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My vote: Lee haney.
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No way, Haney is the last Mr. O to actually have shape and small waist while being a mass monster in his time. I'd say Dorian.
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Larry Scott or maybe Chris Dickerson - he had poor arm development, pointy elbows and a horible torn pec - the guy was all over the place
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Columbo
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Larry Scott
he looks way better than jay the fridge.
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It really depends on what they looked like in their respective era. Obviously guys like Scott, who would have a tough time winning a regional or local show now days, were way a head of the curve during their reigns. For many of Dorians wins, I thought their were others such as Ray that should've have beaten him once or twice. Dorian was questionable in many of his wins with the exception of maybe '93 and '97. Even in '93 though Ray and Wheeler looked incredible.
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Columbo
Yes i hate the way he wore a mac and solved murders before hitting a most muscular. Oh wait, you must mean Columbu?
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dickerson, arnold, columbo
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Ronnie.
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JAY GUTLER
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It really depends on what they looked like in their respective era. Obviously guys like Scott, who would have a tough time winning a regional or local show now days, were way a head of the curve during their reigns. For many of Dorians wins, I thought their were others such as Ray that should've have beaten him once or twice. Dorian was questionable in many of his wins with the exception of maybe '93 and '97. Even in '93 though Ray and Wheeler looked incredible.
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It really depends on what they looked like in their respective era. Obviously guys like Scott, who would have a tough time winning a regional or local show now days, were way a head of the curve during their reigns. For many of Dorians wins, I thought their were others such as Ray that should've have beaten him once or twice. Dorian was questionable in many of his wins with the exception of maybe '93 and '97. Even in '93 though Ray and Wheeler looked incredible.
huh ???
You think 97 was not questionable and 95 was? wtf
You think he 93 was questionable??? hahaha, Dorian was so far ahead of the pack in 93 it wasnt even funny.
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Arnold... Enough is enough
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Franco
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huh ???
You think 97 was not questionable and 95 was? wtf
You think he 93 was questionable??? hahaha, Dorian was so far ahead of the pack in 93 it wasnt even funny.
Yea, the '97 version of Dorian was really the only one that impressed me. In '93, I liked Flex's look better - awesome shape and symmetry combined with great aesthetics -- all of which dorian didn't include with his package. I felt like Dorian could have been beaten most of the years he was winning but that's because I'm not a fan of his look.
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1f2c8_dorian-yates-a-mr-olympia-1997_sport
granted he blew hi sbi's and tri's a few weeks before the show, lol, which were always shitty anyway on him, this was the first Olympia I actually gained respect for him for the package he brought.
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I'd say Columbu
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its gotta be Chris Dickerson... I mean Colombo's win in '76 was fair and square. Larry Scott looked good given the time period he competed in.
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Columbu - sausage legs
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Zane, Columbu, Haney hands down...
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Haney - especially for an 8 time Mr. O (wouldn't win his class at the Nationals today)
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1.Frank Zane
2.Frank Zane
3.Frank Zane
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Yea, the '97 version of Dorian was really the only one that impressed me. In '93, I liked Flex's look better - awesome shape and symmetry combined with great aesthetics -- all of which dorian didn't include with his package. I felt like Dorian could have been beaten most of the years he was winning but that's because I'm not a fan of his look.
so a 97 Dorian impressed u and in 93 he didnt
Yet he was far far superiour in 93
rite...
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Haney - especially for an 8 time Mr. O (wouldn't win his class at the Nationals today)
I won't even go into the supreme idiocy of that statement.
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I won't even go into the supreme idiocy of that statement.
X2
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so a 97 Dorian impressed u and in 93 he didnt
Yet he was far far superiour in 93
rite...
No, he didn't. His chest was flat, biceps lacked peak and looked awful in front and back double bicep poses, which they essentially did his entire career, and in '97 were even worse. His muscle bellies weren't as full back then and his shape basically sucked.
He was fuller and had better shape in '97 and was bigger overall.
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Haney - especially for an 8 time Mr. O (wouldn't win his class at the Nationals today)
Haney had a phenomenal physique, even by todays standards, I still don't see lat and upper chest development like his, even today. Haney had a small waist wide flaring lats, complete chest development, symmetry and proportion. His weak point were his arm and leg size, which were only slightly under developed compared to the rest of his physique.
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Haney had a phenomenal physique, even by todays standards, I still don't see lat and upper chest development like his, even today. Haney had a small waist wide flaring lats, complete chest development, symmetry and proportion. His weak point were his arm and leg size, which were only slightly under developed compared to the rest of his physique.
agreed
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(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy4.jpg)
'97 Dorian
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I don't think that any of the Mr Olympias are overrated.
Dickerson was rewarded for being the best bodybuilder in the early eighties at a time when creative aesthetics were being rewarded. How then can he be underrated if he is being rewarded for what he was best at?
As for Samir it makes no difference if he failed to produce after 1983 cause the night that he won, he DID produce.
The idea that Zane was a swimmer is ridiculous. Number one, swimmers cannot be beat Mentzer and secondly, Zane was being rewarded for conditioning and classical balance. His physique was big enough to highlight those points so again, how can he be overrated for being successful at what he was good at?
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:o
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No way, Haney is the last Mr. O to actually have shape and small waist while being a mass monster in his time. I'd say Dorian.
No, Haney wasn't the last Mr. O to have shape and a small waist, while in shape.
Ronnie Coleman (at least his first two Olympias) fits the bill.
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Ronnies waist was smaller than most, for his size, but nobody ever looked at him sayin "damn he's gotta small waist" or "he's got great shape". Ronnie was just a freak.
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Ronnies waist was smaller than most, for his size, but nobody ever looked at him sayin "damn he's gotta small waist" or "he's got great shape". Ronnie was just a freak.
I beg to differ. Check the MuscleMag article on Coleman back in '96, when (as he would later do at the Olympia) he upset Flex Wheeler for the Canada Pro Cup.
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If you want to back up that far then sure. But the Ronnie that was winning Mr. O's wasn't exactly tiny waisted with suberb shape.
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But the Ronnie that was winning Mr. O's wasn't exactly tiny waisted with suberb shape.
most would disagree with that statement:
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most would disagree with that statement:
Yea, if I were talking about Flex Wheeler. Now there's great shape and a tiny waist.
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Yea, if I were talking about Flex Wheeler. Now there's great shape and a tiny waist.
and a whole lotta oil 8)
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Zane for not looking like gave he a fuck in the gym. And don't give me that is wanted classic lines bullshit, he chest was shallow, his back lacked depth, what hamstrings????, quads and calves were small .... he was half a bodybuilder.
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(http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/dy4.jpg)
'97 Dorian
'97 Dorian
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'97 Dorian
Dorian 1997 ;)
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97 ;D
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Dorian 1997 ;)
hahaha how predictable, my puppy dog followed another post of mine and replied within minutes ;D
BTW Dorian looks worse in those comparisons that are not from the back ;)
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Dorian 1997 :D
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hahaha how predictable, my puppy dog followed another post of mine and replied within minutes ;D
BTW Dorian looks worse in those comparisons that are not from the back ;)
I enjoy correcting trolls ;)
sure he does hence why he lost ;)
Dorian kills him from the sides and back but easily beats him in the front latspread but you can give Nasser the standing relaxed from the front , front double biceps and ab-thigh , Dorian leaves him for dead everywhere else
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I enjoy correcting trolls ;)
sure he does hence why he lost ;)
Dorian kills him from the sides and back but easily beats him in the front latspread but you can give Nasser the standing relaxed from the front , front double biceps and ab-thigh , Dorian leaves him for dead everywhere else
::)
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Dorian 1997 :D
See backfire Yates wins both
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See backfire Yates wins both
Dorian wins in the bigger-waist component - not much else that picture shows
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I enjoy correcting trolls ;)
sure he does hence why he lost ;)
Dorian kills him from the sides and back but easily beats him in the front latspread but you can give Nasser the standing relaxed from the front , front double biceps and ab-thigh , Dorian leaves him for dead everywhere else
First time I disagree with you - I think Doz looks better in the abs n thigh too ;D
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Dorian wins in the bigger-waist component - not much else that picture shows
He has a bigger waist and that means what? he almost always had a bigger waist than everyone he competed with
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First time I disagree with you - I think Doz looks better in the abs n thigh too ;D
I was in the giving mood ;D
they both weigh the same yet Dorian looks bigger
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That's all you have? ;D
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I was in the giving mood ;D
they both weigh the same yet Dorian looks bigger
hahaha I can't believe you are using that pic to say Dorian looks bigger as its scaled horribly. Dorian's lats were a tad bit wider but his waist was much wider and even caved outward, and finally his abs looked ugly in comparison.
That's all you have? ;D
Yeah its starting to get boring debating with you whether Dorian looks better or worse on pictures where he clearly looks worse.
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hahaha I can't believe you are using that pic to say Dorian looks bigger as its scaled horribly. Dorian's lats were a tad bit wider but his waist was much wider and even caved outward, and finally his abs looked ugly in comparison.
Yeah its starting to get boring debating with you whether Dorian looks better or worse on pictures where he clearly looks worse.
hahaha I can't believe you are using that pic to say Dorian looks bigger as its scaled horribly. Dorian's lats were a tad bit wider but his waist was much wider and even caved outward, and finally his abs looked ugly in comparison.
Hahahahaha you should recognize where that pics from " Nasser on the way " ;)
Yeah its starting to get boring debating with you whether Dorian looks better or worse on pictures where he clearly looks worse.
Clearly looks worse to who? a self-professed Nasser devotee ? the judges thought Dorian looked better hence why he was the winner and your blind faith in Nasser and all his ramblings of politics don't change that fact
I honestly feel Nasser looks better in the standing relaxed from the front , the front double biceps poses , and the ab-thigh , you can haggle and say he at least looks as good from the sides but he's left for dead in the standing relaxed from the back , back double biceps , rear latspread , overall he wasn't good enough to beat Dorian
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Hahahahaha you should recognize where that pics from " Nasser on the way " ;)
Clearly looks worse to who? a self-professed Nasser devotee ? the judges thought Dorian looked better hence why he was the winner and your blind faith in Nasser and all his ramblings of politics don't change that fact
I honestly feel Nasser looks better in the standing relaxed from the front , the front double biceps poses , and the ab-thigh , you can haggle and say he at least looks as good from the sides but he's left for dead in the standing relaxed from the back , back double biceps , rear latspread , overall he wasn't good enough to beat Dorian
agreed -- on all points
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First time I disagree with you - I think Doz looks better in the abs n thigh too ;D
really?!.. so how come you said before that nasser deserved to beat dorian in 97?!!.. dont contradict yourself kiwi :P
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That's all you have? ;D
and how you see dorian better than nasser in this pic.??.. dont you think that dorian's quads need more separation here?.. dont they look small beside nasser's??.. dont you see how weak and small his arms here, not because he is beside nasser but even if you look at him separately.. dont you see how nasser's abs is much better???.. how nasser's chest is thicker?!.............. is dorian's balls the only thing you can see :P :P
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Yates = Mr Olympia
Nasser = Mr Oil-ympia
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;D
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;D
Looooool ;D
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DY: " ...even with 1 arm I can beat this guy..."
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Haney - especially for an 8 time Mr. O (wouldn't win his class at the Nationals today)
Most pros today dont have a chest half the size of Haneys, he would still be on top today and still looks better than all top 6 of 2009 Mr. O athletes. He would wipe the floor with top nationals athletes.
There is no comparison against Haney, he looked great fore size and shape combined.
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I don’t think anyone can beat that for the title ;D
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It's funny how 11 years after his retirement certain people on this board are still bitter about their heroes being annihilated by the one and only Dorian Yates. They all lost to a superior athlete. Get over it.
Eat this haters:
(http://www.learn-bodybuilding.com/images/dorian_yates_front_double_biceps.jpg)
LOL
(http://62.168.168.232/videothumbs/44d4f71688c3081217100504.jpg)
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dickerson, arnold, columbo
Who was better than Arnold when he wasn't up against Sergio?
NO ONE.
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Haney - especially for an 8 time Mr. O (wouldn't win his class at the Nationals today)
That's bullshit. The man was 5'11" and 250 pounds onstage. He had a MASSIVE chest, was hard as a rock, very decent leg development and a sick vacuum. He DOMINATED many great competitors in his era: Bertil Fox, Frank Zane, Mohammad Makkaway, Berry Demey, Bob Paris, Mike Christian, Lee Labrada and Rich Gaspari. He was definitely deserving of his titles.
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My vote: Lee haney.
if you said Lee Haney was overrated, then you don't know a fucking thing about bodybuilding, Moron
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I don't get the Haney stuff.
Who was supposed to beat him? Gaspari? DeMay? Mike Christian? Gaspari beat him on condition, but not on size, shape, aesthetics....etc.
The only reason he had to retire was because he knew Dorian was about to beat him.
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if you said Lee Haney was overrated, then you don't know a fucking thing about bodybuilding, Moron
He also saids that Levrone was overrated and that he is narrow.
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97 ;D
this Olympia lineup has got to be one of the best of all time. it will be a while before we see the next generation of top competitors like these again
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Lee Haney is almost the most underrated (forgotten) Mr Olympia.
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This picture clearly shows the difference in conditioning between Nasser and Dorian.
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It's funny how 11 years after his retirement certain people on this board are still bitter about their heroes being annihilated by the one and only Dorian Yates. They all lost to a superior athlete. Get over it.
Eat this haters:
(http://www.learn-bodybuilding.com/images/dorian_yates_front_double_biceps.jpg)
LOL
(http://62.168.168.232/videothumbs/44d4f71688c3081217100504.jpg)
ronnie was losing to everyone and had a crappy physique when dorian beat him..
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9th place ;D
and this is a crappy physique? ??? well compared to Dorian ;)
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Eat this haters:
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and how you see dorian better than nasser in this pic.??.. dont you think that dorian's quads need more separation here?.. dont they look small beside nasser's??.. dont you see how weak and small his arms here, not because he is beside nasser but even if you look at him separately.. dont you see how nasser's abs is much better???.. how nasser's chest is thicker?!.............. is dorian's balls the only thing you can see :P :P
ND only sees whatever the judges want him to see. If the judges had Nasser in 1st, he would be saying Nasser was better in 97.
This picture clearly shows the difference in conditioning between Nasser and Dorian.
How so? ??? ???
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9th place ;D
and this is a crappy physique? ??? well compared to Dorian ;)
yup. its crappy.
crappy compared to what he looked like in 98/99 with a lot more size and much better conditioning..
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yup. its crappy.
crappy compared to what he looked like in 98/99 with a lot more size and much better conditioning..
Oh so now you're forced to amend your statement ;D
crappy compared to an even crappier Yates an uninjured Dorian would leave him for dead
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ND only sees whatever the judges want him to see. If the judges had Nasser in 1st, he would be saying Nasser was better in 97.
How so? ??? ???
And you only see with Nasser's eyes which are delusional , the guy still thinks he placed third in 1996 ;D
the judges are wrong when Nasser loses and right when he wins , same tired spiel
Nasser = not good enough
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when was the last time dorian was uninjured, oh yeah, way back in 1993 thanks to his great training techniques LOL
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when was the last time dorian was uninjured, oh yeah, way back in 1993 thanks to his great training techniques LOL
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Who cares . Dorian uninjured would leave ANY Ronnie Coleman for dead , he beat an injured Ronnie for years ;)
Dorian at 269 pounds would trampled Coleman he's to big , to complete , to conditioned , to balanced Ronnie would be humbled real quick ;)
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Dorian uninjured would leave ANY Ronnie Coleman for dead
LOL hell no: his best pose in his best ever shape still gets beat:
way more detail, better shape, smaller waist, equally thick lats etc.
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LOL hell no: his best pose in his best ever shape still gets beat:
way more detail, better shape, smaller waist, equally thick lats etc.
You keep typing this and absolutely NO agrees with you , Dorian's front latspread has been dubbed devastating Ronnie can even do it properly :-\
equally thick lats? oh boy ::) not even close , Dorian just kills Ronnie on lats better shape , sweep , thickness , detail it's not even close
and typical Hulkster omit the judging criteria that Dorian kills him on like density & dryness , balance & proportion , and that's not even including the other mandatory poses
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The difference between lats is staggering , Dorians are wider , take up much more space between his arms , have better sweep , and a hell of a lot more detail
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No one matches these lats
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take up much more space between his arms
not hard to do when you have no arms or bis to speak of... :-\
look at this domination of dorian:
ronnie makes it look like he doesn't even train his arms or even diet.
the difference in whole body detail is that staggering.. :o
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not hard to do when you have no arms or bis to speak of... :-\
look at this domination of dorian:
Backfire , Dorian kills him , much better lats on Yates much better pose , more balanced harder , drier more complete
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not hard to do when you have no arms or bis to speak of... :-\
look at this domination of dorian:
ronnie makes it look like he doesn't even train his arms or even diet.
the difference in whole body detail is that staggering.. :o
Actually if you have no arms and there is less space between your lats and your arms then that would mean your lats have to be much bigger so try again their schmoe boy.
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Actually if you have no arms and there is less space between your lats and your arms then that would mean your lats have to be much bigger so try again their schmoe boy.
lmfao poor Hulkster the kid is not that bright
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Actually if you have no arms and there is less space between your lats and your arms then that would mean your lats have to be much bigger so try again their schmoe boy.
Facts and logic - two things that seldom work in favor of Hulkster and never, when he is talking about Dorian Yates ;D
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Actually if you have no arms and there is less space between your lats and your arms then that would mean your lats have to be much bigger so try again their schmoe boy.
wrong.
because ronnie has these muscles that dorian lacked called BICEPS and they literally hang in the way of his lats, obstructing the upper portion by his armpits.
you can see it all the time in ronnie lat spreads. less of his lats are visible as a result.
dorian does not have this problem because he has the worst arms of any Mr. Olympia since 1965.. :-\ so his lats appear a little thicker as a result.
the combo of dorian's thick lats and tiny arms is nothing new. fans all over have been speaking about this for years. his lat spread is nothing but lats, and piss poor everything else, except for calves of course..
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My vote: Lee haney.
BULL Sugar Honey Ice Tea!!!!!!!!!!!! but it IS your opinion.
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Hey pumpster you're back ;D
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No such thing of an overratted Mr. O!!!!!
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wrong.
because ronnie has these muscles that dorian lacked called BICEPS and they literally hang in the way of his lats, obstructing the upper portion by his armpits.
you can see it all the time in ronnie lat spreads. less of his lats are visible as a result.
dorian does not have this problem because he has the worst arms of any Mr. Olympia since 1965.. :-\ so his lats appear a little thicker as a result.
the combo of dorian's thick lats and tiny arms is nothing new. fans all over have been speaking about this for years. his lat spread is nothing but lats, and piss poor everything else, except for calves of course..
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=300759.0;attach=342582;image)
Either Ronnie has some high powered spot lights shining on him, or that pic has been sharpened. Hmmm, wonder how that could that have happened? ???
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wrong.
because ronnie has these muscles that dorian lacked called BICEPS and they literally hang in the way of his lats, obstructing the upper portion by his armpits.
you can see it all the time in ronnie lat spreads. less of his lats are visible as a result.
dorian does not have this problem because he has the worst arms of any Mr. Olympia since 1965.. :-\ so his lats appear a little thicker as a result.
the combo of dorian's thick lats and tiny arms is nothing new. fans all over have been speaking about this for years. his lat spread is nothing but lats, and piss poor everything else, except for calves of course..
If that pic isn't way oversharpened ;D
Flex Magazine June 2002
The lat spread that stunned and revolutionized the bodybuilding world. It is jumbo-jet wide with giant slabs of rock-hard muscle knitted together with gnarly detail. Even in this front shot, you can see the immensity of the billowing lats -- particularly the one on the right, which, amazingly, casts a terrifying shadow.
Why can you never find quotes like this about Ronnie? ;) if you say his is better why ?
All things considered Dorian's front latspread is just leaps & bounds better from head to toe
http://www.learn-bodybuilding.com/posing_front_lat_spread.aspx
read this article and why Ronnie's doesn't compare , learn what I mean when I tell you Ronnie & Nasser don't hit the pose properly combine that with the fact Dorian kills him in density & dryness , balance & proportion , completeness , sweep of lats thickness etc
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Either Ronnie has some high powered spot lights shining on him, or that pic has been sharpened. Hmmm, wonder how that could that have happened? ???
Hahahaha great minds !
He posts sharpened pics constantly to prove his ' point '
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Either Ronnie has some high powered spot lights shining on him, or that pic has been sharpened. Hmmm, wonder how that could that have happened? ???
Are you saying that if Hulkster sharpened his pics any more, the side-triceps shot of the 1st callout in the Mr Olympia 99 would look like this?
(http://data360.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/the-matrix-wwwdan-dareorg.jpg)
Just trolling, Hulkster ;D
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Are you saying that if Hulkster sharpened his pics any more, the side-triceps shot of the 1st callout in the Mr Olympia 99 would look like this?
(http://data360.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/the-matrix-wwwdan-dareorg.jpg)
Just trolling, Hulkster ;D
lmfao
someone needs to teach Hulkster the difference
Hulkster one of these pics are sharpened and one isn't guess which one ;D
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Hahahaha great minds !
He posts sharpened pics constantly to prove his ' point '
I have never sharpened anything.
you will find the pic here:
http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/coleman.html
:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
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It's Ronnie's structure that doesn't allow him to really open up that front lat spread. While some bodyparts look better in comparison to Dorian's in that pose, overall Dorian owns that pose.
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I have never sharpened anything.
you will find the pic here:
http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/coleman.html
:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
Typical stupid Hulkster I never claimed and even defended you when people have said you sharpened them , stupid NO ONE is saying you did it , however that pic is definitely worked
And still can't touch Dorian sharpened or not
Flex Magazine June 2002
The lat spread that stunned and revolutionized the bodybuilding world.
This is 2002 well after 1999 ;)
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LOL hell no: his best pose in his best ever shape still gets beat:
way more detail, better shape, smaller waist, equally thick lats etc.
Bullshit -- Dorian is owning a best ever Flex Wheeler--much more size, much better condition; Ronnie is winning vs. an off Flex Wheeler. Same goes for the Front Relaxed pose....
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Why is Nasser being mentioned in this thread? He never won a Mr. O ;D
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Holy shit, Hulkster, the glare from this pic hurts my eyes!
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Labrada is owning everyone in that pic...very impressive.
(Outed)
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Bullshit -- Dorian is owning a best ever Flex Wheeler--much more size, much better condition; Ronnie is winning vs. an off Flex Wheeler. Same goes for the Front Relaxed pose....
Everything you said is true except for one thing. Ronnie's front relaxed shot is fuckin out of this world and DESTROYS Dorians. Strange why it doesnt translate to the FLS where Dorian is better. Ronnie's shoulders about two feet wider and with a waist way smaller in the "relaxed" shot. Both awesome bodybuilders, dont know why everyone gets so bent about whos better.
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Bullshit -- Dorian is owning a best ever Flex Wheeler--much more size, much better condition; Ronnie is winning vs. an off Flex Wheeler. Same goes for the Front Relaxed pose....
it doesn't matter how dorian compares to flex
it doesn't matter how ronnie compoares to flex.
its only matters how ronnie compares to dorian.
and he crushes even his 93 best:
sorry nuthuggers...
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Yea, the '97 version of Dorian was really the only one that impressed me. In '93, I liked Flex's look better - awesome shape and symmetry combined with great aesthetics -- all of which dorian didn't include with his package. I felt like Dorian could have been beaten most of the years he was winning but that's because I'm not a fan of his look.
I thought the same watching the 93 video of Flex posing. He looks like number 1 by himself. Then in the pre-judging (the video did these in reverse) they stood next to each other and Dorian made him look like a little kid. It was all over.
Agree on 97 Dorian did look very large and was still dry, gut was off due to eating the same for the last three weeks and his metabilism dying due to lack of training from the Tri tear. Could have fixed that gut the next year.
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this thread is titled "overrated", i shouldnt see any ronnie OR dorian pics in this thread.
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Ronnie's front relaxed shot is fuckin out of this world and DESTROYS Dorians.
yup. same holds true for the front lat, rear lat, side chest.. you name it 8)
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this thread is titled "overrated", i shouldnt see any ronnie OR dorian pics in this thread.
uh. not so fast.
dorian used to get owned by the 13th place competitor...
you never saw that with Ronnie. and for good reason.
dorian was the most overrated Mr. O.
and everyone knows it, hence the reason the nuthuggers are freaking out.
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it doesn't matter how dorian compares to flex
it doesn't matter how ronnie compoares to flex.
its only matters how ronnie compares to dorian.
and he crushes even his 93 best:
sorry nuthuggers...
By that regard Dorian wins because Ronnie never compared to him when they competed side by side ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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wrong.
because ronnie has these muscles that dorian lacked called BICEPS and they literally hang in the way of his lats, obstructing the upper portion by his armpits.
you can see it all the time in ronnie lat spreads. less of his lats are visible as a result.
dorian does not have this problem because he has the worst arms of any Mr. Olympia since 1965.. :-\ so his lats appear a little thicker as a result.
the combo of dorian's thick lats and tiny arms is nothing new. fans all over have been speaking about this for years. his lat spread is nothing but lats, and piss poor everything else, except for calves of course..
LOL ok Hulky. Ronnie would need 27" arms to make his lats look that much smaller than Dorian's in the front lat spread. Top to bottom Dorians lats are thicker and wider. Even your stupid pics prove that. Try to come to reality just a little bit.
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Milos looking great...Charles Clairemont looking great...Labrada probably looking the best so far, (in the front relaxed anyway)....Bodybuilding was good once upon a time...
:-[
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dorian was the most overrated Mr. O.
Dumbest post ever.
Step aside, Matt T - there's a new sheriff in town.
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but dorian never competed against the Ronnie Coleman that was winning Mr. O's.
he competed against the ronnie that used to to have to stand beside Mike Matarazzo.
lol
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Dumbest post ever.
Step aside, Matt T - there's a new sheriff in town.
nope. its well documented, much to your dismay and the bitches on this thread :P
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Dumbest post ever.
Step aside, Matt T - there's a new sheriff in town.
In all fairness I think a strong argument can be made for Dorian being an overrated "O." However several other "O's" deserve to be debated before even considering Dorian....
My vote goes to Dickerson... followed closely by Dexter, then Franco, then Cutler... bad mojo the lot of them! >:(
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In all fairness I think a strong argument can be made for Dorian being an overrated "O."
a smart post.
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it doesn't matter how dorian compares to flex
it doesn't matter how ronnie compoares to flex.
its only matters how ronnie compares to dorian.
and he crushes even his 93 best:
sorry nuthuggers...
it means everything.
ronnie barely beat flex when he was at his best and flex was off - 98.
you are the only one on the planet who thinks ronnie in 99 was his best ever.
most will claim either 2003 or 2001 AC.
even ronnie said that - ronnie himself never mentions 99.
owned as always.
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jay culter
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Arnold... Enough is enough
Don't hate. ;D
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Dorian Yates. Hands down!
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In his day, Yates was the best. And there were quite a few days. He wiped the stage with Ronnie.
But if you compare Yates at his best to Ronnie at his best, Yates will come a close 2nd. By no means most overrated mr O ever...
Most overrated, the 2 biggest Weider propaganda machine products, Scott and Arnold. They didnt deserve all they got, even though they were great.
Most underrated, Haney. He dominated for close to a decade, and people dare say he wouldn't get anywhere in the Nats today...
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it doesn't matter how dorian compares to flex
it doesn't matter how ronnie compoares to flex.
its only matters how ronnie compares to dorian.
and he crushes even his 93 best:
sorry nuthuggers...
Epic post of Dorian not even in his front relaxed pose. Typical Hulkster bullshit -- as soon as he starts getting owned, which is happening more and more frequently, he posts the worst pics of Dorian and compares them to the best of Ronnie. Bottom line is that it is fucking close between Ronnie and Dorian...something you can't come to accept.
(check out the Shadow's Shadow in the second pic down :o)
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:o
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This picture clearly shows the difference in conditioning between Nasser and Dorian.
sure, nasser's condition is much better here, it's enough to compare their quads to know this :-X
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HaHaHaHa look at the wizard of eating shit sandwiches getting owned here.
3X had surgery with a PIPE WRENCH
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=300759.0;attach=342625;image)
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HaHaHaHa look at the wizard of truth eating shit sandwiches getting owned here. owning the tiny mind of mr. nobody "groink" all the time :-\
3X had surgery with a PIPE WRENCH AT LEAST mr. olympia 8)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=300759.0;attach=342625;image)
fixed..
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fixed..
Now THAT was truly lame, Saladtosser.
The Wizard of testicle touching expects more from his loyal ball-lickers
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Now THAT was truly lame, Saladtosser.
The Wizard of testicle touching expects more from his loyal ball-lickers
anything you say has no value, firstly you are no body, secondly you always contradict yourself, you made a thread before saying that nasser and jay were the shittiest bbs ever (physique wise) then you have recently made a thread saying that you are jay's ball licker and you mentioned in a recent thread also that nasser is from the best ever!!!..
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anything you say has no value, firstly you are no body, secondly you always contradict yourself, you made a thread before saying that nasser and jay were the shittiest bbs ever (physique wise) then you have recently made a thread saying that you are jay's ball licker and you mentioned in a recent thread also that nasser is from the best ever!!!..
Meltdown Ha Ha
got you in two posts, that has to be a record
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franco
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it doesn't matter how dorian compares to flex
it doesn't matter how ronnie compoares to flex.
its only matters how ronnie compares to dorian.
How did Ronnie compare to Dorian again? ;) eight loses ;D
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I don't get the Haney stuff.
Who was supposed to beat him? Gaspari? DeMay? Mike Christian? Gaspari beat him on condition, but not on size, shape, aesthetics....etc.
The only reason he had to retire was because he knew Dorian was about to beat him.
Haney retired because he had nothing left to prove. The only milestone left for him was to break Arnold's record. Once he did, he took his ball and went home.
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Haney retired because he had nothing left to prove. The only milestone left for him was to break Arnold's record. Once he did, he took his ball and went home.
Hit the nail on the head.
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In his day, Yates was the best. And there were quite a few days. He wiped the stage with Ronnie.
But if you compare Yates at his best to Ronnie at his best, Yates will come a close 2nd. By no means most overrated mr O ever...
Most overrated, the 2 biggest Weider propaganda machine products, Scott and Arnold. They didnt deserve all they got, even though they were great.
Most underrated, Haney. He dominated for close to a decade, and people dare say he wouldn't get anywhere in the Nats today...
Pretty close to my thoughts on it all, although I do think Arnold was great, certainly he out-conditions Sergio, who was a freak, even though his quads were quite bad. I guess that's what Dorian did with guys like Nasser and Dillet. But anyway, Ronnie had calves in half those old pics, Dorian only had arms in '93. So for me it's 93 Doian vs either 98, 99 Ronnie, which would be close, or 2003 Ronnie which would be hilarious because it's two different generations, but I think by 2003 judging standards Ronnie would take it by a mile. 93 judging standards Ronnie's gut and water levels might hurt him. But 2003 Ronnie had lines in his ass bigger than Dorian's whole body, a back you could fit Dorian into about 4 times, and arms, delt, chest, quads all making Dorian look like a beginner. Dillet had these things too, but didn;t have Ronnie's insane back, lumbar region and glutes, which judges look at straight away, stupid though it may seem.
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Look at the smooth fucking pencil neck on the right. And he believes he could've beaten anyone back then. LOL
Poor Paul Dillet always got the placings he deserved. He looked good in the gym, but a total disaster on stage. So much for the gift of genetics.
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How did Ronnie compare to Dorian again? ;) eight loses ;D
Did they ever have any call outs where they were compared to each other in all those years? Ronnie didn't specifically lose to Dorian. Ronnie lost to MANY, but if Ronnie were to stand next to Dorian in some of those years, it's quite possible he would have beaten Dorian on specific bodyparts/mandatory poses?
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Did they ever have any call outs where they were compared to each other in all those years? Ronnie didn't specifically lose to Dorian. Ronnie lost to MANY, but if Ronnie were to stand next to Dorian in some of those years, it's quite possible he would have beaten Dorian on specific bodyparts/mandatory poses?
He was compared on a couple of occasions never came close and yes Ronnie did lose to Dorian specifically
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How did Ronnie compare to Dorian again? ;) eight loses ;D
ronnie lost 8 times to charles clairmonte too.
your point? ::)
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Dorian Yates. Hands down!
take a close look at this post. its full of facts.
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ronnie lost 8 times to charles clairmonte too.
your point? ::)
My point is he had many chances to make headway and he failed
Dorian in his first and only chance against Haney beat him in the muscularity round and would have beaten him in 1993 if Haney competed
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take a close look at this post. its full of shit.
I agree ;)
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But 2003 Ronnie had lines in his ass bigger than Dorian's whole body, a back you could fit Dorian into about 4 times, and arms, delt, chest, quads all making Dorian look like a beginner. Dillet had these things too, but didn;t have Ronnie's insane back, lumbar region and glutes, which judges look at straight away, stupid though it may seem.
gayest , dumbest thing you ever typed !
a back you could fit Dorian into about 4 times HAHAHAHAHAHAHA no Coleman nutt-huggers live in a magical world
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Did they ever have any call outs where they were compared to each other in all those years? Ronnie didn't specifically lose to Dorian. Ronnie lost to MANY, but if Ronnie were to stand next to Dorian in some of those years, it's quite possible he would have beaten Dorian on specific bodyparts/mandatory poses?
they stood on stage in 1996, and well, even a smaller, less condtioned Ronnie (as compared to his olympia wins) STILL had a wider back, smaller waist, better taper etc etc.
even back then, it was game over in many shots: and that was back when ronnie was crappy, losing to everyone:
by 99 the gap between dorian and ronnie would have been so wide it would have been laughable:
ronnie was that much better..
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they stood on stage in 1996, and well, even a smaller, less condtioned Ronnie (as compared to his olympia wins) STILL had a wider back, smaller waist, better taper etc etc.
even back then, it was game over in many shots: and that was back when ronnie was crappy, losing to everyone:
by 99 the gap would have been so wide it would have been laughable:
A wider back my ass ::) you keep typing the same old bullshit that you think wins contests . wider back , smaller waist , better taper and worse balance & proportion , worse density & dryness , he's incomplete and can't pose for shit
Ronnie 1999 would look soft next to an in shape Dorian
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This placed NINTH place against a Dorian with a torn bicep , tricep and quad and you think any year after would be able to touch an uninjured Dorian? ha think again kid
there is a very good reason Ronnie concedes he's not good enough to beat Dorian
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flowerboy always melts down when real life refutes his bullshit:
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there is a very good reason Ronnie concedes he's not good enough to beat Dorian
he never said that.
he said dorian would win had dorian competed in 98
why? politics.
plain and simple.
everyone knows the politics of dorian's reign.
he shows up looking fat and drunk and the judges didn't give a shit: ::)
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flowerboy always melts down when real life refutes his bullshit:
hahahahahaha you post the same pic four times meltdown ;)
someone is getting sensitive ;D
lol 9th place ;D
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he never said that.
he said dorian would win had dorian competed in 98
why? politics.
plain and simple.
everyone knows the politics of dorian's reign.
he shows up looking fat and drunk and the judges didn't give a shit: ::)
Uh oh Mr Sensitive is lying again because Dorian is better than his hero , please show us all where Ronnie said Dorian would beat him because of politics , we'll be wait too ;D
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its common knowledge that ronnie was referring to the political nature of the IFBB at the time.
you are the only one that doesn't believe this.
everyone always tells you what ronnie was referring to (its obvious) but you don't accept it because you have an agenda.. ::)
you honestly think yates would have won in 98 based on his physique? LOL: ::)
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its common knowledge that ronnie was referring to the political nature of the IFBB at the time.
you are the only one that doesn't believe this.
everyone always tells you what ronnie was referring to (its obvious) but you don't accept it because you have an agenda.. ::)
you honestly think yates would have won in 98? LOL: ::)
No it's not , it's common knowledge to who? fan-boys who can't admit ther fact they're own hero doesn't even agree with them?
' everyone ' is pissed off Coleman nut-huggers angry that I own them
you wished Ronnie said Dorian would only beat him due to politics but as usual you can't back up a single claim , keep crying bitch I own you ;)
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you do realize that ronnie has also stated at other times that he would easily beat dorian.
neo has the quote and reference.
you can't win at the quote games can you?
you have to pick and choose,
when everyone else uses real life to decide:
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you do realize that ronnie has also stated at other times that he would easily beat dorian.
neo has the quote and reference.
you can't win at the quote games can you?
you have to pick and choose,
when everyone else uses real life to decide:
LIE #2 he never once said he would beat him he in fact admits he couldn't beat them in their time ;)
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one of ronnies worst poses imo. makes him look narrow and shows off his ugly alien abs as the arm postioning frames them.
dorian far better structurally with tight, defined sharp abs in the same pose
you do realize that ronnie has also stated at other times that he would easily beat dorian.
neo has the quote and reference.
you can't win at the quote games can you?
you have to pick and choose,
when everyone else uses real life to decide:
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Franco Columbo 1981 = joke
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Franco Columbo 1981 = joke
Certainly, he was least deserving. Terrible. Just terrible.
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one of ronnies worst poses imo. makes him look narrow and shows off his ugly alien abs as the arm postioning frames them.
dorian far better structurally with tight, defined sharp abs in the same pose
Hulkster thinks because he has better tie-ins he's much better in that pose , it shows how little he knows but then again he's trying to claim Dorian is the most overrated of all-time
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i dont think ronnie has good tie ins either, the most muscular pose highlights this.
Hulkster thinks because he has better tie-ins he's much better in that pose , it shows how little he knows but then again he's trying to claim Dorian is the most overrated of all-time
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Certainly, he was least deserving. Terrible. Just terrible.
Yes but he can still blow up a hot water bottle even old.....but terrible Mr O
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Look at Dorian's condition here! He's like a ROCK. No one had or has condition and size like this. Anyone else also notice how this is a very high quality picture and it really shows. So many of the pictures from the early to mid 90s are very poor quality
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Look at Dorian's condition here! He's like a ROCK. No one had or has condition and size like this. Anyone else also notice how this is a very high quality picture and it really shows. So many of the pictures from the early to mid 90s are very poor quality
because the pic was oversharpened from flexonline.
dont forget that you idiots are always claiming the ronnie 2003 shots from flexonline are..
so its all fair game..
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No one had or has condition and size like this
wrong:
and ronnie had way more size to boot: :P
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because the pic was oversharpened from flexonline.
dont forget that you idiots are always claiming the ronnie 2003 shots from flexonline are..
so its all fair game..
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NO , no wrong as usual resident moron , NONE of us claimed all 2003 shots from flexonline are that's your third outright lie today , no one ever claimed they were until Kevin Horton the guy who did said it was
and you continue to post them that front lat spread ring a bell?
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wrong:
and ronnie had way more size to boot: :P
more size and no even close in terms of density & dryness especially not 2003
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no one ever claimed they were until Kevin Horton the guy who did said it was
he had to say something when faced with this:
had to save dorian somehow.. ::)
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he had to say something when faced with this:
had to save dorian somehow.. ::)
See above ;D see fail as usual
Ronnie 2003 was awesome but he would looks six weeks out next to Yates
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why? politics.
plain and simple.
So you're saying Ronnie won 2001 and 2002 due to politics?
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So you're saying Ronnie won 2001 and 2002 due to politics?
no , in fact he went as far as to say Ronnie dominated in 2001 , despite losing the entire prejudging and in 2002 he lost both the posing rounds
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no , in fact he went as far as to say Ronnie dominated in 2001 , despite losing the entire prejudging and in 2002 he lost both the posing rounds
Yes, that's a bit of Team Nasser logic - cry foul when they don't like the results (like Ronnie losing in the 2002 SOS), but say all is fair and square when they do.
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Yes, that's a bit of Team Nasser logic - cry foul when they don't like the results (like Ronnie losing in the 2002 SOS), but say all is fair and square when they do.
Yes weak logic at the best , Hulkster saying Dorian lost in 94 and saying Ronnie dominated in 2001 :-\
the lengths this kid goes to is sad
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Yes weak logic at the best , Hulkster saying Dorian lost in 94 and saying Ronnie dominated in 2001 :-\
the lengths this kid goes to is sad
Hey ND what in you opinion was Ronnie's best year? The dude was incredible but never beat Dorian.
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Hey ND what in you opinion was Ronnie's best year? The dude was incredible but never beat Dorian.
I think as far as the Olympia goes 1998 because his conditioning was perfect , I think he looks better fuller like in 99 but his conditioning was off not as much as 2000 but it was , I think his best overall was 2001 ASC I think he looked unbelievable just amazing , and 2003 he was amazing but not his best
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I think as far as the Olympia goes 1998 because his conditioning was perfect , I think he looks better fuller like in 99 but his conditioning was off not as much as 2000 but it was , I think his best overall was 2001 ASC I think he looked unbelievable just amazing , and 2003 he was amazing but not his best
I must agree with ND on this... 2001 ASC was the best overall Showing we have ever seen from Ronnie...
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I must agree with ND on this... 2001 ASC was the best overall Showing we have ever seen from Ronnie...
but his gut was much bigger at the 2001 AC than in 99.
as you can see, he looked better in 99 with 10 pounds more muscle, and less of a gut:
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but his gut was much bigger at the 2001 AC than in 99.
as you can see, he looked better in 99 with 10 pounds more muscle, and less of a gut:
Hmm...his gut does look a bit bigger there...though I remember seeing other shots from 01 ASC that were unreal...we need more pics for reference.
M!
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Hmm...his gut does look a bit bigger there...though I remember seeing other shots from 01 ASC that were unreal...we need more pics for reference.
M!
all the pics and videos show the same thing: ronnie was better in 99:
http://www.truveo.com/Ronnie-Coleman-1999-Mr-Olympia-Part-Two/id/1160132027
enjoy the vids
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most overrated Mr O
easily Dorian
true winners:
1992 kevin
1993 Flex (best ever Flex)
1994 shawn
1995 Nasser
1996 nasser
1997 nasser
6 gifts for yates
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most overrated Mr O
easily Dorian
true winners:
1992 kevin
1993 Flex (best ever Flex)
1994 shawn
1995 Nasser
1996 nasser
1997 nasser
6 gifts for yates
Sheriff has been influencing you to much ;)
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most overrated Mr O
easily Dorian
true winners:
1992 kevin
1993 Flex (best ever Flex)
1994 shawn
1995 Nasser
1996 nasser
1997 nasser
6 gifts for yates
Stick to sniffing Nasser's soiled manties, cause you obviously don't know shit about bodybuilding
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Stick to sniffing Nasser's soiled manties, cause you obviously don't know shit about bodybuilding
LMAO :D
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Stick to sniffing Nasser's soiled manties, cause you obviously don't know shit about bodybuilding
you too kiwi dont know a shit about bb, you once said that fux was a mr. olympia material and that ronnie at his best couldnt have beaten jay this year ::) these 2 opinions only are enough to know that you know about bb as i know about ballet!!
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you too kiwi dont know a shit about bb, you once said that fux was a mr. olympia material and that ronnie at his best couldnt have beaten jay this year ::) these 2 opinions only are enough to know that you know about bb as i know about ballet!!
Hahahaha you should be one to talk with your whole "Nasser is God's gift to humanity" stance ;D
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Hahahaha you should be one to talk with your whole "Nasser is God's gift to humanity" stance ;D
i never ever said nasser was perfect as a bb!!.. sure his back was a clear weakness.. but yes of course he is a gift from GOD to all humanity ;D
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but his gut was much bigger at the 2001 AC than in 99.
as you can see, he looked better in 99 with 10 pounds more muscle, and less of a gut:
yet not one single credible source says 1999 is his best , you can never once back up your stupid claims all you can do is post pictures and say ' see ' ::)
Joe Weider - IFBB Co-Founder
"Many experts, including reigning Mr.Olympia, Jay Cutler, believe that at his best Ronnie has the greatest physique of all-time. When looking at pictures of Ronnie from the 1998 Mr.Olympia, I find it hard to argue with that."
Where's 1999? ;)
Raymond Cassar - Muscletime Editor and Photographer
"There is no one alive that can beat Ronnie Coleman when he is at his best - No One! (and his best for me was when he won the 2001 Arnold Classic)"
Where's 1999? ;)
Team Flex - http://www.flexonline.com/training/49
"We've said before that the 245 pounds or so physique with which [Ronnie Coleman] won the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic is the best ever - unbeatable."
Where's 1999?
Flex Magazine March 2009
Tales from Columbus
2001 (2): Is Chris Cormier unlucky? Are Bob Cicherillo's threads so loud that he's being sponsored by a megaphone company? At the 2001 Arnold Classic, for the only time in its history, the reigning Mr. Olympia entered the contest. Not only that, but said Mr. Olympia, Ronnie Coleman, was in the best shape of his career, before or since. Now that is bad luck.
Where's 1999?
Flex Magazine March 2008
2001 Then-reigning Mr. Olympia Ronnie Coleman, in the shape of his life at 245 pounds, took this one, with Cormier gaining the second of his six consecutive runner-up positions.
Where's 1999? ;)
Q ] There are those who feel you were at your best when you competed lighter, which for you was in the low 270's, and those who say you were best in the 290's. Was there a particular look you presented that you preferred over the others?
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Number one. That one was incredible to me. It (Ronnie's first Olympia win in 1998) always will be and nothing will ever take the place of that one. Everything was just spot on for that show.
Where's 1999? ;)
Flex Magazine August 2003
Jim Schmatltz on Ronnie chances of winning six Olympias in a row
if he repeats his 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic form, he'll experience the joy of six.
Where's 1999? ;)
Shawn Perine Ironage Dec 11, 2004
As much as I love Haney and my IA champs, I think Ronnie circa '98 or at the 2001 Arnold is pretty much untouchable. Except by Dorian Yates 6 weeks out from the '93 O as photographed by our own KMH. Both men, on those specific occasions carried so much dry muscle mass in good proportion and with good lines that it's almost unfair to compare them to others.
Where's 1999? ;)
While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.
Where's 1999? ;)
Peter McGough Flex Magazine August 2005
Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage (there was a contender for best-ever that I saw offstage: those crazy photos of sock-footed Dorian Yates taken seven weeks before the 1993 Mr. Olympia) was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 244 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable and would make any criticisms as redundant as a chocolate squat rack.
Where's 1999? ;)
Stick 1999 up your ass kid no feels 1999 is his best except you and a couple of other guys who don't know much about bodybuilding . His conditioning in 99 can not touch 2001 the ' extra 10 pounds ' isn't quality dense muscle , 2001 is the zenith of his conditioning not only do people feel it's his best showing a lot of them believe it's anyone's best showing ! when you can do what I just did and back up your claim then we'll take you seriously until shut the fuck up about 1999 ;)
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you too kiwi dont know a shit about bb, you once said that fux was a mr. olympia material and that ronnie at his best couldnt have beaten jay this year ::) these 2 opinions only are enough to know that you know about bb as i know about ballet!!
Fux could have won the Olympia absolutely
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Fux could have won the Olympia absolutely
no wonder to hear this from you but isnt it better to ask "the judges" first ;D
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yet not one single credible source says 1999 is his best , you can never once back up your stupid claims all you can do is post pictures and say ' see '
actually, the pics and videos support the claim better than any misinformed human opinion..
thats what you fail to understand.
people remember ronnie's AC win because it was a huge deal for a Mr. O to enter, and he won in great shape.
the impact was also intensified because he was facing a bunch of lower teir pros.
thats why his condition stands out in everyone's minds so much.
but a quick glance at reality reveals he was better at other contests.
and the video tape confirms this.
no retarded claims from McGough that are so easily refuted by real life will change this.. ::)
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actually, the pics and videos support the claim better than any misinformed human opinion..
thats what you fail to understand.
people remember ronnie's AC win because it was a huge deal for a Mr. O to enter, and he won in great shape.
the impact was also intensified because he was facing a bunch of lower teir pros.
thats why his condition stands out in everyone's minds so much.
but a quick glance at reality reveals he was better at other contests.
and the video tape confirms this.
no retarded claims from McGough that are so easily refuted by real life will change this.. ::)
Thanks for admitting you can't do it ;)
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My vote: Lee haney.
you sir, are a moron....and you have to be out of your mind.....Mr. Lee Haney is not only one of the finest Mr. O's to win a Sandow.....but as a person, he is unmatched......what he has done for the youth down in Georgia is first rate! The man was the original back king.....along with Samir.
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dickerson, arnold, columbo
wow......you must be young???? these guys were all fine olympia winners.....check dickerson out in 80......Arnie in the early 70s......franco was awesome in 76......what a foolish statement!
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agreed
agreed!! Haney was the man!
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Fux could have won the Olympia absolutely
no......but shawn ray should have won it at least twice.....maybe more.
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My vote: Lee haney.
BS >:(
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No mention of Frank Zane?
Maybe not the most overrated, but he capitalized at the right moment. Arnold and Lou retired, Nubret and Oliva hated Weider, and even Franco was out doing strongman and got injured.
What more could you ask for?
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Zane was I said it months ago!
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Most over rated - Dorian Yates.
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Listen people. When you say overrated this means that these guys get praise they really don't deserve. Dickerson and Zane don't really get mentioned.
So my pick would be Jay
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Listen people. When you say overrated this means that these guys get praise they really don't deserve. Dickerson and Zane don't really get mentioned.
So my pick would be Jay
Exactly, the fridge is the most overrated bodybuilder in history.
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Exactly, the fridge is the most overrated bodybuilder in history.
Which fridge? Cutler or Yates?
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Which fridge? Cutler or Yates?
lol
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No way, Haney is the last Mr. O to actually have shape and small waist while being a mass monster in his time. I'd say Dorian.
agreed!
yates then cutler as most overrated
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Cutler has looked like Mr. O once. 09. Looked like shit in 08,07, and even 06, Ronnie just looked worse.
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Any Mr.o under 200lbs!
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Franco, Dorian, and Cutler. Anyone not agree with those?
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Franco, and Cutler. Anyone not agree with those?
Fixed.
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Samir was a cool guy but its hard to believe he once had that title!
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dorian was underrated! The guy could win the o with 1 arm, that shows how far behind the others were...
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End of thread.
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