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She's right. The mainstream media was no better than the National Enquirer. Why isn't the media all over Kennedy? ::)
Palin accuses media of 'personal, salacious' reporting
Posted: 01:06 PM ET
(CNN) — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s office accused the media Friday of habitually taking her remarks out of context “to create adversarial situations,” and of pursuing “erroneous and often outrageous leads on a variety of non-issues.”
The statement also charged that some members of the media, including independent bloggers and the Atlantic, were continuing “to give credence to the sensational allegation that the governor’s child, Trig, is not hers.”
“As a public official, I expect criticism and I expect to be held accountable for how I govern,” Palin said in a statement released by her office Friday. “But the personal, salacious nature of recent reporting, and often the refusal of the media to correct obvious mistakes, unfortunately discredits too many in journalism today, making it difficult for many Americans to believe what they see in the media.”
The governor also said press coverage had distorted her recent remarks about aspiring New York senator Caroline Kennedy. “I was not commenting at all on Caroline Kennedy as a prospective U.S. senator, but rather on the seemingly arbitrary ways in which news organizations determine the level and kind of scrutiny given to those who aspire to public office,” she said. “In fact, I consider Ms. Kennedy qualified and experienced, and she could serve New York well.”
In portions of an interview with conservative John Ziegler released Thursday, Palin said it would be “interesting” to see how coverage of Kennedy’s candidacy compared to her own media experience. “It’s going to be interesting to see how that plays out and I think that as we watch that we will perhaps be able to prove that there is a class issue here also that was such a factor in the scrutiny of my candidacy versus, say, the scrutiny of what her candidacy may be.”
Her office took particular issue with a Politico story that said Palin had called coverage of Kennedy to date too soft.
Palin’s office also charged that reporters were unfairly scrutinizing the governor and her family. “Just this week, false stories in the media surfaced alleging improper influence by the Palin administration or the governor herself,” they said in the Friday statement, pointing to a report by an Alaska paper on union charges that her administration had delayed serving an arrest warrant on the mother of Levi Johnston, fiance of Bristol Palin. Union officials later changed the substance of those allegations considerably.
Another report — that Johnston lacked the proper educational requirements for the position he held — resulted in his resignation from the job.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/01/09/palin-accuses-media-of-personal-salacious-reporting/#more-35033
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"Why isn't the media all over Kennedy?"
you're right. We haven't seen 60 news pieces this week tearing her up over "you know", her records releases, her finances, the crap that is political dynasties, nepotism, etc.
oh wait, we have. hey BB, turn on the news buddy. FOX, CNN, and yes, even MSN have been tearing her up this week.
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No, we haven't seen the media attacking Kennedy's family, highlighting the fact she has never had a job, that she talks like a 15 year-old, etc., etc. No comparison.
Then again, I don’t read the Daily Kos or National Enquirer.
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No, we haven't seen the media attacking Kennedy's family, highlighting the fact she has never had a job, that she talks like a 15 year-old, etc., etc. No comparison.
Then again, I don’t read the Daily Kos or National Enquirer.
Well, that's because kennedy didn't go on Couric, Gibson, etc.
Palin was up for a MUCH bigger job. Let's face it - everyone here minimized obama's experience cause he was 'only' a senator. well, she will 'only' be a sub senator for 18 months.
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She better develop some thicker skin if she truly aspires to be commander in chief
Look at all the shit that was thrown at Obama (some of it by Palin - like he pals around with terrorists)
Everytime she opens her mouth she just digs a deeper hole.
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No, we haven't seen the media attacking Kennedy's family, highlighting the fact she has never had a job, that she talks like a 15 year-old, etc., etc. No comparison.
how much MSNBC do you watch each day, BB?
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LOL part of me wishes that she would just go back to alaska but part of me KNOWS she is right about it...the main stream media dogged her and you know this 240. Gang banging lesbo daughter, mother of the boy her daughter is having a baby with is a drug dealer: she hangs out with drug dealers. CHEATING ON HE HUSBAND...and the list goes on and on bro...
Honestly 240 you think palin got a fair deal from the media?
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how much MSNBC do you watch each day, BB?
I watch portions of MSNBC, Fox, and CNN pretty much every day.
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LOL part of me wishes that she would just go back to alaska but part of me KNOWS she is right about it...the main stream media dogged her and you know this 240. Gang banging lesbo daughter, mother of the boy her daughter is having a baby with is a drug dealer: she hangs out with drug dealers. CHEATING ON HE HUSBAND...and the list goes on and on bro...
Honestly 240 you think palin got a fair deal from the media?
Not even close.
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Not even close.
yeah well again, she's just making herself look very un-presidential by whining about unfair treatment by the media.
How many times was this picture on TV and Get Big (maybe even posted by you)
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yeah well again, she's just making herself look very un-presidential by whining about unfair treatment by the media.
How many times was this picture on TV and Get Big (maybe even posted by you)
The mainstream media gave Obama unprecedented positive news coverage. Anyone who didn't have their head up Obama's and the Democrat party's rear ends saw that during the campaign.
Who cares about the picture? When did I post the picture and in what context?
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The mainstream media gave Obama unprecedented positive news coverage. Anyone who didn't have their head up Obama's and the Democrat party's rear ends saw that during the campaign.
Who cares about the picture? When did I post the picture and in what context?
ok - so you're saying that Fox News, Rush, etc.. are not mainstream media.
regarding the picture I said "maybe" even posted by you.
you know (or should know) full well that picture was shown over and over and a certain segment of the dipshit public still thinks Obama is a secret muslim and a terrorist
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Media took shots with Palin and her family that were out of bounds. She wasn't ready to be VP IMO but they treated her very unfairly.
Kennedy was criticized by some but it was appropriate and professional criticizm.
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ok - so you're saying that Fox News, Rush, etc.. are not mainstream media.
regarding the picture I said "maybe" even posted by you.
you know (or should know) full well that picture was shown over and over and a certain segment of the dipshit public still thinks Obama is a secret muslim and a terrorist
Fox is obviously MSM. I don't listen to Rush, but he's not a mainstream news source. He's an entertainer.
So you just made up the fact that "maybe" I posted a picture, with zero context. ::)
As I said, who cares about the picture? It doesn't change the fact that Obama was treated like a saint by the media.
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Media took shots with Palin and her family that were out of bounds. She wasn't ready to be VP IMO but they treated her very unfairly.
Kennedy was criticized by some but it was appropriate and professional criticizm.
Right. The attacks on Palin were ruthless, completely unnecessary, and often false.
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Right. The attacks on Palin were ruthless, completely unnecessary, and often false.
Right to what?...that Fox news, Rush etc.. are not mainstream media?
To your other point - Politics is a blood sport.
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Right to what?...that Fox news, Rush etc.. are not mainstream media?
To your other point - Politics is a blood sport.
? Right that the "Media took shots with Palin and her family that were out of bounds." That they "treated her very unfairly." That "Kennedy was criticized by some but it was appropriate and professional criticizm."
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240's very unfair criticizm and repeating BS blogger stories about Palin threatened my bromance with him.
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Right. The attacks on Palin were ruthless, completely unnecessary, and often false.
Which ones were false?
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Which ones were false?
Palin cheating on her husband. Palin faking her own pregnancy. Palin's daughter faking her pregnancy.
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Fox is obviously MSM. I don't listen to Rush, but he's not a mainstream news source. He's an entertainer.
So you just made up the fact that "maybe" I posted a picture, with zero context. ::)
As I said, who cares about the picture? It doesn't change the fact that Obama was treated like a saint by the media.
how can you call it a "fact" when all I said was "maybe even posted by you"
that pic WAS posted all over this site MAYBE EVEN BY YOU.
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how can you call it a "fact" when all I said was "maybe even posted by you"
that pic WAS posted all over this site MAYBE EVEN BY YOU.
It's a fact that you made the statement. It's a fact that you invented the possibility that "maybe" I posted some picture, in an apparent attempt to show that I thought Obama was Muslim. Nice try. . . . Actually, it was pretty lame.
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It's a fact that you made the statement. It's a fact that you invented the possibility that "maybe" I posted some picture, in an apparent attempt to show that I thought Obama was Muslim. Nice try. . . . Actually, it was pretty lame.
oh brother - are you serious
go back and read the post. I never said YOU thought Obama was a Muslim
yeah well again, she's just making herself look very un-presidential by whining about unfair treatment by the media.
How many times was this picture on TV and Get Big (maybe even posted by you)
regarding the picture I said "maybe" even posted by you.
you know (or should know) full well that picture was shown over and over and a certain segment of the dipshit public still thinks Obama is a secret muslim and a terrorist
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straw i never not once saw that picture on the television, and i watch fox, cnn, msnbc etc...
Palin was unfairly treated by the media, outright lies and idiotic sexist ideas often put out ironicly enough by liberal WOMEN where touted around like truths.
Be honest straw you think she got a fair deal as far as the medias concerned?
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Honestly 240 you think palin got a fair deal from the media?
no, they were a little rough on her.
Their motive was that she was an awesome news story. ratings jackpot.
was she prepared? Some of you argue 'she was prepared enough', but we all know if she was, it was only marginally, and that there were a lot of people WAY better for the job than her.
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The President of the United States needs to have some thicker skin than this chick.
I may not like Bush, but at least he had balls and doesn't run around talking about how unfair the media is.
This chick needs to get back to her Moose hunting... She's a joke.
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no, they were a little rough on her.
Their motive was that she was an awesome news story. ratings jackpot.
was she prepared? Some of you argue 'she was prepared enough', but we all know if she was, it was only marginally, and that there were a lot of people WAY better for the job than her.
I agree that she wasnt as well prepared as she should have been also agree that there where alot of other ppl better for the job...i think thats the problem with news today, it is about ratings to them not necissarily about the truth.
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The President of the United States needs to have some thicker skin than this chick.
I may not like Bush, but at least he had balls and doesn't run around talking about how unfair the media is.
This chick needs to get back to her Moose hunting... She's a joke.
bush does have balls. He looks you in the eye and says he doesn't care what you think.
Palin is trying to sell this 'small town girl' thing. If she acted like Hilary clinton for 5 minutes, she'd win in a landslide in 2012 lol... she just doesn't have that grace, shrewd, toughness. She ACTS like she's tough, but really... still bickering about Katie Couric 4 months later?
Do you see hilary worrying about campaign shit? No. She has 2 weeks til she's sec of state in the middle of this isr/gaza mess.
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She's nothing more than a Milf.
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Look, if you're going to be vice president and potentially president, you need to be able to answer questions. Especially those pertaining to what your job would entail. ::)
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straw i never not once saw that picture on the television, and i watch fox, cnn, msnbc etc...
Palin was unfairly treated by the media, outright lies and idiotic sexist ideas often put out ironicly enough by liberal WOMEN where touted around like truths.
Be honest straw you think she got a fair deal as far as the medias concerned?
I don't think they were any more or less fair with her than with any other candidate (except maybe McCain who was I think got some preferential treatment). The Palin thing snowballed because of how she conducted herself.
That pic of Obama was everyone including here. I can't believe you've never seen it (not saying you didn't I'm just suprised).
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I don't think they were any more or less fair with her than with any other candidate (except maybe McCain who was I think got some preferential treatment). The Palin thing snowballed because of how she conducted herself.
That pic of Obama was everyone including here. I can't believe you've never seen it (not saying you didn't I'm just suprised).
Ive have seen it now just never on tv on any channel that i watch and i watched a lot of different channels during the election. B/c of how she conducted herself? pls explain...
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Ive have seen it now just never on tv on any channel that i watch and i watched a lot of different channels during the election. B/c of how she conducted herself? pls explain...
do you really need me to explain all her gaffes and moose in the headlight moments.
Personally, I'm fine never knowing or hearing about her again.
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do you really need me to explain all her gaffes and moose in the headlight moments.
Personally, I'm fine never knowing or hearing about her again.
why does that make it ok to harrass her family, question the birth of her latest child in such a degrading manner, and say that she cheated on her husband? Thats horse shit "the way she conducted herself" thats bull shit bro, fine go after her for that, that in no way justifies the slanderous escapade that took place.
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why does that make it ok to harrass her family, question the birth of her latest child in such a degrading manner, and say that she cheated on her husband? Thats horse shit "the way she conducted herself" thats bull shit bro, fine go after her for that, that in no way justifies the slanderous escapade that took place.
Most if not all of the attacks on her family and the other personal shit was not from the so called mainstream media.
If you recall the initial exposure on the mainstream media was VERY positive and only when we started TALKING and reveal herself to be an idiot did the coverage start to get bad. Also, as her record started to get researched we learned about trooper gate, the hiring of cronies, her flip flop on the bridge to nowhere, the massive debt she racked up while mayor, etc....
The bottom line is that any public figure is going to be subject to attacks from all over the place and someone who aspires to be commander in chief would do herself a favor by just letting the attacks roll off her back and keep being cool.....sticks and stones... If she needs a role model for this she could look at Obama.
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Most if not all of the attacks on her family and the other personal shit was not from the so called mainstream media.
If you recall the initial exposure on the mainstream media was VERY positive and only when we started TALKING and reveal herself to be an idiot did the coverage start to get bad. Also, as her record started to get researched we learned about trooper gate, the hiring of cronies, her flip flop on the bridge to nowhere, the massive debt she racked up while mayor, etc....
The bottom line is that any public figure is going to be subject to attacks from all over the place and someone who aspires to be commander in chief would do herself a favor by just letting the attacks roll off her back and keep being cool.....sticks and stones... If she needs a role model for this she could look at Obama.
LOL dude they treated obama with kid gloves bro, olbeirman ran a piece about how she was hanging around with drug dealers b/c her daughters boyfriends mom got arrested for drugs ::) LOL The difference in treatment between the two was rediculous, when obama asked ppl to lay of his wife they did...palin gets accused of cheating on her husband, questioning the birth of her latest child, told she shouldnt be running b/c she just had a child...LOL honestly man i dont think anybody that thinks she got a fair deal or that anybody that thinks she brought it upon herself is looking at it from an objective view point.
I understand ragging on her for her political views, gaffes etc...but dragging her family through the shit ??? bush league man bush league.
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LOL dude they treated obama with kid gloves bro, olbeirman ran a piece about how she was hanging around with drug dealers b/c her daughters boyfriends mom got arrested for drugs ::) LOL The difference in treatment between the two was rediculous, when obama asked ppl to lay of his wife they did...palin gets accused of cheating on her husband, questioning the birth of her latest child, told she shouldnt be running b/c she just had a child...LOL honestly man i dont think anybody that thinks she got a fair deal or that anybody that thinks she brought it upon herself is looking at it from an objective view point.
I understand ragging on her for her political views, gaffes etc...but dragging her family through the shit ??? bush league man bush league.
aren't you the guy who claims to have never seen that Obama pic I posted on the 1rst page
what are the odds maybe you didn't notice all the shitty and unfair treatment of Obama
seriously man, the campaign is over and the outcome wouldn't have changed a bit if we never heard about Palins dopey kids or husband.
Palin dug her own grave one stupid comment at at time
time to move on
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aren't you the guy who claims to have never seen that Obama pic I posted on the 1rst page
what are the odds maybe you didn't notice all the shitty and unfair treatment of Obama
seriously man, the campaign is over and the outcome wouldn't have changed a bit if we never heard about Palins dopey kids or husband.
Palin dug her own grave one stupid comment at at time
time to move on
again ive seen it many times but never on t.v.
Im not saying that the media didnt go after obama but LOL it was on legitimate political issues for the most part...NOT SO FOR PALIN
WTF does that have to do with this conversation? THAT HAS NOTHING to do with how she was treated and what stories where run on her as opposed to obama. Sounds like you know she was mistreated and dont want to admit it or talk about it.
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agaive seen it many times but never on t.v.in
Im not saying that the media didnt go after obama but LOL it was on legitimate political issues for the most part...NOT SO FOR PALIN
WTF does that have to do with this conversation? THAT HAS NOTHING to do with how she was treated and what stories where run on her as opposed to obama. Sounds like you know she was mistreated and dont want to admit it or talk about it.
oh sorry, I missed that part - so you've seen that photo many times just not on TV
so you saw it on?? the internet (Get Big maybe), magazines, etc...
whatever
Why are you still crying about Palin?
do you think whatever bad stories you're still chapped about really made a difference in the outcome?
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oh sorry, I missed that part - so you've seen that photo many times just not on TV
so you saw it on?? the internet (Get Big maybe), magazines, etc...
whatever
Why are you still crying about Palin?
do you think whatever bad stories you're still chapped about really made a difference in the outcome
No problem the picture was plastered on getbig as you probably know dont read political magazines so...
Why am I still crying about palin? Seriously HAHHAHAHHAHA whos the guy who starts a new thread on her daily? whos the guy who brings her up in every other thread? 240 LOL why arent you asking him?
No I dont think the media outcome would have changed the outcome of the election. HOWEVER that is besides the point and doesnt change the fact that she was treated far different from obama or biden or even mccain. you dont see a problem with that?
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i spent those initial 2 days reading the lib blogs as they exposed Levi's myspace full of racy pics, skinny pics of her right after baby was born, Etc. Also I saw the website with her all skinny, taken at whe point she was 7 months pregnant, only to diappear several hours later that sunday.
Yeah, the story is bogus. You don't delete pics off the state website unless you have something to hide.
yes, that sunday a lot of the evidence was thrown in the fire. And you don't do that unless ya have something to hide.
Regardless, Dems decided that while she was a liar and a fraud, she did it with the best intentions, and that she was pretty much stupid enough to nail on other things. So they let the issue die, obama orderred everyone to avoid it. Obviously it's a big smelly lie. You don't delete skinny pics from a state website on a sunday unless ya have a really good reason ;) ;) ;)
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HOWEVER that is besides the point and doesnt change the fact that she was treated far different from obama or biden or even mccain. you dont see a problem with that?
By which stations?
NBC treated Obama better than Biden.
Fox treated Palin way better. They had 3 hosts dedicated to 'how bad obama is' and 2 dedicated to 'how awesome palin is'. Let's be honest. The stations chose their horse based upon what their viewers wanted, and that was that.
To accuse 'the media of bias', you gotta admit there was both left-wing and right-wing bias, serving diff candidates.
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By which stations?
NBC treated Obama better than Biden.
Fox treated Palin way better. They had 3 hosts dedicated to 'how bad obama is' and 2 dedicated to 'how awesome palin is'. Let's be honest. The stations chose their horse based upon what their viewers wanted, and that was that.
To accuse 'the media of bias', you gotta admit there was both left-wing and right-wing bias, serving diff candidates.
NO DOUBT again thats the problem with news these days its not about news its about pushing an agenda...doesnt change the fact that she was slaughtered by the main press. Again you may not see a problem with this as hey your horse won but sooner or later the shoe will be on the other foot and you wont think its cool then. I was against all the obama rumors, him being muslim, him not being a citizen. You however perpetuated the palin rumors and bought into the whole heartedly again to think that didnt sway your opinion on her is assinine so how do you know that it didnt sway others?
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NO DOUBT again thats the problem with news these days its not about news its about pushing an agenda...doesnt change the fact that she was slaughtered by the main press. Again you may not see a problem with this as hey your horse won but sooner or later the shoe will be on the other foot and you wont think its cool then. I was against all the obama rumors, him being muslim, him not being a citizen. You however perpetuated the palin rumors and bought into the whole heartedly again to think that didnt sway your opinion on her is assinine so how do you know that it didnt sway others?
of course i'd like to see all the stations deliver the unbiased truth. BUt they NEVER have. They've always put on the editorial goggles based upon their viewing demo. there's always been left, center, and right wing biases.
The far-right media RAN RAN RAN with the Obama muslim thing.
IF - IF - IF I believed palin would have done a better josb than anyone else, she would have won my vote. I wouldn't care that she lied about a pregnancy to further her career, if that's true.
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No problem the picture was plastered on getbig as you probably know dont read political magazines so...
Why am I still crying about palin? Seriously HAHHAHAHHAHA whos the guy who starts a new thread on her daily? whos the guy who brings her up in every other thread? 240 LOL why arent you asking him?
No I dont think the media outcome would have changed the outcome of the election. HOWEVER that is besides the point and doesnt change the fact that she was treated far different from obama or biden or even mccain. you dont see a problem with that?
I think he started this thread because She was back in the news hence it was timely and relevent.
bottom line - the media (all forms) were harsh on all candidates. I don't believe Palin was treated any worse than anyone else.
Palin should STFU and go back to running her state and stop whining about the media.
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She did a high profile interview for "howobamagotelected.com" LMAO
She keeps trying to keep herself relevant and in the news.
So she'll get the kiss-asses saying she's the savior in 2012, and you'll get the people who realize how dumb she is.
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I think he started this thread because She was back in the news hence it was timely and relevent.
bottom line - the media (all forms) were harsh on all candidates. I don't believe Palin was treated any worse than anyone else.
Palin should STFU and go back to running her state and stop whining about the media.
ABOUT HOW SHE WAS MISTREATED, which you already admitted she was
this is why im addressing the ISSUE
She did a high profile interview for "howobamagotelected.com" LMAO
She keeps trying to keep herself relevant and in the news.
So she'll get the kiss-asses saying she's the savior in 2012, and you'll get the people who realize how dumb she is.
LOL dude dont make me list all the palin threads and comments you have made prior to her doing this interview and after the election bro...
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ABOUT HOW SHE WAS MISTREATED, which you already admitted she was
this is why im addressing the ISSUE
LOL dude dont make me list all the palin threads and comments you have made prior to her doing this interview and after the election bro...
If I admitted anything it was that she got some harsh treatment on blogs and the internet.....JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
The only story here is that she it still too stupid to know when to stop digging that hole
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If I admitted anything it was that she got some harsh treatment on blogs and the internet.....JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
The only story here is that she it still too stupid to know when to stop digging that hole
i agree and disagree with that statement she does need to shut up about everything especially if she expects to have any chance in being a political player on the national level later on. At the same time she was slandered by the media so i understand her wanting to address that but i think it would be better for her to let others address it and for her to stay silent.
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If I admitted anything it was that she got some harsh treatment on blogs and the internet.....JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
The only story here is that she it still too stupid to know when to stop digging that hole
the problem is that alot of liberal media news got their info from these bloggers and ran the bloggers stories on their news station.
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the problem is that alot of liberal media news got their info from these bloggers and ran the bloggers stories on their news station.
and the conservative shows did the same
get over it
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and the conservative shows did the same
get over it
LOL i never saw somebody on fox pushing the story that obama was a muslim or that he wasnt a citizen...all i saw was oreilly and others saying how ignorant and stupid it was...
Again its easy to say get over b/c again your horse won, when the shoe is on the other foot and sooner or later it will be I dont want to hear any bitching from you.
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LOL i never saw somebody on fox pushing the story that obama was a muslim or that he wasnt a citizen...all i saw was oreilly and others saying how ignorant and stupid it was...
Again its easy to say get over b/c again your horse won, when the shoe is on the other foot and sooner or later it will be I dont want to hear any bitching from you.
there were plenty of stories and innuendo on Fox and other stations that Obama "might" be a muslim, that he was hiding something, that we didn't know the "real" Obama, questioning his patriotism, his loyalty, etc.... Terrorist Fist Bump anyone?? If you didn't see them you must have not been paying attention.
again - the only one STILL bitching about the media coverage is Palin and she wasn't even the frigging candidate. She was a token gesture to Religious Nut Bags. That Gambit failed. Time to shut up and go away
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LOL dude dont make me list all the palin threads and comments you have made prior to her doing this interview and after the election bro...
What good would it do to list them?
I believed she was not only unprepared and underqualified for the job, but also a liar.
She didn't look one bit preggo in pics where she was 6.5 month, allegedly. NOBODY in her office knew she was. No. Doesn't work like that. Pregnant women show. And in all 4 of her other pregnancies, she was as big as a damn house. Pics prove it.
Oh, and her daughter with the paunch missed 6 months of school due to 'mono' at this same time period ;)
Come on dude, it was a big lie. Obama knew he coudl beat her without that, and he did. Everyone with a brain knows she lied about being preggo.
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LOL i never saw somebody on fox pushing the story that obama was a muslim
HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAA
oh brother, that;s hilarious
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there were plenty of stories and innuendo on Fox and other stations that Obama "might" be a muslim, that he was hiding something, that we didn't know the "real" Obama, questioning his patriotism, his loyalty, etc.... Terrorist Fist Bump anyone?? If you didn't see them you must have not been paying attention.
again - the only one STILL bitching about the media coverage is Palin and she wasn't even the frigging candidate. She was a token gesture to Religious Nut Bags. That Gambit failed. Time to shut up and go away
Im not saying there wasnt I personally never saw one, I dont watch hannity though and it wouldnt suprise me if he did but please show me that a host on fox was pushing that obama is a muslim, or that his fist bump makes him a terrorist. I agree with you but again that doesnt justify the personal attacks on her by the media, does it?
What good would it do to list them?
I believed she was not only unprepared and underqualified for the job, but also a liar.
She didn't look one bit preggo in pics where she was 6.5 month, allegedly. NOBODY in her office knew she was. No. Doesn't work like that. Pregnant women show. And in all 4 of her other pregnancies, she was as big as a damn house. Pics prove it.
Oh, and her daughter with the paunch missed 6 months of school due to 'mono' at this same time period ;)
Come on dude, it was a big lie. Obama knew he coudl beat her without that, and he did. Everyone with a brain knows she lied about being preggo.
LOL yes her daughter is actually her grand daughter ::) you moronic jack ass, obama is a secret muslim terrorist too...fuking idiot. YES SHE CHEATED ON HER HUSBAND TOO THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER SAID SO...FUKING IDIOT, HER DAUGHTER IS A GANG BANGING LESBO TOO, FUKING IDIOT.
your stupidity is exceeded only by your ignorance.
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Im not saying there wasnt I personally never saw one, I dont watch hannity though and it wouldnt suprise me if he did but please show me that a host on fox was pushing that obama is a muslim, or that his fist bump makes him a terrorist. I agree with you but again that doesnt justify the personal attacks on her by the media, does it?
will you make up your mind. First you said you never saw the pic I posted. Then you said you saw in many times but just not on TV.
then you said you never saw someone of Fox news pushing the story that Obama was a muslin and now you say it wouldn't suprise you.
......I'm starting to understand.
why don't you just start the Palin crybaby club
seriously man - you're worse than Palin herself
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will you make up your mind. First you said you never saw the pic I posted. Then you said you saw in many times but just not on TV.
then you said you never saw someone of Fox news pushing the story that Obama was a muslin and now you say it wouldn't suprise you.
......I'm starting to understand.
why don't you just start the Palin crybaby club
seriously man - you're worse than Palin herself
STFU and read my posts instead of ASSuming
I never not once saw somebody on fox especially not a HOST push that obama was a muslim, did they report on somebody else saying he was of course, that IS COMPLETLY DIFFERNT THEN ENDORSING THE IGNORANCE LIKE OLBEIRMAN ET AL...No it wouldnt suprise me if hannity did it b/c he is just as ignorant as you or 240 but i dont watch him so i dont know you could remedy that and post a link though.
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STFU and read my posts instead of ASSuming
I never not once saw somebody on fox especially not a HOST push that obama was a muslim, did they report on somebody else saying he was of course, that IS COMPLETLY DIFFERNT THEN ENDORSING THE IGNORANCE LIKE OLBEIRMAN ET AL...No it wouldnt suprise me if hannity did it b/c he is just as ignorant as you or 240 but i dont watch him so i dont know you could remedy that and post a link though.
you're cracking up dude
douche the sand out of your vagina and move on with your life
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you're cracking up dude
douche the sand out of your vagina and move on with your life
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seriously man - would you like to go over it again point by point
Palin got the same treatment that everyone else did
Fox, CNN and other ran story after story crafted specifically to get a certain segment of the moronic public to question Obama's patriotism, loyalty, etc....
Your take - well you just didn't see it so it must not have happened.
The election is OVER - Palin is dying for attention and the only thing she's got left is to whine about how she was treated unfair
Guess what - LIFE AIN'T FAIR
Can't you at least find something relevent to bitch about?
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seriously man - would you like to go over it again point by point
Palin got the same treatment that everyone else did
Fox, CNN and other ran story after story crafted specifically to get a certain segment of the moronic public to question Obama's patriotism, loyalty, etc....
Your take - well you just didn't see it so it must not have happened.
The election is OVER - Palin is dying for attention and the only thing she's got left is to whine about how she was treated unfair
Guess what - LIFE AIN'T FAIR
Can't you at least find something relevent to bitch about?
LOL i love how you stick words in my mouth...questioning obamas patriotism, loyalty when sitting a church with a borderline racist pastor, not being truthful about his relationship with ayers...palins daughter is her grand daughter, palins daughters boy friends mom is arrested for drugs i.e. she pals around with drug dealers, palin cheated on her husband...your right they got the same treatment. ::)
STFU dumb ass this is what this thread is about if you dont like dont post on this thread.
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LOL i love how you stick words in my mouth...questioning obamas patriotism, loyalty when sitting a church with a borderline racist pastor, not being truthful about his relationship with ayers...palins daughter is her grand daughter, palins daughters boy friends mom is arrested for drugs i.e. she pals around with drug dealers, palin cheated on her husband...your right they got the same treatment. ::)
STFU dumb ass this is what this thread is about if you dont like dont post on this thread.
I didn't say YOU said those things about Obama. I said "Fox, CNN, etc.."
YES - I'm saying they and all other candidate were exposed to the same treatment. How many times do you need to hear that.
Everything little thing that someone could stick to them made it onto the "media" somewhere whether it was fair or not
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I didn't say YOU said those things about Obama. I said "Fox, CNN, etc.."
YES - I'm saying they and all other candidate were exposed to the same treatment. How many times do you need to hear that.
Everything little thing that someone could stick to them made it onto the "media" somewhere whether it was fair or not
ok my point is that
questioning obamas patriotism, loyalty when sitting a church with a borderline racist pastor, not being truthful about his relationship with ayers...palins daughter is her grand daughter, palins daughters boy friends mom is arrested for drugs i.e. she pals around with drug dealers, palin cheated on her husband...your right they got the same treatment.
the rumor mill and stories on palin where much more malicious and personal then stories about any other person.
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ok my point is that
the rumor mill and stories on palin where much more malicious and personal then stories about any other person.
NO IT WAS NOT
that is my point
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NO IT WAS NOT
that is my point
LOL so you think that obama being accused of being muslim, questioning his patriotism is on the same level as questioning the birth of palins latest child, saying she cheated on her husband?
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dems decided early that a crying Palin admitting her lie, only to prtect her daughter may just backfire and win over the screw-up female vote.
They didn't pull that card. Didn't need to.
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LOL so you think that obama being accused of being muslim, questioning his patriotism is on the same level as questioning the birth of palins latest child, saying she cheated on her husband?
YES - HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU NEED TO HEAR IT
it's all the same - it's fucking politics
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YES - HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU NEED TO HEAR IT
it's all the same - it's fucking politics
LOL just wanted to clarify...i dont see how anybody can believe that those rumors are on the same scale but to each their own.
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LOL just wanted to clarify...i dont see how anybody can believe that those rumors are on the same scale but to each their own.
I'd say that in today's society... It would be easier to be a cheater or an unwed mother than it is to be a muslim, at least when it comes to politics.
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I'd say that in today's society... It would be easier to be a cheater or an unwed mother than it is to be a muslim, at least when it comes to politics.
maybe but its gotta be alot easier of being accused of being a muslim as oppossed to cheating on your husband, or your daughter being your grand daughter.
and again in my mind those are on totally different levels of personal malicious attacks
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maybe but its gotta be alot easier of being accused of being a muslim as oppossed to cheating on your husband, or your daughter being your grand daughter.
and again in my mind those are on totally different levels of personal malicious attacks
dude - it's all the same - the Obama attacks were just as personal and malicious and probably had more influence on the election in negative way that any the stuff on Palin
Why are you so hung up on this?
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dude - it's all the same - the Obama attacks were just as personal and malicious and probably had more influence on the election in negative way that any the stuff on Palin
Why are you so hung up on this?
AGAIN this is what this thread is about im not running around like 240 commenting on palin in every other thread...dont want to hear dont post in a thread DEDICATED to how palin believes she was mistreated.
i already agreed with you that to each their own its your opinion they are the same and its mine that they arent.
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I'd say that in today's society... It would be easier to be a cheater or an unwed mother than it is to be a muslim, at least when it comes to politics.
no doubt and it wasn't just the charge of being a secret muslim
The implication was the he was untrustworthy and a some idiots even thought he was a terrorist which is exactly the message that Palin wanted to convey by saying he palled around with terrorist whenever she was in front of a microphone.
Thank Jebus that the majority of the voting public could see right through that crap although there were plenty of morons who still swallowed it hook line and sinker.
Let's see the videos where crowds of Obama supporters are shouting about Palins child, her knocked up daughter or her alleged affair.
They maybe we might actually have some parity with what Obama had to deal with:
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LOL that has nothing to do with what was endorsed by the media...there where plenty of palin ragging by liberal bro...the country is full of idiots who bought in to the rumors 240 is prime example he thinks palins daughter is actually her grand daughter read back over this thread he admits it...the difference is what rumors the media endorsed and the personally malicious nature of them.
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LOL that has nothing to do with what was endorsed by the media...there where plenty of palin ragging by liberal bro...the country is full of idiots who bought in to the rumors 240 is prime example he thinks palins daughter is actually her grand daughter read back over this thread he admits it...the difference is what rumors the media endorsed.
You're a fool, case closed.
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You're a fool, case closed.
LOL ron paul will never be president, hope this helps.
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LOL that has nothing to do with what was endorsed by the media...there where plenty of palin ragging by liberal bro...the country is full of idiots who bought in to the rumors 240 is prime example he thinks palins daughter is actually her grand daughter read back over this thread he admits it...the difference is what rumors the media endorsed.
You lost me on your "endorsed by the media comment"
what do you think influenced more voters in a negative way - stories about Palins daughter or stories that Obama was a muslim and a terrorist?
yet you think Palin somehow had it worse
If Palin were smart she would stop whining in front of cameras and microphones.
She's already bitched in public about the McCain campaign. Do you think any other politician wants anything to do with this dingbat?
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You lost me on your "endorsed by the media comment"
what do you think influenced more voters in a negative way - stories about Palins daughter or stories that Obama was a muslim and a terrorist?
yet you think Palin somehow had it worse
If Palin were smart she would stop whining in front of cameras and microphones.
She's already bitched in public about the McCain campaign. Do you think any other politician wants anything to do with this dingbat?
Ok maybe thats where we are getting confused im not argueing which rumors had more impact on the other parties views. What im saying is that the nature of palins rumors where much more personal in nature than the obama rumors.
I agree she should stfu and keep quite dignity and let ppl come to their own conclusion about it as opposed to talking about it.
If she was to do that as opposed to carrying on the way she has then maybe in a few years with more experience ya but as of now no at least no respectable politician with a actual chance of becoming pres.
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Ok maybe thats where we are getting confused im not argueing which rumors had more impact on the other parties views. What im saying is that the nature of palins rumors where much more personal in nature than the obama rumors. I agree she should stfu and keep quite dignity and let ppl come to their own conclusion about it as opposed to talking about it.
If she was to do that as opposed to carrying on the way she has then maybe in a few years with more experience ya but as of now no at least no respectable politician with a actual chance of becoming pres.
again - I think that it was all pretty much the same. It's a nasty business.
calling someone a traitor (or implying it) is just as bad if not worse than a story that someone is covering up for theirkid or having an affair.
salacious personal attacks are nothing new in politics
surely Palin is aware of this especially considering that she repeatedly suggested that Obama was palling around with a terrorist.....calling into question his loyalty to his country
time to move on
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Palin didn't want to go on Couric a second time.
"The Powers" made her.
i wonder how many other thing in her campaign she said/did that she didn't want to?
I wonder how many of her decisions as president would have been controlled by 'powers'.
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The only thing more stupid than this twat still trying to make excuses for her behavior and epic failure in the campaign are the people who are still trying to defend her.
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Well, that's because kennedy didn't go on Couric, Gibson, etc.
Palin was up for a MUCH bigger job. Let's face it - everyone here minimized obama's experience cause he was 'only' a senator. well, she will 'only' be a sub senator for 18 months.
Holy Christ,she has done 30 interviews since and you still harp on those,she did fine on Gibson by the way HE was the one that dint have a clue what the Bush doctrine was.I have yet to hear your outrage over dumb ass Biden saying FDR was president in 1929 and went on television or telling a cripple to stand up.Can you find ANYTHING Palin has ever said that comes close to those retarded statements.
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Haters. :)
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Haters. :)
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Haha... a magazine about Alaska claiming she's the hottest governor.
Funny.
I'd bet right now, she's about as hot as a frozen pond to most people... aside from you zany right wing christian types.
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Haters. :)
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Gee - a state magazine claiming their governor is "hot"
Who'da thunk it
That cover is from February 2008
Her popularity had been dropping like a dead turkey in recent months
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The most recent gauge of her popularity isn't looking so rosy:
Alaska Standard / Dittman Research (R)
12/5-20/08 (released 1/7/09); 505 adults, 4.4% margin of error
Mode: Live Telephone Interviews
Alaska 2010 Senate
Republican Primary: Murkowski (R-i) 57, Palin (R) 33
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Haters. :)
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I didn't know "hot" was what we wanted in leaders.
Maybe we can have Mark Wahlberg and Fabio broker a middle-east peace deal, then?
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I didn't know "hot" was what we wanted in leaders.
Maybe we can have Mark Wahlberg and Fabio broker a middle-east peace deal, then?
Fabio???
How about Hale Berry or Jessica Alba
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Haha... a magazine about Alaska claiming she's the hottest governor.
Funny.
I'd bet right now, she's about as hot as a frozen pond to most people... aside from you zany right wing christian types.
I think the paranoid anti-religious extremists absolutely hate this woman. Now that's funny. :)
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I think the paranoid anti-religious extremists absolutely hate this woman. Now that's funny. :)
yeah that must be why she's polling so low in Alaska
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I think the paranoid anti-religious extremists absolutely hate this woman. Now that's funny. :)
Actually, if you ask around, most people don't hate her... I know I don't.
They just think she's a buffoon... Only the Neo-Con right wing christian types think she is not.
Take a poll.
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Gee - a state magazine claiming their governor is "hot"
Who'da thunk it
That cover is from February 2008
Her popularity had been dropping like a dead turkey in recent months
Yes,unlike Caroline Kennedy who has been in her house for thirty years not interacting with anyone.
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Actually, if you ask around, most people don't hate her... I know I don't.
They just think she's a buffoon... Only the Neo-Con right wing christian types think she is not.
Take a poll.
exactly, but Bum, like a certain segment of the right wing likes to feel persecuted. They play the victim card all the time. In fact Palin is doing that herself in her most recent rounds of "look at me" interviews.
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Actually, if you ask around, most people don't hate her... I know I don't.
They just think she's a buffoon... Only the Neo-Con right wing christian types think she is not.
Take a poll.
Dude I could take a "poll" and get whatever results I want. I doubt Alaska is full of "Neo-Con right wing christian types," whatever that means. I also doubt the governors from the 50 states who thought she was the most popular governor in the country are "Neo-Con right wing christian types" either. In large part, it's the anti-religious extremists, and liberal lapdogs, who are terrified of the woman.
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Dude I could take a "poll" and get whatever results I want. I doubt Alaska is full of "Neo-Con right wing christian types," whatever that means. I also doubt the governors from the 50 states who thought she was the most popular governor in the country are "Neo-Con right wing christian types" either. In large part, it's the anti-religious extremists, and liberal lapdogs, who are terrified of the woman.
So why is her approval rating so low now if she's still so great?
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So why is her approval rating so low now if she's still so great?
What approval rating are you talking about? Her approval ratings as governor approached or maybe even exceeded 90 percent.
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What approval rating are you talking about? Her approval ratings as governor approached or maybe even exceeded 90 percent.
Then why is she behind for her senate bid?
The most recent gauge of her popularity isn't looking so rosy:
Alaska Standard / Dittman Research (R)
12/5-20/08 (released 1/7/09); 505 adults, 4.4% margin of error
Mode: Live Telephone Interviews
Alaska 2010 Senate
Republican Primary: Murkowski (R-i) 57, Palin (R) 33
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So why is her approval rating so low now if she's still so great?
Bum doesn't recognize the linear nature of time.
If she ever had a high approval rating then she must always have one
In one respect Bum might be right since the linear nature of time is probably just an artifact of our senses
I'm sure that's what he meant
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Then why is she behind for her senate bid?
She's running for senate? News to me. If she runs, she likely wins. The people of her state love her.
How do you explain her astronomically high approval ratings as governor?
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She's running for senate? News to me. If she runs, she likely wins. The people of her state love her.
How do you explain her astronomically high approval ratings as governor?
It's more of an "If she ran for Senate", but she's behind in the poll which was provided... Are you casually ignoring that part?
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She's running for senate? News to me. If she runs, she likely wins. The people of her state love her.
How do you explain her astronomically high approval ratings as governor?
Ignorance?
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It's more of an "If she ran for Senate", but she's behind in the poll which was provided... Are you casually ignoring that part?
more like willful ignorance
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It's more of an "If she ran for Senate", but she's behind in the poll which was provided... Are you casually ignoring that part?
She's behind in a poll for an office she isn't yet seeking. Big deal. I'd place far more emphasis on how the people who put her in office judge her performance. How do you spin her sky high job approval ratings?
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She's behind in a poll for an office she isn't yet seeking. Big deal. I'd place far more emphasis on how the people who put her in office judge her performance. How do you spin her sky high job approval ratings?
Well, those people don't get to eat a lot of cheeseburgers either, so they may not know what a cheeseburger tastes like even.
If you eat badger all day, you'll say it's the best thing on the planet... until one day, you actually get to eat a cheeseburger and then you realize what you've been missing the whole time.
All of a sudden... badger sucks.
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She's behind in a poll for an office she isn't yet seeking. Big deal. I'd place far more emphasis on how the people who put her in office judge her performance. How do you spin her sky high job approval ratings?
Bum - that poll conducted in December 2008 and released in January 2009
It's the most recent guage of her popularity and has relevence
I'll concede that it can't be construed as indicator of her as governor and can be skewed since it's comparing her to the incumbant Repub Senator. Still it's something that can't be completely discounted just on those terms.
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Well, those people don't get to eat a lot of cheeseburgers either, so they may not know what a cheeseburger tastes like even.
If you eat badger all day, you'll say it's the best thing on the planet... until one day, you actually get to eat a cheeseburger and then you realize what you've been missing the whole time.
All of a sudden... badger sucks.
Wait. She was elected to city council. She was elected mayor. She was elected governor. Her approval ratings as governor were probably the highest in the country. The governors of 50 states had a similar view. But the people of Alaska didn't actually know who or what she was? Is that what you believe?
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Wait. She was elected to city council. She was elected mayor. She was elected governor. Her approval ratings as governor were probably the highest in the country. The governors of 50 states had a similar view. But the people of Alaska didn't actually know who or what she was? Is that what you believe?
Seems the people of the US certainly believed it.
I for one am inclined to think so as well...
BTW it's governor's of 49 states... SHE was the 50th, so she wouldn't have really had a viable opinion on herself.
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Seems the people of the US certainly believed it.
I for one am inclined to think so as well...
BTW it's governor's of 49 states... SHE was the 50th, so she wouldn't have really had a viable opinion on herself.
But I was asking you to explain her high job approval ratings. Your explanation is that the people of her state didn't really know her. That is contradicted by the fact they her elected her to three different offices.
O.K. The governors of 49 states. Still pretty significant, unless they were all "Neo-Con right wing christian types." :)
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But I was asking you to explain her high job approval ratings. Your explanation is that the people of her state didn't really know her. That is contradicted by the fact they her elected her to three different offices.
O.K. The governors of 49 states. Still pretty significant, unless they were all "Neo-Con right wing christian types." :)
No... I'd say that it's much more likely that they just all sat in a room and said, let's give it to the chick from the black hole of Alaska.
You think that governor's are so awesome and always know what they're talking about?
Oh wait... you think they are totally incorruptible and only speak the truth.
Let's see... Bush? Blagojevich?
Sure... Being governor is special. ::)
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No... I'd say that it's much more likely that they just all sat in a room and said, let's give it to the chick from the black hole of Alaska.
You think that governor's are so awesome and always know what they're talking about?
Oh wait... you think they are totally incorruptible and only speak the truth.
Let's see... Bush? Blagojevich?
Sure... Being governor is special. ::)
No, I don't think governors are "so awesome and always know what they're talking about." I don't believe governors "are totally incorruptible and only speak the truth." I think you and others are wrong when you say Palin is not popular, because her job approval ratings and 49 governors say otherwise. You can try and expand that to some ridiculous overstatement, but it's really just a simple point: people of her state like her (and many of her critics are irrational). They've had a chance to see her in various state offices. She must be doing something right.
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There a good chance that most of the voters in Alaska never heard her speak at length, if even at all.
Most probably voted for her because she was "hot" or "folksy" and could shoot a moose, etc... which is all fine if those are all you're looking for in a leader.
Once she got on the world stage and revealed herself to be something less than knowledgable on a number of issues as well as making silly and embarrassing statements I'm sure her shine was a little duller with the people back home.
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No... I'd say that it's much more likely that they just all sat in a room and said, let's give it to the chick from the black hole of Alaska.
You think that governor's are so awesome and always know what they're talking about?
Oh wait... you think they are totally incorruptible and only speak the truth.
Let's see... Bush? Blagojevich?
Sure... Being governor is special. ::)
BUSH WENT ON TO BECOME PRESIDENT.Senators are great?How about Larry Craig?
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No, I don't think governors are "so awesome and always know what they're talking about." I don't believe governors "are totally incorruptible and only speak the truth." I think you and others are wrong when you say Palin is not popular, because her job approval ratings and 49 governors say otherwise. You can try and expand that to some ridiculous overstatement, but it's really just a simple point: people of her state like her (and many of her critics are irrational). They've had a chance to see her in various state offices. She must be doing something right.
She kept her mouth shut before... She talked about hunting and fishing and killing shit... That's what the people IN Alaska like... It's not what the rest of the country likes or NEEDS.
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BUSH WENT ON TO BECOME PRESIDENT.Senators are great?How about Larry Craig?
The worst president in the history of this country.
Craig was an idiot too... Another Republican who says gays are sinners right... ::)
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She kept her mouth shut before... She talked about hunting and fishing and killing shit... That's what the people IN Alaska like... It's not what the rest of the country likes or NEEDS.
So she didn't run public campaigns for three offices, didn't make campaign speeches, didn't have public debates, didn't hold press conferences, and didn't regularly talk to the public about anything except hunting and fishing? There were also committee hearings, etc., most of which had to be public. That's some funny spin.
It's really not that hard to admit that the woman is well liked by the people who know her best.
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So she didn't run public campaigns for three offices, didn't make campaign speeches, didn't have public debates, didn't hold press conferences, and didn't regularly talk to the public about anything except hunting and fishing? There were also committee hearings, etc., most of which had to be public. That's some funny spin.
It's really not that hard to admit that the woman is well liked by the people who know her best.
You mean those who are very similar to her?
Yes, I'll admit that there's probably lots of right wing, extreme Christian, Witch Hunter, Neo-Cons in Alaska who like to hunt Wolves from planes and eat Moose meat.
Happy?
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You mean those who are very similar to her?
Yes, I'll admit that there's probably lots of right wing, extreme Christian, Witch Hunter, Neo-Cons in Alaska who like to hunt Wolves from planes and eat Moose meat.
Happy?
lol. So now it's "right wing, extreme Christian, Witch Hunter, Neo-Cons" who are responsible for her being repeatedly elected to public office and for her very high approval ratings? lol. . . . I don't really expect you to say anything crazy, like: "Maybe I was mistaken. She was one of the most popular governors in the country. Governors around the country had the same opinion as the people of her state. Maybe it's possible she actually knew what she was doing."
That would be expecting too much. :)
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lol. So now it's "right wing, extreme Christian, Witch Hunter, Neo-Cons" who are responsible for her being repeatedly elected to public office and for her very high approval ratings? lol. . . . I don't really expect you to say anything crazy, like: "Maybe I was mistaken. She was one of the most popular governors in the country. Governors around the country had the same opinion as the people of her state. Maybe it's possible she actually knew what she was doing."
That would be expecting too much. :)
No, that would be me lying... Bridge to nowhere ring a bell?
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No, that would be me lying... Bridge to nowhere ring a bell?
Bridge to nowhere ring a bell about what? I thought we were talking about all those right wing neo-con Christian nuts in Alaska responsible for Palin's job approval ratings?
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caroline and sarah are treated differently because of their sex than some alcoholic like john mcain
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Yes,unlike Caroline Kennedy who has been in her house for thirty years not interacting with anyone.
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brutal subject change.
hey, sarah palin is unqualified to be president.
But jon bon jovi is even less qualified.
therefore palin is suddenly more qualified than someone, and the subject has been changed. Great work!
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Bridge to nowhere ring a bell about what? I thought we were talking about all those right wing neo-con Christian nuts in Alaska responsible for Palin's job approval ratings?
You said she knew what she was doing... I say the bridge to nowhere shows otherwise.
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You said she knew what she was doing... I say the bridge to nowhere shows otherwise.
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Whoa. You mean she may have made a mistake. Or worse, changed her mind? :o
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Whoa. You mean she may have made a mistake. Or worse, changed her mind? :o
That's not changing your mind... that's asking for money for something ridiculous.
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Whoa. You mean she may have made a mistake. Or worse, changed her mind? :o
or flip flopped when it became a political liability and then lied and tried to re-write history
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or flip flopped when it became a political liability and then lied and tried to re-write history
That never happens in politics.Al Gore used to be staunchly pro-life,but knew he couldnt get elected nationally by dems so he changed.Jesse Jackson was pro-life now he is pro choice.Great point.Politicians always hold to their standards.Didnt Bill Clinton PROMISE tax cuts for the middle class?Didnt Bush 1 promise no new taxes?Didnt Pelosi say her congress would be the most ethical?Please,to pick on one person is silly.
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She kept her mouth shut before... She talked about hunting and fishing and killing shit... That's what the people IN Alaska like... It's not what the rest of the country likes or NEEDS.
The country NEEDS the government to STAY THE HELL OUT OF OUR BUISINESS.Go away and leave us alone!!
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That never happens in politics.Al Gore used to be staunchly pro-life,but knew he couldnt get elected nationally by dems so he changed.Jesse Jackson was pro-life now he is pro choice.Great point.Politicians always hold to their standards.Didnt Bill Clinton PROMISE tax cuts for the middle class?Didnt Bush 1 promise no new taxes?Didnt Pelosi say her congress would be the most ethical?Please,to pick on one person is silly.
I never said it never happens - just calling it what it is.
Palin lying about it later was just the icing on the cake
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The country NEEDS the government to STAY THE HELL OUT OF OUR BUISINESS.Go away and leave us alone!!
Too many people love the Nanny State and want everything without regard to how its paid for.
1. Free Health Care
2. Welfare cradle to grave
3. Free Education
4. Free housing
5. Fat taxes
6. Cigarette taxes
7. "Livable wage" laws
And on and on and on.
The same government who screwed up Immigration, Social Security, Katrina, and Iraq can not be trusted to run health care ort anything else for that matter.
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Too many people love the Nanny State and want everything without regard to how its paid for.
1. Free Health Care
2. Welfare cradle to grave
3. Free Education
4. Free housing
5. Fat taxes
6. Cigarette taxes
7. "Livable wage" laws
And on and on and on.
The same government who screwed up Immigration, Social Security, Katrina, and Iraq can not be trusted to run health care ort anything else for that matter.
you should probably just leave the country
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you should probably just leave the country
I should leave the country because I dont want to be a ward of the state and have every facet of my life dictated to by the government like in 1984 by Orwell?
You clowns clamoring for more government involvement in your lives need to take a little trip down to the motor vehicle department and see if you want those type of people making your daily life decisions.
Let's all just vote ourselves "free everything" and everything will be great right?
Maybe you are comfortable with that, I am not.
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I should leave the country because I dont want to be a ward of the state and have every facet of my life dictated to by the government like in 1984 by Orwell?
You clowns clamoring for more government involvement in your lives need to take a little trip down to the motor vehicle department and see if you want those type of people making your daily life decisions.
Let's all just vote ourselves "free everything" and everything will be great right?
Maybe you are comfortable with that, I am not.
I'm still waiting for my free housing but I do agree that you should leave.
The sooner the better
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I'm still waiting for my free housing but I do agree that you should leave.
The sooner the better
God forbid anyone express dissent against the excesses of government right?
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God forbid anyone express dissent against the excesses of government right?
Not at all but your list is absurd and you seem so unhappy that it just seems like you'd be happier somewhere else.
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Not at all but your list is absurd and you seem so unhappy that it just seems like you'd be happier somewhere else.
No,we would be happy here IF the wicked,rotten,dirty government would FOLLOW THE CONSTITUTION!!!!Please tell me where the founding fathers EVER gave the government power to controll every aspect of our lives.Right now,there is an attempt to make ALL supplements fall under FDA controll.Where do they get the right to do that?Where do they get the right stealing our money and giving it to scum bags.YOU AND THE REST OF THOSE MINDLESS GOVERNMENT FOOLS SHOULD LEAVE and give America back to the people!
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Not at all but your list is absurd and you seem so unhappy that it just seems like you'd be happier somewhere else.
Not really, I just see where we are going, and it is not pretty.
The founding fathers of this great country started a revolution to escape economic and other types of oppression by government.
We are heading down the same road that led others to start a revolution. at a certain point, people are going to revolt ala the Boston Tea Party because they are sick of going to work and having their money pissed down the toilet by bureaucrats, welfare bums, illegal aliens, wealthy elites who profit off of government contracts, etc etc.
By forcing productive taxpayers to fork over more and more of the the fruits of their labor there is a soft type of tyranny that is encroaching that will eventually lead to either a revolt or something worse. Productive people simply will not believe it worthwhile to be productive anymore.
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Not really, I just see where we are going, and it is not pretty.
The founding fathers of this great country started a revolution to escape economic and other types of oppression by government.
We are heading down the same road that led others to start a revolution. at a certain point, people are going to revolt ala the Boston Tea Party because they are sick of going to work and having their money pissed down the toilet by bureaucrats, welfare bums, illegal aliens, wealthy elites who profit off of government contracts, etc etc.
By forcing productive taxpayers to fork over more and more of the the fruits of their labor there is a soft type of tyranny that is encroaching that will eventually lead to either a revolt or something worse. Productive people simply will not believe it worthwhile to be productive anymore.
wasn't the revolutionary war about taxation without representation?
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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/01/13/usually-blunt-meghan-mccain-goes-silent-on-sarah-palin/
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wasn't the revolutionary war about taxation without representation?
Exactly - the taxpayers are not being represented.
1. Illegal aliens - 75% want them out.
2. English as a National Language - Most want it.
3. Gay marriage - most are against it yet the judges and pols still defy the public
4. School Budgets - taxpayers vote down budgets only to have the schools boards screw them in other ways.
Additionally, you have millions of non-taxpayers who get representation without taxation.
That list is too long to list.
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Exactly - the taxpayers are not being represented.
1. Illegal aliens - 75% want them out.
2. English as a National Language - Most want it.
3. Gay marriage - most are against it yet the judges and pols still defy the public
4. School Budgets - taxpayers vote down budgets only to have the schools boards screw them in other ways.
Additionally, you have millions of non-taxpayers who get representation without taxation.
That list is too long to list.
I've got no time this morning for this but none of what you listed has any comparison to the factors that led to the founding of this country and more so, have nothing to do with Palin
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I've got no time this morning for this but none of what you listed has any comparison to the factors that led to the founding of this country and more so, have nothing to do with Palin
The fact is Palin won when she ran for mayor,won when she ran for governor.She did it the good old fashioned way,she earned it.You dont like her,the people of Alaska do.You can insult them all you want,but thats who counts.Now,lets compare her ride to that half wit Kennedy.Never held a job,cant speak,hid for thirty years and now she wants to be a senator,so as a Kennedy,she is enititled.Disgusting!!
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The fact is Palin won when she ran for mayor,won when she ran for governor.She did it the good old fashioned way,she earned it.You dont like her,the people of Alaska do.You can insult them all you want,but thats who counts.Now,lets compare her ride to that half wit Kennedy.Never held a job,cant speak,hid for thirty years and now she wants to be a senator,so as a Kennedy,she is enititled.Disgusting!!
the people of Alaska are welcome to keep her
She's far out of her league on the national and international stage.....as evidenced by the results of the election last November.
I don't care about Kennedy.
Not my problem
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the people of Alaska are welcome to keep her
She's far out of her league on the national and international stage.....as evidenced by the results of the election last November.
I don't care about Kennedy.
Not my problem
Yes it is your problem if she is 1 of 100 who votes on national issues.
I live in NY and this is a disgrace.
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The fact is Palin won when she ran for mayor,won when she ran for governor.She did it the good old fashioned way,she earned it.You dont like her,the people of Alaska do.You can insult them all you want,but thats who counts.Now,lets compare her ride to that half wit Kennedy.Never held a job,cant speak,hid for thirty years and now she wants to be a senator,so as a Kennedy,she is enititled.Disgusting!!
Why are we comparing her to Kennedy... This is a Palin thread, not a Kennedy thread.
Yes, the people in Alaska like her... the rest of the country minus a few of the right wing Christians didn't.
She can stay in Alaska and look over Russia all she wants to... Works for me... but she needs to stay there where she belongs.
I don't think Kennedy should be getting that Senate spot either... She doesn't deserve it.
Hell, I didn't think Hillary deserved it either... She wasn't from NY and used a loophole just to run and get in... I thought it was a travesty.
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Too many people love the Nanny State and want everything without regard to how its paid for.
1. Free Health Care
2. Welfare cradle to grave
3. Free Education
4. Free housing
5. Fat taxes
6. Cigarette taxes
7. "Livable wage" laws
And on and on and on.
The same government who screwed up Immigration, Social Security, Katrina, and Iraq can not be trusted to run health care ort anything else for that matter.
That's certainly been part of the Democrat agenda for years. I was listening to a Bonier, a member of Obama's transition team, on Sunday morning talking about expanding government and using government to correct the income/wealth disparity. Part of the way he wants to do this is by increasing the number of unions.
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I'd like
Free Healthcare
Wealthfare cradle to grave
Free Education
Free Housing
So far I havne't gotten any of that
BTW - the Repug Model is to privatize the profits and socialize the losses.
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I'd like
Free Healthcare
Wealthfare cradle to grave
Free Education
Free Housing
So far I havne't gotten any of that
BTW - the Repug Model is to privatize the profits and socialize the losses.
I have told you before I am more of a libertarian than anything.
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I have told you before I am more of a libertarian than anything.
Libertarian seems good on paper and I share many of the same views but it's not really workable in the real world
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brutal subject change.
hey, sarah palin is unqualified to be president.
But jon bon jovi is even less qualified.
therefore palin is suddenly more qualified than someone, and the subject has been changed. Great work!
(http://www.kroushlconflict.com/blog/uploaded_images/jon_bon_jovi_02-793888.jpg)
Palin is a governor.The vast majority of great president were governors.People like you insulted Ronald Reagan as being stupid as well.All he doid was SINGLE HANDIDLY end the cold war[fighting the dems every step of the way].Palin is 100 times more qualified to be vice president then Kennedy is to be a senator AND she is more qualified then the bumbling,stupid jack ass Joe Biden,whos accomplishments are giving the government more power to fight drugs and take away more of our rights."DAM THE SCIENCE.STEROIDS NEED TO BE BANNED".
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Libertarian seems good on paper and I share many of the same views but it's not really workable in the real world
Which ones are not workable???????????
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Which ones are not workable???????????
tell me one country that in any way comes close to your Libertarian ideal?
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tell me one country that in any way comes close to your Libertarian ideal?
That's not the point. You said libertarian ideas are not workable. I asked you which ones?
Again:
Which libertarian ideals do you think are "unworkable"?
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That's not the point. You said libertarian ideas are not workable. I asked you which ones?
Again:
Which libertarian ideals do you think are "unworkable"?
I have no idea what you identify as a libertarian idea.
Here's a link to the Libertarian Party Platform: http://www.lp.org/platform
I agree in part with many libertarian principles and many are incorporated to some degree into our system of government but I don't think you can point to any successful purely libertarian government (I don't know of any). Most libertarians believe in a pure free market but that will inevitably lead to monopolies, lack of competition and eventually lack of creativity and innovation. The same goes for banking, education, health care, environmental laws etc...
btw - what does this have to do with Palin