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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Sherief Shalaby on February 20, 2013, 01:54:52 PM
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i think i hold my own beside one of the biggest and best bb pros ever?.. ;D
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You're not holding anything but nassoles nuts in your mouth.
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i think i hold my own beside one of the biggest and best bb pros ever?.. ;D
I see what you did there.... ;D
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Who cares about a hasbin BB who looks like shit from 20 years ago.
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i think i hold my own beside one of the biggest and best bb pros ever?.. ;D
That's a pretty piss poor attempt at photoshop.
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Did you use MS Paint to do this?
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i think i hold my own beside one of the biggest and best bb pros ever?.. ;D
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Thought Nasser would be bigger
Salami is what, 170 cm?
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When I saw this pic of a 90's body builder, I immediately went into "where's Waldo " mode looking for a Fanny pack. I have still yet to find it.
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i think i hold my own beside one of the biggest and best bb pros ever?.. ;D
tremendous news Sherief!
both you and Nasser look in tremendous shape!!
Nasser visiting the home country, did he tell you how his visit with President Morsi went?
is October 15 going to Nasser El Sonbaty day in Nasser's honour??
Team Nasser- better than ever :)
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Team Nasserbombz
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Good to see that POF is doing well in Egypt.
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i think i hold my own beside one of the biggest and best bb pros ever?.. ;D
Get a few sets of tweezers. You folk got pube like eye brows.
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His head looks funny
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Yes you are really dwarfing Nasser now, Salami
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sherief
post more pics!
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shop some of that unibrow hair to the top of your head
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i think i hold my own beside one of the biggest and best bb pros ever?.. ;D
has there been a falling out between u and nasser?
why start hating on the poor guy now?
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did you guys visit Esmat Sadek?
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i think i hold my own beside one of the biggest and best bb pros ever?.. ;D
How does Nasser shave his hair or does just not grow?
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Good pic thanks for sharing.
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(http://www.thetruthishere.com/sitebuilder/images/conehead-profile-229x249.jpg)
Pharaohs, Mayans, and coneheaded skulls (calling j falcon)
http://www.thetruthishere.com/conehead.html (http://www.thetruthishere.com/conehead.html)
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Good pic thanks for sharing.
;D
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Good pic thanks for sharing.
b, do you find coneheaded men attractive?
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b, do you find coneheaded men attractive?
Its a nice pic of Nasser but I am still sour with the dude he's standing next to. I am sure Nasser wouldn't like how his friend treats animals. Nasser loves animals!!!!
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Its a nice pic of Nasser but I am still sour with the dude he's standing next to. I am sure Nasser wouldn't like how his friend treats animals. Nasser loves animals!!!!
Yes Sheriff Salami is quite the mistreater of animals and pets
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Yes Sheriff Salami is quite the mistreater of animals and pets
muslims carry all kinds of hang ups about animals due to 'tradition'.
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Never thought i'd see the day that Nassar could buy pants off the rack
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Never thought i'd see the day that Nassar could buy pants of the rack
He looks good a little smaller. His face looks healthy.
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b, do you find coneheaded men attractive?
What gets her really wet is men who sound like semi-retarded Mexicans and who obsess over a specific bodybuilding website like groupies and/or scorned lovers.
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What gets her really wet is men who sound like semi-retarded Mexicans and who obsess over a specific bodybuilding website like groupies and/or scorned lovers.
Who sounds like a Mexican??? It's not Nasser.
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Who sounds like a Mexican??? It's not Nasser.
My post doesn't really have anything to do with you.
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do not be unduly alarmed booty, jonny
syntaxmachine is addressing me,
He is clearly upset that I often make fun of his buddies from the rxHustle site and for some reason he thinks i am mexicano
he claims to know syntax, but clearly has no concept of semantics
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My post doesn't really have anything to do with you.
Sorry I misunderstood.
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Sorry I misunderstood.
Bet you say that 28-30 times a day. ;D
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My post doesn't really have anything to do with you.
Your posts have nothing to do with anyone in general since from your posting profile you are either a post bot or a a very sad individual which is continuously connected to getbig
you have the flattest 'pulse' I have ever seen here. jeebus christ do you ever log off this thing?
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I have never made a post during the hour of 3AM.
All 23 other hours are accounted for though :-\
gh15 is not much better than syntax machine in this regard:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=profile;u=12769;sa=statPanel
Sign of a shared account?
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sign of a shared avatar
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:o
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:o
Nassar's a good bloke :)
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kul, i am generally on ur side here, but truth be told that was a weak post
u may want to pick up the pace -dont let the team down
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Your posts have nothing to do with anyone in general since from your posting profile you are either a post bot or a a very sad individual which is continuously connected to getbig
Why would my being a robot imply that my posts have nothing to do with anyone? Their content is their content, much of which addresses specific people and their wackiness (weird voices, preternatural obsession with specific bodybuilding communities they have nothing to do with, etc.) regardless of what/who posted it.
you have the flattest 'pulse' I have ever seen here. jeebus christ do you ever log off this thing?
Hahah, oh brother, my blistering pace of 5 posts per day marks me as some kind of loser, does it? This is the only forum I frequent, brah. Now, I'll be happy to admit that even that modest a rate is more than I find preferable, but this place is addictive. I'm sure most will agree with me on that point.
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I don't think my or anyone else's activity warrants screenshotting as if it is so interesting, because, well, it isn't. Given your history of somewhat obsessive involvement in bodybuilding communities from the sideline, however, perhaps I shouldn't be surprised. In any case, I am flattered.
P.S. OpenOffice is superior to Word.
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did he ask you to swallow?
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He looks good a little smaller. His face looks healthy.
yes you are right my lady.. nasser is only 250 pounds now and looks very lean in the face and forearms "the only areas i saw"..
here is the original shot ;D
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i felt great when the 3X uncrowned mr. olympia liked my arm :D
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yes you are right my lady.. nasser is only 250 pounds now and looks very lean in the face and forearms "the only areas i saw"..
here is the original shot ;D
everything else aside, you are aware that the both of you dress pretty badly, i hope
assuming that is the case, what steps -if any- are u taking to remedy this?
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i felt great when the 3X uncrowned mr. olympia liked my arm :D
That's a good arm Sherief. Impressive.
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i felt great when the 3X uncrowned mr. olympia liked my arm :D
Liked your arm around his penis you mean.
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That's a pretty piss poor attempt at photoshop.
man you are not very smart if you think i really wanted it to look real..
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i felt great when the 3X uncrowned mr. olympia liked my arm :D
great pic sherief!
what did you guys end up eating @ that restaraunt? some delicious Arabic egyptian food?
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How does Nasser shave his hair or does just not grow?
hi bro.,.. he shaves..
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man you are not very smart if you think i really wanted it to look real..
Well you're an arab, so you're dumb by default.
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great pic sherief!
what did you guys end up eating @ that restaraunt? some delicious Arabic egyptian food?
nasser ate typical mix grill with white rice and steamed vegetables..
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yes you are right my lady.. nasser is only 250 pounds now and looks very lean in the face and forearms "the only areas i saw"..
here is the original shot ;D
yes, "only 250" pounds but im sure very very lean
when i visited Nasser in 2012 he was around 280 pounds but still lean and vascular,
now Nasser must be ripped
is it very hot now in Cairo sherief?
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nasser ate typical mix grill with white rice and steamed vegetables..
what are you eating there sherief?
looks delicious
when i visited Nasser we ate alot of excellent Arabic food- its great BB food
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yes, "only 250" pounds but im sure very very lean
when i visited Nasser in 2012 he was around 280 pounds but still lean and vascular,
now Nasser must be ripped
is it very hot now in Cairo sherief?
no bro. the weather is perfect now in EG.. worm in the day and a little cold in the evening..
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what are you eating there sherief?
looks delicious
when i visited Nasser we ate alot of excellent Arabic food- its great BB food
my dish in arabic is called "moza" which is soft meat with thin lair of fats..
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beef shawarma and lentil soup
food of champions! :)
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You guys meet at the surplus store?
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nasser looks small
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nasser looks small
Yes, Mars. Huge Nasser downgraded to Large Nasser.
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:D :D :D
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nasser looks small
it's a relative thing man.. you are saying this because you are seeing him beside another monster while you used to see him beside normal size ppl ;D
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i felt great when the 3X uncrowned mr. olympia liked my arm :D
looks like he s finally forced to go off the sauce and will shrink to 120 lbs... that s prolly the only interesting thing to notice in this homoerotic love fest of a thread.
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Sherief is among the strongest Arabs on this board.
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Cool stuff Sherief .. I would like to meet Nasser as well. I am sure he is an interesting guy and was a hell of a bodybuilder too.
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Sherief is among the strongest Arabs on this board.
= Skinniest kid at fat camp.
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Is it normal for two men to go to dinner together and pose for each othee?
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thats true sherief
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Sherief is among the strongest Arabs on this board.
Quite true for his size.
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Sherief is among the strongest Arabs natural on this board.
;D
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Cool stuff Sherief .. I would like to meet Nasser as well. I am sure he is an interesting guy and was a hell of a bodybuilder too.
thx bro. yes nasser is very nice as i was expecting him.. we spent most of the day together and talked a lot about many things.. he has for sure great historical knowledge and narrates things in a very interesting way.. sure i asked him some questions about my training and diet but most of the time our conversation was not bb related.. he is a nice man who can talk with you about anything..
ah and he said my personality in real life is exactly the same as on GB lol..
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Is it normal for two men to go to dinner together and pose for each othee?
it's normal if you are taking a pic. with one of bb legends to hit a pose for fun to show him that you too have some muscles lol.. it was like a joke man i was not really showing him my arm..
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it's normal if you are taking a pic. with one of bb legends to hit a pose for fun to show him that you too have some muscles lol.. it was like a joke man i was not really showing him my arm..
I was just fooling around man
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Cool stuff Sherief .. I would like to meet Nasser as well. I am sure he is an interesting guy and was a hell of a bodybuilder too.
QFT
Nasser was one of the best BB's ever in the history of the sport, no doubt about it.
and yes, Nasser is highly intelligent and extremely knowledgeable in a multitude of areas, history, politics, world events,sports, cars, women, relationships.
He also has a very dry sense of humor :)
Unlike the majority of BB's i've met and talked with, Nasser can discuss many many other topics besides BB, how much chicken to eat blah blah blah
He is also honest+ truthful about steroids + PEDS, unlike others like Gutler
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thx bro. yes nasser is very nice as i was expecting him.. we spent most of the day together and talked a lot about many things.. he has for sure great historical knowledge and narrates things in a very interesting way.. sure i asked him some questions about my training and diet but most of the time our conversation was not bb related.. he is a nice man who can talk with you about anything..
ah and he said my personality in real life is exactly the same as on GB lol..
:D
yes.. I believe Groink pointed out that our online personas are simply exagerated versions of our real selves and rightfully so.
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did nasser ever post on getbig? (don't say gh16 either lol)
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did nasser ever post on getbig? (don't say gh16 either lol)
i didnt ask him and we nearly didnt talk about GB.. we did talk about the current pros and the pros of the 90s,.. he said there are some good guys now but not as the top of the 90s "as we all say".. from the guys of the 90s he likes ronnie's personality and to some extent paul dillet.. also he talked in a good way about the physiques of wheeler, ray, and, dorian saying that no doubt they were great bbrs..
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Now that Sherief has met his hero, maybe one day I will get to meet Tito24 or Sev. :)
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He really opened up to you then.
Still should have asked him about Getbig tho.
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He really opened up to you then.
Still should have asked him about Getbig tho.
we mentioned GB 3 times:
- he told me my personality is the exact same as on GB..
- i told him "how is bobs??.. he doesnt post on GB a lot now"..
- i asked him "is it ok to post some of the pics we took together on GB"..
;D
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Sadly, so is mine.
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Now that Sherief has met his hero, maybe one day I will get to meet Tito24 or Sev. :)
X2 , Mars and Sev quality posters.
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i didnt ask him and we nearly didnt talk about GB.. we did talk about the current pros and the pros of the 90s,.. he said there are some good guys now but not as the top of the 90s "as we all say".. from the guys of the 90s he likes ronnie's personality and to some extent paul dillet.. also he talked in a good way about the physiques of wheeler, ray, and, dorian saying that no doubt they were great bbrs..
Fascinating discussion without a doubt, was it before, while or after he fucked you in the ass?
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The repressed gay love is strong in those arabs, first bob and nasser, now "sherif" and nasser... Do you often invite each others to "dine at the restaurant" oh brother, talking about muscular men and "bodybuilding"...you realize how awkyard it sounds to most heterosexual people ?
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soon nasser will talk smack about everyone there, this ones wife stunk, the other guy wiped his ass with a towel and some other guy wanted to suck his dick
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The repressed gay love is strong in those arabs, first bob and nasser, now "sherif" and nasser... Do you often invite each others to "dine at the restaurant" oh brother, talking about muscular men and "bodybuilding"...you realize how awkyard it sounds to most heterosexual people ?
i didnt know nasser was here and we didnt exchange any emails for months.. before meeting him by one day i found him calling me to tell me he was in Egypt and would like to see me.. so what is so strange to like to meet me when he comes in egypt especially this doesnt happen a lot.. he come once every 10 or more years..
sure i was very happy to meet him but more as someone i like and not as a bb star and legend.. i am for sure a very big fan of nasser the bb legend but i am not at all of that kind of ppl who cares to meet famous persons and take pictures with.. when i took nasser to show him the gym i train in it was nearly empty but still the very few guys who were training recognized him and took pics with him.. if i was in their place and found someone entering the place with ronnie coleman or dorian yates or nasser "in case i didnt know him before" i wouldn't care to take pics with..
here is a shot with "my great friend" nasser in the gym ;D
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why was he in egypt? did it have something to do with drugs/guns?
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that is one shitty looking terrorist training camp gym :P
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=460545.0;attach=506670;image)
that is one shitty looking terrorist training camp gym :P
lol ya but this is not the main gym,.. the main one is being totally upgraded now so we train in this place as a temporary alternative..
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just hit the report to CIA button - sheriff sa lady refuses to disclose what nefarious purposes were behind nassers visit to egypt
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just hit the report to CIA button - sheriff sa lady refuses to disclose what nefarious purposes were behind nassers visit to egypt
nasser is half egyptian so the uncommon is not to go in egypt ::)
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nasser is half egyptian so the uncommon is not to go in egypt ::)
cia file says he has no family in egypt.
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cia file says he has no family in egypt.
your are very funny :-\
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i didnt know nasser was here and we didnt exchange any emails for months.. before meeting him by one day i found him calling me to tell me he was in Egypt and would like to see me.. so what is so strange to like to meet me when he comes in egypt especially this doesnt happen a lot.. he come once every 10 or more years..
I think it was sweet you exchanged emails for months
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your are very funny :-\
i may be funny but that still doesnt change the fact he has no family left in egypt.
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i didnt know nasser was here and we didnt exchange any emails for months.. before meeting him by one day i found him calling me to tell me he was in Egypt and would like to see me.. so what is so strange to like to meet me when he comes in egypt especially this doesnt happen a lot.. he come once every 10 or more years..
sure i was very happy to meet him but more as someone i like and not as a bb star and legend.. i am for sure a very big fan of nasser the bb legend but i am not at all of that kind of ppl who cares to meet famous persons and take pictures with.. when i took nasser to show him the gym i train in it was nearly empty but still the very few guys who were training recognized him and took pics with him.. if i was in their place and found someone entering the place with ronnie coleman or dorian yates or nasser "in case i didnt know him before" i wouldn't care to take pics with..
here is a shot with "my great friend" nasser in the gym ;D
shut your mouth you homo. Everyone s aware you re a fag but you heh?
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lol ya but this is not the main gym,.. the main one is being totally upgraded now so we train in this place as a temporary alternative..
Did you train with Nasser?
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Did you train with Nasser?
not yet but i hope i do before he leaves..
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not yet but i hope i do before he leaves..
highly probable. Nasser won't let his little boy toy go without a little pain.
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8)
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nasser is half egyptian so the uncommon is not to go in egypt ::)
Real Egyptians as in the originals, were black. Arabs (You, Nasser, Ach) are Egyptian by occupancy not by race. This is fact.
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Real Egyptians as in the originals, were black. Arabs (You, Nasser, Ach) are Egyptian by occupancy not by race. This is fact.
and real americans were not black or white they were red ::)
what is your point??..
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and real americans were not black or white they were red ::)
what is your point??..
his point is that nasser has no non-nefarious business in egypt. is he smuggling antiquities?
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and real americans were not black or white they were red ::)
what is your point??..
American is not a race, Egyptian is a race and nationality. That's my point. And people that see you Arabs that occupy most of Egypt as Egyptians and in fact, you are not Egyptian by blood (Unless race mixed with Black Egyptians.) Original Egyptians were black 95% of Americans don't know this cause they are told otherwise, ask some of the idiots. They'll fight the idea with tooth and nail that blacks did anything but live in mudhuts.
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American is not a race, Egyptian is a race and nationality. That's my point. And people that see you Arabs that occupy most of Egypt as Egyptians and in fact, you are not Egyptian by blood (Unless race mixed with Black Egyptians.) Original Egyptians were black 95% of Americans don't know this cause they are told otherwise, ask some of the idiots. They'll fight the idea with tooth and nail that blacks did anything but live in mudhuts.
might be true but nefertitty and ramses were white.
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i mean nefertiti
ne fer titi - ne fair titty = the white breast
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Yes, Nefertitty had her fair share of ample breasts
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might be true but nefertitty and ramses were white.
Nefertiti was Egyptian, Egyptian name, suggesting she was born in Egypt. According to the Encyclopedia of World Biography, “evidence indicates that she had an Egyptian wet-nurse or governess of noble rank, strong support for a birth within the circle of the Egyptian royal court.”
Some scholars believe that she was a foreign princess, possibly from Mitanni (now known as Syria)....That's about as much proof as you have that was was anything other than non-black.
Oh yeah....Perhaps you were talking about a different Ramses. Here "white" Ramses II in his chariot fighting the Nubians. The other pic is tomb wall depicting Nefertiti. Notice the Nubians (Modern day Sudanese people aka Manut Bol) how dark they are (Manut Bol dark). While Egyptians are lighter like modern Ethiopians, or brown.
Anything else you'd like to be schooled on? I noticed how you haven't decided to take my challenge and prove me wrong that the original Israelites were black also.
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Nefertiti was Egyptian, Egyptian name, suggesting she was born in Egypt. According to the Encyclopedia of World Biography, “evidence indicates that she had an Egyptian wet-nurse or governess of noble rank, strong support for a birth within the circle of the Egyptian royal court.”
Some scholars believe that she was a foreign princess, possibly from Mitanni (now known as Syria)....That's about as much proof as you have that was was anything other than non-black.
Oh yeah....Perhaps you were talking about a different Ramses. Here "white" Ramses II in his chariot fighting the Nubians. The other pic is tomb wall depicting Nefertiti. Notice the Nubians (Modern day Sudanese people aka Manut Bol) how dark they are (Manut Bol dark). While Egyptians are lighter like modern Ethiopians, or brown.
Anything else you'd like to be schooled on? I noticed how you haven't decided to take my challenge and prove me wrong that the original Israelites were black also.
dont forget to tell us that all greek knowledge came from the black egyptians, or have you not reached that part of the boo yet ;D ;D ;D
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dont forget to tell us that all greek knowledge came from the black egyptians, or have you not reached that part of the boo yet ;D ;D ;D
Haven't studied Greece that much nor do I care. I'm breaking down the truth about Ancient Egypt and the original Israelites or Hebrews. The ones by blood. The black ones. Not Khazar Empire converts known as Ashkenazi "Jews".
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Haven't studied Greece that much nor do I care. I'm breaking down the truth about Ancient Egypt and the original Israelites or Hebrews. The ones by blood. The black ones. Not Khazar Empire converts known as Ashkenazi "Jews".
lol looks like my comment about jesus being a male bar refaeli spurred some furious googling in the wiggs burrow.
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why am i not surprised that you were immediately drawn to the conspiracy theories about the ashkenazi?
also the eighteenth and nineteenth dynasties in egypt are indo-europeans... or aryans.
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lol looks like my comment about jesus being a male bar refaeli spurred some furious googling in the wiggs burrow.
What you say has no bearing on what I do here. You can spread all the lies you want but truth always surfaces. I'm making a career of making you look stupid. Who needs a job?
BLACK, BLACK, BLACK you recessive trait twink.
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Damn Wiggs kickin' some knowledge to "ya'll niggaz" ;D
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why am i not surprised that you were immediately drawn to the conspiracy theories about the ashkenazi?
also the eighteenth and nineteenth dynasties in egypt are indo-europeans... or aryans.
LOL. Conspiracy theory. They're converts dipshit. Try reading a book and studying history.
I've proven you wrong too many times. Do you ever say anything factually accurate? Everytime I prove you wrong you say nothing and move on to the next stupid thing that pops into that pathetic little mind.
I'll go back to ignoring you till you start quoting your sources instead of talking stupid shit.
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LOL. Conspiracy theory. They're converts dipshit. Try reading a book and studying history.
I've proven you wrong too many times. Do you ever say anything factually accurate? Everytime I prove you wrong you say nothing and move on to the next stupid thing that pops into that pathetic little mind.
I'll go back to ignoring you till you start quoting your sources instead of talking stupid shit.
hahaha. I'm supposed to quote my sources and read a book while you resort to google-fu and youtube research. very funny.
everyone knows that everything cool about the ancient egyptians happened because the vikings used to come down in their longships for mediterranean vacations and have flings with the indigenous egyptian royalty. their progeny built the pyramids, etc. it was hybrid vigor in the ancient world. i don't know why you're so resistant to these FACTS.
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also, not a commonly known FACT - when the ancient israelites were escaping from slavery in egypt - how do you think they got across the red sea? They ran into some vacationing vikings who ran them across in their longships and then drowned the egyptian cavalry for being big bullies.
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Real Egyptians as in the originals, were black. Arabs (You, Nasser, Ach) are Egyptian by occupancy not by race. This is fact.
Nope. I can't speak for Nasser and Sherif, my ancestors were turkish not Egyptian, but you are still wrong. Ancient Egyptians were not black buddy they look like Arabs. You can still see their descendants in the villages of egypt today.
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Nope. I can't speak for Nasser and Sherif, my ancestors were turkish not Egyptian, but you are still wrong. Ancient Egyptians were not black buddy they look like Arabs. You can still see their descendants in the villages of egypt today.
is your last name sawiris?
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oh never mind your first name is achmed
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I'm not letting you pasty little scumbags get away with anymore historically inaccurate claims. The truth is the truth. Blacks were the first race. (Scientifically Proven). Everything in ALL of Africa was originally BLACK including Egypt. Original Hebrews/Isrealites where Black. All this can be verified through historical documents...INCLUDING the Bible, which the original Israelites (NOT JEWS) wrote.
Deal with it, it's the truth. Don't believe me do your research, and prove me wrong. If I'm wrong, I'll eat crow. I have no problems with that. But what you're told and what's the truth is two different things. This seems to be a problem in 'Merica. Other countries know and acknowledge these things. White Americans always trying to be what they're not, depict things how they'd like history to have been. LOL. @ a white Cleopatra...LOL. Cleopatra was black. This was proven last year I believe when they found her sisters grave and ran tests and she was Negro...LOL.
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is your last name sawiris?
No im not Christian nor am I swimming in billions of Dollars ;)
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Nope. I can't speak for Nasser and Sherif, my ancestors were turkish not Egyptian, but you are still wrong. Ancient Egyptians were not black buddy they look like Arabs. You can still see their descendants in the villages of egypt today.
yes they were dark but not black.. not like the ppl of south and middle africa.. those were black and sure wiggs very first source was there..
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Nope. I can't speak for Nasser and Sherif, my ancestors were turkish not Egyptian, but you are still wrong. Ancient Egyptians were not black buddy they look like Arabs. You can still see their descendants in the villages of egypt today.
Wrong Ach ::)
It's not up for debate. It's already been proven. Until Arabs came through , Egypt was black. This is historical fact, not opinion.
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yes they were dark but not black.. not like the ppl of south and middle africa.. those were black and sure wiggs very first source was there..
You do understand that blacks come in all shades right. From Ethiopian light brown to Sudanese Black. There are many different kinds of black as there are many different kinds of white, Asian and Hispanic....Duh. All Black Africans are not the same. They are as different as German and an Irishman. Is that a hard concept to grasp?
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Wrong Ach ::)
It's not up for debate. It's already been proven. Until Arabs came through , Egypt was black. This is historical fact, not opinion.
OK Wiggs, when you visit Egypt and speak to various scholars and Egyptologists here as I have maybe then I'll start believing you
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You do understand that blacks come in all shades right. From Ethiopian light brown to Sudanese Black. There are many different kinds of black as there are many different kinds of white, Asian and Hispanic....Duh. All Black Africans are not the same. They are as different as German and an Irishman. Is that a hard concept to grasp?
i am not talking about the different degrees of the black color but i mean that you for example are "dark" not very black but you still look african,.. the ancient egyptian were dark too,.. a little lighter than you in your avatar but didnt look like the african race "flat nose,.. curly hair, lips.. etc".. so you cant say the anicient egyptian before being colonized by any other race had come from the same source of the ancient nigerian or south africans.. totally different origin..
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OK Wiggs, when you visit Egypt and speak to various scholarshave and Egyptologists here as I have maybe then I'll start believing you
Yeah, I wonder what they look like Ach? You or me? They have nothing to protect ::) ::) ::)
Guess there was no such thing as Black Pharaohs in Egypt too. And here's Nefertiti looking really Arab. Oh And I guess the DNA test they did on Cleopatra's sister last year that showed she had African blood. I guess that's fake too. ::) ::) ::)
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Real Egyptians as in the originals, were black. Arabs (You, Nasser, Ach) are Egyptian by occupancy not by race. This is fact.
I study history and you know I have spent 1000's of hours on Egyptology and the Hieroglyph's that show Egyptian black compose around 15% of all hieroglyphs and the rest are brown. Of course black people show the black characters in the hieroglyphs (probably over 500 black humas in the drawings) and conclude that Egyptians were black, nothing could be further from the truth.
Study history and you will fine that the 2 major Colonies of Egypt were the Cushites (modern day Ethiopia) and the Nubians (modern day Sudan) and nearly 35% of the Egyptian population were composed of these people so obviously there will be a lot of drawings of black humans and that sort of things. Look at all the Pharaohs, non were black, sorry wiggs you are dead wrong.
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i am not talking about the different degrees of the black color but i mean that you for example are "dark" not very black but you still look african,.. the ancient egyptian were dark too,.. a little lighter than you in your avatar but didnt look like the african race "flat nose,.. curly hair, lips.. etc".. so you cant say the anicient egyptian before being colonized by any other race had come from the same source of the ancient nigerian or south africans.. totally different origin..
Dude. We all don't have big lips and flat noses and nappy hair. Ethiopians have thin noses, thinner lips and softer hair. They are still black...See my post to Ach above with pics of BLACK Pharaohs and Black Queens of Ancient Egypt.
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Look at all the Pharaohs, non were black, sorry wiggs you are dead wrong.
You're right bro. No Black Pharaohs. ::) ::) ::)
Maybe you need to research better brah.
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dude. We all don't have big lips and flat noses and nappy hair. Ethiopians have thin noses, thinner lips and softer hair. They are still black...See my post to Ach above with pics of BLACK Pharaohs and Black Queens of Ancient Egypt.
hahah these are not original shots..
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hahah these are not original shots..
So National Geographic and Discovery Channel are lying?...Interesting....lol
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Dude. We all don't have big lips and flat noses and nappy hair. Ethiopians have thin noses, thinner lips and softer hair. They are still black...See my post to Ach above with pics of BLACK Pharaohs and Black Queens of Ancient Egypt.
Wiggs, I'm not saying there wasn't a black population in ancient Egypt and I'm sure some of the royalty had black in them,bit this was not the majority. You are wrong but some of your argument hold a little ground.
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::) http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/05/photogalleries/tut_mummy/photo4.html
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anyhow, thanks for a good laugh wiggs. gotta go do some work now *you know, that thing you're allergic to.
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Dude. We all don't have big lips and flat noses and nappy hair. Ethiopians have thin noses, thinner lips and softer hair. They are still black...See my post to Ach above with pics of BLACK Pharaohs and Black Queens of Ancient Egypt.
What does that have to do with anything?
My point is if the evidence you provide of Egyptians being black are black people in drawings then why do those drawing consist of ONLY 15% of all the drawings found in Egypt? and easily explained sinse 30% of all people living in Egypt were black people from other parts of Africa, not to mention the Egyptians used the desert to strike with 'the element of surprised" so the army practically lived in the desert, of course their skin will be darkened due to the sun
Oh BTW lmao of the pic of the Pharaoh being black fighting the Nubians. I studied that particular battle and that pic and he is brown not black. The Egyptians spend 20 day in the dessert before sneaking upon the Nubians, hell a white boy will be near back after 20 days in the sun.
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Sherief
you look in great shape!
a tru lifetime natural BB
if you were ever to start using steroids, u'd explode!
great Arab genetics :)
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Sherief
you look in great shape!
a tru lifetime natural BB
if you were ever to start using steroids, u'd explode!
great Arab genetics :)
thanks, bro. I've been working hard.
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Listen up everyone. Wiggs picture in page 5 works against him, he said that Ramses the 2nd was black and said look at the pic, but the pic shows he is brown not black.
Now wiggs might say well brown is considered black but in this case it is not cause in the same pic (please look at it) there are actually black people to contrast the brown people. Every Egytologist on the planet knows that Egyptians drawing and hieroglyphs used the ''literal' Black color in their drawings to depict black people, I mean they made them black as black as the color gets.
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You're right bro. No Black Pharaohs. ::) ::) ::)
Maybe you need to research better brah.
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ya cause that is a real picture of a pharoah you ding dong cause they had camaras back then ::)
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;D
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So National Geographic and Discovery Channel are lying?...Interesting....lol
WTF they are biggest liars ever, welcome to earth my naive brother.
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Wiggs, I'm not saying there wasn't a black population in ancient Egypt and I'm sure some of the royalty had black in them,bit this was not the majority. You are wrong but some of your argument hold a little ground.
No Ach, you're wrong because now it is you guys changing your story not me. I've stayed consistent. Original Egyptians looking nothing like you or Sherif or Nassole. They looked like Negros. In various shades.
BTW, the Greek meaning of the term "Egyptian" means Burnt Faces....Not lightly toasted Ach. In addition, Kemet, Egypts name before Egypt, is actually an ethnic term being a derivative of the word "Khem" (Cham or Ham) which means "burnt" or "black."
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WTF they are biggest liars ever, welcome to earth my naive brother.
Now everyone is a liar and you're right....Riiiiight. So because there were no camera but just hieroglyphs they're not black....Riiiiight.
Oh yeah and Black and Brown....aka...Black. ::) Don't play semantics you'll lose.
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No Ach, you're wrong because now it is you guys changing your story not me. I've stayed consistent. Original Egyptians looking nothing like you or Sherif or Nassole. They looked like Negros. In various shades.
BTW, the Greek meaning of the term "Egyptian" means Burnt Faces....Not lightly toasted Ach. In addition, Kemet, Egypts name before Egypt, is actually an ethnic term being a derivative of the word "Khem" (Cham or Ham) which means "burnt" or "black."
Burnt face cause they lived near desert not cause they are black.
Bro let's debate civilized, post the list of evidence, you say that's been proven so let see the proof, let's get this show on the road, no one can touch me in Egyptology, not even sherief or big Ache (sorry guys lol :D)
Egyptians were not black people, that is a historical fact and the only ones who don't think so are blacks.
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No Ach, you're wrong because now it is you guys changing your story not me. I've stayed consistent. Original Egyptians looking nothing like you or Sherif or Nassole. They looked like Negros. In various shades.
BTW, the Greek meaning of the term "Egyptian" means Burnt Faces....Not lightly toasted Ach. In addition, Kemet, Egypts name before Egypt, is actually an ethnic term being a derivative of the word "Khem" (Cham or Ham) which means "burnt" or "black."
When the hell did I change my story dude?
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wiggs plz take your theories trying to prove your ancestors were pharaohs away from my thread about the great nasser and his journey to egypt >:(
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wiggs plz take your theories trying to prove your ancestors were pharaohs away from my thread about the great nasser and his journey to egypt >:(
tell us why nasser is in germany or i will continue to keep your thread derailed.
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Listen up everyone. Wiggs picture in page 5 works against him, he said that Ramses the 2nd was black and said look at the pic, but the pic shows he is brown not black.
Now wiggs might say well brown is considered black but in this case it is not cause in the same pic (please look at it) there are actually black people to contrast the brown people. Every Egytologist on the planet knows that Egyptians drawing and hieroglyphs used the ''literal' Black color in their drawings to depict black people, I mean they made them black as black as the color gets.
Don't know if you got the memo or read my other posts but we come in alot of different shades with different features. You know all the other races came from us so we do have the diversity in our genes. Not to hard too come up with. In sudan aka Nubia they would have been very dark like today in Egypt and Ethiopia lighter brown...Like today.
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Don't know if you got the memo or read my other posts but we come in alot of different shades with different features. You know all the other races came from us so we do have the diversity in our genes. Not to hard too come up with. In sudan aka Nubia they would have been very dark like today in Egypt and Ethiopia lighter brown...Like today.
all have national geographic boobs though. interesting.
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Now everyone is a liar and you're right....Riiiiight. So because there were no camera but just hieroglyphs they're not black....Riiiiight.
Oh yeah and Black and Brown....aka...Black. ::) Don't play semantics you'll lose.
I am not playing anything if there are brown people in a pic and in the same picture there are black people clearly the one drawing the picture wants to make a clear distinction and that is Egyptians are brown and Nubians are black.
Also Egyptians are closer to whit then brown but are mostly brown cause they are tanned, but history has proven that they are not black.
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his point is that nasser has no non-nefarious business in egypt. is he smuggling antiquities?
;D ;D ;D
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wiggs plz take your theories opinions trying to prove your ancestors were pharaohs away from my thread about the great nasser and his journey to egypt >:(
There is no theories as Wiggs has produced nothing yet. So we are waiting why you think Egytians are black. What proof? what evidence? we are waiting Wiggs
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Burnt face cause they lived near desert not cause they are black.
Bro let's debate civilized, post the list of evidence, you say that's been proven so let see the proof, let's get this show on the road, no one can touch me in Egyptology, not even sherief or big Ache (sorry guys lol :D)
Egyptians were not black people, that is a historical fact and the only ones who don't think so are blacks.
I'm not interested in debating you when I post a pic from an article done by National Geographic about Black Pharaohs that existed, A pic of reconstructed Nefertiti done by Discovery Channel, DNA test done last year on Cleopatra's sister revealing that she's black.
Nothing will be good enough for you. You are factually incorrect. It is not historical fact they weren't black...BTW, you being a man of the Bible, the Bible shows that Moses was Black among many other people that get portrayed as Euros. Nice try though.
No one can tough you in Egyptology? I destroyed you with one pic and then you called National Geographic liars. LOL.
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I am not playing anything if there are brown people in a pic and in the same picture there are black people clearly the one drawing the picture wants to make a clear distinction and that is Egyptians are brown and Nubians are black.
Also Egyptians are closer to whit then brown but are mostly brown cause they are tanned, but history has proven that they are not black.
Did you not read a fucking word I wrote? Blacks come in numerous shades. Nubians were black as fuck so rightfully so they'd be depicted that way. Other blacks eg. Kobe Bryant, Option D. That's brown but we are all considered black.
You're so full of shit I don't know where to begin.
WTF is this shit? "Also Egyptians are closer to whit then brown but are mostly brown cause they are tanned, but history has proven that they are not black."
Really they're tanned huh? Got proof? I have yet to see any links, sources or anything. Just opinions backed by nothing.
Really? Show me where history has proven they are not black. I want sourced historical documents (Bible is acceptable also).
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Wiggs' revisionist "history" is as suspect as his curriculum vitae
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Sherief
you look in great shape!
a tru lifetime natural BB
if you were ever to start using steroids, u'd explode!
great Arab genetics :)
thx bro.
still 2 more kilos to lose 8)
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There is no theories as Wiggs has produced nothing yet. So we are waiting why you think Egytians are black. What proof? what evidence? we are waiting Wiggs
You clearly have reading comprehension issues.
Sherief, you are correct. I apologize.
My point has been made and I defended it easily against a gaggle of nimcumpoots that could have easily disproven me, yet not a single thing. Nothing nadda. And they all can't even keep a straight story between them.
I'll be waiting on those docs OTH...
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I'm not interested in debating you when I post a pic from an article done by National Geographic about Black Pharaohs that existed, A pic of reconstructed Nefertiti done by Discovery Channel, DNA test done last year on Cleopatra's sister revealing that she's black.
Nothing will be good enough for you. You are factually incorrect. It is not historical fact they weren't black...BTW, you being a man of the Bible, the Bible shows that Moses was Black among many other people that get portrayed as Euros. Nice try though.
No one can tough you in Egyptology? I destroyed you with one pic and then you called National Geographic liars. LOL.
The Bible does not show Moses as black, that is a lie He my of had dark skin cause he spent 40 years in the desert.
post the link to dna finding Nefertiti as black. A pic in national geographic proves something historically? wow
I have backed up my claim and that is only a small fraction of hieroglyphs show black people in Egypt and the bulk of the drawing showed otherwise.
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Wiggs' revisionist "history" is as suspect as his curriculum vitae
If there's anything that's been revised, it's been by your people powder...
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If there's anything that's been revised, it's been by your people powder...
Powder? Seriously? Why are you so angry?
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The Bible does not show Moses as black, that is a lie He my of had dark skin cause he spent 40 years in the desert.
post the link to dna finding Nefertiti as black. A pic in national geographic proves something historically? wow
I have backed up my claim and that is only a small fraction of hieroglyphs show black people in Egypt and the bulk of the drawing showed otherwise.
LOL....Now he "MAY" have had darkskin from travelling in the desert 40 years. LOLOLOL....Good one.
You backed up nothing. What you said isn't a claim it's fact. I destroyed your argument which you failed to address twice now. That being we come in various shades. Always have always will. Black, chocolate, lightskin and various other shades and features with or without other races influence. Those people you call brown are Black people that are brown. ::)
You have a knack for making up stories when history doesn't suit you're way of thinking...Darkskin from traveling in the desert for 40 years. LOLOLOL. He was already black.
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Did you not read a fucking word I wrote? Blacks come in numerous shades. Nubians were black as fuck so rightfully so they'd be depicted that way. Other blacks eg. Kobe Bryant, Option D. That's brown but we are all considered black.
You're so full of shit I don't know where to begin.
WTF is this shit? "Also Egyptians are closer to whit then brown but are mostly brown cause they are tanned, but history has proven that they are not black."
Really they're tanned huh? Got proof? I have yet to see any links, sources or anything. Just opinions backed by nothing.
Really? Show me where history has proven they are not black. I want sourced historical documents (Bible is acceptable also).
Calm down bro, no need to get upset. Of course they are tanned cause they spend a lot of time under the sun.
And i get it that there are many shades of black people but there are many shades of white people to and the Egyptians are a brown shade of white people not black. You have produced nothing and I slaughtered your argument by telling everyone here that blacks in hierogyphs only composed of a tiny fraction of the hieroglyphs, that ends all arguments here. Also slaughtered you by pointing out back people in the pic of Ramses
No need to get mad just cause you are mis informed on Egyptian being black. No proffessor in any University on the planet agrees with you
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Powder? Seriously? Why are you so angry?
What happened to going to work? ::) ::) ::)
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tell us why nasser is in germany or i will continue to keep your thread derailed.
Nasser's primary reason for visiting Cairo was to meet President Morsi to discuss the [possiblity of a National Nasser Day in honour of Nasser's achievements
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What happened to going to work? ::) ::) ::)
i am at the office... unfortunately we have an internet connection and you're quite entertaining. this will cost me tonight though. asshole.
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Calm down bro, no need to get upset. Of course they are tanned cause they spend a lot of time under the sun.
And i get it that there are many shades of black people but there are many shades of white people to and the Egyptians are a brown shade of white people not black. You have produced nothing and I slaughtered your argument by telling everyone here that blacks in hierogyphs only composed of a tiny fraction of the hieroglyphs, that ends all arguments here. Also slaughtered you by pointing out back people in the pic of Ramses
No need to get mad jut cause you are mis informed on Egyptian being lack. No proffessor in any University on the planet agrees with you
So your argument has want from bad to worse. Now Egyptians are white? Is that why National Geographic showed black pharaohs that never existed according to you?
White Egyptians....LOLOLOLOL. I still waiting on sourced documents...
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i am at the office... unfortunately we have an internet connection and you're quite entertaining. this will cost me tonight though. asshole.
Way to be productive. I'm not here for your entertainment. Get to work...SERF.
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President Morsi and Dr adel Fahim El sayed (IFBB Egypt president) are good friends and i believe Dr adel Fahim El sayed proposed the idea
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President Morsi and Dr adel Fahim El sayed (IFBB Egypt president) are good friends and i believe Dr adel Fahim El sayed proposed the idea
what the fuck are you yammering about, toolbag?
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Way to be productive. I'm not here for your entertainment. Get to work...SERF.
I might be a SERF, but I get to do cooler shit than you do because of it.
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I might be a SERF, but I get to do cooler shit than you do because of it.
I'm happy for you brah. Pat on the back. Hit me up on your lunch break. xoxo Wiggy.
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BTW, the Greek meaning of the term "Egyptian" means Burnt Faces....Not lightly toasted Ach. In addition, Kemet, Egypts name before Egypt, is actually an ethnic term being a derivative of the word "Khem" (Cham or Ham) which means "burnt" or "black."
see i told you would get to the greek connection sooner or later
keep reading niggs
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So your argument has want from bad to worse. Now Egyptians are white? Is that why National Geographic showed black pharaohs that never existed according to you?
White Egyptians....LOLOLOLOL. I still waiting on sourced documents...
Bro how are you waiting for something? Professors, historians and Egytologist all over the world are in agreement with me. I am not claiming anything, I am on par with the world's perception.
You are the one claiming it has been proven when Universities all over the world are still teaching that Egyptians were brown and closer to white. So you are the liar that says it has been proven
The definition of ''it has been proven" means that it is being taught by professors in school, perhaps you have a different definition of ''it has been proven'' your words not mine.
My professor did not ever once even hint that Egyptians were black, he would laugh at you.
'It has been proven'' by who? to who? When? Where? wtf ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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This question very often, quickly becomes muddled in confusion. Both Ancient and Modern Egyptians were/are Arab Semitic White (65% of Egypt’s population) as shall be demonstrated shortly. The “Hamitic theory” has been proven wrong and outdated by DNA(haploid testing) as well as anthropological testing. The Hamites have been described from the whole spectrum of Black to White(both Semitic and Indo European Aryan) to any admixture. About 30% is Black(mostly Nubian, some Nilotic), Black/Arab admixture-the Berbers and Moors are essentially Arabs with 8-15% Black heritage, and 5% all other ethnicities. The confusion comes about because Afro centrists want to claim the Black Nubians/people of Kemet were Ancient Egyptians. Ancient Nubia encompassed the lower Southwestern corner of present day Egypt (annexed in 1520 B.C.), the remainder being present day Sudan. Additionally, there were Black Nubian Pharaohs for an extremely short time frame from 800 – 700 B.C.. Many of the Pharaohs do exhibit admixture – Black/ Arab mix as would be expected when two or more ethnicities are in close contact. Interestingly, National Geographic sponsored three professional team – American, Egyptian, and French to produce busts from x- rays of King Tut’s mummy. The Egyptians and French were told whom they were working on, the Americans were not. Remarkably, the three teams came up with very similar looking busts, all three claiming King Tut was Caucasian:
http://www.guardians.net/hawass/Press_Release_05-05_Tut_Reconstruction.htm
I will part with the experts here. My opinion is, King Tut appears of mixed Black/Arab heritage for the following reasons-he demonstrates a pronounced external occipital protuberance producing the egg-shaped head from a side profile, almond shaped eyes, pronounced high cheek bones, scoop shoveled, teeth, and, slightly fuller lips than most Caucasian – all Black features. He demonstrates a high forehead, pronounced, narrow nose, lips thinner than the average Black, oval head structure from a front profile, and a recessed jaw (most Blacks exhibit non medical prognathism – jaw slightly pronounced) – White features. In drawing, statues, and busts, he is portrayed any where from medium brown to Black. He was probably of the exact same heritage as Anwar Sadat – Egyptian Arab Semitic White father-Sudanese/ Nubian/ Kemet mother-he denied this until shortly before his death. He always claimed Arab Semitic White.The Coptics where Christians of all ethnicities in Egypt. Generally, Arabs have an olive colored(golden brown) skin tone and dark hair and eyes. About 20% fall in the Gamut of Northern Europeans, UNMIXED. In a climate like Egypt, sun exposure can make Arabs even darker. Egyptian wall drawings portray many ethnicities as exhibited by different skin tones and facial features.
Incidentally, for those who claim Cleopatra was Black, thousands of busts, drawings, paintings, and other likenesses(i.e.-coins) of her, along with written descriptions of her, from that time period, exist.One look and you can tell she is NOT Black(did not say she was Semitic White/White either – she is Greek(Indo European Aryan White), but definitely, not all, if any, Black either), although she may possibly have some Black ancestry. Her half sister was half White (Greek) – half Black.
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it's a commonly accepted theory among dna researchers that egyptians and all north africans are actually of asian descent just like the native americans. happened when all the continents were joined together in gondwanaland.
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The scholars seem to agree: Cleopatra was the last in a line of Ptolemies–Macedonian Greeks(Whites)–who ruled Egypt from the death of Alexander the Great in 305 B.C. until Antony’s defeat in the battle of Actium in 31 B.C. The Ptolemies, as was the custom, were an incestuous, intermarrying peoples (to preserve the royal bloodline),also often having relations with the courtiers and concubines who filled their palaces. Many of the children born of these unions were given a place in the royal lineage despite being illegitimate, the secret unspoken.
Many believe that Cleopatra’s father was the product of such a union – his mother may have been a concubine from Nubia(Black) or Alexandria(White). Lending credence to this theory is the fact that Cleopatra’s bond to the people of Egypt seemed greater than those of her Ptolemic ancestors, who aligned themselves culturally and linguistically with Greece.
MODERN ETHNIC SAMPLINGS OF ARAB (SEMITIC WHITES) COMPARED TO BLACKS
Arab (Semitic Whites) Americans: Lebanese heritage: Ralph Nader, Jamie Farr (Klinger on Mash), and the late Danny Thomas.
Arab (Semitic White) Americans: Egyptian heritage: Dina Powell, Rami Malek
compared to:
MIXED: half Arab (Semitic White) – Egyptian/ half Black (Sudanese/ Nubian/ Kemetian) : Anwar Sadat
Black Americans: Bill Cosby, Denzel Washington, and, Will Smith
Clearly, you can tell the sets of men and one woman, do NOT fit in the same ethnic classification. The late Anwar Sadat, was half Arab (Semitic White) – Egyptian and half Black (Sudanese), many of the same features attributed to King Tut, whom most likely, was also biethnic.
When Blacks and Egyptians (Arab Semitic Whites) intermarry, Black traits do dominate (i.e. – Anwar Sadat – (Egyptian Arab Semitic White Father – Black Sudanese mother)).
WHAT GENETIC EVIDENCE IS THERE?
A sampling of ethnicities in Egypt:
http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/2008/07/22/the-faces-of-ancient-egypt/
The following link also shows the DNA pattern of Ancient and Modern Egyptians whom were Arab Semitic White, NOT Black or even Hamitic(long outdated and proven wrong):
http://muse.jhu.edu/journals/history_in_africa/v032/32.1keita.pdf
Arabs have the following Haplotypes F, J1(most common & J2), L3, and V-most common among Ancient(mummy DNA testing) and Modern Egyptians, signifying they are Arab Semitic White.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_J_(Y-DNA)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famous_haplogroup_members
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_V_(mtDNA)
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3659/is_200606/ai_n17175647/
Bottom line, Blacks and Arabs are two different ethnicities ANY way you cut it – genetically and by anthropological measurements.
J1 one only identifies a White person as Arab Semitic versus Indo European Aryan, but Arabs have all the other Caucasian markers. Only those whom are MIXED have J1, White and Black haplomarkers.
There is proof, of course, of admixtures to. Afro centrists often attempt to portray the Nubians as the above peoples against anthropological measurements and DNA testing(haploid markers). Genetic flow indicates a flux out of, and, BACK into Africa. Ethiopia and Sudan are each 1/3 Arab Semitic White – admixtures of Black/Arab gives these peoples a more or less Caucasian looking features. The presence of haplomarker J1 in many of the Somalis and Ethiopians negates the theory of Caucasian features falling in the ethnic variation of Blacks and indicates an Black/ Arab Semitic White admixture.The further South into Sub Sahara, the stronger the Black genetic influence and the further North into North Africa, the stronger the Arab Semitic White genetic influence. In between, exists the admixtures, not just Arab Semitic White, but all ethnicities.
Because peoples originate in Africa, does NOT mean they were Black. Two forms of Homo sapiens(modern humans are a subclassification, Homo sapiens sapiens), both extinct, existed at the same time- Idaltu (had Negroid/ Black features), and, Cro Magnon (had Caucasoid/ White features). Personally, I still favor the old theory, that the ethnicities had different origins at the same time, otherwise, the ethnicities all would have shown gradual changes instead of clearly different ethnicities whom show some overlapping of ethnicities/ characteristics:
ETHNIC HAPLOMARKERS
Caucasoid – E (only subclade E1b1b is a Caucasoid marker-all other sublades of E are Negroid haplomarkers), F(Semites), H, I, J (Semites-1 & 2), K, L3 (Semites), T, U, V (Semites), W, X, Y
Mongoloid(anthropologists now include American Indians (Red) and Malaysians (Brown) ethnicities in this group – C, D, F, G, O, Q, S- American Indians also have A, B, and, X
Negroid – A, B , E (except for subclade E1b1b which is a Caucasoid haplomarker), L1 & L2, M & N – all groups have these, but certain subclades are restricted to Blacks – presence of N in Blacks is not clearly defined and is possibly considered due to genetic back flow rather than present normally
M, N – is present in ALL ethnicities, but certain subclades are restricted to only Blacks
P, R, Z – Caucasoid and Mongoloids only, not Blacks
E1a and E2 are found almost exclusively in Africa, and only E1b1b is observed in significant frequencies in Europe and western Asia in addition to Africa. Most SUB-SAHARAN AFRICANS belong to subclades of E OTHER than E1b1b, while MOST NON-AFRICANS who belong to haplogroup E belong to its E1b1b subclade. Greeks and Romans have Indo European Aryan White DNA (haploid) markers and the Ancient and Modern Egyptians have Arab Semitic White DNA(haploid) markers- subclade E1b1b. Arabs in North Africa are Semitic White, and, technically, can be called White, not, Black, Africans. Greece and Rome are a part of Europe, so Greeks and Romans would be called Indo European Aryan White. According to Wikipedia, “Most Sub-Saharan Africans belong to subclades of E other than E1b1b, while most non-Africans who belong to haplogroup E belong to its E1b1b subclade.” (Citing Fulvio Cruciani et al, Phylogeographic Analysis of Haplogroup E1b1b (E-M215) Y Chromosomes Reveals Multiple Migratory Events Within and Out Of Africa, Am. J. Hum. Genet, p. 74)
The first lineage to branch off from Mitochondrial Eve is L0. This haplogroup is found in high proportions among the San of Southern Africa, the Sandawe of East Africa. It is also found among the Mbuti people. These groups branched off early in human history and have remained relatively genetically isolated since then. Haplogroups L1, L2 and L3 are descendents of L0 and are largely confined to Africa. The macro haplogroups M and N, which are the lineages of the rest of the world outside Africa, descend from L3.
Scientists refer to L0 as the first offshoot of Mitochondrial Eve, estimated to have lived in East Africa approximately 150,000 to 170,000 years ago. Haplogroup L0 consist of five main branches (L0a, L0b, L0d, L0f, L0k). Four of them were originally classified into haplogroup L1 as L1a, L1d, L1f, and L1k.
Some scientists used to refer to L0 as an extinct haplogroup, but since then scientists have identified haplogroups L0-L6 as existing in living humans.
The formerly named L1 branches (L1d, L1k, L1a, L1f) have been re-classified into haplogroup L0 as L0d, L0k, L0a and L0f. Haplogroup L1 is believed to have first appeared in East Africa approximately 150,000 to 170,000 years ago. Haplogroup L1 is a daughter of Mitochondrial Eve like her sister haplogroup L0. L1 and sisters haplogroups L2, L3, L4, L5, and L6 are distinguished from L0 by genetic markers at 182, 1048, 4312, 6185, 11914, and 12007.
It is found most commonly in the Sub – Saharan Africa. It reaches its highest frequency in the !Kung people at 69%.
L1 has two branches- L1b and L1c. L1b is most frequent in West Africa. L1c is more common amongst the Bantu and Semi-Bantu speakers of west-central tropical Africa.
Haplogroup L0a is most prevalent in South – East African populations (25% in Mozambique). Among Guineans, it has a frequency between 1% and 5%, with the Balanta group showing increased frequency of about 11%. Haplogroup L0a has a Paleolithic time depth of about 33,000 years and likely reached Guinea between 10,000 and 4,000 years ago. It also is often seen in the Mbuti and Biaka-pygmies.
Haplogroups L0b is found mostly amongst West Africans.
Haplogroup L0f is present in relatively small frequencies in East Africa.
Haplogroups L0d and L0k are typical for Khoisan tribes in South Africa.
Indeed, not only were many women alive at the same time as Mitochondrial Eve but many of them have living descendants through their sons. While the mtDNA of these women is gone, their Nuclear genes are present in today’s population.
What distinguishes Mitochondrial Eve (and her matrilineal ancestors) from all her female contemporaries is that she has a purely matrilineal line of descent to all humans alive today, whereas all her female contemporaries with descendants alive today have at least one male in every line of descent. Because mitochondrial DNA is only passed through matrilineal descent, all humans alive today have mitochondrial DNA that is traceable back to Mitochondrial Eve.
Furthermore, it can be shown that every female contemporary of Mitochondrial Eve either has no living descendant today or is an ancestor to all living people. Starting with ‘the’ most recent common ancestor (MRCA) at around 3,000 years ago, one can trace all ancestors of the MRCA backward in time. At every ancestral generation, more and more ancestors (via both paternal and maternal lines) of MRCA are found. These ancestors are by definition also common ancestors of all living people. Eventually, there will be a point in the past where all humans can be divided into two groups: those who left no descendants today and those who are common ancestors of all living humans today. This point in time is termed the identical ancestors point and is estimated to be between 5,000 and 15,000 years ago. Since Mitochondrial Eve is estimated to have lived more than a hundred thousand years before the identical ancestors point, every woman contemporary to her is either not an ancestor of any living people, or a common ancestor of all living people.
Mitochondrial organelles, which contain mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA), are passed only from mother to offspring. A comparison of DNA sequences from mtDNA in a population reveals a molecular phylogeny. Unlike mtDNA, which is outside the nucleus, genes containing nuclear DNA become recombined after being inherited from both parents, and therefore we can be statistically less certain about nuclear DNA origins than we can for mtDNA, which is only inherited from the mother. mtDNA also mutates at a higher rate compared to nuclear DNA, so it gives researchers a more useful, magnified view of the diversity present in a population, and its history.
Just as mitochondria are inherited matrilineally, Y-chromosomes are inherited patrilineally. Thus it is possible to apply the same principles outlined above to men. The common patrilineal ancestor of all humans alive today has been dubbed Y-chromosomal Adam. Importantly, the genetic evidence suggests that the most recent patriarch of all humanity is much more recent than the most recent matriarch, suggesting that ‘Adam’ and ‘Eve’ were not alive at the same time. While ‘Eve’ is believed to be alive 140,000 years ago, ‘Adam’ lived only 60,000 years ago.
Homo sapiens is assumed to have speciated from Homo heidelbergensis in the period of 200,000 – 160,000. The fact that Mitochondrial Eve happens to be dated to precisely this period has been taken as evidence of a population bottleneck (e.g. – Toba catastrophe theory) giving rise to the human species. There are, however, many ways such family trees can be constructed. A tree can be constructed based on any gene, not just the mitochondrial DNA. When different such trees including the mtDNA tree are compared, no population bottleneck is found because different trees show different coalescent points. The inconsistencies between coalescent points indicate that there had been numerous gene interchanges between population groups around the world, even after the first exodus out of Africa. This idea forms the basis of Alan Templeton’s ‘Out of Africa Again and Again’ theory.
The Mitochondrial DNA provides another support for the Out of Africa hypothesis in the form of gene diversity. One finding not subject to interpretation is that the greatest diversity of mitochondrial DNA sequences exists among Africans. This diversity is believed to have accumulated because humans have been living longer in Africa than anywhere. Family trees (or “phylogenies”) constructed on the basis of mitochondrial DNA comparisons show that the living humans whose mitochondrial lineages branched earliest from the tree (L0) are prevalent among the San and the Mbuti people. The subsequent branches of L1, L2 and L3 are also largely confined to Africa, while only the macrogroups M and N, descended from L3, participated in the ancient migration(s) out of Africa.
The mutations defining macro-haplogroup CR (all Y haplogroups except A and B) predate the “Out of Africa” migration, its descendent macro-group DE being confined to Africa. The mutations that distinguish Haplogroup C from all other descendants of CR have occurred some 60,000 years ago, shortly after the first Out of Africa migration.
Haplogroup F originated some 45,000 years ago, either in North Africa (in which case it would point to a second wave of out-of-Africa migration) or in South Asia. More than 90% of males not native to Africa are descended in direct male line from the first bearer of haplogroup F.
Some 70 millennia ago, a part of the bearers of mitochondrial haplogroup L3 migrated from East Africa into the Near East.
Some scientists believe that only a few people left Africa in a single migration that went on to populate the rest of the world. It has been estimated that from a population of 2,000 to 5,000 in Africa, only a small group of possibly 150 people crossed the Red Sea. This is because, of all the lineages present in Africa, only the daughters of one lineage, L3, are found outside Africa. Had there been several migrations one would expect more than one African lineage outside Africa. L3’s daughters, the M and N lineages, are found in very low frequencies in Africa (although haplogroup M1 is very ancient and diversified in North and Northeast Africa) and appear to be recent arrivals. A possible explanation is that these mutations occurred in East Africa shortly before the exodus and by the founder effect became the dominant haplogroups after the exodus from Africa. Alternatively, the mutations may have arisen shortly after the exodus from Africa.
Other scientists have proposed a Multiple Dispersal Model, in which there were two migrations out of Africa, one across the Red Sea travelling along the coastal regions to India (the Coastal Route), which would be represented by Haplogroup M. Another group of migrants with Haplogroup N followed the Nile from East Africa, heading northwards and crossing into Asia through the Sinai. This group then branched in several directions, some moving into Europe and others heading east into Asia. This hypothesis attempts to explain why Haplogroup N is predominant in Europe and why Haplogroup M is absent in Europe. Evidence of the coastal migration is hypothesized to have been destroyed by the rise in sea levels during the Holocene epoch. Alternatively, a small European founder population that initially expressed both Haplogroup M and N could have lost Haplogroup M through random genetic drift resulting from a bottleneck (i.e. – a founder effect).
From the Near East, these populations spread east to South Asia by 50,000 years ago, and on to Australia by 40,000 years ago, Homo sapiens for the first time colonizing territory never reached by Homo erectus. Europe was reached by Cro-Magnon some 40 millennia ago. East Asia (Korea, Japan) was reached by 30,000 years ago. It is disputed whether subsequent migration to North America took place around 30 millennia ago, or only considerably later, around 14,000 years ago.
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The group that crossed the Red Sea traveled along the coastal route around the coast of Arabia and Persia until reaching India, which appears to be the first major settling point. M is found in high frequencies along the southern coastal regions of Pakistan and India and it has the greatest diversity in India, indicating that it is here where the mutation may have occurred. 60% of the Indian population belong to Haplogroup M. The indigenous people of the Andaman Islands also belong to the M lineage. The Andamanese are thought to be offshoots of some of the earliest inhabitants in Asia because of their long isolation from mainland Asia. They are evidence of the coastal route of early settlers that extends from India along the coasts of Thailand and Indonesia all the way to Papua New Guinea. Since M is found in high frequencies in highlanders from New Guinea as well, and both the Andamanese and New Guineans have dark skin and Afro-textured hair, some scientists believe they are all part of the same wave of migrants who departed across the Red Sea ~ 60,000 years ago in the Great Coastal Migration. Notably, the findings of Harding et al.(2000, p 1355) show that, at least with regard to dark skin color, the haplotype background of Papua New Guineans at MC1R (one of a number of genes involved in melanin production) is identical to that of Africans (barring a single silent mutation). Thus, although these groups are distinct from Africans at other loci (due to drift, bottlenecks, etc), it is evident that selection for the dark skin color trait likely continued (at least at MC1R) following the exodus. This would support the hypothesis that suggests that the original migrants from Africa resembled pre-exodus Africans (at least in skin color), and that the present day remnants of this ancient phenotype can be seen among contemporary Africans, Andamanese and New Guineans. Others suggest that their physical resemblance to Africans could be the result of convergent evolution.
From Arabia to India the proportion of haplogroup M increases eastwards: in eastern India, M outnumbers N by a ratio of 3:1. However, crossing over into East Asia, Haplogroup N reappears as the dominant lineage. M is predominant in South East Asia but amongst Indigenous Australians N reemerges as the more common lineage. This discontinuous distribution of Haplogroup N from Europe to Australia can be explained by founder effects and population bottlenecks.
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Hair samples from several mummies indicate Caucasian ethnicity-the following links arw helpful:
http://www.north-of-africa.com/article.php3?id_article=210
http://www.optics.rochester.edu/workgroups/cml/opt307/spr06/xue/project.htm
http://iluvsa.blogspot.com/2009/04/egyptian-mummies-with-blond-brown-and.html
http://www.fbi.gov/hq/lab/fsc/backissu/jan2004/research/2004_01_research01b.htm
http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/racial-differences-in-scalp-hair/
http://guywhite.wordpress.com/2009/01/08/egyptian-mummies-with-blond-brown-and-red-hair/
http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/mummies-and-mummy-hair-from-ancient-egypt/
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Genetics of Ancient Egyptians
l Scientists at the University of Cairo tested DNA from the remains of pyramid workers from 2600 BC, and found that the DNA of ancient Egyptians matches that of modern Egyptians. That is, the people living in Egypt now are essentially the same as the people living there thousands of years ago. (Read an excerpt from PBS’s Secrets of the Pharaohs)
l Borgognini-Tarli and G. Paoli, 1982. The ABO blood type frequencies of ancient Egyptians showed no signs of differing significantly from that of present-day Egyptians. According to the authors, “the blood group distribution obtained for Asiut, Gebelen and Aswan necropoles shows resemblances with the present leucoderm population of Egypt and particularly with its more ‘conservative’ fraction (the Copts, MOURANT et al., 1976).” –
http://www.geocities.com/enbp/pbs.html
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HELPFUL LINKS
http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/2008/07/22/the-faces-of-ancient-egypt/
http://www.geocities.com/enbp/pbs.html
http://muse.jhu.edu/journals/history_in_africa/v032/32.1keita.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Gates
http://www.catchpenny.org/race.html
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/RaceOfAncientEgypt.pdf
http://naturescorner.wordpress.com/2008/12/13/where-the-ancient-egyptians-black-or-white/
http://connection.ebscohost.com/content/article/1030876701.html;jsessionid=F297D4F420700ED29340B14CB
http://www.egypt-tehuti.org/articles/egypt-bible-similarities.html
About the Author: Clyde Nassif is an international lecturer and Holistic Consultant with a client base in Houston, TX. He is a noted author of many blogs on health and personal issues across the Internet. He does both training on personal (in-home appointments only) as well as group sessions. Submit any questions you may have or to schedule a session(two week notice needed) to :
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This info above is from all universities and a million experts world wide so where is the ''it has been proven'' where is the ''it is a known fact'' cause clearly no one knows about it or no on teaches this in schools.
I can agree to disagree with you but it is a fact that your theory has not been accepted by any Egyptologist, professors or Univeristies and it is not taught at school or by anyone teaching history and that is a fact and you have to agree with that.
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Only on Getbig does a thread about Nasser turn into this.
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wow, sheriff and ach must have upped the dosage and fatburners 3X at least
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lol why you wear a beanie on your stupid head indoor, trying to imitate nasser? This is so retarded/childish.
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lol why you wear a beanie on your stupid head indoor, trying to imitate nasser? This is so retarded/childish.
epic Sherief obsession ;D
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at huge nasser's house in egypt 8)..
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;D
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:D
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;)
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huge nasser going for the healthy look ;D
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some more..
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8)
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The Fanny Packs are a great touch ;D Give huge Nasser my best!!!
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The Fanny Packs are a great touch ;D Give huge Nasser my best!!!
yes i was trying to imitate huge nasser :D
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Did you get to peek inside Nasser's fannypack?
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Did you get to peek inside Nasser's fannypack?
:-X
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what an honour you got to train with Nasser!
what is the name of your gym- it looks very good!
both you + Nasser look in great shape
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the pic with Nasser standing below the domed building- what place is that?
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the pic with Nasser standing below the domed building- what place is that?
Big Ach's house that he kindly let them take a picture in front of.
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Excellent photo's Sheriff, did Nasser meet the German Shepard?
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at huge nasser's house in egypt 8)..
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=460545.0;attach=507309;image)
Must have a lot of flies there..
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some suspicious activities going on here.
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what an honour you got to train with Nasser!
what is the name of your gym- it looks very good!
both you + Nasser look in great shape
sure and beside the honor of training with one of the legends it was very useful to know live his training method..
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the pic with Nasser standing below the domed building- what place is that?
i am a member in a big social and sports club called "the shooting club".. it has 3 branches in cairo.. yesterday we went to the smallest branch to train in its gym because i was at nasser's home and it's very close to him.. very small gym with few free weights but was ok to do a quick workout..
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Excellent photo's Sheriff, did Nasser meet the German Shepard?
thx bro. no because he hasnt come to my house yet..
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Must have a lot of flies there..
i didnt see any..
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thx bro. no because he hasnt come to my house yet..
i would be reluctant to invite nasir to my house too.
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i would be reluctant to invite nasir to my house too.
whatever he will refuse your invitation in all cases :-X
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Nasser must have been saving up the pennies from his 3 jobs to be able to afford the trip out to egypt
his place in cairo looks very nice :)
did you meet Nasser's parents too?
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i am a member in a big social and sports club called "the shooting club".. it has 3 branches in cairo.. yesterday we went to the smallest branch to train in its gym because i was at nasser's home and it's very close to him.. very small gym with few free weights but was ok to do a quick workout..
The gym at the main shooting club is actually lots of fun to train at. I'm a member there but only trained there twice! Gezira too... they have that 400 lbs tricep cable pull down machine ;D But Normally I was at Golds - saw Big Nasser there once!
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wtf is nasir doing in egypt so often?
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The gym at the main shooting club is actually lots of fun to train at. I'm a member there but only trained there twice! Gezira too... they have that 400 lbs tricep cable pull down machine ;D But Normally I was at Golds - saw Big Nasser there once!
there is a Golds gym in egypt?
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Nasser must have been saving up the pennies from his 3 jobs to be able to afford the trip out to egypt
his place in cairo looks very nice :)
did you meet Nasser's parents too?
sure man.. my family and i had lunch with all of them last week.. yesterday i went to nasser alone because we wanted to train but sure i saw his parents again..
ya his place is nice and expensive,.. i remember his father told me before it was bought by nasser as a present to his loving parents.. and as you know they dont live in egypt,.. it's just for them to stay when they visit egypt every 2-3 years or so..
and some assholes here really believe nasser doesnt have money..
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i didnt see any..
What is up with the flyswatters then?
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sure man.. my family and i had lunch with all of them last week.. yesterday i went to nasser alone because we wanted to train but sure i saw his parents again..
ya his place is nice and expensive,.. i remember his father told me before it was bought by nasser as a present to his loving parents.. and as you know they dont live in egypt,.. it's just for them to stay when they visit egypt every 2-3 years or so..
and some assholes here really believe nasser doesnt have money..
i believe he has money...
acquired by smuggling egypt's cultural heritage out of the country. please ask nasser to pm me with the items he has for sale- i am always in the market for antiques.
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The gym at the main shooting club is actually lots of fun to train at. I'm a member there but only trained there twice! Gezira too... they have that 400 lbs tricep cable pull down machine ;D But Normally I was at Golds - saw Big Nasser there once!
they are upgrading the gym of the main branch now.. check it when you come..
i trained at golds before and sure it was great but i like more the atmosphere of the old hardcore gym ;D.. you wont believe me when saying i hate the fact that they are upgrading it now >:(
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there is a Golds gym in egypt?
Yeah there are like 4 of them! But its not cheap.... like the cheapest one there is 600 dollars a year!
For the longest time I was a member of the one right on the Nile, had a great view:
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there is a Golds gym in egypt?
a lot of branches man..
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wtf is nasir doing in egypt so often?
so often??.. i think his previous visit was about 10 years ago..
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What is up with the flyswatters then?
just for the shot :D
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so often??.. i think his previous visit was about 10 years ago..
big ach just said he saw him training in the golds gym in egypt... since big ach lives in the US, it's strange that on the rare occasion he's in egypt he just happens to run into nassir
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Yeah there are like 4 of them! But its not cheap.... like the cheapest one there is 600 dollars a year!
For the longest time I was a member of the one right on the Nile, had a great view:
(http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1379/1244296824_2503e37ed5_z.jpg)
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/-PBz-AllQ_iI/SLWuYRpYi1I/AAAAAAAAAGE/sAB0UEp7D6M/DSCN0049.JPG)
that's a sick gym. looks huge
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wtf is nasir doing in egypt so often?
Uuuh... considering Nasser is half Egyptian.... maybe he is visiting family or friends there?
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big ach just said he saw him training in the golds gym in egypt... since big ach lives in the US, it's strange that on the rare occasion he's in egypt he just happens to run into nassir
ok if it's very important to you i will ask him when was his previous visit.. but i am sure it was more than 5 years ago..
as for your conclusion mr. CIA,.. i think some of big ach's visits are kinda long because a lot of his family are there so it's not that rare coincidence..
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big ach just said he saw him training in the golds gym in egypt... since big ach lives in the US, it's strange that on the rare occasion he's in egypt he just happens to run into nassir
I saw him in Egypt in 2006. So it was sometime ago!
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Uuuh... considering Nasser is half Egyptian.... maybe he is visiting family or friends there?
his parents live in europe
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I saw him in Egypt in 2006. So it was sometime ago!
i think this was his previous visit but will ask him..
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his parents live in europe
Does family only consist of parents? What about aunts? uncles? cousins? wives, mistresses, girlfriends, sex slaves? ;D
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so he visits once every seven years (supposedly) and yet has a house there. intredasting.
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his parents live in europe
most of his father's relatives are in egypt..
so you think it's not important to see one's uncles and cousins??.. also they love egypt itself and with all the shit there it stills has a lot of beautiful things and places to miss when you are out..
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so he visits once every seven years (supposedly) and yet has a house there. intredasting.
I haven't been to Egypt in a few years, and I have a house there ;D
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so he visits once every seven years (supposedly) and yet has a house there. intredasting.
this is what i was saying in a previous posts he bough this house as a present to his parents to stay in every 2-3 years when they visit egypt and for himself when he comes every 6 years and 10 months and 3 days :-X
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I haven't been to Egypt for a few years, and I have a house there ;D
yeah, well, i do too (not in egypt, but wherever some of my ancestors are from) - because, like you, i inherited. nasser supposedly bought the house. you know how much it costs to live in san diego and you can guess how much his SUPPOSED income is/was. something isn't adding up unless they sell houses for nothing in egypt. i think some interesting things are happening.
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yeah, well, i do too (not in egypt, but wherever some of my ancestors are from) - because, like you, i inherited. nasser supposedly bought the house. you know how much it costs to live in san diego and you can guess how much his income is/was. something isn't adding up unless they sell houses for nothing in egypt.
LOL this is really bothering you....
If you are earning your income in Dollars.... and given that the Egyptian pound to Dollar is 6 to 1..... you can set up a pretty good living there and live quite comfortably.
I'm just astonished that anyone would want to go visit Post-Revolutionary Egypt.... lol Hell, I don't want to go back.... like Ever!
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Yeah there are like 4 of them! But its not cheap.... like the cheapest one there is 600 dollars a year!
For the longest time I was a member of the one right on the Nile, had a great view:
(http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1379/1244296824_2503e37ed5_z.jpg)
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/-PBz-AllQ_iI/SLWuYRpYi1I/AAAAAAAAAGE/sAB0UEp7D6M/DSCN0049.JPG)
wow
4 golds gyms in egypt
BB si big in egpyt and considered a true sport
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big ach just said he saw him training in the golds gym in egypt... since big ach lives in the US, it's strange that on the rare occasion he's in egypt he just happens to run into nassir
just happens to?
its all set up , a Jihadist conspiracy 8)
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wow
4 golds gyms in egypt
BB si big in egpyt and considered a true sport
Actually I think the number is closer to 6 or 7 branches... One of the branches is in this really ritzy part in the suburbs of Cairo, membership there is almost $2000 a year.... fucking insane!
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wow
4 golds gyms in egypt
BB si big in egpyt and considered a true sport
man there are 12 golds gym branches in egypt now,.. i have just checked their website.. b. ach's info. is not updated..
http://www.goldsgymegypt.com/
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man there are 12 golds gym branches in egypt now,.. i have just checked their website.. b. ach's info. is not updated..
http://www.goldsgymegypt.com/
Oh snap... I didn't even think of those outside of Cairo, you're right!!!
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Cool pics! Solid thread.
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Cool pics! Solid thread.
thx tommy 8)
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lots of pics of three times uncrowned mr olympias with fly swatters in this thread
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thx tommy 8)
what does nasser think about the current situation in egypt? who is he backing?
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LOL this is really bothering you....
If you are earning your income in Dollars.... and given that the Egyptian pound to Dollar is 6 to 1..... you can set up a pretty good living there and live quite comfortably.
I'm just astonished that anyone would want to go visit Post-Revolutionary Egypt.... lol Hell, I don't want to go back.... like Ever!
nasser doesn't like to be around other competitors from the days of old. He may feel that they are beneath him, he may feel that he would be kissing Arnold's feet.
And he may feel it will make him feel old.
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Incredible thread Sherief!!
Nasser Nights 2013 in Egypt!
I see the jealousy among getbiggers has gone down, seems like its now concentrated in lubeyourman.
Nasser is the most hospitable person I've ever met, I'm sure you noticed his hospitality in addition to his intelligence and generousity.
Also cool you got to meet his parents, and see where the Great Arab Genetics came from!
Lol at Wiggs feeling the need to show he has something in common with The Three Times (at least) Uncrowned Mr. Olympia by lying that he shares the ancestory of Nasser's Egyptian side. ::)
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Incredible thread Sherief!!
Nasser Nights 2013 in Egypt!
I see the jealousy among getbiggers has gone down, seems like its now concentrated in lubeyourman.
Nasser is the most hospitable person I've ever met, I'm sure you noticed his hospitality in addition to his intelligence and generousity.
Also cool you got to meet his parents, and see where the Great Arab Genetics came from!
Lol at Wiggs feeling the need to show he has something in common with The Three Times (at least) Uncrowned Mr. Olympia by lying that he shares the ancestory of Nasser's Egyptian side. ::)
thx bobs ;D
check the below video.. i have put it in a separate thread but must be here too.. as for wiggs,.. may be,.. his ancestor was one of the slaves who were used to move the heavy stones for nasser's and my ancestors to build the great temples :D
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wiggs is a moron, but remember that the vast majority of the slaves were egyptian, so most likely your ancestos moved those stones. wiggs ancestors were in ghana waiting for the europeans to arrive to take them for a stroll
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Lol at Wiggs feeling the need to show he has something in common with The Three Times (at least) Uncrowned Mr. Olympia by lying that he shares the ancestory of Nasser's Egyptian side. ::)
LOL!
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RIP Nasser