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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Method101 on July 21, 2009, 07:27:17 AM
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Heres an interview with Craig Titus where he comments on Branch Warren saying "that's 3grams of test a week".
Obviously this opinion is coming from somone with expierience who had alot of inside information and no doubt he probably had personal expierience with those dosages.
So, the reality is IFBB pros drug usage is severly underestimated by average people and is not as low as Milos and Bob Chick want you to believe.
p.s, also please forget the notion that "drugs are only 10% of the physique". We all know that Ronnie was 300lbs with abs, as a natural he would probably been 220lbs with abs.
80lbs of muscle is not only "10%".
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Well...there's the voice of reason....convicted murderer Craig Titus
The drugs add whatever they add....not sure any % can be attributed. They dont make a pitbull out of a chihuahua...as evidenced by our own Mindspin, who despite taking boatloads of drugs, couldn't get out of the local level.
What % do you attribute Lawrence Taylor's success to cocaine?
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Well...there's the voice of reason....convicted murderer Craig Titus
The drugs add whatever they add....not sure any % can be attributed. They dont make a pitbull out of a chihuahua...as evidenced by our own Mindspin, who despite taking boatloads of drugs, couldn't get out of the local level.
What % do you attribute Lawrence Taylor's success to cocaine?
There you go again trying to equate a male beauty pageant with a sport that requires athletic ability and skill. Can I get an "oh brother"?
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Well...there's the voice of reason....convicted murderer Craig Titus
The drugs add whatever they add....not sure any % can be attributed. They dont make a pitbull out of a chihuahua...as evidenced by our own Mindspin, who despite taking boatloads of drugs, couldn't get out of the local level.
What % do you attribute Lawrence Taylor's success to cocaine?
oh that is the funniest post I read in ages,,,poor mindspin all funny
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Liars for their own benefit. Go tell Chad Nichols that Milos says 750mg of test per week is the average of a pro... ffs 750mg is lower than state level guys.
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murderer or not, he has insider knowledge and expierience on what the top level guys are taking and his estimate is 3grams of test alone, which is atleast triple what Chick/Milos would have you believe.
Not to mention the 10ius of GH every 6 hours.
And humalog post workouts lol.
source of this info = gh15
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There you go again trying to equate a male beauty pageant with a sport that requires athletic ability and skill. Can I get an "oh brother"?
Answer the question
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Well...there's the voice of reason....convicted murderer Craig Titus
The drugs add whatever they add....not sure any % can be attributed. They dont make a pitbull out of a chihuahua...as evidenced by our own Mindspin, who despite taking boatloads of drugs, couldn't get out of the local level.
What % do you attribute Lawrence Taylor's success to cocaine?
:D
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murderer or not, he has insider knowledge and expierience on what the top level guys are taking and his estimate is 3grams of test alone, which is atleast triple what Chick/Milos would have you believe.
Not to mention the 10ius of GH every 6 hours.
And humalog post workouts lol.
source of this info = gh15
LOL...laughable.
Guess if your hero Craig said it, it must be true
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Ok we must say that the physiques are 60% drugs, and within that 60%, 50% of it is the dosage and 50% is the genetic response.
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its not in the pros benefit to tell the truth, afterall people still has to think the pro archieved the "after" picture with a revolutionairy supplement.
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Liars for their own benefit. Go tell Chad Nichols that Milos says 750mg of test per week is the average of a pro... ffs 750mg is lower than state level guys.
At the state level... 1000mg-1500mg a week is norm.
I know middleweights who aren't much heavier than 165lbs who use over a gram a week not to mention the anti-estrogens, insulin and growth just to NOT place and qualify at the local level.
- Block!
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At the state level... 1000mg-1500mg a week is norm.
I know middleweights who aren't much heavier than 165lbs who use over a gram a week not to mention the anti-estrogens, insulin and growth just to NOT place and qualify at the local level.
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Yup. I said 750mg because that's what Milos claimed most of his athletes used when he was asked on the radio a couple months ago.
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At the state level... 1000mg-1500mg a week is norm.
I know middleweights who aren't much heavier than 165lbs who use over a gram a week not to mention the anti-estrogens, insulin and growth just to NOT place and qualify at the local level.
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How would it look to all the dim wits and kids out there that Chick peddles his supplements to if he were actually honest? I'm guessing bb.com revenue would take a bit of a hit, huh, Chick?
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Bob, you seem to dismiss Craig's claims rather bruskly. I wonder if you would do so to Craig's face?
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"Have you seen the size of Cutler's head and jaw!?"
classic
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Craiggers is a man of honesty, no doubt.
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LOL...laughable.
Guess if your hero Craig said it, it must be true
Speaking of Branch Warren didn't he almost die after taking diuretic advice from your fellow low-doser Tom Prince? Was Tom also advising you when you ended up in the hospital?
Branch did turn pro at that show though so it was worth the risk I guess. :D
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Speaking of Branch Warren didn't he almost die after taking diuretic advice from your fellow low-doser Tom Prince? Was Tom also advising you when you ended up in the hospital?
Branch did turn pro at that show though so it was worth the risk I guess. :D
only if he walked away with his plastic trophy
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only if he walked away with his plastic trophy
Small story: At the 2001 Nationals, I got a call from a friend of mine, Ed Pariso, who asked me if I'd take a minute to go look at one of his friends. The kid was staying at the host hotel, just like I was, so I agreed.
So, I get to the kid's room, and he introduces himself as Branch Warren. Brach is basically alone, other than the one friend who was there helping him get ready for the show. He was already in his posing trunks, so he hit a few poses in the bathroom mirror, so that I could check out how his physique looked.
"Well, if you lose 5 pounds of water, you'll win", I said, offering my opinion.
"NO WAY!", says Branch's friend.
"Well, OK. I'm not going to argue about what my opinion is. My advice would be, lose 5 pounds of water", and I opened the door, ready to go back to my room.
Branch stopped me. "Wait, Tom. 5 pounds, huh?"
"Yeap", I returned.
Branch had no diuretics with him, so I had to give him a tab or two of the diurectic I had brought for the girl I was helping.
Next day, 5 pounds lighter, Branch was clearly the best heavyweight on stage that night.
And.. just to finish the story off... Branch turned pro 24 hours later. Obviously, Branch was grateful, and thanked me about 10 times that night.
Branch was so nice and humble, that I was happy to help such a great person. Win or lose, he was mad cool.
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Well...there's the voice of reason....convicted murderer Craig Titus
The drugs add whatever they add....not sure any % can be attributed. They dont make a pitbull out of a chihuahua...as evidenced by our own Mindspin, who despite taking boatloads of drugs, couldn't get out of the local level.
What % do you attribute Lawrence Taylor's success to cocaine?
Ha ha! I'm so in your head. First, I didn't use "boat loads" Over a 4 year period, I went on and off a few cycles. Never did GH, insulin or any of the other crap you guys are using nowadays.
That said, I will agree with you. Drugs can only do so much. Take you for example. You've been pumping yourself full of hormones for about 40 years, and still you placed last at the Mr. Olympia. No amount of drugs could turn you into Ronnie Coleman. It must suck to be so shitty at something you love so much....hahhahahah!!
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An alternative opinion.
I think people just want to know the truth.
In other countries, top amateurs and some of the pros post their entire preps, drugs included, as they are not illegal to use in that country.
The issue is that they are in the US, and the consequences are quite severe.
What Do the Pros Take?
Written by John Romano
Tuesday, 21 July 2009 02:16
Many of you wonder; many of you ask; but why doesn't anyone really know? It's such a powerful question because the top guys are so over the top that you just can't imagine the standard training and performance-enhancing fare we are all privy to can produce the physiques that comprise the very zenith of bodybuilding? I mean, if it was, we would all look like that, right? Could it be possible we're just talking test and tren here? Nahhh.... Couldn't be. It has to be something else, right?
The first thing I want to ponder is why is it such a goddamned secret in the first place? Why won't pro bodybuilders tell us what they take? Because using drugs is taboo? Maybe it's because they're illegal? Whatever the case, they all use them; some are purportedly using tons. But why won't they tell us? Is it because the guys take them just can't admit what an insipid little thing they've gotten themselves into? All top level pro bodybuilders use drugs, but what do they really do?
So, what's the big secret fellas? This is interesting and potentially helpful stuff. It's not like you invented anything. Most pros have some guru telling them what to do anyway. I sat in on many sessions with Dan Duchaine and some of his charges back in the day. I was eating with him one day at the Fire House and Mr. Olympia showed up! So let's not pretend it's no big deal. Duchaine was the administrator of some pretty crazy shit. I know. I saw it firsthand.
While Dan pulled his secrets out of his own little black bag, other bodybuilders over the years have been known to corral themselves an MD, or a chemist, or an endocrinologist, to find a more protected and antiseptic rout to the same end. Those fortunate enough to really get into the upper echelon were privy to all kinds of Olympic-caliber custom-made drugs. They got them from laboratories, from guys in white lab coats, packed in nice shiny 100% real-deal bottles, autoclave sterile and chock full of the month's flavor of exploderone. Anyway you slice it, by all the accounts that have come through my office over the years from all over the world, one thing is absolutely certain, some of you guys do a lot of fuckin' drugs!
It's not so much the drugs themselves-- I'll cover the specific ones I know of in a minute-- it's how they take them and how much some guys have been known to take that's mind boggling, if not bone chilling. Did you know at one point there were bodybuilding death pools? Crazy when you think this thing of ours evolved from something supposedly healthy.
When I did my first cycle in 1981 it was about making a 6-week pyramid stack out of a single bottle of Dianabol. It's gone way, way, beyond that today. I have to say that there was a peak in the mid to late 90s where things were really insane. I think that had more to do with the learning curve the gurus were on than standard bodybuilding mentality. Remember, their charges also had to be willing lab rats. Nevertheless, I find the work some of these gurus have done, and are still doing, extremely interesting and no less important to the bodybuilding community at large. While many think Duchaine was a madman, the truth is anyone who uses anabolics owes him, and guys like him, a great debt of gratitude. There was no doctor then, or now, willing to prescribe a contest stack. And, Mr. Olympia isn't going to tell Jay Leno about all the shit he's taking on late-night TV. The information is out there though; it just wants to be kept quiet. The public can't fathom its depth because it's too outrageous. They proved that after Andreas Munzer died and the German news magazine Der Spiegel printed his stack. "Holy Shit!" everybody said when they read it. No wonder he died.
Well, when you get done reading this, you're going to say, "holy shit!" I can't believe these guys are alive."
The gurus and bodybuilders talk amongst themselves, and they damn well should; they have to. There is no other means by which bodybuilding pharmacology can be disseminated, assessed, honed, and perfected. The bodybuilding-type research these guys need isn't being studied by the mainstream medical community, peer reviewed, and published in prestigious journals. There are no university studies with a protocol that requires 4000 - 5000 mg, or more, of testosterone a week per subject. For better or worse, bodybuilding is proven in the trenches. Where else would warriors line up willingly as test subjects? You've got to have balls in order to lose them, and they do on both counts.
Pushing 500 mg of Sustanon into the side of your ass once a week is so last century. Today needles are poking into delts and biceps peaks and various locations in each triceps head; site-injecting master mixes of potent androgens and mid-range anabolics combined with long and short acting testosterones and exotic testosterone blends dissolved in locatable oils (Synthol). Multiple shots-- every day-- deep into each muscle belly.
The front line androgens and steroids are pretty much the same as they have always been; it's just the mixing and the amounts that are different. Very different indeed. Many guys divide their juice up into different stacks that change throughout the cycle-- bulking and cutting. Duchaine advocated getting a big 100 cc bottle with a rubber stopper and a crimp ring from the local laboratory supply shop, gathering up all the gear for a particular array, sterilize everything and mix a big hormone cocktail using Synthol as the base. Rather than draw out of several different vials each time they take a shot, they simply draw out of the mix. When that one is done they mix up another for a different phase of their cycle. Hormone bartending, if you will.
Here's the thing about Synthol. Regardless of all the horror stories associated with it and the carpet of denials that intended to cover up its use, lots of guys use it today. There is a clear advantage to it. Abusing it yields stupid looking and often deleterious results. The screw-ups are the ones you usually hear about in any community. This is no different-- the guys with big ludicrous fake looking arms and delts that don't move are using too much Synthol. Some of them get huge abscesses and permanent disfigurement. But make no mistake, the stuff works, and used properly-- as most who use it do-- can yield incredible results, especially mixed with juice. The theory is, the oil occupies space in the muscle, forcing the fibers apart making the muscle appear larger. For some reason this is believed to cause the body to build more tissue to fill up the space, especially since the drugs are in there too on their way into the rest of the body. It's radical and painful, but the result can't be denied. Just look at the next pro line up - never have so many guns broken the 20 inch mark.
The basic bodybuilding block for most bodybuilders is and has always been testosterone. Guys are combining short acting testosterones such as propionate and acetate for rapid response growth, then medium acting testosterones such as Cypionate and Enanthate which keeps fluctuating testosterone levels in check giving a more predictable response with a minimum of side effects, and then long acting testosterones such as undecanoate for that lingering effect after the cycle is over. Some guys add these to blended testosterones such as Sustanon, Testoviron or Sten just to make sure all the bases are covered. Astoundingly, it was not uncommon for a top pro to be pumping 4000- 5000 mg, or more, a week of such concoctions.
This really isn't as bad as it sounds, if you are one of the guys who can control himself. Recent research shows that short, high dose, cycles are more effective than long medium dose cycles. Some guys followed that theory and did quite well with it in spite of the super high dose. Unfortunately, others looked at the research with their bodybuilder mentality (more is more) and concluded long-term high dose cycles would therefore have to be most effective, and they stayed oiled all year round, for years on end, with all the ancillary drugs that went with it. Did I mention the death pools?
On top of the androgens, bodybuilders stack an array of steroids. Most steroids are inaccurately termed "anabolic." In fact, most synthetic steroids are designed to resemble testosterone, yet have differences which make the steroid either more anabolic or more androgenic. Using testosterone as the baseline androgen, those drugs which are less powerful androgenically would be termed anabolic, while those with less anabolic activity would be termed androgenic. Most androgenic steroids are correspondingly highly anabolic, while the least androgenic steroids are usually less powerful anabolically. Some steroids have been designed to be concomitantly more anabolic and more androgenic. What shrewd bodybuilders do is initially choose steroids which are highly anabolic while giving up a modicum of androgenic side effects such as, Sustanon, D-bol, Andriol, Trenbolone, then-- as the contest grows near-- switch over to steroids which are the least androgenic, such as Primobolan acetate, Deca, Anavar, Winstrol, etc., even if that means (in most cases it does) giving up a certain amount of anabolic activity.
With several thousand milligrams of testosterone coming in, finding the dosages and combinations of auxiliary steroids is a matter of great conjecture. Some gurus are clever enough to arrive at their charge's optimal dose using a little process known as receptor mapping. By carefully monitoring and gradually increasing the steroids dose, one can actually "map" the steroids effect, at the receptor level in the muscle cells, until it spills over to other receptors such as those contained in the hair follicles, skin and sebaceous glands. This method should enable the user to calculate the maximum effective dose for muscle size and strength gains with a minimum of undesirable side effects. Of course this would only work well with steroids that have a high receptor affinity. With steroids of low receptor affinity, such as Anadrol and D-bol, it's a matter of trial and error in finding an optimal dose. As liver toxic as these orals are, too much error can cause problems.
On both sides of either cutting or bulking cycles many bodybuilders include Deca and Primobolan depo. Deca is highly anabolic and works in the presence of everything and Primo is reported to kick everything up a notch. The rest of the array could include Trenbolone, Dianabol, Equipoise, Halotestin, Andriol, Laurabolin, Nilevar, Winstrol, etc, in addition to the test, depending upon weather they might be bulking or cutting. All together some bodybuilders could be stacking up to a dozen different androgens and steroids over the course of an entire bulking/cutting regime. Then there are the other drugs...
All top pro bodybuilders also use growth hormone, IGF-1 and insulin. These days GH is not a solo item; the advent of IGF-1 (insulin like growth factor) as well as the conjunctive use of exogenous insulin have culminated in an extremely powerful (and dangerous) growth-stimulating constituent to a bodybuilder's arsenal of anabolic drugs.
Not long ago, GH was used by itself with only haphazard results; naturally inciting the "more is better" principal. The limiting factor to its use then became the nasty side effects such as, terribly debilitating carpal tunnel syndrome, severe water retention, and a bank book zero. Also limiting the anabolic effect of GH is the body's own regulation of IGF-1. Soon after GH is injected it travels to the liver where it is broken down and converted to IGF-1.
Combining GH, IGF-1 and insulin creates a powerful anabolic formula that is far greater than the sum total of its parts. The process is intricate, but in a nutshell - when GH is used with certain androgens, the net effect is an increase in the production of IGF-1. IGF-1 has an extremely powerful effect on anabolic activity. Administering exogenous IGF-1, (more is more), would then stand to further increase anabolism, right? Not exactly. The problem is, in order to get IGF-1 to do its thing it requires a binding protein (IGFBP-3) to control its activity and potency, as well as to keep the IGF-1 circulating in the blood stream. If you can't get the IGFBP-3 to work, then the IGF-1 is useless. Insulin decreases the activity of the proteolytic enzymes that destroy IGFBP-3 and keeps the IGF-1 circulating throughout the body. Without IGFBP-3, IGF-1 disappears from circulation in about five minutes. Insulin can maintain IGFBP-3 for 12 hours or more.
Combining GH, IGF-1, and short and medium duration insulin creates a biological environment that's sole purpose is to potentate IGF-1 activity. Administering exogenous IGF-1 also causes hypoglycemia, especially if calories are restricted. On the other hand, GH causes insulin resistance resulting in hyperglycemia. Combining the two counteracts the deleterious effect of the other on blood sugar levels. Combining the two also produces a far better anabolic effect than either used alone.
Suffice it to say it's far more complicated and very dangerous if done wrong. But many bodybuilders accept it as just part of the job. If you goof up on the insulin you could end up in a coma, or worse. Using GH, IGF-1 and insulin individually for their anabolic effect is a waste of time and money. Done correctly this one aspect alone of professional bodybuilding can set one back, depending on their dealer, a few thousand dollars a month or more!
Some gurus use short-acting insulin to carb their guys up before a show while an IV bag full of glucose drips into a vein. These guys are constantly running the risk of severe hypoglycemia, slipping into a coma, and dying within hours. But, it hasn't happened yet.
Some bodybuilders also try to stimulate their own natural secretion of endogenous GH while they sleep. Drugs such as GHB, Catapres, and others have shown to be moderately effective. I think they're more effective in making you sleepy, and, as in the case of GHB, has a recreational allure that can chew you up and spit you out if you're not careful. GH is GH though and every little bit is revered. (More is more).
Significantly elevating testosterone levels through exogenous sources has two undesirable effects. First, the body senses all the extra testosterone and decides it doesn't need to make any more of its own. The old "use it or lose it" adage effects the testicles where testosterone is produced. Shriveled nuts is always a given. This condition is temporary; soon after steroid use stops the most glorious hypertrophy usually results. Most bodybuilders kick start the process with hormones to restore testicular function such as HCG and Clomid. HCG is also anti-catabolic.
Elevated testosterone levels also cause the body to try and counterbalance the hormones by producing extra estrogen. Certain steroids also aromatize and convert to estrogen. Estrogen is quite undesirable due to its nasty side effects in men; water retention, irritability and gynecomastia (bitch tits), to name a few. Bodybuilders routinely use estrogen antagonists to blunt estrogen, such as Nolvadex and Proviron, and block estrogen with Arimidex, to prevent these problems. Unfortunately, once a guy grows breasts, surgery is, in most cases, the only viable cure. Most top pros have a little semi circular scar under each nipple.
Some guys who will admit it swear they don't use that much when compared to the extreme. Unfortunately, no one believes them. They all need to compete with each other, and if got out that one particularly well improved Olympia contender was using a bunch of genetically engineered artificial blood from Russia, the rest of them would have it before very long. There is little a bodybuilder won't do to win. Then of course, considering that the human body produces many of the hormones
bodybuilders use, a particular bodybuilder could be using a few thousand milligrams of testosterone and testosterone blends each week, several IUs of GH, IGF-1 and insulin each day, and technically still tell the world, without impunity, that he is 100 percent natural. I always thought that was funny.
Managing all these drugs with other drugs, the drugs used to maintain muscle mass while dieting, and the drugs used to diet are a whole other story I'll be happy to tell another time if you really want me to. Especially in the two weeks leading up to a contest the medicine some gurus practice borders on voodoo. Thankfully, as the years went on and the process was refined, we determined that some of the more radical approaches were really not necessary and things have calmed down a bit. But, if you've seen some of the shit I have its no wonder its been kept a secret.
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Well...there's the voice of reason....convicted murderer Craig Titus
The drugs add whatever they add....not sure any % can be attributed. They dont make a pitbull out of a chihuahua...as evidenced by our own Mindspin, who despite taking boatloads of drugs, couldn't get out of the local level.
What % do you attribute Lawrence Taylor's success to cocaine?
i agree with bob.
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i agree with bob.
;D ;D
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;D ;D
Im serious...
Isn't "Method101" the 17year old who workouts in his "home gym"? ::) ::) ::)
what the hell would he know about bbing, and competitive to be specific. jeesus.....these kids believe whatever they read on the "boards".
sure there are USERS AND ABUSERS, LIKE IN EVERY "SPORT"
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Im serious...
Isn't "Method101" the 17year old who workouts in his "home gym"? ::) ::) ::)
what the hell would he know about bbing, and competitive to be specific. jeesus.....these kids believe whatever they read on the "boards".
sure there are USERS AND ABUSERS, LIKE IN EVERY "SPORT"
method101 is afraid of women.
In BB, the abusers are the majority though.
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Im serious...
Isn't "Method101" the 17year old who workouts in his "home gym"? ::) ::) ::)
what the hell would he know about bbing, and competitive to be specific. jeesus.....these kids believe whatever they read on the "boards".
sure there are USERS AND ABUSERS, LIKE IN EVERY "SPORT"
Doesn't matter who posted the link. It's Craig Titus' view that is being disputed, not Methods.
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Doesn't matter who posted the link. It's Craig Titus' view that is being disputed, not Methods.
LOL. Yea Titus, who is going to spend the rest of his life in a jail "suddenly" becomes "the voice of reason". Reminds of Nassers case with his book, both failed men trying to "hurt" what made them what they are/were once, bodybuilding. clowns
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yes Craig is a person of great honour and integrity, i like to hear more revealing stuff about bodybuilding from him.
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Dante Doggcrapp says Titus was doing 5 grams of just test alone when he won his card.
Of course, Titus later said he couldn't keep that up since it would have fucked up his kidneys etc before long.
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yes Craig is a person of great honour and integrity, i like to hear more revealing stuff about bodybuilding from him.
I heard he could literaly touch his balls to the floor when doing squats.
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Here is what I think:
at local level, bodybuilders use drugs to get the edge.
then, they see everyone use drugs so they don't get an edge at all !
so they take more drugs to compete at the state level, and they add HGH and Slin if they didn't already do it.
at state level, they realise everybody are still just as fucking good as them, so to get the edge they must use even more drugs, all the fucking time with no time off so they can be good at the national level
then at the national level, everybody use a shit ton of drugs. Everybody are kind of... the same "size".
so at this point you need luck. you need good proportions and structure, and you also need crazy conditionning so you use some guru that are very good with diuretics and carb loading.
THEN, when you get to the pros
Everyone is big
Everyone is ripped
Everyone had "good enough lines", since they got there in the first place
so what do you do ?
that's right, you take even more drugs, and you also start shooting all your lagging bodypart with synthol so you can look as perfect and big as possible.
at this point, everyone use pretty much the same thing IMO
I don't think Ronnie Coleman uses more than Dexter Jackson for example.
it's just a matter of how far their body can take it
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now he cant defend himself anymore people spew all kinds of allegations towards Craig.
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now he cant defend himself anymore people spew all kinds of allegations towards Craig.
yes he can. don't they have internet in jails? ;D
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Here's a good article from John Romano titled "What Do the Pros Take"
http://www.rxmuscle.com/articles/romanos-rage/523-what-do-the-pros-take.html
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Chick has used at least 10 times the amount of drugs that Mindspin has.
Therefore Chick is at least 10 times the bigger loser.
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Here's a good article from John Romano titled "What Do the Pros Take"
http://www.rxmuscle.com/articles/romanos-rage/523-what-do-the-pros-take.html
well, at least he's getting somewhere. Flex magazine won't tell you that stuff
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Im serious...
Isn't "Method101" the 17year old who workouts in his "home gym"? ::) ::) ::)
"home gym" lol
I have a powerrack, bench that goes from decline to 90*. oympic barbell, olympic dumbell handles, and about 450lbs worth of Iron plates. Alot better than what you will find in alot of commercial gyms lol. And im not 17.
Friking hell meso you are the biggest dellusionite on the whole forum if you think not all ifbb pros are abusers. Read Romanos article ffs, this stuff is sickening.
http://www.rxmuscle.com/articles/romanos-rage/523-what-do-the-pros-take.html
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Im serious...
Isn't "Method101" the 17year old who workouts in his "home gym"? ::) ::) ::)
what the hell would he know about bbing, and competitive to be specific. jeesus.....these kids believe whatever they read on the "boards".
sure there are USERS AND ABUSERS, LIKE IN EVERY "SPORT"
Method101 is most likely a gimmick.
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"home gym" lol
I have a powerrack, bench that goes from decline to 90*. oympic barbell, olympic dumbell handles, and about 450lbs worth of Iron plates. Alot better than what you will find in alot of commercial gyms lol. And im not 17.
Friking hell meso you are the biggest dellusionite on the whole forum if you think not all ifbb pros are abusers. Read Romanos article ffs, this stuff is sickening.
http://www.rxmuscle.com/articles/romanos-rage/523-what-do-the-pros-take.html
Ok so youre 18,correct me if im wrong?
Romano has told lies before believe it or not
Method101 the worls id different to the tv programmes that have thought you about life outsid eyour house
There are no such thing as tellytubbies
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Chick has used at least 10 times the amount of drugs that Mindspin has.
Therefore Chick is at least 10 times the bigger loser.
LMAO. That's funny shiat right there.
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There are no such thing as tellytubbies
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:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Pros use drugs,so do wrestlers,mma,baseball,american football,porn stars
No big deal,everything has side effects
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True or false :
Pros are better than amatuers because they take more drugs
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True or false :
Pros are better than amatuers because they take more drugs
true and false
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it's an insult when these Pro bodybuilders kept denying the use of Extreme Chemicals. it's a really big insult to those in the know.
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It's crazy to think that there are amatuers who genuinly believe that it's not there horrible genetics that are holding them back, it's there drug stack.
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It's crazy to think that there are amatuers who genuinly believe that it's not there horrible genetics that are holding them back, it's there drug stack.
Agree, but it's just as sad that some pro's think that it's only their work ethic and superior genetics that separate them from amateurs.....all while taking MASSIVE amounts of PED's.
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Agree, but it's just as sad that some pro's think that it's only their work ethic and superior genetics that separate them from amateurs.....all while taking MASSIVE amounts of PED's.
I bet you they will keep on denying their Drug uses even beyond their Graves.
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It's crazy to think that there are amatuers who genuinly believe that it's not there horrible genetics that are holding them back, it's there drug stack.
theres no reason why this guy in particular has to be on lots of drugs. what if this guy has only been taking 25mg of winstrol per day ? you dont know what he is or is not taking..
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Remember when Kai Green turned professional ,he said that he didn't have enough money (to buy more drugs)to take it to the next level and he almost quit bodybuilding , look at him now ,top Mr Olympia contender.
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Remember when Kai Green turned professional ,he said that he didn't have enough money (to buy more drugs)to take it to the next level and he almost quit bodybuilding , look at him now ,top Mr Olympia contender.
EXACT-FUCKING-LY
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Im serious...
Isn't "Method101" the 17year old who workouts in his "home gym"? ::) ::) ::)
what the hell would he know about bbing, and competitive to be specific. jeesus.....these kids believe whatever they read on the "boards".
sure there are USERS AND ABUSERS, LIKE IN EVERY "SPORT"
method101 is a confused child, and like most children; a victim of the herd mentality..............h e is not yet intelligent enough to form his own responsible views, so he panders to what he thinks those around him consider cool..............these things are often in conflict with one another, in turn making method101 look like sad little hypocrite......and i do mean little
for example, almost daily he will post some form of an anti-steroid rant, letting us know how stupid he thinks steroid use is, and how anyone who considers using these drugs is a narcissistic asshole................b ut then he will spent the rest of his day copy-and-pasting information from steroid related websites, making youtube video montages praising his favorite professional bodybuilders, and making posts critiquing which muscled-up, oiled-up, thong-wearing, steroid abuser looked better on X occasion.
i suppose we cannot look down on this other method with too musch disdain, for we must once again remind ourselves that he is only 18....................al l though, it was only a few years ago that i, myself was 18..............and i dont remember being anywhere near that much of a bitter, know-it-all, butt-sore, little sheep.............. :) :)
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Bob, you seem to dismiss Craig's claims rather bruskly. I wonder if you would do so to Craig's face?
I would...and I did...at the USA's a few years back with 20 people standing there...he opted out of taking it beyong a discussion
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I would...and I did...at the USA's a few years back with 20 people standing there...he opted out of taking it beyong a discussion
That's because Craig is (was) a jap-shotting little pussy.
When confronted with a formidable opponent who wasn't scared in the slightest by his "tough-guy" act, he tucks tail
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method101 is a confused child, and like most children; a victim of the herd mentality..............h e is not yet intelligent enough to form his own responsible views, so he panders to what he thinks those around him consider cool..............these things are often in conflict with one another, in turn making method101 look like sad little hypocrite......and i do mean little
for example, almost daily he will post some form of an anti-steroid rant, letting us know how stupid he thinks steroid use is, and how anyone who considers using these drugs is a narcissistic asshole................b ut then he will spent the rest of his day copy-and-pasting information from steroid related websites, making youtube video montages praising his favorite professional bodybuilders, and making posts critiquing which muscled-up, oiled-up, thong-wearing, steroid abuser looked better on X occasion.
i suppose we cannot look down on this other method with too musch disdain, for we must once again remind ourselves that he is only 18....................al l though, it was only a few years ago that i, myself was 18..............and i dont remember being anywhere near that much of a bitter, know-it-all, butt-sore, little sheep.............. :) :)
Why so serious MethodGNA, we are not that much different, you even created your getbig account with an almost identical name to mine. Learn not to take everything so seriously, the way i am on this forum is not a good representation of my real life personality and what i think about on a regular basis, i have alot of other things in my life besides this forum/weightlifting believe it or not.
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Here is what I think:
at local level, bodybuilders use drugs to get the edge.
then, they see everyone use drugs so they don't get an edge at all !
so they take more drugs to compete at the state level, and they add HGH and Slin if they didn't already do it.
at state level, they realise everybody are still just as fucking good as them, so to get the edge they must use even more drugs, all the fucking time with no time off so they can be good at the national level
then at the national level, everybody use a shit ton of drugs. Everybody are kind of... the same "size".
so at this point you need luck. you need good proportions and structure, and you also need crazy conditionning so you use some guru that are very good with diuretics and carb loading.
THEN, when you get to the pros
Everyone is big
Everyone is ripped
Everyone had "good enough lines", since they got there in the first place
so what do you do ?
that's right, you take even more drugs, and you also start shooting all your lagging bodypart with synthol so you can look as perfect and big as possible.
at this point, everyone use pretty much the same thing IMO
I don't think Ronnie Coleman uses more than Dexter Jackson for example.
it's just a matter of how far their body can take it
This I think was spot on. But I believe there are pros who haven't used synthol at all, but esciline and all the other shit, you bet.
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At the state level... 1000mg-1500mg a week is norm.
I know middleweights who aren't much heavier than 165lbs who use over a gram a week not to mention the anti-estrogens, insulin and growth just to NOT place and qualify at the local level.
Ridiculous. But also sad at the same time...
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Here is what I think:
at local level, bodybuilders use drugs to get the edge.
then, they see everyone use drugs so they don't get an edge at all !
so they take more drugs to compete at the state level, and they add HGH and Slin if they didn't already do it.
at state level, they realise everybody are still just as fucking good as them, so to get the edge they must use even more drugs, all the fucking time with no time off so they can be good at the national level
then at the national level, everybody use a shit ton of drugs. Everybody are kind of... the same "size".
so at this point you need luck. you need good proportions and structure, and you also need crazy conditionning so you use some guru that are very good with diuretics and carb loading.
THEN, when you get to the pros
Everyone is big
Everyone is ripped
Everyone had "good enough lines", since they got there in the first place
so what do you do ?
that's right, you take even more drugs, and you also start shooting all your lagging bodypart with synthol so you can look as perfect and big as possible.
at this point, everyone use pretty much the same thing IMO
I don't think Ronnie Coleman uses more than Dexter Jackson for example.
it's just a matter of how far their body can take it
qft
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it's funny how getbiggers pick and choose what they want to believe
they believe titus when he claims so and so pro used 3 grams of test a week, but they don't believe him when he claims to be innocent of murder ::)
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What is the "regular" amount of test per week?
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What is the "regular" amount of test per week?
For who?
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For who?
Hmmm, yeah...I could instead ask what is usually the minimum amount people start using?
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What is the "regular" amount of test per week?
us naturals produce a whopping 49mg per week on average.
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us naturals produce a whopping 49mg per week on average.
That little? Damn.
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Hmmm, yeah...I could instead ask what is usually the minimum amount people start using?
Hmmm, I think if somebody respond well and already have a bit higher natural testosteron level then 150-200 mg of test a week is more than enough for a start...
I somebody wants to be even bigger and better and wants to compete at bodybuilding shows then 500-750 mg weekly is enough IMO...
But this is just testosterone...you'll need other stuffs as well...and then these doses should be enough....
At pro level I think 1000 mg weekly is more than enough but you should use more other things...
1500 mg or higher a week is could be reasonable...if somebody competes at Olympia level or wants to qualify to the Olympia...
Just my two cents.
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I would...and I did...at the USA's a few years back with 20 people standing there...he opted out of taking it beyong a discussion
Good for you. Care to tell us exactly what the exchange was? I understand if you don't.
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Hmmm, I think if somebody respond well and already have a bit higher natural testosteron level then 150-200 mg of test a week is more than enough for a start...
I somebody wants to be even bigger and better and wants to compete at bodybuilding shows then 500-750 mg weekly is enough IMO...
But this is just testosterone...you'll need other stuffs as well...and then these doses should be enough....
At pro level I think 1000 mg weekly is more than enough but you should use more other things...
1500 mg or higher a week is could be reasonable...if somebody competes at Olympia level or wants to qualify to the Olympia...
Just my two cents.
Thanks. ;)
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Good for you. Care to tell us exactly what the exchange was? I understand if you don't.
would you get into an arguement with your boss? lol
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Good for you. Care to tell us exactly what the exchange was? I understand if you don't.
It was real simple....exchanges were made either right here on this site, or Musclemayhem (cant remember)....Craig basically said, he'd see me at the USA in Vegas...I said no problem. I walked in to the lobby area, craig was standing about 40 ft. to the left in front of a booth....I walked right up to him and said Here I am Craig, just as I promised...what you want to do? He started stammering around and suggested we go off to the side to talk. He apologized for his comments...end of story
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Guess if your hero Craig said it, it must be true
one felon bitching about another
pretty funny
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one felon bitching about another
pretty funny
chick has been in prison ???
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hahahahahahahaha!!! "Muscle Missions".....a "Christian Ministry"
As if our lord Jesus Christ is looking down upon us from the heavens with his infinite compassion and wisdom giving a fuck about professional bodybuilding. ::) ::)
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one felon bitching about another
pretty funny
Who are you talking about?
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It was real simple....exchanges were made either right here on this site, or Musclemayhem (cant remember)....Craig basically said, he'd see me at the USA in Vegas...I said no problem. I walked in to the lobby area, craig was standing about 40 ft. to the left in front of a booth....I walked right up to him and said Here I am Craig, just as I promised...what you want to do? He started stammering around and suggested we go off to the side to talk. He apologized for his comments...end of story
Nice job Chick somebody needed to stand up to that bully.
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Does "Muscle Missions" get young homeless bodybuilder addicts who are forced to steal their protein needs from supermarkets and suck cock for roid money and get them to clean up.... read the bible, find an apartment and decent job and begin to train naturally??
Epic useless ministry.
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Who are you talking about?
You're a criminal Bob. You deal drugs to support your habit. Are you going to deny it?
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You're a criminal Bob. You deal drugs to support your habit. Are you going to deny it?
I deal drugs?
LOL
When have I ever delt drugs?
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I deal drugs?
LOL
When have I ever delt drugs?
oh brother ::) I'm guessing in your delusional world, steroids aren't drugs...
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oh brother ::) I'm guessing in your delusional world, steroids aren't drugs...
lol...he says its ok becasue he has a script
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oh brother ::) I'm guessing in your delusional world, steroids aren't drugs...
I want to know when you believe I've sold drugs. Thats a pretty serious allegation...beter be sure you have your facts right
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I want to know when you believe I've sold drugs. Thats a pretty serious allegation...beter be sure you have your facts right
:o :o
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I want to know when you believe I've sold drugs. Thats a pretty serious allegation...beter be sure you have your facts right
if that's a "pretty serious allegation" then do you believe that some dude selling roids in a gym is a pretty serious crime?
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dealing drugs / g4p or twice is the only way for pro to earn enough money.
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I want to know when you believe I've sold drugs. Thats a pretty serious allegation...beter be sure you have your facts right
I like the veiled threat in chic's words. in reality, he's not suing anyone because that would open up his entire character to examination in a public forum, under oath.
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I like the veiled threat in chic's words. in reality, he's not suing anyone because that would open up his entire character to examination in a public forum, under oath.
PLUS suing cost lot of money, that mean more drug dealing to sue more people, a vicious circle.
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if that's a "pretty serious allegation" then do you believe that some dude selling roids in a gym is a pretty serious crime?
I could give a fuck about some dude in the gym....my concern is with myself, and having false allegations thrown my way
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lol...i was just gonna post that.
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I like the veiled threat in chic's words. in reality, he's not suing anyone because that would open up his entire character to examination in a public forum, under oath.
Which I would have no problem with.
Despite you incessant stalking and wish/ fantasy to have me engaged in homosexual activity....I have nothing of the sort in my past, present, or future...
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I could give a fuck about some dude in the gym....my concern is with myself, and having false allegations thrown my way
I agree
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Which I would have no problem with.
Despite you incessant stalking and wish/ fantasy to have me engaged in homosexual activity....I have nothing of the sort in my past, present, or future...
are you calling me gay Chick? that's a pretty serious allegation.
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I could give a fuck about some dude in the gym....my concern is with myself, and having false allegations thrown my way
well if selling roids in a gym ain't that big of a criminal deal, then you being accused of same ain't that big of an allegation, right?
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well if selling roids in a gym ain't that big of a criminal deal, then you being accused of same ain't that big of an allegation, right?
Do you REALLY need this explained more simply?
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Which I would have no problem with.
Despite you incessant stalking and wish/ fantasy to have me engaged in homosexual activity....I have nothing of the sort in my past, present, or future...
well, maybe not any activity of a homosexer nature, but what about all your drug use? surely you don't want all that layed out in public, do you? and i'm not talking about rec drug use (if any), i'm talking about steroids. and how sympathetic do you think a judge or jury would be to a person that's used anabolic steroids for what, 15-20 years, complaining that someone accused him of selling the very same drugs he has been using for that long? naahhh, you got no defamation case there chicky
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I'm with Chick on this one , unless Mindspin knows something that we don't know, and he can prove it ,he shouldn't say something like that.
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Do you REALLY need this explained more simply?
you can't have it both ways. either selling roids is really bad and thus Mindspin made a serious allegation or selling roids ain't that big a deal and Mindspin's allegation is trivial.
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lol who was the better bodybuilder, Bob Chick, or Titus?
:D
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are you calling me gay Chick? that's a pretty serious allegation.
calm down tiger. ::) ::) ::)
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You're a criminal Bob. You deal drugs to support your habit. Are you going to deny it?
LAWSUIT BITCH
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well, maybe not any activity of a homosexer nature, but what about all your drug use? surely you don't want all that layed out in public, do you? and i'm not talking about rec drug use (if any), i'm talking about steroids. and how sympathetic do you think a judge or jury would be to a person that's used anabolic steroids for what, 15-20 years, complaining that someone accused him of selling the very same drugs he has been using for that long? naahhh, you got no defamation case there chicky
I cant even begin to tell you how far off base you are...you really need to do a little homework before making a bigger fool of yourself.
For the rest that can think....one is totally irrelevant to the other.
Being accused of selling drugs is an allegation all on it's own...
I suppose if YOU were accused of selling crack, the judge should look at the fact that you may have smoked pot during HS/ college...?
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lol who was the better bodybuilder, Bob Chick, or Titus?
:D
Arrest Chick and free Titus. :P :P :P
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I cant even begin to tell you how far off base you are...you really need to do a little homework before making a bigger fool of yourself.
For the rest that can think....one is totally irrelevant to the other.
Being accused of selling drugs is an allegation all on it's own...
I suppose if YOU were accused of selling crack, the judge should look at the fact that you may have smoked pot during HS/ college...?
yup...its called the sting of the statement my friend. how long have you practiced law? oh, that's right, you just pose in athong in front of an audience.
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Arrest Chick and free Titus. :P :P :P
lmao, they could be in the same cell.
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It was real simple....exchanges were made either right here on this site, or Musclemayhem (cant remember)....Craig basically said, he'd see me at the USA in Vegas...I said no problem. I walked in to the lobby area, craig was standing about 40 ft. to the left in front of a booth....I walked right up to him and said Here I am Craig, just as I promised...what you want to do? He started stammering around and suggested we go off to the side to talk. He apologized for his comments...end of story
Bob, did you make him walk around with his finger thru your belt loop for the rest of the USA's? ;D
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Do you REALLY need this explained more simply?
Bottom Line - Pro Bodybuilding is a side show, a side show needs Freaks to survive.
Drugs = Freaks
Simple
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yup...its called the sting of the statement my friend. how long have you practiced law? oh, that's right, you just pose in athong in front of an audience.
I never practiced law...I wasn't a lawyer.
But I know a great deal about the law....and unsubstanciated allegations
Stll waiting for Mindspin to back up his big mouth.....anytime now, moneybags
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I never practiced law...I wasn't a lawyer.
But I know a great deal about the law....and unsubstanciated allegations
Stll waiting for Mindspin to back up his big mouth.....anytime now, moneybags
so, lets say Mindspin doesn't come back with anything. what will you do?
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so, lets say Mindspin doesn't come back with anything. what will you do?
I'm a fair man...I'm giving him the chance to back up his claim of me being a drug dealer.
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Seems we need to lighten up here.
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You're a criminal Bob. You deal drugs to support your habit. Are you going to deny it?
I'm sure there are plenty of your cagefighter buddies and heroes who sell Vicadins and other painkillers to their friends.
I'm sure there are plenty of 138lb cagefighter wannabe prospects selling coke and pot out of their moms basement as well.
Kinda low of you to call Bob a drug dealer without proof.
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I'm sure there are plenty of your cagefighter buddies and heroes who sell Vicadins and other painkillers to their friends.
I'm sure there are plenty of 138lb cagefighter wannabe prospects selling coke and pot out of their moms basement as well.
Kinda low of you to call Bob a drug dealer without proof.
mindspin has proven he's a douchebag a million times over. chick should sue him
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mindspin has proven he's a douchebag a million times over. chick should sue him
That be some really solid ownage right there.
I predict the "Chick sues Mindspin" thread to be at least 25 pages in an hour when the verdict is released and court photos of both of them in their suits are presented.
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trust me, chic aint suing anyone
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Stop posting that garbage in this thread.
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I know at least 3 guys who got illegal substances from Bob. Whether cash was involved in the transaction I cannot say for sure (some may have made other forms of payment) but at least 3 admitted steroid users that all bounced at the same nightclub here when Bob was still living in Rochester all said Chick was their source. I'm not a "lawyer" but I have been on "Jury Duty" and three testimonials like that are pretty convincing.
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Stop posting that garbage in this thread.
stop being an asshole this is the internet
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I know at least 3 guys who got illegal substances from Bob. Whether cash was involved in the transaction I cannot say for sure (some may have made other forms of payment) but at least 3 admitted steroid users that all bounced at the same nightclub here when Bob was still living in Rochester all said Chick was their source. I'm not a "lawyer" but I have been on "Jury Duty" and three testimonials like that are pretty convincing.
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I know at least 3 guys who got illegal substances from Bob. Whether cash was involved in the transaction I cannot say for sure (some may have made other forms of payment) but at least 3 admitted steroid users that all bounced at the same nightclub here when Bob was still living in Rochester all said Chick was their source. I'm not a "lawyer" but I have been on "Jury Duty" and three testimonials like that are pretty convincing.
LOL....of course you do.
Just as credible as when you were "escorted out" of the show last year when no one on this earth would have a fuckin clue as to who you are....
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Chick-seriously, you do not want to open this can of worms.
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Well...there's the voice of reason....convicted murderer Craig Titus
The drugs add whatever they add....not sure any % can be attributed. They dont make a pitbull out of a chihuahua...as evidenced by our own Mindspin, who despite taking boatloads of drugs, couldn't get out of the local level.
What % do you attribute Lawrence Taylor's success to cocaine?
Actually as much as I think Titus is a scumbag and deserves to die. His "voice of reason" far outweighs your voice of "kissing Weider, IFBB and Manion Ass". He nothing to gain or lose. You have everything to lose. And honestly you are not that ignorant. What a stupid statement "They don't make pitbulls out of a chihuahua". YES THEY DO. Take a look at your ex boyfriend Prince. He looks worse than a chihuahua. Look at 95% of BB's before they go on the juice. Dude really erase this post, it makes you look really stupid. Your comparisons are getting really bad too. Is Manion out to dinner right now so you can't call him for answers. And you can tell Mindspin took some shit but far from what you and your friends take. That is why he didn't turn pro. He didn't want to take the boatloads of shit you had to take to win. Same with the others. Why do you defend something you can't defend. Are you really this brainwashed.
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OK chick? Point blank... have you ever sold any anabolic/androgenic steroids or other items requiring a perscription, to anyone, including friends, other pros, etc?
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I could give a fuck about some dude in the gym....my concern is with myself, and having false allegations thrown my way
So are you saying you have never seen anyone in the gym or anywhere else selling steroids. Are you saying in the 35 years you tried to be a pro you never witnessed a steroid deal going down. Cause if you did you are an accessory. You witness a felony and did not report it. And just think how many times you actually did witness it. How many friends did you hook up with your dealer. Did you get any cut of the profits? You need to call Manion and ask him what you should do next.
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I never practiced law...I wasn't a lawyer.
But I know a great deal about the law....and unsubstanciated allegations
Stll waiting for Mindspin to back up his big mouth.....anytime now, moneybags
Watching Judge Judy and Night Court doesn't count as "knowing a great deal about the law". Hope this helps
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Oh Bob. Are you really threatening to take me to court? That's the ultimate GetBig meltdown. Right up there with "say it to my face" LOL!
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I find it hard to believe that in all Chicks years of using gear he is claiming he has never once hooked up a friend with steroids. Anyone who has dabbled in drugs knows how it goes, "Oh, you can get such and such for that price? Can you grab me some?" He is either a lying to us or not a very good friend.
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I dont think being a murderer and denying it means that you are likely to lie about drug usage.
Lying about drug usage is pointless - if anything you would underplay it
Lying about being a murderer is pretty common sense
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Oh Bob. Are you really threatening to take me to court? That's the ultimate GetBig meltdown. Right up there with "say it to my face" LOL!
I never mentioned court....I asked you to qualify your statement about me being a drug dealer
Still waiting
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I never mentioned court....I asked you to qualify your statement about me being a drug dealer
Still waiting
Have you ever picked up steroids for a friend?
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I don't know if I respect you anymore Chick. You used to be somebody I could trust. :'(
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Have you ever picked up steroids for a friend?
of course, everybody who use did it at least once.
When you are big, all your friends will ask you to get them shits
he won't admit it, that's not to his advantage
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what the fuck is wrong with some of you people, like a whining bunch of fucking pussy-hurt women.............."oh my god, your a criminal, you have used steroids"........give me a fucking break..................h alf you guys are the same kind of pussies who smoke pot 3 or 4 nights a week, and every couple weeks "splurge" with you paycheck from whatever bouncing job you are condemed to and go in on an 8-ball with your friends................a ll thats fine, but your too cowardly to use steroids.
so you bitch at people like bob, and who ever else will listen: "aren't steroids illegal, then technically your a criminal"....................its amazing some of you have been posting her for so long, yet know ABSOLUTELY nothing about real bodybuilding culture................. ..95%, or more, of every guy who uses steroids, has sold a bottle of test or a few d-bol to his friends here and there, its part of the culture, you help your friends out, maybe make a few bucks to put a dent in your next growth order.................so of course bob has sold a few bottles or amps here and there................... .big fucking deal.............so have i, and every juicer i know...........and of course he wont talk about it, he has a respected position in the ifbb, i wouldnt either...........what ?just so he can vindicate himself with a bunch of faceless message board haters.
you should be happy bob is still here at all putting up with some of your homo ass shit,,,,,,,,,,notice that every other named pro flew the coup a long time ago, but he still gets on here and mixes it up with everyone..............bu t half of you cant even appreciate that for a moment, because you are so busy trying to OUT him as a steroid user, or a guy who sold a couple of bottles of test to some douchebags you know back in 2002.
most of you are so naieve................pe ople in the know spend hours and hours laughing at you, and how gullible you are.
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of course, everybody who use did it at least once.
When you are big, all your friends will ask you to get them shits
he won't admit it, that's not to his advantage
So it is reasonable for Mindspin to assume Chick has at one point in his life purchased gear with the intention of selling it to another person? Chick is claiming otherwise.
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LOL at all these dumbasses questioning a pro bodybuilder if he has ever hooked up a friend with gear.....
What the fuck do you think??
Damn people, quit acting like little bitches and get over it already.
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what the fuck is wrong with some of you people, like a whining bunch of fucking pussy-hurt women.............."oh my god, your a criminal, you have used steroids"........give me a fucking break..................h alf you guys are the same kind of pussies who smoke pot 3 or 4 nights a week, and every couple weeks "splurge" with you paycheck from whatever bouncing job you are condemed to and go in on an 8-ball with your friends................a ll thats fine, but your too cowardly to use steroids.
so you bitch at people like bob, and who ever else will listen: "aren't steroids illegal, then technically your a criminal"....................its amazing some of you have been posting her for so long, yet know ABSOLUTELY nothing about real bodybuilding culture................. ..95%, or more, of every guy who uses steroids, has sold a bottle of test or a few d-bol to his friends here and there, its part of the culture, you help your friends out, maybe make a few bucks to put a dent in your next growth order.................so of course bob has sold a few bottles or amps here and there................... .big fucking deal.............so have i, and every juicer i know...........and of course he wont talk about it, he has a respected position in the ifbb, i wouldnt either...........what ?just so he can vindicate himself with a bunch of faceless message board haters.
you should be happy bob is still here at all putting up with some of your homo ass shit,,,,,,,,,,notice that every other named pro flew the coup a long time ago, but he still gets on here and mixes it up with everyone..............bu t half of you cant even appreciate that for a moment, because you are so busy trying to OUT him as a steroid user, or a guy who sold a couple of bottles of test to some douchebags you know back in 2002.
most of you are so naieve................pe ople in the know spend hours and hours laughing at you, and how gullible you are.
Biggest Meltdown in history, sorry we insulted your "iron warriors" lmao.
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So it is reasonable for Mindspin to assume Chick has at one point in his life purchased gear with the intention of selling it to another person? Chick is claiming otherwise.
yes it is absolutely reasonable.
but I can also see why Chick is on the defensive, especially with the creepy people at getbig who could use that against him.
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LOL at all these dumbasses questioning a pro bodybuilder if he has ever hooked up a friend with gear.....
What the fuck do you think??
Damn people, quit acting like little bitches and get over it already.
Chick is acting like the bitch here. Mindspin pointed out what should really be common knowledge and Bob is going out of his way to make him prove it. Mindspin never compared him to Nino Brown, he merely said he was a drug dealer. If you hook someone up with gear, you are indeed a drug dealer.
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Chick is acting like the bitch here. Mindspin pointed out what should really be common knowledge and Bob is going out of his way make him prove it. Mindspin never compared him to Nino Brown, he merely said he was a drug dealer. If you hook someone up with gear, you are indeed a drug dealer.
And I requested he qualify it with facts...so far, he has declined
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LOL....of course you do.
Just as credible as when you were "escorted out" of the show last year when no one on this earth would have a fuckin clue as to who you are....
Was Jay Cutler having auditions for bloated pasty has-been sidekick?
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what the fuck is wrong with some of you people, like a whining bunch of fucking pussy-hurt women.............."oh my god, your a criminal, you have used steroids"........give me a fucking break..................h alf you guys are the same kind of pussies who smoke pot 3 or 4 nights a week, and every couple weeks "splurge" with you paycheck from whatever bouncing job you are condemed to and go in on an 8-ball with your friends................a ll thats fine, but your too cowardly to use steroids.
so you bitch at people like bob, and who ever else will listen: "aren't steroids illegal, then technically your a criminal"....................its amazing some of you have been posting her for so long, yet know ABSOLUTELY nothing about real bodybuilding culture................. ..95%, or more, of every guy who uses steroids, has sold a bottle of test or a few d-bol to his friends here and there, its part of the culture, you help your friends out, maybe make a few bucks to put a dent in your next growth order.................so of course bob has sold a few bottles or amps here and there................... .big fucking deal.............so have i, and every juicer i know...........and of course he wont talk about it, he has a respected position in the ifbb, i wouldnt either...........what ?just so he can vindicate himself with a bunch of faceless message board haters.
you should be happy bob is still here at all putting up with some of your homo ass shit,,,,,,,,,,notice that every other named pro flew the coup a long time ago, but he still gets on here and mixes it up with everyone..............bu t half of you cant even appreciate that for a moment, because you are so busy trying to OUT him as a steroid user, or a guy who sold a couple of bottles of test to some douchebags you know back in 2002.
most of you are so naieve................pe ople in the know spend hours and hours laughing at you, and how gullible you are.
Classic Meltdown rant. We should be happy Bob is here? Why? Is he some sort of messiah ::)
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And I requested he qualify it with facts...so far, he has declined
In this case I am not sure facts are warranted. Are you saying you have never once hooked anyone up with gear?
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LOL....of course you do.
Just as credible as when you were "escorted out" of the show last year when no one on this earth would have a fuckin clue as to who you are....
If no one knew who is was why was he escorted out. And if he was escorted out how do you knwo it was him since no one has a clue who he is . I don't understand
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If no one knew who is was why was he escorted out. And if he was escorted out how do you knwo it was him since no one has a clue who he is . I don't understand
There is just not enough room for 590 pound boulders at these shows.
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And I requested he qualify it with facts...so far, he has declined
Isn't that like asking a known hooker if she fucks. Everyone knows she does but does she really have to prove it
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If no one knew who is was why was he escorted out. And if he was escorted out how do you knwo it was him since no one has a clue who he is . I don't understand
He wasn't escorted out....he made it up because he didnt have the balls to show his face and introduce himself....thats the whole point
It's really not that tough to figure out
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Lot of hate for Chick on this thread. I don't get it.
you really expect him to admit to hooking up some friends with a little gear?
I am 100% certain he has, given he's a pretty shrewd guy who knows how to make a buck, but admitting it accomplishes nothing and can only hurt him.
It's the same as asking a pro to post his cycle....ain't gonna happen....stop asking
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Chick is acting like the bitch here. Mindspin pointed out what should really be common knowledge and Bob is going out of his way to make him prove it. Mindspin never compared him to Nino Brown, he merely said he was a drug dealer. If you hook someone up with gear, you are indeed a drug dealer.
Fair enough but do you really think he is going to admit it on an internet forum.
Do you really believe if you ask Chick another 5 or 10 times....which you probably will...that he is going to admit it to you?
I don't understand trying to interrogate someone on here when they are NEVER going to tell you what you want to know.
No flame, Danielson...I think your funny as hell but seriously.
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Fair enough but do you really think he is going to admit it on an internet forum.
Do you really believe if you ask Chick another 5 or 10 times....which you probably will...that he is going to admit it to you?
I don't understand trying to interrogate someone on here when they are NEVER going to tell you what you want to know.
No flame, Danielson...I think your funny as hell but seriously.
I agree, but why demand proof when we all know there is a 99.99% certainty he has done it?
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Classic Meltdown rant. We should be happy Bob is here? Why? Is he some sort of messiah ::)
yeah, real "meltdown".......you are king douche bag, exactly who i was picturing when i wrote that.
i could care less about bob chick personally.............. but are you under the impression some kind of reward will be line......when persnickety f agg ots like you succeed in driving every last pro bodybuilder away from here? ::) ::)
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yeah, real "meltdown".......you are king douche bag, exactly who i was picturing when i wrote that.
i could care less about bob chick personally.............. but are you under the impression some kind of reward will be line......when persnickety #### like you succeed in driving every last pro bodybuilder away from here? ::) ::)
Persnickety......nice
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So it is reasonable for Mindspin to assume Chick has at one point in his life purchased gear with the intention of selling it to another person? Chick is claiming otherwise.
He wasn't talking about Chick's past,
Mindspin said '' You're a criminal Bob. You deal drugs to support your habit"
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He wasn't talking about Chick's past,
Mindspin said '' You're a criminal Bob. You deal drugs to support your habit"
So if he had said you dealt drugs it would make it better? He may still do it now, who knows, but I am pretty sure he did it at one time. I think they should both just drop this one, nothing good can come out of it.
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. I think they should both just drop this one, nothing good can come out of it.
I agree
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accusations has no merit without some kind of proof. if mindspin can prove at least a bit of info, then we'll have a true debate here. that he said, and he said kind of stuffs are just child's play.
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Up until this point its been funny but when Mindspin stated that Chick deals drugs, that's another thing.
Mindspin, do you have any proof whatsoever to your allegations because if you don't then you owe Chick a huge apology for making a statement like that.
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:'( :'( mindspin was mean to little chick :'( :'(
mindspin that was rude ! say your sorrry!
:P
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Bob.
When you say steroids dont make a pitbull out of a chihuahua...What would you have considered 143lb. Mr. O Dexter Jackson?
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Chick, have you ever used illegal bodybuilding drugs?
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Bob, do you wear a hair piece?
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Bob, do you wear a hair piece?
No...do you?
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No...do you?
Is it true that as the official "athletes" rep, one of the perks is getting to rub oil on their bodies before the "pose down"?
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Is it true that as the official "athletes" rep, one of the perks is getting to rub oil on their bodies before the "pose down"?
Why...if it is, you're going to run for the position?
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Bob, do you prefer the company of men over women?
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Bob, do you prefer the company of men over women?
Why? you looking for company?
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Bob, do you ever find yourself staring longingly at young mens supple glutes while in the golds changing room?
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I would blow away phil heath if i juiced up.
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what a minute.. are we actually giving clout to something craig titus has said ??? craig abused every drug known (meth, coke, and yes, gear) and still couldnt be a second tier pro.. no offense but, lets not make craig the voice of reason..
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Up until this point its been funny but when Mindspin stated that Chick deals drugs, that's another thing.
Mindspin, do you have any proof whatsoever to your allegations because if you don't then you owe Chick a huge apology for making a statement like that.
Luckily you have showed us all you have proof that you don't train, diet or know much. You owe us and everyone who has damaged their eyes looking at you an apology.
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YOU WILL TELL US CHIC!
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Well...there's the voice of reason....convicted murderer Craig Titus
The drugs add whatever they add....not sure any % can be attributed. They dont make a pitbull out of a chihuahua...as evidenced by our own Mindspin, who despite taking boatloads of drugs, couldn't get out of the local level.
What % do you attribute Lawrence Taylor's success to cocaine?
I personally think LT's success was 50% cocaine in his later years...Most of the guys in the Hall of fame of baseball wouldn't have the stats they do if it wasn't for greenies(speed)
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Mindspins just keeping it real but I wouldn't go as far as calling Bobby a criminal. Well atleast not convicted anyways.
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Well...there's the voice of reason....convicted murderer Craig Titus
The drugs add whatever they add....not sure any % can be attributed. They dont make a pitbull out of a chihuahua...as evidenced by our own Mindspin, who despite taking boatloads of drugs, couldn't get out of the local level.
What % do you attribute Lawrence Taylor's success to cocaine?
True, he is a convicted murderer and he redefined the word POS, but are you trying to suggest that what he says isn't fact??
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According to bob he only tried steroids once, and says he didn't like them.
25 years is a long time to try something.
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Bob, do you prefer the company of men over women?
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According to bob he only tried steroids once, and says he didn't like them.
25 years is a long time to try something.
Bob is a lifetime Natty ;)
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When you say steroids dont make a pitbull out of a chihuahua...What would you have considered 143lb. Mr. O Dexter Jackson?
A pitbull pup in the making? I don't think he was referring to size as much as he was referring to genetics, genius.
Chalk one up for another ignorant-ass thread.
Keep em' coming dipshits. So fucking entertaining.
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its a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black.
im pretty sure back in mindspins day when he was competing he hooked up some of his friends at the gym or those who were competing with a few amps of test here and there.
like stavios and others have said its pretty common to see dude at ur gym who all hang out and workout together all on drugs, and im pretty sure at one time or another they've all hooked each other up. Its part of this whole weird bodybuilding community.
im pretty sure all ifbb pros just about could be called drug dealers, because at one time or another they probably had something a buddy couldnt get a hold of and they sold them a few extra vials or pills of whatever substance.
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I deal drugs?
LOL
When have I ever delt drugs?
Notice Bob doesn't actually deny doing it but demands that proof be demonstrated. Someone who hasn't dealt those drugs, like myself, can simply state that he has never done that. There is no need to ask for proof because none whatsoever will ever turn up.
From the insider nature of this sport we can assume that the top guys help each other. Furthermore, no one is going to rat on others because they implicate themselves. Chick is another bullshitter who has used steroids and can't specify what he did. I used Dianabol a few times and posted about it. I have nothing to hide. Makes me wonder what on earth some of these wannabes have to do or have done to achieve bugger all.
Chick is another guy who can't take the same crap he hands out to others on this forum. He knows if you repeat something enough times some of the shit will stick. Just like how some people wonder about his hair.
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GENETICS = MUSCLE SHAPE, MUSCLE SIZE = FOOD, DRUGS
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theres no reason why this guy in particular has to be on lots of drugs. what if this guy has only been taking 25mg of winstrol per day ? you dont know what he is or is not taking..
I think you miss the point mate , that guy could be on 25mg of winstrol or 20 grams a week it doesnt make up for the lack of potential..drugs dont mask poor genetics..
Chick is correct when he says Drugs dont make a pitbull out of a chihuahua , genetic potential must be there to begin with.
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MILOS SAID 750MG OF TEST ALONE.. thats doesnt count the orals, the other injectables etc
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Chic, now that Goodrum is on your side and fully supports (in more ways than one I'm sure), do you think you should throw in the towel now. Having that kind of support can only lead to bad things
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Ridiculous. But also sad at the same time...
Its been reported that Flex wheeler/Kevin Levrone/jay cutler have done over 100 shots a week including/synthol/the medicine/etc...
ARE YOU REALLY TRYING TO PULL OFF THE RIDICULOUS STATEMENT ON A GRAM A WEEK? STFU now bro...You are an inch away from jumping the shark...A gram a week ain't shit and you know it...Don't be a Lee Priest
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I think you miss the point mate , that guy could be on 25mg of winstrol or 20 grams a week it doesnt make up for the lack of potential..drugs dont mask poor genetics..
Chick is correct when he says Drugs dont make a pitbull out of a chihuahua , genetic potential must be there to begin with.
no i didnt miss the point a all.
the guy in that picture has AMAZING POTENTIAL if hes only using 25mg of winny. and the guy has ZERO POTENTIAL if hes using large doseages and various compounds.
the OP was saying that the dude in the picture was an amatuer who thought he could be pro but was stupid cuz he didnt have the genetics for it. but theres absolutey no way to know that unless you know what hes taking.
its like the guys who say phil heath has the best genetics on the planet. they dont know what hes taking... what if phil was usin 5 grams of tren 3 grams of test 40iu gh and 100iu humalog [per day for the last 5 years ??? what would they think of his genetics then?
hats the point.
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its a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black.
im pretty sure back in mindspins day when he was competing he hooked up some of his friends at the gym or those who were competing with a few amps of test here and there.
like stavios and others have said its pretty common to see dude at ur gym who all hang out and workout together all on drugs, and im pretty sure at one time or another they've all hooked each other up. Its part of this whole weird bodybuilding community.
im pretty sure all ifbb pros just about could be called drug dealers, because at one time or another they probably had something a buddy couldnt get a hold of and they sold them a few extra vials or pills of whatever substance.
meltdown.
^^roid dealer apologist
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no i didnt miss the point a all.
the guy in that picture has AMAZING POTENTIAL if hes only using 25mg of winny. and the guy has ZERO POTENTIAL if hes using large doseages and various compounds.
the OP was saying that the dude in the picture was an amatuer who thought he could be pro but was stupid cuz he didnt have the genetics for it. but theres absolutey no way to know that unless you know what hes taking.
its like the guys who say phil heath has the best genetics on the planet. they dont know what hes taking... what if phil was usin 5 grams of tren 3 grams of test 40iu gh and 100iu humalog [per day for the last 5 years ??? what would they think of his genetics then?
hats the point.
The fact of the matter is he(guy in first pic) has no potential to make it in the pro ranks and that is the point , he could be on high doses or low doses , doesnt matter and that is where genetics comes into play. / of story. Phill has potential no matter what his dose and this is what you are missing.Genetics are not dose dependent , you either have it or you dont , loading up on more drugs will not turn you into pro potential..
The only thing someone with below average genetics for bodybuilding has is keep the doses "lowish to moderate" and look "ok" or up the dose and creatae an even bigger mess. ;)
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The fact of the matter is he(guy in first pic) has no potential to make it in the pro ranks and that is the point , he could be on high doses or low doses , doesnt matter and that is where genetics comes into play. / of story. Phill has potential no matter what his dose and this is what you are missing.Genetics are not dose dependent , you either have it or you dont , loading up on more drugs will not turn you into pro potential..
The only thing someone with below average genetics for bodybuilding has is keep the doses "lowish to moderate" and look "ok" or up the dose and creatae an even bigger mess. ;)
why do you say he doesnt have potential? if he added alot of muscle and came in ripped he could definitely be a pro.
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I'm feeling really bad and did not mean to hurt Bob's feelings. If I did, I sincerely apologize. I'm sure that in real life person his a nice guy...
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I'm feeling really bad and did not mean to hurt Bob's feelings. If I did, I sincerely apologize. I'm sure that in real life person his a nice guy...
meltdown
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Classic Meltdown rant. We should be happy Bob is here? Why? Is he some sort of messiah ::)
i think we should, after all he's a PRO BB and he's familiar with the stuff that really goes on behind the scenes and can share that with us, oh wait.................nev ermind
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Bob Chick behaves in a despicable manner at times on this forum. He deserves what he gets and he gets what he deserves. He says awful things about others so bad luck if some shit hits him.
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Here is what I think:
at local level, bodybuilders use drugs to get the edge.
then, they see everyone use drugs so they don't get an edge at all !
so they take more drugs to compete at the state level, and they add HGH and Slin if they didn't already do it.
at state level, they realise everybody are still just as fucking good as them, so to get the edge they must use even more drugs, all the fucking time with no time off so they can be good at the national level
then at the national level, everybody use a shit ton of drugs. Everybody are kind of... the same "size".
so at this point you need luck. you need good proportions and structure, and you also need crazy conditionning so you use some guru that are very good with diuretics and carb loading.
THEN, when you get to the pros
Everyone is big
Everyone is ripped
Everyone had "good enough lines", since they got there in the first place
so what do you do ?
that's right, you take even more drugs, and you also start shooting all your lagging bodypart with synthol so you can look as perfect and big as possible.
at this point, everyone use pretty much the same thing IMO
I don't think Ronnie Coleman uses more than Dexter Jackson for example.
it's just a matter of how far their body can take it
Honest & “right to the point” post. Thanks :)
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3 grams of test a week..
hammm I remembered someone in this website has said the Ronnie Coleman had been using 10 grams of test a week. So, was this true..?
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what a minute.. are we actually giving clout to something craig titus has said ??? craig abused every drug known (meth, coke, and yes, gear) and still couldnt be a second tier pro.. no offense but, lets not make craig the voice of reason..
lol, what does that make chick then?
:D
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why do you say he doesnt have potential? if he added alot of muscle and came in ripped he could definitely be a pro.
Maybe, but not a top tier pro where the creme of the crop is , the fact of the matter is up the dose and take a huge array of other drugs plus add in calories and train you will add muscle but that in it self means sweet fuk all when you dont have the structure or shape to have "the look" that the best in the world have and thats what seperates the elite to the normal "pro"
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I'm feeling really bad and did not mean to hurt Bob's feelings. If I did, I sincerely apologize. I'm sure that in real life person his a nice guy...
Looks like Mindspin was forced by Ron to openly apologize to Chic. Notice that Mindspin didn't retract his remark about Chic being a criminal. But Chic will take this tongue-in-cheek apology as meaning that Mindspin has withdrawn his accusation of Chic being a drug dealer, whereas Mindspin has done no such thing (as far as I know.) So Chic comes out of this feeling that the issue has been put to rest and his innocence and reputation have been restored . . . hahaha. Epic admission of guilt on Chic's part if he accepts this as being Mindspin's official apology and thus is content to drop the matter all together.
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Epic admission of guilt on Chic's part if he accepts this as being Mindspin's official apology and thus is content to drop the matter all together.
As opposed to realising that internet taunts shouldn't be taken seriously, to the point of litigation?
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As opposed to realising that internet taunts shouldn't be taken seriously, to the point of litigation?
generally speaking, sure, i agree with you, but the stakes are more meaningful when you're the athlete's rep and spokesperson for the IFBB on a popular bodybuilding board (which many folks in the industry read) and then you have a criminal allegation made against you be a moderator of the board haha.
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generally speaking, sure, i agree with you, but the stakes are more meaningful when you're the athlete's rep and spokesperson for the IFBB on a popular bodybuilding board (which many folks in the industry read) and then you have a criminal allegation made against you be a moderator of the board haha.
I think he understands the nature of the beast. Hell, even exploits it. Right now he has an "on the warpath" Vince Basile relentlessly pursuing him around the board complaining of being painted as a pedo by Bob so I don't think he's entirely blameless, himself.
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generally speaking, sure, i agree with you, but the stakes are more meaningful when you're the athlete's rep and spokesperson for the IFBB on a popular bodybuilding board (which many folks in the industry read) and then you have a criminal allegation made against you be a moderator of the board haha.
The funny thing is Chic or the IFBB would never ever want to do something that would bring them into a courtroom like file stupid charges against someone for allegations of any sort. Cause some interesting skeletons would be showing up in court.
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The funny thing is Chic or the IFBB would never ever want to do something that would bring them into a courtroom like file stupid charges against someone for allegations of any sort. Cause some interesting skeletons would be showing up in court.
yup
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are you saying that Chic is bluffing all the way, cuz he's guilty as sin, and that Mindspin would destroy him in a courtroom?
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Looks like Mindspin was forced by Ron to openly apologize to Chic. Notice that Mindspin didn't retract his remark about Chic being a criminal. But Chic will take this tongue-in-cheek apology as meaning that Mindspin has withdrawn his accusation of Chic being a drug dealer, whereas Mindspin has done no such thing (as far as I know.) So Chic comes out of this feeling that the issue has been put to rest and his innocence and reputation have been restored . . . hahaha. Epic admission of guilt on Chic's part if he accepts this as being Mindspin's official apology and thus is content to drop the matter all together.
nothng has been dropped, and I'm not looking for an apology from Mindless...I'm looking for him to qualify his accusation of me being a drug dealer.
If you're going to make a statement as such, you need to back it up
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its not in the pros benefit to tell the truth, afterall people still has to think the pro archieved the "after" picture with a revolutionairy supplement.
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Chick,
do you still claim to have legally obtained your prescriptions for steroids over the past 20 years?
If you can lie about your own use, why can't you lie about dealing too?
nothng has been dropped, and I'm not looking for an apology from Mindless...I'm looking for him to qualify his accusation of me being a drug dealer.
If you're going to make a statement as such, you need to back it up
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3 grams of test a week..
hammm I remembered someone in this website has said the Ronnie Coleman had been using 10 grams of test a week. So, was this true..?
Go away kid.
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Chick,
do you still claim to have legally obtained your prescriptions for steroids over the past 20 years?
If you can lie about your own use, why can't you lie about dealing too?
No reason to lie.
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No reason to lie.
Bob, when will guys learn? If they would just go to a doc, they wouldn't have to buy the possum-piss laced saline solution that their gym hookup got shipped in from "overseas." dumbasses.
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Bob, when will guys learn? If they would just go to a doc, they wouldn't have to buy the possum-piss laced saline solution that their gym hookup got shipped in from "overseas." dumbasses.
LOL...all true
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LOL...all true
You are so full of shit chick.... you once admited on this site, that you used Insulin for a Carb up once, and you didnt like the results. Let me guess, a Doctor prescribed that for you too, (you being a diabetic and all).
Hmm...it looks like you BROKE THE LAW. Now can you just admit the obvious to us all.....
M!
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You are so full of shit chick.... you once admited on this site, that you used Insulin for a Carb up once, and you didnt like the results. Let me guess, a Doctor prescribed that for you too, (you being a diabetic and all).
Hmm...it looks like you BROKE THE LAW. Now can you just admit the obvious to us all.....
M!
Yep...sure did
BTW...you can purchase Humalog just about anywhere without a prescription....jackass
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Yep...sure did
BTW...you can purchase Humalog just about anywhere without a prescription....jackass
true
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You are so full of shit chick.... you once admited on this site, that you used Insulin for a Carb up once, and you didnt like the results. Let me guess, a Doctor prescribed that for you too, (you being a diabetic and all).
Hmm...it looks like you BROKE THE LAW. Now can you just admit the obvious to us all.....
M!
Yep...sure did
BTW...you can purchase Humalog just about anywhere without a prescription....jackass
lol....OWNED!!!
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Yep...sure did
BTW...you can purchase Humalog just about anywhere without a prescription....jackass
Not in California you cant. I onced watched Melvin Anthony illegealy buy Slin from a local dealer in Venice...he didnt exactly walk into the CVS, inside the clown building to do so.
Granted you could have had it shipped to you from an out of state pharmacy. So I probably shouldnt be breaking your balls over this...but I doubt that was the case.
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boy, are some of you guys are bunch of passive-agressive fucks or what???
frustrated wanna-be bodybuilders who spend a sizable chunk of time every day posting on a bodybuilding website................. ....but when you encounter an actual bodybuilder you have no response but to spit jealousy and vitriol about whether or not he used drugs or sold 12 amps of sustanon to a friend of his 7 years ago because you widsh so badly you were part of that bodybuilding inner-circle.
get a fucking life some of you................
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boy, are some of you guys are bunch of passive-agressive fucks or what???
frustrated wanna-be bodybuilders who spend a sizable chunk of time every day posting on a bodybuilding website................. ....but when you encounter an actual bodybuilder you have no response but to spit jealousy and vitriol about whether or not he used drugs or sold 12 amps of sustanon to a friend of his 7 years ago because you widsh so badly you were part of that bodybuilding inner-circle.
get a fucking life some of you................
chicky is the only one making a big deal about this
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chicky is the only one making a big deal about this
yeh, i cant believe he is still going back and forth with these guys
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yeh, i cant believe he is still going back and forth with these guys
because it keeps his name on the boards and people talking about him.
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Not in California you cant. I onced watched Melvin Anthony illegealy buy Slin from a local dealer in Venice...he didnt exactly walk into the CVS, inside the clown building to do so.
Granted you could have had it shipped to you from an out of state pharmacy. So I probably shouldnt be breaking your balls over this...but I doubt that was the case.
Of course you doubt it, because you dont know what you're talking about.
I lived in Cali during this time, walked right into a pharmacy asked for humalog, paid for it, left.
Educate yourself
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Of course you doubt it, because you dont know what you're talking about.
I lived in Cali during this time, walked right into a pharmacy asked for humalog, paid for it, left.
Educate yourself
I think that's pretty universal at least here in the US. Don't need a script for insulin.
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I think that's pretty universal at least here in the US. Don't need a script for insulin.
well to be specific, you dont need a script for the humalin's N or R. for the best insulin (the one most useful to bodybuilders) thats humalog, you do need a script
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Of course you doubt it, because you dont know what you're talking about.
I lived in Cali during this time, walked right into a pharmacy asked for humalog, paid for it, left.
Educate yourself
thats illegal and it would never happen.
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Of course you doubt it, because you don't know what you're talking about.
I lived in Cali during this time, walked right into a pharmacy asked for humalog, paid for it, left.
Educate yourself
If you keep this up Geppeto is going to be very upset with you.... *sigh*. Chick who do you think you are talking to? There is not one pharmacy in Cali that you can just waltz in and buy insulin without a script, (let alone Humalog). The only exception to this is if you can prove one of your diabetic family members is having an emergency. In fact...even though it is legal to buy up to ten needles, and ten syringes in Cali, (do to a law they put on the books about 4-5 years ago..so junkies wouldn't reuse needles), almost every pharmacy in Cali will refuse to honor this law.
In fact this is/was such an issue that most of the top amateurs, in Venice were having to pick up regular slin, off the black market. Even Gary Strydom was shopping around the Venice connections looking for slin...and I allready mentioned watching Melvin Anthony buying slin in Venice off of a dealer, (and no I wont name that persons name).
But no Chick....you somehow bucked the system and picked up Humalog without a script...from a pharmacy in California. You are THAT amazing! ::)
Ok...and lets say you were that incredible for a moment... even if you did manage to pull that off...Humalog still requires a script...and it would have been illegal for you to continue to possess it/use it without said script. Either way you broke the law. Which isn't a big deal...just admit it.
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thats illegal and it would never happen.
That's why they need gurus, they don't know their drugs. Humulin R, Humalog... pfft, what's the difference? :D
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Bump for epic silence from Chick.
M!
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No reason to lie.
No need to lie, when you don't answer the question
do you still claim to have legally obtained your prescriptions for steroids over the past 20 years?
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If you keep this up Geppeto is going to be very upset with you.... *sigh*. Chick who do you think you are talking to? There is not one pharmacy in Cali that you can just waltz in and buy insulin without a script, (let alone Humalog). The only exception to this is if you can prove one of your diabetic family members is having an emergency. In fact...even though it is legal to buy up to ten needles, and ten syringes in Cali, (do to a law they put on the books about 4-5 years ago..so junkies wouldn't reuse needles), almost every pharmacy in Cali will refuse to honor this law.
In fact this is/was such an issue that most of the top amateurs, in Venice were having to pick up regular slin, off the black market. Even Gary Strydom was shopping around the Venice connections looking for slin...and I allready mentioned watching Melvin Anthony buying slin in Venice off of a dealer, (and no I wont name that persons name).
But no Chick....you somehow bucked the system and picked up Humalog without a script...from a pharmacy in California. You are THAT amazing! ::)
Ok...and lets say you were that incredible for a moment... even if you did manage to pull that off...Humalog still requires a script...and it would have been illegal for you to continue to possess it/use it without said script. Either way you broke the law. Which isn't a big deal...just admit it.
Black people have brown skin
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Isn't it ironical that a clueless guy like me has no idea what the muscleheads have to do to be competitive? You know, get prescriptions from several doctors, take goodness knows what dangerous chemicals, and then not even place well year after year. That sounds like insanity to me. There is hapless Chick on the defensive running away with his proud tail between his legs. All that size and he is gutless. He can't disclose what he and his fellow athletes have to do in order to compete in the hallowed IFBB. Athletes rep my ass! The appointed one is a bona fide stooge of extraordinary standing. Even that buffoon, Goodrum, endorses Chick.
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Isn't it ironical that a clueless guy like me has no idea what the muscleheads have to do to be competitive? You know, get prescriptions from several doctors, take goodness knows what dangerous chemicals, and then not even place well year after year. That sounds like insanity to me. There is hapless Chick on the defensive running away with his proud tail between his legs. All that size and he is gutless. He can't disclose what he and his fellow athletes have to do in order to compete in the hallowed IFBB. Athletes rep my ass! The appointed one is a bona fide stooge of extraordinary standing. Even that buffoon, Goodrum, endorses Chick.
Why were you in that cage dressed in leather dominatrix type gear ???
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In all fairness Vince,Bob cant come out and say yes we take tons of illegal drugs to bodybuild
Its a criminal offence
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The cage shot was a joke. Guess most Getbiggers can't laugh at themselves.
From what Bob has been saying here he doesn't break the law. He and others have scripts or they go to Mexico for gear. If that were true then San Diego would be a hotbed of bodybuilding.
This is the only sport that openly endorses the use of steroids and other crap drugs.
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The cage shot was a joke. Guess most Getbiggers can't laugh at themselves.
From what Bob has been saying here he doesn't break the law. He and others have scripts or they go to Mexico for gear. If that were true then San Diego would be a hotbed of bodybuilding.
This is the only sport that openly endorses the use of steroids and other crap drugs.
LOL...yeah, because we all know that Mexico can only be accessed from S.D.
With your logic, wouldn't that account for MEXICO being the hotbed of BB?
IMBasile....
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Isn't it ironical that a clueless guy like me has no idea what the muscleheads have to do to be competitive? You know, get prescriptions from several doctors, take goodness knows what dangerous chemicals, and then not even place well year after year. That sounds like insanity to me. There is hapless Chick on the defensive running away with his proud tail between his legs. All that size and he is gutless. He can't disclose what he and his fellow athletes have to do in order to compete in the hallowed IFBB. Athletes rep my ass! The appointed one is a bona fide stooge of extraordinary standing. Even that buffoon, Goodrum, endorses Chick.
Once again, another hypocritical comment comes out of your mouth Basile. You blast others for taking steroids when you used them yourself to win the Mr Canada..... ::)
And no one would be stupid enough to publish their drug cycle up here knowing that they would be paid a visit from Federal Agents.....
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Why were you in that cage dressed in leather dominatrix type gear ???
queen, do you ever go to parties?
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queen, do you ever go to parties?
Not those types , then again i dont have a handlebar moustache :D
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If what you muscleheads are saying is true about pro bodybuilders why doesn't the DEA close the whole sport down? Raid the Olympia and shut it down. Test everyone, arrest them all and clean up the sport.
What is this shit where musclemen use heaps of drugs but can't say anything about it? Oh, yeah, the doctors who prescribe would be in trouble. That happened in Australia because doctors are not allowed to prescribe drugs to people who aren't ill. Of course, they make exceptions for plastic surgery and other enhancement procedures. Building muscle seems to be a special part of the self-improvement area but it has become illegal to buy and possess those chemicals. I swear this is insanity. No wonder guys like Chick shit himself when people ask direct questions. At least Goodrum mixed up his batch of goodies in his bathtub. Must have been a potent vet supply because he got boobs afterwards.
How on earth anyone can compare what was done 40 years ago to the modern insanity is something only a dunce like Goodrum can explain. It wasn't illegal to take Dianbol in bodybuilding, sport or even the Olympic Games in those days. Of course it was considered cheating and so most people kept quiet about using anything. What is two Dianabol tablets a day compared to what some allege is taken today even by the pro females. No thanks.
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Not those types , then again i dont have a handlebar moustache :D
oh ok, you just attend high summer elegant soirees? :) so do i
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If what you muscleheads are saying is true about pro bodybuilders why doesn't the DEA close the whole sport down? Raid the Olympia and shut it down. Test everyone, arrest them all and clean up the sport.
I don't think anybody suggested that pro bbers are major players in steroid movement. It'd only be like going to a rave and arresting everybody there. You get a lot of users, a few dealers but what you don't get is the source.
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So Bob , do you deal drugs from Mexico or Europe?
LOL...yeah, because we all know that Mexico can only be accessed from S.D.
With your logic, wouldn't that account for MEXICO being the hotbed of BB?
IMBasile....
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Good to see that your still dodging what I had to say Chick. You apparntly dont know the difference between your Humalogs, and your Humilins....well played sir.
M!
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what the fuck is wrong with some of you people, like a whining bunch of fucking pussy-hurt women.............."oh my god, your a criminal, you have used steroids"........give me a fucking break..................h alf you guys are the same kind of pussies who smoke pot 3 or 4 nights a week, and every couple weeks "splurge" with you paycheck from whatever bouncing job you are condemed to and go in on an 8-ball with your friends................a ll thats fine, but your too cowardly to use steroids.
so you bitch at people like bob, and who ever else will listen: "aren't steroids illegal, then technically your a criminal"....................its amazing some of you have been posting her for so long, yet know ABSOLUTELY nothing about real bodybuilding culture................. ..95%, or more, of every guy who uses steroids, has sold a bottle of test or a few d-bol to his friends here and there, its part of the culture, you help your friends out, maybe make a few bucks to put a dent in your next growth order.................so of course bob has sold a few bottles or amps here and there................... .big fucking deal.............so have i, and every juicer i know...........and of course he wont talk about it, he has a respected position in the ifbb, i wouldnt either...........what ?just so he can vindicate himself with a bunch of faceless message board haters.
you should be happy bob is still here at all putting up with some of your homo ass shit,,,,,,,,,,notice that every other named pro flew the coup a long time ago, but he still gets on here and mixes it up with everyone..............bu t half of you cant even appreciate that for a moment, because you are so busy trying to OUT him as a steroid user, or a guy who sold a couple of bottles of test to some douchebags you know back in 2002.
most of you are so naieve................pe ople in the know spend hours and hours laughing at you, and how gullible you are.
agreed X700 brother!
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put me down for 100 bucks to Mindspin bail fund lol
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I'd sue him without hesitating one second. I wouldn't let someone calling me a drug dealer on a public board without any proof, that's a whole new level of impertinence and certainly no joke.
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I'd sue him without hesitating one second. I wouldn't let someone calling me a drug dealer on a public board without any proof, that's a whole new level of impertinence and certainly no joke.
this is not a public board
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I'd sue him without hesitating one second. I wouldn't let someone calling me a drug dealer on a public board without any proof, that's a whole new level of impertinence and certainly no joke.
Hmm good point, I think that Paul Hupp LLB. should weigh in with a true legal opinion.
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Bob wont sue because in the end it will cost more than he'll ever hope to gain even if he did ' win ' he'll most likely force mindspin into a public apology for a baseless accusation
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Bob wont sue because in the end it will cost more than he'll ever hope to gain even if he did ' win ' he'll most likely force mindspin into a public apology for a baseless accusation
No, in some states there's still a death sentence.
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dont start this sue s##t up again. >:(
we just got over this BS with king and 240.
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LAWSUIT BITCH. >:(
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No, in some states there's still a death sentence.
Texas :-X they'll kill anyone
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Texas :-X they'll kill anyone
California as well. Mindspin will be sorry big time for the shit he's written.
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I hope that Bob does sue, it would be hilarious
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I am sure Rick Collins will be notified.
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what the fuck is wrong with some of you people, like a whining bunch of fucking pussy-hurt women.............."oh my god, your a criminal, you have used steroids"........give me a fucking break..................h alf you guys are the same kind of pussies who smoke pot 3 or 4 nights a week, and every couple weeks "splurge" with you paycheck from whatever bouncing job you are condemed to and go in on an 8-ball with your friends................a ll thats fine, but your too cowardly to use steroids.
so you bitch at people like bob, and who ever else will listen: "aren't steroids illegal, then technically your a criminal"....................its amazing some of you have been posting her for so long, yet know ABSOLUTELY nothing about real bodybuilding culture................. ..95%, or more, of every guy who uses steroids, has sold a bottle of test or a few d-bol to his friends here and there, its part of the culture, you help your friends out, maybe make a few bucks to put a dent in your next growth order.................so of course bob has sold a few bottles or amps here and there................... .big fucking deal.............so have i, and every juicer i know...........and of course he wont talk about it, he has a respected position in the ifbb, i wouldnt either...........what ?just so he can vindicate himself with a bunch of faceless message board haters.
you should be happy bob is still here at all putting up with some of your homo ass shit,,,,,,,,,,notice that every other named pro flew the coup a long time ago, but he still gets on here and mixes it up with everyone..............bu t half of you cant even appreciate that for a moment, because you are so busy trying to OUT him as a steroid user, or a guy who sold a couple of bottles of test to some douchebags you know back in 2002.
most of you are so naieve................pe ople in the know spend hours and hours laughing at you, and how gullible you are.
i don't disagree with a lot of your post including this one...However what you may not understand(and i'm assuming you don't by this post) is that 75% of getbig is what the cyber world would call Trolls...Goggle it bro...Most of the people "in the kNow" as you put it are contributing to the trolling but will never come forward...Getbig is here to bring out the unconscious of the bodybuilding world...That is Ron's genius...He knows(thru IP checks) that everyone that is anyone posts under gimmick names to get shit out that they know would'nt ever see the light of day...The real genius is everyone knows this but still does it and pretends at shows that its not really going on...Its almost like Ron is the CIA or NSA of bodybuilding...Oh fuck, now that I wrote that I just realize that Ron is a Zionist...Fuck we are all doomed and Ron is just gathering info for the real Elite...
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Modern top bodybuilding exist by the grace of drug abuse. not use, abuse!
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If what you muscleheads are saying is true about pro bodybuilders why doesn't the DEA close the whole sport down? Raid the Olympia and shut it down. Test everyone, arrest them all and clean up the sport.
What is this shit where musclemen use heaps of drugs but can't say anything about it? Oh, yeah, the doctors who prescribe would be in trouble. That happened in Australia because doctors are not allowed to prescribe drugs to people who aren't ill. Of course, they make exceptions for plastic surgery and other enhancement procedures. Building muscle seems to be a special part of the self-improvement area but it has become illegal to buy and possess those chemicals. I swear this is insanity. No wonder guys like Chick shit himself when people ask direct questions. At least Goodrum mixed up his batch of goodies in his bathtub. Must have been a potent vet supply because he got boobs afterwards.
How on earth anyone can compare what was done 40 years ago to the modern insanity is something only a dunce like Goodrum can explain. It wasn't illegal to take Dianbol in bodybuilding, sport or even the Olympic Games in those days. Of course it was considered cheating and so most people kept quiet about using anything. What is two Dianabol tablets a day compared to what some allege is taken today even by the pro females. No thanks.
why dont you check a little bit into professional football defensive and offensive line cycles,,,they sometimes take higher doses than us,,not as many drugs but in many cases higher doses than some of us,,
its almost in ewvery sport now days,,bodubuilding is just a show of the body kind of activity and first thing you thkn about is the drugs,,but! trust me many football platers not only major leage are on lots of testosterone and dianabol LOTS
you think many guys just walk around 295 6'3 at trrue 9-10%? umm got news for you ,,they are better clients than bodybuildiers
mj15 approved
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why dont you check a little bit into professional football defensive and offensive line cycles,,,they sometimes take higher doses than us,,not as many drugs but in many cases higher doses than some of us,,
its almost in ewvery sport now days,,bodubuilding is just a show of the body kind of activity and first thing you thkn about is the drugs,,but! trust me many football platers not only major leage are on lots of testosterone and dianabol LOTS
you think many guys just walk around 295 6'3 at trrue 9-10%? umm got news for you ,,they are better clients than bodybuildiers
mj15 approved
no s##t. hustle ur a$$ vs million dollar contract in hand for gear purchases
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boy, are some of you guys are bunch of passive-agressive fucks or what???
frustrated wanna-be bodybuilders who spend a sizable chunk of time every day posting on a bodybuilding website................. ....but when you encounter an actual bodybuilder you have no response but to spit jealousy and vitriol about whether or not he used drugs or sold 12 amps of sustanon to a friend of his 7 years ago because you widsh so badly you were part of that bodybuilding inner-circle.
get a fucking life some of you................
Agreed X700....I'm happy Bob takes the time to post....it's funny sometimes when you guys goof on Bob but some of you take things way too far and try to demean him....that only hurts us all in the end
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Black people have brown skin
your mother likes brown skin
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Man, if it's true that many of GetBig's elite really are lawyers in real life, I hope I never have to hire any of them at some point in my life. You guys suck at having a simple discourse!
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LOL...laughable.
Guess if your hero Craig said it, it must be true
Interestingly - I helped Craig back in 2002 (and he was super happy with his look - he even managed to beat Melvin in Sacramento - if I remember correctly?) and ;) he didn't use even half the amount of that 3 grams/week - that supposedly Branch claims he uses...
Problem I had with Craig was: 'bain...that he used...
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your mother likes brown skin
Well she has brown skin,being norweigan dark coloured,and so do I,and she likes me,so you are right,my mother does like brown skin
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Liars for their own benefit. Go tell Chad Nichols that Milos says 750mg of test per week is the average of a pro... ffs 750mg is lower than state level guys.
Chad already knows that my athletes don't use more than 750 mg of test per week...Couple of my athletes that he advised after me - doubled the amount of test - and...!!!- lost size... ??? >:(
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Man, if it's true that many of GetBig's elite really are lawyers in real life, I hope I never have to hire any of them at some point in my life. You guys suck at having a simple discourse!
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Well she has brown skin,being norweigan dark coloured,and so do I,and she likes me,so you are right,my mother does like brown skin
oh you know what brown skin she REALLY likes ;)
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Chad already knows that my athletes don't use more than 750 mg of test per week...Couple of my athletes that he advised after me - doubled the amount of test - and...!!!- lost size... ??? >:(
provide some proof or evidence or your just bullshitting as usual
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provide some proof or evidence or your just bullshitting as usual
Dennis Wolf has gone downhill since stopped work with Milos.
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Interestingly - I helped Craig back in 2002 (and he was super happy with his look - he even managed to beat Melvin in Sacramento - if I remember correctly?) and ;) he didn't use even half the amount of that 3 grams/week - that supposedly Branch claims he uses...
Even 1.5g/wk is a shitload of gear. Especially if you're combining it with GH and 'slin.
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i don't disagree with a lot of your post including this one...However what you may not understand(and i'm assuming you don't by this post) is that 75% of getbig is what the cyber world would call Trolls...Goggle it bro...Most of the people "in the kNow" as you put it are contributing to the trolling but will never come forward...Getbig is here to bring out the unconscious of the bodybuilding world...That is Ron's genius...He knows(thru IP checks) that everyone that is anyone posts under gimmick names to get shit out that they know would'nt ever see the light of day...The real genius is everyone knows this but still does it and pretends at shows that its not really going on...Its almost like Ron is the CIA or NSA of bodybuilding...Oh fuck, now that I wrote that I just realize that Ron is a Zionist...Fuck we are all doomed and Ron is just gathering info for the real Elite...
i got to admit, that is a pretty astute observation............. ...as with anything else in life there is always a second, deeper more complex layer once you look under the surface............i dont doubt that there are alot of recognizable names in the industry posting here regularly.........two things though:
1..getbig isnt what it used to be
2...the handful of posters who i was directly refering to, are definatly not BB pros giving disinformation.......... ..and if they are, they are very good at what they are doing
but yeah, ron is definatly an internet pimp..........possibly a mosssad agent.........definatly a zionist ;) ;)
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Agreed X700....I'm happy Bob takes the time to post....it's funny sometimes when you guys goof on Bob but some of you take things way too far and try to demean him....that only hurts us all in the end
yeh, im not saying anyone has to suck bobs nuts and treat him like some kind of deity, becuase lord knows bob talks just as much shit, possibly even a little more then the rest of us...................... but the whole trying to "OUT" him as a "criminal" and "steroid user" thing is just so fuckign weak.............if you are going to do battle with bob there is so much more tangible material to latch on to.
;D ;D ;D
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Interestingly - I helped Craig back in 2002 (and he was super happy with his look - he even managed to beat Melvin in Sacramento - if I remember correctly?) and ;) he didn't use even half the amount of that 3 grams/week - that supposedly Branch claims he uses...
Problem I had with Craig was: 'bain...that he used...
Craig loved nubain
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so you bitch at people like bob, and who ever else will listen: "aren't steroids illegal, then technically your a criminal"....................its amazing some of you have been posting her for so long, yet know ABSOLUTELY nothing about real bodybuilding culture................. ..95%, or more, of every guy who uses steroids, has sold a bottle of test or a few d-bol to his friends here and there, its part of the culture, you help your friends out, maybe make a few bucks to put a dent in your next growth order.................so of course bob has sold a few bottles or amps here and there................... .big fucking deal.............so have i, and every juicer i know...........and of course he wont talk about it, he has a respected position in the ifbb, i wouldnt either...........what ?just so he can vindicate himself with a bunch of faceless message board haters.
The reason Bob gets so much shit on that particular topic is because he's one of those "rules are rules" "law n order" types on just about every other topic. It's all about pointing out hypocrisy.
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Craig loved nubain
i never understood the whole nubain thing............i was an opiate addict, so i did the whole pantheon from vicoden to percs to oxycontin, to fentanyl, to heroin to nubain...............and maybe it is because of the fact that i used stronger opiates that did not have a ceiling effect that nubain has..........nubain does not really make you feel that high though, but maybe to someone who is new to opiates it might..
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The reason Bob gets so much shit on that particular topic is because he's one of those "rules are rules" "law n order" types on just about every other topic. It's all about pointing out hypocrisy.
very very good point, he does act like a real fucking stickler about everything he is involved in................and welcome back ;D ;D
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................and welcome back ;D ;D
Thanks!
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Bob,
were there any "random drug tests" conducted by NPC at the USAs?
the same test your daddy rockell made great claims about?
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Bob,
were there any "random drug tests" conducted by NPC at the USAs?
the same test your daddy rockell made great claims about?
How would I know?
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Ha ha! I'm so in your head. First, I didn't use "boat loads" Over a 4 year period, I went on and off a few cycles. Never did GH, insulin or any of the other crap you guys are using nowadays.
That said, I will agree with you. Drugs can only do so much. Take you for example. You've been pumping yourself full of hormones for about 40 years, and still you placed last at the Mr. Olympia. No amount of drugs could turn you into Ronnie Coleman. It must suck to be so shitty at something you love so much....hahhahahah!!
Chick just got owned.... ;D ;D ;D
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How would I know?
I thought you knew everything... don't you and Manion talk daily, so you know what to say on the boards?
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Chick post your cycle of Anabolics you used getting ready for the Master's!! It can't hurt at all to lay it out.
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Chick post your cycle of Anabolics you used getting ready for the Master's!! It can't hurt at all to lay it out.
This is the EXACT cycle I used....
HTH
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Chick post your cycle of Anabolics you used getting ready for the Master's!! It can't hurt at all to lay it out.
Bob is 100% natural! Gear is only a "finishing touch", maybe a 2% improvment... don't you know anything? ::)
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i never understood the whole nubain thing............i was an opiate addict, so i did the whole pantheon from vicoden to percs to oxycontin, to fentanyl, to heroin to nubain...............and maybe it is because of the fact that i used stronger opiates that did not have a ceiling effect that nubain has..........nubain does not really make you feel that high though, but maybe to someone who is new to opiates it might..
Method - how did you become an addict? Why did you start using those things, and after that why did you keep using more and more? Is it really that addictive?
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This is the EXACT cycle I used....
HTH
Bob don't lie now. We all know that you walked on a treadmill when getting ready for the Master's. We have all seen the videos.
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Bob don't lie now. We all know that you walked on a treadmill when getting ready for the Master's. We have all seen the videos.
Ya got me there, bro...
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We all know that you walked on a treadmill when getting ready for the Master's.
At 1.5mph for 30 mins, so as not to burn muscle. :D
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At 1.5mph for 30 mins, so as not to burn muscle. :D
More like 3.0 for 60 minutes
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More like 3.0 for 60 minutes
Oh, ok. Though I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that you said 45 minutes max since you start to burn muscle after that.
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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That caption always cracks me up...
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That caption always cracks me up...
Gayest pic I ever saw :D
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Gayest pic I ever saw :D
I wonder where Chicks left hand is in the pic. ;D ;D
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I wonder where Chicks left hand is in the pic. ;D ;D
Gently cupping Tom's ass.
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Gayest pic I ever saw :D
Ha! You should see what db did with it. Priceless. ;D
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Ha! You should see what db did with it. Priceless. ;D
db can you post what you did with it? ???
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How would I know?
You like to sound like you know everything that goes on in bodybuilding,
it is hard to beleive that Chick doesn't know about this "random" drug testing that goes on.
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IMO, I think pro doesn't use more than 1g of test a week (of course some maybe more and other may be less)
What's the difference between pro and amateur is the amount of GH they use. Pro use tons of GH and can afford it. For an amateur it's harder.
To be a pro bodybuilder you need a lot of money and a good dealer with legit human grade stuff.
When I was in Venice gold's gym I heard lots of weirds stories about bodybuilder doing some weirds stuff to get money or to get steroids or hormones. I don't know if it's true but it's probably.
A.
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getbig has become a place where once enthusiastic bodybuilding fans (now jaded bodybuilding fans that have turned to MMA) come to tear down guys who followed their dreams and worked hard and turned pro.
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db can you post what you did with it? ???
yes please post it...it is the funniest thing I have ever seen on getbig
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=247284.0;attach=328508;image)
OH MY GOD....funny..I never get tired of seeing that pic...good job db ;D ;D ;D
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what, haven't any of you bros ever given your buddy a reach-around? :D
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Classic. :)
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what, haven't any of you bros ever given your buddy a reach-around? :D
I can't stop laughing.......HA!!!
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getbig has become a place where once enthusiastic bodybuilding fans (now jaded bodybuilding fans that have turned to MMA) come to tear down guys who followed their dreams and worked hard and turned pro. ended up as drug abusing gay prostitutes and/or drug dealers (aka "living the dream")
fixed.
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If your not Aryan then hang it up.....
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Yep...sure did
BTW...you can purchase Humalog just about anywhere without a prescription....jackass
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Bob?
Are you OK?
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Bob?
Are you OK?
what's wrong Milos?
you didn't think Bob used insulin ?
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Bob?
Are you OK?
Thats the GAYEST pic I have ever seen ;)
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what's wrong Milos?
you didn't think Bob used insulin ?
Bob doesn't use drugs! He's all overpriced egg whites and bb.com products. ::)
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Of course you doubt it, because you dont know what you're talking about.
I lived in Cali during this time, walked right into a pharmacy asked for humalog, paid for it, left.
Educate yourself
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I still live in Cali, and if I walk right into a pharmacy asked for humalog - can I use you as reference and say - the same humalog Bob is getting here...?
Can you give me an address?
And...Bob...when you tell someone:
"Of course you doubt it, because you don't know what you're talking about.
Educate yourself"
Make sure you have you facts straight :-X
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Thats the GAYEST pic I have ever seen ;)
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Are you OK?
Oh...you must be the reason people state - nobody's perfect...!
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Are you OK?
Oh...you must be the reason people state - nobody's perfect...!
Was Chick a big part in you getting banded from the IFBB?
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Snake OilTM
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???
I still live in Cali, and if I walk right into a pharmacy asked for humalog - can I use you as reference and say - the same humalog Bob is getting here...?
Can you give me an address?
And...Bob...when you tell someone:
"Of course you doubt it, because you don't know what you're talking about.
Educate yourself"
Make sure you have you facts straight :-X
Are you saying Chick is talking out of his ass?
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Are you saying Chick is talking out of his ass?
Just every so often...like this time...for example...
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Just every so often...like this time...for example...
Thanks, it feels great to hear that from you.
Chick is a complete idiot.
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???
I still live in Cali, and if I walk right into a pharmacy asked for humalog - can I use you as reference and say - the same humalog Bob is getting here...?
Can you give me an address?
And...Bob...when you tell someone:
"Of course you doubt it, because you don't know what you're talking about.
Educate yourself"
Make sure you have you facts straight :-X
Milos I must thank you for reinforcing my point! Chick still wont answer me since calling him out on this. As you are well aware...there isnt a single pharmacy in Cali...where you can just waltz in and pick up Humalog...but the always law-abiding Chick has somehow found this mythical place. We are still waiting for an answer Chick!
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If you keep this up Geppeto is going to be very upset with you.... *sigh*. Chick who do you think you are talking to? There is not one pharmacy in Cali that you can just waltz in and buy insulin without a script, (let alone Humalog). The only exception to this is if you can prove one of your diabetic family members is having an emergency. In fact...even though it is legal to buy up to ten needles, and ten syringes in Cali, (do to a law they put on the books about 4-5 years ago..so junkies wouldn't reuse needles), almost every pharmacy in Cali will refuse to honor this law.
In fact this is/was such an issue that most of the top amateurs, in Venice were having to pick up regular slin, off the black market. Even Gary Strydom was shopping around the Venice connections looking for slin...and I allready mentioned watching Melvin Anthony buying slin in Venice off of a dealer, (and no I wont name that persons name).
But no Chick....you somehow bucked the system and picked up Humalog without a script...from a pharmacy in California. You are THAT amazing! ::)
Ok...and lets say you were that incredible for a moment... even if you did manage to pull that off...Humalog still requires a script...and it would have been illegal for you to continue to possess it/use it without said script. Either way you broke the law. Which isn't a big deal...just admit it.
Milos or Chick... CAre to comment on this above quote? Perhaps ?Chick can tell us why he is capable of buying Humalog without a script...when no one else in CAli seems to be able to pull this off?
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Milos or Chick... CAre to comment on this above quote? Perhaps ?Chick can tell us why he is capable of buying Humalog without a script...when no one else in CAli seems to be able to pull this off?
the same place where Chick also gets his Trenbolone, HGH, and all the other stuff, he likes to call it "pharmacy", that must be the only solution.
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the same place where Chick also gets his Trenbolone, HGH, and all the other stuff, he likes to call it "pharmacy", that must be the only solution.
Chic is a diabetic and has a script...now let the man peruse the thread entitled "Pictures of my erect penis" in peace.
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YOU CAN NOT BUY HUMALOG IN CALI!!! I tried LOL ....
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Humalog requires a script in all states (but not in Canada). Humalin-R (rapid acting) and the longer acting Humalin are available OTC in all states. These insulins are harder to regulate for non-diabetics so they are not preferred by bodybuilders.