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Title: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 31, 2013, 05:25:16 AM
Today is the stop smoking for a day (24 hrs) don't know if is a world wide thing...

So I asked  a FWB mother of 2 if she could  skip "420" today (Friday) smoking pot/mota/weed/grass/verde/hierba MJ ...


She got mad for no reason ...she said  I Don't have to do that!!  with low clas attitude .... I said of couse you don't, that's why I asked If you could....  

I don't know man, weed smokers brag about not being addicted or hooked but they get so insecure,offensive or sensitive with things like not smoking for a single day ??


WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHH
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Wiggs on May 31, 2013, 05:27:29 AM
Stop smoking is for cigarettes. Weed smoke short and long term causes no damage unlike cigarettes.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Parker on May 31, 2013, 05:27:53 AM
Today is the stop smoking for a day (24 hrs) don't know if is a world wide thing...

So I asked  a FWB mother of 2 if she could  skip "420" today (Friday) smoking pot/mota/weed/grass/verde/hierba MJ ...


She got mad for no reason ...she said  I Don't have to do that!!  with low clas attitude .... I said of couse you don't, that's why I asked If you could....  

I don't know man, weed smokers brag about not being addicted or hooked but they get so insecure,offensive or sensitive with things like not smoking for a single day ??


WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHH
because, like any addict, they don't want to admit that they don't have a problems...
And I've noticed this as well with weed heads...ask them to give it a rest for a sec, and they get mad...
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 31, 2013, 06:14:27 AM
Stop smoking is for cigarettes. Weed smoke short and long term causes no damage unlike cigarettes.


WoooSSHHHHH, but that's not the point.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: jephrius on May 31, 2013, 06:15:21 AM
Stop smoking is for cigarettes. Weed smoke short and long term causes no damage unlike cigarettes.
Is that what you tell yourself? lol
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Necrosis on May 31, 2013, 06:22:13 AM
weed is physically addicting, not to mention psychologically. The physical addiction is not intense but on par with cigs. The withdrawal syndrome is acutally in the DSM 5

I am addicted as I use it nightly to sleep and as an anti-depressant but it works quite well for me and I have no real negatives besides the want to do it. Couple that with the health benefits as documented in the lit, blood sugar control, neuroprotection, anti-inflammatory, pro-apoptic etc I think it is a fine addiction to have.

Also, what many don't know about weed is that it has a dose dependent response on serotonin, low doses massively boost it reducing OCD, improving mood while the inverse occurs for higher dosages. Some conditions have low anandamide as an etiological factor (endogenous cannabinoid) and weed treats that well. It also inhibits the orbitofrontal cortex, something which is the center of research around hyperactivity and OCD.

I do go days without it, weeks at times but I prefer to have it like a nice glass of wine (I don't drink but probably should based on the health benefits.)
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: hipolito mejia on May 31, 2013, 06:35:05 AM
Marijuana is not a gateway drug that leads to harder drugs. It's more of a drive thru drug that leads to french fries burgers,tacos,shakes and frosties......

And Yes most get mad when asked if they're adicted or not.....
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Marty Champions on May 31, 2013, 06:44:58 AM
Stop smoking is for cigarettes. Weed smoke short and long term causes no damage unlike cigarettes.
youre so fuckin dumb just look at that smug empty look on your face, any kind of smoke causes long term damage ANY KIND OF SMOKE
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: cswol on May 31, 2013, 06:59:33 AM
Arnold's shirt in pumping iron was a misprint it was suppose to say indica is número UNO
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Tito24 on May 31, 2013, 07:02:59 AM
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Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: cswol on May 31, 2013, 07:04:43 AM
X and Molly's are for suckers
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 31, 2013, 07:09:34 AM
youre so fuckin dumb just look at that smug empty look on your face, any kind of smoke causes long term damage ANY KIND OF SMOKE


Exactly, lungs weren't made to be Filtering smoke (of any kind) regularly ... I hope Wigz doesnt get mad for me saying that.



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: cswol on May 31, 2013, 07:22:48 AM
Weed has never killed anyone yes smoke is toxic to the body but there's never been one documented case stating weed as the culprit, however in Westwood ca they have a real time ticker of the number of people killed by cigarettes each swc
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: deadpan on May 31, 2013, 07:37:05 AM
i've been clean for months now, prior to that was a daily wake n baker for years. had to kick it because of my job, no withdrawals or anything. so fuck your stereotypes.

the reason people don't want to stop smoking it is because it makes life 5000 times better. not because they're "addicted" to it. i'd bet you'd get indignant too if i told you not to use internet or check your texts or use your car or work out for a day.


Exactly, lungs weren't made to be Filtering smoke (of any kind) regularly ... I hope Wigz doesnt get mad for me saying that.

WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

it's still not as bad as cig smoke which is full of tons of toxic chemicals pumped into them by the companies that make them and government regulations. also weed has an antioxidant in it that actually negates some of the carcinogenic effects of the smoke. and smoking it through a bong makes it even less harmful since the water filters a lot of the tar and carcinogens. or you can vape it and not even worry at all.

and actually the lungs can take quite a bit of abuse. granted you can still fuck them up if you're retarded (i.e. pack a day smokers) but for the most part, the dangers of weed smoke are grossly overrated. hell it didn't even mess with my cardio when i was smoking it everyday. cigs on the other hand, i'd smoke maybe 5-10 on a bar night and the next day could definitely feel it if i went for a run or something like that.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Psychopath on May 31, 2013, 07:50:14 AM
Don't like pot headz.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Mr Nobody on May 31, 2013, 07:53:13 AM
Stop smoking is for cigarettes. Weed smoke short and long term causes no damage unlike cigarettes.
A joint is like smoking 10 cigarettes on your lungs and central nervous system.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: gym**rat on May 31, 2013, 07:55:39 AM
I smoked weed from the age of 13 to the age of 32, 54 now. I said the whole time it was not addictive, I was wrong. Maybe it does not effect everyone like an addiction but most people I know it did. I do not miss it now except for the smell. I love the smell of a sweet ass bud burning.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: cswol on May 31, 2013, 08:08:44 AM
what do you call a man who performs PMH, and gets coked up with trannys and fucks them sicko style, and calls it ok.............my guy we could put a wig on a pig and you gonna call it pussy! PRE MEDITATED HOMOSEXUALITY
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Psychopath on May 31, 2013, 08:11:11 AM
what do you call a man who performs PMH, and gets coked up with trannys and fucks them sicko style, and calls it ok.............my guy we could put a wig on a pig and you gonna call it pussy! PRE MEDITATED HOMOSEXUALITY


Trannies would laugh in your fat bloated face while you struggle to lift the belly fat off your white trash dick.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: sync pulse on May 31, 2013, 08:23:12 AM

I am addicted as I use it nightly to sleep and as an anti-depressant but it works quite well for me and I have no real negatives besides the want to do it. Couple that with the health benefits as documented in the lit, blood sugar control, neuroprotection, anti-inflammatory, pro-apoptic etc I think it is a fine addiction to have.

For me weed stimulates the inflammatory response...arthritic pain, rash, phlegm...that, and being laid off and having to undergo two intensive job searches since 2007 made me give it up.  I have probably developed a genuine allergy to it.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Tito24 on May 31, 2013, 08:33:45 AM
im more of the synthesised drugs
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: cswol on May 31, 2013, 09:21:35 AM
I once smoked weed, big joints, with jack herer, looking back I feel fortunate to say I did that.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: deadpan on May 31, 2013, 09:34:17 AM
weed is physically addicting, not to mention psychologically. The physical addiction is not intense but on par with cigs. The withdrawal syndrome is acutally in the DSM 5

I am addicted as I use it nightly to sleep and as an anti-depressant but it works quite well for me and I have no real negatives besides the want to do it. Couple that with the health benefits as documented in the lit, blood sugar control, neuroprotection, anti-inflammatory, pro-apoptic etc I think it is a fine addiction to have.

Also, what many don't know about weed is that it has a dose dependent response on serotonin, low doses massively boost it reducing OCD, improving mood while the inverse occurs for higher dosages. Some conditions have low anandamide as an etiological factor (endogenous cannabinoid) and weed treats that well. It also inhibits the orbitofrontal cortex, something which is the center of research around hyperactivity and OCD.

I do go days without it, weeks at times but I prefer to have it like a nice glass of wine (I don't drink but probably should based on the health benefits.)

yeah that's the thing, they're discovering more and more health benefits to it as well. although i think the sleep effect is actually not one as i read somewhere it affects delta wave sleep or something like that, leading to less restful sleep.

i don't think the glass of wine thing has anything to do with the alcohol content, moreso with the resveratrol antioxidant found in grape skins. although i did read something about moderate alcohol amounts being beneficial in controlling insulin levels.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: deadpan on May 31, 2013, 09:35:33 AM
For me weed stimulates the inflammatory response...arthritic pain, rash, phlegm...that, and being laid off and having to undergo two intensive job searches since 2007 made me give it up.  I have probably developed a genuine allergy to it.


you sure you didn't just get bad weed? maybe some harsh pesticides/fertilizers or something along those lines? i've never had that problem before.

everyone's different i guess.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Parker on May 31, 2013, 10:00:58 AM
Marijuana is not a gateway drug that leads to harder drugs. It's more of a drive thru drug that leads to french fries burgers,tacos,shakes and frosties......

And Yes most get mad when asked if they're adicted or not.....
Weed is a gateway drug for some, and others it is not. Many who have addictive personalities use it as a gateway drug...like trying it, then get bored, then do other drugs. Many times Oxy, opiate pill users will have weed in their possession.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Wiggs on May 31, 2013, 10:41:30 AM
perhaps some of you morons should stay informed.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-57356379-10391704/is-smoking-marijuana-bad-for-your-lungs/

(CBS) - Is smoking marijuana bad for your health? The question is often debated when it comes to medical marijuana, but a new study suggests if smoking pot is bad for your body, your lungs aren't bearing the brunt of the damage.

The study found occasional marijuana smoking did not negatively impact a person's lung function.

For the study, researchers performed routine pulmonary function tests on 5,115 young adults who were part 20-year study on coronary artery disease risk. The researchers wanted to test lung function against a person's "joint years" of life-time marijuana exposure. For example, if a person smoked one joint or pipe's worth of marijuana per week for 49 years, or if a person smoked one joint or pipe's worth per day for seven years, both people would be identified as having "7-joint-years" of marijuana exposure.

That might sound like a lot, but most of the marijuana smokers in this study were not heavy users, according to study co-author Dr. Stefan Kertesz, an associate professor of preventive medicine at the University of Alabama at Birgmingham.

"This is not a study focused on the kinds of individuals you would see in treatment programs for chemical dependence or in the latest 'Harold and Kumar' movie," Kertesz told CBS News in an email. Kertesz said the median marijuana smokers in the study used roughly two to three joints per month, which may include some people who would smoke frequently but then stop for a long period of time.

What the researchers find?

"With up to 7 joint-years of life-time exposure, we found no evidence that increasing exposure to marijuana adversely affects pulmonary function," the researchers wrote in study, published in the Jan. 10 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association. In fact, the researchers found a slight increase in occasional marijuana smokers' lung function. That increase may be indicative of marijuana smokers taking deep breaths and holding the smoke in, the researchers said.

At more than 10 joint-years of marijuana exposure, the researchers saw a slight decline in lung function, but the researchers said that finding was not statistically significant, so could be due to chance. Cigarette smokers, who smoked a median of eight to nine cigarettes per day, saw a significant drop in lung function over the twenty year study.

"Marijuana may have beneficial effects on pain control, appetite, mood, and management of other chronic symptoms," the researchers wrote. "Our findings suggest that occasional use of marijuana for these or other purposes may not be associated with adverse consequences on pulmonary function."

The researchers said it's more difficult to determine if long-term, heavy marijuana use is worse for lungs - because that pattern of smoking was "relatively rare" among the study participants - but they said there was a need for caution and moderation when marijuana use is considered.

Is smoking marijuana easier on the lungs than smoking cigarettes?

Kertesz told CBS News that low doses of marijuana among users who aren't addicted, "seems to pose lower risk to lungs than the typical usage patterns of cigarette smoking."

But that doesn't mean it's good for your lungs. Kertesz said smoking marijuana irritates the airways, triggers cough and phlegm production, and could be especially dangerous for asthmatics. Also, since the participants were originally enrolled in a heart study, the researchers couldn't determine how many got lung cancer.

"So don't assume that there is 'no' risk no matter who you are," Kertesz said.

Dr. Robert Glatter, an emergency medicine physician at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City, told CBS News in an email, "while casual marijuana use may not reflect an immediate decrease in lung function, marijuana smoke contains high levels of tar, which is bad for your health."

Glatter said smoking marijuana could lead to chronic coughing, wheezing and potentially chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD).

"Casual or recreational marijuana use is not a safe alternative to tobacco
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Wiggs on May 31, 2013, 10:44:43 AM
youre so fuckin dumb just look at that smug empty look on your face, any kind of smoke causes long term damage ANY KIND OF SMOKE

The smoking I'm gonna cause from a lightening fast ass whoopin' I'm a put on you is gonna cause some long term damage. What do you think about that?
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Tito24 on May 31, 2013, 11:11:12 AM
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Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: cswol on May 31, 2013, 04:30:52 PM
I smoked all morning before I did arms, I curled the 100 lb dumbells and curled 205 for 5, weed n coffee secrets of iron pumpers
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Marty Champions on May 31, 2013, 05:24:54 PM
The smoking I'm gonna cause from a lightening fast ass whoopin' I'm a put on you is gonna cause some long term damage. What do you think about that?
you come to nc and ill beat your ass like a little dumb bitch youll be beggin for mercy then ill give you a paint brush to pay your medical bills
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: jaejonna on May 31, 2013, 05:35:24 PM
Im sure all those dutch masters are healthy too ...
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Necrosis on June 01, 2013, 04:34:15 AM
A joint is like smoking 10 cigarettes on your lungs and central nervous system.

wrong.

nothing of his nature has ever been found, in fact it's the opposite. Also, comparing nicotine to cannabinoids is stupid.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: sync pulse on June 01, 2013, 04:48:33 AM
you sure you didn't just get bad weed?


No, No, In fact, the better the weed the more intense the inflammation response, rashes, et al.  Just breaking it up when it is really good makes me feel it.  Even without getting tested by an allergist I am sure I am allergic to it.  I have met people with this same thing and they didn't realize it until they abstain for a while that their rashes, arthritis, ear blockages, only bother them when they use marijuana.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Natural Beast on June 01, 2013, 06:22:37 AM
i smoke weed to relax but if i smoke too much i get lazy as fuck and just want to chill at home dont want to go out... i also smoked before my workouts and it didnt effect my workout negative.. it was positive i could train hard like always.. i was a lot more motivated and didnt sweat at all
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: beakdoctor on June 01, 2013, 07:14:44 AM
Weed is lame. Its the biggest nothing ever. Its great if you dont mind being lazy and stupid.

 Yeah, I'm sure its great for your lungs too. Some people will believe anything. Unfiltered smoke inhalation, yeah thats fucking great for your lungs.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Necrosis on June 01, 2013, 07:22:09 AM
Weed is lame. Its the biggest nothing ever. Its great if you dont mind being lazy and stupid.

 Yeah, I'm sure its great for your lungs too. Some people will believe anything. Unfiltered smoke inhalation, yeah thats fucking great for your lungs.

Well you got the stupid part and it appears the lazy part also as you clearly do not know anything about the science behind MJ. Also, who proposed that smoke is the only method of administration? that's an assumption, a lazy and stupid one on your part. What about oral? or perhaps vaporization? what about the THC to CBD ratio of these methods?

I neither lazy nor stupid and I actually find It to aide me in the lazy area to be honest, it's quite motivating for me, particularly sativa dominant strains which have more dopaminergic actions.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Man of Steel on June 01, 2013, 07:25:50 AM
Weed has never killed anyone yes smoke is toxic to the body but there's never been one documented case stating weed as the culprit, however in Westwood ca they have a real time ticker of the number of people killed by cigarettes each swc

Ask the mexican cartels if weed ever killed anyone.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Necrosis on June 01, 2013, 07:28:08 AM
Ask the mexican cartels if weed ever killed anyone.

Or ask ford if cars ever killed anyone ::)
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Man of Steel on June 01, 2013, 07:29:21 AM
Or ask ford if cars ever killed anyone ::)

Heard this comparison a thousand times....funny thing is it isn't a comparison LOL.


this to be followed up by, "should we outlaw cars?  better yet let's just legalize weed and everyone is happy."
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Necrosis on June 01, 2013, 07:33:13 AM
Heard this comparison a thousand times....funny thing is it isn't a comparison LOL.


this to be followed up by, "should we outlaw cars?  better yet let's just legalize weed and everyone is happy."

the point I was making was that the weed isn't the killer it's the peripheral shit like the selling of weed. Just like cars aren't to blame in cases of alcohol or DUI's, it's not a fair analogy.

Hitler was a christian :D
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: _bruce_ on June 01, 2013, 07:35:03 AM
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Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Necrosis on June 01, 2013, 08:14:36 AM
No, No, In fact, the better the weed the more intense the inflammation response, rashes, et al.  Just breaking it up when it is really good makes me feel it.  Even without getting tested by an allergist I am sure I am allergic to it.  I have met people with this same thing and they didn't realize it until they abstain for a while that their rashes, arthritis, ear blockages, only bother them when they use marijuana.

sounds like you are getting to high, stress response is kicking in.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: sync pulse on June 01, 2013, 08:43:43 AM
no,...rash (skin breaking out, crap forming in my ear),...inflammation of joints (not the rolled kind),...phlegm,...physical symptoms of an allergic response to a substance...not stress.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: beakdoctor on June 01, 2013, 09:27:50 AM
Well you got the stupid part and it appears the lazy part also as you clearly do not know anything about the science behind MJ. Also, who proposed that smoke is the only method of administration? that's an assumption, a lazy and stupid one on your part. What about oral? or perhaps vaporization? what about the THC to CBD ratio of these methods?

I neither lazy nor stupid and I actually find It to aide me in the lazy area to be honest, it's quite motivating for me, particularly sativa dominant strains which have more dopaminergic actions.

Yeah from that post you can "clearly" tell what I know and don't know.

Dipshit. It was not an assumption, it was a response to a post about SMOKING weed. Or  are you too lazy and stupid to read the thread? Go eat your cannabis brownies then come back and flaunt some more knowledge on the "science" of weed. What a joke.  Dr. Necrosis.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: deadpan on June 01, 2013, 09:28:37 AM
Ask the mexican cartels if weed ever killed anyone.

ask any bartender/bouncer/cop/football fan if alcohol ever killed anyone

people are gonna be retarded, it has nothing to do with the substance. if you're gonna pull that shit, go take it up with your retarded government that outlaws the stuff and creates a black market for it in the first place, and then POURS guns and funds FOR FREE into the hands of the cartels COUGH operation fast and furious COUGH
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: deadpan on June 01, 2013, 09:30:00 AM
Yeah from that post you can "clearly" tell what I know and don't know.

Dipshit. It was not an assumption, it was a response to a post about SMOKING weed. Or  are you too lazy and stupid to read the thread? Go eat your cannabis brownies then come back and flaunt some more knowledge on the "science" of weed. What a joke.  Dr. Necrosis.

bro, i don't think you need any help being lazy and stupid. especially the "stupid" part
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: beakdoctor on June 01, 2013, 09:32:38 AM
sounds like you are getting to high, stress response is kicking in.

Yes, I concur. Spot on diagnosis.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Necrosis on June 01, 2013, 09:44:16 AM
Yeah from that post you can "clearly" tell what I know and don't know.

Dipshit. It was not an assumption, it was a response to a post about SMOKING weed. Or  are you too lazy and stupid to read the thread? Go eat your cannabis brownies then come back and flaunt some more knowledge on the "science" of weed. What a joke.  Dr. Necrosis.

meltdown!

this thread was more so the use of weed. Clearly you haven't typed in marijuana in pubmed nor read any of the literature. Hopefully your not a doctor.

I don't eat brownies, I do an alcohol extraction, it's much more precise and only requires converting THCA-->THC via light baking and a steam bath.

You need some weed to calm down, an all caps word is a clear sign of anger.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: AVBG on June 01, 2013, 12:37:55 PM
Weed fucks with your mind
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Necrosis on June 01, 2013, 06:48:31 PM
Weed fucks with your mind

you talking to me?

you hear that?
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: polychronopolous on June 01, 2013, 08:26:02 PM
I smoked weed from the age of 13 to the age of 32, 54 now. I said the whole time it was not addictive, I was wrong. Maybe it does not effect everyone like an addiction but most people I know it did. I do not miss it now except for the smell. I love the smell of a sweet ass bud burning.

Yeah I noticed alot of you old timers will take a hit off a joint then put the lit end real close to their nose and smell it. Almost like taking 2 drags at once.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on June 01, 2013, 11:31:00 PM
perhaps some of you morons should stay informed.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-57356379-10391704/is-smoking-marijuana-bad-for-your-lungs/

(CBS) - Is smoking marijuana bad for your health? The question is often debated when it comes to medical marijuana, but a new study suggests if smoking pot is bad for your body, your lungs aren't bearing the brunt of the damage.

The study found occasional marijuana smoking did not negatively impact a person's lung function.

For the study, researchers performed routine pulmonary function tests on 5,115 young adults who were part 20-year study on coronary artery disease risk. The researchers wanted to test lung function against a person's "joint years" of life-time marijuana exposure. For example, if a person smoked one joint or pipe's worth of marijuana per week for 49 years, or if a person smoked one joint or pipe's worth per day for seven years, both people would be identified as having "7-joint-years" of marijuana exposure.

That might sound like a lot, but most of the marijuana smokers in this study were not heavy users, according to study co-author Dr. Stefan Kertesz, an associate professor of preventive medicine at the University of Alabama at Birgmingham.

"This is not a study focused on the kinds of individuals you would see in treatment programs for chemical dependence or in the latest 'Harold and Kumar' movie," Kertesz told CBS News in an email. Kertesz said the median marijuana smokers in the study used roughly two to three joints per month, which may include some people who would smoke frequently but then stop for a long period of time.

What the researchers find?

"With up to 7 joint-years of life-time exposure, we found no evidence that increasing exposure to marijuana adversely affects pulmonary function," the researchers wrote in study, published in the Jan. 10 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association. In fact, the researchers found a slight increase in occasional marijuana smokers' lung function. That increase may be indicative of marijuana smokers taking deep breaths and holding the smoke in, the researchers said.

At more than 10 joint-years of marijuana exposure, the researchers saw a slight decline in lung function, but the researchers said that finding was not statistically significant, so could be due to chance. Cigarette smokers, who smoked a median of eight to nine cigarettes per day, saw a significant drop in lung function over the twenty year study.

"Marijuana may have beneficial effects on pain control, appetite, mood, and management of other chronic symptoms," the researchers wrote. "Our findings suggest that occasional use of marijuana for these or other purposes may not be associated with adverse consequences on pulmonary function."

The researchers said it's more difficult to determine if long-term, heavy marijuana use is worse for lungs - because that pattern of smoking was "relatively rare" among the study participants - but they said there was a need for caution and moderation when marijuana use is considered.

Is smoking marijuana easier on the lungs than smoking cigarettes?

Kertesz told CBS News that low doses of marijuana among users who aren't addicted, "seems to pose lower risk to lungs than the typical usage patterns of cigarette smoking."

But that doesn't mean it's good for your lungs. Kertesz said smoking marijuana irritates the airways, triggers cough and phlegm production, and could be especially dangerous for asthmatics. Also, since the participants were originally enrolled in a heart study, the researchers couldn't determine how many got lung cancer.

"So don't assume that there is 'no' risk no matter who you are," Kertesz said.

Dr. Robert Glatter, an emergency medicine physician at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City, told CBS News in an email, "while casual marijuana use may not reflect an immediate decrease in lung function, marijuana smoke contains high levels of tar, which is bad for your health."

Glatter said smoking marijuana could lead to chronic coughing, wheezing and potentially chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD).

"Casual or recreational marijuana use is not a safe alternative to tobacco

Read the article again, idiot.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: epic_alien on June 01, 2013, 11:46:02 PM
weed is physically addicting, not to mention psychologically. The physical addiction is not intense but on par with cigs. The withdrawal syndrome is acutally in the DSM 5

I am addicted as I use it nightly to sleep and as an anti-depressant but it works quite well for me and I have no real negatives besides the want to do it. Couple that with the health benefits as documented in the lit, blood sugar control, neuroprotection, anti-inflammatory, pro-apoptic etc I think it is a fine addiction to have.

Also, what many don't know about weed is that it has a dose dependent response on serotonin, low doses massively boost it reducing OCD, improving mood while the inverse occurs for higher dosages. Some conditions have low anandamide as an etiological factor (endogenous cannabinoid) and weed treats that well. It also inhibits the orbitofrontal cortex, something which is the center of research around hyperactivity and OCD.

I do go days without it, weeks at times but I prefer to have it like a nice glass of wine (I don't drink but probably should based on the health benefits.)

why does the opposite effect occur with some individuals? having paranoia. accelerated thoughts ect?
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Ropo on June 02, 2013, 12:01:11 AM
Stop smoking is for cigarettes. Weed smoke short and long term causes no damage unlike cigarettes.

Hate to spoil your joy to be ignorant fool, but when I use that your claim in the google, what I found? WP article with 161 references. It seem to me that there is lot of studies about the matter, and your claim is bullshit. It causes lot of long term damages, and not only in your lungs. In fact, there isn't any kind of smoke which doesn't make damages in your lungs, so claims like yours is plain and simple just stupid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_effects_of_cannabis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_effects_of_cannabis)
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: deadpan on June 02, 2013, 05:03:55 AM
Hate to spoil your joy to be ignorant fool, but when I use that your claim in the google, what I found? WP article with 161 references. It seem to me that there is lot of studies about the matter, and your claim is bullshit. It causes lot of long term damages, and not only in your lungs. In fact, there isn't any kind of smoke which doesn't make damages in your lungs, so claims like yours is plain and simple just stupid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_effects_of_cannabis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_effects_of_cannabis)

DID YOU EVEN READ YOUR OWN LINK?! SRS QUESTION.

"Although cannabis smoke contains many of the same carcinogens as tobacco smoke,[77] current scientific data supports the possibility that cannabis smoking may not induce cancer.[78] Of the various methods of cannabis consumption, smoking is considered the most harmful; the inhalation of smoke from organic materials can cause various health problems (e.g., coughing and sputum). Isoprenes help to modulate and slow down reaction rates, contributing to the significantly differing qualities of partial combustion products from various sources.[79][80] Compared to tobacco much less cannabis material in weight is burned, with the average hand rolled cigarette at about 1 gram, tobacco or cannabis. Commercial cigarettes have numerous additives, many of which modify combustion in such a way to create a very consistent aerosol at any given air flow rate, perhaps to maximize nicotine delivery/bio-availability, and thus reduce total amount of smoke consumed to nicotine crossing the blood brain barrier. A relative abundance of terpenes and other higher molecular weight, adhesive molecules results in a smoke with higher mean particle size, as well as a corresponding higher deposition rate of particulate matter. This means more is deposited on the bronchioles, and larger airways, which the lungs can clear easier, as less of the very fine, highly toxic amorphous particles reach the delicate alveoli. Cilia cannot "sweep" up the combustion products effectively. Subjective lung irritation not based upon the amount of matter crossing the semipermeable gas exchange surfaces deep in the lungs, rather the primary factor is amount of matter which adheres to motile cilium. This also contributes to a noted expectorant effect of any smoke to some extent, due to the defense system the mucus membranes in the lungs possess. The study concluded: "A significant interaction revealed that the impact of a vaporizer was larger as the amount of cannabis used increased. These data suggest that the safety of cannabis can increase with the use of a vaporizer. Regular users of joints, blunts, pipes, and water pipes might decrease respiratory symptoms by switching to a vaporizer".[81] Another study found vaporizers to be "a safe and effective cannabinoid delivery system."[82][83]

In a 20-year study of 5,000 young adults, researchers found that, unlike tobacco use, smoking cannabis once a week or a bit more doesn't harm the lungs, with less clear results regarding heavy users due to a lack of very heavy users in the study. In fact, the study found that occasional cannabis use actually increases both lung capacity and volume over the years, possibly because cannabis smokers often take deep breaths, which exercises lung tissue. The correlation only decreased after the equivalent of about ten years of smoking cannabis once a day. Only lung volume and capacity were examined, not throat irritation, coughing, or lung cancer.[84]"
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Parker on June 02, 2013, 05:34:30 AM
Ask the mexican cartels if weed ever killed anyone.
Weed or alcohol. They are indifferent. They are not "bad".
Too much of both is not good. What is too much? Well, that is up to the individual and their tolerances.
Unfortunately in our society "too much" is a good thing.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: gym**rat on June 02, 2013, 06:20:22 AM
Yeah I noticed alot of you old timers will take a hit off a joint then put the lit end real close to their nose and smell it. Almost like taking 2 drags at once.

Great observation Poly. We never wanted to waste a thing. When a roach would get so small we would pushin the car lighter, throw the roach on it then snort in every ounce of smoke.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Necrosis on June 02, 2013, 08:48:03 AM
why does the opposite effect occur with some individuals? having paranoia. accelerated thoughts ect?

individual neurochemistry? the same reason someone who takes amphetamines may become manic while others do not. Also, if you aren't a regular smoker it is very hard to control the dosage, I for example will get these effects if I use to much. Once tolerance develops to a degree you can enjoy it more imo. The paranoia is a rare thing for me and is dose dependent.

Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: deadpan on June 02, 2013, 12:49:40 PM
Great observation Poly. We never wanted to waste a thing. When a roach would get so small we would pushin the car lighter, throw the roach on it then snort in every ounce of smoke.

just don't pack it so close to the smoking end. that or tweezers. but yeah when you're paying 20 bucks per gram, you sure as hell don't wanna waste any.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: 99 Bananas on June 02, 2013, 01:04:16 PM
Getting too high is definitely a killer but some people could use those extra paranoid thoughts. A  person whose life is straight does not get paranoid. If you find yourself anxious when smoking weed you should reconsider all of your actions in life. The parnoia will help you. You won't find a weed smoker cutting people off in traffic or getting in fights at a bar. Weed suppresses your empowered ego. You use anger to power trip and do as you feel without considering the feelings of others. This is great for some applications, but to the irresponsible being it mostly brings ruin upon them.

Harness the power of life on the sober spectrum and on the high spectrum. You can sit back and watch life unfold. You do your part as best you can, and the rest is left to unfold as the caterpillar turns to the butterfly. High is not better, sober is not better, the right action for any given moment upon being either is better.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: deadpan on June 02, 2013, 01:40:14 PM
Getting too high is definitely a killer but some people could use those extra paranoid thoughts. A  person whose life is straight does not get paranoid. If you find yourself anxious when smoking weed you should reconsider all of your actions in life. The parnoia will help you. You won't find a weed smoker cutting people off in traffic or getting in fights at a bar. Weed suppresses your empowered ego. You use anger to power trip and do as you feel without considering the feelings of others. This is great for some applications, but to the irresponsible being it mostly brings ruin upon them.

Harness the power of life on the sober spectrum and on the high spectrum. You can sit back and watch life unfold. You do your part as best you can, and the rest is left to unfold as the caterpillar turns to the butterfly. High is not better, sober is not better, the right action for any given moment upon being either is better.

this x1000. your subconscious mind comes into the conscious realm in altered states of reality, allowing you to explore things that are not as they should be in your life, things that cause stress and anxiety and fear, and then, once you identify them, you can address them in your sober state. this doesn't apply to just weed, but any mind-altering drug, especially psychedelics. your brain even produces the most powerful one in existence while you sleep (DMT) specifically for this purpose when you dream. it's an important aspect of the human mind and to deny that is to limit your potential.

funny how LSD was found to have extremely important applications in psychological circles, whereas the government only found it's use in trying to create mind controlled sleeper agents, tested them against unwilling individuals (MKULTRA), and then when those projects failed, deemed it "useless" and banned it so that the layman could not enrich his life. a clear case of the ego overpowering logical and impartial thought.  ;)
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: gym**rat on June 02, 2013, 01:47:32 PM
just don't pack it so close to the smoking end. that or tweezers. but yeah when you're paying 20 bucks per gram, you sure as hell don't wanna waste any.

Funny thing is back then when I did that it was $20 an ounce, no shit.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: deadpan on June 02, 2013, 01:49:36 PM
Funny thing is back then when I did that it was $20 an ounce, no shit.

 :o :o :o

$100 a quarter is a good deal in my part of town nowadays. strong stuff though, i didn't mind paying it. but dayum!
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: polychronopolous on June 02, 2013, 02:14:10 PM
just don't pack it so close to the smoking end. that or tweezers. but yeah when you're paying 20 bucks per gram, you sure as hell don't wanna waste any.

Your typical ultra wealthy multimillionaire getbigger carelessly wipes off several grams of ultra high dollar kind bud shake from his jeans after rolling a joint.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: gym**rat on June 02, 2013, 02:15:28 PM
Your typical ultra wealthy multimillionaire getbigger carelessly wipes off several grams of ultra high dollar kind bud shake from his jeans after rolling a joint.

That definitely made me lol.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: polychronopolous on June 02, 2013, 02:20:19 PM
That definitely made e lol.

 ;D
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on June 02, 2013, 06:33:26 PM
:o :o :o

$100 a quarter is a good deal in my part of town nowadays. strong stuff though, i didn't mind paying it. but dayum!

Where the fuck do you live, the arctic?
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: deadpan on June 02, 2013, 06:37:43 PM
Where the fuck do you live, the arctic?

southern USA. but it's been around that and even higher in other places i've visited like cali and az.

unless you know a grower you're probably getting mids or regs if you paid significantly less.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on June 02, 2013, 06:41:34 PM
southern USA. but it's been around that and even higher in other places i've visited like cali and az.

unless you know a grower you're probably getting mids or regs if you paid significantly less.

I've never paid over 50 for a quarter and that's triple A stuff. wow
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: deadpan on June 02, 2013, 06:46:18 PM
I've never paid over 50 for a quarter and that's triple A stuff. wow

what strain
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Jonny34 on June 02, 2013, 07:12:56 PM
I've never paid over 50 for a quarter and that's triple A stuff. wow

If that's the case, you have never had any Top Shelf Indica or Sativa. Shops don't sell less than 100 for a quarter of the death being lab tested at over 20% to 30%.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Maddy on June 02, 2013, 07:14:29 PM
If that's the case, you have never had any Top Shelf Indica or Sativa. Shops don't sell less than 100 for a quarter of the death being lab tested at over 20% to 30%.

Alex23
smokes weed
now
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on June 03, 2013, 05:38:19 AM
If that's the case, you have never had any Top Shelf Indica or Sativa. Shops don't sell less than 100 for a quarter of the death being lab tested at over 20% to 30%.



Ok...  ::)

Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on June 03, 2013, 05:46:00 AM
what strain

I had access to sativas or indicas and all ratios of mixes of the two. Lots of cross strains with kush. Some Blueberry,  juicy fruit,  ak47, Champaign, different skunk varieties, white widow, white rhino. Too many to name them all in all my years.  Stopped smoking a few years ago but did just about everything else with weed that a person can do, from growing to selling to cooking with it back in the day.

I loved growing it but the paranoia I started to develop after smoking it for so many years took the enjoyment away.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: gym**rat on June 03, 2013, 06:06:03 AM
I had access to sativas or indicas and all ratios of mixes of the two. Lots of cross strains with kush. Some Blueberry,  juicy fruit,  ak47, Champaign, different skunk varieties, white widow, white rhino. Too many to name them all in all my years.  Stopped smoking a few years ago but did just about everything else with weed that a person can do, from growing to selling to cooking with it back in the day.

I loved growing it but the paranoia I started to develop after smoking it for so many years took the enjoyment away.

This is exactly why I quit as well.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: deadpan on June 03, 2013, 06:19:41 AM
I had access to sativas or indicas and all ratios of mixes of the two. Lots of cross strains with kush. Some Blueberry,  juicy fruit,  ak47, Champaign, different skunk varieties, white widow, white rhino. Too many to name them all in all my years.  Stopped smoking a few years ago but did just about everything else with weed that a person can do, from growing to selling to cooking with it back in the day.

I loved growing it but the paranoia I started to develop after smoking it for so many years took the enjoyment away.

wait, so were you paying $50 from a dealer, or was that your growing costs? well in any case it doesn't really matter, i've gone through like 5 dealers and a bunch of friends and $100 is about the cheapest you can get in my area  :-\  i wish it was $50

i actually stopped getting paranoia after a while, had it at first but it went away

problem was my tolerance got so ridiculously high that in the amounts i had to smoke it, it was starting to put me to sleep. but i'd probably still be smoking it anyways if it wasn't for the man >:(
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: MP on June 03, 2013, 06:26:27 AM
Serious question. Health risks aside, does anyone have a regular weed-smoking friend who isn't messed up in some regard? Sh*t or no job, can't keep a job, messed up marriage, messed up kids, etc?

Regular pot use never seems to translate into success from what I've personally seen.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Raymondo on June 03, 2013, 06:30:13 AM
Serious question. Health risks aside, does anyone have a regular weed-smoking friend who isn't messed up in some regard? Sh*t or no job, can't keep a job, messed up marriage, messed up kids, etc?

Regular pot use never seems to translate into success from what I've personally seen.

Sir Richard Branson smokes pot, I'd call him successful. But that's just me, you may have a different view  :)
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: MP on June 03, 2013, 06:41:05 AM
Got a source for that?

I Googled and found where he admitted to smoking with his son, asking Obama for a joint at the White House and saying occasional use isn't bad. But I don't see anywhere where he says he smokes regularly.

I found this list, but it seems everyone on it either admitted to smoking in the past, or occasional use:

http://coed.com/2009/02/06/the-10-most-successful-potheads-on-the-planet-cool-enough-to-admit-it/

I'm talking regular use. I've still yet to come across someone who smokes regularly and keeps everything together. They always have some issues in their life.

I don't think there is anything wrong with occasional use, but doing it daily means you're having issues dealing with reality.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Raymondo on June 03, 2013, 06:43:27 AM
Yes, I'd love to argue semantics with you  ::)

Do you have a source for your assertion that every day smokers are "messed up" in some "regard"?
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: MP on June 03, 2013, 06:48:39 AM
Semantics? Huh? There's a big difference between regular use and occasional use. I thought I was pretty clear. Maybe you just got baked?  ;D

Anyway, I clearly stated that from my own personal observations, this is what I've seen: Regular users aren't successful in life.

Maybe you're a regular user and consider yourself successful? OK then, you fall into the winner column.

Let's see some examples of regular users who are successful. Either they themselves, friends, or perhaps "famous" people.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: deadpan on June 03, 2013, 06:55:24 AM
Got a source for that?

I Googled and found where he admitted to smoking with his son, asking Obama for a joint at the White House and saying occasional use isn't bad. But I don't see anywhere where he says he smokes regularly.

I found this list, but it seems everyone on it either admitted to smoking in the past, or occasional use:

http://coed.com/2009/02/06/the-10-most-successful-potheads-on-the-planet-cool-enough-to-admit-it/

I'm talking regular use. I've still yet to come across someone who smokes regularly and keeps everything together. They always have some issues in their life.

I don't think there is anything wrong with occasional use, but doing it daily means you're having issues dealing with reality.

well let's see, my friend is a chem major, has a job, makes straight A's, is in fucking mensa and plays the market on the side and smokes every day, i don't think he has issues dealing with reality.

put it to you this way, how many do you know who smoke tobacco or drink alcohol or caffeine or take prescription anxiety drugs on a daily basis and aren't "messed up in some way"? i'd say hacking and coughing up phlegm every day and yelling at your friends because you haven't had your daily fix of whatever or needing a drink every night just to fall asleep could be considered "messed up in some way".

and how exactly do you quantify "messed up in some way" vs "successful"? is someone successful because they slave away 50 hours a week at some job they hate to make more money than they need and drive a benz even though 95% of the time it doesn't even go over 50?

stop letting society and the government dictate what you think. as long as someone can provide for themselves and are genuinely happy with their life, they're successful. regardless if they live like a king or a pauper.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: MP on June 03, 2013, 07:00:17 AM
What defines success is obviously a longer discussion. Certainly, it's not all about money.

I'll keep it real simple, let's just say not being a fuck-up is success for this discussion. (i.e., keeping a marriage together, not committing crimes, setting the right example so your kids don't have kids before they are married, etc.)

Your friend is a student and it's great that he's doing well. But, once he moves on to the next phase of life (with perhaps a wife, kids and more professional job), would he still continue his regular use you think?
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: deadpan on June 03, 2013, 07:16:01 AM
What defines success is obviously a longer discussion. Certainly, it's not all about money.

I'll keep it real simple, let's just say not being a fuck-up is success for this discussion. (i.e., keeping a marriage together, not committing crimes, setting the right example so your kids don't have kids before they are married, etc.)

Your friend is a student and it's great that he's doing well. But, once he moves on to the next phase of life (with perhaps a wife, kids and more professional job), would he still continue his regular use you think?

i can't say for sure. it would depend on his job and whether or not it drug tests. he's already said he doesn't want kids or a wife. perhaps his opinion will change on the subject as he gets older, but there's a definite trend of upper-class people having less kids than the lower classes. he's also mentioned that he doesn't want to work a day job all his life and wants to be his own boss, ie starting a company and/or making money via passive income, investments, rental properties, etc.

which segues into my next point; i still don't agree with the notion that success = wife + kids + white collar job. it's great if you're happy with that way of life, but it's not for everyone. and as for the "not committing crimes part", well that's kinda self evident considering the act of smoking weed in itself is already committing a crime.

which begs the question, are these "fuck-ups" as you call them that way because of some inherent quality in weed that makes them that way (your theory), or because the government won't let them have a job and be successful, by virtue of making it illegal, thus driving them into becoming "fuck-ups"?
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: CT_Muscle on June 03, 2013, 08:37:34 AM
Cannabis smokers show greater lung capacity and lower cancer levels than non-smokers

http://www.naturalnews.com/035980_cannabis_smokers_cancer.html


Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Man of Steel on June 03, 2013, 09:57:28 AM
the point I was making was that the weed isn't the killer it's the peripheral shit like the selling of weed. Just like cars aren't to blame in cases of alcohol or DUI's, it's not a fair analogy.

Hitler was a christian :D

AHAHAHAH!!!  Yes, ole Hitler was a Christian!  Tremendous man of God doing God's inspired work!!    :P ;D
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on June 03, 2013, 01:05:41 PM
wait, so were you paying $50 from a dealer, or was that your growing costs? well in any case it doesn't really matter, i've gone through like 5 dealers and a bunch of friends and $100 is about the cheapest you can get in my area  :-\  i wish it was $50

i actually stopped getting paranoia after a while, had it at first but it went away

problem was my tolerance got so ridiculously high that in the amounts i had to smoke it, it was starting to put me to sleep. but i'd probably still be smoking it anyways if it wasn't for the man >:(

When I quite growing and had to buy I never paid more then 50 bucks a quarter. When I grew and sold,  I sold quarters for 50, ounces for 150-170, quarter pound for 600-700, etc..  but it was all dependant on the market at the time as well.  When there was a lot of good weed around that was the average price.  When things got dry,  prices would go up.  I guess it also depends on your social circle.  If everyone you know is growing or selling and buying you can't sell for 100 a quarter cause no one would buy from you.  Lol prices for pounds would be higher depending on the buyer and where the final destination for the product would be too. Lots of factors effected price but $100 a quarter at the time and place that I was doing things was unheard of.

Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Necrosis on June 03, 2013, 01:44:34 PM
I smoke daily and am a doctor with several degrees? I am successful I think. I am messed up but I kinda live two lives. One is professional me who is a fake, it's my qualities magnified and my faults minimized. At home I am pretty laid back mess who is easy to get along with and just wants to have fun.

I have a "gifted iq" and am considered smart by my peers.

However, that's professional life, I don't really consider that life. My job is just that a job I do to live my life or to have the life I want.

I work to live not live to work.

I know others like me who are quite well off and doing well. I then know a few fuck-ups, but I feel they would be fuck ups without it and the others successful without it.

My dingaling is really long thick and veiny, it's varicosed even. I had to shunt the arterial blood from my femoral artery to my weiner so I don't die.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: deadpan on June 03, 2013, 02:06:40 PM
When I quite growing and had to buy I never paid more then 50 bucks a quarter. When I grew and sold,  I sold quarters for 50, ounces for 150-170, quarter pound for 600-700, etc..  but it was all dependant on the market at the time as well.  When there was a lot of good weed around that was the average price.  When things got dry,  prices would go up.  I guess it also depends on your social circle.  If everyone you know is growing or selling and buying you can't sell for 100 a quarter cause no one would buy from you.  Lol prices for pounds would be higher depending on the buyer and where the final destination for the product would be too. Lots of factors effected price but $100 a quarter at the time and place that I was doing things was unheard of.



yeah, must've just been a different time/market. i wish i could find it for cheaper but short of growing it, i doubt i will do much better. i don't smoke anymore so it doesn't really matter but i'd like to take it back up again someday when i have more financial freedom.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Overload on June 03, 2013, 03:10:35 PM
I actually know several pot heads that are extremely successful.  Some of them smoke heavily and are able to live a very normal life.  A few of them you would never know smoked weed all day long.  I used to smoke back in the day, but it made me lazy, although i believe that is more in my head than driven by weed.  Back in college i used to smoke almost every night and never had any issues, but i didn't smoke as often as most people i knew back then.

One of my best friends is a very successful architect, works for one of the largest firms in the nation, makes a shitload of cash.  He smokes every day when he gets home from work and all weekend.  I've never seen him act lazy or even weird, he's just a very laid back guy who is by far one of the most intelligent and overall interesting people I've met in my life.  He balances it all out easily, says it helps him deal with stress and focus on living a good life.


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Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Borracho on June 03, 2013, 03:12:58 PM
I rather be around a pot head than a drunk.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Overload on June 03, 2013, 03:15:54 PM
I rather be around a pot head than a drunk.

I don't smoke anymore, but i feel the same.  I also believe that drinking causes far more legal and social issues than weed could ever cause.  Most of the drunks i know are raging lunatics, while all the pot heads i know are cool people who just like to relax and have fun.

Also, I've never met an aggressive person who was high on weed.  Quite the opposite for a drunk.


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Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Wiggs on June 03, 2013, 03:16:43 PM
There's nothing wrong with pot. AT ALL.

Pot is safer than all drugs.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Borracho on June 03, 2013, 03:21:07 PM
I've experimented with many substances and by far the one that's cause me more problems is alcohol when used in excess. But relying on any substance to get you through life is a weakness. We all have them I guess, you really do have to pick your poison but there are far worse options than weed.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Wiggs on June 03, 2013, 03:36:45 PM
I've experimented with many substances and by far the one that's cause me more problems is alcohol when used in excess. But relying on any substance to get you through life is a weakness. We all have them I guess, you really do have to pick your poison but there are far worse options than weed.

I never knew how many people are dependent of substances until I got out of the military almost 5 years ago. Whether it's wine, booze, pills or hard shit. There are obvious problems and it's not coming from just one demographic, it's everyone. Rich, poor, black, white, straight, gay.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Borracho on June 03, 2013, 03:43:32 PM
I never knew how many people are dependent of substances until I got out of the military almost 5 years ago. Whether it's wine, booze, pills or hard shit. There are obvious problems and it's not coming from just one demographic, it's everyone. Rich, poor, black, white, straight, gay.

Yeah but it's not only chemicals. Chances are if there's something you enjoy doing and do it often you will get hooked. This can be food, exercise, gambling, drugs, internet etc.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 03, 2013, 03:49:52 PM
Yeah but it's not only chemicals. Chances are if there's something you enjoy doing and do it often you will get hooked. This can be food, exercise, gambling, drugs, internet etc.
If you wake up from sleep, everyone is addicted to something. Nature of the human being, of course somethings are worse than others.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Borracho on June 03, 2013, 03:52:59 PM
If you wake up from sleep, everyone is addicted to something. Nature of the human being, of course somethings are worse than others.

That's exactly it.

Hell, if I don't hit the gym after few days I start getting withdrawal symptoms lol
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Wiggs on June 03, 2013, 03:54:52 PM
Man o man, could you imagine the people if the supply of all drugs and alcohol dried up, Lets say from...Economic collapse? People coming off SSRIs    :-X People stopping cold turkey years of opiate and benzo abuse  :-X Meth and Heroin addicts  :-X :-X :-X Even people from cigarettes. Here is your zombie apocalypse.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: deadpan on June 03, 2013, 03:58:55 PM
Man o man, could you imagine the people if the supply of all drugs and alcohol dried up, Lets say from...Economic collapse? People coming off SSRIs    :-X People stopping cold turkey years of opiate and benzo abuse  :-X Meth and Heroin addicts  :-X :-X :-X Even people from cigarettes. Here is your zombie apocalypse.

hell you can have a seizure and die if you come off benzos cold turkey
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Wiggs on June 03, 2013, 04:01:20 PM
hell you can have a seizure and die if you come off benzos cold turkey

I know. I never liked it. It just made me extremely sleepy. I used to know people that pop this shit little breath mints.
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Post by: Mr Nobody on June 03, 2013, 04:02:01 PM
Man o man, could you imagine the people if the supply of all drugs and alcohol dried up, Lets say from...Economic collapse? People coming off SSRIs    :-X People stopping cold turkey years of opiate and benzo abuse  :-X Meth and Heroin addicts  :-X :-X :-X Even people from cigarettes. Here is your zombie apocalypse.
Exacty economy collapse, how much money goes into addictions, not to mention drug rehabs and the government making money off prison's and such.
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Post by: Borracho on June 03, 2013, 04:03:15 PM
Too much money to be made I don't think it'll ever happen. lol

Would be a trip though.
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Post by: Wiggs on June 03, 2013, 04:06:31 PM
Too much money to be made I don't think it'll ever happen. lol

Would be a trip though.

That would be an awesome movie and an awesome book...
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Post by: deadpan on June 03, 2013, 04:07:35 PM
I know. I never liked it. It just made me extremely sleepy. I used to know people that pop this shit little breath mints.

i like kpins every now and then for certain social situations. but you gotta take breaks to make sure the tolerance doesn't build
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Post by: syntaxmachine on June 28, 2013, 06:03:19 AM
wrong.

nothing of his nature has ever been found, in fact it's the opposite. Also, comparing nicotine to cannabinoids is stupid.

Have you been able to discern any effect on cognitive function as a result of your use (e.g., ability to remember things, speed and accuracy of reasoning).
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: 240_Iz_Nutz on June 28, 2013, 06:09:09 AM
I didn't read the whole thread. I do know that weed smokers just do not quit. All the people I know who have gotten into it smoke practically around the clock.
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Post by: hipolito mejia on June 28, 2013, 07:45:43 AM
I didn't read the whole thread. I do know that weed smokers just do not quit. All the people I know who have gotten into it smoke practically around the clock.


This.
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Post by: Necrosis on June 28, 2013, 08:04:17 AM
Have you been able to discern any effect on cognitive function as a result of your use (e.g., ability to remember things, speed and accuracy of reasoning).

yes, it impairs my memory and accuracy of reasoning. It's positives outweigh that however.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Archer77 on June 28, 2013, 08:39:05 AM
I enjoy a little ganja from time to time but like all things moderation is the key. 
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Post by: MP on June 28, 2013, 11:13:36 AM
I enjoy a little ganja from time to time but like all things moderation is the key. 

This.
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Post by: Gregzs on August 03, 2013, 03:48:40 PM
Kings of Cannabis trailer

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Post by: dustin on August 03, 2013, 04:36:26 PM
I'm pumped. My designated grower just chopped the trees down and they're drying now. I've got a medical marijuana exemption and used to grow myself but because I bought a house it was too much trouble driving across town. This is the first grow with a designated grower and he's done a great job from the look of things. We'll do one more grow and then my license will be expired though.

Weed is super cheap in Canada because of the new laws coming next year. Tons of people are selling their equipment and people who can grow legally are growing and pumping out as much as possible. $1000 for a pound everywhere. My garage is half full of brand new grow equipment that I can't get rid of. Fucking blows. I've got enough gear to do a hundred plant grow but if it's not legal, I'm not going to risk it. Might make a microcabinet and just grow a couple baby plants as a side project but nothing big. Anything more than 6 plants is a mandatory minimum of around a year and they'd probably take my house so fuck that.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Red29 on August 03, 2013, 04:44:48 PM
:o :o :o

$100 a quarter is a good deal in my part of town nowadays. strong stuff though, i didn't mind paying it. but dayum!

lol i paid 75 for a q the other day. its gone already lol
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Red29 on August 03, 2013, 04:50:08 PM
I'm pumped. My designated grower just chopped the trees down and they're drying now. I've got a medical marijuana exemption and used to grow myself but because I bought a house it was too much trouble driving across town. This is the first grow with a designated grower and he's done a great job from the look of things. We'll do one more grow and then my license will be expired though.

Weed is super cheap in Canada because of the new laws coming next year. Tons of people are selling their equipment and people who can grow legally are growing and pumping out as much as possible. $1000 for a pound everywhere. My garage is half full of brand new grow equipment that I can't get rid of. Fucking blows. I've got enough gear to do a hundred plant grow but if it's not legal, I'm not going to risk it. Might make a microcabinet and just grow a couple baby plants as a side project but nothing big. Anything more than 6 plants is a mandatory minimum of around a year and they'd probably take my house so fuck that.


this sounds epic man ill bet your excited as hell. i cant imagine how much you are going to smoke bro i just cannot imagine. light a couple up for me man im dry and taking a little break!
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: 240_Iz_Nutz on August 03, 2013, 04:53:32 PM
I have done all kinds of stupid shit in my life. Weed just messes me up. I would rather drink thirty Redbull and vodkas than mess with that stuff. Does not work to make me relax. The problem to me with pot is that many people just live on it all day during work and shit. You can't have a couple drinks, but you can get high as fuck every chance you get. I do understand this goes on with other drugs. Potheads are just annoying.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Red29 on August 03, 2013, 05:01:48 PM
I have done all kinds of stupid shit in my life. Weed just messes me up. I would rather drink thirty Redbull and vodkas than mess with that stuff. Does not work to make me relax. The problem to me with pot is that many people just live on it all day during work and shit. You can't have a couple drinks, but you can get high as fuck every chance you get. I do understand this goes on with other drugs. Potheads are just annoying.


hmm. that means that the singular time you tried weed, you didnt do it right.

trust me. i dont care what ANYONE says. if you have tried weed once and dislike it, you havent smoked it properly or in sufficient quantity. smoke a whole blunt of nice exotic and watch some TV after a long day. then go an make some food. Can't be beaten bro.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Marty Champions on August 03, 2013, 05:06:45 PM
smoke of anykind causes enough microscopic tumors to fuck up the electricity flowing pathways of your body that was in perfect design until you fuck it up with meat and smoke
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: nosbp2 on August 03, 2013, 05:11:37 PM
I've tried weed with a few friends 2 years ago, I kept smoking weekly with them for like 5 months or so back then, but I could easily quit it, not sure if it wasn't enough time for being addict, but I just didn't feel the need of it in my life, even tho I like acid from time to time :D with or without wouldn't make a diff for me, so I chose to quit smoking, but my friends kept going, we usually smoked 1 or 2 joints at weekends, now some of them are smoking like 6 or 7 a day lol, based on them I'd say it is addictive, tho they say they aren't addict  ;D
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: 240_Iz_Nutz on August 03, 2013, 05:14:50 PM

hmm. that means that the singular time you tried weed, you didnt do it right.

trust me. i dont care what ANYONE says. if you have tried weed once and dislike it, you havent smoked it properly or in sufficient quantity. smoke a whole blunt of nice exotic and watch some TV after a long day. then go an make some food. Can't be beaten bro.

Dude. My brother is a huge smoker. My ex GF went from wake and back to bedtime. I've smoked a little more than one time.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Red29 on August 03, 2013, 05:24:09 PM
Dude. My brother is a huge smoker. My ex GF went from wake and back to bedtime. I've smoked a little more than one time.

was making a generalized comment
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Post by: Wiggs on August 03, 2013, 05:24:14 PM
Dude. My brother is a huge smoker. My ex GF went from wake and back to bedtime. I've smoked a little more than one time.

My first time smoking was equal to a mental rape experience. I will never forget it. I tried again 4 months later and it progressively got more "fun". Then I discovered food, then I discovered music. Then I discovered the lack of stress and relaxation, then social benefits if you are a natural introvert like me. This stuff has too many benefits for us not to be using it. They know this. It would put the paper industry out of business just on the hemp side alone saving trees! And it would severely cripple the pharmaceutical industry. This is why it's not federally legal. But the people have finally said Fuck you, you're wrong and we're doing it anyway!

I'm high, sorry for the ramble.  8)
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Post by: dustin on August 03, 2013, 05:58:55 PM

this sounds epic man ill bet your excited as hell. i cant imagine how much you are going to smoke bro i just cannot imagine. light a couple up for me man im dry and taking a little break!

It's good and bad. I didn't grow anything for a couple of years despite holding a license and as soon as I got a designated grower that I trust, we only have the opportunity to squeeze out two grows before the license expires. He'll probably go underground and just grow illegally and I'll have $10,000 worth of equipment that I probably won't get more than a couple thousand for. Lights, hoods, reflectors, digital ballasts, tons of shit sitting in my garage wasting space. Almost ready to leave it on the side of the road and let the scavengers pick it up. All my equipment's only been used for a couple of grows, some of it I haven't even used. :(
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Red29 on August 03, 2013, 06:02:01 PM
It's good and bad. I didn't grow anything for a couple of years despite holding a license and as soon as I got a designated grower that I trust, we only have the opportunity to squeeze out two grows before the license expires. He'll probably go underground and just grow illegally and I'll have $10,000 worth of equipment that I probably won't get more than a couple thousand for. Lights, hoods, reflectors, digital ballasts, tons of shit sitting in my garage wasting space. Almost ready to leave it on the side of the road and let the scavengers pick it up. All my equipment's only been used for a couple of grows, some of it I haven't even used. :(


damn man that sucks. but hey at least you it some right?? and besides you'll have so much damn bud you wont even need to grow or buy for many many months
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Gregzs on August 24, 2013, 12:21:12 PM
Kings of Cannabis full documentary

Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Gregzs on February 21, 2014, 06:10:01 PM
http://laughingsquid.com/clever-girl-scout-does-brisk-business-selling-cookies-outside-a-san-francisco-cannabis-dispensary/

Clever Girl Scout Does Brisk Business Selling Cookies Outside a San Francisco Cannabis Dispensary

On Monday 13-year-old Girl Scout Danielle Lei set up a table outside The Green Cross, a cannabis dispensary in San Francisco, and sold 117 boxes of Girl Scout cookies in 2 hours. Lei was accompanied by her mother, who had cleared the endeavor with the dispensary in advance. When contacted by Mashable, the Girl Scouts of Northern California said they had no problem with Lei’s endeavor, though the Girl Scouts of Colorado recently tweeted that they forbid Girl Scouts in their state from selling outside of a dispensary.

(http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/1781429_743488705669748_707264239_o-640x626.jpg)
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Post by: dustin on February 21, 2014, 07:27:20 PM
http://laughingsquid.com/clever-girl-scout-does-brisk-business-selling-cookies-outside-a-san-francisco-cannabis-dispensary/

Clever Girl Scout Does Brisk Business Selling Cookies Outside a San Francisco Cannabis Dispensary

On Monday 13-year-old Girl Scout Danielle Lei set up a table outside The Green Cross, a cannabis dispensary in San Francisco, and sold 117 boxes of Girl Scout cookies in 2 hours. Lei was accompanied by her mother, who had cleared the endeavor with the dispensary in advance. When contacted by Mashable, the Girl Scouts of Northern California said they had no problem with Lei’s endeavor, though the Girl Scouts of Colorado recently tweeted that they forbid Girl Scouts in their state from selling outside of a dispensary.

(http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/1781429_743488705669748_707264239_o-640x626.jpg)

That little girl is smart as fuck. If they had dispensaries like that in Canada, I'd sit outside with a small food cart and sell authentic Asian food to all of them.
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Post by: Gregzs on February 21, 2014, 07:34:55 PM
That little girl is smart as fuck. If they had dispensaries like that in Canada, I'd sit outside with a small food cart and sell authentic Asian food to all of them.

Food trucks are the way to go now. You'll have plenty to sell and you don't have to stand out in the cold.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: 240 is Back on February 21, 2014, 07:52:30 PM
Getting too high is definitely a killer but some people could use those extra paranoid thoughts

I dont smoke weed, and I'm paranoid as a MFer lol.   I follow the law 100%.  I even count to 3 at stop signs.
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Post by: V Man on February 22, 2014, 03:57:47 AM
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Van_Bilderass on February 22, 2014, 04:10:10 AM
Never before seen Dorian pics. Before and after.

Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: irishdave on February 22, 2014, 04:25:44 AM
Stop smoking is for cigarettes. Weed smoke short and long term causes no damage unlike cigarettes.

Oh c'mon man I smoke a fair bit of weed myself and of course the smoke is bad for you, you're so delusional about stuff
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Post by: Natural Beast on February 22, 2014, 04:35:08 AM
yates is the man
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Necrosis on February 22, 2014, 06:03:45 AM
Oh c'mon man I smoke a fair bit of weed myself and of course the smoke is bad for you, you're so delusional about stuff

I can straddle both worlds professional and drug addict, what wiggs is saying is that all the studies looking at MJ combustion and inhalation as MOD shows no increase in lung disease, or cancer. Is it still creating REDOX in your lungs yes, but MJ is protective and a potent anti-cancer.
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Post by: irishdave on February 22, 2014, 06:37:09 AM
I can straddle both worlds professional and drug addict, what wiggs is saying is that all the studies looking at MJ combustion and inhalation as MOD shows no increase in lung disease, or cancer. Is it still creating REDOX in your lungs yes, but MJ is protective and a potent anti-cancer.


Yeah but we smoke weed with tobacco here
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Post by: The Wizard of Truth on February 22, 2014, 06:58:38 AM
pollen is the way to go
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: eldoradospandex on February 22, 2014, 07:58:42 AM
As the two irish lads above me said, we put tobacco into our scuds here, so I gave up smoking weed when I gave up smoking cigarettes

Smoked daily from 18 to 22, no bother giving up

the tobacco was a girl tho
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: hipolito mejia on February 22, 2014, 02:36:32 PM
Stop smoking is for cigarettes. Weed smoke short and long term causes no damage unlike cigarettes.


Lol.  Quit already. 
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: dustin on February 22, 2014, 02:45:23 PM
pollen is the way to go

It's okay but way different high. Very different concentration of cannabinoids. When you cut out the terpenes and smell, you cut out something inherently "marijuana"... that's the way I feel at least. I love curing buds in jars and smelling them as they ripen. Most people don't have the patience and discipline to have jars full of delicious weed sitting around untouched, but I always do this and it's like visiting a fine tobacco shoppe. Or wine, that's a good comparison.

I'm not a snob, but there's no disputing that nothing is greater than busting up a couple of gorgeous nuggets and getting hit with a pungent aroma. That's why I look forward to. Sometimes when I get spare time, I just roll a bunch of perfectly cylindrical joints without smoking any of them. The process of rolling them and smelling all the different notes is therapeutic. Maybe when I'm older I'll take up knitting or arts and crafts. Similar concept lol 8)
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Post by: Oly15 on February 22, 2014, 03:33:15 PM
It's okay but way different high. Very different concentration of cannabinoids. When you cut out the terpenes and smell, you cut out something inherently "marijuana"... that's the way I feel at least. I love curing buds in jars and smelling them as they ripen. Most people don't have the patience and discipline to have jars full of delicious weed sitting around untouched, but I always do this and it's like visiting a fine tobacco shoppe. Or wine, that's a good comparison.

I'm not a snob, but there's no disputing that nothing is greater than busting up a couple of gorgeous nuggets and getting hit with a pungent aroma. That's why I look forward to. Sometimes when I get spare time, I just roll a bunch of perfectly cylindrical joints without smoking any of them. The process of rolling them and smelling all the different notes is therapeutic. Maybe when I'm older I'll take up knitting or arts and crafts. Similar concept lol 8)

Dude that sounds fun as fuck. And I agree there is nothing like the smell of fresh bud, its a kind of healthy smell too
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Post by: JediTerminator on February 23, 2014, 07:35:44 AM
Lots of good crop where I'm from.

Mainly what goes around is Kush, Sour Diesel, White Rhino, Purple Haze and then you get a bunch of outdoor floating around.

Prices are expensive as fuck on a street buyer level. Qs being $70.

Makes sense to always buy an oz or more at a time, especially if it's potent.

I smoke about a gram a day. it's the most effective medicine I've ever used
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Post by: dustin on February 23, 2014, 02:49:27 PM
Lots of good crop where I'm from.

Mainly what goes around is Kush, Sour Diesel, White Rhino, Purple Haze and then you get a bunch of outdoor floating around.

Prices are expensive as fuck on a street buyer level. Qs being $70.

Makes sense to always buy an oz or more at a time, especially if it's potent.

I smoke about a gram a day. it's the most effective medicine I've ever used

Nice. The first plants I ever grew were Master Kush and Sour Diesel about 4-5 years ago or whenever it was that I got my medicinal license. I threw my room up much too quickly and ran into some troubles. Partner flipped out and trashed the room like a fucking cry baby, but the few days the plants didn't have light during the flowering stage they blew up with trichomes. It stunted their growth but I still got great bud because I flushed, dried, trimmed and cured it properly which I think is almost half the battle (and a huge opportunity that commercial growers don't care to capitalize on).

I grew another couple of crops with the room more dialed in and it's great. I still have a couple of grams of the Master Kush that I couldn't smoke. I just saved it forever, forgot about it and it's still good. Smoked a little lol. It's amazing how the buds change after a period of time. Some hypercritical c-u-n-t-s will cry that THC will degrade over that period of time but if it's high enough, the amount will be negligible and you couldn't discern any difference without mass spectrometry.

Sadly when I bought my house I lost the other place I was growing in as it was too far away and I still had my old residence to look after. Didn't want to grow in my new place and bring it's value down. People will cry mold and wiring problems and bring the value down a fuckton so I never went there. But I cry every time I look in my garage and see boxes stacked to the ceiling with barely used grow equipment. Aside from the higher priced parts like the digital ballasts, I'm almost thinking of just leaving them with the local hydroponics stores and telling them to dig in. Health Canada is taking away the rights of growers because the program's been abused too much (because they left it open for abuse so it could be shut down). I had a designated grower but he only did 1 grow and said he's going with another patient as he had a 1000 plant limit (versus my 25 plant limit). So I have just half a pound left of that harvest. I normally buy bigger amounts and sit on it if it's really good, keeping it in jars and watching the relative humidity. You can get humidors and cool tobacco products to keep your buds in tip top condition and that's the way I like storing mine. 8)
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Post by: Gregzs on February 27, 2015, 09:45:48 PM
Jamaica Legalizes Pot, Finally

http://www.thrillist.com/travel/nation/jamaica-s-parliament-finally-legalizes-pot-in-small-amounts

Quick, raise your hand if you knew pot was illegal in Jamaica. And be honest.

Jamaicans have been growing and smoking weed for so long it's hard to imagine anything more synonymous with the Caribbean island (maybe Bob Marley? The beaches? Bobsled!) than ganja. Yet amazingly, until yesterday it was totally against the law.

No more. Last night, the Jamaican parliament finally took Peter Tosh's advice and voted to legalize it. The Associated Press reports that Jamaica’s governor-general will officially sign the act -- which decriminalizes small amounts of marijuana -- into law in the next few days. Additionally, a “cannabis licensing authority” will be established to regulate medical marijuana.

So, what do you need to know before your big trip to Sandals Montego Bay? Simple, while it'll be totally legit to light up, getting caught with more than two ounces of Mary Jane (do people still say that?) remains a petty offense; you can only have five or less plants growing in your hotel room; and finally, no dealing abroad is allowed, in case you had any ideas.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: BigRo on February 28, 2015, 02:35:25 AM
Stop smoking is for cigarettes. Weed smoke short and long term causes no damage unlike cigarettes.

theres more tar from smoking weed than tobacco...
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: Ropo on March 03, 2015, 02:13:10 AM
DID YOU EVEN READ YOUR OWN LINK?! SRS QUESTION.

"Although cannabis smoke contains many of the same carcinogens as tobacco smoke,[77] current scientific data supports the possibility that cannabis smoking may not induce cancer.[78] Of the various methods of cannabis consumption, smoking is considered the most harmful; the inhalation of smoke from organic materials can cause various health problems (e.g., coughing and sputum). Isoprenes help to modulate and slow down reaction rates, contributing to the significantly differing qualities of partial combustion products from various sources.[79][80] Compared to tobacco much less cannabis material in weight is burned, with the average hand rolled cigarette at about 1 gram, tobacco or cannabis. Commercial cigarettes have numerous additives, many of which modify combustion in such a way to create a very consistent aerosol at any given air flow rate, perhaps to maximize nicotine delivery/bio-availability, and thus reduce total amount of smoke consumed to nicotine crossing the blood brain barrier. A relative abundance of terpenes and other higher molecular weight, adhesive molecules results in a smoke with higher mean particle size, as well as a corresponding higher deposition rate of particulate matter. This means more is deposited on the bronchioles, and larger airways, which the lungs can clear easier, as less of the very fine, highly toxic amorphous particles reach the delicate alveoli. Cilia cannot "sweep" up the combustion products effectively. Subjective lung irritation not based upon the amount of matter crossing the semipermeable gas exchange surfaces deep in the lungs, rather the primary factor is amount of matter which adheres to motile cilium. This also contributes to a noted expectorant effect of any smoke to some extent, due to the defense system the mucus membranes in the lungs possess. The study concluded: "A significant interaction revealed that the impact of a vaporizer was larger as the amount of cannabis used increased. These data suggest that the safety of cannabis can increase with the use of a vaporizer. Regular users of joints, blunts, pipes, and water pipes might decrease respiratory symptoms by switching to a vaporizer".[81] Another study found vaporizers to be "a safe and effective cannabinoid delivery system."[82][83]

In a 20-year study of 5,000 young adults, researchers found that, unlike tobacco use, smoking cannabis once a week or a bit more doesn't harm the lungs, with less clear results regarding heavy users due to a lack of very heavy users in the study. In fact, the study found that occasional cannabis use actually increases both lung capacity and volume over the years, possibly because cannabis smokers often take deep breaths, which exercises lung tissue. The correlation only decreased after the equivalent of about ten years of smoking cannabis once a day. Only lung volume and capacity were examined, not throat irritation, coughing, or lung cancer.[84]"

Do you want to see a study which proves that cigarettes aren't harmful at all, or study which proves that DDT is complete harmless for the people? My favorite is a study which proves that men who smokes one cigar per day are healthier than those, who doesn't smoke at all. Why? Because I smoke a cigar every now and then, and know how relaxing it is as a fact, and everything relaxing will lower stress levels, so it is good to your health in the long run. Or is it? What comes that study about the weed, it make some claims based on the fact that these 5000 smoke cannabis one joint once a week. Who does that? Is it some kind of national law that you can smoke only one joint per week? How about two? If I smoke one cigarette per week, will it be as harmful than smoke 20 per day? Even ape can learn to read, but to understand what you have read, that is the part where you need some brain capacity. You can smoke one cigar per week inhaling it, and it has no long term effects to you what so ever, but what happen if you smoke more? Also nothing? How stupid man can be?? Do you know what "zero research" means?

Why it is always easier to adopt pro cannabis claims, than the facts which proves negative effects? If I link here 25 000 studies which completely proves that cannabis has negative health effects, all that can be overruled by linking one page of pro cannabis propaganda? Why it is like that? Because as I have repeatedly said, internet has given a voice for incredibly stupid people, and that we all should notice every fucking time we open www. When some one write an argument in the internet, people who comments it wouldn't be at the same level as him, more likely they are from that bunch who IQ is smaller than their shoe size.  Why? Because their number is large, because this world is filled with drooling idiots who just can't comprehend simplest things   ;D
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Post by: devilsmile on March 03, 2015, 02:38:26 AM
I recently woke up to THE FACT that weed smoking increases lung and throat cancer risk. And it's pschologically addicting.

The tar will stay in your lunges for a very long ass time, and it will take away from your oxygen intake. There's a reason why pro athletes don't smoke anything. They may party a lot once a year and treat themselves, but then it's back to reality. Smoking anything is very bad for your lunges.
Title: Re: For weed smokers ...
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on March 03, 2015, 12:47:27 PM
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