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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Vince B on November 04, 2013, 06:54:10 PM
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I just wonder what have OMR and RA done in bodybuilding? Have they paid their dues? Blue stars? What you!
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I just wonder what have OMR and RA done in bodybuilding? Have they paid their dues? Blue stars? What you!
Ok, so now you are attacking Ron Avidan and I....
Really Vince?
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vince do you even think about researching heme-iron you dumbass?
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No OMR, just wanted to use the phrase, "What you?"
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I just wonder what have OMR and RA done in bodybuilding? Have they paid their dues? Blue stars? What you!
I'm going to enjoy the end result of this one.... ;D
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Vince is senile forget to take his meds
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Vince G CSN MFT PHD.....what you! Oh, I remember now, you are a liar, fabricator and complete dork.
What have you won?
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vince is so old and stupid he doesnt care about eating heme iron because he figures "HEY IM GONNA DIE ANYWAYS"
stupid mother fucker is just wasting his last days arguing some shit like some beta poster would do as hes practicing his trolling
vince basil is clearly a beta poster. at his age he shouldnt be stuck in the mind of a teenager
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I wont defend your idiocy here, Vince B.
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I'm going to enjoy the end result of this one.... ;D
We all are Vince...we all are. ;D
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Vince G CSN MFT PHD.....what you! Oh, I remember now, you are a liar, fabricator and complete dork.
What have you won?
Thought u two were buddies? :-\
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Vince is too fucking stupid to realize that he'll never be given his blue starts because it's too fucking fun for Ron and Co. to watch him melt like a bitch all over the place.
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I just wonder what have OMR and RA done in bodybuilding? Have they paid their dues? Blue stars? What you!
Hey you crusty fuck....don't make me come down and slap you so hard your colostomy bag dislodges. I mean it. How does it feel to be to so hated by so many people Vincent?
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vince is so old and stupid he doesnt care about eating heme iron because he figures "HEY IM GONNA DIE ANYWAYS"
stupid mother fucker is just wasting his last days arguing some shit like some beta poster would do as hes practicing his trolling
What you, Johnny Falcon? I would destroy you in anything intellectual. Plus I could remove your ribs with my bare hands. Show some respect.
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vince is so old and stupid he doesnt care about eating heme iron because he figures "HEY IM GONNA DIE ANYWAYS"
stupid mother fucker is just wasting his last days arguing some shit like some beta poster would do as hes practicing his trolling
vince basil is clearly a beta poster. at his age he shouldnt be stuck in the mind of a teenager
i got love and respect for vince but he dissapoints me every time he posts latley its like he was to act and talk like a stupid ignorant kid
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Someone made a good point about Basile hating Goodrum so much because they are so alike.
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i got love and respect for vince but he dissapoints me every time he posts latley its like he was to act and talk like a stupid ignorant kid
You know what man I don't remember Basile being like this 8 years ago. I liked him then.
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Hey you crusty fuck....don't make me come down and slap you so hard your colostomy bag dislodges. I mean it. How does it feel to be to so hated by so many people Vincent?
People? You are collectively a bunch of cowards hiding behind anonymous handles. That isn't manly so don't threaten me with your shit. You aren't people and don't deserve to be respected.
Come out and post under your real name if you have any integrity and fortitude.
What you?
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You know what man I don't remember Basile being like this 8 years ago. I liked him then.
i agree he used to talk about workout theories and how he was going to build up his forearms
now hes just so deluded from the heme-iron
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Vince, would Arnold give you Blue Stars?
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Vince G CSN MFT PHD.....what you! Oh, I remember now, you are a liar, fabricator and complete dork.
What have you won?
Blue Stars and an unbanned account at Ironage....where's yours at....oh that's right you don't have any.....too bad.
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People? You are collectively a bunch of cowards hiding behind anonymous handles. That isn't manly so don't threaten me with your shit. You aren't people and don't deserve to be respected.
Come out and post under your real name if you have any integrity and fortitude.
What you?
Yes.."people". MANY know who I am. I can and will threaten you. I garnish more respect that you can even imagine. You're an obese wanna be. You really don't quite grasp the concept that you aren't liked here. People aren't laughing WITH you...but always AT YOU. Nothing would give me more pleasure than to kick your teeth in. Sad thing is this...mother nature did that for me already.
Fucking pedophile.
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Vince cannot even have an intelligent conversation about that damn heme-iron.
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You know what man I don't remember Basile being like this 8 years ago. I liked him then.
Who were you 8 years ago?
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Who were you 8 years ago?
A young kid. Wasn't banned or timed-out or anything. Just a young kid I'd like to forget.
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Yes.."people". MANY know who I am. I can and will threaten you. I garnish more respect that you can even imagine. You're an obese wanna be. You really don't quite grasp the concept that you aren't liked here. People aren't laughing WITH you...but always AT YOU. Nothing would give me more pleasure than to kick your teeth in. Sad thing is this...mother nature did that for me already.
Fucking pedophile.
These kind of remarks... no good. Not cool. Not cool at all.
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I just wonder what have OMR and RA done in bodybuilding? Have they paid their dues? Blue stars? What you!
omr trains,you know,a ctualy works out.
and ron,well,what has ron done?
for example,he created this website.
theres an italian saying" you dont shit where you eat"
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Gotta love the Shizzle-esque expression "What You!?!?" :D
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Vince G CSN MFT PHD.....what you! Oh, I remember now, you are a liar, fabricator and complete dork.
What have you won?
LOL - Goodrum looks HORRIBLE
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Vince cannot even have an intelligent conversation about that damn heme-iron.
i noticed this too
wtf is wrong with him, is he scared?
old people have this weird fear that i cant understand
just let down your fucking guard once in a while it feels good to do so you know
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vince will shun his few friends on getbig only to insult them back
while his friends STILL remain loyal
what a peice of shit vince is
but you know im still a fan
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Vince, would Arnold give you Blue Stars?
Yes Vince is still bitter at Arnold
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Yes Vince is still bitter at Arnold
Vince would tremble if he heard that familar voice and accent laugh as he says, "Vince, hahaha...no Blue Stars for you...just like last time..." As he picks booty up and then turns to Vince and says, "You still can't win the girl...how does it feel to be amongst the 'flotsam'? And no I won't be back..."
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People? You are collectively a bunch of cowards hiding behind anonymous handles. That isn't manly so don't threaten me with your shit. You aren't people and don't deserve to be respected.
Come out and post under your real name if you have any integrity and fortitude.
What you?
In all seriousness, I talked to Dallas at Ironage and that was very disrespectful what you did over there.
You won't get a damn ounce of sympathy from me.
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Vince would tremble if he heard that familar voice and accent laugh as he says, "Vince, hahaha...no Blue Stars for you...just like last time..." As he picks booty up and then turns to Vince and says, "You still can't win the girl...how does it feel to be amongst the 'flotsam'? And no I won't be back..."
;D
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Vince Basile is acting like a 13 year old drama queen girl - again.
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WHAT YOU!?!?!
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omr trains,you know,a ctualy works out.
and ron,well,what has ron done?
for example,he created this website.
theres an italian saying" you dont shit where you eat"
are you saying that vince will be up for nomination in the ban fest soon?
Vince would tremble if he heard that familar voice and accent laugh as he says, "Vince, hahaha...no Blue Stars for you...just like last time..."
I totally heard Arnold say that in my head ;D
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Vince cannot even have an intelligent conversation about that damn heme-iron.
Sadly, Falcon cannot either. :-\
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Sadly, Falcon cannot either. :-\
Falcon is Great either way though
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Vince would tremble if he heard that familar voice and accent laugh as he says, "Vince, hahaha...no Blue Stars for you...just like last time..." As he picks booty up and then turns to Vince and says, "You still can't win the girl...how does it feel to be amongst the 'flotsam'? And no I won't be back..."
Yes please...Arnold is carrying me. ;D
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Vince Basile is acting like a 13 year old drama queen girl - again.
Naw, he singlehandedly just re-coined the expression "what you" on getbig and now you will hear this for some months.
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what's your point vince,one more rep still discussed or added his opinion on bodybuilding unlike the 'banned'gentleman in question who offered nothing in terms of lifting,bbing,or offered any insight or displayed a physique at ant time here for critique .
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Yes please...Arnold is carrying me. ;D
Would u like to be lumped with Arnold?
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These kind of remarks... no good. Not cool. Not cool at all.
Perhaps you are unaware of the comments Vince made about young girls. I am sure someone could produce them.
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Yes please...Arnold is carrying me. ;D
I don't think he's that strong anymore.
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OMR gave hapless Shizzo the boot and doesn't ban jerks like Krankenstein. What a lamentable ethical standard. Typical of Getbig.
Ron will NEVER have blue stars so who needs them. Goodrum deserved a medal for getting up on stage to compete.
What you?
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I don't think he's that strong anymore.
He is, I am a lightweight.
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Sadly, Falcon cannot either. :-\
Actually he's fairly intelligent it's just that his messages are cryptic.
What you?
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OMR gave hapless Shizzo the boot and doesn't ban jerks like Krankenstein. What a lamentable ethical standard. Typical of Getbig.
Ron will NEVER have blue stars so who needs them. Goodrum deserved a medal for getting up on stage to compete.
What you?
Krank is a man of honor who shares bodybuilding knowledge with fellow getbiggers, as well as chiropractic insight that most of us don't have.
He brings humor and wit to the forum.
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Perhaps you are unaware of the comments Vince made about young girls. I am sure someone could produce them.
I doubt his comments truly warrant the title of pedophile. But I'll give you a chance to back up your accusations.
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Vince cannot even have an intelligent conversation about that damn heme-iron.
Haha, gold!
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Krank is a man of honor who shares bodybuilding knowledge with fellow getbiggers, as well as chiropractic insight that most of us don't have.
He brings humor and wit to the forum.
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So it is okay for him to slander me and nothing is done? That is truly sad. What about the rules re slander on Getbig?
Is there a rule that says Basile doesn't deserve blue stars and it is okay that others slander him?
What you, indeed!
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So it is okay for him to slander me and nothing is done? That is truly sad. What about the rules re slander on Getbig?
Is there a rule that says Basile doesn't deserve blue stars and it is okay that others slander him?
What you, indeed!
That because no one respects or cares about you.
And you don't get your stars because it's much more amusing for Ron to watch you freak out about it and cry.
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Krankenstein has a challenge. Post your comments under your real name and see how much fun it is.
What you!
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Yes please...Arnold is carrying me. ;D
We're watching Basile melt. Go whore elsewhere.
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Krankenstein has a challenge. Post your comments under your real name and see how much fun it is.
What you!
Has Shiz inspired you? Grow the fuck up, old man!
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We're watching Basile melt. Go whore elsewhere.
Fuck off yourself.
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Krankenstein has a challenge. Post your comments under your real name and see how much fun it is.
What you!
Let's debate Karl Popper's take on Conjecture.
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Fuck off yourself.
Yes yes, etc etc.
Go whore elsewhere.
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Yes yes, etc etc.
Go whore elsewhere.
Fuck off!
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Fuck off!
Whore is melting :D
What's up whore? Webcamming went bad last night?
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Krank is a man of honor who shares bodybuilding knowledge with fellow getbiggers, as well as chiropractic insight that most of us don't have.
He brings humor and wit to the forum.
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You forgot to add "IMO".
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What is this "What, you?" bullshit? Go somewhere you're wanted, Vince.
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Krankenstein has a challenge. Post your comments under your real name and see how much fun it is.
What you!
If you're gonna accuse another man of being a pedophile you need to be man enough to do it under your real name.
Well, Krank, WHAT YOU?
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You forgot to add "IMO".
OMR is a good people
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Maybe I'm reading this wrong but it seems to me in Basile's first post he was mocking Shizzo.
We all read into things a different way.
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Maybe I'm reading this wrong but it seems to me in Basile's first post he was mocking Shizzo.
We all read into things a different way.
I think Vince is just fucking around.
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OMR is a good people
Yes, as is everybody on here pretty much.
I don't agree with someone because I like them or don't like them...I agree or disagree with them based on their argument and or actions.
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Yes please...Arnold is carrying me. ;D
Good God, your avatar looks amazing!
THE BEEF
P.S. Obviously Vince is drinking again.
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If you're gonna accuse another man of being a pedophile you need to be man enough to do it under your real name.
Well, Krank, WHAT YOU?
Wolfie fuck off with this. You need to post up a pic holding a sign saying wolfie! ;)
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Good God, you avatar looks amazing!
THE BEEF
P.S. Obviously Vince is drinking again.
Thank you BEEF.
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I think Vince is just fucking around.
As do I.
But he has "Booty" syndrome....it doesn't matter what they post....people respond to their feelings towards them instead of what they have expressed.
Booty or Vince could rescue a newborn baby from a burning house, and people would find a way to hate on their actions because of who they are, and not what they've done.
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As do I.
But he has "Booty" syndrome....it doesn't matter what they post....people respond to their feelings towards them instead of what they have expressed.
Booty or Vince could rescue a newborn baby from a burning house, and people would find a way to hate on their actions because of who they are, and not what they've done.
Correct.
Booty because it's fun and she's about as intelligent as a box of rocks.
Basile because he's such a fucking shitbag.
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As do I.
But he has "Booty" syndrome....it doesn't matter what they post....people respond to their feelings towards them instead of what they have expressed.
Booty or Vince could rescue a newborn baby from a burning house, and people would find a way to hate on their actions because of who they are, and not what they've done.
Not really. Booty is an irritating attention-seeking unemployed granny that constantly whores for attention. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence knows what she is and try to pass herself off as.
Vince is from the old school and while that shit is admirable, it doesn't help on here. He can contribute when he's on his medicine and actually engage in thought provoking conversation. Too bad the old boy lost his medication lately.
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Correct.
Booty because it's fun and she's about as intelligent as a box of rocks.
Basile because he's such a fucking shitbag.
Totally disagree . . . read 1000's of her posts on many boards, a very sharp gal.
Vince, yes.
THE BEEF
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Totally disagree . . . read 100's of her posts on many boards, a very sharp gal.
Vince, yes.
THE BEEF
gonna have to disagree. Read most of her posts..... ill give her credit for thick skin, but sharp she is not. Most guys (not necessarily you) her tits and instantly start witb the "oh, shes smart, funny, ontelligent, yadda yadda yadda" when really they mean "I like your tits im horny please fuck me"
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110% agree Shockwave. Unfortunately some guys are always going to be puppies that run after women and whores the moment she throws a belly rub their way.
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Booty or Vince could rescue a newborn baby from a burning house, and people would find a way to hate on their actions because of who they are, and not what they've done.
Yes but that isn't reality is it now? It's rather a ridiculous example.
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Booty and I could take on the Getbig flotsam with no worries at all. Come to think about it I miss Keith....No Worries.
Must buy Booty dinner next time I am up north.
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Blue stars Vince? This is what this is all about? Are you drunk posting? When was the last time you competed? 1912? Get over it. Fuck.
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I doubt his comments truly warrant the title of pedophile. But I'll give you a chance to back up your accusations.
Ha Ha...you will give me the chance? So magnanimous of you.
What happens if I don't?
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Coach, those stars mean nothing to me. The principle means something and therefore I conclude that Ron can't give me Blue Stars because Getbig doesn't condone critics of the IFBB.
Where are Booty's Blue Stars? She has competed and won titles.
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Krankenstein has a challenge. Post your comments under your real name and see how much fun it is.
What you!
A challenge from the likes of you? HA Laughable. You're a joke on here. An easy, readily accessible source of humor. God, I so wish you were here in the states.
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Ha Ha...you will give me the chance? So magnanimous of you.
What happens if I don't?
LOL. Typical cowardly bigmouth of Getbig. What you!! We all know you wouldn't dare use your real name. Just like those cowards who post photos without faces.
What do you get out of hiding behind names except safety? What kind of game is this? Bizarre minds that assemble here = flotsam.
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Naw, he singlehandedly just re-coined the expression "what you" on getbig and now you will hear this for some months.
Yes in see this phrase taking off in a big way.
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gonna have to disagree. Read most of her posts..... ill give her credit for thick skin, but sharp she is not. Most guys (not necessarily you) her tits and instantly start witb the "oh, shes smart, funny, ontelligent, yadda yadda yadda" when really they mean "I like your tits im horny please fuck me"
THE BEEF respects you . . . but she has some very structured and evident posts under her belt. Fact. And yes, THE BEEF likes em and would die for that, however its not a possibility :'(.
Respectfully,
THE BEEF
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If you're gonna accuse another man of being a pedophile you need to be man enough to do it under your real name.
Well, Krank, WHAT YOU?
Accuse him in my real name....LOL....this shit is really getting good.
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LOL. Typical cowardly bigmouth of Getbig. What you!! We all know you wouldn't dare use your real name. Just like those cowards who post photos without faces.
What do you get out of hiding behind names except safety? What kind of game is this? Bizarre minds that assemble here = flotsam.
Many know my name on Vincey.....you are getting bent because you don't know my real name. I will give you a hint....its not Vince.
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A challenge from the likes of you? HA Laughable. You're a joke on here. An easy, readily accessible source of humor. God, I so wish you were here in the states.
I haven't met any Getbiggers in real life except AVBG. He was easy to dispose of in person. He couldn't carry my lunch bag. What you, AVBG?
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Coach, those stars mean nothing to me. The principle means something and therefore I conclude that Ron can't give me Blue Stars because Getbig doesn't condone critics of the IFBB.
Where are Booty's Blue Stars? She has competed and won titles.
Nobody here gives her legitimacy apart from a senile old man and throng of obese midgets.
You're bitter about the stars old tosser. Admit that a bitmap in star-like shapes coloured in #0000FF is making you melt
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I haven't met any Getbiggers in real life except AVBG. He was easy to dispose of in person. He couldn't carry my lunch bag. What you, AVBG?
You are staring at Arnold with such longing and affection. Such a wonderful picture.....
He was easy to dispose of? Who are you...Tony Soprano? More like Tony's dad...shits in his pants and can't get it up without a little help. I hung out with Blockhead. Hows that?
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LOL. Typical cowardly bigmouth of Getbig. What you!! We all know you wouldn't dare use your real name. Just like those cowards who post photos without faces.
What do you get out of hiding behind names except safety? What kind of game is this? Bizarre minds that assemble here = flotsam.
Hey ass wipe, for the record, I'm friends with Krank in REAL LIFE. He's a wealthy successful doctor, who makes one hell of a living helping people on a daily basis as well as giving away a lot of free care to people in hard financial situations.
He also is one of the few fellas here to win a pro card through any organization and he still trains his tits off to this day.
So for the record, he is real, and he is as legit as they come, but you won't hear him boast about these things or ask for praises. Now....who the fuck are you again and what have you ever done with your life you bitter old bastard?
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I haven't met any Getbiggers in real life except AVBG. He was easy to dispose of in person. He couldn't carry my lunch bag. What you, AVBG?
This is one of the gayest photos I've ever seen. You might as well be licking your lips and groping his inner thigh.
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I haven't met any Getbiggers in real life except AVBG. He was easy to dispose of in person. He couldn't carry my lunch bag. What you, AVBG?
Who is the queen with Arnold?
THE BEEF
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Vince built a biceps curl machine that is used exclusively in one of the top 1,000 gyms in Australia.
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Accuse him in my real name....LOL....this shit is really getting good.
Some people here are men of honor. They have codes that they follow. But I guess you have no problem accusing someone of being a pedophile behind the safety and anonymity of the internet.
We're cutt from a different cloth.
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James, I know there are some here who could comprehend the philosophy of science. Most post here for the laughs which is okay. And the contest results. The rest of the time is for amusement.
I posted my theories of hypertrophy and the challenged flotsam needed to be spoon fed because they can't comprehend nor apply a theory. That is hardly my fault.
Booty is a rare gal who survives the bullshit handed out to her. For that she has my respect. She likes men and knows how to deal with them.
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Coach, those stars mean nothing to me. The principle means something and therefore I conclude that Ron can't give me Blue Stars because Getbig doesn't condone critics of the IFBB.
Where are Booty's Blue Stars? She has competed and won titles.
You can't be serious..lol.
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James, I know there are some here who could comprehend the philosophy of science. Most post here for the laughs which is okay. And the contest results. The rest of the time is for amusement.
I posted my theories of hypertrophy and the challenged flotsam needed to be spoon fed because they can't comprehend nor apply a theory. That is hardly my fault.
Booty is a rare gal who survives the bullshit handed out to her. For that she has my respect. She likes men and knows how to deal with them.
Vince, didn't you put your theory to the test in an experiment some years ago?
Results?
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You know what disappoints me about musclemen? Most are thick....just like the stereotype portrays. On Getbig they cannot debate issues so default to attacking the person.
That is the typical Getbigger. I challenge you dimwits to kill the argument, not the person. What you!
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James, I know there are some here who could comprehend the philosophy of science. Most post here for the laughs which is okay. And the contest results. The rest of the time is for amusement.
I posted my theories of hypertrophy and the challenged flotsam needed to be spoon fed because they can't comprehend nor apply a theory. That is hardly my fault.
Booty is a rare gal who survives the bullshit handed out to her. For that she has my respect. She likes men and knows how to deal with them.
"Bodybuilders need 50g of protein per day.....MAXIMUM!"
-Vince Basile
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Hey ass wipe, for the record, I'm friends with Krank in REAL LIFE. He's a wealthy successful doctor, who makes one hell of a living helping people on a daily basis as well as giving away a lot of free care to people in hard financial situations.
He also is one of the few fellas here to win a pro card through any organization and he still trains his tits off to this day.
So for the record, he is real, and he is as legit as they come, but you won't hear him boast about these things or ask for praises. Now....who the fuck are you again and what have you ever done with your life you bitter old bastard?
Yippee. Now we know that he can't post using his real name because he won't risk a lawsuit. If he is a doctor then his behaviour on Getbig is that of a bona fide asshole.
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I stand by what I said about protein. Too many dunces here to know any better. There is no need to take supplements or drugs. But the flotsam don't believe that.
Again, that is hardly my fault. Knuckleheads, What you!
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:D
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Vince is a tough old Aussie cobba I'll give him that.
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Yippee. Now we know that he can't post using his real name because he won't risk a lawsuit. If he is a doctor then his behaviour on Getbig is that of a bona fide asshole.
Post doesn't make sense. He hasn't done anything to warrant a law suit you idiot.
Also who are you to judge his behavior? Are you the Internet police? LOL STFU old man.
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James, I know there are some here who could comprehend the philosophy of science. Most post here for the laughs which is okay. And the contest results. The rest of the time is for amusement.
I posted my theories of hypertrophy and the challenged flotsam needed to be spoon fed because they can't comprehend nor apply a theory. That is hardly my fault.
Booty is a rare gal who survives the bullshit handed out to her. For that she has my respect. She likes men and knows how to deal with them.
Keep folding your arms like that to make it appear that you still have something resembling a physique.
Your theories are about as laughable as the "flat earth" stuff. I am sure Karen sleeps better at night knowing that you carry this torch for her. ::)
Actually Vince...I would prefer you died rather than kill the argument. Really...just stop breathing. You do that and I will arrange for you to have blue stars on your coffin. Deal?
Yes, I am an asshole. Where is that illegal? Vince knows my name, Groink does, OMR does, Blockhead does...and I think one or two others do. What is the basis for the lawsuit jiggle tits?
Go take a Geritol already fatty
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I would rank Vince among the least intelligent and most close-minded getbiggers.
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I would rank Vince among the least intelligent and most close-minded getbiggers.
My real name is Vince too..... :'(
I'm stuck with the shittiest posters of all time: the Vince's >:(
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My real name is Vince too..... :'(
I'm stuck with the shittiest posters of all time: the Vince's >:(
Goodrum is not so bad when he's not trying to sell you groceries.
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I would rank Vince among the least intelligent and most close-minded getbiggers.
id put booty heads and shoulders over vince in the intelligence department.
Basile is proof god has a sense of humor.
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My real name is Vince too..... :'(
I'm stuck with the shittiest posters of all time: the Vince's >:(
Nothing wrong with Vince Goodman.
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My real name is Vince too..... :'(
I'm stuck with the shittiest posters of all time: the Vince's >:(
:D
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id put booty heads and shoulders over vince in the intelligence department.
Basile is proof god has a sense of humor.
Yes I think Dave Czech and Khofo fella big snbt would give him a run as well.
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I would rank Vince among the least intelligent and most close-minded getbiggers.
Not least intelligent but he sure does come across as close-minded.
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You know what disappoints me about musclemen? Most are thick....just like the stereotype portrays. On Getbig they cannot debate issues so default to attacking the person.
That is the typical Getbigger. I challenge you dimwits to kill the argument, not the person. What you!
Vince making sense right here.
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Not really. Booty is an irritating attention-seeking unemployed granny that constantly whores for attention. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence knows what she is and try to pass herself off as.
Vince is from the old school and while that shit is admirable, it doesn't help on here. He can contribute when he's on his medicine and actually engage in thought provoking conversation. Too bad the old boy lost his medication lately.
You are James from nz.
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You are James from nz.
My name is James? Lol. Shouldn't you be running to my email address I left open on purpose to claim my name is James Lane :D
I'm from NZ? Lol
Though I'm in New Zealand right now as you've noticed when trawling through my post history.
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Vince making sense right here.
He is. But as you're not going to get good debate when calling people out. Vince claim to have theories. The correct scientific method would be to test those theories and post results. He didn't do that. Hence all he have are opinions. And we all have those.
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I would rank Vince among the least intelligent and most close-minded getbiggers.
I actually won't. He ain't a fool, just act the fool.
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Sometimes thinkers post theories that might be right. The trouble in bodybuilding is that everyone with 16 inch or larger arms thinks they are experts.
Those people seldom learn anything new. So when their gains stop they figure they need drugs. So that is what they do. When those gains don't
appear they blame their genetics. How can any intelligent people help musclemen? Impossible.
What you, indeed!
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He is. But as you're not going to get good debate when calling people out. Vince claim to have theories. The correct scientific method would be to test those theories and post results. He didn't do that. Hence all he have are opinions. And we all have those.
Exactly. He acts like "posing a theory" makes him some sort of scientific paragon. When you pose a theory the onus is not on others to prove it wrong, it is on you to prove it right, and all he ever does when questioned on anything is insult people and go all hurf durf flotsam hurf durf.
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id put booty heads and shoulders over vince in the intelligence department.
Basile is proof god has a sense of humor.
That putdown is funny. Misses the mark but that is what humour is partly about.
Most of you guys would consider IQ to mean image quality. That is okay, too. Nothing wrong with photography.
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I stand by what I said about protein. Too many dunces here to know any better. There is no need to take supplements or drugs. But the flotsam don't believe that.
Again, that is hardly my fault. Knuckleheads, What you!
50 grams to just survive Vince, not for bodybuilding purposes. I've been doing this for 40 years, it was Bullshit then and its Bullshit now. The difference between you and I is that I chose to keep up with research for the past 40 years while you're stuck in the stone age.
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Coach, you embarrass both yourself and my profession. I give you credit for your physique but your espoused theories about training leave much to be desired.
You are knowledgeable but hardly an authority.
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Vince has a right to ask the question.
What have I done in bodybuilding?
Hmm.. well.. I am NOT a bodybuilder, never have been... but I respect it, so technically, I have done nothing in 'bodybuilding' as a competitor.
But .... as a writer, photographer, interviewer, industry and supplement expert - I may have earned it just a little.
So Vince, when you have gone to about 15 Mr. Olympia's, 14 Arnold Classics, and close to 250 other NPC/IFBB contests so far, then lets talk a little more... As for magazines, so far so good, my pictures have been in about 40-50 different ones, and countless pictures all over (quite a few of them without credit to me, but I am used to that).
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Coach, you embarrass both yourself and my profession. I give you credit for your physique but your espoused theories about training leave much to be desired.
You are knowledgeable but hardly an authority.
Vince, you're not even in my atmosphere so don't even try.
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Following scientific method, all Vince have done is to propose a hypothesis. Broadly speaking, next comes experimentation.
There's none ....
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50 grams to just survive Vince, not for bodybuilding purposes. I've been doing this for 40 years, it was Bullshit then and its Bullshit now. The difference between you and I is that I chose to keep up with research for the past 40 years while you're stuck in the stone age.
I call bullshit on this claim. I rather doubt you have sufficient intelligence to comprehend the latest research in exercise science. I don't mean reading just the conclusions. The language used is specialized and
the concepts rather difficult. I don't understand them and neither do you. I could but I rather doubt you have the ability to do so. What you?
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Vince has a right to ask the question.
What have I done in bodybuilding?
Hmm.. well.. I am NOT a bodybuilder, never have been... but I respect it, so technically, I have done nothing in 'bodybuilding' as a competitor.
But .... as a writer, photographer, interviewer, industry and supplement expert - I may have earned it just a little.
So Vince, when you have gone to about 15 Mr. Olympia's, 14 Arnold Classics, and close to 250 other NPC/IFBB contests so far, then lets talk a little more... As for magazines, so far so good, my pictures have been in about 40-50 different ones, and countless pictures all over (quite a few of them without credit to me, but I am used to that).
Boooommmm!!!
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I call bullshit on this claim. I rather doubt you have sufficient intelligence to comprehend the latest research in exercise science. I don't mean reading just the conclusions. The language used is specialized and
the concepts rather difficult. I don't understand them and neither do you. I could but I rather doubt you have the ability to do so. What you?
Actually I do and the fact that 75% of it is almost irrelevant to day to day practical application is a moot point.
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Vince has a right to ask the question.
What have I done in bodybuilding?
Hmm.. well.. I am NOT a bodybuilder, never have been... but I respect it, so technically, I have done nothing in 'bodybuilding' as a competitor.
But .... as a writer, photographer, interviewer, industry and supplement expert - I may have earned it just a little.
So Vince, when you have gone to about 15 Mr. Olympia's, 14 Arnold Classics, and close to 250 other NPC/IFBB contests so far, then lets talk a little more... As for magazines, so far so good, my pictures have been in about 40-50 different ones, and countless pictures all over (quite a few of them without credit to me, but I am used to that).
Vince should just shut up and be happy he's not banned. Ron's the man!
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Vince has a right to ask the question.
What have I done in bodybuilding?
Hmm.. well.. I am NOT a bodybuilder, never have been... but I respect it, so technically, I have done nothing in 'bodybuilding' as a competitor.
But .... as a writer, photographer, interviewer, industry and supplement expert - I may have earned it just a little.
So Vince, when you have gone to about 15 Mr. Olympia's, 14 Arnold Classics, and close to 250 other NPC/IFBB contests so far, then lets talk a little more... As for magazines, so far so good, my pictures have been in about 40-50 different ones, and countless pictures all over (quite a few of them without credit to me, but I am used to that).
About time Ron joined in. Well, Ron, to pay your dues you can't do it by attending contests. Nice try.
Yes, you are a big fan of bodybuilding and good for you. However, until you build a physique or enter a contest you lack the vocabulary. Simple as that.
What covers have you had as a photographer? I have a few.
Sorry, but I don't recognize you as a supplement expert. If you have a graduate degree in nutrition then I apologize.
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Hey, no fair changing the thread title.
What you, Ron Avidan!
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About time Ron joined in. Well, Ron, to pay your dues you can't do it by attending contests. Nice try.
Yes, you are a big fan of bodybuilding and good for you. However, until you build a physique or enter a contest you lack the vocabulary. Simple as that.
What covers have you had as a photographer? I have a few.
Sorry, but I don't recognize you as a supplement expert. If you have a graduate degree in nutrition then I apologize.
Are you one of those who are delusional enough to think that getting a degree makes you an expert?
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you look homeless.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=183708.0;attach=216453;image)
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Divorced guys don't do so well. Wait and see. The photo was to test a new camera several years ago. Thanks for harvesting them from my website.
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About time Ron joined in. Well, Ron, to pay your dues you can't do it by attending contests. Nice try. Yes, you are a big fan of bodybuilding and good for you. However, until you build a physique or enter a contest you lack the vocabulary. Simple as that. What covers have you had as a photographer? I have a few. Sorry, but I don't recognize you as a supplement expert. If you have a graduate degree in nutrition then I apologize.
Too bad. You obviously don't realize that I have been in the supplement industry since 1991. First distributor of BSN on the west coast, same with ABB. We distribute a ton of brands, including Muscletech, Optimum, Gaspari, Nutrex, Labrada and many many more. So saying I am not a supplement expert is kinda funny (since I have over 20 years worth of experience). Now, saying I am not a nutritionist with a nutrition degree is cool. I have a business degree, and we hired a nutritionist expert when I need something at any time that I don't know. By the way, he works with me full time. (Now, also having this degree doesnt make you an expert - I have seen many 'nutritionist' experts give out a ton of wrong advice... worst than putting three economists in the same room).
Wow! Yes, I lack the vocabulary because I am not a bodybuilder. Really. You are saying because I don't grunt, I don't get it. Wow. (Had to put wow in there again because you amaze me at how small you think).
As for photography, congratulations on your 'covers'. When was the last time you were published? This year? Last year? Or you got lucky... I am 'lucky' enough that Flex Magazine and Ironman Magazine use some of my pics, which I truly appreciate. Wait until the next issue of Flex...
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About time Ron joined in. Well, Ron, to pay your dues you can't do it by attending contests. Nice try.
Yes, you are a big fan of bodybuilding and good for you. However, until you build a physique or enter a contest you lack the vocabulary. Simple as that.
What covers have you had as a photographer? I have a few.
Sorry, but I don't recognize you as a supplement expert. If you have a graduate degree in nutrition then I apologize.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....
You are so all over the place. One post you make perfect sense and a sound argument.
The next post is something like this.......^^^^^^^^^ (wtf ::))
HAHAHAHAHAHA.
There is so much funny in this post. ;D You are right out to lunch but God bless your soul you are entertaining. Shizzo was NOT entertaining........this absolutely is.
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Ron, you don't have to validate yourself. Being in the supplement industry can make you an expert in nutrition if you developed the products. You are a businessman, yes.
Let me explain about having the vocabulary so you know the background. I was watching a TV show about billiards. The commentator was chatting with Ray Reardon, a former champion, and asked if a woman
would ever be the world champion. Ray, earnestly replied that he didn't think so. Why not, he was asked? Well, because they don't have the vocabulary! Now do you get it? I was jesting, Ron.
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Ron I have a serious question that needs answering.
Canon or Nikon?
I have a 7d btw.
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Divorced guys don't do so well. Wait and see. The photo was to test a new camera several years ago. Thanks for harvesting them from my website.
From your website? I got the image off of google images lol
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you fools "need to get a life"
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wtf is all this "drama"
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you fools "need to get a life"
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wtf is all this "drama"
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Yes, instead, they should be looking through google images for pics of ronnie coleman, just like you :D :D
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Yes, instead, they should be looking through google images for pics of ronnie coleman, just like you :D :D
a much superior alternative indeed
ronnie a true inspiration to the nation
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a much superior alternative indeed
ronnie a true inspiration to the nation
Yes, a true inspiration is Goodrum
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=110931.0;attach=124992;image)
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Yes, a true inspiration is Goodrum
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=110931.0;attach=124992;image)
:-X lls hth
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a much superior alternative indeed
ronnie a true inspiration to the nation
"Never in my life. First time for everything... that's why we live in this world" - Ronnie Dean Coleman, Iron Warrior and Philosopher
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Ron I have a serious question that needs answering.
Canon or Nikon?
I have a 7d btw.
Once you choose, hard to switch. I chose Canon. I have a 7D, and a 40D as a backup or secondary camera for now. Maybe one more next year. BUT - you need lenses. I have a Canon 17-55 2.8 IS Lens, and a Canon 70-200 2.8 IS Lens, as well as my favorite candid one, a Canon 28-135 simple Lens. Also, a Canon 1.4 50mm Lens. And then a Speedlite 580X... and then... well ...
Once you realize some of the lenses cost more than the camera... that is where it gets expensive...
Well.. will be using the camera again this Saturday in Culver City at the NPC Iron Games...
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"Never in my life. First time for everything... that's why we live in this world" - Ronnie Dean Coleman, Iron Warrior and Philosopher
College graduate, officer of the peace, ceo of ronnie coleman signature supplements, father of many many children
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:-X lls hth
EVERYTHING is imaginary here, not just his lats.
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I am into photography in a big way. Have 2 X Canon 5DII, Canon 60D, Sony NEX7, Sigma DP3M with Foveon sensor. Lens from 8-15 to 500mmL.
For contests I sit in the middle or at the back with telephoto lenses.
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I am into photography in a big way. Have 2 X Canon 5DII, Canon 60D, Sony NEX7, Sigma DP3M with Foveon sensor. Lens from 8-15 to 500mmL.
For contests I sit in the middle or at the back with telephoto lenses.
Cool. For contests, I sit in the row right after the judges... hence, I don't need the telephoto lens, but get clearer pics with less noise.
Besides, I enjoy watching the bikini competitors a little closer than the middle or back row...
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Ron I have a serious question that needs answering.
Canon or Nikon?
I have a 7d btw.
7d is a great camera even if its a couple of years old
Ontopic: paid your dues? This is bodybuilding not some well respected sport or organisation. What does it mean with paying your dues in bodybuilding, doin enough g4p or?
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I am into photography in a big way. Have 2 X Canon 5DII, Canon 60D, Sony NEX7, Sigma DP3M with Foveon sensor. Lens from 8-15 to 500mmL.
For contests I sit in the middle or at the back with telephoto lenses.
Please post the best shot you've taken this year
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Once you choose, hard to switch. I chose Canon. I have a 7D, and a 40D as a backup or secondary camera for now. Maybe one more next year. BUT - you need lenses. I have a Canon 17-55 2.8 IS Lens, and a Canon 70-200 2.8 IS Lens, as well as my favorite candid one, a Canon 28-135 simple Lens. Also, a Canon 1.4 50mm Lens. And then a Speedlite 580X... and then... well ...
Once you realize some of the lenses cost more than the camera... that is where it gets expensive...
Unfortunately, I realized that after I bought my cameras. I have a 7D and a T2i. But cheap lenses: canon 50 1.8, Tamron 70-300. Flash is a yongnuo 468 ii. I'm "ok" with that for now because I can always rent some L glass but I do want to upgrade in the future.
I'm a total wannabe who really should get out and practice more.
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Cool. For contests, I sit in the row right after the judges... hence, I don't need the telephoto lens, but get clearer pics with less noise.
Besides, I enjoy watching the bikini competitors a little closer than the middle or back row...
lol ivince got ron avidowned
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Unfortunately, I realized that after I bought my cameras. I have a 7D and a T2i. But cheap lenses: canon 50 1.8, Tamron 70-300. I'm "ok" with that for now because I can always rent but I do want to upgrade in the future.
I'm a total wannabe who really should get out and practice more.
sell the t2i and buy a used 70-200 f4L. Great lens for the price and its a L.
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Ron.........start posting pics and results of the bikini/figure contests. No other site has decent coverage.
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7d is a great camera even if its a couple of years old
Honestly man, I like the fps on the 7D but the IQ imo is lesser than the t2i. It's weird because they both use the same sensor. I've read this complaint on several forums too so I don't think it's just me. Supposedly it relates to the anti-alias filter. I've read that because of this L glass is a must with the 7D.
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sell the t2i and buy a used 70-200 f4L. Great lens for the price and its a L.
The 70-200 f4L IS is first on my to buy list.
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I am into photography in a big way. Have 2 X Canon 5DII, Canon 60D, Sony NEX7, Sigma DP3M with Foveon sensor. Lens from 8-15 to 500mmL.
For contests I sit in the middle or at the back with telephoto lenses.
Alright big dog.
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Once you choose, hard to switch. I chose Canon. I have a 7D, and a 40D as a backup or secondary camera for now. Maybe one more next year. BUT - you need lenses. I have a Canon 17-55 2.8 IS Lens, and a Canon 70-200 2.8 IS Lens, as well as my favorite candid one, a Canon 28-135 simple Lens. Also, a Canon 1.4 50mm Lens. And then a Speedlite 580X... and then... well ...
Once you realize some of the lenses cost more than the camera... that is where it gets expensive...
Well.. will be using the camera again this Saturday in Culver City at the NPC Iron Games...
nice lenses there. ;)
take a shitty lens on a great camera (like a 5Dmark2) and you'll have shitty pics... put a nice lens on a shitty camera and you'll still have somewhat great pics.
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wait.... so who's the old chubby white guy and who's the skinny chubby black guy on the bodybuilding stage?
are there two vinces?
i'm confused.
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nice lenses there. ;)
take a shitty lens on a great camera (like a 5Dmark2) and you'll have shitty pics... put a nice lens on a shitty camera and you'll still have somewhat great pics.
There are a few exceptions(e.g. 50mm 1.8, 55-250 for outdoors) but yes that is certainly true.
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ban the freedom hater vince basile
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There are a few exceptions(e.g. 50mm 1.8, 55-250 for outdoors) but yes that is certainly true.
always liked the 50
http://www.adorama.com/alc/0012817/article/50mm-lens-shoot-out-f18-or-f14
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Please post the best shot you've taken this year
This is my best photo displayed this year. Edited in Lightroom 5.
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I took probably the best photos of the competitors at the 80 Olympia. I sat in the middle of the Opera House at the row where we were at the level of their posing trunks. This view shows the physiques without the shooting up distortion. I got two covers that year.
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This is my best photo displayed this year. Edited in Lightroom 5.
Nice photo. HDR?
I also use lightroom.
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This is my best photo displayed this year. Edited in Lightroom 5.
no, your best body building photo. Even a shitty photo from iPhone can look good after lightroom. Just checked the photo and you've blurred the details and it looks very plasticy and tacky.
You do go to bodybuilding shows, right?
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There are a few exceptions(e.g. 50mm 1.8, 55-250 for outdoors) but yes that is certainly true.
lol the 50mm 1.8 looks and feels like a toy and for the price you dont expect much but it is a great lens i even had it on my 5d2 that cost 25 times the lens
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I took probably the best photos of the competitors at the 80 Olympia.
Those are cool shots. Just wondering if you've done anything related to bodybuilding in the last 25 years.
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no, your best body building photo. Even a shitty photo from iPhone can look good after lightroom. Just checked the photo and you've blurred the details and it looks very plasticy and tacky.
You do go to bodybuilding shows, right?
No, I seldom go to bodybuilding contests. So I can't take photos there. Won't pay to see these shows. Would rather shoot landscapes.
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I take photos of bodybuilders now and then. Here is Jay this year.
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I take photos of bodybuilders now and then. Here is Jay this year.
Were you turned on after taking this picture?
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To Ron. The judges always sit up close which isn't the best place to judge physiques or figures. The contest photos used to be shot from that angle and it made everyone look narrow. Eventually the photographers went further back to get a better perspective.
Photo of Roelly this year.
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Were you turned on after taking this picture?
Your comment doesn't deserve a reply. Jay was signing photos and I barged to the front of the line and said hello. He remembered me from 2001 when he was in Sydney with Dexter.
I asked about his biceps so he posed one for me. No homo!
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(http://i40.tinypic.com/2re02zn.jpg)
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No, I seldom go to bodybuilding contests. So I can't take photos there. Won't pay to see these shows. Would rather shoot landscapes.
That's a pretty nice landscape shot, but overly processed. Here's a crop of your photo - looks very unnatural and plasticy. It's easy to go overboard with lightroom / photoshop for that 'clean' look. I feel the photo could've been much better. Some criticism for you if you want to hear some.
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Your comment doesn't deserve a reply. Jay was signing photos and I barged to the front of the line and said hello. He remembered me from 2001 when he was in Sydney with Dexter.
I asked about his biceps so he posed one for me. No homo!
So if my comment didn't deserve a reply, then why did you type out a reply? :-\ :-\
Youre not the sharpest tool in the shed, huh? :-\ :-\
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Some of the lads here are unbelievably dense.
By the way, Ron posted that he has been to heaps of contests in the last several years yet he still hasn't been inspired to bodybuild.
When I see guys up on stage posing or looking huge in public it makes me want to get bigger and leaner. That is what having the vocabulary is about.
You know all the gym lingo, theories, methods, identities, history, etc. In the old days we could identify the champs by seeing a bodypart. We read
the magazines from cover to cover. Thank goodness they weren't filled with all those supplement ads.
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By the way, Ron posted that he has been to heaps of contests in the last several years yet he still hasn't been inspired to bodybuild.
Are you planning to start lifting weights again at some point?
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Ron.........start posting pics and results of the bikini/figure contests. No other site has decent coverage.
I think this is a great idea.
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To Ron. The judges always sit up close which isn't the best place to judge physiques or figures. The contest photos used to be shot from that angle and it made everyone look narrow. Eventually the photographers went further back to get a better perspective.
Photo of Roelly this year.
whats up with the scar on his arms or what it is
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Coach, those stars mean nothing to me. The principle means something and therefore I conclude that Ron can't give me Blue Stars because Getbig doesn't condone critics of the IFBB.
Where are Booty's Blue Stars? She has competed and won titles.
Thank you Vince however Krank deserves blue stars more than many members who currently have them. Krank is a natural pro bodybuilder so if anybody should have them, it's him.
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Hey ass wipe, for the record, I'm friends with Krank in REAL LIFE. He's a wealthy successful doctor, who makes one hell of a living helping people on a daily basis as well as giving away a lot of free care to people in hard financial situations.
He also is one of the few fellas here to win a pro card through any organization and he still trains his tits off to this day.
So for the record, he is real, and he is as legit as they come, but you won't hear him boast about these things or ask for praises. Now....who the fuck are you again and what have you ever done with your life you bitter old bastard?
Wealthy succesful doctor? Couple of questions:
1. If so, can you explane how it is possible that this "doctor" acts like 13 years old brat, using exactly the grammar typical of that age grop, using childis frases and the language which proves that he is from the low social class?
2. what is the function of this succesful doctor in this forum of insane teenagers, stupid wankers and homos. His life isn't bad enough, so he comes here to get some crap in his faces? He has so tiny little soul that he need to be internet bully in some shitty forum? Succesfull indeed.
3. If we look at the statistic of this idiot, what we see? This fucking ape spend most of his time in here, sleeps 6 hours at night and return. If this is behavior of the succesful doctor, I understand why your health care is as crap as it is.
At the end, I bet my life savings against the wet box of matches that you and him are both just mentally ill childs, who only function in life is blasting your crap in this forum. You guys can't comprehend how pathetic your lies are, because anyone who has even some kind of brains sees trough you with no trouble at all. In fact, you have proven that you are the scum in the bottom of the gene pool, lifeless little wankers who only joy in life is this forum. ;D
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Karen, you competed and won trophies. You deserve them according to the rules here. So do I but there you are.
This isn't a big deal. We fought for years to get Goodrum his blue stars and now he forgets about all of that.
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Karen, you competed and won trophies. You deserve them according to the rules here. So do I but there you are.
This isn't a big deal. We fought for years to get Goodrum his blue stars and now he forgets about all of that.
I don't need them Vince. It's good enough for me to know I have competed.
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I just wonder what have OMR and RA done in bodybuilding? Have they paid their dues? Blue stars? What you!
wow
talk about shitting where you sleep
pretty pathetic
Ron & OMR are cool dudes
not sure about you vince
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so who's the black guy bodybuilder Vince?
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"Never in my life. First time for everything... that's why we live in this world" - Ronnie Dean Coleman, Iron Warrior and Philosopher
Then he proceeded to squat 800 Ibs
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Hi Vince, this is my real name. Let me know when you want to get rid of your gym before I open one up next door.
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Wow, a new thread from Vince "floatsam of peace" Basile whining to get some blue stars. ::)
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Basile = bad grandpa.
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wow is this the week for people to go nuts here?
Vince your an idiot. Rons been nothing but a good and fair dude since day 1...and you start a thread shitting on his name???
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Vince has a right to ask the question.
What have I done in bodybuilding?
Hmm.. well.. I am NOT a bodybuilder, never have been... but I respect it, so technically, I have done nothing in 'bodybuilding' as a competitor.
But .... as a writer, photographer, interviewer, industry and supplement expert - I may have earned it just a little.
So Vince, when you have gone to about 15 Mr. Olympia's, 14 Arnold Classics, and close to 250 other NPC/IFBB contests so far, then lets talk a little more... As for magazines, so far so good, my pictures have been in about 40-50 different ones, and countless pictures all over (quite a few of them without credit to me, but I am used to that).
^^^
THIS
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I will refrain from insulting basile knowing he's so old and can perish any minute now...
Don't need that on my conscience.
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Hi Vince, this is my real name. Let me know when you want to get rid of your gym before I open one up next door.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=504885.0;attach=541135;image)
Wow...you can sense the awkwardness in the air.
Basile is a certified weirdo!
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Wealthy succesful doctor? Couple of questions:
1. If so, can you explane how it is possible that this "doctor" acts like 13 years old brat, using exactly the grammar typical of that age grop, using childis frases and the language which proves that he is from the low social class? I can explane [sic] it to you this way. The frases [sic] I use are what I chose to use. Something you may not understand is that you do not use technical and overblown terms and vocabulary when speaking to patients. They don't care about the Loop of Henley or the Islets of Langerhans. They want to know if you can get them better. So, on here, I blend in and just speak in the manner in which I choose.
2. what is the function of this succesful doctor in this forum of insane teenagers, stupid wankers and homos. His life isn't bad enough, so he comes here to get some crap in his faces? He has so tiny little soul that he need to be internet bully in some shitty forum? Succesfull indeed. So, which are you? The insane teenager? Stupid wanker? Homo? Combination of them? Oh, and I really don't have a soul. Thought I would let you know.
3. If we look at the statistic of this idiot, what we see? This fucking ape spend most of his time in here, sleeps 6 hours at night and return. If this is behavior of the succesful doctor, I understand why your health care is as crap as it is. Yes, I do actually only sleep for about 6 hrs. Please show me how you broke my statistics down. I have been a member for over 8yrs. When breaking my stats down I spend MAYBE 30 mins online. If you must know, I enjoy have a cup of coffee in the morning while reading things on here and posting. Its a welcome bit of down time before I start my day.
At the end, I bet my life savings against the wet box of matches that you and him are both just mentally ill childs, who only function in life is blasting your crap in this forum. You guys can't comprehend how pathetic your lies are, because anyone who has even some kind of brains sees trough you with no trouble at all. In fact, you have proven that you are the scum in the bottom of the gene pool, lifeless little wankers who only joy in life is this forum. ;D Good thing we aren't betting your life savings. I may be able to buy a jug of protein if we came out winners. I am glad you can see trough [sic] me and everyone else. Funny thing about people like you who make these statements. You sum up everyone on the board. You fail to realize you are including yourself in the mix. Oh wait, let me guess. You are NOT including yourself in the there because you are the outsider and simply an observer.
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I will refrain from insulting basile knowing he's so old and can perish any minute now...
Don't need that on my conscience.
Wow...HA HA. Legitimate laughing at this one.
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Some of the lads here are unbelievably dense.
By the way, Ron posted that he has been to heaps of contests in the last several years yet he still hasn't been inspired to bodybuild.
When I see guys up on stage posing or looking huge in public it makes me want to get bigger and leaner. That is what having the vocabulary is about.
You know all the gym lingo, theories, methods, identities, history, etc. In the old days we could identify the champs by seeing a bodypart. We read
the magazines from cover to cover. Thank goodness they weren't filled with all those supplement ads.
Are you feeling strange, Vince?
Are you aware that you are presenting straight up confrontational obnoxiousness?
I've never seen you be a straight up dick (I don't know how you got banned from ironage) and I'm not clear on exactly what you motives are, here.
Are you truly taking pot shots at a guy who works in bodybuilding, contributes articles (particularly earlier on) and photos and has provided a board where people can be whatever they want to be for 15 years without cashing in AND is Jewish?
And why? because he put a kid in timeout who is so into trolling, he actually pretended to be dead a few months back? A few board members have died during the years and I don't remember you thinking that was particularly funny.
I don't understand - and I assure you, Vince, I'm many things, but I'm a long long way away from dense. I read varying levels of veracity in what you're posting to the point where it sounds moderately unhinged. Sometimes you're apparently joking, sometimes you're just straight up judging people, based on transposition of your achievements and if they've matched them. It's very odd and extremely unreadable and I have to commend Ron on being a good dude and not just removing you from the board for being a tosser.
So what if Ron doesn't want to lift weights? - that's his prerogative. Exactly what tangible things do you have to show for your time in bodybuilding? Fuck all. Mostly just chips on your shoulders, by the sounds of it. Maybe a few happy memories. Perhaps (err more like fucking obviously) Ron is able to create happy memories and enjoy his life without spending his time in the gym. What right do you have to judge him by your own view? Ron's contributions to bodybuilding on the internet are actually sizeable.
There are multitudes of people on this board - who, despite you not knowing - are employed for their cranial capacity. Yes, they present something of a front, but when it comes to the punch - they're all sitting here, as mystified as I am at why you would suddenly lunge at the friendly fellow who facilitates this fun little circus we've got.
It's just odd.
And just to be clear, I never supported the shizzo removal, but I'll light the first torch of the angry mob if you're seriously turning on our facilitator :)
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basille is a clown
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I know alot of people say Primemuscle is creepy but VinceB makes my skin crawl. :-\
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What you, Johnny Falcon? I would destroy you in anything intellectual. Plus I could remove your ribs with my bare hands. Show some respect.
LOL, you're dumb as a bag of rocks.
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I wonder if Vince has any friends..
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What you, Johnny Falcon? I would destroy you in anything intellectual. Plus I could remove your ribs with my bare hands. Show some respect.
you want respect?? yet you start a thread bashing the site creator and a mod
get a grip
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I was worried that getbig would get boring after shizzo thanks for the entertainment vince.
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For contests I sit in the middle or at the back with telephoto lenses.
I bet you do you silly fagget LOLOLOLOLOL
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Wealthy succesful doctor? Couple of questions:
1. If so, can you explane how it is possible that this "doctor" acts like 13 years old brat, using exactly the grammar typical of that age grop, using childis frases and the language which proves that he is from the low social class?
2. what is the function of this succesful doctor in this forum of insane teenagers, stupid wankers and homos. His life isn't bad enough, so he comes here to get some crap in his faces? He has so tiny little soul that he need to be internet bully in some shitty forum? Succesfull indeed.
3. If we look at the statistic of this idiot, what we see? This fucking ape spend most of his time in here, sleeps 6 hours at night and return. If this is behavior of the succesful doctor, I understand why your health care is as crap as it is.
At the end, I bet my life savings against the wet box of matches that you and him are both just mentally ill childs, who only function in life is blasting your crap in this forum. You guys can't comprehend how pathetic your lies are, because anyone who has even some kind of brains sees trough you with no trouble at all. In fact, you have proven that you are the scum in the bottom of the gene pool, lifeless little wankers who only joy in life is this forum. ;D
I think you must be referring to someone else "Ropoo." I'm talking about Krankenstein. You seem angry my friend. Who hurt you?
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Vince says a bb needs no more than 20 grams of protein to grow. He bases this on
"science" and "textbooks" yet when asked for specific references he refuses.
He just calls everone disagreeing "dense".
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Hi Vince, this is my real name. Let me know when you want to get rid of your gym before I open one up next door.
LMAO ;D
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Vince says a bb needs no more than 20 grams of protein to grow. He bases this on
"science" and "textbooks" yet when asked for specific references he refuses.
He just calls everone disagreeing "dense".
lol remember that. Even then he refuse to admit he lied.
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Krankenstein is a great poster.
Even if he was a shitty poster nowadays, he is immortalized by his contributions to this legendary thread:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=248977.0
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Krankenstein is a great poster.
Even if he was a shitty poster nowadays, he is immortalized by his contributions to this legendary thread:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=248977.0
Forgot how hilarious that was:
After dinner, i'm planning on putting on the 1993 Mr. Olympia and re-enacting some of the posing routines in the living room and have every score me using magna doodles.
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It would be tough to get 20 grams of protein per day, the average dude gets way more than that eating 3 meals per day, i guess i would have to cut out meat and eggs, this does not make sense.
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For contests I sit in the back with telephoto lenses and my pants dropped to my ankles
Fixed :D
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Drunk Basile is pretty funny...
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::)
Let see...all we have is your word, and you seem to be liar. Do your math, you fucking imbecile. You can write your crap until your fingers hurts, but you can't prove even one word, so why don't you go and suck Chiros cock, if he got one.
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Let see...all we have is your word, and you seem to be liar. Do your math, you fucking imbecile. You can write your crap until your fingers hurts, but you can't prove even one word, so why don't you go and suck Chiros cock, if he got one.
i dont tvink he gi es a shit if you belive him or not
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Let see...all we have is your word, and you seem to be liar. Do your math, you fucking imbecile. You can write your crap until your fingers hurts, but you can't prove even one word, so why don't you go and suck Chiros cock, if he got one.
Ropo, you sound like one tough customer. Should I be afraid?
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If Krank is indeed an M.D., props to him. What is his specialty?
On the other hand, if he's a chiropractor or some other type of pseudo-doctor, he may be rich but he's not a doctor.
Lol at MDs all of a sudden being the be all end all in terms of health care. LOLOLOLOLOLOLL
Cholo you are not a doctor of any kind so your opinion matters very little. Go read another anti chiropractic blog and get mad bro LOL
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It would be tough to get 20 grams of protein per day, the average dude gets way more than that eating 3 meals per day, i guess i would have to cut out meat and eggs, this does not make sense.
If I remember correctly, Basile also said you need to eat a ton of food to grow. I'm pretty sure he said this but not positive. You then have to wonder what kind of diet he thinks is optimal, foods with only trace amounts of protein? ::)
Fact of the matter is that there's no modern textbook that advocates such a low protein intake. And I bet no old textbook either... 20 grams, that's ridiculous.
It's not that bodybuilders are dense, like Vince claims. Yes they are often dense but that's not why no one listens to him, he has no support for his claims from ANYONE, no nutritionist, no doctor, no one. Maybe he could dig up some fruitarian freak who would agree with him, I don't know.
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I am actually Dr. Chim Richalds....
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Wealthy succesful doctor? Couple of questions:
1. If so, can you explane how it is possible that this "doctor" acts like 13 years old brat, using exactly the grammar typical of that age grop, using childis frases and the language which proves that he is from the low social class?
2. what is the function of this succesful doctor in this forum of insane teenagers, stupid wankers and homos. His life isn't bad enough, so he comes here to get some crap in his faces? He has so tiny little soul that he need to be internet bully in some shitty forum? Succesfull indeed.
3. If we look at the statistic of this idiot, what we see? This fucking ape spend most of his time in here, sleeps 6 hours at night and return. If this is behavior of the succesful doctor, I understand why your health care is as crap as it is.
At the end, I bet my life savings against the wet box of matches that you and him are both just mentally ill childs, who only function in life is blasting your crap in this forum. You guys can't comprehend how pathetic your lies are, because anyone who has even some kind of brains sees trough you with no trouble at all. In fact, you have proven that you are the scum in the bottom of the gene pool, lifeless little wankers who only joy in life is this forum. ;D
Krank was known for being childish since his mayhem days. Some things never change...
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LOL, you're dumb as a bag of rocks.
your einsulting the rocks there
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I always said Basile and Goodrum were very alike. Both are intelligent in a way. But there's
something missing, they somehow lose touch with reality. Basile is good at engineering and building equipment but he can't see the big picture when it comes to bodybuilding. How can he
believe there's some training program that can make a person grow as as if he were on steroids? ???
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Goodrum impresses me, he is a resilient guy and occasionally entertains with his postings.
Basile is just senile and mean/rude to everyone and contributes nothing.
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Sadly, Falcon cannot either. :-\
But Falcon makes up for it with humor...
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I am actually Dr. Chim Richalds....
:)
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I never said that MDs were. However, they do have a certain level of credibility that others, e.g., chiropractors, do not have, based on their education, credentialling (sp?), etc.
I actually am a "doctor" of sorts based on one of my degrees but you're right, I'm not an MD.
Ummm....right....and DCs have a certain level of credibility that MDs do not. And DDS has a different level of credibility that MDs do not.
You clearly have no clue what you are discussing bro.
This is like talking to a child intellectually.
***my posts are not bashing any of the fine doctors on this board (usmcdevdoc, drkaje, etc) Just making a point that the broad spectrum of healthcare has many legitimate positions and for good reason. We all have a different set of skills and scope of practice.***
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Ummm....right....and DCs have a certain level of credibility that MDs do not. And DDS has a different level of credibility that MDs do not.
You clearly have no clue what you are discussing bro.
This is like talking to a child intellectually.
***my posts are not bashing any of the fine doctors on this board (usmcdevdoc, drkaje, etc) Just making a point that the broad spectrum of healthcare has many legitimate positions and for good reason. We all have a different set of skills and scope of practice.***
What about doctors of homeopathy? :D
Anyone here believe in homeopathy?
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What about doctors of homeopathy? :D
Anyone here believe in homeopathy?
I know too little about them to share a valid opinion bro.
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I know too little about them to share a valid opinion bro.
Ask OMR - he knows all about homopathy.
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:D ;D
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another wonderful thread where grown men get to preem pout and ponce with more faux outrage than dysentry drama queens
why do you post here
i dont get it
all you do is whine about how childish everyone is
by stamping your feet like an angry toddler
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why do you post here
i dont get it
all you do is whine about how childish everyone is
by stamping your feet like an angry toddler
Sounds like BBC needs to up his daily Mydol dose.
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Sounds like BBC needs to up his daily Mydol dose.
he seems to think he is some sort of intellectual drowning in a pool of fools
i hate to be the one to point this out
but this pool of fools has a log out option
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why do you post here
i dont get it
all you do is whine about how childish everyone is
by stamping your feet like an angry toddler
you know how it is your self
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If I remember correctly, Basile also said you need to eat a ton of food to grow. I'm pretty sure he said this but not positive. You then have to wonder what kind of diet he thinks is optimal, foods with only trace amounts of protein? ::)
Fact of the matter is that there's no modern textbook that advocates such a low protein intake. And I bet no old textbook either... 20 grams, that's ridiculous.
It's not that bodybuilders are dense, like Vince claims. Yes they are often dense but that's not why no one listens to him, he has no support for his claims from ANYONE, no nutritionist, no doctor, no one. Maybe he could dig up some fruitarian freak who would agree with him, I don't know.
No, you don't remember correctly. What bodybuilders believe resembles religion. Even a Messiah can't help them!
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No, you don't remember correctly. What bodybuilders believe resembles religion. Even a Messiah can't help them!
Goodrum has blue stars.
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Gotta laugh at the ass kissing hypocrites here. What do we call blokes who attend contests but don't train?
What you!
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Gotta laugh at the ass kissing hypocrites here. What do we call blokes who attend contests but don't train?
What you!
Shome's like you all you do is train on chasing Goodrum around.
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Mr Nobody has 35000+ posts on Getbig. That says it all. What you!
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Vince sorry but you look like an old man who doesn't train or eat properly. If you're here trying to convince you're some kind of training guru or nutritional expert, feel free to do so but keep in mind that those statements have only comedy value.
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vince basil,
ylls
hth
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Vince sorry but you look like an old man who doesn't train or eat properly. If you're here trying to convince you're some kind of training guru or nutritional expert, feel free to do so but keep in mind that those statements have only comedy value.
Does this work: Ron sorry but you look like an old man who doesn't train or eat properly. If you're here trying to convince you're some kind of training guru or nutritional expert, feel free to do so but keep in mind that those statements have only comedy value.
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"What you" is a stupid phrase
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I am actually Dr. Chim Richalds....
Are u in the Houston area?
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"What you" is a stupid phrase
Yeah, I heard it first at a bodybuilding contest in Sydney. The guy was doing handstands to show the people that bodybuilders weren't muscle bound. Every time he appeared in the novices people yelled out "Handstand Jehovo" and he did one much to the amusement of everyone there. One day I saw him in Sydney and chatted to him. The hapless bloke never won a contest but told me, "What you?" It took him a few years to clue on that people were laughing at him. So I guess he was resentful of people. Nowadays I use that expression in amusement. What have you done? Who are you? What have you won? What have you achieved? Etc. Funny expression.
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Yeah, I heard it first at a bodybuilding contest in Sydney. The guy was doing handstands to show the people that bodybuilders weren't muscle bound. Every time he appeared in the novices people yelled out "Handstand Jehovo" and he did one much to the amusement of everyone there. One day I saw him in Sydney and chatted to him. The hapless bloke never won a contest but told me, "What you?" It took him a few years to clue on that people were laughing at him. So I guess he was resentful of people. Nowadays I use that expression in amusement. What have you done? Who are you? What have you won? What have you achieved? Etc. Funny expression.
your posting style is the same as prime muscle
old boring to death man
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Funny expression.
Not really.
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It's a strange expression. It's like words are missing
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Yes that was easily the most boring story on getbig so far today.
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Yes that was easily the most boring story on getbig so far today.
cant be sure until we checked primemuscles recent posts
stories about how it's funny he is bald and out of shape because his wife this and that
or that he had his prostate removed
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It's a strange expression. It's like words are missing
Yes, the speaker was from the old Yugoslavia. Serious bloke for sure. Never won a trophy but kept competing. The Aussies cheers guys like Jehovo. So he would have been encouraged to keep entering.
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Yes, the speaker was from the old Yugoslavia. Serious bloke for sure. Never won a trophy but kept competing. The Aussies cheers guys like Jehovo. So he would have been encouraged to keep entering.
Well as long as he was happy.
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Does this work: Ron sorry but you look like an old man who doesn't train or eat properly. If you're here trying to convince you're some kind of training guru or nutritional expert, feel free to do so but keep in mind that those statements have only comedy value.
When did Ron offer training or nutrition advice? Exactly, never.
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He used to dress up in a white pirate shirt and red sash and speak on a soapbox in Hyde Park, in Sydney. Not sure what he talked about because I never heard him. I saw him one day and he invited me to his "studio". So up we went to a house in Surrey Hills. He lived in the attic. So he put some magazines on his table and arranged them. Arnold was his favourite. Then he would copy each pose in the small mirror he had there. He told me, "Looking, looking!" He was off season so I merely smiled to myself. The ceiling was low so I asked how he did presses and he said he used a chair or knelt on the floor. This guy was fair dinkum but would never win anything. Oh, he always competed with a beard and his hair braided but tidy not like Kai. They don't make them like Jehovo any more. What you, Jehovo!
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When did Ron offer training or nutrition advice? Exactly, never.
That is why it is funny. Get it? What you??
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Um I am going back to sleep reading this thread.
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That is why it is funny.
But you did you fat old fart - now THAT is funny.
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Are u in the Houston area?
No...Chicago.
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Krank was known for being childish since his mayhem days. Some things never change...
Sure I was....My name over there was?
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About time Ron joined in. Well, Ron, to pay your dues you can't do it by attending contests. Nice try.
yeah ron, do it vince style instead, send the wife to be a drug mule
haha
vince, why are you pressing your knuckles against the arms on avatar pic?a mom arm will be a mom arm
hth :)
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Cool. For contests, I sit in the row right after the judges... hence, I don't need the telephoto lens, but get clearer pics with less noise.
Besides, I enjoy watching the bikini competitors a little closer than the middle or back row...
vince enjoys the company backstage-lockerroom-shower with the male physique combattants ;D ;D
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Ron.........start posting pics and results of the bikini/figure contests. No other site has decent coverage.
can go to any strip club and take pics from the dancing whoresartists,same clothing, same physiques,hell, even some of the very same girls ;D
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He used to dress up in a white pirate shirt and red sash and speak on a soapbox in Hyde Park, in Sydney. Not sure what he talked about because I never heard him. I saw him one day and he invited me to his "studio". So up we went to a house in Surrey Hills. He lived in the attic. So he put some magazines on his table and arranged them. Arnold was his favourite. Then he would copy each pose in the small mirror he had there. He told me, "Looking, looking!" He was off season so I merely smiled to myself. The ceiling was low so I asked how he did presses and he said he used a chair or knelt on the floor. This guy was fair dinkum but would never win anything. Oh, he always competed with a beard and his hair braided but tidy not like Kai. They don't make them like Jehovo any more. What you, Jehovo!
Anybody else start reading this and think it was going to end in some type of Penthouse Forums male sex story?
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vince enjoys the company backstage-lockerroom-shower with the male physique combattants ;D ;D
Yes, it's generally looked at by him as the "highlight" of the festivities
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Wealthy succesful doctor? Couple of questions:
1. If so, can you explane how it is possible that this "doctor" acts like 13 years old brat, using exactly the grammar typical of that age grop, using childis frases and the language which proves that he is from the low social class?
you can take out the hooker from the hod but you cant take out the hood from the hooker
sorry kranky,couldnt resist ;D
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Vince says a bb needs no more than 20 grams of protein to grow. He bases this on
"science" and "textbooks" yet when asked for specific references he refuses.
He just calls everone disagreeing "dense".
on top of that he requests nutrionist degrees from ppl hes arguing with lol
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Can't we organize an "e-retire poll" for Mr blue(s) words?
1th vote!
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I never said that MDs were. However, they do have a certain level of credibility that others, e.g., chiropractors, do not have, based on their education, credentialling (sp?), etc.
I actually am a "doctor" of sorts based on one of my degrees but you're right, I'm not an MD.
are chiropractics the equivalent to the homoepaty thing?
;D
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LOL!!! You're the guy who injects himself with a compound that was designed to be administered to horses, which was brewed up in someone's bathtub or kitchen, and contains God knows what, and I am the intellectually challenged one? That's hilarious.
You being a chiropractor comes as no surprise to me. :D
Do me a favor stud. Don't disrespect me on the board and then PM me for gear advice. You're on your own pal. Good luck with your fitness goals and no hard feelings...but don't ask for my help any more.
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Do me a favor stud. Don't disrespect me on the board and then PM me for gear advice. You're on your own pal. Good luck and no hard feelings.
Wasn't too difficult to see this revelation coming...I always knew "Cholo4Life" was a complete fraud. They tend to show their colors very quickly around here.
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are chiropractics the equivalent to the homoepaty thing?
;D
Not even close brother!
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Wasn't too difficult to see this revelation coming...I always knew "Cholo4Life" was a complete fraud. They tend to show their colors very quickly around here.
Mehh, there's always one of these guys.
I take time outta my day because he comes to me with PM questions. I know this site is just a place to fuck around but if someone asks for my help I'm gonna help a fellow bro out, even though he's been disrespectful to me in the past. I'm not petty about shit, but I'm not gonna keep helping the guy and answering questions. I don't understand guys like him. Oh we'll 8)
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Not even close brother!
;D
i knew ;D ;D
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Mehh, there's always one of these guys.
I take time outta my day because he comes to me with PM questions. I know this site is just a place to fuck around but if someone asks for my help I'm gonna help a fellow bro out, even though he's been disrespectful to me in the past. I'm not petty about shit, but I'm not gonna keep helping the guy and answering questions. I don't understand guys like him. Oh we'll 8)
I get pms too from people who are a little mean to me here and then in pm say I have a sexy evil mouth. ;)
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Chiro Flex-o-tron fears no man or beast.
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I get pms too from people who are a little mean to me here and then in pm say I have a sexy evil mouth. ;)
Yes people send me sexy PMs all the time as well, you understand what I'm going through sister.
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Yes people send me sexy PMs all the time as well, you understand what I'm going through sister.
My feelings are a little hurt though. :D
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according to most scientists the "philosophy of science" is a load of bunk
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are chiropractics the equivalent to the homoepaty thing?
;D
Homeopathy not.....homeopaty, but it does sound funny when you pronounce it.
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Basile,
Tell us you didn't really use your woman as a drug mule.
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I always said Basile and Goodrum were very alike. Both are intelligent in a way. But there's
something missing, they somehow lose touch with reality. Basile is good at engineering and building equipment but he can't see the big picture when it comes to bodybuilding. How can he
believe there's some training program that can make a person grow as as if he were on steroids? ???
Nailed it. Perhaps Asperger's?
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I get pms too from people who are a little mean to me here and then in pm say I have a sexy evil mouth. ;)
Attention whore at it yet again, do you ever stop?
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Anybody else start reading this and think it was going to end in some type of Penthouse Forums male sex story?
HA HA...guilty
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Yes people send me sexy PMs all the time as well, you understand what I'm going through sister.
Yeah fucker....last one I sent you didn't respond to.
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HA HA...guilty
I was reading it expecting the story to end in a bathroom stall at the airport.
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Attention whore at it yet again, do you ever stop?
Put the bottle down.
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I get pms too from people who are a little mean to me here and then in pm say I have a sexy evil mouth. ;)
Put your reading glasses on Grandma, I said I wanted to have "evil sexy time" in your mouth.
;D
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Put the bottle down.
::)
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Put your reading glasses on Grandma, I said I wanted to have "evil sexy time" in your mouth.
;D
HAHA ;D Nice turn around Hockey.
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Wasn't too difficult to see this revelation coming...I always knew "Cholo4Life" was a complete fraud. They tend to show their colors very quickly around here.
cholo is ok,trained with a legit pro back in the day.
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cholo is ok,trained with a legit pro back in the day.
Craig Titus
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cholo is ok,trained with a legit pro back in the day.
And he's asking Chiro about peptides ?
To me...being all...."hey bro..what do you think about blah...blah...blah....Th anks man."....and then talking shit about the guy is not the coolest thing you can do. Nothing unforgivable but still.
Especially Chiro...he can sling shit but he is not a mean person at all...he's a nice guy at heart, it's obvious.
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And he's asking Chiro about peptides ?
To me...being all...."hey bro..what do you think about blah...blah...blah....Th anks man."....and then talking shit about the guy is not the coolest thing you can do. Nothing unforgivable but still.
Especially Chiro...he can sling shit but he is not a mean person at all...he's a nice guy at heart, it's obvious.
vince is a great kid.pm's is between them and not my thing to pick sides over it.
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And he's asking Chiro about peptides ?
To me...being all...."hey bro..what do you think about blah...blah...blah....Th anks man."....and then talking shit about the guy is not the coolest thing you can do. Nothing unforgivable but still.
Especially Chiro...he can sling shit but he is not a mean person at all...he's a nice guy at heart, it's obvious.
I agree. Not cool at all. It's two faced
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Basile, can you stop using the word Flotsam? It makes me want to kill you, thanks in advance...
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U weren't saying I was two faced when I took down those naked pics of your nasty old ass as soon as u asked me to.
Again thank you for taking my nasty ass down.
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Goodrum has blue stars.
I lol'd. :D
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YOU ARE A FILTHY LIAR!
I never PMd you for "gear" advice. I PMd u about peptides freely and legally available on research chem websites because after a very, very long layoff from bodybuilding I had never heard of these compounds as they were not popular, as far as I know, when I was active in the sport. You responded w/ some BS protocol that I didn't even understand and I thanked you. That was the end of it. I will post the PMs if anyone doesn't believe me. Feel free to post any PMs where I asked u for advice about gear.
I have trained with, and am still friends with people who competed in the IFBB at the highest levels. I have access to significant resources. The last person I would ask for advice on AAS is some asshole, bullshit artist on the Internet.
FUCK YOU.
Settle down guy. I'm really not sure what you are so angry about ??? Go back and re read the thread. YOU are the one who started with the low blows for no apparent reason.
Gear....peptides.....wha t's the fucking difference bro? All I remember is taking 15-20 minutes outta my day to help you with something. For no reason other than to be a decent person and help a guy with questions WHO PM'd ME.
I gave you the protocol my buddy used when he placed 4th in heavies at Nationals.....BS protocol? Its not rocket science LOL. OMG....remind me to never help anonymous strangers who reach out for advice again ::)
It's clear to everyone this is a dirt bag move. All I'm saying is don't PM me again like we're cool on here and then proceed to be disrespectful for no apparent reason. If I did something to truly offend you, PM me and I'll apologize; I'm not too arrogant to own up to something I did. Otherwise, see you around pal. :)
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And he's asking Chiro about peptides ?
To me...being all...."hey bro..what do you think about blah...blah...blah....Th anks man."....and then talking shit about the guy is not the coolest thing you can do. Nothing unforgivable but still.
Especially Chiro...he can sling shit but he is not a mean person at all...he's a nice guy at heart, it's obvious.
Is this not such strange behavior? I mean there's guys on the board I don't particularly like, but you don't see me PMing them for help on various topics. Sheesh. Try to help a guy and do something nice and this is what you get: a "FUCK YOU!". ???
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Churro Fag getting all upset about back crackers again ???
Who'd have predicted that?
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Churro Fag getting all upset about back crackers again ???
Who'd have predicted that?
Nah Cankles, dude PMed me for help and then proceeds to meltdown on me here and tell me to fuck myself. Haven't witnessed such outlandish behavior since our last duel on the Y.
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Nah Cankles, dude PMed me for help and then proceeds to meltdown on me here and tell me to fuck myself. Haven't witnessed such outlandish behavior since our last duel on the Y.
It wasn't really a duel, we were wearing condoms and everyone knows it doesn't count unless there is skin/skin contact. ::)
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It wasn't really a duel, we were wearing condoms and everyone knows it doesn't count unless there is skin/skin contact. ::)
LOL
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Maybe dock elsewhere.
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It wasn't really a duel, we were wearing condoms and everyone knows it doesn't count unless there is skin/skin contact. ::)
is this going to turn into a go4it thread now with this turn of events? :D
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Maybe dock elsewhere.
You have room for two? It's not gay in a three way. :)
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Chiro Flex-o-tron fears no man or beast.
if it can bleed, chiro will 1on1 it
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You have room for two? It's not gay in a three way. :)
I am not getting lured into a three way. You are on your own :D
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Attention whore at it yet again, do you ever stop?
shes at best age to get as many "miles and gallons"(of cock and semen) in as possible before its too late(dry)
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You have room for two? It's not gay in a three way. :)
here's you ,giorgio and what's with the midget.
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it breaks my enlarged heart to see chiro and cholo not getting along, i platonicaly love them both :-[
both, just like me, great natural specimen and hard trainers :D
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it breaks my enlarged heart to see chiro and cholo not getting along, i platonicaly love them both :-[
both, just like me, great natural specimen and hard trainers :D
this...the natural part.
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Yes, I am a Natura💉 Ath💉ete.
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shes at best age to get as many "miles and gallons"(of cock and semen) in as possible before its too late(dry)
My grandmother had her last baby at 52. Going by the women in my family I have quite a few years left before my eggs dry up. So no need to take any cock thrown my way.
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Cholo is a smart dude... probably one of the smartest dudes here. Good thinking skills on a wide variety of subjects from what I've seen. Too smart for a cholo tho.
Chiro is a young up and comer... lots of potential. Good kid. But he currently has sensitive nipples from them horse pills.
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My grandmother had her last baby at 52. Going by the women in my family I have quite a few years left before my eggs dry up. So no need to take any cock thrown my way.
you know i was jsut joking,
even if vagine dries up,theres still those wetting lotions.
if all that fails, theres still the backdoor and mouth.
women reach their past fuckable date no sooner than 1 hour post death,this is when things simply get too stiff,and they cold by then.
and really, when they not play along(like yeah give it to me), the quietness is just weird.
:)
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you know i was jsut joking,
even if vagine dries up,theres still those wetting lotions.
if all that fails, theres still the backdoor and mouth.
women reach their past fuckable date no sooner than 1 hour post death,this is when things simply get too stiff,and they cold by then.
and really, when they not play along(like yeah give it to me), the quietness is just weird.
:)
You are so unique Gal.
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Cholo is a smart dude... probably one of the smartest dudes here. Good thinking skills on a wide variety of subjects from what I've seen. Too smart for a cholo tho.
Chiro is a young up and comer... lots of potential. Good kid. But he currently has sensitive nipples from them horse pills.
'sensitive nipples'lol..
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chiro gets so much shit on here haha. was he natural??ever? fuck no definitely not lol. But you don't judge a person by their choice to use supplements or not.
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I posted my theories of hypertrophy and the challenged flotsam needed to be spoon fed because they can't comprehend nor apply a theory. That is hardly my fault....
Theories needs to be formulated with the possibility of falsification in mind. Otherwise, they will remain unverifiable and unscientific, according to Karl Popper.
You have proposed a theory, but I have never seen you do any scientific research to support it, nor have I seen you refer to scientific publications in a systematic way to support it. Hence, your theory is simply an opinion.
NN
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chiro gets so much shit on here haha. was he natural??ever? fuck no definitely not lol. But you don't judge a person by their choice to use supplements or not.
Dude....you helped me start my first cycle..... ???when i was 25 yo. Yes I was 100% natty when i first began posting here. I was 170 lbs dude.
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chiro is one of the most genuine guys on here
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chiro is one of the most genuine gays on here
:o
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:o
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WHAT YOU????
PEWP
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Do you ever sleep?
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Do you ever sleep?
Not really....grad school + body building + girlfriend + working.
Why, wanna Skype ???
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Not really....grad school + body building + girlfriend + working.
Why, wanna Skype ???
DON'T BELIEVE THE SKYPE I MEAN HYPE...
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Not really....grad school + body building + girlfriend + working.
Why, wanna Skype ???
primemuscle is ringing you one handed as we speak
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Not really....grad school + body building + girlfriend + working.
Why, wanna Skype ???
Ghosts?
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Not really....grad school + body building + girlfriend + working.
Why, wanna Skype ???
:D
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Not really....grad school + body building + girlfriend + working.
Why, wanna Skype ???
Later. I'm working now! >:(
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Later. I'm working now! >:(
::) priorities
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::) priorities
Says the guy hiding in the bathroom from his wife while he posts.
::)
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Says the guy hiding in the bathroom from his wife while he posts.
::)
Reverse spousal abuse of peace ::)
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i need help :'(
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. I was 170 lbs dude.
when you diet the fat off, youll be right there again ;D ;D ;D
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I am billed at upwards of 450 lbs.
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when you diet the fat off, youll be right there again ;D ;D ;D
Hell NO!! Holding tight at 9.999% BF :-X 8)
I work way too hard to look like A skinny fat Cswol (PIP).
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Dude....you helped me start my first cycle..... ???when i was 25 yo. Yes I was 100% natty when i first began posting here. I was 170 lbs dude.
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??? I have to be getting the pictures mixed up then you were not 170 in the pic I saw. I think you were in a red tank top, looked 210 ish
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??? I have to be getting the pictures mixed up then you were not 170 in the pic I saw. I think you were in a red tank top, looked 210 ish
I was onstage at 170. I coulda been filled up with 10lbs of watery bloat and glycogen in that pic....but I was miles away from anything heavier than that.
That's called 1 week out from my last show, 4% BF but blasting pizza and ice cream for a week straight. That pic was after a chest workout. Anybody who's been that lean before knows how insane you look for 7 days after a show when you are just crushing the junk food. All illusion bro. I was still swimming in a large tee shirt. Another week after and my cuts completely disappeared and I didn't look nearly as sick. I've never been that lean or looked more impressive since that day, even though I'm like 50lbs heavier. (Never been that lean Since therefore the size is NOT as impressive in photos.) Bodybuilding is a funny game.
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Basile, can you stop using the word Flotsam? It makes me want to kill you, thanks in advance...
It would be best if he kept silent.
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It would be best if he kept silent.
Let me see if I got this right. A dude by the name of dropping plates hides behind anonymity because of nasty pricks like himself? Yes, much smarter than me.
Van what's his name suggested that bodybuilders need more protein that I suggested. Well, it seems to me that the vast majority of muscleheads are not growing.
So any protein they need is for maintenance and that amount is far, far less than what the knuckleheads consume. What a waste of precious resources and money.
I doubt the research done today on protein requirement is worth much since those rich supplement companies might be influencing whatever is done.
This is one of the things that bodybuilders believe. Same as free weights are better than machines. What a bunch of dopes that lift weights. The stereotypes are
alive and well on Getbig.
Dropping plates in the gym is what jerks do. In the original Golds Gym and World Gym you would be booted out.
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Let me see if I got this right. A dude by the name of dropping plates hides behind anonymity because of nasty pricks like himself? Yes, much smarter than me.
Van what's his name suggested that bodybuilders need more protein that I suggested. Well, it seems to me that the vast majority of muscleheads are not growing.
So any protein they need is for maintenance and that amount is far, far less than what the knuckleheads consume. What a waste of precious resources and money.
I doubt the research done today on protein requirement is worth much since those rich supplement companies might be influencing whatever is done.
This is one of the things that bodybuilders believe. Same as free weights are better than machines. What a bunch of dopes that lift weights. The stereotypes are
alive and well on Getbig.
Dropping plates in the gym is what jerks do. In the original Golds Gym and World Gym you would be booted out.
You think the MuscleTech et al. are funding or influencing nutrition research?
Do please speak more on this, I'm intrigued.
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Research has to be clean. However, many universities are struggling for funding and often accept gifts perhaps with an understanding.
When you think about all the questions bodybuilders have about training, nutrition and drugs you would think science would have
answered them all by now. Nope, the scientists stay away from the cult of musclemen and thus little or no research has been done
that helps the gym rats. So the musclemen continue to believe the handed down stuff that lingers in hard core gyms like sweat and chalk.
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Let me see if I got this right. A dude by the name of dropping plates hides behind anonymity because of nasty pricks like himself? Yes, much smarter than me.
Van what's his name suggested that bodybuilders need more protein that I suggested. Well, it seems to me that the vast majority of muscleheads are not growing.
So any protein they need is for maintenance and that amount is far, far less than what the knuckleheads consume. What a waste of precious resources and money.
I doubt the research done today on protein requirement is worth much since those rich supplement companies might be influencing whatever is done.
This is one of the things that bodybuilders believe. Same as free weights are better than machines. What a bunch of dopes that lift weights. The stereotypes are
alive and well on Getbig.
Dropping plates in the gym is what jerks do. In the original Golds Gym and World Gym you would be booted out.
It's quite interesting and amusing to read which feelings/fantasies/theories my screen name can cause :o :D
And now you expect that I would defend myself or get a meltdown? ::)
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No, you and the rest of the Flotsam prove they absolutely need to remain anonymous so that their name doesn't get brutalized. Good sense but in the end, What YOU?
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Let me see if I got this right. A dude by the name of dropping plates hides behind anonymity because of nasty pricks like himself? Yes, much smarter than me.
Van what's his name suggested that bodybuilders need more protein that I suggested. Well, it seems to me that the vast majority of muscleheads are not growing.
So any protein they need is for maintenance and that amount is far, far less than what the knuckleheads consume. What a waste of precious resources and money.
I doubt the research done today on protein requirement is worth much since those rich supplement companies might be influencing whatever is done.
This is one of the things that bodybuilders believe. Same as free weights are better than machines. What a bunch of dopes that lift weights. The stereotypes are
alive and well on Getbig.
Dropping plates in the gym is what jerks do. In the original Golds Gym and World Gym you would be booted out.
Yes, your physique is so evident you know what you are talking about.
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Let me see if I got this right. A dude by the name of dropping plates hides behind anonymity because of nasty pricks like himself? Yes, much smarter than me.
Van what's his name suggested that bodybuilders need more protein that I suggested. Well, it seems to me that the vast majority of muscleheads are not growing.
So any protein they need is for maintenance and that amount is far, far less than what the knuckleheads consume. What a waste of precious resources and money.
I doubt the research done today on protein requirement is worth much since those rich supplement companies might be influencing whatever is done.
This is one of the things that bodybuilders believe. Same as free weights are better than machines. What a bunch of dopes that lift weights. The stereotypes are
alive and well on Getbig.
Dropping plates in the gym is what jerks do. In the original Golds Gym and World Gym you would be booted out.
The expert has spoken
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Let me see if I got this right. A dude by the name of dropping plates hides behind anonymity because of nasty pricks like himself? Yes, much smarter than me.
Van what's his name suggested that bodybuilders need more protein that I suggested. Well, it seems to me that the vast majority of muscleheads are not growing.
So any protein they need is for maintenance and that amount is far, far less than what the knuckleheads consume. What a waste of precious resources and money.
I doubt the research done today on protein requirement is worth much since those rich supplement companies might be influencing whatever is done.
This is one of the things that bodybuilders believe. Same as free weights are better than machines. What a bunch of dopes that lift weights. The stereotypes are
alive and well on Getbig.
Dropping plates in the gym is what jerks do. In the original Golds Gym and World Gym you would be booted out.
I am learning a lot about what is and what isn't an appropriate post on Getbig from your posts.
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Why do you post here, Vince? Seriously. You do nothing but bitch about how stupid everyone is. What do you enjoy about posting such negative stuff all the time?
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Why do you post here, Vince? Seriously. You do nothing but bitch about how stupid everyone is. What do you enjoy about posting such negative stuff all the time?
Vince seems like the kind of guy that likes to poke needles through his ballsack and shove his nostrils full of M&Ms while he masturbates.
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Vince seems like the kind of guy that likes to poke needles through his ballsack and shove his nostrils full of M&Ms while he masturbates.
Chunky KitKats
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Why do you post here, Vince? Seriously. You do nothing but bitch about how stupid everyone is. What do you enjoy about posting such negative stuff all the time?
This is precisely what I was thinking.
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I usually have respect for my elders and enjoy hearing their stories, but Vince makes this impossible. He's only interested in telling everyone how stupid they are, and how much more knowledgable he is. Just a miserable old man.
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Vince seems like the kind of guy that likes to poke needles through his ballsack and shove his nostrils full of M&Ms while he masturbates.
:o.. :P
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I usually have respect for my elders and enjoy hearing their stories, but Vince makes this impossible. He's only interested in telling everyone how stupid they are, and how much more knowledgable he is. Just a miserable old man.
Well, coming from another senior citizen on Getbig, it is sometimes difficult for me to feel at times like I have a place here. There are several generations between many of the folks who post here and me. Many of you are as young as my oldest granddaughter (and no, there will be no photos, LOL). I have had a lot of experiences many of you have not and some of you have experience with things I may never get have.
I enjoy most of you and your posts. I feel like I am learning something about how younger folks think and function. This doesn't mean I want to be one of you. I like me as I am. Sometimes a few of you are a bit scary with your ideas about some things, but then I remember that when I was young I had some really crazy thoughts too.
We older folks have a lot of experience. Experience doesn't necessarily mean we are any smarter or wiser, but sometimes where we've been can help others get through those times a little easier. I think Vince means well, but he often comes off like just another know-it-all old fart.....trust me, we old farts don't have special knowledge; we just have a lot of experiences.
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Well, coming from another senior citizen on Getbig, it is sometimes difficult for me to feel at times like I have a place here. There are several generations between many of the folks who post here and me. Many of you are as young as my oldest granddaughter (and no, there will be no photos, LOL). I have had a lot of experiences many of you have not and some of you have experience with things I may never get have.
I enjoy most of you and your posts. I feel like I am learning something about how younger folks think and function. This doesn't mean I want to be one of you. I like me as I am. Sometimes a few of you are a bit scary with your ideas about some things, but then I remember that when I was young I had some really crazy thoughts too.
We older folks have a lot of experience. Experience doesn't necessarily mean we are any smarter or wiser, but sometimes where we've been can help others get through those times a little easier. I think Vince means well, but he often comes off like just another know-it-all old fart.....trust me, we old farts don't have special knowledge; we just have a lot of experiences.
yeah jay...
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Well, coming from another senior citizen on Getbig, it is sometimes difficult for me to feel at times like I have a place here. There are several generations between many of the folks who post here and me. Many of you are as young as my oldest granddaughter (and no, there will be no photos, LOL). I have had a lot of experiences many of you have not and some of you have experience with things I may never get have.
I enjoy most of you and your posts. I feel like I am learning something about how younger folks think and function. This doesn't mean I want to be one of you. I like me as I am. Sometimes a few of you are a bit scary with your ideas about some things, but then I remember that when I was young I had some really crazy thoughts too.
We older folks have a lot of experience. Experience doesn't necessarily mean we are any smarter or wiser, but sometimes where we've been can help others get through those times a little easier. I think Vince means well, but he often comes off like just another know-it-all old fart.....trust me, we old farts don't have special knowledge; we just have a lot of experiences.
Pics of grand daughter or,what YOU?
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I think Vince means well
I have to disagree with this, Prime. I think he means to be the arrogant asshole he portrays here. The man has an incredible chip on his shoulder and really seems to enjoy spreading his negativity.
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Pics of grand daughter or,what YOU?
Ha, ha....never going to happen. She's a good looking woman though. You'll just have to use your imagination.
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I just wonder what have OMR and RA done in bodybuilding? Have they paid their dues? Blue stars? What you!
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Let me see if I got this right. A dude by the name of dropping plates hides behind anonymity because of nasty pricks like himself? Yes, much smarter than me.
Van what's his name suggested that bodybuilders need more protein that I suggested. Well, it seems to me that the vast majority of muscleheads are not growing.
So any protein they need is for maintenance and that amount is far, far less than what the knuckleheads consume. What a waste of precious resources and money.
I doubt the research done today on protein requirement is worth much since those rich supplement companies might be influencing whatever is done.
This is one of the things that bodybuilders believe. Same as free weights are better than machines. What a bunch of dopes that lift weights. The stereotypes are
alive and well on Getbig.
Dropping plates in the gym is what jerks do. In the original Golds Gym and World Gym you would be booted out.
You dont have Blue Stars, Goodrum does that says it all.
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Ron explained he is basically a fan, photographer and businessman. No blue stars for him, then. What about OMR? Or has he taken some time away from Getbig?
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Ron explained he is basically a fan, photographer and businessman. No blue stars for him, then. What about OMR? Or has he taken some time away from Getbig?
I'm this close to knocking your teeth out old man.
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Mr Nobody, you are much more interested in what I say than I was about that buffoon Vince G.
What You?!
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I'm this close to knocking your teeth out old man.
Can't handle a shit stirrer, huh? I fear no man.
What you? What titles have you won?
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Can't handle a shit stirrer, huh? I fear no man.
What you? What titles have you won?
I won the spelling bee in 6th grade bitch. True story.
What you?
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Mr Nobody, you are much more interested in what I say than I was about that buffoon Vince G.
What You?!
Well sometimes I like to hear your history lessons except the ones about Arnold yes he could be a asshole but still the best BB all time and can twist your mind around just with his talk. Goodrum has good ideas for business ventures but some have failed.
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I hold the world record for one handed pinch grip at 92.5 kg or 203 pounds!
What you?
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Well sometimes I like to hear your history lessons except the ones about Arnold yes he could be a asshole but still the best BB all time and can twist your mind around just with his talk. Goodrum has good ideas for business ventures but some have failed.
Arnold is for Arnold. Goodrum is successful at failing. That is ok, at least he tries.
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I hold the world record for one handed pinch grip at 92.5 kg or 203 pounds!
What you?
When I was 14 I could lift 100 lbs clear over my head.
What you?
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I won a painting for sitting quiet at church when a lady artist was painting. I was about 9 at the time.
What You!
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Only thing you win now Vince is saggiest set of old man balls
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Can't handle a shit stirrer, huh? I fear no man.
What you? What titles have you won?
I won a dance contest once upon a time....does this count? ;D
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Pics of grand daughter or,what YOU?
What me? Me must be flotsam. ;D
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William Shatner met me.
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Well, coming from another senior citizen on Getbig, it is sometimes difficult for me to feel at times like I have a place here. There are several generations between many of the folks who post here and me. Many of you are as young as my oldest granddaughter (and no, there will be no photos, LOL). I have had a lot of experiences many of you have not and some of you have experience with things I may never get have.
I enjoy most of you and your posts. I feel like I am learning something about how younger folks think and function. This doesn't mean I want to be one of you. I like me as I am. Sometimes a few of you are a bit scary with your ideas about some things, but then I remember that when I was young I had some really crazy thoughts too.
We older folks have a lot of experience. Experience doesn't necessarily mean we are any smarter or wiser, but sometimes where we've been can help others get through those times a little easier. I think Vince means well, but he often comes off like just another know-it-all old fart.....trust me, we old farts don't have special knowledge; we just have a lot of experiences.
thats a good post prime
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I'm an old spirit trapped in a youthful body.
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I'm an old spirit trapped in a youthful body.
You just described me....oh wait! ::)
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Ropo, you sound like one tough customer. Should I be afraid?
Because I blow away your virtual identity? I bet you can get new one, you silly cunt.. ;D
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You just described me....oh wait! ::)
Don't feel bad. I got "sir" the other day from a hottie. :(
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I won a painting for sitting quiet at church when a lady artist was painting. I was about 9 at the time.
What You!
you transported dianabol using your wife as a mule
what you
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you transported dianabol using your wife as a mule
what you
Snap.
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Because I blow away your virtual identity? I bet you can get new one, you silly girl.. ;D
No you don't!!!
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Even in senility, Im-Basile strives for relevancy.
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Even in senility, Im-Basile strives for relevancy.
he is the most self important patronising creature I have ever come across
a foul bitter old cretin who as you say is trying to stay relevant
when in truth he never was
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he is the most self important patronising creature I have ever come across
a foul bitter old cretin who as you say is trying to stay relevant
when in truth he never was
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...Nope, the scientists stay away from the cult of musclemen and thus little or no research has been done
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Not true, and you demonstrate amazing lack of knowledge for writing this. You are lazy and ignorant.
A quick search of www.pubmed.com using the search term (resistance exercise[ti] OR resistance training[ti] OR weight training[ti]), yielded 2964 hits. Many of these are not related directly to bodybuilding, but I think it is fair to say that there is a large amount of relevant hits.
For instance, if I added, using a logical AND with the term "hypertrophy", I got 298 hits. Se below for some examples, and this is only a subset of what is available. How on earth can you call this "no research"?
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1: Lowery RP, Joy JM, Loenneke JP, de Souza EO, Machado M, Dudeck JE, Wilson JM.
Practical blood flow restriction training increases muscle hypertrophy during a
periodized resistance training programme. Clin Physiol Funct Imaging. 2013 Nov 4.
doi: 10.1111/cpf.12099. [Epub ahead of print] PubMed PMID: 24188499.
4: Mitchell CJ, Churchward-Venne TA, Bellamy L, Parise G, Baker SK, Phillips SM.
Muscular and systemic correlates of resistance training-induced muscle
hypertrophy. PLoS One. 2013 Oct 9;8(10):e78636. doi:
10.1371/journal.pone.0078636. PubMed PMID: 24130904; PubMed Central PMCID:
PMC3793973.
5: Figueiredo VC, Cameron-Smith D. Is carbohydrate needed to further stimulate
muscle protein synthesis/hypertrophy following resistance exercise? J Int Soc
Sports Nutr. 2013 Sep 25;10(1):42. [Epub ahead of print] PubMed PMID: 24066806.
6: Nunes R, Silva P, Alves J, Stefani G, Petry M, Rhoden C, Dal Lago P, Schneider
CD. Effects of resistance training associated with whey protein supplementation
on liver and kidney biomarkers in rats. Appl Physiol Nutr Metab. 2013
Nov;38(11):1166-9. doi: 10.1139/apnm-2013-0004. Epub 2013 Jun 20. PubMed PMID:
24053525.
8: Schoenfeld BJ. Is There a Minimum Intensity Threshold for Resistance
Training-Induced Hypertrophic Adaptations? Sports Med. 2013 Aug 19. [Epub ahead
of print] PubMed PMID: 23955603.
11: MacKenzie MG, Hamilton DL, Pepin M, Patton A, Baar K. Inhibition of myostatin
signaling through Notch activation following acute resistance exercise. PLoS One.
2013 Jul 2;8(7):e68743. doi: 10.1371/journal.pone.0068743. Print 2013. PubMed
PMID: 23844238; PubMed Central PMCID: PMC3699505.
13: Aparicio VA, Sánchez C, Ortega FB, Nebot E, Kapravelou G, Porres JM, Aranda
P. Effects of the dietary amount and source of protein, resistance training and
anabolic-androgenic steroids on body weight and lipid profile of rats. Nutr Hosp.
2013 Jan-Feb;28(1):127-36. doi: 10.3305/nh.2013.28.1.6055. PubMed PMID: 23808440.
15: Yasuda T, Fukumura K, Fukuda T, Uchida Y, Iida H, Meguro M, Sato Y, Yamasoba
T, Nakajima T. Muscle size and arterial stiffness after blood flow-restricted
low-intensity resistance training in older adults. Scand J Med Sci Sports. 2013
Jun 3. doi: 10.1111/sms.12087. [Epub ahead of print] PubMed PMID: 23730848.
17: Smith RA, Martin GJ, Szivak TK, Comstock BA, Dunn-Lewis C, Hooper DL,
Flanagan SD, Looney DP, Volek JS, Maresh CM, Kraemer WJ. The Effects of
Prioritization on Resistance Training in NCAA Division I Football Summer
Training. J Strength Cond Res. 2013 May 21. [Epub ahead of print] PubMed PMID:
23698079.
19: Farup J, Rahbek SK, Vendelbo MH, Matzon A, Hindhede J, Bejder A, Ringgard S,
Vissing K. Whey protein hydrolysate augments tendon and muscle hypertrophy
independent of resistance exercise contraction mode. Scand J Med Sci Sports. 2013
May 7. doi: 10.1111/sms.12083. [Epub ahead of print] PubMed PMID: 23647357.
20: Walker S, Hulmi JJ, Wernbom M, Nyman K, Kraemer WJ, Ahtiainen JP, Häkkinen K.
Variable resistance training promotes greater fatigue resistance but not
hypertrophy versus constant resistance training. Eur J Appl Physiol. 2013
Sep;113(9):2233-44. doi: 10.1007/s00421-013-2653-4. Epub 2013 May 1. PubMed PMID:
23636698.
21: Thalacker-Mercer A, Stec M, Cui X, Cross J, Windham S, Bamman M. Cluster
analysis reveals differential transcript profiles associated with resistance
training-induced human skeletal muscle hypertrophy. Physiol Genomics. 2013 Jun
17;45(12):499-507. doi: 10.1152/physiolgenomics.00167.2012. Epub 2013 Apr 30.
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Don't feel bad. I got "sir" the other day from a hottie. :(
I get "sir, are you done with that?" at the gym all the time now :-\ I didn't shave for a couple weeks recently and noticed a few grays in the chin area.
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I get "sir, are you done with that?" at the gym all the time now :-\ I didn't shave for a couple weeks recently and noticed a few grays in the chin area.
You are not eating enough greens.
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You are not eating enough greens.
FALCONISM AT ITS FINEST...
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I get "sir, are you done with that?" at the gym all the time now :-\ I didn't shave for a couple weeks recently and noticed a few grays in the chin area.
I have fooled everyone into thinking they're blonde by affecting a Swedish accent. On the downside I have to prop up the fiction with a lot of pickled herring in the cupboard.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=203682.0;attach=237440;image)
I made that one years ago in the 'fat people's willpower'- thread ;D glad it surfaced again lol
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yall negros is ghey
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I have fooled everyone into thinking they're blonde by affecting a Swedish accent. On the downside I have to prop up the fiction with a lot of pickled herring in the cupboard.
;D
carry a pair of skis round with you
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Van what's his name suggested that bodybuilders need more protein that I suggested. Well, it seems to me that the vast majority of muscleheads are not growing.
So any protein they need is for maintenance and that amount is far, far less than what the knuckleheads consume. What a waste of precious resources and money.
I doubt the research done today on protein requirement is worth much since those rich supplement companies might be influencing whatever is done.
This is one of the things that bodybuilders believe. Same as free weights are better than machines. What a bunch of dopes that lift weights. The stereotypes are
alive and well on Getbig.
No, I challenged you to support your claim that 20 grams of protein is enough for anyone at all.
Let's set aside the question of whether bodybuilders need additional protein. Sometimes you seem to have high respect for higher education and science and at other times you say you don't trust the research at all. Which is it? I have shown you that for example the World Health Organization has written reports based on research and given guidelines for protein requirements. This research has nothing to do with supplements or whey protein sales. They aren't selling whey to the poor negros in Africa or the people in Bangladesh or whatever. The concern is with people simply surviving and maintaining health. I also showed you examples of the recommendations of the Australian government. I could give you the recommendations of a number of countries, the US, Sweden where I reside etc. Do you think these recommendations are linked to supplement sales? Really? The government recommendations do not mention supplements at all, in fact governments are very anti-supplement.
You claim there are some "textbooks" which support your 20g figures. I say there aren't. But you don't want to provide the references. ::)
You are absolutely correct that most bodybuilders aren't growing. Most of the time we are standing still, regressing slighty, gaining back a little. It has to with the very limited amount of muscle the body wants to hold, we can't be growing all the time, no matter what. But let's assume you are in fact in a growth phase. It's only logical that protein requirements will go up, after all muscle doesn't materialize out of thin air. How much more you need is debatable but you seem to be under the assumption that if for example you are gaining 1g of muscle tissue a day then all you need is an additional single gram of protein. It doesn't work like that.
Since I remember you just turned 70 research like this might be interesting to you. 20 grams of high quality protein isn't even enough to maximally stimulate protein synthesis post workout in the elderly. They need double, in a single shot.
Br J Nutr. 2012 Nov 28;108(10):1780-8. doi: 10.1017/S0007114511007422. Epub 2012 Feb 7.
Resistance exercise enhances myofibrillar protein synthesis with graded intakes of whey protein in older men.
Yang Y, Breen L, Burd NA, Hector AJ, Churchward-Venne TA, Josse AR, Tarnopolsky MA, Phillips SM.
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Exercise Metabolism Research Group, Department of Kinesiology, McMaster University, 1280 Main Street West, Hamilton, ON, Canada L8S 4K1.
Abstract
Feeding stimulates robust increases in muscle protein synthesis (MPS); however, ageing may alter the anabolic response to protein ingestion and the subsequent aminoacidaemia. With this as background, we aimed to determine in the present study the dose-response of MPS with the ingestion of isolated whey protein, with and without prior resistance exercise, in the elderly. For the purpose of this study, thirty-seven elderly men (age 71 (sd 4) years) completed a bout of unilateral leg-based resistance exercise before ingesting 0, 10, 20 or 40 g of whey protein isolate (W0-W40, respectively). Infusion of l-[1-13C]leucine and l-[ring-13C6]phenylalanine with bilateral vastus lateralis muscle biopsies were used to ascertain whole-body leucine oxidation and 4 h post-protein consumption of MPS in the fed-state of non-exercised and exercised leg muscles. It was determined that whole-body leucine oxidation increased in a stepwise, dose-dependent manner. MPS increased above basal, fasting values by approximately 65 and 90 % for W20 and W40, respectively (P < 0·05), but not with lower doses of whey. While resistance exercise was generally effective at stimulating MPS, W20 and W40 ingestion post-exercise increased MPS above W0 and W10 exercised values (P < 0·05) and W40 was greater than W20 (P < 0·05). Based on the study, the following conclusions were drawn. At rest, the optimal whey protein dose for non-frail older adults to consume, to increase myofibrillar MPS above fasting rates, was 20 g. Resistance exercise increases MPS in the elderly at all protein doses, but to a greater extent with 40 g of whey ingestion. These data suggest that, in contrast to younger adults, in whom post-exercise rates of MPS are saturated with 20 g of protein, exercised muscles of older adults respond to higher protein doses.
A summary of a review of research:
Ageing is associated with a blunted muscle protein synthetic response to anabolic stimuli, i.e. feeding and resistance exercise. However, dietary and exercise interventions may prevent or slow sarcopenic muscle loss. First, we stress the importance of ingesting sufficient protein with each meal for older adults. Specifically, given the blunted sensitivity of older muscles to low doses of amino acids, a dietary plan that includes at least 20 g and as high as 30 g of high quality protein per meal will provide sufficient essential amino acids, particularly leucine, required to elicit a robust acute muscle protein synthetic response above that seen at rest, thereby promoting the accretion of muscle protein over time. Secondly, we advise the use of resistance exercise in the elderly to induce hypertrophy, improve strength and improve physical function. In older adults who are not restricted by physical disability, frequent high-intensity weight lifting will increase lean muscle mass. Alternatively, low-intensity high volume weight lifting may also promote an adaptive response in the elderly provided the working muscle is sufficiently 'stressed' (i.e. via blood flow restriction to the muscle or lifting to failure). Finally, utilizing resistance exercise and protein ingestion concurrently will promote an optimal anabolic response than either stimulus alone and should be an important consideration for clinicians and patients alike. However, in order to maximize the anabolic potential of prior resistance exercise, the elderly may require more protein (~40 g) than the young (~20 g). Further work is required in order to delineate the most appropriate feeding strategies to augment resistance exercise adaptation in the elderly.
http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/8/1/68
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Nutrition and training expert
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You are not eating enough greens.
I think I need more orange clay from roughly a two-foot depth in my diet.
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Nordic Nerd proves my point. None of the studies cited remotely involve bodybuilding and maximum hypertrophy. It is a subject that science is not at all interested in. QED.
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Van Bilderass demonstrates very little as well. If bodybuilders ate a balanced diet there is no need for ingesting large amounts of additional protein via supplements. I stated that 50 grams a day is closer to the requirement than 1 or 2 grams per pound of body weight.
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Nordic Nerd proves my point. None of the studies cited remotely involve bodybuilding and maximum hypertrophy. It is a subject that science is not at all interested in. QED.
You are wrong. Just use the search terms and see for yourself. There are studies on hypertrophy as related to rep ranges, sets, pauses between sets, rep cadence, dietary factors etc. See these few examples:
J Strength Cond Res. 2010 Apr;24(4):1150-9. doi: 10.1519/JSC.0b013e3181d4d436.
Single vs. multiple sets of resistance exercise for muscle hypertrophy: a meta-analysis.
Krieger JW.
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Journal of Pure Power, Colorado Springs, CO, USA. jim@jopp.us
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Previous meta-analyses have compared the effects of single to multiple sets on strength, but analyses on muscle hypertrophy are lacking. The purpose of this study was to use multilevel meta-regression to compare the effects of single and multiple sets per exercise on muscle hypertrophy. The analysis comprised 55 effect sizes (ESs), nested within 19 treatment groups and 8 studies. Multiple sets were associated with a larger ES than a single set (difference = 0.10 +/- 0.04; confidence interval [CI]: 0.02, 0.19; p = 0.016). In a dose-response model, there was a trend for 2-3 sets per exercise to be associated with a greater ES than 1 set (difference = 0.09 +/- 0.05; CI: -0.02, 0.20; p = 0.09), and a trend for 4-6 sets per exercise to be associated with a greater ES than 1 set (difference = 0.20 +/- 0.11; CI: -0.04, 0.43; p = 0.096). Both of these trends were significant when considering permutation test p values (p < 0.01). There was no significant difference between 2-3 sets per exercise and 4-6 sets per exercise (difference = 0.10 +/- 0.10; CI: -0.09, 0.30; p = 0.29). There was a tendency for increasing ESs for an increasing number of sets (0.24 for 1 set, 0.34 for 2-3 sets, and 0.44 for 4-6 sets). Sensitivity analysis revealed no highly influential studies that affected the magnitude of the observed differences, but one study did slightly influence the level of significance and CI width. No evidence of publication bias was observed. In conclusion, multiple sets are associated with 40% greater hypertrophy-related ESs than 1 set, in both trained and untrained subjects.
J Int Soc Sports Nutr. 2011 Oct 27;8(1):17. doi: 10.1186/1550-2783-8-17.
Strength and hypertrophy responses to constant and decreasing rest intervals in trained men using creatine supplementation.
Souza-Junior TP, Willardson JM, Bloomer R, Leite RD, Fleck SJ, Oliveira PR, Simão R.
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Department of Physical Education, Federal University of Parana, Curitiba, Paraná, Brazil. tacitojr@ufpr.br.
Abstract
BACKGROUND:
The purpose of the current study was to compare strength and hypertrophy responses to resistance training programs that instituted constant rest intervals (CI) and decreasing rest intervals (DI) between sets over the course of eight weeks by trained men who supplemented with creatine monohydrate (CR).
METHODS:
Twenty-two recreationally trained men were randomly assigned to a CI group (n = 11; 22.3 ± 1 years; 77.7 ± 5.4 kg; 180 ± 2.2 cm) or a DI group (n = 11; 22 ± 2.5 years; 75.8 ± 4.9 kg; 178.8 ± 3.4 cm). Subjects in both groups supplemented with CR; the only difference between groups was the rest interval instituted between sets; the CI group used 2 minutes rest intervals between sets and exercises for the entire 8-weeks of training, while the DI group started with a 2 minute rest interval the first two weeks; after which the rest interval between sets was decreased 15 seconds per week (i.e. 2 minutes decreasing to 30 seconds between sets). Pre- and post-intervention maximal strength for the free weight back squat and bench press exercises and isokinetic peak torque were assessed for the knee extensors and flexors. Additionally, muscle cross-sectional area (CSA) of the right thigh and upper arm was measured using magnetic resonance imaging.
RESULTS:
Both groups demonstrated significant increases in back squat and bench press maximal strength, knee extensor and flexor isokinetic peak torque, and upper arm and right thigh CSA from pre- to post-training (p ≤ 0.0001); however, there were no significant differences between groups for any of these variables. The total volume for the bench press and back squat were significantly greater for CI group versus the DI group.
CONCLUSIONS:
We report that the combination of CR supplementation and resistance training can increase muscular strength, isokinetic peak torque, and muscle CSA, irrespective of the rest interval length between sets. Because the volume of training was greater for the CI group versus the DI group, yet strength gains were similar, the creatine supplementation appeared to bolster adaptations for the DI group, even in the presence of significantly less volume. However, further research is needed with the inclusion of a control group not receiving supplementation combined and resistance training with decreasing rest intervals to further elucidate such hypotheses.
J Strength Cond Res. 2010 Jul;24(7):1843-50. doi: 10.1519/JSC.0b013e3181ddae4a.
Comparison between constant and decreasing rest intervals: influence on maximal strength and hypertrophy.
de Souza TP Jr, Fleck SJ, Simão R, Dubas JP, Pereira B, de Brito Pacheco EM, da Silva AC, de Oliveira PR.
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Faculty of Physical Education of Santos, Metropolitan University of Santos, Santos, Brazil.
Abstract
Most resistance training programs use constant rest period lengths between sets and exercises, but some programs use decreasing rest period lengths as training progresses. The aim of this study was to compare the effect on strength and hypertrophy of 8 weeks of resistance training using constant rest intervals (CIs) and decreasing rest intervals (DIs) between sets and exercises. Twenty young men recreationally trained in strength training were randomly assigned to either a CI or DI training group. During the first 2 weeks of training, 3 sets of 10-12 repetition maximum (RM) with 2-minute rest intervals between sets and exercises were performed by both groups. During the next 6 weeks of training, the CI group trained using 2 minutes between sets and exercises (4 sets of 8-10RM), and the DI group trained with DIs (2 minutes decreasing to 30 seconds) as the 6 weeks of training progressed (4 sets of 8-10RM). Total training volume of the bench press and squat were significantly lower for the DI compared to the CI group (bench press 9.4%, squat 13.9%) and weekly training volume of these same exercises was lower in the DI group from weeks 6 to 8 of training. Strength (1RM) in the bench press and squat, knee extensor and flexor isokinetic measures of peak torque, and muscle cross-sectional area (CSA) using magnetic resonance imaging were assessed pretraining and posttraining. No significant differences (p < or = 0.05) were shown between the CI and DI training protocols for CSA (arm 13.8 vs. 14.5%, thigh 16.6 vs. 16.3%), 1RM (bench press 28 vs. 37%, squat 34 vs. 34%), and isokinetic peak torque. In conclusion, the results indicate that a training protocol with DI is just as effective as a CI protocol over short training periods (6 weeks) for increasing maximal strength and muscle CSA; thus, either type of program can be used over a short training period to cause strength and hypertrophy.
Eur J Appl Physiol. 2013 Apr;113(4):975-85. doi: 10.1007/s00421-012-2511-9. Epub 2012 Oct 6.
Comparison of muscle hypertrophy following 6-month of continuous and periodic strength training.
Ogasawara R, Yasuda T, Ishii N, Abe T.
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Graduate School of Frontier Sciences, University of Tokyo, Kashiwa, Chiba, Japan. riki.ogasawara@gmail.com
Abstract
To compare the effects of a periodic resistance training (PTR) program with those of a continuous resistance training (CTR) program on muscle size and function, 14 young men were randomly divided into a CTR group and a PTR group. Both groups performed high-intensity bench press exercise training [75 % of one repetition maximum (1-RM); 3 sets of 10 reps] for 3 days per week. The CTR group trained continuously over a 24-week period, whereas the PTR group performed three cycles of 6-week training (or retraining), with 3-week detraining periods between training cycles. After an initial 6 weeks of training, increases in cross-sectional area (CSA) of the triceps brachii and pectoralis major muscles and maximum isometric voluntary contraction of the elbow extensors and 1-RM were similar between the two groups. In the CTR group, muscle CSA and strength gradually increased during the initial 6 weeks of training. However, the rate of increase in muscle CSA and 1-RM decreased gradually after that. In the PTR group, increase in muscle CSA and strength during the first 3-week detraining/6-week retraining cycle were similar to that in the CTR group during the corresponding period. However, increase in muscle CSA and strength during the second 3-week detraining/6-week retraining cycle were significantly higher in the PTR group than in the CTR group. Thus, overall improvements in muscle CSA and strength were similar between the groups. The results indicate that 3-week detraining/6-week retraining cycles result in muscle hypertrophy similar to that occurring with continuous resistance training after 24 weeks.
J Strength Cond Res. 2013 Jan;27(1):8-13. doi: 10.1519/JSC.0b013e3182679215.
Effects of training volume on strength and hypertrophy in young men.
Sooneste H, Tanimoto M, Kakigi R, Saga N, Katamoto S.
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Graduate School of Health and Sports Science, Juntendo University, Inzai City, Japan. heikijapan@gmail.com
Abstract
Knowledge of the effects of training volume on upper limb muscular strength and hypertrophy is rather limited. In this study, both arms of the same subject were trained in a crossover-like design with different training volumes (1 or 3 sets) to eliminate the effects of genetic variation and other individual differences. The purpose of this study was to investigate the effects of training volume on muscular strength and hypertrophy in sedentary, untrained young Japanese men. Eight subjects (age, 25.0 ± 2.1 years; body mass, 64.2 ± 7.9 kg; height, 171.7 ± 5.1 cm) were recruited. The subjects trained their elbow flexor muscles twice per week for 12 consecutive weeks using a seated dumbbell preacher curl. The arms were randomly assigned to training with 1 or 3 sets. The training weight was set at 80% of 1 repetition maximum for all sets. The 3-set protocol increased cross-sectional area significantly more than did 1 set (1 set, 8.0 ± 3.7%; 3 sets, 13.3 ± 3.6%, p < 0.05). Furthermore, gains in strength with the 3-set protocol tended to be greater than those with 1 set (1 set, 20.4 ± 21.6%; 3 sets, 31.7 ± 22.0%, p = 0.076). Based on the results, the authors recommend 3 sets for sedentary untrained individuals. However, this population should incorporate light training days of 1 set into their training program to prevent overtraining and ensure adherence. The findings are relevant for the sedentary, untrained young male population and must be interpreted within the context of this study.
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Van Bilderass demonstrates very little as well. If bodybuilders ate a balanced diet there is no need for ingesting large amounts of additional protein via supplements. I stated that 50 grams a day is closer to the requirement than 1 or 2 grams per pound of body weight.
I agree, but Goodrum advises more maybe due to business interests.
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Nordic Nerd proves my point. None of the studies cited remotely involve bodybuilding and maximum hypertrophy. It is a subject that science is not at all interested in. QED.
You are able to read, are you not?
Vince, many of the studies he posted deal directly with resistance training (which is the core of any bodybuilding regimen) and induced hypertrophy. You must have not read through that exhaustive list of over 100 studies that NN posted.
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Van Bilderass demonstrates very little as well. If bodybuilders ate a balanced diet there is no need for ingesting large amounts of additional protein via supplements. I stated that 50 grams a day is closer to the requirement than 1 or 2 grams per pound of body weight.
You maybe said 50 grams at some point but you did also say 20 grams. The WHO recommendation,
along with the recommendations of many government institutions is about 0.8g/kg or 0.36g/lb.
This is still more than 50 grams for the average adult male, and you're still not taking into account the hypertrophy the bodybuilder hopes to achieve. The RDA is just for normal health.
Sure, I think many bodybuilders may eat too much protein but that wasn't my point. My point was that you were exaggerating and refuse to admit it.
How much bodybuilders need is debatable but there is some research that suggests that something like 1.5g/lb might be beneficial in some athletes, in some circumstances. And since eating a lot of protein is probably not harmful it might be that eating more than needed is a good strategy sometimes. Kind of like insurance.
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You are able to read, are you not?
Vince, many of the studies he posted deal directly with resistance training (which is the core of any bodybuilding regimen) and induced hypertrophy. You must have not read through that exhaustive list of over 100 studies that NN posted.
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Give me a break. I never make jokes about hypertrophy. I am not interested in what they call resistance training. I am interested in maximum hypertrophy. This process takes years and years to obtain. The phenomenon of maximum hypertrophy in humans has never been studied.
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You maybe said 50 grams at some point but you did also say 20 grams. The WHO recommendation,
along with the recommendations of many government institutions is about 0.8g/kg or 0.36g/lb.
This is still more than 50 grams for the average adult male, and you're still not taking into account the hypertrophy the bodybuilder hopes to achieve. The RDA is just for normal health.
Sure, I think many bodybuilders may eat too much protein but that wasn't my point. My point was that you were exaggerating and refuse to admit it.
How much bodybuilders need is debatable but there is some research that suggests that something like 1.5g/lb might be beneficial in some athletes, in some circumstances. And since eating a lot of protein is probably not harmful it might be that eating more than needed is a good strategy sometimes. Kind of like insurance.
So much that bodybuilders do is based on former practices handed down by word of mouth and what is written in muscle magazines and books. The magazines, collectively, are sponsored by supplement advertising so those ads distort and greatly exaggerate the nutrition requirements of bodybuilders.
The problem is that most musclemen ingest more than is required just to make sure they get enough. Has anyone actually tried to see what the minimum is? Ingesting more than is necessary is a waste of expensive protein. Bodybuilders concern themselves more with sufficiency than necessity. I am interested in necessity and limits. Mike Mentzer and Arthur Jones wrote about the myths and foolishness in bodybuilding and those two were well informed and intelligent individuals.
I argue that drugs are not necessary to get large muscles. I know it is true but most of the flotsam here literally do not believe me. Belief doesn't make something true. I prefer to believe what I found to be true through personal experimenting and results.
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Blue Stars and an unbanned account at Ironage....where's yours at....oh that's right you don't have any.....too bad.
Basile even gets owned by Goodrum, he is truly at the very bottom of the totem pole!!
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Give me a break. I never make jokes about hypertrophy. I am not interested in what they call resistance training. I am interested in maximum hypertrophy. This process takes years and years to obtain. The phenomenon of maximum hypertrophy in humans has never been studied.
This post is very fucked up. :-\
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I am interested in necessity and limits.
Any plans to apply that to your personal eating habits? It's clear that you're eating well above your calorie requirements.
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LOL. When I was much younger I taught high school PE, ran my gym at night and then had a work out. In the years from 15 to 30 I had trouble eating enough to grow. Especially when starting out. That is the problem most young guys have. They need more calories and not more protein. What a shame they learn rubbish from the start about the necessity of supplements.
As I got older I found myself not being as active. I don't particularly eat that much and often miss lunch or breakfast. The fact is we don't need as many calories in old age.
One day I will be motivated to show you guys and actually start training consistently again!
What you?
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Mike Mentzer's alleged intelligence is very much overstated. I was impressed with some of it when I was younger but when one reads it with a truly critical eye, it doesn't hold up. Also, his training videos on YouTube make him come across as a deranged lunatic.
No, Mike Mentzer was way above average in intelligence. He was one of the few writers to incorporate a consistent philosophy of life throughout his articles and books. That can't be done by knuckleheads. After placing out of the top three in 1980 he became somewhat deranged via drugs and more or less was never the same again. What you see in his last videos was a shell of the former bright Mike.
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Give me a break. I never make jokes about hypertrophy. I am not interested in what they call resistance training. I am interested in maximum hypertrophy. This process takes years and years to obtain. The phenomenon of maximum hypertrophy in humans has never been studied.
Pretty sure that when someone posts up maximum hypertrophy studies, ol' Vince will say he really meant super-maximum hypertrophy.
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This post is very fucked up. :-\
No, Booty, it just sounds odd. Of course I am interested in all facets of hypertrophy and research done. It is just a fact that there have been no studies on Mr Olympias. What is the composition of their muscles? No one knows. How does one train to obtain maximum size in his muscles. It remains hearsay and not science. Of course, I exclude the drugs from the equation but that is also a separate inquiry that is of interest to me.
That is why there remains total confusion about training and in the vacuum just about everyone steps in as an expert.
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Pretty sure that when someone posts up maximum hypertrophy studies, ol' Vince will say he really meant super-maximum hypertrophy.
Nice try doctor. Either there are studies re maximum human hypertrophy or there are none. I haven't seen any so what you?
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Old fat bastard talking alot of gibberish in this thread.
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Basile even gets owned by Goodrum, he is truly at the very bottom of the totem pole!!
I own that buffoon and he knows it. Since he is part female the only way he knows how to get even is to fabricate bullshit to try to discredit me.
The unthinking flotsam read what that dork says and believe it. Amazing. The only reason Goodrum isn't being sued is because he doesn't have
enough assets to make it worthwhile.
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Old fat bastard talking alot of gibberish in this thread.
Chaos, you are a big bloke and have paid your dues. Whatever have I done to you to deserve nasty shit all the time?
What you?
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Chaos, you are a big bloke and have paid your dues. Whatever have I done to you to deserve nasty shit all the time?
What you?
Name one good thing you have done. Have you spent any time on any other area of getbig helping others? Answering questions? Giving advice? No. You spend all your time on the g&o whining about how bad it is. ::)
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Name one good thing you have done. Have you spent any time on any other area of getbig helping others? Answering questions? Giving advice? No. You spend all your time on the g&o whining about how bad it is. ::)
Chaos, I am a professional in the gym industry and I don't have to give free advice. I have started a thread here on the G&O about my theory of maximum hypertrophy but the lads weren't satisfied.
I bet I am one of the few gym owners who doesn't do personal training. I help people at my gym but I don't charge for it.
On the internet there are just too many 'experts'. It is the same elsewhere and not only on Getbig. I literally do not read those training forums because I have no interest in them. Arguing about training methods and feats of strength is
not at all productive. If I were among knowledgeable people that would be different. I accept that there are knowledgeable people here on Getbig but I choose to refrain from debating with them except here on the G&O.
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No, Booty, it just sounds odd. Of course I am interested in all facets of hypertrophy and research done. It is just a fact that there have been no studies on Mr Olympias. What is the composition of their muscles? No one knows. How does one train to obtain maximum size in his muscles. It remains hearsay and not science. Of course, I exclude the drugs from the equation but that is also a separate inquiry that is of interest to me.
That is why there remains total confusion about training and in the vacuum just about everyone steps in as an expert.
Most Mr. Olympias train differently. High volume, low volume, heavy weight. more reps, cheating style, strict form, etc. It's different for everyone.
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Chaos, I am a professional in the gym industry and I don't have to give free advice.
Didn't read past this. You think you are special, you are not.
What you?
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You can't what you me and get away with it you know?
So, Chaos, what national titles have you won? Just curious.
Is Milos' gym still open in Fullerton?
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The horse in this picture was a 9 foot tall Clydesdale 6 months ago before he started Vince Basile's hypertrophy way of training theory...
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=505311.0;attach=541286;image)
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You can't what you me and get away with it you know?
So, Chaos, what national titles have you won? Just curious.
Is Milos' gym still open in Fullerton?
Too many to list!!
How many have you won? Not including the ones where you picked the judges.
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Most Mr. Olympias train differently. High volume, low volume, heavy weight. more reps, cheating style, strict form, etc. It's different for everyone.
You aren't talking to some bloke in the corner of your gym now. A scientist would ask what is it that bodybuilders do to stimulate maximum hypertrophy? They speak using terms like time under tension, intensity, translation. It can be put down in a formula. The problem becomes complex because of the many variables in humans and moving systems, especially over perhaps a decade or more.
Think about triceps training. How long has the muscle endured under tension and what is the degree of that tension? How many repeats lead to growth? It therefore makes no difference about individual methods as long as things can be reduced to scientific data. There has to be a precise theory that can be applied by everyone. Since humans vary in so many ways applying the right theory will provide maximum growth but individual results will vary according to many factors such as sex, age, muscle fibre type and number and so on.
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Too many to list!!
If true it seems an injustice that you have no BLUE stars! What you Ron Avidan!
By the way, picking the judges was a favour to the promoter. Not something a knucklehead would think of, huh?
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If true it seems an injustice that you have no BLUE stars! What you Ron Avidan!
By the way, picking the judges was a favour to the promoter. Not something a knucklehead would think of, huh?
You are not above anyone to have the contempt towards others you portray. You offer no practical advice for bodybuilding or strength training in general. Your quack "theories" are unfounded and completely irrelevant to building muscle mass.
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Chaos, fly out to Sydney and see what I can do. No homo!! This is a nice time of the year.
What you?
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Chaos, fly out to Sydney and see what I can do. No homo!! This is a nice time of the year.
What you?
If you were allowed to travel, I'd tell you to fly to LA.
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You are not above anyone to have the contempt towards others you portray. You offer no practical advice for bodybuilding or strength training in general. Your quack "theories" are unfounded and completely irrelevant to building muscle mass.
has basile ever actually stated what his 'hypertrophy theory' is, or just continue to say he has one?
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has basile ever actually stated what his 'hypertrophy theory' is, or just continue to say he has one?
Yes, I posted the theory here on the G&O and debated all comers. Did the same on HST forum and no one there could refute my claims.
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Chaos running a large one-man train
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If you were allowed to travel, I'd tell you to fly to LA.
Yes, Chaos I cannot travel at the moment because both my passports have expired. Will attend to that when needed.
I have special equipment that is necessary to apply my programs especially for arms.
I have nothing to gain getting you bigger but you have so you should be the one travelling.
Sydney is great and it is summer down here. Aussie gals even dig the Yank accent ya know.
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Yes, Chaos I cannot travel at the moment because both my passports have expired. Will attend to that when needed.
I have special equipment that is necessary to apply my programs especially for arms.
I have nothing to gain getting you bigger but you have so you should be the one travelling.
Sydney is great and it is summer down here. Aussie gals even dig the Yank accent ya know.
Lol excuses, excuses. Special equipment? Can you point us in the direction of all these massive bodybuilders that use your "special equipment"?
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You aren't talking to some bloke in the corner of your gym now. A scientist would ask what is it that bodybuilders do to stimulate maximum hypertrophy? They speak using terms like time under tension, intensity, translation. It can be put down in a formula. The problem becomes complex because of the many variables in humans and moving systems, especially over perhaps a decade or more.
Think about triceps training. How long has the muscle endured under tension and what is the degree of that tension? How many repeats lead to growth? It therefore makes no difference about individual methods as long as things can be reduced to scientific data. There has to be a precise theory that can be applied by everyone. Since humans vary in so many ways applying the right theory will provide maximum growth but individual results will vary according to many factors such as sex, age, muscle fibre type and number and so on.
No. I'm talking to an old fart who thinks he knows it all.
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Lol excuses, excuses. Special equipment? Can you point us in the direction of all these massive bodybuilders that use your "special equipment"?
Bodybuilders are a curious lot. They believe what others believe. That is why few read what science has to offer. Nope, they prefer the knowledge
from the big guys at the gym who must know because they got big. Well, up to a point that is not silly. However, if you enquire about a theory from
those musclemen you won't obtain anything scientific. Instead they talk about doing what works for you? Yeah, but what about if you want to save
years and not experiment to find out what works for you? What must work for everyone is my quest and I am closer than most in finding a solution.
Bodybuilders will take their false beliefs to their graves. I will abandon my theories if they are refuted. So far no one has done that. Dismissing me
falls infinitely short of a refutation!
What you?
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Bodybuilders are a curious lot. They believe what others believe. That is why few read what science has to offer. Nope, they prefer the knowledge
from the big guys at the gym who must know because they got big. Well, up to a point that is not silly. However, if you enquire about a theory from
those musclemen you won't obtain anything scientific. Instead they talk about doing what works for you? Yeah, but what about if you want to save
years and not experiment to find out what works for you? What must work for everyone is my quest and I am closer than most in finding a solution.
Bodybuilders will take their false beliefs to their graves. I will abandon my theories if they are refuted. So far no one has done that. Dismissing me
falls infinitely short of a refutation!
What you?
Post a link to the thread you started with your theories.
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Since he is part female the only way he knows how to get even is to fabricate bullshit
ROFL!!!
Basile +1
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Why is someone your age so concerned about hypertrophy anyway? What a total waste of your twilight years.
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Why is someone your age so concerned about hypertrophy anyway? What a total waste of your twilight years.
Have you considered that hypertrophy might be the fountain of youth in old age? If you can stimulate your muscles to grow then your body will resemble a younger person.
So far I haven't seen any diminishing hypertrophy effect from training. It might affect libido positively as well. The problem when you are over 70 is dealing with injuries caused by training in the past.
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So far I haven't seen any diminishing hypertrophy effect from training.
Really? So today you're walking around with the same amount of muscle that you had on stage?
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No, I don't have the same amount of muscle I had when I competed. However, my calves are bigger now. My arms are not far behind and if I were to train them consistently they would equal what I had in the past. Losing fat is a far more daunting consideration.
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No, I don't have the same amount of muscle I had when I competed. However, my calves are bigger now. My arms are not far behind and if I were to train them consistently they would equal what I had in the past. Losing fat is a far more daunting consideration.
My unbiased opinion is that you're full of shit regarding basically everything that comes out of your mouth with the exception of a few interesting tales; I would also like to give you a pair of black eyes and a swift kick in the ass.
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It sounds like the keys are training consistently and getting your diet in order.
Truly groundbreaking stuff here.
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So much that bodybuilders do is based on former practices handed down by word of mouth and what is written in muscle magazines and books. The magazines, collectively, are sponsored by supplement advertising so those ads distort and greatly exaggerate the nutrition requirements of bodybuilders.
The problem is that most musclemen ingest more than is required just to make sure they get enough. Has anyone actually tried to see what the minimum is? Ingesting more than is necessary is a waste of expensive protein. Bodybuilders concern themselves more with sufficiency than necessity. I am interested in necessity and limits. Mike Mentzer and Arthur Jones wrote about the myths and foolishness in bodybuilding and those two were well informed and intelligent individuals.
I argue that drugs are not necessary to get large muscles. I know it is true but most of the flotsam here literally do not believe me. Belief doesn't make something true. I prefer to believe what I found to be true through personal experimenting and results.
Yada, yada, yada....one only hopes you are not holding yourself up as some example of his theory because that would be laughable.
Vince, you have a wealth of experience and knowledge about bodybuilding which you can share. Quit preaching to others and someone might actually pay attention to what you have to share.
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Yes, I posted the theory here on the G&O and debated all comers. Did the same on HST forum and no one there could refute my claims.
is a full range of motion a part of your theory?
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No offense, Vince, but you do kinda whine a lot. What about the silver linings? ???
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Whining? Get a life. People attack the person instead of interacting with them. Chaos found that out. It is your attitude that causes you to be so hostile. I can see little point in discussing bodybuilding sets and reps. Everyone here is already expert enough and wouldn't listen to what I have to say so it is a complete waste of my time.
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No, I don't have the same amount of muscle I had when I competed. However, my calves are bigger now. My arms are not far behind and if I were to train them consistently they would equal what I had in the past. Losing fat is a far more daunting consideration.
In terms of your calves being the same size and arms nearly being the same size as previous, I assume it's all muscle and little fat? Claiming 'big' if you're grossly overweight is bullshit. Not saying you are, merely enquiring.
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Vince Basille, what you?
...shit, you're right: that's pretty fun ;D
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Have you considered that hypertrophy might be the fountain of youth in old age? If you can stimulate your muscles to grow then your body will resemble a younger person.
So far I haven't seen any diminishing hypertrophy effect from training. It might affect libido positively as well. The problem when you are over 70 is dealing with injuries caused by training in the past.
A combination of hypertrophy-oriented training, strength training and endurance training would be a fountain of youth. I agree that joint problems would be difficult to deal with though. One must work around arthritis.
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Give me a break. I never make jokes about hypertrophy. I am not interested in what they call resistance training. I am interested in maximum hypertrophy. This process takes years and years to obtain. The phenomenon of maximum hypertrophy in humans has never been studied.
What about hypetrophy in one-legged women with chlamydia and bad breath? No studies on that, so I guess that also proves that hypertrophy has not been properly studied, according to you.
The fact is that you just try to be clever with your uninteresting ad-hoc definitions. Hypertrophy has been extensively studied and scientists certainly are interested in it.
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I can see little or no benefits for endurance training. To me that sort of activity leads to injuries and worn joints. I can't tell you how many people over 65 who need joint replacements. Mine are fine.
Hypertrophy must trigger the release of growth hormone and so there are benefits naturally without needing a prescription. Older guys don't say they are using hormones but just replacing chemicals.
That isn't what I want to do. The only pills I take are aspirin and that is very rarely.
My arms and calves are hard. Sure I am carrying some safety fat but I am solid where it counts. The waist is another thing. That is where adipose tissue stores on men and not so easy to remove.
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What about hypetrophy in one-legged women with chlamydia and bad breath? No studies on that, so I guess that also proves that hypertrophy has not been properly studied, according to you.
The fact is that you just try to be clever with your uninteresting ad-hoc definitions. Hypertrophy has been extensively studied and scientists certainly are interested in it.
NN
Please conduct yourself as if in a group of post graduates. Silly arguments have no currency here. What you?
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I can see little or no benefits for endurance training. To me that sort of activity leads to injuries and worn joints. I can't tell you how many people over 65 who need joint replacements. Mine are fine.
Hypertrophy must trigger the release of growth hormone and so there are benefits naturally without needing a prescription. Older guys don't say they are using hormones but just replacing chemicals.
That isn't what I want to do. The only pills I take are aspirin and that is very rarely.
My arms and calves are hard. Sure I am carrying some safety fat but I am solid where it counts. The waist is another thing. That is where adipose tissue stores on men and not so easy to remove.
You can do biking and swimming for endurance training. I think the beneficial effects on the brain and cardiovascular system are too large to ignore. It stimulates neurogenesis, synaptogenesis and angiogenesis as well as intracellular processes in the brain and has been shown to enhance cognition.
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Resistance weight training triggers hgh in the body and that in itself is anti aging. It prevents bones from becoming brittle. Circulates everything which in itself carries vitamins and nutrients around the body.
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I can see little or no benefits for endurance training. To me that sort of activity leads to injuries and worn joints. I can't tell you how many people over 65 who need joint replacements. Mine are fine.
Hypertrophy must trigger the release of growth hormone and so there are benefits naturally without needing a prescription. Older guys don't say they are using hormones but just replacing chemicals.
That isn't what I want to do. The only pills I take are aspirin and that is very rarely.
My arms and calves are hard. Sure I am carrying some safety fat but I am solid where it counts. The waist is another thing. That is where adipose tissue stores on men and not so easy to remove.
You seem like you are making excuses for your inability to lose body fat from certain areas. From the photo's of you I've seen here, you are carrying around a fair amount of what most would consider unhealthy body fat. Maybe it is healthy for men of a certain age to be a little overweight, especially in the gut. I happen to think otherwise.
Regardless of how fat and out of shape you appear in your photos, you probably have a base of muscularity and strength. In as much as you and I are about the same age, I hope this means you are healthier then the average Joe. For my money, I am going to go with the leaner is better philosophy when in comes to senior citizens like us.
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Resistance weight training triggers hgh in the body and that in itself is anti aging. It prevents bones from becoming brittle. Circulates everything which in itself carries vitamins and nutrients around the body.
Yes, I think all older people, especially the frail older ladies should start doing weight training. There are actually several studies that shows increases in bone density, as you say, and most importantly: it facilitates ADL (activities of daily living) and the ability of seniors to live independently for a longer time.
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Please conduct yourself as if in a group of post graduates. Silly arguments have no currency here. What you?
Ok, I'll admit i smiled a little from this...
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You seem like you are making excuses for your inability to lose body fat from certain areas. From the photo's of you I've seen here, you are carrying around a fair amount of what most would consider unhealthy body fat. Maybe it is healthy for men of a certain age to be a little overweight, especially in the gut. I happen to think otherwise.
I think the only time that fat is healthy, is if you get cancer and loss of apetite as a consequence. There are some studies showing higher survival in slightly overweight people. My worry regarding Vince Basile, would of course be cardiovascular disease, common in those older men with apple-shaped torso.
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You seem like you are making excuses for your inability to lose body fat from certain areas. From the photo's of you I've seen here, you are carrying around a fair amount of what most would consider unhealthy body fat. Maybe it is healthy for men of a certain age to be a little overweight, especially in the gut. I happen to think otherwise.
Regardless of how fat and out of shape you appear in your photos, you probably have a base of muscularity and strength. In as much as you and I are about the same age, I hope this means you are healthier then the average Joe. For my money, I am going to go with the leaner is better philosophy when in comes to senior citizens like us.
No one wants to be fat. Well, very few do. The rest of us abhor adipose tissue and bodybuilders especially do. So how come some of us add weight as we age. We change our interests and activity and there is little motivation to lose fat. At the beach one can now wear a top to prevent skin cancers and board shorts cover up the rest. When I was young I, too, vowed not to be heavy in old age. It isn't so easy. You will find that most older people are not very active. Some have mobility problems. We tend to do less to save ourselves the effort. Thus, it is easy to add weight and especially because our metabolism slows down. Sure, we know what to do but where to get the energy from. The damn internet robs us all of countless hours where we could be doing something more productive. I am into photography so spend hours and hours editing photos.
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No one wants to be fat. Well, very few do. The rest of us abhor adipose tissue and bodybuilders especially do. So how come some of us add weight as we age. We change our interests and activity and there is little motivation to lose fat. At the beach one can now wear a top to prevent skin cancers and board shorts cover up the rest. When I was young I, too, vowed not to be heavy in old age. It isn't so easy. You will find that most older people are not very active. Some have mobility problems. We tend to do less to save ourselves the effort. Thus, it is easy to add weight and especially because our metabolism slows down. Sure, we know what to do but where to get the energy from. The damn internet robs us all of countless hours where we could be doing something more productive. I am into photography so spend hours and hours editing photos.
"we this and we that.." Why not speak for yourself and get in a better shape, mr permabulking expert?
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"we this and we that.." Why not speak for yourself and get in a better shape, mr permabulking expert?
agree 100%
old fart should attend masters BB categories at 1 of local organizations contest & see shape of gay's in 60/70's
nobody give a shit about his photo editing
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agree 100%
old fart should attend masters BB categories at 1 of local organizations contest & see shape of gay's in 60/70's
nobody give a shit about his photo editing
At least he has a hobby, which is good. The same applies to sharing experiences, but why the hell on earth is he bitching & complaining about others all the time? The most silly thing are those purple stars. There are much more Getbiggers without those stars, who did a show or are still competing. Do they complain? No, they don't care.
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He want last on Raw Iron site 4 too long :D
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No, I don't have the same amount of muscle I had when I competed. However, my calves are bigger now. My arms are not far behind and if I were to train them consistently they would equal what I had in the past. Losing fat is a far more daunting consideration.
Your calves are bigger because of the fat that is surrounding them. Want proof of that claim? Look at ANY obese person. They have bigger calves than some pros. Losing fat is not daunting. Its called watch what you eat. You go on and on about research of hypertrophy but yet you haven't looked at any regarding caloric control. Why not practice that? Oh wait, all this will be disregarded because I hide behind my screenname. ::)
Seriously Vince....why are you so fat??
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Maybe he can perform the photo editing on an iPad while doing cardio.
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Your calves are bigger because of the fat that is surrounding them. Want proof of that claim? Look at ANY obese person. They have bigger calves than some pros. Losing fat is not daunting. Its called watch what you eat. You go on and on about research of hypertrophy but yet you haven't looked at any regarding caloric control. Why not practice that? Oh wait, all this will be disregarded because I hide behind my screenname. ::)
Seriously Vince....why are you so fat??
What do you know? Almost nothing about fat people. My calves are not fat but solid. Fat people get big calves because when they move about it is like doing training.
Why are you people so obsessed with how others look? You should worry more about your personalilty and intellect.
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What do you know? Almost nothing about fat people. My calves are not fat but solid. Fat people get big calves because when they move about it is like doing training.
Why are you people so obsessed with how others look? You should worry more about your personalilty and intellect.
So says Mr Flotsam ::)
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What do you know? Almost nothing about fat people. My calves are not fat but solid. Fat people get big calves because when they move about it is like doing training.
Why are you people so obsessed with how others look? You should worry more about your personalilty and intellect.
why did you compete in body building if your appearance is of no concern to you
and why are you defending the way your calves look
you are contradicting yourself
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No one wants to be fat. Well, very few do. The rest of us abhor adipose tissue and bodybuilders especially do. So how come some of us add weight as we age. We change our interests and activity and there is little motivation to lose fat. At the beach one can now wear a top to prevent skin cancers and board shorts cover up the rest. When I was young I, too, vowed not to be heavy in old age. It isn't so easy. You will find that most older people are not very active. Some have mobility problems. We tend to do less to save ourselves the effort. Thus, it is easy to add weight and especially because our metabolism slows down. Sure, we know what to do but where to get the energy from. The damn internet robs us all of countless hours where we could be doing something more productive. I am into photography so spend hours and hours editing photos.
this is very true. just the other Day i trained two female Doctors together. They said they started tai chi but Need to lose weight and work on their Fitness. They were both middle 40s and very intelligent but this just Shows that even Doctors who know about health risks get overweight as they Age. Also i have trained a lot of People who work as Nurses looking after old People, most have back Problems due to the Job. It´s easy for Young guys here to judge older People. I agree with Vince´s post.
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Whining? Get a life. People attack the person instead of interacting with them. Chaos found that out. It is your attitude that causes you to be so hostile. I can see little point in discussing bodybuilding sets and reps. Everyone here is already expert enough and wouldn't listen to what I have to say so it is a complete waste of my time.
What chaos found is that you won't reveal your theory to be scrutinized so that only leaves the person.
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What chaos found is that you won't reveal your theory to be scrutinized so that only leaves the person.
Nicely put. Back to you, Kangaroo Jack.
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I have no obligation to repost my theories. I think the archives were lost when Ron had a virus in the system and heaps of data was never recovered. What a shame.
The lads here wouldn't believe what I tell them anyway. I might as well talk to a wall.
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What do you know? Almost nothing about fat people. My calves are not fat but solid. Fat people get big calves because when they move about it is like doing training.
Why are you people so obsessed with how others look? You should worry more about your personalilty and intellect.
Do you consider these strengths of yours?
On a related note, why do you consider yourself a scientist? What are your credentials in this regard? Do you use the scientific method?
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does anyone remember the put an inch on your arm in 4 weeks programme he embarked on
using his much vaunted bicep machine that quickly died a death
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does anyone remember the put an inch on your arm in 4 weeks programme he embarked on
using his much vaunted bicep machine that quickly died a death
That machine has great value - it's going to provide enough spare parts to keep all the clocks in the world running for a good part of the next century. Leave it be.
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That machine has great value - it's going to provide enough spare parts to keep all the clocks in the world running for a good part of the next century. Leave it be.
can you imagine the instructions that come with that fucker
assembly time two years
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does anyone remember the put an inch on your arm in 4 weeks programme he embarked on
using his much vaunted bicep machine that quickly died a death
It trains flexion AND supination! As if nobody ever thought to supinate their hands while curling dumbbells
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Do you consider these strengths of yours?
On a related note, why do you consider yourself a scientist? What are your credentials in this regard? Do you use the scientific method?
LOL. No matter what I say it isn't good enough. What you guys?
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LOL. No matter what I say it isn't good enough. What you guys?
You like to think this is a board populated by buffoons who don't know what they're talking about. It's actually one of the more intelligent groups of posters that I've ever come across. There are a lot of really knowledgable folks here, either through education or experience or both, MDs, PhDs, people who literally train athletes for living, people who have built great physiques, etc.
You on the other hand do nothing but insult people and crow about how superior you think you are and have nothing to defend your claims with other than more insults.
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LOL. No matter what I say it isn't good enough. What you guys?
It's mostly your personality that sucks*, or at least your "e-personality", but you're prob too old and stubborn to fix this.
Maybe next life better..
*hint: stop abusing the same words/phases over and over again.
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I don't know why you guys waste your time with this asshole... No matter what you say, or how you say it... You can be respectful or you can rip into him and the answer is the same. " Aaaahhh..you morons don't know anything"
Waste of bandwidth. Bitter old man.
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LoL. The resident good guys have no trouble pointing out the limitations of others. What gives any of you the moral right to bag anyone at all? I see little evidence of educated discussions here.
You are only Flotsam if you want to be! What you! Most of you guys don't get my sense of humour at all. That is funny.
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can you imagine the instructions that come with that fucker
assembly time two years
Are you saying that if they included all the politically correct alternate languages, Lee Priest could stand on it and actually reach the light switch?
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I have no obligation to repost my theories. I think the archives were lost when Ron had a virus in the system and heaps of data was never recovered. What a shame.
The lads here wouldn't believe what I tell them anyway. I might as well talk to a wall.
In other words...you're full of hot air and shit.
Carry on then.
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Goodrum has blue stars, Basile does not.
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Are you saying that if they included all the politically correct alternate languages, Lee Priest could stand on it and actually reach the light switch?
what im saying is that there are so many parts to vince's machine the postage and packaging is 10k
and the instructions are a trilogy
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and the instructions are a trilogy
;D ;D ;D ;D
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Imbasile has only got the blues...
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I have no obligation to repost my theories. I think the archives were lost when Ron had a virus in the system and heaps of data was never recovered. What a shame.
The lads here wouldn't believe what I tell them anyway. I might as well talk to a wall.
Ha! You never, ever once fully explained what they were even when continually pressed to do so by VanB. You just hemmed and hawed for page after page. You're truly a mess. Sad, really.
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You have to choose, weekend at Basile's house or weekend at Goodrum's?
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You have to choose, weekend at Basile's house or weekend at Goodrum's?
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Can I bring a loaded gun?
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Goodrum is younger than Basile and has blue stars.
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You have to choose, weekend at Basile's house or weekend at Goodrum's?
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One is a fucking asshole. The other might try to fuck your asshole.
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Goodrum is younger than Basile and has blue stars.
But who has the best life insurance?
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One is a fucking asshole. The other might try to fuck your asshole.
Its does beg the question, does one see blue stars when around a fucking asshole or when getting fucked in the asshole?
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But who has the best life insurance?
It doesnt matter when you are dead you are dead. To hell with the left over.
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It doesnt matter when you are dead you are dead. To hell with the left over.
That's true, but before I can answer Roger's question, it does.
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somebody should offer themselves to vince so he can train them, follow his diet and training routines for a few months and lets see if there is a difference this should put all arguments to rest.
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somebody should offer themselves to vince so he can train them, follow his diet and training routines for a few months and lets see if there is a difference this should put all arguments to rest.
i never see any constructive Posts from you Kermit. just fucking shit.
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One is a fucking asshole. The other might try to fuck your asshole.
ROFL!!!!!!!! x100000000000000000
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i never see any constructive Posts from you Kermit. just fucking shit.
hahahahhaa look who is talking the king troll of getbig.
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hahahahhaa look who is talking the king troll of getbig.
listen i will now Change my Name to "the Dude" ;)
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How was possible that Weider let such colosal "talent" like Vincenzo let go un-noticed :o
Just imagine VB's as editor of Joe's mag ???
Unimaginable loss to BB history :'( :'( :'(
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No one wants to be fat. Well, very few do. The rest of us abhor adipose tissue and bodybuilders especially do. So how come some of us add weight as we age. We change our interests and activity and there is little motivation to lose fat. At the beach one can now wear a top to prevent skin cancers and board shorts cover up the rest. When I was young I, too, vowed not to be heavy in old age. It isn't so easy. You will find that most older people are not very active. Some have mobility problems. We tend to do less to save ourselves the effort. Thus, it is easy to add weight and especially because our metabolism slows down. Sure, we know what to do but where to get the energy from. The damn internet robs us all of countless hours where we could be doing something more productive. I am into photography so spend hours and hours editing photos.
Some of us are lucky to have good genetics when it comes to not getting fat. Like you, I am not as active as I once was, my metabolism has decreased. To compensate, I eat a lot less then I did when I was younger. Fortunately, I have not grown fat over the years. Most days I eat breakfast and dinner, skipping lunch. Today I had some lunch though. I picked up a small container of Quinoa, tomato and feta salad at the market on the way home from physical therapy. I try to eat healthy foods as much as possible. I am 5'10 1/2" @ 200 lbs. with a 34" waist. Presently I am somewhat out of shape due to the fact that I am recovering from knee surgery. Getting old sucks sometimes. I am hoping to get back into my normal workout routine soon. I don't go real heavy and I do a lot of sets and reps. I've been big and that was fine. I don't have any desire to get big again.
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How was possible that Weider let such colosal "talent" like Vincenzo let go un-noticed :o
Just imagine VB's as editor of Joe's mag ???Unimaginable loss to BB history :'( :'( :'(
The angry man's guide to fitness! In this issue:
- Vince's Black Cloud of Embittered Wrath Workout.
- Put 1" on your calves through obesity.
- Being an expert. No credentials? No stars? No problem!
Now with twice the vituperation!
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LOL at Basile's use of the words "safety fat"...There is no such thing...Anyone over the age of 50 with the amount of fat Basile has on his body is most likely a type II Diabetic or at the very least borderline. And what comes with that is stress kidneys and water retention which will with a measuring tape show a bigger calve and bicep...Clean up your diet Basile.
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Some of us are lucky to have good genetics when it comes to not getting fat. Like you, I am not as active as I once was, my metabolism has decreased. To compensate, I eat a lot less then I did when I was younger. Fortunately, I have not grown fat over the years. Most days I eat breakfast and dinner, skipping lunch. Today I had some lunch though. I picked up a small container of Quinoa, tomato and feta salad at the market on the way home from physical therapy. I try to eat healthy foods as much as possible. I am 5'10 1/2" @ 200 lbs. with a 34" waist. Presently I am somewhat out of shape due to the fact that I am recovering from knee surgery. Getting old sucks sometimes. I am hoping to get back into my normal workout routine soon. I don't go real heavy and I do a lot of sets and reps. I've been big and that was fine. I don't have any desire to get big again.
Getting older has its limitations. Sooner or later we all start falling apart or have diminished capacities. The knees don't last on many people which is a pity. Long ago I learned when teaching PE that impacts on hard surfaces made my knees sore. The solution was to avoid running or playing sport on hard surfaces and to wear sports shoes that have cushioning. That wasn't so easy in the old days because Adidas and other manufacturers didn't make them for cushioning. I never run on the street because of the hard surfaces and because going downhill is a killer for the knees. In the sixties even university PE people believed that full squats were bad for the knees. The study they based that idea on was flawed but people were doing half squats in those days. That was lunacy. I didn't see weight lifters with bad knees and they went low with huge weights. Jumping down off platforms at work can do damage. Squats actually help build up the knees. I always do full squats as deep as possible.
34 in waist at your height and weight is doing well. So, do you find you can build muscle or not?
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LOL at Basile's use of the words "safety fat"...There is no such thing...Anyone over the age of 50 with the amount of fat Basile has on his body is most likely a type II Diabetic or at the very least borderline. And what comes with that is stress kidneys and water retention which will with a measuring tape show a bigger calve and bicep...Clean up your diet Basile.
Haven't you heard of a sense of humour? In the gym no one is fat. They are merely bulky or off season. Safety fat is a concept that came from bodybuilders. The idea was to keep about 10 pounds over a lean condition just in case you got really sick. That way you didn't lose too much body mass and lost some fat instead. Smart move.
My health is fine. Diabetes or heart disease are to be avoided if possible but they do not run in my family.
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Getting older has its limitations. Sooner or later we all start falling apart or have diminished capacities. The knees don't last on many people which is a pity. Long ago I learned when teaching PE that impacts on hard surfaces made my knees sore. The solution was to avoid running or playing sport on hard surfaces and to wear sports shoes that have cushioning. That wasn't so easy in the old days because Adidas and other manufacturers didn't make them for cushioning. I never run on the street because of the hard surfaces and because going downhill is a killer for the knees. In the sixties even university PE people believed that full squats were bad for the knees. The study they based that idea on was flawed but people were doing half squats in those days. That was lunacy. I didn't see weight lifters with bad knees and they went low with huge weights. Jumping down off platforms at work can do damage. Squats actually help build up the knees. I always do full squats as deep as possible.
34 in waist at your height and weight is doing well. So, do you find you can build muscle or not?
I've been advised by someone very highly educated and whose career centers on knee replacements that stress on the joint increases sharply past 90 degrees.
I gotta run tho so we'll have to skip the Big Debate. Just putting it out there.
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Getting older has its limitations. Sooner or later we all start falling apart or have diminished capacities. The knees don't last on many people which is a pity. Long ago I learned when teaching PE that impacts on hard surfaces made my knees sore. The solution was to avoid running or playing sport on hard surfaces and to wear sports shoes that have cushioning. That wasn't so easy in the old days because Adidas and other manufacturers didn't make them for cushioning. I never run on the street because of the hard surfaces and because going downhill is a killer for the knees. In the sixties even university PE people believed that full squats were bad for the knees. The study they based that idea on was flawed but people were doing half squats in those days. That was lunacy. I didn't see weight lifters with bad knees and they went low with huge weights. Jumping down off platforms at work can do damage. Squats actually help build up the knees. I always do full squats as deep as possible.
34 in waist at your height and weight is doing well. So, do you find you can build muscle or not?
To answer your question, yes I can build muscle and have. My arms tend to top out at 17 1/4" when I work them regularly. My quads are a lot less responsive than they once were to weight training although my legs are strong. I suspect the fact that I have short legs helps as opposed to the fact that I have long arms which poses a problem for me when doing bench presses. This is also why my biceps are hard to develop as opposed the my triceps which come along nicely.
I did very little exercise of the type you mention. I did do some running on hard surfaces when I was much younger, like in my 20's and 30's. I have also long been an avid bicyclist. Riding a bicycle is low impact though. The knee surgery I recently had was for a torn meniscus. I have no idea how or when I tore it. I just know it hurt like shit. To hopefully help me build new cushioning, the orthopedist preformed micro-fracture surgery while he was already in there. It was all arthroscopic surgery which is minimally invasive. I've been told that it takes up to a year to fully recover from micro-fracture surgery. It has only been about 8 weeks since the surgery. I was on crutches for nearly a month.
As do a lot of folks as they age, I have arthritis. It is in my knees and my spine mostly. I have a little bit in my hands. I've heard that resistance training is beneficial in staving off the effects of arthritis. Let's hope this is true, because weight training is my favorite form of exercise.
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To answer your question, yes I can build muscle and have. My arms tend to top out at 17 1/4" when I work them regularly. My quads are a lot less responsive than they once were to weight training although my legs are strong. I suspect the fact that I have short legs helps as opposed to the fact that I have long arms which poses a problem for me when doing bench presses. This is also why my biceps are hard to develop as opposed the my triceps which come along nicely.
I did very little exercise of the type you mention. I did do some running on hard surfaces when I was much younger, like in my 20's and 30's. I have also long been an avid bicyclist. Riding a bicycle is low impact though. The knee surgery I recently had was for a torn meniscus. I have no idea how or when I tore it. I just know it hurt like shit. To hopefully help me build new cushioning, the orthopedist preformed micro-fracture surgery while he was already in there. It was all arthroscopic surgery which is minimally invasive. I've been told that it takes up to a year to fully recover from micro-fracture surgery. It has only been about 8 weeks since the surgery. I was on crutches for nearly a month.
As do a lot of folks as they age, I have arthritis. It is in my knees and my spine mostly. I have a little bit in my hands. I've heard that resistance training is beneficial in staving off the effects of arthritis. Let's hope this is true, because weight training is my favorite form of exercise.
I wonder about torn connective tissue. The weakest link idea probably applies there. So many people have problems with their knees. In Australia they have a woman's game called netball. The gals stop suddenly all the time and often play on road like surfaces. Many end up needing knee surgery. Who knows when the damage is done or if things accumulate over the years.
Arthritis is another thing that is a worry. I am more or less free of that but my fingers do feel stiff at times. Who doesn't have a sore back from time to time! At 20 we feel invincible and don't listen to stories about the dangers of lifting weights. I paid the price because I tore my right biceps doing a 509 pound deadlift when I was about 35. Curses. I never could totally straighten my arms so maybe that contributed. Nowadays I tell people to avoid dead lifts and never do less than 5 reps. They don't listen. If Ronnie Coleman does them then they do them. Lunacy. You would think that guys like me with 55 years experience bodybuilding would be listened to but muscleheads use their own brains which is foolhardy.
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One is a fucking asshole. The other might try to fuck your asshole.
What the fuck did you just fucking say, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
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What the fuck did you just fucking say, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
and when you woke up,the bed was all wet of piss stains
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vince is a 70+ year old permafasto.
think about this,permabulkers.
safety fat.
i see canckles
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The women my age consider that I am a fine figure of a man. There you are, a granny magnet!
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Goodrum has blue stars.
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What the fuck did you just fucking say, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
lol ;D
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There is a substantial reward to bring in these assholes, dead or alive! Goatboy was first and now for the rest of the sordid flotsam. I mean business and you will be eliminated one by one.
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There is a substantial reward to bring in these assholes, dead or alive! Goatboy was first and now for the rest of the sordid flotsam. I mean business and you will be eliminated one by one.
Goodrum has bigger arms than you.
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Mr Nobody, you are at the top of my list for your constant stalking and putdowns. I will hunt you down and rip out your ribs with my bare hands. You will never know what hit you so avoid walking anywhere on your own. Expect retribution any day now you scumbag! I might start by breaking your right arm. Then you will have to use your left hand to wipe your ass. If that humiliates you or is difficult then recruit your bum chum Goodrum who will be happy to oblige! What you.
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What do you know? Almost nothing about fat people. My calves are not fat but solid. Fat people get big calves because when they move about it is like doing training.
Why are you people so obsessed with how others look? You should worry more about your personalilty and intellect.
What do I know? I fuck ton more than you. Yes, your calves are solid. What is the caliper pinch say? Whats your skin fold there Vincette?
Why am I obsessed with how others look? I am not. Just wondering why you talk so much shit yet have the physique of a beached whale.
I could run circles around you intellectually...don't put it old man. You couldn't answer the questions Vince. Why are you so fat? Why are you well into the 20% bodyfat range?
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I have no obligation to repost my theories. I think the archives were lost when Ron had a virus in the system and heaps of data was never recovered. What a shame.
The lads here wouldn't believe what I tell them anyway. I might as well talk to a wall.
Follow up question....do you smell as bad as you look in your profile? I suspect you smell like moth balls.
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What do I know? I fuck ton more than you. Yes, your calves are solid. What is the caliper pinch say? Whats your skin fold there Vincette?
Why am I obsessed with how others look? I am not. Just wondering why you talk so much shit yet have the physique of a beached whale.
I could run circles around you intellectually...don't put it old man. You couldn't answer the questions Vince. Why are you so fat? Why are you well into the 20% bodyfat range?
Sometimes pretending to be simple will defeat a clever opponent. I will play chess with you any day.
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There is a substantial reward to bring in these assholes, dead or alive! Goatboy was first and now for the rest of the sordid flotsam. I mean business and you will be eliminated one by one.
Goatboy did himself in, had nothing at all to do with you. ::)
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Follow up question....do you smell as bad as you look in your profile? I suspect you smell like moth balls.
What the fuck did you just fucking say, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
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Goatboy did himself in, had nothing at all to do with you. ::)
the Video ??
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Sometimes pretending to be simple will defeat a clever opponent. I will play chess with you any day.
If only you were pretending...
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Goatboy did himself in, had nothing at all to do with you. ::)
Goatboy had class and a good brain. Wonder if he still posts here? I don't recognize him if he is here.
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If only you were pretending...
Chaos, stop posturing. You would be delighted to tag along and pick up wisdom along the way.
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Mr Nobody, you are at the top of my list for your constant stalking and putdowns. I will hunt you down and rip out your ribs with my bare hands. You will never know what hit you so avoid walking anywhere on your own. Expect retribution any day now you scumbag! I might start by breaking your right arm. Then you will have to use your left hand to wipe your ass. If that humiliates you or is difficult then recruit your bum chum Goodrum who will be happy to oblige! What you.
Can I be next on the list? Plllllllllllllllllllllll lleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase?
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Vince....why are you so fat if you know so much?
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Chaos your Video of your lifts ?
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Chaos, stop posturing. You would be delighted to tag along and pick up wisdom along the way.
You've shown no knowledge or experiences that would lead me to believe you have anything to offer.
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You've shown no knowledge or experiences that would lead me to believe you have anything to offer.
I would start by showing you how to pick up chicks so you would have somewhere to go instead of loitering on Getbig all day long.
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What do I know? I fuck ton more than you. Yes, your calves are solid. What is the caliper pinch say? Whats your skin fold there Vincette?
Why am I obsessed with how others look? I am not. Just wondering why you talk so much shit yet have the physique of a beached whale.
I could run circles around you intellectually...don't put it old man. You couldn't answer the questions Vince. Why are you so fat? Why are you well into the 20% bodyfat range?
Krankenstein you are no Einstein or even a Wittgenstein. Just a wannabe bloke with failing self esteem. You try to compensate by targeting others with your simple drivel.
Nice try but you impress the simpleminded Flotsam and hardly someone like me.
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I would start by showing you how to pick up chicks so you would have somewhere to go instead of loitering on Getbig all day long.
Offer them some candy, grab and throw them in the back of your van?
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What the fuck did you just fucking say, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
wow...
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Vince....why are you so fat if you know so much?
I just trained arms. They feel like solid steel when I flex them. What you?
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I just trained arms. They feel like solid steel when I flex them. What you?
How's your dinker working at age 76 bro?
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Offer them some candy, grab and throw them in the back of your van?
I have become something of a reverse hero on Getbig. When the defeated and humiliated have to resort to the lowest putdowns that means something.
Use your brain and come up with something original instead of that lame idea. I must say I would never own a van, though! ;D
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How's your dinker working at age 76 bro?
I come from a virile line of Italians. My mum had 10 kids so everything is fine with the machinery. Nice of you to be concerned.
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I come from a virile line of Italians. My mum had 10 kids so everything is fine with the machinery. Nice of you to be concerned.
Mio fratello :D
Sounds like your mother was quite the the ole chassy cat.
Keep us posted on your skinny mini status bro.
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I have become something of a reverse hero on Getbig. When the defeated and humiliated have to resort to the lowest putdowns that means something.
Use your brain and come up with something original instead of that lame idea. I must say I would never own a van, though! ;D
There was a question mark at the end of the sentence. I was simply looking for clarification.
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Mio fratello :D
Sounds like your mother was quite the the ole chassy cat.
Keep us posted on your skinny mini status bro.
stu cazzo...
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Mio fratello :D
Sounds like your mother was quite the the ole chassy cat.
Keep us posted on your skinny mini status bro.
My mum left 7 children and went off to live with another guy when I just turned 13. No wonder I have been divorced. I like women too much.
My dad was a prince of a guy. Simple, intelligent and a gentleman. Mum died last December aged 95 and Dad died in 87 aged 90.
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What the fuck did you just fucking say, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
haha, basile trolling with 4chan material.
respect level just went up a notch.
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I come from a virile line of Italians. My mum had 10 kids so everything is fine with the machinery. Nice of you to be concerned.
Your also the only adult driver in your neighborhood who doesn't break the speed limit in the school zones so kudos
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Goatboy had class and a good brain. Wonder if he still posts here? I don't recognize him if he is here.
Pretty sure Goatboy was Ron's gimmick. One of the best posters of all time...
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I just trained arms. They feel like solid steel when I flex them. What you?
Ooooooooooooooo you just trained arms.
Why are you do fat? You seem to not have the intellect to address the question properly?
Metabolic disorder?
Hypothyroid?
Eat too much?
Boat loads of corticosteroids?
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Pretty sure Goatboy was Ron's gimmick. One of the best posters of all time...
Goatboy claimed he was from Texas and that could be right. How do I know? Well, he once stayed at a hotel in Orange county and wondered what the heck those fireworks were at 9pm. LA locals would know they were at Disneyland. I was there in 1980 and that is what we saw.
Goatboy took on Bob Chick over egg white supplements and Bob never recovered. Next thing Bob got the boot from Bodybuilding.com and Goatboy was in timeout.
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I would start by showing you how to pick up chicks so you would have somewhere to go instead of loitering on Getbig all day long.
By "chicks" you actually mean teenage boy tourists don't you?
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stu cazzo...
We knew cazzo duro. Dad didn't teach us much Italian. He did teach us to count up to 10 and told us lots of great stories from Italian literature. He told us a story about a young hero called 13 who
captured Super Trolley. We always wondered who that Trolley was. A few years ago it occurred to me he meant Troll! He captured the Troll by pretending to be dumb and recruited him to help him
build a strong cage to capture the villain. When the Troll was inside the cage checking for weak spots the openings were sealed and the Troll captured. Nice trick. Same deal works here on the Flotsam.
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By "chicks" you actually mean teenage boy tourists don't you?
Is there some Getbig hero reward for the first person who thinks he has owned me?
I am divorced for adultery. I am just like Arnold in that way. There is no cure for the disorder called gym owners disease.
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Is there some Getbig hero reward for the first person who thinks he has owned me?
I am divorced for adultery. I am just like Arnold in that way. There is no cure for the disorder called gym owners disease.
Every one of your blue star-free, colored font posts, is the ultimate owning of you by King Ron Avidan.
He's teabagging you from half a world away.
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Is there some Getbig hero reward for the first person who thinks he has owned me?
I am divorced for adultery. I am just like Arnold in that way. There is no cure for the disorder called gym owners disease.
ahhh caligula...goomba..
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The women my age consider that I am a fine figure of a man. There you are, a granny magnet!
Those oldies must be very short sighted & doped by nursing home staff.
When will U finally realized that you a old bold fat fart.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
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What the fuck did you just fucking say, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
Oh , another Dementia attack ??????????
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What the fuck did you just fucking say, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
I will assume that you are joking Vince because its the most idiotic post I have read in a long time.
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I would start by showing you how to pick up chicks so you would have somewhere to go instead of loitering on Getbig all day long.
Super newz, name any of Sydney's Northern beaches as yours supposed chicks pick up grounds ?.
How about those sporty Olympian girls at Manly beach ;D, (time & date )& I'll be there to observe ;D
Or perhaps South Curly SLSC surfing ladies, Manly hotel is another 5* pick up spot on Fridays/Saturdays
night, time & date Vincenzo.
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-Fitness 1st, Dee Why top young moms location !.
-Fitness 1st, Mosman, rich & good looking pussy gym.
-North Sydney PCYC,Police lesbians training area, how about seducing 1 of them Vincenzo ;D
& don't piss off any of those Riot cops, or MP's they'll gang boxing bang you.
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Vincent you should focus on picking up a set of dumbells. ;)
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Vincent you should focus on picking up a set of dumbells. ;)
instead of being one..
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My mum left 7 children and went off to live with another guy when I just turned 13. No wonder I have been divorced. I like women too much.
My dad was a prince of a guy. Simple, intelligent and a gentleman. Mum died last December aged 95 and Dad died in 87 aged 90.
Any members of Gamora,Cosa Nostra or Mafia in yours familia ;D
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Any members of Gamora,Cosa Nostra or Mafia in yours familia ;D
don basile..
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instead of being one..
Yes, exactly!
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Vincent you should focus on picking up a set of dumbells. ;)
Only if Roz let him in her half of the gym ;D
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Is Vince trolling?
Or has A23 hacked this flotsam's account?
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Vincent you should focus on picking up a set of dumbells. ;)
I seldom use free weights but am training again. It won't be long before I am ready for Bondi.
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I seldom use free weights but am training again. It won't be long before I am ready for Bondi.
Free weights are where it's at. Bondi beach is dirty and over crowded. I would never go there. I like the secluded beaches with raw natural beauty.
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I have become something of a reverse hero on Getbig. When the defeated and humiliated have to resort to the lowest putdowns that means something.
Use your brain and come up with something original instead of that lame idea. I must say I would never own a van, though! ;D
I own a van. >:(
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Mr Nobody, you are at the top of my list for your constant stalking and putdowns. I will hunt you down and rip out your ribs with my bare hands. You will never know what hit you so avoid walking anywhere on your own. Expect retribution any day now you scumbag! I might start by breaking your right arm. Then you will have to use your left hand to wipe your ass. If that humiliates you or is difficult then recruit your bum chum Goodrum who will be happy to oblige! What you.
Grandpa LOL Goodrum is my bodyguard lives not far from here he will take you out if he fails, have you ever heard of a sawed off shotgun it is my backup got it sitting right by door I assume I'll see you tomorrow?
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Imbasile has only got the blues...
So is this why Vince Basille always posts in blue?
To draw attention to the fact that he never received blue stars from Ron?!
hahahaha
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Your calves are bigger because of the fat that is surrounding them. Want proof of that claim? Look at ANY obese person. They have bigger calves than some pros. Losing fat is not daunting. Its called watch what you eat. You go on and on about research of hypertrophy but yet you haven't looked at any regarding caloric control. Why not practice that? Oh wait, all this will be disregarded because I hide behind my screenname. ::)
Seriously Vince....why are you so fat??
Seriously, krankenfuck, why are you so childish, if you are "succesfull doctor"? Why you are living your life trough this forum, clearly not working at all, and why do you have time for these messages, which proves that you are just imbecile teenage bully? You surely doesn't have been spilling your medical knowledge here, while you have write 6500 messages just in this area. Seriously, are you mentally OK? It seem to me you may have some issues ;D
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I seldom use free weights but am training again. It won't be long before I am ready for Bondi.
Gay section on Bondi beach ;D
But NOT for North Bondi outdoor gym ;D
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EVERY BODY HATE YOU VINCE!!!
getbiggers who agree with me please confirm
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I wonder about torn connective tissue. The weakest link idea probably applies there. So many people have problems with their knees. In Australia they have a woman's game called netball. The gals stop suddenly all the time and often play on road like surfaces. Many end up needing knee surgery. Who knows when the damage is done or if things accumulate over the years.
Arthritis is another thing that is a worry. I am more or less free of that but my fingers do feel stiff at times. Who doesn't have a sore back from time to time! At 20 we feel invincible and don't listen to stories about the dangers of lifting weights. I paid the price because I tore my right biceps doing a 509 pound deadlift when I was about 35. Curses. I never could totally straighten my arms so maybe that contributed. Nowadays I tell people to avoid dead lifts and never do less than 5 reps. They don't listen. If Ronnie Coleman does them then they do them. Lunacy. You would think that guys like me with 55 years experience bodybuilding would be listened to but muscleheads use their own brains which is foolhardy.
I spent a lot of my adult life trying to overcome my twink teenage body. For reasons I cannot explain, I don't think I ever went crazy lifting poundage that my body was not built to safely lift. I spent years trying to fulfill the dream of being huge. I never achieved this goal really, although I had a moment when it seemed like I had when I was 29 years old.
There are a lot of theories as to what causes arthritis. I have not heard or read anything which suggests it is caused by lifting weights. Everything I've read suggests that weight resistance exercises actually decrease the negative affects of arthritis.
As for my torn meniscus, I believe it was absolutely not caused by lifting. I have been fortunate in that I have always went for strict and clean lifts over heavy sloppy ones. I have reached the conclusion that it is simply a result of being old. As we age, things break down. Apparently my meniscus could be one of these breakdowns. Interestingly, I once suffered knee damage when I was still a teenager and was dancing, doing the twist. I popped my knee out and immediately popped it back in. The next day it was ridiculously swollen and sore. As do most young folks I easily recovered from this injury. I suspect it is no coincidence that this is the same knee that I recently had surgery on.
I suspect you have been much more devoted to bodybuilding then I have been. While I had goals to overcome my early twink build, I never aspired to be a competitive bodybuilder. I have always been something of a health nut though. I think this approach to lifting has served me well for the most part.
If you read through my posts, you will discover that I am currently on HRT. I have no doubt this contributes to the success of my retaining something resembling a youthful and masculine physique. Like with everything in my life, I approach HRT with moderation. Needless to say, I am not shooting huge amounts of test every week, just 200 mg.
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EVERY BODY HATE YOU VINCE!!!
getbiggers who agree with me please confirm
Jesus and Arce might love him
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Jesus and Arce might love him
are you saying arce is the second coming of christ ???
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are you saying arce is the second coming of christ ???
No, but both* are altruistic people.
* Jesus is just a creation.
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Seriously, krankenfuck, why are you so childish, if you are "succesfull doctor"? Why you are living your life trough this forum, clearly not working at all, and why do you have time for these messages, which proves that you are just imbecile teenage bully? You surely doesn't have been spilling your medical knowledge here, while you have write 6500 messages just in this area. Seriously, are you mentally OK? It seem to me you may have some issues ;D
You again? What does "You sure doesn't have been" mean? There is no way I could write 6500 messages in this area thanks to Ron's bull shit "its only been 29 seconds since your last post" warning.
Oh, and no...I am not mentally ok. Is that ok with you?
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So is this why Vince Basille always posts in blue?
To draw attention to the fact that he never received blue stars from Ron?!
hahahaha
I never post with blue fonts. I use navy. What you?
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I never post with blue fonts. I use navy. What you?
Why is your subcutaneous adipose levels at such a high level?
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I never post with blue fonts. I use navy. What you?
Women talk the same way...
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The angry man's guide to fitness! In this issue:
- Vince's Black Cloud of Embittered Wrath Workout.
- Put 1" on your calves through obesity.
- Being an expert. No credentials? No stars? No problem!
Now with twice the vituperation!
;D