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Tucson shooting victim blames Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Sharron Angle
Politico (where else) ^ | 1/14/11 | Kendra Marr
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A wounded survivor of the Tucson shooting that critically injured Rep. Gabrielle Giffords is blaming Sarah Palin, House Speaker John Boehner, Fox TV host Glenn Beck, and former Nevada GOP Senate candidate Sharron Angle for the tragedy.
“It looks like Palin, Beck, Sharron Angle and the rest got their first target,” Eric Fuller said in an interview with Democracy NOW.
“Their wish for Second Amendment activism has been fulfilled — senseless hatred leading to murder, lunatic fringe anarchism, subscribed to by John Boehner, mainstream rebels with vengeance for all, even 9-year-old girls,” he added, referring to the death of Christina Taylor Green.
Fuller, a 63-year-old veteran, had campaigned for Giffords during her re-election and was at the supermarket for her “Congress on Your Corner” event.
He was shot in the knee and the back in the tragedy that left six people dead and 13 wounded.
“I was in shock, and I just wandered out into the parking lot,” Fuller recalled. “And a woman was pushing a cart full of groceries out there. And I said to her, ‘I’ve been shot.’ And she just looked at me like I was crazy.”
Earlier this week, in an interview with CBS News, Fuller didn’t go as far to point fingers. Instead, he called the shooter, Jared Loughner, a “madman.”
“I hadn’t ever had any kind of trauma experience at that level before,” he told CBS. “And I didn’t know — I didn’t quite know how to react. I felt like we were in for more, and possibly to be given a coup de grace by this madman that was so vigorously exercising his Second Amendment rights.”
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47620.html#ixzz1B2FqpppH
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I really don't know what to say to this person other than to STFU MORON.
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Tucson shooting victim blames Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Sharron Angle
Politico (where else) ^ | 1/14/11 | Kendra Marr
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A wounded survivor of the Tucson shooting that critically injured Rep. Gabrielle Giffords is blaming Sarah Palin, House Speaker John Boehner, Fox TV host Glenn Beck, and former Nevada GOP Senate candidate Sharron Angle for the tragedy.
“It looks like Palin, Beck, Sharron Angle and the rest got their first target,” Eric Fuller said in an interview with Democracy NOW.
“Their wish for Second Amendment activism has been fulfilled — senseless hatred leading to murder, lunatic fringe anarchism, subscribed to by John Boehner, mainstream rebels with vengeance for all, even 9-year-old girls,” he added, referring to the death of Christina Taylor Green.
Fuller, a 63-year-old veteran, had campaigned for Giffords during her re-election and was at the supermarket for her “Congress on Your Corner” event.
He was shot in the knee and the back in the tragedy that left six people dead and 13 wounded.
“I was in shock, and I just wandered out into the parking lot,” Fuller recalled. “And a woman was pushing a cart full of groceries out there. And I said to her, ‘I’ve been shot.’ And she just looked at me like I was crazy.”
Earlier this week, in an interview with CBS News, Fuller didn’t go as far to point fingers. Instead, he called the shooter, Jared Loughner, a “madman.”
“I hadn’t ever had any kind of trauma experience at that level before,” he told CBS. “And I didn’t know — I didn’t quite know how to react. I felt like we were in for more, and possibly to be given a coup de grace by this madman that was so vigorously exercising his Second Amendment rights.”
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47620.html#ixzz1B2FqpppH
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I really don't know what to say to this person other than to STFU MORON.
this guy is as entitled to his opion as anyone else (maybe more)
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Fine, I blame Pelosi for this shooting.
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Fine, I blame Pelosi for this shooting.
i think someone who was shot or there has more weight than you. Besides we already know you blame Pelosi or Obama for everything. Nothing new there.
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i think someone who was shot or there has more weight than you. Besides we already know you blame Pelosi or Obama for everything. Nothing new there.
What if he blamed Al Gore for it?
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What if he blamed Al Gore for it?
it would still be his opinion right?
I wonder how being shot in the back might influence your opinion
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What if he blamed Al Gore for it?
Al Gore didn't put a gun sight on his district.
DOMINATED!
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i think someone who was shot or there has more weight than you. Besides we already know you blame Pelosi or Obama for everything. Nothing new there.
^THIS^
And this dude was bringing up Credibility.. Are you shittin me
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I blame Tiki Gholston because if he hadn't have started dating Arianny Celeste this kid wouldn't have done what he did.
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“I hadn’t ever had any kind of trauma experience at that level before,” he told CBS. “And I didn’t know — I didn’t quite know how to react. I felt like we were in for more, and possibly to be given a coup de grace by this madman that was so vigorously exercising his Second Amendment rights.”
This is perhaps the most ridiculous thing I have ever read, I was not aware that going into crowd and shooting a bunch of people was in the second amendment.
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Oh wait now i blame the son of sam.
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Oh wait now i blame the son of sam.
That is probably more plausible than Palin since this freak show was already thought to be future seril killer by those who knew him.
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Oh wait now i blame the son of sam.
Blame whoever you want I don't give a shit, but to the point they throw in he was a veteran, veteran of what? You would think that someone who swore to protect the constitution would have a fucking clue what it says.
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Blame whoever you want I don't give a shit, but to the point they throw in he was a veteran, veteran of what? You would think that someone who swore to protect the constitution would have a fucking clue what it says.
I guess Nam?
If some drunk hits me with his car, should I blame Coors or Miller?
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"If ballots don't work, bullets will."
Joyce Kaufman (was supposed to be Allen West's Chief of Staff until this comment
I hope that's not where we're going, but, you know, if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around? I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out
. Sharon Angle
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I guess Nam?
If some drunk hits me with his car, should I blame Coors or Miller?
Possibly if he enlisted when he was 18 would have been 1966. I just don't like the fact that they like to throw in veteran, and not give any specifics. Half the time it turns out not to be true.
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Again dipshit - this guy DID NOT EVEN VOTE IN 2010!
His friends said he did not watch cable TV or political radio, and if anything, was a leftist like yourself.
And again - why do yu keep avoiding the fact that he was obsessed with her since 2007 and went downhill in life as a result of the lost jobs and breakup with the GF?
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Joyce Kaufman (was supposed to be Allen West's Chief of Staff until this comment
. Sharon Angle
If you notice all these comments come from people who I bet have never even seen a real gun up close. Tough talk for the sake of dramatics.
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Joyce Kaufman (was supposed to be Allen West's Chief of Staff until this comment
. Sharon Angle
Straw - if harm comes to Palin - can I blame the left for the vitriol against her, regardless of who does it and what theit motivation is?
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Again dipshit - this guy DID NOT EVEN VOTE IN 2010!
His friends said he did not watch cable TV or political radio, and if anything, was a leftist like yourself.
And again - why do yu keep avoiding the fact that he was obsessed with her since 2007 and went downhill in life as a result of the lost jobs and breakup with the GF?
Look the guy is most likely a schizophrenic, which would explain his obsession with CT's, the occult, and general crazy behavior.
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Look the guy is most likely a schizophrenic, which would explain his obsession with CT's, the occult, and general crazy behavior.
and pot, muschrooms, salvia, booze, etc
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If you notice all these comments come from people who I bet have never even seen a real gun up close. Tough talk for the sake of dramatics.
how would I be able to notice what you "bet" is true about either person?
whether they've used a gun or not is totally irrelevent. They should be aware that, as political spokepeople or candidate, these kind of comments are completely inappropriate as political rhetoric (IMO). The obvious message is if you can't get your way from voting then you should consider violence as a next step.
these are the kind of comment you'd expect to see on GB.com but not from people who are running for office, polictical consultants, commentators in the media, etc..
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Straw - if harm comes to Palin - can I blame the left for the vitriol against her, regardless of who does it and what theit motivation is?
I'm sure you will and if it's valid then I'll agree with you.
You're aware that Giffords had received death threats, had her office vandalized etc..
who's to blame for that?
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how would I be able to notice what you "bet" is true about either person?
whether they've used a gun or not is totally irrelevent. They should be aware that, as political spokepeople or candidate, these kind of comments are completely inappropriate as political rhetoric (IMO). The obvious message is if you can't get your way from voting then you should consider violence as a next step.
these are the kind of comment you'd expect to see on GB.com but not from people who are running for office, polictical consultants, commentators in the media, etc..
Unless you are Obama of course. Then you can say anything, whether it be about bringing guns to knife fights, GOP being hostage takers, enemies, etc.
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I'm sure you will and if it's valid then I'll agree with you.
You're aware that Giffords had received death threats, had her office vandalized etc..
who's to blame for that?
Don't know, maybe the same person who shot out Eric Cantors' HQ windows.
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Don't know, maybe the same person who shot out Eric Cantors' HQ windows.
wasn't that proven to have nothing to do with Cantor?
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wasn't that proven to have nothing to do with Cantor?
According to the standards of the left now, nothing is ever disproven. Shit - Palins' Dad might be responsible too sincehe handled the rifle in one of her episodes.
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Straw - do you think Jodi Foster is to blame for Hinkley shooting Reagan?
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According to the standards of the left now, nothing is ever disproven. Shit - Palins' Dad might be responsible too sincehe handled the rifle in one of her episodes.
you mean the standards you've imagined and then assigned to the "left"?
As usual you're completely off the deep end
you're convinced that everyone is blaming Palin even when you can't show one person who has done so and you've been shown people who have explicity said she is not responsible
your opinion is immune to evidence
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you mean the standards you've imagined and then assigned to the "left"?
As usual you're completely off the deep end
you're convinced that everyone is blaming Palin even when you can't show one person who has done so and you've been shown people who have explicity said she is not responsible
your opinion is immune to evidence
Ha ha ha ha - are you freaking joking?
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Ha ha ha ha - are you freaking joking?
i bet straw still thinks that nobody has blamed palin for this...
yet another the post office is just fine moment from strawman
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i bet straw still thinks that nobody has blamed palin for this...
yet another the post office is just fine moment from strawman
Did you know GW was most likely a socialist and lib as we define the term today?
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Ha ha ha ha - are you freaking joking?
you've provided none
I've asked you for specific quotes and you haven't produced one
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how would I be able to notice what you "bet" is true about either person?
whether they've used a gun or not is totally irrelevent. They should be aware that, as political spokepeople or candidate, these kind of comments are completely inappropriate as political rhetoric (IMO). The obvious message is if you can't get your way from voting then you should consider violence as a next step.
these are the kind of comment you'd expect to see on GB.com but not from people who are running for office, polictical consultants, commentators in the media, etc..
Why is it irrelevant?
Hate to break the news to you but politicians are people just like anyone else, they are nothing special. Maybe if the public stopped treating them like they are anything other than PUBLIC SERVANTS we wouldn't have alot of the problems we do.
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Why is it irrelevant?
Hate to break the news to you but politicians are people just like anyone else, they are nothing special. Maybe if the public stopped treating them like they are anything other than PUBLIC SERVANTS we wouldn't have alot of the problems we do.
why would it be relevent whether they've seen a gun or not
can't see how that would make any difference
their comments that 2nd ammendment remedies or bullets over ballots gain "legitimacy" if depending on the source
If 333 said it no one would give a shit (other than to give him shit on this board about it)
If Obama or Palin or Angle etc. says it then some dipshits might infer that's it a legitimate action to take because they see a candidate or spokesperson making the comment
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Straw - do you think Jodi Foster is to blame for Hinkley shooting Reagan?
she might be if she put a target over his picture or said that 2nd ammendment remedies should be used against him
I'm not aware she did either of those things
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why would it be relevent whether they've seen a gun or not
can't see how that would make any difference
their comments that 2nd ammendment remedies or bullets over ballots gain "legitimacy" if depending on the source
If 333 said it no one would give a shit (other than to give him shit on this board about it)
If Obama or Palin or Angle etc. says it then some dipshits might infer that's it a legitimate action to take because they see a candidate or spokesperson making the comment
and what if this guy was motivated by a movie like taxi Driver?
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why would it be relevent whether they've seen a gun or not
can't see how that would make any difference
their comments that 2nd ammendment remedies or bullets over ballots gain "legitimacy" if depending on the source
If 333 said it no one would give a shit (other than to give him shit on this board about it)
If Obama or Palin or Angle etc. says it then some dipshits might infer that's it a legitimate action to take because they see a candidate or spokesperson making the comment
Most people that actually shoot and own guns don't say stupid shit like that, but that is because they have a respect for the weapon, that is why it is relevant
Again, politicians are public servants, why is that hey are suddenly hoisted on a pedestal, as if they are more important than everyone else? Seems to me they have made themselves targets by portraying themselves as something more than they are.
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and what if this guy was motivated by a movie like taxi Driver?
why do you keep asking about things that have no relevence to the topic
I've already told you many times that the only person to blame is the shooter, that he's crazy (as is everyone who goes on a shooting rampage) and that Palin is not to blame for his actions
how much more clear can I make that for you?
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Most people that actually shoot and own guns don't say stupid shit like that, but that is because they have a respect for the weapon, that is why it is relevant
Again, politicians are public servants, why is that hey are suddenly hoisted on a pedestal, as if they are more important than everyone else? Seems to me they have made themselves targets by portraying themselves as something more than they are.
so at least you and I agree that those are stupid statements
people in the media (politicians, candidates, spokepeople and pundits) should be aware that they are seen (for better or worse) as some kind of authority figures and they should be more careful with their choice of words.
That's it
nothing more complicated than that
Don't imply or suggest violence is an appropriate response
Is that unreasonable?
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so at least you and I agree that those are stupid statements
people in the media (politicians, candidates, spokepeople and pundits) should be aware that they are seen (for better or worse) as some kind of authority figures and they should be more careful with their choice of words.
That's it
nothing more complicated than that
Don't imply or suggest violence is an appropriate response
Is that unreasonable?
Most of the time violence isn't an appropriate response.
That in itself is the problem, I guess I'm in the minority, I don't consider reports or politicians authority figures. One are talking heads and the other works for me, the tax payer.
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you don't have to be as you're not crazy and not likely to be influenced by something Glen Beck or Sharon Angle, or someone else says.
But the fact is there are nuts out there who take that kind of stuff seriously (again, not saying that's the case with Loughner).
If Angle is going to talk about 2nd ammendment remedies then she should stop being coy and just say that her opponent should be murdered if she loses. No one would think that's appropriate.
There is no place in our modern political discource for veiled comments about violence.
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you don't have to be as you're not crazy and not likely to be influenced by something Glen Beck or Sharon Angle, or someone else says.
But the fact is there are nuts out there who take that kind of stuff seriously (again, not saying that's the case with Loughner).
If Angle is going to talk about 2nd ammendment remedies then she should stop being coy and just say that her opponent should be murdered if she loses. No one would think that's appropriate.
There is no place in our modern political discource for veiled comments about violence.
Do you feel the same way about Thomas Jefferson?
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This guy is confusing correlation with causation.
Sarah Palin talks a lot about guns.
Someone uses a gun.
Does not mean that Sarah Palin cause someone to use a gun.
I don't care for Palin, but it is kind of annoying to see people be irrational.
Although, it wouldn't hurt for Palin and the res to tone down the gun rhetoric because I'm sure they have some crazy fans as well.
I guess it's arguable that in a country in which guns are considered by some an important part of the checks and balances it's not surprosing to see someone use a gun as a political expressoins, so maybe in that sense she has some limited responsibility,
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damn... the right sounds like a bunch of whiny fcking bitches at this point.
man up fellahs. the left is playing dirty tricks, we know that. but instead of taking the high road (like obama's speech actually did) - it's a week of nonstop whining and moaning.
no wonder obama is gonna win in 2012. you'll run a victim, and while people sympathize with the victim, they sure don't follow them. Palin ain't a leader.
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Do you feel the same way about Thomas Jefferson?
in what regard
are you going to pull out his quote the metaphorical "tree of liberty"
that quote is often not viewed in the context in which is was written and it was written in a private letter to a friend.
It was not in a speech or given as comment to the general public
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;)
In all fairness, I have never seen sarah with a handgun.
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damn... the right sounds like a bunch of whiny fcking bitches at this point.
man up fellahs. the left is playing dirty tricks, we know that. but instead of taking the high road (like obama's speech actually did) - it's a week of nonstop whining and moaning.
no wonder obama is gonna win in 2012. you'll run a victim, and while people sympathize with the victim, they sure don't follow them. Palin ain't a leader.
Go crawl back under your rock, I for one am sick of your pointless, devils advocate bullshit.
Are implying that Obama is a leader? Fucking please the only people that would follow him are retards to begin with.
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damn... the right sounds like a bunch of whiny fcking bitches at this point.
man up fellahs. the left is playing dirty tricks, we know that. but instead of taking the high road (like obama's speech actually did) - it's a week of nonstop whining and moaning.
no wonder obama is gonna win in 2012. you'll run a victim, and while people sympathize with the victim, they sure don't follow them. Palin ain't a leader.
the left is not playing dirty tricks (IMO)
they are talking about comments, images, etc.. that have been part of our political discourse and have been criticized in the past and it's a legitimate topic to bring up (and you and NT both did)
I haven't seen anyone blame Palin and I've seen many go out of their way to clarify they are not blaming her for the actions of a crazy person
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Yeah ok Straw: "I am not blaming Palin, but, lets talk about the toxic climate of hate and guns she seems obssessed with to gullible Tea party people" has been the standard fare this entire week.
Its dishonest shit from cowards on the left who were beating this drum 30 minutes after the shooting and have not stopped.
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Yeah ok Straw: "I am not blaming Palin, but, lets talk about the toxic climate of hate and guns she seems obssessed with to gullible Tea party people" has been the standard fare this entire week. Its dishonest shit from cowards on the left who were beating this drum 30 minutes after the shooting and have not stopped.
It's completely fair to bring them up and they were bringing it up at the time the comments were made so what's the problem with talking about then again now.
there was criticism against this kind of rhetoric and symbolism then and there is criticism now
bfd
stop pretending to be a victim
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Because ithas NOTHING to do wit anything reated to this act.
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Because ithas NOTHING to do wit anything reated to this act.
certainly no direct cause and effect
no one has said otherwise
thought we had established that already
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certainly no direct cause and effect
no one has said otherwise
thought we had established that already
Then why even bring it up in the first place within 30 minutes of the act occurring?
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Then why even bring it up in the first place within 30 minutes of the act occurring?
Hope?
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Then why even bring it up in the first place within 30 minutes of the act occurring?
it was brought up here and in the media prior to learning the identity of the shooter
it was also brought up because the target (Giffords) was on the record talking about it so it's going to be part of the story.
Did you see Fineman talking about it and then saying "that doesn't mean she (Palin) is in any way responsible for this"
can't you get that through your thick skull?
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it was brought up here and in the media prior to learning the identity of the shooter
it was also brought up because the target (Giffords) was on the record talking about it so it's going to be part of the story.
Did you see Fineman talking about it and then saying "that doesn't mean she (Palin) is in any way responsible for this"
can't you get that through your thick skull?
::) ::)
Even keepin her name in the coversation implies its connected. come on bro - you are dense, but even you have to realize just keeping her in the discussion implies there is something there
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Now i blame the monkeys for that terrible TV show they had and essentially being the opposite of the beatles in everything but looks.
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::) ::)
Even keepin her name in the coversation implies its connected. come on bro - you are dense, but even you have to realize just keeping her in the discussion implies there is something there
only to people like you and Palin
I'm not a fan of Palin at all and I said before they even found this guy that the only person responsible was the shooter
get over it already
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Tucson shooting victim blames Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Sharron Angle
Politico (where else) ^ | 1/14/11 | Kendra Marr
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A wounded survivor of the Tucson shooting that critically injured Rep. Gabrielle Giffords is blaming Sarah Palin, House Speaker John Boehner, Fox TV host Glenn Beck, and former Nevada GOP Senate candidate Sharron Angle for the tragedy.
“It looks like Palin, Beck, Sharron Angle and the rest got their first target,” Eric Fuller said in an interview with Democracy NOW.
“Their wish for Second Amendment activism has been fulfilled — senseless hatred leading to murder, lunatic fringe anarchism, subscribed to by John Boehner, mainstream rebels with vengeance for all, even 9-year-old girls,” he added, referring to the death of Christina Taylor Green.
Fuller, a 63-year-old veteran, had campaigned for Giffords during her re-election and was at the supermarket for her “Congress on Your Corner” event.
He was shot in the knee and the back in the tragedy that left six people dead and 13 wounded.
“I was in shock, and I just wandered out into the parking lot,” Fuller recalled. “And a woman was pushing a cart full of groceries out there. And I said to her, ‘I’ve been shot.’ And she just looked at me like I was crazy.”
Earlier this week, in an interview with CBS News, Fuller didn’t go as far to point fingers. Instead, he called the shooter, Jared Loughner, a “madman.”
“I hadn’t ever had any kind of trauma experience at that level before,” he told CBS. “And I didn’t know — I didn’t quite know how to react. I felt like we were in for more, and possibly to be given a coup de grace by this madman that was so vigorously exercising his Second Amendment rights.”
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47620.html#ixzz1B2FqpppH
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I really don't know what to say to this person other than to STFU MORON.
Just parroting what a number of liberals said right after the shooting.
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only to people like you and Palin
I'm not a fan of Palin at all and I said before they even found this guy that the only person responsible was the shooter
get over it already
are you ready to admit that many of the left have blamed palin?
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Anyone want t see where this insanity eminates from on the ar left? Check this out.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4696890
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"on the left".
Dude, 2 months ago, you hated obama, but you understood it's all smoke and mirrors. You knew the banks and corps ran everything, and that congress and the white house was a sham for bigger decision makers. You posted lots of books, and you seemed to know what's going on.
Then... .the media tries to pin some shit on your 'baby girl'... and suddenly you're screaming LIB every five seconds. Come on man... you know the deal. take the emotion out of it. the media, those in govt, they're getting rich off us glued to Hannity and arguing all day long.
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"on the left".
Dude, 2 months ago, you hated obama, but you understood it's all smoke and mirrors. You knew the banks and corps ran everything, and that congress and the white house was a sham for bigger decision makers. You posted lots of books, and you seemed to know what's going on.
Then... .the media tries to pin some shit on your 'baby girl'... and suddenly you're screaming LIB every five seconds. Come on man... you know the deal. take the emotion out of it. the media, those in govt, they're getting rich off us glued to Hannity and arguing all day long.
I ca multitask 240. I also hate Sean Vanity but nice try
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Just parroting what a number of liberals said right after the shooting.
says the girl who parrots newsmax and worldnetdaily here on a virtually a daily basis
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says the girl who parrots newsmax and worldnetdaily here on a virtually a daily basis
I wish I could figure out what you parrot but damn, I don't even think that nonsense is in print. ;D ;D
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I wish I could figure out what you parrot but damn, I don't even think that nonsense is in print. ;D ;D
and you parrot whichever of the voices in your head is yelling the loudest that day
333 - serious question. You seem to really hate this country. Have you ever considered moving somewhere else where there are less things to make you angry
you could move to Somolia. They don't really even have a functioning goverment. I'll bet the taxes are really low
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and you parrot whichever of the voices in your head is yelling the loudest that day
333 - serious question. You seem to really hate this country. Have you ever considered moving somewhere else where there are less things to make you angry
you could move to Somolia. They don't really even have a functioning goverment. I'll bet the taxes are really low
If you want to know where I get 90% of my info:
RCP
WSJ
FR
Bloomberg
CNBC
As for moving to Somalia - nah - I geneally detest muslim fanatics.
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Ha ha ha ha - I just read that this lunatic was arrested for making death threats again a gop pol at a town hall event today. Ha ha ha. Ill post the link later.
Climate of hate bitches.
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If you want to know where I get 90% of my info:
RCP
WSJ
FR
Bloomberg
CNBC
As for moving to Somalia - nah - I geneally detest muslim fanatics.
which one of those told you Obama was a secret muslim communist who is intentionally trying to detroy the country?
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Nothing secret about it.
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says the girl who parrots newsmax and worldnetdaily here on a virtually a daily basis
lol says the guy who watchs olberdousch and maddow... ::)
hey straw they arent biased right?
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Can I blame obama now for this loon making death threats against tea party people?
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lol says the guy who watchs olberdousch and maddow... ::)
hey straw they arent biased right?
everyone is biased
only Faux News is fair and balanced
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everyone is biased
only Faux News is fair and balanced
LOL glad you can realize that these days...
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LOL glad you can realize that these days...
just like you and I are both biased
everyone is biased to some extent toward their own point of view
I actually try hard in my work life to see from other people perspectives as much as I can. It helps in negotiations if you can really understand what motivates someone and if you can try to stand in their shoes so to speak and get their perspective
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just like you and I are both biased
everyone is biased to some extent toward their own point of view
I actually try hard in my work life to see from other people perspectives as much as I can. It helps in negotiations if you can really understand what motivates someone and if you can try to stand in their shoes so to speak and get their perspective
i try to do this in everyday life as well, its hard with ppl you know but it really does help if you get cut off or some bs like that...
for all you know that person was racing to something important or has just got fired...
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i try to do this in everyday life as well, its hard with ppl you know but it really does help if you get cut off or some bs like that...
for all you know that person was racing to something important or has just got fired...
that's not really what I was talking about but since we hardly ever agree it's close enough
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that's not really what I was talking about but since we hardly ever agree it's close enough
I understand what youre talking about, it gives you a better insight in how they may feel and think and therefore a leg up in negotiations...
the more you understand about them the easier it is to find the wiggle room and how much there is.
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This moonbat at the town hall is the textbook leftist kook, just like loughner.
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This moonbat at the town hall is the textbook leftist kook, just like loughner.
Palin said Loughner was apolitical
Hasn't that been what right wingers have been saying all week
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Palin said Loughner was apolitical
???
how could she possibly know?
that's just silly. the guy worked on a political campaign...
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???
how could she possibly know?
that's just silly. the guy worked on a political campaign...
333 must think Palin is lying
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Watch the genocide school vid. The guy is a typical leftist kook.
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Watch the genocide school vid. The guy is a typical leftist kook.
I have.
I'm the one who posted that video yesterday
The only thing this guy is "typical" of is someone who is batshit crazy
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what was palin's link about the gyy being 'apolitical'?
That's flat out wrong. He worked on a political campaign.
Why would she want to rule out politics 100%? Weird.
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what was palin's link about the gyy being 'apolitical'?
That's flat out wrong. He worked on a political campaign.
Why would she want to rule out politics 100%? Weird.
this guy probably was slipping into craziness for a long time and eventually just snapped
most of his rantings about gold and the constitution sound like tea party rhetoric but we haven't heard of any political motivation for what he did but then we haven't heard anything directly from him about what his motivation was (if any).
from watching that school video I think it could have been just as likely he could have gone on a shooting spree there
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did she really use the word apolitical?
i would seriously laugh at like 50 dB at that.
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did she really use the word apolitical?
i would seriously laugh at like 50 dB at that.
yes
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wow.... imagine trying to remove politics from the shooting... when a politician was shot by a guy who worked for a political campaign and ranted about polirics quite extensively.
She's a liar. Or she's confused. I dunno.
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wow.... imagine trying to remove politics from the shooting... when a politician was shot by a guy who worked for a political campaign and ranted about polirics quite extensively.
She's a liar. Or she's confused. I dunno.
I don't see any evidence that this guy had a politcal motivation
just because he used some words or phrases that sound political nothing he said actually makes any sense and I haven't read anything that he's said since the shooting that indicates what his motivation was, if any
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I guess you missed the part about the two illegal wars and the geneva conventions.
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I guess you missed the part about the two illegal wars and the geneva conventions.
he said what makes the two wars illegal is the currency
what does that mean?
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Have no idea. This asshole who made death threats against the tea party people needs to be himself committed.
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Have no idea. This asshole who made death threats against the tea party people needs to be himself committed.
glad to hear you have no idea
for a second I thought you understood what he was talking about
this guy is nut
random mumbling about wars, currency, illiteracy, lucid dreaming, the inner and outer universe, etc...
none of it make sense so how exactly did you figure out what his motivation was
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glad to hear you have no idea
for a second I thought you understood what he was talking about
this guy is nut
random mumbling about wars, currency, illiteracy, lucid dreaming, the inner and outer universe, etc...
none of it make sense so how exactly did you figure out what his motivation was
olberdousch seemed to do a fine job, why dont we ask him?
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olberdousch seemed to do a fine job, why dont we ask him?
find a quote showing us that or give it up already
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find a quote showing us that or give it up already
"those politicians and commentors that have brought us to this time of domestic terrorism"
he is saying that those politicians and commentators brought us to the shooting...
do you not understand that?
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"those politicians and commentors that have brought us to this time of domestic terrorism"
he is saying that those politicians and commentators brought us to the shooting...
do you not understand that?
I'm not interested in riding the merry go round with you today
go back and read my earlier responses if you want to know what I think about that statement
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I'm not interested in riding the merry go round with you today
go back and read my earlier responses if you want to know what I think about that statement
lol you didnt say what you thought he meant....
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lol you didnt say what you thought he meant....
yeah I did
go look for it ...or not
I don't care either way
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240 - what do you think of the guy threatening the tea party.
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yeah I did
go look for it ...or not
I don't care either way
of course you dont b/c it means you were WRONG, and that olberdousch proved you WRONG...
you said something about him mentioning himself...that doesnt mean shit...
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of course you dont b/c it means you were WRONG, and that olberdousch proved you WRONG...
you said something about him mentioning himself...that doesnt mean shit...
you're entitled to your own opinion
I've made mine very clear
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James Eric Fuller, 63, who was taking part in the televised forum, was involuntarily committed for psychiatric evaluation on Saturday after he grew agitated, stood up to snap a picture of Tucson Tea Party founder Trent Humphries and shouted, "You're dead," police said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110116/us_nm/us_shooting_victim_arrest
Ahh, liberals. Talk about hateful rhetoric. Yet more death threats from the left. :-\
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James Eric Fuller, 63, who was taking part in the televised forum, was involuntarily committed for psychiatric evaluation on Saturday after he grew agitated, stood up to snap a picture of Tucson Tea Party founder Trent Humphries and shouted, "You're dead," police said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110116/us_nm/us_shooting_victim_arrest
Ahh, liberals. Talk about hateful rhetoric. Yet more death threats from the left. :-\
sounds nutty
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you're entitled to your own opinion
I've made mine very clear
opinions are fine but youre not entitled to your own FACT moron...
FACT: olberdousch feels that "those politicians and commentators have brought us to this time of domestic terrorism"
meaning he feels certain politicians and commentators have a direct connection to the shootings...
thats a FACT dumb ass
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opinions are fine but youre not entitled to your own FACT moron...
FACT: olberdousch feels that "those politicians and commentators have brought us to this time of domestic terrorism"
meaning he feels certain politicians and commentators have a direct connection to the shootings...
thats a FACT dumb ass
including himself
right?
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including himself
right?
LOL i guess that makes it ok?
thats DOESNT NEGATE THE IDIOCY HE SPOUTED!!!!!!!!!!!
secondly he didnt say he was responsible for this...he said if his words have ever, not they did
"those politicians and commentators have brought us to this time of domestic terrorism"
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There is no if in this statement brain child...this is a matter of fact statement...
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LOL i guess that makes it ok?
thats DOESNT NEGATE THE IDIOCY HE SPOUTED!!!!!!!!!!!
secondly he didnt say he was responsible for this...he said if his words have ever, not they did
"those politicians and commentators have brought us to this time of domestic terrorism"
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There is no if in this statement brain child...this is a matter of fact statement...
he never said anyone had a direct connection
that was something you cooked up yourself
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he never said anyone had a direct connection
that was something you cooked up yourself
"those politicians and commentators have brought us to this time of domestic terrorism"
are you fuking shitting me?
he isnt saying anyone is responsible for the shooting with this statement?
please tell me what he meant by "brought us to this time of domestic terrorism" then...
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"those politicians and commentators have brought us to this time of domestic terrorism"
are you fuking shitting me?
he isnt saying anyone is responsible for the shooting with this statement?
please tell me what he meant by "brought us to this time of domestic terrorism" then...
I can only guess he thinks he brought us to this time of domestic terrorism
I can't explain everthing the guy says
I can't explain everything you say either
last week you thought Loughner might be sane because you thought he had structured his ramblings in a way that you thought you recognized.
I couldn't explain that to a third party either
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I can only guess he thinks he brought us to this time of domestic terrorism
I can't explain everthing the guy says
I can't explain everything you say either
last week you thought Loughner might be sane because you thought he had structured his ramblings in a way that you thought you recognized.
I couldn't explain that to a third party either
lol he left the door open to it certainly, again i guess that makes it ok? is this another its not hypocritical if youre ok with ppl doing the same to you type of deal? ::)
do you think any politician or commentator brought us to this point in domestic terrorism like olberdousch?
obviously missed my point but then again the post office is doing just fine ;)
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lol he left the door open to it certainly...
do you think any politician or commentator brought us to this point in domestic terrorism like olberdousch?
obviously missed my point but then again the post office is doing just fine ;)
have you read any of my posts on this thread?
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For fuller the answer the answer is obvious.
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have you read any of my posts on this thread?
do you agree, that olberdousch feels that politicians and commentators played a hand in bringing this moment of domestic terrorism to us?
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Straw - what drove fuller to make death threats against the tea party leader?
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For fuller the answer the answer is obvious.
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Straw - what drove fuller to make death threats against the tea party leader?
my guess would be he's a bit crazy too
maybe he's suffering PTSD from being shot
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do you agree, that olberdousch feels that politicians and commentators played a hand in bringing this moment of domestic terrorism to us?
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110116/us_nm/us_shooting_victim_arrest
clearly the politicians and commentators who have brought us to this point should be denounced and ostracized from their flock...
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I've already said many times I think this guy was nuts and he could have just as easily shot up his school.
I don't think that the phrase " brought us to this time of domestic terrorism" means he suggesting direct cause and effect.
I certainly don't think Palin caused this with her stupid and constant gun imagery just like I don't think Olberman caused this with his comments. I do think that violent rhetoric by people in the media (pundit's, politicians, etc..) is irresponsible and could potentially contribute to violent acts by crazy people but I don't think that's the case with Lougher (though at this point we don't know it's not either)
just in case you're still confused - the above in my opinion.
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I've already said many times I think this guy was nuts and he could have just as easily shot up his school.
I don't think that the phrase " brought us to this time of domestic terrorism" means he suggesting direct cause and effect.
I certainly don't think Palin caused this with her stupid and constant gun imagery just like I don't think Olberman caused this with his comments. I do think that violent rhetoric by people in the media (pundit's, politicians, etc..) is irresponsible and could potentially contribute to violent acts by crazy people but I don't think that's the case with Lougher (though at this point we don't know it's not either)
just in case you're still confused - the above in my opinion.
I agree with you, but you still didnt answer my question...
what do you think he meant by "brought us to this time of domestic terrorism"? obviously he feels someone had a hand in bringing us to this point...
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I'm glad fuller is getting locked up.
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do you think its just bad wording?
b/c its obvious that he thinks politicians and commentators had some hand in bringing us to the shooting...
that is without question...
THAT MY FRIEND IS FACT!!!!!!!!!
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110116/us_nm/us_shooting_victim_arrest
clearly the politicians and commentators who have brought us to this point should be denounced and ostracized from their flock...
or they could apologize like Olberman did for helping, however unitentional, to foment a climate where violence seems to be suggested as as alternative to peaceful opposition of a political rival or idea.
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Why? Political rhetoric had nothing to do with loughner, but we do know it did fuller.
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I agree with you, but you still didnt answer my question...
what do you think he meant by "brought us to this time of domestic terrorism"? obviously he feels someone had a hand in bringing us to this point...
I gave you an answer to this already
I can only guess he thinks he brought us to this time of domestic terrorism
I can't explain everthing the guy says
I can't explain everything you say either
last week you thought Loughner might be sane because you thought he had structured his ramblings in a way that you thought you recognized.
I couldn't explain that to a third party either
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Why? Political rhetoric had nothing to do with loughner, but we do know it did fuller.
DING DING DING we have a WINNER
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I gave you an answer to this already
so you agree that olberdousch believes that possibly himself and CERTAINLY others have brought us to the shooting?
but you still feel he isnt blaming anyone?
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Why? Political rhetoric had nothing to do with loughner, but we do know it did fuller.
we actually don't know what motivated Loughner
my speculation is that he is nuts but we don't know if he wasn't also influenced by violent political rhetoric
I also don't know what motivated Fuller. He could also be nuts
As a general rule, sane people don't usually make death threats and they most certainly don't shoot up crowds of people, including children
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DING DING DING we have a WINNER
we don't know that statement to be true either
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so you agree that olberdousch believes that possibly himself and CERTAINLY others have brought us to the shooting?
but you still feel he isnt blaming anyone?
I think it's pretty clear he thinks (and he's made the statement many times before, as have others) that the use of violent rhetoric and imagery have no place in our political discourse.
I don't see him drawing any lines of direct cause and effect
that's my opinion
shit - how many times have I said that now?
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I think it's pretty clear he thinks (and he's made the statement many times before, as have others) that the use of violent rhetoric and imagery have no place in our political discourse.
I don't see him drawing any lines of direct cause and effect
that's my opinion
shit - how many times have I said that now?
if there were no direct cause and effect then how did they "bring us to this time of domestic terrorism"?
LMFAO you cannot be serious...
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if there were no direct cause and effect then how did they "bring us to this time of domestic terrorism"? LMFAO you cannot be serious...
I don't see him saying or implying direct cause and effect
you're entitled to your own opinion
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Rep dingle said it did as did krugman.
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Rep dingle said it did as did krugman.
I know and I assume you saw my response to both of their comments
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I don't see him saying or implying direct cause and effect
you're entitled to your own opinion
again opinions are fine
but when he says that they "brought us to this time of domestic terrorism" he is stating that they had a hand in the shooting...
THAT IS FACT DUMB ASS
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again opinions are fine
but when he says that they "brought us to this time of domestic terrorism" he is stating that they had a hand in the shooting...
THAT IS FACT DUMB ASS
THAT'S NOT A FACT DUMB ASS
that's your interpretation of his statement
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THAT'S NOT A FACT DUMB ASS
that's your interpretation of his statement
lmfao, and how do you interpret it?
all you say is you dont feel he is saying what i am, well what do you feel he is saying when he says they brought us to this moment of domestic terrorism?
sorry straw thats why words have meanings to convey ideas...his idea is that politicians and commentators brought us to this...
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lmfao, and how do you interpret it?
all you say is you dont feel he is saying what i am, well what do you feel he is saying when he says they brought us to this moment of domestic terrorism?
sorry straw thats why words have meanings to convey ideas...his idea is that politicians and commentators brought us to this...
I've answered that question already
scroll up
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I've answered that question already
scroll up
no you said that you didnt feel he meant what i did and said how should you know what he thinks?
thats fine we can never be sure what he meant, we can be sure what he said...he said they are responsible for this...
what do YOU FEEL he meant?
you do have the ability to form an opinion on his meanings, so please id like to hear them...
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no you said that you didnt feel he meant what i did and said how should you know what he thinks?
thats fine we can never be sure what he meant, we can be sure what he said...he said they are responsible for this...
what do YOU FEEL he meant?
you do have the ability to form an opinion on his meanings, so please id like to hear them...
I've already answered all your questions
btw - since when do you even care about my opinion?
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I've already answered all your questions
btw - since when do you even care about my opinion?
no youve side stepped them, but nice try
i dont really just showing you to be the idiotic fool you are...
post office
hypocrisey
olberdousch
I know im missing a number of them but others can fill in if they want
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no youve side stepped them, but nice try
i dont really just showing you to be the idiotic fool you are...
post office
hypocrisey
olberdousch
I know im missing a number of them but others can fill in if they want
whatever you say champ
I hope you feel better now
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George washington is a left wing lib.
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George washington is a left wing lib.
hahah forgot about that one LMAO
man straw you have a pretty good hit list bud
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hahah forgot about that one LMAO
man straw you have a pretty good hit list bud
thanks
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thanks
no prob, im sure these will be nothing in regards to your future ones as your brain disorder continues to progress :D ;)
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The far left took a major hit this week with the insanity of blaming palin.
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no prob, im sure these will be nothing in regards to your future ones as your brain disorder continues to progress :D ;)
the only problem with my brain is that I waste time trying to have a conversation with you
you're possibly one of the dumbest people on this board
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The far left took a major hit this week with the insanity of blaming palin.
BY FAR - the worst hit was TO Palin BY Palin
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Why? Her speech was right on point.
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the only problem with my brain is that I waste time trying to have a conversation with you
you're possibly one of the dumbest people on this board
hahahahaha
post office is doing just fine
its not hypocritical if youre ok with them making fun of you for doing it
olberdousch isnt blaming anyone when he says "they brought us to this time of domestic terrorism"
George Washington would be a liberal by todays standards...
yup im the dumb one hahahahhahaha
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hahahahaha
post office is doing just fine
its not hypocritical if youre ok with them making fun of you for doing it
olberdousch isnt blaming anyone when he says "they brought us to this time of domestic terrorism"
George Washington would be a liberal by todays standards...
yup im the dumb one hahahahhahaha
the postal service is not a business. It will be around when you and I are both dead.
I have no clue what your second sentence is about and I've given you my opinion on Olberman and you don't like it. What else is new
and yeah - Washington was most definitely a liberal in his time and the country he help found was the most liberal country on the planet at that time. No king, No Theocracy, by and for the people, etc.. and his hope was that it would get even more liberal
"As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality."
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J E T S
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the postal service is not a business. It will be around when you and I are both dead.
I have no clue what your second sentence is about and I've given you my opinion on Olberman and you don't like it. What else is new
and yeah - Washington was most definitely a liberal in his time and the country he help found was the most liberal country on the planet at that time. No king, No Theocracy, by and for the people, etc.. and his hope was that it would get even more liberal
"As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality."
LAUGHING MY FUKING ASS OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yup but im the dumb one hahahhaaa
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LAUGHING MY FUKING ASS OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yup but im the dumb one hahahhaaa
yeah dumb guys laugh alot at the wrong things
crazy guys too
you can hear Loughner laughing in that weird video of his
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yeah dumb guys laugh alot at the wrong things
crazy guys too
you can hear Loughner laughing in that weird video of his
yup, they also dont laugh at things that are obviously funny like the majority of your posts ;)
olberdousch kept a straight face while blaming politicians and commentators for bringing us to this time of domestic terrorism...
oh wait thats right, we dont know what he meant by that right straw? hahahha
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Mofo jets bitches!
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yup, they also dont laugh at things that are obviously funny like the majority of your posts ;)
olberdousch kept a straight face while blaming politicians and commentators for bringing us to this time of domestic terrorism...
oh wait thats right, we dont know what he meant by that right straw? hahahha
you really got a bug up your ass about Olbmerman
if you want to be chapped about someone blaming Palin why don't you focus on people who actually and clearly tried to blame her. 333 provided a few examples. Why not bitch and moan about them for a few pages.
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you really got a bug up your ass about Olbmerman
if you want to be chapped about someone blaming Palin why don't you focus on people who actually and clearly tried to blame her. 333 provided a few examples. Why not bitch and moan about them for a few pages.
LOL ive been chapped about it since day one when they started...unlike your dumb ass who didnt think anybody blamed her ;)
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LOL ive been chapped about it since day one when they started...unlike your dumb ass who didnt think anybody blamed her ;)
I don't think Olbmerman blamed her
333 had a few quotes from people who blamed her and I responded to those quotes.
why would you waste so much time feeling sorry for Palin
Why no tears for Angle, West, Beck etc....
Olberman mentioned all of them too
Why did you just interpret him to be blaming Palin?
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Tucson victim arrested for threat
By: Associated Press
January 16, 2011 09:10 AM EST
TUCSON, Ariz. — Grief-stricken after the Tucson supermarket massacre, shooting victim James Eric Fuller found comfort writing down the Declaration of Independence from memory while still recovering in the hospital.
The self-described liberal and military veteran became distraught Saturday, authorities said, when he began ranting at the end of a televised town hall meeting about the tragedy. He took a picture of a local tea party leader and yelled “you’re dead” before calling others in the church a bunch of “whores,” authorities said.
Deputies arrested him and called a doctor. They decided he should be taken to a hospital for a mental evaluation, said Pima County sheriff’s spokesman Jason Ogan said.
No one answered the door Sunday at Fuller’s home.
Fuller was one of 20 people shot at a Safeway store Jan. 8. Six people died and Rep. Gabrielle Giffords was critically injured with a bullet wound to the head.
In media interviews and on the Internet, Fuller, a former limousine driver and Census worker, has said he worked hard to get Giffords reelected in her conservative-leaning district. He was going over questions he had prepared for the congresswoman, wondering whether they were worthy, when the shooting began, he said in an interview with the television show “Democracy Now.”
He was shot in the knee and back and drove himself to the hospital, where he spent two days.
“I didn’t know how to calm myself down,” he said on the TV show, “so I wrote down the Declaration of Independence, which I memorized some time ago. And that did help to organize my thoughts.”
He also lashed out at conservative Republicans for “Second Amendment activism,” arguing it set the stage for the shooting.
Fuller returned to the Safeway supermarket Friday, telling KPHO-TV he had always considered trauma a figment of imagination until the events of Jan. 8.
“Today I’m back on my feet, more or less, and I’m in a combative mood,” Fuller said as he limped across the store parking lot. “It’s helping me. I’ve never had any trauma like this in my life.”
Later, he showed up at the home of accused gunman Jared Loughner, who lived within a half-mile of Fuller.
“He said he was going to forgive him for shooting him,” Richard Elder, 86, a retired medical mechanic who lives next door to Fuller, told The Associated Press on Sunday. “If anyone shot me, I don’t think I’d say, ‘Hey feller, that’s alright.’”
Fuller posted about eight campaign signs in front of his house during the last election, including one for Giffords. And although Fuller was friendly, he acted odd sometimes, Elder said. Once, Fuller asked him if he was going to vote.
“I told him there are two things I don’t talk about: politics or religion. I told him that, and he walked off without another word.”
He said Fuller had shown him his bullet wounds and seemed to be dealing with the shooting well.
The man Fuller is accused of threatening, Tucson Tea Party co-founder Trent Humphries, said he was worried about the threat, and the dozens of other angry e-mails he has received.
“I had nothing to do with the murders that happened or the shooting of Gabrielle Giffords,” Humphries said. “And I wonder, if he [Fuller] is crazy or is he the canary in a coal mine? Is he saying what a lot of other people are holding in their hearts? If so, that’s a problem.”
© 2011 Capitol News Company, LLC
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Tucson victim arrested for threat
By: Associated Press
January 16, 2011 09:10 AM EST
TUCSON, Ariz. — Grief-stricken after the Tucson supermarket massacre, shooting victim James Eric Fuller found comfort writing down the Declaration of Independence from memory while still recovering in the hospital.
The self-described liberal and military veteran became distraught Saturday, authorities said, when he began ranting at the end of a televised town hall meeting about the tragedy. He took a picture of a local tea party leader and yelled “you’re dead” before calling others in the church a bunch of “whores,” authorities said.
Deputies arrested him and called a doctor. They decided he should be taken to a hospital for a mental evaluation, said Pima County sheriff’s spokesman Jason Ogan said.
No one answered the door Sunday at Fuller’s home.
Fuller was one of 20 people shot at a Safeway store Jan. 8. Six people died and Rep. Gabrielle Giffords was critically injured with a bullet wound to the head.
In media interviews and on the Internet, Fuller, a former limousine driver and Census worker, has said he worked hard to get Giffords reelected in her conservative-leaning district. He was going over questions he had prepared for the congresswoman, wondering whether they were worthy, when the shooting began, he said in an interview with the television show “Democracy Now.”
He was shot in the knee and back and drove himself to the hospital, where he spent two days.
“I didn’t know how to calm myself down,” he said on the TV show, “so I wrote down the Declaration of Independence, which I memorized some time ago. And that did help to organize my thoughts.”
He also lashed out at conservative Republicans for “Second Amendment activism,” arguing it set the stage for the shooting.
Fuller returned to the Safeway supermarket Friday, telling KPHO-TV he had always considered trauma a figment of imagination until the events of Jan. 8.
“Today I’m back on my feet, more or less, and I’m in a combative mood,” Fuller said as he limped across the store parking lot. “It’s helping me. I’ve never had any trauma like this in my life.”
Later, he showed up at the home of accused gunman Jared Loughner, who lived within a half-mile of Fuller.
“He said he was going to forgive him for shooting him,” Richard Elder, 86, a retired medical mechanic who lives next door to Fuller, told The Associated Press on Sunday. “If anyone shot me, I don’t think I’d say, ‘Hey feller, that’s alright.’”
Fuller posted about eight campaign signs in front of his house during the last election, including one for Giffords. And although Fuller was friendly, he acted odd sometimes, Elder said. Once, Fuller asked him if he was going to vote.
“I told him there are two things I don’t talk about: politics or religion. I told him that, and he walked off without another word.”
He said Fuller had shown him his bullet wounds and seemed to be dealing with the shooting well.
The man Fuller is accused of threatening, Tucson Tea Party co-founder Trent Humphries, said he was worried about the threat, and the dozens of other angry e-mails he has received.
“I had nothing to do with the murders that happened or the shooting of Gabrielle Giffords,” Humphries said. “And I wonder, if he [Fuller] is crazy or is he the canary in a coal mine? Is he saying what a lot of other people are holding in their hearts? If so, that’s a problem.”
© 2011 Capitol News Company, LLC
like I wrote earlier today
he seems a bit nutty and perhaps suffering from some form of PTSD
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Ariz. Shooting Victim Apologizes for Outburst
CBS News - Associated Press ^ | 1/17/2011 | CBS/AP
One of the men wounded in a Jan. 8 mass shooting in Tucson apologized Monday for an outburst at a town hall meeting.
James Eric Fuller started ranting at the end of the program Saturday, then took a picture of a Tea Party leader and yelled, "You're dead."
"Deputies made contact with him, attempted to remove him, and he turned around and yelled at everybody and called them all whores," Pima County sheriff's spokesman Jason Ogan told The Associated Press.
Fuller was taken away by law enforcement and later charged with threatening and intimidation, and disorderly conduct.
Fuller apologized through his girlfriend, Dorothy Deruyter.
He has been in a hospital since being involuntarily committed Saturday for a mental health evaluation but wrote a statement and called Deruyter.
Fuller apologized for his "misplaced outrage."
(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...
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hahaha PTSD, definitely. he's probably medicated out the ass too.
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Fuller "There would be torture and then an ear necklace, with Bachmann and Palin's ears...
NY Post ^ | 1/17/2011
...Giffords' progress came as new details emerged about the rampage victim arrested Saturday for shouting a threat during a town-hall meeting.
James Eric Fuller, 63, who was shot in the knee, had told The Post on Friday, the day before his arrest, that top Republican figures should be tortured -- and their ears severed.
"There would be torture and then an ear necklace, with [Minnesota US Rep.] Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin's ears toward the end, because they're small, female ears, and then Limbaugh, Hannity and the biggest ears of all, Cheney's, in the center," Fuller said.
Also on Friday, Fuller stopped by the home of gunman Jared Lee Loughner and told a neighbor he was going to forgive the shooter, The Associated Press said.
On Saturday, Fuller was carted away for a psychiatric exam after disrupting the town-hall meeting by taking a photo of Tucson Tea Party co-founder Trent Humphries and shouting, "You're dead!"
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1. Left wing Climate of Hate
2. This asshole forgives the shooter, but blames palin?
Nice. Typical leftist commie.
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I'm blaming matthews, olbermann, krugman, et al for this nut.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thecutline/20110117/ts_yblog_thecutline/caught-in-the-crosshairs-magazines-put-tucson-on-the-cover
In The Stranger's version, the locations of political assassinations and assassination attempts stand in for the Democrats who Palin's political action committee was aiming to unseat last year. "Sarah Palin did not put a gun into Jared Lee Loughner's hands ... but Sarah Palin and her cronies have spent the past two years cranking crazies like Loughner up," wrote Paul Constant in his accompanying piece.
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The far left commies look even worse than I thought they could after this latest episode. Massive backfire.
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Fuller "There would be torture and then an ear necklace, with Bachmann and Palin's ears...
NY Post ^ | 1/17/2011
...Giffords' progress came as new details emerged about the rampage victim arrested Saturday for shouting a threat during a town-hall meeting.
James Eric Fuller, 63, who was shot in the knee, had told The Post on Friday, the day before his arrest, that top Republican figures should be tortured -- and their ears severed.
"There would be torture and then an ear necklace, with [Minnesota US Rep.] Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin's ears toward the end, because they're small, female ears, and then Limbaugh, Hannity and the biggest ears of all, Cheney's, in the center," Fuller said.
Also on Friday, Fuller stopped by the home of gunman Jared Lee Loughner and told a neighbor he was going to forgive the shooter, The Associated Press said.
On Saturday, Fuller was carted away for a psychiatric exam after disrupting the town-hall meeting by taking a photo of Tucson Tea Party co-founder Trent Humphries and shouting, "You're dead!"
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1. Left wing Climate of Hate
2. This asshole forgives the shooter, but blames palin?
Nice. Typical leftist commie.
sounds more like a typical nut and maybe a typical person suffering from PSTD
why do you take every extreme example and then frame them in your head as being "typical" of anyone you disagree with
this guy clearly suffering from some mental/emotional challenges
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Probably because the media was going to use this guy as their poster child, then whoops he's a crazy fucker. They keep saying he's a vet, I have yet to see which branch of service or if he saw combat.
Strange how everybody has PTSD now adays.
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Probably because the media was going to use this guy as their poster child, then whoops he's a crazy fucker. They keep saying he's a vet, I have yet to see which branch of service or if he saw combat.
Strange how everybody has PTSD now adays.
he was shot twice a week ago
that would be the "traumatic" event
he is quoted after being shot of not knowing how to calm himself down
the quote from his neighbor makes it sound like the guy might have been a bit nutty even before he got shot
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Wonder where he got the idea for a neckless w gop ears.
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he was shot twice a week ago
that would be the "traumatic" event
he is quoted after being shot of not knowing how to calm himself down
the quote from his neighbor makes it sound like the guy might have been a bit nutty even before he got shot
Yeah PTSD is going to make you say a bunch of crazy shit like ear necklace ::)
OK here we go another fucking loon
http://www.hypnothoughts.com/profile/JamesEricFuller (http://www.hypnothoughts.com/profile/JamesEricFuller)
Wow he was a computer operator, non physical disability. Take guess what that means in military speak.
And a Bush hater to boot.
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I read this loon was dismissed from the navy for non medical reasons and has been on medical disability for forty or so years and has not worked at all.
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Yeah PTSD is going to make you say a bunch of crazy shit like ear necklace ::)
OK here we go another fucking loon
http://www.hypnothoughts.com/profile/JamesEricFuller (http://www.hypnothoughts.com/profile/JamesEricFuller)
Wow he was a computer operator, non physical disability. Take guess what that means in military speak.
And a Bush hater to boot.
his actions don't seem like what a "normal" person would do whether they were shot or not
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his actions don't seem like what a "normal" person would do whether they were shot or not
Of course not, the guy looks to be a section 8, guess the media really stepped on their dicks with this one
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Of course not, the guy looks to be a section 8, guess the media really stepped on their dicks with this one
I was busy so I didn't really pay attention to the news until this weekend
what did the media do other than interview him after the shooting and then report on his weird behaviour, arrests, etc...
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Go Figure…. Leftist Hero Eric Fuller Has Long History of Violent Unhinged Behavior
The Gateway Pundit ^ | 1/17/11 | Jim Hoft
Last year between the primary and general elections Fulller was the inspector of elections at the polling station she worked at in both the primary and general elections. First of all, just after the primary, during the training session, Marilyn said she was warned about Fuller. She knew he was confrontational. So she was worried. He acted very bizarre during the training sessions. During the day he would stand up in the middle of room and do leg kicks and karate chops.
One time, during the primary elections, Fuller went outside and started screaming at a woman who was handing out literature beyond the 75 foot limit. He chased her to her car. The woman was very frightened and locked her doors. Eventually, she fled to another station. Fuller also had a run-in with the police that day.
Sometime between the primary and general elections, Al Melvin was holding a town hall. It was pretty civil. Afterwards, Eric Fuller came over and started a confrontation with Marilyn. He just started arguing loudly and spewing the typical leftist talking points. Fuller is always reportedly looking for opportunities to argue with Republicans. It’s what he does.
They worked together again during the general election at the same polling station. Eric Fuller would get up and go play the piano during the day and he talked about how good democratic policies were to the people coming into the polling place.
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Go Figure…. Leftist Hero Eric Fuller Has Long History of Violent Unhinged Behavior
Posted by Jim Hoft on Monday, January 17, 2011, 4:38 PM
On Saturday Trent Humphries, the Tucson tea party leader, was threatened with death by far left activist and unimpeachable voice of the left Eric Fuller at a taped ABC town hall meeting in Tucson. Fuller was heard screaming “whores” at the audience as he was dragged from the event and arrested. ABC and Christine Amanpour decided not to show Fuller’s arrest to their Sunday audience. After all, it was just a tea party conservative who was threatened with death.
Fortunately, the arrest was aired by other more credible news organizations.
That wasn’t the first time Fuller found himself in a violent confrontation. On the morning of the Safeway shooting Fuller reportedly was seen arguing with a former Marine. This occurred before Loughner arrived and started his killing spree.
Marilyn Zerull, who ran for office recently in Tucson for the state house of representatives, is familiar with Eric Fuller. She shared with me today her experiences with the far left activist.
Last year between the primary and general elections Fulller was the inspector of elections at the polling station she worked at in both the primary and general elections. First of all, just after the primary, during the training session, Marilyn said she was warned about Fuller. She knew he was confrontational. So she was worried. He acted very bizarre during the training sessions. During the day he would stand up in the middle of room and do leg kicks and karate chops.
One time, during the primary elections, Fuller went outside and started screaming at a woman who was handing out literature beyond the 75 foot limit. He chased her to her car. The woman was very frightened and locked her doors. Eventually, she fled to another station. Fuller also had a run-in with the police that day.
Sometime between the primary and general elections, Al Melvin was holding a town hall. It was pretty civil. Afterwards, Eric Fuller came over and started a confrontation with Marilyn. He just started arguing loudly and spewing the typical leftist talking points. Fuller is always reportedly looking for opportunities to argue with Republicans. It’s what he does.
They worked together again during the general election at the same polling station. Eric Fuller would get up and go play the piano during the day and he talked about how good democratic policies were to the people coming into the polling place.
Marilyn felt Eric Fuller was disturbed and felt it was important for him to stand trial.
Another source and fellow poll worker I spoke with today who wished to remain anonymous also believed that Eric Fuller should stand trial for threatening Trent Humphries.
This weekend far left Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik announced that he was ready to release Eric Fuller after his pyschiatric testing unless Trent Humphries pressed charges. Is this really the right thing to do? Especially after 6 people were gunned down by a madman just days ago?
This morning Trent Humphries released a statement. Fuller is not the only one who has threatened Humphries. Trent is afraid for his own personal safety and the safety of his family. Fuller is just one of the loons who has threatened him after the Tucson shooting. But, Eric Fuller has a history of violence. He should remain locked up.
UPDATE: Eric Fuller issued an apology to Trent Humphries today.
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Go Figure…. Leftist Hero Eric Fuller Has Long History of Violent Unhinged Behavior
The Gateway Pundit ^ | 1/17/11 | Jim Hoft
I don't get the "Leftist Hero" part
how is this guy a hero?
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Pretty pathetic to bash a guy who just went through a trauma like that.
Why not try to be the better man instead?
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Sorry, I have zero empathy for this asshole.
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Breaking--man arrested for Tea Party threats has questionable history
January 17th, 2011 9:03 pm ET.
On Saturday, January 15, one week after the Tucson massacre that resulted in the death of a federal judge and the injury of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, one of the shooting victims, James Eric Fuller, was arrested for allegedly threatening a speaker at a Tea Party gathering in Tucson.
After an entire week of maligning conservatives, the Tea Party movement, and conservative talk radio for the shootings, the mainstream media barely mentioned the death threat against Tea Party speaker and co-leader Trent Humphries, although they did produce and broadcast a story on the incident. .
But on Monday, January 17, the media was fawning over Fuller, extolling his virtues by reporting he had 'apologized' for the threat and meant no harm.
Investigators, however, discovered that Fuller has at the very least a questionable history, which leads to the question, did the mainstream media adequately vett James Eric Fuller before rolling him out as a hero survivor of the Tucson attack who meant no harm by allegedly issuing a death threat to a member of the Tea Party?
A look into the background of Fuller will reveal a strange twist that raises serious questions about his history. No information on a James Eric Fuller can be found prior to November 24, 1997. However, prior to that date there is wealth of information on one 'Prince Eric Fuller.' In short, the history of Prince Eric Fuller stops on November 24, 1997, and the history of James Eric Fuller BEGINS on that date.
Why?
Court records of Pima County, Arizona indicate that Prince Eric Fuller changed his legal name to James Eric Fuller on November 24, 1997.
Who, then, is Prince Eric Fuller?
The U.S. Supreme Court heard a case in 1974, Prince Eric Fuller v. State of Oregon, in which the plaintiff had argued that an indigent person convicted of a crime could not be forced to pay court costs associated with that crime.
The crime with which Fuller was charged and convicted was 'sodomy,' the term used in the petition, or 'sexual assault.'
Prince Eric Fuller pleaded guilty in 1972 to sexual assault and was sentenced to 5 years probation and a work-release program.
Thus, are Prince Eric Fuller and the James Eric Fuller who was arrested for issuing a death threat to a Tea Party member one and the same?
And if so, why did the mainstream media fail to adequately investigate the background of the alleged perpetrator, which would show that he has a criminal history?
And why would a George Soros operative champion Fuller, using him as a tool with which to continue to bash Michelle Malkin and other conservatives, when no background check had been conducted?
Many unanswered questions remain as to the possible link between Prince Eric Fuller and James Eric Fuller. But the evidence at this time points in the direction of the 2 names referring to the same single person.
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Pretty pathetic to bash a guy who just went through a trauma like that.
Why not try to be the better man instead?
Trauma? He is a nut. World would have been better off if he was 6 feet under.
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Trauma? He is a nut. World would have been better off if he was 6 feet under.
nice logic ::)
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nice logic ::)
He is no better than Loughner. He has threatened people in the past. Maybe we should wait until he kills someone before society acts. Either put a bullet between the eyes or lock him up in a nuthouse and throw away the key. That is the only way to deal with LEFT WING psychos.
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He is no better than Loughner. He has threatened people in the past. Maybe we should wait until he kills someone before society acts. Either put a bullet between the eyes or lock him up in a nuthouse and throw away the key. That is the only way to deal with LEFT WING psychos.
Because you deal with right winged psychos differently?
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Because you deal with right winged psychos differently?
Stay on topic, son. This is about a LEFT WING psycho.
If you want me to tell you how to deal with right wing crazies, then open up another thread. Do you understand, capisce, entiendes Doctor?
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Stay on topic, son. This is about a LEFT WING psycho.
If you want me to tell you how to deal with right wing crazies, then open up another thread. Do you understand, capisce, entiendes Doctor?
I dont think the victims care for what political view the shooter had >:(
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I dont think the victims care for what political view the shooter had >:(
lol obviously false, seeing as this victim obviously cares about what he percieves as the tea party's role in the shooting...
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lol obviously false, seeing as this victim obviously cares about what he percieves as the tea party's role in the shooting...
BINGO.
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the guy saw a bunch of people capped and thought he was gonna die too.
he's probably just like 'fucckit' when it comes to restraint at this point.
we've all seen people with big plans for the future, who dealt with some life/death shit in military or violent crime at home, who just went nuts, right? Just stopped giving a shit about a thing?
Punish him for the crime... but trudging up misd sex charges from 40 years ago that "might" match his name in order to discredit him? I dont get it. He got arrested and committed. What else do you want? Zero cred on anything at that point.
Unless you've fallen to your knees and shat your pants while other people's blood splattered all over ya... ya can't just what he went thru.
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the guy saw a bunch of people capped and thought he was gonna die too.
he's probably just like 'fucckit' when it comes to restraint at this point.
we've all seen people with big plans for the future, who dealt with some life/death shit in military or violent crime at home, who just went nuts, right? Just stopped giving a shit about a thing?
Punish him for the crime... but trudging up misd sex charges from 40 years ago that "might" match his name in order to discredit him? I dont get it. He got arrested and committed. What else do you want? Zero cred on anything at that point.
Unless you've fallen to your knees and shat your pants while other people's blood splattered all over ya... ya can't just what he went thru.
Yeah, because all victims of crimes go around blaming people unrelated to the act and then threatening people with ear neckleckleses and death.
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the guy saw a bunch of people capped and thought he was gonna die too.
he's probably just like 'fucckit' when it comes to restraint at this point.
You need to stop watching Charles Bronson movies and come back to reality.
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You need to stop watching Charles Bronson movies and come back to reality.
Charles Bronson is a hero. Every year between bad superbowl commericials or when the game is a blow out, I put on the death wish marathon they have on AMC.
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Charles Bronson is a hero. Every year between bad superbowl commericials or when the game is a blow out, I put on the death wish marathon they have on AMC.
Him and Clint Eastwood are great.
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the guy saw a bunch of people capped and thought he was gonna die too.
he's probably just like 'fucckit' when it comes to restraint at this point.
we've all seen people with big plans for the future, who dealt with some life/death shit in military or violent crime at home, who just went nuts, right? Just stopped giving a shit about a thing?
Punish him for the crime... but trudging up misd sex charges from 40 years ago that "might" match his name in order to discredit him? I dont get it. He got arrested and committed. What else do you want? Zero cred on anything at that point.
Unless you've fallen to your knees and shat your pants while other people's blood splattered all over ya... ya can't just what he went thru.
As from the link posted you can see this fucker was unhinged to begin with, do I need to go dig up his actual military discharge information? 99% of the people that are in some life or death situation seem to deal with it and move on, but I'm supposed to feel sorry for the 1%ers who can't deal? Get help or do yourself in before you hurt someone else.
You want to talk about traumatic situation, I posted about the passing of Maj Dick Winters last week, you want to talk about traumatic he saw it all and then some. He wasn't all fucked up talking about making ear necklaces and shit.
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Stay on topic, son. This is about a LEFT WING psycho.
If you want me to tell you how to deal with right wing crazies, then open up another thread. Do you understand, capisce, entiendes Doctor?
Hey cha cha. Can you not answer a question Re: your dumbass claim? See, the problem with you suzy is, you think there is a difference in Crazy.. like one side has the market cornered in psycho. You still look through the political glasses.. which is actually amazing this day in age...Wierd and stupid.. but amazing none the less...
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Hey cha cha. Can you not answer a question Re: your dumbass claim? See, the problem with you suzy is, you think there is a difference in Crazy.. like one side has the market cornered in psycho. You still look through the political glasses.. which is actually amazing this day in age...Wierd and stupid.. but amazing none the less...
Problem is that the left wing MSM jumped out box and blamed Palin and tea party for all of this when the truth is the opposite.
Now we have left wing kooks talking about ear necklesses for Palin, Boehner, Bachmann, and the media is silent about it cuz it does not fit into the narrative they tried to fool the public with.
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Hey cha cha. Can you not answer a question Re: your dumbass claim? See, the problem with you suzy is, you think there is a difference in Crazy.. like one side has the market cornered in psycho. You still look through the political glasses.. which is actually amazing this day in age...Wierd and stupid.. but amazing none the less...
Racist post reported. "No labels"
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Hey cha cha. Can you not answer a question Re: your dumbass claim? See, the problem with you suzy is, you think there is a difference in Crazy.. like one side has the market cornered in psycho. You still look through the political glasses.. which is actually amazing this day in age...Wierd and stupid.. but amazing none the less...
Your post=gay.
You telling people to stay on topic on other threads, but not doing it yourself=gay
Don't get butt hurt, Gloria.
Just run along, champ. Grown ups are trying to have a conversation here.
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Your post=gay.
You telling people to stay on topic on other threads, but not doing it yourself=gay
Don't get butt hurt, Gloria.
Just run along, champ. Grown ups are trying to have a conversation here.
Say chief.. the topic is Crazies.. so again nancy, why do you think crazies are only on the left..
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Yawn :-\
Run along, doctor, and prepare for your PSA exam by sticking your own finger up your own rear end. I am sure you will enjoy that.
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Yawn :-\
Run along, doctor, and prepare for your PSA exam by sticking your own finger up your own rear end. I am sure you will enjoy that.
lmao
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lmao
Im sure..
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Ron Paul: Gun control push after Tucson massacre is ‘despicable’
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/ron-paul-gun-control... /
By Sahil Kapur
Tuesday, January 18th, 2011 -- 9:00 am
Texas Republican Rep. Ron Paul assailed as "nonsensical" the recent attempts at stiffening gun control laws in the aftermath of the shooting rampage in Arizona that killed six and left thirteen injured
In an op-ed for The Hill published Monday, Paul sharply denounced the violence in Tucson last Saturday, but said that "some have attempted to use this tragedy to discredit philosophical adversaries or score political points. This sort of opportunism is simply despicable."
Members of both parties, in response to the shootings that left Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ) critically wounded, have introduced legislation that would outlaw the selling of high-capacity ammunition magazines, close the "gun show loophole," and people from carrying firearms within 1,000 feet of lawmakers.
"This always seems to be the knee jerk reaction to any crime committed with a gun," Paul wrote. "Nonsensical proposals to outlaw guns around federal officials and install bulletproof barriers in the congressional gallery only reinforce the growing perception that politicians view their own lives as far more important than the lives of ordinary citizens."
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Pretty pathetic to bash a guy who just went through a trauma like that.
Why not try to be the better man instead?
Why? He put himself in the media by doing interviews, did you really think no one was going to look into his back ground?
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Ron Paul: Gun control push after Tucson massacre is ‘despicable’
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/ron-paul-gun-control... /
By Sahil Kapur
Tuesday, January 18th, 2011 -- 9:00 am
Texas Republican Rep. Ron Paul assailed as "nonsensical" the recent attempts at stiffening gun control laws in the aftermath of the shooting rampage in Arizona that killed six and left thirteen injured
In an op-ed for The Hill published Monday, Paul sharply denounced the violence in Tucson last Saturday, but said that "some have attempted to use this tragedy to discredit philosophical adversaries or score political points. This sort of opportunism is simply despicable."
Members of both parties, in response to the shootings that left Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ) critically wounded, have introduced legislation that would outlaw the selling of high-capacity ammunition magazines, close the "gun show loophole," and people from carrying firearms within 1,000 feet of lawmakers.
"This always seems to be the knee jerk reaction to any crime committed with a gun," Paul wrote. "Nonsensical proposals to outlaw guns around federal officials and install bulletproof barriers in the congressional gallery only reinforce the growing perception that politicians view their own lives as far more important than the lives of ordinary citizens."
I agree
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I agree
I can only imagine the conversation we would be having if Loughner went n a site and learned how to build a suicide belt and killed 50 people instead.
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Grayson Blames Palin For Arizona Shooting
National Journal ^ | 1/19/11 | Jessica Taylor
Former Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) places blame directly on Sarah Palin and Republicans for last week's deadly Arizona shooting in an email to supporters on Wednesday.
Grayson, a one-term Democrat who was ousted by Rep. Daniel Webster (R) by 18 points in November, is widely expected to run again in 2012. And while the note isn't an explicit appeal for money, there is a "contribute" link at the bottom of the message.
"When I opened my web browser yesterday, at yahoo.com, there was Sarah Palin, smiling at me," Grayson writes. "'Oh God,' I said to myself, 'what has she done now."
Reacting to Palin's defense of her controversial video on the Ariz. massacre and use of the phrase "blood libel," Grayson writes: "That's interesting, I thought. What else might Palin be defending? Cannibalism, maybe?
Grayson goes on to offer his own summary of Palin's appearance on Sean Hannity's Fox News show: "Palin: I am so misunderstood. Hannity: I am so misunderstood. Palin: I am so misunderstood."
Grayson says not only was Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz), who was critically wounded in the shooting at her "Congress On Your Corner" event, wary of Palin's rhetoric, but that the former GOP vice presidential nominee used the same "crossfire" symbol against him.
"Even before I heard earlier Palin's whining about 'misguided finger-pointing' and 'irresponsible statements from people who are apportioning blame,' I thought about this: Palin came to my district, and told her people to 'take me out.' Palin told people again and again, 'don't retreat, reload.'"
Running down threats to him, Grayson says one of his five-year old twins "received a telephone death threat intended for me" the day before last March's health care vote.
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