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Title: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: musclecenter on January 19, 2010, 04:20:45 AM
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/latest-news/1962-dorian-yates-to-be-soon-married.html (http://www.musculardevelopment.com/latest-news/1962-dorian-yates-to-be-soon-married.html)

Here's a quote from the man himself:

I will marry my fiancé Glauce Ferreira. Glauce is from Brazil and won the IFBB South American Bodyfitness event; she was also the IFBB World Bodyfitness Champion 2007. We met at the Arnold Classic in 2008 and have been inseparable ever since. Obviously it was her beauty that initially caught my attention, but I was really captivated once I found out what a wonderful person she is on the inside as well. Wish us well!







Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Parker on January 19, 2010, 04:22:25 AM
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/latest-news/1962-dorian-yates-to-be-soon-married.html (http://www.musculardevelopment.com/latest-news/1962-dorian-yates-to-be-soon-married.html)

Here's a quote from the man himself:

I will marry my fiancé Glauce Ferreira. Glauce is from Brazil and won the IFBB South American Bodyfitness event; she was also the IFBB World Bodyfitness Champion 2007. We met at the Arnold Classic in 2008 and have been inseparable ever since. Obviously it was her beauty that initially caught my attention, but I was really captivated once I found out what a wonderful person she is on the inside as well. Wish us well!








Saw her before, and in a sense she kinda resembles his ex-wife...good for him. At least Dorian is better than Ronnie when it comes to picking women ;)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: jwb on January 19, 2010, 04:24:58 AM
the shadow has a good eye...
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: io856 on January 19, 2010, 04:27:13 AM
Saw her before, and in a sense she kinda resembles his ex-wife...good for him. At least Dorian is better than Ronnie when it comes to picking women ;)
yeah I was gonna say she looks a bit like his ex wife
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: MORTALCOIL on January 19, 2010, 04:27:31 AM
I don't know how he's doing in life but he looks much healthier and happier than 90% of retired bodybuilders. He doesn't cling on still being huge. Good for him.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Sharma on January 19, 2010, 04:28:40 AM
It won't last five years. Can't "fix" a marriage like an Olympia, or three ::)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: MORTALCOIL on January 19, 2010, 04:31:40 AM
It won't last five years. Can't "fix" a marriage like an Olympia, or three ::)

Bitterness embodied.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 19, 2010, 04:32:38 AM
Dorian is a lucky bastard, but he deserves it.  :)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Hulkotron on January 19, 2010, 04:42:35 AM
Her face looks cute in the top pic; the other two not so much.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Tapeworm on January 19, 2010, 04:57:52 AM
Her face looks cute in the top pic; the other two not so much.

Right on.  Nice looking woman in the first pic.  Dorian looks like a Sheffield Steelie, which I'm sure he'd take as a compliment.  Stay off the drugs, kids.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: garebear on January 19, 2010, 05:02:46 AM
It won't last five years. Can't "fix" a marriage like an Olympia, or three ::)
Can we stone her to death after the divorce, or is that just for rape victims?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 19, 2010, 05:39:15 AM
Nice looking broad. I think Yates is loaded too. From what I remember he drives an Aston Martin
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: tendonitis on January 19, 2010, 05:54:17 AM
Congrats to Dorian.   I'm sure ND will be invited to the wedding.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: dr.chimps on January 19, 2010, 06:14:44 AM
Bitterness embodied.
He doesn't seem to be able to control it, does he. And bobs is already way behind on the team's damage control. Nasser is just not a team player.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: MORTALCOIL on January 19, 2010, 06:23:31 AM
He doesn't seem to be able to control it, does he. And bobs is already way behind on the team's damage control. Nasser is just not a team player.

They got to the point that now they're calling out people like Groink, who despite his own BS, has never clamed to be a pro BBer. Nasser desperately needs someone to make him feel better about himself by belittling him. His team of shoeshiners is not enough. The guy will soon hit geriatric wards to challenge 80 year olds to posedowns so he can feel he's still on top.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Tigerman on January 19, 2010, 06:23:42 AM
Congrats to Dorian.   I'm sure ND will be invited to the wedding.

Yes, apparently he's been asked to provide the flowers  ;D
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: calfzilla on January 19, 2010, 06:25:48 AM
Good for him.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Wiggs on January 19, 2010, 06:26:20 AM
Are you guys fucking nuts? She aint anywhere near hot especially for a brazilian. His ex is better looking. Dorian could do much better.

Anyway, Ronnie's wife is better 8)



 ;D
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: m8 on January 19, 2010, 06:27:55 AM
She looks hot off-season. Dorian has great taste.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: spinnis on January 19, 2010, 06:29:07 AM
I have a feeling Dorian wont be told what to do by his wife 24/7 like Coleman is,
America is pussyfied England is not.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: njflex on January 19, 2010, 06:31:00 AM
I don't know how he's doing in life but he looks much healthier and happier than 90% of retired bodybuilders. He doesn't cling on still being huge. Good for him.
GOOD POINT,,for every titus or bad ray or wheeler story u have labrada,gaspari,haney,yates,demey ect all doing well still involved in bbing and living decent lives.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Wiggs on January 19, 2010, 06:31:00 AM
I have a feeling Dorian wont be told what to do by his wife 24/7 like Coleman is,
America is pussyfied England is not.

So you think Coleman is whipped? LMAO...Ronnie would drop her like 45lber. Please ::)
When did you move in with Ronnie?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: spinnis on January 19, 2010, 06:36:40 AM
So you think Coleman is whipped? LMAO...Ronnie would drop her like 45lber. Please ::)
When did you move in with Ronnie?

from different expo stories it seems like that yes.

she seems to be calling that shots in that relationship, kinda like your "wife" is calling the shots in yours.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: MORTALCOIL on January 19, 2010, 06:41:03 AM
from different expo stories it seems like that yes.

she seems to be calling that shots in that relationship, kinda like your "wife" is calling the shots in yours.

Says the expert.  ::)

Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: spinnis on January 19, 2010, 06:42:07 AM
Says the expert.  ::)



you don't have to be an expert when obvious slaps you in your face.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Wiggs on January 19, 2010, 06:44:12 AM
from different expo stories it seems like that yes.

she seems to be calling that shots in that relationship, kinda like your "wife" is calling the shots in yours.


LOL....good one kid. Tell me, how does she "seem" to be calling shots?


Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: spinnis on January 19, 2010, 06:46:01 AM

LOL....good one kid. Tell me, how does she "seem" to be calling shots?




There were a few people with some expo stories that posted them here, and because me memory sucks I cant remember exactly, I do however remember that coleman came across as pussywhipped.

which might be true, coleman comes across as a nice dude and a family guy, would probably do whatever his wife says sadly.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Wiggs on January 19, 2010, 06:47:17 AM
you don't have to be an expert when obvious slaps you in your face.

Mort, he's a young boy and has barely got his dick wet.  He's hasn't a clue what he's in for. 
Let him live his fanstasy ;D
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: MORTALCOIL on January 19, 2010, 06:47:30 AM
Not that I'm wishing this for you but you're typically the type who will get his heart stampeded on by a "she's not really beautiful but I happen to find her pretty" skank. Wouldn't surprise me. It's almost like passing judgement on a war veteran by telling him "I haven't been to war but if I had I'm sure I would'nt have got injured like you idiot". Nice demeanor.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Kwon on January 19, 2010, 06:49:48 AM
What's the story with Dorian and his exwife, why did they leave eachother?

Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Wiggs on January 19, 2010, 06:50:25 AM
There were a few people with some expo stories that posted them here, and because me memory sucks I cant remember exactly, I do however remember that coleman came across as pussywhipped.

which might be true, coleman comes across as a nice dude and a family guy, would probably do whatever his wife says sadly.

You mean the same Coleman that got a broad prego with trips behind Alti Batisa's back then dumped Alti and got married literally the next day, that Coleman?  Quite the family guy.  Don't let that shit fool you. Ronnie is a good ol country boy but far from dumb or a pushover.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: spinnis on January 19, 2010, 06:52:56 AM
Not that I'm wishing this for you but you're typically the type who will get his heart stampeded on by a "she's not really beautiful but I happen to find her pretty" skank. Wouldn't surprise me. It's almost like passing judgement on a war veteran by telling him "I haven't been to war but if I had I'm sure I would'nt have got injured like you idiot". Nice demeanor.

well oh behold that you're very very wrong, but thx for trying and THinking you have any clue who I have, many getbigger have tried and failed with that latley lol.

Debussy was the only one coming close.

your comparision is fucking Retarded.


Your retarded mind SOMEHOW sawa red line between me thinking you should LEAVE a slut that cheats on you while you're fighting a war, compared to me saying that Im better at war that a war veteran because I wouldnt get hurt ?!?!?!

typical ignorant fucking americans lol!
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Wiggs on January 19, 2010, 06:53:24 AM
Not that I'm wishing this for you but you're typically the type who will get his heart stampeded on by a "she's not really beautiful but I happen to find her pretty" skank. Wouldn't surprise me. It's almost like passing judgement on a war veteran by telling him "I haven't been to war but if I had I'm sure I would'nt have got injured like you idiot". Nice demeanor.

Swede would say something like that...That's why you have to take anything he says witha grain of salt...He's a 20 year old kid that keeps things in perspective.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: BayGBM on January 19, 2010, 06:54:23 AM
Lucky wench!  >:(

Schmoe hearts everywhere are broken.  :'(
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: spinnis on January 19, 2010, 06:56:10 AM
Swede would say something like that...That's why you have to take anything he says witha grain of salt...He's a 20 year old kid that keeps things in perspective.

I would say something bad to a war veteran?

you're fuckign retarded wiggs, and not only when it comes to being treated like a dog.

I like it when americans think they know what people would say, or hell, ever claim for sure they would.



I know that you would piss on the grave of other war veterans wiggs, I know that!! why? because I know that I do I do!

funny when people claim stuff huh?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: MORTALCOIL on January 19, 2010, 06:58:27 AM
I would say something bad to a war veteran?

you're fuckign retarded wiggs, and not only when it comes to being treated like a dog.

I like it when americans think they know what people would say, or hell, ever claim for sure they would.

Boy, you're the one who can't even read somebody else's post. Mark my words: "It's almost like saying...."Understand? Doesn't mean you would say it. It's an analogy. Grow up. You need to be called off when you pass judgements you're not entitled to because of your age and other factors.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: spinnis on January 19, 2010, 06:59:48 AM
Boy, you're the one who can't even read somebody else's post. Mark my words: "It's almost like saying...."Understand? Doesn't mean you would say it. It's an analogy. Grow up. You need to be called off when you pass judgements you're not entitled to because of your age and other factors.

"boy"

you look like a 18yr old in the photo you posted, how old are you exactly boy?

well, stop making retarded claims even though you out the word "almost" before, doesn't make yourself less dumb.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: MORTALCOIL on January 19, 2010, 07:01:30 AM
Well, I'm way older than you. That should be enough.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: spinnis on January 19, 2010, 07:02:00 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=314599.0;attach=355803;image)

smallest looking "man" ive ever seen thats for sure.

ive Never done personal attacks before, But I think its time to start

WOW ANGRY MEAN FACE ON A 4"11 MAN's body haha.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Wiggs on January 19, 2010, 07:02:09 AM
I would say something bad to a war veteran?

you're fuckign retarded wiggs, and not only when it comes to being treated like a dog.

I like it when americans think they know what people would say, or hell, ever claim for sure they would.

You are very predictable kid.  I could lead you carrot on a stick style and you wouldn't even know.  You're past behavior dictate what you do in the future... You seem to taking my past situation harder then I did since you keep bringing it up.  It's very easy to get in your head.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: MORTALCOIL on January 19, 2010, 07:02:43 AM
"boy"

you look like a 18yr old in the photo you posted, how old are you exactly boy?

well, stop making retarded claims even though you out the word "almost" before, doesn't make yourself less dumb.

I wish and will take it as a compliment.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Wiggs on January 19, 2010, 07:03:34 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=314599.0;attach=355803;image)

smallest looking "man" ive ever seen thats for sure.

ive Never done personal attacks before, But I think its time to start

WOW ANGRY MEAN FACE ON A 4"11 MAN's body haha.

Leave him alone you towering mountain of a man ::)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: spinnis on January 19, 2010, 07:03:43 AM
You are very predictable kid.  I could lead you carrot on a stick style and you wouldn't even know.  You're past behavior dictate what you do in the future... You seem to taking my past situation harder then I did since you keep bringing it up.  It's very easy to get in your head.

you're not "in my head wiggs" this thread did however remind me of you,

Hopefully your "kinds" dies out soon, and with that I didnt mean color, but people being Ok with being treated like dog CRAP by everyone,a nd still be "ok" with it.

and no, you couldn't. =)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Wiggs on January 19, 2010, 07:05:49 AM
you're not "in my head wiggs" this thread did however remind me of you,

and no, you couldn't. =)

Didn't say I was in your head.  Said it was very easy to get there and if I wanted to I could.  I wouldn't do it under "Wiggs". ;)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: MORTALCOIL on January 19, 2010, 07:08:24 AM
"boy"

you look like a 18yr old in the photo you posted, how old are you exactly boy?

well, stop making retarded claims even though you out the word "almost" before, doesn't make yourself less dumb.

Could you remind us how tall you are exactly, please?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: spinnis on January 19, 2010, 07:09:18 AM
Didn't say I was in your head.  Said it was very easy to get there and if I wanted to I could.  I wouldn't do it under "Wiggs". ;)

no one is "in my head" unless im posting in the same thread like they are, besides that, I couldn't care less about anything on here =)

or maby I should start stalking you until you dump your wife :D
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: spinnis on January 19, 2010, 07:10:37 AM
Could you remind us how tall you are exactly, please?

I am short, have I claimed anything else?

that doesnt change the fact that you claim to be a man with a 16 yr old body. Boy.

and judging by that photo, you might just have the shortest upper arms in the world lol.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: MORTALCOIL on January 19, 2010, 07:12:28 AM
I don't claim to be tall either (but certainly not 4,11 lol) but I'd say you're aging process might be a lil' altered. Might be the juice. Careful with that.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: spinnis on January 19, 2010, 07:15:34 AM
I don't claim to be tall either (but certainly not 4,11 lol) but I'd say you're aging process might be a lil' altered. Might be the juice. Careful with that.

you should stop claiming to know stuff about people, can get you in touble IRL.

If you do "irl" that is.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: mossel on January 19, 2010, 07:15:52 AM
It won't last five years. Can't "fix" a marriage like an Olympia, or three ::)

He could beat her with a stick (no thicker than his thumb ofcourse) and forbid her leaving the house...

oi! maybe Nasser can teach him how that works!!!
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Wiggs on January 19, 2010, 07:18:24 AM
no one is "in my head" unless im posting in the same thread like they are, besides that, I couldn't care less about anything on here =)

or maby I should start stalking you until you dump your wife :D

Get over yourself kid...Remember this is an internet board.  While this is your life, I have a real one. And in your real one, you're akin to a leech from mummy and daddy and the good ol' government.

From what I remember, you were the little terd asking "Wiggs why don't you talk to me?"

Get your last word in cause I gotta go...You're one of those little guys that always have to have the last word so get it in pepe...


Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: spinnis on January 19, 2010, 07:19:48 AM
Get over yourself kid...Remember this is an internet board.  While this is your life, I have a real one. And in your real one, you're akin to a leech from mummy and daddy and the good ol' government.

From what I remember, you were the little terd asking "Wiggs why don't you talk to me?"




I have a job now wiggy, And why bring my parents into it? I dont get anything from them, nor do I want to. (mentioned this 1000000times)

And yes, I used to like you, well I dont hate you now, only when thinking about one thing lol.

its always makes me angry to see a MAN getting played and treated like shit by a woman and accepting it, I hope that will deminish in the future of the human race.,
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Kwon on January 19, 2010, 07:20:20 AM
Great physique MortalCoil!

How's your trainin'
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Wiggs on January 19, 2010, 07:24:03 AM
I have a job now wiggy, And why bring my parents into it? I dont get anything from them, nor do I want to. (mentioned this 1000000times)

And yes, I used to like you, well I dont hate you now, only when thinking about one thing lol.

its always makes me angry to see a MAN getting played and treated like shit by a woman and accepting it, I hope that will deminish in the future of the human race.,

Without rehashing the other thread here...As you get older you'll see that things aren't as black and white (not talking about race) as they seem now.  There's a whole lotta grey and that's where most of us live....Ciao
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: spinnis on January 19, 2010, 07:25:22 AM
Without rehashing the other thread here...As you get older you'll see that things aren't as black and white (not talking about race) as they seem now.  There's a whole lotta grey and that's where most of us live....Ciao

I know, and I can understand that and I do.

However our lines are different, the end of the line for me (which I think should be the end of the line for everyone else also) is Cheating. Thats the dealbreaker. =)

I am huuuuuuuuuuuge believer in always keeping your word also etc, ALWAYS NO MATTER WHAT keeping your promises etc. The world would be a better place if people though like me in SOME aspects lol.

Breaking a promise can end a friendship for me, I dont want to be around false people.

Now you can imagine what I think about cheating lol.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: MORTALCOIL on January 19, 2010, 07:29:15 AM
Great physique MortalCoil!

How's your trainin'

Thanks.
Actually right now, I'm trying to get back on track after a long break, almost a year and a half. Right now, training 3 to 4 times a week, 6-8 rep range: back/tris, pecs/bis, legs/calves and if i can squeeze a 4th session, I do shoulders as they really suck. I'll do that for a couple of weeks then do some volume. My eating schedule is shit though:on those pics, I trained at 7am after having a semi-skimmed yoghurt, half a banana, few hazelnuts and 2 cups of coffee. Went for breakfast after. I hadn't had carbs  since 2pm day before. Pretty depleted but I'm not doing volume so I guess it doesn't have such an impact.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Kwon on January 19, 2010, 07:32:31 AM
Are you around 6' (183 cm) or so?

How long you been training?

What's your goal
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Wingnut32 on January 19, 2010, 07:35:54 AM
I am short, have I claimed anything else?

that doesnt change the fact that you claim to be a man with a 16 yr old body. Boy.

and judging by that photo, you might just have the shortest upper arms in the world lol.



 :o  Holy shit!  I think Swede's right!
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: MORTALCOIL on January 19, 2010, 07:37:06 AM
I'm much smaller than that, I'm 5,7. I'd like to get back around 80kg (I never weighted more than 83kg-180 pounds approx.) Really getting back my nutrition discipline would be great. I'd like to bring up my front upper body a lot. Pecs and shoulders suck, specially the anterior delt. My back and legs are better but I lost a lot of size on my legs, my back is still bigger than the rest. I'll try to takepics of back and legs and get ready to be thrashed on here, lol.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: MORTALCOIL on January 19, 2010, 07:39:33 AM


 :o  Holy shit!  I think Swede's right!

Look at the other pic. My upper arm is not that short, but Swede has a point. I've got terribly short biceps which can give this impression. I hate that insertion.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: MORTALCOIL on January 19, 2010, 07:49:46 AM
Are you around 6' (183 cm) or so?

How long you been training?

What's your goal

I started training about three years ago for about 15 months. Took me 6 months to gather the proper informations to start training with some efficiency. I dieted one first time and a bit too drastically. Then, wifey got pregnant and my training became really erratic for a lil' less than a year and a half. I've been bacvk to the gym since September. Even though I never worked out before, I had been involved in sports for a long from my childhood to age 20. Always kept myself kind of in shape.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Kwon on January 19, 2010, 07:50:24 AM
I'm much smaller than that, I'm 5,7. I'd like to get back around 80kg (I never weighted more than 83kg-180 pounds approx.) Really getting back my nutrition discipline would be great. I'd like to bring up my front upper body a lot. Pecs and shoulders suck, specially the anterior delt. My back and legs are better but I lost a lot of size on my legs, my back is still bigger than the rest. I'll try to takepics of back and legs and get ready to be thrashed on here, lol.

Have no despair MortalCoil!

This dude is around your height (5'8") and has quite a decent physique! He can also bang with the heavies and at one time, he fought the superheavy Mark Hunt!
(http://www.mmaspot.net/mmaspot/files/image/fighterprofiles/melvin.jpg)

His height and weight is quite similar.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melvin_Manhoef
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: musclecenter on January 19, 2010, 07:54:23 AM
I favour the videos of  Dorian Yates at 1991,1992 Mr.Olympia





Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: valhalla on January 19, 2010, 08:07:42 AM
I know, and I can understand that and I do.

However our lines are different, the end of the line for me (which I think should be the end of the line for everyone else also) is Cheating. Thats the dealbreaker. =)

I am huuuuuuuuuuuge believer in always keeping your word also etc, ALWAYS NO MATTER WHAT keeping your promises etc. The world would be a better place if people though like me in SOME aspects lol.

Breaking a promise can end a friendship for me, I dont want to be around false people.

Now you can imagine what I think about cheating lol.

Swede,you are in for a world of hurt and disappointment with this way of thinking.
Like Wiggs said, its not so black and white. If Wiggs wife was with another man and they are still together now, doesnt mean he is pussywhipped..it means he is secure in himself and they have strong love for each other.
Humans make mistakes!
You are gonna be let down by your siblings,wife,friends etc etc...thats life! Its how you deal with it that shows your mental strenght.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: spinnis on January 19, 2010, 08:09:47 AM
Swede,you are in for a world of hurt and disappointment with this way of thinking.
Like Wiggs said, its not so black and white. If Wiggs wife was with another man and they are still together now, doesnt mean he is pussywhipped..it means he is secure in himself and they have strong love for each other.
Humans make mistakes!
You are gonna be let down by your siblings,wife,friends etc etc...thats life! Its how you deal with it that shows your mental strenght.

being let down is one thing, ofc its bound to happen.

dont compare it so being cheated on.

But americans still get married after everything they see in the media and 99.98% of them complain their asses off afterwards, so I dont assume they will understand what Im trying to explain =)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: valhalla on January 19, 2010, 08:14:03 AM
being let down is one thing, ofc its bound to happen.

dont compare it so being cheated on.

But americans still get married after everything they see in the media and 99.98% of them complain their asses off afterwards, so I dont assume they will understand what Im trying to explain =)

If your girlfriend/wife cheated (hate that word) on you, would you still love her ??
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: MORTALCOIL on January 19, 2010, 08:14:55 AM
If your girlfriend/wife cheated (hate that word) on you, would you still love her ??

He'll beat her to death with a Ronnie Coleman DVD.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: valhalla on January 19, 2010, 08:15:42 AM
He'll beat her to death with a Ronnie Coleman DVD.

LOL.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: spinnis on January 19, 2010, 08:16:39 AM
If your girlfriend/wife cheated (hate that word) on you, would you still love her ??

it has happened, and ive never talked to her again after that day, a few years ago =)

she actually moved right afterwards which is good, because I can get so angry it just turns black and shit happends lol.

ofc no one believes me because ive told 100000 lies here on gb  ::)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: valhalla on January 19, 2010, 08:18:00 AM
it has happened, and ive never talked to her again after that day, a few years ago =)

You are a small person in more ways than one!
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: spinnis on January 19, 2010, 08:19:33 AM
You are a small person in more ways than one!

I have my values and you have yours =)

cheating it the end of the line, you dont cheat on a person you love, I dont give a flying FUCK about some retarded explination. you dont. its about as simple as that.

Maby I should convert into a muslim
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Meso_z on January 19, 2010, 08:23:59 AM
It won't last five years. Can't "fix" a marriage like an Olympia, or three ::)

hahaha fuck you nasser  ::)

(http://www.stalkerzone.dk/upload/nasserinhisnaturalelement.jpg)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: valhalla on January 19, 2010, 08:27:06 AM
I have my values and you have yours =)

cheating it the end of the line, you dont cheat on a person you love, I dont give a flying FUCK about some retarded explination. you dont. its about as simple as that.

Maby I should convert into a muslim

Good idea! They also base their "relationships" on fear,rules and regulations instead of love.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 19, 2010, 08:35:57 AM
Good idea! They also base their "relationships" on fear,rules and regulations instead of love.

Where's this "love" you speak of when you are at work, doing what you are supposed to, and your woman has some dudes cock down her throat?

Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: spinnis on January 19, 2010, 08:37:25 AM
Where's this "love" you speak of when you are at work, doing what you are supposed to, and your woman has some dudes cock down her throat?



"but she doesn't love him! she loves you!"
"and thats makes cheating ok"


 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 19, 2010, 08:41:11 AM
"but she doesn't love him! she loves you!"
"and thats makes cheating ok"


 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ??? ??? ???

fuck that noise...once a cheater, always a cheater
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: spinnis on January 19, 2010, 08:41:55 AM
fuck that noise...once a cheater, always a cheater

FINALLY someone with fucking reasoning.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 19, 2010, 08:52:41 AM
FINALLY someone with fucking reasoning.

It's called having some fucking self-respect.

I know it hurts to be cheated on, i've been there. But if you take that person back they KNOW you're a chump....it's a simple as that....they got one over on you and they know it.

I'm not saying it's easy to let someone go that you care about.....it sucks, but I'd rather be alone than with someone that cheated on me

She got away with it once....just a matter of time. She knows she'll just have to be "extra sorry" if she gets caught again, because she knows you don't have the balls to tell her to fuck off
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Meso_z on January 19, 2010, 08:56:31 AM
If your girlfriend/wife cheated (hate that word) on you, would you still love her ??

youre fucking kidding right?  ::)

gotta love the guys who become their wifes "puppy" in the sake of "love" while she opens her legs to another dude.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: spinnis on January 19, 2010, 08:57:02 AM
It's called having some fucking self-respect.

I know it hurts to be cheated on, i've been there. But if you take that person back they KNOW you're a chump....it's a simple as that....they got one over on you and they know it.

I'm not saying it's easy to let someone go that you care about.....it sucks, but I'd rather be alone than with someone that cheated on me

She got away with it once....just a matter of time. She knows she'll just have to be "extra sorry" if she gets caught again, because she knows you don't have the balls to tell her to fuck off

Exactly how I want EVERYONE to think, and I cant fucking believe some people doesn't think like that.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 19, 2010, 08:59:55 AM
Exactly how I want EVERYONE to think, and I cant fucking believe some people doesn't think like that.

Because they are afraid they can't get another chick like their GF.

Alpha males  don't have this problem....easy come, easy go
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: uberman09 on January 19, 2010, 09:10:11 AM
groink, i dont know the reason why you separated from your woman and kid, why at 40 y/o you feel the need to sound and act "younger" , must be the midlife crisis and the need to compensate for your failure to build a family and keep it on track. I doubt the wife and kid are the only responsible for the outcome...

"swede" is a 20 y/o immature kid who never been in a relationship with a woman have no job no education and leech mommy or/and is on welfare, thinks he knows everything bout life cause he lifts weights and got his miserable peewee sucked by some insecure teen girl with a low self esteem some months ago.

Wiggs got cheated on but stayed with the woman.


One failed, the second one has no clue what life is about -but will eventually find out the hard way- and the last one got hurt but managed/decided to keep it on track.



Kids, the lesson to be learned here is: dont be another groink, swede, or wiggs.


Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: spinnis on January 19, 2010, 09:11:19 AM
oh brother, here comes the most pathetic one of them all lol!
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 19, 2010, 09:22:44 AM
groink, i dont know the reason why you separated from your woman and kid, why at 40 y/o you feel the need to sound and act "younger" , must be the midlife crisis and the need to compensate for your failure to build a family and keep it on track.

"swede" is a 20 y/o immature kid who never been in a relationship with a woman have no job no education and leech mommy or/and is on welfare.

Wiggs got cheated on but stayed with the woman.


One failed, the second one has no clue what life is about and the last one got hurt but managed/decided to keep it on track.



Kids, the lesson to be learnt here is: dont be another groink, swede, or wiggs.




Exactly.  as far as my kid....I moved to AZ and bought a house 3 blocks away from her.

My Ex and i have a good relationship, she opened presents at my house on Christmas. we just weren't meant to be together and we know it, but we both try our best to be good parents to our daughter, it takes precedence over eveything

 So please stop trying to paint me with this "midlife crisis, overgrown adolescent....hanging on to his youth" brush. You know nothing about me.

I'm a single guy in his 40's that is lucky enough to still look damn good, and yes...i use that to my advantage and have my fun....so would anybody here.

Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: spinnis on January 19, 2010, 09:27:52 AM
I'm a single guy in his 40's that is lucky enough to still look damn good, and yes...i use that to my advantage and have my fun....so would anybody here.



keep in mind uberman is just a hurt soul that someone has owned before, it might be me because he has been stalking be for years,
so this is his new account,

No photos ofc,
No knowledge in training ofc
Doesnt like BB's
Only here to "hate"
Doesn't back up anything

etc the list goes on and on, the people that actually feel affected by the little pathetics kids "attacks" should slap themself,
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: njflex on January 19, 2010, 09:37:56 AM
Exactly.  as far as my kid....I moved to AZ and bought a house 3 blocks away from her.

My Ex and i have a good relationship, she opened presents at my house on Christmas. we just weren't meant to be together and we know it, but we both try our best to be good parents to our daughter, it takes precedence over eveything

 So please stop trying to paint me with this "midlife crisis, overgrown adolescent....hanging on to his youth" brush. You know nothing about me.

I'm a single guy in his 40's that is lucky enough to still look damn good, and yes...i use that to my advantage and have my fun....so would anybody here.



cool bro,,,
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: uberman09 on January 19, 2010, 09:40:21 AM
keep in mind uberman is just a hurt soul that someone has owned before, it might be me because he has been stalking be for years,
so this is his new account,

No photos ofc,
No knowledge in training ofc
Doesnt like BB's
Only here to "hate"
Doesn't back up anything

etc the list goes on and on, the people that actually feel affected by the little pathetics kids "attacks" should slap themself,

haha quiet halfwit, you re getting hysterical again just because of one of my post lol, man shouldnt I be paying a rent for my residency in your mind?

groink, cool to hear your ex didnt prevent you from seeing your child, it would have made things a lot worse. And it usually happens in 80% of the cases.
Is she going to replace/complement you with a stepfather ?

Also you fit just right in a growing community of men who left their family after having a child, there are millions of em everywhere in occident. Statistically they re also the ones wo are more prone to rebuild a family or settle with a new female partner sooner compared to women who usually stay single longer , most of the time because they have to care for the kid while the father "rebuilds" his life and relationships.

And there are bald men well in their 50s who do the same as you,, who discover internet, consume short term relationships like material goods, it's a massive phenomenon in our modern occidental societies, you dont need to feel ashamed.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: spinnis on January 19, 2010, 09:45:12 AM
in my mind?

Im not the one posting a respone to every single thread Im in, notice how I am the one responding to You,

So Im deeeep in your mind not the other way around lol.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Sharma on January 19, 2010, 11:08:52 AM
It's called having some fucking self-respect.

I know it hurts to be cheated on, i've been there. But if you take that person back they KNOW you're a chump....it's a simple as that....they got one over on you and they know it.

I'm not saying it's easy to let someone go that you care about.....it sucks, but I'd rather be alone than with someone that cheated on me

She got away with it once....just a matter of time. She knows she'll just have to be "extra sorry" if she gets caught again, because she knows you don't have the balls to tell her to fuck off


Great post here. I could not agree more if I hear this over a thousand lifetimes.

Although I am critical of the Western values. I do feel it is very difficult for western males. The majority of western males anyway.
It seems the policy is largely in the hands of gays and women now and being a real man is frown upon.

Western women have all these programme like "sex and the city" that encourage them to be promiscuous and basically lampoon men. All the time the woman of the West are offered drink and drugs and as the female lacks judgement and reason they are soon led astray by others of their ilk and base males. You simply cannot trust a drunk woman.

Then, the final insult: these woman are sexually suggestive, show all their flesh and then when miss x go back to the house of mr y in the early morning, suddenly she complain when her virtue - that SHE surrendered - was taken and the man is in trouble.

They behave like a whore but seem to want the redemption in the morning. The man can never win in these rules as the game is rigged against him.


This is why I truly believe the man should be in charge and the woman virtuous. Look all around in nature and the female have the inborn instinct for the secondary role. It's unnatural to promote her to a role she cannot fulfil.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Board_SHERIF on January 19, 2010, 11:13:45 AM
good upgrade for my mate Dorian
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: dr.chimps on January 19, 2010, 11:44:40 AM
This is why I truly believe the man should be in charge and the woman virtuous. Look all around in nature and the female have the inborn instinct for the secondary role. It's unnatural to promote her to a role she cannot fulfil.
Hmm. Keeping women subservient has done wonders for the Muslim world. You let me know if any Muslim country gets out of the toilet.  ;)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: kiwiol on January 19, 2010, 11:46:09 AM

Great post here. I could not agree more if I hear this over a thousand lifetimes.

Although I am critical of the Western values. I do feel it is very difficult for western males. The majority of western males anyway.
It seems the policy is largely in the hands of gays and women now and being a real man is frown upon.

Western women have all these programme like "sex and the city" that encourage them to be promiscuous and basically lampoon men. All the time the woman of the West are offered drink and drugs and as the female lacks judgement and reason they are soon led astray by others of their ilk and base males. You simply cannot trust a drunk woman.

Then, the final insult: these woman are sexually suggestive, show all their flesh and then when miss x go back to the house of mr y in the early morning, suddenly she complain when her virtue - that SHE surrendered - was taken and the man is in trouble.

They behave like a whore but seem to want the redemption in the morning. The man can never win in these rules as the game is rigged against him.


This is why I truly believe the man should be in charge and the woman virtuous. Look all around in nature and the female have the inborn instinct for the secondary role. It's unnatural to promote her to a role she cannot fulfil.

Great post, Sharma
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: che on January 19, 2010, 11:46:20 AM
nice

(http://www.galferreira.net/fotos/730080520.jpg)
(http://www.galferreira.net/fotos/940149197.jpg)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: bradistani on January 19, 2010, 11:47:34 AM
great looking lass. i wonder how old she is? yates in his 40?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=315558.0;attach=355809)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: honest on January 19, 2010, 06:01:15 PM

Great post here. I could not agree more if I hear this over a thousand lifetimes.

Although I am critical of the Western values. I do feel it is very difficult for western males. The majority of western males anyway.
It seems the policy is largely in the hands of gays and women now and being a real man is frown upon.

Western women have all these programme like "sex and the city" that encourage them to be promiscuous and basically lampoon men. All the time the woman of the West are offered drink and drugs and as the female lacks judgement and reason they are soon led astray by others of their ilk and base males. You simply cannot trust a drunk woman.

Then, the final insult: these woman are sexually suggestive, show all their flesh and then when miss x go back to the house of mr y in the early morning, suddenly she complain when her virtue - that SHE surrendered - was taken and the man is in trouble.

They behave like a whore but seem to want the redemption in the morning. The man can never win in these rules as the game is rigged against him.


This is why I truly believe the man should be in charge and the woman virtuous. Look all around in nature and the female have the inborn instinct for the secondary role. It's unnatural to promote her to a role she cannot fulfil.

Totally agree. Western Values are diminishing.   
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Hulkster on January 19, 2010, 06:07:08 PM
Dorian is getting married?

has anyone broke the news to ND yet?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: WillGrant on January 19, 2010, 06:16:58 PM
Congrats to the big guy and his new found love  :)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Earl1972 on January 19, 2010, 07:52:52 PM
bodybuilders always get the babes 8)

E
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: johnny1 on January 19, 2010, 09:09:44 PM
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/latest-news/1962-dorian-yates-to-be-soon-married.html (http://www.musculardevelopment.com/latest-news/1962-dorian-yates-to-be-soon-married.html)

Here's a quote from the man himself:

I will marry my fiancé Glauce Ferreira. Glauce is from Brazil and won the IFBB South American Bodyfitness event; she was also the IFBB World Bodyfitness Champion 2007. We met at the Arnold Classic in 2008 and have been inseparable ever since. Obviously it was her beauty that initially caught my attention, but I was really captivated once I found out what a wonderful person she is on the inside as well. Wish us well!








All the best to the Man. 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Desolate on January 19, 2010, 09:43:28 PM
Almost looks like the kidnapping of a girl who desperately needs a green card. :P
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 19, 2010, 09:49:22 PM
I like his Coat
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Desolate on January 19, 2010, 10:15:08 PM
I just want to know what happened to his marriage to Debbie? He always used to praise her and his son.

Every interview I saw, Dorian would always say she believed in him, helped him, agreed with him turning down the WBF even though they were broke at the time. Without fail, he would say that he wouldn't have succeeded in bodybuilding without her.

Then I bought a mag off the newsstand for the first time in a long while, and the gossip page showed him making out with another chick.

Granted, I didn't always keep up with the bodybuilding gossip, but I was still shocked. :o
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: MP on January 19, 2010, 10:23:01 PM
I just want to know what happened to his marriage to Debbie? He always used to praise her and his son.

Every interview I saw, Dorian would always say she believed in him, helped him, agreed with him turning down the WBF even though they were broke at the time. Without fail, he would say that he wouldn't have succeeded in bodybuilding without her.

Then I bought a mag off the newsstand for the first time in a long while, and the gossip page showed him making out with another chick.

Granted, I didn't always keep up with the bodybuilding gossip, but I was still shocked. :o

x2
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: dyslexic on January 19, 2010, 10:40:00 PM
Sorry, but it won't last long.


She's too young, he's too fucked up. Not a match made in heaven.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: io856 on January 19, 2010, 10:52:05 PM
I just want to know what happened to his marriage to Debbie? He always used to praise her and his son.

Every interview I saw, Dorian would always say she believed in him, helped him, agreed with him turning down the WBF even though they were broke at the time. Without fail, he would say that he wouldn't have succeeded in bodybuilding without her.

Then I bought a mag off the newsstand for the first time in a long while, and the gossip page showed him making out with another chick.

Granted, I didn't always keep up with the bodybuilding gossip, but I was still shocked. :o
maybe it was HER!
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Desolate on January 19, 2010, 11:12:56 PM
Absolutely. It could've been. I don't know. I'm just curious about what happened.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: dustin on January 20, 2010, 01:03:24 AM

Great post here. I could not agree more if I hear this over a thousand lifetimes.

Although I am critical of the Western values. I do feel it is very difficult for western males. The majority of western males anyway.
It seems the policy is largely in the hands of gays and women now and being a real man is frown upon.

Western women have all these programme like "sex and the city" that encourage them to be promiscuous and basically lampoon men. All the time the woman of the West are offered drink and drugs and as the female lacks judgement and reason they are soon led astray by others of their ilk and base males. You simply cannot trust a drunk woman.

Then, the final insult: these woman are sexually suggestive, show all their flesh and then when miss x go back to the house of mr y in the early morning, suddenly she complain when her virtue - that SHE surrendered - was taken and the man is in trouble.

They behave like a whore but seem to want the redemption in the morning. The man can never win in these rules as the game is rigged against him.


This is why I truly believe the man should be in charge and the woman virtuous. Look all around in nature and the female have the inborn instinct for the secondary role. It's unnatural to promote her to a role she cannot fulfil.

AMEN!!!

And this is why I'm getting married..... to an ASIAN woman!!! North American women are dirty, self righteous whores that'll take a man for all he's worth. Fucking Oprah and Western Society fucked it up for virtually every real man in North America.

My advice to all the single Getbig homies out there when it comes to North American women just remember one thing - fuck... and chuck!! Toss that bitch to the side before she either: claims she was raped, starts nesting at your pad, plays head games (not the ones with your cock), goes after your money and material possessions or whatever else these sadistic Rosie O'Donnell behemoths do to men nowadays. These whores can't be trusted!!!
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: gordiano on January 20, 2010, 01:46:29 AM
It won't last five years. Can't "fix" a marriage like an Olympia, or three ::)

It was allah's will.....



Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: io856 on January 20, 2010, 03:17:42 AM
AMEN!!!

And this is why I'm getting married..... to an ASIAN woman!!! North American women are dirty, self righteous whores that'll take a man for all he's worth. Fucking Oprah and Western Society fucked it up for virtually every real man in North America.

My advice to all the single Getbig homies out there when it comes to North American women just remember one thing - fuck... and chuck!! Toss that bitch to the side before she either: claims she was raped, starts nesting at your pad, plays head games (not the ones with your cock), goes after your money and material possessions or whatever else these sadistic Rosie O'Donnell behemoths do to men nowadays. These whores can't be trusted!!!
...but they have such nice tits and asses!  :-\
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: uberman09 on January 20, 2010, 06:36:36 AM
Some guys on here like sharma must be pretty boring individuals and have boring sex with their puppet of a woman. Fearing to loosen their grip just because they re insecure, this kind of relationship usually leads to a state of psychic death for both partners. There's a midle ground between being an intelectualy and emotionally limited "macho man" repressing insecurities and a submisive girly man manipulated by his dependency to his partner.
I bet he stick to only one or two sex positions he enjoys and that his "wife" must have been faking orgasms -if she's allowed to show off her emotions, which might no be the case with a control freak like him- since the begining, not even knowing what they are suposed to feel like. What a life. But this kind of relationship is terribly widespread and common. Until the woman finds out what she's been missing for years with a guy that only cared about himself.

I guess sharma only do the same stuff over and over with his poor "wife" and that she doesnt even has the right to suggest/change anything or it would destroy the poor man's fragile ego and certitudes about his own performance in all aspects of his life. Basically, he's unable to evolve and prevent people from his close entourage to evolve just because he's scared of changes. It's also a paranoid trait, to be certain that any kind of change= the end of his supremacy, and that any kind of change in his everyday life means that he's in danger of losing everything, especially his virility. These kind of behaviors typically reinforce themselves over time and become almost impossible to counter.

Couples are about complentarity and reciprocity, without denying the very particular roles and fonctions of each other depending of his gender. But total domination of only one of the partner doesnt go anywhere. As usual, it's all about transparency about each other skills and how he/she contributes to the survival of the couple or family, it's about balance and about communication.
But unhappy, submissive people will always find a way to bite their self proclamed "master" back one day and always find out why it was that important for him - or her- to keep his-or her- iron grip. Cause yeah, there are also cases of women being as coercive as men. Especially in our modern societies where women are given more rights and the man is more and more neutered. Does it mean he has to stay in a full macho man mode? no. He has to adapt, cause society is changing. Lot of men do change, some others cant, most of the time because of their education. They ll eventually disapear, will be replaced.

There's a massive re-definition of the place and role of Men - and fathers- in our modern occidental societies which is the result of the redefining of the role and place of women in the past decades. This redefining of men's role and place isnt completely negative for men, as there is no point making em become just another "woman", there's no point having two women as mothers and eradicating the man, father place and role.

Most psychologists, psychanalysts and sociologists think most men will adapt and become better men and father without endangering their virility which in itself is only a social construct, which varies from an era to another.

Some people like sharma obviously confine themselves into a reassuring but obsolete role of the old "macho man" figure, too bad it's just archaic, but maybe that's all they know and can refer to, facing changes that they cant understand due to their limited intelectual and emotional intelligence.

Changes if dealt with intelligence can be very positive for anyone, but people who tend to pathologically fear changes are just insecure people who see every opportunity to open themselves as a threat to their existence. Most of the time people are insecure about their OWN shortcomings they use a lot of energy and ressources to keep hidden, and make their loved ones lifes existences miserable.


Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: mossel on January 20, 2010, 07:43:57 AM

Great post here. I could not agree more if I hear this over a thousand lifetimes.

Although I am critical of the Western values. I do feel it is very difficult for western males. The majority of western males anyway.
It seems the policy is largely in the hands of gays and women now and being a real man is frown upon.

Western women have all these programme like "sex and the city" that encourage them to be promiscuous and basically lampoon men. All the time the woman of the West are offered drink and drugs and as the female lacks judgement and reason they are soon led astray by others of their ilk and base males. You simply cannot trust a drunk woman.

Then, the final insult: these woman are sexually suggestive, show all their flesh and then when miss x go back to the house of mr y in the early morning, suddenly she complain when her virtue - that SHE surrendered - was taken and the man is in trouble.

They behave like a whore but seem to want the redemption in the morning. The man can never win in these rules as the game is rigged against him.


This is why I truly believe the man should be in charge and the woman virtuous. Look all around in nature and the female have the inborn instinct for the secondary role. It's unnatural to promote her to a role she cannot fulfil.


Ha ha... this post proves that sharma has a tiny dick!!!!...
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: spinnis on January 20, 2010, 07:53:12 AM
Some guys on here like sharma must be pretty boring individuals and have boring sex with their puppet of a woman. Fearing to loosen their grip just because they re insecure, this kind of relationship usually leads to a state of psychic death for both partners. There's a midle ground between being an intelectualy and emotionally limited "macho man" repressing insecurities and a submisive girly man manipulated by his dependency to his partner.
I bet he stick to only one or two sex positions he enjoys and that his "wife" must have been faking orgasms -if she's allowed to show off her emotions, which might no be the case with a control freak like him- since the begining, not even knowing what they are suposed to feel like. What a life. But this kind of relationship is terribly widespread and common. Until the woman finds out what she's been missing for years with a guy that only cared about himself.

I guess sharma only do the same stuff over and over with his poor "wife" and that she doesnt even has the right to suggest/change anything or it would destroy the poor man's fragile ego and certitudes about his own performance in all aspects of his life. Basically, he's unable to evolve and prevent people from his close entourage to evolve just because he's scared of changes. It's also a paranoid trait, to be certain that any kind of change= the end of his supremacy, and that any kind of change in his everyday life means that he's in danger of losing everything, especially his virility. These kind of behaviors typically reinforce themselves over time and become almost impossible to counter.

Couples are about complentarity and reciprocity, without denying the very particular roles and fonctions of each other depending of his gender. But total domination of only one of the partner doesnt go anywhere. As usual, it's all about transparency about each other skills and how he/she contributes to the survival of the couple or family, it's about balance and about communication.
But unhappy, submissive people will always find a way to bite their self proclamed "master" back one day and always find out why it was that important for him - or her- to keep his-or her- iron grip. Cause yeah, there are also cases of women being as coercive as men. Especially in our modern societies where women are given more rights and the man is more and more neutered. Does it mean he has to stay in a full macho man mode? no. He has to adapt, cause society is changing. Lot of men do change, some others cant, most of the time because of their education. They ll eventually disapear, will be replaced.

There's a massive re-definition of the place and role of Men - and fathers- in our modern occidental societies which is the result of the redefining of the role and place of women in the past decades. This redefining of men's role and place isnt completely negative for men, as there is no point making em become just another "woman", there's no point having two women as mothers and eradicating the man, father place and role.

Most psychologists, psychanalysts and sociologists think most men will adapt and become better men and father without endangering their virility which in itself is only a social construct, which varies from an era to another.

Some people like sharma obviously confine themselves into a reassuring but obsolete role of the old "macho man" figure, too bad it's just archaic, but maybe that's all they know and can refer to, facing changes that they cant understand due to their limited intelectual and emotional intelligence.

Changes if dealt with intelligence can be very positive for anyone, but people who tend to pathologically fear changes are just insecure people who see every opportunity to open themselves as a threat to their existence. Most of the time people are insecure about their OWN shortcomings they use a lot of energy and ressources to keep hidden, and make their loved ones lifes existences miserable.




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Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: _bruce_ on January 20, 2010, 08:11:01 AM
Some guys on here like sharma must be pretty boring individuals and have boring sex with their puppet of a woman. Fearing to loosen their grip just because they re insecure, this kind of relationship usually leads to a state of psychic death for both partners. There's a midle ground between being an intelectualy and emotionally limited "macho man" repressing insecurities and a submisive girly man manipulated by his dependency to his partner.
I bet he stick to only one or two sex positions he enjoys and that his "wife" must have been faking orgasms -if she's allowed to show off her emotions, which might no be the case with a control freak like him- since the begining, not even knowing what they are suposed to feel like. What a life. But this kind of relationship is terribly widespread and common. Until the woman finds out what she's been missing for years with a guy that only cared about himself.

I guess sharma only do the same stuff over and over with his poor "wife" and that she doesnt even has the right to suggest/change anything or it would destroy the poor man's fragile ego and certitudes about his own performance in all aspects of his life. Basically, he's unable to evolve and prevent people from his close entourage to evolve just because he's scared of changes. It's also a paranoid trait, to be certain that any kind of change= the end of his supremacy, and that any kind of change in his everyday life means that he's in danger of losing everything, especially his virility. These kind of behaviors typically reinforce themselves over time and become almost impossible to counter.

Couples are about complentarity and reciprocity, without denying the very particular roles and fonctions of each other depending of his gender. But total domination of only one of the partner doesnt go anywhere. As usual, it's all about transparency about each other skills and how he/she contributes to the survival of the couple or family, it's about balance and about communication.
But unhappy, submissive people will always find a way to bite their self proclamed "master" back one day and always find out why it was that important for him - or her- to keep his-or her- iron grip. Cause yeah, there are also cases of women being as coercive as men. Especially in our modern societies where women are given more rights and the man is more and more neutered. Does it mean he has to stay in a full macho man mode? no. He has to adapt, cause society is changing. Lot of men do change, some others cant, most of the time because of their education. They ll eventually disapear, will be replaced.

There's a massive re-definition of the place and role of Men - and fathers- in our modern occidental societies which is the result of the redefining of the role and place of women in the past decades. This redefining of men's role and place isnt completely negative for men, as there is no point making em become just another "woman", there's no point having two women as mothers and eradicating the man, father place and role.

Most psychologists, psychanalysts and sociologists think most men will adapt and become better men and father without endangering their virility which in itself is only a social construct, which varies from an era to another.

Some people like sharma obviously confine themselves into a reassuring but obsolete role of the old "macho man" figure, too bad it's just archaic, but maybe that's all they know and can refer to, facing changes that they cant understand due to their limited intelectual and emotional intelligence.

Changes if dealt with intelligence can be very positive for anyone, but people who tend to pathologically fear changes are just insecure people who see every opportunity to open themselves as a threat to their existence. Most of the time people are insecure about their OWN shortcomings they use a lot of energy and ressources to keep hidden, and make their loved ones lifes existences miserable.




Virgin meltdown...  :D
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: MORTALCOIL on January 20, 2010, 08:15:34 AM
Some guys on here like sharma must be pretty boring individuals and have boring sex with their puppet of a woman. Fearing to loosen their grip just because they re insecure, this kind of relationship usually leads to a state of psychic death for both partners. There's a midle ground between being an intelectualy and emotionally limited "macho man" repressing insecurities and a submisive girly man manipulated by his dependency to his partner.
I bet he stick to only one or two sex positions he enjoys and that his "wife" must have been faking orgasms -if she's allowed to show off her emotions, which might no be the case with a control freak like him- since the begining, not even knowing what they are suposed to feel like. What a life. But this kind of relationship is terribly widespread and common. Until the woman finds out what she's been missing for years with a guy that only cared about himself.

I guess sharma only do the same stuff over and over with his poor "wife" and that she doesnt even has the right to suggest/change anything or it would destroy the poor man's fragile ego and certitudes about his own performance in all aspects of his life. Basically, he's unable to evolve and prevent people from his close entourage to evolve just because he's scared of changes. It's also a paranoid trait, to be certain that any kind of change= the end of his supremacy, and that any kind of change in his everyday life means that he's in danger of losing everything, especially his virility. These kind of behaviors typically reinforce themselves over time and become almost impossible to counter.

Couples are about complentarity and reciprocity, without denying the very particular roles and fonctions of each other depending of his gender. But total domination of only one of the partner doesnt go anywhere. As usual, it's all about transparency about each other skills and how he/she contributes to the survival of the couple or family, it's about balance and about communication.
But unhappy, submissive people will always find a way to bite their self proclamed "master" back one day and always find out why it was that important for him - or her- to keep his-or her- iron grip. Cause yeah, there are also cases of women being as coercive as men. Especially in our modern societies where women are given more rights and the man is more and more neutered. Does it mean he has to stay in a full macho man mode? no. He has to adapt, cause society is changing. Lot of men do change, some others cant, most of the time because of their education. They ll eventually disapear, will be replaced.

There's a massive re-definition of the place and role of Men - and fathers- in our modern occidental societies which is the result of the redefining of the role and place of women in the past decades. This redefining of men's role and place isnt completely negative for men, as there is no point making em become just another "woman", there's no point having two women as mothers and eradicating the man, father place and role.

Most psychologists, psychanalysts and sociologists think most men will adapt and become better men and father without endangering their virility which in itself is only a social construct, which varies from an era to another.

Some people like sharma obviously confine themselves into a reassuring but obsolete role of the old "macho man" figure, too bad it's just archaic, but maybe that's all they know and can refer to, facing changes that they cant understand due to their limited intelectual and emotional intelligence.

Changes if dealt with intelligence can be very positive for anyone, but people who tend to pathologically fear changes are just insecure people who see every opportunity to open themselves as a threat to their existence. Most of the time people are insecure about their OWN shortcomings they use a lot of energy and ressources to keep hidden, and make their loved ones lifes existences miserable.




I doubt Sharma ever had sex with a woman. His 12 yeard old mentality, shown in every post, screams about the fact that he never ever seduced a woman in his life. The best he got was probably with a restrained goat. I wonder if he got helped by any Team Nasser members on this.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: musclecenter on January 20, 2010, 08:17:14 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Parker on January 20, 2010, 08:46:36 AM
AMEN!!!

And this is why I'm getting married..... to an ASIAN woman!!! North American women are dirty, self righteous whores that'll take a man for all he's worth. Fucking Oprah and Western Society fucked it up for virtually every real man in North America.

My advice to all the single Getbig homies out there when it comes to North American women just remember one thing - fuck... and chuck!! Toss that bitch to the side before she either: claims she was raped, starts nesting at your pad, plays head games (not the ones with your cock), goes after your money and material possessions or whatever else these sadistic Rosie O'Donnell behemoths do to men nowadays. These whores can't be trusted!!!
Ryan and I talked about this the other week. You are marrying a Asian woman because you have no balls. American women have castrated you. And to feel more like a "man" you go find a woman you can order around and run over. The issue lies not with Am. Women per se, but your inability to take charge, to whimper when a a woman says "boo!".

All women respect a strong man, just man the fuck up and admit your weaknesses and make them your strengths. Because if you have a son with this Asian lady, you want him to turn out like you?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: uberman09 on January 20, 2010, 08:54:54 AM
Ryan and I talked about this the other week. You are marrying a Asian woman because you have no balls. American women have castrated you. And to feel more like a "man" you go find a woman you can order around and run over. The issue lies not with Am. Women per se, but your inability to take charge, to whimper when a a woman says "boo!".

All women respect a strong man, just man the fuck up and admit your weaknesses and make them your strengths. Because if you have a son with this Asian lady, you want him to turn out like you?
exactly.

the "asian women are all submisive" cliche is also a myth, reality is most of em are FRIGID due to their cultural, religious educations and conditionnings.

I also know white men who only date exotic girls who speak a different language just because they find it easier to fool em about their own shortcomings that would quickly be revealed if they simply decided to date women of their kind. Needless to say these couples never last very long and most of the time the girls dump the guy once they get their visa too.

Men with no balls dont understand they could educate, teach their women and girlfriends - and later, daughters- how to become great confident, autonomous yet repsecting and sexually well adjusted grown up women. They re too self centered and dont even understand the wide array of possiblities they have in their hands if  only they had some balls and brains.  But how can you teach anything to anyone if you dont educate yourself first and spend most of your time caring about yourself only.
Nowadays people have no willpower to change themselves or their loved ones. Living in a highly individualistic and materialistic society they think they can consume relationships with other humans just like material goods. They forget to how  balance, rearrange what has to be fixed, they are prone to just quit and start "new" relationships over and over always reproducing the same behaviors.

Sexual and psychological fullfilments are essential to every human being, whatever their gender is. It's all about managing how to develop yourself and help your partner do the same without interfering too dangerously with each other well being. It requires brains , will power, courage, and work.

Easier said than done for most men who are so scared and too unsettled, dumb to understand what they could do in these changing times to make theirs and others lifes better.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Royal Lion on January 20, 2010, 11:25:12 AM
Not everyone can handle a confident, capable, secure, & smart woman.  Personally, I wouldn't want a woman whose self-value is so low that she has no substance and views her only role in life as a man's servant. 
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: dustin on January 20, 2010, 11:48:02 AM
Ryan and I talked about this the other week. You are marrying a Asian woman because you have no balls. American women have castrated you. And to feel more like a "man" you go find a woman you can order around and run over. The issue lies not with Am. Women per se, but your inability to take charge, to whimper when a a woman says "boo!".

All women respect a strong man, just man the fuck up and admit your weaknesses and make them your strengths. Because if you have a son with this Asian lady, you want him to turn out like you?

Bullshit. I hate to stereotype so strongly but North American women are whores. I'm too much of an elitist and my ego is too thick to be in a long term commitment with a whore that's gobble down dicks by the dozen and has had multiple "lovers" cum furiously in her STD riddled vagina. I am comfortable with my weakness and enjoy my untainted, virgin vagina thank you. I know my fiancé isn't running away anytime soon.

There are so many differences between all the Asian cultures that you can't think of it as just one flavor. What you're saying is absolutely true about Filipinas and Thai women. I'm Filipino so I know. While a filipina would be submissive and treat me like a king, I find them way too annoying. I haven't had to retreat to a socially and culturally brainwashed woman, even though Filipinas and Thais genuinely love tending to their mans' needs.

My woman is Cambodian and Chinese. Her parents escaped the brutal wrath of the Khmer Rouge and travelled from Southern Vietnam, through Cambodia and to a refuge camp in Thailand where my future wife was born. Shit like that builds character like no other experience can. 9 months pregnant and eating a butt of an AK-47 from a psychotic cadre for breakfast most mornings... ain't no way my mother-in-law was prepared to raise her daughters as dirty whores like that of North American women. Her daughters are respectful, intelligent and have become gorgeous successful business women with successful husbands and great marriages.


I'm sorry that your brutal jealousy has blinding you, my friend. My fiancé and her family have just purchased a gorgeous new home together and we have a great life. We're all making lots of money, the fiancé will be finished her BSN soon and we'll behaving an epic wedding next Summer. I've grown very close to her family and after her younger siblings move out I will be honored to take care of her amazing parents when they're too old to work. Feels good to live with a loving and culturally rich family versus fucking whores and wondering if my dick can still get hard after it starts festering with XXX STD. Oh yes, I'm missing out on so much. Please live it up for me. I'm bring tortured with my new mansion of a house, great job and beautiful extended family!
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Topskin69 on January 20, 2010, 01:01:42 PM
It won't last five years. Can't "fix" a marriage like an Olympia, or three ::)

Your hatred, and bitterness is reaching an absurd pitch. You are quickly leaving the realm of a gimmick, and are now a joke.  :-\
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 20, 2010, 01:24:05 PM
:)

Thanks for making this thread less metrosexual MC  :)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: valhalla on January 20, 2010, 01:38:06 PM
exactly.

the "asian women are all submisive" cliche is also a myth, reality is most of em are FRIGID due to their cultural, religious educations and conditionnings.

I also know white men who only date exotic girls who speak a different language just because they find it easier to fool em about their own shortcomings that would quickly be revealed if they simply decided to date women of their kind. Needless to say these couples never last very long and most of the time the girls dump the guy once they get their visa too.

Men with no balls dont understand they could educate, teach their women and girlfriends - and later, daughters- how to become great confident, autonomous yet repsecting and sexually well adjusted grown up women. They re too self centered and dont even understand the wide array of possiblities they have in their hands if  only they had some balls and brains.  But how can you teach anything to anyone if you dont educate yourself first and spend most of your time caring about yourself only.
Nowadays people have no willpower to change themselves or their loved ones. Living in a highly individualistic and materialistic society they think they can consume relationships with other humans just like material goods. They forget to how  balance, rearrange what has to be fixed, they are prone to just quit and start "new" relationships over and over always reproducing the same behaviors.

Sexual and psychological fullfilments are essential to every human being, whatever their gender is. It's all about managing how to develop yourself and help your partner do the same without interfering too dangerously with each other well being. It requires brains , will power, courage, and work.

Easier said than done for most men who are so scared and too unsettled, dumb to understand what they could do in these changing times to make theirs and others lifes better.

I totally agree..good post!
Swede is to young and stupid to understand this now.
Groink is a 40+ year old "man" that defines his manhood by "banging fine hoes" (cheap silicone skanks)
Sharma is a muslim.

I am afraid your post will go right over their heads.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Parker on January 20, 2010, 01:41:19 PM
Bullshit. I hate to stereotype so strongly but North American women are whores. I'm too much of an elitist and my ego is too thick to be in a long term commitment with a whore that's gobble down dicks by the dozen and has had multiple "lovers" cum furiously in her STD riddled vagina. I am comfortable with my weakness and enjoy my untainted, virgin vagina thank you. I know my fiancé isn't running away anytime soon.

There are so many differences between all the Asian cultures that you can't think of it as just one flavor. What you're saying is absolutely true about Filipinas and Thai women. I'm Filipino so I know. While a filipina would be submissive and treat me like a king, I find them way too annoying. I haven't had to retreat to a socially and culturally brainwashed woman, even though Filipinas and Thais genuinely love tending to their mans' needs.

My woman is Cambodian and Chinese. Her parents escaped the brutal wrath of the Khmer Rouge and travelled from Southern Vietnam, through Cambodia and to a refuge camp in Thailand where my future wife was born. Shit like that builds character like no other experience can. 9 months pregnant and eating a butt of an AK-47 from a psychotic cadre for breakfast most mornings... ain't no way my mother-in-law was prepared to raise her daughters as dirty whores like that of North American women. Her daughters are respectful, intelligent and have become gorgeous successful business women with successful husbands and great marriages.


I'm sorry that your brutal jealousy has blinding you, my friend. My fiancé and her family have just purchased a gorgeous new home together and we have a great life. We're all making lots of money, the fiancé will be finished her BSN soon and we'll behaving an epic wedding next Summer. I've grown very close to her family and after her younger siblings move out I will be honored to take care of her amazing parents when they're too old to work. Feels good to live with a loving and culturally rich family versus fucking whores and wondering if my dick can still get hard after it starts festering with XXX STD. Oh yes, I'm missing out on so much. Please live it up for me. I'm bring tortured with my new mansion of a house, great job and beautiful extended family!
You have to be being sarcastic. Dude all women have the capicity or the wherewithall to be "whores" and  you are planning to make your wife, your own personal one. And if she is fine, chances are some dude is gonna try and hit it as well. And no you are not comfortable in your weakness, and no you are not a elitist. An elitist would not admit "weakness", nor would he complain about North American  "whores" having gobbling dicks...A elistist would revel in that.

You are too worried about other men, and a woman having more partners than you. Ultimately you are worried that you cannot please a woman, or have been told that you cannot please them. This had lead to frustration for you. Let me tell you, once she finds a better deal--she going to leave you. Period.

Ever watch Eddie Murphy's "Raw"? Listen to the part where he is talking about getting a African wife.  
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: dustin on January 20, 2010, 01:56:01 PM
You have to be being sarcastic. Dude all women have the capicity or the wherewithall to be "whores" and  you are planning to make your wife, your own personal one. And if she is fine, chances are some dude is gonna try and hit it as well. And no you are not comfortable in your weakness, and no you are not a elitist. An elitist would not admit "weakness", nor would he complain about North American  "whores" having gobbling dicks...A elistist would revel in that.

You are too worried about other men, and a woman having more partners than you. Ultimately you are worried that you cannot please a woman, or have been told that you cannot please them. This had lead to frustration for you. Let me tell you, once she finds a better deal--she going to leave you. Period.

Ever watch Eddie Murphy's "Raw"? Listen to the part where he is talking about getting a African wife.  

Sure, you know us both so well. I don't want to turn a trashy whore into a first class wife. You can do that if you'd like. I'd prefer a woman who is a woman, not a whore. Whores are something else. Once a whore, always a whore. Call me stuck up, jealous, paranoid... I just don't want a disgusting whore. What's wrong with that?

You say I'm scared of women? That I'm a little man who cannot command authority? Command all the dirty whores you want, Parker. You go be a man. Go be a big, tough man and have fun with that. You know so much about Asian culture, don't you? Seems like you can have any woman you want. I guess I'll go watch my woman in case her eyes wander elsewhere...... because every single one of their old family friends have all been married their entire lives without cheating. Ha.... you're such a loser. We'll be together forever and you'll wake up to different whores when you get lucky enough to have sex. :-*
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Natural Man on January 20, 2010, 02:00:16 PM
I totally agree..good post!

I am afraid your post will go right over their heads.

it's not like i write this to make em change their lifes... "groink" is obviously haunted by a broken past that is sucking the lifeblood out of his present and future at 40 y/o -you dont attempt to build a family, live with someone and have a kid, ruin it all and just act like nothing happened- i doubt i could d much for him. My best advice would be to come back with his ex and aknowledge for his past breachings of trust. It would also mean she would have to change, and that they would both do it for their kid BEFORE themselves. I dont know maybe she s as materialistic, vain and self centered as him.

As for swede...well... he obviously lacks a father figure and the additional short man syndrom doesnt help.  He doesnt know where he comes from, where he is, and where he's heading.

Both need help from professionals to really improve their lifes.

My posts are more geared toward young people who still didnt ruin it all and might hesitate between difficult choices to make on a daily basis, i try to feed em with good food for their thoughts and tell em  not to listen to these self portrayed internet "models" like groink or swede who in fact are far from being near as "cool" as they pretend to be. Not everyone who is interested in lifting weights has to be a retard or a life failure, following the meathead/pathetic macho man attitude isnt obligatory even on getbig.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Natural Man on January 20, 2010, 02:06:51 PM
Sure, you know us both so well. I don't want to turn a trashy whore into a first class wife. You can do that if you'd like. I'd prefer a woman who is a woman, not a whore. Whores are something else. Once a whore, always a whore. Call me stuck up, jealous, paranoid... I just don't want a disgusting whore. What's wrong with that?

You say I'm scared of women? That I'm a little man who cannot command authority? Command all the dirty whores you want, Parker. You go be a man. Go be a big, tough man and have fun with that. You know so much about Asian culture, don't you? Seems like you can have any woman you want. I guess I'll go watch my woman in case her eyes wander elsewhere...... because every single one of their old family friends have all been married their entire lives without cheating. Ha.... you're such a loser. We'll be together forever and you'll wake up to different whores when you get lucky enough to have sex. :-*

It just seems you have no idea what you're talking about.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: spinnis on January 20, 2010, 02:07:38 PM
It just seems you have no idea what you're talking about.

kinda like everytime you post with this or your other account.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Parker on January 20, 2010, 02:25:12 PM
Sure, you know us both so well. I don't want to turn a trashy whore into a first class wife. You can do that if you'd like. I'd prefer a woman who is a woman, not a whore. Whores are something else. Once a whore, always a whore. Call me stuck up, jealous, paranoid... I just don't want a disgusting whore. What's wrong with that?

You say I'm scared of women? That I'm a little man who cannot command authority? Command all the dirty whores you want, Parker. You go be a man. Go be a big, tough man and have fun with that. You know so much about Asian culture, don't you? Seems like you can have any woman you want. I guess I'll go watch my woman in case her eyes wander elsewhere...... because every single one of their old family friends have all been married their entire lives without cheating. Ha.... you're such a loser. We'll be together forever and you'll wake up to different whores when you get lucky enough to have sex. :-*

You are assuming that every woman that you meet is a whore, what is your standard? One dude, two dudes, three, what is the number to you? What was your experience? You are not happy getting laid, or were you the one who didn't fulfill the woman? Typically men who want VIRGINS ONLY, don't want a woman who has espeereince, because he knows that he cannot or has a challenge in pleasing women, which leads to frustration.
It's funny how you don't want a "disgusting whore" yet you are planning to make this chick your own personal one. Don't you find that a bit odd?  
Aww, some chick did hurt your feelings.  Everybody know you can't turn a ho into a housewife, that's elementary! It's been siad that there are women you wed and the women you bed, the key for today's woman is to be the one that a man bed's and weds. And Who wants a chick who doesn't know what she is doing? And when she doesn't orgasm, whose fault is that? Its gona be yours. Sooner or later she will find out that there is a better way of doig things.

I never claimed to know everything, even a little of Asian culture, quite being so defensive of  your own insecurity. And just because her old family memebers have been married without cheating (how do you really know this were their throughout their whole marriage?), this is the 21st Century, you can't go by 20th or 19th century standards, nor can you go by other people's relationships. Both you and her must dictate what you want your  relationship to be. basically you just want some chick that has no experience and ignorant of your shortcomings, and assume that she will accept them or continue to do so. One cannot assume.

Your last two sentences speaks volumes. "We'll be together forever..." WTF type of fairytale bullshit on you on? Dude's who spew forth that mess, either are young, virgins, or pathetic small dicked lovers who can't please their women and believe in some Romance Novel fantasy that's written by fat middle aged women.

But you go on. While you are with her, I'll be with some curvy, big breasted, bubblebutt chick who knows how to cook, clean, and please her man...and balance her checkbook.    
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: dustin on January 20, 2010, 02:47:29 PM
You are assuming that every woman that you meet is a whore, what is your standard? One dude, two dudes, three, what is the number to you? What was your experience? You are not happy getting laid, or were you the one who didn't fulfill the woman? Typically men who want VIRGINS ONLY, don't want a woman who has espeereince, because he knows that he cannot or has a challenge in pleasing women, which leads to frustration.
It's funny how you don't want a "disgusting whore" yet you are planning to make this chick your own personal one. Don't you find that a bit odd?  
Aww, some chick did hurt your feelings.  Everybody know you can't turn a ho into a housewife, that's elementary! It's been siad that there are women you wed and the women you bed, the key for today's woman is to be the one that a man bed's and weds. And Who wants a chick who doesn't know what she is doing? And when she doesn't orgasm, whose fault is that? Its gona be yours. Sooner or later she will find out that there is a better way of doig things.

I never claimed to know everything, even a little of Asian culture, quite being so defensive of  your own insecurity. And just because her old family memebers have been married without cheating (how do you really know this were their throughout their whole marriage?), this is the 21st Century, you can't go by 20th or 19th century standards, nor can you go by other people's relationships. Both you and her must dictate what you want your  relationship to be. basically you just want some chick that has no experience and ignorant of your shortcomings, and assume that she will accept them or continue to do so. One cannot assume.

Your last two sentences speaks volumes. "We'll be together forever..." WTF type of fairytale bullshit on you on? Dude's who spew forth that mess, either are young, virgins, or pathetic small dicked lovers who can't please their women and believe in some Romance Novel fantasy that's written by fat middle aged women.

But you go on. While you are with her, I'll be with some curvy, big breasted, bubblebutt chick who knows how to cook, clean, and please her man...and balance her checkbook.    

You're a fucking idiot. I'm not insecure, you attacked me! You can't tell me to not be defensive when you tell me that I'm not a man, that my woman is going to become a whore and fuck something better when it crosses her path, etc, etc. You must be real fucking retarded, Parker.

I'll do you a favor and answer your questions though, I'm not scared of a woman who's had sex before. At first I used to not like the idea but I matured. It's a fact of life that not every woman is a virgin. But there's a huge difference between fucking a few people and fucking a TON of people. Women (or men) who fuck a lot of people are disgusting. If they can't respect themselves enough to at least try to fuck the same person a little longer then why would anyone want to engage in a long term commitment? This isn't me being hoky poky and dreaming of a fairy tale princess marriage, it's just common sense. If someone can't trust themselves with something so elementary, why should you trust putting your dick into their body, having a joint bank account and bringing them into the lives of your family and other loved ones?? Riddle me that, fuckwad.


P.S. There's nothing wrong with striving for a long lasting commitment. That's what marriage is, but you're too fucking stupid to understand that. I wouldn't get engaged unless I was after anything but that. I never planned on getting married until I met this woman - she is a WOMAN, not a whore. That's very rare nowadays. There are some great women out there but you won't be attracted to them or they'll have some other huge problems. I'm lucky to have found a great woman that I admire and cherish. I'm actually extremely lucky. Also, none of us have any emotional baggage. She is a strong woman who rejected tons of little boys, as well as some very handsome and successful men. Her parents are their friends don't do arranged marriages, but they'll typically suggest a strong suitor. She isn't naive, Parker. Just like you scrutinized, my standards are very high and as are hers. In the past I was TOO picky but I've matured and maybe you will too.


I'm not sad that I won't fuck other women. I'll fantasize about it because I'm not jaded or some sort of liar, but I don't see the need to bang a skanky whore outside of my relationship. I'm content with my sex life and yes, I have one. And a good sized dick in case you care to fantasize about that later as well. Is there anything else you need to get owned over? Or are you resting up to go chase some disease infested pussy tonight at a dive?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Natural Man on January 20, 2010, 03:08:02 PM
You're a fucking idiot. I'm not insecure, you attacked me! You can't tell me to not be defensive when you tell me that I'm not a man, that my woman is going to become a whore and fuck something better when it crosses her path, etc, etc. You must be real fucking retarded, Parker.

I'll do you a favor and answer your questions though, I'm not scared of a woman who's had sex before. At first I used to not like the idea but I matured. It's a fact of life that not every woman is a virgin. But there's a huge difference between fucking a few people and fucking a TON of people. Women (or men) who fuck a lot of people are disgusting. If they can't respect themselves enough to at least try to fuck the same person a little longer then why would anyone want to engage in a long term commitment? This isn't me being hoky poky and dreaming of a fairy tale princess marriage, it's just common sense. If someone can't trust themselves with something so elementary, why should you trust putting your dick into their body, having a joint bank account and bringing them into the lives of your family and other loved ones?? Riddle me that, fuckwad.


P.S. There's nothing wrong with striving for a long lasting commitment. That's what marriage is, but you're too fucking stupid to understand that. I wouldn't get engaged unless I was after anything but that. I never planned on getting married until I met this woman - she is a WOMAN, not a whore. That's very rare nowadays. There are some great women out there but you won't be attracted to them or they'll have some other huge problems. I'm lucky to have found a great woman that I admire and cherish. I'm actually extremely lucky. Also, none of us have any emotional baggage. She is a strong woman who rejected tons of little boys, as well as some very handsome and successful men. Her parents are their friends don't do arranged marriages, but they'll typically suggest a strong suitor. She isn't naive, Parker. Just like you scrutinized, my standards are very high and as are hers. In the past I was TOO picky but I've matured and maybe you will too.


I'm not sad that I won't fuck other women. I'll fantasize about it because I'm not jaded or some sort of liar, but I don't see the need to bang a skanky whore outside of my relationship. I'm content with my sex life and yes, I have one. And a good sized dick in case you care to fantasize about that later as well. Is there anything else you need to get owned over? Or are you resting up to go chase some disease infested pussy tonight at a dive?

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Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: honest on January 20, 2010, 03:10:12 PM
If Modern western ideology of marriage is so adaptable how come the divorce rates are so high, and whilst Sharmas point of view could be a little crude there is no doubt that western values as a whole are diminishing. I'm not a Muslim and i don't believe their faith should restrain women as much as they do but I'm talking radicals, but for anyone to think that western  men are so adaptable and their new role is basically accommodating the new modern day woman,is ridiculous especially when the divorce statistics say otherwise.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: dustin on January 20, 2010, 03:13:07 PM
If Modern western ideology of marriage is so adaptable how come the divorce rates are so high, and whilst Sharmas point of view could be a little crude there is no doubt that western values as a whole are diminishing. I'm not a Muslim and i don't believe their faith should restrain women as much as they do but I'm talking radicals, but for anyone to think that western  men are so adaptable and their new role is basically accommodating the new modern day woman,is ridiculous especially when the divorce statistics say otherwise.

Bingo. That's what I wanted to say, minus my meltdown. BOOOM!!!!! :o
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Natural Man on January 20, 2010, 03:18:16 PM
If Modern western ideology of marriage is so adaptable how come the divorce rates are so high, and whilst Sharmas point of view could be a little crude there is no doubt that western values as a whole are diminishing. I'm not a Muslim and i don't believe their faith should restrain women as much as they do but I'm talking radicals, but for anyone to think that western  men are so adaptable and their new role is basically accommodating the new modern day woman,is ridiculous especially when the divorce statistics say otherwise.
we re in a period of transition and changes, and if sociologists and psychanalysts and psychologists know that, they dont know when it will end and how, or if it will end at all; some think it's going to keep on going without no end in sight, participiating in a global deliquessence of values and occidental societies well being, eventually leading to a complete new definition of relationships between men, women, fathers, mothers, sons daughters. It's the next big trouble ahead for our occidental societies, and basically for all societies which will reach oru level of development. Basically scientists have all the empirical data and studies that prove that kids and men become more and more immature, feel more and more useless as women become predominent but that there might be an oportunity to change the way men and women interact with each others benefiting to both of em.

To be honest with you "honest", you should read some books that precisely adress exactly your question. Seems like new stuff to you but these phenomenons and their best answers have already been studied and you just have to read some good books on that matter.

Preferably before you engage yourself into a relationship that will lead to the conception of a new human being.

arthur janov  "biology of love"
helen fisher -anthropologist- "Why we love"
willy pasini  
boris cyrulnik - resiliency

everything related to psychogenealogy is also mindblowing.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Parker on January 20, 2010, 03:19:06 PM
You're a fucking idiot. I'm not insecure, you attacked me! You can't tell me to not be defensive when you tell me that I'm not a man, that my woman is going to become a whore and fuck something better when it crosses her path, etc, etc. You must be real fucking retarded, Parker.

I'll do you a favor and answer your questions though, I'm not scared of a woman who's had sex before. At first I used to not like the idea but I matured. It's a fact of life that not every woman is a virgin. But there's a huge difference between fucking a few people and fucking a TON of people. Women (or men) who fuck a lot of people are disgusting. If they can't respect themselves enough to at least try to fuck the same person a little longer then why would anyone want to engage in a long term commitment? This isn't me being hoky poky and dreaming of a fairy tale princess marriage, it's just common sense. If someone can't trust themselves with something so elementary, why should you trust putting your dick into their body, having a joint bank account and bringing them into the lives of your family and other loved ones?? Riddle me that, fuckwad.


P.S. There's nothing wrong with striving for a long lasting commitment. That's what marriage is, but you're too fucking stupid to understand that. I wouldn't get engaged unless I was after anything but that. I never planned on getting married until I met this woman - she is a WOMAN, not a whore. That's very rare nowadays. There are some great women out there but you won't be attracted to them or they'll have some other huge problems. I'm lucky to have found a great woman that I admire and cherish. I'm actually extremely lucky. Also, none of us have any emotional baggage. She is a strong woman who rejected tons of little boys, as well as some very handsome and successful men. Her parents are their friends don't do arranged marriages, but they'll typically suggest a strong suitor. She isn't naive, Parker. Just like you scrutinized, my standards are very high and as are hers. In the past I was TOO picky but I've matured and maybe you will too.


I'm not sad that I won't fuck other women. I'll fantasize about it because I'm not jaded or some sort of liar, but I don't see the need to bang a skanky whore outside of my relationship. I'm content with my sex life and yes, I have one. And a good sized dick in case you care to fantasize about that later as well. Is there anything else you need to get owned over? Or are you resting up to go chase some disease infested pussy tonight at a dive?

Damn, you got more issues than lil bit...You have some true anger, "whores" this, "skanks" that? What's the deal? You get all flustered and angered because you are insecured and I'm having you face it.    And no, your standards are not high. The only thing you list and harp about is her virginity. Why, and what makes her a WOMAN? Let me guess, she is a virtuous woman ::). After you deflowered her, will she not be your own personal "skank"? And let's take this further, suppose you get a divorce or die  in let's say 5 yrs. Would it be fair for the next man to declare her a whore or a skank because she had sex with you for 5 yrs?

But I know this, today's American woman cavalier attitude can be liken to them being a 2010 Mercedes Benz SL with 100,000 miles on the clock, yet they want to be thought of as a 2010 Mercedes Benz SL with a full warranty and no miles. Unfortunately they cannot have it that way, and some (many) do run into problems.

You in a sense have not matured, you have swayed or have gone from extremes, and it shows in your posts and wording. You have gone from the extreme of "whore" and "skank" to virgin. Maturation would tell you that there is a happy medium, moderation is the key---balance. Maturation would show you not to exhibit such anger towards women, but to accept that there are thing you can change and things you can't, and if you are getting laid by a pretty woman, all things are good. You are not trying to wife her. Nor who she was with before should concern you.  Now looking for a wife and a chick to hook up with are two diff things---Maturation should have taught you this as well. I stated what that was in the wed and bed in my post before.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: io856 on January 20, 2010, 03:24:57 PM
uberman09 has really impressed me with his posts in this thread!

Interracial relationships has often been shown in studies to be indicative of lower self esteem because you are not held to the same standards, expectations, culture etc etc

I often see the dweeby/nerdy looking/acting guys end up with Asian women
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Natural Man on January 20, 2010, 03:29:58 PM
uberman09 has really impressed me with his posts in this thread!

Interracial relationships has often been shown in studies to be indicative of lower self esteem because you are not held to the same standards, expectations, culture etc etc

I often see the dweeby/nerdy looking/acting guys end up with Asian women
am not here to impress am here to suggest you guys start hiting your fucking library shelves instead of vegetating in your ignorance. If nobody in your close entourage can answer your exsitencial questionings then fucking read some books it will save you years of useless nonsensical frustration and will improve greatly your self perception and the way you interract with a world you dont understand.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: DeltsaForce on January 20, 2010, 03:34:59 PM
why are you fucking losers posting such long paragraphs? get a life and stop writing such giant piles of waffle
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Parker on January 20, 2010, 03:41:54 PM
why are you fucking losers posting such long paragraphs? get a life and stop writing such giant piles of waffle
Dayum, I haven't had a waffle in a while...thanks for the idea! Blueberry waffles, egg whites, and turkey sausage for breakfast tomorrow.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: KevinP85 on January 20, 2010, 05:53:44 PM
Damn, you got more issues than lil bit...You have some true anger, "whores" this, "skanks" that? What's the deal? You get all flustered and angered because you are insecured and I'm having you face it.    And no, your standards are not high. The only thing you list and harp about is her virginity. Why, and what makes her a WOMAN? Let me guess, she is a virtuous woman ::). After you deflowered her, will she not be your own personal "skank"? And let's take this further, suppose you get a divorce or die  in let's say 5 yrs. Would it be fair for the next man to declare her a whore or a skank because she had sex with you for 5 yrs?

But I know this, today's American woman cavalier attitude can be liken to them being a 2010 Mercedes Benz SL with 100,000 miles on the clock, yet they want to be thought of as a 2010 Mercedes Benz SL with a full warranty and no miles. Unfortunately they cannot have it that way, and some (many) do run into problems.
You in a sense have not matured, you have swayed or have gone from extremes, and it shows in your posts and wording. You have gone from the extreme of "whore" and "skank" to virgin. Maturation would tell you that there is a happy medium, moderation is the key---balance. Maturation would show you not to exhibit such anger towards women, but to accept that there are thing you can change and things you can't, and if you are getting laid by a pretty woman, all things are good. You are not trying to wife her. Nor who she was with before should concern you.  Now looking for a wife and a chick to hook up with are two diff things---Maturation should have taught you this as well. I stated what that was in the wed and bed in my post before.






Hahahahaha, that was funny analogy.

I'm working on a 22 year old latina who happens to play a lot soccer and loves keeping herself in shape, my kind of girl 8) She whups my ass when it comes to abs and leg training, lol.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: honest on January 20, 2010, 05:56:05 PM
Ubber the trouble with you and a lot of other over academics is you read to many books, no offence intended, your opinion i value much the same as a politicians, you have a nice educated spin on everything you present, but the statistics of what your saying say otherwise.  No debate required.  :)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 20, 2010, 06:10:24 PM
I totally agree..good post!
Swede is to young and stupid to understand this now.
Groink is a 40+ year old "man" that defines his manhood by "banging fine hoes" (cheap silicone skanks)
Sharma is a muslim.

I am afraid your post will go right over their heads.

I hate fake titties

Parker summed it up..."There are women you wed and women you bed"  It's the guys with the wisdom to discern between the two pretty quickly, before emotions come into play, and ACCEPT it (it ain't easy)... that don't get fucked over.

Actually....they are fucking themselves over by trying to make a woman something she is not.

As far as I go....Yeah I'm single and doing my thing...but I would think anyone with a brain realizes I'm playing it up here for laughs, I'm not "banging bitches two at a time".

I date occasionally,it's nowhere near my no 1 priority, with adults of similar age, and yeah......sometimes we wind up in the sack as two consenting adults.....no one is being used or hurt.

If and when i find someone that strikes a chord in me...I'm done with it.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Parker on January 20, 2010, 06:27:37 PM
If Modern western ideology of marriage is so adaptable how come the divorce rates are so high, and whilst Sharmas point of view could be a little crude there is no doubt that western values as a whole are diminishing. I'm not a Muslim and i don't believe their faith should restrain women as much as they do but I'm talking radicals, but for anyone to think that western  men are so adaptable and their new role is basically accommodating the new modern day woman,is ridiculous especially when the divorce statistics say otherwise.
one of the main reasons why divorce is so high is because people think it is instantaneous, and women think about just getting married and not the marriage itself. Also many men today are nothing more man-child, helped by the the baby-boomer parenting.
Part of he reason. It's kinda easy to figure out. Dustin's got some other issues to work out.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 20, 2010, 06:38:03 PM
one of the main reasons why divorce is so high is because people think it is instantaneous, and women think about just getting married and not the marriage itself. Also many men today are nothing more man-child, helped by the the baby-boomer parenting.
Part of he reason. It's kinda easy to figure out. Dustin's got some other issues to work out.

Dustin seems a little idealistic and insecure when it comes to women. He's afraid of a woman that may be more sexually experienced than him or has a healthy sexual appetite...so he calls them "whores".

But good for him if he found someone that makes him happy. Can't knock the guy for that
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Natural Man on January 20, 2010, 06:49:01 PM


But good for him if he found someone that makes him happy. Can't knock the guy for that
as long as he makes her happy in return... reciprocity...


DEPENDENCY
Dependency is the seeking of identity, support, security, or
permission from outside the self. The dependency object
may be another person; a social unit such as an extended
family or a religious or fraternal order; an entity beyond
the five senses such as a spirit guardian; or even a belief
system in itself, for example, nonviolence, to which the dependent
is devoted and from which the dependent receives
nurture in return.
By definition, dependency is reciprocal. The dependent
seeks, expecting and receiving a dependency response: To
give is to receive and to receive is to give. It is also obligatory:
Dependents are expected to seek and receive return
support. Failure to participate in this circle of obligation
may result in a range of responses from verbal disapproval
to ostracism.
Dependency differs from the related process of interdependence
in which separate entities reciprocally seek identity,
support, security, or permission from one another.
In “dependency societies,” such as Japan, the fledgling
ego is taught to defer inside a vertical authority system.
The ideal of conformity is intended to strengthen the individual’s
sense of self-respect. In “independence societies,”
such as modern mainstream America, the fledgling ego is
expected to move out of obligatory relationships in a horizontal
authority system, rather than to defer. The ideal of
self-focus is intended to strengthen the individual’s sense
of self-respect.
Key characteristics of dependency are bonding, obligation,
reciprocity, trust, continuity, and involvement. Every
culture or subculture defines “normal” dependency on the
basis of its own value system.
Whereas Western thought minimizes continuity between
the living and ancestors, dependency cultures tend
to consider discontinuity as threatening.
Even though there are cultural variations, there seem
also to be certain universals in dependency. Key characteristics
fall into three clusters.
The first cluster may be viewed as negative dependency,
which hinders psychosexual development, crippling the
ability to handle a variety of life situations. The second cluster
can be considered positive, enhancing the maturing process
by aiding individuals and groups to function in ways
that support their sense of well being. The third cluster relates
to an absence or termination of dependency relationships,
which may also cripple development.
It is useful to divide dependency theory into three culturetime
phases: (1) preliterate, tribal, and folk (beginning
to present), (2) modern colonial (1500–1945), and (3) postcolonial
(1945 to present).
Preliterate, Tribal, and Folk Studies
Early ethnological studies tended to view dependency as
structural networking based on tribal, village, folk, and extended
family patterns that were seen, on the whole, as positive.
They were thought to reflect security and other needs
in a life setting severely limited by a prescientific worldview
and technical development.
In such a society individuals define themselves or are
defined as they relate to others, rather than by how they fulfill
or express themselves. Success in these interactions is
considered the most important measure of mature selfexpression.
Modern Colonial
The interruption of traditional dependency patterns has
been a major and often underestimated effect of colonial
contact since the fifteenth century. As Mannoni has shown,
a major factor in the conquest of native peoples was their
own tendency to transfer dependency expectations from familiar
authority figures to European authority substitutes.
Aggressive European cultures exploited native dependency
while at the same time exporting values of independence,
individualism, and progress, which did as much to
weaken native resistance as the horses of Cortez or the
firearms of the British. With its emphasis on competition,
the Protestant work ethic dealt a heavy psychological blow
to traditional notions of reciprocity, obligation, and trust.
Under long-term colonization, the native personality is
thought to have been severely stressed by the need to reconcile
warring dependency-belief systems.
During this same period in the Western world, dependency
appears to have been systematically downgraded to neurotic
behavior. Sigmund Freud theorized that the helplessness
of the infant was the source of lifelong dependency bonds
against which the maturing ego must implacably struggle.
DEPENDENCY 271
Furthermore, Freud held that the psychological structures
and functions of societies paralleled those of individuals.
In modern thought—strongly influenced by Freudian
theory—individuals must struggle to break free from dependence
on groups as well as from a variety of others, beginning
with Mother. What had earlier been seen as reciprocity
came to be regarded as helplessness.
Postcolonial
In the Western world since about 1945, the belief has begun
to emerge that undue stress on independence, change, and
competition has contributed to massive alienation, anomie,
and even morbidity rates. One response has been a trend
toward the reinterpretation of dependency, as seen in a variety
of recent developments. Carl Rogers, through his work
on group dynamics, has encouraged a variety of lay and professional
approaches that stress dependency interaction.
More recently, “networking” has become a major drive
among persons who recognize their need to relate to other
individuals, especially in urban settings.
Another dependency development is affiliated families,
in which nonblood kin members of two or three generations
pool their needs and resources in a common dwelling or at
least in the same community.
J. GURIAN
See also: Affiliation Need; Alienation (Political); Bonding and
Attachment; Cross-cultural Psychology; Prosocial Behavior
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 20, 2010, 06:53:30 PM
as long as he makes her happy in return... reciprocity...


DEPENDENCY
Dependency is the seeking of identity, support, security, or
permission from outside the self. The dependency object
may be another person; a social unit such as an extended
family or a religious or fraternal order; an entity beyond
the five senses such as a spirit guardian; or even a belief
system in itself, for example, nonviolence, to which the dependent
is devoted and from which the dependent receives
nurture in return.
By definition, dependency is reciprocal. The dependent
seeks, expecting and receiving a dependency response: To
give is to receive and to receive is to give. It is also obligatory:
Dependents are expected to seek and receive return
support. Failure to participate in this circle of obligation
may result in a range of responses from verbal disapproval
to ostracism.
Dependency differs from the related process of interdependence
in which separate entities reciprocally seek identity,
support, security, or permission from one another.
In “dependency societies,” such as Japan, the fledgling
ego is taught to defer inside a vertical authority system.
The ideal of conformity is intended to strengthen the individual’s
sense of self-respect. In “independence societies,”
such as modern mainstream America, the fledgling ego is
expected to move out of obligatory relationships in a horizontal
authority system, rather than to defer. The ideal of
self-focus is intended to strengthen the individual’s sense
of self-respect.
Key characteristics of dependency are bonding, obligation,
reciprocity, trust, continuity, and involvement. Every
culture or subculture defines “normal” dependency on the
basis of its own value system.
Whereas Western thought minimizes continuity between
the living and ancestors, dependency cultures tend
to consider discontinuity as threatening.
Even though there are cultural variations, there seem
also to be certain universals in dependency. Key characteristics
fall into three clusters.
The first cluster may be viewed as negative dependency,
which hinders psychosexual development, crippling the
ability to handle a variety of life situations. The second cluster
can be considered positive, enhancing the maturing process
by aiding individuals and groups to function in ways
that support their sense of well being. The third cluster relates
to an absence or termination of dependency relationships,
which may also cripple development.
It is useful to divide dependency theory into three culturetime
phases: (1) preliterate, tribal, and folk (beginning
to present), (2) modern colonial (1500–1945), and (3) postcolonial
(1945 to present).
Preliterate, Tribal, and Folk Studies
Early ethnological studies tended to view dependency as
structural networking based on tribal, village, folk, and extended
family patterns that were seen, on the whole, as positive.
They were thought to reflect security and other needs
in a life setting severely limited by a prescientific worldview
and technical development.
In such a society individuals define themselves or are
defined as they relate to others, rather than by how they fulfill
or express themselves. Success in these interactions is
considered the most important measure of mature selfexpression.
Modern Colonial
The interruption of traditional dependency patterns has
been a major and often underestimated effect of colonial
contact since the fifteenth century. As Mannoni has shown,
a major factor in the conquest of native peoples was their
own tendency to transfer dependency expectations from familiar
authority figures to European authority substitutes.
Aggressive European cultures exploited native dependency
while at the same time exporting values of independence,
individualism, and progress, which did as much to
weaken native resistance as the horses of Cortez or the
firearms of the British. With its emphasis on competition,
the Protestant work ethic dealt a heavy psychological blow
to traditional notions of reciprocity, obligation, and trust.
Under long-term colonization, the native personality is
thought to have been severely stressed by the need to reconcile
warring dependency-belief systems.
During this same period in the Western world, dependency
appears to have been systematically downgraded to neurotic
behavior. Sigmund Freud theorized that the helplessness
of the infant was the source of lifelong dependency bonds
against which the maturing ego must implacably struggle.
DEPENDENCY 271
Furthermore, Freud held that the psychological structures
and functions of societies paralleled those of individuals.
In modern thought—strongly influenced by Freudian
theory—individuals must struggle to break free from dependence
on groups as well as from a variety of others, beginning
with Mother. What had earlier been seen as reciprocity
came to be regarded as helplessness.
Postcolonial
In the Western world since about 1945, the belief has begun
to emerge that undue stress on independence, change, and
competition has contributed to massive alienation, anomie,
and even morbidity rates. One response has been a trend
toward the reinterpretation of dependency, as seen in a variety
of recent developments. Carl Rogers, through his work
on group dynamics, has encouraged a variety of lay and professional
approaches that stress dependency interaction.
More recently, “networking” has become a major drive
among persons who recognize their need to relate to other
individuals, especially in urban settings.
Another dependency development is affiliated families,
in which nonblood kin members of two or three generations
pool their needs and resources in a common dwelling or at
least in the same community.
J. GURIAN
See also: Affiliation Need; Alienation (Political); Bonding and
Attachment; Cross-cultural Psychology; Prosocial Behavior

I'm not reading all of that.

As for Dustin keller....the girl is marrying him and has taken him into her home.....no one is twisting her arm.

You assume the negative way too much, not everyone is as miserable and cynical as you
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Parker on January 20, 2010, 07:21:37 PM
Dustin seems a little idealistic and insecure when it comes to women. He's afraid of a woman that may be more sexually experienced than him or has a healthy sexual appetite...so he calls them "whores".

But good for him if he found someone that makes him happy. Can't knock the guy for that
That's the point, his happiness is paramount.

 "Bitch I said put your face in the pillow...ahhh, now turn around, I'm done."
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Alex on February 05, 2010, 03:14:59 PM
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Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
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Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
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Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: jesusbod on February 06, 2010, 08:13:46 AM
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Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: javico on February 11, 2010, 09:29:42 PM
Where is Debbie Yates?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates is getting married.
Post by: Tyr on February 11, 2010, 09:34:34 PM
Some guys on here like sharma must be pretty boring individuals and have boring sex with their puppet of a woman. Fearing to loosen their grip just because they re insecure, this kind of relationship usually leads to a state of psychic death for both partners. There's a midle ground between being an intelectualy and emotionally limited "macho man" repressing insecurities and a submisive girly man manipulated by his dependency to his partner.
I bet he stick to only one or two sex positions he enjoys and that his "wife" must have been faking orgasms -if she's allowed to show off her emotions, which might no be the case with a control freak like him- since the begining, not even knowing what they are suposed to feel like. What a life. But this kind of relationship is terribly widespread and common. Until the woman finds out what she's been missing for years with a guy that only cared about himself.

I guess sharma only do the same stuff over and over with his poor "wife" and that she doesnt even has the right to suggest/change anything or it would destroy the poor man's fragile ego and certitudes about his own performance in all aspects of his life. Basically, he's unable to evolve and prevent people from his close entourage to evolve just because he's scared of changes. It's also a paranoid trait, to be certain that any kind of change= the end of his supremacy, and that any kind of change in his everyday life means that he's in danger of losing everything, especially his virility. These kind of behaviors typically reinforce themselves over time and become almost impossible to counter.

Couples are about complentarity and reciprocity, without denying the very particular roles and fonctions of each other depending of his gender. But total domination of only one of the partner doesnt go anywhere. As usual, it's all about transparency about each other skills and how he/she contributes to the survival of the couple or family, it's about balance and about communication.
But unhappy, submissive people will always find a way to bite their self proclamed "master" back one day and always find out why it was that important for him - or her- to keep his-or her- iron grip. Cause yeah, there are also cases of women being as coercive as men. Especially in our modern societies where women are given more rights and the man is more and more neutered. Does it mean he has to stay in a full macho man mode? no. He has to adapt, cause society is changing. Lot of men do change, some others cant, most of the time because of their education. They ll eventually disapear, will be replaced.

There's a massive re-definition of the place and role of Men - and fathers- in our modern occidental societies which is the result of the redefining of the role and place of women in the past decades. This redefining of men's role and place isnt completely negative for men, as there is no point making em become just another "woman", there's no point having two women as mothers and eradicating the man, father place and role.

Most psychologists, psychanalysts and sociologists think most men will adapt and become better men and father without endangering their virility which in itself is only a social construct, which varies from an era to another.

Some people like sharma obviously confine themselves into a reassuring but obsolete role of the old "macho man" figure, too bad it's just archaic, but maybe that's all they know and can refer to, facing changes that they cant understand due to their limited intelectual and emotional intelligence.

Changes if dealt with intelligence can be very positive for anyone, but people who tend to pathologically fear changes are just insecure people who see every opportunity to open themselves as a threat to their existence. Most of the time people are insecure about their OWN shortcomings they use a lot of energy and ressources to keep hidden, and make their loved ones lifes existences miserable.



The guy managing the "Sharma" account  is the typical jihadist uneducated muslim who despises those with better lives than him. All his posts drip with the shame common among lower class muslim trailer trash.