , I would never use a BowFlex , they're useless for gaining any quality muscle when you show me a single professional bodybuilder who got his championship physique via BowFlex alone I'll entertain trying one until then I'll laugh at all the suckers who were duped by an infomercial , present company included
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STILL WAITING ON ND'S LIFTING PICS. WITHOUT PICS IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. ;) ;D
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yeah sure it is... ::)
are you that dumb?
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epic denial lol I just showed you the original front double biceps shot scanned from the magazine 1994 Horton's new pic 1995
what a backfire ;)
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look at the clear morph job of dorian's quads LOL
these pics are from the same shoot.
its clear as day - esp. the hair...
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STILL WAITING ON ND'S LIFTING PICS. WITHOUT PICS IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. ;) ;D
Keep waiting , I'll post my pics as soon as you post your Bowflex body ;)
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look at the clear morph job of dorian's quads LOL
these pics are from the same shoot.
its clear as day - esp. the hair...
Ha ha ha ha meltdown renaming the pic ' 1995 ' when I just proved to you it's NOT lmfao I called it before it happened that pic would cause many meltdowns
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that's a great shot, end of story
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The only response needed, to which the trolls have no answer. Game Over. Thanks for playing. Please try again.
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Those two pics are from the same shoot, there's no doubt about it. Just look at the pattern on the background in relation to his bodyparts, they match up EXACTLY, not to mention the lighting is EXACTLY the same. That's not going to happen putting someone in the exact same spot 1 year later and have the lighting exactly the same as well. So someone is mistaken about when that shot was taken because they're from the same shoot.
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Those two pics are from the same shoot, there's no doubt about it. Just look at the pattern on the background in relation to his bodyparts, they match up EXACTLY, not to mention the lighting is EXACTLY the same. That's not going to happen putting someone in the exact same spot 1 year later and have the lighting exactly the same as well. So someone is mistaken about when that shot was taken because they're from the same shoot.
see conspiracy .
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see conspiracy .
No conspiracy, just facts. Just look at the pattern in the background, it's exactly the same, lighting is exactly the same. That's not going to happen on 2 separate shoots 1 year apart. The background is a draped patterned sheet, quite a common piece to use in a photo shoot. It has to be hung up and placed on a frame to hold it in place. There's no way you're going to just happen to hang the drape EXACTLY the same way, down to the centimeter, as it was hung a year prior. Sorry, but that's impossible.
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In as much as the trolls attempt to belittle Dorian's physique, they must view him as a very credible threat to their hero. Why else would they put forth so much effort in bashing Dorian? If the new pic were really so unimpressive, as they would have people believe, the need to question the authenticity of it wouldn't be warranted. The reality, however, is that they know full well that the new pic blows Ronnie away. In failing to provide a substantive counter, they opt for the easy way out and make unsubstantiated claims of the photo having been altered. A chicken shit maneuver.
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No conspiracy, just facts. Just look at the pattern in the background, it's exactly the same, lighting is exactly the same. That's not going to happen on 2 separate shoots 1 year apart.
The backround is the same , who knew a photographer might have the same backround ::) lighting is not the same , the photographer said specifically the front latspread shot is from 1995 and I proved what year the front double biceps is from , you see the same backround and try and put two and two together not how it works
his hair in 1995 looks different , much shorter and lighter on the sides than the 1994 pic if it was the exact same lighting and the same shoot they'd look exactly the same and they don't
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In as much as the trolls attempt to belittle Dorian's physique, they must view him as a very credible threat to their hero. Why else would they put forth so much effort in bashing Dorian? If the new pic were really so unimpressive, as they would have people believe, the need to question the authenticity of it wouldn't be warranted. The reality, however, is that they know full well that the new pic blows Ronnie away. In failing to provide a substantive counter, they opt for the easy way out and make unsubstantiated claims of the photo having been altered. A chicken shit maneuver.
You're right , these guys brag and brag about how it's NO contest and Ronnie would destroy Dorian and they shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence together and we're all insane to think he would even stand a chance lol if that were the case the truce thread wouldn't be almost 1700 pages , they wouldn't follow me or anyone who types the word Dorian bashing him every shot they get , they know deep down Dorian is better and it kills them that their own hero said on multiple occasions he wouldn't beat Dorian lol they don;t get it , Ronnie does .
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The backround is the same , who knew a photographer might have the same backround ::) lighting is not the same , the photographer said specifically the front latspread shot is from 1995 and I proved what year the front double biceps is from , you see the same backround and try and put two and two together not how it works
his hair in 1995 looks different , much shorter and lighter on the sides than the 1994 pic if it was the exact same lighting and the same shoot they'd look exactly the same and they don't
Are you that dense? I'm not commenting about the background being the same, the PATTERN on the background is in the EXACT SAME position in both shots. Impossible to do with something that has to be hung manually and set up 1 year apart. Even if you were TRYING to make it look exactly the same matching the patterns position in relation to Yates it would VERY difficult if not impossible to do. The lighting is indeed exactly the same, you're confusing the sepia tone and the black and white tone with different lighting, that has nothing to do with it. The key, fill and bounce lights are all in the same position in both shots, there's no argument about that.
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:) :) :)
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I never used the BowFlex , I would never use a BowFlex , they're useless for gaining any quality muscle when you show me a single professional bodybuilder who got his championship physique via BowFlex alone I'll entertain trying one until then I'll laugh at all the suckers who were duped by an infomercial , present company included
Pics of U lifting otherwise it didn't happen ROFLMAO don't forget those training forum posts.
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Are you that dense? I'm not commenting about the background being the same, the PATTERN on the background is in the EXACT SAME position in both shots. Impossible to do with something that has to be hung manually and set up 1 year apart. Even if you were TRYING to make it look exactly the same matching the patterns position in relation to Yates it would VERY difficult if not impossible to do. The lighting is indeed exactly the same, you're confusing the sepia tone and the black and white tone with different lighting, that has nothing to do with it. The key, fill and bounce lights are all in the same position in both shots, there's no argument about that.
Sorry it doesn't look exactly the same to me ! and again you're implying Horton is lying about the pic and morphed it , you're reaching on both accounts
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Sorry it doesn't look exactly the same to me ! and again you're implying Horton is lying about the pic and morphed it , you're reaching on both accounts
I'm not saying he's lying, it was from a shoot from over 10 years ago, people make mistakes and don't always remember exactly the way things happened. Hell, ask me what I ate for dinner 2 weeks ago and I couldn't tell you.
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and again you're implying Horton is lying about the pic and morphed it
why are you always putting words in people's mouths? ??? ::)
Horton could simply be mistaken about the year (not lying intentially) and the pic could have been morphed by someone else (like those who work on bb.com)
because your truly an idiot if you think these quads are not morphed:
you should know dorian's physique by now.
we all do.
compare again: its quite clear.
the two shots are clearly from the same shoot. the hair, the trunks, the lighting, the shadows the background etc
its all EXACTLY the same. EXACTLY. read that again.
its really stupid to try and argue otherwise.
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if you look at the pattern that the draping makes, its even THE SAME by dorian's FEET for fuck's sake
you expect anyone to believe that happened BY CHANCE, 1 year apart?
please. you would have an easier time splitting the atom than to get that exactly the same 1 year later.
same with the hair.
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why are you always putting words in people's mouths? ??? ::)
Horton could simply be mistaken about the year (not lying intentially) and the pic could have been morphed by someone else (like those who work on bb.com)
because your truly an idiot if you think these quads are not morphed:
you should know dorian's physique by now.
we all do.
compare again: its quite clear.
the two shots are clearly from the same shoot. the hair, the trunks, the lighting, the shadows the background etc
its all EXACTLY the same. EXACTLY. read that again.
its really stupid to try and argue otherwise.
Dummy pay attention , he seen the pic , you claimed it was morphed he said it wasn't thats the end.
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Dummy pay attention , he seen the pic , you claimed it was morphed he said it wasn't thats the end.
he said HE did not morph it. big difference.
he did say once its on the web, anyone could do it.
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he said HE did not morph it. big difference.
he did say once its on the web, anyone could do it.
Any angle you can get you'll try it was HIS picture he gave it to bodybuilding.com he saw it YOU implied it was morphed he corrected you end of story
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Dummy pay attention , he seen the pic , you claimed it was morphed he said it wasn't thats the end.
are you not reading any of this?
are you not seeing the background pattern, lighting, hair, shadows, fuck even the texturing of dorian's skin is the same given the lighting..
you don't seem to understand..
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Any angle you can get you'll try it was HIS picture he gave it to bodybuilding.com he saw it YOU implied it was morphed he corrected you end of story
no, he didn't.
ps I love how you keeping saying I implied it was morphed, as if I am the only one..LOL
you idiots don't even know dorian's physique from a hole in the ground.
you should know that shot was morphed...
its more obvious than the back lat spread that gets plastered everywhere.. ::)
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no, he didn't.
ps I love how you keeping saying I implied it was morphed, as if I am the only one..LOL
you idiots don't even know dorian's physique from a hole in the ground.
you should know that shot was morphed...
its more obvious than the back lat spread that gets plastered everywhere.. ::)
all over but the crying
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check it out.
the shot is so morphed dorian 94 (no, not 95 lol) has bigger quads with more sweep than ronnie coleman 2003 lol
its so sad ND and Co. don't even know their own hero's physique as well as everyone else..
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all over but the crying
you don't understand english do you? ::)
kevin did not morph the pic. period.
that is not the issue.
the issue is that someone else has:
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check it out.
the shot is so morphed dorian 94 (no, not 95 lol) has bigger quads with more sweep than ronnie coleman 2003 lol
its so sad ND and Co. don't even know their own hero's physique as well as everyone else..
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You believe what you like , Kevin addressed the claim and his rep is solid .
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you don't understand english do you? ::)
kevin did not morph the pic. period.
that is not the issue.
the issue is that someone else has:
Oh he seen the ' morphed pics ' after it was posted and you claimed it was , he then said it wasn't . so he's covering for the person who did it? more terrific logic from Hulkster
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Quiz time for ND:
now, you may have trouble with this, but who's physique is THIS?
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okay okay, ND since you couldn't answer that one.
I'll give you another one.
whos physique is THIS?
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so sorry you are having so much trouble ND.
its too bad you don't know your hero's physique very well.
here is another one for you to try.
hint: he hails from England:
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huckster, you are a dumbass.
there is no "picture morphing conspiracy" here, just you're delusional pattern of thinking.
hope this helps.
check it out.
the shot is so morphed dorian 94 (no, not 95 lol) has bigger quads with more sweep than ronnie coleman 2003 lol
its so sad ND and Co. don't even know their own hero's physique as well as everyone else..
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Quiz time for ND:
now, you may have trouble with this, but who's physique is THIS?
The guy who beat Ronnie on a regular & consistent basis ;)
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huckster, you are a dumbass.
there is no "picture morphing conspiracy" here, just you're delusional pattern of thinking.
hope this helps.
lol who's Gimmick account is this?
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lol who's Gimmick account is this?
Hey pumpster claimed XFACTOR is your gimmick what's up with that?
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there is no "picture morphing conspiracy" here, just you're delusional pattern of thinking.
sure, because dorian really did have tom platz's quads
for one day only LOL
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My ndame is duh ronnie coleman an dis is sum pictas o me at ma bes.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251894.0;attach=292685)
lol who's Gimmick account is this?
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Hey pumpster claimed XFACTOR is your gimmick what's up with that?
I don't have any gimmick accounts.
just one. I don't have enough time for more than one account lol
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I don't have any gimmick accounts.
just one. I don't have enough time for more than one account lol
he claims you have many ???
anyway he seen the pic are you saying he's covering for the person who toyed with it?
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It looks like Hulkster has been at work on the "morphed" shot of Yates. Note the missing right elbow and bigger legs. Hahaha
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he claims you have many ???
anyway he seen the pic are you saying he's covering for the person who toyed with it?
could have been anyone. but it wasn't Kevin. he is an excellent photographer with a great reputation.
almost everyone who has seen it feels it is obviously morphed - look how many threads were started about it.
I am really surprised you can't see it is morphed either - its pretty obvious - esp with the comparsions to Platz. dorian never had quads like that.
but I understand that you would NEVER admit that you felt it was morphed even if you knew it was - because you need an 'advantage' in the ronnie dorian debate...
the difference with everyone else is that we don't need the advantage so everyone is saying what is obvious: the quads are worked..
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It looks like Hulkster has been at work on the "morphed" shot of Yates. Note the missing right elbow. Hahaha
huh? I saved that right from one of the threads ???
I don't even have morphing software, or have any clue how to do it..
ND was this your work? ???
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ND are you touching up the pic even more? ::)
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could have been anyone. but it wasn't Kevin. he is an excellent photographer with a great reputation.
almost everyone who has seen it feels it is obviously morphed - look how many threads were started about it.
I am really surprised you can't see it is morphed either - its pretty obvious - esp with the comparsions to Platz. dorian never had quads like that.
but I understand that you would NEVER admit that you felt it was morphed even if you knew it was - because you need an 'advantage' in the ronnie dorian debate...
the difference with everyone else is that we don't need the advantage so everyone is saying what is obvious: the quads are worked..
You're not paying attention , the pic was posted after it was posted YOU claimed it was morphed , Kevin said it wasn't , so entertaining he didn't do it , he still seen it and according to you he's LYING to protect those who did do it? LOL great logic
I don't need any angles that pic is insane , Dorian would crushed Ronnie at 269 , 1993/1995 Olympia
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I love how you claim I said it was morphed.
actually everyone said it was morphed. look around..
this is the bb.com pic, saved from one of the threads:
the quads/waistline are..well...you can see: compared to platz again..
I am going to delete that other shot cause someone (ND?) fucked with it again..
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I love how you claim I said it was morphed.
actually everyone said it was morphed. look around..
this is the bb.com pic, saved from one of the threads:
the quads/waistline are..well...you can see: compared to platz again..
I am going to delete that other shot cause someone (ND?) fucked with it again..
I never morphed any pics ;) I never sharpened any either ;) and why delete? you never deleted the dozens of worked screencaps iceman/Bizzy made for you ;)
and you're avoiding the question is Horton lying for the guy who did ' morph ' it?
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I find it hard to believe that bodybuilding.com would deliberately tamper with Kevin Horton's work and expect him to turn a blind eye to it. I would however like Kevin Horton to clear up one or two things on behalf of the nut-huggers e.g. why the background and lighting appear the same in both 94 and 95. The only possible explanation I can think of is a mini studio was set-up in Temple Gym complete with lighting and was left untouched for a whole year. There may have been markings on the floor telling Dorian exactly where to stand for the next shoot. The hair is clearly shorter and lighter in the 95 shot.
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I find it hard to believe that bodybuilding.com would deliberately tamper with Kevin Horton's work and expect him to turn a blind eye to it. I would however like Kevin Horton to clear up one or two things on behalf of the nut-huggers e.g. why the background and lighting appear the same in both 94 and 95. The only possible explanation I can think of is a mini studio was set-up in Temple Gym complete with lighting and was left untouched for a whole year. There may have been markings on the floor telling Dorian exactly where to stand for the next shoot. The hair is clearly shorter and lighter in the 95 shot.
exactly the hair is noticeably different
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exactly the hair is noticeably different
??? ::)
look: the hair is identical in every possible detail:
look directly up from dorian's forehead. even the curls are identical...
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??? ::)
look: the hair is identical in every possible detail:
look directly up from dorian's forehead. even the curls are identical...
No it's not the sides are darker on the front double biceps and the front latspread they're much closer cropped to the side of his head
and answer the question , are you now claiming Kevin didn't do it but is covering up for those who did?
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huh? I saved that right from one of the threads ???
I don't even have morphing software, or have any clue how to do it..
ND was this your work? ???
MemberX did that shot.
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exactly the hair is noticeably different
And the 95 shot could've been taken immediately after a leg workout which might explain why the legs appear slightly bigger than normal.
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Kevin didn't morph it. I believe him.
but as someone stated, others at bb.com may have morphed the pic
Kevin believes the pic was not morphed.
few believe it wasn't at least based on the ridiculous quads shown that dorian never had..
thats the facts, plain and simple.
ND, I ask you this:
do YOU believe the shot is genuine - ie that dorians' quads miraculously flared up and got bigger like no other time in his career, then shrunk back down again the next day?
answer the question
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And the 95 shot could've been taken after a leg workout which might explain why the legs appear slightly bigger than normal.
LMAO.
you don't gain 4 inches in your quads and a miraculous never before seen sweep after a leg workout..
like I said, you guys need an advantage, and holy fuck are you reaching for it now... ::)
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I never morphed any pics ;) I never sharpened any either ;) and why delete? you never deleted the dozens of worked screencaps iceman/Bizzy made for you ;)
and you're avoiding the question is Horton lying for the guy who did ' morph ' it?
LOL, first you thought I was Hulkster when I first started posting here a while back. Now you think I'm bizzy, lol. Just ask Ron and he will tell you I'm neither.
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LOL, first you thought I was Hulkster when I first started posting here a while back. Now you think I'm bizzy, lol. Just ask Ron and he will tell you I'm neither.
I know you're Bizzy I could care less what Ron says , you gave that one away a long time ago. ;)
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And the 95 shot could've been taken after a leg workout which might explain why the legs appear slightly bigger than normal
or it was photoshopped.. 8)
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Kevin didn't morph it. I believe him.
but as someone stated, others at bb.com may have morphed the pic
Kevin believes the pic was not morphed.
few believe it wasn't at least based on the ridiculous quads shown that dorian never had..
thats the facts, plain and simple.
ND, I ask you this:
do YOU believe the shot is genuine - ie that dorians' quads miraculously flared up and got bigger like no other time in his career, then shrunk back down again the next day?
answer the question
Kevin would know if anyone if it's not morphed it's not a matter of ' belief ' he gave them a picture and when it was posted it looks nothing like the original? and he says specifically it's not morphed
either way you're claiming Kevin is lying
and when I first seen the pic I couldn't believe the size of his quads , but Kevin said eons ago that he has pre-contest pics of Dorian before the 1995 Mr Olympia that were out of this world , he a reported 283 pounds so it's believable his quads could be that pic , Dorian always sacrificed a lot of muscle when he dieted down , so it's possible .
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I know you're Bizzy I could care less what Ron says , you gave that one away a long time ago. ;)
And this was given away when? How? Proof?
Get a life man. My style and choice of words are different than bizzy's. Stop thinking of me ;D
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And the 95 shot could've been taken immediately after a leg workout which might explain why the legs appear slightly bigger than normal.
If he had worked his legs that day there would be very little if any cuts in them. Pumping blood into the quads takes away the cuts. Pumping your legs before posing is something NO one would ever do if they were about to pose on stage or for a photo.
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either way you're claiming Kevin is lying
why do you always put words in people's mouths? ::)
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and when I first seen the pic I couldn't believe the size of his quads , but Kevin said eons ago that he has pre-contest pics of Dorian before the 1995 Mr Olympia that were out of this world , he a reported 283 pounds so it's believable his quads could be that pic , Dorian always sacrificed a lot of muscle when he dieted down , so it's possible .
not possible when you compare him to an even heavier bodyweight, and its nowhere close, not to mention the difference in waistlines..:
sorry, there goes your theory..
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Kevin would know if anyone if it's not morphed it's not a matter of ' belief ' he gave them a picture and when it was posted it looks nothing like the original? and he says specifically it's not morphed
either way you're claiming Kevin is lying
and when I first seen the pic I couldn't believe the size of his quads , but Kevin said eons ago that he has pre-contest pics of Dorian before the 1995 Mr Olympia that were out of this world , he a reported 283 pounds so it's believable his quads could be that pic , Dorian always sacrificed a lot of muscle when he dieted down , so it's possible .
Kevin needs to forget about bodybuilding and get on the treadmill. I'm worried about his health after seeing the "week in the dungeon" DVD.
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And this was given away when? How? Proof?
Get a life man. My style and choice of words are different than bizzy's. Stop thinking of me ;D
He's a merciless poster who will stop at no end to continue embarrassing himself.
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He's a merciless poster who will stop at no end to continue embarrassing himself.
very true.
ND is already embarassing himself by supposedly being the biggest dorian guy on the board yet he doesn't even know what dorian's quads looked like, not even enough to tell an obvious photoshop! ;)
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not possible when you compare him to an even heavier bodyweight, and its nowhere close, not to mention the difference in waistlines..:
sorry, there goes your theory..
it also doesn't make sense that Dorian would purposely lose 25 lbs of muscle in the pursuit for better conditioning yet show up onstage with worse definition. ???
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/DorianYates102.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/95%20Mr%20Olympia/DorianYates62.jpg)
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why do you always put words in people's mouths? ::)
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I'm not either way you're saying he's not being honest
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I'm not either way you're saying he's not being honest
no, you moron.
there is a difference between being dishonest (intentional deception) and simply being mistaken (an honest mistake)
Kevin said he did not morph the pic. he is being honest and we have no reason not to believe him.
Kevin also said he believes that no one morphed the pic. he could be wrong - again, you should know. dorian never had quads like that ever.
even for a day..
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no, you moron.
there is a difference between being dishonest (intentional deception) and simply being mistaken (an honest mistake)
Kevin said he did not morph the pic. he is being honest and we have no reason not to believe him.
Kevin also said he believes that no one morphed the pic. he could be wrong - again, you should know. dorian never had quads like that ever.
even for a day..
LMFAO he ' believes ' HE would know if anyone it's his damn picture , he sent it to bb.com you post it and he see it then says NO it's not worked lol get out of here you dummy
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LMFAO he ' believes ' HE would know if anyone it's his damn picture , he sent it to bb.com you post it and he see it then says NO it's not worked lol get out of here you dummy
explain the quads.
don't run.
explain the quads and the waist.
don't run.
you truly know nothing about dorian's physique if you think that pic looks untouched.
I am very disappointed in you ND.
you lose the title of dorian guru.
to everyone else on the board, apparently... :P
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I know you are fighting tooth and nail for this pic ND.
you think its your ace in the hole for this debate.
too bad its clearly worked.
sucks to be you :P
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explain the quads.
don't run.
explain the quads and the waist.
don't run.
you truly know nothing about dorian's physique if you think that pic looks untouched.
I am very disappointed in you ND.
you lose the title of dorian guru.
to everyone else on the board, apparently... :P
lol you're acting weird
anyway I'll explain this for you again
font double biceps shot - 1994
front latspread - 1995
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lol you're acting weird
anyway I'll explain this for you again
font double biceps shot - 1994
front latspread - 1995
why don't you explain why the background is exactly the same, even in relation to dorian's position, the lighitng the same, the shadows on dorian's body, the hair is the same, the curls etc etc. all 1 year later
it would have been easier to go to Mars LOL
explain that LOL
you are really reaching for your ace in the hole LOL
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why don't you explain why the background is exactly the same, even in relation to dorian's position, the lighitng the same, the shadows on dorian's body, the hair is the same, the curls etc etc. all 1 year later
it would have been easier to go to Mars LOL
explain that LOL
you are really reaching for your ace in the hole LOL
Hulkster it's not uncommon for photographers to use the same backround , the hair looks different to me seriously and the bottom line is the photographer said the picture is untouched either you can believe him or not I don't care
that picture in the scheme of things doesn't change anything , Dorian at 269 pounds is still much better and those pics aren't in dispute ;)
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whats sad about you ND, and others say this about you all the time, is that you read something somewhere and you automatically think 'oh it must be true no doubt' and you don't even question anything.
you never think critically, use common sense or use your head.
thats why you don't even consider that the date may have been mistaken as to when this old pic was taken, or that it couldnt have been shopped, even though its about as clear as you can possibly get that it was shopped and that it was from the same shoot..
but of course, you have to be this way, since you are reaching desperately for your ace in the hole...
:P
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whats sad about you ND, and others say this about you all the time, is that you read something somewhere and you automatically think 'oh it must be true no doubt' and you don't even question anything.
you never think critically, use common sense or use your head.
thats why you don't even consider that the date may have been mistaken as to when this old pic was taken, or that it couldnt have been shopped, even though its about as clear as you can possibly get that it was shopped and that it was from the same shoot..
but of course, you have to be this way, since you are reaching desperately for your ace in the hole...
:P
Hulkster I don't care about this pic in the least it's impressive either way but it doesn't change the fact that Dorian would have crushed Ronnie well before that pic was ever shown
bottom line the guy who took the pic says it's legit , good enough for me .
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Hulkster I don't care about this pic in the least it's impressive either way but it doesn't change the fact that Dorian would have crushed Ronnie well before that pic was ever shown
bottom line the guy who took the pic says it's legit , good enough for me .
you just sounded like the religious people you dislike. Your faith in another man is cute.
Its obviously shopped. There is one picture that is ridiculous and another one less so. The top of his quads look different, the sweep, the waist. The lats even a little wider.
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best ever :o
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=251730.0;attach=292857;image)
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you just sounded like the religious people you dislike. Your faith in another man is cute.
hahahaha
It's remarkable the lack of upper body detail in all of these pics.
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best ever :o
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh184/marty26_bucket/1228903491399.gif)