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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Matt C on September 16, 2010, 09:11:28 PM
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Layne will be making his pro debut this weekend at the IFPA Pro International in Kansas City, Kansas.
Between 2002-2006 I think the majority opinion was that he was natural. Since then I feel that the majority opinion is that he uses. Discuss.
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I just pm'd gh15.
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I just pm'd gh15.
Hey thanks man!!
Never mind, the picture is old. From Layne:
thanks so much everyone. actually the picture posted in the first page is 11 weeks out. my avatar is 8 weeks out. I will post pics the morning of the show in this thread for you guys
Regardless, a thread I had been meaning to post recently was with the question of what the consensus was regarding Layne. From what I gather reading the boards I would say the consensus is that Layne is not natural. Is that accurate?
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he looks incredibly mediocre
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pro debut
pro debut? ???
what's the prize money?
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he looks incredibly mediocre
Really? He would literally be one of the top five best built men in the city I am in. He must be a lean 200+ at 5'10 and 1/2.
pro debut? ???
what's the prize money?
They will be throwing a 0 onto his paycheck!
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looks natural to me
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Really? He would literally be one of the top five best built men in the city I am in. He must be a lean 200+ at 5'10 and 1/2.
he just doesnt seem like anything special to me......i dont really think he is on anything other than OTC stuff to be honest....he isnt really impressive...
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he just doesnt seem like anything special to me......i dont really think he is on anything other than OTC stuff to be honest....he isnt really impressive...
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Maybe I'm easily impressed but I think he's huge. Although given I am smaller than usual right now I guess he looks more impressive to me than he usually does. Once I get my website updated with the new Joomla content management system in place, I will focus on bodybuilding. For now, that is my priority but I still want to exercise between now and then for good health.
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Really? He would literally be one of the top five best built men in the city I am in. He must be a lean 200+ at 5'10 and 1/2.
They will be throwing a 0 onto his paycheck!
so hed be one of the top 5 in a podunk town in nowhere canada? :D
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Maybe I'm easily impressed but I think he's huge. Although given I am smaller than usual right now I guess he looks more impressive to me than he usually does. Once I get my website updated with the new Joomla content management system in place, I will focus on bodybuilding. For now, that is my priority but I still want to exercise between now and then for good health.
something else you have to consider is the photo above makes him look a lot bigger than he is...the guy has size, im not saying he doesnt....but he doesnt really have the thickness....if he was standing sideways in that pic i think a lot of people would lean toward natural...
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Once again, you look at that picture right there and all i see is a mediocre physique. The ONLY reason his name gets mentioned is cause hes a big mouth who claims natural status.
Leafy Bug has built a better body than this, mostly just due to structure.
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Very natural gym body there.
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so hed be one of the top 5 in a podunk town in nowhere canada? :D
Maybe so, but there are still 110,000 people here. There are lots of juicers around here and only a few are bigger than him, at least when his condition is considered.
something else you have to consider is the photo above makes him look a lot bigger than he is...the guy has size, im not saying he doesnt....but he doesnt really have the thickness....if he was standing sideways in that pic i think a lot of people would lean toward natural...
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That's true.
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This topic is so endlessly funny. I know lots of big, fat fucks who juice to the gills that don't even look like bodybuilders. I also know little twinks that take everything under the sun.
You would be amazed at what you can do.... if you just do it right. If your gonna juice, do it right and get your $$$$$$'s worth.
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layne is natural, he has helped me alot when i was younger.
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This topic is so endlessly funny. I know lots of big, fat fucks who juice to the gills that don't even look like bodybuilders. I also know little twinks that take everything under the sun.
You would be amazed at what you can do.... if you just do it right. If your gonna juice, do it right and get your $$$$$$'s worth.
I think you might be right. If I my deadlift was closing in on 500 at 170 and eating fuck all, I could only imagine it would be a lot higher if I just tried. For a guy with Layne's dedication and limb length advantage, 600 is believable to me. But the thing is, now he is deadlifting 700 or more, so I admit I do have my doubts about him at times. What is the highest deadlift?
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He is natural , his muscles doesn't have the chemical look and I guess at 6 foot height he is under 225 pounds, so it is unlikely that he uses.
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not this shit again.
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Maybe I'm easily impressed but I think he's huge. Although given I am smaller than usual right now I guess he looks more impressive to me than he usually does. Once I get my website updated with the new Joomla content management system in place, I will focus on bodybuilding. For now, that is my priority but I still want to exercise between now and then for good health.
you should look into Drupal instead of Joomla.
also you are comparing him to every day "normal" people while these guys are comparing him to other bodybuilders.
for every day walking around the city, hitting the social scene and picking up chicks his builld is ideal
in the BB world he is "meh" or "blah"..and for the record he is not natty..deal with it
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Discuss.
What is the status of you coming out of the 'anabolics user' closet?
Discuss Matt's anabolics usage. When did he start using?
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If he told me he was natty I would believe him. Maybe you guys think I am niave.
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Layne will be making his pro debut this weekend at the IFPA Pro International in Kansas City, Kansas.
Between 2002-2006 I think the majority opinion was that he was natural. Since then I feel that the majority opinion is that he uses. Discuss.
Why? He's only added a few lbs at most since 2006. He's continued to train the entire time, I would expect any serious lifter (enhanced or not) to gain at least a lb or two every 4-8 years.
Is averaging a lb of muscle gain every 2-3 years enough to cast suspicion now?
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synthol
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yummmm any more pics ? but a bit more advanced in the proceeedings :P ;D
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In the pic posted he definitively looks natural, not really that impressive. Add that to the fact that the pic may actually make him look bigger than he really is then you can't really be that impressed and question his nattie status.
Oh, and great pics at the end of the thread. :)
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looks natural to me
I'd say the same. Doesn't look any more impressive than I do and I've been a lifetime natty
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You are a 130 lb knome, girls even look big to you.
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lanes a drug user always has been since he got serious about lifting weights, he just doesn't respond well to hormones.
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lanes a drug user always has been since he got serious about lifting weights, he just doesn't respond well to hormones.
If he doesn't respond well, what the point of doing them?
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cause he wants to be as big as he possibly can be, he wasn't satisfied with what he had naturally so more is always better than nothing at all.
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cause he wants to be as big as he possibly can be, he wasn't satisfied with what he had naturally so more is always better than nothing at all.
if that's true, that's sad. :-\
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I think you might be right. If I my deadlift was closing in on 500 at 170 and eating fuck all, I could only imagine it would be a lot higher if I just tried. For a guy with Layne's dedication and limb length advantage, 600 is believable to me. But the thing is, now he is deadlifting 700 or more, so I admit I do have my doubts about him at times. What is the highest deadlift?
Layne is a strong guy that developed his physique via old school hard training and strict diet.
He also has a PhD in the area of protein biochemistry, from a decent research Univ.
He is as legitimate as they come. Give him credit.
Plus, the pro natty organization he competes in is pretty stringent on the drug testing.
I would be curious as to what actual evidance anyone has to refute his natural status.
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To tell the truth I don't give a damn if he is natural or not....He has shit for structure...He has used before if this helps
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lanes a drug user always has been since he got serious about lifting weights, he just doesn't respond well to hormones.
Ok, so you have a record of his failed drug tests and know for a fact what he took or when he took it?
No! Of course not. Your so called "proof" is because you say so. Please..... ::)
C'mon now, you do have some actual facts , right? Is the best you can do is "saying" he uses drugs.
THAT is really your argument? Are you kidding me? Do you realize how silly and lame that sounds.
I can "say" that aliens from Uranus laned on the White House lawn and talked with the President.
You can always get a few wackos to believe anything.
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cause he wants to be as big as he possibly can be, he wasn't satisfied with what he had naturally so more is always better than nothing at all.
I guess you either read his mind or you know a friend who is the sister of his Uncle's barber, right?
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I guess you either read his mind or you know a friend who is the sister of his Uncle's barber, right?
Howard why is it soo important either way?? He has a shitty structure?
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To tell the truth I don't give a damn if he is natural or not....He has shit for structure...He has used before if this helps
and YOUR proof is? I am waiting for some actual verfied facts, not some bro talk, c'mon guys is this the best you can do? Really?
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Howard why is it soo important either way?? He has a shitty structure?
I don't have a dog in this fight. If you want to say he has a lousy BB structure ok , fair enough.
What pisses me off is claiming a decent , honest guy like Layne is juiced simply because someone says so, with no actual proof.
It pisses me off because it such a lame , nonsense argument or claim on your side.
As a natural pro it is a bit of slander and personal attack on the man .
If you wish to make this kind of claim come at it with some decent argument to back up your claim. Saying you just know is silly. If that is the best anyone can do, the claim is frivilous and silly.
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I don't have a dog in this fight. If you want to say he has a lousy BB structure ok , fair enough.
What pisses me off is claiming a decent , honest guy like Layne is juiced simply because someone says so, with no actual proof.
It pisses me off because it such a lame , nonsense argument or claim on your side.
As a natural pro it is a bit of slander and personal attack on the man .
If you wish to make this kind of claim come at it with some decent argument to back up your claim. Saying you just know is silly. If that is the best anyone can do, the claim is frivilous and silly.
Why do you feel the need to fight his fight??? Are you hoping maybe he will drop his pants and let you give him a thank you blow job???
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Why do you feel the need to fight his fight??? Are you hoping maybe he will drop his pants and let you give him a thank you blow job???
LOL, good one. ;D No I am not fighting.
In fact I would love a good debate on this issue.
What pisses me off is trying to debate and the other side's main pt is " I say so".
It is like playing catch and the other guys refuses to even try to catch the ball .
Give me some actual reason, some logic that makes your pint, anything tangible that makes a decent argument.
Plus , I like and admire Layne and know how hard the guy has worked .
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Why do you feel the need to fight his fight??? Are you hoping maybe he will drop his pants and let you give him a thank you blow job???
lol x2, get's awful worked up about this guy. how can you admire a guy that makes money from lying.
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lol x2, get's awful worked up about this guy. how can you admire a guy that makes money from lying.
Once again, I assume you have some form of proof he is lying , right?
This " I just say so and I know" crap is what bugs me.
Maybe you just don't like Layne, which is your right. No biggy.
But if you are going to slander the man at least have something more than " I say he is lying".
Please, tell me you got more than just that?
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Once again, I assume you have some form of proof he is lying , right?
This " I just say so and I know" crap is what bugs me.
Maybe you just don't like Layne, which is your right. No biggy.
But if you are going to slander the man at least have something more than " I say he is lying".
Please, tell me you got more than just that?
Do you have proof he isnt lying ?
Look at basic facts and that will give you the answer..its not hard to seperate the wheat from the chaff but to many idiots like to close there eyes and beleive lies. ::)
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Once again, I assume you have some form of proof he is lying , right?
This " I just say so and I know" crap is what bugs me.
Maybe you just don't like Layne, which is your right. No biggy.
But if you are going to slander the man at least have something more than " I say he is lying".
Please, tell me you got more than just that?
do we have proof that lance armstrong doped...no but it is obvious he did. It might not be as obvious with layne, but the truth is he juices if you don't see that oh well.
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do we have proof that lance armstrong doped...no but it is obvious he did. It might not be as obvious with layne, but the truth is he juices if you don't see that oh well.
Actually we do in the form of the French cycling federations report they released.
We also have a laundry list of first hand witnesses that he rode with and they will testity to his useage in interview and in hearings ON THE RECORD.
Once again, do you have any report, failed drug test, reliable firsthand witness, etc about Layne' use of steroids>
Ya gotta have actual legit names, dates, places so we can all verfiy the claim. Just saying you "THINK" something is true is fine on a message board so long as you realize that it is your OPINION, not actual evidance. See the difference?
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Actually we do in the form of the French cycling federations report they released.
We also have a laundry list of first hand witnesses that he rode with and they will testity to his useage in interview and in hearings ON THE RECORD.
Once again, do you have any report, failed drug test, reliable firsthand witness, etc about Layne' use of steroids>
Ya gotta have actual legit names, dates, places so we can all verfiy the claim. Just saying you "THINK" something is true is fine on a message board so long as you realize that it is your OPINION, not actual evidance. See the difference?
Well using your logic Ronnie Coleman is natural , so is Usain Bolt So are all the top FootBall players even though logic and a certain look says the opposite.
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is there an "i dont care" button somewhere on this internets thing?
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Well using your logic Ronnie Coleman is natural , so is Usain Bolt So are all the top FootBall players even though logic and a certain look says the opposite.
1. Ronnie was clean enough to pass a real urine test twice when he won his class at the IFBB amatuer world's to go pro. He didn't win the NPC Nationals but was the only hvy wt that placed who was willing to take and then pass the drug test.
2. He came into the pros with a drug tested wt of 217 and was a full grown man with many years of lifting already under his belt.
He ended up in the UNtested pros with a top, ripped wt of 286 lbs, a muscle gain of 70 lbs!!!
Looking at the facts of how much he gained in pure muscle size AFTER he stopped being drug tested is pretty decent evidance in my opinion.
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Some people cannot handle the fact that Layne is bigger and stronger than them and these insecurities drive these threads.
I suspect you are right and that feeds some of it, no question.
A typical gym rat may not be that powerful or a big. They know that the big pros all use lots of juice.
Since they don't want to risk it or don't have access, they have a good excuse ready to rationalize their lack of progress.
" You can't get big without a lot of juce".
Along comes a powerful guy like Layne with a good natty physique.
Now we have a conflict in their belief system and the excuse doesn't seem so good now.
It is tough to admit that guy is better due to good genetics and plain hard work.
In the end it wasn't a lack of drugs that was the big reason. No, it was that you suck as a lifter and bodybuilder.
That reality is more than most can take.
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1. Ronnie was clean enough to pass a real urine test twice when he won his class at the IFBB amatuer world's to go pro. He didn't win the NPC Nationals but was the only hvy wt that placed who was willing to take and then pass the drug test.
2. He came into the pros with a drug tested wt of 217 and was a full grown man with many years of lifting already under his belt.
He ended up in the UNtested pros with a top, ripped wt of 286 lbs, a muscle gain of 70 lbs!!!
Looking at the facts of how much he gained in pure muscle size AFTER he stopped being drug tested is pretty decent evidance in my opinion.
Ronnie has never competed naturaly..you complain about the standards of the IFBB but its blind old guys like you that make these standards FFS are you this stupid ?
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I suspect you are right and that feeds some of it, no question.
A typical gym rat may not be that powerful or a big. They know that the big pros all use lots of juice.
Since they don't want to risk it or don't have access, they have a good excuse ready to rationalize their lack of progress.
" You can't get big without a lot of juce".
Along comes a powerful guy like Layne with a good natty physique.
Now we have a conflict in their belief system and the excuse doesn't seem so good now.
It is tough to admit that guy is better due to good genetics and plain hard work.
In the end it wasn't a lack of drugs that was the big reason. No, it was that you suck as a lifter and bodybuilder.
That reality is more than most can take.
no its people who use and know many people who do what they look like on off, it's easy to spot a natural vs user, and ronnie wasn't natural when he turned pro jesus man
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Ronnie has never competed naturaly..you complain about the standards of the IFBB but its blind old guys like you that make these standards FFS are you this stupid ?
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some of you will NEVER understand.............y ou think Layne is your buddy, and would have no reason to lie to you
you might want to notice that within the fitness world, layne is branding himself..........he is turning his name and his image into a commodity.,,,,,,,,a product if you will
his goal is money and notoriety........with his personal training, website, md contract, books, contest prep, videos........and whatever he seeks to do in the future is done with the intention of making money off his brand
any of you ever stop to think why you even know layne norton's name.......he a shitbird who competed in some 3rd rate organization a couple of times............HE IS BRANDING HIMSELF, MARKETING HIMSELF
when someone wants to sell something to make money and get fame..........do you think truth matters
all these celebrities in hollywood.........you think truth matters........you think they are who they say they are........who you see talkin g to Oprah ::) ::)
now, other companies...........food companies, drug companies, electronic companies, asbestos companies, car companies............do they have a problem lying to you to sell products??
question.......HAVE CORPORATE ENTITIES EVER HAD PROBLEMS LYING OR BEING DISHONEST WITH THE PUBLIC IN ORDER TO SELL THEIR PRODUCTS??
answer.........NO
and guess what..........neither does Layne
he's out to sell product idiots, that product is layne norton...............it doesnt matter what the truth is, you will learn in marketing 101.............PERCEPTI ON IS REALITY
and obviously, by the looks of all the naive little boys all over the internet...........the perception he creates is being bought in full by the dummies here
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no its people who use and know many people who do what they look like on off, it's easy to spot a natural vs user, and ronnie wasn't natural when he turned pro jesus man
WOW ! I am impressed. ::)
The IOC and various natural organizations can save a lot of money now thanks to you.
They no longer need to pay the expenses for actual drug testing.
Now , they can just have you ( and your bros) LOOK AT someone and BOOM... 100% acurate drug testing results.
Soory Layne you are disqualified for a positive drug test. jtsunami from get big looked at you and said you were juiced. ;D
You are really serious with the "you can tell by looking" test" . This was your best shot and counter to my argument?
OMG! You guys are too much hehehehehehehe ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Just to let you guys know Layne won his first Natural Pro show today.
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Just to let you guys know Layne won his first Natural Pro show today.
As natural as cock flavoured yoghurt (Howies fave BTW) ;D
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Is Layne natural? ???
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Is Layne natural? ???
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No, stop being a silly kunt like Howard
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Is Layne natural? ???
Why don't you give your own opinion first? You've got plenty of experience with hormones yourself and can see the signs. What do you say?
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Is Layne Jewish ???
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Fixed :D
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He looks great .....I could give two shits about the thread.
This topic`s been done to death for years.
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I thought he admitted taking Superdrol. There was defo talk of that on here years ago.
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I thought he admitted taking Superdrol. There was defo talk of that on here years ago.
No. Never admitted using any hormone. No aromatase inhibitors either. Has admitted nothing. Only drug he's admitted to using is Adderall for ADHD.
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No. Never admitted using any hormone. No aromatase inhibitors either. Has admitted nothing. Only drug he's admitted to using is Adderall for ADHD.
He hasnt tried steroids but yet admits he has tried amphetamines!! haha, amazing isnt it?
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Just to let you guys know Layne won his first Natural Pro show today.
Layne won a natty pro event and passed a fairly stringent drug testing procdure in his current natty pro organization.
Now, we have many "experts" on here , posting under some cpu name, that know for a fact he isn't natural.
Their proof: You can tell by just LOOKING at a picture of him. ;)
Layne is actually doing somehing REAL in the actual world of bodybuilding.
On the other hand most of you losers are posting threads about him.
Sounds like a bunch of jealous bitches to me :-*
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You can tell by just LOOKING at a picture of him.
How do you know every IFBB pro is on drugs (which is what you've said)? Do you know them all and know what they do? Or do you judge them just by looking at them?
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How do you know every IFBB pro is on drugs (which is what you've said)? Do you know them all and know what they do? Or do you judge them just by looking at them?
Good question. Since they don't do any form of drug testing and we have nothing but heresay, we really don't know.
The best we can do is look at the most acurate information and make an OBJEVTIVE judgement.
Kai Green won the WNBF pro contest which is strictly drug tested at around 211 lbs.
Since he was a grown man with some hard training years behind him, it is unlikely he would gain a lot more muscle size via natural means.
Now, he competes a good 50 lbs more and just as cut .
While we don't know exactly what he takes , it is REASONABLE to conclude he has some form of steroid/PED use.
211 drug tested vs 268 UNtested. At least we have some wts, timeline and limited data.
WITHOUT a tested natural contest wt vs an UNtested contest wt of the same man in his prime, it is impossible to make any judgement about what the drugs did.
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Good question. Since they don't do any form of drug testing and we have nothing but heresay, we really don't know.
The best we can do is look at the most acurate information and make an OBJEVTIVE judgement.
Kai Green won the WNBF pro contest which is strictly drug tested at around 211 lbs.
Since he was a grown man with some hard training years behind him, it is unlikely he would gain a lot more muscle size via natural means.
Now, he competes a good 50 lbs more and just as cut .
While we don't know exactly what he takes , it is REASONABLE to conclude he has some form of steroid/PED use.
211 drug tested vs 268 UNtested. At least we have some wts, timeline and limited data.
WITHOUT a tested natural contest wt vs an UNtested contest wt of the same man in his prime, it is impossible to make any judgement about what the drugs did.
Kai never competed natural.
If you've seen what drugs do you don't need no stinking drug test or hard proof to tell with high accuracy. How do I KNOW both Matt C and little Swede! have done steroids when neither have admitted use? Because they are so big? It's not just related to stats, bodyweight, gains made, etc. You can put a person who never trained in his life on steroids and there will be signs! There is a distinct look steroids give which no amount of genetics or time or dedication give.
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1. Ronnie was clean enough to pass a real urine test twice when he won his class at the IFBB amatuer world's to go pro. He didn't win the NPC Nationals but was the only hvy wt that placed who was willing to take and then pass the drug test.
2. He came into the pros with a drug tested wt of 217 and was a full grown man with many years of lifting already under his belt.
He ended up in the UNtested pros with a top, ripped wt of 286 lbs, a muscle gain of 70 lbs!!!
Looking at the facts of how much he gained in pure muscle size AFTER he stopped being drug tested is pretty decent evidance in my opinion.
Good question. Since they don't do any form of drug testing and we have nothing but heresay, we really don't know.
The best we can do is look at the most acurate information and make an OBJEVTIVE judgement.
Kai Green won the WNBF pro contest which is strictly drug tested at around 211 lbs.
Since he was a grown man with some hard training years behind him, it is unlikely he would gain a lot more muscle size via natural means.
Now, he competes a good 50 lbs more and just as cut .
While we don't know exactly what he takes , it is REASONABLE to conclude he has some form of steroid/PED use.
211 drug tested vs 268 UNtested. At least we have some wts, timeline and limited data.
WITHOUT a tested natural contest wt vs an UNtested contest wt of the same man in his prime, it is impossible to make any judgement about what the drugs did.
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Layne is Natural.
End of Story.
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Can we move on now?
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We can solve this right here you know?
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I guess some of us are a little slow and need to keep this question open.
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I think its solved or at least should be now- Not that it ever was a mystery....Layne is a Lifetime Natural
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BOOM!
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BAM!
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LIGHTS OUT!
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hard to believe that he squats the numbers he does :D
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LIGHTS ON???
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hard to believe that he squats the numbers he does :D
He has strong tendons, good elasticity in them and some doofus Neanderthal thick bones as well as great technique. Its not that hard to see why he is able.
You should check out some of the lightweight Natural Powerlifters. They will blow your mind.
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omg what a beast!!!!!
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He has strong tendons, good elasticity in them and some doofus Neanderthal thick bones as well as great technique. Its not that hard to see why he is able.
You should check out some of the lightweight Natural Powerlifters. They will blow your mind.
yes I know I wasn't really serious. Just pointing out that they look pretty thin.
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DO NOT ATTEMPT TO ADJUST YOUR SCREEN-PHYSIQUE MAY APPEAR LARGER THAN ACTUAL SIZE
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i have seen bigger legs hanging out of a nest
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are you insinuating that Layne has birdie legs tito?
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"Oh Well, might as well do a bodybuilding show. I wasn`t going to write Beethoven`s Ninth Symphony anyways." -Layne Norton circa 2010 on why he competes in bodybuilding shows.
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BAM!
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I'm not saying that Layne isn't natural but a picture doesn't prove shit .
This guy = not natural ::)
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as natural as goodrums sexual orientation
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"When I`m Dead, Somebody will glance at this photo for around 5 seconds and then Press Delete and then Empty Recycle Bin." - Layne Norton circa 2010 on his Bodybuilding legacy
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"If I knew how to properly tie a noose, I would probably hang myself like this." - Layne Norton circa 2010 when asked on what kind of note he would like to end his Bodybuilding Career on.
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"I`m not really doing this show for me. I`m doing this show for you, the fans. This is for you." -Layne Norton
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I think its solved or at least should be now- Not that it ever was a mystery....Layne is a Lifetime Natural
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BOOM!
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Please......you're still in denial about the "calorie is a calorie" thing ::)
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I'm not saying that Layne isn't natural but a picture doesn't prove shit .
This guy = not natural ::)
True but then you have to compare billy guns work ethic with Laynes. Anyone can do juice and do a couple bicep girls and look like shit, i don't get your point. Sorry to break your hearts guys, Layne is natural.
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there is way to many homosexual apologist
in this thread. someone please post some porn
and ungay this shit.
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This guy is natural, I mean look at the pics when he was pumping up backstage.........he really doesn't look that impressive, he doesn't have that thickness guys on AAS have.
I still don't see any reason to doubt his natural status.
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No such thing as a "natural" competing bodybuilder anyway TA. Wake the fuck up!
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No such thing as a "natural" competing bodybuilder anyway TA. Wake the fuck up!
How can you be so sure? From what I've seen natural competing bodybuilders always end up skinny when on such low BF levels, kind of like they just got out of a concentration camp. ;D
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No such thing as a "natural" competing bodybuilder anyway TA. Wake the fuck up!
I competed 100% natural no even Supps (just whey ) so STFU Coach.
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True but then you have to compare billy guns work ethic with Laynes. Anyone can do juice and do a couple bicep girls and look like shit, i don't get your point. Sorry to break your hearts guys, Layne is natural.
Sorry to break it to you but I don't give a fuck if Layne is natural or not and what point don't you get ???
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Sorry to break it to you but I don't give a fuck if Layne is natural or not and what point don't you get ???
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Sorry to break it to you but I don't give a fuck if Layne is natural or not and what point don't you get ???
sorry bud, I thought you were referring to laynes pic and not billy's when you put "this guy=not natrual"
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LIGHTS ON???
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I don't get why this is supposed to look like something built by roids. I can EASILY believe this is a natty..
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this kid is not natural and NOT clean,,he just have average respond to hormones,,just like the fellas who rarely train legs,,you can tell he concentrate on upper body ,,he is good example of gym rat now day that lie about his drug usage inorder to do so call natural shows,,he make a living or try to out of those lies,,it will catch up to him,,i assure you he piss off the wrong people already,,his time is limited
the numbers 195 5 % at the height talk about are NOT NATURAL AND NOT CLEAN,,his genetic respond is just very average,,and he has strigy look because he rely on the sell of natural look and uses hormone that will corespond well with sell of this look,,
this fella is one of the WORST guys among bdybuilding today not only because he doesnt look liek a bodybuilder,,but because of his crazy lies,,
his day will come,,promise you
gh15 approved
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natural is 500 mg test
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I don't get why this is supposed to look like something built by roids. I can EASILY believe this is a natty..
Really? Where I am he would have definitely won the last bodybuilding contest we had against all of the juicers. There is no man in the city where I am, natural or juiced, who is at Layne's level.
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Really? Where I am he would have definitely won the last bodybuilding contest we had against all of the juicers. There is no man in the city where I am, natural or juiced, who is at Layne's level.
Dude what city do you live in? Come here to New Orleans and I will show you a bunch of brothers bigger than Layne on the basketball court and they don't even belong to a gym.
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some of you will NEVER understand.............y ou think Layne is your buddy, and would have no reason to lie to you
you might want to notice that within the fitness world, layne is branding himself..........he is turning his name and his image into a commodity.,,,,,,,,a product if you will
his goal is money and notoriety........with his personal training, website, md contract, books, contest prep, videos........and whatever he seeks to do in the future is done with the intention of making money off his brand.
any of you ever stop to think why you even know layne norton's name.......he a shitbird who competed in some 3rd rate organization a couple of times............HE IS BRANDING HIMSELF, MARKETING HIMSELF
when someone wants to sell something to make money and get fame..........do you think truth matters
all these celebrities in hollywood.........you think truth matters........you think they are who they say they are........who you see talkin g to Oprah ::) ::)
now, other companies...........food companies, drug companies, electronic companies, asbestos companies, car companies............do they have a problem lying to you to sell products??
question.......HAVE CORPORATE ENTITIES EVER HAD PROBLEMS LYING OR BEING DISHONEST WITH THE PUBLIC IN ORDER TO SELL THEIR PRODUCTS??
answer.........NO
and guess what..........neither does Layne
he's out to sell product idiots, that product is layne norton...............it doesnt matter what the truth is, you will learn in marketing 101.............PERCEPTI ON IS REALITY
and obviously, by the looks of all the naive little boys all over the internet...........the perception he creates is being bought in full by the dummies here
. I'm new here, and I can't understand why Layne couldn't be natural? What should a true natural look like? This guy isn't HUGE, he's just very lean! I know high school football players 240lbs with abs. I see guys at me gym bigger and close to this lean who claims natural. And after watching them bust ass in the gym 5 days a week, I beleive they could be natural? Can you please post a pic of what you think is a true natural?
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this kid is not natural and NOT clean,,he just have average respond to hormones,,just like the fellas who rarely train legs,,you can tell he concentrate on upper body ,,he is good example of gym rat now day that lie about his drug usage inorder to do so call natural shows,,he make a living or try to out of those lies,,it will catch up to him,,i assure you he piss off the wrong people already,,his time is limited
the numbers 195 5 % at the height talk about are NOT NATURAL AND NOT CLEAN,,his genetic respond is just very average,,and he has strigy look because he rely on the sell of natural look and uses hormone that will corespond well with sell of this look,,
this fella is one of the WORST guys among bdybuilding today not only because he doesnt look liek a bodybuilder,,but because of his crazy lies,,
his day will come,,promise you
gh15 approved
Layne just won a drug tested contest as a pro natty in his division. He posts pics , places dates and you can even check out the organizations drug testing protocals, on their web site.
GH15 side * claims Layne isn't natural and must do drugs. Hmm, you are an unkown guy posting some thoery about what you THINK happen from whatever rock you hide under. You have no facts, no failed drug tests, no first hand witness. You get a few like minded fools to believe what you post because they want to believe it. You sir are a complete JOKE. You are legend in your own mind, nothing more.
Layne is real champ in an actual BB contest, while you are an unknown nutjob.
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Really? Where I am he would have definitely won the last bodybuilding contest we had against all of the juicers. There is no man in the city where I am, natural or juiced, who is at Layne's level.
Your city must be shite.
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::) ::) ::)
Other than make some silly personal attack di you or anyone else provide any PROOF to back your claims? NOPE.
So, like those who can't really debate you resort to name calling in hopes it will take the focus off the real issues or topic.
Please privide some actual PROOF and then we can debate. Until then you and your ilk lose the debate and are owned by a superior debator.
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. I'm new here, and I can't understand why Layne couldn't be natural? What should a true natural look like? This guy isn't HUGE, he's just very lean! I know high school football players 240lbs with abs. I see guys at me gym bigger and close to this lean who claims natural. And after watching them bust ass in the gym 5 days a week, I beleive they could be natural? Can you please post a pic of what you think is a true natural?
There never has been a High School Football player 240 lbs with abs visible. You don`t know anyone that fits the bill because they DON`T EXIST. You made it up. You do realize that would put him on the Mr. Olympia stage. How many High Schoolers have competed in the Mr. Olympia or even the SuperHeavies at Nationals? Its an impossibility Naturally so I hope this helps.
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Other than make some silly personal attack di you or anyone else provide any PROOF to back your claims? NOPE.
So, like those who can't really debate you resort to name calling in hopes it will take the focus off the real issues or topic.
Please privide some actual PROOF and then we can debate. Until then you and your ilk lose the debate and are owned by a superior debator.
The only claim I made is that you are a retard and the proof is in your posts.
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There never has been a High School Football player 240 lbs with abs visible. You don`t know anyone that fits the bill because they DON`T EXIST. You made it up. You do realize that would put him on the Mr. Olympia stage. How many High Schoolers have competed in the Mr. Olympia or even the SuperHeavies at Nationals? Its an impossibility Naturally so I hope this helps.
With abs? Are you kidding me? Abs don't = shredded!! I'm from Texas and I have seen this!
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With abs? Are you kidding me? Abs don't = shredded!! I'm from Texas and I have seen this! I should add that these players are 6'4 6'5.
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he's natural ffs, look at him are you motherfuckers retarded or what.
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Could he even win Mr Getbig??
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It seems the majority of people with poor-mediocre genetics are claiming he juices.
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It seems the majority of people with poor-mediocre genetics are claiming he juices.
Exactly! In a court of law who would win this debate.
Layne Norton _ a natty pro who just passed a drug test .Plus he can also provide along record of being in natural events and passing all drug test for several years.
Those who claim he juices - "You honor I can tell he lies by LOOKING at him. I have 20 or more getbiggers who agree with me. They would come here to testify but they would piss their pants if anyone knew who they were. But trust me, we know, we know"
Seriously, does anyone else see how silly their side is anywhere outisde of the typical getbig forum.
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Exactly! In a court of law who would win this debate.
Layne Norton _ a natty pro who just passed a drug test .Plus he can also provide along record of being in natural events and passing all drug test for several years.
Those who claim he juices - "You honor I can tell he lies by LOOKING at him. I have 20 or more getbiggers who agree with me. They would come here to testify but they would piss their pants if anyone knew who they were. But trust me, we know, we know"
Seriously, does anyone else see how silly their side is anywhere outisde of the typical getbig forum.
same as i knew you would not compete ,,,i know that you also talk out of your ass in reragding to what the truth is ,,you need to understand howard,,laybe nortom...noone knows him in the real world of sports since he is not doign a sport,,so no one will care when he g et busted and outted,,what people care about are individuals they know from everyday life on tv,,
now i keep showing here examples right and left of lance armstrong,,many other cyclists they look like absolut skinny shits and on hormones,,and get busted right and left,,who would think marion jones would be gettignn busted you all held her with utmost responct and glory only fat foolish americanso can give,,then boom she busted,,same for 100s of other sports athletes in americana and some are less known but still more important than layne nortom ever be because no one care about bodybuilding per say,,
that is why he allow himelf to act this way ,,that is why skip did the same but to a lesser degree and he minimize it till he retired shamly but atleast kept it quietly,,no one cre about bodybuilders,,thats why lane nortom doing this,,he is trying to make living out of LIE,,this is wrong,,and he mislead many many goolible youngsters,,they ofcourse now know the truth after me being here for over half a decade ,,,but still its not right what he does,,
his bust will come out of no where you will see
gh15 approved
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Dude what city do you live in? Come here to New Orleans and I will show you a bunch of brothers bigger than Layne on the basketball court and they don't even belong to a gym.
Black men do have smaller waists on average which can make a little go a long way. I find it hard to believe that there are a lot of naturals that look like Layne anywhere but I could be wrong. I can only speak from where I am and Layne would have won my city's bodybuilding contest against all the juicers.
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Black men do have smaller waists on average which can make a little go a long way. I find it hard to believe that there are a lot of naturals that look like Layne anywhere but I could be wrong. I can only speak from where I am and Layne would have won my city's bodybuilding contest against all the juicers.
you actually a good example of fellas that is just as strong,,and if was consistant with drug usage would be stronger and BIGGER than nortom on the same dosages,,somewhere at 200lb at 5% he fight with all the drug intake to be 190-195 at 5%,,,5-10 lb of lean muscle mass IS HUGE DIFF IN BODYBUILDING ,,HUGE!
gh15 approved
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you actually a good example of fellas that is just as strong,,and if was consistant with drug usage would be stronger and BIGGER than nortom on the same dosages,,somewhere at 200lb at 5% he fight with all the drug intake to be 190-195 at 5%,,,5-10 lb of lean muscle mass IS HUGE DIFF IN BODYBUILDING ,,HUGE!
gh15 approved
I hope so! ;D
Today my blood pressure was 119/63 which is a little lower than usual and my pulse was 64 which is also a little low but lately it has consistently been under 70. My only concern with steroids would be effects on the heart and fertility. But my son was conceived in under five tries so my fertility is fine. As for my blood pressure, I honestly think it is my lack of alcohol consumption which is causing it to be where it is. I have not had a sip of alcohol since August of 2006 and only around 15 times in my life in the three years before that. I am most likely going to begin consuming one glass of wine per day but only have I consult with my doctor about it. I do want to have two more kids so I definitely want to make sure my fertility is in order.
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I felt so sorry for him and all of his hard work, I just had to give him some muscle so he wouldn't be confused with an Auscwitch victim...
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I felt so sorry for him and all of his hard work, I just had to give him some muscle so he wouldn't be confused with an Auscwitch victim...
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lol.......good editing
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I felt so sorry for him and all of his hard work, I just had to give him some muscle so he wouldn't be confused with an Auscwitch victim...
(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/layne.jpg)
When I first saw the picture I thought it was real. It was only really the arms that would be a clear giveaway. I think that goes to show just what level Layne is at.
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I never got why all the hate against Layne? He's actually a really nice guy, does well in shows, achieved higher education! What am I missing here?
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I never got why all the hate against Layne? He's actually a really nice guy, does well in shows, achieved higher education! What am I missing here?
What "hate"? ???
Some people think he is using steroids, other people think he is natural or clean. How is either opinion a form of "hate"? The closest I have seen on this thread to anyone hating on Layne is from those who have been upfront about calling him a liar, but that's about it. Otherwise this thread is just an opinion survey of what people think of his natural status.
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as natural as goodrums sexual orientation
;D ;D ;D
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He looks good, but i doubt he juices. His back width and legs arent that great, my backs probably alot better.
That phsique i would say could be natural, its not that massive or anything :)
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What "hate"? ???
Some people think he is using steroids, other people think he is natural or clean. How is either opinion a form of "hate"? The closest I have seen on this thread to anyone hating on Layne is from those who have been upfront about calling him a liar, but that's about it. Otherwise this thread is just an opinion survey of what people think of his natural status.
Matt ( and others here), Obviously, some of the liar claims are simple disbelief. BUT, I think it goes much deeper.
If you accept that Layne is natural, you accept he built his size and strength via hard work and basic talent for bodybuilding and power.
Most here know that the top pros and strongest men , all use steroids and related drugs.
Layne is "in your face" proof, that you can build a decent physique and impressive strength WITHOUT drugs.
In addition to that , Layne has gone a different route being a natural pro and magazine column writter.
He made a succes in the bodybuilding world with hard work and a top education.
This flys in the face of the conventional, "freak show" beliefs and threatens the status quo
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Another MattC thread devoted to stroking Layne's shaft on the internet!? Come out of the closet, already.
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I hope so! ;D
Blah, blah, blah. I am most likely going to begin consuming one glass of wine per day but only have I consult with my doctor about it. Blah, blah, blah
Jesus. Wept.
You might want to consider consuming a glass of man the fuck up, Wendy.
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you actually a good example of fellas that is just as strong,,and if was consistant with drug usage would be stronger and BIGGER than nortom on the same dosages,,somewhere at 200lb at 5% he fight with all the drug intake to be 190-195 at 5%,,,5-10 lb of lean muscle mass IS HUGE DIFF IN BODYBUILDING ,,HUGE!
gh15 approved
Look GH15, obviously we all know plenty of famous athletes that lied about their steroid use.
Many of them were pro level record breakers. With all the money and fame to be had from sport these days, it is little wonder that some will cheat and take drugs to win.
Layne Norton is quite different. He isn't trying to beat the NPC or IFBB bodybuilders that use drugs and look bigger.
His example is one that shows just how much muscle and power a hard training man can gain, WITHOUT drugs.
I never said ( nor did Layne) that the biggest pro bodybuilders don't use a lot of drugs.That would be silly.
Why do you feel it impossible to look and lift as Layne does without drugs?
It seems quite reasonable to me, that a hard working guy with some talent for lifting could do what Layne has done without drugs.
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Aux contrare...I think that just goes to show what a complete idiot you have to be to make a statement like that. the more i read of your posts Matt C...the more I realize you must be half retarded.
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...and with that pic , we have summed up the entire thread ;D
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Matt ( and others here), Obviously, some of the liar claims are simple disbelief. BUT, I think it goes much deeper.
If you accept that Layne is natural, you accept he built his size and strength via hard work and basic talent for bodybuilding and power.
Most here know that the top pros and strongest men , all use steroids and related drugs.
Layne is "in your face" proof, that you can build a decent physique and impressive strength WITHOUT drugs.
In addition to that , Layne has gone a different route being a natural pro and magazine column writter.
He made a succes in the bodybuilding world with hard work and a top education.
This flys in the face of the conventional, "freak show" beliefs and threatens the status quo
That's true. I'm just wondering what the consensus is as I think it has shifted with from people generally believing Layne was natural to people generally believing he is enhanced. On MD most claim they think Layne is natural, on here the opinion is more divided.
Another MattC thread devoted to stroking Layne's shaft on the internet!? Come out of the closet, already.
Well said! But I am straight, although to be honest, I probably wouldn't believe me when I say that but I am. So why do I run a bodybuilding site? Well, I started it years ago and there is no reason to stop updating it now even though I am not as much of a bodybuilding fan as I used to be. But I am straight.
Aux contrare...I think that just goes to show what a complete idiot you have to be to make a statement like that. the more i read of your posts Matt C...the more I realize you must be half retarded.
LOL, where do you guys live where Layne has such an ordinary and attainable physique? Here is the top three at the last bodybuilding contest in my city of 110,000:
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Now do you really think Layne wouldn't have won that contest? So even though Layne would be the biggest and most ripped person in my city, it's still so obvious to you that Layne's physique is one typical of a natural?
Oh yeah, and then there is me who was just shy of of qualifying for the Ontario Strongman this year but apparently everyone on getbig has a bigger total than me. ::)
Seriously, someone is bullshitting here and it's not me as I have proven my claims countless times. It's one thing that people believe Layne when he says he is natural - I myself did not claim anything to the contrary, I was merely trying to figure out the consensus on it. What I'm saying is that I find it shocking that so many people find his physique to be so obviously natural. He is bigger and more ripped than every juicer in my city! Yet he "obviously" looks natural.
So if Layne's physique is so obviously natural, what should a person look like on a basic cycle?
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Jesus. Wept.
You might want to consider consuming a glass of man the fuck up, Wendy.
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truth is alot of us here who train and actually lift weights
don't give a flying fuck what any of these bullshit twinkle
toe "bodybuilders" say or do or about their competitions.
i use to think wnbf pros were ok but now
FUCK THEM ALL
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Who is Layne Norton?
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you are small, weak, and delusional. please post pictures of yourself to back these statements I just made up.
No, I'm not weak or delusional. And I'm not blind either - Layne would be the biggest and most ripped person in my city if he lived here and he would be bigger than all of the juicers. There are possibly some exceptions but I have never seen them diet down before so I wouldn't know for sure. Layne is exceptional, not so obviously natural looking as people claim. But yeah, maybe I just live in some magical city where people don't work out for some reason or everything I see with my own eyes is wrong. ::)
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There are several guys on here that are fairly knowledgeable about steroids and their effects, but I have to say there are hardly any on this site that know anything about Natural bodybuilding. They have no idea what someone can achieve who: 1. trains hard for over 10 years consistently 2. eats properly 3. maintains a positive nitrogen balance through protein and amino acids every 3 hours. 4. doesn't overtrain and raise cortisol (which lowers testosterone), and 5. has great genetics Layne Norton's physique is conceivably natural. It would be very difficult to achieve, but definitely possible.
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No, I'm not weak or delusional. And I'm not blind either - Layne would be the biggest and most ripped person in my city if he lived here and he would be bigger than all of the juicers. There are possibly some exceptions but I have never seen them diet down before so I wouldn't know for sure. Layne is exceptional, not so obviously natural looking as people claim. But yeah, maybe I just live in some magical city where people don't work out for some reason or everything I see with my own eyes is wrong. ::)
Honestly matt, the only thing that could be considered questionable is his strength on the deadlift. His squat numbers are decent but not alarming and his bench.. well we won't go there. If you think his physique is sooo far out of reach compared to that of your thunderbay counterparts then you really need to get out more and discover the world. hell just go further south of ontario and you'll see quite a few juiced up guys destroy Layne in terms of size.
Layne is probably not even top 100 in "naturals" in the world, he's just the most notable.
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There are several guys on here that are fairly knowledgeable about steroids and their effects, but I have to say there are hardly any on this site that know anything about Natural bodybuilding. They have no idea what someone can achieve who: 1. trains hard for over 10 years consistently 2. eats properly 3. maintains a positive nitrogen balance through protein and amino acids every 3 hours. 4. doesn't overtrain and raise cortisol (which lowers testosterone), and 5. has great genetics Layne Norton's physique is conceivably natural. It would be very difficult to achieve, but definitely possible.
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Honestly matt, the only thing that could be considered questionable is his strength on the deadlift. His squat numbers are decent but not alarming and his bench.. well we won't go there. If you think his physique is sooo far out of reach compared to that of your thunderbay counterparts then you really need to get out more and discover the world. hell just go further south of ontario and you'll see quite a few juiced up guys destroy Layne in terms of size.
Layne is probably not even top 100 in "naturals" in the world, he's just the most notable.
Yes, there are definitely other people in Ontario who are juiced up and bigger than Layne, although few who are stronger.
Two of the top six 2010 Ontario Strongman competitors are from Thunder Bay - Kyle Rayner [4th] and Dallas Hogan [6th]. Dallas placed 4th in 2008. They are both marginally stronger than Layne, if that. And they are both beasts. Here is Kyle failing with 700 [although it should be noted that he did multiple singles at lower weight just before this and was tired]:
That is in a province of 13 million.
I can walk into any gym in my city at any time of the day and any day of the year and be one of the three strongest guys there. This includes the university and college gyms which have all sorts of school athletes training there. And Layne is significantly stronger than me except on bench press so it's safe to say that 99% of the time or more he would be the biggest and strongest person in my city. Maybe people like Layne are common in other places [I HIGHLY doubt that], but they certainly are not here.
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What a clearly natural physique right here! If I didn't know Layne, I would definitely think this was a natural lifter. ::)
The reality is, I have seen Layne's slow and steady progress through the years, but if I didn't know his history, the first thing that would go through my mind is that he is an enhanced lifter. And those of you who claim that physiques like Layne are so common are simply lying. He can walk into any gym in the country and be one of the most built men there.
But then, by the time I qualify for my provincial strongman contest people will STILL insist that they have a bigger total than me. ::) I guess it's just important to accept that most people who post online are full of shit and will never verify anything they claim.
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Geeeesh, and to think I was bad about going on and on and on and on, about some aspect of steroids in bodybuilding.
Unless Layne shoots your dog or rapes your woman, why do you get some concerned with the man.
The man is doing his thing and enjoying life.
If you want to believe he must take something in secret, have at it.
This Layne natural status issue is starting to sound like some belief in "something" obssession????
I am moving on to getting ready for the Olympia this weekend .
I am going to watch it on the webcast on BB.com and enjoy it,like a kid at Christmas.
Oh, FYI, I don't give a rats fuzzy behind what Jay, Phil or Kai are taking for drugs.
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MattC you are strong for your weight.
The properly strong candians such as Dominic Filiou and Hugo Gerard just don't bother doing shitty back door shows that is why you can almost qualify for them. i can pretty much walk into a gym and 90% of the time I will be the biggest or strongest there. However that 10% is a HUGE number..
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Thsi is the first thing I googled. I believe this is your weight class also.
http://www.powerlifting.ca/nationals/nationals2010/Friday_3.pdf
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Geeeesh, and to think I was bad about going on and on and on and on, about some aspect of steroids in bodybuilding.
Unless Layne shoots your dog or rapes your woman, why do you get some concerned with the man.
I really don't understand the need for your tone in this post. I'm not harping on Layne. His physique is honestly nothing short of amazing. I was just curious what the consensus is on whether or not people THINK he is using. I myself am not claiming he is using, but I was curious to hear the consensus on the board.
It's funny how you talked about "group think" on the MD thread. Literally everyone in that thread is supporting and praising Layne, and you are suggesting that the ONE or TWO people who dare say anything critical about him are engaging in "group think"? ???
I'm honestly beginning to wonder if Layne will ever compete in the NPC scene given how amazing he looks, although I'm not sure if his league would allow that.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=348607.0;attach=383343;image)
:o :o :o
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I really don't understand the need for your tone in this post. I'm not harping on Layne. His physique is honestly nothing short of amazing. I was just curious what the consensus is on whether or not people THINK he is using. I myself am not claiming he is using, but I was curious to hear the consensus on the board.
It's funny how you talked about "group think" on the MD thread. Literally everyone in that thread is supporting and praising Layne, and you are suggesting that the ONE or TWO people who dare say anything critical about him are engaging in "group think"? ???
I'm honestly beginning to wonder if Layne will ever compete in the NPC scene given how amazing he looks, although I'm not sure if his league would allow that.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=348607.0;attach=383343;image)
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This is getbig there Matt I am bustin' your balls my friend. How serious do I think I was when I used the shooting your dog example.
Now here is anovel idea. Go lift in a power meet, see how you do, post the pics and we can give ya feedback about what YOU did. Seriously, while I respect Layne, BUT, I get bored of any topic or person after too long. It would be cool to see you and some others doing something.
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MattC you are strong for your weight.
The properly strong candians such as Dominic Filiou and Hugo Gerard just don't bother doing shitty back door shows that is why you can almost qualify for them. i can pretty much walk into a gym and 90% of the time I will be the biggest or strongest there. However that 10% is a HUGE number..
Hey thanks Ursus!!
I was hoping to be the under 200 city champion at my October meet but preparing for the Olympia has prevented me from training since my last contest so I have not improved. I will participate in some of the lifts at the Olympia and I'm sure I won't embarrass myself.
My city's competition was no joke. We actually had three of the strongest men in the province compete in it. I forgot to say that Luke Skaarup came back to town to compete in it while he was visiting with family. He has an impressive background:
http://www.lukeskaarup.com/contests.htm
As for Layne, he honestly looks amazing!!!
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gh15 bringing the truth again about this tool who is still talked about, his endless lying will end him in a shit bucket like 15 said. All hail gh15 God of Hormones!
jt
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If you guys think it can't be done naturally I feel sorry for your work ethic.
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If you guys think it can't be done naturally I feel sorry for your work ethic.
And exactly how does one feel sorry for an attribute?
I feel sorry for your penmanship.
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And exactly how does one feel sorry for an attribute?
I feel sorry for your penmanship.
Same way someone can feel sorry for someone being narrow minded on racial things.....or feel sorry for someone's religious beliefs. I love how people continually bash on Layne. I could break down those people into categories. Especially G4P15xanight....oh, I am sorry...its,,,,duhhhh,,,,,blah blah blahona,,,,I am a goddess,,,,,ramble ramble ramble,, ::)
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If you guys think it can't be done naturally I feel sorry for your work ethic.
brutal bumping a four month old thread .. Hi Matt :D
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Same way someone can feel sorry for someone being narrow minded on racial things.....or feel sorry for someone's religious beliefs. I love how people continually bash on Layne. I could break down those people into categories. Especially G4P15xanight....oh, I am sorry...its,,,,duhhhh,,,,,blah blah blahona,,,,I am a goddess,,,,,ramble ramble ramble,, ::)
No this is incorrect. You are saying you are feeling sorry for someone for their racial or religious beliefs. That is feeling sorry for a person as a result of an attribute of that person.
JohnnyBlaze ( ::)) said he feels sorry for 'your work ethic', making the subject of his sorrow, an attribute. These two are not the same.
Perhaps all you tiny natural bodybuilders should stop your joke of a 'sport' and read a book. ;D
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No this is incorrect. You are saying you are feeling sorry for someone for their racial or religious beliefs. That is feeling sorry for a person as a result of an attribute of that person.
JohnnyBlaze ( ::)) said he feels sorry for 'your work ethic', making the subject of his sorrow, an attribute. These two are not the same.
Perhaps all you tiny natural bodybuilders should stop your joke of a 'sport' and read a book. ;D
Yes, because the "enhanced" side of the "sport" ::) is not a joke at all. Geezus did you even think about what you were even writing before you even typed it up? Show me a more degenerate bunch of individuals than the ones who grace the covers and pages of 'mainstream' bodybuilding magazine. I cant even type anymore of a response because of the absolute idiocy of your statement.
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And exactly how does one feel sorry for an attribute?
I feel sorry for your penmanship.
I didn't come here to publish a book smart ass lol.
If you don't understand what I mean than its your lose.
Now... back to TACO BELL FATTY!
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I didn't come here to publish a book smart ass lol.
If you don't understand what I mean than its your lose.
Now... back to TACO BELL FATTY!
Its my 'lose' ? ??? You make bodybuilders look good man. Nice work. Please tell me that English is your 4th language.
Since you are clearly hardcore and awesome, and I am a 'fatty' because of my username, perhaps a monetary wager of each of us in our best condition?
Hardcore!
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Haterz everywhere we go.....
I never knew one would need a masters in English and grammar like yourself to participate in discussions.
Perhaps you would do better on a shakespeare board editing peoples essays? Either way I couldn't care less. Have a good day hater.
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Haterz everywhere we go.....
I never knew one would need a masters in English and grammar like yourself to participate in discussions.
Perhaps you would do better on a shakespeare board editing peoples essays? Either way I couldn't care less. Have a good day hater.
LOL what exactly am I hating on?
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Bump after 6 years. Why not. I like the thread and topic. And yes...I absolutely believe that Layne in steroid and GH free.
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the difference in his physique from when hes off season to competing says drug use.
Guy doesnt even look like he lifts offseason.
(https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2010/layne_norton_comeback_3_c.jpg)
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Doug Miller also claims natural
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/x9t-gxYPjj4/maxresdefault.jpg)
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/50f8cc5de4b0a0c4aab51365/t/5459dfbce4b06a5e573f9959/1415176125231/Screen+Shot+2014-11-05+at+3.27.31+AM.png)
(https://musclemecca.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9388)
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Doug Miller also claims natural
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/x9t-gxYPjj4/maxresdefault.jpg)
(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/50f8cc5de4b0a0c4aab51365/t/5459dfbce4b06a5e573f9959/1415176125231/Screen+Shot+2014-11-05+at+3.27.31+AM.png)
(https://musclemecca.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9388)
in the Youtube comment sections he goes by the name Drug Miller these days.. just fyi
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in the Youtube comment sections he goes by the name Drug Miller these days.. just fyi
Lol haha too funny.
This guy has some balls to claim natural.
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Lol haha too funny.
This guy has some balls to claim natural.
Don't you mean that he used to have some balls, but now they've shrivelled into hibernation through all the steron abuse....
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the difference in his physique from when hes off season to competing says drug use.
Guy doesnt even look like he lifts offseason.
(https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2010/layne_norton_comeback_3_c.jpg)
Natural puffy nipples of peace.
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how many calories do doug n layyy claim to eat when gaining
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Natural puffy nipples of peace.
That photo you just posted was of Layne immediately after removing bandages from pec tear surgery. As you can see scar and bandage tape red marks. The guy was doing whatever form of meager training he could.
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That photo you just posted was of Layne immediately after removing bandages from pec tear surgery. As you can see scar and bandage tape red marks. The guy was doing whatever form of meager training he could.
only enhanced athletes shrink so much when the cease drugs and stop training
(http://www.british-bodybuilding.co.uk/images/daz-ball-3.jpg)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=400107.0;attach=540770;image)
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That photo you just posted was of Layne immediately after removing bandages from pec tear surgery. As you can see scar and bandage tape red marks. The guy was doing whatever form of meager training he could.
Layne is 100% NOT natural.