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A shot of Phil Heath guest posing this past Saturday at the NPC UTAH. 1,700+ people attended the night show and the crowd was great. Lonnie "The Swami" Teper emceed the night show and promoter Steve Schmall did a great job with the event.
Video from the entire guest posing coming shortly to FLEXonline.com.
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A shot of Phil Heath guest posing this past Saturday at the NPC UTAH. 1,700+ people attended the night show and the crowd was great. Lonnie "The Swami" Teper emceed the night show and promoter Steve Schmall did a great job with the event.
Video from the entire guest posing coming shortly to FLEXonline.com.
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A shot of Phil Heath guest posing this past Saturday at the NPC UTAH. 1,700+ people attended the night show and the crowd was great. Lonnie "The Swami" Teper emceed the night show and promoter Steve Schmall did a great job with the event.
Video from the entire guest posing coming shortly to FLEXonline.com.
he should atleast grow a beard or some hair , looks so weird with no eyebrows and no facial hair or anything what is he thinking? maybe to try to appear wider?
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he should atleast grow a beard or some hair , looks so weird with no eyebrows and no facial hair or anything what is he thinking? maybe to try to appear wider?
lol you should check out his previous guest posing when he was even more bloated
he looked like a jacked baby
at least he earn fans and money at the same time tho...
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Thank God, phil did not get any Cramps on stage this time around..... 8)
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WOw the fukin' god!!!! He looks huge :o
Next MrO after Jay retires right there!!
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:o What the hell is this guy injecting himself with?
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friends,,, this is the difference between professional and you,,, it leik gasolina,, 87 for generation nothingness gym rat bunk,, 89 fore decent cook,, 91 for professional,,,, this is top qualtey gasolina,, it maek that jason fella,, it maek that phil fella,,, it caould even make centofani mr O,,, all you need is trenbolgna acetona propionata and masterona friends 15 iu gh and you have here 91 gasolina only humans grade
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heavy, heavy androgen use and lots of insulin
young grasshopper learned well from the fridge
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Give him Vic martinez' clavicles and Phil wins 5 Sandows.
Still, he's the shawn ray of this generation and will always be one of the 20 best Bbers ever.
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Incredible!!! If he will not die by steroids, he will be the next Mr. O.
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Looks like he's becoming more complete, instead of all arms. Still like his 2006-2008 look better.
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eGive him Vic martinez' clavicles and Phil wins 5 Sandows.
Still, he's the shawn ray of this generation and will always be one of the 20 best Bbers ever.
because of the narrowness he's some kind of shawn/flex hybrid, but has an advantange over the other guys, given he has full access to jay's chemical list. i dont think there is a recent #2 or 3 guy who has had his type of access to a current mr o, given jay wants him to win vs anyone else. do you know of another mr o who gives his boy excess 5-6k guest posing jobs?
kia - given phil placed ahead of kia last yr, they will not let kia place ahead of phil again at the O
evan - he needs fucking yrs to catchup to the chemical battle going on his phil's system
cedric - boy is ALL mouth but has the genetics
kluco - again...he'll need yrs to catch phil
vic - DONE!!!
branch - they are giving him some rewards but NO WAY IN HELL AMI has a 5'5" mr o on their products.
when AMI calls it...phil starts his O run.
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because of the narrowness he's some kind of shawn/flex hybrid, but has an advantange over the other guys, given he has full access to jay's chemical list. i dont think there is a recent #2 or 3 guy who has had his type of access to a current mr o, given jay wants him to win vs anyone else. do you know of another mr o who gives his boy excess 5-6k guest posing jobs?
kia - given phil placed ahead of kia last yr, they will not let kia place ahead of phil again at the O
evan - he needs fucking yrs to catchup to the chemical battle going on his phil's system
cedric - boy is ALL mouth but has the genetics
kluco - again...he'll need yrs to catch phil
vic - DONE!!!
branch - they are giving him some rewards but NO WAY IN HELL AMI has a 5'5" mr o on their products.
when AMI calls it...phil starts his O run.
Please with Kai working with Farrah now when he shows up at the NY Pro looking jaw droppingly awesome, he's be the talk of the town again. Kai 2011 Mr. O.
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Please with Kai working with Farrah now when he shows up at the NY Pro looking jaw droppingly awesome, he's be the talk of the town again. Kai 2011 Mr. O.
personally i think phil has surpassed kai, dont see him beating phil on the O stage again. and kai showed this past O he cant carry the size on his 5'8" frame. phil is a long 5'9", could still added 10 lbs and get away with it.
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because of the narrowness he's some kind of shawn/flex hybrid, but has an advantange over the other guys, given he has full access to jay's chemical list. i dont think there is a recent #2 or 3 guy who has had his type of access to a current mr o, given jay wants him to win vs anyone else. do you know of another mr o who gives his boy excess 5-6k guest posing jobs?
kia - given phil placed ahead of kia last yr, they will not let kia place ahead of phil again at the O
evan - he needs fucking yrs to catchup to the chemical battle going on his phil's system
cedric - boy is ALL mouth but has the genetics
kluco - again...he'll need yrs to catch phil
vic - DONE!!!
branch - they are giving him some rewards but NO WAY IN HELL AMI has a 5'5" mr o on their products.
when AMI calls it...phil starts his O run.
Agree, but not sure about Kai tho...
in several weeks we will get clear picture...
If Evan could catchup to him, he than could take the O without a doubt.
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an amazing athlete
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an amazing athlete
lol
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an amazing athlete
hahaha nope
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Agree, but not sure about Kai tho...
in several weeks we will get clear picture...
If Evan could catchup to him, he than could take the O without a doubt.
Evan would destroy himself trying to catch up...he'd look like one of those Mcclusker cartoons with a wide ass waist, big droopy obliques...
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Evan would destroy himself trying to catch up...he'd look like one of those Mcclusker cartoons with a wide ass waist, big droopy obliques...
Yeah but at least Evan has built a ton of real muscle over his career and doesn't look like Inflator the cartoon character like Heath. Mark my words Evan will still be big even when he gets old, while Heath won't hold a single pound of what he's got..
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Yeah but at least Evan has built a ton of real muscle over his career and doesn't look like Inflator the cartoon character like Heath. Mark my words Evan will still be big even when he gets old, while Heath won't hold a single pound of what he's got..
bingo, fella heath is pumped full of air
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If Jay continues competing for 3 more years, Phil won't win the Olympia. Someone with better bodybuilding genetics will come along and surpass Phil.
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pro bbing used to be about barn door wide guys. heathd is a little twat
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Yeah but at least Evan has built a ton of real muscle over his career and doesn't look like Inflator the cartoon character like Heath. Mark my words Evan will still be big even when he gets old, while Heath won't hold a single pound of what he's got..
Why the fuck would he...did you see him when he first started competing? Dude has a good "baseline" that he built off of...Evan was a fat kid, Phil was a college basketball player, that even into his 3 yr as Pro bber he could dunk a ball...
You or I don't know what Evan or Phil will do in the future. Flex had said repeatey thar once he retired he would never train again, and Shawn Ray was pissed. And look at both of them now, Flex is the one that works out, and Shawn is the one has gotten fat.
Ton of real muscle my eye, dude hasn't even competed that much...they all are blown up on the same shit.
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Incredible!!! If he will not die by steroids, he will be the next Mr. O.
Why do you say that, you know something that we dont?
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Why the fuck would he...did you see him when he first started competing? Dude has a good "baseline" that he built off of...Evan was a fat kid, Phil was a college basketball player, that even into his 3 yr as Pro bber he could dunk a ball...
You or I don't know what Evan or Phil will do in the future. Flex had said repeatey thar once he retired he would never train again, and Shawn Ray was pissed. And look at both of them now, Flex is the one that works out, and Shawn is the one has gotten fat.
Ton of real muscle my eye, dude hasn't even competed that much...they all are blown up on the same shit.
They are blown up on the same shit yes, but Evan's program is based around freeweights and heavy lifting. In my opinion is why he will always hold huge size for years to come. Not to mention what you said, Evan is a mesomorph and has a bigger frame than those guys. Heath and Flex are bodybuilders first, then weightlifters. Which means they would rather just slam the drugs blow up and use mostly machines and bypass putting on dense real muscle by lifting heavy ass weights for years. The dudes that dont lift heavy, hard and are all drugs never keep their size, they always shrink right down to fuck all. Everybody wants to be a bodybuilder but nobody wants to lift no heavy weights.
And i'm not doubting Phil is a better athlete than Evan either. But I really cant see Phil being very athletic at all at this point in his career..
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But to most people size is size regardless if its dense muscle, all slin, synthol, plastic, whatever its all the same. Nobody even knows the difference anymore..
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Would love to know what Phil's cycle is like!
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They are blown up on the same shit yes, but Evan's program is based around freeweights and heavy lifting. In my opinion is why he will always hold huge size for years to come. Not to mention what you said, Evan is a mesomorph and has a bigger frame than those guys. Heath and Flex are bodybuilders first, then weightlifters. Which means they would rather just slam the drugs blow up and use mostly machines and bypass putting on dense real muscle by lifting heavy ass weights for years. The dudes that dont lift heavy, hard and are all drugs never keep their size, they always shrink right down to fuck all. Everybody wants to be a bodybuilder but nobody wants to lift no heavy weights.
And i'm not doubting Phil is a better athlete than Evan either. But I really cant see Phil being very athletic at all at this point in his career..
I got you...although, for Heath's first vid, he was using mainly free weights for arms and I think back, as well as chest...and he did pull ups...Flex would mix up free weights and machines...
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Would love to know what Phil's cycle is like!
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(http://rodebike.robertpanderson.com/images/2002_trek_7500fx.jpg)
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A shot of Phil Heath guest posing this past Saturday at the NPC UTAH. 1,700+ people attended the night show and the crowd was great. Lonnie "The Swami" Teper emceed the night show and promoter Steve Schmall did a great job with the event.
Video from the entire guest posing coming shortly to FLEXonline.com.
5% bodyfat but a lot of gh-water
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Phil for mr. O or get out of the Heath.
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This guy must have his hands on some amazing gear. He's really overpacking on that small frame of his. All drugs poster boy must have some indication that this is gonna pay of. Thatplastic trophy will be his probably. He looks ridiculous though better than Branch. First, having a bloated midsection became fine; then conditioning, now having a shitty structure seems to be ok also. WTF.
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They are blown up on the same shit yes, but Evan's program is based around freeweights and heavy lifting. In my opinion is why he will always hold huge size for years to come. Not to mention what you said, Evan is a mesomorph and has a bigger frame than those guys. Heath and Flex are bodybuilders first, then weightlifters. Which means they would rather just slam the drugs blow up and use mostly machines and bypass putting on dense real muscle by lifting heavy ass weights for years. The dudes that dont lift heavy, hard and are all drugs never keep their size, they always shrink right down to fuck all. Everybody wants to be a bodybuilder but nobody wants to lift no heavy weights.
And i'm not doubting Phil is a better athlete than Evan either. But I really cant see Phil being very athletic at all at this point in his career..
where do you people come up with this nonsense
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friends,,, this is the difference between professional and you,,, it leik gasolina,, 87 for generation nothingness gym rat bunk,, 89 fore decent cook,, 91 for professional,,,, this is top qualtey gasolina,, it maek that jason fella,, it maek that phil fella,,, it caould even make centofani mr O,,, all you need is trenbolgna acetona propionata and masterona friends 15 iu gh and you have here 91 gasolina only humans grade
What !?!? I only use 94 octane in my bike.. so I'm way ahead of the game!
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This guy must have his hands on some amazing gear. He's really overpacking on that small frame of his. All drugs poster boy must have some indication that this is gonna pay of. Thatplastic trophy will be his probably. He looks ridiculous though better than Branch. First, having a bloated midsection became fine; then conditioning, now having a shitty structure seems to be ok also. WTF.
This.
(http://images.yuku.com/image/jpg/21f366dd62c4232e240865445b5e8e431022270d_r.jpg)
unfortunately there isnt much difference between this guy n phil.
kerry must get that good prescription shit for phil and jay.
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But to most people size is size regardless if its dense muscle, all slin, synthol, plastic, whatever its all the same. Nobody even knows the difference anymore..
good post
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Lets all hope that Phil's constitution can hold up to the abuse he is doing. Kevin Levrone minus the booze probably had the right idea.
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where do you people come up with this nonsense
personal experience
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He's the next o for sure but he's young and already getting a wide waist his chest is also too small for his body
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This guy must have his hands on some amazing gear. He's really overpacking on that small frame of his. All drugs poster boy must have some indication that this is gonna pay of. Thatplastic trophy will be his probably. He looks ridiculous though better than Branch. First, having a bloated midsection became fine; then conditioning, now having a shitty structure seems to be ok also. WTF.
:( phil and branch are two example that proportion and structure is not a requisite no more.
that old video is sad to watch because they were actually better looking then.
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Good sized crowd.
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Good sized crowd.
That promoter made $$$$.
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Phil looks like shit in that picture.
He's got the word BLOATED written all ove his face. Steroid bloat, chubby, wierd fake looking muscle, unhealthy looking.
I'd rather look lean, healthy and fashionable than be a cholesterol ridden, bloated piece of shit.
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Phil looks like shit in that picture.
He's got the word BLOATED written all ove his face. Steroid bloat, chubby, wierd fake looking muscle, unhealthy looking.
I'd rather look lean, healthy and fashionable than be a cholesterol ridden, bloated piece of shit.
That is very mean what you said, but I totally agree.
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Looks like a lightly toasted Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man, minus the fruity sailor's cap. Either that or the poster boy for the newest Mr. Olympia "sponsor", Anal Eze.
Fuck that noise.
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That is very mean what you said, but I totally agree.
lmao
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Looks like a lightly toasted Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man, minus the fruity sailor's cap. Either that or the poster boy for the newest Mr. Olympia "sponsor", Anal Eze.
Fuck that noise.
Phil Heath looks more like the dancing Brazillian fagggot to me. Both have ridiculous synthol muscles. Both look like delusional twats.
When Phil Heath gos down to HRT dosages in 10 or 15 years he will look EXACTLY like th dancing Brazillian homo with his synthol muscles.
Fuck you Phil Heath. You represent all that is wrong with bodybuilding. You are a bitch. And a fagggot. Yup, I called you a fagggot. What are you gonna do about it? Nothing. Take a seat punk.
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That picture is retarded. And not in a good way.
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Phil Heath looks more like the dancing Brazillian fagggot to me. Both have ridiculous synthol muscles. Both look like delusional twats.
When Phil Heath gos down to HRT dosages in 10 or 15 years he will look EXACTLY like th dancing Brazillian homo with his synthol muscles.
Fuck you Phil Heath. You represent all that is wrong with bodybuilding. You are a bitch. And a fagggot. Yup, I called you a fagggot. What are you gonna do about it? Nothing. Take a seat punk.
Wow. How can you hate on someone who doesn't know any better? Its not his fault you know..
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1,700+. I see 2.
Note to current BB's. Even back in the 80's & 90's off season BB's in posing trunks looked strange. Today it is much much stranger. Guys, show up, do a seminar, talk about stuff, sign autographs, but you may want to tell your fans you aren't ready to pose. That's my suggestion.
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1,700+. I see 2.
Note to current BB's. Even back in the 80's & 90's off season BB's in posing trunks looked strange. Today it is much much stranger. Guys, show up, do a seminar, talk about stuff, sign autographs, but you may want to tell your fans you aren't ready to pose. That's my suggestion.
Does a whore tell her client that she's not ready to give a blowjob right now?
Nope. She just sucks that cock becaue she wants the money.
Bodybuilders are the same.
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The video of Phil Heath guest posing
http://www.flexonline.com/videos?bctid=846158123001&bclid=817403439001 (http://www.flexonline.com/videos?bctid=846158123001&bclid=817403439001)
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videohttp://www.flexonline.com/videos?bctid=846158123001&bclid=817403439001 (http://www.flexonline.com/videos?bctid=846158123001&bclid=817403439001)
why would anyone bring their daughter to a bodybuilding show (left of Phil)
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Jay vs Phil
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I support "BIG ANVIL"s theory. I also believe that Evan Centopani's muscle receptors all have little ear pieces and they communicate with each other via walkie-talkies during gym sessions. When they see Evan doing free weights they give Evan's brain the go ahead signal to "hold on to the mass". In Phil's case it's the opposite. Apparently by doing machines, muscle receptors have a "secret code of honor" amongst themselves so they sabotage the person by telling the brain to "let it go".
It has nothing to do with the drugs they take.
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I support "BIG ANVIL"s theory. I also believe that Evan Centopani's muscle receptors all have little ear pieces and they communicate with each other via walkie-talkies during gym sessions. When they see Evan doing free weights they give Evan's brain the go ahead signal to "hold on to the mass". In Phil's case it's the opposite. Apparently by doing machines, muscle receptors have a "secret code of honor" amongst themselves so they sabotage the person by telling the brain to "let it go".
It has nothing to do with the drugs they take.
What's happening, Sebastian? You woke up this morning and decided to be genuinely funny for once.
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Jay vs Phil
Jay really looks like a mutant frat boy but still is twice as wide as poor Phil (even more obvious once they turn around)
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I support "BIG ANVIL"s theory. I also believe that Evan Centopani's muscle receptors all have little ear pieces and they communicate with each other via walkie-talkies during gym sessions. When they see Evan doing free weights they give Evan's brain the go ahead signal to "hold on to the mass". In Phil's case it's the opposite. Apparently by doing machines, muscle receptors have a "secret code of honor" amongst themselves so they sabotage the person by telling the brain to "let it go".
It has nothing to do with the drugs they take.
hahahaha
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videohttp://www.flexonline.com/videos?bctid=846158123001&bclid=817403439001 (http://www.flexonline.com/videos?bctid=846158123001&bclid=817403439001)
THATS CRAZY... :o
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videohttp://www.flexonline.com/videos?bctid=846158123001&bclid=817403439001 (http://www.flexonline.com/videos?bctid=846158123001&bclid=817403439001)
That blue sparkle thong really added the necessary touch of class to make it a once in a lifetime experience for that crowd ::)
Rodney St-Cloud is gonna be harassing Phil over the phone about this.
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I cannot take credit MORTALCOCK. The funny belongs to Groink originally with my little twist. However I still laugh at his original version.
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(http://cf1.imgobject.com/backdrops/8c5/4d2279445e73d66b270038c5/running-on-karma-original.jpg)
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Jay vs Phil
Ha! Talk about awkward! The look on Jay and Phil is classic! :D
"No noise" for these guys as said @1:07 ;D
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videohttp://www.flexonline.com/videos?bctid=846158123001&bclid=817403439001 (http://www.flexonline.com/videos?bctid=846158123001&bclid=817403439001)
Wow!...how weird is that ???...he's posing for women :o
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why would anyone bring their daughter to a bodybuilding show (left of Phil)
Maybe the parents hope some loaded pro marries her ???
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Maybe the parents hope some loaded pro marries her ???
Then she can divorce him an get half of a lifetime supply of Muscletech products.
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I support "BIG ANVIL"s theory. I also believe that Evan Centopani's muscle receptors all have little ear pieces and they communicate with each other via walkie-talkies during gym sessions. When they see Evan doing free weights they give Evan's brain the go ahead signal to "hold on to the mass". In Phil's case it's the opposite. Apparently by doing machines, muscle receptors have a "secret code of honor" amongst themselves so they sabotage the person by telling the brain to "let it go".
It has nothing to do with the drugs they take.
;D Good one.
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maybe the worst bodybuild in history of bodybuilding,,ALOT OF OIL,,no calvicles,,very narrow very veey narrow ,,looks like a joke!
remember if this fella wins the o you can kiss bodybuild goodbye for good,,this is not! bodybuild,,if this win then vic richards should have won o long long time ago....and vic richards was 100 times better,,
this is NOT BODYBUILDING,,this is very small fella ,,very thiin fella ,,balooned up with insulina,,hgh and site enhancing oil YES THAT INCLUDES MAINLY ARMS,,INSTED OF THAT SHIT INTO THE ARM TRY GO GET A SURGERY TO FIX YOUR 16 YEAR OLD GIRL CALVICLES,,
disgrace
gh15 approved
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jesue fuckin christ hsi arms are OIL!!! now more than ever you can notice that joke is playing with oil !!,,NOTHING IS HIS NOT EVEN THE FUCKIN ARMS!,,by the way do not erase my posting if you want me to stay on this boarding,,not even about phil heath! i call it as it is ,,he IS NOT A BODYBUILDR ,,this is not ron ,,not even jason that is half ass balooned with shit,,this is ALL SHIT BALOONED WITH SHIT
gh15 approved
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jesue fuckin christ hsi arms are OIL!!! now more than ever you can notice that joke is playing with oil !!,,NOTHING IS HIS NOT EVEN THE FUCKIN ARMS!,,by the way do not erase my posting if you want me to stay on this boarding,,not even about phil heath! i call it as it is ,,he IS NOT A BODYBUILDR ,,this is not ron ,,not even jason that is half ass balooned with shit,,this is ALL SHIT BALOONED WITH SHIT
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Fuck that's a lot of shit.
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:( phil and branch are two example that proportion and structure is not a requisite no more.
that old video is sad to watch because they were actually better looking then.
abused aas,,
abused insulin,,
abused gh,,
come time to get incondition ......inject and tablet diazide and inject lasix
that is it ! this is what this fella is,, JOKE
not even deserving to be placed top 6 o! this is fake muslce
gh15 approved
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Fuck that's a lot of shit.
that fella pisses me off because many bodybuild much better along the years,,even now,,and they dont place because of this shit ,,this is NOT MUSCLE THIS IS NOT MUSCLE,,THIS IS OILY AIR PUFFED SHIT THAT BY THE USAGE OF DUIRETICS GET INTO CONDITION ,,this fella physiqe has nothing with good ole aas and little gh ,,it has all to do with mega dose insulina,,lots of gh ,,lots of aas ,,and DIURETICS! and i bet my life he is on narcotics too not because he lift heavy because he is pussy ,,but! because he just do it like he doses the rest of the shit he been doing ,,he is abuser of drugs ...this should not! be rewarded,,
his arms do not! look good,,they are oil beef no freak beef,,he has no ron colman arms not even close! much like jason arms size and nothing else ,,but the size with him is 1/3 fake! not 1/4 OR 1//6 ALMOST 1/3 his arms is SHIT FAKE,, DISGUSTING
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YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND IN THE FIRST PICTURE HE IS 6%! THIS IS NOT OFFSEASON BODYBUILD,,THIS IS BODYBUILD ON LOTS OF INSULINA AND GH WITH SITE ENHANCING OIL thats why he also dont get higher body fat ,,the useage of diuretic keep him 6% NOTICE THE ABDOMINALS THEY ARE ONLY COVERED WITH VERY LITTLE WATER,,THIS IS 6% AND THATS WHY HE IS FAKE! thats why this is not real muscle,,it is like dolls you buy ,,like the brazilian fellas only this fella uses aas too and gh too ......and go to the gym 4 times a week for 45 min ,,
this is disgrace and manion should really decided when enough is enough ,,this is really really not bodybuild,,this is not bodybuild,,200lb bodybuild look better
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friends,,, this is the difference between professional and you,,, it leik gasolina,, 87 for generation nothingness gym rat bunk,, 89 fore decent cook,, 91 for professional,,,, this is top qualtey gasolina,, it maek that jason fella,, it maek that phil fella,,, it caould even make centofani mr O,,, all you need is trenbolgna acetona propionata and masterona friends 15 iu gh and you have here 91 gasolina only humans grade
no this is a drug abuser,,this is drug abuser with very good respond to the drugs he abuses,,btu first and formost drug abuser,,AND! HE IS NOT BIG IN THIS PICTURE,,this size is illusion put any fella next to him and you will see,,his frame is a joke,, he is NOT big fella,,he is thick and fakly so by what i mentioned but any abuse of hormones wil get you thick,,then the seo gh insulina when abused create this joke,,btu thids fella is NOT! MUSCLE BIG he is fake muscle big,,this shit foesnt pop,,this shit doesnt flow,,this shit screams oil ,,this shit just look RUBBERY ,,rubbery is the last thing you want to look as bodybuild,,in his case it is lotta rubber with air...the face is full of androgenic oil and air from poppers,,body is straight out woudnt even be looked at in the 70s,,this fella would be looked at as a joke in the 70s he does not have the true muscle mass and freakiness of ron colman ,,he look worse than white jason who look real real bad ,,this is fucked up for real
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I support "BIG ANVIL"s theory. I also believe that Evan Centopani's muscle receptors all have little ear pieces and they communicate with each other via walkie-talkies during gym sessions. When they see Evan doing free weights they give Evan's brain the go ahead signal to "hold on to the mass". In Phil's case it's the opposite. Apparently by doing machines, muscle receptors have a "secret code of honor" amongst themselves so they sabotage the person by telling the brain to "let it go".
It has nothing to do with the drugs they take.
A physique built on years of freeweights will hold more quality muscle over time than a weakling physique built on machines and drugs.
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its sad phil heath gets rewarded for his drug abuse, someone should hand him the number of a psychiatrist instead of the number of the drugs dealer
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Phil Heath looks great - and that is offseason. 272 pounds.
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one again, gh is right about Phil.
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Phil Heath looks great - and that is offseason. 272 pounds.
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Phil Heath looks great - and that is offseason. 272 pounds.
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Dude all im saying is regardless of the drugs, a physique built on years or freeweights will hold more quality muscle over time than a weakling physique built on machines and drugs.
Its all about bone strength. Phil Heaths muscle built by machines and oil can't possibly have the bone strength by someone who built their body with decades of free weights. When his organs go and he's lucky enough to survive, he will look like Flex Wheeler's little brother who is 150 pounds and still pumping oil into his arms as he signs autograph's at bbuilding shows.
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Phil Heath looks great - and that is offseason. 272 pounds.
The use of massive amounts of oil has officially Jumped the Shark. Phil Heath is a guy who can put 4 inches on his arms in 6 months but not be marked down for it come contest time. How is that right/or good for the "sport"
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The use of massive amounts of oil has officially Jumped the Shark. Phil Heath is a guy who can put 4 inches on his arms in 6 months but not be marked down for it come contest time. How is that right/or good for the "sport"
Dude "massive amounts of oil" can't give you forearms like his...and his arms are not that big, never were, it's the detail of his tris that give him that "fullness".
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Him and Branch will place top 4 at the next 'O. Jay's almost going to look aesthetic compared to those two ugly dwarves. With Kai heading for another disaster and Wolf's lazy work ethic, sounds like the 'O is gonna be shittier than ever.
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Dude all im saying is regardless of the drugs, a physique built on years or freeweights will hold more quality muscle over time than a weakling physique built on machines and drugs.
WTF? Regardless of drugs and then you mention 'drugs'?
Seriously though, resistance is resistance. Do you think muscle has a mind and knows the difference between the stress provided by a free weight and a machine? Absolutely not. I think what matters the most is heavy resistance vs just pumping with 'lighter' weights that will permit someone to hold on to the muscle or not.
And make no mistake that a physique built on massive doses of drugs will lose plenty of that muscle once off regardless of whether it used free weights or machines.
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Hahaha he looks like shit. Jesus christ man at least these guys in the 70's looked good.
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Dude "massive amounts of oil" can't give you forearms like his...and his arms are not that big, never were, it's the detail of his tris that give him that "fullness".
His narrow torso also helps his arms stand out.
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WTF? Regardless of drugs and then you mention 'drugs'?
Seriously though, resistance is resistance. Do you think muscle has a mind and knows the difference between the stress provided by a free weight and a machine? Absolutely not. I think what matters the most is heavy resistance vs just pumping with 'lighter' weights that will permit someone to hold on to the muscle or not.
And make no mistake that a physique built on massive doses of drugs will lose plenty of that muscle once off regardless of whether it used free weights or machines.
woops, fixed. Im basically saying a guy whos done years of deadlifts, squats and bench presses will hold muscle longer than a guy whos worked out for half as long always used machines and relied mostly on drugs. Ive seen lots of former weightlifters who seem to always keep the thick barrel chest and wide shoulders even into their older years, while the drug reliant bodybuilder shrinks right back down to where they started when they go off like they never even touched a weight in their life. Your right though, if you've always relied on drugs whether you use machines or freeweights the muscle isnt there to stay when you go off.
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:D :D :D
"tiny little earpieces and walkie-talkies"
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Gh15 is either Ronnie Coleman or dexter jackson its gotta be.
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Give him Vic martinez' clavicles and Phil wins 5 Sandows.
Still, he's the shawn ray of this generation and will always be one of the 20 best Bbers ever.
I can't tell if you're serious here.
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What happened to "Bloofy?"
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Looks like we're seeing a gh15 meltdown taking place. Phil is a genetic freak. You're an ignorant ass if you think someone can pump themselves full of gear and look like him. We've seen countless cats who think they could and never come close. 6 years ago you were saying the same thing before he stepped on stage at the NPC JR NATIONALS. Hate on cause he's one of the few dudes who has delivered on his "hype".
There were close to 1,700 people in attendance and if you watch the video you'll see the place had a great crowd. The NPC promoter in Salt Lake City is doing a good job of building things up and if you're in the area look up Steve http://www.npcutah.com
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What's happening, Sebastian? You woke up this morning and decided to be genuinely funny for once.
no he just stole my material. >:(
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I cannot take credit MORTALCOCK. The funny belongs to Groink originally with my little twist. However I still laugh at his original version.
You obviously did not read the whole thread Groink ;)
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You obviously did not read the whole thread Groink ;)
ahhhh. that explains everything sorry for being a dick Sev
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Looks like we're seeing a gh15 meltdown taking place. Phil is a genetic freak. You're an ignorant ass if you think someone can pump themselves full of gear and look like him. We've seen countless cats who think they could and never come close. 6 years ago you were saying the same thing before he stepped on stage at the NPC JR NATIONALS. Hate on cause he's one of the few dudes who has delivered on his "hype".
There were close to 1,700 people in attendance and if you watch the video you'll see the place had a great crowd. The NPC promoter in Salt Lake City is doing a good job of building things up and if you're in the area look up Steve http://www.npcutah.com
heath is not a geneitic freak and you are closer to a shmoe than him to a genetic freak ! ,,you know it too but if you dont then its sad due to your many years in bodybuild,,i say always same thing aND I TEL YOU HE ABUSES ANYTHING AND EVERYTHIGN ESPECIALY OILS,,HE DOES NOT HAVE ANY SPECTACULAR PHYSIQE,,ANYONE CAN HAVE SLABS OF MEAT WITH OIL INJECTED TO GET ARMS UP ,,THIS IS LIKE THE BRAZILIAN MORONS ONLY WITH SHAPE TO MUSCLE AND WITH 16 YEAR OLD GIRL TORS!
ARE YOU FUVCKIN NUTS DO YOU EVEN SEE THE PICTURE OF RON COLMAN HERE,,PUT THEM SIDE BY SIDE,,PHIL HEATH IS A WANNA BE FRUIT OF GENERATION NOTHINGNESS,,HIS MUSCLE IS NOT REAL NOT REAL NOT REAL ! MARSHMELOW MAN DUE TO INSULINA AND LOTS OF IT AND THEN PUT IN CONDITION DUE TO DIURETICS! HE DOESNT HAVE THE HARDNESS NEEDED AND WILL NEVER! HAVE THE HARDNESS NEEDED ,,HIS MUSCLE WILL NEVER BE RON COLMAN OR DORIAN YATES CONDITION BECAUSE HE CAN NOT GET REAL DRY ANYMORE,,HE CAN GET RIPPED BUT NOT CHIZELED,,HE WIL NEVER BE DEX JACKSON AND THIS ! IS WHERE HE FAILED,,HE IS A 200-210LB FELLA ON STAGE WALKING IN A 240LB WANNA BE PHYSIQE WHICH CAN NOT PULL IT!
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i realy hate it when somebody pass somethign for NOT what it is ,,ofcourse he place well duh because he is blown up and get condition subpar that is at the zone of jason cutler circa mid 2000 which is NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR ANY GENERATION OF BODYBUILD ASIDE FROM THIS FAILED ONE! ,,if you think this is good ,,not great but good....then its a problem,,i see naturals who show better physiqe than phil heath
size need to be hard and shredded to count on stage,,he has natural muscle shape that is blown up and abused with seo ,,he is the vic richards of the 20 10s only problem is vic richards was afraid to get on stage back then lol and! vic richards was about 10 times better due to beter structure,,better thickness over all as in not marshmelow apperace,,even when phil heath is in condition that is good enough to go on stage he lost ALL HARDNESS EXPECTED IN TOP COMPETITION OF O ,,he took jason example that is not good due to jason end of career....and built on this advice which didnt give him shit because he was lackin F O U N D A T I O N
but remember,,when it come to ifbb its specific wantings,,thats why he wil place very well ,,because look around,,,only thing that count is the tape mesure and to bring it in condition that is enough to the level of competition which is VERY LOW TODAY,,
he is BLOW UP INSULINA DOLL!!! and yes many can do same but many chose not to do so because this is not muscle !
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also just as experience,,i could take liar jamaican boy from this boarding and put him on the same level of drug and hormone usage heath is on ....and i can garentee you jamaican mesormorph kid within 6-12 months look bigger! wider! tighter! and over all more 90s like than phil heath ,,and i will use anything phil uses to show you phil heath genetic is NOT GREAT....it is his genetic respond to blow up which is good nto his genetics,,
again any time any day ,,same drug to the jamaican kid ,,meaning he will have to take what heath take nto what jamaican boy take now but multiples and gh insulina seo and i garentee you jamaicvan boy walk on stage top 10 o within first year! of training this way,,i would prove it to anyone just so you understand how NOT IMPRESSIVE heath is with regard to bodybuild in general,,
only in this fuckd up generation this count as anything,,this is BLOW UP DOLL nothing more nothign less
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also just as experience,,i could take liar jamaican boy from this boarding and put him on the same level of drug and hormone usage heath is on ....and i can garentee you jamaican mesormorph kid within 6-12 months look bigger! wider! tighter! and over all more 90s like than phil heath ,,and i will use anything phil uses to show you phil heath genetic is NOT GREAT....it is his genetic respond to blow up which is good nto his genetics,,
again any time any day ,,same drug to the jamaican kid ,,meaning he will have to take what heath take nto what jamaican boy take now but multiples and gh insulina seo and i garentee you jamaicvan boy walk on stage top 10 o within first year! of training this way,,i would prove it to anyone just so you understand how NOT IMPRESSIVE heath is with regard to bodybuild in general,,
only in this fuckd up generation this count as anything,,this is BLOW UP DOLL nothing more nothign less
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But! But! But!!! Hes "THE GIFT!". ::)
Well, at least gifted to blow up like the michelin man when hes pumped full of hormones, yet still look soft like a marshmellow. Some gift.
Good Arms though.
Lulz. What a joke. I wonder who gave that kid his nickname.
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Phil looks exactly like what he is....a guy who started training 5 minutes ago, immediately jumped on the ENTIRE pharmacy of PEDs and packed a ton of drug muscle onto a small frame.
That said, he does that better than all the other guys out there doing the same thing.
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craazy
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Looks like Phil lifts weights.
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lol @ brospore
Humanity was not yet ready for Musclephone
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heath is not a geneitic freak and you are closer to a shmoe than him to a genetic freak ! ,,you know it too but if you dont then its sad due to your many years in bodybuild,,i say always same thing aND I TEL YOU HE ABUSES ANYTHING AND EVERYTHIGN ESPECIALY OILS,,HE DOES NOT HAVE ANY SPECTACULAR PHYSIQE,,ANYONE CAN HAVE SLABS OF MEAT WITH OIL INJECTED TO GET ARMS UP ,,THIS IS LIKE THE BRAZILIAN MORONS ONLY WITH SHAPE TO MUSCLE AND WITH 16 YEAR OLD GIRL TORS!
ARE YOU FUVCKIN NUTS DO YOU EVEN SEE THE PICTURE OF RON COLMAN HERE,,PUT THEM SIDE BY SIDE,,PHIL HEATH IS A WANNA BE FRUIT OF GENERATION NOTHINGNESS,,HIS MUSCLE IS NOT REAL NOT REAL NOT REAL ! MARSHMELOW MAN DUE TO INSULINA AND LOTS OF IT AND THEN PUT IN CONDITION DUE TO DIURETICS! HE DOESNT HAVE THE HARDNESS NEEDED AND WILL NEVER! HAVE THE HARDNESS NEEDED ,,HIS MUSCLE WILL NEVER BE RON COLMAN OR DORIAN YATES CONDITION BECAUSE HE CAN NOT GET REAL DRY ANYMORE,,HE CAN GET RIPPED BUT NOT CHIZELED,,HE WIL NEVER BE DEX JACKSON AND THIS ! IS WHERE HE FAILED,,HE IS A 200-210LB FELLA ON STAGE WALKING IN A 240LB WANNA BE PHYSIQE WHICH CAN NOT PULL IT!
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I don't get it
You said that all the "genetic factor" is about genetic respond to drugs and looks like Heath got it, right?
so he is genetic freak
he started at 180~ 10%bf ( he claims 185 and 8%, but they lie about starting stats) at 2002
at 2003 he was dominating the Colorado PRO approx at 190-195 on probably sub 5%
than he just kept progress on and on ( higher dose and slin added to the game)
BUT
i can bet he didn't even get to his starting stats natty - college BS player means PH's and light hormones.
i think it's the same story with Dorian and much more
so this isn't new to you, but i keep getting confused on what sculpted physiques are you talking about?
you said everyone everywhere any era all drugs some inject more oils some less but everyone does
what's your point?
he will never be like Dorian because Heath is already surpassed him size-wise
he will never be like Dex because Dex is tiny next to him
and he will never be like Ronnie because Ronnie is much more genetically gifted in terms of drug response AND YOU KNOW THAT!
so there is no point bashing him because they all are did and doing the same things.
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I don't get it
You said that all the "genetic factor" is about genetic respond to drugs and looks like Heath got it, right?
so he is genetic freak
he started at 180~ 10%bf ( he claims 185 and 8%, but they lie about starting stats) at 2002
at 2003 he was dominating the Colorado PRO approx at 190-195 on probably sub 5%
than he just kept progress on and on ( higher dose and slin added to the game)
BUT
i can bet he didn't even get to his starting stats natty - college BS player means PH's and light hormones.
i think it's the same story with Dorian and much more
so this isn't new to you, but i keep getting confused on what sculpted physiques are you talking about?
you said everyone everywhere any era all drugs some inject more oils some less but everyone does
what's your point?
he will never be like Dorian because Heath is already surpassed him size-wise
he will never be like Dex because Dex is tiny next to him
and he will never be like Ronnie because Ronnie is much more genetically gifted in terms of drug response AND YOU KNOW THAT!
so there is no point bashing him because they all are did and doing the same things.
correct in some way,,the reason im so harsh on him is because he doesnt have foundation and try to put short cut and compensate by lots of insulina and gh ,,this is also why he gained the pounds of fakness as i call it becuase its not built on foundation and with his horrible structure it will bring bodybuild even more down ,,thats what im saying,,he also did hormonize himself back when he was begginer he was very vry short time natural he was on very fast,,but thats not the point the point is he is just trying to compansate for yeards in the gym with insulina and gh ,,and seo! and im tellin you here that anyone on gh and trenbolona when got to 6-7% can start growing on insulina and blow up like a doll but not everyone wants it!! because some fella still believe in foundation and only then do it ,, in his cse he wanted everything fast fast and thats why you see this pieces of meat that is not tuned not ready just blob of rubbery muscle ,,look at branch he is horrible yes but he has some foundation !! under the shit he has foundation to some degree aside from his arms ,,but still phel heath just doesnt have the FOUNDATION of muscle neede be there inorder to use so much insulina and gh ,,yes he respond well and blow up but look at him closely ,,even FEMALES ARE BIGGER THAN HIM,,stand next to him YOU NEVEER FEEL LIKE YOU STAND NEXT TO PROFESSIONAL BODYBUILDER EVER!
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correct in some way,,the reason im so harsh on him is because he doesnt have foundation and try to put short cut and compensate by lots of insulina and gh ,,this is also why he gained the pounds of fakness as i call it becuase its not built on foundation and with his horrible structure it will bring bodybuild even more down ,,thats what im saying,,he also did hormonize himself back when he was begginer he was very vry short time natural he was on very fast,,but thats not the point the point is he is just trying to compansate for yeards in the gym with insulina and gh ,,and seo! and im tellin you here that anyone on gh and trenbolona when got to 6-7% can start growing on insulina and blow up like a doll but not everyone wants it!! because some fella still believe in foundation and only then do it ,, in his cse he wanted everything fast fast and thats why you see this pieces of meat that is not tuned not ready just blob of rubbery muscle ,,look at branch he is horrible yes but he has some foundation !! under the shit he has foundation to some degree aside from his arms ,,but still phel heath just doesnt have the FOUNDATION of muscle neede be there inorder to use so much insulina and gh ,,yes he respond well and blow up but look at him closely ,,even FEMALES ARE BIGGER THAN HIM,,stand next to him YOU NEVEER FEEL LIKE YOU STAND NEXT TO PROFESSIONAL BODYBUILDER EVER!
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Oh now i got it!
And can you please explain more about foundation and how to maximize it?
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if phil headth comes in shredded he will be the size of vince goodrum
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I don't get it
You said that all the "genetic factor" is about genetic respond to drugs and looks like Heath got it, right?
so he is genetic freak
he started at 180~ 10%bf ( he claims 185 and 8%, but they lie about starting stats) at 2002
at 2003 he was dominating the Colorado PRO approx at 190-195 on probably sub 5%
than he just kept progress on and on ( higher dose and slin added to the game)
BUT
i can bet he didn't even get to his starting stats natty - college BS player means PH's and light hormones.
i think it's the same story with Dorian and much more
so this isn't new to you, but i keep getting confused on what sculpted physiques are you talking about?
you said everyone everywhere any era all drugs some inject more oils some less but everyone does
what's your point?
he will never be like Dorian because Heath is already surpassed him size-wise
he will never be like Dex because Dex is tiny next to him
and he will never be like Ronnie because Ronnie is much more genetically gifted in terms of drug response AND YOU KNOW THAT!
so there is no point bashing him because they all are did and doing the same things.
Bigger than Dorian?....you are an idiot seriously.
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bigger than dorian bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhh some people here are really complete idiots.
dorian at his prime would have eaten little shrimps like headth for breakfast.
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bigger than dorian bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhh some people here are really complete idiots.
dorian at his prime would have eaten little shrimps like headth for breakfast.
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Some people just don't understand how good Yates was.
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Bigger than Yates. Epic fucking lulz.
Some people are fckin delusional. Heath would look like a child next to a 95 or 96 gp Yates, not to mention Dorian would make him look like the sta-puft marshmellow man.
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he has bigger ams, quads, and hammies than dorian. and more vascularity and striations as well. dorian was much more dense and had better shoulders and chest, mainly structural. their backs are pretty close actually.
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Dorian looked like he could walk through a wall and eat bricks. Muscle like granite. Heath looks like fragile doll in comparison. :D
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Chill the fuck out
It's not like i compared 130 pounds Asian to Ronnie Coleman...
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he was gigantic
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he has bigger ams, quads, and hammies than dorian. and more vascularity and striations as well. dorian was much more dense and had better shoulders and chest, mainly structural. their backs are pretty close actually.
bomz, seriously did you really say their backs are close? Yates was (still is) 2x as wide as heath. there is no comparison between the 2. bigger quads and hams? seriously?
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he has bigger ams, quads, and hammies than dorian. and more vascularity and striations as well. dorian was much more dense and had better shoulders and chest, mainly structural. their backs are pretty close actually.
Not anywhere close.
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maybe you need a shoe thrown at your head tbombz
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;D Heath bigger than Dorian................
And even if they were close in size, Dorian still had that granite like density that Heath could only dream of.
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Yes, that's the 'foundation' of "the gift".
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Some people just don't understand how good Yates was.
Good or big?
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the picture doesn't have 100% correct ratio for their height and width but still a comparison
think dorian looks better
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Phil looks better on his own. Put him next to another person and his structural weakness/smallness is evident.
This picture says it all: Phil vs an Australian amateur (not Dorian)
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the picture doesn't have 100% correct ratio for their height and width but still a comparison
think dorian looks better
Dorian would have made Phil look like a drunk retard who's got past security to try and outpose him on stage.
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Phil Heath - incredible shape and physique. All of you who don't think so just like to complain.
Meet your new Mr. Olympia in a few years.
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Phil Heath - incredible shape and physique. All of you who don't think so just like to complain.
Meet your new Mr. Olympia in a few years.
It's the nature of the "sport" Ron. You have to find flaws and be able to critique a physique.
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Ron Avidan- A man without perspective. All of you who don't realize it are just retards.
Meet your new Mr. Orange Chicken in a few years.
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Phil Heath - incredible shape and physique. All of you who don't think so just like to complain.
Meet your new Mr. Olympia in a few years.
Noooo way Ron, there are rookies coming who are gifted, like Evan and Cedric. They have a way better shape and foundation, so they can't be ignored.
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Phil Heath - incredible shape and physique. All of you who don't think so just like to complain.
Meet your new Mr. Olympia in a few years.
Not so fast Ron. These pre-anointed Mr. Olympias never work out. Flex was suppose to take over for Dorian, Victor was suppose to take over for Ronnie. If Jay competes for a few more years, someone with better bodybuilding structure will step up and crush Phil.
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he has bigger ams, quads, and hammies than dorian. and more vascularity and striations as well. dorian was much more dense and had better shoulders and chest, mainly structural. their backs are pretty close actually.
Um I beg to differ. I have seen them both up close and Dorian was solid granite with waaaay more pure muscle than Phil and this is not a put down on Phil. Other than maybe and I say maybe arms Dorian size wise wins by a mile.
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Um I beg to differ. I have seen them both up close and Dorian was solid granite with waaaay more pure muscle than Phil and this is not a put down on Phil. Other than maybe and I say maybe arms Dorian size wise wins by a mile.
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And the comment about his back is rediculous. Dorians back is waaayyy thicker, wider, and more muscular. Detail is close, but Dorian still takes it. Check 1:14 for example. Dorians back looks like a roadmap, his xmas tree looks to be carved out of 3 inch marble.
Ill give Bombz arms and quads, but really, do those things make Phil look better than Dorian? No, because Dorian took his superior structure and pushed it to the absolute limit of muscularity and conditioning, which Phil starts at a disadvantage with his narrow structure, and his quality of muscularity is waaayyy down from Dorian.
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Holey cow, dorian is impressive...15 years ago...
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And the comment about his back is rediculous. Dorians back is waaayyy thicker, wider, and more muscular. Detail is close, but Dorian still takes it. Check 1:14 for example. Dorians back looks like a roadmap, his xmas tree looks to be carved out of 3 inch marble.
Ill give Bombz arms and quads, but really, do those things make Phil look better than Dorian? No, because Dorian took his superior structure and pushed it to the absolute limit of muscularity and conditioning, which Phil starts at a disadvantage with his narrow structure, and his quality of muscularity is waaayyy down from Dorian.
Lotta haters.... i hate to say it though but this is the only guy in my eyes who will consistently beat Wolf because he can't come in this tight.
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Lotta haters.... i hate to say it though but this is the only guy in my eyes who will consistently beat Wolf because he can't come in this tight.
Never said he wouldnt.
I agree that he'll beat Wolfe, he'll beat everyone out there right now, even Jay (if he's off). I think it has more to do with a lack of talent in the pro's than Phil being gifted though.
The comment was in response to someone saying that Phil was bigger than Dorian. Phil is extrememly impressive by himself, but all his weakness' get exposed standing next to others.
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Never said he wouldnt.
I agree that he'll beat Wolfe, he'll beat everyone out there right now, even Jay (if he's off). I think it has more to do with a lack of talent in the pro's than Phil being gifted though.
The comment was in response to someone saying that Phil was bigger than Dorian. Phil is extrememly impressive by himself, but all his weakness' get exposed standing next to others.
Yes! I hate his posing though. He should tone down the ganster rap crap. He reminds me of every other cocky Nigerian (even though he isn't) i've ever met. Very unappealing for someone who wants to get into the sport.
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Lotta haters.... i hate to say it though but this is the only guy in my eyes who will consistently beat Wolf because he can't come in this tight.
phil might be "all illusion" but it really doesnt matter in the slightest when it comes show time. the dude is one of the sickest bodybuilders of all time, without a doubt, and hes only been doing this for what 8 years now?
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When Jay is done, of course the next Mr. Olympia will be on man of color. The Hierarchy wants to push breed mixing. Its all over the media. Why wouldn't bodybuilding(controlled by the Hierarchy) be any different. But I don't think Phil will be that man. It will be someone who comes out of nowhere like Ronnie did. If Phil is given the title, It will be a short lived title like what happened with Dexter. Phil like Flex Wheeler is basically all tapped out. Not a lot of "real" muscle there.
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Please with Kai working with Farrah now when he shows up at the NY Pro looking jaw droppingly awesome, he's be the talk of the town again. Kai 2011 Mr. O.
tru dat my knee grow
a conditioned Kai is the best bodybuilder at the moment...
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When Jay is done, of course the next Mr. Olympia will be on man of color. The Hierarchy wants to push breed mixing. Its all over the media. Why wouldn't bodybuilding(controlled by the Hierarchy) be any different. But I don't think Phil will be that man. It will be someone who comes out of nowhere like Ronnie did. If Phil is given the title, It will be a short lived title like what happened with Dexter. Phil like Flex Wheeler is basically all tapped out. Not a lot of "real" muscle there.
I don't know... Looks like he put on a lot of muscle there on from his last appearance.
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Phil like Jay will win the O when the top guy either steps down or comes in off. Right now there are no real freaks like years ago. Hell, 10 years ago we had a bunch of guys who if competed today would be dominating. If you look at the Nationals there's no real good bodybuilders up and coming. I think this is mainly cause when you think about it who in the Hell would want to compete today given the amount of drugs one must take. Also with MMA a lot of the young guys are finding this more of an attraction. The times they a changing.
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phil might be "all illusion" but it really doesnt matter in the slightest when it comes show time. the dude is one of the sickest bodybuilders of all time, without a doubt, and hes only been doing this for what 8 years now?
As long as someone doesnt come up who can get in shape with a better structure, yeah... Heath is always going to be fighting his structural deficiancies, and like Disgusted has said, he gets into shape but hes never gotten really super shredded (always has that bloofy look and lacks separation especially in the delts, etc). This could be just his quality of muscle, insulin, whatever, but it keeps him from being awesome to really being insane.
Not to mention when he stands next to people, his weakness' really start to show.
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Phil like Jay will win the O when the top guy either steps down or comes in off. Right now there are no real freaks like years ago. Hell, 10 years ago we had a bunch of guys who if competed today would be dominating. If you look at the Nationals there's no real good bodybuilders up and coming. I think this is mainly cause when you think about it who in the Hell would want to compete today given the amount of drugs one must take. Also with MMA a lot of the young guys are finding this more of an attraction. The times they a changing.
good post,,
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phil might be "all illusion" but it really doesnt matter in the slightest when it comes show time. the dude is one of the sickest bodybuilders of all time, without a doubt, and hes only been doing this for what 8 years now?
this is very very sad that i need to come back to this posting and correct the misguided individuals here,,
i am awarre phil heath is reading what i write here,, and im also aware that he is sensetive,,but i can not look past few things that in this generation will most likley no tprevent olympia title from him but never the less he shoudl never be the champ,,
those things are
1. he has no calvicles,,very very narow girly like narrow,,look very bad next to other people not even bodybuilders but regular people,,
2. this is very important what im going to write here,,aside from bad calvicles HIS CONDITION IS LACKING ,,IT FITS TODAY GARBAGE YES OFCOURSE IT CAN BE PARALEL TO JASON AND OTHERS BECUASE TODAY CONDITION IS NOT THE BEST,,BUT! IF YOU TAKE ALOOK AT DORIAN IT IS NIGHT AND DAY ,,DORIAN IS DRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY ,,PHIL HEATH IS NOT DRY ,,AND IT IS WRONG TO SAY HE DOESNT HOLD WATER BECAUSE HE HOLD WATER AND MORE IMPORTANTLY HE DOES HAVE OUNCE OF FAT THAT OUNCE OF FAT AND IT IS WAY MORE THAN OUNCE IS FROM WITHIN THE MUSCLE NOT BETWEEN SKIN AND MUSCLE BUT BETWEEN THE MUSCLE THAT ALSO WHAT PREVENET HIM FOR EVER BECOMING SUPERB CONDITION ,,HE TRIED TO TAKE THE COLMAN ROUTE WITH OUT THE COLMAN FREAKINESS,,AND THEN WHEN HE SAW HE IS NO RON COLMAN HE TRIED TO TAKE THE JASON ROUTE BUT WITH OUT THE JASON FOUNDATION OF SIZE!!!
read what i wrote here 300 times before responding this is importanto
3. yes he is seperated,, yes he show strations but if you notice it is mainly the glutes...not the lower back but the glutes! he has his lower lat not in the condition that create great champs,,muscle shape alone is not enough it has to be muscle shape and shreded condition that present both enough hardness and enough size,, phil heath doesnt have this hardness HIS MUSCLE ARE SOFT! ! ! THEY ARE SOFT RIPPED BTU SOFT! THEY SHOW STRAITIONS BECAUSE ANY MUSCLE THAT IS RIPPED AND DOESNT HAVE WATER BETWEEN MUSCLE AND SKIN WILL SHOW STRAITIONS,, HIS PROBLEM IS THAT THE WAY HE HOLD THE FAT IS NOT GONNA GIVE HIM THE DRY CONDITION CHAMPS ARE MADE OF,,RON COLMAN ....DORIAN YATES..FRANK ZANE,, HE IS JUST NOT THE LEVEL N OMATTER HOW MUCH SYNTETIC MUSCLE HE PACK ONTO THE FRAME...HE LACK THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE MUSCLE AND THEN HE OVER DID THE I N S U L I N A TOO EARLY AND USED WAY TOO MUCH GH WITH IT AND SIMPLY GOT INTO A POINT THAT FROM HERE THE ONLY THING HE CAN IMPORVE IS WHAT I CALL THE JASON CUTLER PHENOMENON AND IT IS BECOMING LARGER AND LARGER BUT NOT BIGGER ,,IT IS POSSIBLE TO BECOME LARGER AND NOT BIGGER...IT IS ,,YOU GAIN WEIGHT YOU BECOME THICKER...BUT THE MUSCLE WILL REMAIN SAME SIZE AS DIAMETER AND CONDITION WIL GET WORSEN ,,
AGAIN STRAITIONS CAN BE ON A 6% FELLA AND ON A 8% FELLA,,IT IS THE CONDITION OF THE OVER ALL PHYSIQE THAT COUNT HE LACK HARDNESS AND DRUNESS ....
DORIAN DEX...RON ALL HAD IT THIS FELLA DOES NOT HAVE IT AND WILL NEVER HAVE IT ,,WHY? HE WAS NOT READY TO PACK ON THE FAKE POUNDAGE AS OF YET,,I ALSO THINK HIS FRAME WILL NEVER LET HIM BE GREAT,,HE WILL ALWAYS BE THE SEAN RAY OF THE 20 10S BUT THE PROBLEM WE FACE IS NOW DAYS A BAD SEAN RAY IS ENOUGH TO WIN THE OLYMPIA ....AND IM NOT COMPARING HIM TO SEAN BECAUSE SEAN WAS MUCH BETTER BUT BAD SEAN RAY IS ENOUGH TO WIN O NOW DAY MY FRIENDS
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Phil like Jay will win the O when the top guy either steps down or comes in off. Right now there are no real freaks like years ago. Hell, 10 years ago we had a bunch of guys who if competed today would be dominating. If you look at the Nationals there's no real good bodybuilders up and coming. I think this is mainly cause when you think about it who in the Hell would want to compete today given the amount of drugs one must take. Also with MMA a lot of the young guys are finding this more of an attraction. The times they a changing.
I have to disagree with your last statement, the NPCs have been shitty far before MMA became popular, also MMA and bbing are diff, but yet have the same base---insecure, immature white males, that is the crowd that buys the mags, the supps, etc. This was stated before...with bbing, you have to have the genetic potential and the response to hormones, unfortunately, it seems that the genetic pool has either dried up, or drugs have taken over. Also, the Super Hvy class produces shitty quality, and then there is your boy, King Kamali, who should have never been 'given" a Pro card in the first place---
The NPCs are now rewarding shitty quality, which means the guys up on the Por stage are shitty, they are just flooding the Pros with less qualified people, thus brining the overall quality down.
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Very poor calvicles
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Try, tri again
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTQ-gQiaxQTazArT46_sr7s9-41cKdbN5uieI-ntmzop5T0jWF6)
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Try, tri again
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTQ-gQiaxQTazArT46_sr7s9-41cKdbN5uieI-ntmzop5T0jWF6)
How does he find the time to inject that much Synthol? It's a cool shot but it's also ridiculous.
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That looks like Valentino, that is so fucking atrocious.
surely you over exaggerate...nothing like oilman
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It doesn't look good. It looks fake. Like fake tits. Filled with something not natural. Sorry to talk ill of your idol. Nothing personal.
Similar pose (diff angle )...well, if you tell what's in his (Phil's) tris, even though they are striated, then you'd be a rich man...other than that, nothin personal
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQtS9LTvMasvf3EM1mx6oaKgmv2HlXyv_uj5ngu3AeF5ELTp2u9mQ)
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levrone is lightyears ahead of phil heath the butterman
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That looks like Valentino, that is so fucking atrocious.
Valentno wishes he looked like that.
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I think there in ONE THING that would make bodybuilding a lot better.
Mark people down for having obvioiusly sythol muscles. Make hardness and density a much higher priority.
End this madness of bloated synthol muscles. It looks fucking ridiculous.
You can fool a dipshit on the street with sythol muscles. But people who know about bodybuilding aren't gonna be fooled by that shit.
Hey Phil Heath. Stop using that sythol. You look like shit.
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If people on this thread have to compare Heath to Yates and other great bbs that says something to me. Maybe Heath will be one of the great bbs of our time? Narrow clavicles or not full muscle bellys like heaths are hard to come by these days...
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I think there in ONE THING that would make bodybuilding a lot better.
Mark people down for having obvioiusly sythol muscles. Make hardness and density a much higher priority.
End this madness of bloated synthol muscles. It looks fucking ridiculous.
You can fool a dipshit on the street with sythol muscles. But people who know about bodybuilding aren't gonna be fooled by that shit.
Hey Phil Heath. Stop using that sythol. You look like shit.
Shut the fuck up asshole.
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Valentno wishes he looked like that.
Valentino is in a MD video with Kev, and people were given Gregg props, for what? He is a clown....
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sorry missed seeing him; just arr in park city for spring snowboard weekend
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Shut the fuck up asshole.
He is an asshole, but he's right.
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As long as someone doesnt come up who can get in shape with a better structure, yeah... Heath is always going to be fighting his structural deficiancies, and like Disgusted has said, he gets into shape but hes never gotten really super shredded (always has that bloofy look and lacks separation especially in the delts, etc). This could be just his quality of muscle, insulin, whatever, but it keeps him from being awesome to really being insane.
Not to mention when he stands next to people, his weakness' really start to show.
Oh, rly?
(http://presentlifenutrition.com/bg_co1.jpg)
(https://ifbbtv.com/video3/images/3096.jpg)
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I think there in ONE THING that would make bodybuilding a lot better.
Mark people down for having obvioiusly sythol muscles. Make hardness and density a much higher priority.
End this madness of bloated synthol muscles. It looks fucking ridiculous.
You can fool a dipshit on the street with sythol muscles. But people who know about bodybuilding aren't gonna be fooled by that shit.
Hey Phil Heath. Stop using that sythol. You look like shit.
Yeah, marking guys down for "obvious" synthol use- welcome to bodybuilding 10 years ago.
Remember Ernie Taylor? Guy was an ABUSER of the shit and it was OBVIOUS he was using it and he never got marked down.
Come to think of it, synthol might have single handedly began the downward spiral we see today in IFBB bodybuilding.
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Oh, rly?
(http://presentlifenutrition.com/bg_co1.jpg)
(https://ifbbtv.com/video3/images/3096.jpg)
hahaha oh jeez... you can tell he has the frame of a little girl in this pic.
i think heath gets unduly harsh criticism, but it is true he, more often than not, looks like a tiny doll that's been waaaaaay overinflated.
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also just as experience,,i could take liar jamaican boy from this boarding and put him on the same level of drug and hormone usage heath is on ....and i can garentee you jamaican mesormorph kid within 6-12 months look bigger! wider! tighter! and over all more 90s like than phil heath ,,and i will use anything phil uses to show you phil heath genetic is NOT GREAT....it is his genetic respond to blow up which is good nto his genetics,,
again any time any day ,,same drug to the jamaican kid ,,meaning he will have to take what heath take nto what jamaican boy take now but multiples and gh insulina seo and i garentee you jamaicvan boy walk on stage top 10 o within first year! of training this way,,i would prove it to anyone just so you understand how NOT IMPRESSIVE heath is with regard to bodybuild in general,,
only in this fuckd up generation this count as anything,,this is BLOW UP DOLL nothing more nothign less
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Regardless of all what you have said against Phil Heath, he is the 2nd best bodybuilder in the world in now.
I used to to read and enjoy your comments, but not after seeing your supid comments against Phil. :-\
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Oh, rly?
(http://presentlifenutrition.com/bg_co1.jpg)
(https://ifbbtv.com/video3/images/3096.jpg)
Yes rly, his delts lack separation between the 3 heads, you cant even tell where one head ends and the other begins.
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Regardless of all what you have said against Phil Heath, he is the 2nd best bodybuilder in the world in now.
I used to to read and enjoy your comments, but not after seeing your supid comments against Phil. :-\
Shall I call the Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam bulance? Full Heath is a dope filled little person. Of course thats pretty much true of the majority of bodybuilders today. Sans (that means "without") his pharmacy, Full wouldn't be a threat to the cast of "The Terror of Tiny Town".
Its okay and normal to have some degree of hero worship, but first you need something heroic to admire. Full Heath is not heroic.
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oil or no oil it seems like the crowds like his look over others, this is a business, if some guy can generate more ticket sales or supp sales thats who gets the attention, what other pros think doesnt make no one any money and what people on this forum think def no one cares about.
So yes gh15 and other may be right, but this is a sport thats driven by cash and only cash at least for the backers behind shows and shows are backed by supp companies and supp companies make their cash by joe schmoe public buying their junk and joe schmoe public seems to like phil heath as the youtube videos of him training have the most views
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oil or no oil it seems like the crowds like his look over others, this is a business, if some guy can generate more ticket sales or supp sales thats who gets the attention, what other pros think doesnt make no one any money and what people on this forum think def no one cares about.
So yes gh15 and other may be right, but this is a sport thats driven by cash and only cash at least for the backers behind shows and shows are backed by supp companies and supp companies make their cash by joe schmoe public buying their junk and joe schmoe public seems to like phil heath as the youtube videos of him training have the most views
that is corect,, but! you cant comercialize bodybuild into some combo between seo and hormones,,the seo got to be subltle ,,we are very ashame of using it ,,it is nto real muscle,,and you cant do what those fellas doign like branch with the arms,,and heath with the arms,,it just not bodybuild,,
bodybuild shoudl alwys remain how steeve reeves,, sergio,,arnold ,,frank zane,, lee labrada ,,lee hainey ,,sean ray,,dorian yates and ron colman have made it ,,,HARD MUSCULE CONDITIONED AND SIZED PROPORTIONALY to whatever your individual genetic response to hormones is
you just can not look like phil heath and aks for olympia title,,but! as you can see jason cutler is mr o and he is just not up to par with any mr ol ,,he is just thick but he was never really mr o material not even with the condition he brought back in 2009 was it? he just doesnt have the the main thing mr o always has and always kept with him each and every one of the good mr o had a VERY VERY GOOD V TAPER WITH VERY VERY GOOD WAIST TO SHOUULDER RATIO,,jason cutler does not have it ,,phil heath HAD IT AND LOST IT,,he is a very very bad development of the era past cutler,,phil heath should never been on stage over 225lb not in his heaviest bestest day ,,
again it is what the judges want now day it is sad it may be impressive to the eye same as the 5'8 240 veiny hard bodybuild in your local gym is impressive to the eye with pipes as hamstrings,,,but in reality in actual pictures it doesnt flow,,it look bad,,and it brings this cult to a point where no one really wanna be a part of it so it will be very hard to sell it,,remember we need to attract more and more people inorder to survive at the end of the day .... adding a fitness male division cant work ,,it got to start with the bodybuild division and have more dexters taller dexters and reallly reward fellas like wolfe more and others...
the reason we dont have a big pool now day is because many got disgusted with bodybuild so they dont do it ,,there are still very good potentials out there..but they dont do it because of the loss of symetry ,,proportions,,conditioned size ,,v taper loss
and to all the fellas who say dorian didnt have v taper....he had amazing v taper he built everythign around his v taper,,ofcourse later on he got very thick and used lots of gh andalso insulin ,,but the v taper was always there always there,, from the foundation!
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Wtf is that thing?
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(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/Iceman1981photos/IMG_1.jpg)
for the people who say heath is in colemans league
not even arm wise