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Looked awesome
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Team nasser hiding in the bathroom:
fap,fap,fap,fap,fap,fap, Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
New record, 13 seconds! Yewayah yeweyha lilililililililili
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Suplement selling filts!.... :D
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How he dwarfed the two guys ;D
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Team nasser hiding in the bathroom:
fap,fap,fap,fap,fap,fap, Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
New record, 13 seconds! Yewayah yeweyha lilililililililili
Don't fight it brah. With his good looks and massive cock even the straightest guys can't help but fap away.
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No back shots ?
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No need for back shots, that would make the schmoes go soft
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gh15 looking only 20lb less than his biggest....
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No need for back shots, that would make the schmoes go soft
team nasser acquired all the back shots negatives, held at a secret location
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Calves! :o
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Arms
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He looks like shit.
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Looks to be about 95
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Inspiring countless arab bbers worldwide with his serbian genetics and german work ethic
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Looks to be about 95
yes sure but i think not the olympia,.. may be hutson!!..
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Inspiring countless arab bbers worldwide with his serbian great arab genetics and german work ethic
fixed for truth :D
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Tier 1. 'nuff said!
$5000+ club (tier 1)
Coleman, Cutler, Doz, Nasser, Fux, Bautista, Warren, etc.
$3000- $4000 club (tier 2)
Atwood, D. Ball, K. Green, M. Kjellstrom, Z. Khan, Kovacs, J. Long, V. Martinez, Ruhl, Scholz,
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Looks to be about 95
i dont think he looks that old, maybe 65 or 70 tops. i saw him guest posing around 95 or so in jeresy and he was unreal, he wasnt that tight when i seen him though cause it was only april or may
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Tier 1. 'nuff said!
WTF?? Cutler and ronnie tier 1?? Lol
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shouldn't this be on ripped.com?
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Nasser was a beast.
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damn, so bold
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Thick dude back in the day.
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Thick dude back in the day.
Gay post reported.
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Nasser appears almost big enough and strong enough. . . to carry all of Dorian's Sandows- how nice.
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More oil than Saudi Arabia!
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back shot?
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That's a very unimpressive shot, his back ruins it. ::)
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nasser the wizard
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shouldn't this be on spam?
haha ... that was fast... impressive... most impressive....
...the censorship is strong in this one..!
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Gay post reported.
Your not suppose to be looking there. ;)
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nasser was the most impressive bbr by far in his time from the front.. he was nearly perfect from the front at his best,.. not only he didn't have a single weakpoint but also every single muscle on him was the best or among the best in his time.. best shoulders in his time, best chest, best quads, best calves after dorian's, some of the best arms, abs, traps!!!.. it's very rare in the history of bb to see in one shot/one guy all his parts some of the best ever!!..
other top guys in his time had few great parts then the rest of them was average,.. levrone for example, from the front, great shoulders, traps and arms but then the rest of him was average or even weak in some parts like calves.. dorian himself from the front, great lats and lower body.. but the rest of his upper body was not among the best in his time (from the front)..
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nasser was the most impressive bbr by far in his time from the front.. he was nearly perfect from the front at his best,.. not only he didn't have a single weakpoint but also every single muscle on him was the best or among the best in his time.. best shoulders in his time, best chest, best quads, best calves after dorian's, some of the best arms, abs, traps!!!.. it's very rare in the history of bb to see in one shot/one guy all his parts some of the best ever!!..
other top guys in his time had few great parts then the rest of them was average,.. levrone for example, from the front, great shoulders, traps and arms but then the rest of him was average or even weak in some parts like calves.. dorian himself from the front, great lats and lower body.. but the rest of his upper body was not among the best in his time (from the front)..
so true Sherief , so true
and all the crap talk about "no back", Nasser had a great back- very thick and wide , just not as dry and detailed as Yates and Coleman- 2 of the best in history
that is a great pic of Nasser- huge, symmetrical and RIPPED to shreds!
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Nasser appears almost big enough and strong enough. . . to carry all of Dorian's Sandows- how nice.
Surely the weight of those combined sandows would put strain on nassers weak back?
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Here are a couple from my gym walls.
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so true Sherief , so true
and all the crap talk about "no back", Nasser had a great back- very thick and wide , just not as dry and detailed as Yates and Coleman- 2 of the best in history
that is a great pic of Nasser- huge, symmetrical and RIPPED to shreds!
yes bro.,.. imo this show (hutson 95) is his best shape ever.. at 268 pounds he was much better than his shape of olympia 97 at the exact same weight..
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Here are a couple from my gym walls.
great shots thank you..
could you plz ask the gym owner to take them for one day or so to scan them for a better quality??..
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nasser was the most impressive bbr by far in his time from the front.. he was nearly perfect from the front at his best,.. not only he didn't have a single weakpoint but also every single muscle on him was the best or among the best in his time.. best shoulders in his time, best chest, best quads, best calves after dorian's, some of the best arms, abs, traps!!!.. it's very rare in the history of bb to see in one shot/one guy all his parts some of the best ever!!..
other top guys in his time had few great parts then the rest of them was average,.. levrone for example, from the front, great shoulders, traps and arms but then the rest of him was average or even weak in some parts like calves.. dorian himself from the front, great lats and lower body.. but the rest of his upper body was not among the best in his time (from the front)..
Most impressive from the front? nearly perfect from the front? not a single weak point? ::) ::) ::)
Levrone and Ronnie making him look like a block of clay
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Great shot looks from the Huston show in 1995, Massive Thick Conditioned Power-lifter type Quads, huge all round.
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so true Sherief , so true
and all the crap talk about "no back", Nasser had a great back- very thick and wide , just not as dry and detailed as Yates and Coleman- 2 of the best in history
that is a great pic of Nasser- huge, symmetrical and RIPPED to shreds!
The Wizard of spin ::) his back was NOT ' great ' under any context of the word , he knew it was a glaring weak point only his fans ignore this and in fact claim it wasn't weak but some how ' great ' ::)
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I was thinking about this movie the other week. I remember this from being about 6! Classic
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to think that I pm this legend on a regular basis...and he likes me :D
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Most impressive from the front? nearly perfect from the front? not a single weak point? ::) ::) ::)
Levrone and Ronnie making him look like a block of clay
the judges (your masters) had another opinion because they put nasser over both of them in this contest :-X.. and sure you see both of them had better backs than nasser so how come he beat them if they were better too from the front ::)..
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the judges (your masters) had another opinion because they put nasser over both of them in this contest :-X.. and sure you see both of them had better backs than nasser so how come he beat them if they were better too from the front ::)..
That has nothing to do with what you typed , you typed he was better than Dorian from the front too and he always placed above Nasser ;) 8)
Nasser is Most impressive from the front? nearly perfect from the front? not a single weak point? ::) ::) ::)
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nasser was very good from the front
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great shots thank you..
could you plz ask the gym owner to take them for one day or so to scan them for a better quality??..
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Pay attention! He is the gym owner.
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how's his website doing?
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nasser was very good from the front
his back ruined his front
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his back ruined his front
His back ruined his back even chicks kick his ass from behind ;)
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That has nothing to do with what you typed , you typed he was better than Dorian from the front too and he always placed above Nasser ;) 8)
Nasser is Most impressive from the front? nearly perfect from the front? not a single weak point? ::) ::) ::)
i said clearly that nasser was the most impressive from the front in his time and this is very true.. dorian at his best deserved to beat nasser because of his unbeatable back only.. imagine dorian with levrone's back,.. would he have won any sandow??.. on the other hand imagine nasser with levrone's back!!!.. i hope i have simplified things well for you to understand..
but you were not too smart to say kevin and ronnie destroying nasser from the front and to support your claim you put shots from a contest where both of them came after him ::).. so according to you why nasser beat ronnie on that day??.. because he had a better back!!!!!.. :-X
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i said clearly that nasser was the most impressive from the front in his time and this is very true.. dorian at his best deserved to beat nasser because of his unbeatable back only.. imagine dorian with levrone's back,.. would he have won any sandow??.. on the other hand imagine nasser with levrone's back!!!.. i hope i have simplified things well for you to understand..
but you were not too smart to say kevin and ronnie destroying nasser from the front and to support your claim you put shots from a contest where both of them came after him ::).. so according to you why nasser beat ronnie on that day??.. because he had a better back!!!!!.. :-X
This is what you typed Nasser is Most impressive from the front? nearly perfect from the front? not a single weak point?
And typical Sherierf piss-poor reading comprehension , please show me where I ever said ' kevin and ronnie destroying nasser from the front ' please show me where I typed that
I said they make him look like a block of clay and even if I did say they were destroying him from the front , Nasser could have easily lost the front poses and still won the contest so that plea of how that somehow backfired on me because he won the contest doesn't prove anything , so either way you're fucked
Nasser may be the most impressive from the front to you , nearly perfect from the front? NO WAY and not a single weak point? HA ::) lets ignore his long torso , high lats , short legs and his lagging forearms but other than that he's ' perfect ' ::)
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Is this going to be another Nasser thread that goes on for two years and 400 pages????
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I think Dorian won more shows than Nasser. That's what I think.
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I think Dorian won more shows than Nasser. That's what I think.
Nasser lost many more shows than Dorian ever did so HA take that
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imagine dorian with levrone's back,.. would he have won any sandow??..
I don't think he would. They'd never give the Olympia to a white guy with a black back.
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Here are a couple from my gym walls.
GREAT pics TD
great pics
and thanks for posting them!
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Pay attention! He is the gym owner.
Haha, ;D
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Shawn Ray on Nasser ;D
Flex: What about Nasser?
Shawn: I don't think Nasser should have ever been one of the top three bodybuilders in the world, ever. He didn't deserve to be there.
Flex: Look out! Here he goes, boys and girls!
Shawn: Let's be real. Nasser El Sonbaty, at his all-time best in 1996, was third place behind me. He failed the diuretic test and was stripped of his placing and prize money. However, when Nasser turned around, he went from third to thirteenth. There is absolutely no way a bodybuilder with an okay front and an okay back should have been beaten by Nasser, who had a great front and a horrible back. It's the same thing that kept Paul Dillett from placing higher in the Mr. Olympia. I believe they over-rewarded Nasser when he was at his all-time best for a magnificent front in several poses. But from the back, Nasser will never be remembered as a top-10 bodybuilder. Never! Bodybuilding is about the entire physique. When you get to the Olympia, it's not what you have, it's what you don't have. And if you're missing an entire back, there's no way you can be one of the top 10 bodybuilders in the world.
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Here are a couple from my gym walls.
Those are from the 1997 Arnold Classic. Here is a few more.
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Nasser may be the most impressive from the front to you , nearly perfect from the front? NO WAY and not a single weak point? HA ::) lets ignore his long torso , high lats , short legs and his lagging forearms but other than that he's ' perfect ' ::)
this is why i didnt say "perfect" and said "nearly perfect" :-X
ND when you are proved wrong you turned to be an asshole and you know this well.. according to you kevin and ronnie beat nasser from the front at that show and sure you see them better from the back but still you can understand why he beat them both ::)
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Shawn Ray on Nasser ;D
Flex: What about Nasser?
Shawn: I don't think Nasser should have ever been one of the top three bodybuilders in the world, ever. He didn't deserve to be there.
Flex: Look out! Here he goes, boys and girls!
Shawn: Let's be real. Nasser El Sonbaty, at his all-time best in 1996, was third place behind me. He failed the diuretic test and was stripped of his placing and prize money. However, when Nasser turned around, he went from third to thirteenth. There is absolutely no way a bodybuilder with an okay front and an okay back should have been beaten by Nasser, who had a great front and a horrible back. It's the same thing that kept Paul Dillett from placing higher in the Mr. Olympia. I believe they over-rewarded Nasser when he was at his all-time best for a magnificent front in several poses. But from the back, Nasser will never be remembered as a top-10 bodybuilder. Never! Bodybuilding is about the entire physique. When you get to the Olympia, it's not what you have, it's what you don't have. And if you're missing an entire back, there's no way you can be one of the top 10 bodybuilders in the world.
so can you post what ray said about dorian's horrible front and good back in 97?!.. ::)
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George Costanza never looked better.
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Those are from the 1997 Arnold Classic. Here is a few more.
one of his best shapes ever!!..
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here's one that most probably haven't seen. I scanned it from a 1999 issue of Muscle & Fitness
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here's one that most probably haven't seen. I scanned it from a 1999 issue of Muscle & Fitness
his back ruins it. terrible FDB.
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here's one that most probably haven't seen. I scanned it from a 1999 issue of Muscle & Fitness
could you plz scan the smaller pics on the right side??..
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his back ruins it. terrible FDB.
he was 289 lbs at this show!!!..
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could you plz scan the smaller pics on the right side??..
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many thx neo..
plz now send the magazine via mail to ND as his scanner produces better quality ;D
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Suplement selling filts!.... :D
;D ;D
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Shawn Ray on Nasser ;D
Flex: What about Nasser?
Shawn: I don't think Nasser should have ever been one of the top three bodybuilders in the world, ever. He didn't deserve to be there.
Flex: Look out! Here he goes, boys and girls!
Shawn: Let's be real. Nasser El Sonbaty, at his all-time best in 1996, was third place behind me. He failed the diuretic test and was stripped of his placing and prize money. However, when Nasser turned around, he went from third to thirteenth. There is absolutely no way a bodybuilder with an okay front and an okay back should have been beaten by Nasser, who had a great front and a horrible back. It's the same thing that kept Paul Dillett from placing higher in the Mr. Olympia. I believe they over-rewarded Nasser when he was at his all-time best for a magnificent front in several poses. But from the back, Nasser will never be remembered as a top-10 bodybuilder. Never! Bodybuilding is about the entire physique. When you get to the Olympia, it's not what you have, it's what you don't have. And if you're missing an entire back, there's no way you can be one of the top 10 bodybuilders in the world.
Then again, Nasser never fucked dudes either.
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In the above 99 m&f scans his biceps have a cluteresque look, they did not have in 97.
More oil, less muscle, trying to keep up with the jones
Early 90s nasser was the best nasser
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Inspiring countless arab bbers worldwide with his serbian genetics and german work ethic
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You need to learn how to scan
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You need to learn how to scan
and you need to judge bb with dorian's dick outside your mouth :-X
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so can you post what ray said about dorian's horrible front and good back in 97?!.. ::)
Yeah cuase that's never been posted ::)
What he saying rings true like I always said two complete different bodybuilders from he front and back
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and you need to judge bb with dorian's dick outside your mouth :-X
Hahahahahahaha says the guy who thinks Nasser is ' near perfect ' from the front and the best from the front of his time
remove your head from Nasser's ass and come up for air
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Yeah cuase that's never been posted ::)
What he saying rings true like I always said two complete different bodybuilders from he front and back
same can be said about dorian in 97 but your hatred to nasser and "love" to dorian both prevent you from seeing this..
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Hahahahahahaha says the guy who thinks Nasser is ' near perfect ' from the front and the best from the front of his time
remove your head from Nasser's ass and come up for air
front poses are FDB, FLS, A/T, MM-1, and, MM-2 = 5 poses..
nasser was the best in his time in 4 of these poses.. nice try mr. parrot..
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this is why i didnt say "perfect" and said "nearly perfect" :-X
ND when you are proved wrong you turned to be an asshole and you know this well.. according to you kevin and ronnie beat nasser from the front at that show and sure you see them better from the back but still you can understand why he beat them both ::)
I typed what you said exactly ' nearly perfect ' I never said ' perfect ' you also said he didn't have a single weak point and you are flat out wrong there as well
You didn't prove anyone wrong and again where did I EVER type kevin and ronnie beat nasser from the front? WHERE? ;) I said they are making him look like a block of clay
Same logic can be said for Dorian 1997 Olympia just because he beat Nasser at this contest somehow according to your logic he was better than him from the front? ::)
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same can be said about dorian in 97 but your hatred to nasser and "love" to dorian both prevent you from seeing this..
Actually no Dorian lost the front double biceps and standing relaxed from the front in 1997 to Nasser still won the front latspread and the ab-thigh is close that pose could go either way , Nasser won ZERO back poses NONE at all
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front poses are FDB, FLS, A/T, MM-1, and, MM-2 = 5 poses..
nasser was the best in his time in 4 of these poses.. nice try mr. parrot..
The best in his time according to who? you? and Team Delusional? his time is Ronnie's time and Dorian's time you think Nasser touches Ronnie in any most muscular? or Dorian in the ab-thigh? or Ronnie or Flex in the front double biceps? Dorian at his best kills Nasser in a front double biceps pre-tear
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Then again, Nasser never fucked dudes either.
Much to Team Nasser's dismay :-X
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Ah, these Nasser threads are timeless, unlike the man himself.
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The Wizard is dwarfing those two tits.
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You need to learn how to scan
You are the scanmaster, not everyone possesses your skills!
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Shawn Ray on Nasser ;D
Flex: What about Nasser?
Shawn: I don't think Nasser should have ever been one of the top three bodybuilders in the world, ever. He didn't deserve to be there.
Flex: Look out! Here he goes, boys and girls!
Shawn: Let's be real. Nasser El Sonbaty, at his all-time best in 1996, was third place behind me. He failed the diuretic test and was stripped of his placing and prize money. However, when Nasser turned around, he went from third to thirteenth. There is absolutely no way a bodybuilder with an okay front and an okay back should have been beaten by Nasser, who had a great front and a horrible back. It's the same thing that kept Paul Dillett from placing higher in the Mr. Olympia. I believe they over-rewarded Nasser when he was at his all-time best for a magnificent front in several poses. But from the back, Nasser will never be remembered as a top-10 bodybuilder. Never! Bodybuilding is about the entire physique. When you get to the Olympia, it's not what you have, it's what you don't have. And if you're missing an entire back, there's no way you can be one of the top 10 bodybuilders in the world.
Ouch
Shawn not pulling any punches
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You are the scanmaster, not everyone possesses your skills!
It's not rocket science ;D
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The best in his time according to who? you? and Team Delusional? his time is Ronnie's time and Dorian's time you think Nasser touches Ronnie in any most muscular? or Dorian in the ab-thigh? or Ronnie or Flex in the front double biceps? Dorian at his best kills Nasser in a front double biceps pre-tear
::) and note here ronnie was at his all time best,.. wheeler was on,.. nasser wasn't close to his best..
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::) and note here ronnie was at his all time best,.. wheeler was on,.. nasser wasn't close to his best..
Where did Nasser place in this contest? 8)
Wheeler was off but still better and shitty ass pics . do I have to give you guys all the good pics?
Nasser in the front double biceps pose , high lats , long torso , short legs , lagging forearms , still a good pose for him but far from ' near perfect ' and
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Same flaws , although a good shot for him
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Where did Nasser place in this contest? 8)
Wheeler was off but still better and shitty ass pics . do I have to give you guys all the good pics?
Nasser in the front double biceps pose , high lats , long torso , short legs , lagging forearms , still a good pose for him but far from ' near perfect ' and
you said that both these guys beat him in the FDB,.. can you explain how do you see this??.. i agree nasser has short legs but the other 2 have more weak points in this pose,.. in this pose ronnie's legs are long, his abs are weird, no calves, and, his gyno can be seen.. flex,.. no calves, narrow torso, narrow lats, flat chest!!!..
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here nasser and flex were close to their best.. :-X
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you said that both these guys beat him in the FDB,.. can you explain how do you see this??.. i agree nasser has short legs but the other 2 have more weak points in this pose,.. in this pose ronnie's legs are long, his abs are weird, no calves, and, his gyno can be seen.. flex,.. no calves, narrow torso, narrow lats, flat chest!!!..
I agree only with the gyno as far as the others having more weak points in this pose I disagree I think you're really searching for flaws , Ronnie's only real flaw ( besides the gyno ) is his lower leg imbalance when directly compared to Nasser , he's harder , drier , appears just as big despite being much lighter , he has a better taper to boot , the same can be said about Flex who I think looks even better in this pose than Ronnie did from top-to-bottom
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here nasser and flex were close to their best.. :-X
Another contest Nasser lost and Flex is destroying Nasser in this shot , Nasser always held his arms to high poor fella couldn't even pose :-\ long torso , short legs , high lats , etc
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many thx neo..
plz now send the magazine via mail to ND as his scanner produces better quality
I agree he has a better scanner, but I don't think it would have made much difference. Those pics I posted are blown up. The actual size is like 3 inches by 2 inches. Then you would be complaining they are too small to see any detail
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You need to learn how to scan
see my last post. For someone who prides himself on being "so smart," I'm surprised (or not) you couldn't figure out they were blown up after the first Nasser pic I posted. You can clearly see the same images on the side are much smaller
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one of his best shapes ever!!..
I have his routine from this contest. I'll post the pics when I have time.
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I resized the pic to be true to the actual source. Is that better?
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I agree he has a better scanner, but I don't think it would have made much difference. Those pics I posted are blown up. The actual size is like 3 inches by 2 inches. Then you would be complaining they are too small to see any detail
i was kiddong bro. thx for your time 8)
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I have his routine from this contest. I'll post the pics when I have time.
thx bro. you are the best source of bb DVD shots on the net..
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I resized the pic to be true to the actual source. Is that better?
Its getbig... You know the story
Too small, too big, not clear, too clear
Its like you took the fucking picture! ;D
But I defer to ND in threads where pics are posted.
And if it concerns nasser, there's a gentleman in egypt with a disturbingly large collection of quality and angles second to none... I think he has nasser baby pics too.
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here nasser and flex were close to their best.. :-X
Yup...and Flex is making him look like a block of human shit
Nasser was not as great as you ball-lickers think he was, for the trillionth time.
Like ND just pointed out....his FDB is not this all time great pose the you have been insisting it is for 5 years now.
short stubby legs, high lats...LOOOOOONG torso and zero forearms. Throw in the ridiculously obvious synthol later in his career and you know why he was never really considered a top threat for the olympia. he had his moments a couple of times, but was tier 2. he lacked the sophistication and detail that the truly great bodybuilders have. and his back was laughable, it looked like he didn't even train his back and just relied on the gear and synthol
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Yup...and Flex is making him look like a block of human shit
Nasser was not as great as you ball-lickers think he was, for the trillionth time.
Like ND just pointed out....his FDB is not this all time great pose the you have been insisting it is for 5 years now.
short stubby legs, high lats...LOOOOOONG torso and zero forearms. Throw in the ridiculously obvious synthol later in his career and you know why he was never really considered a top threat for the olympia. he had his moments a couple of times, but was tier 2. he lacked the sophistication and detail that the truly great bodybuilders have. and his back was laughable, it looked like he didn't even train his back and just relied on the gear and synthol
calm down cable guy.. so according to you why nasser beat great bbs MANY TIMES like levrone, ray, dillett, coleman in the 90s??.. most of them had better backs than his but still he was able to beat them numerous times.. doesnt this say that at his best he was better than them in most of the front poses??..
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nasser's FDB was clearly the best in his time and one of the best in the history.. even flex magazine (ND's bible) mentioned that nasser had set a new STD for this pose!!..
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calm down cable guy.. so according to you why nasser beat great bbs MANY TIMES like levrone, ray, dillett, coleman in the 90s??.. most of them had better backs than his but still he was able to beat them numerous times.. doesnt this say that at his best he was better than them in most of the front poses??..
LOL....except for Dillet (who was still better) they beat him A LOT more than he beat them. he only beat them when they were off, and his ONLY major show victory was a gift because Flex Wheeler didn't compete. Or Nasser would have ZERO major titles. his Arnold Classic win was against a weakened field. TIER 2 ;)
and Dillet OWNS him in that pic. :D perfect X frame and his legs don't look like a midget's legs. LOLOLOL Nasser has MIDGET LEGS...hahaahaahaahaaaha haaa
Nasser "MIDGET LEGS" el Syntholbaty, the bald, backless Serbian
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Nasser struggled with labrada, ray, flex in 90s.
IMO they all had better FDBs too
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Nasser struggled with labrada, ray, flex in 90s.
IMO they all had better FDBs too
Yup.
apparently the contests where they beat Nasser, and that happened a lot more often, doesn't "count" to Sharief.
he cherry picks photos where nasser looks better, and refernces the few contests that nasser placed ahead of the elite guys, and bases his argument on that. LOLOL
Hey chubby. how about all of the times he LOST, which was a lot more than he won ? was his FDB "perfect" then ? ::)
pay close attention to this pic...see shawn in the background making nasser look like shit ? ;)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=418645.0;attach=472081;image)
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Nasser struggled with labrada, ray, flex in 90s.
IMO they all had better FDBs too
IMO non of them was close to this level!!..
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Nasser struggled with labrada, ray, flex in 90s.
IMO they all had better FDBs too
post a single FDB comparison between ray and nasser where ray is better!!..
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Yup.
apparently the contests where they beat Nasser, and that happened a lot more often, doesn't "count" to Sharief.
he cherry picks photos where nasser looks better, and refernces the few contests that nasser placed ahead of the elite guys, and bases his argument on that. LOLOL
Hey chubby. how about all of the times he LOST, which was a lot more than he won ? was his FDB "perfect" then ? ::)
pay close attention to this pic...see shawn in the background making nasser look like shit ? ;)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=418645.0;attach=472081;image)
you mean ray in this shot looks like nasser black son!!.. not only in size but also in shape nasser was clearly better than him..
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Watch your speed, Sherief. There's a wall looming.
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i remember flex magazine in their report about mr. olympia 95 said that dorian had a better FDB than ray and levrone even with his torn bi but beside nasser it was a different story as nasser took this pose from him clearly..
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post a single FDB comparison between ray and nasser where ray is better!!..
he's better in that pic you just posted, but he's in the background.
Nasser was an incomplete BBer, and I'm not just talking "from the back" he had one of the qualities that make a BBer great...SIZE. he was huge and muscular. but he lacked the proportions, detail and separation of the truly great BBers, and...sorry to say, his synthol use was obvious and he got marked down for it. whereas other guys used synthol too but it didn't look as bad as Nasser's.
also, not making a joke....his head was too big, it make him look narrower than he was. when if he had a normal sized head he would have looked ridiculously wide.
I remember at the 98 O when Nasser first came out and hit his FDB the crowd was like "holy crap" but once he hit his side and back poses they started saying "nope, still sucks from the back, he won't win" and that's the truth. i was sitting right next to Vince Taylor and he said "wow, he really falls off when he turns around, his back is just so soft" true story. and we both started laughing at Nasser.
Paul Dillet had a peanut head and he looked inhumanly wide because of it
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you mean ray in this shot looks like nasser black son!!.. not only in size but also in shape nasser was clearly better than him..
Ummmm, he's like 10 feet behind everyone else genius. Flex Pwns him there too, as does Dillet. only Levrone loses the pose here.
Nasser has better shape than Shawn Ray...now i have heard everything ::)
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Shawn Ray DESTROYING Nasser in that shot.
perfection, and holding a vacuum. Nasser would give himself a hernia if he tried a vacuum with his gut
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he's better in that pic you just posted, but he's in the background.
Nasser was an incomplete BBer, and I'm not just talking "from the back" he had one of the qualities that make a BBer great...SIZE. he was huge and muscular. but he lacked the proportions, detail and separation of the truly great BBers, and...sorry to say, his synthol use was obvious and he got marked down for it. whereas other guys used synthol too but it didn't look as bad as Nasser's.
also, not making a joke....his head was too big, it make him look narrower than he was. when if he had a normal sized head he would have looked ridiculously wide.
I remember at the 98 O when Nasser first came out and hit his FDB the crowd was like "holy crap" but once he hit his side and back poses they started saying "nope, still sucks from the back, he won't win" and that's the truth. i was sitting right next to Vince Taylor and he said "wow, he really falls off when he turns around, his back is just so soft" true story. and we both started laughing at Nasser.
Paul Dillet had a peanut head and he looked inhumanly wide because of it
if nasser was just size,.. how do you think he was beating other mass monsters who were the same size or even bigger like dillett, markus, and, fux??..
and you just said that the audience when seeing his FDB were impressed and on saw him not the winner when he turned to the back which means he was clearly better than the others from the front..
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Shawn Ray DESTROYING Nasser in that shot.
perfection, and holding a vacuum. Nasser would give himself a hernia if he tried a vacuum with his gut
at 285 pounds nasser had no gut and beat ray and everyone else on stage in the FDB on that day..
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to sum up things in this thread:
ND says shit about nasser because he hates arabs/muslims..
gronk says shit about nasser because nasser refused to meet him with a23..
nasser > than all the bbrs of his time from the front..
sev > gronk..
thx..
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if nasser was just size,.. how do you think he was beating other mass monsters who were the same size or even bigger like dillett, markus, and, fux??..
and you just said that the audience when seeing his FDB were impressed and on saw him not the winner when he turned to the back which means he was clearly better than the others from the front..
Dillet ,markus and Fux were not Dorian, Ronnie and Flex ;) you just prove my point, LOL..he could beat tier 2 guys with his size, but not the elite.
and I didn't say he was the only person who was impressive, when Ronnie came out the place went nuts for EVERY pose he hit..he looked amazing from any angle. Not just two poses like nasser. Same with Flex. he was a little watery but he looked great. you hvae never seen these guys up close on stage Sharief, it's completely different than pictures in magazines.
When i say Nasser lacked the quality and refinement that the top guys had, it's based on being in the third row at a Mr Olympia contest and seeing them ALL in an actual competition. he looked softer and far less detailed,it's the classic trade-off....size vs. conditioning. and from the back...ugh, pictures don't do justice to how poor his back really was,
especially when you have Ronnie Coleman hitting the same shot next to you, and his back is literally exploding in fibers of muscle, meanwhile you can see nasser's head vibrating and it's beet red because he's flexing as hard as he can, trying to flex muscle that isn't there. he was two different bodybuilders from front to back
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to sum up things in this thread:
ND says shit about nasser because he hates arabs/muslims..
gronk says shit about nasser because nasser refused to meet him with a23..
nasser > than all the bbrs of his time from the front..
sev > gronk..
thx..
As usual you're wrong , why? one of my all time favorite bodybuilders is Samir Bannout an Arab ;) and what exactly is so hateful about saying Nasser had a long torso , short legs , high lats and lagging forearms? ???
You're getting frustrated because Nasser doesn't live up to the hype you guys created for him and even pros he was overrated 8)
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Shawn Ray, and Flex Wheeler (pre-oil) were in the top 5 physiques of all time imo.
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to sum up things in this thread:
ND says shit about nasser because he hates arabs/muslims..
gronk says shit about nasser because nasser refused to meet him with a23..
nasser > than all the bbrs of his time from the front..
sev > gronk..
thx..
as usual Shareef the fat gets mad and starts with the personal insults, LOLOLOL. ;D
It's just FUNNY to me that you get SO MAD because we don't agree with you , I'm sorry...but we aren't in love with Nasser like you and can look at him objectively. he was not as great as you think, from the front, side..upside down..whatever
You never disappoint. :D
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as usual Shareef the fat gets mad and starts with the personal insults, LOLOLOL. ;D
It's just FUNNY to me that you get SO MAD because we don't agree with you , I'm sorry...but we aren't in love with Nasser like you and can look at him objectively. he was not as great as you think, from the front, side..upside down..whatever
You never disappoint. :D
lol at calling "frank zane" of GB fat.. i am now 77 kg with good abs.. still 2 more kilos to lose :P
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lol at calling "frank zane" of GB fat.. i am now 77 kg with good abs.. still 2 more kilos to lose :P
prove it. ;)
but good for you if you lost the weight
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see my last post. For someone who prides himself on being "so smart," I'm surprised (or not) you couldn't figure out they were blown up after the first Nasser pic I posted. You can clearly see the same images on the side are much smaller
One how do I pride myself on being so smart? just more knowledgeable when it comes to how contests are judged Two I knew the instant you posted the pic that it was too big and it needed to be re-sized
You're to sensitive Neo settle down it's not rocket science ;D I'm glad more people are scanning pics we all benefit , keep em coming
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man, you guys are obsessed with Nasser, lol... You'd think this site was run by him for after career publicity or something, lol...
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::) @ nasser having a better most muscular than Ronnie ::)
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man, you guys are obsessed with Nasser, lol... You'd think this site was run by him for after career publicity or something, lol...
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Ouch that painful reminder :-X
It's war baby
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prove it. ;)
but good for you if you lost the weight
i will ;)
i will prove you were wrong when you said my waist has become wide because i am old now ::)
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::) @ nasser having a better most muscular than Ronnie ::)
yes he had a better (more compete) mm than ronnie especially in the other version of the pose where you can see ronnie's gyno. bad abs, and, no calves..
funny you are posting a pic. from mr. olympia 99, one of ronnie's best shows and nasser was less than 50% of his best!!..
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yes he had a better (more compete) mm than ronnie especially in the other version of the pose where you can see ronnie's gyno. bad abs, and, no calves..
funny you are posting a pic. from mr. olympia 99, one of ronnie's best shows and nasser was less than 50% of his best!!..
Less than 50% master of the overstatement ::)
This is the ONLY pose from the front that Nasser had one of the best of and he beat Ronnie and Flex at
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Nasser was very good at the front double biceps ( at his best ) very good at the most muscular , outstanding in the ab-thigh , very good at standing relaxed from the front , sucked from the sides and look like Shawn Ray said thirteenth from the back :-X
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i will ;)
i will prove you were wrong when you said my waist has become wide because i am old now ::)
your waist is wide, that's genetic. fat or not.
so post a pic and prove me wrong...lord knows you have no problem posting pics. So if you don't i will have to assume you are lying
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I actually wish Nasser were on the scene today...he would blow everyone away except for Jay and Phil...easily
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your waist is wide, that's genetic. fat or not.
so post a pic and prove me wrong...lord knows you have no problem posting pics. So if you don't i will have to assume you are lying
i will when i am below 75 kg (my target).. i have genetically small waist and bones doent become wider thank ALLAH :P
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1997 Arnold Classic
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1997 Arnold Classic
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The pose down was funny.
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The pose down was funny.
X2 ;D
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X2 ;D
Not for Nasser , he was totally disrespected by Flex , Flex let him know ' you're not in my league ' ' this is MY stage '
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Another pic I haven't seen posted before. 1999 Arnold Classic.
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Ouch , poor Nasser taking a drubbing :-\ his back looks like a sheet of glass
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Not for Nasser , he was totally disrespected by Flex , Flex let him know ' you're not in my league ' ' this is MY stage '
flex looked arrogant and wanted to separate himself from the others but he looked like an asshole and nasser with a good temper pushed him till at the end he made him look weak especially when both hit the mm :-X
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flex looked arrogant and wanted to separate himself from the others but he looked like an asshole and nasser with a good temper pushed him till at the end he made him look weak especially when both hit the mm :-X
It's not arrogance when you can back it up and Flex did because he won the show ;) and BTW Flex wins that shot
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It's not arrogance when you can back it up and Flex did because he won the show ;) and BTW Flex wins that shot
Flex destroyed Nasser in that show, he looked great.
Nasser looked like an idiot when flex was mocking him, he didn't get it, and stood like like an oaf..."look how big i am...ugh"
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Flex destroyed Nasser in that show, he looked great.
Nasser looked like an idiot when flex was mocking him, he didn't get it, and stood like like an oaf..."look how big i am...ugh"
Yeah I was embarrassed for Nasser :-\
guy got completely outclassed
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Yeah I was embarrassed for Nasser :-\
guy got completely outclassed
and that's a GOOD shot of Nasser's back....LOL
All kidding aside Nasser was a great BBer and deserves to be placed among the all time greats, the guy was huge and hard. i give him shit but he was one of the best ever. he's from the era of the best BBers of all time
just felt i had to say that
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and that's a GOOD shot of Nasser's back....LOL
All kidding aside Nasser was a great BBer and deserves to be placed among the all time greats, the guy was huge and hard. i give him shit but he was one of the best ever. he's from the era of the best BBers of all time
just felt i had to say that
Ok, you got your disclaimer in, back to bashing Nasser. ;D
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and that's a GOOD shot of Nasser's back....LOL
All kidding aside Nasser was a great BBer and deserves to be placed among the all time greats, the guy was huge and hard. i give him shit but he was one of the best ever. he's from the era of the best BBers of all time
just felt i had to say that
gronk > sev
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the funny thing is that some guys here see nasser's weak points very clearly and even exaggerate things and create additional nonexistent weak points for him but in the other hand they dont see or dont like to talk about other great bbrs weak points!!..
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IMO non of them was close to this level!!..
IMO,
Vince taylor looks better there...
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post a single FDB comparison between ray and nasser where ray is better!!..
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Less than 50% master of the overstatement ::)
This is the ONLY pose from the front that Nasser had one of the best of and he beat Ronnie and Flex at
but not yates
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Vince taylor looks better there...
imo,
if v. taylor heard this he would laugh :-X
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Its all about personal views and opinions with objectiveness
For example Nasser had very big well developed legs, but they did not look as balnced as yates' due to his long torso and short legs
You may disagree
Ray had a flawless double bi and side chest, both strong poses for nasser, IMO ray looked better. Taking into account ray overlapped generations, ray could do a vaccum, in nassers era that's an impossibility for the top guys. I'm not saying nasser should do a vaccum, I'm saying ray could go toe to toe with nasser, and ray competed against what, like 6 or 7 mr olympias in his career, ray was in a different class
You may disagree
Objectively, and I can say this objectively, because I feel both guys were top bbers in their own right, and not a fanatical fan of either, never, ever did nasser look better than flex. Its an impossibility. Its structural, genetic, and just impossible. Only thing he could get over on flex is conditioning, if flex was off.
You may disagree
Its all about perspective
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Its all about personal views and opinions with objectiveness
For example Nasser had very big well developed legs, but they did not look as balnced as yates' due to his long torso and short legs
You may disagree
Ray had a flawless double bi and side chest, both strong poses for nasser, IMO ray looked better. Taking into account ray overlapped generations, ray could do a vaccum, in nassers era that's an impossibility for the top guys. I'm not saying nasser should do a vaccum, I'm saying ray could go toe to toe with nasser, and ray competed against what, like 6 or 7 mr olympias in his career, ray was in a different class
You may disagree
Objectively, and I can say this objectively, because I feel both guys were top bbers in their own right, and not a fanatical fan of either, never, ever did nasser look better than flex. Its an impossibility. Its structural, genetic, and just impossible. Only thing he could get over on flex is conditioning, if flex was off.
You may disagree
Its all about perspective
Yip good Post, everything is in the eye of the Beholder, i think the actual one pose Nasser did look Exceptional in for a Massive Guy was the Ab and Thigh in THAT shot arguably one of the Best ever of anyone over 260lbs, However agreed his Front double Bicep while Massive and Conditioned imo his Somewhat short Quads in Relation to his Upper half Ruin the OVERALL effect of the shot Impressive yes, unbeatable no, when Flex was in Shape his FDB and BDB was one of the Best of them all.
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Yip good Post, everything is in the eye of the Beholder, i think the actual one pose Nasser did look Exceptional in for a Massive Guy was the Ab and Thigh in THAT shot arguably one of the Best ever of anyone over 260lbs, However agreed his Front double Bicep while Massive and Conditioned imo his Somewhat short Quads in Relation to his Upper half Ruin the OVERALL effect of the shot Impressive yes, unbeatable no, when Flex was in Shape his FDB and BDB was one of the Best of them all.
Nasser had a great ab/thigh, especially for a 260-280lb competitor like you say. Really good.
Flex at his best, everyone was looking to win 2nd place.
In 93 many feel he couldve won, and he may have, if he'd shown up like at the Ironman and AC, but yates was hard, big and the champ
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Nasser had a great ab/thigh, especially for a 260-280lb competitor like you say. Really good.
Flex at his best, everyone was looking to win 2nd place.
In 93 many feel he couldve won, and he may have, if he'd shown up like at the Ironman and AC, but yates was hard, big and the champ
Yates beating Flex in 93 was the last nail in the coffin of bodybuilding. Yates beating Levrone and Labrada in 92 is debatable.
Nasser's ab and thigh was legit and it was actually a weak pose for Flex but Ray and Flex are both far better put togeather than old googly eye, Nasser looked impressive because of the mass, if you take that away you aren't left with that much.
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Yates beating Flex in 93 was the last nail in the coffin of bodybuilding. Yates beating Levrone and Labrada in 92 is debatable.
Nasser's ab and thigh was legit and it was actually a weak pose for Flex but Ray and Flex are both far better put togeather than old googly eye, Nasser looked impressive because of the mass, if you take that away you aren't left with that much.
Labrada was great, one of my all time favourites, but too small to stand next to yates. Levrone was a rookie then
I liked young nasser. Good shape and flow. But obviously not good enough for going up against ray and company
People do not realize the quality guys like labrada, ray, gaspari had. Because they're smaller they get dismissed. They were unbelievable, and it took a monster (at the time) with quality to beat them - Haney.
From 88-91 in the GPs and other shows, labrada was the man outside the olympia, all the pros respected the guy physique and professionalism-wise
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let me point something out to some of you. some of you like to say nasser has short legs and long torso, none of you actually see this, you just say you do because you heard someone else say it. Now to the point.
long torso gives the illusion of narrow torso/waist. short legs gives the illusion of thick legs. so by some peoples logic a thick waist and small legs is more desirable.
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let me point something out to some of you. some of you like to say nasser has short legs and long torso, none of you actually see this, you just say you do because you heard someone else say it. Now to the point.
long torso gives the illusion of narrow torso/waist. short legs gives the illusion of thick legs. so by some peoples logic a thick waist and small legs is more desirable.
I believe Groink was the 1st to point out in this thread re the leg/torso ratio
However, as one can see from attached pic, its quite evident
A long torso/short legs, especially when quads are very big, looks unappealing, not very pleasing to the eye, bad flow
Other bbers like priest, dearth, mattarazzo also had short legs/long torsos
It makes him look bottom heavy, squat, disproportionate
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Wheeler's front double bi (or any shot where his arms are raised - show a glaring weakness - how narrow his lats are. Classic T-taper on his front double bi-shot. Laughable that some people think that's better than Nasser's.
The whole "long torso short legs" is just an excuse used by people trying to find reasons to discredit Nasser's physique. The only difference in Nasser and Dorian's torso is Nasser's had a tighter waist, and legs were more massive than Dorian's.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=418645.0;attach=472078;image)
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Wheeler's front double bi (or any shot where his arms are raised - show a glaring weakness - how narrow his lats are. Classic T-taper on his front double bi-shot. Laughable that some people think that's better than Nasser's.
The whole "long torso short legs" is just an excuse used by people trying to find reasons to discredit Nasser's physique. The only difference in Nasser and Dorian's torso is Nasser's had a tighter waist, and legs were more massive than Dorian's.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=418645.0;attach=472078;image)
In the above pic I see nasser struggling to hold his gut in check, and legs disproportionately large and due to their squat appearance looking odd(stupid actually)
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nasser was well known on the bb circuit for his love of the cock
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nasser was well known on the bb circuit for his love of the cock
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Also, of all the top pros from his era (Cormier, Ray, Wheeler, Levrone, Dorian, Ronnie), Nasser was easily the worst of them all. Easily.
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you mean as far as his penis-pulling goes ? :D
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Wheeler's front double bi (or any shot where his arms are raised - show a glaring weakness - how narrow his lats are. Classic T-taper on his front double bi-shot. Laughable that some people think that's better than Nasser's.
The whole "long torso short legs" is just an excuse used by people trying to find reasons to discredit Nasser's physique. The only difference in Nasser and Dorian's torso is Nasser's had a tighter waist, and legs were more massive than Dorian's.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=418645.0;attach=472078;image)
exactly
I never thought I'd hear some one argue that dorian was better due to a thicker waist and smaller legs. I always thought big legs and a narrow waist were a good thing.
But with brantch warrent winning anything now, and palumboism becoming the ideal, I guess the sport has reversed, in which case yes dorian is better
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let me point something out to some of you. some of you like to say nasser has short legs and long torso, none of you actually see this, you just say you do because you heard someone else say it. Now to the point.
long torso gives the illusion of narrow torso/waist. short legs gives the illusion of thick legs. so by some peoples logic a thick waist and small legs is more desirable.
I've been pointing out Nasser's flaws for years and NO ONE told me , it's blatantly obvious if you know how a judge see's a physique and look at him in relation to others on-stage
long torso gives the illusion of narrow torso/waist. short legs gives the illusion of thick legs. so by some peoples logic a thick waist and small legs is more desirable.
NOT how it works , the judges look for who has the better overall balance in a physique that means who has a more balance upper/lower body , when you have a long torso and short legs and high lats that becomes obvious when you're standing next to someone who doesn't , it's more desirable in the judges eyes to have great balance & proportion as well as all the other criteria
All of these factors are judged , height , size , muscle length , arm length in relation to torso , leg length in relation to the torso , proportion between all the muscles , where the muscles insert , high calves , high lats , etc , this is all things judges assess when directly comparing guys on-stage among other things like size , symmetry , detail , density , dryness , posing , presentation , who has the least amount of flaws
99.9% of people on this board don't know this , don't care to know it , and only base what they think should win on what they prefer and as I've said countless times NOT HOW IT WORKS , they pick out better parts and claim their hero should win NOT HOW IT WORKS they base who should win on 'aesthetics ' NOT HOW IT WORKS
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In the above pic I see nasser struggling to hold his gut in check, and legs disproportionately large and due to their squat appearance looking odd(stupid actually)
come on fago,.. it's funny you can see nasser's great lower body stupid and cant see how dorian's great calves overpower his upper legs ::)
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Wheeler's front double bi (or any shot where his arms are raised - show a glaring weakness - how narrow his lats are. Classic T-taper on his front double bi-shot. Laughable that some people think that's better than Nasser's.
The whole "long torso short legs" is just an excuse used by people trying to find reasons to discredit Nasser's physique. The only difference in Nasser and Dorian's torso is Nasser's had a tighter waist, and legs were more massive than Dorian's.
Flex's front double biceps is better why? he has more of a balance torso and legs and I agree about his narrowness but NOT in this pose in it directly compared to Nasser his lats appear just as wide , this only becomes more evident in the ab-thigh for Flex , that's when you can see this clearly
Flex is better in this pose from top to bottom because is balance & proportions and his muscularity Flex is also a better poser and he knew how to show his physique off to it's best light , Nasser always held his arms up to high
The whole "long torso short legs" is just an excuse used by people trying to find reasons to discredit Nasser's physique. The only difference in Nasser and Dorian's torso is Nasser's had a tighter waist, and legs were more massive than Dorian's.
It's not an excuse it's obvious , and judges look at these things when directly comparing guys on-stage. The only difference in Nasser's and Dorian's torso is Nasser had a tighter waist? ::) the difference is staggering , Dorian had more of a balance upper/lower body , his lats inserted near his waist , Nasser's inserted high , Which is part of the reason Nasser never looked as good as him in the front latspread
Nasser's legs were more massive that Dorian? shouldn't they be? Dorian competed much lighter than Nasser that ain't saying much ::) again you have to factor in everything , another textbook Getbig ignorant ploy pick out parts you like better and think that this means a victory for you guy , it's parts and how well those parts match to each other and how well those parts add up to who has the best pose , this is how it works
Nasser did very good despite his flaws but when push came to shove these things came back to haunt him. These ' flaws ' aren't a big deal to you but once again NOT HOW IT WORKS , when contests get close these are the things that can separate a contest
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exactly
I never thought I'd hear some one argue that dorian was better due to a thicker waist and smaller legs. I always thought big legs and a narrow waist were a good thing.
But with brantch warrent winning anything now, and palumboism becoming the ideal, I guess the sport has reversed, in which case yes dorian is better
Dorian's waist in that picture is not thicker and his legs are smaller and they should be and why? Nasser is 280 and Dorian is 255 duh ::)
Dorian was better for a host of reasons , but textbook dumb GetBiggers picking better parts and calling for the W ::)
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i see it very stupid to say someone has (short legs) AND (long torso)!!!.. this is actually one weak point and not 2,.. you either say his legs are short for his torso or his torso is long for his legs.. because if the same guy had longer legs the (long torso) weakness would not be there!!..
in nasser case his legs are a VERY little bit short for his upper body but in a much lesser degree than guys like priest or levrone.. so why nasser is related to this weakness more than others who have the same thing in a clearer way?!.. simply because nasser had only one clear weak point (his back condition) which is not the case with nearly all the other top pros who all have more than one clear weak point.. so this imaginary weakness is just to decrease the number of weak points in nasser!!!!..
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i see it very stupid to say someone has (short legs) AND (long torso)!!!.. this is actually one weak point and not 2,.. you either say his legs are short for his torso or his torso is long for his legs.. because if the same guy had longer legs the (long torso) weakness would not be there!!..
in nasser case his legs are a VERY little bit short for his upper body but in a much lesser degree than guys like priest or levrone.. so why nasser is related to this weakness more than others who have the same thing in a clearer way?!.. simply because nasser had only one clear weak point (his back condition) which is not the case with nearly all the other top pros who all have more than one clear weak point.. so this imaginary weakness is just to decrease the number of weak points in nasser!!!!..
Actually wrong you can have long legs and a long torso and it's all relative to height
but in a much lesser degree than guys like priest or levrone.
No shit they are both shorter than him ::) obviously it's gonna be more noticeable and others have pointed out Levrone's and Priest's shortcomings but we are talking about Nasser in relation to his competition
simply because nasser had only one clear weak point (his back condition)
laughable , he has a host of them and you can deny all you'd like it doesn't change them , like I said it's not a flaw if it's your hero , Nasser entire back was a MAJOR liability and it cost him heavy , factor in his other issues and it's obvious to anyone who is unbiased why he was always the bride's maid and never the bride
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Actually wrong you can have long legs and a long torso and it's all relative to height
will try to simplify what i said so you may understand,.. if nasser had dorian's legs would his torso still be considered long?!..
No shit they are both shorter than him ::) obviously it's gonna be more noticeable and others have pointed out Levrone's and Priest's shortcomings but we are talking about Nasser in relation to his competition
being shorter has nothing to do to make this more noticeable,.. as you just said it's all relative to height!!..
laughable , he has a host of them and you can deny all you'd like it doesn't change them , like I said it's not a flaw if it's your hero , Nasser entire back was a MAJOR liability and it cost him heavy , factor in his other issues and it's obvious to anyone who is unbiased why he was always the bride's maid and never the bride
at his very best his only real weak point was his back which was not the same level as the rest of him.. if you were unbiased you could have seen this :-\
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This makes no sense Sherief. In order for Dorian to have Nassers legs, he'd either have to lose a few inches in height or his torso would have to be longer, ala Nasser.
Nasser's quads have more sweep, in part because they are shorter and therefore wider than Dorians legs.
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will try to simplify what i said so you may understand,.. if nasser had dorian's legs would his torso still be considered long?!..
No because he would be taller if he had the same torso and Yates' longer legs
being shorter has nothing to do to make this more noticeable,.. as you just said it's all relative to height!!..
It does when you're side-by-side with someone , especially someone who doesn't have that flaw
at his very best his only real weak point was his back which was not the same level as the rest of him.. if you were unbiased you could have seen this
This is coming from the guy who said the only thing missing was back condition , out of the two of us I'm infinity more unbiased than you and more knowledgeable than you , I'm telling you this is how judges see things and how contests are judged , if everyone has short legs and long torsos than it's not a flaw is it?
This is the criteria for the back double biceps pay attention to this part especially because this explains a LOT when it comes to Nasser's failings
This pose, probably more than the others, will
help the judge to determine the quality of the
competitor’s muscle density, definition, and overall
balance.[
Ironically one of his worse poses
Back Double Biceps (see Figure 4)
Standing with his back to the judges, the competitor will
bend the arms and wrists as in the Front Double Biceps
pose, and will place one foot back, resting on the toes.
He will then contract the arm muscles as well as the
muscles of the shoulders, upper and lower back, thigh
and calf muscles.
The judge will first survey the arm muscles and then do
the head-to-foot survey, during which there are more
muscle groups to look at than in all of the other poses.
This includes the neck, deltoids, biceps, triceps, forearm,
trapezius, teres, infraspinatus, erector spinae, external
obliques, latissimus dorsi, gluteus, thigh biceps, and
calves. This pose, probably more than the others, will
help the judge to determine the quality of the
competitor’s muscle density, definition, and overall
balance.
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exactly
I never thought I'd hear some one argue that dorian was better due to a thicker waist and smaller legs. I always thought big legs and a narrow waist were a good thing.
But with brantch warrent winning anything now, and palumboism becoming the ideal, I guess the sport has reversed, in which case yes dorian is better
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Wheeler's front double bi (or any shot where his arms are raised - show a glaring weakness - how narrow his lats are. Classic T-taper on his front double bi-shot. Laughable that some people think that's better than Nasser's.
The whole "long torso short legs" is just an excuse used by people trying to find reasons to discredit Nasser's physique. The only difference in Nasser and Dorian's torso is Nasser's had a tighter waist, and legs were more massive than Dorian's.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=418645.0;attach=472078;image)
If you objectivity believe Nasser Vs Flex @ their Bests Results in Nasser having a "Superior" FDB than Flex thats your View and Most here and everywhere else obviously dont know what they are looking @ we all dont know anything about BBing... i guess everyone is "against" Nasser mayby because hes not white...a Arab...didnt Kiss weiders ass...didnt win the 1997 O because "They wouldn't let him"...and on and on it goes, or perhaps its a little more simple, he just wasnt as good as Flex or Yates, Bobs you CAN NOT rewrite History...it is what it is he was a Great Bber no doubt about it, just never the BEST.
Can not speak for other people, However from my View not interested in Discrediting Nasser always said he was ONE of the BEST in his Prime, Just NEVER the Actual best as in Number 1, if you Really actually believe they was no obvious issue between Nassers Long torso in relation to his shorter Quads then well perhaps your Friendship clouds your Reasoning between being a Loyal Friend and calling it like it actually is... Nothing wrong with being Honest sometimes Loyal or not.
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come on fago,.. it's funny you can see nasser's great lower body stupid and cant see how dorian's great calves overpower his upper legs ::)
Lol
Whenever anyone points out a truth you can't handle regarding your hero, you get personal with the insults
Just because you have a fetish for the guy and have convinced yourself of certain things, doesn't mean we must share your opinion.
Dorian had normal legs, and they were proprtionate to his physique. In the pose where they were doing back shots dorian was bringing his knees closer, showing his hamstring development to the judges. Because dorian could pose brilliantly, and had confidence in the back poses, unlike some. Therefore he did not look like he was bottom heavy, with dominant short legs. Also the fact he had lats, helped balance his physique.
All these things, helped yates amass several sandow statuettes.
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No because he would be taller if he had the same torso and Yates' longer legs
check here nasser with dorian legs and dorian with nasser's leg.. do you still see nasser's torso long?!.. no?!.. so again you can't consider them 2 weak points but one..
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Lol
Whenever anyone points out a truth you can't handle regarding your hero, you get personal with the insults
Just because you have a fetish for the guy and have convinced yourself of certain things, doesn't mean we must share your opinion.
Dorian had normal legs, and they were proprtionate to his physique. In the pose where they were doing back shots dorian was bringing his knees closer, showing his hamstring development to the judges. Because dorian could pose brilliantly, and had confidence in the back poses, unlike some. Therefore he did not look like he was bottom heavy, with dominant short legs. Also the fact he had lats, helped balance his physique.
All these things, helped yates amass several sandow statuettes.
i never meant to insult you man it was all for fun (GB style) :D.. sorry if i cause you any offense..
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i never meant to insult you man it was all for fun (GB style) :D.. sorry if i cause you any offense..
I've been here long enough to know that ;D
Post some makawiy (spelling?) Pics, take a break from nasser. No matter how many times we re-visit this, he still doesn't win the olympia!
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I've been here long enough to know that ;D
Post some makawiy (spelling?) Pics, take a break from nasser. No matter how many times we re-visit this, he still doesn't win the olympia!
ok brother no problem :-X ;D
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ok brother no problem :-X ;D
Or a real mr olympia, like bannout, one of my favourite bbers
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Or a real mr olympia, like bannout, one of my favourite bbers
one of my very favorites too.. i think if his left triceps was not torn in a car accident and he was able to keep his 82 or 83 condition he was going to be lee haney's runner up for more years than labrada and gaspari.. and could have beat haney when haney was off like in 1990!!..
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one of my very favorites too.. i think if his left triceps was not torn in a car accident and he was able to keep his 82 or 83 condition he was going to be lee haney's runner up for more years than labrada and gaspari.. and could have beat haney when haney was off like in 1990!!..
did he tear it in late 83 or early 84? I saw a clip of pre 84 mr O, he had a bandage and was looking way off...
I would've liked to have seen him do well, and taken advantage of a haney slip up
The guy was very good for bbing, presentation, charisma, polished and focused
Real showman
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did he tear it in late 83 or early 84? I saw a clip of pre 84 mr O, he had a bandage and was looking way off...
I would've liked to have seen him do well, and taken advantage of a haney slip up
The guy was very good for bbing, presentation, charisma, polished and focused
Real showman
i read about this accident about 18 years ago!!.. but i think it happened by the end of 84 after the olympia.. because if i remember right this magazine said he was clearly off (carrying water) in 84 so couldn't do well and in 85 he couldn't compete because of that accident.. anyway will check his routine in 84 to see if his left tri was injured or not.. it was a very bad tear and can be seen clearly in all his later shows..
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i have just checked it and his left tri was fine in 84 so the accident happened after the contest.. this explains why he didnt compete the following year..
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i have just checked it and his left tri was fine in 84 so the accident happened after the contest.. this explains why he didnt compete the following year..
So why the dip in shape from 83 to 84 ?
Haney had improved, but a 83 bannout may have taken it...
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I've been pointing out Nasser's flaws for years and NO ONE told me , it's blatantly obvious if you know how a judge see's a physique and look at him in relation to others on-stage
NOT how it works , the judges look for who has the better overall balance in a physique that means who has a more balance upper/lower body , when you have a long torso and short legs and high lats that becomes obvious when you're standing next to someone who doesn't , it's more desirable in the judges eyes to have great balance & proportion as well as all the other criteria
All of these factors are judged , height , size , muscle length , arm length in relation to torso , leg length in relation to the torso , proportion between all the muscles , where the muscles insert , high calves , high lats , etc , this is all things judges assess when directly comparing guys on-stage among other things like size , symmetry , detail , density , dryness , posing , presentation , who has the least amount of flaws
99.9% of people on this board don't know this , don't care to know it , and only base what they think should win on what they prefer and as I've said countless times NOT HOW IT WORKS , they pick out better parts and claim their hero should win NOT HOW IT WORKS they base who should win on 'aesthetics ' NOT HOW IT WORKS
What you just outlined would constitute aesthetics...
Neither Dorian or Nasser or Ronnie or Jay possess the qualities that the judges supposedly score for lol.
But yes Nasser did have a strange structure that wasn't pleasing, whether his fans care to admit it or not.
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So why the dip in shape from 83 to 84 ?
Haney had improved, but a 83 bannout may have taken it...
according to samir he always had a problem with getting rid of water before contests.. this is why he didn't look super hard except few times like in 82 and 83..
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still IMO he clearly deserved to win in 82 and to place higher in 84..
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still IMO he clearly deserved to win in 82 and to place higher in 84..
He was always water-logged until 82, which was his show
Dickerson shouldve taken it in 81
Interesting how he could never repeat it
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check here nasser with dorian legs and dorian with nasser's leg.. do you still see nasser's torso long?!.. no?!.. so again you can't consider them 2 weak points but one..
Dorian looks a little better with Nasser's legs from the front.
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one of my very favorites too.. i think if his left triceps was not torn in a car accident and he was able to keep his 82 or 83 condition he was going to be lee haney's runner up for more years than labrada and gaspari.. and could have beat haney when haney was off like in 1990!!..
Samir looked amazing at the 1990 NABBA World Championships. This was probably the last time he was spot on, but Charles Clairmonte beat him out to win.
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I think Nasser's long torso and thickly developed abs and high lats , coupled with shortish legs, throw off his proportions. his head is big with a thick neck.....there are just structural things about him that take away from his overall look
Not to say i don't appreciate the amount of muscle he carries,he's HUGE but he doesn't look as huge as he should, if that makes any sense
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Samir looked amazing at the 1990 NABBA World Championships. This was probably the last time he was spot on, but Charles Clairmonte beat him out to win.
Was the NABBA show before the O? At the 90 O he looked nothing like that (everyone looked bit off due to testing).
How was he allowed to compete at a NABBA and IFBB show in same year, weiders always clamped down on that...
He does look good there, hamstrings a bit weak, though
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Iceman,
Thanks for pics btw, if you have more, please post, bannout, clairmonte!
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Why was Yates winning Olympia's while Charles was finishing outside top ten?
Yates has nothing on this build whatsoever.
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Dorian looks a little better with Nasser's legs from the front.
very true and if he took nasser's upper body too he would have looked much better :D
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very true and if he took nasser's upper body too he would have looked much better :D
Nassers legs look REALLY stumpy on Dorian.
JMHO.
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thick waist + skinny legs > narrow waist + thick legs
yes this is what is being argued here, not as a joke either.
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Was the NABBA show before the O? At the 90 O he looked nothing like that (everyone looked bit off due to testing).
How was he allowed to compete at a NABBA and IFBB show in same year, weiders always clamped down on that...
He does look good there, hamstrings a bit weak, though
I was wondering the same thing. Maybe he was a former Mr. Olympia and that's why Weider let Samir compete? Yeah, his hams were a bit small from the side.
Arnie posted the video to Samir's and Clairmonte's routines. I have the same videos, but the dimensions are bigger than the youtube version.
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A lot of people don't know that Clairmonte beat Flex and Levrone at the 1993 English Grand Prix. He beat 2 runner ups (Kevin in 92' & Flex in 93') to the Mr. Olympia. If I had to choose a physique that I would like to have it would be Clairemont's.
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A lot of people don't know that Clairmonte beat Flex and Levrone at the 1993 English Grand Prix. He beat 2 runner ups (Kevin in 92' & Flex in 93') to the Mr. Olympia. If I had to choose a physique that I would like to have it would Clairemont's.
Very overlooked. He wasn't a "name", whilst I'm a labrada and ray fan, and also liked dillet & kevin, clairmonte could easily have taken 3rd instead of 7th, if he had been winning/placing high at NOCs and ACs instead of NABBA shows
While levrone and flex may have let their olympia condition go a bit, it goes to show what a fresh judging panel can do
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Very overlooked. He wasn't a "name", whilst I'm a labrada and ray fan, and also liked dillet & kevin, clairmonte could easily have taken 3rd instead of 7th, if he had been winning/placing high at NOCs and ACs instead of NABBA shows
While levrone and flex may have let their olympia condition go a bit, it goes to show what a fresh judging panel can do
Overlooked big time. I'm getting a copy of the 1993 & 1998 Ironman and also the 1993 English Grand Prix. I'll post the pics to those contests.