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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: ukjeff on August 27, 2013, 02:52:02 PM
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If you are currently seeking to lose weight and your weight is static. Simply cut out 1/3 of your daily food intake.
It doesn't matter what you eat as long as you reduce your portion size. You can lose weight like this without altering your current lifestyle one bit.
After 1 month if you stick to it, you will have lost weight. If not, you didn't stick to it.
If you are gaining weight at the moment cut your food portions in half for one month.
If you have made it to here you owe me £20.
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:D ;D
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If you are currently seeking to lose weight and your weight is static
Simply cut out 1/3 of your daily food intake.
It doesn't matter what you eat as long as you reduce your portion size.
You can lose weight like this without altering your current lifestyle one bit.
After 1 month if you stick to it, you will have lost weight.
If not, you didn't stick to it.
If you are gaining weight at the moment cut your food portions in half for one month.
If you have made it to here you owe me £20.
That's the truth right there. That's the only way weight loss works.
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Its just too easy though.
People would rather choke down dry chicken and starve themselves and fuck up their social lives in the process.
It makes them "real bodybuilders"
You have to "suffer" to get in shape. ::)
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Dont worry, I know you are just pissed because you cant lose weight, just give my diet a try, its free really, I dont want £20
You're 100% right ....very pissed at the fact I can't lose weight. I'd love to try your diet but I need more specifics, please help me!
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Guys,
I want to keep things fair and balanced.
Jeff deserves the same courtesy as everyone else does on this forum. If he wants to start a thread about his dietary approach, I think he should do so without getting trolled incessantly.
I will remove all comments that are not oriented towards his techniques.
"1"
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You're 100% right ....very pissed at the fact I can't lose weight. I'd love to try your diet but I need more specifics, please help me!
its all in the post mate.
Thats all there is too it.
I dont really know what more you need.
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Guys,
I want to keep things fair and balanced.
Jeff deserves the same courtesy as everyone else does on this forum. If he wants to start a thread about his dietary approach, I think he should do so without getting trolled incessantly.
I will remove all comments that are not oriented towards his techniques.
"1"
Thank you
Im here to help.
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Guys,
I want to keep things fair and balanced.
Jeff deserves the same courtesy as everyone else does on this forum. If he wants to start a thread about his dietary approach, I think he should do so without getting trolled incessantly.
I will remove all comments that are not oriented towards his techniques.
"1"
This may actually turn into a productive thread. That should be punishment enough for this jerk....
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If you are currently seeking to lose weight and your weight is static
Simply cut out 1/3 of your daily food intake.
It doesn't matter what you eat as long as you reduce your portion size.
You can lose weight like this without altering your current lifestyle one bit.
After 1 month if you stick to it, you will have lost weight.
If not, you didn't stick to it.
If you are gaining weight at the moment cut your food portions in half for one month.
If you have made it to here you owe me £20.
This obviously will not work for naturals .
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This may actually turn into a productive thread. That should be punishment enough for this jerk....
Do you want any advice or not?
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This obviously will not work for naturals .
Lol, it will work for your grandma.
It will work for anyone at all.
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Do you want any advice or not?
hahahahaha
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How many grams of juice should I inject?
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Lol, it will work for your grandma.
It will work for anyone at all.
My grandma does not use steroids.
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How many grams of juice should I inject?
You dont need any, the diet works for anyone.
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My grandma does not use steroids.
If she did she would be your grandad.
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Do you see anything wrong with the diet I posted and whats your opinion on its weight loss potential?
We are bodybuilders ,we want to lose fat not weight , get it?
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We are bodybuilders ,we want to lose fat not weight , get it?
You will lose fat, thats the point.
Reducing calories below your daily requirement makes you lose fat/weight.
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We are bodybuilders ,we want to lose fat not weight , get it?
Do you even lift?
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I stopped reading
It doesn't matter what you eat
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I stopped reading
Your loss, you can go back to dried out fish and chicken if you like.
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Your loss, you can go back to dried out fish and chicken if you like.
I know what I'm doing .
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I know what I'm doing .
Then you dont need me then do you?
Thanks for your contributions.
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I know what I'm doing .
Post a pic or screw.
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The dried up fish and chicken comment made me gag. I hate dried grilled chicken. :-X If fish is dry then squeeze lime or lemon all over it.
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Then you dont need me then do you?
Thanks for your contributions.
Thanks you just saved me $20 .
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The dried up fish and chicken comment made me gag. I hate dried grilled chicken. :-X If fish is dry then squeeze lime or lemon all over it.
Its just about cutting food portions.
People are just trying to lose a bit of fat and tone up, its not about winning the Olympia
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Post a pic or screw.
100% natural , where is yours?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=379502.0;attach=416366;image)
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100% natural , where is yours?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=379502.0;attach=416366;image)
Seriously?
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Seriously?
Yeah, seriously .
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Yeah, seriously .
Forget it, it doesnt matter.
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Its just about cutting food portions.
People are just trying to lose a bit of fat and tone up, its not about winning the Olympia
Bingo. I would like to look better in a suit and tie, at the beach etc. The percentile difference needed to get laid is much less than these severe diets call for. Just by cutting out deserts and refusing seconds at the dinner table, plus riding a stationary bike 30 minutes every day, I lost 20 lbs over the course of a few months and all of a sudden found myself balls deep in a couple of different pussies. No GH, tren, insuline or dry chicken breasts and broccoli.
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Its just about cutting food portions.
People are just trying to lose a bit of fat and tone up, its not about winning the Olympia
I don't know Jeff. These are bodybuilders and they want to look like they are going to win the Olympia. I think that in theory you are right...it is about taking in less calories than what your body needs to run/survive on. But they don't want to sacrifice muscle in the process. And I think that they have higher expectations and goals than the average person out there trying to lose bodyfat and "tone" up.
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Guys,
I want to keep things fair and balanced.
Jeff deserves the same courtesy as everyone else does on this forum. If he wants to start a thread about his dietary approach, I think he should do so without getting trolled incessantly.
I will remove all comments that are not oriented towards his techniques.
"1"
Agreed
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Bingo. I would like to look better in a suit and tie, at the beach etc. The percentile difference needed to get laid is much less than these severe diets call for. Just by cutting out deserts and refusing seconds at the dinner table, plus riding a stationary bike 30 minutes every day, I lost 20 lbs over the course of a few months and all of a sudden found myself balls deep in a couple of different pussies. No GH, tren, insuline or dry chicken breasts and broccoli.
thank you
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I don't know Jeff. These are bodybuilders and they want to look like they are going to win the Olympia. I think that in theory you are right...it is about taking in less calories than what your body needs to run/survive on. But they don't want to sacrifice muscle in the process. And I think that they have higher expectations and goals than the average person out there trying to lose bodyfat and "tone" up.
The guys/gals here should be eating healthy already, if they are not then they shouldn't really be here.
What Im saying is if you eat three chicken breasts with a meal, have two instead.
If you go out for burger and fries, dont have the fries.
Its about carrying on with your life as normal without radical diets that not only are not needed you have a chance of fucking up your home life in the process.
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hm a 3rd less cals.so if im eating 5k cals daily, and cut that to 3300,ill lose weight? ???
If you are maintaining your weight eating 5000 cals then eating 3300 cals will make you lose weight.
Thats because 5000 cals is your personal maintenance calorific amount.
did you read the op?
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If you are currently seeking to lose weight and your weight is static
Simply cut out 1/3 of your daily food intake.
It doesn't matter what you eat as long as you reduce your portion size.
You can lose weight like this without altering your current lifestyle one bit.
After 1 month if you stick to it, you will have lost weight.
If not, you didn't stick to it.
If you are gaining weight at the moment cut your food portions in half for one month.
If you have made it to here you owe me £20.
Groundbreaking info right here. So what your saying is, all I need to do to lose weight is eat less ???
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Groundbreaking info right here. So what your saying is, all I need to do to lose weight is eat less ???
Bingo
And its cost you nothing to find out.
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Bingo
And its cost you nothing to find out.
Thanks for posting this man. I thought the only way to lose weight was to up the dose.
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Thanks for posting this man. I thought the only way to lose weight was to up the dose.
You live and learn.
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The guys/gals here should be eating healthy already, if they are not then they shouldn't really be here.
What Im saying is if you eat three chicken breasts with a meal, have two instead.
If you go out for burger and fries, dont have the fries.
Its about carrying on with your life as normal without radical diets that not only are not needed you have a chance of fucking up your home life in the process.
says who?
this is a forum open to everyone, not just those with 'experience'. perhaps it hasnt crossed your mind that a vast majority of people who come thru might do so thru a google search looking for advise on dieting?
secondly, what you are doing, and it is not lost on myself or others is a passive aggressive attack on mine and gals diet.
you make purposefully trolling statements like the second emboldened sentence in an effort to discredit and mock a system and method of eating that you have never tried, so really, you have no clue what it does.
and all the while you do it right under the nose of two mods.
well done sir.
bottom line is, want to look like ukjeff, do what ukjeff does. want to look like gal or me, do what we do. ;) this is not trolling or confrontational btw but a meer statement of fact, unlike a majority of anything uk posts. lol
cheers.
:)
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says who?
this is a forum open to everyone, not just those with 'experience'. perhaps it hasnt crossed your mind that a vast majority of people who come thru might do so thru a google search looking for advise on dieting?
what you are doing, and it is not lost on myself or others is a passive aggressive attack on mine and gals diet.
you make purposefully trolling statements like the second emboldened sentence in an effort to discredit and mock a system and method of eating that you have never tried, so really, you have no clue what it does.
and all the while you do it right under the nose of two mods.
well done sir.
Have you got anything positive to add or do you want to carry on with these endless personal attacks.
Im done with you now, you can relax, get back your status as it were, i wont troll you again.
Its an alternative to your diet, thats all.
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Best thing is go to 10,000 calories a day and 70 sets a body part 7 days a week.
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Have you got anything positive to add or do you want to carry on with these endless personal attacks.
Im done with you now, you can relax, get back your status as it were, i wont troll you again.
Its an alternative to your diet, thats all.
well, if i get the same leverage you have on this board i should be good for at least a good 3 months of thread ruining, trolling and other such things.
however, im not here for that, unlike you are as you have stated blankly in the past.
no, i think the last line i added to my last post pretty much compresses anything i have to say further in regards to your humanitarian effort here.
:)
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ok, but you saying its all the same for natural and steroid user?
what about the 2gramms protein per kilo bodyweight rule?
is this strictly about losing weight or losing fat while keeping the muscle?
i know if one eats only 1500cals of sugary carbs, theyll lose weight, but the muscle will suffer.
as for social life, i adapte and get along nicely with my kind of diet, the girl doesnt complain, she digs that look i told her whats required and shes ok with it.its more sociable than th 5-6 meals daily, also i dont have to embaras myself bringing chicken and brokoli to workplace :D
Read the op again
Its about maintaining your current diet but eating less.
Its not about eating loads of sugar or not eating enough protein.
Anyone on this forum should be eating well, and they probably eat a bit too much hence they dont lose weight.
Now, if they simply ate a third less they would lose weight, they obviously need to maintain sensible quantities of protein carbs and fats.
Its the same as your diet but its one many more people will be able to stick to.
People with young families dont want to be going without food for days, they like taking the kids to the park for ice cream.
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bottom line is, want to look like ukjeff, do what ukjeff does. want to look like gal or me, do what we do. this is not trolling or confrontational btw but a meer statement of fact, unlike a majority of anything uk posts. lol
I will juyst address this bearing in mind you mentioned it twice
If you want to live like Gal and No one and be in two weeks better condition that UKjeff with all the hassle and stress their diet brings then go with their diet.
I will stick with my nice easy one, and be no more than two weeks difference in condition.
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Its just too easy though.
People would rather choke down dry chicken and starve themselves and fuck up their social lives in the process.
It makes them "real bodybuilders"
You have to "suffer" to get in shape. ::)
I just don't agree with the whole calorie is a calorie thing. If you eat 2000 cals per day of mcdonalds for a month and then 2000 cals per day of "clean" food like chicken and oats for a month you will look very different at the end of those 2 diets.
The reason is because of fiber and sodium that people seem to forget in this argument. Your getting far more sodium on the mcdonalds diet and far less fiber. you will look far more bloated and most likely have a bigger stomach all together from the lack of fiber preventing proper waste evacuation.
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I just don't agree with the whole calorie is a calorie thing. If you eat 2000 cals per day of mcdonalds for a month and then 2000 cals per day of "clean" food like chicken and oats for a month you will look very different at the end of those 2 diets.
The reason is because of fiber and sodium that people seem to forget in this argument. Your getting far more sodium on the mcdonalds diet and far less fiber. you will look far more bloated and most likely have a bigger stomach all together from the lack of fiber preventing proper waste evacuation.
Thats a good point, however it still doesnt matter as far as my diet goes.
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Im off to bed now, i welcome your questions and contributions, I will address them all tomorrow.
;D
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but if the kid wants icecream, they can have,uhm, breathe air,no?
if the kd wants to buy a crocodile as house pet,or cartwheel from the balcony, the elders mustnt do the same ;D
hold on, 2 weeks better condition, year round, and as of now,relatively to yours, must set that straight ;D
Great post. Couldn't understand a word of it, but great post. ::)
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Im off to bed now, i welcome your questions and contributions, I will address them all tomorrow.
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I know your joking a bit to piss off all the guys your beefing with but the fact is, you ARE qualified to have a thread like this and give out advice. the fact is, you look better then 99.9% of the population. we all talk shit here but there seems to be a lack of keeping it real. people simply talking shit just because they dont get along with a person. if props are due, they should be given regardless of if you get along with the person or not.
in short, lets keep it fucking real around here.
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if the kd wants to buy a crocodile as house pet,or cartwheel from the balcony, the elders mustnt do the same ;D
:D
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If you have a family to cook for, then just cook two different meals. If you are doing the green vegs and steamed fish/grilled chicken. You get into a routine and it becomes the norm. Of course there are times when your family eats what you eat, but if you are going really really strict then you can't feed them what you eat everynight.
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If you are currently seeking to lose weight and your weight is static
Simply cut out 1/3 of your daily food intake.
It doesn't matter what you eat as long as you reduce your portion size.
You can lose weight like this without altering your current lifestyle one bit.
After 1 month if you stick to it, you will have lost weight.
If not, you didn't stick to it.
If you are gaining weight at the moment cut your food portions in half for one month.
If you have made it to here you owe me £20.
lolz
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Best thing is go to 10,000 calories a day and 70 sets a body part 7 days a week.
with light weights right?
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well,here is the problem, since its not particularly mentioned, some will eat like normal avergae joe, just less,but random macros, and thus, fail.
not sure if jeff says whatever you want to eat, but ppl gonna interpret that severly wrong.when a bbuilder says what you want ,he doesnt really mean the same thing like the fatso cow who has her breakfast at starbucks, dipping oreaos into 900calories "coffee" sugar bomb.
hes not very clear on anything really, i know hes trolling and knows better, but yeah freedom to the people, everyone try what sounds good to them.
;D
Jeff actually stated that since we are all here and into the lifestyle of training/bodybuilding/exercising we would all be eating healthy and fairly well anyway. So basically if you want to reduce bodyfat, then simply eat less. That's pretty basic really. Just like if you want to gain, you eat more.
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My question is whether the OP thinks bodybuilders need more protein than the average person who may be fit and eating healthy but may not be looking to maximize muscle mass and minimize bodyfat.
That's exactly right.
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booty, many mnay socalled bodybuilders are entirely deluded when it comes to views how much and what is healthy.
I agree and many are far from eating healthy. I cringe when I see bodybuilders that eat absolutely no veges or salads. I think it's disgusting. Massive turn off...thinking about it.
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I agree and many are far from eating healthy. I cringe when I see bodybuilders that eat absolutely no veges or salads. I think it's disgusting. Massive turn off...thinking about it.
Constipation.
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Constipation.
It's more than that. To me it just say that they are a very unhealthy individual if they avoid veges and salads like the plague. I see a childhood where they lived on junk and eating healthy wasn't instilled in them.
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It's more than that. To me it just say that they are a very unhealthy individual if they avoid veges and salads like the plague. I see a childhood where they lived on junk and eating healthy wasn't instilled in them.
A very good point.
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we all talk shit here, but there seems to be a lack of keeping it real.
given regardless of if you get along with the person or not.
in short, lets keep it fucking real around here.
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bro its not even worth correcting, debating, or showing him his flaws. let people try it. to each their own. we have nothing to prove it defend anymore bro. we built the ultimate system. if people want it- great. if not-great.
as an aside to the effectiveness of this diet 'advise' here- how many people do you see walking around at 6% and lower year round? none. how many diet like ukjeff? pretty much everyone.
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ok very serious now, how does one determine their maintenance calorie needs?
rough calculation is unaceptable imo.
so, either always writing down the food or always eating the same for a week and watch the weight?
will this rather unsocial effort be made by the wife-gf? ;D
and what about water fluctuation?weight doesnt say eevrything.every steroid user will know this, random 5lbs up or down can happen on same day.
wouldnt it be better to just only eat when hungry?
or calculate the meals to such portions so one is always hungry for a scheduled meal time?quite the effort if you ask me.
ok, to be fair , i live single lifetyle, have a girl,but she dont interferes with my foods, all she wants is go to restarant once weekly or so, which is fine.
but id have a problem if i lived with one who wants crossant and butter and chockolate stick every both weekend days.
Your portion size in meals is small compared to the USA. And Zurich has hardly any junk food take out places. You could eat out everyday there and still be lean. Awesome food in Zurich.
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What is the role of protein, if any, in this diet?
Whats the role of protein in your diet currently?
Whats the role of Fats and carbs, I have no idea, only you know that.
If its 50 protein, 30 carbs 20 fats then it still will be on my diet.
Common sense will tell you to reduce fats first if you want to significantly reduce calorie intake but thats up to you.
Im not telling you what to do with regards what to cut, its just that you cut.
If you have weighed 200lb for at least a month without moving then whatever you are eating that month is maintaining your weight, if you reduce the amount of food the next month by a third you will reduce your fat deposits.
Im struggling to make it any more simple.
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but if the kid wants icecream, they can have,uhm, breathe air,no?
if the kd wants to buy a crocodile as house pet,or cartwheel from the balcony, the elders mustnt do the same ;D
hold on, 2 weeks better condition, year round, and as of now,relatively to yours, must set that straight ;D
I am losing fat all the time you are stationary Gal.
You are pretty much as low as you're going to get.
Please don't judge me on photos you saw two weeks ago.
I don't want or need to get down to ultra low body fat levels, why should I?
If I was competing in a show I would just up the anti and get it all off.
I know how to do it, I have done it in the past with ease.
I may not satisfy "no ones" standards, but so what, if he chooses to live a spartan lifestyle to maintain a competition physique to show off in the gym then thats fine.
My life isnt so wrapped up in training that it matters all that much, I dont go to the gym to be admired by teenage boys.
I go to the gym regularly 4/5 days a week for around 30/40 minutes a session, I train with moderate to light weights and eat sensibly.
Im able to diet the way I do because my home life dictates it.
I can diet harder Monday to Thursday because my partner works away, when she's home I eat differently, I eat what she eats.
Its all about balance.
If you want to try Gals diet then try it, it will work faster than mine because you are eating less calories, thats all.
Apart from that you will still lose weight but at a slower pace and one that will be better for your state of mind.
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well,here is the problem, since its not particularly mentioned, some will eat like normal avergae joe, just less,but random macros, and thus, fail.
not sure if jeff says whatever you want to eat, but ppl gonna interpret that severly wrong.when a bbuilder says what you want ,he doesnt really mean the same thing like the fatso cow who has her breakfast at starbucks, dipping oreaos into 900calories "coffee" sugar bomb.
hes not very clear on anything really, i know hes trolling and knows better, but yeah freedom to the people, everyone try what sounds good to them.
;D
If the woman is having one everyday and maintaining her body weight then leaving a third of it everyday will allow her to lose weight.
Why do you keep missing this important point?
You need to have your weight static before you know what your maintenance calories are.
Trolling, no Im being serious.
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That's not really helpful because eating "healthy" means different things to different people.
My question is whether the OP thinks bodybuilders need more protein than the average person who may be fit and eating healthy but may not be looking to maximize muscle mass and minimize bodyfat.
More protein for muscle repair yes, but how much is enough?
Some people manage to build muscle on 100gms of protein.
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My current diet.
0600 Meal 1 2 eggs with extra egg white liquid cup of coffee
I drink a litre of BCAA in water at around 0730
0930 4 breakfast biscuits and a coffee
1300 200gms chicken fillet
1530 chicken tikka on a crusty bread role (rip the majority of the bread out thanks Gal ;))
17.30 Rib eye streak and sauce with some veg
2030 shake 47gms protein 50gms oats (the oats are milled to a fine powder in a food processor)
1030 BCAA in a litre of water.
I do this Monday to Friday with a meal out on Thursdays.
Weekend I eat whatever I like.
Oh and I have lost 25lb in less than 7 weeks following this diet. ;)
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guys
i spoke to jeff about his negative attitude and how
his behaviour was unacceptable if he wanted to stay on the forum
its nice to see him giving out positive advice
well done jeff i know it was difficult for you
but we all appreciate the effort
i am interested on your thoughts re nutrient timing
its my take that eating late at night can have a negative effect when trying to lose weight
god speed and again well done for turning the corner
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guys
i spoke to jeff about his negative attitude and how
his behaviour was unacceptable if he wanted to stay on the forum
its nice to see him giving out positive advice
well done jeff i know it was difficult for you
but we all appreciate the effort
i am interested on your thoughts re nutrient timing
its my take that eating late at night can have a negative effect when trying to lose weight
god speed and again well done for turning the corner
Lol at counsellor bigmc.
All Im doing is showing that I can also help,and that my trollling is simply that, I told you I was nothing like I am on here in real life. ;)
As for eating at night, Im not really sure if it has any negative effects at all.
Some people have trouble sleeping on an empty stomach, I have on occasion got up and ate something if my bellys rumbling when I get in bed.
Precontest when I used to diet I always had a bowl of oats and a banana just before bed.
Didnt do me any harm.
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Lol at counsellor bigmc.
All Im doing is showing that I can also help,and that my trollling is simply that, I told you I was nothing like I am on here in real life. ;)
As for eating at night, Im not really sure if it has any negative effects at all.
Some people have trouble sleeping on an empty stomach, I have on occasion got up and ate something if my bellys rumbling when I get in bed.
Precontest when I used to diet I always had a bowl of oats and a banana just before bed.
Didnt do me any harm.
great post jeff
thank you
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I know your joking a bit to piss off all the guys your beefing with but the fact is, you ARE qualified to have a thread like this and give out advice. the fact is, you look better then 99.9% of the population. we all talk shit here but there seems to be a lack of keeping it real. people simply talking shit just because they dont get along with a person. if props are due, they should be given regardless of if you get along with the person or not.
in short, lets keep it fucking real around here.
Couldn't agree more. I gave Jeff props way back...lately been slighting him, because.... well, he's been acting like a flaccid penis.
Dude looked great in competition, and his back is no joke.
But fuck him...hahaha. ;D
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I like jeffs approach.
If i want to lose a bit fat i cut out breakfast and do cardio instead.
Never been supper ripped nor desire too and i know this approach wont achieve that but its ideal for leaning out with little effort.
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I like jeffs approach.
If i want to lose a bit fat i cut out breakfast and do cardio instead.
Never been supper ripped nor desire too and i know this approach wont achieve that but its ideal for leaning out with little effort.
I'm a hybrid. I utilize both approaches, if I'm not doing anything...nothing coming up on the social calendar, I will eat clean and somewhat normal, I always eat protein rich meals, 60/30/10. Probably why at 49 I'm still mid 230's.
But if I went to look SICK because I know there is a big party or something, and I will need to dominate the smaller, weaker guests... I drop the hammer gal/none/OTH style and suck all the water and bloat out.
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I'm a hybrid. I utilize both approaches, if I'm not doing anything...nothing coming up on the social calendar, I will eat clean and somewhat normal, I always eat protein rich meals, 60/30/10. Probably why at 49 I'm still mid 230's.
But if I went to look SICK because I know there is a big party or something, and I will need to dominate the smaller, weaker guests... I drop the hammer gal/none/OTH style and suck all the water and bloat out.
have you had to modify your diet as you get older
eat less etc
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I'm a hybrid. I utilize both approaches, if I'm not doing anything...nothing coming up on the social calendar, I will eat clean and somewhat normal, I always eat protein rich meals, 60/30/10. Probably why at 49 I'm still mid 230's.
But if I went to look SICK because I know there is a big party or something, and I will need to dominate the smaller, weaker guests... I drop the hammer gal/none/OTH style and suck all the water and bloat out.
Thats going in the Getbig 2013 quotes for sure. ;D
If I decide to compete again or get shredded then I would alter the diet Im currently on
I would just drop down to chicken, fish, veg and rice and just drink water.
To get the last bit of fat and water off does take that extra effort but I can easily get to 6% using the diet I am on now.
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have you had to modify your diet as you get older
eat less etc
Oh Yeah. Fact of life (for me anyway)....It's Over as far as pigging out..... subs, loaded meat pizza, etc, etc. The metabolism isn't what it used to be. the shit just stays with me for a week. Even two years ago it was a totally different story. Getting old.....ugh.
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I have never been a big eater.
I cant eat a three course meal in a restraunt, a real lightweight, if I go for a carvery I only have a small one.
I see people having soup and bread roles, a huge carvery piled up on a massive plate and the massive cakes. :-X
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I'm a hybrid. I utilize both approaches, if I'm not doing anything...nothing coming up on the social calendar, I will eat clean and somewhat normal, I always eat protein rich meals, 60/30/10. Probably why at 49 I'm still mid 230's.
But if I went to look SICK because I know there is a big party or something, and I will need to dominate the smaller, weaker guests... I drop the hammer gal/none/OTH style and suck all the water and bloat out.
Wow! That's really impressive.
BTW: How much money have you earned year to date?
I didn't think so.
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Wow! That's really impressive.
BTW: How much money have you earned year to date?
I didn't think so.
Enough to fuck your mother three times a week :)
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Enough to fuck your mother three times a week :)
that's three dollar accounted for
what did you do with the rest
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So u don't think there's a minimum protein requirement, e.g., one gram per pound of bodyweight, for those seeking to maximum muscle mass and minimize fat?
Also, do u think the emphasis that others place on on consuming virtually all protein, while on their calorie restricted diets, e.g., 1000 calories or less, is misplaced; and one could eat bread or pasta, rather than chicken breasts and other lean protein, and obtain the same result?
I believe once you go into a calorific deficit you wont be gaining much muscle size anyway, so high levels of protein are not all that important.
I have never really had much faith in the 1grm per pound/per kilo ratios, they are all just broscience anyway.
Some people need high protein to grow and some can grow on smaller amounts.
Im not going to criticise gal and no ones approach because it does work, its just not for me and it's probably not for others, I simply cant go zero carbs without going hypo.
My diet is an alternative, thats all.
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I believe once you go into a calorific deficit you wont be gaining much muscle size anyway, so high levels of protein are not all that important.
I have never really had much faith in the 1grm per pound/per kilo ratios, they are all just broscience anyway.
Some people need high protein to grow and some can grow on smaller amounts.
Im not going to criticise gal and no ones approach because it does work, its just not for me and it's probably not for others, I simply cant go zero carbs without going hypo.
My diet is an alternative, thats all.
I agree with this protein in overrated. Most of the hype is by protein companies to get your money you can get what you need from eating the right foods.
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I believe once you go into a calorific deficit you wont be gaining much muscle size anyway, so high levels of protein are not all that important.
I have never really had much faith in the 1grm per pound/per kilo ratios, they are all just broscience anyway.
Some people need high protein to grow and some can grow on smaller amounts.
Im not going to criticise gal and no ones approach because it does work, its just not for me and it's probably not for others, I simply cant go zero carbs without going hypo.
My diet is an alternative, thats all.
unless you are on gear
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unless you are on gear
Yep, the body is better able to absorb and use the protein when drugs are in the mix.
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I believe once you go into a calorific deficit you wont be gaining much muscle size anyway, so high levels of protein are not all that important.
I have never really had much faith in the 1grm per pound/per kilo ratios, they are all just broscience anyway.
Some people need high protein to grow and some can grow on smaller amounts.
Im not going to criticise gal and no ones approach because it does work, its just not for me and it's probably not for others, I simply cant go zero carbs without going hypo.
My diet is an alternative, thats all.
that is because your diet is not optimal.
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Enough to fuck your mother three times a week :)
Hey that's great. An 8th grade mentality to go along with your lack of brain cells.
You still haven't answered the question: what are your earnings year to date?
Too painful to think about?
Can you say "loser"?
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that's three dollar accounted for
what did you do with the rest
LOL :D
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What about it is not optimal? Is it the amount of calories? The type of calories? The timing? Something else.
what isnt optimal is the fact he cannot gain lean tissue while being on anabolics even though he's 'dieting'
in a severe cal deficit one can grow lean tissue if their diets are optimal.
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what isnt optimal is the fact he cannot gain lean tissue while being on anabolics even though he's 'dieting'
in a severe cal deficit one can grow lean tissue if their diets are optimal.
Can you define optimal.
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Do u have any evidence to support this in the form of peer-reviewed studies or otherwise? Or is this just more of the "broscience" that u decry above?
http://www.livescience.com/3349-steroids-work.html
Once ingested, an AAS travels through the blood stream to the muscle tissue. It is drawn into the muscle cell's receiving dock, called an androgen receptor. Once delivered to the muscle cell, the steroid can interact with the cell's DNA and stimulate the protein synthesis process that promotes cell growth.
Basic i know, but there are more scientific papers out there if you choose to look,
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meal5, 300cals,
6oz ribeye sauce and veg around 700 cals
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Can you define optimal.
yes.
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hm a 3rd less cals.so if im eating 5k cals daily, and cut that to 3300,ill lose weight? ???
i lost over 50 lbs doing this, hth
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I just don't agree with the whole calorie is a calorie thing. If you eat 2000 cals per day of mcdonalds for a month and then 2000 cals per day of "clean" food like chicken and oats for a month you will look very different at the end of those 2 diets.
do it and post pics or stfu
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If you are currently seeking to lose weight and your weight is static
Simply cut out 1/3 of your daily food intake.
It doesn't matter what you eat as long as you reduce your portion size.
You can lose weight like this without altering your current lifestyle one bit.
After 1 month if you stick to it, you will have lost weight.
If not, you didn't stick to it.
If you are gaining weight at the moment cut your food portions in half for one month.
If you have made it to here you owe me £20.
And the advice is worth £20, I am sure.
Eat less and you will weigh less, it really is just that simple. One thing that helps is to eat less, but eat more often. If you don't want to fuck your metabolism, you need to keep feeding and fooling your body into believing it is not going to starve.
As long as a diet is realistic and not deprivation, most people should be able to stick with it.
Lately, as soon as I start feeling a little full, I stop eating that meal. Makes for some leftovers for the dogs, but I feel better. Incidentally, I am not trying to lose weight, just stay between 200 and 210, which I have done for the past couple of years.
Ate out tonight at P.F. Changs. Ordered scallops with brown rice and peanuts. All in all pretty healthy stuff. There are some scallops in the icebox for lunch tomorrow. I did eat a lot of the crispy green beans.
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good thread jeff
one question, and this is something i've always wondered when i read stuff like this, when you say "200g chicken", what EXACTLY do you mean? just 200g plain chicken breast? any seasoning? sauteed, baked, or what?
just eating a slab of, say, sauteed chicken completely by itself is the one "bodybuilder food" thing i have never even tried. it's about the most unappetizing thing i can think of...
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And the advice is worth £20, I am sure.
Eat less and you will weigh less, it really is just that simple. One thing that helps is to eat less, but eat more often. If you don't want to fuck your metabolism, you need to keep feeding and fooling your body into believing it is not going to starve.
As long as a diet is realistic and not deprivation, most people should be able to stick with it.
Lately, as soon as I start feeling a little full, I stop eating that meal. Makes for some leftovers for the dogs, but I feel better. Incidentally, I am not trying to lose weight, just stay between 200 and 210, which I have done for the past couple of years.
Ate out tonight at P.F. Changs. Ordered scallops with brown rice and peanuts. All in all pretty healthy stuff. There are some scallops in the icebox for lunch tomorrow. I did eat a lot of the crispy green beans.
True all you got to do is put the fork down. If going into BB contest just drop water and carbs a few days it is not rocket science.
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True all you got to do is put the fork down. If going into BB contest just drop water and carbs a few days it is not rocket science.
do you believe that genetics play a role in one's ability to get ripped, or is it all just about willpower?
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do you believe that genetics play a role in one's ability to get ripped, or is it all just about willpower?
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yes.
Is it going to cost me $20 to find out what you mean by optimal?
;D
The dictionary definition of "optimal" is "best most favourable"
Do you consider 2lb of chicken and a couple of spoons of peanut butter equalling 1000 cals optimal for gaining muscle whilst losing fat?
Why wouldnt a mixture of foods containing vitamins minerals, mixed protein sources and carbohydrates be any less "optimal"?
one question, and this is something i've always wondered when i read stuff like this, when you say "200g chicken", what EXACTLY do you mean? just 200g plain chicken breast? any seasoning? sauteed, baked, or what?
When Im at work I just have it plain, I cook it on a "Foreman grill" its done in 4 or 5 minutes and is nice and juicy,
At home I would have some sweet chilli dip or maybe barbacue sauce with it.
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do you believe that genetics play a role in one's ability to get ripped, or is it all just about willpower?
Genes rule. If a Endomorph do you think it would be more difficult to get ripped than a Ectomorph anser is yes. Any one can take all the roids they want and how many Mr O's have there been, even Casey a Mesomorph never one the O.
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Is it going to cost me $20 to find out what you mean by optimal?
;D
The dictionary definition of "optimal" is "best most favourable"
Do you consider 2lb of chicken and a couple of spoons of peanut butter equalling 1000 cals optimal for gaining muscle whilst losing fat?
Why wouldnt a mixture of foods containing vitamins minerals, mixed protein sources and carbohydrates be any less "optimal"?When Im at work I just have it plain, I cook it on a "Foreman grill" its done in 4 or 5 minutes and is nice and juicy,
At home I would have some sweet chilli dip or maybe barbacue sauce with it.
you only have to look at no one
he is a walking advert for his diet gal too
be interesting if you were able to look at their diet without the pre conception you appear to have
maybe even try it for a few weeks see how it compares to yours
that would bring some real weight to the arguments on either side
your diet is easier in terms of a lifestyle choice and therefore quite appealing
theirs is hardcore but the results certainkly appear to back up their claims
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maybe even try it for a few weeks see how it compares to yours
I have tried the no carb approach, doesnt work for me, I get hypo.
I have a blood glucose monitor and only last week I got in bed and started sweating and drifting (anyone who has hypos will know what I mean) I got up and tested my blood and it was 1.2.
That was just on low carbs for me.
Someone who I consider very knowledge told me I was very insulin sensitve (I dont really know what it means by the way)
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Genes rule. If a Endomorph do you think it would be more difficult to get ripped than a Ectomorph anser is yes. Any one can take all the roids they want and how many Mr O's have there been, even Casey a Mesomorph never one the O.
but he was the youngest mr. america
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I have tried the no carb approach, doesnt work for me, I get hypo.
I have a blood glucose monitor and only last week I got in bed and started sweating and drifting (anyone who has hypos will know what I mean) I got up and tested my blood and it was 1.2.
That was just on low carbs for me.
Someone who I consider very knowledge told me I was very insulin sensitve (I dont really know what it means by the way)
I totally agree with this you got to keep some carbs in until the last few days before a BB contest as you know. How long after eating was the 1.2?
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I totally agree with this you got to keep some carbs in until the last few days before a BB contest as you know. How long after eating was the 1.2?
A couple of hours, I had a shake with 50gms oats in it.
The guy I mentioned earlier said that as I was on low carbs and put the small amount of carbs in my body produced an insulin kick which overcompensated for the amount of carbs hence the hypo.
AgainI am not an expert , but it makes sense to me.
I got up and had some crunchy nut cornflakes and some biscuits and 20 mins later I tested it again and it read 4.5.
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A couple of hours, I had a shake with 50gms oats in it.
The guy I mentioned earlier said that as I was on low carbs and put the small amount of carbs in my body produced an insulin kick which overcompensated for the amount of carbs hence the hypo.
AgainI am not an expert , but it makes sense to me.
I got up and had some crunchy nut cornflakes and some biscuits and 20 mins later I tested it again and it read 4.5.
There you go my dad had Diabetes maybe get a check on it just being a friend.
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Normally my blood glucose is 4.5-4.9 it bang in the middle of normal.
If I had diabetes then it would be high most of time as I wouldnt be producing insulin.
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Normally my blood glucose is 4.5-4.9 it bang in the middle of normal.
If I had diabetes then it would be high most of time as I wouldnt be producing insulin.
That's good so why do you have the monitor sounds as if you might be worried about.
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I bought it to check my blood as it happens on occasion when Im dieting, I have had the occasional one when eating normally.
It was explained to me that after a hard workout when glycogen stores are depleted and you have say a shake with some simple carbs, because of my sensitivity my body produces too much insulin for the amount of carbs hence the hypo, if i bang in some more simple carbs then it uses up the extra insulin and as such normalises.
He also told me Im less likely to become diabetic as my insulin production is good, if a little too good.
Again, Im no expert in this but it makes sense as I was told.
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Is it going to cost me $20 to find out what you mean by optimal?
;D
The dictionary definition of "optimal" is "best most favourable"
Do you consider 2lb of chicken and a couple of spoons of peanut butter equalling 1000 cals optimal for gaining muscle whilst losing fat?
optimal: most favourable or satisfactory.
what would make something most favourable or satisfactory to someone dieting? i thibk if we were to poll the entire board the overwhelming response would be 'results'- results will determine what is most favourable or satisfsctory by those wanting to lose weight.
how is your 'diet' not producing the most favourable results'?
bbers strive for two things when dieting. getting as lean as possible as efficiently as possible, and the holy grail being- the creation of lean tissue while in a calorie deficit.
by your own admittance your diet is not optimal as you say you don't create lean tissue on it, despite being on anabolics. the second reason your diet is not optimal is that fat loss is not as quick as some other systems.
'eating' or the ability 'to eat food' in a diet does not make it optimal. the foods and amounts do not make it optimal.
'optimal' in this vein then is strictly results based. your 'diet' is simply not optimal given the above points.
I hope his clears up some of the confusion for you.
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optimal: most favourable or satisfactory.
what would make something most favourable or satisfactory to someone dieting? i thibk if we were to poll the entire board the overwhelming response would be 'results'- results will determine what is most favourable or satisfsctory by those wanting to lose weight.
how is your 'diet' not producing the most favourable results'?
bbers strive for two things when dieting. getting as lean as possible as efficiently as possible, and the holy grail being- the creation of lean tissue while in a calorie deficit.
by your own admittance your diet is not optimal as you say you don't create lean tissue on it, despite being on anabolics. the second reason your diet is not optimal is that fat loss is not as quick as some other systems.
'eating' or the ability 'to eat food' in a diet does not make it optimal. the foods and amounts do not make it optimal.
'optimal' in this vein then is strictly results based. your 'diet' is simply not optimal given the above points.
I hope his clears up some of the confusion for you.
Im not confused, I just wanted your views thats all.
Thanks for taking the time to respond.
Could it be the lean tissue you are gaining is simply glycogen stores in the muscle fluctuating and the muscles having a fuller look and you weighing heavier?
How much muscle have you gained whilst in your long term restricted calorie diet, say in the last 12 months?
From what I gather from your previous posts you are eating around a 1000 cals then binge eating to replenish (I don't know how many cals you have on these days then fast for a day?) then back on a 1000?
So couldn't the muscle gains (if they exist) be due to the nourishment that you bang in on your binge days?
by your own admittance your diet is not optimal as you say you don't create lean tissue on it, despite being on anabolics. the second reason your diet is not optimal is that fat loss is not as quick as some other systems.
I suspect that you are not actually creating any new tissue either.
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does anyone remember the anabolic burst diet
which was basicall starve for two weeks then eat like a pig for two
feast and famine so to speak
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hahaha
dj has his moments, without even knowing when hes hillarious ;D
truth be told, i was just trying to stir some shit up and mr. toughguy seapiss fell for it lol
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The neutered Jeff/Mike is just not as much fun as he used to be.
I guess he needed this board more than it needed him.
word is its killing him
its the first board where he has bent over and taken it in the ass to stay
normally he gets banned
its our duty to support him in this difficult transitional period
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The neutered Jeff/Mike is just not as much fun as he used to be.
I guess he needed this board more than it needed him.
Lol...when Im being productive and offering advice Im not as much fun.
I cant win. ;D
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word is its killing him
its the first board where he has bent over and taken it in the ass to stay
normally he gets banned
its our duty to support him in this difficult transitional period
???
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Lol...when Im being productive and offering advice Im not as much fun.
I cant win. ;D
how about this ground breaking idea
be positive in the informative productive threads
and be a cu nt in the silly ones
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Im not confused, I just wanted your views thats all.
Thanks for taking the time to respond.
Could it be the lean tissue you are gaining is simply glycogen stores in the muscle fluctuating and the muscles having a fuller look and you weighing heavier?
How much muscle have you gained whilst in your long term restricted calorie diet, say in the last 12 months?
From what I gather from your previous posts you are eating around a 1000 cals then binge eating to replenish (I don't know how many cals you have on these days then fast for a day?) then back on a 1000?
So couldn't the muscle gains (if they exist) be due to the nourishment that you bang in on your binge days?I suspect that you are not actually creating any new tissue either.
after 20 years of training, dieting, and using anabolics I have a very real grasp in the differece between water gain, glycogen, and lean tissue accumulation. the fact I 'look' the way I do should tell you I know my body very very well. you don't get to this level of development just by consuming anabolics and random calories and hoping it all works out.
so, that being said, you 'suspecting' that I'm not gaining lean tissue in a severe deficit does not make it fact.
what does make it fact is that I say that I am. it's really quite that simple.
why am i bothering to debate you in all this, despite knowing your only going to continue to blindly follow your own path? because others are experiencing the very things I am talking about in my posts here. i am not an anomoly. if I can save someone the pain of failure from following a less than optimal system, and make then pause for a moment and *think* then I've planted a seed that will hopefully bear then fruit in the years to come as they chase and attain their own aspirations and goals.
cheers.
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do you believe that genetics play a role in one's ability to get ripped, or is it all just about willpower?
Genetics definitely plays a role. While it might be possible for anyone to get ripped, it is easier for some than others, just as it is easier for some people to gain size and muscle than others. It isn't all willpower.
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Here is another helpful tip (especially for naturals). Dont be afraid to front load calories if you work a manual labor job. It would be smart to eat the bulk of your daily intake while you are working(burning calories). Eat just enough to stave off hunger after you are done working.
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Here is another helpful tip (especially for naturals). Dont be afraid to front load calories if you work a manual labor job. It would be smart to eat the bulk of your daily intake while you are working(burning calories). Eat just enough to stave off hunger after you are done working.
lmao
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lmao
It's true. Helped me lose 60+ pounds. You would be amazed at the amount of calories a person can burn at a physical job. It would only make sense to eat the majority of your daily caloric intake during these hours. I would say easily 2/3 of daily calories should be consumed then.
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It's true. Helped me lose 60+ pounds. You would be amazed at the amount of calories a person can burn at a physical job. It would only make sense to eat the majority of your daily caloric intake during these hours. I would say easily 2/3 of daily calories should be consumed then.
hahaha jesus christ shizzo ;D
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hahaha jesus christ shizzo ;D
I am befuddled. Maybe I should have brainstormed before I took over this shared account.
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I am befuddled. Maybe I should have brainstormed before I took over this shared account.
60 pounds fucking hell ;D ;D ;D
you are like the fat personal trainer telling their clients its all about will power ;D
great trolling bro 8)
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60 pounds fucking hell ;D ;D ;D
you are like the fat personal trainer telling their clients its all about will power ;D
great trolling bro 8)
I really did lose 60 pounds before. I was addicted to exercising then. Now I do the exact opposite. I eat probably 1/3 of my calories while I am working. Then I come home (starving and tired) and proceed to drink and eat into oblivion. Not a good look. Not what the "Shizzo Policy of Reduction" dictates.
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after 20 years of training, dieting, and using anabolics I have a very real grasp in the differece between water gain, glycogen, and lean tissue accumulation. the fact I 'look' the way I do should tell you I know my body very very well. you don't get to this level of development just by consuming anabolics and random calories and hoping it all works out.
so, that being said, you 'suspecting' that I'm not gaining lean tissue in a severe deficit does not make it fact.
what does make it fact is that I say that I am. it's really quite that simple.
why am i bothering to debate you in all this, despite knowing your only going to continue to blindly follow your own path? because others are experiencing the very things I am talking about in my posts here. i am not an anomoly. if I can save someone the pain of failure from following a less than optimal system, and make then pause for a moment and *think* then I've planted a seed that will hopefully bear then fruit in the years to come as they chase and attain their own aspirations and goals.
cheers.
Thanks again for the response.
I would be interested to now at what point you make your lean gains.
Is it during your 1000cal days , your binge days or is it when you blow your diet altogether and blow up from 229 to 249lbs?
well bro like gal said I've been eating everything in sight for the part 3 weeks. I mean it's been unreal. at least a liter of ice cream a day (w PB and jam mmm nomnomnom) pizza at least 2-3x a week, pastries and baked goods everyday. you get the idea. I don't think I've eaten <2k cal in the past 3 weeks prolly closer to 3-4 a day.
I got down to a bodyweight of 229 on my lowest day. yesterday I weighed 249.5. the odd part is despite the amount of food I have been eating I'm still prolly 6-7%. I benched today weight I havent touched since my big tren days. I've def been going thru a good phase for growth. I'll know how much tissue I've put on once I drop this water and get back in the hole. I've ben around 2k cal the past little while just trying to get my body re acclimated to the diet.
in short another advantage to this system is that it sets you up for a massive growth phase your body is starving to grow. the trick is to know when to throttle back before you start getting too fat again cause it will happen fast. ive found in this the body can only absorb so many cals. after that it goes to fat. but what it does absorb it uses as remarkably efficient as when in a severe deficit.
this time I'm going to <4% in the next 7 weeks. ahouldnt take that long but thats the goal. my body is tired of eating and wants to lean up.
cheers dude!
The reason I ask is because you don't seem to stick to the 1000cals for very long (who buys 8 kilos of peanut butter?)so the muscle gains you claim are unlikely to be the result of the calorific deficit.
How much muscle have you gained in the last 12 months(new muscle I mean, not regained after your layoff)
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Here is another helpful tip (especially for naturals). Dont be afraid to front load calories if you work a manual labor job. It would be smart to eat the bulk of your daily intake while you are working(burning calories). Eat just enough to stave off hunger after you are done working.
Briliant.
Best post in the thread. ;D
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Thanks again for the response.
I would be interested to now at what point you make your lean gains.
Is it during your 1000cal days , your binge days or is it when you blow your diet altogether and blow up from 229 to 249lbs?
The reason I ask is because you don't seem to stick to the 1000cals for very long (who buys 8 kilos of peanut butter?)so the muscle gains you claim are unlikely to be the result of the calorific deficit.
How much muscle have you gained in the last 12 months(new muscle I mean, not regained after your layoff)
if you truly are interested in knowing how it's possible to gain lean tissue in a calorie deficit I urge you to contact Galeniko. we've put together quite a concise guide to losing fat called 'the Galeniko- no one method'- it is thee most rapid fat loss, user friendly system ever devised and one if the benefits of this is lean tissue accumulation as we outline in the book.
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if you truly are interested in knowing how it's possible to gain lean tissue in a calorie deficit I urge you to contact Galeniko. we've put together quite a concise guide to losing fat called 'the Galeniko- no one method'- it is thee most rapid fat loss, user friendly system ever devised and one if the benefits of this is lean tissue accumulation as we outline in the book.
But have you really gained any new muscle mass over the last year, you claim you have, you even claimed a 2.5lb gain in a week or so in another post??
I don't want to argue with you but the inconsistency in your posting is very confusing.
Im not going to shell out $20 when you cant even get your posts straight.
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But have you really gained any new muscle mass over the last year, you claim you have, you even claimed a 2.5lb gain in a week or so in another post??
I don't want to argue with you but the inconsistency in your posting is very confusing.
Im not going to shell out $20 when you cant even get your posts straight.
your loss. :)
others have spent $20 well, took a chance, stepped outside of what they 'believed to be true', purchased our guide to rapid weight loss and lean tissue repair and accumulation and are succeeding brilliantly.
in fact there hasn't not been ONE negative review from those who have put the system into practise. I'm sure if I took the time to look I could find several people who say dieting your way just doesn't work for them. that alone is proof that your method is not optimal, while ours is.
in fact they are validating our claims that not only does it work as we say it will, it works better than anything they have ever tried.
the numerous threads and posts created by those using and applying what we have created bears witness to the strength of the 'Galeniko- no one system'.
fell free to pm galineko for ordering information and start changing your life.
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your loss. :)
others have spent $20 well, took a chance, stepped outside of what they 'believed to be true', purchased our guide to rapid weight loss and lean tissue repair and accumulation and are succeeding brilliantly.
in fact there hasn't not been ONE negative review from those who have put the system into practise. I'm sure if I took the time to look I could find several people who say dieting your way just doesn't work for them. that alone is proof that your method is not optimal, while ours is.
in fact they are validating our claims that not only does it work as we say it will, it works better than anything they have ever tried.
the numerous threads and posts created by those using and applying what we have created bears witness to the strength of the 'Galeniko- no one system'.
Im really surprised you don't want to answer simple questions, you sound a bit like a snake oil salesman at the moment trying to get me to buy something on the strength of your word.
I might do that if you could keep a consistency with your words in the first place.
in fact there hasn't not been ONE negative review from those who have put the system into practise. I'm sure if I took the time to look I could find several people who say dieting your way just doesn't work for them. that alone is proof that your method is not optimal, while ours is.
Your system doesn't work for me and it wouldn't work for others who cant tolerate zero carbs.
Also I do believe your diet is based around ego and to you anyone who fails it isn't really worth anything, so on that basis you are not going to have people saying it doesn't work are you?
If you found me someone who told you my diet didn't work for them I would tell you they were lying or they didn't follow it.
Its impossible not to lose weight, just like its impossible not to lose weight on your diet.
You still have the odd habit of totally ignoring anything that challenges you as well.
Its very strange behaviour indeed.
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fell free to pm galineko for ordering information and start changing your life.
If you mean getting myself to sub 4% bf and panicking every time I look in the mirror if I smooth over if I have eaten a peanut too many, no thanks mate, Im happy as I am.
And I can get to the same levels of BF than you and gal if I chose to, its just not that important to me.
If I was considering competing I would just up my game and drop the excess fat and water, its easy.
Im about two weeks and a couple days low sodium away. ;)
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you only have to look at no one
he is a walking advert for his diet gal too
Yes, the testimony of a single person with an admitted history of PED abuse and who is currently on half a gram plus of AAS and utilizing growth hormone should definitely be taken to be indicative of a diet's likely results.
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What is the price of this text?
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Yes, the testimony of a single person with an admitted history of PED abuse and who is currently on half a gram plus of AAS and utilizing growth hormone should definitely be taken to be indicative of a diet's likely results.
I'd like to thank you for your contribution.
I guessed you've missed the DOZENS of testimonials made by those who are applying the system. EVERYONE of them says it works exactly like we said it would.
blah blah blah steroids blah blah blah gh. lol sing a different tune slippy- this one is getting old. anabolics has nothing to do with success. it it were your boy Jeffly would be shredded cause he's using as much as I am. sadly enough for you, the majority of our users is natural and experiencing amazing results.
we are helping people change their lives. get over it.
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What is the price of this text?
$20 sir.
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yeah i dont get it,everyone who went through with it had very good results.
drugs,no drugs, lots of drugs, neither gh nor steroids greatly help fatloss, they do other things.
yes they greatly increase your lean muscle tissue which increases your resting metabolic rate hence just sitting around with the added muscle burns additional calories and as such burns fat.
to say drugs don't burn fat is a bit of a misnomer.
If someone natty and someone on a couple of grams of gear did both our diets the drug user would look vastly superior.
The difference is the natty person would retain more muscle tissue on my diet that yours due to the additional calories and duration of the diet.
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Yes, the testimony of a single person with an admitted history of PED abuse and who is currently on half a gram plus of AAS and utilizing growth hormone should definitely be taken to be indicative of a diet's likely results.
have you seen the oz thread
pretty dramatic transformation
drugs are part of the mix in any diet for body builders
being a natural blows what ever you eat
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If raw grilled or fried on PAM chicken breast with basic things like salt, pepper and shit isn't appealing to you then you have no idea how to cook cephissus. You can make it delicious.
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If raw grilled or fried on PAM chicken breast with basic things like salt, pepper and shit isn't appealing to you then you have no idea how to cook cephissus. You can make it delicious.
haha im one of the best cooks on the site, guaranteed
part of the thing is, i assume no seasonings or anything when people just say "200g chicken"
even regardless of flavor, though, i just don't feel right eating one type of food by itself
i actually find a plate of steamed broccoli quite good, for example, but just eating it without chicken breast or something drains all the appeal for me.
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haha im one of the best cooks on the site, guaranteed
I hear your filet mignon with seasonable vegetables served with an orange jous and a poppuette of baby cabbage is to die for
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I guessed you've missed the DOZENS of testimonials made by those who are applying the system. EVERYONE of them says it works exactly like we said it would
Could you please link me to the DOZENS (your emphasis not mine) of testimonials.
I only recall about 4
Thank you.
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I really did lose 60 pounds before. I was addicted to exercising then. Now I do the exact opposite. I eat probably 1/3 of my calories while I am working. Then I come home (starving and tired) and proceed to drink and eat into oblivion. Not a good look. Not what the "Shizzo Policy of Reduction" dictates.
Sounds like it is time for a change and you know it.
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If you are currently seeking to lose weight and your weight is static. Simply cut out 1/3 of your daily food intake.
It doesn't matter what you eat as long as you reduce your portion size. You can lose weight like this without altering your current lifestyle one bit.
After 1 month if you stick to it, you will have lost weight. If not, you didn't stick to it.
If you are gaining weight at the moment cut your food portions in half for one month.
If you have made it to here you owe me £20.
LOL. I want at least a signed photograph to go with that :D
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LOL. I want at least a signed photograph to go with that :D
make sure he puts a return address on it
that shit would be worth some money on here
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LOL. I want at least a signed photograph to go with that :D
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_k3qghCEWHIk/TC0YkdwaqDI/AAAAAAAABDU/PrzsZT3yNAg/s1600/fat_guy_3.jpg)
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make sure he puts a return address on it
that shit would be worth some money on here
Worth money?
Who too?
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Worth money?
Who too?
the troll police
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;)
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the troll police
Not any more.
;D
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scientific discovery: eat less, lose weight! read all about it
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scientific discovery: eat less, lose weight! read all about it
It's amazing isn't it?
I couldn't believe it when I came across this revolutionary discovery.
I had to sit down for a minute, a real breath taker.
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It's amazing isn't it?
I couldn't believe it when I came across this revolutionary discovery.
I had to sit down for a minute, a real breath taker.
Here I am trying to eat myself thin. Never gave it a thought before