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.......you decide that you wanted to juice?
Were you ever worried about your health?
What finally pushed you over the edge?
I'm really just curious, not hating.
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.......you decide that you wanted to juice?
Were you ever worried about your health?
What finally pushed you over the edge?
I'm really just curious, not hating.
I am still worried about my health, mainly because of cholesterol though,,, steroids lower your good cholesterol and eating 6,000 calories a day tends to add a lot of bad... Other than that, given that I rarely do orals, I doubt there's much more to worry about.
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.......you decide that you wanted to juice?
Were you ever worried about your health?
What finally pushed you over the edge?
I'm really just curious, not hating.
When I was still in the military and realized that no matter how good my nutrition was, I would have a hard time getting stronger with all the running we did. I made a conscious decision to research it and look in to it so when I got out I could turn to the "Dark Side".
Not yet, but cardiovascular issues are foremost on my mind.......hypertension and cholesterol which both are elevated by AAS use.
Nothing pushed me over the edge, it was just a thought out, calculated decision.
DIV
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I like juice , mainly apple or orange, dont like none of that sour tasting fruits though !!!
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I like juice , mainly apple or orange, dont like none of that sour tasting fruits though !!!
Grapefruit juice stinks
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Grapefruit juice stinks
I mixed it with tequila once; I think it tasted better. ???
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.......you decide that you wanted to juice?
Were you ever worried about your health?
What finally pushed you over the edge?
I'm really just curious, not hating.
Using sauce was the worse decision I ever made, in my life. At a height of 6'5, I achieved a bodyweight of 315 lbs, true, but it was pointless because I don't have good bodybuilding genetics. Besides, for someone of my height and bone structure, 315 lbs is not really that extraordinary. Very big, yes, but nothing that made me look freakish.
As for the health thing, I sincerely don't know. My guess is that I'm probably all fucked up on the inside, even though I still look healthy outside. When I was saucing hardcore, I had a one rep max of 610 lbs, on the bench. Now that I'm sauce-free and down to 260 lbs, my strengh is way down, but I can still do a single with 440 lbs and I can do eight reps with four plates a side. Also, when I was saucing, I had a really, really bad temper.
On more than one occasion, I felt an undescribable urge to murder some of the posters of this board, for some commentaries they made at the time. In all honesty, if they were standing in front of me, I think I would have killed them. I'm dead serious, man. I thank my lucky stars they were away from me, because otherwise I'd be on death row, or facing a life-term. As an example, I killed my neighbors german shephard with my bare hands, by breaking his spine. Needpless to say, I'm being sued both for aggravated assault and property damage.
The bottom line is that sauce isn't worth it, man. You don't need it to get big; they are only indispensable if you need to be both huge AND ripped, simultaneously. For the professional bodybuilder, they are a necessity, because they need to display muscularity, which involves taking your bodyfat to really low levels. When you lose bodyfat, you also lose muscle. So, to SHOW large muscles, you definitely need sauce. Myself, I have never weighed above 240 lbs while being really, really ripped(4% bodyfat)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Using sauce was the worse decision I ever made, in my life. At a height of 6'5, I achieved a bodyweight of 315 lbs, true, but it was pointless because I don't have good bodybuilding genetics. Besides, for someone of my height and bone structure, 315 lbs is not really that extraordinary. Very big, yes, but nothing that made me look freakish.
As for the health thing, I sincerely don't know. My guess is that I'm probably all fucked up on the inside, even though I still look healthy outside. When I was saucing hardcore, I had a one rep max of 610 lbs, on the bench. Now that I'm sauce-free and down to 260 lbs, my strengh is way down, but I can still do a single with 440 lbs and I can do eight reps with four plates a side. Also, when I was saucing, I had a really, really bad temper.
On more than one occasion, I felt an undescribable urge to murder some of the posters of this board, for some commentaries they made at the time. In all honesty, if they were standing in front of me, I think I would have killed them. I'm dead serious, man. I thank my lucky stars they were away from me, because otherwise I'd be on death row, or facing a life-term. As an example, I killed my neighbors german shephard with my bare hands, by breaking his spine. Needpless to say, I'm being sued both for aggravated assault and property damage.
The bottom line is that sauce isn't worth it, man. You don't need it to get big; they are only indispensable if you need to be both huge AND ripped, simultaneously. For the professional bodybuilder, they are a necessitiy, because they need to display musculrity, which involves taking your bodyfat to really low levels. When you lose bodyfat, you also lose muscle. So, to SHOW large muscles, you definitely need sauce. Myself, I have never weighed above 240 lbs while being really, really ripped(4% bodyfat)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
that's the biggest bullshit post i've ever read, you never did any of those things, you're a 115lb. salami slapper living in your parents basement.
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Grapefruit juice stinks
I always take orals like Drol and winny with grapefruit juice...
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On more than one occasion, I felt an undescribable urge to murder some of the posters of this board, for some commentaries they made at the time. In all honesty, if they were standing in front of me, I think I would have killed them. I'm dead serious, man. I thank my lucky stars they were away from me, because otherwise I'd be on death row, or facing a life-term. As an example, I killed my neighbors german shephard with my bare hands, by breaking his spine. Needpless to say, I'm being sued both for aggravated assault and property damage.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Um, so, which members were you bent on murdering?
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Um, so, which members were you bent on murdering?
the only thing he's going to murder is a pack of bologna and half a loaf of bread.
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that's the biggest bullshit post i've ever read, you never did any of those things, you're a 115lb. salami slapper living in your parents basement.
Ok, "sarcasm". Whatever. The fact that you registered four months ago, but already have over four thousand posts, goes to show who really lives in their parents basement.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Ok, "sarcasm". Whatever. The fact that you registered four months ago, but already have over four thousand posts, goes to show who really lives in their parents basement.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
ya know, it is possible to post a lot and still work a lot, be here and earn at the same time.
Or so i'm told.
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Sauce is highly over rated.
then let's see a picture of you before using.
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Sauce is highly over rated.
unless it's over some spaghetti
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unless it's over some spaghetti
Kitty like Ragu...... :)
DIV
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Kitty like Ragu...... :)
DIV
Prego
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(http://www.ambrosiasw.com/~andrew/funny/miserable_cat.jpg)
(http://www.mycathatesyou.com/images/cats/2003/07/fat_bitch.jpg)
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???
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;)
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See your question?
That was my answer.
A little slow, or?
okay, why won't you?
Do you not have any pics or what?
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no i don't see a pic
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Scroll down a bit in the thread.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=36826.msg587971#msg587971
ok I see, you look the same size as you are now, what were your stats before juicing?
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WHAT DID YOU TAKE?
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YOU SAY GEAR IS OVERATED, BUT YOU USED IT WHEN CUTTING....WHAT DID YOU EXPECT, TO PUT ON ALOT OF SIZE OR STRENGTH? NOT GONNA HAPPEN WHEN CUTTING, AT LEAST NOT MUCH. TRY DOING A BULKING CYCLE THEN REPORT BACK.
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OH, I FOLLOW.
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When I was still in the military and realized that no matter how good my nutrition was, I would have a hard time getting stronger with all the running we did. I made a conscious decision to research it and look in to it so when I got out I could turn to the "Dark Side".
Not yet, but cardiovascular issues are foremost on my mind.......hypertension and cholesterol which both are elevated by AAS use.
Nothing pushed me over the edge, it was just a thought out, calculated decision.
DIV
Do you compete in powerlifting? If not why the need to risk your health for strength?
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you know, maybe if you people could make the decision to take the hard road - the non-steroid path - despite genetic shortcomings, it wouldn't be so impossible to reach the next level. If everyone made the decision to go it without steroids, it would add some momentum to bodybuilding's stagnant progress.
It's not that I think steroids are evil; hell, I definitely don't think anyone should go to jail for them. My issue with them is that it creates an uneven playing field. Some are more genetically gifted than others. That is the way it is meant to be. The notion that plateus can't be overocme without steroidal aid is ridiculous to me. Maybe we'd have made greater advances in the science of training had steroids never come to prominence.
Don't take steroids. No matter how you look at it, it's a shortcut. Want to start gaining again? Take a logical approach. Hell, you'll live longer and be richer for it.
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you know, maybe if you people could make the decision to take the hard road - the non-steroid path - despite genetic shortcomings, it wouldn't be so impossible to reach the next level. If everyone made the decision to go it without steroids, it would add some momentum to bodybuilding's stagnant progress.
It's not that I think steroids are evil; hell, I definitely don't think anyone should go to jail for them. My issue with them is that it creates an uneven playing field. Some are more genetically gifted than others. That is the way it is meant to be. The notion that plateus can't be overocme without steroidal aid is ridiculous to me. Maybe we'd have made greater advances in the science of training had steroids never come to prominence.
Don't take steroids. No matter how you look at it, it's a shortcut. Want to start gaining again? Take a logical approach. Hell, you'll live longer and be richer for it.
Amen. Us naturals need a new leader because there's suddenly become a vacancy at the top. :)
How about it?
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Do you compete in powerlifting? If not why the need to risk your health for strength?
I'd rather "risk my health" doing what I love than some of the other risky behaviours people tend to partake in.
Considering I don't have any other bad habits other than AAS, I'd say I'm doing "OK".
DIV
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NO THANKS, ID RATHER GET HUGE, I GOT BIG NATURALLY(240LBS), TRAINED AND ATE SERIOUS FOR 4 YEARS, NOW IM GETTING FREAKISHLY HUGE AND STRONG, AND FEEL LIKE SUPERMAN, WHY WOULD I WANT TO BE A LITTLE PUSSY NATURAL?
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I'd rather "risk my health" doing what I love than some of the other risky behaviours people tend to partake in.
Considering I don't have any other bad habits other than AAS, I'd say I'm doing "OK".
DIV
ID CONSIDER STUFFING YOUR FACE TO THE POINT THAT YOURE OVER 30%BF A PRETTY BAD HABIT.
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ID CONSIDER STUFFING YOUR FACE TO THE POINT THAT YOURE OVER 30%BF A PRETTY BAD HABIT.
When did I say I was 30% BF?
Now you're making assumptions and looking bad doing so......
DIV
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I'd rather "risk my health" doing what I love than some of the other risky behaviours people tend to partake in.
Considering I don't have any other bad habits other than AAS, I'd say I'm doing "OK".
DIV
Two of my friends, who were on the sauce, were doing "ok" too, until one of them had a massive heart attack, while the other DIED of congestive kidney failure. Unless you're going to compete, DIVISION, it just ain't worth it. If my warning is not enough to dissuade you, then please get regular blood tests done, to check your HDL to LDL ratio, your liver enzyme profile and your levels of aldosterone(which indicates how your kidney function is doing). Both Dorian and Ronnie, who took/take more sauce than an Italian at the restaurant, due to professional necessity, got regular exams done, besides having a medical doctor on call, 24/7. You're one of the few good guys here, and I don't want to see you go.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Two of my friends, who were on the sauce, were doing "ok" too, until one of them had a massive heart attack, while the other DIED of congestive kidney failure. Unless you're going to compete, DIVISION, it just ain't worth it. If my warning is not enough to dissuade you, then please get regular blood tests done, to check your HDL to LDL ratio, your liver enzyme profile and your levels of aldosterone(which indicates how your kidney function is doing). Both Dorian and Ronnie, who took/take more sauce than an Italian at the restaurant, due to professional necessity, got regular exams done, besides having a medical doctor on call, 24/7. You're one of the few good guys here, and I don't want to see you go.
So now my ticket is about to be punched?
It's my time to go?
Is that what this is all about?
DIV
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NO THANKS, ID RATHER GET HUGE, I GOT BIG NATURALLY(240LBS), TRAINED AND ATE SERIOUS FOR 4 YEARS, NOW IM GETTING FREAKISHLY HUGE AND STRONG, AND FEEL LIKE SUPERMAN, WHY WOULD I WANT TO BE A LITTLE PUSSY NATURAL?
i've seen your pictures and you are not 240. hell, you can't even squat 240. i'm not saying you could never achieve an enviable physique, but with your level of development, do you really need steroids to make gains? If so, what does that say about your training? to me, it says that you're so insecure about yourself that you donn't even have the patience required to build a good physique. go ahead, juice up. no one will ever look at you normally again. and believe me, someone of your level will never ammount to anything with tons of steroids and stupid training. use your head, stupid.
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i've seen your pictures and you are not 240.
YOUVE NEVER SEEN MY PICTURES, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, IM NOT 240LBS, IM 290LBS.
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i've seen your pictures and you are not 240. hell, you can't even squat 240. i'm not saying you could never achieve an enviable physique, but with your level of development, do you really need steroids to make gains? If so, what does that say about your training? to me, it says that you're so insecure about yourself that you donn't even have the patience required to build a good physique. go ahead, juice up. no one will ever look at you normally again. and believe me, someone of your level will never ammount to anything with tons of steroids and stupid training. use your head, stupid.
I personally think "Double XL" is a gimmick account.
However, if that's not true, what makes you say he's underdeveloped?
It's obvious he's insecure.......with the CAPS LOCK, but besides that do you really think about this kid?
DIV
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I personally think "Double XL" is a gimmick account.
However, if that's not true, what makes you say he's underdeveloped?
It's obvious he's insecure.......with the CAPS LOCK, but besides that do you really think about this kid?
DIV
all i have to go on are the pics he posted in the member pics section.
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I personally think "Double XL" is a gimmick account.
I PERSONALLY THINK YOU'RE WRONG BUDDY.
It's obvious he's insecure.......
HAHA!!! LOL!! FUNNIEST SHIT IVE HEARD IN A WHILE.
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I PERSONALLY THINK YOU'RE WRONG BUDDY.
HAHA!!! LOL!! FUNNIEST SHIT IVE HEARD IN A WHILE.
you must live a life completely devoid of humor. if that's the case, get off the computer and start spending some time in the gym.
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I PERSONALLY THINK YOU'RE WRONG BUDDY.
HAHA!!! LOL!! FUNNIEST SHIT IVE HEARD IN A WHILE.
Are you this obnoxious in real life?
I can't imagine so, someone would have killed you by now.
Bullets tend to win out over muscle......
DIV
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Are you this obnoxious in real life?
I can't imagine so, someone would have killed you by now.
Bullets tend to win out over muscle......
DIV
NO ONE FUCKS WITH ME.
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NO ONE FUCKS WITH ME.
yeah, because you never leave your room.
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NO ONE FUCKS WITH ME.
You obviously have never fucked with any real gangbangers.......or anyone with nothing to lose.
They'd kill you for nothing.......esp with your attitude.
DIV
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yeah, because you never leave your room.
HAHA OK 420DEISLE, GO DO SOMEHARDCORE NATURAL LIFTING, LOL, HAHAHA!!!, HAVE FUN TRAINING AND GAINING A MASIVE 1 LB EVERY 2 MONTHS, WHAT A WASTE OF MONEY, ALL THAT FOOD AND TRAINING FOR SO LITTLE WHY NOT ADD IN GEAR? YOU ARENT GOING TO GET THAT MUCH BIGGER AFTER YOUR FIRST FEW YEARS OF TRAINING ANYWAY, AT A VERY SLOW RATE MAYBE BUT HEY HAVE FUN BEING A LITTLE BITCH HAHAHA, I BET YOURE ONE OF THOSE NATURALS WHO ARE A MASSIVE 190LBS, LOL!!!!!!
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You obviously have never fucked with any real gangbangers.......or anyone with nothing to lose.
They'd kill you for nothing.......esp with your attitude.
DIV
I DONT ASSOCIATE WITH HOOD SCUM guys LIKE THAT "DIV". LITTLE FAGGOT WANNABES WHO THINK THEIYRE TOUGH. PUT ONE OF THEM IN A ROOM WITH ME, ALONE, NO GUN AND WE'LL SEE HOW TOUGH THEY ARE, YOU MAKE ME LAUGH DIV.
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I'm 18 years old. I weigh 220 lbs, with a little bit of pudge. I can bench 365, squat 540 and deadlift 585. I've been strong as long as I've been alive. I was big as a kid, and I'm big now. I'm not the ultimate specimen, but when I put the work in, I work smart, work hard and get results accordingly. You can dispute my numbers and my logic all you want, but I am what I am and your words will never take that away from me.
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Also, I don't have to base the entirety of my existence off my physicality. I pride myself on my mental prowess above all else.
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I'm 18 years old. I weigh 220 lbs, with a little bit of pudge. I can bench 365, squat 540 and deadlift 585. I've been strong as long as I've been alive. I was big as a kid, and I'm big now. I'm not the ultimate specimen, but when I put the work in, I work smart, work hard and get results accordingly. You can dispute my numbers and my logic all you want, but I am what I am and your words will never take that away from me.
SOUNDS GOOD, I WAS 220 AT YOURE AGE, 235 BY 20, 242 BY 21 THEN I STARTED PINNING, YOU'RE 18 YOU SHOULD STAY NATURAL FOR NOW.
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SOUNDS GOOD, I WAS 220 AT YOURE AGE, 235 BY 20, 242 BY 21 THEN I STARTED PINNING, YOU'RE 18 YOU SHOULD STAY NATURAL FOR NOW.
if you had my genetics, or my mind, you'd never even contemplate steroid use. Say what you will, but steroids are the easy way out. The actions of this generation's up and coming bodybuilders will determine the future of the generation to follow. Everyone, keep that in mind the next time you feel the call of the needle.
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if you had my genetics, or my mind, you'd never even contemplate steroid use.
SPEAK FOR YOURSELF, I HAVE VERY GOOD GENETICS, I GAINED 75LBS OF MUSCLE IN MY FIRST YEAR OF TRAINING NATURALLY, SO DONT FLATTER YOURSELF KID. THERES NO WAY YOU COULD GET AS BIG AS ME NATURALLY.
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if you had my genetics, or my mind, you'd never even contemplate steroid use. Say what you will, but steroids are the easy way out. The actions of this generation's up and coming bodybuilders will determine the future of the generation to follow. Everyone, keep that in mind the next time you feel the call of the needle.
JFK couldn't have said it any better.
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It's the easy way out if the only reason your big is because of steroids.
If you were big before ever touching, there should be no hate.
I don't hate steroid users. I understand the need for such unnatural supplementation. It's unfair that someone could have all the heart and desire in the world, but not the genetics to match. my problem, however, is that, because of this very situation, achieving the level of a competitive bodybuilder is damn near impossible without steroids.
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SPEAK FOR YOURSELF, I HAVE VERY GOOD GENETICS, I GAINED 75LBS OF MUSCLE IN MY FIRST YEAR OF TRAINING NATURALLY, SO DONT FLATTER YOURSELF KID. THERES NO WAY YOU COULD GET AS BIG AS ME NATURALLY.
Okay mr.muscle, when will you be competing in the olympia?
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SPEAK FOR YOURSELF, I HAVE VERY GOOD GENETICS, I GAINED 75LBS OF MUSCLE IN MY FIRST YEAR OF TRAINING NATURALLY, SO DONT FLATTER YOURSELF KID. THERES NO WAY YOU COULD GET AS BIG AS ME NATURALLY.
...bullshit ::)
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SPEAK FOR YOURSELF, I HAVE VERY GOOD GENETICS, I GAINED 75LBS OF MUSCLE IN MY FIRST YEAR OF TRAINING NATURALLY, SO DONT FLATTER YOURSELF KID. THERES NO WAY YOU COULD GET AS BIG AS ME NATURALLY.
:D ;) :o
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anyways, my conflict with you has caused a major deviation from the point. If steroid use decreases now, the next generation can reap the benefits of a more level playing field. We each make the decision to further the gap between the naturally attainable and the current standard of bodybuilding. Put the needle down, don't take the easy way out. If no one is willing to step up and end this vicious cycle, bodybuilding will be ruined.
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Okay mr.muscle, when will you be competing in the olympia?
NOT ANYTIME SOON BRUTHA.
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NOT ANYTIME SOON BRUTHA.
sounds like those roids are working well for you.
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...bullshit ::)
NO BULLSHIT HERE BRUTHA.
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you know, maybe if you people could make the decision to take the hard road - the non-steroid path - despite genetic shortcomings, it wouldn't be so impossible to reach the next level. If everyone made the decision to go it without steroids, it would add some momentum to bodybuilding's stagnant progress.
How would that add momentum, specifically? I fail to see how NOT taking steroids will make it more possible to "reach the next level".
My issue with them is that it creates an uneven playing field. Some are more genetically gifted than others. That is the way it is meant to be. The notion that plateus can't be overocme without steroidal aid is ridiculous to me. Maybe we'd have made greater advances in the science of training had steroids never come to prominence.
And what "playing field" are you speaking of? As I've mentioned before, when I go to the gym, I don't think of it as a competition between myself and other recreational lifters.
As can be said of performance enhancing drugs in other sports (take cycling for example, a very heavily drugged sport)-- take away the drugs and the same people who are at the top would still be there. Just possibly that overall times, etc. would be somewhat higher (again using the cycling example).
Who ever said that plateaus cannot be overcome without steroids? I honestly don't know of anyone who thinks that way.
About advances in training-- well, for one thing it's not like there's been any shortage of theories developed over the past 50 years saying shit to the effect of "this new fabulous 'x' training system produces 280% better muscle gains than training system 'y' ". And personally I don't think building muscle and/or losing fat is rocket surgery. As has been stated by Lyle McDonald- "Ass busting work + consistency + time = results."
Don't take steroids. No matter how you look at it, it's a shortcut.
And what is wrong with taking a shortcut? What is so terribly wrong about wanting to achieve your bodybuilding/weightlifting goals sooner rather than later? When you sit down and think about it..... who gives a flying f**k?? I just simply cannot understand the thought process behind some natural trainees who will look at a steroid using lifter and think "man, that guy's nothing but a cheater", "he just couldn't build any muscle without steroids", blah blah blah. On the contrary, why is it that you rarely (if ever) see steroid using lifters on message boards or elsewhere bitching about how "weak and pansy natural trainers are"? And it's the steroid users who are supposed to have all the rage? Please... ::) :)
Hell, you'll live longer
Could you please point me to some cases of people dying in which anabolic steroids are the specific culprit? I would also like to know precisely why I will not live as long as I would if I didn't ever take steroids. *This may also be a good point to note that not everyone who uses steroids abuses them.
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sounds like those roids are working well for you.
WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY?
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How would that add momentum, specifically? I fail to see how NOT taking steroids will make it more possible to "reach the next level".
And what "playing field" are you speaking of? As I've mentioned before, when I go to the gym, I don't think of it as a competition between myself and other recreational lifters.
As can be said of performance enhancing drugs in other sports (take cycling for example, a very heavily drugged sport)-- take away the drugs and the same people who are at the top would still be there. Just possibly that overall times, etc. would be somewhat higher (again using the cycling example).
Who ever said that plateaus cannot be overcome without steroids? I honestly don't know of anyone who thinks that way.
About advances in training-- well, for one thing it's not like there's been any shortage of theories developed over the past 50 years saying shit to the effect of "this new fabulous 'x' training system produces 280% better muscle gains than training system 'y' ". And personally I don't think building muscle and/or losing fat is rocket surgery. As has been stated by Lyle McDonald- "Ass busting work + consistency + time = results."
Hell, you'll live longer and be richer for it.
Could you please point me to some cases of people dying in which anabolic steroids are the specific culprit? I would also like to know precisely why I will not live as long as I would if I didn't ever take steroids. *This may also be a good point to note that not everyone who uses steroids abuses them.
my problem is not with steroids as a substance. my issue lies with its effect on the sport of bodybuilding. with all the top competitors using such copious ammounts of performance enhacing drugs, how are the young up and comers going to be left with any choice other than to juice? Personally, I love bodybuilding. I love almost every aspect of it. Unfortunately, the only thing keeping me from making a real commitment to is the fact that I will have no future in it without steroids.
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Um, so, which members were you bent on murdering?
Let's put it this way.... he's already asked me for the screenshot of MattT's infamous post detailing your info. ;D
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and when i attack doublexl for his personal use, i'm merely trying to show that each person's individual decision to juice just makes it harder for people trying to do it the natural way.
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my problem is not with steroids as a substance. my issue lies with its effect on the sport of bodybuilding. with all the top competitors using such copious ammounts of performance enhacing drugs, how are the young up and comers going to be left with any choice other than to juice? Personally, I love bodybuilding. I love almost every aspect of it. Unfortunately, the only thing keeping me from making a real commitment to is the fact that I will have no future in it without steroids.
Gotcha'. ;)
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I understand that steroids are the great equalizer, but for every personal gain a bodybuilder makes with steroids, he takes a little away from the sport as a whole.
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I understand that steroids are the great equalizer, but for every personal gain a bodybuilder makes with steroids, he takes a little away from the sport as a whole.
Without steroids, there IS no "sport".
You can get BIG without steroids or you can get RIPPED without steroids, but you really can't do BOTH at the same time. Ever seen a true natural show? What a joke...most of the competitors look like they don't even work out because of all the muscle they lost in order to get their fat down. Hell... some of them even have that "skinny-fat" look. ::)
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Without steroids, there IS no "sport".
IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT.
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my problem is not with steroids as a substance. my issue lies with its effect on the sport of bodybuilding. with all the top competitors using such copious ammounts of performance enhacing drugs, how are the young up and comers going to be left with any choice other than to juice? Personally, I love bodybuilding. I love almost every aspect of it. Unfortunately, the only thing keeping me from making a real commitment to is the fact that I will have no future in it without steroids.
I understand that steroids are the great equalizer, but for every personal gain a bodybuilder makes with steroids, he takes a little away from the sport as a whole.
You should send your well articulated thoughts to Mr. Joe Weider. It's not too late for him to change his legacy in bodybuilding. Wait . . . on second thought . . . you better not write Joe because he'll probably try to sell you some Mega Mass 4000 and convince you that you can make the pros that way.
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Without steroids, there IS no "sport".
You can get BIG without steroids or you can get RIPPED without steroids, but you really can't do BOTH at the same time. Ever seen a true natural show? What a joke...most of the competitors look like they don't even work out because of all the muscle they lost in order to get their fat down. Hell... some of them even have that "skinny-fat" look. ::)
"skinny-fat" look, wtf do you mean?
Oh... never mind, I'm getting a visual now...
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44928.0;id=47764;image)
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Some are talking about achieving their bodybuilding goals sooner rather than later but the point is that you never will archieve a "juiced" physique later and that's a big reason people do juice.
I can't see it as a shortcut but as a way to get on another level.
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Some are talking about achieving their bodybuilding goals sooner rather than later but the point is that you never will archieve a "juiced" physique later and that's a big reason people do juice.
I can't see it as a shortcut but as a way to get on another level.
WELL SAID, AS ALWAYS, MARS.
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Without steroids, there IS no "sport".
You can get BIG without steroids or you can get RIPPED without steroids, but you really can't do BOTH at the same time. Ever seen a true natural show? What a joke...most of the competitors look like they don't even work out because of all the muscle they lost in order to get their fat down. Hell... some of them even have that "skinny-fat" look.
This is exactly what I said on another post, Goatboy. Big muscles covered with lard? Possible. Ripped abs with puny muscles? Possible. HUGE muscles with ripped abs? Nope. Why? Because the human body was not made to carry hundreds of pounds of muscles, with concentration-camp levels of bodyfat. There was never an evolutionary reason for someone to be like that, so genes that would enable you to be like that "naturally" were never selected for. To have such a body, you need to change your body's biochemistry to a considerable degree, through an increase in muscle protein synthesis, by commanding your DNA to create more RNA-transcryptase. There is no other way.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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.......you decide that you wanted to juice?
Were you ever worried about your health?
What finally pushed you over the edge?
I'm really just curious, not hating.
I had always been interested, as I found out pretty early in the game that u can't get as big as I like without the special sauce.
I read up on my stuff and realised the health problems weren't major if u were smart and didn't abuse the stuff, like any other drug or substance.
I had been on just under 100kgs for a while and I'm pretty tall and a hard gainer, so I decided to take a few dbols. I was 22 years old. After a while I was talked into injecting by a couple of guys who knew what they were talking about, plus I further read up on the amounts needed etc.
At this point in time, I'm not as big as I would like and feel the veterinary stuff doesn't work well for me. I'm gonna stick with the sust from now on even if it costs more than other stuff.
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I understand that steroids are the great equalizer, but for every personal gain a bodybuilder makes with steroids, he takes a little away from the sport as a whole.
you may not be on steroids but you are obviously on some sort of drug to say such a retarded thing. ???
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Double XL, you claim to weigh a lean 290, you make 200k a year, and you are the biggest badass known to man.
You'd think a guy with that many talents and gifts would manage to put ONE pic online.
Blah, blah, you can talk about how you don't feel the need to post one, you're secure, etc.
But by making such outlandish claims - 290 of muscle would make you one of the top Bbers in the world- 75 pounds natural the first year is physically impossible - you REALLY should validate your claims with a pic.
Or, you could just close this name and open another of your gimmick account. I rather miss Bro_in_the_know. :-\
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Without steroids, there IS no "sport".
You can get BIG without steroids or you can get RIPPED without steroids, but you really can't do BOTH at the same time. Ever seen a true natural show? What a joke...most of the competitors look like they don't even work out because of all the muscle they lost in order to get their fat down. Hell... some of them even have that "skinny-fat" look. ::)
Exactly.
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Kitty like Ragu...... :)
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fuck Ragu, that stuff is like ketchup compared to real gravy, i make my own with meatballs, salcicca, veal, pork butt thrown in.
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the human body was not made to carry hundreds of pounds of muscles, with concentration-camp levels of bodyfat.
Considering I don't have any other bad habits other than AAS, I'd say I'm doing "OK".
It's basically the same as cattle-fattening. Today's musculature resembles that of horses.
Looks impressive but in the end the bodyweight eventually has to come back down again to avoid life-shortening stresses to the body caused by carrying extra weight. A boring reality.
The Myostatin gene might be useful for cows, but life expectancy isn't an issue with them. :D
Long-term, unnatural size & weight gains are counter-productive. This is completely aside from any internal damage roids might cause.
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Double XL, you claim to weigh a lean 290, you make 200k a year, and you are the biggest badass known to man.
I NEVER CLAIMED TO MAKE 200K A YEAR, I SAID OVER A 100, BUT IN ACCTUALITY I ONLY PAY MYSELF $1200 A WEEK, THE REST GOES INTO MY COMPANY.
You'd think a guy with that many talents and gifts would manage to put ONE pic online.
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NO.
Blah, blah, you can talk about how you don't feel the need to post one, you're secure, etc.
YES
75 pounds natural the first year is physically impossible - you REALLY should validate your claims with a pic.
I WENT FROM 140 TO 215 IN A A LITTLE OVER YEAR, 50LBS IN MY FIRST 6 MONTHS I GAIN MUSCLE VERY EASILY. IT WAS AT LEAST 60-65LBS OF LEAN MUSCLE THAT I GAINED, I KNOW YOUR GENETICS ARE TERRIBLE SO ITS HARD FOR YOU TO FATHOM, BUT THATS THE FACTS.
But by making such outlandish claims - 290 of muscle would make you one of the top Bbers in the world
IM OFFSEASON BRUTHA, 6 FEET/5 11 AT 290, I WOULD BE 235- 250 IN TRUE CONTEST SHAPE, I AM NOT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING ONE OF THE TOP BODYBUILDERS IN THE WORLD, NOT UNLESS I ADD MORE MASS. I WOULD NEVER COMETE IN BODYBUILDING ANYHOW, I DONT HAVE ANY DESIRE TO GET UP ON STAGE IN A THONG AND POSE.
Or, you could just close this name and open another of your gimmick account. I rather miss Bro_in_the_know
GIMMICK ACCOUNTS ARE FOR THE WEAK.
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And the "company" is off course The Squad if you did not noticed it.
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And the "company" is off course The Squad if you did not noticed it.
VERY TRUE.
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NO ONE FUCKS WITH ME.
yeah we know no one picks on the retard in highschool they all laugh at your silly ? and to walk around thinking your the baddest in the world shows stupid you really are. There is always someone willing to go futher to win a fight so dont talk this silly non sense and be real to yourself
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yeah we know no one picks on the retard in highschool they all laugh at your silly ? and to walk around thinking your the baddest in the world shows stupid you really are. There is always someone willing to go futher to win a fight so dont talk this silly non sense and be real to yourself
LISTEN BRUTHA, WHEN YOU'RE AS BIG AS I AM PEOPLE JUST DONT FUCK WITH YOU, FACTS ARE FACTS AND NO ONE FUCKS WITH ME. ONCE YOU GAIN SOME MUSCLE YOULL KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT.
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LISTEN BRUTHA, WHEN YOU'RE AS BIG AS I AM PEOPLE JUST DONT f**k WITH YOU, FACTS ARE FACTS AND NO ONE FUCKS WITH ME. ONCE YOU GAIN SOME MUSCLE YOULL KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT.
while I am not the biggest I am 5'11 and 230 lbs and maybe 10% bf and I am an experienced caage fighter so I know how to fight and I still say no one is that bad so calnm down and realize while you may be big a lot of people are bigger so let the truth be told
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while I am not the biggest I am 5'11 and 230 lbs and maybe 10% bf and I am an experienced caage fighter so I know how to fight and I still say no one is that bad so calnm down and realize while you may be big a lot of people are bigger so let the truth be told
NO, ACTUALLY THERE ARENT ALOT OF PEOPLE BIGGER THAN ME BRUTHA, IVE NEVER COME IN CONTACT WITH ANYONE BIGGER THAN ME. BELIVE IT OR NOT, THEIR ARENT MANY 290LB+ BODYBUILDERS OUT THERE, EVEN 230LBS OF MUSCLE LIKE YOUSELF IS RARE.
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LISTEN BRUTHA, WHEN YOU'RE AS BIG AS I AM PEOPLE JUST DONT f**k WITH YOU, FACTS ARE FACTS AND NO ONE FUCKS WITH ME. ONCE YOU GAIN SOME MUSCLE YOULL KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT.
i agree... and everyone wants to be your friend. cuz they think u got the "magic potion" or "pill" to make them big.
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Stay off the sauce....keep it clean kids.
MOS
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i was on test for 6months straight. i got bloodwork done and everything was fine cholesterol etc.... its when people resort to pain killers and rec drugs they then screw themselves up
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you may not be on steroids but you are obviously on some sort of drug to say such a retarded thing. ???
yeah, i've got to be smoking something. only an idiot would submit a well formed sentence...
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I rarely do oral
we've all had a gf like you at some point >:(
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75 pounds natural the first year is physically impossible
Or, you could just close this name and open another of your gimmick account. I rather miss Bro_in_the_know. :-\
^Exacty right on both points, Robert.
75lbs of lean mass in the first year? Not possible.
I also think "Double XL" is a gimmick account.
Just not sure who it is yet.
DIV
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i was on test for 6months straight. i got bloodwork done and everything was fine cholesterol etc.... its when people resort to pain killers and rec drugs they then screw themselves up
It depends on the dose of test,,, if you take over a gram a week for 6-months you're good cholesterol will be almost nothing... trust me...
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i think if XXL would just post a pic we would settle a lot of things....lets see this massive beast ;D
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we've all had a gf like you at some point >:(
I knew you were lurking! >:(
DIV
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I appreciate all of the insight. People have accused me of taking and offered me on several occasions when I told them I was at a sticking point.
Sometimes I get frustrated with sticking points and not being able to achieve my goal and the though passes my mind "What would it be like to walk around with 23' arms and a 600lb bench"?
Then I think about the health concerns. Sometimes I can empathize with people who juice because I can see the justification when you get frustrated but then I always think about the long term effects.
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When I was still in the military and realized that no matter how good my nutrition was, I would have a hard time getting stronger with all the running we did. I made a conscious decision to research it and look in to it so when I got out I could turn to the "Dark Side".
Join meee!! And together we can rule the galaxy!!!
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^Exacty right on both points, Robert.
75lbs of lean mass in the first year? Not possible.
I also think "Double XL" is a gimmick account.
Just not sure who it is yet.
DIV
Doesn't sarcasm usually call bullshit on people who make outlandish claims? He did with that dude that said he snapped a German Shepherds back but he hasn't with DOUBLE XL.
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Doesn't sarcasm usually call bullshit on people who make outlandish claims? He did with that dude that said he snapped a German Shepherds back but he hasn't with DOUBLE XL.
suckmymuscle = bodyslams 75-pound dogs for fun.
Most ridiculous thing I've heard all week lol.
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^Exacty right on both points, Robert.
75lbs of lean mass in the first year? Not possible.
I also think "Double XL" is a gimmick account.
Just not sure who it is yet.
DIV
60-65LBS, ITS ALL ABOUT GENETICS, IT MIGHT HAVE NOT BEEN POSSIBLE FOR YOU OR 240 TO GAIN THAT AMOUNT OF MUSCLE IN A YEAR, BUT FOR ME IT WAS, AND SAME THING WITH MY LITTLE BROTHER.
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I GUESS THERE REALLY ARENT THAT MANY PEOPLE HERE WITH GOOD GENETICS FOR BUILDING MUSCLE ???
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maybe if you and your little bro sewed yourselves together.
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60-65LBS, ITS ALL ABOUT GENETICS, IT MIGHT HAVE NOT BEEN POSSIBLE FOR YOU OR 240 TO GAIN THAT AMOUNT OF MUSCLE IN A YEAR, BUT FOR ME IT WAS, AND SAME THING WITH MY LITTLE BROTHER.
I believe scientifically, under PERFECT conditions, one can only gain 1 - 1.5 pounds per week of muscle. That's on gear, food, and being new to it all.
You're saying you achieved this MONUMENTAL FEAT - THIS AMAZING, UNBELIEVEABLE FEAT - because you clearly are ONE OF THE TOP BBERS in the world - 290 muscular at age 23 - and you have not taking one pic.
ummmmmmmmmm-k. ::)
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I HAVE A PIC OF ME AFTER MY FIRST 6 MONTHS OF TRAINING IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
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I believe scientifically, under PERFECT conditions, one can only gain 1 - 1.5 pounds per week of muscle. That's on gear, food, and being new to it all.
You're saying you achieved this MONUMENTAL FEAT - THIS AMAZING, UNBELIEVEABLE FEAT - because you clearly are ONE OF THE TOP BBERS in the world - 290 muscular at age 23 - and you have not taking one pic.
ummmmmmmmmm-k. ::)
WELL I WASNT GOING TO SCHOOL, I WASNT WORKING, ALL I WAS DOING IS RELAXING, TRAINING MY ASS OFF, AND EATING, SO ID SAY THOSE ARE PRETTY GOOD CONDITIONS.
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let's see. keep in mind, you said you weighed 220 at my age, 18. well, if you started a few years prior, then how much more than 130 could you have weighed? and to now claim a weight of 290, with a genetic starting weight of under 150 lbs, does that really seem reasonable to you?
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I believe scientifically, under PERFECT conditions, one can only gain 1 - 1.5 pounds per week of muscle. That's on gear, food, and being new to it all.
You're saying you achieved this MONUMENTAL FEAT - THIS AMAZING, UNBELIEVEABLE FEAT - because you clearly are ONE OF THE TOP BBERS in the world - 290 muscular at age 23 - and you have not taking one pic.
ummmmmmmmmm-k. ::)
WHERE DID I SAY THAT IM 23? IM 26.
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let's see. keep in mind, you said you weighed 220 at my age, 18. well, if you started a few years prior, then how much more than 130 could you have weighed? and to now claim a weight of 290, with a genetic starting weight of under 150 lbs, does that really seem reasonable to you?
YES IT DOES SEEM REASONABLE TO ME, BECAUSE ITS REALITY.
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Dude, realize you have made one of the greatest claims in GetBig history-
You wrote that you gained 75 pounds of muscle in your first year of lifting.
You wrote that you're now a muscular 290 pounds.
You post a pic of you BEFORE gaining that 75 lbs, and AFTER, once you've reached 290, and you'll become a legend. That in-fucking-credible. Amazing. Unearthly.
Or, you continue to defer requests to prove your braggadocio, and sound like a lying ass kid.
Your choice, really.
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I personally think "Double XL" is a gimmick account.
DIV
Uh....yeah
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You wrote that you're now a muscular 290 pounds.
WHERE DID I RIGHT THAT I WAS A MUSCULAR 290LBS? LIKE I SAID, I WOULD BE 235-250 IN CONTEST CONDITION.
You wrote that you gained 75 pounds of muscle in your first year of lifting
WELL 75LBS TOTAL TO BE CORRECT BUT YES, WHATS YOUR POINT?
You post a pic of you BEFORE gaining that 75 lbs, and AFTER, once you've reached 290, and you'll become a legend. That in-fucking-credible. Amazing. Unearthly.
THANK YOU.
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75lbs of lean mass in the first year? Not possible.
DIV
for a human - yes
livestock - no
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Uh....yeah
WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT KNNY? BECAUSE I OWNED YOU?
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WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT KNNY? BECAUSE I OWNED YOU?
because the fact you are
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because the fact you are
WRONG ANSWER KNNY.
DO NOT PASS GO, DO NOT COLLECT $200
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It depends on the dose of test,,, if you take over a gram a week for 6-months you're good cholesterol will be almost nothing... trust me...
well ive never been on 1000mg of test for no more then 2weeks becuase i didnt notice a difference from 600mg a week. the biggest factor in side effects/muscle gain/ bodyfat loss is genetics. watch this new special coming on mtv next week True life "im on steroids" ive already seen the previews and couldnt help but laugh. these guys are toothpics and are taking juice.
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60-65LBS, ITS ALL ABOUT GENETICS, IT MIGHT HAVE NOT BEEN POSSIBLE FOR YOU OR 240 TO GAIN THAT AMOUNT OF MUSCLE IN A YEAR, BUT FOR ME IT WAS, AND SAME THING WITH MY LITTLE BROTHER.
That's over 1.25 lbs of muscle per week.
Pros don't even have genetics that good.
You should post a pic, you must be a beast.
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WHEN I SAID IM 290LBS, WERE YOU GUYS THINKING IM LIKE A RONNIE COLEMAN 290LBS? LOL! YOU GUYS ARE IDIOTS.
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Let's try to stick to the subject of pros/cons of steroids and the original questions etc
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That's over 1.25 lbs of muscle per week.
Pros don't even have genetics that good.
You should post a pic, you must be a beast.
MAYBE IM WRONG BRUTHA, I KNOW I PUT ON SOME FAT AND WAS ON CREATINE SO I DONT KNOW, BUT I DO KNOW I GAINED 75LBS AFTER A LITTLE OVER A YEAR OF SERIOUS TRAINING AND EATING, PEOPLE DIDNT RECOGNISE ME.
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Let's try to stick to the subject of pros/cons of steroids and the original questions etc
THREADS THAT GO OFFTOPIC ARE MORE INTERESTING THAN ONES THAT STAY ON TOPIC.
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I DIDNT PUT ON A NOTICIBLE AMOUNT A FAT THOUGH, UNLIKE 240.
IM OFF TO THE GYM.
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WHERE DID I RIGHT THAT I WAS A MUSCULAR 290LBS? LIKE I SAID, I WOULD BE 235-250 IN CONTEST CONDITION.
WELL 75LBS TOTAL TO BE CORRECT BUT YES, WHATS YOUR POINT?THANK YOU.
WHEN I SAID IM 290LBS, WERE YOU GUYS THINKING IM LIKE A RONNIE COLEMAN 290LBS? LOL! YOU GUYS ARE IDIOTS.
I DIDNT PUT ON A NOTICIBLE AMOUNT A FAT THOUGH, UNLIKE 240.
You say you didn’t get fat…
You are currently carrying 55 pounds of EXTRA FAT(290 minus 235 contest weight).
You don’t consider an extra 55 pounds of fat to be a problem?
Assuming a 5% contest BF% (still 13 pounds of fat), that means you currently carry 68 (13 + 55 pounds) of fat.
You are, right now, 290 pounds at 23.4% bodyfat.
You have been mathematically owned, XS.
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I DIDNT PUT ON A NOTICIBLE AMOUNT A FAT THOUGH, UNLIKE 240.
You carry 68 pounds of fat on your body. But nothing noticable. ::)
Here is 5 pounds of fat. You carry almost 14 of these babies on your frame. Good work!
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You say you didn’t get fat…
You are currently carrying 55 pounds of EXTRA FAT(290 minus 235 contest weight).
You don’t consider an extra 55 pounds of fat to be a problem?
Assuming a 5% contest BF% (still 13 pounds of fat), that means you currently carry 68 (13 + 55 pounds) of fat.
You are, right now, 290 pounds at 23.4% bodyfat.
You have been mathematically owned, XS.
that is absolute worst case based on what he said.
could also look at it this way:
excess weight = 290 - 250 = 40 (some of this will be water which you neglected)
5%bf @ 250 = 12,5
and lets say 10 out of those 40 pounds are water (i have no idea how much water guys really drop before a contests so im just guessing). 42,5 (30+12,5) pounds of fat at 290 pounds isnt all that bad (approx 14,5% bf).
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i just want to see a damn picture...he said he has one so lets see it
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You say you didn’t get fat…
You are currently carrying 55 pounds of EXTRA FAT(290 minus 235 contest weight).
You don’t consider an extra 55 pounds of fat to be a problem?
Assuming a 5% contest BF% (still 13 pounds of fat), that means you currently carry 68 (13 + 55 pounds) of fat.
You are, right now, 290 pounds at 23.4% bodyfat.
You have been mathematically owned, XS.
YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT 240..... ASSUMING I DIDNT LOSE ANY FUCKING MUSCLE OR WATER WHEN DIETING DOWN YOU STUPID FUCKING CUNT.
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I gained 70 lbs in 14 months once, but it was the first 14 months I really lifted. I went from about 160 to about 230 and my bodyfat had to be lower than 13%. So yes, it is possible to gain a lot of muscle relatively quick but I could only see this happening for someone who has never lifted and is under 23 or so.
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I gained 70 lbs in 14 months once, but it was the first 14 months I really lifted. I went from about 160 to about 230 and my bodyfat had to be lower than 13%. So yes, it is possible to gain a lot of muscle relatively quick but I could only see this happening for someone who has never lifted and is under 23 or so.
WELL ITS GOOD TO HEAR FROM ANOTHER GUY WITH SOME DECENT GENETICS.
OH AND I FORGOT TO MENTION, THE FIRST 6-8 MONTHS WHEN I GAINED 50LBS, WAS FROM ONLY TRAINING UPPERBODY. THEN I ADDED IN LOWERBODY AND PUT ON ANOTHER 25LBS IN THE NEXT 4 MONTHS OR SO. I BELIVE THATS THE TIMELINE.
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according to Blood and Guts Dorian Yates gained 70lbs of muscle in 13 years of training. This was prior to the 96 olympia. So basically this tool is saying he gained more muscle in 1 year naturally than Yates did in 13 years. Damn good genetics you got there XL huh ::)
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bodymass and lean musclemass are two different things.
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according to Blood and Guts Dorian Yates gained 70lbs of muscle in 13 years of training. This was prior to the 96 olympia. So basically this tool is saying he gained more muscle in 1 year naturally than Yates did in 13 years. Damn good genetics you got there XL huh ::)
YOU'RE AN IDIOT. YOURE MAKING IT LIKE I WAS THE SIZE OF YATES AFTER A YEAR OF TRAINING NATURALLY? HAHAHA, WHAT A FUCKING DOUCHE, IM NOWHERE NEAR HIS SIZE EVEN NOW FYI YOU CUNT, MAYBE WITH ANOTHER 50LBS OF MUSCLE I WOULD BE, I GOT UP TO AN OFFSEASON 215LBS AT 6 FEET TALL AFTER A YEAR OF TRAINING WOW I HAD NO IDEA THAT WAS SO AMAZING :o :o :o
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according to Blood and Guts Dorian Yates gained 70lbs of muscle in 13 years of training. This was prior to the 96 olympia. So basically this tool is saying he gained more muscle in 1 year naturally than Yates did in 13 years. Damn good genetics you got there XL huh ::)
Oh
My
God.
Double XL is the next Mr Olympia.
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YOU'RE AN IDIOT. YOURE MAKING IT LIKE I WAS THE SIZE OF YATES AFTER A YEAR OF TRAINING NATURALLY? HAHAHA, WHAT A FUCKING DOUCHE, IM NOWHERE NEAR HIS SIZE EVEN NOW FYI YOU CUNT, MAYBE WITH ANOTHER 50LBS OF MUSCLE I WOULD BE, I GOT UP TO AN OFFSEASON 215LBS AT 6 FEET TALL AFTER A YEAR OF TRAINING WOW I HAD NO IDEA THAT WAS SO AMAZING :o :o :o
kill yourself now
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kill yourself now
HAHA OK GMCTRK, WHAT A FUCKING CLOWN.
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Oh
My
God.
Double XL is the next Mr Olympia.
WITH ANOTHER 40-50LBS OF MUSCLE ON MY FRAME THAT MIGHT BE A POSSIBILITY!!
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WITH ANOTHER 40-50LBS OF MUSCLE ON MY FRAME THAT MIGHT BE A POSSIBILITY!!
that's less than 1 year of natural training for you :o
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that's less than 1 year of natural training for you :o
YES. BECAUSE AFTER 8 + YEARS OF NATURAL AND CHEMICALLY ENHANCED TRAINING WE ALL GAIN THAT KIND OF WEIGHT IN A YEAR.
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YES. BECAUSE AFTER 8 + YEARS OF NATURAL AND CHEMICALLY ENHANCED TRAINING WE ALL GAIN THAT KIND OF WEIGHT IN A YEAR.
That doesn't apply to you. You have better genetics than Mr. olympia dorian yates
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That doesn't apply to you. You have better genetics than Mr. olympia dorian yates
WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT? AT MY AGE YATES WAS BIGGER THAN ME AND WAS WINNING MR OLYMPIAS, HOW DO I HAVE BETTER GENETICS THAN HIM?
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ALTHOUGH, IVE NEVER USED GH AND DONT USE ANYWHERE NEAR THE DOSES OF GEAR THAT YATES DID.
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If Dorian could of packed on 60lbs of Muscle a year starting after his first Olympia, he would have weighed over 600 lbs by the time of his last one.
That would have been quite a sight...
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I believe him...I gained 65 pds my first year of training...now im sitting at 275 and lean...I know most of you guys got the short end of the gene pool..but hey...dont hate on the genetic freaks because your small 8)
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What the big deal,if I weighed almost 300lbs and had the best genetics this side of Big Ron,I'm sure I wouldn't have any pictures either.BULLSHIT!Face it your some 175lb tool,living some chatroom persona.CUT OUT THE CAPLOCKS TOO U HOMOXL.
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I believe him...I gained 65 pds my first year of training...now im sitting at 275 and lean...I know most of you guys got the short end of the gene pool..but hey...dont hate on the genetic freaks because your small 8)
GOOD GAINS BRUTHA! SOME PEOPLE JUST HAVE DOWNRIGHT SHITTY GENETICS FOR BUILDING MUSCLE, SO IT'S HARD FOR THEM TO BELIVE THAT SOME PEOPLE PUT ON MUSCLE QUITE EASILY, IT'S TOO BITTER A PILL FOR THEM TO SWALLOW. PEOPLE LIKE 240 WHO TRAINED SINCE THEY WERE 16 TILL 29, 13 YEARS, AND YET, LOOK LIKE THEYVE NEVER PICKED UP A WEIGHT IN THEIR LIFE, YET PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND ME WHO TRAIN A YEAR OR SO AND LOOK LIKE A BODYBUILDER, IT'S A NORMAL REACTION FOR SOMEONE LIKE 240 OR OTHER GUYS ON HERE WITH BAD GENETICS TO FIND SUCH CLAIMS OF MUSCLE GAINS TO BE UNFATHOMABLE, AND THEY BASE THIS ON THE FACT THAT NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO OR DID, COULD NEVER MAKE SUCH GAINS DUE TO BAD MUSCLEBUILDING GENETICS.
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I believe him...I gained 65 pds my first year of training...now im sitting at 275 and lean...I know most of you guys got the short end of the gene pool..but hey...dont hate on the genetic freaks because your small 8)
I gained 45lbs in my first year of training. I am only 5'6", so at 6' like XL is thats not tough to do at all. Also growth of bone, skin, and organs occurs in the teenage years. Plus the addition of new muscle brings more water, and more fat...40-80lbs is certainly attainable. Another example is a good friend of mine, he was 140lbs as a senior in high school at 6'2", and at the end of his freshman year in college he was 205 and verrrrrrry lean. Now 5 years later he is 230.
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What the big deal,if I weighed almost 300lbs and had the best genetics this side of Big Ron,I'm sure I wouldn't have any pictures either.BULLSHIT!Face it your some 175lb tool,living some chatroom persona.CUT OUT THE CAPLOCKS TOO U HOMOXL.
SPARE ME YOU CLOWN, IM SORRY THAT YOU HAVE BAD GENETICS, I REALLY AM, BUT WHATS THE POINT IN TAKING YOUR FRUSTRATIONS OUT ON ME?
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I gained 45lbs in my first year of training. I am only 5'6", so at 6' like XL is thats not tough to do at all. Also growth of bone, skin, and organs occurs in the teenage years. Plus the addition of new muscle brings more water, and more fat...40-80lbs is certainly attainable. Another example is a good friend of mine, he was 140lbs as a senior in high school at 6'2", and at the end of his freshman year in college he was 205 and verrrrrrry lean. Now 5 years later he is 230.
ONCE AGAIN, GLAD TO HEAR FROM ANOTHER BRUTHA IN IRON WITH SOME DECENT MUSCLE BUILDING GENETICS, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK BRUTHA!
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ONCE AGAIN, GLAD TO HEAR FROM ANOTHER BRUTHA IN IRON WITH SOME DECENT MUSCLE BUILDING GENETICS, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK BRUTHA!
Keep fightin the good fight, XL
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im 5'8 bro...why does everyone think people are small if there not as big as Ronnie Coleman? Im freaggin huge bro...ive never walked into a gym were I didnt draw a crowd of people asking me for training advice...i cant help it that I am a genetic freak!
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Keep fightin the good fight, XL
WILL DO BRUTHA!
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Actually I have awesome genetics clown so I have need for juice.I'm 225-230 ripped.Is there a reason to be 300 lbs, if u really are.If u asked 1000 women whose body was better,1000 would say me.
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I believe DoubleXL and the others that say they packed on 60-80lbs in a 1-1.5 yrs of training....one summer in college (approx 5.5 months) I added 25lbs of lean muscle with serious training, diet and minor supplementation. Some people are genetically predisposed to puttin on size, others have superhuman genetics that allow them to put on massive size, maintain a low bf % (<10%) and have an ideal X-frame for bb.....I currently weigh 295 lbs and I'm built like a powerlifter....just thick with decent shape and moderate bodyfat.....I'm no mesomorphic, x-framed bb with a genetic 6-pack since age 9....I'm a thick endomorph that can put on muscle just as quickly as bf and I have to eat clean year-round just to be considered "not fat" in the non-bb community.....it's cool and it sucks and that's it.
MOS
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Actually I have awesome genetics clown so I have need for juice.I'm 225-230 ripped.Is there a reason to be 300 lbs, if u really are.If u asked 1000 women whose body was better,1000 would say me.
ahaha...230 ripped natural...im calling bullshit you fag....you probably weigh like 130 and still live with your parents....girls dont like little bitches like you...its like looking in the mirror for them...haha
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HEY FREAKBB AND MEAT MONKEY, YOU GUYS HAVE TO POST PICS, YOU GUYS MUST BE THE BEST BODYBUILDERS EVER, THE NEXT MR OLYMPIAS RIGHT HERE, DORIAN YATES GAINED 70LBS OF MUSCLE AFTER 13 YEARS OF TRAINING SO ARE YOU GUYS TRYING TO SAY YOU HAVE BETTER GENETICS THAN 6 MR OLYMIA DORIAN YATES? YOU GUYS HAVE THE BEST GENETICS THIS SIDE OF COLEMAN AND YOU ARENT GOING TO TAKE YOUR SHIRT OFF AND POSE IN FRONT OF A MIRROR TAKE A PIC AND POST IT? IM CALLING BULLSHIT.
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HEY FREAKBB AND MEAT MONKEY, YOU GUYS HAVE TO POST PICS, YOU GUYS MUST BE THE BEST BODYBUILDERS EVER, THE NEXT MR OLYMPIAS RIGHT HERE, DORIAN YATES GAINED 70LBS OF MUSCLE AFTER 13 YEARS OF TRAINING SO ARE YOU GUYS TRYING TO SAY YOU HAVE BETTER GENETICS THAN 6 MR OLYMIA DORIAN YATES? YOU GUYS HAVE THE BEST GENETICS THIS SIDE OF COLEMAN AND YOU ARENT GOING TO TAKE YOUR SHIRT OFF AND POSE IN FRONT OF A MIRROR TAKE A PIC AND POST IT? IM CALLING BULLSHIT.
Kettle, this is Pot...
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I believe DoubleXL and the others that say they packed on 60-80lbs in a 1-1.5 yrs of training....one summer in college (approx 5.5 months) I added 25lbs of lean muscle with serious training, diet and minor supplementation. Some people are genetically predisposed to puttin on size, others have superhuman genetics that allow them to put on massive size, maintain a low bf % (<10%) and have an ideal X-frame for bb.....I currently weigh 295 lbs and I'm built like a powerlifter....just thick with decent shape and moderate bodyfat.....I'm no mesomorphic, x-framed bb with a genetic 6-pack since age 9....I'm a thick endomorph that can put on muscle just as quickly as bf and I have to eat clean year-round just to be considered "not fat" in the non-bb community.....it's cool and it sucks and that's it.
MOS
GOOD POST MAN OF STEEL, I GUESS MORE PEOPLE HERE HAVE DECENT GENETICS FOR BUILDING MUSCLE THAN I THOUGHT, KEEP IT UP BRUTHA!
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HEY FREAKBB AND MEAT MONKEY, YOU GUYS HAVE TO POST PICS, YOU GUYS MUST BE THE BEST BODYBUILDERS EVER, THE NEXT MR OLYMPIAS RIGHT HERE, DORIAN YATES GAINED 70LBS OF MUSCLE AFTER 13 YEARS OF TRAINING SO ARE YOU GUYS TRYING TO SAY YOU HAVE BETTER GENETICS THAN 6 MR OLYMIA DORIAN YATES? YOU GUYS HAVE THE BEST GENETICS THIS SIDE OF COLEMAN AND YOU ARENT GOING TO TAKE YOUR SHIRT OFF AND POSE IN FRONT OF A MIRROR TAKE A PIC AND POST IT? IM CALLING BULLSHIT.
you need some jerkin material?
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Anybody who think steroids take away from bodybuilding is a moron. Just look at the numbers of people who go to natural shows compared to those who go to shows where the athletes take steroids.
Who wants to go see a guy that is as big as themself anyway? To someone who doesn't train, the natural competitor may look big, but not to those who have been training for years.
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GOOD POST MAN OF STEEL, I GUESS MORE PEOPLE HERE HAVE DECENT GENETICS FOR BUILDING MUSCLE THAN I THOUGHT, KEEP IT UP BRUTHA!
In terms of bb I'm fat....in terms of non-bb's I'm not fat.....in terms of bb I'm big, but not huge.....in term of non-bb's I'm huge......I'm the guy you see in the gym all the time and think, "damn that dude's big." Then you see a pro or national bb next to me and you think, "oh, he's not as big as I thought." I weigh more than the bb, I push more weight than the bb, but the bb has such amazing shape, is tan and much leaner (hence the illusion created by bb....220 can look bigger than 320) that he looks bigger and better than me....it'll always be that way and there not much I can do about it.
MOS
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Your calling bullshit?Ok,275 lbs lean.Your a fukin joke, a circus freak for people to wisper at, a typical meathead.And women LOVE my body bro.
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That's what so f'kn stupid about Getbig.....any pics posted or claims made better represent bodybuilding perfection. You claim you gained 30lbs in 1 year, those pounds better be lean mass with not an oz. of bf mixed in.....if you also gained bf with your muscle you're crap and you claims completely negated. If you post a pic that pic better be damn near physical bb perfection; granted, that ideal of perfection will only be shared by 70% of the board....the other 30% will trash any pic posted....it's a board full of bullshitters that occassionally walk the walk, but always talk the talk ......that's why out of 1000 members (or whatever teh fuck the member count is) only 30 post pics....f'kn retarded if you ask me. Why won't I post a pic on Getbig? Duh, got a enough shit in my life. I don't need to read 200 posts, 197 of which tell me I look like shit and the other 3 tellin me, "good gains bro, keep up the good work!"
MOS
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I cant post a pic because ill have too many of you fags trollin around asking me if I do gay for pay...i dont need a bunch of muscle worshippers asking to empty my coin purse...fags
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I cant post a pic because ill have too many of you fags trollin around asking me if I do gay for pay...i dont need a bunch of muscle worshippers asking to empty my coin purse...fags
and i'm sure you turn them all down right, "freakBB", hahaha. ::)
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It's not hard to believe that he's 290lbs, because at 6 5" that's a very big frame. No one can have any idea how muscular he looks though.
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It's not hard to believe that he's 290lbs, because at 6 5" that's a very big frame. No one can have any idea how muscular he looks though.
6 FEET TALL, NOT 6 5, I LOOK...WELL... LIKE A BODYBUILDER.
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6 FEET TALL, NOT 6 5, I LOOK...WELL... LIKE A BODYBUILDER.
Really? that's very heavy for the height then.
What is your company, by the way?
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I CO OWN CONSTRUCTION COMPANY
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1200 a week isn't even close to 100g though.
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It's not hard to believe that he's 290lbs, because at 6 5" that's a very big frame. No one can have any idea how muscular he looks though.
Yep, I'm 6'4" and around 106kgs ATM. I don't look really big, but you could tell I train. I aim to get up to around 120kgs, which for my height is pretty good, but not stupidly big.
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1200 a week isn't even close to 100g though.
NO, ITS NOT, $1200 A WEEK IS WHAT I PAY MYSELF, I COULD PAY MYSELF ALOT MORE IF I WANTED, I PUT THE MAJORITY OF PROFITS INTO MY COMPANY TO MAKE IT GROW, EQUIPTMENT, MORE LABORERS, ADVERTISING ETC. THE MORE SUCCESFUL I GET, THE MORE ILL PAY MYSELF. FOR NOW ITS ALL ABOUT GROWING WHAT I DO HAVE.
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just got in ... what'd I miss?
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just got in ... what'd I miss?
240, "DIVISION" AND KNNY187 GOT OWNED.
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240, "DIVISION" AND KNNY187 GOT OWNED.
DoubleXS = Parroting Pawn.
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240=OWNED
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I CO OWN CONSTRUCTION COMPANY
bullshit...you own a dildo which you frequently shove up your ass ::) fag...double xl=bitch
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bullshit...you own a dildo which you frequently shove up your ass ::) fag...double xl=bitch
RELAX BRUTHA!
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bullshit...you own a dildo which you frequently shove up your ass ::) fag...double xl=bitch
Don't knock till you've tried it. ;)
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and i'm sure you turn them all down right, "freakBB", hahaha. ::)
why...you want some? i bet your the type of guy who goes into a gay bar and says (whos pitchin'..im catchin...any takers?) queer
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51031.0;id=52339;image)
Hmmmm... check #185. I see it's a long-established company. ::)
Also, given that he has access to the "company checks" at 9pm on a Saturday night, I'm guessing it's a one-man operation he's running out of a shoebox in his bedroom.
Does anyone else find it strange he has the ability to scan a check and post it on the internet, yet can't manage a pic?
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51031.0;id=52339;image)
Hmmmm... check #185. I see it's a long-established company.
Also, given that he has access to the "company checks" at 9pm on a Saturday night, I'm guessing it's a one-man operation he's running out of a shoebox in his bedroom.
Does anyone else find it strange he has the ability to scan a check and post it on the internet, yet can't manage a pic?
YES GOATBOY, THAT IS THE 185TH CHECK IVE EVER WROTE ::) DUMBASS.
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YES GOATBOY, THAT IS THE 185TH CHECK IVE EVER WROTE ::) DUMBASS.
Well, given that most bank accounts start with check #100, it would be the 85th.
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Also, given that he has access to the "company checks" at 9pm on a Saturday night, I'm guessing it's a one-man operation he's running out of a shoebox in his bedroom.
YES, I DO PAPERWORK, QUICKBOOKS, EVERYTHING ALL FROM MY HOUSE, IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH THAT?
Does anyone else find it strange he has the ability to scan a check and post it on the internet, yet can't manage a pic?
WHEN DID I SAY I COULDNT POST A PIC? WHERES YOUR PIC?
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Well, given that most bank accounts start with check #100, it would be the 85th.
BY ANY CHANCE, HAVE YOU EVER SWITCHED YOUR BANK? I HAVE, MAYBE THATS WHY, WHO KNOWS ::)
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I MEAN WE ALL CAN'T BE AS SUCCESFUL AS YOU "GOATBOY", HAHA, WHAT A CLOWN. THERES ALOT OF MONEY IN CONSTRUCTON, I HAVE 13 EMPLOYEES, I DO VERY WELL IN MY OPPINION, I NEVER CLAIMED TO BE SOME CONGLOMERATE COMPANY, IVE ONLY BEEN DOING THIS 2 YEARS AND IM 26 YOU CANT EXPECT ME TO BE RUNNING SOME MASSIVE OPERATION, BUT MY COMPANY IS WORTH OVER A MILLION, FYI.
GIVE ME SOME TIME GOATBOY, HOPEFULLY ONE DAY ILL BE AS SUCCESFUL AS YOU.
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HEY GOATBOY, MAYBE SOMETIME YOU CAN GIVE ME SOME TIPS ON HOW TO BE AS SUCCESFUL AS YOU, ID APPRECIATE IT.
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Using sauce was the worse decision I ever made, in my life. At a height of 6'5, I achieved a bodyweight of 315 lbs, true, but it was pointless because I don't have good bodybuilding genetics. Besides, for someone of my height and bone structure, 315 lbs is not really that extraordinary. Very big, yes, but nothing that made me look freakish.
As for the health thing, I sincerely don't know. My guess is that I'm probably all fucked up on the inside, even though I still look healthy outside. When I was saucing hardcore, I had a one rep max of 610 lbs, on the bench. Now that I'm sauce-free and down to 260 lbs, my strengh is way down, but I can still do a single with 440 lbs and I can do eight reps with four plates a side. Also, when I was saucing, I had a really, really bad temper.
On more than one occasion, I felt an undescribable urge to murder some of the posters of this board, for some commentaries they made at the time. In all honesty, if they were standing in front of me, I think I would have killed them. I'm dead serious, man. I thank my lucky stars they were away from me, because otherwise I'd be on death row, or facing a life-term. As an example, I killed my neighbors german shephard with my bare hands, by breaking his spine. Needpless to say, I'm being sued both for aggravated assault and property damage.
The bottom line is that sauce isn't worth it, man. You don't need it to get big; they are only indispensable if you need to be both huge AND ripped, simultaneously. For the professional bodybuilder, they are a necessity, because they need to display muscularity, which involves taking your bodyfat to really low levels. When you lose bodyfat, you also lose muscle. So, to SHOW large muscles, you definitely need sauce. Myself, I have never weighed above 240 lbs while being really, really ripped(4% bodyfat)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
You're a PRIME EXAMPLE of someone who shouldn't have been on it. ::)
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GIVE ME SOME TIME GOATBOY, HOPEFULLY ONE DAY ILL BE AS SUCCESFUL AS YOU.
That's unlikely, but don't get too down on yourself about it... statistically, most people aren't.
HEY GOATBOY, MAYBE SOMETIME YOU CAN GIVE ME SOME TIPS ON HOW TO BE AS SUCCESFUL AS YOU, ID APPRECIATE IT.
Okay, here's some advice:
Go back to high school, and graduate this time (pay particular attention in English class, as I'm guessing that's what fuccked you up the first time around). Then, go get a degree (from a real college, not a "community" or "state" school). Lastly, go get a masters from a top Ivy-league school.
After you've done all this, get back to me and I'll share step #2 with you.
::)
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I WANT TO BE SUCCESSFUL WHO WANTS TO TEACH ME?
ASK GOATBOY BRUTHA! I MEAN ITS OBVIOUS THAT GOATBOY IS SUCCESFUL, HE POSTS ON THE X-BOARD ALL DAY, STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT MORE OFTEN THAN NOT PEOPLE WHO POST DOWN AT THE X-BOARD ARE OF A MUCH HIGHER CLASS THAN THE AVERAGE CITZEN. I HEAR THE CEO OF TOYOTA POSTS THERE UNDER THE HANDLE "GEO".
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Hahahaha. " The roids got me all angry and I killed my neighbours dog "
Yeah, I'm sure it was the sauce.
I bet this fag used that excuse because he's a closet psycho. Not to mention he was 315lb fat f**k who was a walking heart attack.
He probably would have blamed suace for a heart attack too. Hahaha, what a fag.
If I'm fag, what are you. I mean, at least I don't keep sucking on Goatboy's dick continuously like you, nor am I made a bitch by everyone here like you, again and again. Have you no shame? Just on this thread, you have been owned so many times it seems they have put you on auction. Go back to drinking men milk, cun t, so that maybe, someday, you might weight 100 lbs.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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You're a PRIME EXAMPLE of someone who shouldn't have been on it. ::)
There are MANY prime examples, like me. Go ahead and sauce, fucktard, and you might end up killing your lover-boy.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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suckmymuscle, why did u kill ur neighbours dog? Just curious. As u can probably tell from my avatar, I'm a dog lover.
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In terms of bb I'm fat....in terms of non-bb's I'm not fat.....in terms of bb I'm big, but not huge.....in term of non-bb's I'm huge......I'm the guy you see in the gym all the time and think, "damn that dude's big." Then you see a pro or national bb next to me and you think, "oh, he's not as big as I thought." I weigh more than the bb, I push more weight than the bb, but the bb has such amazing shape, is tan and much leaner (hence the illusion created by bb....220 can look bigger than 320) that he looks bigger and better than me....it'll always be that way and there not much I can do about it.
I am in the same boat as you, bro.
No matter how clean I eat, I will never be cut, genetically it's just not there for me.
Even when I was in the Army running 3+ miles per day and lifting at night I was not cut. Granted I was in great shape, but no abs, even though my BF% was low. I'm not predisposed to the cut look.
I lift for strength now and do cardio just to keep my heart healthy. I am like you, large, but by no means a bodybuilder. On AAS, I get denser and stronger, but my overall shape doesn't change much. It's mainly strength that changes for me.
DIV
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That's unlikely, but don't get too down on yourself about it... statistically, most people aren't.
Okay, here's some advice:
Go back to high school, and graduate this time (pay particular attention in English class, as I'm guessing that's what fuccked you up the first time around). Then, go get a degree (from a real college, not a "community" or "state" school). Lastly, go get a masters from a top Ivy-league school.
After you've done all this, get back to me and I'll share step #2 with you.
::)
for somebody so rich and successful you are awfully bitter about the owning Kamali gave you at tyson's corner in D.C. ::)
your maid must not know the proper way to fluff your pillows :D
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I MEAN WE ALL CAN'T BE AS SUCCESFUL AS YOU "GOATBOY", HAHA, WHAT A CLOWN. THERES ALOT OF MONEY IN CONSTRUCTON, I HAVE 13 EMPLOYEES, I DO VERY WELL IN MY OPPINION, I NEVER CLAIMED TO BE SOME CONGLOMERATE COMPANY, IVE ONLY BEEN DOING THIS 2 YEARS AND IM 26 YOU CANT EXPECT ME TO BE RUNNING SOME MASSIVE OPERATION, BUT MY COMPANY IS WORTH OVER A MILLION, FYI.
GIVE ME SOME TIME GOATBOY, HOPEFULLY ONE DAY ILL BE AS SUCCESFUL AS YOU.
Hey nice. a cool mil.
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Ming...Double XS, just post your god damn lousy ass pic so we can all f with you ...we need something to cheer us all up....
u r owned
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There are MANY prime examples, like me. Go ahead and sauce, fucktard, and you might end up killing your lover-boy.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
And there are MANY who are RESPONSIBLE. I think I just pushed this clown's "sensitive" button. :-*
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And there are MANY who are RESPONSIBLE. I think I just pushed this clown's "sensitive" button. :-*
Shut the fuck up. Your posts make you a poster boy, for mental retardation. I was replying to the thread starter's question and you, having nothing to contribute, made an idiotic attack on me.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Shut the f**k up. Your posts make you a poster boy, for mental retardation. I was replying to the thread starter's question and you, having nothing to contribute, made an idiotic attack on me.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Awwwww.... I'm sorry. :'(
I feel so bad. Really. I do. ::)
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Doubtful XS,
You feel the need to validate your claims of business ownership with continued posting of company checks with member names on them.
However, you can't scan a pic of yourself to back up the single biggest claim in getbig history, that you gained 75 pounds and are at 290 today.
Doubtful XS
Doubtful XS
Doubtful XS
Doubtful XS
Doubtful XS
Doubtful XS
Doubtful XS
Doubtful XS
Doubtful XS
Doubtful XS
Doubtful XS
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NO, ACTUALLY THERE ARENT ALOT OF PEOPLE BIGGER THAN ME BRUTHA, IVE NEVER COME IN CONTACT WITH ANYONE BIGGER THAN ME. BELIVE IT OR NOT, THEIR ARENT MANY 290LB+ BODYBUILDERS OUT THERE, EVEN 230LBS OF MUSCLE LIKE YOUSELF IS RARE.
damn if you are that big then I stand corrected that is very freakin huge but none the less everyone should have some humility to keep them grounded
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Doubtful XS,
You feel the need to validate your claims of business ownership with continued posting of company checks with member names on them.
However, you can't scan a pic of yourself to back up the single biggest claim in getbig history, that you gained 75 pounds and are at 290 today.
Doubtful XS
Doubtful XS
Doubtful XS
Doubtful XS
Doubtful XS
Doubtful XS
Doubtful XS
Doubtful XS
Doubtful XS
Doubtful XS
Doubtful XS
LOL, HAHAHA!
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damn if you are that big then I stand corrected that is very freakin huge but none the less everyone should have some humility to keep them grounded
I AGREE BRUTHA!
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WHEN I SAID IM 290LBS, WERE YOU GUYS THINKING IM LIKE A RONNIE COLEMAN 290LBS? LOL! YOU GUYS ARE IDIOTS.
I just figured you were a fat fuck
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for somebody so rich and successful you are awfully bitter about the owning Kamali gave you at tyson's corner in D.C. ::)
your maid must not know the proper way to fluff your pillows :D
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He actually has a gay butler named "Lance" that fluffs something else
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He actually has a gay butler named "Lance" that fluffs something else
Fluffy Kitty...... :)
DIV
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Easy Div....I don't want you to hurt yourself typing on my behalf
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He actually has a gay butler named "Lance" that fluffs something else
Holy dog-spine-snapping Batman; that was a low blow,
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Holy dog-spine-snapping Batman; that was a low blow,
SUCKMYMUSCLE = Latin for Caninus Vertabroken.
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;D
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Using sauce was the worse decision I ever made, in my life. At a height of 6'5, I achieved a bodyweight of 315 lbs, true, but it was pointless because I don't have good bodybuilding genetics. Besides, for someone of my height and bone structure, 315 lbs is not really that extraordinary. Very big, yes, but nothing that made me look freakish.
As for the health thing, I sincerely don't know. My guess is that I'm probably all fucked up on the inside, even though I still look healthy outside. When I was saucing hardcore, I had a one rep max of 610 lbs, on the bench. Now that I'm sauce-free and down to 260 lbs, my strengh is way down, but I can still do a single with 440 lbs and I can do eight reps with four plates a side. Also, when I was saucing, I had a really, really bad temper.
On more than one occasion, I felt an undescribable urge to murder some of the posters of this board, for some commentaries they made at the time. In all honesty, if they were standing in front of me, I think I would have killed them. I'm dead serious, man. I thank my lucky stars they were away from me, because otherwise I'd be on death row, or facing a life-term. As an example, I killed my neighbors german shephard with my bare hands, by breaking his spine. Needpless to say, I'm being sued both for aggravated assault and property damage.
The bottom line is that sauce isn't worth it, man. You don't need it to get big; they are only indispensable if you need to be both huge AND ripped, simultaneously. For the professional bodybuilder, they are a necessity, because they need to display muscularity, which involves taking your bodyfat to really low levels. When you lose bodyfat, you also lose muscle. So, to SHOW large muscles, you definitely need sauce. Myself, I have never weighed above 240 lbs while being really, really ripped(4% bodyfat)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
You killed a dog?
Ummm, can i ask why?
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You killed a dog?
Ummm, can i ask why?
for fuck sake, of course he didn't he's a lying sack of monkey shit just hacking away on his keyboard hoping for some attention. sad, sad little man he is.
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brutal old stuff
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for fuck sake, of course he didn't he's a lying sack of monkey shit just hacking away on his keyboard hoping for some attention. sad, sad little man he is.
that lying prick....made me dig up an old thread too....that's it, he's officially on my shit-list
apologies for digging up a useless thread
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You killed a dog?
Using sauce was the worse decision I ever made, in my life. At a height of 6'5, I achieved a bodyweight of 315 lbs, true, but it was pointless because I don't have good bodybuilding genetics. Besides, for someone of my height and bone structure, 315 lbs is not really that extraordinary. Very big, yes, but nothing that made me look freakish.
As for the health thing, I sincerely don't know. My guess is that I'm probably all fucked up on the inside, even though I still look healthy outside. When I was saucing hardcore, I had a one rep max of 610 lbs, on the bench. Now that I'm sauce-free and down to 260 lbs, my strengh is way down, but I can still do a single with 440 lbs and I can do eight reps with four plates a side. Also, when I was saucing, I had a really, really bad temper.
On more than one occasion, I felt an undescribable urge to murder some of the posters of this board, for some commentaries they made at the time. In all honesty, if they were standing in front of me, I think I would have killed them. I'm dead serious, man. I thank my lucky stars they were away from me, because otherwise I'd be on death row, or facing a life-term. As an example, I killed my neighbors german shephard with my bare hands, by breaking his spine. Needpless to say, I'm being sued both for aggravated assault and property damage.
The bottom line is that sauce isn't worth it, man. You don't need it to get big; they are only indispensable if you need to be both huge AND ripped, simultaneously. For the professional bodybuilder, they are a necessity, because they need to display muscularity, which involves taking your bodyfat to really low levels. When you lose bodyfat, you also lose muscle. So, to SHOW large muscles, you definitely need sauce. Myself, I have never weighed above 240 lbs while being really, really ripped(4% bodyfat)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Using sauce was the worse decision I ever made, in my life. At a height of 6'5, I achieved a bodyweight of 315 lbs, true, but it was pointless because I don't have good bodybuilding genetics. Besides, for someone of my height and bone structure, 315 lbs is not really that extraordinary. Very big, yes, but nothing that made me look freakish.
As for the health thing, I sincerely don't know. My guess is that I'm probably all fucked up on the inside, even though I still look healthy outside. When I was saucing hardcore, I had a one rep max of 610 lbs, on the bench. Now that I'm sauce-free and down to 260 lbs, my strengh is way down, but I can still do a single with 440 lbs and I can do eight reps with four plates a side. Also, when I was saucing, I had a really, really bad temper.
On more than one occasion, I felt an undescribable urge to murder some of the posters of this board, for some commentaries they made at the time. In all honesty, if they were standing in front of me, I think I would have killed them. I'm dead serious, man. I thank my lucky stars they were away from me, because otherwise I'd be on death row, or facing a life-term. As an example, I killed my neighbors german shephard with my bare hands, by breaking his spine. Needpless to say, I'm being sued both for aggravated assault and property damage.
The bottom line is that sauce isn't worth it, man. You don't need it to get big; they are only indispensable if you need to be both huge AND ripped, simultaneously. For the professional bodybuilder, they are a necessity, because they need to display muscularity, which involves taking your bodyfat to really low levels. When you lose bodyfat, you also lose muscle. So, to SHOW large muscles, you definitely need sauce. Myself, I have never weighed above 240 lbs while being really, really ripped(4% bodyfat)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
LOL, this one is really a classic.
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lolol that's a jokes post, web of lies
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.......you decide that you wanted to juice?
Were you ever worried about your health?
What finally pushed you over the edge?
I'm really just curious, not hating.
do you still wanna know??
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Did you not just see the picture I just posted????
hahaha yeah the one you stole ?
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Damn these old threads have potential....
We should bump all threads of 2005-2006 and revive the old getbig.
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Did you not just see the picture I just posted????
frozzor, i'm confused. the rear lat pic you posted earlier in this thread is a modified pic of "Praetorian", a beyondmass.com mod and a canadian competitive BB. the photo can be seen at the below link for those that are not beyondmass members.
http://www.ironlife.com/mag/issue16/bbquestion.shtml
yet, earlier in this thread you said that you are not interested in competing and futhermore an AAS rookie. however, by praetorian's posts, it seems he is not only a competitor but also no stranger to AAS. it seems you either are praetorian and lying about your supplementation, or are not praetorian and lying about your pics. can you clear up the confusion?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=40689.0;attach=71146;image)
praetorian.jpg
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=40689.0;attach=71147;image)
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Fun while it lasted.
Peace.
Frozzor, u peice of shit.
HAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH AHAHAHAHAHAH
what a queer
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The thing with drugs is that you look fantastic on and like shit off. So it begins a long period of juicing and cycling off. You can do it for 10 plus years before it effects your health. Believe me you don't want to be that 50 year old loser sticking a needle in your ass so idiots can say you look buff. If you need that affirmation you are beyond a loser.