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Title: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Dr Dutch on July 02, 2011, 03:45:01 AM
They build your quadriceps muscles.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: _bruce_ on July 02, 2011, 02:45:14 PM
People could die squatting.
Do not do it!
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: D_1000 on July 02, 2011, 02:51:58 PM
Quadriceps muscles do not help to pick up chicks.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 02, 2011, 02:57:24 PM
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/262618_2240465173417_1301686040_32838134_4903009_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on July 02, 2011, 05:57:32 PM
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/262618_2240465173417_1301686040_32838134_4903009_n.jpg)
Nice... i see you have that set up for quarter reps coach. You should come train with me and drop the weight. 455 the other day goin lowwwwwwwwwwwww.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Doug_Steele on July 02, 2011, 06:02:40 PM
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/262618_2240465173417_1301686040_32838134_4903009_n.jpg)

Is that 545?  ???
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 02, 2011, 07:39:28 PM
Ass to the ground (ok, paralell) for a single.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: The Showstoppa on July 02, 2011, 07:42:10 PM
I blew out my knee during JV football tryouts back in the day...can't do em.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: The RedMeatKid on July 02, 2011, 07:46:34 PM
Bob Chick doesn't squat. Never has.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: gh15 on July 02, 2011, 08:01:13 PM
ask yourself this friends,,

kamali squats a lot...heavy! ,,did it help him? see curent condition

thomas prince used to squat a lot....heavyyyyyy...did it ummm help him? see current condition lol

mikelango fransuia... squated a lottttttt....heavvvvy,, did it ummm help him? see current condition

list go onnnn and onnnnn and onnnnnn


now look at those fellas..

denis wolfe...doesnt squat much,, work hacks and even that he can find ways around it,, top 5 bodybuild in the world

dexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxar jaxson,, doesnt squat much,,prefer hacks and even that he can find ways around it,, number 1 bodybuild in the world..yes still!


philsulina heath,, doesnt do shit lol just pump muscles lol ,,top 5 bodybuild in the world


list go on and on and on and on ,,

im surporized you fellas havent learned yet that reality of the matter is that if a girl can get her leg to look nice thick and developed with 25lb paltes acros a bar.. or many times on machines... lol you as bodybuild can do exact same thing,,

this is so wrong whats going on in the cult for so many years,, you see ron colman ass to the ground severe mutation of outstanding development that came from respond to hormone and genetic respond to hormones and over all respond to training,, you see him sqwuating heavy for video and you think oh ill go do that ,, and same for the othr...dont you understand we do it for videos mainly? after all this time dont youget it?

yes you can work with 4 plates each side of a bar and squat,,will you do it relegiously and grow better and bigger for long time ,,NO,, will you kill yourself on the way ? YES YOU WILL ,, WILL IT RESULT IN BIGGER MUSCLE WITH OUT HORMONES AND ENOUGH OF THEM ? N E V E R


work smart fellas dont work with the balonie you read on muscular devlop or flex,, those are liars ,,they work on you round and round like the song goes ,,and you always fall for this ,,

gh15 approved


Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Devon97 on July 02, 2011, 08:04:28 PM
ask yourself this friends,,

kamali squats a lot...heavy! ,,did it help him? see curent condition

thomas prince used to squat a lot....heavyyyyyy...did it ummm help him? see current condition lol

mikelango fransuia... squated a lottttttt....heavvvvy,, did it ummm help him? see current condition

list go onnnn and onnnnn and onnnnnn


now look at those fellas..

denis wolfe...doesnt squat much,, work hacks and even that he can find ways around it,, top 5 bodybuild in the world

dexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxar jaxson,, doesnt squat much,,prefer hacks and even that he can find ways around it,, number 1 bodybuild in the world..yes still!


philsulina heath,, doesnt do shit lol just pump muscles lol ,,top 5 bodybuild in the world


list go on and on and on and on ,,

im surporized you fellas havent learned yet that reality of the matter is that if a girl can get her leg to look nice thick and developed with 25lb paltes acros a bar.. or many times on machines... lol you as bodybuild can do exact same thing,,

this is so wrong whats going on in the cult for so many years,, you see ron colman ass to the ground severe mutation of outstanding development that came from respond to hormone and genetic respond to hormones and over all respond to training,, you see him sqwuating heavy for video and you think oh ill go do that ,, and same for the othr...dont you understand we do it for videos mainly? after all this time dont youget it?

yes you can work with 4 plates each side of a bar and squat,,will you do it relegiously and grow better and bigger for long time ,,NO,, will you kill yourself on the way ? YES YOU WILL ,, WILL IT RESULT IN BIGGER MUSCLE WITH OUT HORMONES AND ENOUGH OF THEM ? N E V E R


work smart fellas dont work with the balonie you read on muscular devlop or flex,, those are liars ,,they work on you round and round like the song goes ,,and you always fall for this ,,

gh15 approved




Exactly!

I had a sneaky sucispion hacks were the missing ingredient to MASSIVE wheels! ::)
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Chick on July 02, 2011, 08:05:07 PM
Bob Chick doesn't squat. Never has.

Where did you hear that?
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: gh15 on July 02, 2011, 08:06:04 PM
lol,, its all in thre hormones,, the respond to hormones,, and the legitimacy of those hormones,, you need MONEY to be bodybuild,, and you need more money to be good one,, and you need both money and the genetic respond to the hormone to be at 9 out of 10 to be superior bodybuild and evern that! doesnt last but for few years

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 02, 2011, 08:15:53 PM
Hacks are f**king knee destroyers!!
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: theworm on July 02, 2011, 08:40:54 PM
yeah, shawn ray never squatted either!   thought it created wide hips...
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: DK II on July 02, 2011, 08:41:22 PM
Front squats all the way, good form, never too heavy.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: notsureifsrs on July 02, 2011, 09:57:36 PM
ask yourself this friends,,

kamali squats a lot...heavy! ,,did it help him? see curent condition

thomas prince used to squat a lot....heavyyyyyy...did it ummm help him? see current condition lol

mikelango fransuia... squated a lottttttt....heavvvvy,, did it ummm help him? see current condition

list go onnnn and onnnnn and onnnnnn


now look at those fellas..

denis wolfe...doesnt squat much,, work hacks and even that he can find ways around it,, top 5 bodybuild in the world

dexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxar jaxson,, doesnt squat much,,prefer hacks and even that he can find ways around it,, number 1 bodybuild in the world..yes still!


philsulina heath,, doesnt do shit lol just pump muscles lol ,,top 5 bodybuild in the world


list go on and on and on and on ,,

im surporized you fellas havent learned yet that reality of the matter is that if a girl can get her leg to look nice thick and developed with 25lb paltes acros a bar.. or many times on machines... lol you as bodybuild can do exact same thing,,

this is so wrong whats going on in the cult for so many years,, you see ron colman ass to the ground severe mutation of outstanding development that came from respond to hormone and genetic respond to hormones and over all respond to training,, you see him sqwuating heavy for video and you think oh ill go do that ,, and same for the othr...dont you understand we do it for videos mainly? after all this time dont youget it?

yes you can work with 4 plates each side of a bar and squat,,will you do it relegiously and grow better and bigger for long time ,,NO,, will you kill yourself on the way ? YES YOU WILL ,, WILL IT RESULT IN BIGGER MUSCLE WITH OUT HORMONES AND ENOUGH OF THEM ? N E V E R


work smart fellas dont work with the balonie you read on muscular devlop or flex,, those are liars ,,they work on you round and round like the song goes ,,and you always fall for this ,,

gh15 approved

Telling the truth is one thing, being right all the fucking time is another
you are scary...

here i quote Andreas Frey (6", 300lb+ on stage)
Quote
I never do any Barbell Squat, because I believe this is one of the most dangerous exercises out there, very dangerous for knees and also for the back and spinal.

here he is
(http://www.andreasfrey.net/Bilder/Battle_Of_Giants_2007/Oslo06.jpg)

here he is at 96'
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=306445&d=1148892452)

lots of heavy squat and heavy lifting?
lol not really... just hormones and lots of it
btw his workout routine is almost exactly what written in the bible
(smart and fast workout to stimulate the muscles and staying injury free)
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 02, 2011, 10:12:49 PM
Nice... i see you have that set up for quarter reps coach. You should come train with me and drop the weight. 455 the other day goin lowwwwwwwwwwwww.

Aahhh, I see what you're saying now. If you look closely the J-hooks and bar is set up on the OUTSIDE if the rack :)
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on July 02, 2011, 10:14:33 PM
I fullsquat 4 plates for reps and look like i never lifted a weight in my life. Aside from my ILS and BB.com sleeveless shirt.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 02, 2011, 10:16:18 PM
lol,, its all in thre hormones,, the respond to hormones,, and the legitimacy of those hormones,, you need MONEY to be bodybuild,, and you need more money to be good one,, and you need both money and the genetic respond to the hormone to be at 9 out of 10 to be superior bodybuild and evern that! doesnt last but for few years

gh15 approved

Fuck..will you quit the fucking hormones already. There are people out there that take a 1/10 of what you think that can squat more than people that are on a ton of shit. Like a broken fucking record. Geez >:(
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 02, 2011, 10:20:00 PM
I remember when sevetase was getting called out for saying how much he squatted and people were calling bullshit......until he posted a youtube of him doing 405 for 10 full reps. THAT was impressive as hell.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on July 02, 2011, 10:20:00 PM
Fuck..will you quit the fucking hormones already. There are people out there that take a 1/10 of what you think that can squat more than people that are on a ton of shit. Like a broken fucking record. Geez >:(

It isn't about what you squat, it's about how big your legs are, AKA how much hormones you take.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: gh15 on July 02, 2011, 10:22:57 PM
Fuck..will you quit the fucking hormones already. There are people out there that take a 1/10 of what you think that can squat more than people that are on a ton of shit. Like a broken fucking record. Geez >:(

no connection between how much you can squat or lift and muscle volume! ,, actualy to put it in beter way the connection is to a point ,,it goes hand in hand until it stops and then nothing you wil do strength wize will be able to increase your muscle diameter aside for MORE HORMONES,, so the little fellas who squat on 1/2 of the doses im talkin about not 1/10 but 1/2 since everyone juice and a lot....those fellas dont grow the muscle diameter ...they get their tendoins to be impressive lol

the

end

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 02, 2011, 10:23:10 PM
It isn't about what you squat, it's about how big your legs are, AKA how much hormones you take.

I'm just talking strength.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 02, 2011, 10:25:39 PM
no connection between how much you can squat or lift and muscle volume! ,, actualy to put it in beter way the connection is to a point ,,it goes hand in hand until it stops and then nothing you wil do strength size will be able to increase your muscle diameter aside for MORE HORMONES,, so the little fellas who squat on 1/2 of the doses im talkin about not 1/10 but 1/2 since everyone juice and a lot....those fellas dont grow the muscle diameter ...they get their tendoins to be impressive lol

the

end

gh15 approved

Ok..I completely didn't understand that. You told me one time you could write perfect english......can you please re-write that in ENGLISH?
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: gh15 on July 02, 2011, 10:28:16 PM
simple terms,,

you wont get bigger muscle from squating heavier! or lifting heavier!,, heavy lifting has a lot to do with the tendoin and with the bone strength,,

at the beggining of your lifting first few years the strangth will be paralel to muscle diameter growth ,, then after those few years....it will come to a stop and ONLY increasing the dose and changing the products and working it all together will MAYBE result in bigger diameter to the muscle ...depending if youre maxed from hormones or not

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 02, 2011, 10:35:14 PM
simple terms,,

you wont get bigger muscle from squating heavier! or lifting heavier!,, heavy lifting has a lot to do with the tendoin and with the bone strength,,

at the beggining of your lifting first few years the strangth will be paralel to muscle diameter growth ,, then after those few years....it will come to a stop and ONLY increasing the dose and changing the products and working it all together will MAYBE result in bigger diameter to the muscle ...depending if youre maxed from hormones or not

gh15 approved

Thanks...I agree with that. Genetics and training plays a huge role, more so than hormones. I remember Levrone at his best had huge, detailed legs then a year or two later they were undersized and no where near what they used to be. You're correct about squatting heavier (and I'm assuming with lower reps). Volume training has always been king when it comes to training + "hormones".....even without the "hormones".
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: musclecenter on July 02, 2011, 10:35:30 PM
I favour doing high reps full-squats



Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: 20inch calves on July 02, 2011, 10:35:45 PM
i have to disagree with you gh15. i think some guys are simply not built for squatting...long legs ect but i think if you can squat without pain or injury you should. it hits the whole lower body. you sometimes even tell..especially on a local level who squats and who doesn't..perhaps it because they are not on as many or as much drugs...don;t know.

dorain said he stopped doing barbel squats because of his long legs he wasn't built for them..he felt the leg press and hacks were more benefical for growth for HIS body..but he said if you are able that you should do them
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Meso_z on July 02, 2011, 10:40:39 PM
gh15

Smith machine squats or bb squats?

For bbing purposes.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: gh15 on July 02, 2011, 10:43:21 PM
hack squats and legg press ,, mainly hack squats

smith machine is good if you load heavy weight and want to be more safe...barbel squats should hae spotter,,but in general im tellin you thiis again and again squats BUILD THE FUCKIN ASS,, hack squats is what you want,, and yes it is height dependent,, taller fellas hacks for sure,, shorter ones can do both squats and hacks

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 02, 2011, 10:44:46 PM
gh15

Smith machine squats or bb squats?

For bbing purposes.

years ago before I knew better I squatted on a smith machine for a show and my legs looked like shit (small). Switched back to regular squats and they blew back up.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: gh15 on July 02, 2011, 10:46:29 PM
also ,, shorter fellas develop legs much beter than taller fellas,, for taller fellas 5'10 and over def hacks! for fellas 5'6 5'7 5'5 squats is ok they dont have to go down much for the squat it really dependnt of height ,,

personality in my opinion hacks is best foro legs ,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Doug_Steele on July 02, 2011, 10:51:35 PM
years ago before I knew better I squatted on a smith machine for a show and my legs looked like shit (small). Switched back to regular squats and they blew back up.

Are you shorter than 6'00? I am 6'2 ish and my fuckin legs are strong, but have very little size and i bust my ass on barbell squats. My ass just got bigger.  >:(
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Meso_z on July 02, 2011, 10:58:23 PM
hack squats and legg press ,, mainly hack squats

smith machine is good if you load heavy weight and want to be more safe...barbel squats should hae spotter,,but in general im tellin you thiis again and again squats BUILD THE FUCKIN ASS,, hack squats is what you want,, and yes it is height dependent,, taller fellas hacks for sure,, shorter ones can do both squats and hacks

gh15 approved
Thanks big guy.

I have moved on to a new gym for holidays, and they dont have the "hardcore" squat rack. But I noticed they have a very good smith machine...so i will stick to it for 2 months..

p.s before leg training i always inject both quads.  :D ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 02, 2011, 11:03:39 PM
also ,, shorter fellas develop legs much beter than taller fellas,, for taller fellas 5'10 and over def hacks! for fellas 5'6 5'7 5'5 squats is ok they dont have to go down much for the squat it really dependnt of height ,,

personality in my opinion hacks is best foro legs ,,

gh15 approved

Hacks destroy knees. It's a bio-mechanically incorrect movement.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Doug_Steele on July 02, 2011, 11:07:47 PM
Hacks destroy knees. It's a bio-mechanically incorrect movement.

Could be true, but you can wrap them, right?
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: gh15 on July 02, 2011, 11:11:36 PM
Hacks destroy knees. It's a bio-mechanically incorrect movement.

biomecanic can kiss my ass,,together with canadian vince 2 dianabola tablets a day ,, together with your 200mg cyp a week lol
do me a favour and dont tell me what destroy what,, i did them for years and develop very big legs,, denise does them now and has humongus legs,, mishko the serb also favorite them ,,hacks are very good best for legs,, you think i will go put on my shoulder big heavy squats barbell when im loaded with 150-200mg of anapolona in my blood? what am i nuts? we go hacks it wotn fall on us and we can do the movement decent and our ass will not grow biger,,its enough the oil that is inside it no need to make it even biger

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 02, 2011, 11:13:04 PM
Could be true, but you can wrap them, right?

Yes, it slows the process but will eventually still catch up.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 02, 2011, 11:18:50 PM
biomecanic can kiss my ass,,together with canadian vince 2 dianabola tablets a day ,, together with your 200mg cyp a week lol
do me a favour and dont tell me what destroy what,, i did them for years and develop very big legs,, denise does them now and has humongus legs,, mishko the serb also favorite them ,,hacks are very good best for legs,, you think i will go put on my shoulder big heavy squats barbell when im loaded with 150-200mg of anapolona in my blood? what am i nuts? we go hacks it wotn fall on us and we can do the movement decent and our ass will not grow biger,,its enough the oil that is inside it no need to make it even biger

gh15 approved

LOL...I didn't say they didn't help in size, I said they would eventually fuck up your knees. See, this is the problem with bodybuilding and it's training, 90% know nothing about training and could careless how it fucks up joints as long as they get big. Here's a little fact son...........you can't squat, do hacks or even play on your little machines if you compete and your knees are jacked up. Just to add about Milos....his knees are fucked. (and not because he's in jail.)
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: gh15 on July 02, 2011, 11:23:32 PM
but MINE ARE NOT AND I DONE HACKS FOR MANY MANY YEARS ,, lol what are you talkin about im tellin you my knees are ok ,,maybe when i get a cane after i have been tried to get assasinated ill thikn diffrently ,, but i can assure you my knee problem will probably be from the bullet and not from the hacks lol

gh15 approved
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: gh15 on July 02, 2011, 11:24:35 PM
jesus i have been tried to get assasinated lol i really buchered that sentence haha lol how the fuck did i come up with this grammer shit lol

Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Saram on July 02, 2011, 11:50:58 PM
Hacks are f**king knee destroyers!!

Only if you're wreckless. Hacks almost promote bouncing at the bottom and that will kill your knees doing it often enough and heavy enough. Go slow and controlled.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 02, 2011, 11:59:06 PM
Only if you're wreckless. Hacks almost promote bouncing at the bottom and that will kill your knees doing it often enough and heavy enough. Go slow and controlled.

That too, but just sheer force from the femur coming off the tibia on an angled plain (45 degrees depending on the machine) creating more force on the patella tendon. Remember the patella is a sesamoid or "floating" bone.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: notsureifsrs on July 03, 2011, 12:03:42 AM
also ,, shorter fellas develop legs much beter than taller fellas,, for taller fellas 5'10 and over def hacks! for fellas 5'6 5'7 5'5 squats is ok they dont have to go down much for the squat it really dependnt of height ,,

personality in my opinion hacks is best foro legs ,,

gh15 approved
Shorter guys develop anything better or at least better illusion...
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: wes on July 03, 2011, 01:22:47 AM
THANKS DUTCH !!!!


;D
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: wes on July 03, 2011, 01:40:41 AM
My best squatting poundages and reps:
225 - 27 reps at about 155 pounds bodyweight
275 - 20  about 165 pounds bodyweight
315 - 2 sets of 10 reps at about 165 pounds bodyweight
370 - for a triple at about 165 pounds bodyweight
405 - 1 rep max at about 165 pounds bodyweight

All done slightly below paralell................ ...........result,zero quad size and a fucked up lower back!!

My legs don`t grow for shit, but look better now with me doing mostly leg presses or unilateral leg presses......still my worst bodypart and I train them hard as hell.

We don`t have a hack machine at our gym (on a college campus......only gym in town),but heavy hacks are what originally fucked up my back..........but I was ego training and I do love hacks as a quad movement if you have a good machine that lessens the pressure on the knees.

Some older model hack machines are just knee wreckers..........PERIOD .  :(

My legs look like shit to this day......no size,my knees are fine,but my back should be hospitalized.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Meso_z on July 03, 2011, 01:49:03 AM
My best squatting poundages and reps:
225 - 27 reps at about 155 pounds bodyweight
275 - 20  about 165 pounds bodyweight
315 - 2 sets of 10 reps at about 165 pounds bodyweight
370 - for a triple at about 165 pounds bodyweight
405 - 1 rep max at about 165 pounds bodyweight

All done slightly below paralell................ ...........result,zero quad size and a fucked up lower back!!

My legs don`t grow for shit, but look better now with me doing mostly leg presses or unilateral leg presses......still my worst bodypart and I train them hard as hell.

We don`t have a hack machine at our gym (on a college campus......only gym in town),but heavy hacks are what originally fucked up my back..........but I was ego training and I do love hacks as a quad movement if you have a good machine that lessens the pressure on the knees.

Some older model hack machines are just knee wreckers..........PERIOD .  :(

My legs look like shit to this day......no size,my knees are fine,but my back should be hospitalized.
Thats the only thing that matters..stay healthy.  8)
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: wes on July 03, 2011, 01:50:46 AM
True,at least my back problems come and go in spurtz and aren`t contstant anymore.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Tito24 on July 03, 2011, 01:55:15 AM
maybe your back doesnt believe in squats wes? haha
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: closeline on July 03, 2011, 04:33:57 AM
i m 6'0 with relatively long legs

and i can confirm that squats don t work for me as good as for shorter guy s

maybe squats aren t needed for any bodytype to get full leg development

i squated for over a decade - because i wanted to be a "strong bb" (fuck)- but have totally stoped now and wont do them again

i think leg press and lunges are best for legs

i can also say that hacks are relatively stressfull for my knees, so i don t do them

also i do not do less than 10-12 reps for legs, most sets are around 12-15 sometimes 25
getting the blood in the muscle is key
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: cephissus on July 03, 2011, 04:51:48 AM
I favour doing high reps full-squats





musclecenter, i think you've said you have lower back problems?

i can see why.  your lower back is rounding brutally at the bottom of your squats.  i have the same problem.

your pelvis shouldn't rotate like that at the bottom of a squat!!!
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: WillGrant on July 03, 2011, 05:03:12 AM
Ass to the ground (ok, paralell) for a single.
Coach you are out of shot there - next time stand on tippy toes  :D
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: local hero on July 03, 2011, 05:06:04 AM
have any of you used the horizontal type hacks, the ones with the weight stack at the side, and the foot platform vetical?... for me this was a pure quad exersize, totaly knee pain free, only problem is the stacks are usualy too light when you get used to them...

we used to do 20 to 30 rep sets to finish quads off, huge squeezes, a slight pause at the bottom of the descent ,  brutal pumps!!!!
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Chick on July 03, 2011, 05:10:39 AM
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_5_21/ai_103376701/
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: oderus on July 03, 2011, 05:16:17 AM
this is the key to the chicksters massive quads
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: DK II on July 03, 2011, 05:18:52 AM
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_5_21/ai_103376701/

Good read, great article, Bob.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: local hero on July 03, 2011, 05:22:10 AM
yeh, pretty much spot on too!
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Meso_z on July 03, 2011, 05:35:29 AM
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KFY/is_5_21/ai_103376701/
So what the ghost-writer is basically trying to say, is never step a foot into a gym again.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Chick on July 03, 2011, 05:40:58 AM
So what the ghost-writer is basically trying to say, is never step a foot into a gym again.

Im sorry...I must have pasted the wrong link to you

The link I posted was to an article I wrote a few years ago, it details why I think some exercises are outdated, and dont make much sense, while there are plenty of other options for those with enough brains to think for themselves

My bad...
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: DK II on July 03, 2011, 05:43:30 AM
So what the ghost-writer is basically trying to say, is never step a foot into a gym again.

NO!!

It's the gh15 mantra: Train like a pussy and up the dose if you want to look like a bodybuilder!!

All machines and light weight baby!! (oh and lots of hormones).


I said it before and i say it again: A bodybuilder only has to LOOK like he can lift lots of weight, if you can grow on a pink dumbell, all the better for you. Only go as heavy as you have to to keep growing, NEVER max out on your lifts, it's just an ego and injuries waiting to happen.

When you're on stage, nobody will ask how much you bench, and most people that ask you don't have a clue about lifting and a cousin that benches more than you anyways.

DKII approved.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 03, 2011, 05:50:06 AM
DK sounds like a serious NATURAL bodybuilder ... maybe he should post a pic and show us his massive quads
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Meso_z on July 03, 2011, 05:50:55 AM
Im sorry...I must have pasted the wrong link to you

The link I posted was to an article I wrote a few years ago, it details why I think some exercises are outdated, and dont make much sense, while there are plenty of other options for those with enough brains to think for themselves

My bad...
I was kidding, take it easy.  ;D

good article...i agree 100% on the deadlifts and behind the neck presses. Useless for bbing

So and so on the squats and bbrows..bb curls and french presses..(if those last 2 dont bother your elbows or wrists, do them)
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: EL Mariachi on July 03, 2011, 05:52:44 AM
DK has some massive, pale calves, he could be a fat german i dont know, prop on hormones so looks decent
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: DK II on July 03, 2011, 05:55:18 AM
DK sounds like a serious NATURAL bodybuilder ... maybe he should post a pic and show us his massive quads

I already told you you missed something about that natural part.  ::) ::)

Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Dr Dutch on July 03, 2011, 05:59:08 AM
this is the key to the chicksters massive quads
That Chick/Parrillo pic is really disgusting...
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 03, 2011, 06:00:50 AM
I already told you you missed something about that natural part.  ::) ::)


you claimed natural competing in a natural federation .I never miss anything


just admit you talked too much shit and would own yourself with a pic and it's all good godzirra
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: DK II on July 03, 2011, 06:03:10 AM
you claimed natural competing in a natural federation .I never miss anything


just admit you talked too much shit and would own yourself with a pic and it's all good godzirra

Who ever said that i didn't?

Are you aware of the concept of time, Sebastian??  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: WillGrant on July 03, 2011, 06:35:23 AM
DK was a natty then realised he was pushing shit up a hill with a stick so embraced the darkside and now he likes being jabbed in the ass like the rest of us  ;D
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 03, 2011, 06:39:58 AM
Who ever said that i didn't?

Are you aware of the concept of time, Sebastian??  ::) ::)
haha

you will write volumes on getbig years on but will never post a pic cause you would be ashamed to be ripped apart .. so you keep on keeping on
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: wes on July 03, 2011, 06:44:56 AM
maybe your back doesnt believe in squats wes? haha
Not these days bro!  ;D
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: wes on July 03, 2011, 06:47:47 AM
Good read, great article, Bob.
X2 
I remember reading that in Flex if I`m not mistaken...............m emory is fading with time!  :(
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: WillGrant on July 03, 2011, 06:48:01 AM
Sev had some great quads and he squatted heavy with reps - maybe a genetic strong point for him but if the squat works for you then do it - if not find other alternatives or just up the dose  ;D
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: WillGrant on July 03, 2011, 06:50:47 AM
X2 
I remember reading that in Flex if I`m not mistaken...............m emory is fading with time!  :(
I think I read it back in the late 90s in Ironman - pretty sure it was with chick on the cover - I'll dig it out and see, I pretty much have been following chicks advice since reading that article other than squats as they work for me but I keep my reps above 10 and go as heavy as I can as long as I get over 10 reps.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 03, 2011, 07:09:39 AM
Sev had some great quads and he squatted heavy with reps - maybe a genetic strong point for him but if the squat works for you then do it - if not find other alternatives or just up the dose  ;D
squats were natural for me .. same with leg shape and developement

I would never ever recommend going heavy .. I cannot squat shit right now... my back is fucked up badly
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: wes on July 03, 2011, 07:25:10 AM
I think I read it back in the late 90s in Ironman - pretty sure it was with chick on the cover - I'll dig it out and see, I pretty much have been following chicks advice since reading that article other than squats as they work for me but I keep my reps above 10 and go as heavy as I can as long as I get over 10 reps.

Yeah,probably was Iron Man...........it`s tough gettin` old!! :)

I still do deadlifts (just started them again recently after years of not doing them) as they really seem to be helping my fucked up back...........gotta` go slow and easy though,my back injury is like a time bomb just waiting to be set off.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: wes on July 03, 2011, 07:26:08 AM

I would never ever recommend going heavy .. I cannot squat shit right now... my back is fucked up badly
Same here,though my squats could have never been on a par anywhere near where yours were.

Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: musclecenter on July 03, 2011, 07:29:26 AM
musclecenter, i think you've said you have lower back problems?

i can see why.  your lower back is rounding brutally at the bottom of your squats.  i have the same problem.

your pelvis shouldn't rotate like that at the bottom of a squat!!!
That's true
But my lower-back problems mostly from early days deadlifts.
Deadlifts not for bodybuilders,it's for powerlifters.
Now i doing smith-machine squats only since knee accident 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: wes on July 03, 2011, 07:31:52 AM
That's true
But my lower-back problems mostly from early days deadlifts.
Deadlifts not for bodybuilders,it's for powerlifters.
Now i doing smith-machine squats only since knee accident 2 years ago.
Good squats MC ! 
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: yates fan on July 04, 2011, 04:32:24 PM
didnt some of the pros with the best backs do deadlifts,franco,ronnie,dorian,even jay does them just not all that heavy.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 04, 2011, 04:36:52 PM
Since I started DLing regularly my back has got thicker but so has my waist.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: claymore on July 04, 2011, 04:44:30 PM
Hacks are f**king knee destroyers!!

100% correct !!
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: claymore on July 04, 2011, 04:49:16 PM
I favour doing high reps full-squats





Bingo..."I favour doing high reps full-squats" for people who haven't done this at the END or your leg workout go do 4 sets of 25 reps (100 total) of full rep squats and see what your legs feel and look like...thank me later  ;)
 
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: mrgut on July 04, 2011, 05:20:20 PM
The people who have problems with squats don't do them right. That is all there is to it.

 Too big of an ego to start and learn the form right and start light. I'm talking few months sub 60 lbs.

Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 05, 2011, 03:15:45 AM
Even a funny intended topic ends in a bitch fight.  ;D
Only on GB, ooooh yeah!
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: yates fan on July 05, 2011, 12:18:45 PM
i messed up my knees squating improperly the first few years i trained,corrected the problem and now no longer bothers my knees,i will always squat,but do agree hacks are better for quad developement.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Hulkotron on July 05, 2011, 12:36:45 PM
Good read, great article, Bob.

Three typos within the first three sentences.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: BiGHer on July 05, 2011, 01:04:13 PM
The people who have problems with squats don't do them right. That is all there is to it.


True for all excerises but definitely more so with squats.  GH15 is generally right though... break down the muscle tissue (however you choose really), eat lots of food, and take all the necessary hormones... Then you will grow
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: 20inch calves on July 05, 2011, 09:57:19 PM
this is the key to the chicksters massive quads


hey i actually use to do these minus the spotter :D seriously it burns your quads up. it is parillo machine. i don't like alot of the machines that he made but this one here works
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 05, 2011, 11:58:51 PM
When I was going heavy I noticed my stomach was bulging out due to internal pressure
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: oderus on July 06, 2011, 12:23:49 AM
When I was going heavy I noticed my stomach was bulging out due to internal pressure
where not interested in hearing stories about you sitting on your boy friends dick
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 06, 2011, 01:50:55 AM
where not interested in hearing stories about you sitting on your boy friends dick
you just mad cause I absolutely pwn you in squats and leg developement

you will never recover
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: oderus on July 06, 2011, 02:07:03 AM
you just mad cause I absolutely pwn you in squats and leg developement

you will never recover
also pwn me in sexual dysfunction



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hi gh15...i know you got tons of stuff to do and everybody pm's you so i hope u get the time to look at this and let me know what u think...i know u don't answer pm...so if u want me to post it on the forum i can do so....i'm 5'10" 190lbs...just got back to lifting after a layoff ...been off aas for 4 months now...i find my sex drive low...way too low...i think it's emotional with the girl i'm with...i used cialis...and still not much...i tried viagra 100 and that's for sure the real shit but here in romania it's way too expensive...now i never had this problem before , i did have a really high sex drive...i'm 30...and for more info or how i look i have a thread on pic's of members , my name is sevastase...just look mit up on the board and you'll find the thread. I read your post about test and sex drive and it clicked so i shot 2cc of sustanon and i can't get any  for about 2 months....can i continue with enthanate?...500mg that is...until i get more sust.?...also i wanna hear your thoughts on the erection issue...viagra ...test ...if it's related to erection or just sex drive...and whatever you think i fucking need to do because i'm 30...in love and the last thing i need now is a limp dick! I apreciate u taking the time and hope u find some advice for me...cheers.

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cialis should work fine,,so id follow what grant suggested.

about the test thing,,yes you can change,,i always prefer one ester over combo of esters,,simply because blood levels will be easier to keep stable.

when ever i do sust or omna i inject an amp/day,,,,when ever i inject one long ester test i inject it twice a week which make it a lot easier and a lot more time effective.

romania is known for fakes when it comes to amps so make sure you got the real deal,,,if you inject 750 mg of test and still cant get it on to f**k a hot (or ugly Wink) chic,,,,then try to use less anti estrogens,,people count too much on anti estrogens and it fucks up their sex life because estrogen is important too,,

also if this dont work get in some proviron,,,proviron will make the softest noodle hard and functionable,,,infact proviron is better than viagra and cialis in my opinion,,but this is my opinion.

if none of the above help,,,then the problem is in the head or is more serious and needed medical attention from a doc.
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Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 06, 2011, 04:10:33 AM
haha .. ok "oderus"
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Rhomboids on July 06, 2011, 05:17:28 AM
I've been natural all my training life.  i made excellent progress when i was a teenager through 21.  I had nothing to do but train, eat, sleep.  This GH15 guy talks so much shit about GH and what not i'd like to punch him in the face to see if he shits GH. 

I've experienced great gains simply eating clean, slowly increasing weights by as little as possible.  At my biggest i never ever did below 5reps.  I was benching 335, squatting 515x15 (paralell) and deadlifting 500.  Nothing like the monsters in here, but it was great for me.  Being much older now i can't get my diet like i should because i'm only working out to stay in shape, not competing.  I now for a fact that there is a direct correlation between strength and size. 

Of course training for pure strength won't have you be huge - just look at Olympic lifters.  But if you increase your calories and avoid doing singles and doubles, you will put on a decent amount of size.  When i was at my best i was beastly and powerful.  Fuck GH15 and his insistence that you cant have a build past a swimmer lest you take doses of GH. 
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: DK II on July 06, 2011, 05:23:54 AM
I've been natural all my training life.  i made excellent progress when i was a teenager through 21.  I had nothing to do but train, eat, sleep.  This GH15 guy talks so much shit about GH and what not i'd like to punch him in the face to see if he shits GH. 

I've experienced great gains simply eating clean, slowly increasing weights by as little as possible.  At my biggest i never ever did below 5reps.  I was benching 335, squatting 515x15 (paralell) and deadlifting 500.  Nothing like the monsters in here, but it was great for me.  Being much older now i can't get my diet like i should because i'm only working out to stay in shape, not competing.  I now for a fact that there is a direct correlation between strength and size. 

Of course training for pure strength won't have you be huge - just look at Olympic lifters.  But if you increase your calories and avoid doing singles and doubles, you will put on a decent amount of size.  When i was at my best i was beastly and powerful.  Fuck GH15 and his insistence that you cant have a build past a swimmer lest you take doses of GH. 


 ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 06, 2011, 05:28:44 AM
I've been natural all my training life.  i made excellent progress when i was a teenager through 21.  I had nothing to do but train, eat, sleep.  This GH15 guy talks so much shit about GH and what not i'd like to punch him in the face to see if he shits GH. 

I've experienced great gains simply eating clean, slowly increasing weights by as little as possible.  At my biggest i never ever did below 5reps.  I was benching 335, squatting 515x15 (paralell) and deadlifting 500.  Nothing like the monsters in here, but it was great for me.  Being much older now i can't get my diet like i should because i'm only working out to stay in shape, not competing.  I now for a fact that there is a direct correlation between strength and size. 

Of course training for pure strength won't have you be huge - just look at Olympic lifters.  But if you increase your calories and avoid doing singles and doubles, you will put on a decent amount of size.  When i was at my best i was beastly and powerful.  Fuck GH15 and his insistence that you cant have a build past a swimmer lest you take doses of GH. 

good grief

where do delusional twats like you come from? you are either high on PCP or cannot add numbers "rhomboids"

the only "beastly" thing in your life was the time when you downed 3 shots of horse sperm from that beast "Black Beauty"
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Big Worm on July 06, 2011, 07:42:24 AM
ask yourself this friends,,

kamali squats a lot...heavy! ,,did it help him? see curent condition

thomas prince used to squat a lot....heavyyyyyy...did it ummm help him? see current condition lol

mikelango fransuia... squated a lottttttt....heavvvvy,, did it ummm help him? see current condition

list go onnnn and onnnnn and onnnnnn


now look at those fellas..

denis wolfe...doesnt squat much,, work hacks and even that he can find ways around it,, top 5 bodybuild in the world

dexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxar jaxson,, doesnt squat much,,prefer hacks and even that he can find ways around it,, number 1 bodybuild in the world..yes still!


philsulina heath,, doesnt do shit lol just pump muscles lol ,,top 5 bodybuild in the world


list go on and on and on and on ,,

im surporized you fellas havent learned yet that reality of the matter is that if a girl can get her leg to look nice thick and developed with 25lb paltes acros a bar.. or many times on machines... lol you as bodybuild can do exact same thing,,

this is so wrong whats going on in the cult for so many years,, you see ron colman ass to the ground severe mutation of outstanding development that came from respond to hormone and genetic respond to hormones and over all respond to training,, you see him sqwuating heavy for video and you think oh ill go do that ,, and same for the othr...dont you understand we do it for videos mainly? after all this time dont youget it?

yes you can work with 4 plates each side of a bar and squat,,will you do it relegiously and grow better and bigger for long time ,,NO,, will you kill yourself on the way ? YES YOU WILL ,, WILL IT RESULT IN BIGGER MUSCLE WITH OUT HORMONES AND ENOUGH OF THEM ? N E V E R


work smart fellas dont work with the balonie you read on muscular devlop or flex,, those are liars ,,they work on you round and round like the song goes ,,and you always fall for this ,,

gh15 approved



So .... Lift light and go heavy on the drugs..? Correct..? 
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 06, 2011, 07:52:49 AM
So .... Lift light smart and go heavy on the drugs..? Correct..? 

No, this
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Meso_z on July 06, 2011, 07:56:39 AM

 ::) ::) ::) ::)
lmao. Another hero.
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Meso_z on July 06, 2011, 07:58:13 AM
When I was going heavy I noticed my stomach was bulging out due to internal pressure
Me to man. Thank God I have some aches in my knees lately that stop me from going stupid "heavy"...
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: DK II on July 06, 2011, 08:20:55 AM
lmao. Another hero.

"beastly and powerful", i bet his inbox is already bursting from Matt C's pms.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: Meso_z on July 06, 2011, 08:39:58 AM
"beastly and powerful", i bet his inbox is already bursting from Matt C's pms.  ;D ;D ;D
:D
Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: MCWAY on July 06, 2011, 08:48:24 AM
Im sorry...I must have pasted the wrong link to you

The link I posted was to an article I wrote a few years ago, it details why I think some exercises are outdated, and dont make much sense, while there are plenty of other options for those with enough brains to think for themselves

My bad...

Would that be the "Butchering Sacred Cows" article for FLEX, the "Squats Suck; Benches Blow" article for IronMan, or the one (the name of which eludes me) you did for MuscleMag, all around the mid/late 2002 or early 2003 timeframe?

And, if I'm not mistaken, right next to your "Butchering Sacred Cows" article, in which you criticize squats (didn't you blow a disc from heavy squatting), there's an article by Melvin Anthony, singing the praises of squats and what they did for HIS legs.

The point you made, and an excellent one at that, is that doing certain exercises just because it's what the old-timers did is basically a bad strategy.

Even they didn't follow that mantra as if it were gospel. Arnold claimed that, when he started training with Vince Gironda, everybody was doing preacher curls, because that was the exercise that Larry Scott used to blow up his arms, en route to his two Olympia wins.

Arnold noted that, while preacher curls did wonders for Scott, they did far less for his arm development.

Title: Re: Shocking Tip of the Week: Squats
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 06, 2011, 10:02:59 AM
Like if that Flex article was written by Marvelous Melvin himself  ::) ::)

Wasn't it Chihuahua Ray who 'confessed' that he never did cable crosses in his own training, except for a photoshoot?

BB mags are full of lies, and any getbigger should know that.