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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Palpatine Q on March 28, 2011, 10:45:35 PM
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We have a few jealous shitheads here that apparently feel so inferior that apparently, they would rather die than give someone credit for having Good development.
I can't imagine being such a butt-hurt, petty little turd that You try and shoot someone down when its obvious to everyone with a functional brain you are talking out of your ass.
That said...here are some different shots of my "fat, shapeless....AVERAGE " arms. ::) ::)
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good arms ,,as i said before plenty of time you are between 9-11% bodyfat depending on what you eat that day ...you look 12-13% due to water held in midsection ,,the fellas here gave you 15+ because they have no clue to how bodyfat look or what it is,,for them water bodyfat all same...
in general,, you are 9% after 2-3 weeks off testosterona or lower doses of testosterona,,you are in the single digit according to this pictures ,,water fucks you up some mainly in midsection and lower back
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Nice guns bro.
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who ever said this fella was 15% need to get out of bodybuild for good,,this fella is in the low doubles look due to water held and in singles already moment water drop,,this is lean phsyiqe
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good arms groink, what do they measure? 18.5 - 19 inches?
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Your arms are bigger than mine. Shit. They're bigger than my legs. You win. ;)
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good arms groink, what do they measure? 18.5 - 19 inches?
A little over 19.
here's a pic of my "nonexistent" pecs. Like I said I'm not Arnold but they are pretty thick.
Quality ain't the best....it was taken with my GF's phone.
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We have a few jealous shitheads here that apparently feel so inferior that apparently, they would rather die than give someone credit for having Good development.
I can't imagine being such a butt-hurt, petty little turd that You try and shoot someone down when its obvious to everyone with a functional brain you are talking out of your ass.
That said...here are some different shots of my "fat, shapeless....AVERAGE " arms. ::) ::)
You are right, that bicep is beyond the average, but still, you shouldn't be blind: Arm is more than just bicep, and you seem to have no forearm muscles what so ever. It really is amazing how one can train such a big upper arm and same time own those bread stick forearms. What that does is it makes you look average amateur blockhead without any sense of muscle balance, so after all it is your own fault if people see you as average. You know the symptoms, big chest, shoulders, and upper arm, no forearms and legs at all = bench and bicep curls, nothing more ;D
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ahahahahahah nothing like starting a thread to post pics of your 'arm' to show how far people arent in your head.
18" arm, 10" forearms. :D
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ahahahahahah nothing like starting a thread to post pics of your 'arm' to show how far people arent in your head.
And when you follow me around like a lost puppy...what do we call that "Sparky" ?? ;)
When you are half my size .......then you can say something
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And when you follow me around like a lost puppy...what do we call that "Sparky" ?? ;)
When you are half my size .......then you can say something
what do you do for your forearms?
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Groink's arms do look great.
He's got some weak points like forearms and lower pecs. But overall he's a good bodybuilder.
Not as good as me though.
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what do you do for your forearms?
what do you do for yours? ?
any other questions? 8)
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A little over 19.
here's a pic of my "nonexistent" pecs. Like I said I'm not Arnold but they are pretty thick.
Quality ain't the best....it was taken with my GF's phone.
why not post up that pic of you in the blue shorts that shows off your massive chest developement?
im sure that one wasnt taken with your gf's phone. ahahahahahahaha
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why not post up that pic of you in the blue shorts that shows off your massive chest developement?
im sure that one wasnt taken with your gf's phone. ahahahahahahaha
Didn't they post pics of you?
Aren't you that guy with a big head and frog lips? Skinny fat, but shaved and oiled up anyway.
You have no room to talk shit about others. You look like shit.
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what do you do for yours? ?
any other questions? 8)
lol what are you showing us there 'groink'? is that supposed to be impressive? i really cant tell- let us know, ok?
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Didn't they post pics of you?
Aren't you that guy with a big head and frog lips? Skinny fat, but shaved and oiled up anyway.
You have no room to talk shit about others. You look like shit.
hey stupid- you have no clue what i look like, so kindly fuck off, fagg0t.
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why not post up that pic of you in the blue shorts that shows off your massive chest developement?
im sure that one wasnt taken with your gf's phone. ahahahahahahaha
this is me last week. 20 lbs lighter than that
You sure have a lot to say for a picless troll
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A little over 19.
here's a pic of my "nonexistent" pecs. Like I said I'm not Arnold but they are pretty thick.
Quality ain't the best....it was taken with my GF's phone.
very weak pecs ,,as said before,, i dont need to see pictures for that ,,i see it from one pic and its enough ,,the pecs are just very flat,,they lack thickness,,they lack fulness,,they lack the roundness that in return later on when going under 8% will get you into the squarey zone because you will have enough meat to play with ,,in your case it will look odd ,,you will have pecs ofcourse but they will look flat and hard more like a bad version of even centarfoony ,,even chest is much better ,,arms very good ,,delts very good,,traps very good,, hardness is there and density is there but chest is not there,,probably because the damn arm took all the work from the chest all the years....
i told before either bodybuild has good arms or good chest,,moment he has both he become professional well today you can become profesional with out it but back when bodybuild was bodybuild lol,,
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hey stupid- you have no clue what i look like, so kindly fuck off, fagg0t.
I saw what you look like. You look like fucking shit.
Am I wrong? You aren't posting a picture to prove me wrong so I must be right.
Even I look a LOT better than you. Cunnt.
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this is me last week. 20 lbs lighter than that
You sure have a lot to say for a picless troll
its just a matter of time before someone posts that pic. i can wait. then i'll laugh. like i am now, 'arm don'.
whats it like being your own biggest fan?
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this is me last week. 20 lbs lighter than that
You sure have a lot to say for a picless troll
told you before you will be 200-210lb on stage and very good physiqe,, forarms look good too,,not big but lean and thick enough for the muscle presented,, this is very nice hormonized look ,,lots of potential but just too old in the age department thats the problem ,,if you were 25....you could have gone places
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I saw what you look like. You look like fucking shit.
Am I wrong? You aren't posting a picture to prove me wrong so I must be right.
Even I look a LOT better than you. Cunnt.
you bore me.
this the best you can do?
dildo.
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And when you follow me around like a lost puppy...what do we call that "Sparky" ?? ;)
When you are half my size .......then you can say something
Oh great. Now we have to be half your size to say anything? No worries, I think I qualify. Five feet tall and aboot 110 pounds. Is that close enough. ;D Later kid. ;)
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lol what are you showing us there 'groink'? is that supposed to be impressive? i really cant tell- let us know, ok?
Lets see yours you "beast" ::)
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told you before you will be 200-210lb on stage and very good physiqe,, forarms look good too,,not big but lean and thick enough for the muscle presented,, this is very nice hormonized look ,,lots of potential but just too old in the age department thats the problem ,,if you were 25....you could have gone places
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hormonized?
hes clean.
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Lets see yours you "beast" ::)
no chance, sweetheart.
i cant compete with those 10" MONSTERS.
ahahahahahahahahaha
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you bore me.
this the best you can do?
dildo.
Well, I could fly out to Canada to beat your ass.
But you would just pussy out like a bitch. Just like you did with Alex23.
Anyway. Where's your pic? You're always in here talking shit, it's only proper that you should post your picture too.
Why aren't you posting it? Because you are one of those guys like FatPanda or Pumpster, looks like total shit, but loves to talk like an expert.
Tell your Mom she better swallow my cum next time. And tell her to wash her dirty stinking pussy next time she visits me.
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who ever said this fella was 15% need to get out of bodybuild for good,,this fella is in the low doubles look due to water held and in singles already moment water drop,,this is lean phsyiqe
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Your stupid and silly posts are still coming in a continuous basis!
How the hell can you judge someone’s body fat percentage by looking at his fucking arms only..?!!
I think if there is anyone should get out of “bodybuild” for good, it is YOU!
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very weak pecs ,,as said before,, i dont need to see pictures for that ,,i see it from one pic and its enough ,,the pecs are just very flat,,they lack thickness,,they lack fulness,,they lack the roundness that in return later on when going under 8% will get you into the squarey zone because you will have enough meat to play with ,,in your case it will look odd ,,you will have pecs ofcourse but they will look flat and hard more like a bad version of even centarfoony ,,even chest is much better ,,arms very good ,,delts very good,,traps very good,, hardness is there and density is there but chest is not there,,probably because the damn arm took all the work from the chest all the years....
i told before either bodybuild has good arms or good chest,,moment he has both he become professional well today you can become profesional with out it but back when bodybuild was bodybuild lol,,
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I have weak pecs too God. Why didnt you gave me good pec genetics? >:(
What would you recommend as far as training to improve them? I have the Lee priest syndrome, I have narrow pecs and they only look good when pumped.
I try to hit inclines as hard as i can. about 2 plates each side for 4-5. Im not that strong i know.
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no chance, sweetheart.
i cant compete with those 10" MONSTERS.
ahahahahahahahahaha
Shocking...the bigmouth asshole wont post a pic even though he claims to be the biggest, leanest person on the board .
You'll have to pardon us If we don't take your word for it. 8)....the last anonymous turd that talked this much shit about my build was Pumpster :D
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I have weak pecs too God. Why didnt you gave me good pec genetics? >:(
What would you recommend as far as training to improve them? I have the Lee priest syndrome, I have narrow pecs and they only look good when pumped.
I try to hit inclines as hard as i can. about 2 plates each side for 4-5. Im not that strong i know.
well,, i showe my wife your pictures when i check getbig in the morning because i was responding to your posting,,and iasked her what she think about this youg stud,,she said ...his chest is big lol ,,it was the way you took the pic side chest,,i expected her to comliment yor arms she complimented your chest...so you are ok ;)
but serious now,,yes your chest is also worse than arms,,your arms are detailed chest um more of a puffed look ,,in your case it mater of few percent of bodyfat since you got competitor level physiqe and moment you bring it from 10-11 down to 8 your arms will be so detailed ,,chest will be much better,,and over all the leaness and ripness to follow will be > than the lack of chest,,
still you can work the chest with lots of incline work and make sure you dont work the arms because for 175 lb fella or 180 how ever you were...your arms are very very good,,they revel 200lb fellas arms thaty compete!
good luck
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Your stupid and silly posts are still coming in a continuous basis!
How the hell can you judge someone’s body fat percentage by looking at his fucking arms only..?!!
I think if there is anyone should get out of “bodybuild” for good, it is YOU!
Azooz Approved!
azoozi,, leave your arab shit home ok ? i dont do mistakes ,,thats what i do for living ,,no mistake when i say something about bodybuild thats what i make my livign of thats how i made my living off for many many years,,
i can tell bodyfat from one single pic with your shirt on! i know the diff betwen water and fat ,,i know what loose skin mean and look like,,i knowe what baby fat mean ,,i can tell you in weeks to the day how long it take you to get down to mid singles,,i can tell you doses and product needed to use in your specific situation ,,i can tlel you alot only from few pictures sometimes from one pic,,
everything i put is followed for a reason ,,its because it is THE TRUTH ,,
i speak the truth for many years,,and shall continue to do so,,and if you wanna grow some muscle on your 150lb body you should start follow that truth insted of worshiping whatever drug addict you chose to in this week...
kapeesh?
good
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Just remain in harmony, grasshopper.....
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well,, i showe my wife your pictures when i check getbig in the morning because i was responding to your posting,,and iasked her what she think about this youg stud,,she said ...his chest is big lol ,,it was the way you took the pic side chest,,i expected her to comliment yor arms she complimented your chest...so you are ok ;)
but serious now,,yes your chest is also worse than arms,,your arms are detailed chest um more of a puffed look ,,in your case it mater of few percent of bodyfat since you got competitor level physiqe and moment you bring it from 10-11 down to 8 your arms will be so detailed ,,chest will be much better,,and over all the leaness and ripness to follow will be > than the lack of chest,,
still you can work the chest with lots of incline work and make sure you dont work the arms because for 175 lb fella or 180 how ever you were...your arms are very very good,,they revel 200lb fellas arms thaty compete!
good luck
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:o :o
Thanks. ;D
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Im gonna hit the inclines harder god, thanks,. 8)
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what do you do for yours? ?
any other questions? 8)
Just what I think you have done, you have wear out your forearms by trying to get size on your bicep. No worry, they grow back when you learn how to train properly, but it may take years...
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:o :o
Thanks. ;D
Never saw your pic Mezo
I'm said my back pics for last. ...better than my arms 8)
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Just what I think you have done, you have wear out your forearms by trying to get size on your bicep. No worry, they grow back when you learn how to train properly, but it may take years...
OK. "Ropo" ::)
thanks for the tip ::) ::)
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Never saw your pic Mezo
I'm said my back pics for last. ...better than my arms 8)
Arms looking good there. Youre not that fat imo...I will snap a few pics of my arms in 2-3 days when i have my arm workout and post them..lol
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he is far from fat,, he is lean ,,infact im surprized he didnt compete,,very good physiqe aside from chest even the chest has some density the body is hard and dense,,it is 200lb in condition on stage for 5'11 or 6 feet its light heavy weight class ,,can maybe even make 205-210 on stage in the heavy clases ,,this is good phsyiqe
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Shocking...the bigmouth asshole wont post a pic even though he claims to be the biggest, leanest person on the board .
You'll have to pardon us If we don't take your word for it. 8)....the last anonymous turd that talked this much shit about my build was Pumpster :D
no groink, actually you think your the biggest and leanest person on this board- isnt that true, self proclaimed 'arm don'. ::) in fact you think your better than everyone else. all the while claiming to be clean when anyone can tell just by looking at you at you're running 1g of test a week alone.
so I won't apologize for hurting your feelings. maybe if your were a little more truthful and a little more modest you'd be a little more respected- but not by me of course.
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gh15 your input regarding the estimated BF level would be very appreciated, thanks
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he is far from fat,, he is lean ,,infact im surprized he didnt compete,,very good physiqe aside from chest even the chest has some density the body is hard and dense,,it is 200lb in condition on stage for 5'11 or 6 feet its light heavy weight class ,,can maybe even make 205-210 on stage in the heavy clases ,,this is good phsyiqe
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What im trying to do right now that im back on is to get lean while growing some of the lost muscle..so basically im "dieting" without cardio and without being too strict on the diet (few cheats here and there). is about 230 protein 180 carbs too little for me? is it possible to grow on restricted cals?
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Big, not fat.
Spike, Goudy and Hazbin also carry great size.
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gh15 your input regarding the estimated BF level would be very appreciated, thanks
you are stage ready lol,,few lbs of water and you are there,,infact soem competitors walk on stage like this!
5-6% with freaky bicep shape,,pretty good,,you are very close to 4-4.5,,matter of tune up and diuretic
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was his physique built on test tren mast eq npp ???
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What im trying to do right now that im back on is to get lean while growing some of the lost muscle..so basically im "dieting" without cardio and without being too strict on the diet (few cheats here and there). is about 230 protein 180 carbs too little for me? is it possible to grow on restricted cals?
trenbolona ace and gh will do it with stricted calorie but it wont be major growth if doses are low... 100-150mg trenbolona daily gh 6 iu a day shoudl grow you aka lean you while nto losing even 1/10 of lb of lean muscle ,,you will not end up higher weight but you wil end up BIGGER SIZE due to lower bodyfat ,,sculpted look ,,very tight midsection ,,high definition ,,and more lean muscle...
all that counts is how much lean muscle you have on your frame,,fat and water doesnt = size people dont learn it or learn it too late
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was his physique built on test tren mast eq npp ???
he is not big ....he is in condition which make him appear bigger than he is ,,any shreded fella in condition especiaqlly 6 % and under look much bigger in pictures and also to the eye when body is shown ,,he has thickness enough to go along with the condition of the muscle he present,,
physiqe can be built on many things....espcialy the younger you are,,
but! trenbolona ,,gh,,testosterona,,masterona ,,they are the culprit of high quality physiqe,,
remember the most important thing in a physiqe is its quality ,,only then you can add quality size to it inorder to bring it up a notch....
you take this fella and put him next to 250lb fella in gym and he wipe the windows with him ,,this fella can wipe the floor with lifters 60-70lb bigger than him that are in double digits....as simple as that
ofcourse you have to have enough size to go along with condition and this fella has it ,,he is not big but he has enough size for the level he present,,need more thickness and fulness inorder to do real damage
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no groink, actually you think your the biggest and leanest person on this board- isnt that true, self proclaimed 'arm don'. ::) in fact you think your better than everyone else. all the while claiming to be clean when anyone can tell just by looking at you at you're running 1g of test a week alone.
so I won't apologize for hurting your feelings. maybe if your were a little more truthful and a little more modest you'd be a little more respected- but not by me of course.
So that's a no on the pics then? :D
You are a bigmouth, asshole Troll. ...you seem to think you carry some "weight" around here. ..but You are nothing more than that. The proof is in the pudding....
Internet cliches like "I hurt your feelings" .."I'm in your head".."You have no life"......CHECK.
Threatens to beat people up IRL. .....CHECK.
Claims to be a huge, ripped monster. Additionally, attempts to be an "authority " on steroids and training....Yet refuses to post a single picture to back up these rather lofty claims on a bodybuilding site.......CHECK
Textbook....boring, predictable Troll.
PS your opinion or "respect" means Jack shit to me....you are a Dildo who pretends to be something he's not online.....who cares what You think
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All right.. Groinks arms are really good. But lets cut to the chase and start critiquing some serious glute pics.
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gh15 is right, i was only around 210 pounds(standing at 6'2'') in the pics, it's all about the illusion
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azoozi,, leave your arab shit home ok ? i dont do mistakes ,,thats what i do for living ,,no mistake when i say something about bodybuild thats what i make my livign of thats how i made my living off for many many years,,
i can tell bodyfat from one single pic with your shirt on! i know the diff betwen water and fat ,,i know what loose skin mean and look like,,i knowe what baby fat mean ,,i can tell you in weeks to the day how long it take you to get down to mid singles,,i can tell you doses and product needed to use in your specific situation ,,i can tlel you alot only from few pictures sometimes from one pic,,
everything i put is followed for a reason ,,its because it is THE TRUTH ,,
i speak the truth for many years,,and shall continue to do so,,and if you wanna grow some muscle on your 150lb body you should start follow that truth insted of worshiping whatever drug addict you chose to in this week...
kapeesh?
good
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Your response made feel like being in cinema and watching Indian Action Movie. Lol!!
If you are that genius and have that amazing super abilities that let you know about everything in “bodybuild” World by just looking at pictures. Then, I think you should have become a Nuclear Professor instead of former “bodybuild” competitor! :D
Japan could have shown you some pictures of their area to let them know about their disaster before it even started.
You are really funny and please keep on you stupid and funny comment :D
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gh15 is right, i was only around 210 pounds(standing at 6'2'') in the pics, it's all about the illusion
Share with us your diet, training maybe drugs..looking good. 8)
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gh15 is right, i was only around 210 pounds(standing at 6'2'') in the pics, it's all about the illusion
Have you ever competed? Very impressive. I'm about your height, well I use to be, I lost about a half inch due to a compressed disc. If I could have ever gotten up to 210 at your condition I would have consider myself done and complete. No need to have gone further. I'm sure that if I knew what I know now from reading the bible 25 years ago I maybe could have done it.
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Have you ever competed? Very impressive. I'm about your height, well I use to be, I lost about a half inch due to a compressed disc. If I could have ever gotten up to 210 at your condition I would have consider myself done and complete. No need to have gone further. I'm sure that if I knew what I know now from reading the bible 25 years ago I maybe could have done it.
Yup.. ..guy looks incredible
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Have you ever competed? Very impressive. I'm about your height, well I use to be, I lost about a half inch due to a compressed disc. If I could have ever gotten up to 210 at your condition I would have consider myself done and complete. No need to have gone further. I'm sure that if I knew what I know now from reading the bible 25 years ago I maybe could have done it.
no never competed and don't intend to,actually, when i started reading gh15's posts i kinda' got repulsed by the whole industry........was once 245 pounds but didn't feel good at all...........planning on staying around 210-220 while keeping my BF level low
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So that's a no on the pics then? :D
You are a bigmouth, asshole Troll. ...you seem to think you carry some "weight" around here. ..but You are nothing more than that. The proof is in the pudding....
Internet cliches like "I hurt your feelings" .."I'm in your head".."You have no life"......CHECK.
Threatens to beat people up IRL. .....CHECK.
Claims to be a huge, ripped monster. Additionally, attempts to be an "authority " on steroids and training....Yet refuses to post a single picture.......CHECK
Textbook....boring, predictable Troll.
PS your opinion or "respect" means Jack shit to me....you are a Dildo who pretends to be something he's not online.....who cares what You think
ahahahahahahahaha you care so little what i think you took the time to dedicate this pain fueled teary eyed meltdown to me. is your keyboard still in one piece 'groink'?
this post is prolly the biggest meltdown i have illicited from anyone to date- you've even managed to out cry 'simply stooge'.
listen hun, dont get all hurt and angry. its not healthy.
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ahahahahahahahaha you care so little what i think you took the time to dedicate this pain fueled teary eyed meltdown to me. is your keyboard still in one piece 'groink'?
this post is prolly the biggest meltdown i have illicited from anyone to date- you've even managed to out cry 'simply stooge'.
listen hun, dont get all hurt and angry. its not healthy.
Whenever someone replies to your post its a "meltdown" and they are "smashing their keyboard".........CHECK
LOLOL...thanks for proving my point for me you moron :D
PS......Making sure you begin or end your posts with "Ahahahahahahahaaaaa" ....So we all know "you don't care"....CHECK
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Yup.. ..guy looks incredible
You should have given the stage a shot. You have the right proportions and the genetic gifts.
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no never competed and don't intend to,actually, when i started reading gh15's posts i kinda' got repulsed by the whole industry........was once 245 pounds but didn't feel good at all...........planning on staying around 210-220 while keeping my BF level low
I think pro IFBB level is too much sacrifice and too big a price to pay. But just for fun and to keep the fire going in your training doing State shows isn't so bad. Even NPC levels you don't have to kill yourself and be 275 lbs which is probably the minimum at your height.
Here in Hawaii if you win the Paradise cup or the Sting Ray classic you become something of a local celeb. That's how Brandy Leaver (sp?) got noticed here and got a contract with Weider. It can be fun if you don't take it too seriously and don't let it go to your head. I don't think Faildo (sp?) is going to win any pro shows ever but he's a big shot here in the islands for those in the game. Shavis Higa is another one that turn pro but you'll never hear about. I've met Shavis a few times and he's a good guy. Works as an electrician and trains after work. Just seems to do it for the fun of it. It's not easy working full time and being a competitive bodybuilder.
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Groink looking leaner and better. Mezo always looks in shape. Kreator looks stage ready minus diuretics.
It's al about the illusion you can create.
I am getting in shape as well. Stay tuned!
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I am getting in shape as well. Stay tuned!
Me too. I'm going to be SuperDuper lean.
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All right.. Groinks arms are really good. But lets cut to the chase and start critiquing some serious glute pics.
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Why are people dissing this guy?? He looks pretty damn big for being clean. And thick deep pecs are genetics and drugs, don't see why everyone's ragging on him for something thats common knowledge. Its extremely hard if not impossible to overcome genetic flaws without drugs. And 99% of people on here couldn't look like him even WITH hormones. Nothing but pathetic pieces of shit haters on here..
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Look good Groink, everything was in very good condition anyway but you needed to get the stomach down a bit, looks like you have.
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Me too. I'm going to be SuperDuper lean.
can u paint me when I am done? ;D
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That said...here are some different shots of my "fat, shapeless....AVERAGE " arms. ::) ::)
They're not average, but they are shapeless and smooth (at least in those first two pics). You can't exactly use your arm as an anatomy chart
Diet down and they'd look much better
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Why are people dissing this guy?? He looks pretty damn big for being clean. And thick deep pecs are genetics and drugs, don't see why everyone's ragging on him for something thats common knowledge. Its extremely hard if not impossible to overcome genetic flaws without drugs. And 99% of people on here couldn't look like him even WITH hormones. Nothing but pathetic pieces of shit haters on here..
If someone posts a "look at me, arent i great" thread of their physique, they get feedback. Even guys in great shape on stage get critiqued.
Is he entering mr getbig? He'd place last in this condition
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If someone posts a "look at me, arent i great" thread of their physique, they get feedback. Even guys in great shape on stage get critiqued.
Is he entering mr getbig? He'd place last in this condition
did groink make u cry in the past? or are u legally blind?
groink has some of the best genetics on getbig including myself
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can u paint me when I am done? ;D
Perhaps.
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If someone posts a "look at me, arent i great" thread of their physique, they get feedback. Even guys in great shape on stage get critiqued.
Is he entering mr getbig? He'd place last in this condition
Yes, he is begging for attention but thats why we work out in the first place. And what do you expect from a clean lifter like him? And who says having thick powerful looking arms isn't a good thing?? I'm not defending the guy but theres really nothing bad you can say about those arms since he looks to be a clean lifter to me. Any other natty or clean lifters on here with arms like that?
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did groink make u cry in the past? or are u legally blind?
groink has some of the best genetics on getbig including myself
So you don't think he would place last? Is he entering the Mr Getbig contest? Adonis looked far better, and he was something like 30kg lighter.
Groink would look good at a lower bodyfat. But, like Alex23, he seems preoccupied in how much he weighs (or how big his arm is) rather than how he looks. Instead of keeping this stuff all hypothetical, they should get into shape and then post some proper physique pics.
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I'm not defending the guy but theres really nothing bad you can say about those arms since he looks to be a clean lifter to me.
How about that his forearm is far too small compared to his upper arm? That's one of the basic ways to judge someones arm.
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How about that his forearm is far too small compared to his upper arm? That's one of the basic ways to judge someones arm.
Yeah but hes clean. Don't forget your judging a drug free lifter.
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Yeah but hes clean. Don't forget your judging a drug free lifter.
So? Proportions still matter
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OK, for all ya' haters! Here is me... And sorry, just don't want to reveal my real identity :D
(http://i53.tinypic.com/wu30cw.jpg)
People always say I should compete in local novice division... well, who knows... I might give it a try at some point
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I tried enetering Mr Getcock and got banned both times. I was even stupid enough to diet clean for it lol
they would not accept me or groink as we would look like real bodybuilders instead of the paraplegics that entered in the past
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Looking good Groink!
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OK, for all ya' haters! Here is me... And sorry, just don't want to reveal my real identity :D
(http://i53.tinypic.com/wu30cw.jpg)
People always say I should compete in local novice division... well, who knows... I might give it a try at some point
Damm. That's even better contest condition than Jay Cutler.
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Groink is looking more ripped than ever and still got the size on him. If he is really a natural, mad, MAD props.
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Groink is looking more ripped than ever and still got the size on him. If he is really a natural, mad. MAD props.
Wouldn't be surprised if he is natural, might have used AAS before but if he did it wasn't for a long time. Looks like hard work to me!
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Nice work, Groink.
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Groink,big as usual.also kreator looks great and I saw a pic of Meso,looks good.
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Would kick a homeless man to death for those upper arms!!!
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Like that Adrain thread. Groink puts up a couple of pics and everyone turns into an 8-year old at a birthday party.
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I got this pic from www.fagswhoneverwere.com
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Looks like one of those fellows who takes softball very seriously.
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(http://img.interia.pl/wiadomosci/nimg/Kulturyste_zatrzymalo_CBS_1162341.jpg)
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Looks like one of those fellows who takes softball very seriously.
Good arm extension, balance, no release on the top hand, and softball farmer's tan. Nothing wrong with this at all. Probably hit it well.
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good physique, too bad all those hormonas are triggering the neanderthal genes in his face big time as well.
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decent arms, but not the biggest or best on this board
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decent arms, but not the biggest or best on this board
and thats when the precious im natural card comes into play ;D
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If someone posts a "look at me, arent i great" thread of their physique, they get feedback. Even guys in great shape on stage get critiqued.
Is he entering mr getbig? He'd place last in this condition
Really...post up some shots of guys that have entered. ....lets compare shall we?
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and thats when the precious im natural card comes into play ;D
whos natural? groink? hes admitted to usage ???
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what do you do for yours? ?
any other questions? 8)
you have good hormonized,,look you are beyond average you need to up the dose to step on stage,,right now with what hormones you have you can step on stage at 200lbs at 5'11",,but your old at 24 you could of done a lot more,,,like jayson cutler turn pro,,,your BF is about 9% or less with some water you can look lower,,,,
I THINK I SAID THIS ALREADY I DONT REMEMBER,,,WIFE BOTHERS ME TOO MUCH IN MORNINGS RIGHT NOW YOU KNOW ARIZONA TIME WE DONT CHANGE TIMES,,,,,
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whos natural? groink? hes admitted to usage ???
Never......not once.
here's the thing......ifs guys like ME that look inhuman look like freaks geared up...and pretty good otherwise.
never said I was the biggest or best here......but NATTY. ..I'm way way up there.
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you have good hormonized,,look you are beyond average you need to up the dose to step on stage,,right now with what hormones you have you can step on stage at 200lbs at 5'11",,but your old at 24 you could of done a lot more,,,like jayson cutler turn pro,,,your BF is about 9% or less with some water you can look lower,,,,
I THINK I SAID THIS ALREADY I DONT REMEMBER,,,WIFE BOTHERS ME TOO MUCH IN MORNINGS RIGHT NOW YOU KNOW ARIZONA TIME WE DONT CHANGE TIMES,,,,,
I'm in AZ...Where are you located ? Scottsdale here
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what does it matter is someone is natural or not, it doesnt really entitle you to anything, its not like your keeping an amateur status for the olympics or anything
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This is a good pose for you... second only to your Front Double Bi.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=371100.0;attach=407944;image)
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what does it matter is someone is natural or not, it doesnt really entitle you to anything, its not like your keeping an amateur status for the olympics or anything
Thats ridiculous...comparing Natural and geared up is liking comparing a showroom car to an F1 car
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This is a good pose for you... second only to your Front Double Bi.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=371100.0;attach=407944;image)
true, and the veiny traps and delts/chest gives even more thickness to the package.
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Looks like one of those fellows who takes softball very seriously.
A few of us posters play 8)
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A few of us posters play 8)
Got myself a new f4 for the coming season. Can't wait to start popping them up. :-\ ;D
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Quality ain't the best....it was taken with my GF's phone.
(http://zedomax.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/camera-phone.jpg)
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LOl
hahaha
tell that`s not you ...
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Looks like one of those fellows who takes softball very seriously.
Yeah. .....because having a hobby and being good at it is for assholes. ::)
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Got myself a new f4 for the coming season. Can't wait to start popping them up. :-\ ;D
Our league supplies the bats.they are dead by the end of the season :-\
....good thing I had just bought a brand new Easton the year before >:(
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lol boris kleine, wonder how much muscles he lost when he was in jail. saw some new pics of him on his facebooks looks like a freak again
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remember coach the CLOWN,,,FELLA CLAIMS NATURA ::)
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lol boris kleine, wonder how much muscles he lost when he was in jail. saw some new pics of him on his facebooks looks like a freak again
i saw an interview with him somewhere a while back and he looked small
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Coach has a kick ass build. A solid getbigger. I hope to match his shape at his age. Props.
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Looking real good Joe!
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You are nt bad yourself wes for a geezer ;D
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looks like one of those cave creatures from LOTR
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yeesh, what's with all the yap yap yapping
Groink looks great as always
Kreator looks good
2 different looks
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Tito .. that guy posts here .. he is a top amateur ... post some pics loon .. don't be shy :)
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Tito .. that guy posts here .. he is a top amateur ... post some pics loon .. don't be shy :)
yup LOON is a pretty big dude Sev
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bigger bulge than me.
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bigger bulge than me.
I can't decide which of you I feel worse for.
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Groink is a fucking beast. Period.
The guys that cry "roids" crack me up. He looks fantastic even if he is geared up, which I don't believe he is.
I know MANY juiced up guys who don't look anywhere close to that good. Groink was just cut out to be a big guy.
Keep doing exactly what you're doing Groink, it's clearly working.
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remember coach the CLOWN,,,FELLA CLAIMS NATURA ::)
You better go back look over any of my posts jocko....I've never claimed to be natural. I said I off for over 3 years after that show. Get your facts straight clown and I wasn't on whole hell of a lot for that show.
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rich mans JNN ;D
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rich mans straight JNN ;D
fixed
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You better go back look over any of my posts jocko....I've never claimed to be natural. I said I off for over 3 years after that show. Get your facts straight clown and I wasn't on whole hell of a lot for that show.
I think he was referring to Groink, not yourself.
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I think he was referring to Groink, not yourself.
He posted that under my picture.
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yeesh, what's with all the yap yap yapping
Groink looks great as always
Kreator looks good
2 different looks
thats where you confuse it missy,, kreator can walk into any npc show and win first place and over all quite easily,, he got one of bext upper bod on the getbig board,,groink can go into competition and dont know how he will place,,
both are hormonized,, kreator with out shame put it all out,,was true abotu it ,,groink is not,,the level of thicknes of groink is beyond anything natural can ever get in the level of bodyfat presented,,he got the all americano dealer look ,,you know what this look is? it is the look of the local dealer who get into gym with the gym bag full of goodies circa 2003....and sell laurabolin for 150dolaros to kidos around...he got this EXACT LOOK ,,they are always stuck at 230-240lb on hormones.. compete at 190... and sometime blow up on slin to 250... they alwys around 8-14% bodyfat,,,they always tell everyone they are 12...even when they are 8% because they got fat from within the muscle mainly and the water thickness from hormonal usage on regular basis,,
groink is PRIME example of a fella that been to hormones for many many years,,he is prime example of someone who got the type of physiqe that creams hormones,,he is also prime example of someone who would use testosterona suspension just to see how it blow him up...
his changes can be dramatic because! only hormone changes can be dramatic,,he lose very little muscle because! only hormone changes can keep most if not all muscle on you while losing water and fat,,
there is no ifs or buts,,there is no someone clean ,, natural was long long gone but this is far from clean ,,this is hormonized on EVERY DAY BASIS ,,every week if longer esters which is common with the dealer look i wias talking about,,
those specific looks alway look worse than kreator on stage because what you see on kreator is LEAN MUSCLE 99.5% LEAN MUSCLE,,on groinhk he would have to get down in weight to the 200lb zone inorder to show something that resemble kreator and even then ....he wont be as shreded ,,for that driness he will have to be 190-195...,,it will be equivalent to kreator height wize proportions even little bigger due to heigh difference but still not as dy ,,the kreator fella got thin skin geneticaly and will look always better due to his skin type...only way to look better than him is getting to same bodyfat as him and be paralel to him in weight/size/height ratio ...7lb per inch
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You are nt bad yourself wes for a geezer ;D
Thank you my Transylvanian brother! ;D
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Groink is a fucking beast. Period.
The guys that cry "roids" crack me up. He looks fantastic even if he is geared up, which I don't believe he is.
I know MANY juiced up guys who don't look anywhere close to that good. Groink was just cut out to be a big guy.
Keep doing exactly what you're doing Groink, it's clearly working.
he looks good and he is geared up,,nothign wrong with that ,,when you are almost 50 you better look good if you are ghreared up for many years,,if not then bodybuild is not for you my friend,,
the problem with those individuals is ...they never go on stage ,,why? because deep inside they are not ready to be 190lb on stage,,they dont understand that 190lb IS HUGE on stage if in great condition ,,if you have the thickness and density ,,you can make 190lb look kamazing on stage even at 5'11....bodybuild is in the quality friends,,
how many time you see the 250lb amatuer that walk around 8% in gym then go on stage 204 5% and look like absolit shit? because he use insulin too much and just doesnt have symetry ,,all gut ,,all disproportions ,,cant even get into great condition ....SO MANY EXAMPLES OF THE SUCH ,, and they all walk around 250lb on the every day world all get looks,,,it means absolitly nothing ,,only thing that count is quality on stag eand quality outside stage,,
if you can not present to me 30-32 inch waist when you are 210lb 5'10! then you are not good enough ,,the end
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We have a few jealous shitheads here that apparently feel so inferior that apparently, they would rather die than give someone credit for having Good development.
I can't imagine being such a butt-hurt, petty little turd that You try and shoot someone down when its obvious to everyone with a functional brain you are talking out of your ass.
That said...here are some different shots of my "fat, shapeless....AVERAGE " arms. ::) ::)
Looking huge, G-Man. Dozens of egos were smashed with this thread. 8)
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I wouldn't be surprised if Groink has used steroids for more than 20 years. Don't know when he started training but anyway I think he's a very long time steroid user. It's very strange to me why some build online characters like this, especially at his age. Whatever the reason, it's the same as in Alex's case. Americano liar syndrome? :D
If Alex continues prepping for the show at least for a while, a show he won't do, you'll see there's no dramatic change in muscle size. Why? Because of already being a long term drug user. Groink couldn't even admit he's trying out some HRT now as nothing would happen.
Natural liars beasts.
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The Groinkster is anal raping all the juiceheads and haters. He has build some stellar arms to be a true Don and all natural. A liftime of hard work, good genes and dedication.
Sad for some to be so quick to claim steroids to deride work they cannot achieve even with them.
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Americano liar syndrome? :D
Alex23 is a Quebecer I think.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Groink has used steroids for more than 20 years. Don't know when he started training but anyway I think he's a very long time steroid user. It's very strange to me why some build online characters like this, especially at his age. Whatever the reason, it's the same as in Alex's case. Americano liar syndrome? :D
If Alex continues prepping for the show at least for a while, a show he won't do, you'll see there's no dramatic change in muscle size. Why? Because of already being a long term drug user. Groink couldn't even admit he's trying out some HRT now as nothing would happen.
Natural liars beasts.
I didn't lie, I'm pretty up front.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Groink has used steroids for more than 20 years. Don't know when he started training but anyway I think he's a very long time steroid user. It's very strange to me why some build online characters like this, especially at his age. Whatever the reason, it's the same as in Alex's case. Americano liar syndrome? :D
If Alex continues prepping for the show at least for a while, a show he won't do, you'll see there's no dramatic change in muscle size. Why? Because of already being a long term drug user. Groink couldn't even admit he's trying out some HRT now as nothing would happen.
Natural liars beasts.
alex is nto at the level of groink ,,groink has level that can do regional show and place well,,alex not at this level,,groink has the muscle under the thick skin ,,he is developed well and is pretty symetric aside from chest,,groink has physiqe that can be taken to national level in no time if compete,,alex should first start with local and see how he is doing,,groink can go straight into regional show in americana,,
both on hormones ofcourse
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I didn't lie, I'm pretty up front.
Yes but you used and Groink never has. Both great lifters, trainers and owners of physiques to be proud of.
You used -- no shame bro -- Groink never did, much respect for going his own way on this.
All happy and all look great.
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Yes but you used and Groink never has. Both great lifters, trainers and owners of physiques to be proud of.
You used -- no shame bro -- Groink never did, much respect for going his own way on this.
All happy and all look great.
do you really think that if someone has natural physiqe that look like that....he woudnt do anything in his power to make money out of bodybuild and fitness,,that fella would jump on hormones just because he would go into contract and do the before and after commericla,s,,would do comercials to bowflex next tro chcuk norris,,would live off bodybuild,,would be kyoshi moddi and skin lacour and earn money out of lies as in the so call natural bodybuild,,atleast groink has some character to not do it,,
if someone had physiqe of the such naturaly which is not possible simply due to the thickness at the BODYFAT PRESENTEDN,,but if someone did have natural phsyiqe remseble to this...they would not be able to stop the what if i look like ron colman or arnold thouht in their head and would go on hormones ,,they would do it because as males that are sitting all day on bodybuild board,,males that walk around training all the time and living off bodybuild cultures,,as males who like the attention ...they would want to get better at it ...they would want to see females look at them 3 times while turning their head putting their hand on their mouth while saying oh my god what the fuck is this....they would never let this go they would persue this and go on hormones,,
reason they never get that look is because THE LOOK YOU SEE ON THEM IS! THE BEST LOOK THEY COULD GET OUT OF HORMONES! BECAUSE THEY BEEN ON THEM FOR MANY YEARS,,I AM NTO TALKING HERE 1.5 YEARS,,IM TALKIN GOOD 10-20 YEARS HERE
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We have a few jealous shitheads here that apparently feel so inferior that apparently, they would rather die than give someone credit for having Good development.
I can't imagine being such a butt-hurt, petty little turd that You try and shoot someone down when its obvious to everyone with a functional brain you are talking out of your ass.
That said...here are some different shots of my "fat, shapeless....AVERAGE " arms. ::) ::)
What are you thinking, you need to be 250lbs lean on getbig to impress anyone...haha
I need to up my game. Solid results there.
You have to feel bad for No One. Someone posts a shot looking clearly above average, and this picture less tool can't help but cry out in failure. :D
Guy doesn't even have the small amount of baby courage to put a shot up.
Stay on getbig, don't post a shot of your mediocrity, that's where you belong boy.
Myself and Groink, along with others, will be in the gym crushing it, where it counts. ;)
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My understanding is that Groink has been owner of a successful company for some years of his life. He has also said many times that he does not feel inclined to diet down to the levels needed to possibly get some shitty bowflex ad -- that 600 others dudes and these juicing are competing for.
Groink is the most honest bro on here. Been open about issues of identity and all sorts. If he had used he would admit. Let go of this bone, little doggy. Groink is a lifetime natty and that is fact. The rest of the gaps you filling in is SLANDER.
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alex is nto at the level of groink ,,groink has level that can do regional show and place well,,alex not at this level,,groink has the muscle under the thick skin ,,he is developed well and is pretty symetric aside from chest,,groink has physiqe that can be taken to national level in no time if compete,,alex should first start with local and see how he is doing,,groink can go straight into regional show in americana,,
both on hormones ofcourse
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Agreed. Groink has more years of hormonization and I bet he's pretty consistent in the gym.
Alex built himself up as some sort of natural wonder boy with unheard of bodybuilding genetics. Which is why he won't step on stage, the internet meme is more important to him than eating humble pie and showing the true level of his wonder genetics.
I didn't lie, I'm pretty up front.
Well I didn't mention you. ???
But why only pretty up front? What have you hidden? :D
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Alex built himself up as some sort of natural wonder boy with unheard of bodybuilding genetics. Which is why he won't step on stage, the internet meme is more important to him than eating humble pie and showing the true level of his wonder genetics.
He does have amazing genes. Brutal strength, practical and real-world-applicable intelligence, and pro size with no drugs. Again he is not inclined to diet to levels you demand as he has a busy life being an incredibly successful human being earning more than a regular thongman can dream of.
You seem to think that everything must confirm to your narrow and blinkered world view, Vanbuiltass; not everybody is dependent on AAS to built muscle and some have too much going on in the realm of winning to always worry about dieting, shaving, thongs and tanning. Let alone ampoules and scar tissue.
Alex and Groink are genuine alpha-men in a sea of Beta. You can't sink their boat.
PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
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Agreed. Groink has more years of hormonization and I bet he's pretty consistent in the gym.
Alex built himself up as some sort of natural wonder boy with unheard of bodybuilding genetics. Which is why he won't step on stage, the internet meme is more important to him than eating humble pie and showing the true level of his wonder genetics.
Well I didn't mention you. ???
But why only pretty up front? What have you hidden? :D
You're splitting hairs, ok...I've been very upfront :P
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He does have amazing genes. Brutal strength, practical and real-world-applicable intelligence, and pro size with no drugs. Again he is not inclined to diet to levels you demand as he has a busy life being an incredibly successful human being earning more than a regular thongman can dream of.
You seem to think that everything must confirm to your narrow and blinkered world view, Vanbuiltass; not everybody is dependent on AAS to built muscle and some have too much going on in the realm of winning to always worry about dieting, shaving, thongs and tanning. Let alone ampoules and scar tissue.
Alex and Groink are genuine alpha-men in a sea of Beta. You can't sink their boat.
PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
last phrase of reply all in caps and with just a few words..., hmm, Im pretty sure I have seen this posting style before, lol
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He does have amazing genes. Brutal strength, practical and real-world-applicable intelligence, and pro size with no drugs. Again he is not inclined to diet to levels you demand as he has a busy life being an incredibly successful human being earning more than a regular thongman can dream of.
You seem to think that everything must confirm to your narrow and blinkered world view, Vanbuiltass; not everybody is dependent on AAS to built muscle and some have too much going on in the realm of winning to always worry about dieting, shaving, thongs and tanning. Let alone ampoules and scar tissue.
Alex and Groink are genuine alpha-men in a sea of Beta. You can't sink their boat.
PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
nah ,,i know right now and can give you examples of 5'9 5'10 fellas that are buck 90 or 200lb 7-8% and look better and more muscular and appear bigger than him ,,he has good genetic respond but nothing extra ordinary,,infact ill go here and say that he also used uses insulin,,very long time user but just in most likihood doesnt give a fuck about dieting with clean food like all of us since we dont...but we use tons of gh and he doesnt thats why he is 9% and we are 6-7% ..thats the allllll difference friend
also inregarding to his job ...all nice and dandy but plenty of fellas with good jobs that use hormones,,groink is highly dependent on hormones,,we already seen what he looked like on maintennnnence doses of testosterona back in the day when he was sitting on the couch smiling with tht blue shirt or whatever it was back in 2008 ...cant remember the exact picture,,in any case there! he was only on 500-750mg testosterona a week and nothing else and you saw what he looked like,,
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He does have amazing genes. Brutal strength, practical and real-world-applicable intelligence, and pro size with no drugs. Again he is not inclined to diet to levels you demand as he has a busy life being an incredibly successful human being earning more than a regular thongman can dream of.
You seem to think that everything must confirm to your narrow and blinkered world view, Vanbuiltass; not everybody is dependent on AAS to built muscle and some have too much going on in the realm of winning to always worry about dieting, shaving, thongs and tanning. Let alone ampoules and scar tissue.
Alex and Groink are genuine alpha-men in a sea of Beta. You can't sink their boat.
PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
Alex, do you know how pathetic you look when you use one of your many gimmicks to prop yourself up like this. Honestly?
And don't deny it's not you because I know for a fact it is.
And you even putting yourself in the same category as Groink shows how delusional you are.
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i will give you even one more thing that wil help the groink fella,,if the groink fella actualy used trenbolona ace...3 months 120mg a day...you woudl see trensformation out of this world here,,he wont lose even a lb of lean muscle and lose all the fat down to 7% ,,no cardio what so ever ....gh will make it even faster and larger as in mor elean muscle mass thus more 3 dimentional look
gh and trenbolona on him will = competitor
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i will give you even one more thing that wil help the groink fella,,if the groink fella actualy used trenbolona ace...3 months 120mg a day...you woudl see trensformation out of this world here,,he wont lose even a lb of lean muscle and lose all the fat down to 7% ,,no cardio what so ever ....gh will make it even faster and larger as in mor elean muscle mass thus more 3 dimentional look
gh and trenbolona on him will = competitor
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tren burns fat?
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tren burns fat?
yes,,trenbolona ace will burn fat ,,and will do it WITH ZERO CARDIO,,ofcourse gh will speed the process and make it double and tripe the speed but if you have enough trenbolona in system as in daily injects of true 100mg trenbolona ace...you will get LEAN pretty fast,,
most bodybuild when see results of trenbolona ace ,,true high quality poweder are so infatuated with it ,,especialy the ones who want to compete and dream live and do bodybuild,,they just become so infatuated that they truely consider injecting every 12 hours...i dont know if its for everyone since its lots of injections and it is cow drug....but i can assure you that MANY bodybuild in top amatuer and profesional put in their body 100-500 mg trenbolona ace a day wether one inject or 2 injects a day they do it,,
its the only drug that actualy yous ee changes from week to week and day to day at time ,,you can actualy see it with trenbolona hapening even if you used to look at yourself alot....you take 60mg every 2 day its gets you some advnacment....you se it you say oh nice,,ill take 100mg every 2 day ..you do it after 3 week you see damn i look leaner and appear bigger....your brain tell you ok lets try 100mg every day ,,,you do this...you start seeing that the muscle become hard and the lines are gettign defined and clearer...you say ummmmm nice you also start hearing at this stage about how lean you become ,,you dont hear anything about loss of size but more of how lean you became and are you getting ready fro show....you hear compliments all over...you go and say ummm lets try 120-150 mg every day...you do this and you actualy start seeing that yoru arms and other musles mesurments grow! while losing bodyfat ....you see on scale 207lb insted of 217 lb yet the arm is 18 inch insted of 17.5 like it used to be back when you were 217lb...
you get the idea?
trenbolona is why fellas can step on stage in the condition they do now day ,,ofcourse other drugs are big part and gh is huge part but trenbolona is VERY VERY IMPORTANT DRUG for bodybuild since we HATE CARDIO AND WE REALLY DO NOT DO CARDIO ,,we get lean on the drugs with usually not much change in diet aside from lower the fat and paying little more atention ,,but many times we still eat pizza,,still drink natural sugar ,, still eat muffins,,sushi all the time,,german jamaican you name it,,
its the drugs who get us lean and thats the truth
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How the fuck can anyone claim that steroids are just the "finishing touch"? This pic alone proves that you can give a woman steroids and she will become bigger and more muscular than 99.9% of the male population. Its way more then an extra 10%.
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How the fuck can anyone claim that steroids are just the "finishing touch"? This pic alone proves that you can give a woman steroids and she will become bigger and more muscular than 99.9% of the male population. Its way more then an extra 10%.
this is not alot either...trenbolona ace on regular basis daily 120-150mg every day
hgh 5 iu a day
prop at minimal doses 50mg a day
masteorn or winstrol for dryign up and hardening effect
that is it,,this is the wholllle secret behind bodybuild,,you want her bigger as in phil heath sbalooned up or the oily rubbery lookin every average competitor on national stage? get her on insulina too
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i will give you even one more thing that wil help the groink fella,,if the groink fella actualy used trenbolona ace...3 months 120mg a day...you woudl see trensformation out of this world here,,he wont lose even a lb of lean muscle and lose all the fat down to 7% ,,no cardio what so ever ....gh will make it even faster and larger as in mor elean muscle mass thus more 3 dimentional look
gh and trenbolona on him will = competitor
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Why the fuck do I even try to bust my ass as a natural anymore? ;D I can take something that will get me ripped without cardio and while keeping all my muscle? I'm starting to wonder how "hardcore" some of these bodybuilders really are. It seems like it would be pretty easy if your taking the right combination of shit. :D
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i forgot to mention that with the so call female it is also aromataze inhibitor to completly shut down estrogen production ,,they prefger letrozole and arimidex nwo day ,,used to be estrogen blockers now day the serious ones prefer to completely eliminate the estrogen that in female go crazy high ,,its like the fat middle eastern male only a female version which put it to the 10th degree and that true to every female out there inregard to estrogen,,so they always use good blocker
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this is not alot either...trenbolona ace on regular basis daily 120-150mg every day
hgh 5 iu a day
prop at minimal doses 50mg a day
masteorn or winstrol for dryign up and hardening effect
that is it,,this is the wholllle secret behind bodybuild,,you want her bigger as in phil heath sbalooned up or the oily rubbery lookin every average competitor on national stage? get her on insulina too
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Oh its no secret my friend. I just dont like the idea of going through back-alley transactions because some government fuck-tard made it illegal. Smoking and alcohol kill hundreds of thousands of innocent ppl yet they are still legal ::)
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Why the fuck do I even try to bust my ass as a natural anymore? ;D I can take something that will get me ripped without cardio and while keeping all my muscle? I'm starting to wonder how "hardcore" some of these bodybuilders really are. It seems like it would be pretty easy if your taking the right combination of shit. :D
we are not,,we spend 45 min in the gym 4 times a week ,,if we are high on trenbolona which is the only drug that really get you "muscle high" and agressive then we go 5-6 times and in prep in general 5-6 times a week ,,if very drug infested we do prep 2 time a day inorder to get down to 4% from 6% but thats when we are loaded on specific product such as trenbolona and other specific products,,
who ever told you bodybuild do cardio aside from when they want to get down to 4% from 6%....lied to you,,bodybuild walk around day in day out 6% with zero cardio ,,
trenbolona is the best cardio one can have,,and gh added to it eliminate the need to eat very clean to begin with,,
what do you think we get to be 250lb on stage by eating brokly and dry chieck ? wize up friends,,dry chikcen and brokly put you on stage at 162 lb ,,you want 200lb + hell you want 185lb + on stage you need DRUGS and specific ones.... you also need to stop thinking that clean food is the way to get ripped,,clean food is the way to get FLAT and lean....if you want ripped and shredded it is DRUGS and then combination of food rich in calories and then some clean food ,,you need to knwo your body and your HORMONES
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Groink looks pretty good. The other fella who is 6% bodyfat looks great. Here's one caveat to this. Regardless of the amount of training a man/woman does in the gym or elsewhere, Testosterone does not increase once you get into your 30's and 40's. If Groink has been lifting for 20plus years, his physique "if natural like he states" would be much more impressive in his early to late 20's. A natural physique in their 40's would be trying to hang on to anything they can. A natural in their 40's can't hide from muscle wasting.
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we are not,,we spend 45 min in the gym 4 times a week ,,if we are high on trenbolona which is the only drug that really get you "muscle high" and agressive then we go 5-6 times and in prep in general 5-6 times a week ,,if very drug infested we do prep 2 time a day inorder to get down to 4% from 6% but thats when we are loaded on specific product such as trenbolona and other specific products,,
who ever told you bodybuild do cardio aside from when they want to get down to 4% from 6%....lied to you,,bodybuild walk around day in day out 6% with zero cardio ,,
trenbolona is the best cardio one can have,,and gh added to it eliminate the need to eat very clean to begin with,,
what do you think we get to be 250lb on stage by eating brokly and dry chieck ? wize up friends,,dry chikcen and brokly put you on stage at 162 lb ,,you want 200lb + hell you want 185lb + on stage you need DRUGS and specific ones.... you also need to stop thinking that clean food is the way to get ripped,,clean food is the way to get FLAT and lean....if you want ripped and shredded it is DRUGS and then combination of food rich in calories and then some clean food ,,you need to knwo your body and your HORMONES
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Wow.................... This is 100% truth right here. You wont find this in any of those muscle mags.
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Whenever someone replies to your post its a "meltdown" and they are "smashing their keyboard".........CHECK
LOLOL...thanks for proving my point for me you moron :D
PS......Making sure you begin or end your posts with "Ahahahahahahahaaaaa" ....So we all know "you don't care"....CHECK
awww, dont be so hurt 'arm don'. ::)
thats quite the check list your compiling. you forgot this one:
in your head....CHECK.
its fun knowing you jump every time i post, no matter what i write. whats it like knowing that you have to reply to everything i say?
ahahahahahahaahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahhaa < (just for you)
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Never......not once.
here's the thing......ifs guys like ME that look inhuman look like freaks geared up...and pretty good otherwise.
never said I was the biggest or best here......but NATTY. ..I'm way way up there.
oh this is awesome - our very own 'groink-' king of the internet bodybuilders- claiming to look 'inhuman'
holy fuck- you look inhuman now. ::) wow. nice ego sparky. what a dick.
lol
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Groink looks pretty good. The other fella who is 6% bodyfat looks great. Here's one caveat to this. Regardless of the amount of training a man/woman does in the gym or elsewhere, Testosterone does not increase once you get into your 30's and 40's. If Groink has been lifting for 20plus years, his physique "if natural like he states" would be much more impressive in his early to late 20's. A natural physique in their 40's would be trying to hang on to anything they can. A natural in their 40's can't hide from muscle wasting.
take a look at bobbie skin ,,then take a look at groink skin.....same thing,,testosterona overload,,at the age talk about they have ZERO test production by balls,,the apearance of skin can never be misguided when on testosterona,,the reason you build size is from higher doses of testosterona as in 1-2 grams not 500mg.....notice the fella on 1200mg testosterona always look swole,,if they start with low enough bodyfat they look thick and swole and high singles,,
inaddition the oily skin is a give away ,,you can never hide oily skin ,,you can see it shining from distance,,you can hide pimples and eliminate them and all the other shit americanos do becuase they waste more money on the bi products to prevent sides than on the hormones lol ,,but the oily skin you can never stop and he has big time oily skin ,,its just stuff you cant hide especialy when you talk serious bodybuild,,
then again look at skippy lacour,,his skin is floaded with oil lol he has so much oil falling off his delts and forhead that he can open oil factory and yet he is making a living off natural bodybuild lol
its ust somethign wrong but its americana anything is possible aslong as you shut your mouth,,
if you only knew how they beg for hormones behind close doors and how much kiss ass being made you would not belivee your eyes,, its just amazing human nature especialy of this generation
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thats where you confuse it missy,, kreator can walk into any npc show and win first place and over all quite easily,, he got one of bext upper bod on the getbig board,,groink can go into competition and dont know how he will place,,
both are hormonized,, kreator with out shame put it all out,,was true abotu it ,,groink is not,,the level of thicknes of groink is beyond anything natural can ever get in the level of bodyfat presented,,he got the all americano dealer look ,,you know what this look is? it is the look of the local dealer who get into gym with the gym bag full of goodies circa 2003....and sell laurabolin for 150dolaros to kidos around...he got this EXACT LOOK ,,they are always stuck at 230-240lb on hormones.. compete at 190... and sometime blow up on slin to 250... they alwys around 8-14% bodyfat,,,they always tell everyone they are 12...even when they are 8% because they got fat from within the muscle mainly and the water thickness from hormonal usage on regular basis,,
groink is PRIME example of a fella that been to hormones for many many years,,he is prime example of someone who got the type of physiqe that creams hormones,,he is also prime example of someone who would use testosterona suspension just to see how it blow him up...
his changes can be dramatic because! only hormone changes can be dramatic,,he lose very little muscle because! only hormone changes can keep most if not all muscle on you while losing water and fat,,
there is no ifs or buts,,there is no someone clean ,, natural was long long gone but this is far from clean ,,this is hormonized on EVERY DAY BASIS ,,every week if longer esters which is common with the dealer look i wias talking about,,
those specific looks alway look worse than kreator on stage because what you see on kreator is LEAN MUSCLE 99.5% LEAN MUSCLE,,on groinhk he would have to get down in weight to the 200lb zone inorder to show something that resemble kreator and even then ....he wont be as shreded ,,for that driness he will have to be 190-195...,,it will be equivalent to kreator height wize proportions even little bigger due to heigh difference but still not as dy ,,the kreator fella got thin skin geneticaly and will look always better due to his skin type...only way to look better than him is getting to same bodyfat as him and be paralel to him in weight/size/height ratio ...7lb per inch
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LMAO at MISSY..haven't been called that for some time. GH, I didn't say Groink could walk on stage did I? NO.
BUT GH, IF groink wanted to do a thong fest, right dieting and "supps" you can't deny he could be a BIGGER fucker than he is.
Like I said, they both have different looks. Both look great IMO.
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I knew a dude who had whip scorpions...
A lonely dude he was...playing with bugs all the time...
And by the way, Groink has pretty good arms...
Arm Don....
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God and dogbowl are correct, once one hits sub-8 then the magic begins 8)
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Thats ridiculous...comparing Natural and geared up is liking comparing a showroom car to an F1 car
i think you missed my point, my point was being natural over geared doesnt really entitle you to anything special, some people wear their "natural" status as a badge of honor i just dont get it, im not comparing the physiques themselves just the attitudes that go along with it
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Gorgeous....absolutely gorgeous
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LMAO at MISSY..haven't been called that for some time. GH, I didn't say Groink could walk on stage did I? NO.
BUT GH, IF groink wanted to do a thong fest, right dieting and "supps" you can't deny he could be a BIGGER fucker than he is.
Like I said, they both have different looks. Both look great IMO.
Too old. His genetic response to pro level hormones would most likely just destroy his organs completely.
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Looks like someone has been tightening their diet- nice work. Vascular 18's look much better than soft 19's.
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Let me say this...you can take from it What you will.
GH15 has an uncanny knack for nailing BF. . body type...stuff lime that. He hit the nail on the head about Where I hold my fat and he obviously knows just about everything There is to know about chemical enhancement ....
BUT.. that being said...I SWEAR ON MY KID...I don't take what he says I do.....he's way,way off.
I'll tell you exactly what I take.....its light years away from what he says
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Let me say this...you can take from it What you will.
GH15 has an uncanny knack for nailing BF. . body type...stuff lime that. He hit the nail on the head about Where I hold my fat and he obviously knows just about everything There is to know about chemical enhancement ....
BUT.. that being said...I SWEAR ON MY KID...I don't take what he says I do.....he's way,way off.
I'll tell you exactly what I take.....its light years away from what he says
All protein
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All protein
straight from the tap
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groink is nattie .. the only true natty here ;D
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here you go That's everything....my "secret stack" that I've been clinging to for years.
First bottle on left is T-UP black....a D-aspartic acid Supp that works really well. The label ripped so I took it off
Second is Somatomax. ..a very effective GH releaser. You will sleep like a baby on This stuff
Third is A-HD. ....an anti-aromatase that took 10 lbs of water off of me.....that's why I look "leaner". GH 15is on the money about me and water
That's ALL of it....being 1000% honest about it.
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groink is nattie .. the only true natty here ;D
thats like saying Adrian is natural,,,,per inch vs muscule they are equal,,,adrian 6'3''
and groink 5'9'' 200lbs
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Now what is the deal with the woman on the last page. I know the name is GH15 but she uses 5 ius?
Is that more for the offseason when you want real mutation to take place instead of precontest? Are guys using 15iu's precontest on a regional national level? Why not save that for the pros???
Dude...why open yourself up to getting flamed on here claiming natty honestly.
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Dear cute GH15, what's the situation with my physique? I'm not fishing for compliments but would be interesting to hear what you think I was on at that time.
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t25/ait_z28/2-10-201007-53-12PM.jpg)
And Growingpink looking massive 8)
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awww, dont be so hurt 'arm don'. ::)
thats quite the check list your compiling. you forgot this one:
in your head....CHECK.
its fun knowing you jump every time i post, no matter what i write. whats it like knowing that you have to reply to everything i say?
ahahahahahahaahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahhaa < (just for you)
And your responding to every one of mine is what exactly ?
I guess being a monster hypocrite is a concept that goes right over your head ;)
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here you go That's everything....my "secret stack" that I've been clinging to for years.
First bottle on left is T-UP black....a D-aspartic acid Supp that works really well. The label ripped so I took it off
Second is Somatomax. ..a very effective GH releaser. You will sleep like a baby on This stuff
Third is A-HD. ....an anti-aromatase that took 10 lbs of water off of me.....that's why I look "leaner". GH 15is on the money about me and water
That's ALL of it....being 1000% honest about it.
so why would a natural guy need anti aromatase pills? hmm
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so why would a natural guy need anti aromatase pills? hmm
Because if I even look at Chinese food I hold 5 lbs of water......and its a test booster as well....sorry to disappoint, but that's all I take.
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Because if I even look at Chinese food I hold 5 lbs of water......and its a test booster as well....sorry to disappoint, but that's all I take.
so its like a pro hormone?
btw this is a genuine question, Im just on whey right now (and superpump sometimes), Im thinking about trying your GH and Test Booster stack.
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Because if I even look at Chinese food I hold 5 lbs of water......and its a test booster as well....sorry to disappoint, but that's all I take.
Brace yourself!
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Groink arms are huge, far from average .
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Because if I even look at Chinese food I hold 5 lbs of water......and its a test booster as well....sorry to disappoint, but that's all I take.
Big deal the water will drop in a day or two when you eat clean. It takes eating crap constantly and eating when your body isn't finished digesting the last meal to actually gain fat.
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Big deal the water will drop in a day or two when you eat clean. It takes eating crap constantly and eating when your body isn't finished digesting the last meal to actually gain fat.
exactly
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exactly
I said Water? ?
can we please focus here and stay on topic? ;D
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I said Water? ?
can we please focus here and stay on topic? ;D
I am ya goof..I quoted what Grim Lifter was saying it takes eating crap constantly etc...
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Really...post up some shots of guys that have entered. ....lets compare shall we?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=371100.0;attach=407944)
We can't compare because you can barely see anything in this photo. Take photos full length of the poses they used in mr getbig, and then yes we can compare them side by side. I still say you'd be last because you're too soft. Bodybuilding is about the entire body, not about arm girth.
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I said Water? ?
can we please focus here and stay on topic? ;D
I believe ur clean bro, after many years (and with a good base B4 juice) your body won't change how much muscle it holds unless you stop training or take a lot of drugs. It then depends upon how lean you want to be. Also the quality you can get. Dexter Jackson told me once quality doesn't kick in until 30, better at 35 and 40 it's great (look at Ronnie). That's just an example but you have the look of many years of training that's why you should stay as lean as you can. Because it's a 1 in 10,000+ look that hardly anyone has and takes years to gain.
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Dear cute GH15, what's the situation with my physique? I'm not fishing for compliments but would be interesting to hear what you think I was on at that time.
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t25/ait_z28/2-10-201007-53-12PM.jpg)
And Growingpink looking massive 8)
Now with the lights on:
(http://imgur.com/k04V6.jpg)
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Now with the lights on:
(http://imgur.com/k04V6.jpg)
oh look....another hyper-critical, anonymous troll ::)
I guess the chances of you posting a pic are slim to none...eh, you "beast" ? ;)
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I have no idea who this guy is, but he would beat you too. And he is hardly "inhuman".
(http://www.scottalexander.tv/x/img/portfolio/scott-alexander-photo2o.jpg)
That is not even a real picture, nitwit.
100% CGI (computer-generated image).
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Because if I even look at Chinese food I hold 5 lbs of water......and its a test booster as well....sorry to disappoint, but that's all I take.
You'll never convince everyone or even most people, esp. the better you look, lol. I, for one, believe you.
Arms look sick there, as always.
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oh look....another hyper-critical, anonymous troll ::)
It's hyper-critical to fix the photo so that you can see his body?
I didn't comment on his physique
(p.s. You can't dim the lights and hide 3/4 of your body on stage)
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never doubted him...
what would he have to gain by lying
the reason a lot of people dont believe him is because they dont train hard so they wont understand that good genetics + hard training = great results
majority here are just internet trolls
not serious trainers
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groink made a thread about his arms?
::)
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Even if Groink never posted his photos or made claims about being natural, the fact that he sides with Alex23 speaks volumes about him as a person.
Yeah, I dont get that.
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And this post, ladies and gentlemen, is why GH15 was, is, and forever will be your God. All you fuckos out there crying how jealous he is of naturals are either delusional or are amongst the league of the biggest liars on this board.
Are there things "brospore" ::)
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groink made a thread about his arms?
::)
lmfao ;D
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Now with the lights on:
(http://imgur.com/k04V6.jpg)
I'm not that white, punk.
p.s saved!
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Now what is the deal with the woman on the last page. I know the name is GH15 but she uses 5 ius?
Is that more for the offseason when you want real mutation to take place instead of precontest? Are guys using 15iu's precontest on a regional national level? Why not save that for the pros???
Dude...why open yourself up to getting flamed on here claiming natty honestly.
she is woman ,,,women are not as big when it comes to lean muscle ,,they dont need as much,,the female body will work fine with half the dose of men for bodybuilding,,they are females ,,they are fountains of estrogen and weakness that even half doses will create mutation....their thing is to eliminate the estrogen because they got TONS OF IT,,as i said most females that healthy have much much more estrogen than the most feminine male out there,,
5-6 iu is for her,,males use much more,,if you notice she look like typical local gym rat male champ in no where to be found town in mid texas...many males like her ,,why? because they use same doses of gh lol and over all close in the dose
regional and national use 15 iu for competitions ,,any fella 220lb on stage uses at the least AT THE LEAST 10 IU gh with insulin on regulas basis
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Dear cute GH15, what's the situation with my physique? I'm not fishing for compliments but would be interesting to hear what you think I was on at that time.
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t25/ait_z28/2-10-201007-53-12PM.jpg)
And Growingpink looking massive 8)
picture is deciving and ilusion but never the less you are not suffering from much bodyfat as much asw from softness that is due to testosterona and aromatizing orals,,the testosterona nandrolona and dianabol if not lean enough result in that type of look but then again your main problem is the softness which is from extra estrogen not only from water which in a way are the same but there is a diff too,,your softness is many times achivable naturaly and many people woudl nto even think you are on hormones....the thickness is the give away and the skin tecture and delt fulness,,its lots of water and not as much fat you are somewhere between 12-15% and the estrogen and water make it look closer to 15 but you are closer to 12..the idea in your situation is to eliminate testosterona down to 50mg a day prop insted of long ester and to take daily trenbolona ace the more the better,, add masterona to fight the estrogen and get it all into a more dense and hard level,,
your real cycle shoud be
trenbolona ace
testosterona
masterona
gh
that is it ,,3 months and you are down to sub 10% and dont lose even 1/100 of an inch on any muscle infact you will grow them
good luck
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=371100.0;attach=407944)
We can't compare because you can barely see anything in this photo. Take photos full length of the poses they used in mr getbig, and then yes we can compare them side by side. I still say you'd be last because you're too soft. Bodybuilding is about the entire body, not about arm girth.
his arms are big and lean,,he hold good a mount of musclr there ,,like someone has good chest he has good arms,,he is legit 18 inch on stage ,,not 17.4576 but legit 18 inches when 5%,,he also got good shape to the tricep and he got good over all thickness on the arms...thats his strength ...his arms
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Now with the lights on:
(http://imgur.com/k04V6.jpg)
according to this pictures you are 15%,,then again it is only picture,,you got the bloofy look i keep telling you fellas about,,it come from tne...it come from too much testosterona with out enough gh to work with that testosterona...so physiqe become bloofy ,,you hold lots of water and some fat,,14-15%...then again you stressed for few days and dont eat or eat clean and you are 13% ....its water game with your type of body but the 13% you got on you are TRULY 13% meaning you can lose lal the water in the world and you will still remain 13% so the mistake people can make about yoru body fat when they call you in gym 16% or shit like that is a mistake but only 3% mistake,,,you are not 10%
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gh15 approved
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Barely legal freak
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I believe ur clean bro, after many years (and with a good base B4 juice) your body won't change how much muscle it holds unless you stop training or take a lot of drugs. It then depends upon how lean you want to be. Also the quality you can get. Dexter Jackson told me once quality doesn't kick in until 30, better at 35 and 40 it's great (look at Ronnie). That's just an example but you have the look of many years of training that's why you should stay as lean as you can. Because it's a 1 in 10,000+ look that hardly anyone has and takes years to gain.
the reasaon you should always stay lean is because mutation can not happen if you are not lean ,,only the fellas who are lean can actualy grow the muscle itself and not the shit the muscle is sit around,,its like empty swimming pool .....you put water in you fill it right? it get to a dandy point where its all nice and comfy and you can sit and relax on your fun noodle whiel drinking pina colada,,but what happen if the swimming pool is full and you continue to pump in water to the swimming pool? doesnt sound fun anymore right? flip you over and no more pina colada
the moral of the story is,,,you should always start from the lean point and then build on it ,,you dont need no dianabol and anadrol and testosterona 2 gram a week if you are a walking fatzo in bodybuild terms standing 15-20%...infact you dont need it even if you are 12% ,,you shoudl only start using the growing products when 6-8%....prefrebly 6-7%...then! you will blow up,,make sure you start very cut and as dry as you can....not stage dry but lean and drier than the average gym rat....
so,,trenbolona ace testosterona prop ,,eq and gh to get you LEAN first...then when you are lean as in sub 7% you kick in testoerona long ester 1.5 gram into body weekly with higher dose anabolics ...later on you increase gh doses because you need insulin so you become bigger thicker while remaining lean as in SINGLE DIGIT,,
have you ever seen bodybuild who truly look fat? even liar priest wasnt fat in that commercial he did 10 year back with the kfc bucket..he was low doubles but mader to look like obese...
bodybuilders realy walk around 6-12% 12 considered fat ,,most bodybuild who go places never even get to 10% ,,they go from 4 to 8 and then back to 4 and then back to 8,,they run all years between 4 to 8 % depending on the goal ahead...
the only way to be 8% and large as in massive as in thick as in 230 240 250 260 270 280 is INSULIN inaddition to the higher doses of gh and rest of the aas mentioned
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GH do my fortune next... lol, what do you see here
im 5'10
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Barely legal freak
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now this fella is what 8-9% look like ....this is bloofy look but in the singles...due to gh and insulin ,,just someone who is not tuned with his body and count on hormones his skin is thick from gh but the body fat unlike the other fella that is 12-15% ...the bodyfat of this fella in the picture is in the singles...like every hormonized bodybuild who LOOKS like a bodybuild,,he is a water fountain ofcourse but its nto the smae type of fat the other fella has,,this fella has fat from within the muscle and mainly water to lose inbetween skin and muscle,,he is 10lb from looking great
the main key is bodyfat ,,moment you stabelize yourself into the single digit ...the growing from there is quite easy if you have the products needed,, the hard part is to get to the single digit especialy if you have the genetic disposition to be 15-20% like most average males
gh15 approved
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Brent2741,
you should go into schmoe wrestling- you would make a killing
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Brent2741,
you should go into schmoe wrestling- you would make a killing
First customer?
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First customer?
that is a sad day when I have to pay a muscular man to wrestle me at a Day's Inn in Albany NY near Crossgates Mall
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GOODNESS,
forgot how big Brent was..BIG DUDE
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that is a sad day when I have to pay a muscular man to wrestle me at a Day's Inn in Albany NY near Crossgates Mall
Question about this wrestling......does the customer get to win or is that the fantasy to be dominated by a muscular dude?
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that is a sad day when I have to pay a muscular man to wrestle me at a Day's Inn in Albany NY near Crossgates Mall
still meeting at 5:30-6 right??
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picture is deciving and ilusion but never the less you are not suffering from much bodyfat as much asw from softness that is due to testosterona and aromatizing orals,,the testosterona nandrolona and dianabol if not lean enough result in that type of look but then again your main problem is the softness which is from extra estrogen not only from water which in a way are the same but there is a diff too,,your softness is many times achivable naturaly and many people woudl nto even think you are on hormones....the thickness is the give away and the skin tecture and delt fulness,,its lots of water and not as much fat you are somewhere between 12-15% and the estrogen and water make it look closer to 15 but you are closer to 12..the idea in your situation is to eliminate testosterona down to 50mg a day prop insted of long ester and to take daily trenbolona ace the more the better,, add masterona to fight the estrogen and get it all into a more dense and hard level,,
your real cycle shoud be
trenbolona ace
testosterona
masterona
gh
that is it ,,3 months and you are down to sub 10% and dont lose even 1/100 of an inch on any muscle infact you will grow them
good luck
gh15 approved
Your analysis was spot on! :o Will do your cycle as soon as I go back home and will post progress.
How are these numbers looking
trenbolona ace 50mg/day
testosterona prop 50mg/day
masterona ?
gh 4IU/day Nordilet Norditropin
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Groink, God dammit make that bed! >:(
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still meeting at 5:30-6 right??
yes
i hate my dad
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And people, I don't see too much, if any drug use here. I see a 230 pound man who has been lifting weights and applying solid nutrition for 15+ years.
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GOODNESS,
forgot how big Brent was..BIG DUDE
lol.... quite a compliment coming from you
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lol.... quite a compliment coming from you
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;D
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GOODNESS,
forgot how big Brent was..BIG DUDE
huge bastard right there
huge bastard with muscles
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We have a few jealous shitheads here that apparently feel so inferior that apparently, they would rather die than give someone credit for having Good development.
I can't imagine being such a butt-hurt, petty little turd that You try and shoot someone down when its obvious to everyone with a functional brain you are talking out of your ass.
That said...here are some different shots of my "fat, shapeless....AVERAGE " arms. ::) ::)
Looks bigger then 19... Wouldn't mind seeing those measured. Im 18.5 pumped and mine are no where near that size relaxed.
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here you go That's everything....my "secret stack" that I've been clinging to for years.
First bottle on left is T-UP black....a D-aspartic acid Supp that works really well. The label ripped so I took it off
Second is Somatomax. ..a very effective GH releaser. You will sleep like a baby on This stuff
Third is A-HD. ....an anti-aromatase that took 10 lbs of water off of me.....that's why I look "leaner". GH 15is on the money about me and water
That's ALL of it....being 1000% honest about it.
Look at the ingredients in one of the supplements Groink is taking..A-HD...I'm to lazy to research the many chems in this shit. However, it looks like a few hormonal compounds in it..Can anyone verify if superdrol or Pheraplex are in it...
Groink is a Legal Steroid freak..Yeah buddy.
28 Capsules
Serving Size:1Capsule
Servings Per Container:28
Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Niacin (As Nicotinic Acid, USP) 25mg 125%
Proprietary Blend 250mg *
(3s,4s)-4-[(3,4-Dimethoxyphenyl)methyl]-3-Hydroxy-3-[[3-Methoxy-4-[(2s,3r,4s,5r,6r)-3,4,5-Trihydroxy-6-(Hydroxymethyl)oxan-2-Yl]oxy-Phenyl]methyl]oxolan-2-One
(2r,3r)-2,3-Bis[(4-Hydroxy-3-Methoxyphenyl)methyl]butane-1,4-Diol;(2r,3r,4s,5s,6r)-6-(Hydroxymethyl)oxane-2,3,4,5-Tetrol
(S)-5-Hydroxy-1-(4-Hydroxy-3-Methoxyphenyl)-3-Decanone
4-[(E)-2-(3,5-Dimethoxyphenyl)ethenyl]phenol
Phenethyl(E)-3-(3,4-Dihydroxyphenyl)prop-2-Enoate
Standardized Phytochemical Complex: Cynara Cardunculus (Leaf); Curcoma Longa (Rhizome); Capsicum Annuum (Whole Plant); Pelargonium Graveolens (Whole Plant).
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GH do my fortune next... lol, what do you see here
im 5'10
Youre huge man..
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For a relaxed shot, thats fucking huge!!!....
Hell for any shot thats FUCKING HUGE!!! Good work big man, damn!
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For a relaxed shot, thats fucking huge!!!....
Hell for any shot thats FUCKING HUGE!!! Good work big man, damn!
thanks brosef
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thanks brosef
Who are you? lol
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hey gh15: what do you think this guy uses?
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;)
Look at the ingredients in one of the supplements Groink is taking..A-HD...I'm to lazy to research the many chems in this shit. However, it looks like a few hormonal compounds in it..Can anyone verify if superdrol or Pheraplex are in it.. :).
Groink is a Legal Steroid freak..Yeah buddy.
28 Capsules
Serving Size:1Capsule
Servings Per Container:28
Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Niacin (As Nicotinic Acid, USP) 25mg 125%
Proprietary Blend 250mg *
(3s,4s)-4-[(3,4-Dimethoxyphenyl)methyl]-3-Hydroxy-3-[[3-Methoxy-4-[(2s,3r,4s,5r,6r)-3,4,5-Trihydroxy-6-(Hydroxymethyl)oxan-2-Yl]oxy-Phenyl]methyl]oxolan-2-One
(2r,3r)-2,3-Bis[(4-Hydroxy-3-Methoxyphenyl)methyl]butane-1,4-Diol;(2r,3r,4s,5s,6r)-6-(Hydroxymethyl)oxane-2,3,4,5-Tetrol
(S)-5-Hydroxy-1-(4-Hydroxy-3-Methoxyphenyl)-3-Decanone
4-[(E)-2-(3,5-Dimethoxyphenyl)ethenyl]phenol
Phenethyl(E)-3-(3,4-Dihydroxyphenyl)prop-2-Enoate
Standardized Phytochemical Complex: Cynara Cardunculus (Leaf); Curcoma Longa (Rhizome); Capsicum Annuum (Whole Plant); Pelargonium Graveolens (Whole Plant).
derived from plant sterols. ...convert to anti estrogens. no synthetic molecule chains attached...not a muscle building compound.
Superdrol is a straight up potent steroid.....apples and oranges
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hey gh15: what do you think this guy uses?
hormonised to some extent
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does the jerking off give you a peak in that bicep?
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People, people.. ::) Those of you saying that its basically impossible to gain a decent amount of size using no or very little hormones are dead wrong. And its very obvious the people with that opinion obviously haven't spent enough time lifting heavy ass weights in the gym either. They are the lesser individuals that lacked discipline and determination to grow, gave up natural training rather quickly out of impatience and despair, resorted to AAS right away and now are bitter and jealous of anyone who did what they were unable to do. Put your time in the gym (10 years+) with plenty of milk and food and size will come.
However, once you have used AAS its fairly easy to maintain a decent amount of the size you gained from using it, even years later with minimal maintenance training. Running hormones 1 or 2 months of the year has its advantages too but only if you keep training hard with lots of food which can sometimes seem like a waste of time. Muscle memory goes a long way too!
Visually, AAS gives muscles a certain quality that has a certain look to it that always stands out, so i'm surprised with all gh15s so called "experience" he doesnt have the ability to tell that Groink is not currently using hormones. Its as plain as day to see hes not.
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hormonised to some extent
Never popped a single pill or taken any steroids/PH, Mars.
And Sevasturd, you obsessed fag, here's gh15's quote saying I'm natural, since you put so much stock into what he thinks
i changed my mind ,,i only saw the firts pictures now i saw all of them,,youre nto hormonized ,,its the way you posed first pictures and the fact you woere alightly lower bodyfat with the lighting
you used regular supplemtns maybe some pro hormones nothing tthat can be considered hormones
good job
natural
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GH do my fortune next... lol, what do you see here
im 5'10
Farkin big dude.
....but still,epic original tribal or barb wire tattoo,girls white iphone,and wore a sleeveless shirt to the local Mexican restaurant so he could take a pic in the men's room :)
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Never popped a single pill or taken any steroids/PH, Mars.
And Sevasturd, you obsessed fag, here's gh15's quote saying I'm natural, since you put so much stock into what he thinks
just kidding angel i wasnt serious. when am i :P juicer material nonentheles
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Farkin big dude.
....but still,epic original tribal or barb wire tattoo,girls white iphone,and wore a sleeveless shirt to the local Mexican restaurant so he could take a pic in the men's room :)
true the tribal i got 12 years ago was not my finest decision, the iphone is actually black with a case and wow you were way off thats the gym i was at not a mexican restaurant. id hate to see the restaurants where you are from
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true the tribal i got 12 years ago was not my finest decision, the iphone is actually black with a case and wow you were way off thats the gym i was at not a mexican restaurant. id hate to see the restaurants where you are from
Just joking around ;)
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Nice avatar Mars....
Can you imagine the amount of Quality putang those two beasts must get?
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yes
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lol @ kiwiol "defending" his "reputation"
such a lying turd
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Now what is the deal with the woman on the last page. I know the name is GH15 but she uses 5 ius?
Anyone wanna guess which steroids she was on here. She was busted and tested by the cops around this time. gh15 doesn't need to guess, but anyone else? :D
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I don't know who that guy is but he always seems genuinely happy in his pics.
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here you go That's everything....my "secret stack" that I've been clinging to for years.
First bottle on left is T-UP black....a D-aspartic acid Supp that works really well. The label ripped so I took it off
Second is Somatomax. ..a very effective GH releaser. You will sleep like a baby on This stuff
Third is A-HD. ....an anti-aromatase that took 10 lbs of water off of me.....that's why I look "leaner". GH 15is on the money about me and water
That's ALL of it....being 1000% honest about it.
Aspartic acid shows some promise for some applications.
Somatomax will work, but causes faster dependence with withdrawal symptoms than Xanax. Might as well take GHB. Nothing natural about this product.
Why you'd buy anything from the company making A-HD makes me wonder. You like putting unknown chemicals in your body? I guarantee that if it it "works" as you claim it contains undisclosed ingredients. Complete scam company on the level of GetItOnNY's company.
Now when are you going to come clean about the "HRT" which you consider natural and clean?
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Never popped a single pill or taken any steroids/PH, Mars.
And Sevasturd, you obsessed fag, here's gh15's quote saying I'm natural, since you put so much stock into what he thinks
ahahahahahah kiwi bringing the pain and putting the bisexual romainian in his place.
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yes
(http://www.buzzinn.net/img/bizarre-and-odd/weird-female-bodybuilder/weird-female-bodybuilder08.jpg)
is that ripitupbaby?
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Just joking around ;)
You best take that bass out of your voice, bro!
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Groink is a big guy who cares what he takes
you have to credit it him for managing to start a new thread about his arms every day for the past two years
brutal validation needed by anonymous internet twinks due to midlife crisis :)
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You best take that bass out of your voice, bro!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Groink is a big guy who cares what he takes
you have to credit it him for managing to start a new thread about his arms every day for the past two years
brutal validation needed by anonymous internet twinks due to midlife crisis :)
Someone gets it
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Aspartic acid shows some promise for some applications.
Somatomax will work, but causes faster dependence with withdrawal symptoms than Xanax. Might as well take GHB. Nothing natural about this product.
Why you'd buy anything from the company making A-HD makes me wonder. You like putting unknown chemicals in your body? I guarantee that if it it "works" as you claim it contains undisclosed ingredients. Complete scam company on the level of GetItOnNY's company.
Now when are you going to come clean about the "HRT" which you consider natural and clean?
Google all that...did ya ?
You know How many people ordered those three products over the last two days ?... 8)...
I know my shit and did my research....but unlike "experts" like You...I actually look like I lift weights.
Don't Take HRT....you guys Are like 0 for 50 in this thread.with your "analyses"...I just showed everyone exactly what I take...no steroids.
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lol @ kiwiol "defending" his "reputation"
such a lying turd
I'm not the one ripping people off their money doing low level cons, Swerdlow's bitch. I see you've avoided gh15's comment since it shows you're full of shit
And speaking of "lying turd", tell us again how you were a gladiator in Rome in your previous life and about the Montauk project ;D
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I'm not the one ripping people off their money doing low level cons, Swerdlow's bitch. I see you've avoided gh15's comment since it shows you're full of shit
And speaking of "lying turd", tell us again how you were a gladiator in Rome in your previous life and about the Montauk project ;D
LOL holy fuck- what was the stupid romainian thinking to take on the mighty kiwi like this- this is embarrassing. old school ownage. non recoverable.
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Really.... Its only gay if you want it to be ;D
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LOL holy fuck- what was the stupid romainian thinking to take on the mighty kiwi like this- this is embarrassing. old school ownage. non recoverable.
He always has a meltdown in every thread in which someone posts pics - it's been happening for 5+ years now. I haven't posted a pic in over 4 years and never mention my physique, but am obviously deep inside his head.
Now watch out for the usual, recycled "I've hurt feelings" squadfather line of posts from WingedLion, lol
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Google all that...did ya ?
You know How many people ordered those three products over the last two days ?... 8)...
I know my shit and did my research....but unlike "experts" like You...I actually look like I lift weights.
Don't Take HRT....you guys Are like 0 for 50 in this thread.with your "analyses"...I just showed everyone exactly what I take...no steroids.
Googled the ingredient panels, sure. What am I wrong about? If you did your research you'll have no problem showing where I'm wrong. ;)
So you're selling supplements now, is that what you're saying? I don't know how many people ordered those products and it's irrelevant anyway. Scam labeling, scam ingredients (BPI), potent hormones/drugs in the cases where they work (Somatomax), one interesting supplement with potential uses (D-AA) etc.
What you look like or what I look like has nothing to do with the points I made.
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He always has a meltdown in every thread in which someone posts pics - it's been happening for 5+ years now. I haven't posted a pic in over 4 years and never mention my physique, but am obviously deep inside his head.
Now watch out for the usual, recycled "I've hurt feelings" squadfather line of posts from WingedLion, lol
You mean the tired internet cliches that no one posts every time he addresses me? those ones?
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Googled the ingredient panels, sure. What am I wrong about? If you did your research you'll have no problem showing where I'm wrong. ;)
So you're selling supplements now, is that what you're saying? I don't know how many people ordered those products and it's irrelevant anyway. Scam labeling, scam ingredients (BPI), potent hormones/drugs in the cases where they work (Somatomax), one interesting supplement with potential uses (D-AA) etc.
What you look like or what I look like has nothing to do with the points I made.
Point is you didn't know dick about any of them...except D asoartic because that's common knowledge. ..
.but that didn't stop you from reading a few reviews online and now you "weigh in with your assessment" as if you know everything about everything. ....you didn't know they existed until I posted it.
Which brings me to my second point.. I practice what I preach...I'm not a fat pasty blowhard who passes himself off as a "guru"....that's the relevance
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You mean the tired internet cliches that no one posts every time he addresses me? those ones?
I'm cool with both of you, so not gonna butt in ;D
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this is not goodrum
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Superman necklace??? Really?? ugh :-X
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You mean the tired internet cliches that no one posts every time he addresses me? those ones?
your posts reek of hurt and anger. it pleases me greatly.
go take another pic of your arm in the bathroom mirror and post it up. it will make you feel better.
45 years old and posting up 'arm shots' for guys on a message board- talk about squeezing the most out of life. lol
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Vid shows much more clearly. Not just great arms but torso looks wide and big too.
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your posts reek of hurt and anger. it pleases me greatly.
go take another pic of your arm in the bathroom mirror and post it up. it will make you feel better.
45 years old and posting up 'arm shots' for guys on a message board- talk about squeezing the most out of life. lol
stalker alert ::)
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Vid shows much more clearly. Not just great arms but torso looks wide and big too.
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ahahahahahaha 45 and taking the time to make a youtube vid of himself 'posing' and 'flexing' for a bunch of men on a bodybuilding forum. nope, nothing odd, strange or latently homosexual about seeking the attention of other men by 'flexing' half clothed in a youtube vid.
if your main goal was to get attention here 'groink' you've done well. im sure every schmoe who lurks on this board is cracking one off to you as we speak. good job! ahahahahahahahahahahahah ahaha
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Point is you didn't know dick about any of them...except D asoartic because that's common knowledge. ..
.but that didn't stop you from reading a few reviews online and now you "weigh in with your assessment" as if you know everything about everything. ....you didn't know they existed until I posted it.
Which brings me to my second point.. I practice what I preach...I'm not a fat pasty blowhard who passes himself off as a "guru"....that's the relevance
Beta-phenyl-GABA I have used, way before you did most likely. Like more than 5 years ago when Patrick Arnold introduced it to the bodybuilding market. Mucuna Pruriens (L-Dopa) I have used, again many years ago. These are the potent drugs I referred to in the Somatomax product.
The BPI product I haven't used and wouldn't use... since the label immediately indicates it's a scam.
I haven't read a single review of those particular supplements. The points I made I knew before I looked up the ingredients.
I'm not a guru, as I always say, but I know a thing or two about supplements. No expert but relative to someone like yourself I may even know a lot.
Groink, is there anyone you consider an expert in the area of OTC supplements?
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stalker alert ::)
^ irony.
he addressed me. i replied. you on the other hand nobody was talking to, or about.
speaking of stalkers- nice work, dummy.
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kiwi and noone "supporting each other ..
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ahahahahahaha 45 and taking the time to make a youtube vid of himself 'posing' and 'flexing' for a bunch of men on a bodybuilding forum. nope, nothing odd, strange or latently homosexual about seeking the attention of other men by 'flexing' half clothed in a youtube vid.
if your main goal was to get attention here 'groink' you've done well. im sure every schmoe who lurks on this board is cracking one off to you as we speak. good job! ahahahahahahahahahahahah ahaha
LOL
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Actually way less impressive in the video than in pics. Pretty well offseason. Definitely has some size but no real pop to the muscle. Should diet down 25 lbs for his everyday look.
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People, people.. ::) Those of you saying that its basically impossible to gain a decent amount of size using no or very little hormones are dead wrong. And its very obvious the people with that opinion obviously haven't spent enough time lifting heavy ass weights in the gym either. They are the lesser individuals that lacked discipline and determination to grow, gave up natural training rather quickly out of impatience and despair, resorted to AAS right away and now are bitter and jealous of anyone who did what they were unable to do. Put your time in the gym (10 years+) with plenty of milk and food and size will come.
However, once you have used AAS its fairly easy to maintain a decent amount of the size you gained from using it, even years later with minimal maintenance training. Running hormones 1 or 2 months of the year has its advantages too but only if you keep training hard with lots of food which can sometimes seem like a waste of time. Muscle memory goes a long way too!
Visually, AAS gives muscles a certain quality that has a certain look to it that always stands out, so i'm surprised with all gh15s so called "experience" he doesnt have the ability to tell that Groink is not currently using hormones. Its as plain as day to see hes not.
look,, this posting above is rubbish
most serious bodybuild been to gym for 5-10 years some even more,,yes it is possible to build OK size as in 180lb 10% naturally ,,you will never be able to built anything better than 1 8 0 lb around 10% and i am not talking about no 5'7 here,,im talkin 5'9 5'10....so yes you can build some size ,,respectable size naturally that iwll put you insted of the average moron 165lb 8% ..it will put you 180lb 8-10% ,,thats it thats what you can build truly naturally ,,and you can go to gym day in day out ,,breaks no breaks eat your mama and papa ,,eat everything your granny cook ,,live with her and your parents do nothing but lifting,,ruin your social life,,do nothing but bodybuild,,be jobless and still NATURALLY truly naturally you will be standing 1 8 0 lb 10% and this is fellas with GOOD GENETICS! and with decent frames! that are very strong and lift for many years,,they all stuck naturaly at those numbers after 3-5 years of lifting naturally
i want you to read the above as many times as possible because this is REALITY AND THIS IS THE ABSOLIT TRUTH,,IF YOU DO SEE A FELLA 187LB 5'7 AND A HALF ...AND HE IS NATURALLY OR IF HE IS 196.5LB 5'8 AND NATURALLY THEY WILL ALWAYS BE HIGHER BODYFAT AS IN 15+ percent and in most cases EVEN THEY BEEN TO HORMONES IN THE PAST WHEN THEY TRIED TO BECOME A BODYBUILD AND GAVE UP MOMENT THEY SAW THEY ONLY GOT TO LOCAL LEVEL EVENTHOUGH THEY WERE ALREADY CYCLING AND JUST COULDNT KEEP WITH WHAT IT TAKE TO GET TO THE TOP... they usually give up on hormones because they say they dont have the genetics...in reality they didnt have the time on hormones needed and the discipline and ability to actually walk around 190lb 6% inorder to grow to 220lb 8% later on...and from there to 245lb 10% ...etc etc but true 10% at 245 not some fella that claim 10% and actualy 15-20% at 245lb... by the way for the last number i said 245 10% you wil HAVE TO USE GH AND INSULIN AND NOT IN SMALL DOSES,,IM TALKING HERE FINISH 10 IU VIALS ON REGULAR BASIS AND PUTTING THAT SLIN IN YOU ON A REGULAR BASIS..OFCOURSE YOUR PHYSIQE WILL SMOOTHEN UP AND YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO SHOW ENOUGH DETAIL LIKE TRUE NATURALS OR ONLY AAS USERS WITH MINIMAL GH USE THAT GO ON STAGE....THEY ALWAYS LOOK BETTER! because no insulin and thus less fat from within the muscle but this is a diff subject for another time
now since i dont want to write 5 postings here i will say what i think about groink here,,i will say exactly how it is and what it is,,since i actually watched the video now i didnt know there was vide,,
when you take a look at groink the first thing a real pro could tell is that this is a physiqe that is thick but lack sculpting ,,why? because groink still havent used hgh real hgh on a regular basis to create this sculpting im talking about,,
what a professional can tell is that his physiqe is SCREAMING testosterona ,,and by screaming i mean a....this fella is on good dose of testosterona ,,this is his culprit for his thickness,,now the thickness is not very quality if you notice the chest is very weak very very weak ,,and the skin is bloated but not gh bloat but testosterona bloat,,yes he is not 18% he is much less he is closer to 10% but! there is severe lack of detail mainly due to water retention as a result of LONGER ESTER TESTOSTERONA INTAKE AND RELAIBALE ON THAT TYPE OF TESTOSTERONA,,im talking here UNDERGROUND TESTOSTERONA NOT ONLY HUMAN GRADE BUT IN GENERAL LEGIT TESTOSTERONA,,the easiest way is to just get underground legit testosterona because it is dosed now day 350 400 sometime even 500 mg per cc ....so it is not much injections....
now, the skin is thick as i said from testosterona usage NOT FROM FAT!,, when you look at the lats from the back the upper part,,from both sides of the tank top you can actually see the bloofiness im talking about that is created from too much testosterona androgenic prospects,, when you look at the delt they are not as good as arms but yet present the thickness level ONLY hormonized lifter can hold especially at 5'9 and 5'10 ,,you dont get that thick from the side with out usage of hormones specifically testosterona...
so my conclusion with out a doubt this fella is on testosterona as culprit ,,it is in the blood on regular basis,,he is not lookign like he has much of the trenbolona masterona all those things,,he is very basic ,,testosterona and in a high enough dose to be able to maintain the thickness and mass,,again inorder to go on stage he need to lose quite a bit in this pic it is at the least 40lb and preferably being on hgh while doing it,,
his big advatage are his triceps ,,it will have wicked shape on stage,,and his arms in general will truly mesure 18 inch ON STAGE ,, this is his strong points and those are are indded big and indded better than many bodybuilder at the locla level,,
thats it
gh15 approved
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Vid shows much more clearly. Not just great arms but torso looks wide and big too.
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Damn.....I was holding a shit ton of water there.
its amazing to me the visual differences that water makes
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You come on here out of nowhere swinging your 19"+ cold & cut meatlogs, baskeball shoulders and Porterhouse pectoral techtonic plates... bully around twinks like "no one" and other muscle salivates... make them feel lesser men...
Just not very positive of you...
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
BOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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hey you dumpy, friendless, fat french bitch. nice of you to run to your boyfriends defence. he's like a lost puppy when your not around.
thank you also for making mention of me in your post. it shows you care.
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Actually way less impressive in the video than in pics. Pretty well offseason. Definitely has some size but no real pop to the muscle. Should diet down 25 lbs for his everyday look.
Again, people need to understand that this NOT a drug build physique.
This a natural, not a drug addict. I think it's highly fucking impressive for a natural to have this physique.
Not saying you but funny how the picless are the ones to run their fat mouth when if they were physique exposed here they would leave in shame.
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looks like you are contest-ready for your show
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looks like you are contest-ready for your show
living the dream right there- hiding in his garage taking 'pics' for the guys hoping to make one friend on the internet.
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^ irony.
he addressed me. i replied. you on the other hand nobody was talking to, or about.
speaking of stalkers- nice work, dummy.
how dumb lmao
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looks like you are contest-ready for your show
Ready for your mom.
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the meme lives
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how dumb lmao
wow, very clever.
fuck off, gimp.
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your posts reek of hurt and anger. it pleases me greatly.
go take another pic of your arm in the bathroom mirror and post it up. it will make you feel better.
45 years old and posting up 'arm shots' for guys on a message board- talk about squeezing the most out of life. lol
Yes...maybe I should up my game and go to bars to beat up people from Getbig ::)
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Ready for your mom.
Why not post this with your FatFriendlessAlex account chubby?
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ALEX YOU LOOK LEANER .. ARE YOU DIETING A LITTLE?
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Damn.....I was holding a shit ton of water there.
its amazing to me the visual differences that water makes
I don't see anything wrong with it mate.
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ALEX YOU LOOK LEANER .. ARE YOU DIETING A LITTLE?
nowhere near... eating everything in sight including "tendonitis"' mom's pastrami sandwich while he spins in his head thinking I'm every gimmick around the corner...
GodSpeed to Deltsaforce, honored that the picless think we're the same person.
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Yes...maybe I should up my game and go to bars to beat up people from Getbig ::)
you think in real life noone would step up to you?
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Don't sweat the small stuff
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hey you dumpy, friendless, fat french bitch. nice of you to run to your boyfriends defence. he's like a lost puppy when your not around.
thank you also for making mention of me in your post. it shows you care.
At least he doesn't post under a gimmick account to talk about his drug regiment he's on to "look good" for his "trip" to vegas on memorial weekend... bawawawawawawawawwa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yea we know "no one"... or should I say....
Rogers cable knows best :-X
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you think in real life noone would step up to you?
I'm not even going down that road. ;D
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At least he doesn't post under a gimmick account to talk about his drug regiment he's on to "look good" for his "trip" to vegas on memorial weekend... bawawawawawawawawwa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yea we know "no one"... or should I say....
Rogers cable knows best :-X
your a fucking idiot.
i dont have a 'gimmick' unlike you you fat bitch, as i dont take this place seriously enough to care to make one, unlike you who runs half a dozen. lots of time on your hands eh, chubby?
and, congrats on narrowing my cable provider down to the biggest cable provider in canada. some real sharp work there between you and josh. lol
ps, did i mention how much of a speedbag you are? ahahahahahahahah
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I'm not even going down that road. ;D
oh, so you afraid ;D
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You come on here out of nowhere swinging your 19"+ cold & cut meatlogs, baskeball shoulders and Porterhouse pectoral techtonic plates... bully around twinks like "no one" and other muscle salivates... make them feel lesser men...
Just not very positive of you...
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
BOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=371100.0;attach=407898)
HugeNasser/23 Approved.
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LOLOL. Like moths to the flame
Tell the big man I appreciate the advice... those are some Good training tips from the wizard....I did that routine yesterday and it was killer
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noone: you are sad unfunny and desperate ... just quit man ...
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oh, so you afraid ;D
terrified...he's like 260 lbs @ 8% BF...
I'm not CRAZY man
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you think in real life noone would step up to you?
i dont dislike groink enough to fight him. in fact i dont dislike him at all.
on the other hand, i really dislike alex. and would love to cave that fat fucks head in- and thats saying a lot cause irl im a real mild guy.
hope this helps, dirty 3rd world romainian. lol
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Huge alpha males shaking the heavens guided by the beautiful mastermind of muscle. :D
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noone: you are sad unfunny and desperate ... just quit man ...
Sev. .....were you "smashing your keyboard" when you posted this. ? :-[
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Don't sweat the small stuff
Believe me, no one is sweating your mother.
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terrified...he's like 260 lbs @ 8% BF...
I'm not CRAZY man
248 today, prolly 6+%.
in 8 more weeks i'll prolly be bone dry at 5% and 250+
listen, if you ever want to stop running your 1g test cycles and get creative with your stacks just let me know i'd be more than happy to help.
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i dont dislike groink enough to fight him. in fact i dont dislike him at all.
on the other hand, i really dislike alex. and would love to cave that fat fucks head in- and thats saying a lot cause irl im a real mild guy.
hope this helps, dirty 3rd world romainian. lol
I ca picture you all dazed and confused with a broken nose trying to pick yourself up from the floor lol
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Believe me, no one is sweating your mother.
still angry ...my apologies dude hahaha
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noone: you are sad unfunny and desperate [/b]... just quit man ...
^ yes. you're right. if i lived in a 3rd world country, believed reptiles are taking over the world, and that im a reincarnated cowboy i'd be that much cooler.
lol
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I ca picture you all dazed and confused with a broken nose trying to pick yourself up from the floor lol
i can picture myself all dazed and confused trying to pick myself up off your mom.
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noone = epic fail
erase your account and start over ...
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^ yes. you're right. if i lived in a 3rd world country, believed reptiles are taking over the world, and that im a reincarnated cowboy i'd be that much cooler.
lol
At least he doesn't pretend to have muscles on a BBing forum :)
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At least he doesn't pretend to have muscles on a BBing forum :)
at least i dont make it my job to make sure i post pics of my muscles for a bunch of guys on a bbing forum. :)
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noone = epic fail
erase your account and start over ...
wow. thats all you have left eh?
thanks for playing.
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if you'd have them you'd post them .. your frustration stems from lack of muscle and a strong inferiority complex
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you follow groink me and alex around like a bitch who's feeling dumped
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at least i dont make it my job to make sure i post pics of my muscles for a bunch of guys on a bbing forum. :)
that's because you don't have any
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i can picture myself all dazed and confused trying to pick myself up off your mom.
LOL. These mom jokes are never funny, but this one's aces! ;D
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noone: you are sad unfunny and desperate ... just quit man ...
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if you'd have them you'd post them .. your frustration stems from lack of muscle and a strong inferiority complex
good logic.
is that why you went up into the romainain hillside with your two buddies to take pics of each other shirtless seveatase? to show how masculine and alpha you are?
if anyone still has those pics- the ones with this fucking stupid romainian gaying up the place, leaning on the fence line shirtless while his friend photographs him feel free to post them up.
what a tool! LOL
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that's because you don't have any
a well thought out rebuttal, 'groink'.
your a credit to unemployed 45 year old muscle picture posters everywhere.
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Shouldn't Alex be dieting?
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Shouldn't Alex be dieting?
I think hes trying to pull a Levrone and "grow" into the contest.
Its a bold stategy cotton, well have to see how it works out for him. ;D
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a well thought out rebuttal, 'groink'.
your a credit to unemployed 45 year old muscle picture posters everywhere.
now I'm unemployed. ....LOLOL....you really are funny...but not in a good way
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now I'm unemployed. ....LOLOL....you really are funny...but not in a good way
Lololol the faceless is melting so intensively it's not even funny....
Soon to be exposed...his phoniness will make pumpster look like an olympian...
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hey you dumpy, friendless, fat french bitch.
LOL ;D
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I think hes trying to pull a Levrone and "grow" into the contest.
Its a bold stategy cotton, well have to see how it works out for him. ;D
He has 50lbs of fat to lose better not leave it too late to start.
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Lololol the faceless is melting so intensively it's not even funny....
Soon to be exposed...his phoniness will make pumpster look like an olympian...
Not to be a buttinski, but weren't you just preaching not that long ago about being positive and not taken it to seriously? Not starting shit, just an honest question.
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Not to be a buttinski, but weren't you just preaching not that long ago about being positive and not taken it to seriously? Not starting shit, just an honest question.
Outing people is his only tool to fight back .
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All superior genetics and decline close grip bench presses.
Don't worry about the haters Groink, either ya got it or ya ain't.
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no one post a pic u sorry cunt!!!! alex keeping it positive :) everyone owns ur ass !!
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CLASH OF THE TITANS!!!
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Insecurity must be a bitch. 8)
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248 today, prolly 6+%.
in 8 more weeks i'll prolly be bone dry at 5% and 250+
listen, if you ever want to stop running your 1g test cycles and get creative with your stacks just let me know i'd be more than happy to help.
Sorry but I don't take steroids....I showed everyone here exactly what shops I use
If I was on what you are on I would be in the 280s and look like a pro.
But I'm fine with the way I do look and take satisfaction in the the simple fact that my build doesn't come out of a bottle.
I make no moral stand on what people choose To put into their body...its just not for me, to me you guys are just junkies. ..always plotting your next cycle
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no one post a pic u sorry #girl!!!! alex keeping it positive :) everyone owns ur ass !!
LOL!!!!!!!
Ensuring that Charlatans like Pumpster, "DIVISION" and now "no one" do not trick getbiggers is part of my duties of POSITIVITY!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sorry but I don't take steroids....I showed everyone here exactly what shops I use
If I was on what you are on I would be in the 280s and look like a pro.
But I'm fine with the way I do look and take satisfaction in the the simple fact that my build doesn't come out of a bottle.
I make no moral stand on what people choose To put into their body...its just not for me, to me you guys are just junkies. ..always plotting your next cycle
it seems as if you have kind of drawn a line in the sand on where you stand, the junkie thing is a bit over the top though, but from the flack you have gotten in just this thread i can see why you would be on the offensive
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it seems as if you have kind of drawn a line in the sand on where you stand, the junkie thing is a bit over the top though, but from the flack you have gotten in just this thread i can see why you would be on the offensive
Yeah....that was kinda tacked on....wasn't sure about it but I said fuck it. ;D
I catch flack from a few douches. ...90% of the people here give positive feedback
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248 today, prolly 6+%.
in 8 more weeks i'll prolly be bone dry at 5% and 250+
listen, if you ever want to stop running your 1g test cycles and get creative with your stacks just let me know i'd be more than happy to help.
what do you run atm?
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Yeah....that was kinda tacked on....wasn't sure about it but I said fuck it. ;D
I catch flack from a few douches. ...90% of the people here give positive feedback
Has the 250lb 6% bf No One posted a pic yet?
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what do you run atm?
He runs his mouth ATM
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Sorry but I don't take steroids....I showed everyone here exactly what shops I use
If I was on what you are on I would be in the 280s and look like a pro.
But I'm fine with the way I do look and take satisfaction in the the simple fact that my build doesn't come out of a bottle.
I make no moral stand on what people choose To put into their body...its just not for me, to me you guys are just junkies. ..always plotting your next cycle
You just made a moral stand ???
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so... when are the new "more Gunnnnnssss" video's coming?
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nowhere near... eating everything in sight including "tendonitis"' mom's pastrami sandwich while he spins in his head thinking I'm every gimmick around the corner...
GodSpeed to Deltsaforce, honored that the picless think we're the same person.
What happened to all your hype about competing?? What about all the promises??
This is entirely not like u to back out of something u hyped for months and made gaurantees about?!?!?!
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Not to be a buttinski, but weren't you just preaching not that long ago about being positive and not taken it to seriously? Not starting shit, just an honest question.
Not to be a buttinski but you aren't exactly known as being adverse from a bit of instigating. You've been snapping at MattC as well but he won't bite. You love the drama hon.
What happened to all your hype about competing?? What about all the promises??
This is entirely not like u to back out of something u hyped for months and made gaurantees about?!?!?!
Not hating bro but you've had a 2 inch hard-on for K23 recently. Is since you pmed him, sucking up to him with some gay scenario where he supposedly outed you and posed your pic, he rejected and exposed you?
Awfully long time to stay butthurt and join the ranks of the Alex obsessed.
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Not to be a buttinski but you aren't exactly known as being adverse from a bit of instigating. You've been snapping at MattC as well but he won't bite. You love the drama hon.
Not hating bro but you've had a 2 inch hard-on for K23 recently. Is since you pmed him, sucking up to him with some gay scenario where he supposedly outed you and posed your pic, he rejected and exposed you?
Awfully long time to stay butthurt and join the ranks of the Alex obsessed.
Oh, yea, I made one post to him...Keep swinging DICKWAD, it's what your good at
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Oh, yea, I made one post to him...Keep swinging DICKWAD, it's what your good at
LOL... two minute respond with an insult. Point proved. Seriously though, hope life gets a bit more interesting for you and you can end the sick cycle of internet addiction. Will not engage with you further as I am just being an enabler and allowing you to life vicariously through a cyber medium and closing the door to the possibility of a real life.
STAY POSITIVE!
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LOL... two minute respond with an insult. Point proved. Seriously though, hope life gets a bit more interesting for you and you can end the sick cycle of internet addiction. Will not engage with you further as I am just being an enabler and allowing you to life vicariously through a cyber medium and closing the door to the possibility of a real life.
STAY POSITIVE!
Suck a dick
You got some set of clappers to talk about online bullshit and addiction.. Fucking cum dweller ;D
Fishtacospeed ASSHAT
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Not hating bro but you've had a 2 inch hard-on for K23 recently. Is since you pmed him, sucking up to him with some gay scenario where he supposedly outed you and posed your pic, he rejected and exposed you?
Awfully long time to stay butthurt and join the ranks of the Alex obsessed.
Umm incorrect on all your assumptions...but not surprising coming from a gimmick (a boring one at that)
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HAHAa
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Aspartic acid shows some promise for some applications.
Somatomax will work, but causes faster dependence with withdrawal symptoms than Xanax. Might as well take GHB. Nothing natural about this product.
Why you'd buy anything from the company making A-HD makes me wonder. You like putting unknown chemicals in your body? I guarantee that if it it "works" as you claim it contains undisclosed ingredients. Complete scam company on the level of GetItOnNY's company.
Now when are you going to come clean about the "HRT" which you consider natural and clean?
What does aspartic acid show some promise for?
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gh15 your input regarding the estimated BF level would be very appreciated, thanks
Great physique man, that would be my ideal...
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what do you run atm?
now im at 250mg prop e7d, 800mg tren cyclo e8d, 600mg masteron e8d and i was at 4iu of hyge but just bumped it to 6 today and added in t3 as well for the next 6 weeks or so.
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now im at 250mg prop e7d, 800mg tren cyclo e8d, 600mg masteron e8d and i was at 4iu of hyge but just bumped it to 6 today and added in t3 as well for the next 6 weeks or so.
stop being a queer and post a pic ..you gotta look at least half way decent running that shit regardless of genetics
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What does aspartic acid show some promise for?
I would try this if I was one who comes off steroids periodically. Would try it as part of post-cycle therapy. There's basically no other natural supplements that have been shown to definitely increase testosterone levels in normal healthy humans.
In Italy it's a drug used for increasing sperm count.
http://www.pharmaguida.com/eng/dadavit.asp
The test increase is significant, though not so large that it would be a 'muscle growing compound' IMO. I can see it helping in restoring test production after steroid cycles though.
(http://www.ergo-log.com/plaatjes/daspartaattest.gif)
http://www.rbej.com/content/7/1/120
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I would try this if I was one who comes off steroids periodically. Would try it as part of post-cycle therapy. There's basically no other natural supplements that have been shown to definitely increase testosterone levels in normal healthy humans.
In Italy it's a drug used for increasing sperm count.
http://www.pharmaguida.com/eng/dadavit.asp
The test increase is significant, though not so large that it would be a 'muscle growing compound' IMO. I can see it helping in restoring test production after steroid cycles though.
(http://www.ergo-log.com/plaatjes/daspartaattest.gif)
http://www.rbej.com/content/7/1/120
whats in your opinion on suplements like novedex (the old formula) and vitrix? do they fit in the "not natural" category or do they boost no testosterone at all?
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whats in your opinion on suplements like novedex (the old formula) and vitrix? do they fit in the "not natural" category or do they boost no testosterone at all?
Novedex was a drug from my perspective. Steroidal aromatase inhibitor. It appeared to raise test quite dramatically. The T elevations are so large that to me it looks like they are too good to be true. The principal ingredient has been shown to cross-react with testosterone when some assay methods are used i.e. the steroidal AI looks like Test on the assay. I suspect something like this is going on. Plus it reduces GH levels by 50%! Also possibly an anti-androgen.
There is no solid evidence Vitrix does anything at all. There is no herbal that has been proven to raise test.
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Novedex was a drug from my perspective. Steroidal aromatase inhibitor. It appeared to raise test quite dramatically. The T elevations are so large that to me it looks like they are too good to be true. The principal ingredient has been shown to cross-react with testosterone when some assay methods are used i.e. the steroidal AI looks like Test on the assay. I suspect something like this is going on. Plus it reduces GH levels by 50%! Also possibly an anti-androgen.
There is no solid evidence Vitrix does anything at all. There is no herbal that has been proven to raise test.
wow 50% of GH reduction is not good at all, any other suplement or steroid that have a similar effect on natural GH production?
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im one of the bigger guys on this forum as well but i never brag about, dont think its relevant.
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im one of the bigger guys on this forum as well but i never brag about, dont think its relevant.
Thats right stud, only thing relevant is your charming sense of humor and cute ass.
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wow 50% of GH reduction is not good at all, any other suplement or steroid that have a similar effect on natural GH production?
Anabolic steroids usually increase GH production. The anti-estrogens often reduce GH and IGF-1. The curious thing with Novedex XT is that it actually didn't reduce estrogen levels, but increased one type of estrogen! That's per the Gaspari sponsored study. So here you have an OTC anti-estrogen that doesn't reduce estrogen, reduces GH by 50%, is possibly and anti-androgen blocking the effects of testosterone, and where the Test elevations are suspect. ::) :D
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Thats right stud, only thing relevant is your charming sense of humor and cute ass.
;D
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Anabolic steroids usually increase GH production. The anti-estrogens often reduce GH and IGF-1. The curious thing with Novedex XT is that it actually didn't reduce estrogen levels, but increased one type of estrogen! That's per the Gaspari sponsored study. So here you have an OTC anti-estrogen that doesn't reduce estrogen, reduces GH by 50%, is possibly and anti-androgen blocking the effects of testosterone, and where the Test elevations are suspect. ::) :D
I know guys that suposedly had good gains with it though!
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so... when are the new "more Gunnnnnssss" video's coming?
Sadly there won’t be any videos.
Per federal law Groink can’t own or operate guns of any kind.
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The fuck was this bumped for?
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Arms look like fatceps not biceps btw