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Title: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 04, 2011, 07:41:52 PM
220 lbs here

adding GH at 5iu a soon as I get it
adding some testosterona back on
with insulona 2 times per day, highest dose I can take without dropping on the floor from lack of carbs

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=367574.0;attach=412502;image)
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: wes on May 04, 2011, 07:45:41 PM
Looking large and in charge my son!
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Hulkotron on May 04, 2011, 07:47:02 PM
No offense Stav but your legs look thinner than the bar there.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 04, 2011, 07:48:38 PM
No offense Stav but your legs look thinner than the bar there.

how can you see how thin my legs are with my pants on  8)

(for the homos, I didn't drop the pants cause I had no underwear on)
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: njflex on May 04, 2011, 07:56:45 PM
lean and vascular,bring it on,,,,
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on May 04, 2011, 08:11:53 PM
220 lbs here

adding GH at 5iu a soon as I get it
adding some testosterona back on
with insulona 2 times per day, highest dose I can take without dropping on the floor from lack of carbs

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=367574.0;attach=412502;image)
Amazing man... i am 20 lbs lighter then you right now with bf 5-7% pts higher then you... im jealous. How do you do it?
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: gh15 on May 04, 2011, 08:28:12 PM
lean and big,,good picture,,arms look better than ever

you have potential to go far in bodybuilding,,dont add too much insulina ,,do it 80s and 90s way ,,this is very good physiqe,,you are pretty much 6-8% ,,you are ready to blwo up

gh15 approved
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: gh15 on May 04, 2011, 08:30:01 PM
wait a second ,,you are 220 lb there? i thought you went down to 200lb? is this older picture or current?
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Meso_z on May 04, 2011, 09:57:52 PM
220 lbs here

adding GH at 5iu a soon as I get it
adding some testosterona back on
with insulona 2 times per day, highest dose I can take without dropping on the floor from lack of carbs

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=367574.0;attach=412502;image)
wow man..impressive.  :o

I didnt knew you could look that good dieted down with only one compound..
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: no one on May 04, 2011, 10:07:07 PM
220 lbs here

adding GH at 5iu a soon as I get it
adding some testosterona back on
with insulona 2 times per day, highest dose I can take without dropping on the floor from lack of carbs

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=367574.0;attach=412502;image)

you running tren stav? got a real tren look to you- the type of hardness and the look of density that only tren can give.

you look great bro. slap on some good lean weight and keep your bf low. a lot of potential here for sure.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Spike on May 04, 2011, 10:32:56 PM
good luck stav


keep us posted to

like god said - layer upon layer ;)
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 04, 2011, 10:33:45 PM
220 lbs here

adding GH at 5iu a soon as I get it
adding some testosterona back on
with insulona 2 times per day, highest dose I can take without dropping on the floor from lack of carbs

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=367574.0;attach=412502;image)

  You are completely crazy. And I mean this with total sincerity. You are actually going to inject insulin for bodybuilding purposes? Good luck with that. I just hope you don't make some mistake otherwise you will end with irreversible brain damage for life. You are going to take it to the next level and take a pro's cycle even though you don't have hundreds of thousands or even millions of Dollars in endorsement contracts on the line. So for what? To impress your buddies in the gym? I am saying this because women don't like the physiques that result from mega doses of anabolics. And I assure you that taking steroids with GH and insulin will sap 30 years from your life. That is garanteed. So basically, you are going to lose decades of your life and potentially go blind and diabetic, with kidney and liver failure and a deformed cranium just so that you can be the biggest guy in the gym? Pretty terrible trade-off if you ask me.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: notsureifsrs on May 04, 2011, 10:34:02 PM
woah looking tight and hard
getting everything you wrote above and you gonna do some real damage at the scene
keep it up!
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 04, 2011, 10:51:30 PM
wait a second ,,you are 220 lb there? i thought you went down to 200lb? is this older picture or current?

I was 195 3 weeks ago, depleted.
I didn't eat enough

I add 2 cups of carbs at every meal + 1 cheat meal a day

made me gain back my muscle a little bit !
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 04, 2011, 10:53:40 PM
you running tren stav? got a real tren look to you- the type of hardness and the look of density that only tren can give.

you look great bro. slap on some good lean weight and keep your bf low. a lot of potential here for sure.

I stopped tren 2 weeks ago but I still have some in my systeme for sure as it was enanthate !

I needed to stop it, I couldn't sleep at all 2 weeks ago  ;D

I am talking 1h a night or so haha
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 04, 2011, 10:57:20 PM
Amazing man... i am 20 lbs lighter then you right now with bf 5-7% pts higher then you... im jealous. How do you do it?

lot of drugs and food and I train 2 times a day !  ;D

I love training 2 times a day, I gain better this way IMO

and I feel pumped all the time
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: dogma5914 on May 04, 2011, 11:18:07 PM
Cat is about to blow up for sure man.  :)

Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Game Time on May 04, 2011, 11:22:00 PM
 You are completely crazy. And I mean this with total sincerity. You are actually going to inject insulin for bodybuilding purposes? Good luck with that. I just hope you don't make some mistake otherwise you will end with irreversible brain damage for life. You are going to take it to the next level and take a pro's cycle even though you don't have hundreds of thousands or even millions of Dollars in endorsement contracts on the line. So for what? To impress your buddies in the gym? I am saying this because women don't like the physiques that result from mega doses of anabolics. And I assure you that taking steroids with GH and insulin will sap 30 years from your life. That is garanteed. So basically, you are going to lose decades of your life and potentially go blind and diabetic, with kidney and liver failure and a deformed cranium just so that you can be the biggest guy in the gym? Pretty terrible trade-off if you ask me.

SUCKMYMUSCLECOCK

STFU!!! Don't doubt the truth. This man will double in size and you will remain a tiny tit
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Schmoe Buster on May 04, 2011, 11:36:47 PM
STFU!!! Don't doubt the truth. This man will double in size and you will remain a tiny tit

X2
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: g101 on May 04, 2011, 11:40:34 PM
suckmycock

haha!
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: efanhowz on May 04, 2011, 11:43:42 PM
Stav looking huge
Do you believe in taking breaks from Cycling to refresh body and start with "new receptors" for the next cycle?
Or are you at a point where if you come off completely that you will shrink?
Livin the dream
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: g101 on May 04, 2011, 11:46:37 PM
"new receptors"

lmao!
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Emmortal on May 05, 2011, 12:03:45 AM
 You are completely crazy. And I mean this with total sincerity. You are actually going to inject insulin for bodybuilding purposes? Good luck with that. I just hope you don't make some mistake otherwise you will end with irreversible brain damage for life. You are going to take it to the next level and take a pro's cycle even though you don't have hundreds of thousands or even millions of Dollars in endorsement contracts on the line. So for what? To impress your buddies in the gym? I am saying this because women don't like the physiques that result from mega doses of anabolics. And I assure you that taking steroids with GH and insulin will sap 30 years from your life. That is garanteed. So basically, you are going to lose decades of your life and potentially go blind and diabetic, with kidney and liver failure and a deformed cranium just so that you can be the biggest guy in the gym? Pretty terrible trade-off if you ask me.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Shut the fuck up lieutenant.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Theoak* on May 05, 2011, 12:12:08 AM
gh15 should stavios start seo on his arms now before palumbosim takes effect?
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 05, 2011, 12:42:27 AM
  Stavios will die of insulin shock, and then you phaggots will regret supporting his action for the rest of your miserable lives.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: The.Giant on May 05, 2011, 12:58:36 AM
lot of drugs and food and I train 2 times a day !  ;D

I love training 2 times a day, I gain better this way IMO

and I feel pumped all the time

what's your 2 a day split like?
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Benoitlapierre on May 05, 2011, 01:00:05 AM
 You are completely crazy. And I mean this with total sincerity. You are actually going to inject insulin for bodybuilding purposes? Good luck with that. I just hope you don't make some mistake otherwise you will end with irreversible brain damage for life. You are going to take it to the next level and take a pro's cycle even though you don't have hundreds of thousands or even millions of Dollars in endorsement contracts on the line. So for what? To impress your buddies in the gym? I am saying this because women don't like the physiques that result from mega doses of anabolics. And I assure you that taking steroids with GH and insulin will sap 30 years from your life. That is garanteed. So basically, you are going to lose decades of your life and potentially go blind and diabetic, with kidney and liver failure and a deformed cranium just so that you can be the biggest guy in the gym? Pretty terrible trade-off if you ask me.

SUCKMYMUSCLE


not at all ,, it's fun !!!!!!!!!

women love monster not many but the one who like it ,  they come to you , you do nothing , th fitness in shape model intimidate women n guy end alone too pretty ,, a monster they say hello n jump on you ,, true fact

DIE FOR MASS < DIE FOR GLORY , liver failure til death , testosterone th nectar of life , better live passionate then die old boring , lame without success torn in th mediocrity of th traditional citizen , go for broke , sacrifice for all

 stavios have th relentheless passion , th i dont give a fuck about future attitude, it about now n huge , RESULT !

this is th real life , clarity , insanity , emancipation , self destruction , diversity , colourful and empirical

 you die young but damn i fuck 4 times a day , 25 til 35 yo , i bang slut til quirt like no tomorow on enanthate i can now go in hell i live th sin lust paradise in pussy n squat rack for more then a decade

it was purely awesome , th chemical life is quite a adventure not for wimps , not for loosers , but for hero

hero of weight , pounds , reps , and deadlift til puke in agony

 shed blood n tears til 3,4%bf , step on stage grainy , dysfunctional , delusional, mind over war in victory


 stavios live th bbing at 300mph or just get th fuck out

 
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: mass243 on May 05, 2011, 01:24:43 AM
Great physique! Time to gain another 20 pounds  8)

But is it really necessary to use insulin at this point?
Wouldn't loads of anabolics and gh-ona bring enough gains  ???
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Schmoe Buster on May 05, 2011, 01:28:04 AM

not at all ,, it's fun !!!!!!!!!

women love monster not many but the one who like it ,  they come to you , you do nothing , th fitness in shape model intimidate women n guy end alone too pretty ,, a monster they say hello n jump on you ,, true fact

DIE FOR MASS < DIE FOR GLORY , liver failure til death , testosterone th nectar of life , better live passionate then die old boring , lame without success torn in th mediocrity of th traditional citizen , go for broke , sacrifice for all

 stavios have th relentheless passion , th i dont give a fuck about future attitude, it about now n huge , RESULT !

this is th real life , clarity , insanity , emancipation , self destruction , diversity , colourful and empirical

 you die young but damn i fuck 4 times a day , 25 til 35 yo , i bang slut til quirt like no tomorow on enanthate i can now go in hell i live th sin lust paradise in pussy n squat rack for more then a decade

it was purely awesome , th chemical life is quite a adventure not for wimps , not for loosers , but for hero

hero of weight , pounds , reps , and deadlift til puke in agony

 shed blood n tears til 3,4%bf , step on stage grainy , dysfunctional , delusional, mind over war in victory


 stavios live th bbing at 300mph or just get th fuck out

 

Amen brother, thats the way to go ;)
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: gh15 on May 05, 2011, 02:11:30 AM
Great physique! Time to gain another 20 pounds  8)

But is it really necessary to use insulin at this point?
Wouldn't loads of anabolics and gh-ona bring enough gains  ???

yes,, dont you see size he put from the insulina he used? he didnt use high dose....but he gained some size,,you can see he start blowing up from within already...need insulina and hgh on regular basis,,

i still dont see 220,,maybe,,i see 200-205lb or around,,also very hard to estimate body fat,,look like 6-7 but i think its little higher but hold low water...its that gym light hitting the tann  that enhance this picture but still this is close to mid singles ,,you also have good skin tone which is due to lwoer water retention so you did good with the testosterona

in any case very good

gh15 approved
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: wes on May 05, 2011, 02:12:26 AM

not at all ,, it's fun !!!!!!!!!

women love monster not many but the one who like it ,  they come to you , you do nothing , th fitness in shape model intimidate women n guy end alone too pretty ,, a monster they say hello n jump on you ,, true fact

DIE FOR MASS < DIE FOR GLORY , liver failure til death , testosterone th nectar of life , better live passionate then die old boring , lame without success torn in th mediocrity of th traditional citizen , go for broke , sacrifice for all

 stavios have th relentheless passion , th i dont give a fuck about future attitude, it about now n huge , RESULT !

this is th real life , clarity , insanity , emancipation , self destruction , diversity , colourful and empirical

 you die young but damn i fuck 4 times a day , 25 til 35 yo , i bang slut til quirt like no tomorow on enanthate i can now go in hell i live th sin lust paradise in pussy n squat rack for more then a decade

it was purely awesome , th chemical life is quite a adventure not for wimps , not for loosers , but for hero

hero of weight , pounds , reps , and deadlift til puke in agony

 shed blood n tears til 3,4%bf , step on stage grainy , dysfunctional , delusional, mind over war in victory


 stavios live th bbing at 300mph or just get th fuck out

 
This fucking guy`s a trip !  ;D
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: DK II on May 05, 2011, 02:33:21 AM
  Stavios will die of insulin shock, and then you phaggots will regret supporting his action for the rest of your miserable lives.

SUCKMYMUSCLE


Just STFU already, "mom".
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: OTHstrong on May 05, 2011, 02:51:57 AM
  Stavios will die of insulin shock, and then you phaggots will regret supporting his action for the rest of your miserable lives.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Maybe he will, but 20 years from now you will still be running your yap telling the new generation of bodybuilder, "Don't do it, you might die.... be like me instead, a man without a life that has been on getbig for the last 25 years looking at bodybuilders with envy and jealousy, please don't do it man." That's his thing and your thing is to rant on getbig all day long but your life is better right? ::)
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: pellius on May 05, 2011, 02:58:11 AM
 You are completely crazy. And I mean this with total sincerity. You are actually going to inject insulin for bodybuilding purposes? Good luck with that. I just hope you don't make some mistake otherwise you will end with irreversible brain damage for life. You are going to take it to the next level and take a pro's cycle even though you don't have hundreds of thousands or even millions of Dollars in endorsement contracts on the line. So for what? To impress your buddies in the gym? I am saying this because women don't like the physiques that result from mega doses of anabolics. And I assure you that taking steroids with GH and insulin will sap 30 years from your life. That is garanteed. So basically, you are going to lose decades of your life and potentially go blind and diabetic, with kidney and liver failure and a deformed cranium just so that you can be the biggest guy in the gym? Pretty terrible trade-off if you ask me.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Please die already. Nobody here respects you or cares what you think or say. You're a self absorbed, delusional moron. All you try to do is impress others with your phony never backed up claims. You pollute this board and stink it up  with your presence. Pupil Stavios poops turds that smell better than you.
 
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: pellius on May 05, 2011, 02:59:22 AM
  Stavios will die of insulin shock, and then you phaggots will regret supporting his action for the rest of your miserable lives.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

The only think we regret is that we have to share the same planet as you.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: pellius on May 05, 2011, 03:01:26 AM
Stav, what kind of gh are you using? Also, I think gh15 should be more specific with your insulin protocol so you don't F yourself up.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: OTHstrong on May 05, 2011, 03:05:53 AM

not at all ,, it's fun !!!!!!!!!

women love monster not many but the one who like it ,  they come to you , you do nothing , th fitness in shape model intimidate women n guy end alone too pretty ,, a monster they say hello n jump on you ,, true fact

DIE FOR MASS < DIE FOR GLORY , liver failure til death , testosterone th nectar of life , better live passionate then die old boring , lame without success torn in th mediocrity of th traditional citizen , go for broke , sacrifice for all

 stavios have th relentheless passion , th i dont give a fuck about future attitude, it about now n huge , RESULT !

this is th real life , clarity , insanity , emancipation , self destruction , diversity , colourful and empirical

 you die young but damn i fuck 4 times a day , 25 til 35 yo , i bang slut til quirt like no tomorow on enanthate i can now go in hell i live th sin lust paradise in pussy n squat rack for more then a decade

it was purely awesome , th chemical life is quite a adventure not for wimps , not for loosers , but for hero

hero of weight , pounds , reps , and deadlift til puke in agony

 shed blood n tears til 3,4%bf , step on stage grainy , dysfunctional , delusional, mind over war in victory


 stavios live th bbing at 300mph or just get th fuck out

 
Bodybuilding and Shakespeare ;D
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: mesmorph78 on May 05, 2011, 04:49:18 AM

 You are completely crazy. And I mean this with total sincerity. You are actually going to inject insulin for bodybuilding purposes? Good luck with that. I just hope you don't make some mistake otherwise you will end with irreversible brain damage for life. You are going to take it to the next level and take a pro's cycle even though you don't have hundreds of thousands or even millions of Dollars in endorsement contracts on the line. So for what? To impress your buddies in the gym? I am saying this because women don't like the physiques that result from mega doses of anabolics. And I assure you that taking steroids with GH and insulin will sap 30 years from your life. That is garanteed. So basically, you are going to lose decades of your life and potentially go blind and diabetic, with kidney and liver failure and a deformed cranium just so that you can be the biggest guy in the gym? Pretty terrible trade-off if you ask me.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Best post so far...
You already have a great physique already big by normal standards
Beautiful wife ...
You seem like a personable guy

Wish you the best but i think the drugs route is a bad descision
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 05, 2011, 04:57:20 AM
what's your 2 a day split like?

monday morning: chest + 10 sets of 15-20 of triceps pushdown
monday evening: quads + calves

tuesday morning: back + 10 sets of 15-20 cable curl
tuesday evening: hams + calves

wednesday morning: shoulders-traps + abs
wednesday evening: arms

tuesday: off

friday morning: back (more lower back and rowing movements) + abs
friday evening: shoulders


saturday morning: whole legs in giant sets work
saturday evening: arms in giants sets
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 05, 2011, 05:00:25 AM
Stav, what kind of gh are you using? Also, I think gh15 should be more specific with your insulin protocol so you don't F yourself up.

right now I don't use any but those I am waiting for are some red tops.. no money for better GH for now

but I had decent results with this dude's gh before so I trust him
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: affeman on May 05, 2011, 05:08:59 AM
monday morning: chest + 10 sets of 15-20 of triceps pushdown
monday evening: quads + calves

tuesday morning: back + 10 sets of 15-20 cable curl
tuesday evening: hams + calves

wednesday morning: shoulders-traps + abs
wednesday evening: arms

tuesday: off

friday morning: back (more lower back and rowing movements) + abs
friday evening: shoulders


saturday morning: whole legs in giant sets work
saturday evening: arms in giants sets

Holy shit, that's all I gotta say. Now I know what u need all those drugs for.

Do you have any other hobbies, friends, job, life? You must live in the gym literally.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Deicide on May 05, 2011, 05:09:58 AM
Vive le reve, mon frere!
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: affeman on May 05, 2011, 05:12:24 AM
Vive le reve, mon frere!

C'est la vie putain.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: breakmore on May 05, 2011, 05:21:15 AM
Good luck.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Meso_z on May 05, 2011, 05:34:53 AM
You should do the show man...it will add to your experience..then start your lean mass phase..
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 05, 2011, 05:51:23 AM
Holy shit, that's all I gotta say. Now I know what u need all those drugs for.

Do you have any other hobbies, friends, job, life? You must live in the gym literally.

well in the morning it only takes me about 1h15 so I get up a little bit earlier before work, and in the evening my girlfriend comes with me to  the gym so she doesn'T complain about  that ( and even if she did I don't give a shit)

doesn't take much time really, I just go to the gym instead of watching TV like most people do


from 8h30 to 16h30 I am at work and friday nigh and saturday night I work at the club from 9pm to 4h30 am  ( the second job is what takes most of my time honnestly, it really fucks up the week-end
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: makaveli25 on May 05, 2011, 06:05:23 AM
looking awesome man. Thats a lot of work!
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: chunkramwell on May 05, 2011, 07:10:54 AM
Stay safe brother! We will pray for you.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: local hero on May 05, 2011, 08:06:24 AM

not at all ,, it's fun !!!!!!!!!

women love monster not many but the one who like it ,  they come to you , you do nothing , th fitness in shape model intimidate women n guy end alone too pretty ,, a monster they say hello n jump on you ,, true fact

DIE FOR MASS < DIE FOR GLORY , liver failure til death , testosterone th nectar of life , better live passionate then die old boring , lame without success torn in th mediocrity of th traditional citizen , go for broke , sacrifice for all

 stavios have th relentheless passion , th i dont give a fuck about future attitude, it about now n huge , RESULT !

this is th real life , clarity , insanity , emancipation , self destruction , diversity , colourful and empirical

 you die young but damn i fuck 4 times a day , 25 til 35 yo , i bang slut til quirt like no tomorow on enanthate i can now go in hell i live th sin lust paradise in pussy n squat rack for more then a decade

it was purely awesome , th chemical life is quite a adventure not for wimps , not for loosers , but for hero

hero of weight , pounds , reps , and deadlift til puke in agony

 shed blood n tears til 3,4%bf , step on stage grainy , dysfunctional , delusional, mind over war in victory


 stavios live th bbing at 300mph or just get th fuck out

 

great post!
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Trev on May 05, 2011, 08:07:36 AM
220 lbs here

adding GH at 5iu a soon as I get it
adding some testosterona back on
with insulona 2 times per day, highest dose I can take without dropping on the floor from lack of carbs

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=367574.0;attach=412502;image)


All that risk to get 5th in an amateur show!
Put on 10 pounds of fat, go natural and enjoy bodybuilding into your '80's mate. Time is too precious to risk this shit unless you have the genetics to turn pro.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 05, 2011, 08:23:02 AM

All that risk to get 5th in an amateur show!
Put on 10 pounds of fat, go natural and enjoy bodybuilding into your '80's mate. Time is too precious to risk this shit unless you have the genetics to turn pro.

I never got the whole hype of living into your 80's lol

being in your 80's fucking suck, you are old and sick and too tired to d shit most of the time

why not do whatever the fuck I want right now while I am young and full of life
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: affeman on May 05, 2011, 08:35:52 AM
I never got the whole hype of living into your 80's lol

being in your 80's fucking suck, you are old and sick and too tired to d shit most of the time

why not do whatever the fuck I want right now while I am young and full of life

Dude, we're not talking about 80s. With the amount of chemicals you're putting in your body we rather talk about 60s, maybe even 50s if you're unlucky.

What for? Get an education and set yourself better goals in life than just increasing muscle and lose fat, which ruins your health, consumes all of your day and money while nobody is giving a flying fuck except for yourself.

You're not even that ugly (no homo), why do you have such a destructive attitude to life. Most guys acting like you are the really ugly MoFos, or the short ones, who have a shortcoming they need to overcompensate by any means.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Trev on May 05, 2011, 08:36:54 AM
I never got the whole hype of living into your 80's lol

being in your 80's fucking suck, you are old and sick and too tired to d shit most of the time

why not do whatever the fuck I want right now while I am young and full of life

Your life view will change my friend if you are one of the lucky ones to survive putting all this shit in your body!
80 years old when you get there will be like 60 today - worth a thought ...  ;)
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Shockwave on May 05, 2011, 08:37:43 AM
I never got the whole hype of living into your 80's lol

being in your 80's fucking suck, you are old and sick and too tired to d shit most of the time

why not do whatever the fuck I want right now while I am young and full of life
Agree.
I dont understand people when they get on about that shit...

The years of your life that steroids, drugs, alcohol, etc, take from you, are the SHITTY years where youre can barely walk, shitting yourself, pissing yourself, and requiring people to help you do as simple a task as feed yourself.Plus there is no guarantee that you wont develop something crazy like alzeirmers or cancer and die anyway.
My theory. Enjoy your life now, as there is no guarantee that if you live your life totally clean and pure, that youll even reach that age.
Why waste the prime of your life avoiding things that make you happy, in the hope that you tack 10 years on to the shittiest part of your life.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: affeman on May 05, 2011, 08:45:03 AM
Agree.
I dont understand people when they get on about that shit...

The years of your life that steroids, drugs, alcohol, etc, take from you, are the SHITTY years where youre can barely walk, shitting yourself, pissing yourself, and requiring people to help you do as simple a task as feed yourself.Plus there is no guarantee that you wont develop something crazy like alzeirmers or cancer and die anyway.
My theory. Enjoy your life now, as there is no guarantee that if you live your life totally clean and pure, that youll even reach that age.
Why waste the prime of your life avoiding things that make you happy, in the hope that you tack 10 years on to the shittiest part of your life.

It all depends. My Grandpa is in his 80s, loaded beyond imagination, and fit like a guy in his 50s. He's travelling the world, still riding his bike, playing tennis, drives bigwig cars and enjoys life with his wife on his huge mansion or at one of his holiday apartments. Still he is politically active in several unions etc.

I guarantee you that this man is having the time of his life in his pension. It's all about how you age. This whole "pissing yourself, shitting yourself" cliche BS helps destructive nobodies like yourself or Stavios to justify their abuse. You're just mad at the world and don't have the world to offer anything, that's why the world doesn't give a shit about you, and that's why life doesn't mean anything to you. Sad but true.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 05, 2011, 08:53:45 AM
Your life view will change my friend if you are one of the lucky ones to survive putting all this shit in your body!
80 years old when you get there will be like 60 today - worth a thought ...  ;)
Like I said many times before on here:

my fdad never drank, never did drugs, and kept saving money for his retirement so he could make trips and etc.

in his late 40's he got SUPER sick, almost died, now he is always too tired to make anything, he goes to sleep right after work.

he lost a lot of his money because my parents divorced and had to give half to my mom.


wow.. YEARS of saving up for the futur for what now ?

I spoke a lot with him and he agreed  that if he had to do it all over again, he would do everything he wants when he wants to do it and when he had the health
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: mesmorph78 on May 05, 2011, 08:54:00 AM
I never got the whole hype of living into your 80's lol

being in your 80's fucking suck, you are old and sick and too tired to d shit most of the time

why not do whatever the fuck I want right now while I am young and full of life

tom prince and mike matazzaro had this view too
to quote matazzaro he said post heart triple by ass
i wish i had continued driving my delivery truck...
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 05, 2011, 08:55:07 AM
I guarantee you that this man is having the time of his life in his pension. It's all about how you age. This whole "pissing yourself, shitting yourself" cliche BS helps destructive nobodies like yourself or Stavios to justify their abuse. You're just mad at the world and don't have the world to offer anything, that's why the world doesn't give a shit about you, and that's why life doesn't mean anything to you. Sad but true.

WTF !

I don't "hate" the world ??

I just like to do whatever the fuck I want that makes me happy

to each his own
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Hulkotron on May 05, 2011, 08:57:04 AM
STFU!!! Don't doubt the truth. This man will double in size and you will remain a tiny tit

x3 suckmymuscle shut up please
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Deicide on May 05, 2011, 08:58:56 AM
Roids all the way!
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Trev on May 05, 2011, 08:59:30 AM
Like I said many times before on here:

my fdad never drank, never did drugs, and kept saving money for his retirement so he could make trips and etc.

in his late 40's he got SUPER sick, almost died, now he is always too tired to make anything, he goes to sleep right after work.

he lost a lot of his money because my parents divorced and had to give half to my mom.


wow.. YEARS of saving up for the futur for what now ?

I spoke a lot with him and he agreed  that if he had to do it all over again, he would do everything he wants when he wants to do it and when he had the health


There you go, your Dad gave you your genes and he nearly died in his 40's without the drugs!!! Gives you about 5 years tops then. ENJOY  ;)
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: delta9mda on May 05, 2011, 09:05:45 AM
all the STAV haters on here. fuck? let him be juiced to the gills and do what he wants. STAV, hit it hard. just make sure to have that honey bear enema ready for the "insulin shock".  ::)
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: lesaucer on May 05, 2011, 09:11:37 AM

not at all ,, it's fun !!!!!!!!!

women love monster not many but the one who like it ,  they come to you , you do nothing , th fitness in shape model intimidate women n guy end alone too pretty ,, a monster they say hello n jump on you ,, true fact

DIE FOR MASS < DIE FOR GLORY , liver failure til death , testosterone th nectar of life , better live passionate then die old boring , lame without success torn in th mediocrity of th traditional citizen , go for broke , sacrifice for all

 stavios have th relentheless passion , th i dont give a fuck about future attitude, it about now n huge , RESULT !

this is th real life , clarity , insanity , emancipation , self destruction , diversity , colourful and empirical

 you die young but damn i fuck 4 times a day , 25 til 35 yo , i bang slut til quirt like no tomorow on enanthate i can now go in hell i live th sin lust paradise in pussy n squat rack for more then a decade

it was purely awesome , th chemical life is quite a adventure not for wimps , not for loosers , but for hero

hero of weight , pounds , reps , and deadlift til puke in agony

 shed blood n tears til 3,4%bf , step on stage grainy , dysfunctional , delusional, mind over war in victory


 stavios live th bbing at 300mph or just get th fuck out

 

BOOOOOOOOOOMMM!!

die for mass!! slin coma!! TEST overdose!! Tren cough till death!!!!!! bodybuilding 101, baby!
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Shockwave on May 05, 2011, 09:27:40 AM
It all depends. My Grandpa is in his 80s, loaded beyond imagination, and fit like a guy in his 50s. He's travelling the world, still riding his bike, playing tennis, drives bigwig cars and enjoys life with his wife on his huge mansion or at one of his holiday apartments. Still he is politically active in several unions etc.

I guarantee you that this man is having the time of his life in his pension. It's all about how you age. This whole "pissing yourself, shitting yourself" cliche BS helps destructive nobodies like yourself or Stavios to justify their abuse. You're just mad at the world and don't have the world to offer anything, that's why the world doesn't give a shit about you, and that's why life doesn't mean anything to you. Sad but true.
Wow. Way to pretty much fail at everything you hypothesized.
The point of my post was to go do what you want because there is no guarantee that the future your saving yourself for is even gonna be there.
Live life while you have the chance, don't waste the best years trying to make sure that youre going to make it to old age.
FYI I love life, am happily married, have an awesome family and an awesome career. I may not make 6 figures, but I get up everyday looking forward to what I do, and it pays well enough to support my family and my auto racing hobby, so you're pretty much wrong on every point you tried to make.

Your post reads like those bitter men I know that spent their whole life avoiding things that might be "bad for their health" or "dangerous", only to realize they didn't LIVE their life or experience SHIT, and that they spent their whole life preparing to die.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Rearden Metal on May 05, 2011, 09:37:57 AM
Your life view will change my friend if you are one of the lucky ones to survive putting all this shit in your body!
80 years old when you get there will be like 60 today - worth a thought ...  ;)

Tons of former or current using guys in 50's, 60's, 70's that are as healthy or more so than their non-using counterparts.

Who cares, juicing is fun and within reason doesn't do a fucking thing adversely compared to tons of over the counter drugs. Quit crying and get your cycle already.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Meso_z on May 05, 2011, 09:40:11 AM
Its 100% safe as long as you dont abuse them.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Brocty on May 05, 2011, 09:46:06 AM
FUcking annoying getbiggers in this thread.

The man is ready to mutate.  And he wants it, let the man follow his path!
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: OptimusPrime1980 on May 05, 2011, 09:49:09 AM
not doing what you really want and stress of living a live the way others want takes years of your life!
steroids are pretty safe actually...
Stavios lookes great, feels great and is happy doing what he loves.
I also do whatever the fu?%k i want.
I told my girl goodbye and I am moving back to Brasil, fu(çk doing what people expect! from me.
live now! do steroids....  gh whenever i can afford...
Look like a god, feel like one!
Stavios props man!
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 05, 2011, 10:48:51 AM

There you go, your Dad gave you your genes and he nearly died in his 40's without the drugs!!! Gives you about 5 years tops then. ENJOY  ;)

then so be it  8)
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Hulkotron on May 05, 2011, 10:51:06 AM
Testosterona: The Nectar of Life
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: gh15 on May 05, 2011, 12:51:38 PM
dont listen to the few here who tell you storys about  not livign till 60 or 80 yada yada,, arnold did both recs and hormones and sit at 65 year old and doing quite ok so he passed 50 and 60....and he did more than hormones! because then no one cared ,,again he did not ABUSE recs...he did not abuse pain killer ...he did not abuse drinking....but he sure did his weed with his aas...


now,,the fellas here who talk abotu short life are talking out of their ass,,they confuse abusing other drugs and substances with hormones,,those are the felas who truly shorten their lifes,,plenty bodybuilders living to see age 80 and 90 and this generation probably even 100 and maybe even more... its the ones who got into big abuse of other drugs with the hormones that had problems but guess what ...tom prince still alive and is ok ,,look like shit but is breathing and living life....same for many others ,,,ken wheeler still alive and walk around and come to shows and active and stil inject shit! ,,

its nto so easy to die from hormones,,you really really need to inject that hormone into the heart directly in mega doses to due from it,,that mean find the main artary and inject the all trenbolona bottle into the heart ....then you may die,,sad thing is ...i dont think someone who does it will die either...

there is huge confusion between the reason wrestlers and bodybuilders die younger...the one who go younger involove genetic predisposition...and the use of other substances that truly shorten life such as NARCOTICA....such as PAIN KILLERS...pain killer will shorten your life if abused ! big big diff than hormones...

hormones are test or twist on test...this is what hormones are....hgh can and actualy PROLONG your life and give you much better quality life...

gh15 approved
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Max B on May 05, 2011, 12:58:56 PM
dont listen to the few here who tell you storys about  not livign till 60 or 80 yada yada,, arnold did both recs and hormones and sit at 65 year old and doing quite ok so he passed 50 and 60....and he did more than hormones! because then no one cared ,,again he did not ABUSE recs...he did not abuse pain killer ...he did not abuse drinking....but he sure did his weed with his aas...


now,,the fellas here who talk abotu short life are talking out of their ass,,they confuse abusing other drugs and substances with hormones,,those are the felas who truly shorten their lifes,,plenty bodybuilders living to see age 80 and 90 and this generation probably even 100 and maybe even more... its the ones who got into big abuse of other drugs with the hormones that had problems but guess what ...tom prince still alive and is ok ,,look like shit but is breathing and living life....same for many others ,,,ken wheeler still alive and walk around and come to shows and active and stil inject shit! ,,

its nto so easy to die from hormones,,you really really need to inject that hormone into the heart directly in mega doses to due from it,,that mean find the main artary and inject the all trenbolona bottle into the heart ....then you may die,,sad thing is ...i dont think someone who does it will die either...

there is huge confusion between the reason wrestlers and bodybuilders die younger...the one who go younger involove genetic predisposition...and the use of other substances that truly shorten life such as NARCOTICA....such as PAIN KILLERS...pain killer will shorten your life if abused ! big big diff than hormones...

hormones are test or twist on test...this is what hormones are....hgh can and actualy PROLONG your life and give you much better quality life...

gh15 approved


i always agree with everything you say but i really never understand your stance on rec drugs and alcohol..  Yes on top of tons of orals and diuretics you're fucked if u abuse them  but normally they arent too harmful.. do u know how many ppl are prescribed xanax and percocet?  I personally smoke weed everyday and do not even consider it a drug... it has done nothing harmful to me in years....  i actually recommened weed to aas users...... are u totally against Recs and alcohol or believe in moderation? whats your opinion on partying and shit? just do it while u arent using hormones if you do  choose to party
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: gh15 on May 05, 2011, 01:08:15 PM
completly against recreational drugs and pain killers,,you abuse them? you will take years of your life...you abuse them with combo of hormones as in strain yhour body and take it in the gym to lift heavy weight in addtition to get prep for competition and that mean diuretic....you will not only shorten your life in general but you will most likley die or get very very sick during your bodybuild years..

what kill you are the following


pain killer combo with booz and with diuretics .....every single bodybuild or westler who gone through this combo for a good year or 2 had severe health problems from kidny fail to liver problems and caner if done for number of years continously and in times death,,

remember people dont tell you what they use! americano people are very secretive to what they use,,many many many americanos drink like crazy im talkin here females!! female americano can go through 6 bottle of beers like it wss water...and in times they will drink half the vodka bottle after...FEMALES! ,,now just imagine the americano men...that with pain killer and rec drugs on regular basis will shorten your life...and if not shorten your life get you sick...

we do not die from hormones,,,we die from the other shit that is very descrete ....peoel still dont get it

my opinion on partying? useless for bodybuilding,,chris never won o  because he partyed ,,he actualy had good chance if he didnt to get one sandow or atlest to consistantly place top 2-3 for years...he didnt because he ws partying and rec addict


BOOZ + PAIN KILLER + REC + HORMONES = EARLY DEATH OR DEATH OR LOSS OF IMPORTANT ORGANS AND FINISH OF BODYBUILD LIFE

hormones by themselves? you can do all day long wont matter actually your body wil be stronger and more invinsible ,,you wil be the healthiest fella around,,notice fellas on hormones hardly get sick ,,they dont,,10 yeasrs with  no fever or sickness ...but! theose are the fellas who are TRULY ONLY on hormones

gh15 approved
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 05, 2011, 01:14:42 PM
GH15, what is the best insulin for pupil Stavios ??

I have only tried Humalog before but some say longer acting insulin is better ?

Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Max B on May 05, 2011, 01:15:58 PM
I'm done getting fucked up off recs, i wasted enough time with that shit... i will still drink as its a social thing and i like to get a little tipsy, plus women love taking me out for drinks but i wont touch rec drugs anymore except for weed. i will smoke weed until the day comes... weed is not a rec drug its more of a medicine.   once i go full blown on hormones i wont touch shit except for green and a cpl drinks every month.    what about ephedrine gh15 what ur take on 'uppers'
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: affeman on May 05, 2011, 01:24:13 PM
@gh15: Isn't a life without partying at all fucking boring?
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 05, 2011, 01:24:47 PM
@gh15: Isn't a life without partying at all fucking boring?

you can party without getting druged up
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: affeman on May 05, 2011, 01:29:05 PM
you can party without getting druged up

no
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 05, 2011, 01:30:29 PM
no


I can and I always have a lot of fun 8)
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: affeman on May 05, 2011, 01:34:26 PM

I can and I always have a lot of fun 8)

Yeah, standing as the only sober one next to the dancefloor of a few 100 drunk and drugged screaming teens in a fucking smoky club where you puke when you take a deeper breath, it doesn't get any better than that.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 05, 2011, 02:48:11 PM

Just STFU already, "mom".

  Hey, phaggot, how are you efforts to demod me going? That was a brutal self-ownage. Phaggot starts thread begging Ron(like a little bitch) to demod me, and Ron just ignore him. He claims I am a terrible mod, so I post PM from him saying that he enjoys my modding. How you looked dumb enough already, DK ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 05, 2011, 02:53:22 PM
Maybe he will, but 20 years from now you will still be running your yap telling the new generation of bodybuilder, "Don't do it, you might die.... be like me instead, a man without a life that has been on getbig for the last 25 years looking at bodybuilders with envy and jealousy, please don't do it man." That's his thing and your thing is to rant on getbig all day long but your life is better right?

  You got it all wrong, moron. I am close to 6'5 tall and a naturally big man. I am not a short-dicked midget like you guys who try to overcompensate by taking massive amounts of anabolics. And I have taken steroids before - but never too insulin and GH - and I have been as heavy as 330 lbs, so I know what I'm talking about. I felt like shit on Hemogenin, felt irritable on Durateston and my cholesterol was on the verge of giving me a heart attack. My systolic blood pressure also increased dramatically due to Sodium retention and I had terrible headaches. I am not a skinny guys talking about things I don't understand. I have tried all the steroids you can think and then some. I have even taken 150 mg of oxymetholone and over 1 gram of test a week at the same time And 600 mg od deca. All that shit at the same time.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 05, 2011, 02:56:33 PM
Please die already. Nobody here respects you or cares what you think or say. You're a self absorbed, delusional moron. All you try to do is impress others with your phony never backed up claims. You pollute this board and stink it up  with your presence. Pupil Stavios poops turds that smell better than you.
 

  Suck my fucking dick, you fucking son of a bitch. I am not going anywhere you phaggot son of a c.u.nt. I will remain here and remind you of the turd you are. This is my board, phaggot. You leave...I have been here for 7 years. Who the fuck do you think you are to talk to me like that? I would fucking beat the shit out of you if we met phaggot. Now STFU before I really get angry at you.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 05, 2011, 03:02:10 PM
  Look at all the morons sucking on GH15's little clitoris. You guys are fucking morons. Keep following his advice. You will end up with multiple organ failure, diabetic, deformed and blind and all you will have to show for it will be and extra 20 watery pounds.

  Getbig.com boards is truly the greatest collections of morons and trolls on the net. They will follow the advice of a 15 year-old kid as gospel. Lol...GH15 tells these idiots what they want to hear, namely, that the only reason why pros are so big is due to steroids and other drugs, and they believe it because they want to believe it. Go ahead, idiots. Follow his advice. You will still be skinny nerds sitting behind your computers with even more acne and even smaller balls then you already have.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Largerthanlife on May 05, 2011, 03:07:38 PM
stavios some glutes shots plz!
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: gh15 on May 05, 2011, 03:16:53 PM
 Look at all the morons sucking on GH15's little clitoris. You guys are fucking morons. Keep following his advice. You will end up with multiple organ failure, diabetic, deformed and blind and all you will have to show for it will be and extra 20 watery pounds.

  Getbig.com boards is truly the greatest collections of morons and trolls on the net. They will follow the advice of a 15 year-old kid as gospel. Lol...GH15 tells these idiots what they want to hear, namely, that the only reason why pros are so big is due to steroids and other drugs, and they believe it because they want to believe it. Go ahead, idiots. Follow his advice. You will still be skinny nerds sitting behind your computers with even more acne and even smaller balls then you already have.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

what are you fuckin nuts? seriously are you nuts? dont you see how much size stavio gained? he is in early to mid 20s if he dont do it now then he wil be sorry later in his 30s,,remember this is bodybuild board,,bodybuilders here want to be professionals,,professional = lots of hormones and SPECIFIC hormones and timing,,it is mainly legit hormones and the respond to LEGIT hormones,,

the only thing stavio is lacking is thickness ,,thats about it ,,he is lacking thickness through THROUGH the torse....since if he is 220lb then the thickness is not enough since it resemble thickness of 195lb bodybuilder,,, so the hgh and insulina and trenbolona and testosterona will bring that thickness,,

he already hav every good seperation ,,he already have good musculatory development of every muscle,,the pecs are there ...can be improved but there,,delts are big time there ,,arms are there and this is big surprize ...his arms dont need seo he is up there on the arms...need more over all thickness through the torse and with that it will also go to arm ,,but arm improved!

you are sitting here bitching to stavio while he has one of the best physiqe on the getbig board and any board to be exact ,,this is quite strange,,but then again you are strage mr lutenent

gh15 appproved
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: gh15 on May 05, 2011, 03:19:16 PM
and his waist is tiny! ,, i keep forgeting this,,his waist is small and doesnt seem to hodl much water,,this is highly impressive for 200lb + bodybuilder
lot of illusion but this is bodybuild  i l u s i o n

gh15 approved
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 05, 2011, 03:24:54 PM
what are you fuckin nuts? seriously are you nuts? dont you see how much size stavio gained? he is in early to mid 20s if he dont do it now then he wil be sorry later in his 30s,,remember this is bodybuild board,,bodybuilders here want to be professionals,,professional = lots of hormones and SPECIFIC hormones and timing,,it is mainly legit hormones and the respond to LEGIT hormones,,

the only thing stavio is lacking is thickness ,,thats about it ,,he is lacking thickness through THROUGH the torse....since if he is 220lb then the thickness is not enough since it resemble thickness of 195lb bodybuilder,,, so the hgh and insulina and trenbolona and testosterona will bring that thickness,,
he already hav every good seperation ,,he already have good musculatory development of every muscle,,the pecs are there ...can be improved but there,,delts are big time there ,,arms are there and this is big surprize ...his arms dont need seo he is up there on the arms...need more over all thickness through the torse and with that it will also go to arm ,,but arm improved!

you are sitting here bitching to stavio while he has one of the best physiqe on the getbig board and any board to be exact ,,this is quite strange,,but then again you are strage mr lutenent

gh15 appproved

without the water bloat, I would be around that ! 190-195 onstage IMO

so you are pretty much on the money !
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Cableguy on May 05, 2011, 04:41:38 PM
I never got the whole hype of living into your 80's lol

being in your 80's fucking suck, you are old and sick and too tired to d shit most of the time
why not do whatever the fuck I want right now while I am young and full of life

Not me brother. I'm going to still be vital and active in my 80's. You are what you believe.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: thenumberis666 on May 05, 2011, 05:01:43 PM
dont listen to the few here who tell you storys about  not livign till 60 or 80 yada yada,, arnold did both recs and hormones and sit at 65 year old and doing quite ok so he passed 50 and 60....and he did more than hormones! because then no one cared ,,again he did not ABUSE recs...he did not abuse pain killer ...he did not abuse drinking....but he sure did his weed with his aas...


now,,the fellas here who talk abotu short life are talking out of their ass,,they confuse abusing other drugs and substances with hormones,,those are the felas who truly shorten their lifes,,plenty bodybuilders living to see age 80 and 90 and this generation probably even 100 and maybe even more... its the ones who got into big abuse of other drugs with the hormones that had problems but guess what ...tom prince still alive and is ok ,,look like shit but is breathing and living life....same for many others ,,,ken wheeler still alive and walk around and come to shows and active and stil inject shit! ,,

its nto so easy to die from hormones,,you really really need to inject that hormone into the heart directly in mega doses to due from it,,that mean find the main artary and inject the all trenbolona bottle into the heart ....then you may die,,sad thing is ...i dont think someone who does it will die either...

there is huge confusion between the reason wrestlers and bodybuilders die younger...the one who go younger involove genetic predisposition...and the use of other substances that truly shorten life such as NARCOTICA....such as PAIN KILLERS...pain killer will shorten your life if abused ! big big diff than hormones...

hormones are test or twist on test...this is what hormones are....hgh can and actualy PROLONG your life and give you much better quality life...

gh15 approved

 ??? ??? ???

IT ONLY TOOK MY 7 HOURS OF PARTICIPATION ON THIS BOARD TO REALISE (FROM THIS POST ), THAT YOU ARE DELUSIONAL OLD DRUG WRECK.

SORRY TO BE HARSH. BUT THATS THE TRUTH....

YOU ARE MISSLEADING PEOPLE SOMETHING GROSE WITH THE ABOVE REASONING.
 
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Benoitlapierre on May 05, 2011, 08:19:14 PM
its nto so easy to die from hormones,,you really really need to inject that hormone into the heart directly in mega doses to due from it,,that mean find the main artary and inject the all trenbolona bottle into the heart ....then you may die,,sad thing is ...i dont think someone who does it will die either...
( gh15 )

 this has to be th best sentence i read in steroid forum in 4 years
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: pellius on May 05, 2011, 08:31:07 PM
@gh15: Isn't a life without partying at all fucking boring?

Nope. There's a difference between fun, short term thrills; and happiness, which comes from fulfillment and often requires some discipline and sacrifice.

The unexamined life is not worth living.

Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: pellius on May 05, 2011, 08:32:31 PM
no

Yes, I've never been drunk or high in my life and never felt I missed out of anything or felt bored or have lost out on any "fun."
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: pellius on May 05, 2011, 08:33:47 PM
 You got it all wrong, moron. I am close to 6'5 tall and a naturally big man. I am not a short-dicked midget like you guys who try to overcompensate by taking massive amounts of anabolics. And I have taken steroids before - but never too insulin and GH - and I have been as heavy as 330 lbs, so I know what I'm talking about. I felt like shit on Hemogenin, felt irritable on Durateston and my cholesterol was on the verge of giving me a heart attack. My systolic blood pressure also increased dramatically due to Sodium retention and I had terrible headaches. I am not a skinny guys talking about things I don't understand. I have tried all the steroids you can think and then some. I have even taken 150 mg of oxymetholone and over 1 gram of test a week at the same time And 600 mg od deca. All that shit at the same time.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

What a sad and pathetic little man you are.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: DK II on May 05, 2011, 08:35:17 PM
FUcking annoying getbiggers in this thread.

The man is ready to mutate.  And he wants it, let the man follow his path!

THIS.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Wiggs on May 05, 2011, 08:36:36 PM
Yes, I've never been drunk or high in my life and never felt I missed out of anything or felt bored or have lost out on any "fun."

I agree with both...Affeman has experienced them both as have I.  There is really no comparison to the two...and I'm speaking on drugs...Once you experience it the feeling of "happiness" is redifined...
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: pellius on May 05, 2011, 08:37:51 PM
  Suck my fucking dick, you fucking son of a bitch. I am not going anywhere you phaggot son of a c.u.nt. I will remain here and remind you of the turd you are. This is my board, phaggot. You leave...I have been here for 7 years. Who the fuck do you think you are to talk to me like that? I would fucking beat the shit out of you if we met phaggot. Now STFU before I really get angry at you.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Now that's a legit meltdown. And coming from someone who claims to have an IQ higher than Einstein. And you ain't beating the shit out of anyone you pathetic little queer. And you can get as angry as you want, I'm still not going to comply with your homosexual desires. Maybe you can get Tbombz to suck you off. But even he has standards. I doubt your cock size will meet his requirements.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: lesaucer on May 05, 2011, 08:59:58 PM
god of hormones what fucking slin protocol do you recommend ??
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Benoitlapierre on May 05, 2011, 09:16:32 PM
i rec + steroid 24-28 yo ,,, and i pay today ,, less stronger toward androgen

 if want pro card stay away from party , each party it' like goin backward 2- 3 weeks

i went 200-260 party - nattie 2 years , n restart at 200 to 270 no party

 if i went no party n never went off cycle , i be a massive monster today

 it wasnt written , i was blind by other mean ,,,,

stavios on right mind on right time ,

gain mass at 35 it really hard

go stav go
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: dj181 on May 05, 2011, 09:56:41 PM
and his waist is tiny! ,, i keep forgeting this,,his waist is small and doesnt seem to hodl much water,,this is highly impressive for 200lb + bodybuilder
lot of illusion but this is bodybuild  i l u s i o n

gh15 approved

Great post
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: cross-of-iron on May 05, 2011, 10:16:42 PM

not at all ,, it's fun !!!!!!!!!

women love monster not many but the one who like it ,  they come to you , you do nothing , th fitness in shape model intimidate women n guy end alone too pretty ,, a monster they say hello n jump on you ,, true fact

DIE FOR MASS < DIE FOR GLORY , liver failure til death , testosterone th nectar of life , better live passionate then die old boring , lame without success torn in th mediocrity of th traditional citizen , go for broke , sacrifice for all

 stavios have th relentheless passion , th i dont give a fuck about future attitude, it about now n huge , RESULT !

this is th real life , clarity , insanity , emancipation , self destruction , diversity , colourful and empirical

 you die young but damn i fuck 4 times a day , 25 til 35 yo , i bang slut til quirt like no tomorow on enanthate i can now go in hell i live th sin lust paradise in pussy n squat rack for more then a decade

it was purely awesome , th chemical life is quite a adventure not for wimps , not for loosers , but for hero

hero of weight , pounds , reps , and deadlift til puke in agony

 shed blood n tears til 3,4%bf , step on stage grainy , dysfunctional , delusional, mind over war in victory


 stavios live th bbing at 300mph or just get th fuck out

 

*Wipes away tear.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 05, 2011, 10:18:22 PM
what are you fuckin nuts? seriously are you nuts? dont you see how much size stavio gained? he is in early to mid 20s if he dont do it now then he wil be sorry later in his 30s,,remember this is bodybuild board,,bodybuilders here want to be professionals,,professional = lots of hormones and SPECIFIC hormones and timing,,it is mainly legit hormones and the respond to LEGIT hormones,,

the only thing stavio is lacking is thickness ,,thats about it ,,he is lacking thickness through THROUGH the torse....since if he is 220lb then the thickness is not enough since it resemble thickness of 195lb bodybuilder,,, so the hgh and insulina and trenbolona and testosterona will bring that thickness,,

he already hav every good seperation ,,he already have good musculatory development of every muscle,,the pecs are there ...can be improved but there,,delts are big time there ,,arms are there and this is big surprize ...his arms dont need seo he is up there on the arms...need more over all thickness through the torse and with that it will also go to arm ,,but arm improved!

you are sitting here bitching to stavio while he has one of the best physiqe on the getbig board and any board to be exact ,,this is quite strange,,but then again you are strage mr lutenent

gh15 appproved

  I AM GOING TO FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE, YOU FUCKING SON OF A C.U.N.T AND I PROMISE I WILL EXPOSE YOU FOR THE FRAUD YOU ARE!!!!!!!!!!! I AM TIRED OF YOU POLLUTING MY BOARD WITH YOUR GARBAGE. I WILL FIND YOU. I PROMISE IT. I WILL DEDICATE ALL MY RESOURCES TO EXPOSING YOU. IT WILL GIVE ME GREAT SATISFACTION TO REMOVE YOUR MASK AND SEE YOU EXPOSED AND IN SHAME. GH15, YOU FUCKING BITCH, STOP POLLUTING MY BOARD WITH YOUR PATHETIC ESSAYS ON DRUG USE. THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE. THIS IS A CEASE AND DESIST ORDER.  I AM ORDERING YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DO YOU HEAR ME???!!!!! I AM MAKING THIS VERY CLEAR TO YOU. I DO NOT WANT YOU POSTING HERE ANYMORE, AND YOU WILL OBEY ME. YOU WILL. NOW...FUCK OFF.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: WillGrant on May 05, 2011, 10:20:00 PM
 I AM GOING TO FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE, YOU FUCKING SON OF A C.U.N.T AND I PROMISE I WILL EXPOSE YOU FOR THE FRAUD YOU ARE!!!!!!!!!!! I AM TIRED OF YOU POLLUTING MY BOARD WITH YOUR GARBAGE. I WILL FIND YOU. I PROMISE IT. I WILL DEDICATE ALL MY RESOURCES TO EXPOSING YOU. IT WILL GIVE ME GREAT SATISFACTION TO REMOVE YOUR MASK AND SEE YOU EXPOSED AND IN SHAME. GH15, YOU FUCKING BITCH, STOP POLLUTING MY BOARD WITH YOUR PATHETIC ESSAYS ON DRUG USE. THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE. THIS IS A CEASE AND DESIST ORDER.  I AM ORDERING YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DO YOU HEAR ME???!!!!! I AM MAKING THIS VERY CLEAR TO YOU. I DO NOT WANT YOU POSTING HERE ANYMORE, AND YOU WILL OBEY ME. YOU WILL. NOW...FUCK OFF.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Steroids are not for everyone - you need to lower the dose angry man  :-\
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Master Blaster on May 05, 2011, 10:41:04 PM
Amazing man... i am 20 lbs lighter then you right now with bf 5-7% pts higher then you... im jealous. How do you do it?

small torso / long limbs

good long term results very poor short term returns
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 05, 2011, 11:31:26 PM
small torso / long limbs

good long term results very poor short term returns

I think small torso and long limbs suck !!!

very hard to look good in bodybuilding poses with that

LeafyThug's structure is better, his hips are narrower too and his clavicles are as wide as mine if not wider

LeafyThug as the most potential here on getbig with Matt Tsingorang also but Matt is a bit older
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Benoitlapierre on May 05, 2011, 11:47:55 PM
I think small torso and long limbs suck !!!

very hard to look good in bodybuilding poses with that

LeafyThug's structure is better, his hips are narrower too and his clavicles are as wide as mine if not wider

LeafyThug as the most potential here on getbig with Matt Tsingorang also but Matt is a bit older

off season bro that why stay too lean not so good , do you know how much food is it to gain 5-6 inch on your legs , at your height it a over 300+ off season at 12% ,, start eat like your 300 now n it will come ,,

matt look great but not super heavy ,, ben pakulsy , fouad abiad , it th size you need
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: pellius on May 05, 2011, 11:53:00 PM
 I AM GOING TO FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE, YOU FUCKING SON OF A C.U.N.T AND I PROMISE I WILL EXPOSE YOU FOR THE FRAUD YOU ARE!!!!!!!!!!! I AM TIRED OF YOU POLLUTING MY BOARD WITH YOUR GARBAGE. I WILL FIND YOU. I PROMISE IT. I WILL DEDICATE ALL MY RESOURCES TO EXPOSING YOU. IT WILL GIVE ME GREAT SATISFACTION TO REMOVE YOUR MASK AND SEE YOU EXPOSED AND IN SHAME. GH15, YOU FUCKING BITCH, STOP POLLUTING MY BOARD WITH YOUR PATHETIC ESSAYS ON DRUG USE. THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE. THIS IS A CEASE AND DESIST ORDER.  I AM ORDERING YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DO YOU HEAR ME???!!!!! I AM MAKING THIS VERY CLEAR TO YOU. I DO NOT WANT YOU POSTING HERE ANYMORE, AND YOU WILL OBEY ME. YOU WILL. NOW...FUCK OFF.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

You ain't finding out nothing and you ain't doing shit because you can't do shit. You are a seriously disturbed and delusional little fucktard that no one respects of even likes. You have never ever backed up or proved any of the claims or boast you constantly make. gh15 will be here as long as he wants to and you can make all the threats you want but in the end he's still eating sushi and you're still eating shit.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 05, 2011, 11:53:28 PM
off season bro that why stay too lean not so good , do you know how much food is it to gain 5-6 inch on your legs , at your height it a over 300+ off season at 12% ,, start eat like your 300 now n it will come ,,

matt look great but not super heavy ,, ben pakulsy , fouad abiad , it th size you need

just bought my insulin tonight  8)

starting tommorow !

I just need to stay away from Mcdonald's, harveys and shits like that.

what I like to eat as a carb source right now is Betty Crocker's mashed potatoes, with 250 gr of meat and 1 cup of corn cream  8)

paté chinois !!!
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Benoitlapierre on May 06, 2011, 12:05:36 AM
just bought my insulin tonight  8)

starting tommorow !

I just need to stay away from Mcdonald's, harveys and shits like that.

what I like to eat as a carb source right now is Betty Crocker's mashed potatoes, with 250 gr of meat and 1 cup of corn cream  8)

paté chinois !!!

humulin N right ?
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Benoitlapierre on May 06, 2011, 12:39:00 AM
Let's hope not.

Humalog I hope. 

 humalog you tend to eat too much , too strong too quick , insulin not dangerous at all , it give a rest to pancreas that all , once you stop everything goes back normal right away,, humulin n nourish muscle 12 hours , slow , no shock , no hypo , no major water retention , waist easier in control , more mass long term

humalog will b for intra workout milos sarcev philosophy

humalog = water ballon puffiness

so many bad propaganda against insulin use ,, insulin better , stronger then steroid

th trick with insulin it's slowly increase at such slow pace ,, you dont fell it ,, per say , no side effect , no crash

does it job unnoticed
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: gh15 on May 06, 2011, 01:01:10 AM
 I AM GOING TO FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE, YOU FUCKING SON OF A C.U.N.T AND I PROMISE I WILL EXPOSE YOU FOR THE FRAUD YOU ARE!!!!!!!!!!! I AM TIRED OF YOU POLLUTING MY BOARD WITH YOUR GARBAGE. I WILL FIND YOU. I PROMISE IT. I WILL DEDICATE ALL MY RESOURCES TO EXPOSING YOU. IT WILL GIVE ME GREAT SATISFACTION TO REMOVE YOUR MASK AND SEE YOU EXPOSED AND IN SHAME. GH15, YOU FUCKING BITCH, STOP POLLUTING MY BOARD WITH YOUR PATHETIC ESSAYS ON DRUG USE. THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE. THIS IS A CEASE AND DESIST ORDER.  I AM ORDERING YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DO YOU HEAR ME???!!!!! I AM MAKING THIS VERY CLEAR TO YOU. I DO NOT WANT YOU POSTING HERE ANYMORE, AND YOU WILL OBEY ME. YOU WILL. NOW...FUCK OFF.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

you are lucky i know youre not stable in the head kido,, if i really believd your words you woudl be in prison now under controled delivery of lots of hormones to your door step with out you  even knowing how it landed there,,it would be present from your mama,,
lunatik

gh15 approved
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: gh15 on May 06, 2011, 01:03:58 AM
For bodybuilding purposes humalog is best and humulin r is 2nd best.

Sorry but the half life does not control water retention. It just makes it easier to control what is going on in your body.

Also I disagree that slin is a superstar on it's own. There is a crucial component to slin that seems to have been forgotten noways- it's peak effect is the maturation of satellite cells due to hyperplasia.

Meaning you need to be on the right stack with the right timing to get peak effectiveness of it. And from what I recall, you only get one shot with slin. It's good for 20lbs or so and from there you keep shooting it and shooting it and not growing. I believe that may be a rough estimate but slin only works for so long. This may be why guys take higher and higher doses and suffer worse and worse sides, always chasing the dragon as it were.

I believe it works like this- you first get on GH to prime your body. Something like 5-6 units ED at the least. Train heavy but much more emphasis on the negative portion to stimulate hyperplasia.

About week 4 or so feed in massive doses of some type 1 and 2 agonists. Test/deca/dbol would be ideal here. Actually prop npp and dbol if they are available.

Now, after about 3 weeks or so jack up the GH and feed in slin. Training needs to be HEAVY and make sure you place emphasis on the negatives. The gh will stimulate satellite cell maturation into type 2 fast twitch muscle fibers and the slin will force feed them and the gear will stimulate what you already have and also give you more of what you had already.

Stay on this high dose for around 10-12 more weeks then come off for a couple weeks to allow your receptors to re-sensitize. Would also be a good time to get some estrogen to help, if you really want to just run your test with no anti-estrogen and you will get much more out of your cycle If you have low bodyfat to begin with you should not have a problem with gyno. A smart bodybuilder get his mammary gland removed, but that's just me.

So there you have it- GH/slin is the shit, but only if you do it right.



very good methyl mike,,im impressed ,,most of what you wrote is right on,,very good

gh15 approved
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Benoitlapierre on May 06, 2011, 01:16:24 AM
For bodybuilding purposes humalog is best and humulin r is 2nd best.

Sorry but the half life does not control water retention. It just makes it easier to control what is going on in your body.

Also I disagree that slin is a superstar on it's own. There is a crucial component to slin that seems to have been forgotten noways- it's peak effect is the maturation of satellite cells due to hyperplasia.

Meaning you need to be on the right stack with the right timing to get peak effectiveness of it. And from what I recall, you only get one shot with slin. It's good for 20lbs or so and from there you keep shooting it and shooting it and not growing. I believe that may be a rough estimate but slin only works for so long. This may be why guys take higher and higher doses and suffer worse and worse sides, always chasing the dragon as it were.

I believe it works like this- you first get on GH to prime your body. Something like 5-6 units ED at the least. Train heavy but much more emphasis on the negative portion to stimulate hyperplasia.

About week 4 or so feed in massive doses of some type 1 and 2 agonists. Test/deca/dbol would be ideal here. Actually prop npp and dbol if they are available.

Now, after about 3 weeks or so jack up the GH and feed in slin. Training needs to be HEAVY and make sure you place emphasis on the negatives. The gh will stimulate satellite cell maturation into type 2 fast twitch muscle fibers and the slin will force feed them and the gear will stimulate what you already have and also give you more of what you had already.

Stay on this high dose for around 10-12 more weeks then come off for a couple weeks to allow your receptors to re-sensitize. Would also be a good time to get some estrogen to help, if you really want to just run your test with no anti-estrogen and you will get much more out of your cycle If you have low bodyfat to begin with you should not have a problem with gyno. A smart bodybuilder get his mammary gland removed, but that's just me.

So there you have it- GH/slin is the shit, but only if you do it right.



 i say 30ui slow slin twice a day , 18ui gh a day  , am pm 9 ui , taken same time ,, boom fucking mega monster and quick

fuck dbol it's fuck stomach u blow up,,  u win u loose n destroy ph ,, n eat less

gyno surgery problem in canada it cost a fortune

go off what th fuck is go off , off is for pussy

 receptor ,, reeceptor doesnt exist ,,, steroid will always work ,, guy who dont stop are th freakiest

receptor are different lower to upper body that all ,, 3gr enan year basis , 18 ui gh year basis , 30ui slow slin twice a day year basis , no fucking diet ,,, you get a stavios at 300 in no time ,,, you need freaky size ,, it only for i dont care about side effect ,,, feelling good is over rated when young ,,, you fell good after 35 ,,,, when you fell like shit it' a real cycle


 fuck science crap,,, brologic rule ,, much ahead ,,, what do you look like ,, it all it matters in my book
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Benoitlapierre on May 06, 2011, 01:37:23 AM
For most people their receptors will downregulate over time. The human body is extremely good at maintaining homeostasis.

The easiest way to accomplish this is through estrogen manipulation. I can get into a more detailed discussion if anyone cares to but here is the gist of it- estrogen re-sensitizes the androgen receptor. Have you noticed how many pros get gyno? Do you think any good bodybuilder can get test/deca etc but not some aromasin or letrozole? Don't fool yourself. I think sometimes it happens beyond their control, like Ronnie 98 olympia (probably suspension flare up) but all in all it works like this- if you want to stay lean and dry, gyno in check, run a suicide AI. If you aren't growing fast enough, cut the AI for a few weeks (till nips start to really gain mass) and then feed in some nolvadex/aromasin till it's under control. If you really know your body, you can do this reliably year round. Remember, only take as much AI as you need, and gyno can be controlled easily until it becomes fibrous. Once it gets hard and grainy you got problems but even then some shit you can do to fix it. But the bottom line is estrogen cycling is just as important as any other hormone. Test/deca/oral year round and AI/tamoxifen cycling year round. If you can afford it, get gyno surgery and ask the surgeon to remove your glandular tissue as well. This way you can cycle estrogen year round lowering it when you need to look dry and lean and then allowing it to spike back up when you want to grow.

Ever notice how waterlogged jay is in the offseason? And other pro's? Ever ask yourself why they carry so much fucking water? They are allowing their estrogen to spike back up so they can build their size back up. I gotta tell you guys, estrogen is CRUCIAL to bodybuilding. More estrogen means fresh androgen receptors and more muscle growth. Get the surgery or learn to cycle Ai's and thank me later.



again 30ui slow lin ed twice a day , 18ui gh a day , 3gr enan , it will take years before he look same ,, he' young , he will grow like weed non stop , trey brewer style , 12 meal a day , 24/7

stavios in canada can get 10000000000 aromasin if he want it' legal ,, you take anti e for 4 weeks n rotate them to protect cholesterol , adex , nolva , aromasin , letro , you be fine , some ppls actually never do gyno no matters what they take ,, vit b6 often do th prolactin job

muscle growth mean train till you fucking die , max poundage , extreme torture , violent workout

you get masteron raw , from chinese distro , by ontario it cross custom 90% of time , even if seized they send a letter with no repercussion , viva canada ,,, then you create a home base dht cream with masteron ,, n it' work !,, meaning it will disappear on stage n come back once your done ,,, voila


last 3 weeks of contest 50mg aromasin n 5mg letro ,, boom gyno destrution ,, dry joint indeed but high gh help ,,

gh + keto = can keep gh til end
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: ricorico on May 06, 2011, 01:38:24 AM
 I AM GOING TO FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE, YOU FUCKING SON OF A C.U.N.T AND I PROMISE I WILL EXPOSE YOU FOR THE FRAUD YOU ARE!!!!!!!!!!! I AM TIRED OF YOU POLLUTING MY BOARD WITH YOUR GARBAGE. I WILL FIND YOU. I PROMISE IT. I WILL DEDICATE ALL MY RESOURCES TO EXPOSING YOU. IT WILL GIVE ME GREAT SATISFACTION TO REMOVE YOUR MASK AND SEE YOU EXPOSED AND IN SHAME. GH15, YOU FUCKING BITCH, STOP POLLUTING MY BOARD WITH YOUR PATHETIC ESSAYS ON DRUG USE. THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE. THIS IS A CEASE AND DESIST ORDER.  I AM ORDERING YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DO YOU HEAR ME???!!!!! I AM MAKING THIS VERY CLEAR TO YOU. I DO NOT WANT YOU POSTING HERE ANYMORE, AND YOU WILL OBEY ME. YOU WILL. NOW...FUCK OFF.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Hi Chris Benoit
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: pellius on May 06, 2011, 02:27:08 AM
very good methyl mike,,im impressed ,,most of what you wrote is right on,,very good

gh15 approved

Why don't you just tell your pupils the proper way to use slin. Guys that are going to do it are going to do it. I don't think one can screw up much with AAS or HGH but it seems you can screw up royally with insulin. This is an example of an insulin protocol recommended by Mutant who many consider an authority on HGH and Slin and consequently many follow. Is this what pupil Stavios should be doing?

- -30 min prior to workout: Take 10iu HGH subq

 - -15 min prior to workout: Take 6-16iu Novalog subq

 - -10 min prior to workout: Drink shake #1

 - -After every working set: Sip on shake #2, and finish by end of workout

 - -Go home

 - -Take 100mcg of the IGF-1lr3 (for it's insulin sensitizing effects)

 - -Take down shake #3

 - -Done..now you are huge
 Ok, now what is in the shakes...

 Shake 1: 10-20g EAA's (Essential Amino Acids) or PeptoPro, 40-60g Low DE Maltodextrin, 5g Micronized Creatine Monohydrate, 200mg Caffeine (or pre-workout powdered mix of choice in place of caffeine)
 Thought for research to conclude if the most beneficial amount of carbs would be in the range of 7-10g per iu of insuline used. So at drink #1 with 4iu's being 28-40g of carbs and again with drink #2....keeping extra glucose tabs, sugar or whatever near as a back up should this not be enough.....

 Shake 2: 10-20g EAA's or PeptoPro, 50-100g Dextrose, 5g Micronized Creatine Monohydrate

 Shake 3: 2 cups pasteurized egg whites, 1 cup dry oats, 1 banana or 1 cup blueberries (I prefer them to be frozen), splenda or stevia

Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: GroinkTropin on May 06, 2011, 02:56:49 AM
Only thing I would change would be to not take the caffeine, not sure why you have that in there but caffeine hinders the absorption of creatine. Never take them together.

Also you may want to feed in high doses of R-ala throughout the day and in particular the post workout meal for it's insulin sensitizing effects. It is very effective.

I use glucorell, when I take it. Cheaper than IGF lr3.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: notsureifsrs on May 06, 2011, 03:04:10 AM
  You got it all wrong, moron. I am close to 6'5 tall and a naturally big man. I am not a short-dicked midget like you guys who try to overcompensate by taking massive amounts of anabolics. And I have taken steroids before - but never too insulin and GH - and I have been as heavy as 330 lbs, so I know what I'm talking about. I felt like shit on Hemogenin, felt irritable on Durateston and my cholesterol was on the verge of giving me a heart attack. My systolic blood pressure also increased dramatically due to Sodium retention and I had terrible headaches. I am not a skinny guys talking about things I don't understand. I have tried all the steroids you can think and then some. I have even taken 150 mg of oxymetholone and over 1 gram of test a week at the same time And 600 mg od deca. All that shit at the same time.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Could be more impressed if it was 150mg Oxandrolone tho...
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: The.Giant on May 06, 2011, 03:10:44 AM
This last page has been fucking gold.

Thanks MM, BLP, GH.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: WillGrant on May 06, 2011, 03:23:55 AM
Only thing I would change would be to not take the caffeine, not sure why you have that in there but caffeine hinders the absorption of creatine. Never take them together.

Also you may want to feed in high doses of R-ala throughout the day and in particular the post workout meal for it's insulin sensitizing effects. It is very effective.

I use glucorell, when I take it. Cheaper than IGF lr3.
The only problem here (if it is one) is BLP = Walks the Walk where as You (MM) get all your info from google - first ever natural pro  and you cant even stay consistent  ::)
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Benoitlapierre on May 06, 2011, 04:43:58 AM

Here is the kicker- there may be many reasons why some genetic elite grow on nothing, but I bet good money 9/10 share 2 things in common- high circulating estrogen levels and extremely high insulin sensitivity.

Lifting weights itself will help with the insulin sensitivity. R-ala will do wonders as well, 100mgs per 50 grams of carbohydrate taken 20 minutes before meals.

Now, as for the hardgainers- if you typically respond like shit to gear I have a recommendation for you- spike estrogen and keep it high for a few months while you lift HEAVY and then cycle again and you will be SHOCKED at what you see.

Good ol methyl-test (my namesake) would be numero uno, as would test suspension. Hell synovex-H if you can find it. If you have an issue with gyno take 20-40 mgs nolvadex on an as needed basis (remember it deacreases GH so do not take more than needed) I would even go so far as to take estrogen tablets, it depends on the person. You want to push the envelope, get circulating estrogen levels real high and then maintain while you keep gyno at bay.

Hope this helps.

there is no hard gainer , those ppls dont know what th fuck they doing n give them a reason to be

alpha lipoic work if you take th entire bottle a day

methyl test 9 whatevr methyl , lethyl tren ) kill asl way too fast , hepatoxic , better testo year basis , safer , better , less side effect

suspension = water balloon , fuck it

nolvadex doesnt decrease gh , th exogenous mayb but that not the important one ( or vice versa) , those are thought from th 90"

estradiol great for transexual

you want to help i need fertility back in 18 months

estrgen is great i get that , but high blood pressure n side effect also , i prefer prop npp primobolan , fast acting since im 36 years old ,, younger 1 sustenon a day or 3 gr enan for aim to kick ass
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Benoitlapierre on May 06, 2011, 04:49:49 AM
Why don't you just tell your pupils the proper way to use slin. Guys that are going to do it are going to do it. I don't think one can screw up much with AAS or HGH but it seems you can screw up royally with insulin. This is an example of an insulin protocol recommended by Mutant who many consider an authority on HGH and Slin and consequently many follow. Is this what pupil Stavios should be doing?

- -30 min prior to workout: Take 10iu HGH subq

 - -15 min prior to workout: Take 6-16iu Novalog subq

 - -10 min prior to workout: Drink shake #1

 - -After every working set: Sip on shake #2, and finish by end of workout

 - -Go home

 - -Take 100mcg of the IGF-1lr3 (for it's insulin sensitizing effects)

 - -Take down shake #3

 - -Done..now you are huge
 Ok, now what is in the shakes...

 Shake 1: 10-20g EAA's (Essential Amino Acids) or PeptoPro, 40-60g Low DE Maltodextrin, 5g Micronized Creatine Monohydrate, 200mg Caffeine (or pre-workout powdered mix of choice in place of caffeine)
 Thought for research to conclude if the most beneficial amount of carbs would be in the range of 7-10g per iu of insuline used. So at drink #1 with 4iu's being 28-40g of carbs and again with drink #2....keeping extra glucose tabs, sugar or whatever near as a back up should this not be enough.....

 Shake 2: 10-20g EAA's or PeptoPro, 50-100g Dextrose, 5g Micronized Creatine Monohydrate

 Shake 3: 2 cups pasteurized egg whites, 1 cup dry oats, 1 banana or 1 cup blueberries (I prefer them to be frozen), splenda or stevia



before workout for cardiac output ,,, well on 3gr enan you be ready to sleep n passed out

20 mcg , max , downregulation of 1gflr3 do occur

way too much , you get huge with real food , 9 raw full eggs organic , 300 gr beef 45 min after , then simple sugar , carbo drink withing , post vitargo , then eat every 2 hours 300gr salmon , chicken , farm feed free animal and mono eating , one thing per meal only easier , to absorb , cook 5 second veal organic taste awesome ,, non stop eating all night if you wake up

stavios you go "marche atwater" for that

creatine hcl concrete much better

cafeine stop creatine intake about 4% ,,, who' care

white egg never , yellow , fat = hormone , fat = testosterone , not fruit , fruit good for brain function


your natural ? fuck natural ,,, 300 pounds stavios right fucking now ! lol

dextrose = side effects , mass keto 350$ meat a week , bio organic , 24 full eggs raw a day , minimal carb


your protocol are for carb resistant ppls ,,, th minority
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: gh15 on May 06, 2011, 04:54:27 AM
there is no hard gainer , those ppls dont know what th fuck they doing n give them a reason to be

alpha lipoic work if you take th entire bottle a day

methyl test 9 whatevr methyl , lethyl tren ) kill asl way too fast , hepatoxic , better testo year basis , safer , better , less side effect

suspension = water balloon , fuck it

nolvadex doesnt decrease gh , th exogenous mayb but that not the important one ( or vice versa) , those are thought from th 90"

estradiol great for transexual
you want to help i need fertility back in 18 months

estrgen is great i get that , but high blood pressure n side effect also , i prefer prop npp primobolan , fast acting since im 36 years old ,, younger 1 sustenon a day or 3 gr enan for aim to kick ass

hahaha

Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 06, 2011, 04:59:19 AM
LMAO !!

WTF Ben you never sleep ??

seems like you have been awake the whole night  ;D
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: no one on May 06, 2011, 05:00:31 AM


gh + keto = can keep gh til end


on a keto diet you run gh right up until your show?

so you dont carb up then? just curious wouldnt having the gh in cause water issues if you carb up in the last 2-3 days?
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Benoitlapierre on May 06, 2011, 05:16:09 AM
on a keto diet you run gh right up until your show?

so you dont carb up then? just curious wouldnt having the gh in cause water issues if you carb up in the last 2-3 days?

i carb up 12 hours a la dorian thursd , it full up ,, and no thiazide , no water retention , i go back right dieting friday to fix waist n shape ,,,, have sugar befor hit stage , saturday , both times ,, then strategical rebound mass keto once done

i do hiit til contest  , and i do deadlift cardio 10 x 20 in 20 min til contest

carb up more then 12 hours will b major bloating , it max out

use letro + aromasin + eq + prop + tren ace + primo + ephedrine gh til contest day / i do stop slin tho , stop npp deca enanthate 3 weeks out


that me at 7 week out , was 270 offseason , that pic 250 after 3 weeks dieting lost all water retention look like someone else, now 245 , will b 222-  ,,,, hopefully 225
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: gh15 on May 06, 2011, 05:17:13 AM
always count on food rather rthan shake,,eggwhites the only drink that can replace solid food,,rest should be real food,,the simple sugars post insulin ...i recomend pine apple juice dole in the little cans this is the best sugar around you wont find any better...all natural ....look at the islanders they take lots of pineapple....it also help to digestive system ,,and i can garentee you it protect the liver 10 times better than any liver 504982 pills,,

always count on real food ....eggwhite drinks are REAL FOOD,,protien shakes are not! real food

the insulina protocol of mutant is good but at the higher level we take MUCH MUCH MUCHHHH more...much more often ,,i also cant remember the last time i took creatine in any form..that garbage is only good for bloat...you want creatine? eat beef and or use oxandrolone...it will keep all your creatine in top number and will actualy get it in the muscle...im talking the little creatine your body get from natural foods and not from the garbage powder...bcaa waist...igf ...complete waist it increases guts sizes you dont want it..the insulina will do it with time but if used right with hgh it wont for quite sometime while you grow 20-30 lb,,

the protocol ill give you of insulina will come before the olympia,,,again mutant protocol is good but it wil put you at 210-220lb ripped not 240-250 ripped

higher does on everything ... both gh and insulina in particular ,,again yo need to know what you are doing with insulina because if you DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH HGH IN SYSTEM YOU WILL GET FAT!

gh15 approved
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: gh15 on May 06, 2011, 05:20:17 AM
now its true i said that protien shaqke is liek real food in past and body doenst recognize the difference....it is true,,but! always count on REAL food not because shake is not food...but because shakes makes you retain water...always ALWAYS make you hodl more water ,,water fucks up lines and i dont care how big you are if your lines are fucked you wil never look like bodybuilder

gh15 approved
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Benoitlapierre on May 06, 2011, 05:30:12 AM
LMAO !!

WTF Ben you never sleep ??

seems like you have been awake the whole night  ;D

nope i eat every 3 hours 24/7

goin shockwave therapy this morning tho , for scar tissue built up ... deep tissue massage or ART cant fix
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: buselmo on May 06, 2011, 05:57:15 AM
220 lbs here

adding GH at 5iu a soon as I get it
adding some testosterona back on
with insulona 2 times per day, highest dose I can take without dropping on the floor from lack of carbs

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=367574.0;attach=412502;image)

that's the best you've ever looked!
jacked as fuck bro!
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 06, 2011, 06:56:09 AM
that's the best you've ever looked!
jacked as fuck bro!
<


thanks bro !

I feel I look my best since I dropped the test and only use high dose of other products !

now that I enter the off-season I'll try high doses of deca to help a bit with the joints also since I train pretty often !

Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 06, 2011, 07:06:20 AM
You ain't finding out nothing and you ain't doing shit because you can't do shit. You are a seriously disturbed and delusional little fucktard that no one respects of even likes. You have never ever backed up or proved any of the claims or boast you constantly make. gh15 will be here as long as he wants to and you can make all the threats you want but in the end he's still eating sushi and you're still eating shit.


  YES, KEEP SUCKING ON THIS TROLL'S TINY PECKER YOU PHAGGOT. YOU ARE HIS BOTTOM BITCH. HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL? YOU HAVE NO INDIVIDUALITY, NO INTELLIGENCE, NO SELF-RESPECT. YOU BASICALLY ARE HERE TO SUCH ON TROLL "GH15" LITTLE DICK AND BE HIS BOTTOM BITCH. AT LEAST I HAVE SELF-RESPECT, SOMETHING YOU LACK. I AM NOT ANYONE'S LACKEY LIKE YOU. NOW GO PRACTICE YOUR BLOW JOB TECHNIQUE ON AN OLIVE. THAT IS ABOUT THE SIZE OF YOUR MASTER'S DICK.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Deicide on May 06, 2011, 07:10:04 AM
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 06, 2011, 07:11:29 AM
you are lucky i know youre not stable in the head kido,, if i really believd your words you woudl be in prison now under controled delivery of lots of hormones to your door step with out you  even knowing how it landed there,,it would be present from your mama,,
lunatik

gh15 approved

  YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DO SHIT. YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A STEROID DEALER, A FAILED BUM WHO IS THE SCUM OF SOCIETY. YOU ARE IMPOTENT TO DO ANYTHING BESIDES INJECT STUFF UP YOUR ASS - AND I KNOW YOU ENJOY THAT. I AM GOING TO FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE AND I AM EXPOSING YOU. I PROMISE IT. KEEP POSTING AS IT ALLLOWS ME TRACK YOU. THE MORE THE BETTER. I WILL LOVE THE LOOK OF DISAPPOINTEMENT IN YOUR BITCHES' FACES WHEN THEY REALISE THEIR IDOL IS A FAILED STEROID DEALER WHO NEVER WEIGHTED MORE THAN 170 LBS.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Deicide on May 06, 2011, 07:14:10 AM
 YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DO SHIT. YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A STEROID DEALER, A FAILED BUM WHO IS THE SCUM OF SOCIETY. YOU ARE IMPOTENT TO DO ANYTHING BESIDES INJECT STUFF UP YOUR ASS - AND I KNOW YOU ENJOY THAT. I AM GOING TO FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE AND I AM EXPOSING YOU. I PROMISE IT. KEEP POSTING AS IT ALLLOWS ME TRACK YOU. THE MORE THE BETTER. I WILL LOVE THE LOOK OF DISAPPOINTEMENT IN YOUR BITCHES' FACES WHEN THEY REALISE THEIR IDOL IS A FAILED STEROID DEALER WHO NEVER WEIGHTED MORE THAN 170 LBS.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: WillGrant on May 06, 2011, 07:29:40 AM
<


thanks bro !

I feel I look my best since I dropped the test and only use high dose of other products !

now that I enter the off-season I'll try high doses of deca to help a bit with the joints also since I train pretty often !


Nandralone makes me fucking tired  :-\ - plus bitchy  ;D
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 06, 2011, 07:42:13 AM
Nandralone makes me fucking tired  :-\ - plus bitchy  ;D
lmao, more bitchy than on Tren ???

haha
high doses of test make me tired usually, never did much deca exept 1 or 2 cc here and there

the old folks at my gym swear by deca
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: xpac2 on May 06, 2011, 07:44:46 AM
I'm sorry but you people are fucking retards for Listening to GH15. Hes a phony and you morons are putting your health on the line based on his advice?! Stupidest fucking people on the planet. Take a look at his first posts where he talks about craig titus he speaks perfect english..once he created his bullshit persona he started pretending he cudnt speak it..and you retards are listening to him!

Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 06, 2011, 07:54:22 AM
I'm sorry but you people are fucking retards for Listening to GH15. Hes a phony and you morons are putting your health on the line based on his advice?! Stupidest fucking people on the planet. Take a look at his first posts where he talks about craig titus he speaks perfect english..once he created his bullshit persona he started pretending he cudnt speak it..and you retards are listening to him!



  For fuck sakes, a guy who gets it. I am moved. :)

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 06, 2011, 07:57:34 AM
Why don't you just tell your pupils the proper way to use slin. Guys that are going to do it are going to do it. I don't think one can screw up much with AAS or HGH but it seems you can screw up royally with insulin. This is an example of an insulin protocol recommended by Mutant who many consider an authority on HGH and Slin and consequently many follow. Is this what pupil Stavios should be doing?

- -30 min prior to workout: Take 10iu HGH subq

 - -15 min prior to workout: Take 6-16iu Novalog subq

 - -10 min prior to workout: Drink shake #1

 - -After every working set: Sip on shake #2, and finish by end of workout

 - -Go home

 - -Take 100mcg of the IGF-1lr3 (for it's insulin sensitizing effects)

 - -Take down shake #3

 - -Done..now you are huge
 Ok, now what is in the shakes...

 Shake 1: 10-20g EAA's (Essential Amino Acids) or PeptoPro, 40-60g Low DE Maltodextrin, 5g Micronized Creatine Monohydrate, 200mg Caffeine (or pre-workout powdered mix of choice in place of caffeine)
 Thought for research to conclude if the most beneficial amount of carbs would be in the range of 7-10g per iu of insuline used. So at drink #1 with 4iu's being 28-40g of carbs and again with drink #2....keeping extra glucose tabs, sugar or whatever near as a back up should this not be enough.....

 Shake 2: 10-20g EAA's or PeptoPro, 50-100g Dextrose, 5g Micronized Creatine Monohydrate

 Shake 3: 2 cups pasteurized egg whites, 1 cup dry oats, 1 banana or 1 cup blueberries (I prefer them to be frozen), splenda or stevia



Hey Pellius, what I will be doing will be a little bit like that, the only difference is that post workout I prefer having a solid mea instead of a shake !

so I'll drink half my shake before the workout and sip on the rest during the workout , then afterward I'll have 2 cups of mashed potatoes with 250gr of horse meat.  I feel I have less chance of going hypo after the workout when I do this.

plus, shakes kinda taste bad after having so many (I train rtwice a day so 'ill shoot slin before the 2 workouts)
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: g101 on May 06, 2011, 08:34:45 AM
lmao, more bitchy than on Tren ???

haha
high doses of test make me tired usually, never did much deca exept 1 or 2 cc here and there

the old folks at my gym swear by deca

every1 in montreal uses deca lmao
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Trev on May 06, 2011, 08:43:46 AM
 YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DO SHIT. YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A STEROID DEALER, A FAILED BUM WHO IS THE SCUM OF SOCIETY. YOU ARE IMPOTENT TO DO ANYTHING BESIDES INJECT STUFF UP YOUR ASS - AND I KNOW YOU ENJOY THAT. I AM GOING TO FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE AND I AM EXPOSING YOU. I PROMISE IT. KEEP POSTING AS IT ALLLOWS ME TRACK YOU. THE MORE THE BETTER. I WILL LOVE THE LOOK OF DISAPPOINTEMENT IN YOUR BITCHES' FACES WHEN THEY REALISE THEIR IDOL IS A FAILED STEROID DEALER WHO NEVER WEIGHTED MORE THAN 170 LBS.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Watch the sun set tonight then get yourself laid dude. Life is great - Enjoy
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 06, 2011, 09:02:35 AM
every1 in montreal uses deca lmao

if you talk gear with somebody who is 45+ years old, you can be sure he uses deca  8)
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on May 06, 2011, 09:05:18 AM
What a crazy fuckin' thread ! LMAO !!! Goddamn ! Lol ! Stavios ... do WHATEVER the hell you want to do. Screw those that say you can't ! Do I condone what you plan to do ? Who gives a fuck !? Doesn't matter what I think ! Doesn't matter what ANYONE thinks but YOU ! LOL ! Props to you, brother, and good luck ! I"ll be cheerin' ya on.  ;)
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 06, 2011, 09:06:50 AM
What a crazy fuckin' thread ! LMAO !!! Goddamn ! Lol ! Stavios ... do WHATEVER the hell you want to do. Screw those that say you can't ! Do I condone what you plan to do ? Who gives a fuck !? Doesn't matter what I think ! Doesn't matter what ANYONE thinks but YOU ! LOL ! Props to you, brother, and good luck ! I"ll be cheerin' ya on.  ;)

This thread turned out good, great infos in there  8)

thanks for your support man  :D
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: mesmorph78 on May 06, 2011, 09:09:57 AM
  For fuck sakes, a guy who gets it. I am moved. :)

SUCKMYMUSCLE
people are sheep.... ive said this yrs ago

on the flip side stavios looks good ...
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Hulkotron on May 06, 2011, 09:20:39 AM
"Hardgainers" are the most irritating people in gym culture.

Also people who claim to have "fast metabolism".  Usually they are one and the same.  Another word for hardgainer is "weighs 165 lbs and eats 1900 kcals a day."  If you weigh X lbs and want to weigh Y lbs you have to eat like you weigh Y lbs, no MSN or CFT certifications required to obtain these knowledges.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: GroinkTropin on May 06, 2011, 10:01:14 AM


Best asot of all time.

Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Ursus on May 06, 2011, 10:01:32 AM
Stay safe Stavios!
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: GroinkTropin on May 06, 2011, 10:05:13 AM
always count on food rather rthan shake,,eggwhites the only drink that can replace solid food,,rest should be real food,,the simple sugars post insulin ...i recomend pine apple juice dole in the little cans this is the best sugar around you wont find any better...all natural ....look at the islanders they take lots of pineapple....it also help to digestive system ,,and i can garentee you it protect the liver 10 times better than any liver 504982 pills,,

always count on real food ....eggwhite drinks are REAL FOOD,,protien shakes are not! real food

the insulina protocol of mutant is good but at the higher level we take MUCH MUCH MUCHHHH more...much more often ,,i also cant remember the last time i took creatine in any form..that garbage is only good for bloat...you want creatine? eat beef and or use oxandrolone...it will keep all your creatine in top number and will actualy get it in the muscle...im talking the little creatine your body get from natural foods and not from the garbage powder...bcaa waist...igf ...complete waist it increases guts sizes you dont want it..the insulina will do it with time but if used right with hgh it wont for quite sometime while you grow 20-30 lb,,

the protocol ill give you of insulina will come before the olympia,,,again mutant protocol is good but it wil put you at 210-220lb ripped not 240-250 ripped

higher does on everything ... both gh and insulina in particular ,,again yo need to know what you are doing with insulina because if you DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH HGH IN SYSTEM YOU WILL GET FAT!

gh15 approved

So much truth here...I used to run Max Muscle and we sold digestive enzymes that were- you guessed it, derived from pinneapples.

GH15 is the fountain of truth on getbig.com
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Meso_z on May 06, 2011, 10:16:25 AM
"Hardgainers" are the most irritating people in gym culture.

Also people who claim to have "fast metabolism".  Usually they are one and the same.  Another word for hardgainer is "weighs 165 lbs and eats 1900 kcals a day."  If you weigh X lbs and want to weigh Y lbs you have to eat like you weigh Y lbs, no MSN or CFT certifications required to obtain these knowledges.
hahaha qft!
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 06, 2011, 10:22:23 AM
"Hardgainers" are the most irritating people in gym culture.

Also people who claim to have "fast metabolism".  Usually they are one and the same.  Another word for hardgainer is "weighs 165 lbs and eats 1900 kcals a day."  If you weigh X lbs and want to weigh Y lbs you have to eat like you weigh Y lbs, no MSN or CFT certifications required to obtain these knowledges.

I agree to some extent.

it's easy to gain "weight", I could get up to 260 fucking easily if I wanted

but it would not be a pretty 260 at all :D
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Benoitlapierre on May 06, 2011, 10:51:23 AM
I agree to some extent.

it's easy to gain "weight", I could get up to 260 fucking easily if I wanted

but it would not be a pretty 260 at all :D

it doesnt matter because when it' a year your holding it , it look better n you handle it well , at your height it 300 not less , tall n long legs ,,

 full up with food
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Benoitlapierre on May 06, 2011, 10:53:23 AM
My post had little to do with "hardgainers" in the first place, it was aimed at non-responders to AAS. You know, the guys who have to run high doses and gain very little, even with good diet and training.

Hardgainers need one thing and one thing only- weight gainers made with ice cream instead of milk or water.

Helped many a twink put on size doing exactly that over the years. One I got from 130 to 180 in less than 6 months (also he was taking that shit from gaspari that's not around anymore, the hell was it called- Halodrol (when it contained turinabol). That was it, halodrol and ice cream and weight gainer shakes. Worked perfectly. elp

If you are a non-responder to AAS you either have shit insulin sensitivity or low AR proliferation, estrogen will help trust me.

not true high dose 3-4 gr enan --- what ppls may think it high dose n it just normal result 1000mg

it a question of ethics , ppls under estimate natural testo , and over estimate steroid meaning they think coleman take 1000gr testo and 5ui

living th dream , living th lie


if you have crap genetic , you can buy genetic

most pro dont have genetic per say they have myostatin blocker deficiencies
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: local hero on May 06, 2011, 10:59:07 AM
benoit the new gh15............
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Benoitlapierre on May 06, 2011, 11:14:20 AM
benoit the new gh15............


that b honor , i doubt i deserve that one , i did follow th honesty mission since 3 years ,

sincerely thk u
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: gh15 on May 06, 2011, 12:35:18 PM
this is good thred aside from suckmuscle episodes of insanity lol ,,lots of information here,,good thred

gh15 approved
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Meso_z on May 06, 2011, 12:47:10 PM
it doesnt matter because when it' a year your holding it , it look better n you handle it well , at your height it 300 not less , tall n long legs ,,

 full up with food
Stavio's structure seems to be able to carry a lot of muscle..hes tall and wide.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: pellius on May 06, 2011, 12:52:44 PM
  YES, KEEP SUCKING ON THIS TROLL'S TINY PECKER YOU PHAGGOT. YOU ARE HIS BOTTOM BITCH. HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL? YOU HAVE NO INDIVIDUALITY, NO INTELLIGENCE, NO SELF-RESPECT. YOU BASICALLY ARE HERE TO SUCH ON TROLL "GH15" LITTLE DICK AND BE HIS BOTTOM BITCH. AT LEAST I HAVE SELF-RESPECT, SOMETHING YOU LACK. I AM NOT ANYONE'S LACKEY LIKE YOU. NOW GO PRACTICE YOUR BLOW JOB TECHNIQUE ON AN OLIVE. THAT IS ABOUT THE SIZE OF YOUR MASTER'S DICK.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

You have nothing. You're a joke here. Not a single person takes you seriously. You are mentally ill. Your threats to gh15 and others are meaningless. Nothing will come of it. Nothing has ever come from anything you say.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 06, 2011, 12:56:35 PM
Stavio's structure seems to be able to carry a lot of muscle..hes tall and wide.
I am not "that" tall, I just have super long limbs. 
Legs and arms are way too long for my body,  so I need to get to 250+ in good condition, or 300 maybe Like Benoit said but 300 must feel like death :D

I will be very happy with a solide 240, wich is already much bigger than I am now
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 06, 2011, 01:00:20 PM
BTW, I DEMAND that this thread becomes a sticky, solid info from GHona15, Big BLP and Methyl Mike.

Every steroids abuser who is willing to risk his liver for the dream could learn from this thread.

To quote the great movie 300: "GETBIGGERS !!! TONIGHT WE DINE WITH A KIDNEY FAILURE !!! "
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Boost on May 06, 2011, 01:04:47 PM
You got a license for those guns?

Dominating the boardroom, bedroom and weight room. Living the dream in his clean white Nike's.

Say goodbye to the noodle arms of the past. It's "Heavy artillery" time as Stavios sports a pair of bulging bazookas, ready to blow up the competition at the Canadian Nationals.



Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Hulkotron on May 06, 2011, 01:43:04 PM
Stav what is your height?
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 06, 2011, 02:06:18 PM
Stav what is your height?

between 5'10 1/2 and 5'11

I'll have to check it out I have mesured myself in a while !
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: gh15 on May 06, 2011, 02:30:27 PM
between 5'10 1/2 and 5'11

I'll have to check it out I have mesured myself in a while !

5'10 and 4/5 of an inch... lol you look 5'11 ,,its good height5'10 to 6' perfect for bodybuild,,5'8 5'9 seem to be the ones who blow up the best....btu if a 5'10 or over does it ....he look much more impressive

gh15 approved
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: el numero uno on May 06, 2011, 02:35:20 PM
LOL @ SMM getting owned by everyone on this thread.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Brocty on May 06, 2011, 02:35:30 PM
6'1 sucks for filling out :(

Feel like i'm walking on stilts
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Benoitlapierre on May 06, 2011, 03:32:22 PM
Well test at doses above 1 gram completely inhibits cortisol production, that should do the trick.

Forgot about myostatin, completely forgot about it. You have a very valid point. Not sure if there are any suppression drugs that work yet, guess some people will just be SOL for the time being.

FWIW if you don't respond to 1 gram of test EW you should not be concerned about getting huge and running higher doses...

follistatin ,, good luck found th real one tho
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 06, 2011, 05:42:41 PM
I shot 15iu of Humalog before training, feel awesome

already getting swole, I drank a lot of water with it too to attain maximum fullness

usually in 3-4 days I should have gained 10 lbs already of glycogen and water retention
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Benoitlapierre on May 06, 2011, 06:03:35 PM
I shot 15iu of Humalog before training, feel awesome

already getting swole, I drank a lot of water with it too to attain maximum fullness

usually in 3-4 days I should have gained 10 lbs already of glycogen and water retention

pls get humulin N too !!!! only 35$
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: DK II on May 06, 2011, 06:07:19 PM
BTW, I DEMAND that this thread becomes a sticky, solid info from GHona15, Big BLP and Methyl Mike.

Every steroids abuser who is willing to risk his liver for the dream could learn from this thread.

To quote the great movie 300: "GETBIGGERS !!! TONIGHT WE DINE WITH A KIDNEY FAILURE !!! "

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: dogma5914 on May 06, 2011, 06:46:35 PM
BTW, I DEMAND that this thread becomes a sticky, solid info from GHona15, Big BLP and Methyl Mike.

Every steroids abuser who is willing to risk his liver for the dream could learn from this thread.

To quote the great movie 300: "GETBIGGERS !!! TONIGHT WE DINE WITH A KIDNEY FAILURE !!! "

I like this post until the whole dine on kidney failure bit. You're crazy for that :)


Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: unskinny on May 06, 2011, 06:56:30 PM
Dead by 73.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: pellius on May 06, 2011, 07:29:21 PM
I shot 15iu of Humalog before training, feel awesome

already getting swole, I drank a lot of water with it too to attain maximum fullness

usually in 3-4 days I should have gained 10 lbs already of glycogen and water retention

Why wouldn't you shoot Humalog after you train when you are more depleted and can pound more carbs/protein.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: WillGrant on May 06, 2011, 07:37:37 PM


Don't believe me, prove me wrong...
Two words NATURAL PRO///.You are deluded , not hating on you mate , I dont care how long you have been on the boards - you shoot yourself in the foot from post to post - You say you are going to be a natural pro because you have god given genetics yet the pics I saw with you standing with your Pop you are a skinny fat guy - pure ecto/endo properties.

You say you have run all these compounds in the past so again you cannot be a "natural" - I point out to you that BLP knows his shit from walking the walk where as you get your info from google - it doesnt matter that that info is not from google you have in two posts said you got your info from being on the boards from all these years and from listening to others so again you do not walk the walk and that is just on par with google imo..

I saw you sprouting some bullshit about fats not interfering with blood glucose or your body releasing slin when you eat fat's - Van rightfully pointed out to you if this was the case then we now have a cure for diabetes.. Let me tell you something for free your body does release insulin when you eat fat's because fats do raise sugar levels - dont beleive me , prove me wrong - be aware I know more about insulin than you ever will - you need a good dose of realism...again not hating on you but until you have tryed stuff on yourself dont sit here as an authority figure on things you have only picked up from reading on the net and then try and argue with guys that have been doing this stuff on themselves for years.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: WillGrant on May 06, 2011, 07:52:05 PM
lmao, more bitchy than on Tren ???

haha
high doses of test make me tired usually, never did much deca exept 1 or 2 cc here and there

the old folks at my gym swear by deca
Im ok on tren unless I have alot of stress going on in my life then I just have to get off it full stop or I go on an emotional roller coaster ride  ;D

Nandralone just leaves me feeling blah - like theres a dark cloud hanging over me and I feel like a hormonal woman  ;D though I tryed running it again over the last 8 weeks but with something I saw No One say about adding 5-htp to tren and it works - it sort of null's that dark feeling - you really dont feel anything just neutral so that helped me this time but I had to stop it as it reeally does kill my energy levels - my ass drags and in the gym between sets I just feel like shit - I have always had this on deca , just my body chemistry i guess.

On your pics mate - I think you look fantastic as you are - you have come along way over the last couple of years.
Im not sure what your back and legs look like but really I dont think you have to add huge amounts of extra size - just be carefull you dont ruin your lines and put on to much mass for your frame - at present you are holding it well and 5-10 lean pounds in the right places you will look unbeatable - you have tiny joints, small waist and hips and good bellies so will always cast an illusion of weighing 20 odd pounds more than you are - you at 220-230pds on stage will look unreal bro..well done  :) 8)
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Jack T. Cross on May 06, 2011, 08:08:32 PM
My post had little to do with "hardgainers" in the first place, it was aimed at non-responders to AAS. You know, the guys who have to run high doses and gain very little, even with good diet and training.


Translation: They're getting bunk shit.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Benoitlapierre on May 06, 2011, 08:20:27 PM
Translation: They're getting bunk shit.

bunk shit doesnt exist in canada ,,
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Jack T. Cross on May 06, 2011, 08:46:23 PM
bunk shit doesnt exist in canada ,,

 ??? ??? ???

Remind me to move to Canada immediately.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: The.Giant on May 06, 2011, 09:02:04 PM
bunk shit doesnt exist in canada ,,

Makes sense. In Canada there were huge bodybuilders everywhere. Here in Australia everyone's tiny by comparison.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 07, 2011, 02:28:53 AM
Why wouldn't you shoot Humalog after you train when you are more depleted and can pound more carbs/protein.

Humalog still spike for a few hours so it's still effective post workout even if I shoot it before  8)
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 07, 2011, 02:31:22 AM
On your pics mate - I think you look fantastic as you are - you have come along way over the last couple of years.
Im not sure what your back and legs look like but really I dont think you have to add huge amounts of extra size - just be carefull you dont ruin your lines and put on to much mass for your frame - at present you are holding it well and 5-10 lean pounds in the right places you will look unbeatable - you have tiny joints, small waist and hips and good bellies so will always cast an illusion of weighing 20 odd pounds more than you are - you at 220-230pds on stage will look unreal bro..well done  :) 8)

thanks man !  :D
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 07, 2011, 02:32:25 AM
pls get humulin N too !!!! only 35$

they only want to sell me humalog at the drug store haha, I don't know why !
but my buddy is diabetic he will get me a bottle of humulin !
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: pellius on May 07, 2011, 03:50:48 AM
they only want to sell me humalog at the drug store haha, I don't know why !
but my buddy is diabetic he will get me a bottle of humulin !

In the States you need a script for Humalog. Humulin is OTC.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: TheGift... on May 07, 2011, 04:16:48 AM
I shot 15iu of Humalog before training, feel awesome

already getting swole, I drank a lot of water with it too to attain maximum fullness

usually in 3-4 days I should have gained 10 lbs already of glycogen and water retention
What are your macros in the diet - pro carb fat?
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: claymore on May 07, 2011, 04:23:05 AM
Why wouldn't you shoot Humalog after you train when you are more depleted and can pound more carbs/protein.

Trust me pre workout is the way to go.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: dustin on May 07, 2011, 04:44:44 AM
this is good thred aside from suckmuscle episodes of insanity lol ,,lots of information here,,good thred

gh15 approved

I'm grateful to have all you crazy fucks here too. I'm no sticky stud like Stav but I'm definitely getting jacked as shit from all the real world advices.

Fuck suckmymuscle too. Bitter old fuck. Probably looks and feels like shit. He should read the gh15 bible. 8)
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Schmoe Buster on May 07, 2011, 05:37:33 AM
I'm grateful to have all you crazy fucks here too. I'm no sticky stud like Stav but I'm definitely getting jacked as shit from all the real world advices.

Fuck suckmymuscle too. Bitter old fuck. Probably looks and feels like shit. He should read the gh15 bible. 8)

Yeah fuck sucksboyscocks, if he doesnt like this why does he just not read and post in it ::) that queer has really nothing going on in his gay life ::)

since last year i have followed the gh15 bible and i have made more improvements in that time than in all the years before then, those that dont like gh15 shut the fuck up or why dont you try his protocols because it works, most likely these haters are too pussy and are not true bodybuilders

15iu per day gh15 approved HGH

Trenbolona Ace,Masterona,Equipona,testosterona (cycled) add in some anapolona and dianbolona now and then, all you can eat gh buffet, good training, 6 months you are champ of your gym :D and contender for local title bodybuilding.

stay away from slin ;)
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Benoitlapierre on May 07, 2011, 07:00:00 AM
In the States you need a script for Humalog. Humulin is OTC.

just buy from a canadian website , they will ship to you no question ask , it legal
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Benoitlapierre on May 07, 2011, 07:01:33 AM
Trust me pre workout is the way to go.

true n not, ever try 2 gr testo with humalog trust me ,,, you sleep a hour , on a bigger cycle it made me sleepy
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Benoitlapierre on May 07, 2011, 07:03:03 AM
Dead by 73.

by 55 ,,, but who' care ,, who' want to live at 73 ?,, ewwwww , weak n frail , time to leave earth
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 07, 2011, 10:24:26 AM
Yeah fuck sucksboyscocks, if he doesnt like this why does he just not read and post in it ::) that queer has really nothing going on in his gay life ::)

since last year i have followed the gh15 bible and i have made more improvements in that time than in all the years before then, those that dont like gh15 shut the fuck up or why dont you try his protocols because it works, most likely these haters are too pussy and are not true bodybuilders

15iu per day gh15 approved HGH

Trenbolona Ace,Masterona,Equipona,testosterona (cycled) add in some anapolona and dianbolona now and then, all you can eat gh buffet, good training, 6 months you are champ of your gym :D and contender for local title bodybuilding.

stay away from slin ;)

GH15's advices are great but sometimes you gotta go with what you have in your pocket !

so for now I do what I can afford
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Schmoe Buster on May 07, 2011, 12:13:12 PM
GH15's advices are great but sometimes you gotta go with what you have in your pocket !

so for now I do what I can afford

Well you are doing very well with what you can afford, if you are going off season now then get yourself cheaper stuff like Test and Deca, Dbol, take as much of it as you can handle, GH 5-6IU per day, if you can only afford 2IU still good enough, i know you like Slin so thats nice and cheap and can help you add the 20lbs you want, eat big train big then 6 months out from your next contest Tren A,Mast,EQ,Prop and more GH, save money now for that or buy vial or two when you got some spare $$$ and save them until next contest prep ;)
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Natural Man on May 07, 2011, 12:37:20 PM
WTF !

I don't "hate" the world ??

I just like to do whatever the fuck I want that makes me happy

to each his own
actually you re doing what you re father wish he had done. You re programmed to follow a path and it's automatic. No free will here.

but thanks for clearing it up for us. You re following your dad steps and you ll end an even shittier way and maybe even sooner. no need to tell us  what you think about women either, i guess it s simply what you fahter told you... Any insights on why your parents divorced? lemme guess ... he cheated on her?


And the icing on the cake... you dont want kids, it's a waste of time right?  :) Just what your father always thought of...spwaning you . And you got the message 5/5.


The whole behavior is borderline suicidal, a need to play with your own life, and...with death, due to not being loved by your father. What reasonable father advises his kid to inject steroids and focus on bodybuilding seriously? Even arnold S. will never advise his sons to follow that path.

BTW how are studies going?
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 07, 2011, 12:57:34 PM
actually you re doing what you re father wish he had done. You re programmed to follow a path and it's automatic. No free will here.

but thanks for clearing it up for us. You re following your dad steps and you ll end an even shittier way and maybe even sooner. no need to tell us  what you think about women either, i guess it s simply what you fahter told you... Any insights on why your parents divorced? lemme guess ... he cheated on her?


And the icing on the cake... you dont want kids, it's a waste of time right?  :) Just what your father always thought of...spwaning you . And you got the message 5/5.


The whole behavior is borderline suicidal, a need to play with your own life, and...with death, due to not being loved by your father. What reasonable father advises his kid to inject steroids and focus on bodybuilding seriously? Even arnold S. will never advise his sons to follow that path.

BTW how are studies going?

No my dad didn't cheat on my mom, actually he is still in love with her even after all those years and even if my mother moved on.
pretty sad actually, I feel bad for him.
it was my mom that wanted to divorced, but I don't blame her since my dad is kinda hard to "live" with.
Very very negative person, it drains a lot of energy having a discussion with him

haha I know people hate when you analyse them but that's fucking impressive IMO, pretty right I think with some of your comments.

a girl friend of mine is a psychologist and she does that to me all the time, she seems to know my past even if I don't tell her, that's fucked up !

Studies are going bad, well I took a break for the winter session as motivation was gone. seems after 3 sessions I didn't learn shit and it was pissing me off, I had good scores tho !

I might go back this fall, still thinking about it.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Natural Man on May 07, 2011, 01:03:47 PM
it's called maniaco depressive disorder/behavior and it's genetical, it's a mental disorder/disease which can be reinforced by environment and bad behaviors from the care givers during childhood and adolescence. my advice; listen to your mother instead of your father. He wants everyone to die but himself, and he's ready to see you die before himself.

Read about it.  
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 07, 2011, 01:06:12 PM
it's called maniaco depressive disorder/behavior and it's genetical, can be reinforced by environment and bad behaviors from the care givers. my advice; listen to your mother instead of your father.

Read about it.

are you saying i have that or my father has ?

I tought I was like this, but then after reading about did and having a class about mental problems at school, seems to me it didn't correspond with myself.

I have the depressive phase quite often but never "maniac" phase ( the high phase )
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Natural Man on May 07, 2011, 01:09:11 PM
are you saying i have that or my father has ?

I tought I was like this, but then after reading about did and having a class about mental problems at school, seems to me it didn't correspond with myself.

I have the depressive phase quite often but never "maniac" phase ( the high phase )

Both of you might have it. It's genetical. It is reinforced by weather, it's called cyclotymie or something like this. There are majors crises during adolescence, one nearing the 30s and one in the 40s if you make it trhu the first ones. Life span of people diagnosed with it is often 10 years shorter than other people.

There is clearely something wrong, it's a destructive behavior, and there is no doubt in my mind benoit lapierre has exactly the same issue.

You should date your gf who s a psy and listen to your mother. And consider anti depressants and a psychotherapy to get rid of the influences of your father.

It's ok to lift weight, to take steroids isnt. It's an extremistic and suicidal behavior which is underlied by deep, enkysted traumas from childhood burried deep in your subconscious and major and repeated neglecting acts from your father toward you. People with such a father often have troubles being successful in studies or work and are awkyard in social situations, they didnt learn how to interact correctly with others learning mostly from their father figure how to interact. They often have a very low self esteem and think they cant achieve anything. They feel like they have to follow their father steps for some reasons, that they have to be faithful to him even if his influence is killing them.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on May 07, 2011, 01:15:41 PM
Both of you might have it. It's genetical. It is reinforced by weather, it's called cyclotymie or something like this. There are majors crises during adolescence, one nearing the 30s and one in the 40s if you make it trhu the first ones. Life span of people diagnosed with it is often 10 years shorter than other people.

There is clearely something wrong, it's a destructive behavior, and there is no doubt in my mind benoit lapierre has exactly the same issue.

You should date your gf who s a psy and listen to your mother. And consider anti depressants and a psychotherapy to get rid of the influences of your father.

It's ok to lift weight, to take steroids isnt. It's an extremistic and suicidal behavior which is underlied by deep, enkysted traumas from childhood burried deep in your subconscious and major and repeated neglecting acts from your father toward you.
Stavios, How much you paying for these psych sessions?
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: kyomu on May 07, 2011, 02:14:58 PM
Hey, Stav.
Congrats to your great achivement.
But,be careful......you know what i am talking about...
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on May 07, 2011, 02:21:44 PM
Hey, Stav.
Congrats to your great achivement.
But,be careful......you know what i am talking about...
KARATE CHOP!!!!
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: dustin on May 07, 2011, 07:04:51 PM
just buy from a canadian website , they will ship to you no question ask , it legal

Yeah they ship with cold packs and shit. You fuckers. I'm thinking of grabbing some now.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 07, 2011, 07:12:16 PM
  It is amazing how many stupid people post on Getbig and believe the advice of a troll/gimmick like this GH15 dumbass. I hope the morons who follow him either die with their internal organs busting out or get AIDS from an infected needle.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: pellius on May 07, 2011, 07:28:52 PM
just buy from a canadian website , they will ship to you no question ask , it legal

I'm past the age for mutation. I wish I had this board twenty five years ago. But I'm glad to see guys with some zest for life and willing to push the envelope. Life is more than just health, safety and longevity. Not that I think one should be reckless but I find little appeal in just focusing on how long I can be on this planet and take up space and resources. Sometimes you want to test yourself and see what you can do even if it means you have to take some risks. Nothing in life is risk free and there seems to be an innate desire in men to leave their mark. To plant their flag and say, "I was here, bitches! Don't you forget it!"

All "ona" and sushi.
 
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 07, 2011, 07:36:08 PM
I'm past the age for mutation.

  That's funny. Judging from your posts, I assumed you were in puberty and just about to enter your growth spurt phase.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: pellius on May 07, 2011, 07:44:05 PM
  That's funny. Judging from your posts, I assumed you were in puberty and just about to enter your growth spurt phase.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Your disturbing meltdowns are becoming more and more hilarious ... and pathetic.

You're a joke here.

Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: notsureifsrs on May 07, 2011, 10:30:51 PM
No my dad didn't cheat on my mom, actually he is still in love with her even after all those years and even if my mother moved on.
pretty sad actually, I feel bad for him.
it was my mom that wanted to divorced, but I don't blame her since my dad is kinda hard to "live" with.
Very very negative person, it drains a lot of energy having a discussion with him

haha I know people hate when you analyse them but that's fucking impressive IMO, pretty right I think with some of your comments.

a girl friend of mine is a psychologist and she does that to me all the time, she seems to know my past even if I don't tell her, that's fucked up !

Studies are going bad, well I took a break for the winter session as motivation was gone. seems after 3 sessions I didn't learn shit and it was pissing me off, I had good scores tho !

I might go back this fall, still thinking about it.
What did you study?
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 07, 2011, 10:40:05 PM
Your disturbing meltdowns are becoming more and more hilarious ... and pathetic.

You're a joke here.



  Dude, you are the bottom of Getbig's pecking order. A complete non-entity. I didn't even know who you were before I read this thread. You have only about two K posts less than me, and yet I assure you that I am much better known than you. For all I care, you are only one of GH15's sycophants(bitches). At least I am my own man and don't live in the shadow of another one. Who is pathetic again? ;)

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: no one on May 07, 2011, 10:44:44 PM

  Who is pathetic again? ;)


that would be you.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 07, 2011, 10:45:33 PM
You have nothing. You're a joke here. Not a single person takes you seriously. You are mentally ill. Your threats to gh15 and others are meaningless. Nothing will come of it. Nothing has ever come from anything you say.


  You got it everything wrong, phaggot. I have never threatened anyone here, so of course nothing has come out of it. You are the first one I am threatening. You can absolutely sure I will do some nasty shit to you. I don't know what yet, but I wiill get you, dude. You can be sure of that. Even if it takes a long time, I am going to do something really bad to you and then when you ask yourself why I will remind you of the promise I made to get you.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 07, 2011, 10:46:32 PM
that would be you.

  This coming from the guy who calls himself "no one". I really think your username suits you. ;)

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: no one on May 07, 2011, 10:49:53 PM
  This coming from the guy who calls himself "no one". I really think your username suits you. ;)

SUCKMYMUSCLE

sure does, genius.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: outby43 on May 07, 2011, 10:54:15 PM
 You got it everything wrong, phaggot. I have never threatened anyone here, so of course nothing has come out of it. You are the first one I am threatening. You can absolutely sure I will do some nasty shit to you. I don't know what yet, but I wiill get you, dude. You can be sure of that. Even if it takes a long time, I am going to do something really bad to you and then when you ask yourself why I will remind you of the promise I made to get you.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

dude...Pellius, a man of Honor and Respect,  has been fighting in the ring for 30 years.  He would destroy you in a matter of seconds.

What do you do to these kids to make them meltdown so much Pellius?  ???
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Schmoe Buster on May 07, 2011, 11:50:09 PM
dude...Pellius, a man of Honor and Respect,  has been fighting in the ring for 30 years.  He would destroy you in a matter of seconds.

What do you do to these kids to make them meltdown so much Pellius?  ???

X2, Pellius owns minds
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: pellius on May 08, 2011, 03:05:45 AM
 You got it everything wrong, phaggot. I have never threatened anyone here, so of course nothing has come out of it. You are the first one I am threatening. You can absolutely sure I will do some nasty shit to you. I don't know what yet, but I wiill get you, dude. You can be sure of that. Even if it takes a long time, I am going to do something really bad to you and then when you ask yourself why I will remind you of the promise I made to get you.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

How soon you forget. Since you've never backed up any of your claims or threats you only reinforce what an utter joke you are. First I thought you were just a kook now it's clear you really are mentally disturbed. So sad. But your meltdowns have become most entertaining.

 I AM GOING TO FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE, YOU FUCKING SON OF A C.U.N.T AND I PROMISE I WILL EXPOSE YOU FOR THE FRAUD YOU ARE!!!!!!!!!!! I AM TIRED OF YOU POLLUTING MY BOARD WITH YOUR GARBAGE. I WILL FIND YOU. I PROMISE IT. I WILL DEDICATE ALL MY RESOURCES TO EXPOSING YOU. IT WILL GIVE ME GREAT SATISFACTION TO REMOVE YOUR MASK AND SEE YOU EXPOSED AND IN SHAME. GH15, YOU FUCKING BITCH, STOP POLLUTING MY BOARD WITH YOUR PATHETIC ESSAYS ON DRUG USE. THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE. THIS IS A CEASE AND DESIST ORDER.  I AM ORDERING YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DO YOU HEAR ME???!!!!! I AM MAKING THIS VERY CLEAR TO YOU. I DO NOT WANT YOU POSTING HERE ANYMORE, AND YOU WILL OBEY ME. YOU WILL. NOW...FUCK OFF.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: DK II on May 08, 2011, 03:07:20 AM
Well you are doing very well with what you can afford, if you are going off season now then get yourself cheaper stuff like Test and Deca, Dbol, take as much of it as you can handle, GH 5-6IU per day, if you can only afford 2IU still good enough, i know you like Slin so thats nice and cheap and can help you add the 20lbs you want, eat big train big then 6 months out from your next contest Tren A,Mast,EQ,Prop and more GH, save money now for that or buy vial or two when you got some spare $$$ and save them until next contest prep ;)

solid advice here!
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: pellius on May 08, 2011, 03:25:08 AM
 You got it everything wrong, phaggot. I have never threatened anyone here, so of course nothing has come out of it. You are the first one I am threatening. You can absolutely sure I will do some nasty shit to you. I don't know what yet, but I wiill get you, dude. You can be sure of that. Even if it takes a long time, I am going to do something really bad to you and then when you ask yourself why I will remind you of the promise I made to get you.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

You know, I just noticed you called me a phaggot. Now you've done it. Now you've really done it. Now you can be absolutely sure that you will pay for this insult. However long it takes and what ever it takes you will pay. You will pay dearly. Mark this date. Mark this date now you pathetic son of a bitch. I make this promise to you. I make this solemn oath in full accordance with the laws of Bushido to which I am sworn. Sometime between now, the very moment you read this declaration, and the next 50 years, I promise you as God as my witness, I will see to it that you are dead. You will die either a miserable violent death, a quiet death in your sleep,  an uneventful death (say a heart attack) or maybe a quirky funny twist of fate death (say something like choking on a roast beef sandwich) -- BUT YOU WILL DIE!

And then when you ask yourself why you are dead I will remind you of this promise that I made.
 
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: DK II on May 08, 2011, 03:32:13 AM
You know, I just noticed you called me a phaggot. Now you've done it. Now you've really done it. Now you can be absolutely sure that you will pay for this insult. However long it takes and what ever it takes you will pay. You will pay dearly. Mark this date. Mark this date now you pathetic son of a bitch. I make this promise to you. I make this solemn oath in full accordance with the laws of Bushido to which I am sworn. Sometime between now, the very moment you read this declaration, and the next 50 years, I promise you as God as my witness, I will see to it that you are dead. You will die either a miserable violent death, a quiet death in your sleep,  an uneventful death (say a heart attack) or maybe a quirky funny twist of fate death (say something like choking on a roast beef sandwich) -- BUT YOU WILL DIE!

And then when you ask yourself why you are dead I will remind you of this promise that I made.
 

Internet is serious death wishing business.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: wavelength on May 08, 2011, 04:03:38 AM
WOW ^^^
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 08, 2011, 08:47:02 AM
Internet is serious death wishing business.  ;D ;D

LMAO !

Getbig or die
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Wiggs on May 08, 2011, 08:56:02 AM
You know, I just noticed you called me a phaggot. Now you've done it. Now you've really done it. Now you can be absolutely sure that you will pay for this insult. However long it takes and what ever it takes you will pay. You will pay dearly. Mark this date. Mark this date now you pathetic son of a bitch. I make this promise to you. I make this solemn oath in full accordance with the laws of Bushido to which I am sworn. Sometime between now, the very moment you read this declaration, and the next 50 years, I promise you as God as my witness, I will see to it that you are dead. You will die either a miserable violent death, a quiet death in your sleep,  an uneventful death (say a heart attack) or maybe a quirky funny twist of fate death (say something like choking on a roast beef sandwich) -- BUT YOU WILL DIE!

And then when you ask yourself why you are dead I will remind you of this promise that I made.
 


lol
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: el numero uno on May 08, 2011, 08:56:15 AM
You know, I just noticed you called me a phaggot. Now you've done it. Now you've really done it. Now you can be absolutely sure that you will pay for this insult. However long it takes and what ever it takes you will pay. You will pay dearly. Mark this date. Mark this date now you pathetic son of a bitch. I make this promise to you. I make this solemn oath in full accordance with the laws of Bushido to which I am sworn. Sometime between now, the very moment you read this declaration, and the next 50 years, I promise you as God as my witness, I will see to it that you are dead. You will die either a miserable violent death, a quiet death in your sleep,  an uneventful death (say a heart attack) or maybe a quirky funny twist of fate death (say something like choking on a roast beef sandwich) -- BUT YOU WILL DIE!

And then when you ask yourself why you are dead I will remind you of this promise that I made.
 

I would say that for SMM is more likely a death by choking on a cock
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: jaejonna on May 08, 2011, 09:00:27 AM
Go big or go home.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: lovemonkey on May 08, 2011, 09:02:16 AM
Go big or go home.

You obviously went home... to asia  ::)
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 08, 2011, 01:20:30 PM
I would say that for SMM is more likely a death by choking on a cock

  Your mother's clitoris is still not quite that big, but yeah
I might eventually choke on that. I bet your forehead rubbed against that huge thing as you were born.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 08, 2011, 02:23:46 PM
You know, I just noticed you called me a phaggot. Now you've done it. Now you've really done it. Now you can be absolutely sure that you will pay for this insult. However long it takes and what ever it takes you will pay. You will pay dearly. Mark this date. Mark this date now you pathetic son of a bitch. I make this promise to you. I make this solemn oath in full accordance with the laws of Bushido to which I am sworn. Sometime between now, the very moment you read this declaration, and the next 50 years, I promise you as God as my witness, I will see to it that you are dead. You will die either a miserable violent death, a quiet death in your sleep,  an uneventful death (say a heart attack) or maybe a quirky funny twist of fate death (say something like choking on a roast beef sandwich) -- BUT YOU WILL DIE!

And then when you ask yourself why you are dead I will remind you of this promise that I made.
 

  My threat to you and my promise to fulfill it has been made. I have nothing more to say.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: GroinkTropin on May 08, 2011, 02:48:13 PM
Mods please delete all the flames from this thread.

Or just move them to their own thread.

I am dead serious as well, it needs to be done.

I moderate from time to time, and I would carried out said actions already.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: asbrus on May 08, 2011, 03:16:19 PM
dont listen to the few here who tell you storys about  not livign till 60 or 80 yada yada,, arnold did both recs and hormones and sit at 65 year old and doing quite ok so he passed 50 and 60....and he did more than hormones! because then no one cared ,,again he did not ABUSE recs...he did not abuse pain killer ...he did not abuse drinking....but he sure did his weed with his aas...


now,,the fellas here who talk abotu short life are talking out of their ass,,they confuse abusing other drugs and substances with hormones,,those are the felas who truly shorten their lifes,,plenty bodybuilders living to see age 80 and 90 and this generation probably even 100 and maybe even more... its the ones who got into big abuse of other drugs with the hormones that had problems but guess what ...tom prince still alive and is ok ,,look like shit but is breathing and living life....same for many others ,,,ken wheeler still alive and walk around and come to shows and active and stil inject shit! ,,

its nto so easy to die from hormones,,you really really need to inject that hormone into the heart directly in mega doses to due from it,,that mean find the main artary and inject the all trenbolona bottle into the heart ....then you may die,,sad thing is ...i dont think someone who does it will die either...

there is huge confusion between the reason wrestlers and bodybuilders die younger...the one who go younger involove genetic predisposition...and the use of other substances that truly shorten life such as NARCOTICA....such as PAIN KILLERS...pain killer will shorten your life if abused ! big big diff than hormones...

hormones are test or twist on test...this is what hormones are....hgh can and actualy PROLONG your life and give you much better quality life...

gh15 approved

ARN0LD HAD A TRIPLE BYPASS HEART SURGERY IN HIS 50'S.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: el numero uno on May 08, 2011, 03:22:42 PM
Your father's cock is quite that big, so yeah I might eventually choke on that.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Yeah, that's genetic  :)
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 08, 2011, 03:23:41 PM
ARN0LD HAD A TRIPLE BYPASS HEART SURGERY IN HIS 50'S.

it was an  invention for the steroid war against barry bond, to demonize roids

Arnold's heart has always been fine

 8)
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: asbrus on May 08, 2011, 03:35:43 PM
it was an  invention for the steroid war against barry bond, to demonize roids

Arnold's heart has always been fine

 8)

I'M N0T SAYING STER0IDS WILL CAUSE A BAD HEART BUT IF Y0U ARE GENETICALLY PRE DISP0SED T0 IT, HEAVY ABUSE MAY SPEED UP THE PR0CESS. ARE Y0U SERI0US AB0UT ARN0LD N0T HAVING HEART SURGERY? Y0U THINK IT WAS ALL C0NSPIRACY?
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: asbrus on May 08, 2011, 03:37:08 PM

All that risk to get 5th in an amateur show!
Put on 10 pounds of fat, go natural and enjoy bodybuilding into your '80's mate. Time is too precious to risk this shit unless you have the genetics to turn pro.

L0L S0ME NATURALS ABUSE DRUGS M0RE THAN PR0S. NATURAL C0MPETITI0N IS A J0KE.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: asbrus on May 08, 2011, 03:39:07 PM
 You got it all wrong, moron. I am close to 6'5 tall and a naturally big man. I am not a short-dicked midget like you guys who try to overcompensate by taking massive amounts of anabolics. And I have taken steroids before - but never too insulin and GH - and I have been as heavy as 330 lbs, so I know what I'm talking about. I felt like shit on Hemogenin, felt irritable on Durateston and my cholesterol was on the verge of giving me a heart attack. My systolic blood pressure also increased dramatically due to Sodium retention and I had terrible headaches. I am not a skinny guys talking about things I don't understand. I have tried all the steroids you can think and then some. I have even taken 150 mg of oxymetholone and over 1 gram of test a week at the same time And 600 mg od deca. All that shit at the same time.

SUCKMYMUSCLE


L0L Y0U'RE THE SAME GUY WH0 BELIEVES THAT THE GUTS ARE CAUSED BY T00 MUCH F00D. I D0UBT Y0U kN0w WHAT Y0U ARE D0ING.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: GroinkTropin on May 08, 2011, 03:50:21 PM
Oh and free tidbit here, regarding blood pressure. 10mgs ED of Cialis will do the trick. It causes vasodilation and in that low of a dose erections will not be much of an issue but it will lower blood pressure.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: gh15 on May 08, 2011, 03:51:36 PM
ARN0LD HAD A TRIPLE BYPASS HEART SURGERY IN HIS 50'S.

genetic predisposition ,,nothign to do with hormones,,many people have it in their 50s and 60s ,,some go surgery ,,some put arficial stins or how ever you call them ,,some put what dick chainey has for heart to get a shock once in a while,,and some has in in themselves and just know where to cough the right way and fix the hear arythmia or how ever you call it,,


gh15 approved
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: g101 on May 08, 2011, 04:06:30 PM
genetic predisposition ,,nothign to do with hormones
gh15 approved


is hairloss also genetic disposition no matter on hormones or not

or will proscar,dutasteride etc etc prevent/avoid it  ???
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: pellius on May 08, 2011, 04:10:17 PM
  My threat to you and my promise to fulfill it has been made. I have nothing more to say.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

With each passing day.... each passing moment.... you move closer and closer to DEATH.

So it has been ordain by me. And so it shall be done.

I have nothing more to say.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: gh15 on May 08, 2011, 04:12:18 PM
is hairloss also genetic disposition no matter on hormones or not

or will proscar,dutasteride etc etc prevent/avoid it  ???

hair is absolitly genetics,,if yo meant to be bald you will be bald,,if you meant to be bald in one spot you will be bald in one spot,,if you meant to have long hair and bald form the front you will be just that,,look at jason he has all his hair and its his hair and he abused drugs to a point of no return

gh15 approved
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 09, 2011, 02:23:52 PM
After my chest workout this morning

slin pump  8)
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 09, 2011, 03:07:40 PM
After my chest workout this morning

slin pump  8)

  Yeah, good luck with your future blindness man. I hope you like dogs because you will need one to walk around with you all the time.........

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: EL Mariachi on May 09, 2011, 03:10:43 PM
After my chest workout this morning

slin pump  8)

superior arab gh genetics
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: ManBearPig... on May 09, 2011, 03:42:46 PM
After my chest workout this morning

slin pump  8)

do you lift weights, skinny?
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: asbrus on May 09, 2011, 04:28:41 PM
After my chest workout this morning

slin pump  8)

HEY STAVI0S WHAT ARE Y0UR MEASURMENTS RIGHT N0W. ARMS,CHEST,LEGS.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 09, 2011, 04:34:09 PM
HEY STAVI0S WHAT ARE Y0UR MEASURMENTS RIGHT N0W. ARMS,CHEST,LEGS.

I never mesure shit, last time I had them mesure were a few years ago when I had a trainer and he was mesuring them every month while checking my bodyfat with the caliper

Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 09, 2011, 04:36:06 PM
  Yeah, good luck with your future blindness man. I hope you like dogs because you will need one to walk around with you all the time.........

SUCKMYMUSCLE

of course I like dogs  8)
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on May 09, 2011, 04:43:19 PM
  Yeah, good luck with your future blindness man. I hope you like dogs because you will need one to walk around with you all the time.........

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Translation: Since im too scared to do what is necessary to get really big im going to bitterly hate on anyone else who does try to.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 09, 2011, 04:43:41 PM
Quote from: ManBearPig... link=topic=375317.msg5341178#msg5341178 date=130 4980966
do you lift weights, skinny?

I do a little bit of rollerblade and I play some ping pong on the weekend
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: thenumberis666 on May 09, 2011, 04:45:11 PM
After my chest workout this morning

slin pump  8)

JESUS CHRIST.

YOU LOOK LIKE A BEGINNER WITH A PLUS. AND YOU SHOOT SLIN.

PATHETIC.

WAAAAKE UUUUUUP

BUT KIND REGARDS ANYWAY....
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 09, 2011, 04:47:24 PM
JESUS CHRIST.

YOU LOOK LIKE A BEGINNER WITH A PLUS. AND YOU SHOOT SLIN.

PATHETIC.

WAAAAKE UUUUUUP

BUT KIND REGARDS ANYWAY....

???
I felt I looked good in that pic

you guys are hard to please  8)
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: thenumberis666 on May 09, 2011, 04:50:58 PM
???
I felt I looked good in that pic

you guys are hard to please  8)

YOU DO ! LOOK GOOD. B U T !!!!!!, w h y in HELL DO YOU SHOOT SLIN FOR AT THIS STAGE OF DEVELOPMENT ??? ??? ??? ???.

BACK IN MY DAY, I/we WERE I TRAINED WOULD HAVE WHOPPED YOUR ASS FOR THAT KIND OF BEHAVIOR. ITS U N N EC E S S A R Y.

BEST REGARDS

SHOULD ADD THAT " beginner with a plus" WAS A BIT HARSH, BUT Y GET MY POINT IM SURE. :D
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 09, 2011, 04:53:10 PM
YOU DO ! LOOK GOOD. B U T !!!!!!, w h y in HELL DO YOU SHOOT SLIN FOR AT THIS STAGE OF DEVELOPMENT ??? ??? ??? ???.

BACK IN MY DAY, I/we WERE I TRAINED WOULD HAVE WHOPPED YOUR ASS FOR THAT KIND OF BEHAVIOR. ITS U N N EC E S S A R Y.

BEST REGARDS

well, I shoot slin to get "bigger" than that, actually, if you see the point ???   ???

lmao
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: thenumberis666 on May 09, 2011, 04:59:35 PM
well, I shoot slin to get "bigger" than that, actually, if you see the point ???   ???

lmao

POINT IS; IF YOU CANT GET BIGGER THAN THAT (which is a fair build,,,not saying anything else), WITHOUT RESORTING TO SLIN AND OR GH,,,YOU EITHER LACK ENOUGH GENETICS AND OR ENOUGH RESPONS TO COMMON ANABOLICS, TEST ETC.

WHAT ARE Y TRYING TO PROVE/FIND OUT, AND AT WHAT COST. I CAN BEAT TIGER WOODS WITH A DRASTIC HANDICAP. BUT IS THAT WHAT Y DESIRE. IF SO,,,,,,,,,THEN I GUESS THAT WHATEVER FLOATS YOUR BOAT,,,AS THEY SAY. BUT BE AWARE OF THE PRICETAG. BE VERY AWARE.

BEST REGARDS. I MEAN NO DISRESPECT. YOU HAVE A GOOD BUILD.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 09, 2011, 05:03:05 PM
POINT IS; IF YOU CANT GET BIGGER THAN THAT (which is a fair build,,,not saying anything else), WITHOUT RESORTING TO SLIN AND OR GH,,,YOU EITHER LACK ENOUGH GENETICS AND OR ENOUGH RESPONS TO COMMON ANABOLICS, TEST ETC.

WHAT ARE Y TRYING TO PROVE/FIND OUT, AND AT WHAT COST. I CAN BEAT TIGER WOODS WITH A DRASTIC HANDICAP. BUT IS THAT WHAT Y DESIRE. IF SO,,,,,,,,,THEN I GUESS THAT WHATEVER FLOATS YOUR BOAT,,,AS THEY SAY. BUT BE AWARE OF THE PRICETAG. BE VERY AWARE.

BEST REGARDS. I MEAN NO DISRESPECT. YOU HAVE A GOOD BUILD.


you can judge by pictures like you want, but I have a big frame and I am a big guy irl

I am pretty wide even without delt developpement, once I get huge squared delts I will look very impressive if the legs follow.

but thanks for your opinion  8)
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 09, 2011, 05:05:46 PM
Translation: Since im too scared to do what is necessary to get really big im going to bitterly hate on anyone else who does try to.

  Yes, that is it. I mean, why should I enjoy life being at a comfortable bodyweight, live to the age of 90 fucking beautiful women, enjoying my inherited wealth, traveling throughout the World and drinking the best wine and dinning at the finest restaurants if I can instead, live a hardcore bodybuilding lifestyle eating nothing but broiled chicken breasts and brown rice and die at 50 with shrunken balls, impotent, bald, blind from diabetes and having to do dialyses to not die due to my own metabolic poisons? Who wouldn't be jealous of that?

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: thenumberis666 on May 09, 2011, 05:06:19 PM
you can judge by pictures like you want, but I have a big frame and I am a big guy irl

I am pretty wide even without delt developpement, once I get huge squared delts I will look very impressive if the legs follow.

but thanks for your opinion  8)

YOU CAN DO IT WITHOUT SLIN AND GH. BUT IT WILL TAKE TIME TIME HARD WORK HARD WORK HARD WORK

TAKE CARE IRON BROTHER.....
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: thenumberis666 on May 09, 2011, 05:08:35 PM
 Yes, that is it. I mean, why should I enjoy life being at a comfortable bodyweight, live to the age of 90 fucking beautiful women, enjoying my inherited wealth, traveling throughout the World and drinking the best wine and dinning at the finest restaurants if I can instead, live a hardcore bodybuilding lifestyle eating nothing but broiled chicken breasts and brown rice and die at 50 with shrunken balls, impotent, bald, blind from diabetes and having to do dialyses to not die due to my own metabolic poisons? Who wouldn't be jealous of that?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

YOU HAVE A KNACK FOR STRAIGHT TALK, REALISM  ;D
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: DK II on May 09, 2011, 05:33:54 PM
After my chest workout this morning

slin pump  8)
:o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: pellius on May 09, 2011, 06:14:20 PM
  Yeah, good luck with your future blindness man. I hope you like dogs because you will need one to walk around with you all the time.........

SUCKMYMUSCLE

You don't even know it but you are slowly dying. Closer and closer to come to death.

I have put a curse on you.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: DK II on May 09, 2011, 06:15:33 PM
You don't even know it but you are slowly dying. Closer and closer to come to death.

I have put a curse on you.

Can't you speed it up a bit??
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: pellius on May 09, 2011, 06:19:03 PM
 Yes, that is it. I mean, why should I enjoy life being at a comfortable bodyweight, live to the age of 90 fucking beautiful women, enjoying my inherited wealth, traveling throughout the World and drinking the best wine and dinning at the finest restaurants if I can instead, live a hardcore bodybuilding lifestyle eating nothing but broiled chicken breasts and brown rice and die at 50 with shrunken balls, impotent, bald, blind from diabetes and having to do dialyses to not die due to my own metabolic poisons? Who wouldn't be jealous of that?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

You are a delusional and tragic figure. You have no wealth. You have no intelligence. You've never left your tiny cottage that you share with your repressive and domineering Catholic mother who is always praying over you as she clutches her rosary beads. You are still a virgin.

And you are dying.

 
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 09, 2011, 06:22:58 PM
You are a delusional and tragic figure. You have no wealth. You have no intelligence. You've never left your tiny cottage that you share with your repressive and domineering Catholic mother who is always praying over you as she clutches her rosary beads. You are still a virgin.

And you are dying.

 

  I am in reality a god, and make no mistake about the fact that I am taller, smarter, richer and have more access to beautiful women than you'll ever have. I am also younger than you, old man. I feel like making my threat to you and carrying it through, as I will, was a waste of time anyway since you are an old queen and will die soon anyway. But don't ever forget that I threatened you and promised to fulfill my promise.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 09, 2011, 06:24:14 PM
Can't you speed it up a bit??
 ;D ;D ;D


  Awww...Donkey brain still upset that he tried to demod me and it failed. You should have known better, Donkey, since you fail at everything.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: DK II on May 09, 2011, 06:25:02 PM
  Awww...Donkey brain still upset that he tried to demod me and it failed. You should have known better, Donkey, since you fail at everything.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

LOL
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: pellius on May 09, 2011, 06:25:31 PM
Can't you speed it up a bit??
 ;D ;D ;D


Though I am a vengeful man I am also a compassionate one. Suckymucles pleasures are so few in life so I have granted him more time to jack off to the new batch of cartoon porn he has recently downloaded.

But he is dying. Moving closer and closer to death.



 
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on May 09, 2011, 06:28:17 PM
POINT IS; IF YOU CANT GET BIGGER THAN THAT (which is a fair build,,,not saying anything else), WITHOUT RESORTING TO SLIN AND OR GH,,,YOU EITHER LACK ENOUGH GENETICS AND OR ENOUGH RESPONS TO COMMON ANABOLICS, TEST ETC.

WHAT ARE Y TRYING TO PROVE/FIND OUT, AND AT WHAT COST. I CAN BEAT TIGER WOODS WITH A DRASTIC HANDICAP. BUT IS THAT WHAT Y DESIRE. IF SO,,,,,,,,,THEN I GUESS THAT WHATEVER FLOATS YOUR BOAT,,,AS THEY SAY. BUT BE AWARE OF THE PRICETAG. BE VERY AWARE.

BEST REGARDS. I MEAN NO DISRESPECT. YOU HAVE A GOOD BUILD.


Slin and GH are much safer on the system. Steroids are fcking toxic. You only did what you did in the past because he didn't have the type of drugs the guys do today. You're not going to get the 3D effect when you turn to the side by just using steroids.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: pellius on May 09, 2011, 06:29:19 PM
  I am in reality a god, and make no mistake about the fact that I am taller, smarter, richer and have more access to beautiful women than you'll ever have. I am also younger than you, old man. I feel like making my threat to you and carrying it through, as I will, was a waste of time anyway since you are an old queen and will die soon anyway. But don't ever forget that I threatened you and promised to fulfill my promise.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I read this post, contemplated it, replied to it -- all in 2 minutes and 17 seconds. I did this while holding my breath.

I think you know what that means.



Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: 225for70 on May 09, 2011, 06:33:29 PM
 Awww...Donkey brain still upset that he tried to demod me and it failed. You should have known better, Donkey, since you fail at everything.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Being Mod is very important to you...  being moderator on the nutrition board helps the Man with the 162 IQ reach the apex of the pyramid.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: WillGrant on May 09, 2011, 06:34:06 PM
After my chest workout this morning

slin pump  8)
Awesome  8)
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: lightweight on May 09, 2011, 06:38:54 PM
 Yes, that is it. I mean, why should I enjoy life being at a comfortable bodyweight, live to the age of 90 fucking beautiful women, enjoying my inherited wealth, traveling throughout the World and drinking the best wine and dinning at the finest restaurants if I can instead, live a hardcore bodybuilding lifestyle eating nothing but broiled chicken breasts and brown rice and die at 50 with shrunken balls, impotent, bald, blind from diabetes and having to do dialyses to not die due to my own metabolic poisons? Who wouldn't be jealous of that?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

You know any 90 year olds fucking beautiful women?  You have to be the stupidest shithead on this forum.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: pellius on May 09, 2011, 06:53:13 PM
You know any 90 year olds fucking beautiful women?  You have to be the stupidest shithead on this forum.

Too stupid to realize that he is dying.
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: DK II on May 09, 2011, 07:02:01 PM
You know any 90 year olds fucking beautiful women?  You have to be the stupidest shithead on this forum.

....


[ lengthy explanation / meltdown about how his 240 IQ makes him able to know much more than all other idiots here on the forum bla bla bla... ]

Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: suckmymuscle on May 09, 2011, 07:11:32 PM
You know any 90 year olds fucking beautiful women?  You have to be the stupidest shithead on this forum.

  Your reading comprehension is terrible, noob. I said I will be living up to the age of 90 fucking beautiful women. The irony of people who can't make sense of phrases calling one stupid.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: gh15 on May 09, 2011, 07:46:27 PM
you can judge by pictures like you want, but I have a big frame and I am a big guy irl

I am pretty wide even without delt developpement, once I get huge squared delts I will look very impressive if the legs follow.

but thanks for your opinion  8)

thjats the first time ever i see stavio protecting himself and taking a stand for himself! good ,,usualy stavio answer would be like...yes im still small shrimp and need to grow more im nothing comparing to this and that,, lol ,,this is first time he sound confident!

and to the person who said he doesnt look all that ,,and a begginer,,BALONIE,, you see a picture ,,picture is illusion you see a little picture into a mirror ,,you have no reference,,nothing,,


he is big and lean ,, and much improved,,remember mid 20s ,,he is gonna be very thick and matured by 30 if stick to bodybuild,,and insulina and hgh is  must where he is because 200lb 6% you really got no where else to go but to jump on the gh and insulina,,remember arnold 6'1 -6'2 230lb ...basically 5'11 215 on stage.... and had the best of everything and still coudnr pass this number ,,stavio is not arnold and he is 200lb at the 6% zone ...this is the time for hgh and insulina,,smart usage of them

gh15 approved
Title: Re: For GH15, your pupil Stavios before going on the full blown protocol
Post by: Stavios on May 09, 2011, 07:48:41 PM
thjats the first time ever i see stavio protecting himself and taking a stand for himself! good ,,usualy stavio answer would be like...yes im still small shrimp and need to grow more im nothing comparing to this and that,, lol ,,this is first time he sound confident!

Yes it's time to man up !  8)

my resolution this year  8)
Title: gh15
Post by: io856 on May 10, 2011, 12:30:57 AM
Thanks for your work here on getbig!  :D

You help put things into perspective for the young kids n reality checks in a game where there are none...

Like shots at the bar... trenbolona shots all around in your honor,,,!  ;D

Why does enanathate hold more water than propionate etc. shorter easters etc. water retention I don't get it... thanks a question of why more than anything...?
Title: Re: gh15
Post by: dogma5914 on May 10, 2011, 12:38:03 AM
He is literally cutting people's learning curves in less than half with his information on here. The next generation of bodybuilders will probably end up being the getbig generation more than likely but who knows....
Title: Re: gh15
Post by: io856 on May 10, 2011, 12:40:51 AM
well theres always gonna be trial and error for us schmucks in the game

but at the end of the day there will and WAS always going to be the guys who ingest a FUCKLOAD,truckload and gutload of everythings to with drugssss.... they learn and find out that maybe this is wrong or good or organ fail along the way,,, some do better with less and a time component i.e. sticking at it and putting in the work etc. and genetics separate

and I do know a girl with a LOT of muscle who doesn't train at all and parties plenty... and doesn't like her muscle.... that was wierd... when have sherief shalabies etc of getbig and stavios, leafy bug etc. trainign their hearts out and learning and earning muscles with PEDs or not...  :D
Title: Re: gh15
Post by: Benoitlapierre on May 10, 2011, 12:42:08 AM
with stem cell technology , gene doping , myostatin blocker , improved follistatin and advance Angiotensin II Receptor Blockers


,,, it will get even more extreme
Title: Re: gh15
Post by: io856 on May 10, 2011, 12:43:16 AM
with stem cell technology , gene doping , myostatin blocker , improved follistatin and advance Angiotensin II Receptor Blockers


,,, it will get even more extreme
until gh15 starts speaking on this it doesn't matter...

its like ghrp6 nonsense balonies to me at present
Title: Re: gh15
Post by: Euro-monster on May 10, 2011, 01:15:49 AM
The difference is the time it takes for the test to absorbe into the body....prop is short estered so the body will absorb all of the test at ones into the bloodstream so you will have one big spike instead of the slower estered test wich seems to give  a slower but longer spike in bloodlevels , hence the more water the body will hold.