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12 friggen thousand years old - it doubles the existence of human civilization.
They haven't found a single stone cutting tool or any other tools found.
Created 11 - 12 thousand years old and at a later stage tightly packed and covered by earth for unknown reason.
http://www.wimp.com/unexplainedstructure/
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Earth is only 6000 years old though so Satan planted that thing!!
anyway I cant remember whats its called, but they found a something that dates back to the stoneage that would be the equivalent of a swiss watch today. At the time when everything basically just look like random rock things. pretty cool. cannot remember what the f it was called though.
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Earth is only 6000 years old though so Satan planted that thing!!
anyway I cant remember whats its called, but they found a something that dates back to the stoneage that would be the equivalent of a swiss watch today. At the time when everything basically just look like random rock things. pretty cool. cannot remember what the f it was called though.
The theory is that civilizations existed way before we think the first one established.
Wonder whats going to happen of our civilization once we are gone.
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The theory is that civilizations existed way before we think the first one established.
Wonder whats going to happen of our civilization once we are gone.
Ofc it did.
I believe we have existed a LONG ass time and been resetted due to natural disaters and comets for example a Few times.
And it will ofc eventually happen again.
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Ofc it did.
I believe we have existed a LONG ass time and been resetted due to natural disaters and comets for example a Few times.
And it will ofc eventually happen again.
Unless we are advanced enough to figure out how to defend ourselve from anything that may hit us.
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Unless we are advanced enough to figure out how to defend ourselve from anything that may hit us.
I doubt anything can stop a Massive comet. Shooting up missiles at it probably works in movies not irl lol.
Unless your talking about 1-200 years from now, then we might have figured some shit out.
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I doubt anything can stop a Massive comet. Shooting up missiles at it probably works in movies not irl lol.
Unless your talking about 1-200 years from now, then we might have figured some shit out.
Well that all depend what material the comet or meteor is made of, soft hard ultra hard.
Right now a comet or meteor seems to be the only thing that could have a catastrophic civilization ending potential.
So if we can indenitfy each and every rock out there big enough to end our civilization you would be able to guide these
rocks out of our path, we have already landed probes on asteroids so it is possible.
The problem right now is that nobody wants to spend money on it meaning nobody seems to see any immediate danger which means
that most likely you will wake up at night one day and the next second your gone.
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So if we can indenitfy each and every rock out there big enough to end our civilization
I hope you're kidding ;D
some day we Will eventually be Fucked. And I doubt the "goverment" will let anyone know before we can see it coming with our own eyes
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I hope you're kidding ;D
Well what I meant was to identify every rock out there (in our Galaxy) that has a direct flightpath crossing mother earth - you feel me?
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Well what I meant was to identify every rock out there (in our Galaxy) that has a direct flightpath crossing mother earth - you feel me?
Doesnt this change all the time? as in you cannot tell (throwing something out there) more then one year in advance.. and if its Big enough and ofc hard. there isn't Shit we can do. wasnt there a "close call" recently which would have ended the planet if it was on a slightly different path.. Its happened before. ice age etc and will eventually happen again.
we have a few volcanoes that could fuck shit up also. Isn't one of them in yellowstone park?
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I hope you're kidding ;D
some day we Will eventually be Fucked. And I doubt the "goverment" will let anyone know before we can see it coming with our own eyes
hahaha you really believe that these numbnuts are able to keep a cataclysmic even under wraps? they aren't able to keep
documents leaking out to the main stream media :D
When ever i hear that "they" want to keep it quite I snicker a little and remind myself how fucking incompetent most governments really are.
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where is the proof of this was made 12000 years ago?
I call this bullshit... it could be decades old or max - couple of hundreds of years..
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hahaha you really believe that these numbnuts are able to keep a cataclysmic even under wraps? they aren't able to keep
documents leaking out to the main stream media :D
When ever i hear that "they" want to keep it quite I snicker a little and remind myself how fucking incompetent most governments really are.
I actually do. have you any idea what woul dhappen if people realised we all were going to die in 2 days.. I actually Hope they manage to keep theour mouth shut.
When a a scientist realises it, he will probably get shot before he has the time to tell anyone lol.
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where is the proof of this was made 12000 years ago?
I call this bullshit... it could be decades old or max - couple of hundreds of years..
lol.
you know we can Date things right? right? carbon dating for example?
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Doesnt this change all the time? as in you cannot tell (throwing something out there) more then one year in advance.. and if its Big enough and ofc hard. there isn't Shit we can do. wasnt there a "close call" recently which would have ended the planet if it was on a slightly different path.. Its happened before. ice age etc and will eventually happen again.
we have a few volcanoes that could fuck shit up also. Isn't one of them in yellowstone park?
No close call - unless you want to call a couple of thousand of miles away rock passing the moon a close call.
These "close" calls are usually hyped up by the media with the usual cataclysmic graphics of a massive rock hitting earth attached.
Fact is - it is possible to track and keep track of rocks out there with a certain size and an ecliptic orbit that could get dangerous to us.
Yellowstone and any other volcano could get dangerous of course we have dangers on our own home ground and the actual end of times do not have to come from outer space, but chances are that humans will survive - we are like a bad smell :D
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where is the proof of this was made 12000 years ago?
I call this bullshit... it could be decades old or max - couple of hundreds of years..
I bet you also believe the earth is only 2k years old that god put skeletons of dinos in the earth to test our faith ::)
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No close call - unless you want to call a couple of thousand of miles away rock passing the moon a close call.
These "close" calls are usually hyped up by the media with the usual cataclysmic graphics of a massive rock hitting earth attached.
Fact is - it is possible to track and keep track of rocks out there with a certain size and an ecliptic orbit that could get dangerous to us.
Yellowstone and any other volcano could get dangerous of course we have dangers on our own home ground and the actual end of times do not have to come from outer space, but chances are that humans will survive - we are like a bad smell :D
well close calls as in how close a "Deadly" comet usually gets to us ofc.
a decent sized comet in the ocean and we would be fucked right thurr. Thats why I want to live high up and not near the damn water. Big parts of ameica will be ruined Fast though.
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I bet you also believe the earth is only 2k years old that god put skeletons of dinos in the earth to test our faith ::)
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you can go to harvard and still think earth is the only planet with moons. ;D
HARVARD EDUCATION
...only in america ;D
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hahah - did he actually say that?
Fuck do hate Bill O Riley - the guy is the picture perfect example of an ignorant uneducated backward moral crusader - its
people like him that stop us to reach out into outer space and link up with the ancestors that have left earth thousands of years ago to life in peace and harmony forever and ever.
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hahah - did he actually say that?
Fuck do hate Bill O Riley - the guy is the picture perfect example of an ignorant uneducated backward moral crusader - its
people like him that stop us to reach out into outer space and link up with the ancestors that have left earth thousands of years ago to life in peace and harmony forever and ever.
lol, no what he said was equally stupid though
"Tide goes in, tide goes out. Never a miscommunication. You can't explain that,” and thats proof of god ;D (ignoring what role the moon play in tides) harvard education afterall ;D
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lololol with the moon haha totally ignorant that the existence can be explained without a shadow of a doubt :D :D
Such an ignorant little shit
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and that resulted in a hillarious meme explosion ;D
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Earth is only 6000 years old though so Satan planted that thing!!
anyway I cant remember whats its called, but they found a something that dates back to the stoneage that would be the equivalent of a swiss watch today. At the time when everything basically just look like random rock things. pretty cool. cannot remember what the f it was called though.
The Antikythera Mechanism?
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The Antikythera Mechanism?
Yes!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism
very interestinmg and just further proof that we have been civilised and advanced a few times imo.
I havent read much about it though, so corrct me if Im fucking something up lol
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and that resulted in a hillarious meme explosion ;D
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lol I love how he calls everybody who isn't on his side "pin heads" :D
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Doesnt this change all the time? as in you cannot tell (throwing something out there) more then one year in advance.. and if its Big enough and ofc hard. there isn't Shit we can do. wasnt there a "close call" recently which would have ended the planet if it was on a slightly different path.. Its happened before. ice age etc and will eventually happen again.
we have a few volcanoes that could fuck shit up also. Isn't one of them in yellowstone park?
Speaking of ancient civilizations, the inverse square law of gravity (accurate enough to track local "space rocks" for longer than we'd ever need) has been known and loved for close to half a millenium.
*The term "local" is used on the scale of the Universe. There are certainly objects, even in our own galaxy, that will encounter gravitational fields large enough for the higher order corrections GR gives to Newtonian gravity to have significance, but (as far as we know....but they would be hard to miss) any objects massive enough to cause this worry are pretty fucking far away. Certainly far enough away that the affected "space rocks" aren't going to be a threat to us for another thousand millennia or so.
**We can (GPS satellites require it) track these higher order corrections for near-earth objects too, but the field equations are non-linear and use up a lot of computing power to give corrections that amount to basically knowing if the life-ending comet will hit us in New York or Buffalo.
***Quantum computers will have no problem handling the calculations to almost arbitrary precision, but event they'll be an ancient technology (and probably long since forgotten altogether) by the time any rock far enough away to warrant that kind of precision came close enough to even detect from earth. FML
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not impressed by these half assed" structures"
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i saw a show on this it was called ancient aliens
the bible story still makes the most sense thou,
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Speaking of ancient civilizations, the inverse square law of gravity (accurate enough to track local "space rocks" for longer than we'd ever need) has been known and loved for close to half a millenium.
*The term "local" is used on the scale of the Universe. There are certainly objects, even in our own galaxy, that will encounter gravitational fields large enough for the higher order corrections GR gives to Newtonian gravity to have significance, but (as far as we know....but they would be hard to miss) any objects massive enough to cause this worry are pretty fucking far away. Certainly far enough away that the affected "space rocks" aren't going to be a threat to us for another thousand millennia or so.
**We can (GPS satellites require it) track these higher order corrections for near-earth objects too, but the field equations are non-linear and use up a lot of computing power to give corrections that amount to basically knowing if the life-ending comet will hit us in New York or Buffalo.
***Quantum computers will have no problem handling the calculations to almost arbitrary precision, but event they'll be an ancient technology (and probably long since forgotten altogether) by the time any rock far enough away to warrant that kind of precision came close enough to even detect from earth. FML
alright, I was as I kinda thought talking out of my ass then ;D
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alright, I was and I kinda thought talking out of my ass then ;D
at least you are man enough to admit it = as always mucho respect for you
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at least you are man enough to admit it = as always mucho respect for you
proven wrong = now you know even more = Positive!
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when you want to make something sound serious do no interview a bullshit journalist with botox and bad facial surgery , ruins it all.
every person interviewed sounds bogus or has something to sell, and the pictures of the site doesnt prove anything... maybe a more valuable scientific source and confirmation would be welcome...
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when you want to make something sound serious do no interview a bullshit journalist with botox and bad facial surgery , ruins it all.
every person interviewed sounds bogus or has something to sell, and the pictures of the site doesnt prove anything... maybe a more valuable scientific source and confirmation would be welcome...
honestly she was a hot fuckin mature slut with the big lips and wide mouth, something about that turns me on everytime
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where is the proof of this was made 12000 years ago?
I call this bullshit... it could be decades old or max - couple of hundreds of years..
or built 6 months ago by turkey to make dumb tourists come visit a new attraction...
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A bit off topic here but it may be of interest ....
While surfing the net to look some of this stuff up I discovered that the world as we know it will end after the Euphrates River dries up.
ANd then I discovered that artifacts like this are being discovered because the Euphrates River is drying up due to the drought and misuse.
This info was posted on the net about two years ago and there is no current report on the river's recovery or otherwise.
Any Euphrates River dwellers on this Board???
QUOTE from the net... The shrinking of the Euphrates, a river so crucial to the birth of civilization that the Book of Revelation prophesied its drying up as a sign of the end times, has decimated farms along its banks, left fishermen impoverished and depleted riverside towns, forcing farmers to flee to the cities looking for work.
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hahaha you really believe that these numbnuts are able to keep a cataclysmic even under wraps? they aren't able to keep
documents leaking out to the main stream media :D
When ever i hear that "they" want to keep it quite I snicker a little and remind myself how fucking incompetent most governments really are.
Area 51...... We can't keep a Marine beach invasion secret and news cameras are filming us coming ashore... yet we can keep space ships and aliens secret for 40 yrs? hahahahahahaha!
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DOLSON, your mention of it is the first time I've ever heard of the INVERSE SQUARE LAW OF GRAVITY, so I looked it up because I find it interesting to read about stuff that is almost impossible for me to understand.... and here is what I found.
"Inverse Square Law, General.....
Any point source which spreads its influence equally in all directions without a limit to its range will obey the inverse square law. This comes from strictly geometrical considerations. The intensity of the influence at any given radius r is the source strength divided by the area of the sphere. Being strictly geometric in its origin, the inverse square law applies to diverse phenomena. Point sources of gravitational force, electric field, light, sound or radiation obey the inverse square law. It is a subject of continuing debate with a source such as a skunk on top of a flag pole; will it's smell drop off according to the inverse square law?"
Is the above what you were referring to and can you recommend a good book on the subject? I can recall reading something about this relating to sound waves that never go silent due to the fact that they travel into the infinity, but I am completely 'dumbed out' on this subject and find it interesting.
Can you recommend any good reading material on this subject?
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BS. carbon dating what exactly? if you carbon date a rock it will be 4 billion years old, give or take a billion :)
even said they did not find a single stone cutting tool at the site, which you would normally carbon date.
but now there will be books sold and more grants to dig. still interesting cultural find I suppose, whatever
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Those carvings were made from mud and formed. Then the sun hardened everything.
Think outside the box.
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Turkey, chicken, beef.
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(http://static02.mediaite.com/geekosystem/uploads/2011/02/boats-float.jpeg)
you can go to harvard and still think earth is the only planet with moons. ;D
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyHzhtARf8M&feature=player_embedded#at=30[youtube]
HARVARD EDUCATION
...only in america ;D
There has been speculation that if the "greenhouse" gasses didn't take over on Venus it too might have life. So yeah, you could call it luck that we are only living things on our system that we know of for now.
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BS. carbon dating what exactly? if you carbon date a rock it will be 4 billion years old, give or take a billion :)
even said they did not find a single stone cutting tool at the site, which you would normally carbon date.
but now there will be books sold and more grants to dig. still interesting cultural find I suppose, whatever
rocks can't be carbon dated, but I see your point, nothing was found that can be dated.....except for mud which is pretty lame...
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There has been speculation that if the "greenhouse" gasses didn't take over on Venus it too might have life. So yeah, you could call it luck that we are only living things on our system that we know of for now.
That is a huuuuuuuuuuuuge if and believe me if Venus would have got past this hurdle there would be thousands more
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I love the two genius', Swede and Stark discussing our existence. Does it get any better than that?
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12 friggen thousand years old - it doubles the existence of human civilization.
They haven't found a single stone cutting tool or any other tools found.
Created 11 - 12 thousand years old and at a later stage tightly packed and covered by earth for unknown reason.
http://www.wimp.com/unexplainedstructure/
lol.. civilization is much older than 12 thousand years.. it took millions of years for humans to evolve.. by looking at the fossil records you can see that we have been basically the same for the past 100,000 years and more.
lol, no what he said was equally stupid though
"Tide goes in, tide goes out. Never a miscommunication. You can't explain that,” and thats proof of god ;D (ignoring what role the moon play in tides) harvard education afterall ;D
he isnt the sharpest tool in the shed, he doesnt present his argument properly. but what hes getting at is the principle of causality, and hes right about that.
something exists. so where did it come from? you cant explain it without God.
i saw a show on this it was called ancient aliens
the bible story still makes the most sense thou,
bible story doesnt make sense, what makes sense is God. bible story is directly contradicted by facts. creation by God is directly supported by every observable fact.
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you cant explain it without God.fact.
what kind of explanation is god exactly? hahahaha.
God is as good of a explanation as "I dont know" And not knowing is fine. But dont make up a pathetic word instead of not knowing.
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LOL @ little brother Sweede & Stark trying to "figure out" the orgin of mankind's earliest civilization ::) ;D :P
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what kind of explanation is god exactly? hahahaha.
God is as good of a explanation as "I dont know" And not knowing is fine. But dont make up a pathetic word instead of not knowing.
With this logic, then its fair to say you don't know if God existd or not.
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what kind of explanation is god exactly? hahahaha.
God is as good of a explanation as "I dont know" And not knowing is fine. But dont make up a pathetic word instead of not knowing.
what kind of an explanation is God? its the ONLY explanation.
science, by definition, can never provide an explanation.
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LOL @ little brother Sweede & Stark trying to "figure out" the orgin of mankind's earliest civilization ::) ;D :P
If anyone can do it.... a getbigger can ;D
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what kind of an explanation is God? its the ONLY explanation.
science, by definition, can never provide an explanation.
sometimes I wonder if a troll parasite has taken over your brain without you realising it. Or maby you just ruined it with coke. Its one or the other
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sometimes I wonder if a troll parasite has taken over your brain without you realising it. Or maby you just ruined it with coke. Its one or the other
Maybe Joe Rogaine can explain it all to you..... ::)
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all we need are some aliens folks to come visit with a fresh look from the outside to properly figure out human history. we're too confused
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Maybe Joe Rogaine can explain it all to you..... ::)
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Joe rogan is the ONLY explanation!!!!!!
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sometimes I wonder if a troll parasite has taken over your brain without you realising it. Or maby you just ruined it with coke. Its one or the other
what is an atom made of?
what caused the big bang?
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what caused the big bang?
I dont know, and neither do you.. Its that simple.
And thats Ok you dont have to resort to fiction to ease your mind unless you're a weak bitch that is
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I doubt anything can stop a Massive comet. Shooting up missiles at it probably works in movies not irl lol.
Unless your talking about 1-200 years from now, then we might have figured some shit out.
The idea is to redirect it with thrusters, not blow it up.
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I dont know, and neither do you.. Its that simple.
And thats Ok you dont have to resort to fiction to ease your mind unless you're a weak bitch that is
do you understand that science will never find 'the answer' to any meaningful question about existence?
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do you understand that science will never find 'the answer' to any meaningful question about existence?
Do you understand that "god" is the easy way out for weak minded bitches like yourself?
(its ok to take the easy way out like yourself but dont act like you "know")
I dont know know that science will and will not eventually prove. Neither do you.. Its that simple we have to wait and see
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Do you understand that "god" is the easy way out for weak minded bitches like yourself?
I dont know know that science will and will not eventually prove. Neither do you.. Its that simple
we KNOW that science can never answer any meaningful question about why things exist, where they come from, how all the physical laws got to be the way they are..etc.
see, you still have much to learn.
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what kind of an explanation is God? its the ONLY explanation.
Can you elaborate? Just making a statement like this without backing it up doesn't make your argument any clearer.
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we KNOW that science can never answer any meaningful question about why things exist, where they come from, how all the physical laws got to be the way they are..etc.
see, you still have much to learn.
did you not Read my response? Some things will probably never be explained. Some things that we dont think will be explained might... Or it might not..
see, you still have much to learn.
Or I could just pretend like you? lol
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what is an atom made of?
what caused the big bang?
no body knows for sure because the theories can not be thoroughly tested but. best latest guesses by scientists are:
planck scale energy
quantum fluctuation
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what caused the big bang?
Now explain this..
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Can you elaborate? Just making a statement like this without backing it up doesn't make your argument any clearer.
well we know that science can never provide an explanation for existence in any way, because all science can do is trace causality backwards.. and either there is an infinite regression, or there is a point where a magical first cause, an uncaused caused is found. the only logical explanation for anything is God.
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the only logical explanation for anything is God.
hahahaah. Parasite man is back. Would you want to get fucked by bill o riley? (serious question)
the only logical explanation to a question you dont know. Is saying that ....I dont know.
see, you still have much to learn
you obviously prefer pretending though
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did you not Read my response? Some things will probably never be explained. Some things that we dont think will be explained might... Or it might not..
see, you still have much to learn.
Or I could just pretend like you? lol
its not that somethings will probably never be explained, its that nothing will ever be explained sufficiently and there will never be any logical explanation for existence besides God. and thats the fact.
now one could cop out and resign to the notion that existence doesnt make sense, and that they dont feel there is any need for a logical explanation to things. in that scenario, the person has avoided thinking about existence in a rational way, but they still have to deal with the existence of their self.. and inexplaining that they would have to either deny themselves altogether or eventually accept God as their creator.
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well we know that science can never provide an explanation for existence in any way, because all science can do is trace causality backwards.. and either there is an infinite regression, or there is a point where a magical first cause, an uncaused caused is found. the only logical explanation for anything is God.
How is God the only logical explanation? There are so many things we have not discovered about the universe. There is a chance we can find out what had happened or why things exist. Making statements like that only stifle further exploration.
Using terms like never is an uneducated answer.
Remember, back in 1899 the US Patent Office said everything that can be invented has. I would like to think 1 or 2 things have been invented since ;)
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hahahaah. Parasite man is back. Would you want to get fucked by bill o riley? (serious question)
the only logical explanation to a question you dont know. Is saying that ....I dont know.
see, you still have much to learn
you obviously prefer pretending though
aha! youve made some progress! so now if someone asks you about God, or about atheism, about anything spriritual in nature.. you can not claim to be atheist but you have to say "i dont know" !
:)
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its not that somethings will probably never be explained, its that nothing will ever be explained sufficiently and there will never be any logical explanation for existence besides God. and thats the fact.
haha, Im not going to bother cokeboy. I guess god might be better then coke to ease your mind anyway so
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How is God the only logical explanation? There are so many things we have not discovered about the universe. There is a chance we can find out what had happened or why things exist. Making statements like that only stifle further exploration.
Using terms like never is an uneducated answer.
Remember, back in 1899 the US Patent Office said everything that can be invented has. I would like to think 1 or 2 things have been invented since ;)
no no no
u just dont get it
no matter what we ever discover, it wont explain anything
either there is infinite regression, or theres magic
theres only two options, and neither are explainable by science.
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aha! youve made some progress! so now if someone asks you about God, or about atheism, about anything spriritual in nature.. you can not claim to be atheist but you have to say "i dont know" !
:)
I dont recall mentioning Im an athetist.
I could however if I wanted to claim that an ant up in the sky created everything, but no one happen to have a mushroom trip about it and write it down though
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no no no
u just dont get it
no matter what we ever discover, it wont explain anything
either there is infinite regression, or theres magic
theres only two options, and neither are explainable by science.
I think it is you that does not "get it".
By already stating you "know" there are only 2 possibilities, you are limiting yourself to another possible truth. What could it be? I don't know. But being limiting yourself to possibilities is the worst thing you can do when you want to find an answer.
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I think it is you that does not "get it".
By already stating you "know" there are only 2 possibilities, you are limiting yourself to another possible truth. What could it be? I don't know. But being limiting yourself to possibilities is the worst thing you can do when you want to find an answer.
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either things have always been, or they have a beginning.
thats pretty simple, theres no other option.
and that implies either there is an infinite regression, or there was magic.
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either things have always been, or they have a beginning.
thats pretty simple, theres no other option.
and that implies either there is an infinite regression, or there was magic.
why? because it "has" to? how do you know?
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why? because it "has" to? how do you know?
;D what other option is there? that nothing ever existed at all? ;D
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;D what other option is there? that nothing ever existed at all? ;D
You got it !
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;D what other option is there? that nothing ever existed at all? ;D
coke was on your table one second, then in your nose the other
cant explain that
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I dont recall mentioning Im an athetist.I could however if I wanted to claim that an ant up in the sky created everything, but no one happen to have a mushroom trip about it and write it down though
Your argueing like a 6 year old, "I never told you my skin was purple either"...Bro I am certainly not in agreement with Tbombs most of the time, but you're always leaving the subject with a bruised ego resorting to emotional attack...where as Tbombs is sticking to the subject....Just an observation....Tbombs is kicking your ass, hope this helps.
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coke was on your table one second, then in your nose the other
cant explain that
:'(
one day, hopefully, maybe when your 20-30 years older, youll actually think about these things.
it seems my attempts to get you engaged in this discussion have been futile
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Your argueing like a 6 year old, "I never told you my skin was purple either"...Bro I am certainly not in agreement with Tbombs most of the time, but you're always leaving the subject with a bruised ego resorting to emotional attack...where as Tbombs is sticking to the subject....Just an observation....Tbombs is kicking your ass, hope this helps.
Owning me by saying
"you can not claim to be atheist but you have to say "i dont know" !"
When I havent said I would say anything besides that?
owning me by pretending that "god" is the answer to questions no one can answer? my "god" you're dumb lol.
and im "attacking" him since the argument wont go anywhere, I know where he stand (pretend world) and he knows where I stand (being Ok not knowing something no one knows)
and If you think I have a "bruised" ego or "emotional" you're even more stupid then I first though lol.
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:'(
one day, hopefully, maybe when your 20-30 years older, youll actually think about these things.
it seems my attempts to get you engaged in this discussion have been futile
No one Knows, and Im ok with not knowing..
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everything is god if you want to, because you can define god to be anything, 7 billion definitions and counting,
let's say there is an intelligent self aware entity that have power to create large energy fluctuations and created this universe. To some it would be just that, and part of science. And to some that would be god, same thing in the end.
let's say the natural laws within quantum physics randomly created this universe, it would be science. everything is scientifically explainable but probably not all within reach of human understanding and concepts, and so some people chose to call that part of science god.
it's all science no matter what truth.
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everything is god if you want to, because you can define god to be anything, 7 billion definitions and counting,
let's say there is an intelligent self aware entity that have power to create large energy fluctuations and created this universe. To some it would be just that, and part of science. And to some that would be god, same thing in the end.
let's say the natural laws within quantum physics randomly created this universe, it would be science. everything is scientifically explainable but probably not all within reach of human understanding and concepts, and so some people chose to call that part of science god.
it's all science no matter what truth.
no. in neither of those situations would science be able to explain the happenings.
science cant even explain the human experience.
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kicking my ass by saying god and god and god? lol
"you can not claim to be atheist but you have to say "i dont know" !"
What does that has to do with Anything if I havent claimed to be an athetist was my point. explain?
Telling me to do something I already know? What point is that? explain? ???
There are thousands of your post that strongly imply that who ever belives in God is dumb, clearly you don't,.....all of a sudden its "i don't know", well thats good to know you are making progress, but what's most important here is that you keep calling Tbombs bitch, fag, and reffer to him snorting coke,... what does that have to do with the debate at hand?
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There are thousands of your post that strongly imply that who ever belives in God is dumb, clearly you don't,.....all of a sudden its "i don't know", well thats good to know you are making progress, but what's most important here is that you keep calling Tbombs bitch, fag, and reffer to him snorting coke,... what does that have to do with the debate at hand?
Thats to provoke.
Im ok with people beliving in "god". If that makes them feel better about themself and become happy.
What Im not ok with is claiming you Know "god" created something you dont know.. you Think you do. If you say "I Think god created bla bla" then I have no problem what so ever. Unless its something thats actually Proven ofc.
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Thats to provoke.
Im ok with people beliving in "god". If that makes them feel better about themself and become happy.
What is not Ok is claiming you Know "god" created something you dont know..
fair enough
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Thats to provoke.
Im ok with people beliving in "god". If that makes them feel better about themself and become happy.
What Im not ok with is claiming you Know "god" created something you dont know.. you Think you do. If you say "I Think god created bla bla" then I have no problem what so ever. Unless its something thats actually Proven ofc.
but i never said i knew god created everything
what i know, what we know, is that science can never explain existence
and that god is the only logical explanation for it
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but i never said i knew god created everything
what i know, what we know, is that science can never explain existence
and that god is the only logical explanation for it
You just contradicted yourself! Great job.
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but i never said i knew god created everything
what i know, what we know, is that science can never explain existence
and that god is the only logical explanation for it
what kind of an explanation is God? its the ONLY explanation.
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And a question that No One Knows doesnt have a explanation.
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fair enough
First it wasn't fair now its fair
...can't explain that
;D
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And a question that No One Knows doesnt have a explanation.
just cause nobody knows the explanation doesnt mean there isnt one. in fact, there is always an explanation for everything.
You just contradicted yourself! Great job.
there is no condradiction there
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First it wasn't fair now its fair
...can't explain that
;D
funny guy ;D
fair.....doesn't mean I agree with you, just means your thinking is somewhat rational
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just cause nobody knows the explanation doesnt mean there isnt one. in fact, there is always an explanation for everything.
What does that has to do with anything ?
"I never claimed there wasn't a explanation"
americans loves to answer stuff that wasn't brought up ;D
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no. in neither of those situations would science be able to explain the happenings.
science cant even explain the human experience.
but if a god explained it to you, then it would be come science :)
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What does that has to do with anything ?
"I never claimed there wasn't a explanation"
its a direct reply to your reply.
if there is an explanation, which there always is, then the only logical one is God.
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its a direct reply to your reply.
if there is an explanation, which there always is, then the only logical one is God.
nooo, the logical explanation is that NO ONE KNOWS at this moment. We might eventually, we might not. We dont know that either.
Never said we will Never know. We dont know right now.. doesnt matter how much people pretend that they do...
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but if a god explained it to you, then it would be come science :)
your assuming god could expain his own omnipotence to anyone else but himself. to god, yes of course its all 'science'. to us, somethings are simply magic.
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its a direct reply to your reply.
if there is an explanation, which there always is, then the only logical one is God.
Are you sure about that?
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nooo, the logical explanation is that NO ONE KNOWS at this moment. We might eventually, we might not. We dont know that either.
no one knows isnt an explanation its an admittance of ignorance. we will never know unless we know that it was God, otherwise it will still be up in the air, and we know that.
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no one knows isnt an explanation its an admittance of ignorance. we will never know unless we know that it was God, otherwise it will still be up in the air, and we know that.
How the fuck is admitting what everyone Knows ignorance? Isn't ignorance pretending you know something which you Dont.?
you're too religious to keep the discussion sane..
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Are you sure about that?
as sure as i know that i exist ;)
ignorance is Pretending you know something you KNOW that you dont know. Like some religious people love to do.
ignorance is a lack of knowledge, pretending to know something you dont is lying.
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let's carbon date god if he/she/it exists, as soon as we get the chance, or maybe some of his stone carving tools,
this would be interesting to see if older than our universe!
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as sure as i know that i exist ;)
ignorance is a lack of knowledge, pretending to know something you dont is lying.
How can you have lack of of knowledge about something there is no Real knowledge about? to the point of being ignorant? ???
I guess not listening to science would be ignorant then, since they might not Know but they're trying to find out
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How can you have lack of of knowledge about something there is no Real knowledge about? to the point of being ignorant? ???
lack of knowledge= ignorance.
it would be accurate to say that everyone is ignorant to the cause and purpouse of existence.
however there is one possible logical explanation, and its very easy for most people to make the leap of faith and accept it as truth. and while they might not have concrete evidence nor be able to say that they actually KNOW what they believe in, in the end that doesnt really matter anyways.
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lack of knowledge= ignorance.
it would be accurate to say that everyone is ignorant to the cause and purpouse of existence.
however there is one possible logical explanation, and its very easy for most people to make the leap of faith and accept it as truth. and while they might not have concrete evidence nor be able to say that they actually KNOW what they believe in, in the end that doesnt really matter anyways.
why would they accept it as the truth when its not proven? wouldnt that be ignorant?
accept it as their Belief on the other hand is fine
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why would they accept it as the truth when its not proven? wouldnt that be ignorant?
ignorance is lack of knowledge. believing in something you dont have full proof of is a hasty generalization.
why would they believe in it? because everything point towards it.
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ignorance is lack of knowledge. believing in something you dont have full proof of is a hasty generalization.
why would they believe in it? because everything point towards it.
How? because of the bible? The same book claimed earth are in the center of the universe?
nothing points at it. its a "better then nothing I guess" approach which I mentioned is Ok I guess, but dont claim you Know. claim that you Believe
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maybe tbombz is just ahead of us?
swede has deep piercing insights and understandings, however, maybe with them one day we reach same conclusion tbombz have?
to feel yourself become less stubborn, more accepting of limitations in understandings, reality become a little bleaker and fragile, life tend to soften us up a bit you know,
maybe it's then becomes a question of what one want's to believe, and wish for to be true?
I wonder if we will die atheists Swede?
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maybe tbombz is just ahead of us?
swede has deep piercing insights and understandings, however, maybe with them one day we reach same conclusion tbombz have?
to feel yourself become less stubborn, more accepting of limitations in understandings, reality become a little bleaker and fragile, life tend to soften us up a bit you know,
maybe it's then becomes a question of what one want's to believe, and wish for to be true?
I wonder if we will die atheists Swede?
I dont think "god" is a person and I odnt know why we call it "god" anyway. But lets say we do, I think "god " is something that we're all connected to. Kinda like the tree in avatar ;D , the life tree. Something like that is what I Believe.
we just dont know it yet. And the current "religion" is rpeventing uf from understanding that we're All connected and should be nice to each other.
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How? because of the bible? The same book claimed earth are in the center of the universe?
nothing points at it. its a "better then nothing I guess" approach
lol!
i dont believe in "the bible"
its a collection of stories passed down upon generation.. anceitn man doing his best to explain the world for his children, their children, and so on.
everything about existence points to God.
the very copncept of solid material is completely illogical untill you put god into the equation.
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I dont think "god" is a person and I odnt know why we call it "god" anyway. But lets say we do, I think "god " is something that we're all connected to. Kinda like the tree in avatar ;D , the life tree. Something like that is what I Believe.
we just dont know it yet. And the current "religion" is rpeventing uf from understanding that we're All connected and should be nice to each other.
and now we have a believer on our hands. :D
good for you.
you should have said so from the beginning. ;)
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people that have had mushrooms trips (only spores that could survive vacuum (I think(?)) and might have been "brought" to our planet from a comet faar faar away) usually say that they felt like everything was connected.
Might try shrooms sometime, for a meditation purpose. The key to true "enlightenment" might be from what the earth has to offer. Something that grows naturally.
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people that have had mushrooms trips (only spores that could survive vacuum (I think(?)) and might have been "brought" to our planet from a comet faar faar away) usually say that they felt like everything was connected.
Might try shrooms sometime, for a meditation purpose
duuuuuuddddeeee
do it
atheist my whole life untill i did shrooms
:)
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duuuuuuddddeeee
do it
atheist my whole life untill i did shrooms
:)
atheist my whole life untill I tried cannabis ;D
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atheist my whole life untill I tried cannabis ;D
;D
good philosophy helps too
look into rene descartes (meditations), george berkeley(dialogues), and gottfried leibnez (monadology).
descartes invented the cartesian plane (coordinate geometry) and is responsible for "i think therefore i am". his 'meditations. provided the groundwork for modern science.
bishop george berkeley, uc berkeley named after him, is the origin of the idea that matter itself doesnt even exist. how modern physicist talk about the theoretical possibility of walking through walls. stems from him.
leibnez knew about atoms and quantum mechanics back in the 17th century, long before any real science had been done on the subject.
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And if someone says Nothing happends when you die. It only gets dark. like when you sleep (if you dont dream) or put under anesthesia. I wouldn't argue. That Might be what happends. I dont know.
Everything might just be a projections of our own imagination in another dimension, I dont know that either ;D
what I do know is that I will probaly try shrooms sometime. I want legit shit that I know have been grown with care though. And I dont know people that could provide shit like that.
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When you said everything can be explained, and I even asked if you where sure..well, sorry Tboms,I'm going to have to say thats a contradicton on your part.....only 2 ways you can go right according to you
1. You go backwards forever, infinite, not possible for an explanation period, no matter what
2. God....God cannot be explained either period, no matter what
I certainly agree with your assessment, but cannot agree that everything has an explanation, however stupid this may sound, but somewhere down the line is something that can not be reached rationally, logically, definatively.
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people that have had mushrooms trips (only spores that could survive vacuum (I think(?)) and might have been "brought" to our planet from a comet faar faar away) usually say that they felt like everything was connected.
Might try shrooms sometime, for a meditation purpose. The key to true "enlightenment" might be from what the earth has to offer. Something that grows naturally.
yep very good stuff...you dont necessarily need to meditate just be in a nice relaxing comfortable place and have plenty of good music...
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How? because of the bible? The same book claimed earth are in the center of the universe?
nothing points at it. its a "better then nothing I guess" approach which I mentioned is Ok I guess, but dont claim you Know. claim that you Believe
Cmon now, don't scoop to that level, the Bible does not claim to be the centre of the universe...What, a thousand years from now someone is going to look back at this time and say we believe the sun goes around the earth because we use the term "sunrise" ahh no, figurative writting obviously
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12 friggen thousand years old - it doubles the existence of human civilization.They haven't found a single stone cutting tool or any other tools found.
Created 11 - 12 thousand years old and at a later stage tightly packed and covered by earth for unknown reason.
http://www.wimp.com/unexplainedstructure/
jeebus told me this was built by the dinosaurs four thousand years ago