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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: AC Slater on April 05, 2010, 01:34:46 PM
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All getbiggers that are not schmoes must join the cause.
http://www.dimensionsmagazine.com/forums/index.php
That is a forum for fatties to console and comfort eachother for being over weight. They are trying to get shit like anti-weight discrimination laws passed. They see nothing wrong at being fat and actually encourage it.
You need to register on that site, and spam links on there to the 'Fat people's lack of willpower is sickening' thread over here on getbig. I did it but I got banned.
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http://www.dimensionsmagazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70672
That is the kind of shit im talking about. Those fat asses need to be dealt with.
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If there really was a "war" against fat people, they would make really easy targets because they are big and slow.
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pic from that forum. nasty:
(http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs102.snc1/4883_544745054440_5900252_32250244_4191969_n.jpg)
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Fat people are all right. Good reminders to stay in shape. They help keep the motivation wheels turning. And they make one look better by looking not so good. Fat women are easy. They seem easier. When I think about it fat people are awesome. lol Not my cup of tea physically but they are cool aside from that.
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pic from that forum. nasty:
(http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs102.snc1/4883_544745054440_5900252_32250244_4191969_n.jpg)
A fiiend of mine that died had his photo taken right there ??? crazzzzzzzzzzzzy.
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They're already beyond any and all help. I'm just too lazy to mock them.
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You should love someone for what's inside them
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their lack of will power sickens me
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should be used as slave labor so that us elite specimens do not have to work and can focus on more important things, then when they die from heart attacks from being worked hard in the fields and factories grind them and use them as fertilizer for our crops.
maybe thats a bit harsh
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They're already beyond any and all help. I'm just too lazy to mock them.
Your lack of will power disappoints all of us.
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Some cant help it due to genetics, most are assholes or bitches.
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LMAO!!!!!!!! *SINGS* "One of these things is not like the other"
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Haha i try ed it and it said we are not excepting new members at this time due to a high volume of spam...the power of getbig...
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Your lack of will power disappoints all of us.
Mocking them does not help. Take this from someone who has tried helping them for years. :)
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Fat people are allright.
For one thing they make me lookgreat in comparison. I once lived in a fat Oregon town for a few months and I instantly become the beefacke boytoy of the town jsut because i'm somewhat handsome and in shape.
Keep on getting fat people. Less competition.
Also taking a wild ride on a fat pussy is fun sometimes.
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yeah, great point ship.
the more fat people, the better. makes those who work out look 10 times better. I'd hate a world where every dude was 10% body fat%.
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i guess the girl on the left is what you men folk call "taking one for the team"
No I dont feel sorry for them, even if they have bad genetics or alike, they still dont need to eat crap all the time
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i guess the girl on the left is what you men folk call "taking one for the team"
No I dont feel sorry for them, even if they have bad genetics or alike, they still dont need to eat crap all the time
LOL Im no team player when it comes to someone like her..I love curves but she is just lazy IMO ,there is no excuse to look like that..she could be a nice girl but being a slob is not cool.
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LOL Im no team player when it comes to someone like her..I love curves but she is just lazy IMO ,there is no excuse to look like that..she could be a nice girl but being a slob is not cool.
i hear ya..trust me it is about being lazy, I know. And if they say they are happy or dont care THEY ARE FUCKING LYING
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I have no problem with an overweight person wanting to accept their body. The problem I have is this: despite the tons of literature that exists that correlate being overweight with health problems, these people just choose not to do anything about it. Its not so much the physical appearance that bother is me, as much as the blatant disregard for one's health.
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Let me see some know-it-all survive on Dimensions and help the fat people. Any knucklehead can get banned from that moderated place. The fat women are moderators as well as a couple of blokes. Those who think the fat people are lazy and stupid are in for a shock.
You will see reverse values there compared to Getbig. Gals are appreciated when the gain size. That is because some men fancy bigger women and the bigger the better. Many fat women hang around there because they get support and they are protected from the usual crap such as what we find here on Getbig in the lack of will power thread.
The truth is men had better get used to having fatter girlfriends and wives in most western countries. You have a 1 in 3 chance that your wife will eventually be obese. Most people have family that are fat and definitely friends and relatives. So, why the hate towards these people?
As out own Keith will testify, once you get fat it is very, very difficult to reverse body composition. Oh, when you are young you don't give it a second thought. Most fat women have dieted to no avail. When they diet and diet and diet they end up with bodies in starvation mode and it is extremely difficult to get rid of that adipose tissue. Muscle experts should be helping fat people instead of bagging them.
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Let me see some know-it-all survive on Dimensions and help the fat people. Any knucklehead can get banned from that moderated place. The fat women are moderators as well as a couple of blokes. Those who think the fat people are lazy and stupid are in for a shock.
You will see reverse values there compared to Getbig. Gals are appreciated when the gain size. That is because some men fancy bigger women and the bigger the better. Many fat women hang around there because they get support and they are protected from the usual crap such as what we find here on Getbig in the lack of will power thread.
The truth is men had better get used to having fatter girlfriends and wives in most western countries. You have a 1 in 3 chance that your wife will eventually be obese. Most people have family that are fat and definitely friends and relatives. So, why the hate towards these people?
As out own Keith will testify, once you get fat it is very, very difficult to reverse body composition. Oh, when you are young you don't give it a second thought. Most fat women have dieted to no avail. When they diet and diet and diet they end up with bodies in starvation mode and it is extremely difficult to get rid of that adipose tissue. Muscle experts should be helping fat people instead of bagging them.
Basically, they are glad men have lower standards...Face it being fat is bad for the health, and to encourage it means that they are encouraging bad health and a shorten life span. Yes, pro bbing is unhealthy, but bbing itself is not. Gorging yourself on fruit rollups, pig feet, fatback, chocolate cake and scrapple is the height of gluttony, and sloth.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=326553.0;attach=365887;image)
This image gives me a terrible feeling deep down in the pit of my stomach.
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Whether fat people are healthier than pro bodybuilders is a good question. I think the fat people are healthier! Intelligence is not a quality required to ingest what the pros have to re drugs.
There are many sexual preferences and some guys fancy big women. That is the way they are wired. So, Dimensions is a site that brings together fat women and their admirers. It works for most of them.
What I find rather gutless is the big mouths here who think they know a lot but wouldn't last a day on that forum. The reality is most on this forum know bugger all about obesity but think they are experts because they can lose some fat before a contest. It isn't as simple as that.
Gym owners know how hard it is to get results for fat people. To make things worse, fat people don't feel comfortable at gyms because most members look great and they think people will be staring at them and criticizing them. Reading this forum proves their fears are correct. Bodybuilders as a group are biased meatheads when it comes to populations that are different from them. Of course, Getbig blokes are hardly big and muscular when you see photos of them. All the more reason they should be easy on fat and skinny people.
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The truth is men had better get used to having fatter girlfriends and wives in most western countries. You have a 1 in 3 chance that your wife will eventually be obese.
You make it sound like some sort of random crapshoot. Maintaining a level of simple basic fitness is a matter of character, not luck.
People who completely let themselves go have deeper issues. Obesity is just a manifestation of their problems.
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Maintaining a level of simple basic fitness is a matter of character, not luck.
People who completely let themselves go have deeper issues. Obesity is just a manifestation of their problems.
Absolute rubbish and sloppy logic. Maintaining a level of fitness isn't a matter of character! Obesity isn't a manifestation of issues and problems. I suggest you do some research instead of using big words to offend the fat population.
Ron Avidan should be ashamed to allow these unwarranted attacks on fat people.
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I suggest you do some research instead of using big words to offend the fat population.
Don't worry. They're on a sugar high and feeling no pain.
And the preferred term is 'rubenesque,' Captain Adipose.
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Don't worry. They're on a sugar high and feeling no pain.
And the preferred term is 'rubenesque,' Captain Adipose.
I bet his utility belt is stocked with containers of Mrs. Dash.
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I bet his utility belt is stocked with containers of Mrs. Dash.
'Quick! To the shopping scooter!"
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Basically, they are glad men have lower standards...Face it being fat is bad for the health, and to encourage it means that they are encouraging bad health and a shorten life span. Yes, pro bbing is unhealthy, but bbing itself is not. Gorging yourself on fruit rollups, pig feet, fatback, chocolate cake and scrapple is the height of gluttony, and sloth.
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I have to laugh when I think of the musclemen who get pissed off when fat people go flying past them in those heavy duty scooters. Some guy said there should be a law about that!
Read what Keith had to say about his obesity. It wasn't his fault and he is having a problem trying to reverse that condition. Anyone who thinks that fat people want to be that way are mistaken. At best some don't mind it but most would rather be not so large.
I fail to see that it is okay to make fun of fat people. At a certain point it becomes a disability. We have no idea what it is like to be like them so I suggest trying some empathy instead of the jokes and insults.
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I have to laugh when I think of the musclemen who get pissed off when fat people go flying past them in those heavy duty scooters. Some guy said there should be a law about that!
Read what Keith had to say about his obesity. It wasn't his fault and he is having a problem trying to reverse that condition. Anyone who thinks that fat people want to be that way are mistaken. At best some don't mind it but most would rather be not so large.
I fail to see that it is okay to make fun of fat people. At a certain point it becomes a disability. We have no idea what it is like to be like them so I suggest trying some empathy instead of the jokes and insults.
You make fun of Goodbum all the time, what is the difference? He's mentally challenged.
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I can't stand fat people
mostly because I grew up in a very poor part of brazil where I saw many of my friends die from starvation and i can't stand the thought that these fat people are so greedy to eat copious amounts of food when some people have no food
and by "I grew up in a very poor part of brazil where i saw many of my friends die from starvations" I really mean "that is what i tell the smarter skanks at the bars so they think i'm a well traveled, tortured soul..then they eventually blow me in my car"
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You make fun of Goodbum all the time, what is the difference? He's mentally challenged.
Vince is a chubby chaser, not a, er, bell curve rider.
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Something real sad about that photo. I feel sorry for the big girl. She must get teased a lot and she is probably in pain. Poor thing.
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I have to laugh when I think of the musclemen who get pissed off when fat people go flying past them in those heavy duty scooters. Some guy said there should be a law about that!
Read what Keith had to say about his obesity. It wasn't his fault and he is having a problem trying to reverse that condition. Anyone who thinks that fat people want to be that way are mistaken. At best some don't mind it but most would rather be not so large.
I fail to see that it is okay to make fun of fat people. At a certain point it becomes a disability. We have no idea what it is like to be like them so I suggest trying some empathy instead of the jokes and insults.
We cannot repel self righteousness of this magnitude!
Next time, Adipose! Next time!
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4OYGjUrdllo/ScMLh9HBofI/AAAAAAAASXQ/2CjCgGuuL20/s400/23.jpg)
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Vince is a chubby chaser, not a, er, bell curve rider.
haha, yes chimps.....I would say that maybe Canadian Vince is angered because his approach of Vince G was rebuffed with extreme prejudice.
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Goodrum is challenged by lots of things but isn't a dope.
People here like to have a good laugh and so target anyone who is considered fat. Well, when we see who these critics are they look like crap, too, so shouldn't throw any stones.
If a guy gets up on stage in a bodybuilding contest and is smooth then he gets laughed at. That isn't the same as laughing at fat people. The fact that others share your prejudice doesn't make it right.
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Something real sad about that photo. I feel sorry for the big girl. She must get teased a lot and she is probably in pain. Poor thing.
I was thinking the same thing when I saw that photo. She is obviously getting played in that shot.
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Big girls don't have to be ashamed of themselves in photos. At Dimensions the guys there appreciate what they present. You guys will have to accept that some guys fancy different things when it comes to sexual attraction. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it isn't right for someone else.
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I can't stand fat people
mostly because I grew up in a very poor part of brazil where I saw many of my friends die from starvation and i can't stand the thought that these fat people are so greedy to eat copious amounts of food when some people have no food
and by "I grew up in a very poor part of brazil where i saw many of my friends die from starvations" I really mean "that is what i tell the smarter skanks at the bars so they think i'm a well traveled, tortured soul..then they eventually blow me in my car"
seriously, do you all know how well thought out/ funny that post was?!
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i know basile takes to ignoring my posts but seriously
everyone of his posts are either "Goodrum this" or "Goodrum that"....seriously, vince- do you know how much good porn there is on the internet?
I mean don't you ever realize that making fun of Vince is pretty fucking easy. At this point it is like beating up a fat mongoloid
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Like Johnny I spend too much time on the internet so know how to waste my time as good as anyone else.
I have tried to help Goodrum in the past but he is too smart to need our help. He represents the flotsam here and knows bugger all about most things but that doesn't stop him posting as if he were an authority. That is what is funny about him and why Keith and I have to respond to his crap.
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Like Johnny I spend too much time on the internet so know how to waste my time as good as anyone else.
I have tried to help Goodrum in the past but he is too smart to need our help. He represents the flotsam here and knows bugger all about most things but that doesn't stop him posting as if he were an authority. That is what is funny about him and why Keith and I have to respond to his crap.
i see. that actually makes sense
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I can't stand fat people
mostly because I grew up in a very poor part of brazil where I saw many of my friends die from starvation and i can't stand the thought that these fat people are so greedy to eat copious amounts of food when some people have no food
and by "I grew up in a very poor part of brazil where i saw many of my friends die from starvations" I really mean "that is what i tell the smarter skanks at the bars so they think i'm a well traveled, tortured soul..then they eventually blow me in my car"
ya that was funny shit .........u took away something away by restating it tho'
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Wasn't his fault? Did someone force feed him? No. So it was his fault. Doesn't matter if he got sick or whatever, he was fat to begin with (I think he said he was doing "shows" where people expected him to be 300lbs). Guess what, even 300lbs is fat as FUCK.
Hey boy we can't all be perfect specimens like you. I have been fat for about 10 years now. But you know I still have more going for me than you., Oh and of course your retort will be "no you don't you fat pig, I am a champion and a winner at everything I do. That's why I can say what I do. Of course I have to do it hiding behind a computer" See it's kids like you who have nothing going for them that talk the shit. You are going to be the punk who gets some disease or in an accident crying your pussy face off. Oh yea forgot you are invincible, hahaha keep thinking that. A big mouth from a small punk kid. Do you think you even matter to anyone. Kids like you talk before thinking or talk about shit they have no idea anything about. You guys are even funny to talk about this shit. I bet more than half you have fat fucking parents or grandparents. What the fuck is there excuse. People are different. You losers who put people down to feel better about themselves. It is that easy. Pure and simple. Hope this helps
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This gal weighs over 600 pounds. She has a message for those who hate fat people.
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u took away something away by restating it tho'
that is part of "my underappreciated internet comedian" act i'm developing
see, comedy isn't always about "laughter"...it's all very "andy Kaufman-esque"
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that is part of "my underappreciated internet comedian" act i'm developing
see, comedy isn't always about "laughter"...it's all very "andy Kaufman-esque"
You can now pick up Kickboxer on Blu-Ray. :D
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You can now pick up Kickboxer on Blu-Ray. :D
dude, i know. I saw it last week at Best Buy and was gonna pick it up yesterday but some asshole picked it up already
Bloodsport (with features) needs to come out on Blu ray given that the 25th anniversary is coming up
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dude, i know. I saw it last week at Best Buy and was gonna pick it up yesterday but some asshole picked it up already
Bloodsport (with features) needs to come out on Blu ray given that the 25th anniversary is coming up
I picked it up at a Wal-Mart for $8 and a steal at that price. 8)
I was looking for Bloodsport but could not find it. >:(
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You know fellas, a guy like Keith even now could take most of you wannabes by the neck and scare the shit out of you. How dare you insult a guy like that! He benched over 500 pounds and beat guys who won the World Arm Wrestling Championship. Shows how brave most are behind anonymous handles. Every time we see a photo of some hero he is ordinary and looks like crap. Goodrum looks better than most of the asses here. This Xerxes guy is another guy who has done bugger all in bodybuilding yet thinks he is superior to fat people. How sad is it when these nobodies have to do that?
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Big girls don't have to be ashamed of themselves in photos. At Dimensions the guys there appreciate what they present. You guys will have to accept that some guys fancy different things when it comes to sexual attraction. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it isn't right for someone else.
Anybody can be played...she was in that pic. Would you agree?
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I picked it up at a Wal-Mart for $8 and a steal at that price. 8)
I was looking for Bloodsport but could not find it. >:(
bloodsport won't happen because the producer know it will make us happy
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Xerxes, why are you on a bodybuilding forum, then? Do you think because you are a student going to university that you are smarter than most here as well?
When I saw your photo I thought wtf is this. I expected someone who had been around and not some young kid fresh out of high school. One day you will be ashamed of starting that thread about will power. That reflects more about your ignorance than anything about fat people.
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bloodsport won't happen because the producer know it will make us happy
>:( I will pay whatever they want for it. >:(
I want "Jaws" on Blu-Ray too. >:(
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Yeah, Xerxes, I didn't think you could justify your ignorance.
Here is Valerie's web site for those who like big pearshaped gals.
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there is absolutely no reason to harbour resentment towards overweight/obese people... but this is getbig so its probably just shit stirring as per usual
and if their look makes people like Vince happy - then thats great!
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Not everyone agrees with you. Some fat women look great. Depends what you like and what your experience is. Of course, young fellows starting out don't always have much choice because most can't get laid. Young people tend to be idealistic and have all these high values and morals. As they age they discover the world isn't quite as rosy as they thought.
If some of you get rid of your judgemental attitude and start accepting others you will have a lot more fun in life. Most of you guys are afraid to date a gal unless you think your mates would approve. How limiting is that? You will find that your idea of beauty and what is attractive will change over the decades. It can happen. Lots of different women are attractive. That is the truth. Even some fat women. So get used to this because that is the reality.
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Wow epic meltdown :o. Relax man, all I was saying is that you were fat from the start. People get fat by themselves, are you saying you weren't fat before your illness? I would never ridicule someone because of an illness, and I hope you are better.
These photos are of me at 300 to 305. I competed at this weight. I am not by any means skinny. But I am not fat. I have some fat obviosuly buit who cares. I am NOT a bodybuilder or ever said I was. I did what I did and did pretty good at it. I was training for the 2000 olympics in the Discus. I was weighing about 293 when I moved to LA to train with a coach who saw me train in Hawaii. I was throwing 196' then with 2 years to train. My goal weight was 275. I was riding my bike 28 miles a day at least 3 to 4 days a week. At 8am I would ride to the gym which was 7 miles from my house which included some of the biggest hills in the area. Not a flat ride. Then I would go back to the gym at 4pm. That is 28 miles. On weekends I had a truck tire I filled with cement and would tie a rope around my waist and pull the tire around Diamond Head in Honolulu. I was in the best cardio shape I have been in. I was still benching 500 and could still put my leg behind my head and do full splits. Then when I moved to LA within 2 months I got bit by the spider. For five years my leg was so painful I could barely walk. Every month my I would get a 102 degree temperture and shiver, my calf would swell up to 31", get so red you could not touch it, the skin would peel and I would leak water from my calf. This literally happened every month for the first 5 years. It would get so bad I would spend 4 to 5 hours in my bathtub with the hottest water cause I could not walk. As the years gone by it has gotten better. 3 years ago I spent christmas and new years (2 weeks) in the hospital cause my leg swelled to 32" and just wouldn't go down. From my weaked immune system now I get sick when before I never got sick. I have gotten gout 3 times. I just got hypoxia and pneumonia. So if you think I wanted to get fat and sloppy you are kidding yourself. I made great money with my body the way it was. I was not a fitness king or a skinny guy or bodybuilder. I was a guy who when I walked into just about any business or place people would look and ask me what football team I played for or how much I bench or can I feel your muscles. I was never called fat. I am trying to lose it and get back into decent shape. It is taking way longer than I thought cause shit happens along the way. I can't control that. So go ahead make fun of me being fat. But I was not always fat. These are not excuses. I have none. These are just the facts and in some way have affected me mentally where I sometime lose my drive.
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how does valerie wipe her ass after taking a dump if nobody's home ? and what of her toilet dimensions? chernobyl in that bathoom when valerie goes , or the poor family member that draws the short straw on who's wiping valerie's ass..........
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thank god for people for like Vince who settle for less!
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Yes, I am on here because I think this board is funny, possibly the funniest board. No I do not think that I am smarter than most on here. Why would you ask me such a thing? The discussion was about fat people, not intelligence.
Most fat people are fat because they are lazy. Deal with it.
I totally agree with the lazy part. Even those people I feel sick for. I hate lazy people and parents who feed their kids shit and fuck their kids up for life. But the last thing I have been called is lazy. I trained hard for many years and worked hard. In fact people who really know me say I work way to much. So yes lazy fat people to me are ones who need to get their shit together. The funny thing is the people who make fun of me being fat are the ones who don't know me from before. People who know me from before understand what happened and know what I have done.
That bottom photo is what what calf would look like about 10 to 14 days out of a month
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I totally agree with the lazy part. Even those people I feel sick for. I hate lazy people and parents who feed their kids shit and fuck their kids up for life. But the last thing I have been called is lazy. I trained hard for many years and worked hard. In fact people who really know me say I work way to much. So yes lazy fat people to me are ones who need to get their shit together. The funny thing is the people who make fun of me being fat are the ones who don't know me from before. People who know me from before understand what happened and know what I have done.
That bottom photo is what what calf would look like about 10 to 14 days out of a month
Wow. Those photos are rough. Hopefully you can get back in shape.
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Yeah, Xerxes, I didn't think you could justify your ignorance.
Here is Valerie's web site for those who like big pearshaped gals.
If you think "Valerie" is attractive you're in the small minority of population.
I've been reading your posts here and I ask you: Why are you defending fat people so much? Is it because you find obese women attractive or something?
I have nothing against fat people and I don't hate them or anything like that, but I'm definitively against these people trying to justify their condition and actually trying to make it a good thing. That is the reason this thread was started, how can you defend or justify a person being obese? "Looks" aside, its terribly unhealthy to be that fat, whether you like it or not.
Why don't these people try to do something to lose weight if they feel miserable as you say?
Why are they grouping themselves together in communities to defend their condition, when they feel miserable?
Why would anyone allow themselves to get to that condition is beyond me.
And I'm not talking about being in shape or lean all the time, just not obese. There is nothing wrong if someone is a little chubby or has slightly high bodyfat on, but being too fat is another thing.
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Some men find Valerie and other large, fat women very attractive. So what if these admirers are in the minority. That is one sexual preference and just as valid as any other.
Most bodybuilders think that it is an easy thing to avoid becoming obese. Well, if you go to Dimensions and actually hang around there you find your theories are full of holes. It isn't as simple as having too many calories. There are many causes of obesity and overeating is just one.
You guys can think you are smart here but go register at Dimensions and see how smart you are there. They will send you packing and show that your ideas are full of crap. I used to think it was all black and white but I found out it is much more complicated than that and research is finding new things all the time.
Because physical attractiveness is so important to women you would think that none of them would let themselves get overweight then obese. Well, lots of things combine to cause that in some women and men. Those people have special survival genes for when food is not plentiful and so when they are in countries where food is plentiful they tend to store any excess. You could eat the same as they do but you stay the same whereas they gain fat. It is somewhat cruel the way fat accumulates on them. Then they get all that will power going and diet like crazy and lose a lot of weight. When they start eating normally they store more fat. It is a vicious circle and traps many women in fat bodies. Many are active and healthy so you can't classify them all as unhealthy.
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Well the color is great. I don't get fevers or get red. But it gets big because I have lymphodema. It swells with fluid. I wear a compression sock which helps keep it smaller. But, it appears that the major shit is gone. What it did though was weaken my immune system and I get sick when I usually wouldn't get sick. Everything that happens to me is on the same side as my bad leg.
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Fat people will win!
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Most bodybuilders think that it is an easy thing to avoid becoming obese. Well, if you go to Dimensions and actually hang around there you find your theories are full of holes. It isn't as simple as having too many calories. There are many causes of obesity and overeating is just one.
Overeating is ALWAYS the cause. The question of why they are overeating is more complex. But simply stated, overeating is always the direct reason someone gains excess weight.
Keith had his accident, couldn't walk, couldn't train, got depressed. So he overate to a crazy degree. He is fat because he ingests a huge amount of calories on a daily basis, period. Like he says, he lost his drive and he has talked about getting depressed after the spider incident, which is understandable. But the spider bite didn't change his metabolism, he just eats to excess.
Just like with training science and theory you can't see the forest for the trees. Increased calories is to increased weight like increased tension on a muscle is to hypertrophy. ;)
De-fattening obese people isn't easy but the direct cause is simple and obvious (or should be).
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keith try to get back into shape man. you were a stud back in the day. you can be one again.
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dude, i know. I saw it last week at Best Buy and was gonna pick it up yesterday but some asshole picked it up already
Bloodsport (with features) needs to come out on Blu ray given that the 25th anniversary is coming up
Maybe it can have a new special feature segment, where Frank Dux, admits that he lied about everything, and the entire thing was a farce!
That said..... Bloodsport is the Win!
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Maybe it can have a new special feature segment, where Frank Dux, admits that he lied about everything, and the entire thing was a farce!
i think he can thank "The Internet" for beating him to the, figurative, punch for that
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This gal weighs over 600 pounds. She has a message for those who hate fat people.
That "gal" has facial hair. Does getting morbidly obese make a woman's test levels abnormally high?
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damn keith hope your feeling better
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Some men find Valerie and other large, fat women very attractive. So what if these admirers are in the minority. That is one sexual preference and just as valid as any other.
Most bodybuilders think that it is an easy thing to avoid becoming obese. Well, if you go to Dimensions and actually hang around there you find your theories are full of holes. It isn't as simple as having too many calories. There are many causes of obesity and overeating is just one.
You guys can think you are smart here but go register at Dimensions and see how smart you are there. They will send you packing and show that your ideas are full of crap. I used to think it was all black and white but I found out it is much more complicated than that and research is finding new things all the time.
Because physical attractiveness is so important to women you would think that none of them would let themselves get overweight then obese. Well, lots of things combine to cause that in some women and men. Those people have special survival genes for when food is not plentiful and so when they are in countries where food is plentiful they tend to store any excess. You could eat the same as they do but you stay the same whereas they gain fat. It is somewhat cruel the way fat accumulates on them. Then they get all that will power going and diet like crazy and lose a lot of weight. When they start eating normally they store more fat. It is a vicious circle and traps many women in fat bodies. Many are active and healthy so you can't classify them all as unhealthy.
The sexual preference is a valid one for sure, its just a bit weird. To each their own.
Some of them may appear to be healthy and even be healthy at the present moment, but in the long run is a different story. There are many diseases that are linked to obesity too, heart problems, diabetes, etc.
As far as the causes go, I can see your point here, but it seems to me that grossly overeating is the major cause. I mean, what happens when an obese person gets a stomach reduction? They loose the excess weight by eating less.
Now, I'm sure some of these people may have hormonal problems too that contribute to their condition, but its still a condition that its not good and should be tried to overcome.
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Keith can make it back, I think he is slowly on the path...
Most fat don't realize that they are taxing themselves, and those that lose weight feel unburdened. It's like a Honda civic hatchback with 2000 pounds of weight. Of course it will go slow and be taxed. Remove the weight and that light car will ball. Many obese don't realize this. And many dot want to put in the work and change their lifestyles. Because this is America, they believe that there is a quick fix (and drug companies are searching for it), when in fact, it took them yrs to gain the weight, and it will take time to lose it. But, because the human body is amazing, it takes less time to lose it than it did to gain it.
It costs too much money to make extra large clothes, special accomodations, etc.
I was at the Mercedes dealership one day. And they had the C63 AMG, for those that don't know, that is a BMW M3 competitor, it will do 0-60 in 3.9 secs. Well, I was told that there was a guy who wanted it, but he couldn't fit into the seats...see what happens, you miss out on the good shit.
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Here is the thing. I never had to watch my weight, I was skinny in high school. In fact I would have made our varsity baseball team as a freshman the coach said but at 130 I wasn't big enough. That team (the seniors) produced 4 or 5 pro ball players including a future Cy young award winner. So I was good enough just not big enough, That is when I took up weightlifting which was around 1972 or 73'. By the time I was a senior I was 210 (photo included). I remained at 220 out of high school for the next several years because I played ball and 220 was my weight. Well around 1980 or 81 when it looked like no more baseball I lifted ,more and went to the original World Gym where I got up to 247. In 1983 I took up armwrestling and the weight class for heavyweights then stopped at 220. I could not get down to that weight. So now I had to compete in the superheavy in which now I am one of the smallest with most everyone at 300 and over. So I decided to lift heavier and get as big and strong as I could. In 1986 I took test cyp 200mg. for 6 months straight. Literally quitting the day after the World Championships and have not taken a thing since. I kept my strength and size because I continue to lift heavy just not all the time. There would be times where I traveled so much or was busy I couldn't get to the gym or was just to tired. But, most of the time I kept my size and strength and in fact incline benched the most I have ever done around 1994 or so when I did 505 completely drug free in a t-shirt.
So most of my life I have been bigger than most but never considered fat by anyone. Hell I could fit in 37 Girbaud and Cavaricchi's at 300+ pounds. In fact I still have a pair that someday I will fit in again. When I got hurt I went from putting myself to sleep at night by thinking about what I was going to do the next day in the gym to barely sleeping at all cause ,my leg would throb so bad that I just couldn't sleep. I could not walk and I could not go out and do alot of things because ,my leg would leak liquid all over the place. I went to a movie one time and at the end got up and fell cause my feet slipped in about a gallon of liquid. It would soak my socks and shoes so I ended up just wearing flipflops. So what happened was I got stuck at home working doing nothing but eating. I knew I was getting in bad shape and I would try to go to the gym but then the next day I got sick with high fever then stuck in bed again and this went on for years. It just got out of hand. I got so fucking depressed that I would not leave my house or if I did I would just hang around my pool so my leg would leak in there and not make a mess. The biggest thing is WILLPOWER. Before I got hurt I had major willpower. I would go to the market with a friend and talk to the pies and cakes and tell them not yet wait till I get down to 280 and all kinds of shit. After I got hurt and I started thinking who knows when I will get better I didn't care what I ate. Well combine that with not doig shit and you get fat. At least before I was burning alot of calories so I could eat more. Now I am eating the same calories but not doing anything.
Anyway, so now I am fat but I am, not fat and real sloppy like people who have been fat their whole lives. I have no idea how they do that. I can barely handle it now. If I was fat my whole life I am not sure if I could make it. Anyway, even though there are fat people and skinny people who cares. Honestly worry about yourself and your health cause at anytime it can be taken away from you.
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Is that Mega Mass 40,000 she's downing? She cute though!
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damn...didnt bother to read whole thread but how the hell does your leg get like that?some kind of infection?
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Do you think fat people aren't experts in dieting? Of course they know how people get obese. What I am saying it isn't always as simple as the simpletons here imagine. The body regulates our fat content. Most people don't have to worry about it. Fat people do. If they eat just a bit more than is necessary it is stored as fat. You can get fat really gradually by not really overeating. That is the point. Just normal meals yet some people store fat from eating the same portions. If you eat 25 extra calories a day for a year you can be about 3 pounds heavier. If you do this for 10 years you gain about 30 pounds. The point is this isn't overeating. You can get fat over a period of time by not eating that much more than you need. Certainly your body doesn't regulate your bodyweight to any precise degree.
Most young males find they have to eat a lot more food when they start lifting weights. That is because they run around and are active so consume a lot of calories just being young. Most of these guys can't understand how anyone else can get fat so assume they are slobs and overeat. Nope, it isn't that simple. The term overeat is a loaded one for sure. What critics here do is label everyone who is fat as overeaters because if they didn't consume extra calories they wouldn't be obese.
My point is if you talk to fat people and listen to them you hear a different story and aren't so quick to lay blame at them.
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Do you think fat people aren't experts in dieting? Of course they know how people get obese. What I am saying it isn't always as simple as the simpletons here imagine. The body regulates our fat content. Most people don't have to worry about it. Fat people do. If they eat just a bit more than is necessary it is stored as fat. You can get fat really gradually by not really overeating. That is the point. Just normal meals yet some people store fat from eating the same portions. If you eat 25 extra calories a day for a year you can be about 3 pounds heavier. If you do this for 10 years you gain about 30 pounds. The point is this isn't overeating. You can get fat over a period of time by not eating that much more than you need. Certainly your body doesn't regulate your bodyweight to any precise degree.
Most young males find they have to eat a lot more food when they start lifting weights. That is because they run around and are active so consume a lot of calories just being young. Most of these guys can't understand how anyone else can get fat so assume they are slobs and overeat. Nope, it isn't that simple. The term overeat is a loaded one for sure. What critics here do is label everyone who is fat as overeaters because if they didn't consume extra calories they wouldn't be obese.
My point is if you talk to fat people and listen to them you hear a different story and aren't so quick to lay blame at them.
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I know a lot of fat people and all of them have something in common, THEY LOVE FOOD !!!!!!!!!!!
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These photos are of me at 300 to 305. I competed at this weight. I am not by any means skinny. But I am not fat. I have some fat obviosuly buit who cares. I am NOT a bodybuilder or ever said I was. I did what I did and did pretty good at it. I was training for the 2000 olympics in the Discus.[/quote]
Noworries have you read the book by Werner Reiterer called 'Positive'. He was the Austalian Discus thrower who pulled out of the 2000 Olympics because he said he couldn't handle being on the gear.
Personally i thought he should have won gold then come out. He said at the end he was throwing the best in the world a year out from the contest and that was indication he would probably win.
http://www.thrower.com.au/thrower-articles/2001/3/7/werner-keeps-fighting-aoc-but-faces-ruin/
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Keith, if you were throwing the discus about 60 metres that is an impressive throw. My best was just over 44 metres so what you did was way out there. You need a lot of power and great technique to get it near 200 feet. You have to be quick and very coordinated. Of course, improving and representing the USA is another thing altogether but good for you to have had a go. Damn those dangerous brown recluse spiders.
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Do you think fat people aren't experts in dieting? Of course they know how people get obese. What I am saying it isn't always as simple as the simpletons here imagine. The body regulates our fat content. Most people don't have to worry about it. Fat people do. If they eat just a bit more than is necessary it is stored as fat. You can get fat really gradually by not really overeating. That is the point. Just normal meals yet some people store fat from eating the same portions. If you eat 25 extra calories a day for a year you can be about 3 pounds heavier. If you do this for 10 years you gain about 30 pounds. The point is this isn't overeating. You can get fat over a period of time by not eating that much more than you need. Certainly your body doesn't regulate your bodyweight to any precise degree.
Most young males find they have to eat a lot more food when they start lifting weights. That is because they run around and are active so consume a lot of calories just being young. Most of these guys can't understand how anyone else can get fat so assume they are slobs and overeat. Nope, it isn't that simple. The term overeat is a loaded one for sure. What critics here do is label everyone who is fat as overeaters because if they didn't consume extra calories they wouldn't be obese.
My point is if you talk to fat people and listen to them you hear a different story and aren't so quick to lay blame at them.
You can dress it up and rationalize it in as many ways as you want - I'm sure the fatties in the other forum do that all the time to justify their looks and eating habits.
BUT,
The bottom line is that if you took all the fat people out there and put them on a restricted calorie diet that is strictly enforced,
1) They will ALL lose weight, without an exception and
2) All of them will love and praise the way they look and feel after they've lost the weight.
There are some guys who like the way those whales look, for sure. But there are also people out there who like kids, animals, female bodybuilders that don't even look human, and even inanimate objects ranging from fruit to God knows what. So the whole 'fat is beautiful' campaign is a load of crap and one that applies only to a very small percentage of the population that's statistically insignificant - it's true, but not the reason people eat like a pig so they can end up looking like one.
All fat people, no matter how much noise they may make about feeling beautiful, have a massive inferiority complex on the inside and hate the average person who is sitting around 20% body fat or less. The ones who actually believe they are beautiful comprise a very small percentage within that bracket and might possibly do it due to some kind of mental illness or because they're light headed from not having eaten anything in the last 5 minutes.
I'm referring to obese people, BTW, not a person who is 10 - 20% bodyfat.
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You can dress it up and rationalize it in as many ways as you want - I'm sure the fatties in the other forum do that all the time to justify their looks and eating habits.
BUT,
The bottom line is that if you took all the fat people out there and put them on a restricted calorie diet that is strictly enforced,
1) They will ALL lose weight, without an exception and
2) All of them will love and praise the way they look and feel after they've lost the weight.
There are some guys who like the way those whales look, for sure. But there are also people out there who like kids, animals, female bodybuilders that don't even look human, and even inanimate objects ranging from fruit to God knows what. So the whole 'fat is beautiful' campaign is a load of crap and one that applies only to a very small percentage of the population that's statistically insignificant - it's true, but not the reason people eat like a pig so they can end up looking like one.
All fat people, no matter how much noise they may make about feeling beautiful, have a massive inferiority complex on the inside and hate the average person who is sitting around 20% body fat or less. The ones who actually believe they are beautiful comprise a very small percentage within that bracket and might possibly do it due to some kind of mental illness or because they're light headed from not having eaten anything in the last 5 minutes.
I'm referring to obese people, BTW, not a person who is 10 - 20% bodyfat.
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Musclemen are so thick. The fat people would sort you out if you posted that nonsense on their forum. I challenge any of you experts to have a go and see if you are accepted there. You will get a hiding from them.
Yes, when fat people have weight loss surgery they usually lose heaps of weight. Some regain that afterwards. It isn't as simple as everyone thinks. I am telling you that most fat people have settings in their bodies that don't regulate like they do in bodybuilders. All this superiorty and smugness is unjustified because no one here is an expert in obesity. If you were you wouldn't be posting rubbish about them.
In the fat community they refer to all fat women as BBWs. Big Beautiful Women. That is obviously not true, but is a lot better than thinking all fat women are ugly. These people have been the victims of all manner of criticism and being made fun of. It is hardly enjoyable having to deal with all of that and many fat women become affected and some become depressed. Good for them to have a community where this nonsense has no currency and they are treated as people who are worthy and acceptable and even attractive.
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These photos are of me at 300 to 305. I competed at this weight. I am not by any means skinny. But I am not fat. I have some fat obviosuly buit who cares. I am NOT a bodybuilder or ever said I was. I did what I did and did pretty good at it. I was training for the 2000 olympics in the Discus. I was weighing about 293 when I moved to LA to train with a coach who saw me train in Hawaii. I was throwing 196' then with 2 years to train. My goal weight was 275. I was riding my bike 28 miles a day at least 3 to 4 days a week. At 8am I would ride to the gym which was 7 miles from my house which included some of the biggest hills in the area. Not a flat ride. Then I would go back to the gym at 4pm. That is 28 miles. On weekends I had a truck tire I filled with cement and would tie a rope around my waist and pull the tire around Diamond Head in Honolulu. I was in the best cardio shape I have been in. I was still benching 500 and could still put my leg behind my head and do full splits. Then when I moved to LA within 2 months I got bit by the spider. For five years my leg was so painful I could barely walk. Every month my I would get a 102 degree temperture and shiver, my calf would swell up to 31", get so red you could not touch it, the skin would peel and I would leak water from my calf. This literally happened every month for the first 5 years. It would get so bad I would spend 4 to 5 hours in my bathtub with the hottest water cause I could not walk. As the years gone by it has gotten better. 3 years ago I spent christmas and new years (2 weeks) in the hospital cause my leg swelled to 32" and just wouldn't go down. From my weaked immune system now I get sick when before I never got sick. I have gotten gout 3 times. I just got hypoxia and pneumonia. So if you think I wanted to get fat and sloppy you are kidding yourself. I made great money with my body the way it was. I was not a fitness king or a skinny guy or bodybuilder. I was a guy who when I walked into just about any business or place people would look and ask me what football team I played for or how much I bench or can I feel your muscles. I was never called fat. I am trying to lose it and get back into decent shape. It is taking way longer than I thought cause shit happens along the way. I can't control that. So go ahead make fun of me being fat. But I was not always fat. These are not excuses. I have none. These are just the facts and in some way have affected me mentally where I sometime lose my drive.
What type of spider was it?
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Cheers, James.
Yes, when fat people have weight loss surgery they usually lose heaps of weight. Some regain that afterwards. It isn't as simple as everyone thinks.
Again, the ones that regain the weight are the ones that indulge in gluttony. It IS that simple.
The smart ones are those that learn from their previous mistake and watch their weight by tweaking their diet and exercising. See our very own Newmom, for example.
Mind you, like Van B pointed out, some people resort to eating as a form of stress relief when they're feeling really low, so the motivations behind the eating habits / weight gain varies from person to person. But what is universal and common to all the fatties is their gorging on food to an extreme degree.
Different people have different ways of coping with stress - the weaker, LAZIER ones find solace in eating, cause on top of indulging themselves, the added weight also makes it easier for them to feel more sorry for themselves, so they can let go of themselves even more.
I have no interest in posting in another forum, esp. to further a campaign like this, but I know that if I made these posts there, the members would put up a united front of resistance and flood me with tons of medical literature, case studies, emotional stories and other excuses and rationalizations, all of which will still not successfully nullify the fact that
They are all obese because they all eat like pigs, period ;D
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Kiwi, that is a sad post coming from a bloke who has a brain. You aren't very tolerant, are you? How about all the indigious people in NZ and the islands? Do you call them fatties and ridicule them?
You don't have to go to another forum but you can do something to educate yourself and not be such a thickhead when it comes to fat people. I was on that forum for years so had to hold back this stuff that you think is so sensible and scientific. I am telling you that obesity is a complicated phenomenon and not as simple as your overeating explanation would have it.
They don't have to overeat to get bigger. Read the literature and discover that fat people have different mechanisms and those would be an advantage in times of scarcity. We have a lifestyle that makes gaining fat easy for these people. Our supermarkets and fast food outlets contribute to making food tasty and easy to eat. When you combine everything you find that some people put on fat while others eating the same portions do not. How do you explain that? If you actually listen to fat people you will change your mind about obesity. Oh, down deep you will always suspect that your science is the real explanation and too many calories are consumed. A warning: don't mention dieting to fat people because they are all experts at that.
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Kiwi, that is a sad post coming from a bloke who has a brain. You aren't very tolerant, are you?
I don't hate fat people nor am I intolerant of them. Just saying that I don't buy all the excuses they make for looking the way they do or their eating habits.
A lot of people today have a tendency to portray themselves as victims and fat people are especially notorious for that behavior. Sure, there are exceptions - there always are, but the majority of the people who are obese did let themselves go and continue to live a lifestyle that makes them be that way or get worse.
Addictions aren't easy to overcome and old habits die hard, but that doesn't mean they are helpless or victims or anything. There are tons (pardon the pun) of former fatties who decided to change their lifestyle and lost the blubber the hard way - exercising and proper dieting. My point is that over 95% of the obese people out there can do the same, which most of them, of course, won't.
Not saying it's easy or simple, but it can be done. No one will weigh 500+ pounds if they eat 1200 - 1500 calories or less from a "clean" diet everyday.
Our supermarkets and fast food outlets contribute to making food tasty and easy to eat. When you combine everything you find that some people put on fat while others eating the same portions do not. How do you explain that?
Simple - the amount that they eat makes all the difference. It's the same as people who drink casually or socially vs chronic alcoholics - they both shop at the same venue that offers them the same choices and range of products, but the former draw a line and limit their consumption while the latter let themselves go and drown in that stuff.
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I don't hate fat people nor am I intolerant of them. Just saying that I don't buy all the excuses they make for looking the way they do or their eating habits.
A lot of people today have a tendency to portray themselves as victims and fat people are especially notorious for that behavior. Sure, there are exceptions - there always are, but the majority of the people who are obese did let themselves go and continue to live a lifestyle that makes them be that way or get worse.
Addictions aren't easy to overcome and old habits die hard, but that doesn't mean they are helpless or victims or anything. There are tons (pardon the pun) of former fatties who decided to change their lifestyle and lost the blubber the hard way - exercising and proper dieting. My point is that over 95% of the obese people out there can do the same, which most of them, of course, won't.
Not saying it's easy or simple, but it can be done. No one will weigh 500+ pounds if they eat 1200 - 1500 calories or less from a "clean" diet everyday.
Simple - the amount that they eat makes all the difference. It's the same as people who drink casually or socially vs chronic alcoholics - they both shop at the same venue that offers them the same choices and range of products, but the former draw a line and limit their consumption while the latter let themselves go and drown in that stuff.
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You are still lumping fat people together and trying to explain the obesity. If we set aside the excuses and explanations provided by the obese population you still have a problem trying to explain all the obesity. When scientists study these people they discover that things aren't as simple as they imagined. There are mechanisms that fat people have that make it easy for them to gain weight and almost impossible for them to lose it permanently. The success rate for fat people dieting is something less than 5%. In other words, 95% of people who diet regain that weight or more after 2 years. That is a fact and a very challenge to all the musclemen who think they know it all. That program The Biggest Loser is a pathetic view of obesity and how to reverse it. I wouldn't give those exercises to my members who are trying to lose fat. It is amazing the ignorance of the people who produced that show. Their instructors are knuckleheads, too, and give the fat people really stupid things to do. I guess it makes good TV. Well, I don't watch that show because of all the foolishness involved.
As more research is done on fat populations things are discovered which takes some of the blame away from them. They are motivated not to be really fat but get that way, anyway, despite their best efforts. If you worked in a gym and had these members as clients you would soon change your mind about protocols and ideas that will reverse the obesity.
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Keith, if you were throwing the discus about 60 metres that is an impressive throw. My best was just over 44 metres so what you did was way out there. You need a lot of power and great technique to get it near 200 feet. You have to be quick and very coordinated. Of course, improving and representing the USA is another thing altogether but good for you to have had a go. Damn those dangerous brown recluse spiders.
The thing is I had no idea anything about the Discus when I started. In fact I had a mail order catalog and called them up. The guy was asking me all kinds of questions like what material, what weight, what thickness, what diameter, rubber, metal/wood etc. I had no idea what to say. I told the guy I wanted to try out for the 2000 Olympics and give me whatever I need to do that. So he sent me numerous versions including several rubber ones. I used to have a bag that carried one that I kept with me as much as I could. I was also trying the shotput. That lasted only a short while. I just could not get that down. And I used to train at the YMCA and at the entrance was a lap pool you could see at check in. It is exactly 75' which at the time was the World Record. I just saw how far that was and I just felt I could never do it so I quit that and concentrated on the discus. At the time I think an East German held the record at 234'. I had two years to add another 40' onto my throw so it looked good.
I used to train at Kalani High. When I first started I did the old time way. Then I saw the UCLA track and field championships on TV and saw how they would spin. So I practiced spinning and man my throw went up dramatically. The farthest I measured was 196'. Depending how hard I tried I was almost always over 185'. I took a tape ,measure and measured out on the grass and took a little gas to kill the grass. Not exact but close. A track coach from LA saw me training several times he said as he was in Hawaii on vacation and saw me. he said he watched me several times and said I had great potential. He asked me what college I went to and all sorts of stuff and I said I didn't go to college and I am just starting. That really seemed to fire him up. he said if I move to LA he would train me as he had a few other track athletes he trained for the Olympics. So I moved and two months later got bit and that ended everything
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Anyone who can throw a 2 Kg discus over 150 feet is a damn good athlete. No question about that at all. So, if you were throwing over 185 regularly you were a natural superman because that is a hell of a long way to throw that implement.
What a pity you never got a chance to see how far you could throw. It would have been a thrill to get one over 200 feet. Heck, if anyone can throw the woman's discus that far they are a champion. It weighs only 1 Kg.
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You are still lumping fat people together and trying to explain the obesity. If we set aside the excuses and explanations provided by the obese population you still have a problem trying to explain all the obesity. When scientists study these people they discover that things aren't as simple as they imagined. There are mechanisms that fat people have that make it easy for them to gain weight and almost impossible for them to lose it permanently. The success rate for fat people dieting is something less than 5%. In other words, 95% of people who diet regain that weight or more after 2 years. That is a fact and a very challenge to all the musclemen who think they know it all. That program The Biggest Loser is a pathetic view of obesity and how to reverse it. I wouldn't give those exercises to my members who are trying to lose fat. It is amazing the ignorance of the people who produced that show. Their instructors are knuckleheads, too, and give the fat people really stupid things to do. I guess it makes good TV. Well, I don't watch that show because of all the foolishness involved.
As more research is done on fat populations things are discovered which takes some of the blame away from them. They are motivated not to be really fat but get that way, anyway, despite their best efforts. If you worked in a gym and had these members as clients you would soon change your mind about protocols and ideas that will reverse the obesity.
I agree some of the obese do have a genuine medical condition that doesn't allow them to shed the fat easily. But there are also a lot of obese people who are fat simply because they can't restrain themselves when it comes to food. This latter group of people then bunch themselves with the ones who have the real problem and make it appear like they too have a condition that is beyond their control.
The success rate among them when it comes to weight loss is so low because of multiple factors, including, but not restricted to,
1) Their having little will power and commitment to lose the fat, which takes a long time to accomplish and entails giving up on their addiction i.e. food
2) Their giving up too early due to the above reason, as well as the fact that they don't see any noticeable difference in their weight loss after sticking with the new, "difficult" diet for a while, which discourages them to give up and depresses them enough to revert to their old eating habits
3) They get desensitized to their condition and accept it, which is easily accomplished by teaming up with other fatties, who become a support group and a refuge where they can indulge in their habits without any guilt.
The number of obese people has risen sharply in the last couple of decades, with the increasing availability of fast food and the range of snacks plus the different venues you can get them from. That is no co-incidence or even a correlation - it's a direct causation. They eat more, more often and get fatter. Again, not all of them, but definitely most of them. The number of fatties with genuine medical problems can't have just risen dramatically out of the blue for no reason.
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I agree some of the obese do have a genuine medical condition that doesn't allow them to shed the fat easily. But there are also a lot of obese people who are fat simply because they can't restrain themselves when it comes to food. This latter group of people then bunch themselves with the ones who have the real problem and make it appear like their condition is beyond their control.
The success rate among them when it comes to weight loss is so low because of multiple factors, including, but not restricted to,
1) Their having little will power and the commitment to lose the fat, which takes a long time to accomplish and entails giving up on their addiction i.e. food
2) Their giving up too early due to the above reason, as well as the fact that they don't see any noticeable difference in their weight loss after sticking with the new, "difficult" diet for a while, which discourages them to give up and depresses them enough to revert to their old eating habits
3) They get desensitized to their condition and accept it, which is easily accomplished by teaming up with other fatties, who become a support group and a refuge where they can indulge in their habits without any guilt.
The number of obese people has risen sharply in the last couple of decades, with the increasing availability of fast food and the range of snacks plus the different venues you can get them from. That is no co-incidence or even a correlation - it's a direct causation. They eat more, more often and get fatter. Again, not all of them, but definitely most of them. The number of fatties with genuine medical problems can't have just risen dramatically out of the blue for no reason.
Welcome back Old Kiwiol!! :D
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Welcome back Old Kiwiol!! :D
Haha that's enough serious posts from me for a while! Back to trolling now ;D
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Haha that's enough serious posts from me for a while! Back to trolling now ;D
I didn't read it, was it a good one?
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I didn't read it, was it a good one?
I'd give it a 3/10 ;D
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Have you read the study done through a university where they tried to keep fat people on a calorie restricted diet for several months? These people were closely monitored and as a group they all lost a lot of weight. Months after the end of the experiment these people still had their systems in a semi starvation mode and the tendency of the body was to store fat to cope with future shortages. So the fat people were doomed re keeping that weight off. It had nothing to do with will power, etc.
Compare that to the other part of the study where skinny people were fattened for months and everyone gained a significant amount of weight. After the experiment was over these people were tested and most had lost the extra weight and their systems were back to normal.
If this experiment is fair dinkum then it partly explains why fat people gain weight but can't lose it. All the will power in the world can't defeat how these people are wired. They are good at using food so they store the extra. When they diet they switch on the starvation mode and it further slows their metabolism and affects them so that they are not as active. Imagine having to deal with a mechanism like that. Oh, it is easy to take the stereotypical view of fat people and suggest they are lazy and let themselves go. That isn't what science has discovered.
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What kind of spider bit you? That shit is no effing joke. I hadn't seen those pics in awhile
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What kind of spider bit you? That shit is no effing joke. I hadn't seen those pics in awhile
Brown Recluse. This photo is not my leg but it is almost exactly what mine looked like after they cut off the blister and scrapped it
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Have you read the study done through a university where they tried to keep fat people on a calorie restricted diet for several months? These people were closely monitored and as a group they all lost a lot of weight. Months after the end of the experiment these people still had their systems in a semi starvation mode and the tendency of the body was to store fat to cope with future shortages. So the fat people were doomed re keeping that weight off. It had nothing to do with will power, etc.
Compare that to the other part of the study where skinny people were fattened for months and everyone gained a significant amount of weight. After the experiment was over these people were tested and most had lost the extra weight and their systems were back to normal.
If this experiment is fair dinkum then it partly explains why fat people gain weight but can't lose it. All the will power in the world can't defeat how these people are wired. They are good at using food so they store the extra. When they diet they switch on the starvation mode and it further slows their metabolism and affects them so that they are not as active. Imagine having to deal with a mechanism like that. Oh, it is easy to take the stereotypical view of fat people and suggest they are lazy and let themselves go. That isn't what science has discovered.
You have a small point re "wiring". However, you are still missing the main point. They all lose weight when they restrict calories. They gain weight only when they overeat. The fatter you are the faster you lose weight initially, which shows there's nothing wrong with their metabolic rate. In fact, fat people have faster metabolisms than skinny people, simply because the bigger you are the more calories you require to maintain that weight. There is usually nothing wrong with thyroid hormones for example.
Some people have set-points that fight them... but the fight is in controlling appetite. Fat people have problems maintaining weight loss not because their metabolisms slow down but because they can't maintain a lower calorie intake. Research has shown that this "set-point" only adjusts upward and never downward which means it's important to not get obese in the first place. Get really fat and the body will not want to maintain a "skinny" state again, or at least it wont be as easy than if you never got fat in the first place.
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Ugh... I clicked on that Dimensions site and found crap like this!
.... Since I am it... how many of you would hit this? She has a nice face, but ugh... just too much.
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Ugh... I clicked on that Dimensions site and found crap like this!
.... Since I am it... how many of you would hit this? She has a nice face, but ugh... just too much.
I like a big booty, that that... :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X. And then she has the gunt that is a combo-dunlap :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X. ewwwwwwww!
A date with her is going to the the local buffet, and watching her clear house!!!!
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Imagine is someone wrote about characteristics and behaviour of bodybuilders. What is the chance they would be accurate and fair to all of us? Zero. Bodybuilders are not a population of similar individuals so any analysis is bound to fail.
How come a few resident experts have no trouble describing what fat people are like and how they feel? That is not possible because they are as varied as bodybuilders. Just because they are fat doesn't mean they behave the same or feel the same. How the heck would any of you know how fat people feel about themselves? You guys know nothing about fat people yet write critically because you have the typical prejudices and ignorance of muscleheads. Do some research and get educated instead of fostering hate and loathing on others.
I like the way guys who supposedly hate fat women have no problem downloading images to their computers. If the goal is to embarrass or humiliate these fat women then that is not a nice thing to do. Appreciating large women is not a perversion but just another sexual preference.
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Imagine is someone wrote about characteristics and behaviour of bodybuilders. What is the chance they would be accurate and fair to all of us? Zero. Bodybuilders are not a population of similar individuals so any analysis is bound to fail.
How come a few resident experts have no trouble describing what fat people are like and how they feel? That is not possible because they are as varied as bodybuilders. Just because they are fat doesn't mean they behave the same or feel the same. How the heck would any of you know how fat people feel about themselves? You guys know nothing about fat people yet write critically because you have the typical prejudices and ignorance of muscleheads. Do some research and get educated instead of fostering hate and loathing on others.
I like the way guys who supposedly hate fat women have no problem downloading images to their computers. If the goal is to embarrass or humiliate these fat women then that is not a nice thing to do. Appreciating large women is not a perversion but just another sexual preference.
To pervert the view that larger women should be accepted is just wrong. This woman could be healthier losing 200-250 pounds. Think about her qualit of life. Furthermore the men who find them atractive tend to be skinny guys who are insecure with attractive women. Women who cannot more or just stay in one place and eat are more "attractive" because there is less competition. Which is odd, because why don't these guys gain 500 pounds? Well, that would be hard work, and they don't want to look like that. That there shows that that there is a control issue.
Most in shape peopl are attracted to those who are in shape.
being this fat plays with a woman's hormones and if pregnant can cause issues with the baby (fetus).
And yes, fat people as a group tend to have similar mindsets, that's how they got fat. In order to gain big muscle, one has to lift weights in that area ( and yes on the pro level take drugs). In order to get fat, one has to eat ons of food, particularly carbs and expend less energy. There is no real battle of the bulge, but the battle to push yourself from the table when you are full. The battle to go out and walk, the battle to take in less than you expend. The battle to not listen to your metabolism, but listen to the commerical on TV Now, there could be underlying issues--that food is comfort, but still the actions are the same for basically all fat people. There is a balance, and this, yes like bbing exemplifies the "extreme".
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This thread got real good. Kiwi being rational and Vince being emotional. The melting point on 'emotional' is now proven to be lower. ;D
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The good doctor reduced to playing the clown on Getbig. Congratulations.
The arguments against fat people are stereotypical and not at all scientific. Self-styled obesity experts should get educated before blabbing on discussion boards. They don't know the fat people yet feel entitled to speak about them.
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So the whole 'fat is beautiful' campaign is a load of crap and one that applies only to a very small percentage of the population that's statistically insignificant -
You use the term "statistically insignificant" wrong. This term is used in inferential statistics when a sample of some population does not give you a basis for concluding something about the population (effects of treatments, relationships between variables, differences in different populations and so on).
What you are probably trying to say is simply that a very small proportion of the general population is attracted to fat people, (and I think you are right, fatties are disgusting, hehe)
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They don't know the fat people yet feel entitled to speak about them.
We know one! ;D
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You use the term "statistically insignificant" wrong. This term is used in inferential statistics when a sample of some population does not give you a basis for concluding something about the population (effects of treatments, relationships between variables, differences in different populations and so on).
I wasn't referring to Vince's immediate post I'd quoted there so much. In fact, he's quite right when he says admirers of fat people (as in those who have a sexual attraction towards obese individuals) are a minority. I was talking about some of the campaigns the fatties come up with, such as the one in which they claim their group is (or at least, ought to be) just as appreciated and appealing to the general public as those who are "normal", as well as other crap like saying they should be referred to as plus size individuals (or whatever the politically correct term is that is currently acceptable to them) and not fat, and so on.
Point being that IMO, the number of people who find those whales sexually attractive comprise a very small percentage of the overall population and therefore, aren't exactly setting a trend that is fairly widespread and typical of the average person - as you've rightly pointed out.
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Whether fat women are viewed as sexually attractive is irrelevant to how they should be perceived and treated. They have been persecuted and humiliated for far too long by all and sundry. Fat jokes should be seen as inappropriate.
My point is the stereotypes about fat people are prejudiced and misinformed. Even the uneducated musclehead feels he is an expert on body composition so blames fat people for their condition. They have no idea what is involved. They merely default to assumptions that fat people get fat by consuming too many calories. From that premise then conclude fat people are pigs and eat way too much. Where is their evidence for these allegations? They have nothing but continue to argue as if they are knowledgeable experts.
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The good doctor reduced to playing the clown on Getbig. Congratulations.
The arguments against fat people are stereotypical and not at all scientific. Self-styled obesity experts should get educated before blabbing on discussion boards. They don't know the fat people yet feel entitled to speak about them.
You mean like you using the word 'dieting' when you should be using terms like 'behavioural changes!?' C'mon, Vince, it's obvious your emotional and sexual response to these larger women is driving your argument. Nothing wrong with that, if that's your thing, but don't try to claim any moral high ground under some pseudo-scientific guise. ;)
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Whether fat women are viewed as sexually attractive is irrelevant to how they should be perceived and treated. They have been persecuted and humiliated for far too long by all and sundry. Fat jokes should be seen as inappropriate.
My point is the stereotypes about fat people are prejudiced and misinformed. Even the uneducated musclehead feels he is an expert on body composition so blames fat people for their condition. They have no idea what is involved. They merely default to assumptions that fat people get fat by consuming too many calories. From that premise then conclude fat people are pigs and eat way too much. Where is their evidence for these allegations? They have nothing but continue to argue as if they are knowledgeable experts.
Persecuted? Humiliated? Please give examples.
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INCOMMING!!!!!!
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You mean like you using the word 'dieting' when you should be using terms like 'behavioural changes!?' C'mon, Vince, it's obvious your emotional and sexual response to these larger women is driving your argument. Nothing wrong with that, if that's your thing, but don't try to claim any moral high ground under some pseudo-scientific guise. ;)
Are you joining the discussion or doing your usual putdown of whatever others are discussing? I use the word 'diet' which can be substituted for weight loss diet because that is what most people think when seeing this word.
What is driving my arguments is a long term association and interaction with fat people. When I see others spewing the same biased crap towards and about them I have to speak out. Of course, it will seem like I am defending the fat population and that is fine with me.
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They merely default to assumptions that fat people get fat by consuming too many calories. From that premise then conclude fat people are pigs and eat way too much. Where is their evidence for these allegations? They have nothing but continue to argue as if they are knowledgeable experts.
So what makes you an expert? What are your credentials in this area? What research have you been involved in personally?
And what is your explanation for the vast number of morbidly obese people in the US for example, compared to many other countries? If not food intake (and food availability), then what?
I'm in Sweden. My friend was in the states recently and I asked him if he saw many fat people, people riding those motorized shopping carts at Walmart because they are so fat, etc, and he said yes, there were a lot of extremely fat people. You don't see that here. Why? What is the reason?
Is it something in the air they breathe mutating their DNA? Chemicals in the drinking water wrecking their thyroids? What?
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funny that a place like getbig, that worhips morbidly obese people (bodybuilders) would want to abuse other morbidly obese people
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I am not an expert but I have listened to fat people and debated with them. I had to correct many of my assumptions about obesity. Those of us who bodybuild think we know how to manage body composition and for young males that probably works. However, it is quite another matter dealing with the obese population and not at all easy to reverse obesity.
Many people have tried to account for the obesity epidemic in some western countries. The USA surely leads the world but apparently Australia is up there as well. I don't see widespread obesity in Australia compared to what I have seen in some American cities. With a huge population like America you find more extremes and thus observe some really fat people when you are shopping. Sweden has a different culture where physical shape and condition are more important. In addition, living up north requires more calories to maintain body heat and thus prevents obesity in those countries. Canadians are not as obese as Americans and you can see that difference comparing Vancouver to Seattle. What exactly causes so many to get so big? Well, that isn't difficult to specify. What is more interesting is who are the people who get obese? Do they have some genetic 'advantage' that is behind obesity? I think we will find that there are many factors combining to explain this phenomenon.
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I don't like to see photos of fat women eating a lot of food. There are some guys called feeders who like the idea of women gorging themselves so some fat models take photos to please these customers. Outsiders don't see that and find the whole thing disgusting.
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Hey Basile, hypothetical situation, you are out taking photos and you have only one picture left on your film. You see a group of shirtless speedo wearing preteen lads and a group of 500 pound Sheila's, whose pic do you take?
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I am not an expert but I have listened to fat people and debated with them. I had to correct many of my assumptions about obesity. Those of us who bodybuild think we know how to manage body composition and for young males that probably works. However, it is quite another matter dealing with the obese population and not at all easy to reverse obesity.
Many people have tried to account for the obesity epidemic in some western countries. The USA surely leads the world but apparently Australia is up there as well. I don't see widespread obesity in Australia compared to what I have seen in some American cities. With a huge population like America you find more extremes and thus observe some really fat people when you are shopping. Sweden has a different culture where physical shape and condition are more important. In addition, living up north requires more calories to maintain body heat and thus prevents obesity in those countries. Canadians are not as obese as Americans and you can see that difference comparing Vancouver to Seattle. What exactly causes so many to get so big? Well, that isn't difficult to specify. What is more interesting is who are the people who get obese? Do they have some genetic 'advantage' that is behind obesity? I think we will find that there are many factors combining to explain this phenomenon.
If you say that fat or obese people have something wrong hormonally in their bodies that makes it easier from them to get to that condition, what is it?
I have to ask a couple of questions too:
1. Why is this obesity problem only prevalent on some countries in the world, especially in the USA, but it doesn't happen in other parts of the world? Are people really that different or are the eating and lifestyle habits what is different?
2. When you look at the north american society before the 1970's or so, there were very little obesity problems. What caused the sudden change in some people? Something magically changed in their bodies hormonal system or did the eating/lifestyle habits change?
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Hey Basile, hypothetical situation, you are out taking photos and you have only one picture left on your film. You see a group of shirtless speedo wearing preteen lads and a group of 500 pound Sheila's, whose pic do you take?
LMFAO!
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I don't like to see photos of fat women eating a lot of food. There are some guys called feeders who like the idea of women gorging themselves so some fat models take photos to please these customers. Outsiders don't see that and find the whole thing disgusting.
Hmm. Like Assley from BigCuties.Com (who delivers quality!!) that you posted up the previous page!? Quite a prominent pic of her demolishing some great amount of food. Look, if bigger gals are your thing - fine. I think the resistance you're getting here is because your pissing on people's legs and trying to persuade us it's raining.
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There was a study done on the Pima Indians of Arizona. Apparently they are related to a tribe of Indians in Mexico and comparisons have been made between the groups to show the contribution of the lifestyle to health and obesity. The Pima Indians have become well to do because of casinos on reserves and this wealth has contributed to all manner of health problems including obesity, diabetes, heart disease and mortality. The related tribe in Mexico do not have any wealth and live primitively compared to their American relatives. The Mexican group work long and hard for a subsistence existence. There are no cars and modern conveniences. Obesity is unknown and diabetes and heart disease rare.
I haven't seen the actual study but many conclude that the American plentiful lifestyle and lack of exercise contribute to their health problems. The Pima have the genes for diabetes but it doesn't present unless environmental factors combine to allow it. The obesity brings heart disease as well.
I suppose in this community is what we find in the USA as a whole. Where lifestyles combine with plenty you find obesity and the related health problems.
What is of interest to Getbiggers is why not everyone gets obese living similar lifestyles. The Getbig explanation is gorging to excess and being lazy and inactive leads to obesity.
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Hmm. Like Assley from BigCuties.Com (who delivers quality!!) that you posted up the previous page!? Quite a prominent pic of her demolishing some great amount of food. Look, if bigger gals are your thing - fine. I think the resistance you're getting here is because your pissing on people's legs and trying to persuade us it's raining.
Your analysis here is way off the mark. If I post a photo of Carla it is to promote her website and not to embarrass her.
The resident experts including Dr Chimps are totally uninformed about the issue of obesity from the perspective of the fat people. I would have thought some reading into that information would be required before pontificating about something you know almost nothing about.
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Your analysis here is way off the mark. If I post a photo of Carla it is to promote her website and not to embarrass her.
The resident experts including Dr Chimps are totally uninformed about the issue of obesity from the perspective of the fat people. I would have thought some reading into that information would be required before pontificating about something you know almost nothing about.
Oh brother. You don't have a clue, do you?
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You are so condescending. I swear you have become a bona fide asshole from hanging around this forum. That is something I am certain about.
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There was a study done on the Pima Indians of Arizona. Apparently they are related to a tribe of Indians in Mexico and comparisons have been made between the groups to show the contribution of the lifestyle to health and obesity. The Pima Indians have become well to do because of casinos on reserves and this wealth has contributed to all manner of health problems including obesity, diabetes, heart disease and mortality. The related tribe in Mexico do not have any wealth and live primitively compared to their American relatives. The Mexican group work long and hard for a subsistence existence. There are no cars and modern conveniences. Obesity is unknown and diabetes and heart disease rare.
I haven't seen the actual study but many conclude that the American plentiful lifestyle and lack of exercise contribute to their health problems. The Pima have the genes for diabetes but it doesn't present unless environmental factors combine to allow it. The obesity brings heart disease as well.
I suppose in this community is what we find in the USA as a whole. Where lifestyles combine with plenty you find obesity and the related health problems.
What is of interest to Getbiggers is why not everyone gets obese living similar lifestyles. The Getbig explanation is gorging to excess and being lazy and inactive leads to obesity.
I haven't seen the actual study but many conclude that the American plentiful lifestyle and lack of exercise contribute to their health problems.
This study you mentioned is showing exactly what I was trying to say. This lifestyle change, eating habits and lack of exercise are the major contributors for the obesity problems.
I can understand your point that some people have it easier becoming obese because of some hormonal problems in their bodies. But how can you be certain they are living lifestyles exactly the same as people who don't have this problem?
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You are so condescending. I swear you have become a bona fide asshole from hanging around this forum. That is something I am certain about.
I think you need to download a self-awareness firmware upgrade, Vince. You're now embarrassing yourself. :-\
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Vince is a fat slob and likes to fuck a fat slob. You try to make excuses about being a fat pig and how it's ok when at the end of the day it just shows your lack of willpower is sickening
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You can dress it up and rationalize it in as many ways as you want - I'm sure the fatties in the other forum do that all the time to justify their looks and eating habits.
BUT,
The bottom line is that if you took all the fat people out there and put them on a restricted calorie diet that is strictly enforced,
1) They will ALL lose weight, without an exception and
2) All of them will love and praise the way they look and feel after they've lost the weight.
There are some guys who like the way those whales look, for sure. But there are also people out there who like kids, animals, female bodybuilders that don't even look human, and even inanimate objects ranging from fruit to God knows what. So the whole 'fat is beautiful' campaign is a load of crap and one that applies only to a very small percentage of the population that's statistically insignificant - it's true, but not the reason people eat like a pig so they can end up looking like one.
All fat people, no matter how much noise they may make about feeling beautiful, have a massive inferiority complex on the inside and hate the average person who is sitting around 20% body fat or less. The ones who actually believe they are beautiful comprise a very small percentage within that bracket and might possibly do it due to some kind of mental illness or because they're light headed from not having eaten anything in the last 5 minutes.
I'm referring to obese people, BTW, not a person who is 10 - 20% bodyfat.
THIS!
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Just put my two cents in about fat women, I have no problem listening to them on the phone or seeing them across the street or wherever. In most cases they are very nice. But sexually no way could I ever be with one. I have never ever been with someone that would be considered fat. I have been very choosy when it comes to that detail. I have been with some ugly ones but their bodies made up for it and in most cases I didn't eve kiss them. Moby (my pet name given to me) has a mind of his own, but he can also see. I have been in situations where he just won't work cause the girl is not attractive enough. I do not find fat women attractive physically at all. But they can be very nice and not made fun of
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Even thick momma in the middle got airborne. What happened on the end there? Something doesn't seem right to me. Zero gravity defiance for some reason.
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LOL. I remember kiwi's comment on this diptych was that the girls didn't actually jump in the second pic, the girl at the right just pushed down on the earth. ;D
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That poor girl on the right is "gravity challenged". I think that photo is misleading. I actually think she saved all those girls lives. It looks like a huge gust of wind came and she is holding them down so they don't fly away. Good for her. She should be recognized as a hero. ;D
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i find it sickening that these lard asses eat so much food without a second thought about all of the starving people in africa, south america etc.
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That poor girl on the right is "gravity challenged". I think that photo is misleading. I actually think she saved all those girls lives. It looks like a huge gust of wind came and she is holding them down so they don't fly away. Good for her. She should be recognized as a hero. ;D
Oh, I get it....she's the "anchor" .... ;)
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LOL. I remember kiwi's comment on this diptych was that the girls didn't actually jump in the second pic, the girl at the right just pushed down on the earth. ;D
Can't believe I missed that! ;D
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You can get fat really gradually by not really overeating. That is the point. Just normal meals yet some people store fat from eating the same portions. If you eat 25 extra calories a day for a year you can be about 3 pounds heavier. If you do this for 10 years you gain about 30 pounds. The point is this isn't overeating. You can get fat over a period of time by not eating that much more than you need. Certainly your body doesn't regulate your bodyweight to any precise degree.
You make it sound like huge weight gain can be so accidental, but I don’t agree. Your 25 calorie example is misleading because you would have to be extremely sedentary to have that extra potato chip theory to work. By the time you are 30 lbs heavier, your BMR maintenance requirement is almost 200 calories more per day since 10 years ago. You may say that’s not too significant, but that’s just if you spent every day in bed. You are also going to have to consume an additional amount of calories to maintain that 30 extra lbs If your activity level doesn’t change throughout the decade. This can be substantial if you’re very active, perhaps close to 50% or more the amount than what you normally would of ate 10 years ago!
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I think you need to download a self-awareness firmware upgrade, Vince. You're now embarrassing yourself. :-\
You can disguise your nastiness but to me you are still a prick. I hope this helps.
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I think you need to download a self-awareness firmware upgrade, Vince. You're now embarrassing yourself. :-\
You can disguise your nastiness but are still a prick.
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This study you mentioned is showing exactly what I was trying to say. This lifestyle change, eating habits and lack of exercise are the major contributors for the obesity problems.
I can understand your point that some people have it easier becoming obese because of some hormonal problems in their bodies. But how can you be certain they are living lifestyles exactly the same as people who don't have this problem?
The explanations for obesity omit reports from the obese population. When scientists do in depth studies they don't find fault with them like Getbiggers do. That is my point. We should listen to fat people and not impose our theories of weight loss because we really don't know what we are talking about. The theories work on bodybuilders and young men but not so well on obese subjects.
Everyone accepts that in most cases of large people the causes are excess calories. Some have complications and part of that may be aggravated by obesity. Once obesity takes over in a body the problems get compounded for sure. Sooner or later health issues present and they are usually serious problems.
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All getbiggers that are not schmoes must join the cause.
http://www.dimensionsmagazine.com/forums/index.php
That is a forum for fatties to console and comfort eachother for being over weight. They are trying to get shit like anti-weight discrimination laws passed. They see nothing wrong at being fat and actually encourage it.
You need to register on that site, and spam links on there to the 'Fat people's lack of willpower is sickening' thread over here on getbig. I did it but I got banned.
you must have wonderful self esteem.......why would you sit and pick on people that have issues with weight.......you are an insecure prick......imho
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Just put my two cents in about fat women, I have no problem listening to them on the phone or seeing them across the street or wherever. In most cases they are very nice. But sexually no way could I ever be with one. I have never ever been with someone that would be considered fat. I have been very choosy when it comes to that detail. I have been with some ugly ones but their bodies made up for it and in most cases I didn't eve kiss them. Moby (my pet name given to me) has a mind of his own, but he can also see. I have been in situations where he just won't work cause the girl is not attractive enough. I do not find fat women attractive physically at all. But they can be very nice and not made fun of
The fact that you don't find fat women attractive doesn't mean that no one does or should. Let us reverse that for a moment. Do you think women find your body attactive? Well, some might but are the majority wrong because they don't fancy fat men?
I think men pride themselves via the partners they fuck or are seen with. This stops many from going with women outside the acceptable range.
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you must have wonderful self esteem.......why would you sit and pick on people that have issues with weight.......you are an insecure prick......imho
all fat supporters will be executed just the same as the fatties in the fatcentration camps....
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You make it sound like huge weight gain can be so accidental, but I don’t agree. Your 25 calorie example is misleading because you would have to be extremely sedentary to have that extra potato chip theory to work. By the time you are 30 lbs heavier, your BMR maintenance requirement is almost 200 calories more per day since 10 years ago. You may say that’s not too significant, but that’s just if you spent every day in bed. You are also going to have to consume an additional amount of calories to maintain that 30 extra lbs If your activity level doesn’t change throughout the decade. This can be substantial if you’re very active, perhaps close to 50% or more the amount than what you normally would of ate 10 years ago!
I gave an extreme example to show how weight can creep up and one not be accused of overeating. Getbiggers reverse that and claim that if you are fat you overate. That isn't always true.
Yes, as people get heavier their basal metabolism requires more energy. That, too, will be a gradual thing and the argument still holds.
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You can disguise your nastiness but are still a prick.
You've said it twice: I'm a 'prick.' Any other posts you could note that I've (personally) insulted you?
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fat people are too tired to fight.
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All fat people do not have a massive inferiority complex. Read Dimensions and see for yourself. This is just another stereotype muscleheads believe to make themselves feel better.
To the guy who is upset that fat people are eating too much while people are starving in the world. I guess that means bodybuilding is unethical for the same reason. Guys eat enough to support 2 or 3 people in third world countries.
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translation: Vince thinks its cool to be fat
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You've said it twice: I'm a 'prick.' Any other posts you could note that I've (personally) insulted you?
You are supposed to have a PhD and I respect you for that. I don't respect when you keep correcting my posts and think you are superior. You seldom debate with me but are ever ready for the smart putdown. Your stance is always the professor lecturing to the student.
Surely you can't be oblivous to what you are doing!
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Vince and Doc, you guys ever see the Australian film Feed? I just bought it, it's about force feeding, weird movie. Was a big hit over there?
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You are supposed to have a PhD and I respect you for that. I don't respect when you keep correcting my posts and think you are superior. You seldom debate with me but are ever ready for the smart putdown. Your stance is always the professor lecturing to the student.
Surely you can't be oblivous to what you are doing!
LOL...sounds familiar, Basile....take some of your own advices sometime...
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What's amazing is how this human "epidemic" started only 30 years ago, only in the Western countries that magically happen to have the most calorie dense, chemically laden, genetically modified and mass manufactured food, the largest percapita number of fast food diners and supermarkets, the highest average pf hours watching TV per day and easily the most sedentary lifestyle. Everyone drives, everyone eats like shit, everyone feels that hard work and disciple are for others, everyone feels like a victim, and everyone sits around watching the fucking tube all day. I guess it must be "genetics"... ::)
What's amazing is that large populations like India, Japan, and China that eat less processed and manufactured food, more vegetables, watch less television and usually walk or bike to get around during the day have avoided this "genetic" plague. Wow...those poor "victim" americans... ::)
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What's amazing is how this human "epidemic" started only 30 years ago, only in the Western countries that magically happen to have the most calorie dense, chemically laden, genetically modified and mass manufactured food, the largest percapita number of fast food diners and supermarkets, the highest average pf hours watching TV per day and easily the most sedentary lifestyle. Everyone drives, everyone eats like shit, everyone feels that hard work and disciple are for others, everyone feels like a victim, and everyone sits around watching the fucking tube all day. I guess it must be "genetics"... ::)
What's amazing is that large populations like India, Japan, and China that eat less processed and manufactured food, more vegetables, watch less television and usually walk or bike to get around during the day have avoided this "genetic" plague. Wow...those poor "victim" americans... ::)
I do know that the Pima study that Vince noted is similar to the South Pacific Islanders/'Eskimos' carbohydrate-restricted studies of,say, '70's-80's.
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What's amazing is how this human "epidemic" started only 30 years ago, only in the Western countries that magically happen to have the most calorie dense, chemically laden, genetically modified and mass manufactured food, the largest percapita number of fast food diners and supermarkets, the highest average pf hours watching TV per day and easily the most sedentary lifestyle. Everyone drives, everyone eats like shit, everyone feels that hard work and disciple are for others, everyone feels like a victim, and everyone sits around watching the fucking tube all day. I guess it must be "genetics"... ::)
What's amazing is that large populations like India, Japan, and China that eat less processed and manufactured food, more vegetables, watch less television and usually walk or bike to get around during the day have avoided this "genetic" plague. Wow...those poor "victim" americans... ::)
QFT
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At the same time as people were getting bigger and fatter there were more gyms. Obviously, most fat people avoid going to gyms. I own a gym and while there are overweight members we seldom see the very obese people join up. If they do they don't stay around very long. However, that is true of most new members so might not be relevant. There is a drop out of members in all gyms. People join up then miss a workout then slowly give up going.
Even the simplest student of obesity can see the relationship between lifestyle and size. When we factor in the negative attitude towards obese people how is it that women, for example, allow themselves to get fat? All the TV shows and magazines suggest that it isn't a state that many cherish and most women find themselves fighting the battle of the bulge. The truth is that most older women tend to be at least overweight.
I keep telling you that these people are not to blame and that those who get fat have different genes that make it easy for them to get fat. Those who do not have this gene can't comprehend how they can let themselves go. Well, nobody does that. Obesity creeps up on them and when it reaches a certain level it is extremely difficult to reverse.
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LOL What the hell are people thinking when they pose for a picture like that? thats too damn funny!!!
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Ok, good stuff, good stuff. I'm just going to tweak a few small points for ya.
- You have to let at least some of the audience in on the lulz. Take us along for the ride.
- Not so much with the direct insults, just get some gas on the fire. You're supposed to make the other guy melt.
- Don't use more keystrokes than the victims combined. Troll smart, not hard.
Ok places! And...
"Fat people are just lazy."
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when i see people give " this excuse and that " about how they cant lose weight and they've tried everything, i say, there where no fat people in auschwitz........
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The one issue we haven't discussed in this thread is hunger. How is it that Keith got obese? Well, he was always big as an adult so perhaps his genes gave him an advantage. Of course, Keith will swear that most of the size was solid and not slobby fat. Fast forward 10 years and how does he explain why he got fat. According to him, being fat is not desirable or welcome. Okay, he wasn't able to train but the guy knows more than Goodrum about training so how did this happen? My guess is that big bodies make the owner hungry and that feeling takes more food to quell. When fat people have weight loss surgery they also have to make sure the hunger is also reduced and that isn't always easy to do. Toss in a helping of depression and you have a recipe for morbid obesity. That is when bodyfat passes 40%. I am not attacking Keith but trying to use him as an example of how some people get really fat. It isn't always their fault. Granted that Keith was recovering from a nasty spider bite that virtually cripped him for years. Do we simply state that he overate?
Those of us who are not fat and who have to gorge themselves to add any bodyweight conclude that obese people are simply too inactive and overeat. Translated to Getbig jargon they were lazy so let themselves go and ate like pigs.
I have noticed that shopping centers catering to budget shoppers tend to have more fat people. The typical Walmart scenario. It appears that social class in important and lower classes tend to have more obese people. Whether there is also a correlation between obesity and lower intelligence is a good question. That doesn't mean that all obese people are uneducated and unintelligent. Not at all. Rich people have the resources to do something about ridding themselves of excess fat.
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I got fat because I continued to eat like I always have but I didn't train or do anything but lay around. Simple as that. I tried many many times to get to training and when I did I would get sick again and laid up so I gave up numerous times trying. So I gained a shitload of weight. Nothing more nothing less. As the years pass by I am getting to where my leg has nothing to do with anything. I very rarely have problems with,. Maybe once a year. But now because of my weakened immune system I get sick more or something else happens. I was going into my 3rd month straight until a month ago when I got pneumonia. I have not been in the gym since and now that I am better and my O2 is back up to 97% I will be in the gym again on Monday. What I did find out thought during my lifting was I still have pretty good muscle memory. I started off benching 225 for 4 to 5 to a month later getting 315 for 6 and an easy 15 with 225. My shoulder strength was the best though, And I started training legs. So I know I can get my strength back pretty quick. So in stead of me lifting I am only going to do cardio, abs and some leg work. No upper body at all until I reach a certain goal. So lets see how long I can last this time
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Amazing how my name comes out of Vince Basile's mouth about 20 times without me even posting a single word up here.... ::)
As far as the ACTUAL TITLE OF THIS THREAD is concerned, there wouldn't be support forum at all if people were a little more respectful to others.....Of course, those who make laughable excuses about their obesity should wise up and just put the time and effort into getting in shape and also ask for help.
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Of course, those who make laughable excuses about their obesity should wise up and just put the time and effort into getting in shape and also ask for help.
Take your own advice, fatty. ::)
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I got fat because I continued to eat like I always have but I didn't train or do anything but lay around. Simple as that. I tried many many times to get to training and when I did I would get sick again and laid up so I gave up numerous times trying. So I gained a shitload of weight. Nothing more nothing less. As the years pass by I am getting to where my leg has nothing to do with anything. I very rarely have problems with,. Maybe once a year. But now because of my weakened immune system I get sick more or something else happens. I was going into my 3rd month straight until a month ago when I got pneumonia. I have not been in the gym since and now that I am better and my O2 is back up to 97% I will be in the gym again on Monday. What I did find out thought during my lifting was I still have pretty good muscle memory. I started off benching 225 for 4 to 5 to a month later getting 315 for 6 and an easy 15 with 225. My shoulder strength was the best though, And I started training legs. So I know I can get my strength back pretty quick. So in stead of me lifting I am only going to do cardio, abs and some leg work. No upper body at all until I reach a certain goal. So lets see how long I can last this time
Props to you for getting back to the gym. It sounds like you know what you need to do. I don't usually vouche for supplements, but I'd recommend you try out Animal Pak vitamins - seriously. I've been taking them for almost a year, and even though I added another day to my training split, haven't gotten sick once. If I miss a couple days, I can literally feel myself getting run down. No shit.
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Props to you for getting back to the gym. It sounds like you know what you need to do. I don't usually vouche for supplements, but I'd recommend you try out Animal Pak vitamins - seriously. I've been taking them for almost a year, and even though I added another day to my training split, haven't gotten sick once. If I miss a couple days, I can literally feel myself getting run down. No shit.
thanks man, I take Centrum (2 a day). I really don't do supps. I do protein shakes sometimes. But I know I need a multiple vitamin.
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thanks man, I take buffets (2 a day). I really don't do exercise. I do protein from the tap sometimes. But I know I need a bypass.
fixed. ;D
Just fucking with ya Keith. I hope you can stay healthy enough to make some considerable progress. You have a lot of supporters here dude. good luck.