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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Sherief Shalaby on April 07, 2010, 09:37:05 AM
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nasser is 2nd :'( :'( :'( :'(again :'(
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1. LOL coleman 4th
2. no way francois beat dillet and ronnie there
3. Nasser Dwarfed wheeler
4. id have it 6. baker 5. francois 4. dillet 3. flex 2. ronnie 1. HUGE NASSER
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1. LOL coleman 4th
2. no way francois beat dillet and ronnie there
3. Nasser Dwarfed wheeler
4. id have it 6. baker 5. francois 4. dillet 3. flex 2. ronnie 1. HUGE NASSER
how come i haven't noticed you before?? ;D
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havent posted too much last couple years, but now that my life has blown up in my face ive been posting up a storm on the internet.
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I see team Nasser is still stuck in the past ::)
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Lol, and 13 years later he still finishes 2nd.
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Lol, and 13 years later he still finishes 2nd.
LOL...yes Nasser El Shit-Backy loses to the superior Wheeler..... who simply dominated the big-headed oaf
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I see team Nasser is still stuck in the past ::)
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Funny part there Sheriff is that those abs in that pic make today's pro's look silly.
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Funny part there Sheriff is that those abs in that pic make today's pro's look silly.
when you put in mind that this pic. of sandow was taken more than 100 years ago you know this guy was FREAK and clearly ahead of his time!!..
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Okay anyone who still claims they can't see much size difference between Nasser and Wheeler is just fucking blind! Even Dillet no longer looks huge when Nasser is onstage with him.
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when you put in mind that this pic. of sandow was taken more than 100 years ago you know this guy was FREAK and clearly ahead of his time!!..
Absolutely. That was a phenomenal pic.
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Also notice the name of the station is "EuroSPORT" i.e. bodybuilding is considered a "sport" :)
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I like when Nasser turns around and the announcer says "The back not really comparing with our previous, Aaron Baker" and then the silence until he turns to the front again.
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how come i haven't noticed you before?? ;D
baker? you mean Taylor.
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baker? you mean Taylor.
no the guy who was commenting said aron baker so baker's routine was immediately before nasser's!!..
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Okay anyone who still claims they can't see much size difference between Nasser and Wheeler is just fucking blind! Even Dillet no longer looks huge when Nasser is onstage with him.
Doesn't your little buddy Aladdin always say "BBing isn't just about size!!!! Look at Shawn Ray!!!!"
Nasser lacked quality muscle and detail, he was also kinda square and for as big as he was, he lacked the three-dimensional look that the truly superior bodybuilders have.
He was a ham and egger...just a very big one.
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Man Flex made him look like a fool , he rolled his eyes and walked away from Nasser as if he wasn't even worthy of comparing himself , he dominated that stage
I like when Vince did a back double biceps right in front of Nasser and the crowd with nuts
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Okay anyone who still claims they can't see much size difference between Nasser and Wheeler is just fucking blind! Even Dillet no longer looks huge when Nasser is onstage with him.
No shit, Nasser was 280, Flex was 224, but he looked better and had better detail. Flex also won the Most Muscular Award as well. Hmmm, and in 1999 when Nasser won the AC, Kevin Levrone also won the Most Muscular Award, so you can't argue that it only goes to the winner of the AC.
it's more than the amount, it's he quality. For such a big dude, he lacked quality where it counts, his back detail. Now, why is that. Was he such a egomaniac that he thought only his size counted? Did he fall into the trap of quanity over quality? Even Flex fell into later on, it sometimes claims the best and most level headed bbers.
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Man Flex made him look like a fool , he rolled his eyes and walked away from Nasser as if he wasn't even worthy of comparing himself , he dominated that stage
I like when Vince did a back double biceps right in front of Nasser and the crowd with nuts
or it could be that flex was extremly arrogant and knew how good nasser looked so he acted lik a jack ass.
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Okay anyone who still claims they can't see much size difference between Nasser and Wheeler is just fucking blind! Even Dillet no longer looks huge when Nasser is onstage with him.
See you're generalizing statements , in certain poses you would never know Nasser was the much heavier man. and you're hung up on the size like Parker just said it's quality over quantity
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I used to admire Nasser until the clown posse changed my mind for me. :(
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I used to admire Nasser until the clown posse changed my mind for me. :(
Yes yes.....Fuck Nasser El Shit-Backy and the hijacked plane he rode in on :D
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Good one bro................sound s kinda` familiar!! LOL :)
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Good one bro................sound s kinda` familiar!! LOL :)
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or it could be that flex was extremly arrogant and knew how good nasser looked so he acted lik a jack ass.
It's not arrogance if you can back it up ;)
Flex knew at his best very few people could touch him that brings with it a certain confidence but I do concede Flex was arrogant due to insecurities which he admitted himself
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LOL...yes Nasser El Shit-Backy loses to the superior Wheeler..... who simply dominated the big-headed oaf
Wheeler, the guy with the fake calves and arms and huge ego?
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Wheeler, the guy with the fake calves and arms and huge ego?
Where are the fake calves? And the syn went into the delts...
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Watched this competition on tape a few weeks ago. Top 4 all looked good.
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No shit, Nasser was 280, Flex was 224, but he looked better and had better detail. Flex also won the Most Muscular Award as well. Hmmm, and in 1999 when Nasser won the AC, Kevin Levrone also won the Most Muscular Award, so you can't argue that it only goes to the winner of the AC.
it's more than the amount, it's he quality. For such a big dude, he lacked quality where it counts, his back detail. Now, why is that. Was he such a egomaniac that he thought only his size counted? Did he fall into the trap of quanity over quality? Even Flex fell into later on, it sometimes claims the best and most level headed bbers.
So Levrone was "more muscular" than Nasser, yet lost the show, so what areas did Nasser overcome him in? Giving Wheeler and Levrone "Most Muscular" award over Nasser who is clearly more muscular is a joke. Size is one of Nasser's advantages over Levrone, so if they are saying Levrone is more muscular than Nasser then why did Nasser beat him? Unless they have a different definition for what is "more muscular?"
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I used to admire Nasser until the clown posse changed my mind for me. :(
You are a very weak man, changing your opinion on someone based on what others say :P
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Why dont you show other poses? Oh yeah, because you are biased, forgot ;)
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So Levrone was "more muscular" than Nasser, yet lost the show, so what areas did Nasser overcome him in? Giving Wheeler and Levrone "Most Muscular" award over Nasser who is clearly more muscular is a joke. Size is one of Nasser's advantages over Levrone, so if they are saying Levrone is more muscular than Nasser then why did Nasser beat him? Unless they have a different definition for what is "more muscular?"
There is a big difference muscular size and muscularity , which is why Dorian beat Haney in the muscularity round despite being 10lbs lighter
Nasser is carrying more size but it's not that dense , hard stripped muscular size , less fat less water = better muscularity
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Different show (98 olympia) but shows that Nasser's lat spread had much more width than Flex even though that's his worst bodypart!
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There is a big difference muscular size and muscularity , which is why Dorian beat Haney in the muscularity round despite being 10lbs lighter
Nasser is carrying more size but it's not that dense , hard stripped muscular size , less fat less water = better muscularity
Okay so what did he have over Levrone in 99 AC then that allowed him to overcome his apparent lack of muscularity and still win?
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Here Wheeler doesnt even look like a bodybuilder next to Nasser and Ronnie. Just doing all this cause ND likes to keep reposting pics of Wheeler's strongest pose vs. Nasser's weakest pose as his "unbiased" comparison lol
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Different show (98 olympia) but shows that Nasser's lat spread had more width than Flex even though that's his worst bodypart!
He should have more width he's much heavier and width means what? he has no depth to his back , he has no separation , he has no density he's behind in very other aspect marginal width is no advantage
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Damn, even the commentators be hatin' on his back...
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Here Wheeler doesnt even look like a bodybuilder next to Nasser and Ronnie. Just doing all this cause ND likes to keep reposting pics of Wheeler's strongest pose vs. Nasser's weakest pose as his "unbiased" comparison lol
I've said Nasser beats him in some poses , but when all things are consider he still losses
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Okay so what did he have over Levrone in 99 AC then that allowed him to overcome his apparent lack of muscularity and still win?
In all probability Kevin was off hence why Nasser won ;) Kevin's muscularity was off , he only won when the top guys were off nothing new
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NASSER HAD A REALLY SHITTY BACK
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In all probability Kevin was off hence why Nasser won ;) Kevin's muscularity was off , he only won when the top guys were off nothing new
You didnt answer my question - if Nasser was indeed less muscular than Levrone - he must have been far ahead in some other criteria? What criteria would that be? Like you said Nasser won because Kevin's muscularity was off, yet according to the judges Kevin's muscularity was still greater than Nasser's - yet Nasser won - so what's missing here?
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and lemme guess, Levrone was also "off" in the 96 Olympia, 97 Arnold Classic, 97 Olympia, 98 Olympia, 98 Arnold Classic and of course 99 Arnold Classic too? ::)
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Okay so what did he have over Levrone in 99 AC then that allowed him to overcome his apparent lack of muscularity and still win?
What did he have? Well he was giving the AC if you post pics, Levrone was clearly the better. Some say, that they punished Levrone for coming in lighter, others like Flex editor Peter M, said Levrone came in flat ::). It was widely known that nobody knew which Levrone was going to show up, the lighter one or the FullBlown one. Or using your excuse, politics. Since Levrone already won it twice, it was time to give it to Nasser. But the consolation prize went to Levrone...as a wink and a nod. I don't know who votes on the MM award, possibly Arnold himself.
Just like Cormier losing to Cutler for 3 straight yrs at the Arnold, when he clearly was better.
Also to answer you Flex question, Flex has cross striations in his quads, one of the few bbers to have that. It adds a lot in terms of detail. In the Musclemag that featured the contest, the up close pics of Flex's quads are unreal.
Also, yes Nasser's rear lat spread is wider than Flex's, he was narrow. It is his small waist that gives him the illusion of width from the front.
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What did he have? Well he was giving the AC if you post pics, Levrone was clearly the better. Some say, that they punished Levrone for coming in lighter, others like Flex editor Peter M, said Levrone came in flat ::). It was widely known that nobody knew which Levrone was going to show up, the lighter one or the FullBlown one. Or using your excuse, politics. Since Levrone already won it twice, it was time to give it to Nasser. But the consolation prize went to Levrone...as a wink and a nod. I don't know who votes on the MM award, possibly Arnold himself.
Just like Cormier losing to Cutler for 3 straight yrs at the Arnold, when he clearly was better.
Also to answer you Flex question, Flex has cross striations in his quads, one of the few bbers to have that. It adds a lot in terms of detail. In the Musclemag that featured the contest, the up close pics of Flex's quads are unreal.
Also, yes Nasser's rear lat spread is wider than Flex's, he was narrow. It is his small waist that gives him the illusion of width from the front.
You're saying the judges punished Levrone for being too light at the 99 Arnold Classic but he lost to Nasser in every major show (Olympia and AC) prior to that all the way back to the 95 Olympia (95 Owas the last major show that Levrone beat Nasser in until the 99 Olympia which is after the 99 AC). Or were the judges punishing Levrone for being light in all these shows? ::)
Anyway I'm more curious on ND's explanation of how Nasser would win if Levrone is more muscular (since muscularity is one of Nasser's strongpoints), and since ND believes judging is ALWAYS right and there is no politics or "punishing"
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You're saying the judges punished Levrone for being too light at the 99 Arnold Classic but he lost to Nasser in every major show (Olympia and AC) prior to that all the way back to the 95 Olympia (95 Owas the last major Levrone beat Nasser in until the 99 Olympia which is after the 99 AC). Or were the judges punishing Levrone for being light in all these shows? ::)
Anyway I'm more curious on ND's explanation of how Nasser would win if Levrone is more muscular (since muscularity is one of Nasser's strongpoints), and since ND believes judging is ALWAYS right and there is no politics or "punishing"
Did you not read what I said about Chris Cormier? He lost to Cutler 3x, when CC had the better physique, more cuts, density, and shape. Cutler looked like a brick with arms. Could they have been buying the hype that Cutler was "next", that he was the one push Ronnie? Could CC's issues with Ahmo Hight back in 96 have been following him, and some judges viewed him as a woman beater, so it would not have been good PR (for the contest or Arnold himself) to have him win the AC, lord knows what the headlines could have read.
Judges have been known to punish bbers. Look what they did at Flex at the 95 Mr. O, or recently Wolfe this past yr. Or Phil and Dex and Kai.
Look I give props for Nasser being a top bber, but let's face it, Flex was better. Period, he has Arnold's stamp on that, and he is basically Zeus when it comes to those decrees.
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and lemme guess, Levrone was also "off" in the 96 Olympia, 97 Arnold Classic, 97 Olympia, 98 Olympia, 98 Arnold Classic and of course 99 Arnold Classic too? ::)
Here we go again...... :D :D
Both Levrone and Wheeler beat Nasser WAAAAAY more than he beat them, they were better than him...end of story.
Do you really want everyone to start posting head-to-head stats, number of victories, avg finish, etc....etc.....all over again ??
Nasser wasn't the best bobs...or second third or fourth best, for the record
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Here we go again...... :D :D
Both Levrone and Wheeler beat Nasser WAAAAAY more than he beat them, they were better than him...end of story.
Do you really want everyone to start posting head-to-head stats, number of victories, avg finish, etc....etc.....all over again ??
Nasser wasn't the best bobs...or second third or fourth best, for the record
was in response to Parker saying that Levrone was "punished" for coming in too small in 99 AC - that would only make sense if Levrone was placing higher than Nasser before the 99 AC then all of a sudden came smaller, but like my post said that wasn't the case.
Doesnt surprise me that you weren't able to follow the logic of my post ;)
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Did you not read what I said about Chris Cormier? He lost to Cutler 3x, when CC had the better physique, more cuts, density, and shape. Cutler looked like a brick with arms. Could they have been buying the hype that Cutler was "next", that he was the one push Ronnie? Could CC's issues with Ahmo Hight back in 96 have been following him, and some judges viewed him as a woman beater, so it would not have been good PR (for the contest or Arnold himself) to have him win the AC, lord knows what the headlines could have read.
Judges have been known to punish bbers. Look what they did at Flex at the 95 Mr. O, or recently Wolfe this past yr. Or Phil and Dex and Kai.
Look I give props for Nasser being a top bber, but let's face it, Flex was better. Period, he has Arnold's stamp on that, and he is basically Zeus when it comes to those decrees.
You think judges were unfairly placing Nasser ahead of Levrone in some shows, in contrast I feel judges were unfairly placing Wheeler ahead of Nasser in some shows. Like I said my question about why nasser would win 99 AC to a "more muscular" Levrone is mainly towards ND since he t hinks judging never has flaws.
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was in response to Parker saying that Levrone was "punished" for coming in too small in 99 AC - that would only make sense if Levrone was placing higher than Nasser before the 99 AC then all of a sudden came smaller, but like my post said that wasn't the case.
Doesnt surprise me that you weren't able to follow the logic of my post ;)
I don't even have to read your posts anymore at this point Bobs....."YAYYYYYYY.... NASSER!!!!" pretty much covers them all.
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I don't even have to read your posts anymore at this point Bobs....."YAYYYYYYY.... NASSER!!!!" pretty much covers them all.
typical easy response when you can't follow my higher logic and IQ :D
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Back to Parker, you said that Cormier deserved to beat Cutler but didn't because he has a bad rep and may have been a woman beater, but there are stories of Dexter beating his wife before and he won the Olympia. Also stories of Wheeler acting violent to women (he got 5 years probation in one instance), and of course the grapefruit sexer Kai yet that didn't stop him from winning it. Bannout even won the Olympia even though he had domestic violence issues for many years. Samir once even choked Joe Weider in his office and knocked out a British judge after the British Grand Prix which got him a "lifetime" suspension at the time that was later lifted. When you see these types of instances not holding back some pros from their victories, yet other obvious joke-decisions (like 94 NOC and 97 Olympia), it looks like judges pick and choose depending on numerous factors that are not always clear to outsiders - Nasser has seconded this as well.
Manion once said to Ronnie Coleman during a guest posing at his yearly Pittsburgh (May) show where Ronnie was guest posing for free, that he had to return to the stage (he had gone backstage after just one minute of guest posing) otherwise Manion threatened to Ronnie that he would not win the next upcoming Mr. Olympia! Ronnie was told this directly by Manion who went backstage to give him that message personally. Ronnie hurried up and went back onstage and guest posed for many more minutes.
Simply BS to assume there are no factors beyond one's physique alone that influence judging decisions!
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this is back when winners were only judged by their back, all their other bodyparts (lack their of) were ignored
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You didnt answer my question - if Nasser was indeed less muscular than Levrone - he must have been far ahead in some other criteria? What criteria would that be? Like you said Nasser won because Kevin's muscularity was off, yet according to the judges Kevin's muscularity was still greater than Nasser's - yet Nasser won - so what's missing here?
You're asking me to speculate on what was on the judges mind and I'm only working on assumption seeing I never seen the contest and don't recall seeing any pics
And I'm confused on what contest you're talking about? 99 where he won but lost the most muscular award? if that's the case Kevin may have been more muscular but still down in other aspects of the criteria , theyb have similar structures so no real advantage could have been a case of Nasser being sharper in the prejudging and edging out Kevin and then Kevin coming back at the night show sharper , but again I can't say because I have no information
but the point stands don't equate size with muscularity
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and lemme guess, Levrone was also "off" in the 96 Olympia, 97 Arnold Classic, 97 Olympia, 98 Olympia, 98 Arnold Classic and of course 99 Arnold Classic too? ::)
Off from his usual and Nasser was on? sure absolutely
when Kevin was on he routinely beat Nasser when he was off he lost
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You're saying the judges punished Levrone for being too light at the 99 Arnold Classic but he lost to Nasser in every major show (Olympia and AC) prior to that all the way back to the 95 Olympia (95 Owas the last major show that Levrone beat Nasser in until the 99 Olympia which is after the 99 AC). Or were the judges punishing Levrone for being light in all these shows? ::)
Anyway I'm more curious on ND's explanation of how Nasser would win if Levrone is more muscular (since muscularity is one of Nasser's strongpoints), and since ND believes judging is ALWAYS right and there is no politics or "punishing"
You're saying the judges punished Levrone for being too light at the 99 Arnold Classic but he lost to Nasser in every major show (Olympia and AC) prior to that all the way back to the 95 Olympia (95 Owas the last major show that Levrone beat Nasser in until the 99 Olympia which is after the 99 AC). Or were the judges punishing Levrone for being light in all these shows? ::)
I always said , you get two versions of the Kevin , the light/shredded or huge/softish when he found the balance he was deadly and when he wasn't he was touchable
Anyway I'm more curious on ND's explanation of how Nasser would win if Levrone is more muscular (since muscularity is one of Nasser's strongpoints), and since ND believes judging is ALWAYS right and there is no politics or "punishing"
muscularity isn't really one of Nasser's strong points well let me amend that it was from the front and when he turned around he was soft , a very odd combo. Nasser was like Kevin in the same respects of lighter/harder and bigger/softer and I NEVER once claimed that the judges didn't punish competitors so do yourself a favor and don't put quotations around things I never claimed
The judges do punish guys especially if their conditioning is lacking , that usually more than anything separates first from second and stick politics up your ass , if there were politics involved in any win , it was involved in ALL of Nassers you can't have it both ways
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You think judges were unfairly placing Nasser ahead of Levrone in some shows, in contrast I feel judges were unfairly placing Wheeler ahead of Nasser in some shows. Like I said my question about why nasser would win 99 AC to a "more muscular" Levrone is mainly towards ND since he t hinks judging never has flaws.
You're forgetting that all rounds are physique rounds , so when all things are considered Nasser could at that particular contest could satisfy ALL of the criteria better than Kevin on that day and still not be ' more muscular '
your problem is you don't know how contests are judged and draw your own conclusions , seeing all rounds are physique one can can have a clear advantage in a PART of the criteria in this case muscularity and still not win the contest because it doesn't favor part it favors the whole , one guy can't have outstanding symmetry but lacks muscular bulk and density & dryness , it's the man who satisfies the whole of the criteria is determined the winner
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Where are the fake calves? And the syn went into the delts...
The calves that nobody ever saw him train, or let anyone touch. Those ones.
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I always said , you get two versions of the Kevin , the light/shredded or huge/softish when he found the balance he was deadly and when he wasn't he was touchable
muscularity isn't really one of Nasser's strong points well let me amend that it was from the front and when he turned around he was soft , a very odd combo. Nasser was like Kevin in the same respects of lighter/harder and bigger/softer and I NEVER once claimed that the judges didn't punish competitors so do yourself a favor and don't put quotations around things I never claimed
The judges do punish guys especially if their conditioning is lacking , that usually more than anything separates first from second and stick politics up your ass , if there were politics involved in any win , it was involved in ALL of Nassers you can't have it both ways
I used quotations meaning Parker's definition he applied saying Levrone got "punished" by the judges meaning it was a political decision that they put him behidn Nasser even though Levrone looked better (all according to Parker). But that would only make sense if Levrone was beating Nasser before the 99 AC and as I said that was not the case, so still curious for Parker to elaborate
However because you claim judging is always fair and there are never politics, I asked how can Nasser beaten Levrone overall while losing "muscularity", i.e. what rounds did Nasser beat Levrone in to not only overcome losing muscularity but winning overall - and I think you basically said you're not sure.
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when Kevin was on he routinely beat Nasser when he was off he lost
When Nasser was on he routinely beat Kevin when Nasser was off he lost
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Why dont you show other poses? Oh yeah, because you are biased, forgot ;)
bobs could you plz make a pic. from that video when both nasser and flex were hitting the most muscular beside each other by the end of the posedown?!.. nasser was much better SHAPE wise and of course SIZE wise!!..
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There is a big difference muscular size and muscularity , which is why Dorian beat Haney in the muscularity round despite being 10lbs lighter
Nasser is carrying more size but it's not that dense , hard stripped muscular size , less fat less water = better muscularity
ok so according to you why didnt levrone beat him in 1999 since he was denser, had lesser BF, less water?? ::)
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You didnt answer my question - if Nasser was indeed less muscular than Levrone - he must have been far ahead in some other criteria? What criteria would that be? Like you said Nasser won because Kevin's muscularity was off, yet according to the judges Kevin's muscularity was still greater than Nasser's - yet Nasser won - so what's missing here?
sorry bobs i asked him the same question before noticing you had done it ;)
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Can we just end all of this by saying:
Nasser is a great bodybuilder.
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He is DESPISED as a person by a lot of people that influenced his destiny for a wide array of reasons.
Lesson in life people:
Life isn't black and white. It's shades of grey. People will be influenced by the grey. That's life. Always has been and always will be. Don't hate the players, hate the game. Better yet, play to win the game if you are going to play.
If you have the personality and likability factor of Nasser, you won't do as well in life as you could if you had the ability to influence people in a positive manner.
You will be complaining about contest placings 15 years later.
Don't make a Nasshole out of yourself.
School's out, kiddies!
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bobs could you plz make a pic. from that video when both nasser and flex were hitting the most muscular beside each other by the end of the posedown?!.. nasser was much better SHAPE wise and of course SIZE wise!!..
Shape wise........HAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA AAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nasser looked like a big block of cheap sandwich meat next to the Great Flex Wheeler.
No comparison, Flex was a much, much better BBer than Nasser el ShitBacky
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I think Ronnie should have come in ahead of Mike Francois. For everyone bashing Nasser, because of his flaws, Wheeler had many flaws as well. His thighs were thin and narrow. His triceps were piss poor. You even see wheeler flexing his tiny and undefined triceps next to Nasser and nothing is really happening. Lastly, Wheeler had the tiniest chest I've ever seen on a pro bodybuilder. He had no size/no mass in that department whatsoever. Was he scared of doing bench presses? He just didn't impress me. That being said, his 1993 physique did.
The way I would have placed it was: 1. Nasser, 2. Coleman, 3. Wheeler, 4. Taylor, 5. Dillet, 6. Francois.
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Yeah but ND, turn them around and it's a different song altogether. Wheeler looked like a boy next to Nasser from the front (with exception to biceps).
Would have liked to have seen Levrone compete that year.
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Yeah but ND, turn them around and it's a different song altogether. Wheeler looked like a boy next to Nasser from the front (with exception to biceps).
Would have liked to have seen Levrone compete that year.
levrone was there but he was clearly off and placed 8th!!..
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Can we just end all of this by saying:
Nasser is a great bodybuilder.
and
He is DESPISED as a person by a lot of people that influenced his destiny for a wide array of reasons.
Lesson in life people:
Life isn't black and white. It's shades of grey. People will be influenced by the grey. That's life. Always has been and always will be. Don't hate the players, hate the game. Better yet, play to win the game if you are going to play.
If you have the personality and likability factor of Nasser, you won't do as well in life as you could if you had the ability to influence people in a positive manner.
You will be complaining about contest placings 15 years later.
Don't make a Nasshole out of yourself.
School's out, kiddies!
that sums it up...
dry those tears nasserboys... and stop living in the past...
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ok so according to you why didnt levrone beat him in 1999 since he was denser, had lesser BF, less water?? ::)
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Why are people comparing Nasser to Flex. You can make an easy argument for putting Flex in the top 5 bodybuilders of ALL time, yet Nasser is far into the rankings in the double figures.
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Back to Parker, you said that Cormier deserved to beat Cutler but didn't because he has a bad rep and may have been a woman beater, but there are stories of Dexter beating his wife before and he won the Olympia. Also stories of Wheeler acting violent to women (he got 5 years probation in one instance), and of course the grapefruit sexer Kai yet that didn't stop him from winning it. Bannout even won the Olympia even though he had domestic violence issues for many years. Samir once even choked Joe Weider in his office and knocked out a British judge after the British Grand Prix which got him a "lifetime" suspension at the time that was later lifted. When you see these types of instances not holding back some pros from their victories, yet other obvious joke-decisions (like 94 NOC and 97 Olympia), it looks like judges pick and choose depending on numerous factors that are not always clear to outsiders - Nasser has seconded this as well.
Manion once said to Ronnie Coleman during a guest posing at his yearly Pittsburgh (May) show where Ronnie was guest posing for free, that he had to return to the stage (he had gone backstage after just one minute of guest posing) otherwise Manion threatened to Ronnie that he would not win the next upcoming Mr. Olympia! Ronnie was told this directly by Manion who went backstage to give him that message personally. Ronnie hurried up and went back onstage and guest posed for many more minutes.
Simply BS to assume there are no factors beyond one's physique alone that influence judging decisions!
Cormier's incident happened about a yr after the OJ incident. Flex or Musclemag even ran a article comparing the two. Ahmo was a prominant figure model, and far more prettier than Nicole Brown Simpson (and Ahmo is rumored to be a cokehead). Then you have CC's drug habit (nubain and rec drugs) that was getting bad. Cutler was coming along at a time where he was being propped up as the "savior", because Gunter was failing at it. If you look at 2002,03,04 Arnold's you'll see that Culter didn't deserve any wins. And when they turned their backs, who Cormier had him beat by miles.
Dex's issues, were almost a decade after CC's, and CC's was at time time when that type of incident involving BM/WW would have been put under a manifying glass. I think there were judges that remember that, and also see CC as some type of pimp/thug with his cornrows, smirk, and tats.
Wheeler's situation was tha he apparently had threatened his brother's girlfriend about his brother going to jail...Basically victim/witness intimidation. Which there are charges for. Now I do agree that judges tend to pick and choose. But less face it, as Mattazzo had said, "Flex looks like he was hand painted by God", this was in regards to his 1993 conditioning and shape. He just "looks" aesthetically better, and at the end of the day, the judges will pick what maybe most pleasing to the eye, with the required amount of musculature and conditioning. Unfortunatedly Nasser was the odd man out, and Milos was even more so. Imagine having that physique but somehow you cannot develop arms to match it.
Also, for Flex's 1997 vid, "Mass Construction" he did chest, and for his 1993 vid he did chest. Remember, Flex was 5'9-5'10 and 215-230 at his best in contest, he was not by any means a mass monster. Because he had tiny joints and small waist, he gave the illusion of size---size which he didn't have.
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LMAO!! You gotta love you Bobs is trying to compare Flex Wheeler one of the greatest of all time to Nasser who in most cases couldn't beat Wheeler and he outweighed him by 50lbs...It goes to show you how awesome Flex was everything was in the right place and in most cases his conditioning was never what it could have been with the exception of 93 AC, 93 O, and 98 AC. Nasser isn't even on Flex's level. You can say what you want about him outsizing him, cause it just makes Nasser look worse that a guy 50lbs lighter beat him when he was in shape.
BTW Bobs, Kai rapes Nasser like a grapefruit on a Saturday night. How do you like them apples?
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Not hating, but why are 99 percent of Nasser fans brown?
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LMAO!! You gotta love you Bobs is trying to compare Flex Wheeler one of the greatest of all time to Nasser who in most cases couldn't beat Wheeler and he outweighed him by 50lbs...It goes to show you how awesome Flex was everything was in the right place and in most cases his conditioning was never what it could have been with the exception of 93 AC, 93 O, and 98 AC. Nasser isn't even on Flex's level. You can say what you want about him outsizing him, cause it just makes Nasser look worse that a guy 50lbs lighter beat him when he was in shape.
BTW Bobs, Kai rapes Nasser like a grapefruit on a Saturday night. How do you like them apples?
Bobs is just furious that no one else is willing to view nasser through delusion filtered fantasy colored eyes like he does...hence his obsession with trying to convince others that his soiled underwear supplier was something more than a 2nd tier bber.
Nasser will never attain the popularity levels of Coleman/Ray/Wheeler/Levrone/Yates etc. That is a fact regardless of what fantasies bob may have about his "hero". All the trumped up excuses of racism, judges and whatever other excuse nasser trots out via his drones shows how badly he fell from grace.
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Big Bobs love him some Nasser..............very sad. :(
I feel so sorry for you Bob,living your life worshiping another man.
Seek help,it may not be too late to recover.
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Not hating, but why are 99 percent of Nasser fans brown?
this is not true at all.. i myself is white like snow :-X
check the facebook page i made about nasser, most of the fans there are from the usa and europe!!..
the real question is, why ALL or to use your words why 99% of nasser's haters are muslims/arabs haters??..
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just checked the facebook page and it shows that the most active fans are from the usa..
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this is not true at all.. i myself is white like snow :-X
check the facebook page i made about nasser, most of the fans there are from the usa and europe!!..
the real question is, why ALL or to use your words why 99% of nasser's haters are muslims/arabs haters??..
Rubbish. Nasser and you guys act like the world owes you something that is all.
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Rubbish. Nasser and you guys act like the world owes you something that is all.
the world owes "us" something??!!.. by "us" you mean who?.. arabs and muslims?? ::)
yes sure the world owes arabs/muslims a lot, the same it owes other nations!!..
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why do "you guys" always point the finger...?
pathetic reasoning...
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Wheeler OWNING Nasser. It's no wonder Nasser would always lose, he has no back and he is not conditioned enough. FLex is killing him in conditioning and Nasser looks like the 2nd tier bodybuilder he is. Nasser has a gut. LOL
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wooptido... go find a damn hobby...
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This picture illustrates the difference between just being big and being perfect
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=326724.0;attach=366206;image)
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LMAO!! You gotta love you Bobs is trying to compare Flex Wheeler one of the greatest of all time to Nasser who in most cases couldn't beat Wheeler and he outweighed him by 50lbs...It goes to show you how awesome Flex was everything was in the right place and in most cases his conditioning was never what it could have been with the exception of 93 AC, 93 O, and 98 AC. Nasser isn't even on Flex's level. You can say what you want about him outsizing him, cause it just makes Nasser look worse that a guy 50lbs lighter beat him when he was in shape.
BTW Bobs, Kai rapes Nasser like a grapefruit on a Saturday night. How do you like them apples?
Like it or not is VERY FAIR to compare Nasser and Flex Wheeler. Nasser beat Flex several times, and of course lost as well. At their respective bests they were only one placing apart when they competed against each other (97 AC, 98 AC, 98 Olympia). Wheeler himself described Nasser as a threat. If there was no point in comparing them they would not have countless comparison pictures but judges frequently called them out together. The fact that you are ignoring all this just shows your bitterness/jealousy towards Nasser. :)
And why do you hold the grapefruit-fkker who still does homo-appealing videos (like the one posted before on RX) to such a high degree? (other than the fact that he is Black). Kai would loose to Nasser at his best.
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This picture illustrates the difference between being big and being smaller
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=326724.0;attach=366206;image)
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Like it or not is VERY FAIR to compare Nasser and Flex Wheeler. Nasser beat Flex several times, and of course lost as well. At their respective bests they were only one placing apart when they competed against each other (97 AC, 98 AC, 98 Olympia). Wheeler himself described Nasser as a threat. If there was no point in comparing them they would not have countless comparison pictures but judges frequently called them out together. The fact that you are ignoring all this just shows your bitterness/jealousy towards Nasser. :)
And why do you hold the grapefruit-fkker who still does homo-appealing videos (like the one posted before on RX) to such a high degree? (other than the fact that he is Black). Kai would loose to Nasser at his best.
I have no bitterness towards the beautiful man with glasses. I'm just telling you that he's nothing compared to Flex. Flex will go down as one of the greatest ever. Nasser will go down as a big guy. Look at all the time Nasser beat Flex...Actually please tell me when he did cause I don't know except for 96 Olympia.
So Kai fucked a grapefruit and I don't know what new video you speak of. Being black has nothing to do with me liking him as majority of the great bodybuilders are black--Suprise ::) Kai was 2 AC wins, 2 Austrailian Pro, Night of Champions and some scrub shows ALL READY. Kai would mop the floor with nasser....Please and if anyone has strikes against because of his past and uniqueness, it's Kai. Kai will go down as a better bodybuilder than Nasser and he actually already.
The appeal? Sick work ethis, different than many others, inciteful, incredible poser and kick ass hair!
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Who won this show again?
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I have no bitterness towards the beautiful man with glasses. I'm just telling you that he's nothing compared to Flex. Flex will go down as one of the greatest ever. Nasser will go down as a big guy. Look at all the time Nasser beat Flex...Actually please tell me when he did cause I don't know except for 96 Olympia.
So Kai fucked a grapefruit and I don't know what new video you speak of. Being black has nothing to do with me liking him as majority of the great bodybuilders are black--Suprise ::) Kai was 2 AC wins, 2 Austrailian Pro, Night of Champions and some scrub shows ALL READY. Kai would mop the floor with nasser....Please and if anyone has strikes against because of his past and uniqueness, it's Kai. Kai will go down as a better bodybuilder than Nasser and he actually already.
The appeal? Sick work ethis, different than many others, inciteful, incredible poser and kick ass hair!
Kai is in a much less competitive era right now than when Nasser was at his best. Take Kai today and put him in the major shows from 95 to 99 and he'd never crack top 3 at the AC or top 6 at the Olympia.
To answer your question he beat Flex at the 95 O, 96 O, 96 GP shows and 97 O (Flex lost by default due to backing out) :)
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Who won this show again?
(http://frankierants.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/broken-record-765056.jpg)
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Kai is in a much less competitive era right now than when Nasser was at his best. Take Kai today and put him in the major shows from 98 to 99 and he'd never crack top 3 at the AC or top 6 at the Olympia.
Kai would wipe the floor with Nasser El ShitBacky....their torsos from the front are about equal...kai has slightly better arms (not a strong point for either) but Kai absolutely DESTROYS Nasser from the back and on legs.
If Nasser competed today he would be a mid pack guy at best
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Kai is in a much less competitive era right now than when Nasser was at his best. Take Kai today and put him in the major shows from 98 to 99 and he'd never crack top 3 at the AC or top 6 at the Olympia.
Wrong! I don't buy into that less competitive era BS. Look at actual pics of the top 6 from 95-99. The conditioning and size combo is alot better today.
Kai would wipe the floor with everyone except Ronnie. He would outcondition Wheeler and Cormier and outsize and condition Ray. He's finally beaten Dexter and outconditions Martinez.
Like Dorian once Kai turned around, the beautiful man with glasses would get destroyed.
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(http://frankierants.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/broken-record-765056.jpg)
That's funny coming from you :D
"YAYYYYYYYYYYYY NASSSSSSSSSSEEEERRRRR!!!!!!!!" ::)
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First off....as usual you use a good pic of Nasser versus one where Kai's at a different angle and not fully into the pose yet"
Even so......Pretty much confirms my last post. From the front they are comparable torso wise, slight edge in arms to kai.
Turn them around and Kai makes Nasser look like he's never touched a weight in his life...and legs, no contest. Kai has the best legs i've ever seen
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First off....as usual you use a good pic of Nasser versus one where Kai's at a different angle and not fully into the pose yet"
Even so......Pretty much confirms my last post. From the front they are comparable torso wise, slight edge in arms to kai.
Turn them around and Kai makes Nasser look like he's never touched a weight in his life...and legs, no contest. Kai has the best legs i've ever seen
i dont use "certain" pic to prove my claims right as hulkster and ND always do.. i always post the whole thing.. i made this pic. long ago to compare AC winner of 1999 to that of 2009 (after 10 years) to show that bb hasnt improved!!.. kai is a good bb but he has more flaws than the wizard..
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kai is a good bb but he has more flaws than the wizard..
False
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i dont use "certain" pic to prove my claims right as hulkster and ND always do.. i always post the whole thing.. i made this pic. long ago to compare AC winner of 1999 to that of 2009 (after 10 years) to show that bb hasnt improved!!.. kai is a good bb but he has more flaws than the wizard..
Really.
Nasser's flaws :
Blocky
shit arms
Synthol in delts lats and arms
NO BACK
Long Torso
Short legs
Big head
Egyptian
Douchebag
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i dont use "certain" pic to prove my claims right as hulkster and ND always do.. i always post the whole thing.. i made this pic. long ago to compare AC winner of 1999 to that of 2009 (after 10 years) to show that bb hasnt improved!!.. kai is a good bb but he has more flaws than the wizard..
Hahahahaha you're obsessed with me huh? every other post is my name
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Kai is in a much less competitive era right now than when Nasser was at his best. Take Kai today and put him in the major shows from 95 to 99 and he'd never crack top 3 at the AC or top 6 at the Olympia.
To answer your question he beat Flex at the 95 O, 96 O, 96 GP shows and 97 O (Flex lost by default due to backing out) :)
He didn't beat Flex at the 1996 Mr Olympia , Nasser was disqualified for cheating so he didn't beat him and Nasser never faced Flex in 1997 so he didn't beat Flex in 1997 , your logic is very weak
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Kai is in a much less competitive era right now than when Nasser was at his best. Take Kai today and put him in the major shows from 95 to 99 and he'd never crack top 3 at the AC or top 6 at the Olympia.
To answer your question he beat Flex at the 95 O, 96 O, 96 GP shows and 97 O (Flex lost by default due to backing out) :)
Sorry, you can't lose something you were never in...
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Sorry, you can't lose something you were never in...
Seriously talking about grasping at fucking straws
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No matter what era, Kai would DESTROY Nasser.
I would say Nasser looks a little better from the front relaxed...maybe (just maybe) front double biceps. That's it though.
Everything else is WAY in favor of Kai Greene. Nothing is even CLOSE. Flex looks just as big from the side a Nasser even though Nasser outweighed him by 50 pounds.
Nasser just matches up extremely poorly next to Kai. No question about this one even with the BigBobs spin of reality.
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No matter what era, Kai would DESTROY Nasser.
I would say Nasser looks a little better from the front relaxed...maybe (just maybe) front double biceps. That's it though.
Everything else is WAY in favor of Kai Greene. Nothing is even CLOSE. Flex looks just as big from the side a Nasser even though Nasser outweighed him by 50 pounds.
Nasser just matches up extremely poorly next to Kai. No question about this one even with the BigBobs spin of reality.
WINNER!! 8)
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WINNER!! 8)
personally I think Nasser would destroy Kai from the front Nasser bigger more conditioned, muscles flow
as for back I don't even think that Kai has a good back but he beats no back Nasser
and side I think that would be close, Nasser has some structural flaws but he is way harder then Kai.
but overall who knows, nasser seemed to always be pushed to 2nd or 3rd because he had more flaws then the rest.
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WINNER!! 8)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=326724.0;attach=366264;image)
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Lets spin them around..shall we? ;)
It's getting to the point that every bodybuilder of note is better than Nasser because of the inescapable fact that his back was shitty.
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Lets spin them around..shall we? ;)
It's getting to the point that every bodybuilder of note is better than Nasser because of the inescapable fact that his back was shitty.
Nope, because Nasser MORE than compensates by being so far ahead of them in the rest of bodyparts and angles.
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the world owes "us" something??!!.. by "us" you mean who?.. arabs and muslims?? ::)
yes sure the world owes arabs/muslims a lot, the same it owes other nations!!..
No you moron, team nasser.
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Nope, because Nasser MORE than compensates by being so far ahead of them in the rest of bodyparts and angles.
He looks like a big block of shit in that pic......Mass with No Class, just a pile of grade B muscle topped off with a too-big head :)
He's the Branch Warren of the 90's
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Where are the fake calves? And the syn went into the delts...
everyone knows Flex got calf implants
shawn ray challenged Flex to get them ultrasounded and flex refused
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Back to Parker, you said that Cormier deserved to beat Cutler but didn't because he has a bad rep and may have been a woman beater, but there are stories of Dexter beating his wife before and he won the Olympia. Also stories of Wheeler acting violent to women (he got 5 years probation in one instance), and of course the grapefruit sexer Kai yet that didn't stop him from winning it. Bannout even won the Olympia even though he had domestic violence issues for many years. Samir once even choked Joe Weider in his office and knocked out a British judge after the British Grand Prix which got him a "lifetime" suspension at the time that was later lifted. When you see these types of instances not holding back some pros from their victories, yet other obvious joke-decisions (like 94 NOC and 97 Olympia), it looks like judges pick and choose depending on numerous factors that are not always clear to outsiders - Nasser has seconded this as well.
Manion once said to Ronnie Coleman during a guest posing at his yearly Pittsburgh (May) show where Ronnie was guest posing for free, that he had to return to the stage (he had gone backstage after just one minute of guest posing) otherwise Manion threatened to Ronnie that he would not win the next upcoming Mr. Olympia! Ronnie was told this directly by Manion who went backstage to give him that message personally. Ronnie hurried up and went back onstage and guest posed for many more minutes.
Simply BS to assume there are no factors beyond one's physique alone that influence judging decisions!
the voice of truth!
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so many BB fans are so naive - they think that there are no politics in BB judging/heirarchy.
IT IS ALL POLITICS- if you are not ass kissing or pleasing Wayne de milia (when he was in power) or Manion (now) or Weinberger or Peter Mcgough then you are not winning shows or the Olympia.
The best physique on the day often doesnt win shows
Viz:
Flex, olympia 1993
shawn ray olympia 1994
levrone 95 olympia
nasser 96 and 97 olympia
martinez 2007 olympia
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He didn't beat Flex at the 1996 Mr Olympia , Nasser was disqualified for cheating so he didn't beat him and Nasser never faced Flex in 1997 so he didn't beat Flex in 1997 , your logic is very weak
Nasser was not cheating, everyone else in that olympia were using the same diuretics as Nasser.
Nasser was made an example of because of the SNitch Matarazzo.
the IFBB wanted to make it look like thye were testing because of the deaths of momo and munzer
THERE WAS NO ACTUAL DRUG TESTING
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Nasser has done enough steroids and hormones to purchase a private island with a private jet.
All steroids.
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Really.
Nasser's flaws (at his best):
Blocky: not at all!!..
shit arms: of course not, at his best he had amazing arms..
Synthol in delts lats and arms: at his best no one "who knows bb" says there was anything in these areas and his delts were from the best ever..
NO BACK: he had a big, wide, back but lacked some details..
Long Torso: a little bit but not like priest or levrone..
Short legs: you cant say long torso AND short legs.. it's either this or that ::)..
Big head: suitale for him as a very big man..
Egyptian: great arab genetics..
Douchebag: sorry but this fits you more..
fixed as a bb lesson..
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Hey genius, he can say long torso and short legs, thats how it works.
He couldnt say long torso, and long legs, cause that wouldnt make sense.
Someone who has a long ass torso, is gonna have short stubby legs.
Consider this your lesson....
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Hey genius, he can say long torso and short legs, thats how it works.
He couldnt say long torso, and long legs, cause that wouldnt make sense.
Someone who has a long ass torso, is gonna have short stubby legs.
Consider this your lesson....
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i said either this or that because it's the same thing.. he mentioned them as if they were 2 different flaws!!.. his legs separately couldn't be considered short,.. short for what??.. and his torso was long,.. long for what?..
another example i cant say big ron had long legs and short upper body but i can say he had long legs for his upper body or short upper body for his legs.. but i cant say his upper body was just short as long as it flows in a good way.. but short, short for what??..
the one who comes to my mind whose upper/lower proportion was good but still could consider his upper body long is paul dillet because his upper body as a separate thing didnt flow well..
hope you get my point..
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couple screenshots I just made of Nasser and Wheeler together - can easily notice the size difference in fact it looks like its even more than the 40 lbs it was
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They marked Nasser down for having an ugly bald donut haircut.
Shoulda shaved yo head, mutha fucka.
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couple screenshots I just made of Nasser and Wheeler together - can easily notice the size difference in fact it looks like its even more than the 40 lbs it was
Looks like an action figure next to his tank.
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everyone knows Flex got calf implants
shawn ray challenged Flex to get them ultrasounded and flex refused
What implants, there have been pics posted from the 1993 Arnold that clearly show no implants. In his 1993 vid, Hardbody, he flexed them and he even joked about the calf implant accusation---
And Shawn Ray said on here that he said that to get in Flex's head...and allegedly he did have a ultrasound done...I discount that because he submitted it with the police report of his Ninja attack. If one was faked, then possibly the other...but Shawn said on here it was to eff with Flex to mess with him, doing a M. Ali on J. Frazier move. Now Flex, could have used Escilene in his calves, he was shooting that in his delts....
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you just make a bigger fool of yourself when you try to argue nassr's delts and arms were not ready to explode with synthol
by the way, i copied this picture from a web page titled "synthol victims".......that has dozens of pictures of people who abuse synthol........guess who is pictured multiple times ::) ::) ::)
(http://www.artsyspot.com/img/weird/synthol-victims/synthol-victims52.jpg)
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couple screenshots I just made of Nasser and Wheeler together - can easily notice the size difference in fact it looks like its even more than the 40 lbs it was
flex chest looks flat and narrow eside the wizard's :)
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you just make a bigger fool of yourself when you try to argue nassr's delts and arms were not ready to explode with synthol
by the way, i copied this picture from a web page titled "synthol victims".......that has dozens of pictures of people who abuse synthol........guess who is pictured multiple times ::) ::) ::)
(http://www.artsyspot.com/img/weird/synthol-victims/synthol-victims52.jpg)
you idiot i wrote clearly AT HIS BEST which means mid 90s.. like in this contest for example (AC 97) dont tell me you doubt his delts were fake there!!..
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you idiot i wrote clearly AT HIS BEST which means mid 90s.. like in this contest for example (AC 97) dont tell me you doubt his delts were fake there!!..
no... you are the idiot...
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looks like a big lump of average quality muscle..... at his best, worst....in the middle.
Did not great genetics for shape or quality....just an average BBer who megadosed himself to gigantic proportions
(http://www.artsyspot.com/img/weird/synthol-victims/synthol-victims52.jpg)
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Did not great genetics for shape or quality....just an average BBer who megadosed himself to gigantic proportions
Gee, wonder why every average BBer who megadoses himself does not get to be top 2-3 in the world from doing so? ::)
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Gee, wonder why every average BBer who megadoses himself does not get to be top 2-3 in the world from doing so? ::)
It's too bad they don't make steroids that grow your back, maybe he might have been good enough to actually win the big one instead of being an also ran :D
Nasser's only MAJOR pro win was a gift because the number 1 and 2 guys at the time sat it out...or he would have been third.
So actually his Arnold victory doesn't count, and Nasser has ZERO major title victories 8)
Nasser El Shitbacky = ZERO major contest wins. This is now law
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It's too bad they don't make steroids that grow your back, maybe he might have been good enough to actually win the big one instead of being an also ran :D
Nasser's only MAJOR pro win was a gift because the number 1 and 2 guys at the time sat it out...or he would have been third.
So actually his Arnold victory doesn't count, and Nasser has ZERO major title victories 8)
Nasser El Shitbacky = ZERO major contest wins. This is now law
Just like you mentioned two top guys didn't compete at the 99 AC, Nasser himself also didn't compete in each AC otherwise he'd likely have more AC victories. He won 2nd and 3rd top show and got 2nd at the top show, not much room for improvement there!
Trying to imply a succesful career like that is unsuccesful = jealous meltdown :)
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Just like you mentioned two top guys didn't compete at the 99 AC, Nasser himself also didn't compete in each AC otherwise he'd likely have more AC victories. He won 2nd and 3rd top show and got 2nd at the top show, not much room for improvement there!
Trying to imply a succesful career like that is unsuccesful = jealous meltdown :)
LOL....Jealous of what? I've never competed or even thought about it...you make no sense :P
If Nasser competed in more major shows he would just have few more 3rd and 4ths under his belt, like he would magically start beating people who easily owned him on a regular basis ::)
Nasser has No Major show victories and his arms are small and shitty :D
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couple screenshots I just made of Nasser and Wheeler together - can easily notice the size difference in fact it looks like its even more than the 40 lbs it was
Wow great proof there Hulkster Flex in transition not even hitting the shot yet, great way to make your case ::)
and the most muscular part of Flex is obscured behind Nasser and the other is at the end of the frame and he still doesn't look like he's getting out muscled
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LOL....Jealous of what? I've never competed or even thought about it...you make no sense :P
If Nasser competed in more major shows he would just have few more 3rd and 4ths under his belt, like he would magically start beating people who easily owned him on a regular basis ::)
Nasser has No Major show victories and his arms are small and shitty :D
poor bait attempt but nice try :D
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poor bait attempt but nice try :D
You fear the truth ;D
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Just like you mentioned two top guys didn't compete at the 99 AC, Nasser himself also didn't compete in each AC otherwise he'd likely have more AC victories. He won 2nd and 3rd top show and got 2nd at the top show, not much room for improvement there!
Trying to imply a succesful career like that is unsuccesful = jealous meltdown :)
6 wins in over 50 contests isn't very successful. That's the problem with you guys you think Nasser was better than he was and facts prove otherwise
and please stop projecting your own jealously onto others , you look like a fool doing so anyone who voices their opinion is jealous that's you announcing to everyone YOU wish you were Nasser. If anyone were to invest jealously into a bodybuilder why stop at someone as mediocre as Nasser? Arnold is everything Nasser could only dream of if I did invest in jealously it would be someone who was a success in bodybuilding and entertainment , a real icon , a true legend.
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Jealous ;D
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6 wins in over 50 contests isn't very successful.
there you go trying to start a statistics argument again, like I've said there are many stats that can be used and some favour certain bodybuilders over others. Nasser turned pro early, retired late, and had lots of 2nd and 3rd finishes as well which your stat ignores. I'm not going to get into this debate with you again because I prefer not to debate the exact same thing tens or hundreds of times over years lol, too bad I can't say the same for you and others in the Dorian/Ronnie threads who literally copy and paste the same quotes over and over
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there you go trying to start a statistics argument again, like I've said there are many stats that can be used and some favour certain bodybuilders over others. Nasser turned pro early, retired late, and had lots of 2nd and 3rd finishes as well which your stat ignores. I'm not going to get into this debate with you again because I prefer not to debate the exact same thing tens or hundreds of times over years lol, too bad I can't say the same for you and others in the Dorian/Ronnie threads who literally copy and paste the same quotes over and over
There is NO debate Nasser wasn't that successful as a competitive bodybuilder , the object of entering a bodybuilding contest or any contest is to win and he lost a fuck of a lot more than he did win , second and third place finishes is your idea of success?
success = how many times you tried to win a contest and accomplished the task , 6 wins in 50-something tries but hey he was the first place loser on many occasions lmfao
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are you being deliberately obtuse? That's like saying Phil Mickleson isn't a successful golfer because he never wins majors. It's absurd. I think the team nasser thing is as stupid as the next guy but come on.
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are you being deliberately obtuse? That's like saying Phil Mickleson isn't a successful golfer because he never wins majors. It's absurd. I think the team nasser thing is as stupid as the next guy but come on.
No , Nasser isn't a very successful bodybuilder because he never won the Olympia , it's because he rarely won at ALL !!
6 wins in well over 50 tries that's not that successful by any standards
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6 first place
11 second places
14 third places
Nasser was successful at losing ;D
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6 first place
11 second places
14 third places
Nasser was successful at losing ;D
It's all relative, being the best few in the WORLD at what you do is incredibly succcesful.
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Although he won only six times, looking at his 2nd and 3rd place finishes he's had a decent career. Nothing legendary. Kind of like a Scottie Pippen and Dorian and Coleman were Jordanesque.
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Although he won only six times, looking at his 2nd and 3rd place finishes he's had a decent career. Nothing legendary. Kind of like a Scottie Pippen and Dorian and Coleman were Jordanesque.
Nasser was the Branch Warren of his day.
he was the Fan favorite of the guys who like "mass monsters" but he wasn't ever going to win an Olympia because he lacked polish and detail
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Nasser was the Branch Warren of his day.
he was the Fan favorite of the guys who like "mass monsters" but he wasn't ever going to win an Olympia because he lacked polish and detail
Nope, you can make that argument for Ruhl or Fux, but until Branch stays in the top 3 for several years at practically every show he competes in you can't make this argument.
Also Nasser WAS considered an Olympia threat during his best by not only industry officials but fellow competitors too. It's only the getbig haters a decade afterewards who try denying this.
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It's all relative, being the best few in the WORLD at what you do is incredibly succcesful.
yeah and relative to he competed with he wasn't successful compared to them
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Nope, you can make that argument for Ruhl or Fux, but until Branch stays in the top 3 for several years at practically every show he competes in you can't make this argument.
Also Nasser WAS considered an Olympia threat during his best by not only industry officials but fellow competitors too. It's only the getbig haters a decade afterewards who try denying this.
Again his record speaks for itself , always a bridesmaid never a bride. He had a nice run for being second and third but when push comes to shove he couldn't close the deal when it mattered
It's only the delusional fanboys a decade later who try denying this
6 wins in 53 contests not that impressive
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6 wins in 53 contests not that impressive
According to you and a few other haters only.
He wouldnt be considered "Hall of Fame" material if he was not succesful and ironically even you said he deserved to be in it a few days ago?
I guess according to ND the Hall of Fame includes the unimpressive and unsuccesul lol ::)
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According to you and a few other haters only.
He wouldnt be considered "Hall of Fame" material if he was not succesful and ironically even you said he deserved to be in it a few days ago?
I guess according to ND the Hall of Fame includes the unimpressive and unsuccesul lol ::)
WOW he's considered for the hall of fame ::) anyone can nominate a person for the hall of fame lmfao you act like he's been courted by Joe Weider. Hell even IFBB Officials can be nominated
but I like how you tried to shift the focus from his mediocre ability to win contests to the " Hall of fame " it doesn't change the fact that he only won 6 times in 53 tries ;)
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WOW he's considered for the hall of fame ::) anyone can nominate a person for the hall of fame lmfao you act like he's been courted by Joe Weider. Hell even IFBB Officials can be nominated
but I like how you tried to shift the focus from his mediocre ability to win contests to the " Hall of fame " it doesn't change the fact that he only won 6 times in 53 tries ;)
Not shifting focus at all, I admit he won 6 shows out of 50-something, my response was that the individual stat alone does not mean much because he started his pro career early and retired late, so many of those shows weren't at his prime. Also many of those shows were 2nd and 3rd placings and IMO it is succesful to be top 3 in the world at what you do for years.
You are simply using one stat to try to imply a meaning that is not true. Using your logic it would be just as succesful if he got last place in 47 of the 53 shows than what happened in acuality, your logic also suggests that if he retired in 2001 or was born in the US and had to get his pro card there that he woudl be more "successful " (since he would have turned pro a bit later and closer to his prime instead of entering shows working his way up).
So much weak logic just out of stuborn/bitterness lol
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Not shifting focus at all, I admit he won 6 shows out of 50-something, my response was that the individual stat alone does not mean much because he started his pro career early and retired late, so many of those shows weren't at his prime. Also many of those shows were 2nd and 3rd placings and IMO it is succesful to be top 3 in the world at what you do for years
So you agree he wasn't good enough throughout his career to win contests so what's the issue? ;) he had a long career and couldn't win many contests
I'm glad you also concede he was a habitual second tier pro and he was very good at losing , better at it than winning
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Not shifting focus at all, I admit he won 6 shows out of 50-something, my response was that the individual stat alone does not mean much because he started his pro career early and retired late, so many of those shows weren't at his prime. Also many of those shows were 2nd and 3rd placings and IMO it is succesful to be top 3 in the world at what you do for years
The only problem is that the BBers you consider him to be equal to, or better than, all have many more victories than him, OVER him
Flex, Levrone, coleman and Yates all WON a lot of the shows they entered, so your "A for effort" argument holds no water against these superior BBers.
These BBers are often handed the trophy that Nasser was vying for as well, so how was he "successful" ?
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The only problem is that the BBers you consider him to be equal to, or better than, all have many more victories than him, OVER him
Flex, Levrone, coleman and Yates all WON a lot of the shows they entered, so your "A for effort" argument holds no water against these superior BBers.
These BBers are often handed the trophy that Nasser was vying for as well, so how was he "successful" ?
Great post ! this however is where the politics plea comes in as well as the racism excuses
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Great post ! this however is where the politics plea comes in as well as the racism excuses
I know...it is amusing to watch bobs flail away at reality.
The simple fact that Nasser was inferior just escapes him, he can't even comprehend it.
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Something that is successful achieves what it was intended to achieve. Someone who is successful achieves what they intended to achieve
If Nasser intended to place second and third then he was a success ;)
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I know...it is amusing to watch bobs flail away at reality.
The simple fact that Nasser was inferior just escapes him, he can't even comprehend it.
being away from reality is a prerequisite to be on " Team Nasser "
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Something that is successful achieves what it was intended to achieve. Someone who is successful achieves what they intended to achieve
If Nasser intended to place second and third then he was a success ;)
All the way a done deal, Nasser has done all he intended to do = success.
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being away from reality is a prerequisite to be on " Team Nasser "
Hahaha...yes.
it's like telling a 9 year old girl that Justin Beiber lip syncs...they just refuse to accept it ;D
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You are simply using one stat to try to imply a meaning that is not true. Using your logic it would be just as succesful if he got last place in 47 of the 53 shows than what happened in acuality, your logic also suggests that if he retired in 2001 or was born in the US and had to get his pro card there that he woudl be more "successful " (since he would have turned pro a bit later and closer to his prime instead of entering shows working his way up).
So much weak logic just out of stuborn/bitterness lol
Again if he was trying to be the second and third best bodybuilder on the planet , he was a success , mission accomplished , but something tells me he was really , really , trying to win but failed to do so on many occasions
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Again if he was trying to be the second and third best bodybuilder on the planet , he was a success , mission accomplished , but something tells me he was really , really , trying to win but failed to do so on many occasions
being top 3 in world is no failure, i would be interested what all you other guys do that are shit talking nasser ???
he was an amazing bodybuilder, and fan fav i would only dream to be in the position he was back in the 90s,
battling dorian, ronnie, flex, shawn legends, not only battling but kicking ass and taking names 8)
with that said the only thing that i don't like about nasser is that i've read before where he was shit talking dorian and saying he should have only won 3 of his 6. What an asshole no respect at all. >:(
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Nasser seems to be crying over spilt milk all the time.
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The only problem is that the BBers you consider him to be equal to, or better than, all have many more victories than him, OVER him
Flex, Levrone, coleman and Yates all WON a lot of the shows they entered, so your "A for effort" argument holds no water against these superior BBers.
These BBers are often handed the trophy that Nasser was vying for as well, so how was he "successful" ?
it's not considered like this at all!!.. shawn ray is one of the best and he won only 2 contests during his long career!!..
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Hahaha...yes.
it's like telling a 9 year old girl that Justin Beiber lip syncs...they just refuse to accept it ;D
What the hell is talking with that song "Baby", dude can't even drive and he's talking about "Love" and the "only one for me", kid hasn't even graduated HS yet (is even in it?)
On to the Nasser issue, I kinda stop dealing with this because this will end up being 2000 pages, you can't argue with obsession...
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being top 3 in world is no failure, i would be interested what all you other guys do that are shit talking nasser ???
he was an amazing bodybuilder, and fan fav i would only dream to be in the position he was back in the 90s,
battling dorian, ronnie, flex, shawn legends, not only battling but kicking ass and taking names 8)
with that said the only thing that i don't like about nasser is that i've read before where he was shit talking dorian and saying he should have only won 3 of his 6. What an asshole no respect at all. >:(
at his best dorian was the best mr. olympia ever but i totally agree with nasser that he didnt deserve all his wins.. i am not sure about 1994, it was very close but still dorian dominated it in a certain way but in 1996 and especially in 1997 it was a silly joke!!..
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at his best dorian was the best mr. olympia ever but i totally agree with nasser that he didnt deserve all his wins.. i am not sure about 1994, it was very close but still dorian dominated it in a certain way but in 1996 and especially in 1997 it was a silly joke!!..
true 97, being a dorian fan I don't even like his 97 form(exept from back, he looked really wide)
although nasser looked really good in 96 imo I did not see him winning
I wondered what would happened if they gave it to Nasser in 97. would he have gotten even better being so dedicated from being mr o even building a good back( his back imo woulda always sucked in the latspread, but he could have built it thick enough to have a good bdb) and beat ronnie in 98.
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so nasser the crowd favorite of the 90s, the guy who was considered the uncrowned mr. olympia by many experts and fans, the winner of the AC and the NOC and the runner up of the olympia is not successfull according to mr. shit and mr. filth of getbig ::)
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so nasser the crowd favorite of the 90s, the guy who was considered the uncrowned mr. olympia by many experts and fans, the winner of the AC and the NOC and the runner up of the olympia is not successfull according to mr. shit and mr. filth of getbig ::)
who are the people in that pic like whos mr shit??
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true 97, being a dorian fan I don't even like his 97 form(exept from back, he looked really wide)
although nasser looked really good in 96 imo I did not see him winning
I wondered what would happened if they gave it to Nasser in 97. would he have gotten even better being so dedicated from being mr o even building a good back( his back imo woulda always sucked in the latspread, but he could have built it thick enough to have a good bdb) and beat ronnie in 98.
sure if he won the olympia in 97 as he deserved his motivation would have been increased and logically would have presented the best shape of his life the next year!!..
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so nasser the crowd favorite of the 90s, the guy who was considered the uncrowned mr. olympia by many experts and fans, the winner of the AC and the NOC and the runner up of the olympia is not successfull according to mr. shit and mr. filth of getbig ::)
Still trying to get someone to laugh at that crappy pic ?....let it go already Sherif ;D
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who are the people in that pic like whos mr shit??
lol these are all the assholes of GB who keep saying shit about nasser all the time like gronk, tyr, ND, mossel.. etc..
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Still trying to get someone to laugh at that crappy pic ?....let it go already Sherif ;D
here mr. shit has arrived :-X
you may not find it funny but it's true!!..
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lol these are all the assholes of GB who keep saying shit about nasser all the time like gronk, tyr, ND, mossel.. etc..
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=326724.0;attach=366458;image)
im guessing mr shit is goink
not sure what mr dog is
mr dirt would be nd
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here mr. shit has arrived :-X
you may not find it funny but it's true!!..
that is correct...my arms are better than Nasser's...Thanks sherief :D
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=326724.0;attach=366458;image)
im guessing mr shit is goink
not sure what mr dog is
mr dirt would be nd
- sure mr. shit is gronk because he kept comparing himself and his arm to nasser!!..
- mr. filth is any asshole getigger who doesnt know a shit about anything and has nothing to say but to prase those who hate nasser or let me say those who hate arabs/muslims..
- sure ND is mr. dirt..
- mr. asshole is mossel of course..
- the dog is tyr..
;D ;D
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that is correct...my arms are better than Nasser's...Thanks sherief :D
hahahahhaaaa so you are admitting you are mr. shit ;D
actually man and all shit aside this pic. is very true and it shows your real size!!..
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being top 3 in world is no failure, i would be interested what all you other guys do that are shit talking nasser ???
he was an amazing bodybuilder, and fan fav i would only dream to be in the position he was back in the 90s,
battling dorian, ronnie, flex, shawn legends, not only battling but kicking ass and taking names 8)
with that said the only thing that i don't like about nasser is that i've read before where he was shit talking dorian and saying he should have only won 3 of his 6. What an asshole no respect at all. >:(
Who said failure? I said he wasn't that successful at winning contests and that's a fact. he did pretty good for himself to but claim he's in the same league as Kevin , Flex , Ronnie and Dorian is laughable
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so nasser the crowd favorite of the 90s, the guy who was considered the uncrowned mr. olympia by many experts and fans, the winner of the AC and the NOC and the runner up of the olympia is not successfull according to mr. shit and mr. filth of getbig ::)
WOW-WEE the crowd favorite lmfao and the un-crowned Mr Olympia is Flex Wheeler NOT Nasser
Nasser was pretty successful at losing contests lots of seconds and thirds ;D
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lol these are all the assholes of GB who keep saying shit about nasser all the time like gronk, tyr, ND, mossel.. etc..
The funny part Mr Moron is I never said that about Nasser you made that up , and then believe your own lies ???
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WOW-WEE the crowd favorite lmfao and the un-crowned Mr Olympia is Flex Wheeler NOT Nasser
Nasser was pretty successful at losing contests lots of seconds and thirds ;D
ND what was Flex's overall total wins versus Nasser, now you have to figure the total number of contests for each. Seriously kind of a math question I'm just interested I know you got the data.
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Who said failure? I said he wasn't that successful at winning contests and that's a fact. he did pretty good for himself to but claim he's in the same league as Kevin , Flex , Ronnie and Dorian is laughable
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That's true that Nasser's career was not as successful as Kevin's, Shawn's or Flex's but he is definitely the first guy who comes after those. I don't put too much emphasis on how many pro shows you've won but how well you do at the Olympia. Nasser had great four O's in a row but start to fall in the late 90's as we all know. At the Olympia all the previously mensioned guys beat him more often that he beat them.
Nasser is still one of the all time greats.
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ND what was Flex's overall total wins versus Nasser, now you have to figure the total number of contests for each. Seriously kind of a math question I'm just interested I know you got the data.
Flex 17 wins , Nasser 6
Flex 33 contests , Nasser 53 contests
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Flex 17 wins , Nasser 6
Flex 33 contests , Nasser 53 contests
Numbers dont lie. Thanks
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That's true that Nasser's career was not as successful as Kevin's, Shawn's or Flex's but he is definitely the first guy who comes after those. I don't put too much emphasis on how many pro shows you've won but how well you do at the Olympia. Nasser had great four O's in a row but start to fall in the late 90's as we all know.
Nasser is still one of the all time greats.
Nasser was more successful than Shawn who only won 2 pro shows
Nasser was successful in terms of being popular and making good money was a pro but as far as winning contests he was not
Nasser is NOT one of the all time greats I can think of 20 people way ahead of him on that list
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so nasser the crowd favorite of the 90s, the guy who was considered the uncrowned mr. olympia by many experts and fans, the winner of the AC and the NOC and the runner up of the olympia is not successfull according to mr. shit and mr. filth of getbig ::)
And in this picture you and Bigbobs are behind the mountain, on your kness licking Nasser's erect cock.
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Numbers dont lie. Thanks
NO they don't but fan-boys don't put much stock in them because they contradict their claims he was the second coming of God
Nasser was an OUTSTANDING bodybuilder............. ........................ .......from the front ;D
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Numbers dont lie. Thanks
no my friend because shawn ray won only 2 contests throughout his long career but he is by all means one of the best ever!!..
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NO they don't but fan-boys don't put much stock in them because they contradict their claims he was the second coming of God
Nasser was an OUTSTANDING bodybuilder............. ........................ .......from the front ;D
so according to you shawn ray or paul dillet were unsuccessful bbs!!.. ::)
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no my friend because shawn ray won only 2 contests throughout his long career but he is by all means one of the best ever!!..
Hahahahaha best ever my ass
we at least found someone that Nasser more successful than ;D
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Nasser was more successful than Shawn who only won 2 pro shows
As you know Shawn didn't much compete at those 10k shows and for me all that matters is Olympia. If we're using your logic I could say that Darrem Charles is more successful than Shawn was.
Shawn and Nasser faced each other 8 times at the O and Shawn won five of them.
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As you know Shawn didn't much compete at those 10k shows and for me all that matters is Olympia. If we're using your logic I could say that Darrem Charles is more successful than Shawn was.
Shawn and Nasser faced each other 8 times at the O and Shawn won five of them.
Shawn didn't do well in smaller shows which is why he put all his eggs in one basket he did very well for his size and shhhhhhhhhh I was giving Team Nasser a glimmer of hope about Shawn
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As you know Shawn didn't much compete at those 10k shows and for me all that matters is Olympia. If we're using your logic I could say that Darrem Charles is more successful than Shawn was.
Shawn and Nasser faced each other 8 times at the O and Shawn won five of them.
you cant count 1996 because nasser was disqualified ;D
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so according to you shawn ray or paul dillet were unsuccessful bbs!!.. ::)
It depends on the context you're talking about if you mean contests winners NO they weren't
if we're talking about popularity and consistency then sure
people enter contests to win NOT to lose
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that is correct...my arms are better than Nasser's...Thanks sherief :D
Thats going a little far. They are definitely better than Yates' though...
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you cant count 1996 because nasser was disqualified ;D
Nasser counts 1996 ;)
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Nasser counts 1996 ;)
Why was he disqualified?
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Why was he disqualified?
Because he was stupid
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It depends on the context you're talking about if you mean contests winners NO they weren't
if we're talking about popularity and consistency then sure
people enter contests to win NOT to lose
so according to you mr. genus no one should enter mr. olympia 2010 except jay, kai, & phil who have chances with the sandow!!.. :-X ::)
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so according to you mr. genus no one should enter mr. olympia 2010 except jay, kai, & phil who have chances with the sandow!!.. :-X ::)
No some guys know they can't win ( Nasser couldn't admit this to himself ) and just the experience of being there is a life long goal achieved
There are some guys in the upper echelon who can win it and do win it many times and many pro shows as well , Nasser wasn't one of these guys even though is dumb fans like to act like he was
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Thats going a little far. They are definitely better than Yates' though...
gronk arms are better than dorian's left arm in 1997 only..
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No some guys know they can't win ( Nasser couldn't admit this to himself ) and just the experience of being there is a life long goal achieved
There are some guys in the upper echelon who can win it and do win it many times and many pro shows as well , Nasser wasn't one of these guys even though is dumb fans like to act like he was
nasser was always a fighter, he was always saying he would enter any contest only to win and he said many times that he didnt think dorian was unbeatable.. then he said the same about ronnie.. he was not like flex who said before the olympua 96 the contest was for 2nd place!!.. nasser words were not wrong and it's not his fault the judges didnt give him what he deserved!!..
and by the way why did you find it funny in a previous post when i said that nasser was the crowd favorite in mid 90s??.. this was a fact and everybody knows it!!..
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nasser was always a fighter, he was always saying he would enter any contest only to win and he said many times that he didnt think dorian was unbeatable.. then he said the same about ronnie.. he was not like flex who said before the olympua 96 the contest was for 2nd place!!.. nasser words were not wrong and it's not his fault the judges didnt give him what he deserved!!..
and by the way why did you find it funny in a previous post when i said that nasser was the crowd favorite in mid 90s??.. this was a fact and everybody knows it!!..
Nasser was saying Dorian wasn't unbeatable because he believed he could beat him and turns out he couldn't , history proved him wrong
and I wholeheartedly agree Nasser was probably the most popular bodybuilder of the 1990s doesn't mean much , it's not a popularity contest , it's a physique contest
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Nasser was saying Dorian wasn't unbeatable because he believed he could beat him and turns out he couldn't , history proved him wrong
and I wholeheartedly agree Nasser was probably the most popular bodybuilder of the 1990s doesn't mean much , it's not a popularity contest , it's a physique contest
so according to you the most popular bb of the 90s was unsuccessful!!.. your name must be mr. contradiction :-X
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nasser was always a fighter, he was always saying he would enter any contest only to win and he said many times that he didnt think dorian was unbeatable.. then he said the same about ronnie.. he was not like flex who said before the olympua 96 the contest was for 2nd place!!.. nasser words were not wrong and it's not his fault the judges didnt give him what he deserved!!..
and by the way why did you find it funny in a previous post when i said that nasser was the crowd favorite in mid 90s??.. this was a fact and everybody knows it!!..
You might be mistaken Shabalabdingdong..... What you think was applause for Nasser was actually laughter. I remember back in 98 at the "O" Wayne Demilia actually had to ask the audience to stop laughing every time Nasser hit a "back" (lol) shot.
I think the ridiculous difference between Ronnie's Back and Nasser's just made people laugh. I'm not making this up.
Even my GF at the time, who didn't know BBing.... said this..."that guy looks really big from the front but he looks fat from the back, the other guys backs look like their fronts...all muscley'
I'm obviously joking in the first part of my post but those were her exact words
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so according to you the most popular bb of the 90s was unsuccessful!!.. your name must be mr. contradiction :-X
no contradiction and you know , you're looking to speak for me which is how you came to the faulty position in your unfunny pic
yes Nasser succeeded at being popular however that didn't shit for him when it came to winning contests and did you miss the part where I said he was pretty successful at making good money as a pro? it depends on the context , if we're talking about being a success at entering and winning pro shows than NO he wasn't very successful at that and you can't argue facts
Team Nasser touts him as something he's not , much better than he actually was.
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You might be mistaken Shabalabdingdong..... What you think was applause for Nasser was actually laughter. I remember back in 98 at the "O" Wayne Demilia actually had to ask the audience to stop laughing every time Nasser hit a "back" (lol) shot.
I think the ridiculous difference between Ronnie's Back and Nasser's just made people laugh. I'm not making this up.
Even my GF at the time, who didn't know BBing.... said this..."that guy looks really big from the front but he looks fat from the back, the other guys backs look like their fronts...all muscley'
I'm obviously joking in the first part of my post but those were her exact words
was your GF at that time accepting to take pics of you or like the current one she wasn't?..
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no contradiction and you know , you're looking to speak for me which is how you came to the faulty position in your unfunny pic
yes Nasser succeeded at being popular however that didn't shit for him when it came to winning contests and did you miss the part where I said he was pretty successful at making good money as a pro? it depends on the context , if we're talking about being a success at entering and winning pro shows than NO he wasn't very successful at that and you can't argue facts
Team Nasser touts him as something he's not , much better than he actually was.
if you were a judge at mr. olympia 1997 who was going to be your choice to win the show??.. answer honestly plz and try to put dorian's cok out of your mouth till you answer this then return it back..
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if you were a judge at mr. olympia 1997 who was going to be your choice to win the show??.. answer honestly plz and try to put dorian's cok out of your mouth till you answer this then return it back..
I would have to be at that show to make an honest opinion , I know from pics and video , Dorian clearly lost the standing relaxed from the front , front double biceps , the ab-thigh is close you could make a case for either , front latspread I think Dorian beats him , from the sides I think Dorian wins and from the back forget it . and I'm not the one with a Facebook for a competitive bodybuilder so when you're making gay references you should think twice :-X
Nasser Mr Olympia from the front :-\
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I would have to be at that show to make an honest opinion , I know from pics and video , Dorian clearly lost the standing relaxed from the front , front double biceps , the ab-thigh is close you could make a case for either , front latspread I think Dorian beats him , from the sides I think Dorian wins and from the back forget it . and I'm not the one with a Facebook for a competitive bodybuilder so when you're making gay references you should think twice :-X
Nasser Mr Olympia from the front :-\
and what about relaxed side poses??.. to remind you dorian had no left arm and it was sure clear when he showed his left relaxed side pose!!..
ok i will simplify my question but again plz keep yates's cok out of your mouth for one more minute till you answer me.. if you must choose a winner of mr. olympia 97 after seeing all the pics and videos of the show, who will be your choice??.. just name a person with no more details..
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and what about relaxed side poses??.. to remind you dorian had no left arm and it was sure clear when he showed his left relaxed side pose!!..
ok i will simplify my question but again plz keep yates's cok out of your mouth for one more minute till you answer me.. if you must choose a winner of mr. olympia 97 after seeing all the pics and videos of the show, who will be your choice??.. just name a person with no more details..
Okay so he also lost the left 1/4 turn
and like I've said many times before lets give Nasser 1997 what did he accomplish? beating a career worse Dorian lol keep it , Dorian at his best tramples Nasser so you still get no where Mr Moron ;)
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Okay so he also lost the left 1/4 turn
and like I've said many times before lets give Nasser 1997 what did he accomplish? beating a career worse Dorian lol keep it , Dorian at his best tramples Nasser so you still get no where Mr Moron ;)
no man it's not about dorian, it's about the olympia.. this unfair decision prevented nasser from being mr. olympia, same can be same about mr. olympia 2007 and victor..
but again you are contradicting yourself because you always say shit about the physique of the guy who you agree should have won the olympia in the most competitive time!!..
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no man it's not about dorian, it's about the olympia.. this unfair decision prevented nasser from being mr. olympia, same can be same about mr. olympia 2007 and victor..
but again you are contradicting yourself because you always say shit about the physique of the guy who you agree should have won the olympia in the most competitive time!!..
You're not a judge , you didn't and still don't know how contests are judged. your opinion is shit you wouldn't know if it was fair or unfair because you don't even know how the game is played
if 1997 was unfair any contest Nasser won was unfair as well
Nasser won the 1997 Mr Olympia from the front to bad the judges didn't stop there ;)
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You're not a judge , you didn't and still don't know how contests are judged. your opinion is shit you wouldn't know if it was fair or unfair because you don't even know how the game is played
if 1997 was unfair any contest Nasser won was unfair as well
Nasser won the 1997 Mr Olympia from the front to bad the judges didn't stop there ;)
you yourself agree that nasser deserved to win the olympia in 1997!!.. so according to you too it was unfair decision.. what has changed your opinion?!!.. has you returned the cok back in your mouth?..
i am not a fan of victor martinez but i see he deserved to win in 2007 and i am a big fan of nasser and i see he didnt deserve to win in 1995 so i am really saying what i see amd not what i like to see!!..
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you yourself agree that nasser deserved to win the olympia in 1997!!.. so according to you too it was unfair decision.. what has changed your opinion?!!.. has you returned the cok back in your mouth?..
i am not a fan of victor martinez but i see he deserved to win in 2007 and i am a big fan of nasser and i see he didnt deserve to win in 1995 so i am really saying what i see amd not what i like to see!!..
stop speaking for me , I never said he deserved to win , he won a majority of the front shots and maybe the 1/4 turn to the left he LOST all others , therefore he didn't beat Dorian
if you think the judges are wrong in 1997 then they were also wrong at every contest Nasser won , you can't have it two ways , the contests are unfair when you disagree with the outcome but when you do then the judges are correct
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1995 Houston Pro 1st unfair
1995 Night of Champions 1st unfair
1996 Grand Prix Czech 1st unfair
1996 Grand Prix Switzerland 1st unfair
1996 Grand Prix Russia 1st unfair
1999 Arnold Classic 1st unfair
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stop speaking for me , I never said he deserved to win , he won a majority of the front shots and maybe the 1/4 turn to the left he LOST all others , therefore he didn't beat Dorian
if you think the judges are wrong in 1997 then they were also wrong at every contest Nasser won , you can't have it two ways , the contests are unfair when you disagree with the outcome but when you do then the judges are correct
so according to you all bb contests results are fair ::).. so to see franco with no legs and clear gyno winning the olympia it's fair.. and to see dorian with a deformed arm and a pregnant belly winning the olympia it's fair!!..
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so according to you all bb contests results are fair ::).. so to see franco with no legs and clear gyno winning the olympia it's fair.. and to see dorian with a deformed arm and a pregnant belly winning the olympia it's fair!!..
NO a Nasser winning in 1997 with ZERO back would be fair ::)
yes I think all contests are fair , learn how they're judged and come to the conclusion fixing a contest is highly improbable
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NO a Nasser winning in 1997 with ZERO back would be fair ::)
yes I think all contests are fair , learn how they're judged and come to the conclusion fixing a contest is highly improbable
Yes That is what i say...Nasser was more incomplete than anyone. his back was worse than peter putnams.
You can give him a slight edge in one or two contests against Doz from the front, but when Yates was on he more than held his own.....But from the Back every top guy in the last 20 years COMPLETELY OWNS him.
It was funny watching that clip because the announcer was saying really good stuff about Nasser until he turned around...then you could hear a pin drop, like the guy was just waiting for him to finish his back poses so he could start saying good things again.
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No shit, Nasser was 280, Flex was 224, but he looked better and had better detail. Flex also won the Most Muscular Award as well. Hmmm, and in 1999 when Nasser won the AC, Kevin Levrone also won the Most Muscular Award, so you can't argue that it only goes to the winner of the AC.
it's more than the amount, it's he quality. For such a big dude, he lacked quality where it counts, his back detail. Now, why is that. Was he such a egomaniac that he thought only his size counted? Did he fall into the trap of quanity over quality? Even Flex fell into later on, it sometimes claims the best and most level headed bbers.
Nasser had no clue how to properly perform back exercises. He knew how to heave around heavy weights but contractions now that is a different story.
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it's not considered like this at all!!.. shawn ray is one of the best and he won only 2 contests during his long career!!..
wow I didn't know that, and he entered more shows than Nasser so using ND's statistics he was very unsuccesful and had an unimpressive career lol
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wow I didn't know that, and he entered more shows than Nasser so using ND's statistics he was very unsuccesful and had an unimpressive career lol
Can you learn to spell successful? you're just missing one letter lol it's bothering me now
you're damn right Shawn Ray's career was unimpressive 2 fucking wins if you're impressed with that you need to check out Levrone's career , oh wait you already know it ;)
Shawn was consistent throughout his career he gets credit for that and Nasser was pretty consistent for a time then he fell off the map
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NO a Nasser winning in 1997 with ZERO back would be fair ::)
yes I think all contests are fair , learn how they're judged and come to the conclusion fixing a contest is highly improbable
aha so nasser winning the olympia with his back lacks some details would be unfair but dorian winning it with a totally deformed arm is fair!!..
you said before that you personally saw nasser better than dorian on that day!!..
i disagree with you because in a sport like bb it's IMPOSSIBLE for judges to be fair all the time even if they want!!.. it's a matter of taste after all and it's not a "1 + 1 = 2" sport!!.. fans cant just "amen" to any contest result all the time!!..
so according to you it was fair to place aron paker 12 or whatever in the olympia of 94!!.. and it was fair to place a guy like gunter 4th or so in 2005 or whatever!!.. ::)
you are a big asshole, now this is fair ;D
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Yes That is what i say...Nasser was more incomplete than anyone. his back was worse than peter putnams.
You can give him a slight edge in one or two contests against Doz from the front, but when Yates was on he more than held his own.....But from the Back every top guy in the last 20 years COMPLETELY OWNS him.
It was funny watching that clip because the announcer was saying really good stuff about Nasser until he turned around...then you could hear a pin drop, like the guy was just waiting for him to finish his back poses so he could start saying good things again.
nasser's back was not deformed, it only lacked some details exactly the same as dorian's quads at mr. olympia 97, they were smooth and lacked details.. but sure dorian was more incomplete than all the others, it's just stupid to give the ultimate title of bodyBUILDING to a man with a totally DESTROYED arm!!.. see the irony!!..
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aha so nasser winning the olympia with his back lacks some details would be unfair but dorian winning it with a totally deformed arm is fair!!..
you said before that you personally saw nasser better than dorian on that day!!..
i disagree with you because in a sport like bb it's IMPOSSIBLE for judges to be fair all the time even if they want!!.. it's a matter of taste after all and it's not a "1 + 1 = 2" sport!!.. fans cant just "amen" to any contest result all the time!!..
so according to you it was fair to place aron paker 12 or whatever in the olympia of 94!!.. and it was fair to place a guy like gunter 4th or so in 2005 or whatever!!.. ::)
you are a big asshole, now this is fair ;D
How old are you?
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aha so nasser winning the olympia with his back lacks some details would be unfair but dorian winning it with a totally deformed arm is fair!!..
you said before that you personally saw nasser better than dorian on that day!!..
i disagree with you because in a sport like bb it's IMPOSSIBLE for judges to be fair all the time even if they want!!.. it's a matter of taste after all and it's not a "1 + 1 = 2" sport!!.. fans cant just "amen" to any contest result all the time!!..
so according to you it was fair to place aron paker 12 or whatever in the olympia of 94!!.. and it was fair to place a guy like gunter 4th or so in 2005 or whatever!!.. ::)
you are a big asshole, now this is fair ;D
Lol.
Exactly. In a subjective sport, the only opinions that matter are those of the judges, since its their opinions that decided who is gonna win the shows.
So really, youre the asshole. lol.
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How old are you?
12 why?
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12 why?
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IMO, the back's musculature is so much more impressive when highly developed than the rest of the body that it can make or break a contest, even if said bodybuilder has a pretty decent front. Nasser not only had this problem, but he didn't seem good from the side either, his frame just doesn't look right from a lot of angles, I can't put my finger on why, but it doesn't flow.
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IMO, the back's musculature is so much more impressive when highly developed than the rest of the body that it can make or break a contest, even if said bodybuilder has a pretty decent front. Nasser not only had this problem, but he didn't seem good from the side either, his frame just doesn't look right from a lot of angles, I can't put my finger on why, but it doesn't flow.
your right the dude looked like he was over 300 pounds from front then somehow from back he looked no more then 250, then the side of his body had a structural flaw with shallow shoulders, and flat back.
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your right the dude looked like he was over 300 pounds from front then somehow from back he looked no more then 250, then the side of his body had a structural flaw with shallow shoulders, and flat back.
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The important thing to remember is NASSER IS A COCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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There is nothing in the world can justify Nasser’s second place on that contest. Although I am a huge flex wheeler fan, but Nassir clearly dwarfed him there.
Nasser of 1995 to early 1999, was, is and will be the best symmetrical mass monster with eye pleasing shape and lines. NO OTHER MASS MONSTER can come close.
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The important thing to remember is NASSER IS A COCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this is only in case you are a pussy :-X
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There is nothing in the world can justify Nasser’s second place on that contest. Although I am a huge flex wheeler fan, but Nassir clearly dwarfed him there.
Nasser of 1995 to early 1999, was, is and will be the best symmetrical mass monster with eye pleasing shape and lines. NO OTHER MASS MONSTER can come close.
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if there was no one called kevin levrone would you have joined team nasser??..
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if there was no one called kevin levrone would you have joined team nasser??..
;D ;D
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Well, I am a more of shape and eye pleasing lines man, and honestly the last I thing I care about is HUGE MASS.
For me Quality over Quantity all the time, have a look at my updated top 6 bodybuilders ever, and you will know what I am taking about.
1-Kevin Levrone
2-Phil Heath
3-Shawn Ray
4-Flex Wheeler (pre Synthol)
5-Ahmed Haider
6-Chris Cormmeir.
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There is nothing in the world can justify Nasser’s second place on that contest. Although I am a huge flex wheeler fan, but Nassir clearly dwarfed him there.
Nasser of 1995 to early 1999, was, is and will be the best symmetrical mass monster with eye pleasing shape and lines. NO OTHER MASS MONSTER can come close.
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Dillett, was the more symmetrical mass monster---better shape, muscle size, muscle fullness-roundness. And Dorian himself said Dillett was a clear threat.
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Dillett, was the more symmetrical mass monster---better shape, muscle size, muscle fullness-roundness. And Dorian himself said Dillett was a clear threat.
Please read my full comments, I said Nasser is the best mass monster with symmetrical body and eye pleasing lines.
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Please read my full comments, I said Nasser is the best mass monster with symmetrical body and eye pleasing lines.
Please read what I said, Dillett has the eye pleasing lines--far more so than Nasser.
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Please read what I said, Dillett has the eye pleasing lines--far more so than Nasser.
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Outch :-X
Thanks for replying in my behalf :P
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Please read what I said, Dillett has the eye pleasing lines--far more so than Nasser.
gotta disagree........there is NOTHING eye pleasing about paul dillet, not his looks, not his lines, not his posing, nothing
nasser owned dillet, and im not a particular fan of nasser
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nasser was better than dillet in ALL poses!!..
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aha so nasser winning the olympia with his back lacks some details would be unfair but dorian winning it with a totally deformed arm is fair!!..
you said before that you personally saw nasser better than dorian on that day!!..
i disagree with you because in a sport like bb it's IMPOSSIBLE for judges to be fair all the time even if they want!!.. it's a matter of taste after all and it's not a "1 + 1 = 2" sport!!.. fans cant just "amen" to any contest result all the time!!..
so according to you it was fair to place aron paker 12 or whatever in the olympia of 94!!.. and it was fair to place a guy like gunter 4th or so in 2005 or whatever!!.. ::)
you are a big asshole, now this is fair ;D
aha so nasser winning the olympia with his back lacks some details would be unfair but dorian winning it with a totally deformed arm is fair!!..
Some back details? another attempt at Team Delusional to try and minimize his overwhelming flaw , no his back isn't just missing some details , it's missing proportionate thickness for a competitor his size , it's missing depth , it's missing separation and density. The back is a huge and complex group much more so than smaller muscles like the bicep and triceps
you said before that you personally saw nasser better than dorian on that day!!..
In some poses absolutely , overall NO I never said that stop making shit up , just like your stupid quote that I claimed " Nasser didn't have the structure to be a mass-monster ' which is or course another lie on your part , when in fact I've said many times Nasser carried his mass exceptionally well
i disagree with you because in a sport like bb it's IMPOSSIBLE for judges to be fair all the time even if they want!!.. it's a matter of taste after all and it's not a "1 + 1 = 2" sport!!.. fans cant just "amen" to any contest result all the time!!..
No the judges are only fair when you agree with the results ::) give me a break. all of Nasser's contest wins the judges managed to be ' fair ' but when he lost they weren't ::)
so according to you it was fair to place aron paker 12 or whatever in the olympia of 94!!.. and it was fair to place a guy like gunter 4th or so in 2005 or whatever!!.. ::)
" So according to you " ::) no according to the judges but again the judges are only right when you happen to agree with them and whenever there is any question it's unfair not how it works
you are a big asshole, now this is fair ;D
getting frustrated little man? must suck living in a world where you have to constantly make excuses for your hero's shortcomings
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gotta disagree........there is NOTHING eye pleasing about paul dillet, not his looks, not his lines, not his posing, nothing
nasser owned dillet, and im not a particular fan of nasser
the question is WHY??
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the question is WHY??
:P ;D
i think you guys have it covered
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Outch :-X
Thanks for replying in my behalf :P
at your service bro. 8)
as long as you see the wizard better than the other guy we are comparing with :P
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Some back details? another attempt at Team Delusional to try and minimize his overwhelming flaw , no his back isn't just missing some details , it's missing proportionate thickness for a competitor his size , it's missing depth , it's missing separation and density. The back is a huge and complex group much more so than smaller muscles like the bicep and triceps
In some poses absolutely , overall NO I never said that stop making shit up , just like your stupid quote that I claimed " Nasser didn't have the structure to be a mass-monster ' which is or course another lie on your part , when in fact I've said many times Nasser carried his mass exceptionally well
No the judges are only fair when you agree with the results ::) give me a break. all of Nasser's contest wins the judges managed to be ' fair ' but when he lost they weren't ::)
" So according to you " ::) no according to the judges but again the judges are only right when you happen to agree with them and whenever there is any question it's unfair not how it works
getting frustrated little man? must suck living in a world where you have to constantly make excuses for your hero's shortcomings
no you said before that nasser was not built to be a mass monster and you are changing your words now because i kept making fun of your assholness.. and yes you said that you saw nasser better than dorian (in general) in 1997 but still could understand why dorian won!!.. contradiction at its best..
i never say shit about the judges decisions when i see them fair.. IMO dorian deserved to win mr. olymia 95 and i see it was a fair decision.. but still nasser deserved to come 2nd on that day.. sorry alnassak :P
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nasser was better than dillet in ALL poses!!..
Congrats, you just showed how superior Dillett was aesthetically to Nasser. Smaller waist, fuller muscle bellies, better legs, ab and arm detail. Nasser would have to be reborn with diff genetics to be more aesthetic than that.
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no you said before that nasser was not built to be a mass monster and you are changing your words now because i kept making fun of your assholness.. and yes you said that you saw nasser better than dorian (in general) in 1997 but still could understand why dorian won!!.. contradiction at its best..
i never say shit about the judges decisions when i see them fair.. IMO dorian deserved to win mr. olymia 95 and i see it was a fair decision.. but still nasser deserved to come 2nd on that day.. sorry alnassak :P
and you ND also said before that fux had a small waist and he was a mr. olympia material ::)
unless it would be very boring i was going to check your posts to underline many assholeness coming out of your mouth.. the same mouth that keeps dorian's cok all the time :-X
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stop talking about assholes... we all know you like boys more then girls allready...
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stop talking about assholes... we all know you like boys more then girls allready...
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sorry mr. asshole i have hurt your feelings :-X
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no you said before that nasser was not built to be a mass monster and you are changing your words now because i kept making fun of your assholness.. and yes you said that you saw nasser better than dorian (in general) in 1997 but still could understand why dorian won!!.. contradiction at its best..
i never say shit about the judges decisions when i see them fair.. IMO dorian deserved to win mr. olymia 95 and i see it was a fair decision.. but still nasser deserved to come 2nd on that day.. sorry alnassak :P
I never said that you moron , find the post I dare you ;) I said it didn't ultimately work in his favor to play mass monster because his back suffered for it as did any hope to win the Olympia
I never once said Nasser was better than Dorian in general you're a liar , I've said I don't think Dorian should have won in 1997 but Nasser did NOT beat him on that day and I can understand why the judges picked Dorian. you're getting frustrated because you're making things up and calling people ' assholes ' calm down , take a few deep breathes it's gonna be okay
LMFAO in your opinion Dorian deserved to win in 1995 LMMFAO no fucking shit he did , there is NO question you're not doing anyone a favor by admitting the blatantly obvious , hey in your opinion did he deserve to win in 1993 too? LMFAO
bottom line , Nasser is NOT as good as you think he is , these are facts
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BTW, that pic shows Nasser flexed---he crunching down on his abs and flexing his legs. Dillet has yet to crunch down on his abs, as evident of his abs being relaxed and him not flexing "downward", and his legs aren't flex. You and bobs always throw up that pic, when it is clearly evident of the lack of flexing.
Let's be honest, Nasser is a hall of famer, but will not be in the same sentence of Flex, Levrone, Chris, Ronnie, Dorian, Lee Haney...
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Congrats, you just showed how superior Dillett was aesthetically to Nasser. Smaller waist, fuller muscle bellies, better legs, ab and arm detail. Nasser would have to be reborn with diff genetics to be more aesthetic than that.
hahahahaaa.. you are quit a character my friend.. i have to add you in my hilarious "bodybuilding mountian" pic. and call you mr. blind ;D
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BTW, that pic shows Nasser flexed---he crunching down on his abs and flexing his legs. Dillet has yet to crunch down on his abs, as evident of his abs being relaxed and him not flexing "downward", and his legs aren't flex. You and bobs always throw up that pic, when it is clearly evident of the lack of flexing.
Let's be honest, Nasser is a hall of famer, but will not be in the same sentence of Flex, Levrone, Chris, Ronnie, Dorian, Lee Haney...
believe it or not i posted ALL pics i found of the 2 of them beside each other but because dillet was not called a lot by the judges to be compared to nasser i couldn't find many pics.
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and if you can find more pics of both of them beside each other when both were in their best years plz do post here..
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and you ND also said before that fux had a small waist and he was a mr. olympia material ::)
unless it would be very boring i was going to check your posts to underline many assholeness coming out of your mouth.. the same mouth that keeps dorian's cok all the time :-X
Once again making up lies , I said Fux had a narrow waist. You keep falling flat on your face when you are reduced to lying ;) and Fux was absolutely Mr Olympia material he had all the tools to win it
hahahahahaha you seem to talk an awful lot about ' cock ' what's on your mind? :-X then again what would one expect when you have a Facebook page dedicated to a guy who sells used briefs :-X
keep outing yourself one post at a time little man
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hahahahaaa.. you are quit a character my friend.. i have to add you in my hilarious "bodybuilding mountian" pic. and call you mr. blind ;D
Are you talking about yourself. Paul is not flexing his abs---he has some very impressive abs, in fact his serratus are far more impressive than Nasser, but Paul is not crunched down---jn fact he is standing upright. And his quads are not Flexed. When the quads are flexed like Nasser's you can see the seperation throughout all of the quad muscles--you can see Paul is standing relaxed.
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Nasser was third tier at best.
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Congrats, you just showed how superior Dillett was aesthetically to Nasser. Smaller waist, fuller muscle bellies, better legs, ab and arm detail. Nasser would have to be reborn with diff genetics to be more aesthetic than that.
The problem with Nasser in that pose is that he "tries" too hard. He is way too tense and tries to flex every muscle group including abs which makes him look smaller than he is. It definitely worked against him when battling Dorian who really extends and Nasser doing exact opposite. Trying to showcase your abs in front latspread... well same goes if you try that when hitting front double bi's. Not gonna work!
That reminds me. Sherief - what is your take on Nasser's posing skills overall?
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Are you talking about yourself. Paul is not flexing his abs---he has some very impressive abs, in fact his serratus are far more impressive than Nasser, but Paul is not crunched down---jn fact he is standing upright. And his quads are not Flexed. When the quads are flexed like Nasser's you can see the seperation throughout all of the quad muscles--you can see Paul is standing relaxed.
stop your blala bla bla as it's very boring to read and check these pics.. dont tell me all these pics are selective ::).. nasser was better than dillet in all poses as you see even the back db pose which was nasser's by far weakest pose and his only relatively weak pose..
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The problem with Nasser in that pose is that he "tries" too hard. He is way too tense and tries to flex every muscle group including abs which makes him look smaller than he is. It definitely worked against him when battling Dorian who really extends and Nasser doing exact opposite. Trying to showcase your abs in front latspread... well same goes if you try that when hitting front double bi's. Not gonna work!
That reminds me. Sherief - what is your take on Nasser's posing skills overall?
sorry i just noticed your comment!!.. i agree with you that nasser was hitting certain poses in a wrong way till 1995.. but later he improved his posing.. check him at mr. olympia 1997 he was hitting this pose (FLS) perfectly..
by the way mr. "dont get dorian's cok out of my mouth" ND sees that dorian was better than nasser in this pose in 1997!!.. check the below pic plz and tell me your opinion ::)
as for my opinion on nasser's posing skills in general i say he was not vinice taylor of course but he was not paul dillet!!.. if i give vinice 9/10 and paul 3/10 i give nasser 6/10!!..
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sorry i just noticed your comment!!.. i agree with you that nasser was hitting certain poses in a wrong way till 1995.. but later he improved his posing.. check him at mr. olympia 1997 he was hitting this pose (FLS) perfectly..
by the way mr. "dont get dorian's cok out of my mouth" ND sees that dorian was better than nasser in this pose in 1997!!.. check the below pic plz and tell me your opinion ::)
as for my opinion on nasser's posing skills in general i say he was not vinice taylor of course but he was not paul dillet!!.. if i give vinice 9/10 and paul 3/10 i give nasser 6/10!!..
Dorian wins
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Nasser was third tier at best.
Nasser was one of the most complete Super-Heavyweights of all time. ::)
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Nasser was one of the most complete Super-Heavyweights of all time. ::)
from the front
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Dorian wins
dorian's quads were flat and soft in this year.. nasser's were clearly bigger, harder and more detailed.. also look at how nasser's chest was thicker??.. and how his arms were much bigger?!..
here is another shot from the same show!!..
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Sherief - That's a very tough comparision right there between those two so I really couldn't decide(I'm not talking about the pic but the Olympia as a whole). Who should've won the 1997 Olympia? My first impression was when I saw the footage like 8 years ago that Nasser was clear winner but over the years since my knowledge has increased Ï couldn't decide which one should've won. That is something that always splits opinions and people have good arguments both ways. I think it's "easier" to say Nasser was better because he had no torn muscles but there are so many other factors to include that makes the decision making hard for me.
As you said Nasser did improve his posing. I would presume that Nasser did everything that he could to improve his stage presence. He certainly had the physique but he just wasn't natural performer like the Levrone, Wheeler and Ray.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=326724.0;attach=366683;image)
Dorian is destroying Noisy Oil SoiledManty right thurr :o
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dorian's quads were flat and soft in this year.. nasser's were clearly bigger, harder and more detailed.. also look at how nasser's chest was thicker??.. and how his arms were much bigger?!..
here is another shot from the same show!!..
They were neither flat or soft , you're wrong in fact they were much bigger than 1996 when they really were flat ! you're only looking at the parts you think he wins in NOT how contests are judged kid
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=326724.0;attach=366683;image)
Dorian is destroying Noisy Oil SoiledManty right thurr :o
I think he's clearly beating Nasser in this shot. but Mr Moron see what he wants :-\
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Sherief - That's a very tough comparision right there between those two so I really couldn't decide(I'm not talking about the pic but the Olympia as a whole). Who should've won the 1997 Olympia? My first impression was when I saw the footage like 8 years ago that Nasser was clear winner but over the years since my knowledge has increased Ï couldn't decide which one should've won. That is something that always splits opinions and people have good arguments both ways. I think it's "easier" to say Nasser was better because he had no torn muscles but there are so many other factors to include that makes the decision making hard for me.
As you said Nasser did improve his posing. I would presume that Nasser did everything that he could to improve his stage presence. He certainly had the physique but he just wasn't natural performer like the Levrone, Wheeler and Ray.
it was not only his one whole missing arm but also the lack of symmetry between his right and his left and the over all lack of symmetry between his different parts with his back overpowering the rest of his upper body and his calves overpowering his upper legs!!.. in all poses dorian's arms appeared small for his wide torso and his chest looked flat.. dont forget he didnt train his upper body for 3 weeks before the contest!!..
dorian was a fighter to compete after his severe injury but this doesnt mean to make him beat other better guys!!.. the strange thing that tells you how "blind" those judges were is that none of them noticed dorian's new injury during the show!!.. they knew about it just like us later when dorian narrated the details!!..
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=326724.0;attach=366683;image)
Dorian is destroying Noisy Oil SoiledManty right thurr :o
tell me how??.. ::)
may be at his best he was better than nasser at his best in this pose but not in 1997!!..
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tell me how??.. ::)
may be at his best he was better than nasser at his best in this pose but not in 1997!!..
Nassers musculature looks soft compared to Dorians in those photos.
Im still gonna give it to Dorian, based on better conditioning, but Dorian was really starting to go downhill in 97.
If Nasser had any semblence of a back Id say Nasser should have won that show.
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Nassers musculature looks soft compared to Dorians in those photos.
Im still gonna give it to Dorian, based on better conditioning, but Dorian was really starting to go downhill in 97.
If Nasser had any semblence of a back Id say Nasser should have won that show.
actually if nasser's back was the same level of cormier's for example he would have won all the contests he ever entered starting from 1995 including mr. olympia 95!!..
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Congrats again, you showed that Dillet had better abs...serratus, intercorsals all present and looking great. All the greats that were known for great abs had the serratus and inters...Shawn, Flex, Levrone, Haney, Lebrada, Zane, Cormier, Claimonte, Gurley, Nubret
Nasser had a better upper back than Dillet, he was all traps and delts, from there on down he had just a mass of muscle going down. He severely lacked detail. And Nasser had a better, way better lat spread. But both their back detail sucked.
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actually if nasser's back was the same level of cormier's for example he would have won all the contests he ever entered starting from 1995 including mr. olympia 95!!..
Lol. Not even close, but keep dreaming.
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actually if nasser's back was the same level of cormier's for example he would have won all the contests he ever entered starting from 1995 including mr. olympia 95!!..
lmfao none of your pictures are funny but this post is ;D
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Epic Flex makin nasser look a fool :D
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tell me how??.. ::)
Dorian looks drier, his delts are more capped out, his arm-delt tie ins are better, his back pops out more, better taper etc. Pretty much all the stuff ND has mentioned heaps of times before. And I'm talking about that one pic, so don't worry about posting a whole bunch of other pics to try and disprove any of that - not necessary at all.
That aside, I mainly made that post cause I was looking for an excuse to insert my latest Nasser nickname in there somewhere ;D
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actually if nasser's back was the same level of cormier's for example he would have won all the contests he ever entered starting from 1995 including mr. olympia 95!!..
If my grandmother had balls...she'd be my grandfather.
he still only had mediocre muscle quality on his whole body, his back was just that much worse....it was disgusting to look at
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If my grandmother had balls...she'd be my grandfather.
he still only had mediocre muscle quality on his whole body, his back was just that much worse....it was disgusting to look at
Groink, when is your book slated for delivery with complete details on Nasser and the Team? I know you gathering material on a daily basis from these posts.
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Groink, when is your book slated for delivery with complete details on Nasser and the Team? I know you gathering material on a daily basis from these posts.
Yes...I am in negotiations with various publishers, but Nasser has been trying to get an injunction to stop my book from coming out, because he know once mine comes out no one will even bother to read his. It's a very tricky situation and i can't say much :D
I will also have EXCLUSIVE photos of me punching Nasser in the face, throwing him down a flight of stairs and putting firecrackers up his nose and lighting them
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Yes...I am in negotiations with various publishers, but Nasser has been trying to get an injunction to stop my book from coming out, because he know once mine comes out no one will even bother to read his. It's a very tricky situation and i can't say much :D
I will also have EXCLUSIVE photos of me punching Nasser in the face, throwing him down a flight of stairs and putting firecrackers up his nose and lighting them
;D
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Dorian looks drier, his delts are more capped out, his arm-delt tie ins are better, his back pops out more, better taper etc. Pretty much all the stuff ND has mentioned heaps of times before. And I'm talking about that one pic, so don't worry about posting a whole bunch of other pics to try and disprove any of that - not necessary at all.
That aside, I mainly made that post cause I was looking for an excuse to insert my latest Nasser nickname in there somewhere ;D
so you noticed that dorian was drier but didnt notice how his arms looked very small for his torso and how his chest looked flat and relatively small.. and yes his delts were more capped (in this pose) but again they were relatively small.. and his quads were as detailed as nasser's back!!..
before saying your opinion you must know first how contests are judged :-X ;D
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lmfao none of your pictures are funny but this post is ;D
but you said before that some of my pics were funny!!.. why are you changing your words now?!.. oh ya i forgot, this is typical you like the all nonsense you had said then changed your words when i kept underlining your assholness :-X
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If my grandmother had balls...she'd be my grandfather.
he still only had mediocre muscle quality on his whole body, his back was just that much worse....it was disgusting to look at
if you didnt have a droopy chest you would have posted more decent topless pics :-X
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Yes...I am in negotiations with various publishers, but Nasser has been trying to get an injunction to stop my book from coming out, because he know once mine comes out no one will even bother to read his. It's a very tricky situation and i can't say much :D
I will also have EXCLUSIVE photos of me punching Nasser in the face, throwing him down a flight of stairs and putting firecrackers up his nose and lighting them
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how old are you again??..
;D
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but you said before that some of my pics were funny!!.. why are you changing your words now?!.. oh ya i forgot, this is typical you like the all nonsense you had said then changed your words when i kept underlining your assholness :-X
meltdown ;)
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meltdown ;)
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if you didnt have a droopy chest you would have posted more decent topless pics :-X
speaking if which...what ever happened to those new abdominal pics you were gonna post "tomorrow" about a MONTH ago ?
Still not lean enough? ;)
It's OK sherif...we all get old. imagine what you will look like when you are my age :P
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::) nothing , when you're reduced to lying ( like you ) and personal attacks ( like you ) you've conceded you have nothing else to offer except a meltdown
you're a frustrated little man nothing new , continue to post lies so I can expose you ;)
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speaking if which...what ever happened to those new abdominal pics you were gonna post "tomorrow" about a MONTH ago ?
Still not lean enough? ;)
It's OK sherif...we all get old. imagine what you will look like when you are my age :P
seriously gronk i look now better than any form of me during the last 2 years.. i am clearly bigger and nearly the same BF%.. will prove what i am saying soon ;)
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::) nothing , when you're reduced to lying ( like you ) and personal attacks ( like you ) you've conceded you have nothing else to offer except a meltdown
you're a frustrated little man nothing new , continue to post lies so I can expose you ;)
in ss's defense you just made a personal attack ;D
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in ss's defense you just made a personal attack ;D
No that was a fact he is frustrated and he is little ;)
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in ss's defense you just made a personal attack ;D
he does this all the time but i give him an execuse,.. he is upset as i always show contradictions in all what he says!!..
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he does this all the time but i give him an execuse,.. he is upset as i always show contradictions in all what he says!!..
does anybody have a score sheet for the 97 ac like points to show how close it was??
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he does this all the time but i give him an execuse,.. he is upset as i always show contradictions in all what he says!!..
hahahahaha says Mr Liar ;)
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does anybody have a score sheet for the 97 ac like points to show how close it was??
dorian won with perfect scores :-\
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dorian won with perfect scores :-\
Dorian didn't win the 1997 ASC ;)
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Dorian didn't win the 1997 ASC ;)
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i thought he was asking about the olympia ;D
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so you noticed that dorian was drier but didnt notice how his arms looked very small for his torso and how his chest looked flat and relatively small.. and yes his delts were more capped (in this pose) but again they were relatively small.. and his quads were as detailed as nasser's back!!..
before saying your opinion you must know first how contests are judged :-X ;D
Heres my problem;
You continuously tell people they dont know how contests are judged, but you always saying that Nasser should have won this, and that, but the judges dont agree with you.
So doesnt that make you the one that doesnt understand how contests are judged? ???
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movie star good looks on nasshole
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Heres my problem;
You continuously tell people they dont know how contests are judged, but you always saying that Nasser should have won this, and that, but the judges dont agree with you.
So doesnt that make you the one that doesnt understand how contests are judged? ???
i was making fun of ND who always says this :-\
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i was making fun of ND who always says this :-\
It's true , you don't and a majority of your claims contradict reality
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i was making fun of ND who always says this :-\
What about that picture of Nasserhole hitting you with the dildo in your face...Did you enjoy it?
I know what a stupid question, of course you enjoyed it.
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seriously gronk i look now better than any form of me during the last 2 years.. i am clearly bigger and nearly the same BF%.. will prove what i am saying soon ;)
translation : i don't have abs anymore and it's not as easy as i thought it was to get them back ;)
You've been saying how great you look for 4 months...i have a 12 inch cock, I'll post a pic of it soon ::)
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What about that picture of Nasserhole hitting you with the dildo in your face...Did you enjoy it?
I know what a stupid question, of course you enjoyed it.
Answer the god damn question Sheriff salami.. ;D
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What about that picture of Nasserhole hitting you with the dildo in your face...Did you enjoy it?
I know what a stupid question, of course you enjoyed it.
i think thats a yes lol , no pun intended
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i think thats a yes lol , no pun intended
some thing tells me that Sheriff. salami has an anal intruder in his arse, while Nasser slaps him with the dildo.
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no you said before that nasser was not built to be a mass monster and you are changing your words now because i kept making fun of your assholness.. and yes you said that you saw nasser better than dorian (in general) in 1997 but still could understand why dorian won!!.. contradiction at its best..
i never say shit about the judges decisions when i see them fair.. IMO dorian deserved to win mr. olymia 95 and i see it was a fair decision.. but still nasser deserved to come 2nd on that day.. sorry alnassak :P
I don’t think anyone with torn\missing muscles should win any Olympia, regardless their size and condition.
In 95 I don’t see Dorian even make the top 3 !!
Kevin, Nasser & Shawn were better and more complete than him.
It is not Back and Calves contest!! It is FULL BODY BUILDING.
However Kevin in 95 was Magnificent work of art to be compare to Nassir
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Comparing how kevin looks nowadays and how nasser looks now... it's no contest... kevin destroys him...