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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: Shockwave on August 01, 2013, 05:11:40 PM
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Considering doing this since it seems legit Tren is so hard to come by. Any of you regulars tried this? Any experiences? They sell a fucking kit on amazon, or used to anyway.
Mods - please dont move this to the roid board, I want the opinions of some of the G&O guys.
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Considering doing this since it seems legit Tren is so hard to come by. Any of you regulars tried this? Any experiences? They sell a fucking kit on amazon, or used to anyway.
Mods - please dont move this to the roid board, I want the opinions of some of the G&O guys.
from what I undestand, the govt squashed that shit a while back, you can't get the pellets anymore
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from what I undestand, the govt squashed that shit a while back, you can't get the pellets anymore
really? Weaksauce. I saw them a couple years ago when I was considering running a cycle. Never got around to it though.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/finepix-h-/330972351190?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d0f7d4ad6 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/finepix-h-/330972351190?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d0f7d4ad6)
A real bargain.
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Considering doing this since it seems legit Tren is so hard to come by. Any of you regulars tried this? Any experiences? They sell a fucking kit on amazon, or used to anyway.
Mods - please dont move this to the roid board, I want the opinions of some of the G&O guys.
they still sell them..perfectly legal to use. that said i would not reccomend it, its unsterile, dangerous, and there is plenty of legit tren out there. you dont need tren dude..... In the 1990's guys used parabolan, usually 2-3 amps per week pre contest usually....they all looked amazing
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Nothing wrong w cooking your own.
This should be moved to the steroid section.
Tren is great
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Basskilleronline has your info
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/finepix-h-/330972351190?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d0f7d4ad6 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/finepix-h-/330972351190?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d0f7d4ad6)
A real bargain.
too bad I dont have a grand to drop on fina, lol
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dont they lace that shit with estrogen now or some shit.
http://www.superiormuscle.com/forums/anabolic-steroids/55073-converting-new-revalor-200-into-tren-ace
fuck all that work. easy enough just to buy pre made.
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Basskilleronline has your info
This. I have cooked my own a couple times and cooked it for some buddies. Real easy if you follow his steps. It was legit tren too. But I get terrible sides from tren so now I have 2 50ml bottles just sitting in my closet.
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Yes and it's easy from what I remember.
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This. I have cooked my own a couple times and cooked it for some buddies. Real easy if you follow his steps. It was legit tren too. But I get terrible sides from tren so now I have 2 50ml bottles just sitting in my closet.
pm'd with some questions bro.
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Basskilleronline has your info
Basskilleronline? Is the info in a post on this site under his handle? Or on a different site?
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Maybe you should focus on career and family rather than sliding into 'lowly user of illegal drugs' status once again.
HRT should be enough brah
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Maybe you should focus on career and family rather than sliding into 'lowly user of illegal drugs' status once again.
HRT should be enough brah
Actually just started HRT, turned out my years of rec drug abuse fucked my endocrine system. That is why I was looking at adding an additional compound to expedite the fat loss, as I put on a bunch of weight when my wife got pregnant and I got off the dope. But you do have a point on the second half.
As far as family goes, my wife and I are becoming gym rats together, it's the big thing we do together. She's loss 50 lbs, I've lost 60, and were both trying to get to low double digit BF. So this is kind of a way we bond, ironically enough. Plus she's smoking hot again (way beyond what I should be able to pull, lol), so I do anything I can to encourage her.
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chicken method
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well yeah, if itd for gymrst purpose just hrt keeping things simple.
if you got off the dope recently , trust me your liver and kidneys will need some 6months to recover fully, dont put tren into this recovery.
and the fatter you are the less fasvours you do to yourself with adding more gear for fatloss, more gear can hinder fatloss when one is chubby.
youll have to go through it with hunger as best frend.best find some activity for activeness(not just lifting)which you enjoy.for me was bycycle and swimming(got the body to back that up lol).
you could t3, but thats a dead end.
you could efedrine, but thsts an amphetamine.
diet beats fatburners.
been off the dope for a long while now. Thats not an issue. Already on t3, had several bottles leftover from years ago, just running 50mcg/daily along with the 250mg/week HRT.
Goal is really just low double digit BF, im currently 260 @ probably 26%, down from 310 at god knows what. Im 6'3". I dont particularly care how big I am, I just want the fat gone. Whatever I can do to aid the fatloss is my goal. My diet is already squared away.
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Good luck shockwave, hope you post your progress here bro.
Question: can you still take stimulants like caffeine/ephedrine or is this a no-no considering your past? ECA = FATLOSS magic
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Actually just started HRT, turned out my years of rec drug abuse fucked my endocrine system. That is why I was looking at adding an additional compound to expedite the fat loss, as I put on a bunch of weight when my wife got pregnant and I got off the dope. But you do have a point on the second half.
As far as family goes, my wife and I are becoming gym rats together, it's the big thing we do together. She's loss 50 lbs, I've lost 60, and were both trying to get to low double digit BF. So this is kind of a way we bond, ironically enough. Plus she's smoking hot again (way beyond what I should be able to pull, lol), so I do anything I can to encourage her.
(In brief): It makes zero sense to start cooking up tren if you're overweight and plan to use it for enhanced fat loss.
(Enhanced version): It makes zero sense to spend hundreds of dollars converting your kitchen into a mini-UGL, cooking up the harshest steroid on the planet when you already have access to pharmaceutical grade test, have already done significant physical damage to yourself and evince psychological vulnerability to addition, and have a child to take care of.
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Good luck shockwave, hope you post your progress here bro.
Question: can you still take stimulants like caffeine/ephedrine or is this a no-no considering your past? ECA = FATLOSS magic
I wont use stimulants. ... I used ECA when I was first trying to get the weight off (after i got clean) about a year ago, all it did was make me feel like butthole and crave meth. Needless to say, that is out.
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I wont use stimulants. ... I used ECA when I was first trying to get the weight off (after i got clean) about a year ago, all it did was make me feel like butthole and crave meth. Needless to say, that is out.
Oh damn.
Well in that case, ECA is over rated bro, you're not missing out on anything! :D
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(In brief): It makes zero sense to start cooking up tren if you're overweight and plan to use it for enhanced fat loss.
(Enhanced version): It makes zero sense to spend hundreds of dollars converting your kitchen into a mini-UGL, cooking up the harshest steroid on the planet when you already have access to pharmaceutical grade test, have already done significant physical damage to yourself and evince psychological vulnerability to addition, and have a child to take care of.
touche. I tbink it has to do with that "balls to the wall" mentality that ive fought my whole life... it drives me to do great things, but it is also incredibly destructive when I have trouble controlling it.
I find I have an extremely hard time with balance... im trying to make workibg out and school my new addiction (my company is paying for me to get a mech engineering degree), but I have a hard time moderating myself when I get into stuff. I have to replace my unhealthy addictiob, when I dont I seem to default right bacl to drugs.
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Syntax did have a good point about your choice of gear. Most guys would recommend not touching tren until you're single digits....it can be brutal dude. Hell it's brutal when you're lean and in shape and healthy.
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Syntax did have a good point about your choice of gear. Most guys would recommend not touching tren until you're single digits....it can be brutal dude. Hell it's brutal when you're lean and in shape and healthy.
What would you recommend that stacks well with low dose test and T3 and aids with fat loss?
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You don't need to spend $1000
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i'm gonna be the one to say 'fuck all that' and run 500-1000mg of test and 100-150mg tren ace m-w-f alternating 2-3wks on clen and ephedrine along with your t3.
if you wanna 'shrink', you may as well keep all your muscle and have energy and drive to get in the gym.
diet is a whole'nother thread...
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i'm gonna be the one to say 'fuck all that' and run 500-1000mg of test and 100-150mg tren ace m-w-f alternating 2-3wks on clen and ephedrine along with your t3.
if you wanna 'shrink', you may as well keep all your muscle and have energy and drive to get in the gym.
diet is a whole'nother thread...
I'm right with you...my first cycle ever was Tren A...LOL. fuck "waiting"
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Crush the pellets and and razor blade them like a fine powder, get a teaspoon of DMSO in a little dressing jar like the kind u get ranch dressing at a restaurant, turn on oven let it heat the metal on top of the stove with jar on stove top metal, put the ground pellets into the DMSO let them dissolve, then take a plastic spoon and pour into spoon in 1/4 measurement rub on shoulder and arms, one teaspoon makes four application servings, many say it doesn't absorb like this, but that's bullshit, u want to breakdown 10 to 20 pellets each application, I use to do this all the time, always worked great for me, everyone has their own opinions but this always was good method for me, straight into the muscle, yeah it's a meticulous process but I always liked this method, one cart would last me about a month, use the mint scented liquid DMSO, only one place on net carries it, fuck all that baking and bullshit, I always had great results like this
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Yeah, don't do that with the DMSO.
Crystallizing it with methanol is simple and yields 95%+ with no filler. Comp th, throw away the blue pill.
Very sterile unless you are mildly retarded, and much better than chanc ing it with dirty ug junk
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Tren doesn't make you lose fat.
A caloric deficit does.
Tren just makes it easier to hold on to muscle while dieting hard.
But you're already on HRT, if i would add anything, it would be more Test.
That's it.
Just keeping hitting the weights and do cardio.
Want faster results, cut some more calories.
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Tren doesn't make you lose fat.
A caloric deficit does.
Tren just makes it easier to hold on to muscle while dieting hard.
But you're already on HRT, if i would add anything, it would be more Test.
That's it.
Just keeping hitting the weights and do cardio.
Want faster results, cut some more calories.
Nah surely binging twice a week and eating nothing for the other 5 days would bring better results?
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A better body through using drugs. Why do I think this won't end up well?
You kids can blast me but I'm telling you that drugs are a temporary fix to your ego. All the juicers from my 20's are now in there 50's looking like they never trained a day in their life. One said,"Training feels like a waste of time without the drugs." Spend all you money cycling on and off for a decade then what do you have? You will have thrown a career away chasing the syringe life style. When your health starts to wane after years of cycling your body will look like crap. You will have to keep a picture of yourself in your wallet to show people because the person in front of them will be an out of shape slob.
What's wrong with lifting and running without drugs? Are you that much of a pussy that you can't look in shape without sticking a needle in your ass?
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A better body through using drugs. Why do I think this won't end up well?
You kids can blast me but I'm telling you that drugs are a temporary fix to your ego. All the juicers from my 20's are now in there 50's looking like they never trained a day in their life. One said,"Training feels like a waste of time without the drugs." Spend all you money cycling on and off for a decade then what do you have? You will have thrown a career away chasing the syringe life style. When your health starts to wane after years of cycling your body will look like crap. You will have to keep a picture of yourself in your wallet to show people because the person in front of them will be an out of shape slob.
What's wrong with lifting and running without drugs? Are you that much of a pussy that you can't look in shape without sticking a needle in your ass?
It's no use brah -- the getbig hivemind has decided this man should take more illegal drugs. Collective idiocy isn't amenable to rational persuasion.
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diet.
you better believe this.
do shittons of cardio.
can add winstrol to that, winny with bit test is quite excellent.
but the other 2 things above first and formost.
not that im necessarily still thinking of running tren, but if you paid attention ive already said thqt my diet is squared away. Chicken and red meat, small amount of oatmeal in the morning and lots of steamed cauliflower and broccoli
The idea was more to see what would supplmenet the fat loss well, not what would do the work for me. :)
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Crush the pellets and and razor blade them like a fine powder, get a teaspoon of DMSO in a little dressing jar like the kind u get ranch dressing at a restaurant, turn on oven let it heat the metal on top of the stove with jar on stove top metal, put the ground pellets into the DMSO let them dissolve, then take a plastic spoon and pour into spoon in 1/4 measurement rub on shoulder and arms, one teaspoon makes four application servings, many say it doesn't absorb like this, but that's bullshit, u want to breakdown 10 to 20 pellets each application, I use to do this all the time, always worked great for me, everyone has their own opinions but this always was good method for me, straight into the muscle, yeah it's a meticulous process but I always liked this method, one cart would last me about a month, use the mint scented liquid DMSO, only one place on net carries it, fuck all that baking and bullshit, I always had great results like this
This method also gives you the absolutely worst breath ever and a funky body smell.
However, if converting pellets it is a good idea to crush the pellets and razor blade them into fine powder BEFORE adding the "magic solution" (fucking Animal and his marketing scheme) to the mix.
Seeing the poster is on HRT with test Enan, it would be the best interest to match ester for ester and use Tren Enan as well. Unfortunately you will not get that from the pellets. I have found Tren Enan to be much easier on me than tren acetate (which pellets is) and I certainly do like the less pinning frequency as well.
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Mods please move this to the steroid board so we don't hear the pussies crying.
If the guy wants to run Tren let him run Tren
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A better body through using drugs. Why do I think this won't end up well?
You kids can blast me but I'm telling you that drugs are a temporary fix to your ego. All the juicers from my 20's are now in there 50's looking like they never trained a day in their life. One said,"Training feels like a waste of time without the drugs." Spend all you money cycling on and off for a decade then what do you have? You will have thrown a career away chasing the syringe life style. When your health starts to wane after years of cycling your body will look like crap. You will have to keep a picture of yourself in your wallet to show people because the person in front of them will be an out of shape slob.
What's wrong with lifting and running without drugs? Are you that much of a pussy that you can't look in shape without sticking a needle in your ass?
most guys in their 50' look like they never trained a day in their life...if they took some test they could change that.
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If you noticed I posted buy the mint aloe scented liquid DMSO only one place on net carries it, this kills 98% of the smell and breath!
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If you noticed I posted buy the mint aloe scented liquid DMSO only one place on net carries it, this kills 98% of the smell and breath!
yea, kills the smell to you.. but everybody else notices it. Like you've been out hunting vampires and bathing in garlic water with mint garlic shampoo and brushing your teeth with mint garlic toothpaste and drive to work with a mint garlic air freshener in your car. It's like spraying air freshener when you take a shit... you still smell shit, but it's a flowery shit. lol
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Wait how does rubbin this shit on your skin make your breath smell like ass??
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Wait how does rubbin this shit on your skin make your breath smell like ass??
dmso makes you smell like garlic. garlic breath, garlic body odor, ect... even if youshower 3x/day and brush your teeth.
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dmso makes you smell like garlic. garlic breath, garlic body odor, ect... even if youshower 3x/day and brush your teeth.
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I prefer making my own tren. Unfortunately finaplix is expensive as hell these days, but you can simply buy Component TH with Tylan for 120 bucks - remove the antibiotic pellet before you start your conversion then boom!
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Honestly I can understand where the OP is coming from. Everybody wants to do things that we all know are not healthy for us. I do believe that running tren at 26% body fat is a bad idea for multiple health reasons including High blood pressure, lowering good cholesterol, and raising bad cholesterol. I don't need to recite the health effects of tren though im sure every one knows. But I would recommend getting a nutritionist and a personal trainer before dumping all that money on making your own tren. If you are hell bent on taking tren I would say its a must that you get a blood analysis to see how your liver, kidneys, and cholesterol are doing before you run it and at the middle of your cycle. I believe personally that you never know when your body is going to shit out on you and respond horrible to a certain drug. So those blood tests could save your life at some point when your considering running extremely harsh steroids that are home made. Like I said I can't blame anyone for wanting to use any certain drug but I would say that its possible to get your weight down naturally. And if you do that and get to at least 17 percent body fat you will see better results from the tren and you will be happier with the out come of the cycle. Tren does fuck with the ability to do cardio also so I really don't think its the magic fat burner people make it out to be in the long run. Especially since some users have claimed it down regulates natural production of T3. Well this is my advice. Tren is probably the best fat burner out of all steroids im not downplaying its reputation. I just believe that its a temporary fix like others have said. And I recommended getting bloods drawn because of your past you stated with using drugs. Just since you appear healthy doesn't mean you are. Better safe than sorry.
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Honestly I can understand where the OP is coming from. Everybody wants to do things that we all know are not healthy for us. I do believe that running tren at 26% body fat is a bad idea for multiple health reasons including High blood pressure, lowering good cholesterol, and raising bad cholesterol. I don't need to recite the health effects of tren though im sure every one knows. But I would recommend getting a nutritionist and a personal trainer before dumping all that money on making your own tren. If you are hell bent on taking tren I would say its a must that you get a blood analysis to see how your liver, kidneys, and cholesterol are doing before you run it and at the middle of your cycle. I believe personally that you never know when your body is going to shit out on you and respond horrible to a certain drug. So those blood tests could save your life at some point when your considering running extremely harsh steroids that are home made. Like I said I can't blame anyone for wanting to use any certain drug but I would say that its possible to get your weight down naturally. And if you do that and get to at least 17 percent body fat you will see better results from the tren and you will be happier with the out come of the cycle. Tren does fuck with the ability to do cardio also so I really don't think its the magic fat burner people make it out to be in the long run. Especially since some users have claimed it down regulates natural production of T3. Well this is my advice. Tren is probably the best fat burner out of all steroids im not downplaying its reputation. I just believe that its a temporary fix like others have said. And I recommended getting bloods drawn because of your past you stated with using drugs. Just since you appear healthy doesn't mean you are. Better safe than sorry.
Good info. As i've said in other posts, I already have the diet and training squared away. I've lost around 55 lbs (gained a few lbs of water when I started HRT)
It doesn't have to be Tren at this point, I'm really just looking for something that will complement the HRT (250mg/week) and t3 (50mcg/day) im running while I cut. Someone else mentioned Primo might be a good idea? I have no experience with exotic compounds, the most I've ever run was 750mg Test E and 300mg Deca EW, and that was 6 years ago.
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touche. I tbink it has to do with that "balls to the wall" mentality that ive fought my whole life... it drives me to do great things, but it is also incredibly destructive when I have trouble controlling it.
I find I have an extremely hard time with balance... im trying to make workibg out and school my new addiction (my company is paying for me to get a mech engineering degree), but I have a hard time moderating myself when I get into stuff. I have to replace my unhealthy addictiob, when I dont I seem to default right bacl to drugs.
The word moderation does not exist in our vocabulary.
This is the same old behaviors coming through here shocks...the anticipation and searching for more and more drugs. You know you don't need anything else atm just go all out with the training and diet brother.
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Good info. As i've said in other posts, I already have the diet and training squared away. I've lost around 55 lbs (gained a few lbs of water when I started HRT)
It doesn't have to be Tren at this point, I'm really just looking for something that will complement the HRT (250mg/week) and t3 (50mcg/day) im running while I cut. Someone else mentioned Primo might be a good idea? I have no experience with exotic compounds, the most I've ever run was 750mg Test E and 300mg Deca EW, and that was 6 years ago.
I wouldn't bother adding anything else until you bump that test dose for a while and see how you respond.
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I wouldn't bother adding anything else until you bump that test dose for a while and see how you respond.
Eh, I'd like to keep the test dosage low... I bloat terribly even at 500mg/wk Test E. For whatever reason, I'm one of those people that genetically carries a fuck ton of water unless I eat practically no carbs and very little sodium.
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Eh, I'd like to keep the test dosage low... I bloat terribly even at 500mg/wk Test E. For whatever reason, I'm one of those people that genetically carries a fuck ton of water unless I eat practically no carbs and very little sodium.
Oh yeah it will be even worse at your body fat level right now. You mentioned you don't care for size and just concerned with fat loss so I wonder why you're looking to add more aas in the mix...
Don't mean to come off as judgmental I'm just not seeing the logic behind it.
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maybe cycle caffeine and bronkaid for a month while you wait for your shipment of aas to come in the mail (assuming you're ordering online) so you'll bf levels will be lower by the time you start the added juice
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Oh yeah it will be even worse at your body fat level right now. You mentioned you don't care for size and just concerned with fat loss so I wonder why you're looking to add more aas in the mix...
Don't mean to come off as judgmental I'm just not seeing the logic behind it.
Mostly trying to add stuff that adds density/dryness as the fat comes off without the bloat, thats why I was looking at Tren. Someone else mentioned Primo in a PM, so I've been looking into that too. Basically trying to make the fat loss as efficient as possible and hold on to as much muscle as possible while drying out and hardening up. I'm not doing an extreme caloric deficit, going slow and smooth... I don't know if it's possible, but I'd like to try and increase density while im dropping the lbs. I've heard both things from two different trains of thought.
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Syntax did have a good point about your choice of gear. Most guys would recommend not touching tren until you're single digits....it can be brutal dude. Hell it's brutal when you're lean and in shape and healthy.
wouldnt call it brutal. more.... confusing lol. if your under 100mg EOD then i see no reason for you to get side effects. push it on up to 150mg EOD or higher. then the sides start. but also you look amazing lol
tell u what though. the acne i get coming off of tren... fuck me. its horrible. luckily its relegated to my back though
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Mostly trying to add stuff that adds density/dryness as the fat comes off without the bloat, thats why I was looking at Tren. Someone else mentioned Primo in a PM, so I've been looking into that too. Basically trying to make the fat loss as efficient as possible and hold on to as much muscle as possible while drying out and hardening up. I'm not doing an extreme caloric deficit, going slow and smooth... I don't know if it's possible, but I'd like to try and increase density while im dropping the lbs. I've heard both things from two different trains of thought.
Just keep in mind that at your current bf level it will be a while before you can appreciate any hardening or drying up of certain drugs. Also, certain health issues that have already been brought up in previous posts may arise even with the amount of test that you're running...who knows.
Whatever you decide to do just try to get regular blood work done and keep dieting.
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I appreciate all the info guys. After I've considered all the input and my own situation, I'm probably just going to run with 250mg/wk test until I get into the 12/15% range. I think I'll just invest in some clen and more t3.
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Mostly trying to add stuff that adds density/dryness as the fat comes off without the bloat, thats why I was looking at Tren. Someone else mentioned Primo in a PM, so I've been looking into that too. Basically trying to make the fat loss as efficient as possible and hold on to as much muscle as possible while drying out and hardening up. I'm not doing an extreme caloric deficit, going slow and smooth... I don't know if it's possible, but I'd like to try and increase density while im dropping the lbs. I've heard both things from two different trains of thought.
dont go for primo its almost all fake bro. i had some primo that turned out to be EQ lol
go for tren at like 100mgEOD and EQ 1cc EOD alongside that with low test.
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... then i'd vote to give metribolone a try for 3 weeks at 250mcg 2x/day along with clen at whatever dosage you can tolerate.
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You can definitely improve your physique more with out doing a blast cycle as one would call it since your on trt. Maybe hgh run at a fat loss promoting dose could be helpful. I mean looking at it from a medical stand point you are already on t3 and testosterone. If you where living in florida im pretty sure you would be able to get legit hgh to. At least Hgh is healthier and has actual fat loss effects that people notice compared to using a harsher steroid. Also masteron from what I have researched about it is interesting. It will lessen water retention and estrogenic side effects. People say you have to be at around 6 % body fat to notice its hardening effects. But possibly some one in your situation could use masteron which would lessen water retention along side a slightly higher level of testosterone and add in a moderate amount of hgh. Lol im not recommending you do any of this. Im just honestly commenting about hypothetical cycles that would benefit a person in your situation more so than tren pellets would. My truthful advice is the same as I first mentioned just changing up diet and exercise strategies.
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You can definitely improve your physique more with out doing a blast cycle as one would call it since your on trt. Maybe hgh run at a fat loss promoting dose could be helpful. I mean looking at it from a medical stand point you are already on t3 and testosterone. If you where living in florida im pretty sure you would be able to get legit hgh to. At least Hgh is healthier and has actual fat loss effects that people notice compared to using a harsher steroid. Also masteron from what I have researched about it is interesting. It will lessen water retention and estrogenic side effects. People say you have to be at around 6 % body fat to notice its hardening effects. But possibly some one in your situation could use masteron which would lessen water retention along side a slightly higher level of testosterone and add in a moderate amount of hgh. Lol im not recommending you do any of this. Im just honestly commenting about hypothetical cycles that would benefit a person in your situation more so than tren pellets would. My truthful advice is the same as I first mentioned just changing up diet and exercise strategies.
Great advice MS...you need to post more dude.
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Thank you man I appreciate it. I check the steroid forum every day here. Lol so im always trying to absorb the knowledge you guys are putting out there. Get big is a tight place.
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man, shockwave, this all sounds like excuses, the tren wont help fuck all in anything, borracho gave you the best advice right there.
i like you, so i wont critize you harshly or something.
you need to think less about stacks, the hrt hasnt even hit yet full power in you, just get dieting,the rest will come by itslef.
you been clean, this is the best seting to start a diet and the hrt will be just fine.
all this water and such talk applies once youre at 6% bodyfat or so, before that, there wont be any difference lol.
You must have missed this broseph. :D
I appreciate all the info guys. After I've considered all the input and my own situation, I'm probably just going to run with 250mg/wk test until I get into the 12/15% range. I think I'll just invest in some clen and more t3.
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ah cool, t3 dont more than 25mcg day imo.
the less thinking about what gear etc, the more prgress, itll come down to dieting anyway.
enjoy it, youll feel cleansed within weeks ;D
thats the nice thing about running long esters. one and done and you dont have to think about it for a nother 7 days or so
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ah cool, t3 dont more than 25mcg day imo.
the less thinking about what gear etc, the more prgress, itll come down to dieting anyway.
enjoy it, youll feel cleansed within weeks ;D
I know, I just have to fight my own head. I have this all or nothing mentality... When I start something, I want to go from 0 to 1g test/weekly 500mg/tren EOD, 5,000mg Halo/2x daily, etc. ;D
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If you don't want to run tren the add masteron prop. You will see changes daily @ 100mg e3d
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The U bitches, university of Miami hurricanes ( now start talking shit)
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once again... i'll tell you what you want to hear.
Monday and Thursday go with 250-300mg (whatever's 1cc of the test u have is) test e/c, and either 200mg tren or 500mcg (1/2mg) methyltrienolone per day along with bumping your t3 to 50mcg.
don't bump your t3 w/o adding tren (or something else) and bumping the test up to 500.
cut your kcals by 500/day.
when you're hungry, eat chicken.
more you suffer, the better u look.
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once again... i'll tell you what you want to hear.
Monday and Thursday go with 250-300mg (whatever's 1cc of the test u have is) test e/c, and either 200mg tren or 500mcg (1/2mg) methyltrienolone per day along with bumping your t3 to 50mcg.
don't bump your t3 w/o adding tren (or something else) and bumping the test up to 500.
cut your kcals by 500/day.
when you're hungry, eat chicken.
more you suffer, the better u look.
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I said a few posts up that im just going to run the HRT, t3 and clen until I get to a reasonable BF level, before I think about adding in the more exotic compounds. It's what I knew I should do in the 1st place, at least until I get the excess fat off.
Thanks for the input though, good information. Although at 1st I thought you said to cut my calories TO 500, not by 500. Lol.
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I said a few posts up that im just going to run the HRT, t3 and clen until I get to a reasonable BF level, before I think about adding in the more exotic compounds. It's what I knew I should do in the 1st place, at least until I get the excess fat off.
Thanks for the input though, good information. Although at 1st I thought you said to cut my calories TO 500, not by 500. Lol.
that'll work too. ;)
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How the fuck did my college football team post end up here wtf
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I think the real gems to take from this thread are: diet hard and suffer, and be consistent. You'll hit your goals in a few months. I like ESF's comment on "the more you suffer, the better you'll look." 8)
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How the fuck did my college football team post end up here wtf
haha that's awesome ??? i'm gonna start making random posts in threads that make absolutely no sense. that shit makes me LOL.
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I appreciate all the info guys. After I've considered all the input and my own situation, I'm probably just going to run with 250mg/wk test until I get into the 12/15% range. I think I'll just invest in some clen and more t3.
Wait a sec, didn't you say that you were avoiding ECA because it made you feel like shit? But now you're saying you're gonna get some clen? Does not compute. -- Not sure how old you are but I've found that these days I'm way less tolerant of clen sides than when I was younger. Both ECA and clen work for me but clen makes me feel 400% shittier than any amount of ECA.
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Wait a sec, didn't you say that you were avoiding ECA because it made you feel like shit? But now you're saying you're gonna get some clen? Does not compute. -- Not sure how old you are but I've found that these days I'm way less tolerant of clen sides than when I was younger. Both ECA and clen work for me but clen makes me feel 400% shittier than any amount of ECA.
What exactly do you feel when on Clen?
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What exactly do you feel when on Clen?
A constant mild headache and anxiety to the point where it's hard to think clearly. I'm also uncomfortably hot at night so that I can't sleep for shit and, worst of all, cramping in the gym. The cramping is somewhat under control when I take lots of Taurine but it's still always a threat when I train calves. When I was in my 20's and early 30's, I experienced none of that with clen.
ECA, on the other hand, actually makes me feel good in a clear-headed kind of way. It also makes me feel warmer than usual but not to the point where it interferes with my sleep.
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A constant mild headache and anxiety to the point where it's hard to think clearly. I'm also uncomfortably hot at night so that I can't sleep for shit and, worst of all, cramping in the gym. The cramping is somewhat under control when I take lots of Taurine but it's still always a threat when I train calves. When I was in my 20's and early 30's, I experienced none of that with clen.
ECA, on the other hand, actually makes me feel good in a clear-headed kind of way. It also makes me feel warmer than usual but not to the point where it interferes with my sleep.
Same here. ECA can make me a little anxious, but Clen makes me very jittery and feel like shit.
ECA does give a good boost in mood as well.
I haven't used Clen in years and probably never will try it again.
8)
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Wait a sec, didn't you say that you were avoiding ECA because it made you feel like shit? But now you're saying you're gonna get some clen? Does not compute. -- Not sure how old you are but I've found that these days I'm way less tolerant of clen sides than when I was younger. Both ECA and clen work for me but clen makes me feel 400% shittier than any amount of ECA.
Wife is gonna start taking the Clen. ECA I avoid because the effects make me crave Meth like crazy.... I always wind up relapsing on meth after I've used ECA for any length of time.
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yes I did.
it was easy to do and smooth no pip and very very strong.
only used few shots.
because I founded a legit tren company just few weeks later and felt more safe after all im not a chemist so why risk it.
it was a learning experience and I enjoyed it.