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LOL what a dumb fuck country you criminals have LOL...
Thanks for setting a precedent :D
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Alex23
stalking an
entire country
now i see
post europes
or chicagos
statistics also
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LOL what a dumb fuck country you criminals have LOL...
Thanks for setting a precedent :D
I don't think Australians wanted it, but it's hard to fight the powerful world elite that desperately wants us all disarmed.
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I don't think Australians wanted it, but it's hard to fight the powerful world elite that desperately wants us all disarmed.
Oh absolutely... I was referring to the government, not the great ppl of Australia. Unfortunately, Common wealth based systems make it very difficult to protest.
You guys need Ted Nugent. Destroying ScrotumPierced Morgmen.
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Alex23
stalking an
entire country
now i see
post europes
or chicagos
statistics also
Far from a fair comparison Maddy!
There are over 2,000 crimes recorded per 100,000 population in the U.K., compared to 466 violent crimes per 100,000" in the United States.
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Yeah instead of just aussie females
stfu old cracked leathery delusional caunt. Only happened in your aging head.
Go put another layer of foundation on that orange skin, cracked thing you call a face.
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stfu old cracked leathery delusional caunt. Only happened in your aging head.
Go put another layer of foundation on that orange skin, cracked thing you call a face.
Alex23
showing his
true side
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(http://www.abc.net.au/news/linkableblob/4905120/data/chart3a-deaths-resulting-from-firearms-data.jpg)
abs = Australian Bureau of Statistics.
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Did Alex ever find out who shot a bullet through his windscreen. I mean why would anyone do that?
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They had a gun amnesty here in Oz when everyone except the criminals handed in their weapons. So you stats make sense.
It is almost impossible to own a hand gun. No pump action shotguns, just double barrel, no auto rifles. Even slug guns are illegal without a permit.
Australia's gun laws suck, we are not allowed to protect our family or property.
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Crime rates were on their way down, the gun ban had absolutely no affect. That's irrelevant though, you don't take away people's rights because there are criminals.
(http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/95553f4ed9b60a374a2568030012e707/4524a092e30e4486ca2569de00256331/Body/13.4240!OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=gif)
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They had a gun amnesty here in Oz when everyone except the criminals handed in their weapons. So you stats make sense.
It is almost impossible to own a hand gun. No pump action shotguns, just double barrel, no auto rifles. Even slug guns are illegal without a permit.
Australia's gun laws suck, we are not allowed to protect our family or property.
Wow, sickening. So what do hunters or even workers in dangerous areas in the outback do? :-\
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Since 1968, at least 1.4 million Americans have been killed by guns—more than all the U.S.'s accumulated war dead in that same period. Any way you look at it, 2013 was another killer year for arms manufacturers and armed bullies.
There is much debate over how to define a "mass shooting." The FBI classifies a mass murder as four fatalities, not including the killer. Mother Jones uses that, plus several situational criteria, for a mass shooting. The Redditors at "Guns Are Cool" considers any time four people are shot (not killed) a mass shooting, and with good reason: "The most obscene incidents of gun violence usually do not make the mainstream news at all."
Even by the stringent federal criteria—which we use below, representing but a fraction of all U.S. victims of gun violence—this has been a bloody year.
January
7 - Tulsa, Oklahoma: Four women ranging in ages from 23 to 55 were found in their apartment shot dead with their hands tied behind their backs. A pair of brothers was arrested for allegedly robbing and killing them.
19 - Albuquerque, New Mexico: 15-year-old Nehemiah Gringo allegedly used an AR-15 to kill his entire family—his gang-member-turned-preacher father, his mother, a 9-year-old brother, and two sisters, ages 5 and 2. He also reportedly had plans to shoot up a Walmart.
March
13 - Herkimer, New York: A 64-year-old "loner" died in a gun-battle with police after he killed four at a barbershop and oil-lube shop. He also killed a 2-year-old police dog, Ape, before succumbing.
April
18 - Akron, Ohio: Two men and two women ranging in ages from 19 to 23 were lined up in their basement and shot in the head point-blank. Two men have been arrested in connection with the murders.
22 - Federal Way, Washington: A man with a carry license killed his girlfriend, then shot three other neighbors in her apartment complex to death before himself being killed by shots from eight police officers.
24 - Manchester, Illinois: A man angered over a custody dispute killed five of his daughter's mother's family members in their home, then led police on a high-speed chase. He later died in officers' custody.
28 - Ottawa, Kansas: A man allegedly murdered his best friend and a roommate before raping the best friend's girlfriend, then shooting her and her 18-month-old daughter to death. The shooter, who awaits trial, says he "ain't never hurt no man that didn't have it coming."
May
11 - Waynesville, Indiana: Four people were shot in their rural home. After a search of the home turned up meth, police concluded the killings were drug-related. The following month, a suspect who was already in jail was arrested for the murders.
13 - Fernley, Nevada: A man killed two couples in their homes over Mother's Day weekend, burning their houses. He also slew a newspaper deliveryman and stole his truck.
June
7 - Santa Monica, California: An emotionally troubled 23-year-old with 1,300 rounds of ammunition killed his father and brother before going on a rampage that killed three more at Santa Monica College. The gunman was killed on campus by police.
July
26 - Hialeah, Florida: A workout enthusiast under scrutiny for sending abusive emails to an ex-employer killed the husband-and-wife managers of his apartment, then murdered four more neighbors before taking hostages. He was killed by police; the hostages were unharmed.
26 - Clarksburg, West Virginia: A gunman killed two in a suspected drug house, then while fleeing shot and killed a 70-year-old man and his 47-year-old son who were in the neighborhood to deliver the local paper.
August
7 - Dallas, Texas: A former teacher and football coach killed his girlfriend, estranged wife, and two of their children before police arrested him.
14 - Oklahoma City: A "weird" 40-year-old man killed his mother, sister, niece, and a 7-month-old nephew with a .380 pistol. He currently awaits trial.
September
11 - Crab Orchard, Tennessee: A man and a woman were arrested for killing four people, ages 16 to 22, in their car during a robbery that followed a botched marijuana deal.
16 - Washington, D.C.: A military contractor who claimed to hear voices murdered 12 ex-coworkers with a sawed-off shotgun at the federal Navy Yard before he was killed by police.
20 - Rice, Texas: A woman killed her husband, their three sons, and herself in their apartment. The husband had been arrested for a domestic violence charge two weeks before.
October
9 - Paris, Texas: Four people were found dead in a home; it's not yet clear what transpired or who killed them.
26 - Phoenix, Arizona: A man who was allegedly thrown into a rage over the neighbors' two barking dogs killed the animals, then his four neighbors, then himself with a pump-action shotgun.
28 - Terrell, Texas: A man who "appeared to be intoxicated" killed five people, including a convenience store clerk, at four locations before police caught him.
29 - Callison, South Carolina: A man killed his ex-girlfriend, her parents, and two of her children before taking his own life.
November
7 - Jacksonville, Florida: Two men and their girlfriends were killed in what appeared to be a planned drive-by shooting. The suspects are at large.
23 - Tulsa, Oklahoma: Four people were killed in a suspected meth house. No suspects have been arrested.
December
1 - Topeka, Kansas: Four people were killed at a house in the town's southwest section. No suspects have been named.
3 - Alma, Arkansas: After arriving home with them, a man killed his daughter's boyfriend in the car, then killed his 4-month-old grandson while he lay in his car seat. He pursued his daughter and four-year-old granddaughter into the backyard, killing the granddaughter before turning the gun on himself.
3 - Erwin, Tennessee: A man with a record of domestic unrest killed his wife, son, and daughter before committing suicide.
8 - Manchester, Connecticut: A man killed his ex-girlfriend and two friends, then fled with the couple's 13-month-old child. When confronted outside by police, he set the child down on the ground and fatally shot himself.
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(http://www.abc.net.au/news/linkableblob/4905120/data/chart3a-deaths-resulting-from-firearms-data.jpg)
abs = Australian Bureau of Statistics.
Derpy stastistic.
Crime in general went up, including homicides and robberies, but gun crime went down. Well no shit. Great success there!
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Be quiet, the first world citizens are talking.
The homocide rate in the US is 3.6 per 100,000 compared to 18.1 in your homeland. I think you've got enough to worry about, without constantly thinking about us... lol
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Be quiet, the first world citizens are talking.
The homocide rate in the US is 3.6 per 100,000 compared to 18.1 in your homeland. I think you've got enough to worry about, without constantly thinking about us... lol
Oh! I'm sorry did I struck a nerve? truth hurts?
Good day . Sir 8)
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Wow, sickening. So what do hunters or even workers in dangerous areas in the outback do? :-\
Hunters have single shot rifles. Outback workers can have double barrel shotguns but no hand guns except for competition shooting.
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Be quiet, the first world citizens are talking.
The homocide rate in the US is 3.6 per 100,000 compared to 18.1 in your homeland. I think you've got enough to worry about, without constantly thinking about us... lol
Yea not sure what his point is. Every single "case" mentioned above was with criminal intent, most of them perpetrated with illegal firearms.
And that's whole point; freedom to defend yourself, many of these deaths could've been avoided if victims were armed.
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(http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/files/2012/12/firearm-OECD-UN-data3.jpg)
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A lot more have been killed in the name of "a woman's right to choose" than by firearms.
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(http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/files/2012/12/firearm-OECD-UN-data3.jpg)
again, derpy statistic.
there is more gun violence in a nation with guns. No shit sherlock. The goal isnt to reduce gun violence, its to reduce CRIME.
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Yea not sure what his point is. Every single "case" mentioned above was with criminal intent, most of them perpetrated with illegal firearms.
And that's whole point; freedom to defend yourself, many of these deaths could've been avoided if victims were armed.
My point is: Those people were not criminals " just regular people that kill someone". of course after the killing they became criminals.
So if we put together the "real" number... it would be higher.
Did you get my point? 8)
Oh!! and in case you are wondering why I'm talking about Murica's business? because I can.
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(http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/files/2012/12/firearm-OECD-UN-data3.jpg)
You're really good at presenting incomplete information.
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My point is: Those people were not criminals " just regular people that kill someone". of course after the killing they became criminals.
So if we put together the "real" number... it would be higher.
Did you get my point? 8)
Oh!! and in case you are wondering why I'm talking about Murica's business? because I can.
whatever gets you through the night, sunshine
in case you are wondering why no one is talking about your country's business? because nobody gives a shit
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You're really good at presenting incomplete information.
or obvious and irrelevant information
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or obvious and irrelevant information
lol yeah
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My point is: Those people were not criminals " just regular people that kill someone". of course after the killing they became criminals.
7 - Tulsa, Oklahoma: Four women ranging in ages from 23 to 55 were found in their apartment shot dead with their hands tied behind their backs. A pair of brothers was arrested for allegedly robbing and killing them.
Yea sounds like "first time criminal" ::)
Which btw could've been avoided if one of the four women had a CCW.
Case closed.
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whatever gets you through the night, sunshine
in case you are wondering why no one is talking about your country's business? because nobody gives a shit
Really? so why you're government continues to spy on us? and why you guys keeping begging us for oil?
You should tell your government to to stop that.. oops i have forgot you can't do that. lol
That absence of democracy is definetly a b*tch.
;D
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Really? so why you're government continues to spy on us? and why you guys keeping begging us for oil?
You should tell your government to to stop that.. oops i have forgot you can't do that. lol
That absence of democracy is definetly a b*tch.
;D
Keep deluding yourself, towel head.
If we really wanted your oil, we would just take it, and you would thank us for doing so.
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Yea sounds like "first time criminal" ::)
Which btw could've been avoided if one of the four women had a CCW.
Case closed.
Wow!! one case? I'm so ammused how smart you are. ::) your parents must be really proud of you.
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Australia, much respect. We got Vince, booty, and Tony, all very intelligent Aussies. And then we got Mr. Teutonic Knight. Can you guys please explain this illegible oddity?
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You Americans are obsessed with Guns. This thread is just deja-vu. The stats provided at the start of this thread are just made up, hence the reason they have no link to the source reference. Back in 2000 the Australian Attorney General Daryl Williams accused the NRA of falsifying Australian government statistics and urged the NRA to "remove any reference to Australia" from its website.
The majority of gun crime today is between rival bikie gangs and organised criminals. The majority of Australia are for gun control as they recognise the need to live in a society without regular mass shooting or school shootings as more important than owning a gun for the unlikely need for self defense in the home. Since the legislation there has been NO MASS Shootings.
Having said that, gun control is unlikely to work in USA, there are already too many guns in circulation and the average American is borderline Crazy.
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Keep deluding yourself, towel head.
If we really wanted your oil, we would just take it, and you would thank us for doing so.
Towel head? another ignorant Murican. lol
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Really? so why you're government continues to spy on us? and why you guys keeping begging us for oil?
You should tell your government to to stop that.. oops i have forgot you can't do that. lol
That absence of democracy is definetly a b*tch.
;D
No offense bro, but i dont really think you guys are in a position to throw stones with regards to crime rates OR democracy.
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Wow!! one case? I'm so ammused how smart you are. ::) your parents must be really proud of you.
No need to try to insult me chief, nothing against you, just trying to straight out the facts.
Maybe you should watch this again and educate yourself on the subject.
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No offense bro, but i dont really think you guys are in a position to throw stones with regards to crime rates OR democracy.
Crimes? I'm not so sure. democracy definetly yes. no arguments shock.
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Towel head? another ignorant Murican. lol
::) take a pill and go lie down, junior
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No need to try to insult me chief, nothing against you, just trying to straight out the facts.
Maybe you should watch this again and educate yourself on the subject.
Not insulting you. nothing against you.
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Australia, much respect. We got Vince, booty, and Tony, all very intelligent Aussies. And then we got Mr. Teutonic Knight. Can you guys please explain this illegible oddity?
What is it with this guy fucking with you all the time bro?
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Australia, much respect. We got Vince, booty, and Tony, all very intelligent Aussies. And then we got Mr. Teutonic Knight. Can you guys please explain this illegible oddity?
lol
I like Teutonic Knight but he reminds me of G Thang.
Getbig is dominated by extrordinary Aussies, Swedes, and Brits!!
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::) take a pill and go lie down, junior
Will do mom.
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Sure mom.
talking to your avatar again?
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The leader of the USA gun nuts is even worse than you lot:
"“I call on Congress today, to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation”
Good luck, America. Enjoy digging yourself out of this mess you've made. Wake me up when you have your next school gun rampage. It should be any week now ...
(There are at least two things that should never be discussed with americans: evolution, and guns)
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talking to your avatar again?
How do you know?
Wanna know how i know she is my mom? first of all that is my father f*cking her and she doesn't swallow.
Yours in the other hand...has a drive thru. ;D
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How do you know?
Wanna know how i know she is my mom? first of all that is my father f*cking her and she doesn't swallow.
Yours in the other hand...has a drive thru. ;D
when your dad makes a donation at the sperm bank he either spits 'em or shits 'em
now go kill yourself...you don't even have to use a gun if you find them objectionable
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How do you know?
Wanna know how i know she is my mom? first of all that is my father f*cking her and she doesn't swallow.
Pretty fucked up lol
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when your dad makes a donation at the sperm bank he either spits 'em or shits 'em
now go kill yourself...you don't even have to use a gun if you find them objectionable
My dad went to a sperm bank once in Murica... it is you... my bastard brother.lol ;D
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Pretty fucked up lol
Thank you, Sir.
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No need to try to insult me chief, nothing against you, just trying to straight out the facts.
Maybe you should watch this again and educate yourself on the subject.
Fuck me, just watched that clip, you Americans really can't see it can you. Ted Nugent, by his very demeanor and obvious mental instability is the perfect argument for gun control. DO you really want people like that owning guns? America really is a crazy place full of scared people. The way they view everything is ass backwards. Human beings are vulnerable, you can't defend yourself against every threat out there, I mean what happens to people like Ted when they get Cancer or some other terminal illness, they will be rage filled, realising that not everything can be defended against. I think the big part of the problem is Americans refuse to accept the vulnerability that is simply a part of being human, possibly because they don't see DEATH as a real thing.
Guys like Ted really come across as scared little boys. This whole argument of defense is ludicrous because the people he is defending himself against will also have guns and then Ted no longer has the advantage, all that's happened is the situation has now been escalated and the combatants now on a level playing field.
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Australia is still very safe, very rarely is there shootings, if there is its repeated on the news for 1 month.
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This whole argument of defense is ludicrous because the people he is defending himself against will also have guns and then Ted no longer has the advantage, all that's happened is the situation has now been escalated and the combatants now on a level playing field.
You're missing the point and made his point; it's not about having an "advantage", it's about having a chance to defend yourself. Criminals will ALWAYS have guns, legal or not.
You must be European.
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You're missing the point and made his point; it's not about having an "advantage", it's about having a chance to defend yourself. Criminals will ALWAYS have guns, legal or not.
You must be European.
But the crimes are most commited by nom criminals that have guns "legaly".
For instance...school shootings.
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What is it with this guy fucking with you all the time bro?
I think he thinks I'm an Aborigine, or something. He hates blacks is all, which I'm obviously not, and he's pissed that I called him out for stalking Wiggs and anabolichalo. I stopped with the guy, but he started up with me again. Sorry, Wes.
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But the crimes are most commited by nom criminals that have guns "legaly".
For instance...school shootings.
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Silicone muscles. really? is that the best you can do...gimmick?
Bodybuilders are full of oil. lol.
And trannies have you heard Miami,Vegas,Los Angeles and NY? just to point some cities.
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You're missing the point and made his point; it's not about having an "advantage", it's about having a chance to defend yourself. Criminals will ALWAYS have guns, legal or not.
You must be European.
I'm Australian. No doubt finding yourself a victim of a crime with gun wielding assailants would be terrifying. I could be wrong, but generally people waving a gun around as a threat want something, like bank robbers want cash. Now if I have a gun I automatically become a target and a threat to the criminal, he is definitely going to want to take me out now. Their may be times when you are able to take out such a criminal, but I am sure their are just as many times when the criminal takes you out because of it. This is the reason bank clerks hand over money, just do what the crook wants and nobody gets hurt (lol)
Now crazed psychotic gunmen going on a mass shooting spree in schools or theatres is different, these types of shooters won't respond to compliance or anyone for that matter. Here in Australia our gun control has so far prevented a mass shooting since legislation was introduced. Australia had 13 gun massacres in the 18 years before the 1996 gun reforms, but has not suffered any mass shootings since.
Will that work in America, I don't think so. America is too awash with guns and the gun culture is literally a mental illness. Essentially America is fucked, they will just have to lie in the bloody bed they have made and argue eternally amongst themselves after every regular mass shooting. It is sad to watch a culture self implode like that. You would think that the fear based school culture with armed guards, metal detectors and the like would have been an indication of a wrong turn taken somewhere. Not only does America have to worry about terrorism from without due to it's foreign policy, it has to worry about terrorism from within due to federal policy.
Guns are tools of fear, the more afraid the population, the more they will want guns. The more people want guns the more fear is generated and round and round we go. The only way to reduce that is to face the fear and live without guns. But Americans are too afraid to live without guns. To live without guns in a culture like America's would take courage, something that is sorely lacking in the average Americans personal constitution.
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I'm Australian. No doubt finding yourself a victim of a crime with gun wielding assailants would be terrifying. I could be wrong, but generally people waving a gun around as a threat want something, like bank robbers want cash. Now if I have a gun I automatically become a target and a threat to the criminal, he is definitely going to want to take me out now. Their may be times when you are able to take out such a criminal, but I am sure their are just as many times when the criminal takes you out because of it. This is the reason bank clerks hand over money, just do what the crook wants and nobody gets hurt (lol)
Now crazed psychotic gunmen going on a mass shooting spree in schools or theatres is different, these types of shooters won't respond to compliance or anyone for that matter. Here in Australia our gun control has so far prevented a mass shooting since legislation was introduced. Australia had 13 gun massacres in the 18 years before the 1996 gun reforms, but has not suffered any mass shootings since.
Will that work in America, I don't think so. America is too awash with guns and the gun culture is literally a mental illness. Essentially America is fucked, they will just have to lie in the bloody bed they have made and argue eternally amongst themselves after every regular mass shooting. It is sad to watch a culture self implode like that. You would think that the fear based school culture with armed guards, metal detectors and the like would have been an indication of a wrong turn taken somewhere. Not only does America have to worry about terrorism from without due to it's foreign policy, it has to worry about terrorism from within due to federal policy.
Guns are tools of fear, the more afraid the population, the more they will want guns. The more people want guns the more fear is generated and round and round we go. The only way to reduce that is to face the fear and live without guns. But Americans are too afraid to live without guns. To live without guns in a culture like America's would take courage, something that is sorely lacking in the average Americans personal constitution.
You obviously don't have Messicans and Hebrews in your country. Need our guns, bro.
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You obviously don't have Messicans and Hebrews in your country. Need our guns, bro.
You sound scared bro!
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You sound scared bro!
At times, fucken A.
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Just like everything guns are useless until you need them. Any man who has a family should have at least a rifle or a handgun. Or it means he s not really a man or doesnt really love his family. Firearms are just tools. What you have in your head decides what you ll do with them. And what you have in your head depends of the society, family, you ve been living in.
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Australia is probably the best country to live in on the planet. Summer most of the year, great beaches and scenery and lots of open space. The women are great, too!
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Okay well you are not up here where it's a million degrees celisus Vince. And I was going to add that who needs a gun when you can always use one of those seafood crackers in self defense. ;D
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And trannies have you heard Miami,Vegas,Los Angeles and NY? just to point some cities.
You sure know a lot about trannies... :-X
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I will be up north next week. Anything worth photographing in Mackay besides yourself, Booty?
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I will be up north next week. Anything worth photographing in Mackay besides yourself, Booty?
She's not falling for it you creep...
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I will be up north next week. Anything worth photographing in Mackay besides yourself, Booty?
Obviously the beaches...they are breathtaking. Capes hillsborough has kangaroos and they are very tame. You can get up close with them...they are used to people generation after generation. Airlie beach is worth going to, you can take a boat accross to the islands...either a day trip or overnighter. Snorkel on the great barrier reef would be the go too.
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Australia is probably the best country to live in on the planet. Summer most of the year, great beaches and scenery and lots of open space. The women are great, too!
but no guns.
;D
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Just like everything guns are useless until you need them. Any man who has a family should have at least a rifle or a handgun. Or it means he s not really a man or doesnt really love his family. Firearms are just tools. What you have in your head decides what you ll do with them. And what you have in your head depends of the society, family, you ve been living in.
Oh Brother, the guns equal masculinity card when it is the complete opposite. You have the gun because you are afraid and too cowardly to live without one. I always loved Jim Carreys piss taking of Charlton Heston's faux masculinity.
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but no guns.
;D
They have guns but you need a license for them.
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You sure know a lot about trannies... :-X
Not really, not into that at all...it just happens that I have money to travel.
Btw: Guess you have never saw any of my posts. ;)
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Oh Brother, the guns equal masculinity card when it is the complete opposite. You have the gun because you are afraid and too cowardly to live without one.
Ironically, jim carey is too cowardly to live life without his armed bodyguard either.
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I think he thinks I'm an Aborigine, or something. He hates blacks is all, which I'm obviously not, and he's pissed that I called him out for stalking Wiggs and anabolichalo. I stopped with the guy, but he started up with me again. Sorry, Wes.
No need to be sorry bro,to hell with him if he wants to be a jerk! ;D
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Oh Brother, the guns equal masculinity card when it is the complete opposite. You have the gun because you are afraid and too cowardly to live without one. I always loved Jim Carreys piss taking of Charlton Heston's faux masculinity.
Huh..I own rifles yet dont carry any 300 days a year while walking in a big city... you re just making no sense.
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Huh..I own rifles yet dont carry any 300 days a year while walking in a big city... you re just making no sense.
Well, you're not a real man then. Real men carry guns all year around, even while walking in the big city.
See how ridiculous it is to equate guns with masculinity. ANybody who uses 'A Real man does this..." as his argument can only appeal to those who don't feel like real men and need to find a way too feel like a real man.
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Well, you're not a real man then. Real men carry guns all year around, even while walking in the big city.
See how ridiculous it is to equate guns with masculinity.
You foreigners do, we don't. It's just a tool. Stop thinking that what you see in the media and movies is reality. Make your own judgment.
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Oh Brother, the guns equal masculinity card when it is the complete opposite. You have the gun because you are afraid and too cowardly to live without one.
Sadly this is the total truth. Typical American man these days has low testosterone levels and lives in fear. He needs his metal friend to give him confidence.
Look at Stallone. After 9 11 he actually stopped flying for months in case a terrorist got him. :D
Typical dumb weak American lacking in courage. :D
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Any man who has a family should have at least a rifle or a handgun. Or it means he s not really a man or doesnt really love his family.
You foreigners do, we don't. It's just a tool. Stop thinking that what you see in the media and movies is reality. Make your own judgment.
Uberman certainly does. Maybe you should read your own thread.
And the crazy part is you believe your belief is made from independant thought, you live in a Country that tears apart anybody who espouses the unpopular idea of gun control. Those who are pro gun are simply responding to what they see in the media, the media has told them what to think, and they think it. You are like a Muslim raised in the middle east claiming you chose to believe in Islam, and that you came to the belief on your own.
Farmers owning guns for predator control to protect livestock - NORMAL
Hunters owning guns to obtain a feed - NORMAL
Police and Military owning guns to protect civilians and country - NORMAL
The majority of the population owning guns for self protection because they are terrified of their own shadows - CRAZY !
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Sadly this is the total truth. Typical American man these days has low testosterone levels and lives in fear. He needs his metal friend to give him confidence.
Look at Stallone. After 9 11 he actually stopped flying for months in case a terrorist got him. :D
Typical dumb weak American lacking in courage. :D
first I have heard of this. are you sure, even if so, I like him, I don't want a terrorist to kill him neither.
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They had a gun amnesty here in Oz when everyone except the criminals handed in their weapons. So you stats make sense.
It is almost impossible to own a hand gun. No pump action shotguns, just double barrel, no auto rifles. Even slug guns are illegal without a permit.
Australia's gun laws suck, we are not allowed to protect our family or property.
1 of my friends handed in brand new AK47 (Saigon trophy) & was paid $ 700 by cops for it >:(
I wanted to strangle him.
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Australia, much respect. We got Vince, booty, and Tony, all very intelligent Aussies. And then we got Mr. Teutonic Knight. Can you guys please explain this illegible oddity?
Thanks 4 "love" compliment ;D Mr.Mabo
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No need to be sorry bro,to hell with him if he wants to be a jerk! ;D
Visit NT of Oz & :o :o :o
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The majority of the population owning guns for self protection because they are terrified of their own shadows - CRAZY !
You're misinformed. Go read the 2nd Amendement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
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You're misinformed. Go read the 2nd Amendement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
Who cares what the Constitution says? Didn't the constitution endorse slavery until it was amended. Just as a slave owner could have pointed to the so called validity of such an act by citing the Constitution, doesn't make slave ownership ethical. Laws that cannot be changed based on circumstance are laws that can only enslave, not set people free. The argument is, does liberal and lax gun ownership laws make everyone freer or more enslaved. Obviously for the children of mass school shootings they weren't liberated by such lax laws, so while such lax gun laws may make you FEEL safer, they may even make some people safer, but they don't make everyone safer. Such laws obviously endanger many innocent people, so I would argue they only create a bigger divide between who is safe and who isn't, also making it more unpredictable to determine who is safer and who isn't. You would think in a society with such liberal gun laws as America has, an expert marksman like Chris Kyle who was an expert in the use of guns, had a personal arsenal of them would never have to fear being shot by another man with a gun. If all you need to be safe is some guns and training in their use, then what about Chris Kyle, if such a man isn't safe from being murdered by a gun in America, who is?
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Who cares what the Constitution says? Didn't the constitution endorse slavery until it was amended.
mmm... we Americans do, it's our right. You should stick to Aussie affairs chief, such as Kangaroo regulations, Koala adoption and Outback SteakHouse.
The word slavery was never used in the original Constitution for a reason. The founding fathers did not want the Constitution to enforce nor endorse slavery. Most were against it. The 13th Amendment abolished slavery.
It's our right to defend ourselves and our family. End of the story.
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mmm... we Americans do, it's our right. You should stick to Aussie affairs chief, such as Kangaroo regulations, Koala adoption and Outback SteakHouse.
The word slavery was never used in the original Constitution for a reason. The founding fathers did not want the Constitution to enforce nor endorse slavery. Most were against it. The 13th Amendment abolished slavery.
It's our right to defend ourselves and our family. End of the story.
This guy isn't american?
Ahaha add another internet peasant to the list.
I can't get over how warm and fuzzy I feel when I foreigners engage in american politics.
If you're an american reading this, pat yourself on the back, we did it!
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This guy isn't american?
Ahaha add another internet peasant to the list.
I can't get over how warm and fuzzy I feel when I foreigners engage in american politics.
If you're an american reading this, pat yourself on the back, we did it!
LOL I hear you... beyond all the hate, still the greatest experiment in democracy in human history. They're engaged because they envy us. It's just funny how their local media glasses distorts everything they later regurgitate. Although not as bad as it used to be with the internets.
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Far from a fair comparison Maddy!
There are over 2,000 crimes recorded per 100,000 population in the U.K., compared to 466 violent crimes per 100,000" in the United States.
No they're aren't. That meme deliberately misinterprets crime data to make the UK look bad.
The Uk police force considers violent crime to be anything that involves and attack on a person i.e. assault without injury. Whereas the USA statistics only counts violent crime as rape, armed robbery, assault with injury, and murder. It is an apples to oranges comparison and anyone without a biased agenda would consider it invalid.
Poverty and social inequity fuel violent crime, not gun control. If you want to see a nation with low crime look at the united arab emirates.
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We're all a product of our environment, if you grow up with guns, you are going to want to continue owning guns. If you grow up without firearms, fair to say if the government decides you can't own one (or more accurately, implements quite strict ownership and licensing requirements) you are probably going to be not that phased by it.
I'm an Aussie, however most of my family are American and it's funny how this is probably one of the few topics that seems to always divide opinions.
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No they're aren't. That meme deliberately misinterprets crime data to make the UK look bad.
The Uk police force considers violent crime to be anything that involves and attack on a person i.e. assault without injury. Whereas the USA statistics only counts violent crime as rape, armed robbery, assault with injury, and murder. It is an apples to oranges comparison and anyone without a biased agenda would consider it invalid.
Poverty and social inequity fuel violent crime, not gun control. If you want to see a nation with low crime look at the united arab emirates.
Is it true that most cops in the UK don't carry firearms? When on general duties and the like...
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I come from a country where decades of socialists have conditioned the population to be afraid of guns. Shame really, but at least they have knives to stab each other with.
I'm buying a sig p226 mk 25 in a couple of weeks , god bless the USA.
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Funny thing is: Murica's gov is spying on everybody "including Muricans" basicaly Murica is minding everybody business. But when someone say something about Murica, murican's reply back saying "mind your business". lol
Example: if by telling someone to "mind their business" was a slap in the face.
Here is a much bigger slap.
The whole world is telling Murica, mind your business. ;D
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stfu old cracked leathery delusional caunt. Only happened in your aging head.
Go put another layer of foundation on that orange skin, cracked thing you call a face.
Haha :D
Alex, you're alright by me my friend.
I'm happy another guy notice what an ageing vile turd this attention-seeking whore is.
Glad you're not one of the 'manly' pussies that fall all over themselves the moment this horrid creature feels like its hourly dose of attention.
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mmm... we Americans do, it's our right. You should stick to Aussie affairs chief, such as Kangaroo regulations, Koala adoption and Outback SteakHouse.
The word slavery was never used in the original Constitution for a reason. The founding fathers did not want the Constitution to enforce nor endorse slavery. Most were against it. The 13th Amendment abolished slavery.
It's our right to defend ourselves and our family. End of the story.
Ironically, the very thing you need to defend yourself from is the very thing you promote. By promoting virtually unrestricted gun ownership you only endanger your family more.
It's a striking paradox that those who want strict gun control argue the very same thing, the right to defend themselves and their family, they just believe that there their family is safer in a society that has strict gun regulations. Here in Australia, we haven't had a mass shooting in 17 years, school children in America are without a doubt far more vulnerable because of their lax gun laws. If American parents who promote such lax gun laws have done so to protect themselves and their families, the long list of murdered school children by crazed gunmen is a testament to how much they have utterly failed themselves and their children and their families.
If the average Americans goal in promoting lax gun laws is to protect the most vulnerable members of their community, the children, then they have failed miserably. I don't really care what Americans do, their whole culture is batshit crazy, but don't pretend your gun culture makes you and your family safer, just admit you have personal insecurities that can't be appeased any other way.
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I come from a country where decades of socialists have conditioned the population to be afraid of guns. Shame really, but at least they have knives to stab each other with.
I'm buying a sig p226 mk 25 in a couple of weeks , god bless the USA.
But isn't gun ownership for self defense purposes based on ones fear of being killed by an armed assailant. Don't people who own guns do so because they are afraid of other people who own guns. And if anything can be used as a murderous weapon, why own a gun? Just use a knife or a shovel or something. Why specifically a gun?
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Crime rates were on their way down, the gun ban had absolutely no affect. That's irrelevant though, you don't take away people's rights because there are criminals.
(http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/95553f4ed9b60a374a2568030012e707/4524a092e30e4486ca2569de00256331/Body/13.4240!OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=gif)
Well, gun control and gun ban are basically really simple matters. First of all you have to realize, that no matter what you do, at the best you will have control only for the guns owned by law abiding citizens. Sadly enough, those guns are no threat anybody but criminals, so what is the point? Only what you do, is increase the number of defenseless victims. Criminals will always have their guns, and every gun ban country has seen massive increase of the illegal trafficking of arms. Why not, because gun ban make it to be big business, while every fucking imbecile wants illegal gun.
Same time in Estonia, which was after the CCCP era one of the most criminal countries of the world, they start to give permits for self defense guns to law abiding citizens. What happen? In first decade, they more than half the statistic about the homicides, and some crime types drop over 70%. Now, in gun related homicides Estonia is far behind Finland, which do not give any gun permits for self defense. Funny enough in same time we have seen massive increase of Estonian criminals working in Finland, so what lower the statistic in Estonia, increase them in Finland where nobody has any means of self defense.
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You Americans are obsessed with Guns. This thread is just deja-vu. The stats provided at the start of this thread are just made up, hence the reason they have no link to the source reference. Back in 2000 the Australian Attorney General Daryl Williams accused the NRA of falsifying Australian government statistics and urged the NRA to "remove any reference to Australia" from its website.
The majority of gun crime today is between rival bikie gangs and organised criminals. The majority of Australia are for gun control as they recognise the need to live in a society without regular mass shooting or school shootings as more important than owning a gun for the unlikely need for self defense in the home. Since the legislation there has been NO MASS Shootings.
Having said that, gun control is unlikely to work in USA, there are already too many guns in circulation and the average American is borderline Crazy.
its so qute how you aussies call bikers for bikies
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You are ranked 1st for MURDERS (not self defense/accident)with guns in the usa, 600 times higher than in the UK. You are 25%more likely to get punched in the nose in the UK than the US but I'd take that over getting shot. The UK has a much much bigger drug problem.
When you look at victim crimes you need to then say are guns protecting me and my property? You are just as likely to get raped in the US as the UK both pretty low, however car theft is 3 times higher in the US than the uk. Though you have much more crime we have 4% more violent crime but these don't result in death. We tend to have a punch up and that's as far as it goes. Despite having the highest gun mortality in the world you still have the highest number of incarcerated citizens by far. If guns worked they'd all be dead.
I love the US and love vacations there.it's the only county other than the UK I can visit and feel like I will get as good if not better than home hospital care if I were to hurt myself. The people are on the whole very friendly, they don't know how to party as hard as us ( due to the lack of drugs probably lol).
You absolutely have a right to defend your family and property but guns are not working and never have. However as you lucky bastards are allowed to kill people who try to harm you or your property why don't you concentrate on having cars security that can kill a car their/burglar. Have armed security at school or an armed headmaster. Guns have a place but not in the hands of everyone.
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its so qute how you aussies call bikers for bikies
You like the big men in leather, huh?
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You like the big men in leather, huh?
only if they call themself bikers..bikies sounds so ghey
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(http://www.abc.net.au/news/linkableblob/4905120/data/chart3a-deaths-resulting-from-firearms-data.jpg)
abs = Australian Bureau of Statistics.
Does that include suicides?
Take out the suicides statistics and I bet there will be a smaller decrease.
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LOL what a dumb fuck country you criminals have LOL...
Thanks for setting a precedent :D
Dumb fucking Ozzies. Any real man knows you NEVER give up your guns.
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Australia is still very safe, very rarely is there shootings, if there is its repeated on the news for 1 month.
then it's usually immigrant scumbags too
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LOL what a dumb fuck country you criminals have LOL...
Thanks for setting a precedent :D
Any comment E-Kul? You were all for this right?
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Any comment E-Kul? You were all for this right?
I was 23 at the time, and nobody I knew owned a gun nor wanted to. Even if guns were available I still wouldn't choose to own one, nor would anybody I know. Guns just don't have the obsessive appeal for Australians that they do for Americans. Australians prefer to reduce or eliminate the potential to be a victim in a mass shooting over the right to own a gun that only provides at best a false sense of security. Unlimited freedom doesn't appeal to me if it increases my chances to be seriously injured or killed, which I believe would be the case if our Country had the same lax gun laws America does coupled with a virulent gun culture.
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I was 23 at the time, and nobody I knew owned a gun nor wanted to. Even if guns were available I still wouldn't choose to own one, nor would anybody I know. Guns just don't have the obsessive appeal for Australians that they do for Americans. Australians prefer to reduce or eliminate the potential to be a victim in a mass shooting over the right to own a gun that only provides at best a false sense of security. Unlimited freedom doesn't appeal to me if it increases my chances to be seriously injured or killed, which I believe would be the case if our Country had the same lax gun laws America does coupled with a virulent gun culture.
You sound like a convict coward. Were your ancestors deported for some cowardly act?
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You sound like a convict coward. Were your ancestors deported for some cowardly act?
lol @ people too afraid to live without owning a gun calling those that aren't afraid to do so, cowards. Oh the irony. If the world is as scarier place as you Americans make out, wouldn't the courageous ones be those who choose to not arm themselves.
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If the world is as scarier place as you Americans make out, wouldn't the courageous ones be those who choose to not arm themselves.
No, here we call them STUPID. Are you Ozzies stupid as a rule?
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I was 23 at the time, and nobody I knew owned a gun nor wanted to. Even if guns were available I still wouldn't choose to own one, nor would anybody I know. Guns just don't have the obsessive appeal for Australians that they do for Americans. Australians prefer to reduce or eliminate the potential to be a victim in a mass shooting over the right to own a gun that only provides at best a false sense of security. Unlimited freedom doesn't appeal to me if it increases my chances to be seriously injured or killed, which I believe would be the case if our Country had the same lax gun laws America does coupled with a virulent gun culture.
Of course, killing people one at a time is way better. 8/
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None of this is an issue in Aus. It simply never occurs to me to need or want a gun. There's no threat to be prepared for. I understand that may be a foreign concept but it's true.
If I lived in the US I'd have some serious munitions.
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Of course, killing people one at a time is way better. 8/
Of course it is not, but that threat was reduced also with strict gun control. The majority of those killing each with guns is between organised criminals and Bikers.
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Active safety measures in autovehicules :abs, esp, brake assist didnt reduced the number of car accidents because of the increased confidence of drivers who beneficiate of this sistems ("i have abs i an go a little faster on icy road, ha"). So the number of victims saved by using a gun in self defense will be compensated by the madmans who get in possesions of daddy rifle - the conclusion is that guns are useful if they re in possesion of a responsable citizen, which, in 2013, doesnt mean anything
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Of course it is not, but that threat was reduced also with strict gun control. The majority of those killing each with guns is between organised criminals and Bikers.
"Bikers" crime in Australia is less than 1%, but they get 1000% media publicity for nothing !.
Fact is domestic violence is the big one.
Nobody commits more crime than Australian Aboriginals but only 1% is reported, how many children is rape in Abo settlements,
how much money is given/spend on them, (remember "Intervention")
1 Abo smashes another (they call it traditional law) & get fix by white man.
Every 3rd young Abo is behind bars, FACT.
Australia is gone too much soft cock & is easy prey 4 China & India !.
WHITE man is simply screwed in ex penal colony of Botany Bay.
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But isn't gun ownership for self defense purposes based on ones fear of being killed by an armed assailant. Don't people who own guns do so because they are afraid of other people who own guns. And if anything can be used as a murderous weapon, why own a gun? Just use a knife or a shovel or something. Why specifically a gun?
Because I own an expensive home in a nice area that borders a formerly working class town that is now filled with Trayvons thanks to decades of progressive democrats building low income housing (no income to be more accurate)
So I have a soon to be schutzhund trained German rotweiller to discourage any of obamas sons who might decide to invade my home, and the German sidearm is necessary if any of them are cracked out enough to think about breaking into a house with a 100 lb protection dog
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None of this is an issue in Aus. It simply never occurs to me to need or want a gun. There's no threat to be prepared for. I understand that may be a foreign concept but it's true.
If I lived in the US I'd have some serious munitions.
X2
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This guy isn't american?
Ahaha add another internet peasant to the list.
I can't get over how warm and fuzzy I feel when I foreigners engage in american politics.
If you're an american reading this, pat yourself on the back, we did it!
The Ekul fag obviously is a pole smoker. He advocates killing of Muslims and Arabs but when some crazed fuuuck in America goes on a rampage he starts acting high and mighty about saving and protecting lives. You can't have it both ways fuckstick.
BTW I own a decent amount of guns that I use mostly for target shooting and some hunting a couple times a year. I'm a responsible gun owner and mind my own business. Why should I be punished because an insignificant amount of assholesz fuck it up for everyone else?
By efags logic all cars should be 4 cylinders and have governors installed to limit speed at 70mph. Because technically there is no reason for going any faster. Anything more is a danger to everyone.
It's called personal freedom.
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The Ekul fag obviously is a pole smoker. He advocates killing of Muslims and Arabs but when some crazed fuuuck in America goes on a rampage he starts acting high and mighty about saving and protecting lives. You can't have it both ways fuckstick.
BTW I own a decent amount of guns that I use mostly for target shooting and some hunting a couple times a year. I'm a responsible gun owner and mind my own business. Why should I be punished because an insignificant amount of assholesz fuck it up for everyone else?
By efags logic all cars should be 4 cylinders and have governors installed to limit speed at 70mph. Because technically there is no reason for going any faster. Anything more is a danger to everyone.
It's called personal freedom.
Awesome post Captain.
Spoken like a freedom fighter. The car analogy hits the nail on the head.
They don't get it and never will. Not surprising considering the historical facts.
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The Ekul fag obviously is a pole smoker. He advocates killing of Muslims and Arabs but when some crazed fuuuck in America goes on a rampage he starts acting high and mighty about saving and protecting lives. You can't have it both ways fuckstick.
BTW I own a decent amount of guns that I use mostly for target shooting and some hunting a couple times a year. I'm a responsible gun owner and mind my own business. Why should I be punished because an insignificant amount of assholesz fuck it up for everyone else?
By efags logic all cars should be 4 cylinders and have governors installed to limit speed at 70mph. Because technically there is no reason for going any faster. Anything more is a danger to everyone.
It's called personal freedom.
There is a limit to personal freedom. This is why we all agree to drive on the same side of the road, govern our speed and not use intoxicants that inhibit our ability to drive safely. Essentially all laws are punitive because of the few who can't govern themselves. If everybody was responsible and decent we wouldn't need laws. That's the point, the few always fuck it up for the many. Anyone could argue that they are responsible enough to drive over the speed limit and occasionally drink and drive, doesn't change the fact that if enough people participate in such behaviour the risk to everybody else goes up. What gets me, is why people have A NEED for guns, why do they feel punished if they aren't allowed to own one. I am not allowed to own a tiger, an apache attack helicopter or chemical weapons, yet oddly enough, I don't feel I am being punished because of that.
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You can own any kind of Animal you want in several states here, although idiot politicians are slowly outlawing it based on a freak occurrence.
Our right to bear arms really has nothing to do with self defense or hunting. You sound foolish when you keep brining that up.
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There is a limit to personal freedom. This is why we all agree to drive on the same side of the road, govern our speed and not use intoxicants that inhibit our ability to drive safely. Essentially all laws are punitive because of the few who can't govern themselves. If everybody was responsible and decent we wouldn't need laws. That's the point, the few always fuck it up for the many. Anyone could argue that they are responsible enough to drive over the speed limit and occasionally drink and drive, doesn't change the fact that if enough people participate in such behaviour the risk to everybody else goes up. What gets me, is why people have A NEED for guns, why do they feel punished if they aren't allowed to own one. I am not allowed to own a tiger, an apache attack helicopter or chemical weapons, yet oddly enough, I don't feel I am being punished because of that.
Maybe you are but too coward to stand up for your rights. 8)
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My father is a gun collector. He was very upset when he had to hand over half of them to the government.
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My father is a gun collector. He was very upset when he had to hand over half of them to the government.
Well I'm sure it prevented a couple of shooting rampages he was about the commit. ::)
Big brother of Peace.
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Well I'm sure it prevented a couple of shooting rampages he was about the commit. ::)
Big brother of Peace.
Yes I know what you mean. The gun owners are not the criminals. They do the right thing.
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Maybe you are but too coward to stand up for your rights. 8)
You probably have trouble envisaging what Australia is like, the majority don't care to have the right to own a gun for self defense. In the mainstream it NEVER comes up as an issue, people don't talk about it, they simply don't care about guns. Australia is the opposite to America, only a small minority here are what you would call gun Nutters who believe they have an undeniable right to bear arms. The average Australian cares more about the Universal Human right to safety and security. Increasing ones odd of being seriously injured or killed all so you can throw a gun in the safe at home holds little appeal to Australians, most of whom value their lives. We actually look to America as an example of what not to do if you want to protect the decent citizens of your Country.
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When I lived in sydney my girl friend was working in a pub when it got robbed. Gun in her face.
Cops turned up while it was in progress but stayed hidden outside and let the robbers leave with the cash.
Nobody was hurt and the CCTV was used to figure out who did it and they were arrested shortly after.
Imagine this situation in the USA....
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When I lived in sydney my girl friend was working in a pub when it got robbed. Gun in her face.
Cops turned up while it was in progress but stayed hidden outside and let the robbers leave with the cash.
Nobody was hurt and the CCTV was used to figure out who did it and they were arrested shortly after.
Imagine this situation in the USA....
This was my argument, people waving guns around generally want something, in most cases money or something of value. Give them what they want and you get to live another day. No need to be a hero and force a shootout at the O.K. Corral.
A psychotic Shooter going on a mass killing spree, can't be compromised with as they just want to take as much revenge on society as they can. These type of mass killing sprees are preventable with strict gun control I believe. At least it has worked here in Australia. Farmers and Hunters can still get a gun license, sports shooters can too, although there are some strict requirements, but those who are generally responsible can get them.
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This was my argument, people waving guns around generally want something, in most cases money or something of value. Give them what they want and you get to live another day. No need to be a hero and force a shootout at the O.K. Corral.
A psychotic Shooter going on a mass killing spree, can't be compromised with as they just want to take as much revenge on society as they can. These type of mass killing sprees are preventable with strict gun control I believe. At least it has worked here in Australia. Farmers and Hunters can still get a gun license, sports shooters can too, although there are some strict requirements, but those who are generally responsible can get them.
How do you explain this?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=512611.0;attach=547879;image)
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When I lived in sydney my girl friend was working in a pub when it got robbed. Gun in her face.
Cops turned up while it was in progress but stayed hidden outside and let the robbers leave with the cash.
Nobody was hurt and the CCTV was used to figure out who did it and they were arrested shortly after.
Imagine this situation in the USA....
I assume this was on Oxford Street.
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How do you explain this?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=512611.0;attach=547879;image)
What, your false statistics?
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What, your false statistics?
You're delusional. Educate yourself.
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You are 27 times more likely to be murdered by a gun in the USA than Australia.
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You're delusional. Educate yourself.
lol @ posting videos from nearly 20 years ago. Like I said, Gun Nutters are in the minority, they aren't representative of the general public. You notice the story was Australian video footage with American voiceover. The Americans have deliberately distorted Australian Crime statistics for years, even to the point where are Governor General asked the NRA to remove their false statistics from their webpage. If you can't see that you are being sold self serving propaganda by the pro gun crowd you are delusional.
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Don't know about other states but here in qld people feel safer having around one of these babies
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lol @ posting videos from nearly 20 years ago. Like I said, Gun Nutters are in the minority, they aren't representative of the general public. You notice the story was Australian video footage with American voiceover. The Americans have deliberately distorted Australian Crime statistics for years, even to the point where are Governor General asked the NRA to remove their false statistics from their webpage. If you can't see that you are being sold self serving propaganda by the pro gun crowd you are delusional.
Your own people are contradicting you:
From: Ed Chenel, a police officer in Australia.
Hi Yanks,
I thought you all would like to see the real figures from Down Under.
It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by a new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by our own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars.
The first year results are now in: Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent, Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent; Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent!). In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. (Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not and criminals still possess their guns!)
While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since the criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.
There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the elderly. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in "successfully ridding Australian society of guns."
You won't see this data on the American evening news or hear your governor or members of the state Assembly disseminating this information.
The Australian experience proves it. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding citizens.
Take note Americans, before it's too late!
http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp#F4ZVARUgyDefsxy4.99
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Your own people are contradicting you:
From: Ed Chenel, a police officer in Australia.
Hi Yanks,
I thought you all would like to see the real figures from Down Under.
It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by a new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by our own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars.
The first year results are now in: Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent, Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent; Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent!). In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. (Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not and criminals still possess their guns!)
While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since the criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.
There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the elderly. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in "successfully ridding Australian society of guns."
You won't see this data on the American evening news or hear your governor or members of the state Assembly disseminating this information.
The Australian experience proves it. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding citizens.
Take note Americans, before it's too late!
http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp#F4ZVARUgyDefsxy4.99
Once again, you are posting information from over a decade ago, and by someone who doesn't represent the majority. This is just propaganda. It is well recognised that tightening up guns laws is a long term proposition. It takes time for results to become visible. All later studies unequivocally show that the majority of gun related crime went on a serious decline after the strict gun regulations went into place. Perhaps you should look at peer reviewed studies such as the one done by Monash University that clearly concluded that dramatic reductions in overall firearm related deaths and particularly suicides by firearms were achieved in the context of the implementation of strong regulatory reform.
http://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/10/5/280.full (http://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/10/5/280.full)
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Once again, you are posting information from over a decade ago, and by someone who doesn't represent the majority. This is just propaganda. It is well recognised that tightening up guns laws is a long term proposition. It takes time for results to become visible. All later studies unequivocally show that the majority of gun related crime went on a serious decline after the strict gun regulations went into place. Perhaps you should look at peer reviewed studies such as the one done by Monash University that clearly concluded that dramatic reductions in overall firearm related deaths and particularly suicides by firearms were achieved in the context of the implementation of strong regulatory reform.
http://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/10/5/280.full (http://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/10/5/280.full)
Stats are timeless chief. They don't lie or take sides.
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Stats are timeless chief. They don't lie or take sides.
Exactly, that's why I said look at the recent study, you actually haven't presented any stats, just made up figures unrelated to strict gun regulations. In 1996, the new gun legislation was introduced, in that year there were 354 victims of homocide, but only 260 victims in 2010, a decrease of 27 percent
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Here in Australia our gun control has so far prevented a mass shooting since legislation was introduced. Australia had 13 gun massacres in the 18 years before the 1996 gun reforms, but has not suffered any mass shootings since.
So I agree, Stats are timeless, they don't lie. What are the stats on how many mass shootings in America since 1996?
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Sorry chief. But not having guns doesn't make your country any safer. It's actually worse than the US :-X
At least here citizens have the right to defend themselves. :-\
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Sorry chief. But not having guns doesn't make your country any safer. It's actually worse than the US :-X
At least here citizens have the right to defend themselves. :-\
Just look at the Incarceration rate, tells the whole story, there's crime and then there's crime that leads to jail time. And once again you just throw out ridiculous cherry picked stats more than likely generated by a pro gun group. Nobody cares about general crime, a broken nose from a fist fight is no big deal, you get to live another day. The issue is what is the potential to be seriously injured or killed, and in Australia that is far less likely than America. America has the worst homicide rate in the Western World. To get a better idea of the situation, Australia's annual homicide rate is the equivalent of Americas weekly homicide rate.
Crimes like assaults have nothing to do with guns, Weapons (including knives) are only used in 13% of assaults and 2% of sexual assaults in Australia. Firearms are rarely the weapon used, and only 0.3% of assaults used firearms. Firearm use is almost completely irrelevant to assault and sexual assault in Australia, and cannot be driving changes in these crimes. Suggesting otherwise is deceptive.
If there are zero guns in any population, people are still going to assault each other. People owning guns doesn't deter people from fighting at a nightclub, or in their homes or in the streets. All guns do is escalate a situation from a fist fight/ robbery/mugging etc.. to a potential manslaughter/homicide situation. Guns make it easy for anyone to easily kill anybody else. Killing someone with a knife, an axe, a screw driver etc is far more difficult, for one you need to get close to the person and you more than likely need a physical advantage, you also need the constitution to kill someone in such a violent and bloody manner, something most guns owners don't possess.
You are seriously deluded if you think you are safer in America than in Australia.
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Just look at the Incarceration rate, tells the whole story, there's crime and then there's crime that leads to jail time. And once again you just throw out ridiculous stats more than likely generate by a pro gun group. Nobody cares about general crime, a broken nose from a fist fight is no big deal you get to live another day, the issue is what is the potential to be seriously injured or killed, and in Australia that is far less likely than America. America has the worst homicide rate in the Western World.
Crimes like assaults have nothing to do with guns, if their are zero guns in any population, people are still going to assault each other. People owning guns doesn't deter people from fighting at a nightclub, or in their homes or in the streets. All guns do is escalate a situation from a fist fight/ robbery/mugging etc.. to a potential manslaughter/homicide situation. Guns make it easy for anyone to easily kill anybody else. Killing someone with a knife, an axe, a screw driver etc is far more difficult, for one you need to get close to the person and you more than likely need a physical advantage, you also need the constitution to kill someone in such a violent and bloody manner, something most guns owners don't possess.
You are seriously deluded if you think you are safer in America than in Australia. You only need to look at the security at schools to determine that. Australian Schools have zero security, no metal detectors, no pat down searches and all manner of prison like security measures. To get a better idea of the situation, Australia's annual homicide rate is the equivalent of Americas weekly homicide rate.
You've seen way to many movies. The schools here don't have security, maybe in urban areas? I've never been a victim of crime in my life besides having something stolen I foolishly left out of my garage. I don't know of one shooting in my hometown.
Our massivly deverse urban ghettos in a few large cities which are really a by product of our country's unique history are the cause of our skewed homicide rate. That's not something you encounter in 95% of the country, it's a complete non issue.
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You've seen way to many movies. The schools here don't have security, maybe in urban areas? I've never been a victim of crime in my life besides having something stolen I foolishly left out of my garage. I don't know of one shooting in my hometown.
Our massivly deverse urban ghettos in a few large cities which are really a by product of our country's unique history are the cause of our skewed homicide rate. That's not something you encounter in 95% of the country, it's a complete non issue.
So if you have never been a victim of crime, don't know anybody who has and your hometown is safe, why do you need a gun for protection? Do you anticipate a dramatic crime increase? Why are you so afraid?
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So if you have never been a victim of crime, don't know anybody who has and your hometown is safe, why do you need a gun for protection? Do you anticipate a dramatic crime increase? Why are you so afraid?
It's not about self defense or hunting, that's the part you don't understand. I know tons of people who don't have guns, whose parents didn't have guns, but they still understand how important the 2nd amendment is.
The right to bear arms is also part of almost every state constitution.
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It's not about self defense or hunting, that's the part you don't understand. I know tons of people who don't have guns, whose parents didn't have guns, but they still understand how important the 2nd amendment is.
The right to bear arms is also part of almost every state constitution.
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You do realise you are simply posting propaganda.
The German government that immediately preceded Hitler’s, actually had tougher gun laws than the Nazi regime. Hitler actually completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition. Do you really think if Jews were armed they would defeat the SA, SS and the Wehrmacht. The [Russian] Red Army lost 7 million men fighting the Wehrmacht, despite its tanks and planes and artillery. The Jews with pistols and shotguns would have done better?” Gun control doesn't cause genocide (genocidal regimes cause genocide).
As for Stalin, the very idea of either gun control or the freedom to bear arms would have been absurd to him. His regime used violence on a vast scale, provided arms to thugs of all descriptions, and stripped not guns but any human image from those it declared to be its enemies. And then, when it needed them, as in WWII, it took millions of men out of the Gulags, trained and armed them and sent them to fight Hitler, only to send back the few survivors into the camps if they uttered any criticism of the regime.
And Australian citizens has been disarmed for nearly twenty years, how long do we have to wait for the genocidal regime to kick in for it to be linked with disarming citizens?
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You're misinformed. Go read the 2nd Amendement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
Article I of the Constitution allows militias to "suppress Insurrections," not cause them. If you think the Constitution allows you to rebel against the government, guess what? The Constitution says you're a traitor. The Constitution defines treason as 'levying War' against the government in Article III and the states can ask the federal government for assistance 'against domestic Violence' under Article IV.
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Article I of the Constitution allows militias to "suppress Insurrections," not cause them. If you think the Constitution allows you to rebel against the government, guess what? The Constitution says you're a traitor. The Constitution defines treason as 'levying War' against the government in Article III and the states can ask the federal government for assistance 'against domestic Violence' under Article IV.
Sure chief, slice and dice it any way you want. Bottom line is this country was founded by patriots passionate about eradicating imperialist oppression and thinking outside the box. We did it with guns and will do it again. As simple as that.
In the meatime, god bless the "Queen" ::)
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Sweden is quite possibly the most far left progressive totalitarian regime in the west, but they still allow and even encourage gun ownership. I find it odd so many other, less left leaning countries brainwashed their citizens to fear legal handguns
As a side note, got the mk25 today :P
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Sweden is quite possibly the most far left progressive totalitarian regime in the west, but they still allow and even encourage gun ownership. I find it odd so many other, less left leaning countries brainwashed their citizens to fear legal handguns
As a side note, got the mk25 today :P
Hey congrats dude, great gun!
Switzerland, one of the most progressive country in the world:
Switzerland does not have a standing army, instead opting for a people's militia for its national defense. The vast majority of men between the ages of 20 and 30 are conscripted into the militia and undergo military training, including weapons training. The personal weapons of the militia are kept at home as part of the military obligations;
Gun violence in Switzerland: non existent.
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abs = Australian Bureau of Statistics.
Yet face tattoo's are on the rise
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Hey congrats dude, great gun!
Switzerland, one of the most progressive country in the world:
Switzerland does not have a standing army, instead opting for a people's militia for its national defense. The vast majority of men between the ages of 20 and 30 are conscripted into the militia and undergo military training, including weapons training. The personal weapons of the militia are kept at home as part of the military obligations;
Gun violence in Switzerland: non existent.
Ty, thankfully I got the model without the retarded Pelosi flag LCI, I love this country for allowing us to own these. even my formerly gun phobic Canadian wife is now asking about a "cute" .38. Apparently even in alameda its possible to get a ccw ... not likely but its worth a try.
I'm sure sweden and Switzerland will become more restrictive on legal gun ownership as their mass of immigrants commit more crime with illegal guns, and punish the innocent for the crimes of the guilty.. That's usually how it works :-\
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Hey congrats dude, great gun!
Switzerland, one of the most progressive country in the world:
Switzerland does not have a standing army, instead opting for a people's militia for its national defense. The vast majority of men between the ages of 20 and 30 are conscripted into the militia and undergo military training, including weapons training. The personal weapons of the militia are kept at home as part of the military obligations;
Gun violence in Switzerland: non existent.
Yeah, but you are talking about a nation of grown ups, rational and reasonable people. America is a melting pot of mental illness, with even those considered reasonably sane are borderline crazy. Switzerland= Nation of sane people, America = Country of Crazy people.
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Sweden is quite possibly the most far left progressive totalitarian regime in the west, but they still allow and even encourage gun ownership. I find it odd so many other, less left leaning countries brainwashed their citizens to fear legal handguns
As a side note, got the mk25 today :P
lol @ fear guns. We don't feel a need for them, and what sane person would deliberately increase there potential for them to be seriously injured or killed because they FEARED not having a gun.
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The Swiss mean IQ must be WAY higher than the USA.
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The Swiss mean IQ must be WAY higher than the USA.
Beasts.
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The Swiss mean IQ must be WAY higher than the USA.
I'll concede that it is (until they admit as many ignorant foreigners as we have).
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lol @ fear guns. We don't feel a need for them, and what sane person would deliberately increase there potential for them to be seriously injured or killed because they FEARED not having a gun.
Not at all, most Europeans are like sf progressives, literally terrified of an inanimate object. Just holding a gun makes them nervous. Its Pavlovian conditioning and quite intentional.
It's the same rationale Democratic socialist regimes have used with eroding national pride, people in the uk have been conditioned to equate pride in ones home country with racism, and equate guns with danger , crime, "stupid" Americans .... legal shotgun ownership is mocked by being associated with the "posh" upper class. Tony Martin should have been a national hero for shooting thieving pikeys but instead they tore him apart.
By making both of these ideas (guns and national pride) seem "bad" the powers that be have ensured there will never be a revolution against the central bankers as the population is kept smug , self loathing and powerless.
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- E-Kul, why do you hate America so much ??? like there is no shit here in Aussie, please lets be fer.
- Fact is more gun licenses were issued by Australian authorities in the last 2 years than ever before.
- More hand guns & rifles were LEGALLY imported than ever before.
- And (regarding to cops) illegal guns market is growing.
- No big deal to get 1, just like getting AS & far superior 'juice' ;)
- Try to read Aussie guns & hunting culture magazines for infos.
- US guns magazines on sale in almost all news agencies.
How about mentioning the Shooters & Fishers Political Party, yes official political party all over Australia :D
website: www.shootersandfishers.o rg.au
PS. Try to get Aussie songs: I love guns & Dust of Uruzgan ;)
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- E-Kul, why do you hate America so much ??? like there is no shit here in Aussie, please lets be fer.
- Fact is more gun licenses were issued by Australian authorities in the last 2 years than ever before.
- More hand guns & rifles were LEGALLY imported than ever before.
- And (regarding to cops) illegal guns market is growing.
- No big deal to get 1, just like getting AS & far superior 'juice' ;)
- Try to read Aussie guns & hunting culture magazines for infos.
- US guns magazines on sale in almost all news agencies.
How about mentioning the Shooters & Fishers Political Party, yes official political party all over Australia :D
website: www.shootersandfishers.o rg.au
PS. Try to get Aussie songs: I love guns & Dust of Uruzgan ;)
Ekul hates anything that could potentially ruin his life against his will. He pretty much obsesses over it.
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Ekul hates anything that could potentially ruin his life against his will. He pretty much obsesses over it.
lol, Who wants there life ruined against their will? Americans. Oh Brother !!! ::)
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Australians had guns, but the government took them away, and they KILLED anyone who resisted. Just like in communist China and Russia.
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- E-Kul, why do you hate America so much ??? like there is no shit here in Aussie, please lets be fer.
- Fact is more gun licenses were issued by Australian authorities in the last 2 years than ever before.
- More hand guns & rifles were LEGALLY imported than ever before.
- And (regarding to cops) illegal guns market is growing.
- No big deal to get 1, just like getting AS & far superior 'juice' ;)
- Try to read Aussie guns & hunting culture magazines for infos.
- US guns magazines on sale in almost all news agencies.
How about mentioning the Shooters & Fishers Political Party, yes official political party all over Australia :D
website: www.shootersandfishers.o rg.au
PS. Try to get Aussie songs: I love guns & Dust of Uruzgan ;)
You're a great man, and a great Australian Teutonic Knight!! I hope to visit your legendary Beaches sometime soon!
Maybe Booty will pick me up at the airport!!! 8)
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You're a great man, and a great Australian Teutonic Knight!! I hope to visit your legendary Beaches sometime soon!
Maybe Booty will pick me up at the airport!!! 8)
O, Jeeesus this is too much :)
I think you would loved Bondi beach (or Manly beach) now,fuck hot but young pussy/pussy/pussy is everywhere
Google/You tube, 4 North Bondi outdoor gym.
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O, Jeeesus this is too much :)
I think you would loved Bondi beach (or Manly beach) now,fuck hot but young pussy/pussy/pussy is everywhere
Google/You tube, 4 North Bondi outdoor gym.
Wow, looking at pics on google images now.
I think women with that Aussie accent sound so sexy!!!!!!!!
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Found a photo from the days when Vince Goodrum was a bodybuilder.
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1 of the best informative websites about today's Australia & without BS.
www.ozbiker.org
You should know that all Australian MC's are Wehrmacht's ( ;)) supporters (excluding Vietnam Vets MC).
(ps.I am not a member of any MC)
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1 of the best informative websites about today's Australia & without BS.
WWW.OZBIKER.ORG
You should know that all Australian MC's are Wehrmacht's ( ;)) supporters (excluding Vietnam Vets MC).
(ps.I am not a member of any MC)
I figured you were a Hell's Angel, didn't want to piss you off!! :-X :-X :-X
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Australians had guns, but the government took them away, and they KILLED anyone who resisted. Just like in communist China and Russia.
I have you are not serious. The guns were voluntarily handed over and compensated for, you didnt have to hand your guns over, but your possession of them was then illegal. Just like when they ended slavery,you didn't have to stop owning slaves, but by doing so you were now breaking the law. And nearly 20 years later after being disarmed we are still waiting for the genocidal regime to kick in and tyrannise everyone. That's what happens isn't it, Governments take citizens guns and then introduce genocidal policies and tyrannise the public? Oh Brother. ::)
ANd I have said many times, what worked in Australia has little chance in America, it's the culture that has to change. Australia never really reached a tipping point where guns became part of the mainstream culture, they were always a fringe element. America is awash with guns and has a fear based violent culture. America is doomed to suffer inevitable mass shootings, and wallow in the bloody mess they have created.
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This is how the Australian Feds treat gun owners.
Farmer accuses police of acting illegally after they refuse to hand back shotgun he fired at thief
Bill Edwards shot at thief David Taylor as he tried to flee the scene in a van
The attempted murder case against Mr Edwards was dropped but police refuse to give back his guns, six months later
Police say they are reviewing his suitability to hold a firearms certificate
Mr Edwards says he is struggling to get work because the guns are the tools of his trade
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2327556/Farmer-accuses-police-acting-illegally-refuse-hand-shotgun-fired-thief.html#ixzz2pEULi9qm
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Which side of the road do they drive on?
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This is how the Australian Feds treat gun owners.
Farmer accuses police of acting illegally after they refuse to hand back shotgun he fired at thief
Bill Edwards shot at thief David Taylor as he tried to flee the scene in a van
The attempted murder case against Mr Edwards was dropped but police refuse to give back his guns, six months later
Police say they are reviewing his suitability to hold a firearms certificate
Mr Edwards says he is struggling to get work because the guns are the tools of his trade
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2327556/Farmer-accuses-police-acting-illegally-refuse-hand-shotgun-fired-thief.html#ixzz2pEULi9qm
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That's ENGLAND you idiot
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That's ENGLAND you idiot
Lol
By the way look at guy's face, how in hell did he get a licence to carry a gun anyway
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E-kul is owning minds and tiny tits here.
Australia doesn't have the same mentality as the US. They didn't have to fight to be independent.
Of course there's criminal elements that posses illegal firearms, that's with every country. It doesn't mean you shit yourself walking down the street because you not carrying a gun.
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I heard Ozzies were good in war, so why do they bend over like bitches at home?
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- E-Kul, why do you hate America so much ??? like there is no shit here in Aussie, please lets be fer.
- Fact is more gun licenses were issued by Australian authorities in the last 2 years than ever before.
- More hand guns & rifles were LEGALLY imported than ever before.
- And (regarding to cops) illegal guns market is growing.
- No big deal to get 1, just like getting AS & far superior 'juice' ;)
- Try to read Aussie guns & hunting culture magazines for infos.
- US guns magazines on sale in almost all news agencies.
How about mentioning the Shooters & Fishers Political Party, yes official political party all over Australia :D
website: www.shootersandfishers.o rg.au
PS. Try to get Aussie songs: I love guns & Dust of Uruzgan ;)
T knight destroying E-Kul's arguments in every possible aspect.
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If someone was robbing me at gunpoint, I'd be more terrified of some armed but well-meaning bystander missing the robber and hitting me... an armed but ill-trained populace would be worse than the biggest friend wave.
That being said, I guess I wouldn't be opposed to rifle ownership and open-carry. Concealed-carry just seems like it's only for criminals.... no need for that
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I guess I wouldn't be opposed to rifle ownership and open-carry. Concealed-carry just seems like it's only for criminals.... no need for that
Amen. All States/counties in the US with Open-carry have lower crime rate. Not a coincidence.
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Amen. All States/counties in the US with Open-carry have lower crime rate. Not a coincidence.
Would you be ok with legal open-carry, but illegal concealed-carry laws?
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In Australia, if a group of thugs attack your house, you can't defend yourself with a gun. If you do have a gun, and protect yourself, you will go to jail.
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In Australia, if a group of thugs attack your house, you can't defend yourself with a gun. If you do have a gun, and protect yourself, you will go to jail.
This is true. But pretty much anytime you use a gun for self defense you will likely face a jury. Not always true, and not a very good system I admit, but sacrifices have to be made to lower the overall likelihood for any one citizen being the victim of homicide or serious injury.
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The "guy" in your "scorecard" looks like he doesn't even lift.
The reason no "tyrants" were overthrown is because leaders are kept in check by a well-armed citizenry.
You may be happy to sacrifice individual rights...and people like you are why Australia is at the mercy of thugs.
Liar Priest chilidogged Booty.
They should spank black kids harder in schools, they've tried everything else.
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The "guy" in your "scorecard" looks like he doesn't even lift.
The reason no "tyrants" were overthrown is because leaders are kept in check by a well-armed citizenry.
You may be happy to sacrifice individual rights...and people like you are why Australia is at the mercy of thugs.
Liar Priest chilidogged Booty.
They should spank black kids harder in schools, they've tried everything else.
I would have thought having your Nations children regularly murdered while at school as symbolic of being at the mercy of thugs. But hey, what do I know.
20 years after being disarmed I am still waiting for the tyranny to start. Maybe the tyranny starts by crazed gunmen shooting children at school. HHMMM, maybe the Americans are lying about citizens with guns prevent Governments becoming tyrants. Now why would they do that?
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E-Kul is a sheep, he even bleats like one when he talks. His penis is very small and his mother was a very dominating woman.
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E-Kul is a sheep, he even bleats like one when he talks. His penis is very small and his mother was a very dominating woman.
and his father was a Maori on permanent walkabout
e-kul is a sheepish queer, no doubt about it
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E-Kul is a sheep, he even bleats like one when he talks. His penis is very small and his mother was a very dominating woman.
and his father was a Maori on permanent walkabout
e-kul is a sheepish queer, no doubt about it
lol, Gun Nutters are so sensitive and insecure. No surprise they need so many guns.
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In Australia, if a group of thugs attack your house, you can't defend yourself with a gun. If you do have a gun, and protect yourself, you will go to jail.
It's no different in America, if you shoot someone in self-defense you'll still have to defend yourself legally
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E-Kul is a sheep, he even bleats like one when he talks. His penis is very small and his mother was a very dominating woman.
lmao ;D
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lmao ;D
LOL...
this thread wasn't about Americans.... it's about the consequences of gun ban in Australia. Facts don't lie.
E-Ful, explain this with logic, not emotion or conspiracy by the "right"
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Arguing with E-Kul, or any other uninformed, think with your heart not with your head, libtard is useless. One day he, or someone he cares about, will get robbed and become the biggest gun proponent ever.
A wise person once said...
If your not liberal in your 20's, you have no heart. If your not conservative by the time your 30, you have no brain.
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E-Kul doesn't care about saving people from gun violence he cares about being ' right ' he grins every time there is a mass shooting so he can say ' see I told you so ' that rush from righteous indignation is like a drug.
He decries anything that is pro gun as ' propaganda ' and then precedes to post anti-gun propaganda as a ' rebuttal ' he labels anyone who doesn't agree with him as a ' gun nutter ' and supplements his ' point of view ' with ad hominem attacks. He thinks if America bans guns that will end the violence , because his country did it ::) a childish and navie point of view considering the many intricacies of America Federal & State laws
His ' points ' aren't researched or unbiased , I used to ' argue ' with him , but after taking all of that into consideration I just laugh at him thinking he's got it all figured out half way around the world.
Poor fella takes this place WAY to seriously , he had to step away for a while. If that doesn't give you a clear indication of his state of mind I don't know what will.
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E-Kul doesn't care about saving people from gun violence he cares about being ' right ' he grins every time there is a mass shooting so he can say ' see I told you so ' that rush from righteous indignation is like a drug.
He decries anything that is pro gun as ' propaganda ' and then precedes to post anti-gun propaganda as a ' rebuttal ' he labels anyone who doesn't agree with him as a ' gun nutter ' and supplements his ' point of view ' with ad hominem attacks. He thinks if America bans guns that will end the violence , because his country did it ::) a childish and navie point of view considering the many intricacies of America Federal & State laws
His ' points ' aren't researched or unbiased , I used to ' argue ' with him , but after taking all of that into consideration I just laugh at him thinking he's got it all figured out half way around the world.
Poor fella takes this place WAY to seriously , he had to step away for a while. If that doesn't give you a clear indication of his state of mind I don't know what will.
he has a fatpanda-eqsue hero complex, like hes out to save the innocents from 'evil', and if hes not crusading against anything that has rhe potential to take an innocents life then the 'evil' is winning. Problem is that his world view is fucked up due to his accident and hes a psychotic control freak because of it.
hes no different than any other petty 3rd world dictator throughout history who used fear and horror to take peoples freedoms because hes 'saving them from themselves'.
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he has a fatpanda-eqsue hero complex, like hes out to save the innocents from 'evil', and if hes not crusading against anything that has rhe potential to take an innocents life then the 'evil' is winning. Problem is that his world view is fucked up due to his accident and hes a psychotic control freak because of it.
hes no different than any other petty 3rd world dictator throughout history who used fear and horror to take peoples freedoms because hes 'saving them from themselves'.
what accident? His mom dropped him or something?
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what accident? His mom dropped him or something?
Pitbull attack. He never recovered. Tore him up and heost everything evidently. And he lretty much just bitches ever since... makes me winder if hes one of those guys that gets knocked down and instead of getting back up, he turns into a bitter defeatist; bitches, whines, plays the victim card,and points the finger at everyone and everything else because life is cruel and unfair.
I almost wonder if he IS Fatpanda.... very similar stories IIRC, both accidents thay crippled them and caused them to lose everything and become morbidly obese.
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Pitbull attack. He never recovered. Tore him up and heost everything evidently. And he lretty much just bitches ever since... makes me winder if hes one of those guys that gets knocked down and instead of getting back up, he turns into a bitter defeatist; bitches, whines, plays the victim card,and points the finger at everyone and everything else because life is cruel and unfair.
I almost wonder if he IS Fatpanda.... very similar stories IIRC, both accidents thay crippled them and caused them to lose everything and become morbidly obese.
mmmm so now should canine be illegal? ;D
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mmmm so now should canine be illegal? ;D
no, he just wants pitbulls and all other large breeds with violent tendancies to be outlawed and the breeds made extinct.
Sounds perfectly reasonable, no?
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he has a fatpanda-eqsue hero complex, like hes out to save the innocents from 'evil', and if hes not crusading against anything that has rhe potential to take an innocents life then the 'evil' is winning. Problem is that his world view is fucked up due to his accident and hes a psychotic control freak because of it.
hes no different than any other petty 3rd world dictator throughout history who used fear and horror to take peoples freedoms because hes 'saving them from themselves'.
I honestly think he doesn't want anyone to have guns because he fears what he would do with one , it's projecting. He can't wrap his head around that fact people on average use firearms 2.5 million times a year defensively to protect themselves and their families and property
* Guns used 2.5 million times a year in self-defense. Law-abiding citizens use guns to defend themselves against criminals as many as 2.5 million times every year -- or about 6,850 times a day. [1] This means that each year, firearms are used more than 80 times more often to protect the lives of honest citizens than to take lives. [2]
* Of the 2.5 million times citizens use their guns to defend themselves every year, the overwhelming majority merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off their attackers. Less than 8% of the time, a citizen will kill or wound his/her attacker.[3]
* As many as 200,000 women use a gun every year to defend themselves against sexual abuse.[4]
* Even anti-gun Clinton researchers concede that guns are used 1.5 million times annually for self-defense. According to the Clinton Justice Department, there are as many as 1.5 million cases of self-defense every year. The National Institute of Justice published this figure in 1997 as part of "Guns in America" -- a study which was authored by noted anti-gun criminologists Philip Cook and Jens Ludwig.[5]
* Armed citizens kill more crooks than do the police. Citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals as police do every year (1,527 to 606).[6] And readers of Newsweek learned that "only 2 percent of civilian shootings involved an innocent person mistakenly identified as a criminal. The 'error rate' for the police, however, was 11 percent, more than five times as high."[7]
* Handguns are the weapon of choice for self-defense. Citizens use handguns to protect themselves over 1.9 million times a year. [8] Many of these self-defense handguns could be labeled as "Saturday Night Specials."
Brilliant logic , lets ban guns and save 10 victims and create 2.5 Million more ::)
Fifty-five million kids went to school on the day that 20 were massacred at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Connecticut. Even in the United States, therefore, the chances of a child’s dying in a school shooting are remote. As my friend Steven Pinker demonstrates in his monumental study of human violence, The Better Angels of Our Nature, our perception of danger is easily distorted by rare events. Is gun violence increasing in the United States? No. But it certainly seems to be when one recalls recent atrocities in Newtown and Aurora. In fact, the overall rate of violent crime has fallen by 22 percent in the past decade (and 18 percent in the past five years).
This is what all these people suffer from , a perception of danger that is distorted , it's like every year when the summer comes and a Great White attacks and people freak out about all the shark attacks when in fact it's usually one of two a year ( in America )
E-Kul is exactly like the fundamentalist Christians he rails about , he is every bit like them , delusional , uneducated , blindly following the anti-gun dogma and wont listen to reason and facts. He's just to blinded to see it.
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In Australia, if a group of thugs attack your house, you can't defend yourself with a gun. If you do have a gun, and protect yourself, you will go to jail.
No thanks.
I'll take Texas where u can see 2 men robbing your next door neighbor, announce to the 911 dispatcher that you are going to shoot them. Then proceed to walk over, yell out "you're dead" then blow them both in half with a shotgun and get off scot free.
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what accident? His mom dropped him or something?
Poor fella , still can't silence the lambs
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No thanks.
I'll take Texas where u can see 2 men robbing your next door neighbor, announce to the 911 dispatcher that you are going to shoot them. Then proceed to walk over, yell out "you're dead" then blow them both in half with a shotgun and get off scot free.
AMEN
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I honestly think he doesn't want anyone to have guns because he fears what he would do with one , it's projecting. He can't wrap his head around that fact people on average use firearms 2.5 million times a year defensively to protect themselves and their families and property
* Guns used 2.5 million times a year in self-defense. Law-abiding citizens use guns to defend themselves against criminals as many as 2.5 million times every year -- or about 6,850 times a day. [1] This means that each year, firearms are used more than 80 times more often to protect the lives of honest citizens than to take lives. [2]
* Of the 2.5 million times citizens use their guns to defend themselves every year, the overwhelming majority merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off their attackers. Less than 8% of the time, a citizen will kill or wound his/her attacker.[3]
* As many as 200,000 women use a gun every year to defend themselves against sexual abuse.[4]
* Even anti-gun Clinton researchers concede that guns are used 1.5 million times annually for self-defense. According to the Clinton Justice Department, there are as many as 1.5 million cases of self-defense every year. The National Institute of Justice published this figure in 1997 as part of "Guns in America" -- a study which was authored by noted anti-gun criminologists Philip Cook and Jens Ludwig.[5]
* Armed citizens kill more crooks than do the police. Citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals as police do every year (1,527 to 606).[6] And readers of Newsweek learned that "only 2 percent of civilian shootings involved an innocent person mistakenly identified as a criminal. The 'error rate' for the police, however, was 11 percent, more than five times as high."[7]
* Handguns are the weapon of choice for self-defense. Citizens use handguns to protect themselves over 1.9 million times a year. [8] Many of these self-defense handguns could be labeled as "Saturday Night Specials."
Brilliant logic , lets ban guns and save 10 victims and create 2.5 Million more ::)
Fifty-five million kids went to school on the day that 20 were massacred at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Connecticut. Even in the United States, therefore, the chances of a child’s dying in a school shooting are remote. As my friend Steven Pinker demonstrates in his monumental study of human violence, The Better Angels of Our Nature, our perception of danger is easily distorted by rare events. Is gun violence increasing in the United States? No. But it certainly seems to be when one recalls recent atrocities in Newtown and Aurora. In fact, the overall rate of violent crime has fallen by 22 percent in the past decade (and 18 percent in the past five years).
This is what all these people suffer from , a perception of danger that is distorted , it's like every year when the summer comes and a Great White attacks and people freak out about all the shark attacks when in fact it's usually one of two a year ( in America )
E-Kul is exactly like the fundamentalist Christians he rails about , he is every bit like them , delusional , uneducated , blindly following the anti-gun dogma and wont listen to reason and facts. He's just to blinded to see it.
Epic post of peace. Thanks for putting some common sense back into this thread.
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Arguing with E-Kul, or any other uninformed, think with your heart not with your head, libtard is useless. One day he, or someone he cares about, will get robbed and become the biggest gun proponent ever.
A wise person once said...
If your not liberal in your 20's, you have no heart. If your not conservative by the time your 30, you have no brain.
I've been robbed three times and another time I was home when I had three home invaders. How does that make one a gun proponent?
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I've been robbed three times and another time I was home when I had three home invaders. How does that make one a gun proponent?
Sounds like you should move to another part of Australia, Luke...
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I've been robbed three times and another time I was home when I had three home invaders. How does that make one a gun proponent?
Wow sounds like banning guns made Australia real safe ::) we should follow your blueprint
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I've been robbed three times and another time I was home when I had three home invaders. How does that make one a gun proponent?
lol of course you have. There's no deterrent.
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Wow sounds like banning guns made Australia real safe ::) we should follow your blueprint
Haha yes. Keeping guns available in America has virtually eradicated violent crime here
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Haha yes. Keeping guns available in America has virtually eradicated violent crime here
2.5 million crimes are prevented per year due to legally owned guns are the end-all-be-all solution? NO but it's better than the alternative.
Incidents in the year 2010 per 100,000 population
Homicide:
U.S. 4.8
UK (includes Northern Ireland) 1.2
Australia 1.0
Sweden 1.0
Rape:
U.S. 27.3
UK (England and Wales) 28.8
Australia 88.4
Sweden 63.5
Assault
U.S. 250.9
U.K. (England and Wales) 664.4
Australia 766
Sweden 936.6
Scotland 1449.7
Source: United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC)
Note: UNODC data and those of the Australian government do not agree. For Australian rates of Assault and Rape, I have relied on the report issued by the Australian Institute of Criminology
Congrats UK and AU you banned guns , now your rape and assault rates supersede ours :D
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2.5 million crimes are prevented per year due to legally owned guns are the end-all-be-all solution? NO but it's better than the alternative.
Incidents in the year 2010 per 100,000 population
Homicide:
U.S. 4.8
UK (includes Northern Ireland) 1.2
Australia 1.0
Sweden 1.0
Rape:
U.S. 27.3
UK (England and Wales) 28.8
Australia 88.4
Sweden 63.5
Assault
U.S. 250.9
U.K. (England and Wales) 664.4
Australia 766
Sweden 936.6
Scotland 1449.7
Source: United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC)
Note: UNODC data and those of the Australian government do not agree. For Australian rates of Assault and Rape, I have relied on the report issued by the Australian Institute of Criminology
Congrats UK and AU you banned guns , now your rape and assault rates supersede ours :D
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2.5 million crimes are prevented per year due to legally owned guns are the end-all-be-all solution? NO but it's better than the alternative.
:D
I see this little gem brought up from time to time....where did you get this stat? How did they compile the data?
Seems like a dubious number
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I honestly think he doesn't want anyone to have guns because he fears what he would do with one , it's projecting. He can't wrap his head around that fact people on average use firearms 2.5 million times a year defensively to protect themselves and their families and property
* Guns used 2.5 million times a year in self-defense. Law-abiding citizens use guns to defend themselves against criminals as many as 2.5 million times every year -- or about 6,850 times a day. [1] This means that each year, firearms are used more than 80 times more often to protect the lives of honest citizens than to take lives. [2]
* Of the 2.5 million times citizens use their guns to defend themselves every year, the overwhelming majority merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off their attackers. Less than 8% of the time, a citizen will kill or wound his/her attacker.[3]
* As many as 200,000 women use a gun every year to defend themselves against sexual abuse.[4]
* Even anti-gun Clinton researchers concede that guns are used 1.5 million times annually for self-defense. According to the Clinton Justice Department, there are as many as 1.5 million cases of self-defense every year. The National Institute of Justice published this figure in 1997 as part of "Guns in America" -- a study which was authored by noted anti-gun criminologists Philip Cook and Jens Ludwig.[5]
* Armed citizens kill more crooks than do the police. Citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals as police do every year (1,527 to 606).[6] And readers of Newsweek learned that "only 2 percent of civilian shootings involved an innocent person mistakenly identified as a criminal. The 'error rate' for the police, however, was 11 percent, more than five times as high."[7]
* Handguns are the weapon of choice for self-defense. Citizens use handguns to protect themselves over 1.9 million times a year. [8] Many of these self-defense handguns could be labeled as "Saturday Night Specials."
Brilliant logic , lets ban guns and save 10 victims and create 2.5 Million more ::)
Fifty-five million kids went to school on the day that 20 were massacred at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Connecticut. Even in the United States, therefore, the chances of a child’s dying in a school shooting are remote. As my friend Steven Pinker demonstrates in his monumental study of human violence, The Better Angels of Our Nature, our perception of danger is easily distorted by rare events. Is gun violence increasing in the United States? No. But it certainly seems to be when one recalls recent atrocities in Newtown and Aurora. In fact, the overall rate of violent crime has fallen by 22 percent in the past decade (and 18 percent in the past five years).
This is what all these people suffer from , a perception of danger that is distorted , it's like every year when the summer comes and a Great White attacks and people freak out about all the shark attacks when in fact it's usually one of two a year ( in America )
E-Kul is exactly like the fundamentalist Christians he rails about , he is every bit like them , delusional , uneducated , blindly following the anti-gun dogma and wont listen to reason and facts. He's just to blinded to see it.
Still posting reams of propaganda I see. You forgot this one . And you Nutters forget, I live in Australia, where guns are never an issue, the majority don't care about them, they are never talked about or discussed. Guns are a complete non-issue. If the government made them compulsory a large majority still wouldn't comply. What's considered normal in America is right wing extremism here. Australians simply do not give a flying fuck about being able to own a gun. In terms of political issues it is on par with how much meat can you put in a meat pie before it is considered a meat pie.
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Still posting reams of propaganda I see. You forgot this one. You Nutters forget, I live in Australia, where guns are never an issue, the majority don't care about them, they are never talked about or discussed. Guns are a complete non-issue. If the government made them compulsory a large majority still wouldn't comply. What's considered normal in America is right wing extremism here. Australians simply do not give a flying fuck about beign ableto own a gun. In terms of political issues it is on par with how much meat can you put in a meat pie before it is considered a meat pie.
Many of your compatriots disagree with you, over and over. But I'm sure you believe it. Calling anyone a "nutter" just shows how bias your argument is.
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Many of your compatriots disagree with you, over and over. But I'm sure you believe it. Calling anyone a "nutter" just shows how bias your argument is.
I have lived here 40 years dickhead. Nobody, and I mean nobody ever talks about GUNS. Even in the lead up to an ELECTION, it never gets talked about. Every now and again some Gun Nutters come out of the woodwork and they are laughed at and they retreat straight back to their foxhole. Nobody takes them seriously. The only time guns are mentioned is in relation to organised crime or whenever America has another mass shooting, and then the conversations goes around for about a week about how crazy americans are and why are they so obsessed with guns, this is followed by gratitude to how safe we are here and the effectiveness of our gun laws. That's about the only time Australians talk about guns.
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Still posting reams of propaganda I see. You forgot this one . And you Nutters forget, I live in Australia, where guns are never an issue, the majority don't care about them, they are never talked about or discussed. Guns are a complete non-issue. If the government made them compulsory a large majority still wouldn't comply. What's considered normal in America is right wing extremism here. Australians simply do not give a flying fuck about being able to own a gun. In terms of political issues it is on par with how much meat can you put in a meat pie before it is considered a meat pie.
Australians don't care about guns , they care Americans who own them ;)
Still denying facts I see? Keep preaching fundamentalist :D
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I have lived here 40 years dickhead. Nobody, and I mean nobody ever talks about GUNS. Even in the lead up to an ELECTION, it never gets talked about. Every now and again some Gun Nutters come out of the woodwork and they are laughed at and they retreat straight back to their foxhole. Nobody takes them seriously.
No need for name calling chief. It's your view and you're free to believe it. It's just very distorted and untrue. You're lying to yourself to feel more secure.
The 12yo girl from 2 blocks down called. She said she'll mug your ass as soon as you step out.
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:D
I see this little gem brought up from time to time....where did you get this stat? How did they compile the data?
Seems like a dubious number
Why does it seem dubious? https://www.gunowners.org/sk0802htm.htm
Even the Clinton gun grabbing administration admits guns are used to defend much more than abused
* Even anti-gun Clinton researchers concede that guns are used 1.5 million times annually for self-defense. According to the Clinton Justice Department, there are as many as 1.5 million cases of self-defense every year. The National Institute of Justice published this figure in 1997 as part of "Guns in America" -- a study which was authored by noted anti-gun criminologists Philip Cook and Jens Ludwig.[5]
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No need for name calling chief. It's your view and you're free to believe it. It's just very distorted and untrue. You're lying to yourself to feel more secure.
The 12yo girl from 2 blocks down called. She said she'll mug your ass as soon as you step out.
Now you are trying to tell someone what their own Country is like. The only time guns are mentioned is in relation to organised crime or whenever America has another mass shooting, and then the conversations goes around for about a week about how crazy americans are and why are they so obsessed with guns, this is followed by gratitude to how safe we are here and the effectiveness of our gun laws. That's about the only time Australians talk about guns. I worked with the public for many years and never once had a conversation about guns.
We don't need to lie to ourselves to feel more secure, we are more secure. We haven;t experienced Islamic terror attacks, we don;t have mass shootings and our annual homicide rate is equivalent to America's weekly homicide rate. No need to lie. The only one who has a need to lie is Americans, that's why the paint flalse pictures of other peoples cultures. This is the nature of addiction, those who are obsessed will point the finger everywhere else and try and accuse everyone else of being just as bad if not worse. The fact is, we don't have the problem America does. We don't have 5 year olds being murdered at school vy crazed gunmen. If we did, we sure as shit would do something about it. We live in a culture that values children over guns. Simple as THAT !
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Now you are trying to tell someone what their own Country is like. The only time guns are mentioned is in relation to organised crime or whenever America has another mass shooting, and then the conversations goes around for about a week about how crazy americans are and why are they so obsessed with guns, this is followed by gratitude to how safe we are here and the effectiveness of our gun laws. That's about the only time Australians talk about guns. I worked with the public for many years and never once had a conversation about guns.
We don't need to lie to ourselves to feel more secure, we are more secure. We haven;t experienced Islamic terror attacks, we don;t have mass shootings and our annual homicide rate is equivalent to America's weekly homicide rate. No need to lie. The only one who has a need to lie is Americans, that's why the paint flalse pictures of other peoples cultures. This is the nature of addiction, those who are obsessed will point the finger everywhere else and try and accuse everyone else of being just as bad if not worse. The fact is, we don't have the problem America does. We don't have 5 year olds being murdered at school vy crazed gunmen. If we did, we sure as shit would do something about it. We live in a culture that values children over guns. Simple as THAT !
Sounds like you need to take another break from here dude :-\
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Sounds like you need to take another break from here dude :-\
Meltdown of peace.
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Sounds like you need to take another break from here dude :-\
Does Australia still exist? I thought they cancelled it after the popularity of Crocodile Dundee faded.
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Why does it seem dubious? https://www.gunowners.org/sk0802htm.htm
ROFL. That's one of the funniest lines I have read on getbig for a while. Like suggesting smoking improves lung function and then linking it to a study funded by the Tobacco Companies. I think in logical fallacy terms it's called False attribution. Their vested interest and bias makes it highly likely they are telling porky pies.
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Does Australia still exist? I thought they cancelled it after the popularity of Crocodile Dundee faded.
They brought it back when Steve Irwin was at his peak, then a stingray cancelled it.
booty brought it back on E channel.
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They brought it back when Steve Irwin was at his peak, then a stingray cancelled it.
booty brought it back on E channel.
Countries biggest hero gets taken out by a fish. Lol.
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Countries biggest hero gets taken out by a fish. Lol.
E-kul tried to commit suicide recently, lack of gun, he stood in the water for 30mins. Nothing happened so he walked back home (got mugged 3 times at stick point), logged back on getbig. here we are.
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ROFL. That's one of the funniest lines I have read on getbig for a while. Like suggesting smoking improves lung function and then linking it to a study funded by the Tobacco Companies. I think in logical fallacy terms it's called False attribution. Their vested interest and bias makes it highly likely they are telling porky pies.
And yet the vested interest in the ANTI-GUN lobby don't? ::) hypocrite much?
* Even anti-gun Clinton researchers concede that guns are used 1.5 million times annually for self-defense. According to the Clinton Justice Department, there are as many as 1.5 million cases of self-defense every year. The National Institute of Justice published this figure in 1997 as part of "Guns in America" -- a study which was authored by noted anti-gun criminologists Philip Cook and Jens Ludwig.[5]
This is from the ANTI-GUN lobby , your ' point of view ' is considered redundant. ;)
WHAT YOU?
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E-kul tried to commit suicide recently, lack of gun, he stood in the water for 30mins. Nothing happened so he walked back home (got mugged 3 times at stick point), logged back on getbig. here we are.
Were the muggers packing a limb or a hickory switch?
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Were the muggers packing a limb or a hickory switch?
Actually it was a cricket stick, not sure if they were really robbing him or just heading to the park for a fun game. E-Kul did not take any chances, threw his wallet at them and went fetal on the ground. Afterall this is the right to do.
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Were the muggers packing a limb or a hickory switch?
they shoved a dugereedoo up his ass
he liked it
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Does Australia still exist? I thought they cancelled it after the popularity of Crocodile Dundee faded.
Yes, but Aussie man is wearing pink colors & is gone soft cock.
The 2nd biggest event (after New Years fire work) in Sydney is Gays & Lesbians Mardi Grass, simply sucks.
Anyone who say: no shootings in Sydney,Melbourne is talking crap (Google for it ;))
Also depends who commits crime,bikers or Lebanese Australian will be publicized to the max, Aboriginal crime = 99%
total silence.
Coward punch (single "king" punch) is every weekend top news, yeah land of no crime ;D
Why so many cops on the streets if there is no crime ?.Why so many CCTV's ?.
British,German,American or Russian 'Commander & Chief ' would never cry like Aussie Prime Ministers do, yes they fucking cry
like little kids.How embarrassing is this.
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I've been robbed three times and another time I was home when I had three home invaders. How does that make one a gun proponent?
Only in Australia, robber who breaks into yours place can take legal action for damages if he/she cut him self or break his leg ::)
In Texas they shoot them , don't they ;D
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aussie of peace
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I honestly don't give a fuck if Australians want to own guns or not , doesn't effect me in the least , just ironic so many foreigners are so concerned about us and our politics like children interrupting adults at the dinner table seeking attention
Guns are like abortions , don't want one? don't get one. but the moment you start to try and dictate what I can do or what's in my best interest is when you'll be put in your place.
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I honestly don't give a fuck if Australians want to own guns or not , doesn't effect me in the least , just ironic so many foreigners are so concerned about us and our politics like children interrupting adults at the dinner table seeking attention
Guns are like abortions , don't want one? don't get one. but the moment you start to try and dictate what I can do or what's in my best interest is when you'll be put in your place.
lol great analogy.
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I honestly don't give a fuck if Australians want to own guns or not , doesn't effect me in the least , just ironic so many foreigners are so concerned about us and our politics like children interrupting adults at the dinner table seeking attention
Guns are like abortions , don't want one? don't get one. but the moment you start to try and dictate what I can do or what's in my best interest is when you'll be put in your place.
this. Ekul likes to talk big and act like his opinion is all of Australias opinion, but its really just because hes a child and likes to think his opinion is more important than it is.
reality is hes just a bitter and broken man crying and bitching on the internwt because in real life hes to weak to actually make a difference,let alone pick himself up and move on after his accident
hes pretty much the anti-male.
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this. Ekul likes to talk big and act like his opinion is all of Australias opinion, but its really just because hes a child and likes to think his opinion is more important than it is.
reality is hes just a bitter and broken man crying and bitching on the internwt because in real life hes to weak to actually make a difference,let alone pick himself up and move on after his accident
hes pretty much the anti-male.
LOL he should move to San Francisco. He would fit right in.
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Wow sounds like banning guns made Australia real safe ::) we should follow your blueprint
At least no one got hurt in that home invasion, which is what really matters.
If they'd broken into my home then society would have been robbed of at least one fine upstanding young man.
I imagine in Australia if a personal protection dog "immobilizes" a home invader then that dangerous dog is put down for public safety reasons? Especially if its a scary looking breed like a mastiff or pit bull.
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At least no one got hurt in that home invasion, which is what really matters.
If they'd broken into my home then society would have been robbed of at least one fine upstanding young man.
I imagine in Australia if a personal protection dog "immobilizes" a home invader then that dangerous dog is put down for public safety reasons? Especially if its a scary looking breed like a mastiff or pit bull.
Mastiffs pups from $ 3000 near Sydney ;)
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Mastiffs pups from $ 3000 near Sydney ;)
Wait, they're not banned?
;D
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I honestly don't give a fuck if Australians want to own guns or not , doesn't effect me in the least , just ironic so many foreigners are so concerned about us and our politics like children interrupting adults at the dinner table seeking attention
Guns are like abortions , don't want one? don't get one. but the moment you start to try and dictate what I can do or what's in my best interest is when you'll be put in your place.
^^^ This shit right fuckin' here.
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Wait, they're not banned?
;D
NO, if U need info I can PM details ?.
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You Australians are a race of lady men. Always bowed to your oppressors. Of course you want the common folk disarmed and the big handsome men in uniforms to control you.
Now you are trying to tell someone what their own Country is like. The only time guns are mentioned is in relation to organised crime or whenever America has another mass shooting, and then the conversations goes around for about a week about how crazy americans are and why are they so obsessed with guns, this is followed by gratitude to how safe we are here and the effectiveness of our gun laws. That's about the only time Australians talk about guns. I worked with the public for many years and never once had a conversation about guns.
We don't need to lie to ourselves to feel more secure, we are more secure. We haven;t experienced Islamic terror attacks, we don;t have mass shootings and our annual homicide rate is equivalent to America's weekly homicide rate. No need to lie. The only one who has a need to lie is Americans, that's why the paint flalse pictures of other peoples cultures. This is the nature of addiction, those who are obsessed will point the finger everywhere else and try and accuse everyone else of being just as bad if not worse. The fact is, we don't have the problem America does. We don't have 5 year olds being murdered at school vy crazed gunmen. If we did, we sure as shit would do something about it. We live in a culture that values children over guns. Simple as THAT !
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^^^ This shit right fuckin' here.
While his manlust for men in thongs is strange and his OCD about saving every pic ever posted on getbig is fucking psychotic, his opinions and fact collection on guns is spot on. 8)
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While his manlust for men in thongs is strange and his OCD about saving every pic ever posted on getbig is fucking psychotic, his opinions and fact collection on guns is spot on. 8)
Hey chief, we should go shooting when I'm back in SoCal. I should have my SCAR by then. 8)
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Does Australia still exist? I thought they cancelled it after the popularity of Crocodile Dundee faded.
You're a funny man, Show.
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I found a picture of E-Kul on google image search
(http://rachelsrantings.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/man-in-diaper.jpg)
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While his manlust for men in thongs is strange and his OCD about saving every pic ever posted on getbig is fucking psychotic, his opinions and fact collection on guns is spot on. 8)
I do not believe in ever giving up guns... I don't trust my government that much.
You truly have to believe your government is infallible to give up your ability to revolt against it... I just don't.
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australians are grade A bullshit artists I'll tell you that
Here in los angeles zillion of them all getbiggers extrorinariees all millionaires who were equiv of navy seals whos dad are rich bastards and they rebel into acting and cave adventuring lol
women mostly skinny overrated or jaded porn whores
hope this helps
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Would hit
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I do not believe in ever giving up guns... I don't trust my government that much.
You truly have to believe your government is infallible to give up your ability to revolt against it... I just don't.
Oxymoron. Especially when a retard is running the show ;D
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Oxymoron. Especially when a retard is running the show ;D
We've had a moron in that spot for the past 13 years!
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We've had a moron in that spot for the past 13 years!
shit good point. Is it ever gonna end or are doomed as a society? I watched Idiocracy again the other night. Not far from the truth, people are definitely dumber than just 20 years ago.
The demo is changing in a bad, bad way. Nothing against latinos, but if immigration reform/amnesty kicks in we're fucked. which is why I think 2014 mid terms are one of the most critical election in history.
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shit good point. Is it ever gonna end or are doomed as a society? I watched Idiocracy again the other night. Not far from the truth, people are definitely dumber than just 20 years ago.
The demo is changing in a bad, bad way. Nothing against latinos, but if immigration reform/amnesty kicks in we're fucked. which is why I think 2014 mid terms are one of the most critical election in history.
The Mexican government isn't stupid, for the last thirty years they've been sending their poorest and lowest IQ residents over the border. The average Mexican isn't any dumber than the average American , but 90% of the illegals are the Mexican equivalent of honey boo boos family. If we sent our obese trailer dwellers and inner city yoot to Mexico it would be a fine exchange program but its a one way street.
Which is fine if those simple peasants are doing jobs Americans actually won't do like fruit picking or back breaking manual labor.. But when two people with room temp iqs have five anchor babies, and those kids grow up as entitled and lazy as American kids and won't do the hard manual work their parents did, but drop out of high school and have no skills.. Well, yes were fucked. To the tune of a hundred grand a year in tax dollars per family and rising.
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Unexpected? Detroit Police Chief Says Armed, Law-Abiding Americans ‘Translates Into Crime Reduction’
Jan. 4, 2014 10:51am Erica Ritz
In a crime-ridden city dominated by progressives, one might not expect the police chief to advocate citizens protecting themselves. But that’s exactly what happened in Detroit on Thursday.
Detroit Police Chief James Craig was speaking at a press conference at police headquarters when he revealed how his opinion of concealed carry permits radically shifted over the years.
(http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Screen-Shot-2014-01-04-at-10.38.50-AM.png)
Chief of Police James E. Craig
“Coming from California, where it takes an act of Congress to get a concealed weapon permit, I got to Maine, where they give out lots of CCWs [carrying concealed weapon permits], and I had a stack of CCW permits I was denying; that was my orientation,” Craig, who had a 28-year career with the LAPD remarked.
“I changed my orientation real quick. Maine is one of the safest places in America. Clearly, suspects knew that good Americans were armed,” he added.
Craig was appointed chief of police for the Portland, Maine Police Department on May 4, 2009, before returning to Detroit as chief of police July 1, 2013.
In 2013, Detroit saw a 7 percent drop in violent crime. Craig said the department recorded a 50% clearance rate for 2013 homicides, which was an improvement, but his goal this year is 70% clearance rate.
The Detroit News points out that this isn’t the first time Craig has spoken out in favor of concealed carry permits.
Speaking on the Paul W. Smith show several weeks ago, Craig remarked: “There’s a number of CPL (concealed pistol license) holders running around the city of Detroit. I think it acts as a deterrent. Good Americans with CPLs translates into crime reduction. I learned that real quick in the state of Maine.”
Rick Ector of the Firearm Academy of Detroit said Craig’s comments represent a “huge, radical departure” from other police chiefs.
“I’m not ready to say he’s pro-gun just yet, but it’s vastly different from what police chiefs have said in the past,” Ector said.
Click here to read the entire story at The Detroit News.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/01/04/unexpected-detroit-police-chief-says-armed-law-abiding-americans-translates-into-crime-reduction/
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The Mexican government isn't stupid, for the last thirty years they've been sending their poorest and lowest IQ residents over the border. The average Mexican isn't any dumber than the average American , but 90% of the illegals are the Mexican equivalent of honey boo boos family. If we sent our obese trailer dwellers and inner city yoot to Mexico it would be a fine exchange program but its a one way street.
Which is fine if those simple peasants are doing jobs Americans actually won't do like fruit picking or back breaking manual labor.. But when two people with room temp iqs have five anchor babies, and those kids grow up as entitled and lazy as American kids and won't do the hard manual work their parents did, but drop out of high school and have no skills.. Well, yes were fucked. To the tune of a hundred grand a year in tax dollars per family and rising.
We should start deporting our worst...
Reminds me of that "Simpsons" episode where the power plant had outsourced its work to India...and Homer managed to "export the American workers' sense of entitlement" to India.
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shit good point. Is it ever gonna end or are doomed as a society? I watched Idiocracy again the other night. Not far from the truth, people are definitely dumber than just 20 years ago.
The demo is changing in a bad, bad way. Nothing against latinos, but if immigration reform/amnesty kicks in we're fucked. which is why I think 2014 mid terms are one of the most critical election in history.
It is critical, but here's the rub... both of the parties want the latino vote. Which they believe means they need to give amnesty... The sides can agree on one thing, they want those votes.
When you add it up, the real losers are the average people who believe in laws and the rules... Those people are not getting out and voting in THEIR best interest.
The people screaming and yelling are the ghetto trash and the redneck beer swillers who are sitting on their asses and doing nothing.
I vote. You vote. Maybe a lot of people like US vote... That's not going to get it done though.
People are so apathetic that they just sit on their fucking asses.
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It is critical, but here's the rub... both of the parties want the latino vote. Which they believe means they need to give amnesty... The sides can agree on one thing, they want those votes.
When you add it up, the real losers are the average people who believe in laws and the rules... Those people are not getting out and voting in THEIR best interest.
The people screaming and yelling are the ghetto trash and the redneck beer swillers who are sitting on their asses and doing nothing.
I vote. You vote. Maybe a lot of people like US vote... That's not going to get it done though.
People are so apathetic that they just sit on their fucking asses.
seems to not matter anyway... we vote for one thing, or a person, and then they turn around and do what we didnt want anyway.... its enough to tell us that someone else is calling the shots.
and they all wind up doing the same things in the end..... whats rhe point in voting if they just say what we want to hear and then turn around and assfuck us when they get elected anyway?
We have no say anymore.
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seems to not matter anyway... we vote for one thing, or a person, and then they turn around and do what we didnt want anyway.... its enough to tell us that someone else is calling the shots.
and they all wind up doing the same things in the end..... whats rhe point in voting if they just say what we want to hear and then turn around and assfuck us when they get elected anyway?
We have no say anymore.
Which is why we need to stop voting in the same shit. Vote for a 3rd party... write in someone... Whatever it takes. Just stop voting for the same shit.
If you keep bringing in the same shit, the smell never changes.
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Which is why we need to stop voting in the same shit. Vote for a 3rd party... write in someone... Whatever it takes. Just stop voting for the same shit.
Honorable idea, Tu, but it's just a wasted vote. Symbolic and feel-good, but wasted nonetheless.
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Which is why we need to stop voting in the same shit. Vote for a 3rd party... write in someone... Whatever it takes. Just stop voting for the same shit.
If you keep bringing in the same shit, the smell never changes.
usually I vote 3rd part... I voted romney this year because I hate obama so much.... however, the 2 parties have convinced the idiot masses that they dont have a 3rd option and that the 2 parties know what's best for them anyway. :D
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Honorable idea, Tu, but it's just a wasted vote. Symbolic and feel-good, but wasted nonetheless.
That idea is exactly what's wrong.
It is NEVER a waste to vote with what you believe. I BELIEVE the people in the two parties are disgusting and should be ousted... AT LEAST realize they can be eliminated and replaced.
The idea that it's a wasted vote is what's sad.
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That idea is exactly what's wrong.
It is NEVER a waste to vote with what you believe. I BELIEVE the people in the two parties are disgusting and should be ousted... AT LEAST realize they can be eliminated and replaced.
The idea that it's a wasted vote is what's sad.
I won't argue. You feel passionately about this, and I respect that. I just disagree is all.
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The Mexican government isn't stupid, for the last thirty years they've been sending their poorest and lowest IQ residents over the border. The average Mexican isn't any dumber than the average American , but 90% of the illegals are the Mexican equivalent of honey boo boos family. If we sent our obese trailer dwellers and inner city yoot to Mexico it would be a fine exchange program but its a one way street.
Which is fine if those simple peasants are doing jobs Americans actually won't do like fruit picking or back breaking manual labor.. But when two people with room temp iqs have five anchor babies, and those kids grow up as entitled and lazy as American kids and won't do the hard manual work their parents did, but drop out of high school and have no skills.. Well, yes were fucked. To the tune of a hundred grand a year in tax dollars per family and rising.
Lol. Labor! God forbid!
I'm sure there are plenty of guys who would do those jobs.
seems to not matter anyway... we vote for one thing, or a person, and then they turn around and do what we didnt want anyway.... its enough to tell us that someone else is calling the shots.
and they all wind up doing the same things in the end..... whats rhe point in voting if they just say what we want to hear and then turn around and assfuck us when they get elected anyway?
We have no say anymore.
Shysters and snake-oil peddlers. These guys should all be wearing plaid jackets and working a used car lot, not running a country.
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Lol. Labor! God forbid!
I'm sure there are plenty of guys who would do those jobs.
Shysters and snake-oil peddlers. These guys should all be wearing plaid jackets and working a used car lot, not running a country.
Seasonal work that pays way under minimal wage, and requires you to destroy your body doing it, like bending over twelve hours a day picking berries? No one who grew up in a first world country is doing that for $5 an hour. I'm not talking about construction, I'm talking about the absolute worst kind of manual farm work that pays nothing remotely close to a living wage.
Its necessary we exploit people to keep enjoying our consumerist society. The problem is when the real costs of the "cheap" indentured labor is passed onto the tax payers via ebt, using er as medical , cost of their kids.
Then the kids destroy the schools and lower the education of everyone else. Luckily we have a huge number of Chinese immigrants coming into my town who raise property values, lower crime, their kids improve schools and they will eventually vote out the white-guilt welfare political candidates.. But it will take years.
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That idea is exactly what's wrong.
It is NEVER a waste to vote with what you believe. I BELIEVE the people in the two parties are disgusting and should be ousted... AT LEAST realize they can be eliminated and replaced.
The idea that it's a wasted vote is what's sad.
Absolutely agree. I'm hoping that by 2016 the technomedia will have evolved further and allow a third party to thrive without the massive financial support it now requires. I think as this generations becomes more savvy, this could take root.
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Sydney: a second teenager was in coma on Sunday after his skull was fractured in another 1 punch attack on Sydney's street.
Steroids allegedly found in accused (Corey Board) home.
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Sydney: a second teenager was in coma on Sunday after his skull was fractured in another 1 punch attack on Sydney's street.
Steroids allegedly found in accused (Corey Board) home.
At least he wasn't attacked by a pitbull :-\
Both incidents could've been avoided if he had a CCW. But now he's in a coma.
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At least he wasn't attacked by a pitbull :-\
Both incidents could've been avoided if he had a CCW. But now he's in a coma.
People don't do things like that where they are afraid of getting shot.
Hell, I wish I could open carry in California... That is the one thing I miss about Virginia.
If you see someone carrying, you don't fuck with them.
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People don't do things like that where they are afraid of getting shot.
Hell, I wish I could open carry in California...
Yea tell me about it. Still waiting on my CCW. Had to suck some Sheriff's dick just to get the forms in.
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Yea tell me about it. Still waiting on my CCW. Had to suck some Sheriff's dick just to get the forms in.
You've never been tight lipped when it comes to guns.
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Unexpected? Detroit Police Chief Says Armed, Law-Abiding Americans ‘Translates Into Crime Reduction’
Jan. 4, 2014 10:51am Erica Ritz
In a crime-ridden city dominated by progressives, one might not expect the police chief to advocate citizens protecting themselves. But that’s exactly what happened in Detroit on Thursday.
Detroit Police Chief James Craig was speaking at a press conference at police headquarters when he revealed how his opinion of concealed carry permits radically shifted over the years.
(http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Screen-Shot-2014-01-04-at-10.38.50-AM.png)
Chief of Police James E. Craig
“Coming from California, where it takes an act of Congress to get a concealed weapon permit, I got to Maine, where they give out lots of CCWs [carrying concealed weapon permits], and I had a stack of CCW permits I was denying; that was my orientation,” Craig, who had a 28-year career with the LAPD remarked.
“I changed my orientation real quick. Maine is one of the safest places in America. Clearly, suspects knew that good Americans were armed,” he added.
Craig was appointed chief of police for the Portland, Maine Police Department on May 4, 2009, before returning to Detroit as chief of police July 1, 2013.
In 2013, Detroit saw a 7 percent drop in violent crime. Craig said the department recorded a 50% clearance rate for 2013 homicides, which was an improvement, but his goal this year is 70% clearance rate.
The Detroit News points out that this isn’t the first time Craig has spoken out in favor of concealed carry permits.
Speaking on the Paul W. Smith show several weeks ago, Craig remarked: “There’s a number of CPL (concealed pistol license) holders running around the city of Detroit. I think it acts as a deterrent. Good Americans with CPLs translates into crime reduction. I learned that real quick in the state of Maine.”
Rick Ector of the Firearm Academy of Detroit said Craig’s comments represent a “huge, radical departure” from other police chiefs.
“I’m not ready to say he’s pro-gun just yet, but it’s vastly different from what police chiefs have said in the past,” Ector said.
Click here to read the entire story at The Detroit News.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/01/04/unexpected-detroit-police-chief-says-armed-law-abiding-americans-translates-into-crime-reduction/
I wonder what the Australian convict E-Tard has to say about that!
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You've never been tight lipped when it comes to guns.
LOL I see what you did there. I bet you've got a juicy & girty barrel yourself stud.
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I got a double barrel sawed off 12 gauge shotgun right by my door. Intruders beware.
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Port Arthur was a government control event anyway, no way does a retard with an IQ of 66 hit 19 headshots out of 20 bullets fired, wasn't a trial they wouldn't let him plead not guilty! They said it would further distress the victims if there was a trial, when have you EVER heard that before. Not unless the shooter was a top marksmen could they hit that. I am not a believer in conspiracy theories but the 19 of 20 with an advanced weapon is not possible by some inbred bogan!!!
Only people that get shot in Australia the vast majority of the time are serious criminals to begin with anyway.
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I am not a believer in conspiracy theories but the 19 of 20 with an advanced weapon is not possible by some inbred bogan!!!
Your post certainly doesn't support this claim.
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Your post certainly doesn't support this claim.
OBW who was Aussie cop who re-sold that gun from police station ;)
Gun was handed in 3 months earlier :o
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Seasonal work that pays way under minimal wage, and requires you to destroy your body doing it, like bending over twelve hours a day picking berries? No one who grew up in a first world country is doing that for $5 an hour. I'm not talking about construction, I'm talking about the absolute worst kind of manual farm work that pays nothing remotely close to a living wage.
Its necessary we exploit people to keep enjoying our consumerist society. The problem is when the real costs of the "cheap" indentured labor is passed onto the tax payers via ebt, using er as medical , cost of their kids.
Then the kids destroy the schools and lower the education of everyone else. Luckily we have a huge number of Chinese immigrants coming into my town who raise property values, lower crime, their kids improve schools and they will eventually vote out the white-guilt welfare political candidates.. But it will take years.
LOL...another great post by Mawse. ;D
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I guess these stats don't factor in population growth and Muslims?
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I guess these stats don't factor in population growth and Muslims?
Just increase the rape of 18 year old white girls by 1000 percent and the rape of 10 year old white girls by 10,000 percent.
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It is critical, but here's the rub... both of the parties want the latino vote. Which they believe means they need to give amnesty... The sides can agree on one thing, they want those votes.
When you add it up, the real losers are the average people who believe in laws and the rules... Those people are not getting out and voting in THEIR best interest.
The people screaming and yelling are the ghetto trash and the redneck beer swillers who are sitting on their asses and doing nothing.
I vote. You vote. Maybe a lot of people like US vote... That's not going to get it done though.
People are so apathetic that they just sit on their fucking asses.
Good point. Don't get me wrong; I know a lot of good latino ppl with good values. Most own their own biznitch and would never vote for democrats. Just shows how common sense crosses cultural borders. 8)
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Good point. Don't get me wrong; I know a lot of good latino ppl with good values. Most own their own biznitch and would never vote for democrats. Just shows how common sense crosses cultural borders. 8)
Agreed... Any legal immigrant hates an illegal. They worked to get here the right way and someone else wants to coast? They hate that shit.
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Aussie lifter of peace :-\
"Accused king-hitter Shaun McNeil is a self-confessed gym junkie into martial arts, rappers and selfies"
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/accused-kinghitter-shaun-mcneil-is-a-selfconfessed-gym-junkie-into-martial-arts-rappers-and-selfies/story-fni0cx12-1226793334411
(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2014/01/01/1226793/333416-3e20ef58-72a2-11e3-a270-7f94192abf56.jpg) (http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2014/01/01/1226793/334328-c513766c-72b0-11e3-82a9-fbdd3ae7c5df.jpg)
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Aussie lifter of peace :-\
"Accused king-hitter Shaun McNeil is a self-confessed gym junkie into martial arts, rappers and selfies"
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/accused-kinghitter-shaun-mcneil-is-a-selfconfessed-gym-junkie-into-martial-arts-rappers-and-selfies/story-fni0cx12-1226793334411
(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2014/01/01/1226793/333416-3e20ef58-72a2-11e3-a270-7f94192abf56.jpg) (http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2014/01/01/1226793/334328-c513766c-72b0-11e3-82a9-fbdd3ae7c5df.jpg)
permabulker for sure.
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permabulker for sure.
He is fucked, all over news today, life time for murder.
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Just another tattoo covered monkey.
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He is fucked, all over news today, life time for murder.
I hope so the last c.unt got a few years only. I hope he goes to supermax...or where ever they rape one another.
they were discussing this on the ABC, saying alcohol isn't the issue, its steroids, it makes these goons too strong.
this was from a journalist. the same bitch that said "don't light fires, better to be safe then sorry" dumb bitch
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I hope so the last c.unt got a few years only. I hope he goes to supermax...or where ever they rape one another.
they were discussing this on the ABC, saying alcohol isn't the issue, its steroids, it makes these goons too strong.
this was from a journalist. the same bitch that said "don't light fires, better to be safe then sorry" dumb bitch
The last one was white Abo ;), 4 years ?.
ABC TV & radio gone too much soft cock,pro lesbian,too much left, I hope Abott will nail them financially.
Catalyst crew should advise them about steroids.
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The last one was white Abo ;), 4 years ?.
ABC TV & radio gone too much soft cock,pro lesbian,too much left, I hope Abott will nail them financially.
Catalyst crew should advise them about steroids.
White abo, great he can join the rest of his fucken family.
ABC journalist are terrible, some bitch was on saying she's a atheist and went on for 5 mins, who the fuck cares, just report the news you ugly bitch.
Side note: ABC must be on a big budget, the female journalist are not groomed at all. Wash and wear hair and little to no makeup.
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I love hoiw verginia has 10% of gun crime of uk because of conceal carry
no one robs cuz gandma can have .38
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He is fucked, all over news today, life time for murder.
Feeding him to the sharks is a cheaper route :)
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It must suck ass to be an Australian. Your pussy politicians screwed you even worse than ours.
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Australian and proud. I have been to the US, its a fucken hole.
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Australian and proud. I have been to the US, its a fucken hole.
Too bad you can't defend your own property. Just hope and pray no bad guys ever try to invade your home and gang rape your wife.
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Too bad you can't defend your own property. Just hope and pray no bad guys ever try to invade your home and gang rape your wife.
defend it, the crime rate is low here man, most people don't have guns. trust me, Australia shits on the US.
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defend it, the crime rate is low here man, most people don't have guns. trust me, Australia shits on the US.
So as long as it doesn't happen to you (based on your wishful thinking) it's OK for the unfortunate victims to suffer. Just keep hoping you're not one of those unfortunates.
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So as long as it doesn't happen to you (based on your wishful thinking) it's OK for the unfortunate victims to suffer. Just keep hoping you're not one of those unfortunates.
I will be fine, theres no problems here.
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I will be fine, theres no problems here.
How so? Do you have a gun? Or are you some sort of MMA champion?
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I don't need a gun, im not involved in drug or illicit activity. people don't get shot in Australia for no reason.
If I got shot I deserved it.
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I don't need a gun, im not involved in drug or illicit activity. people don't get shot in Australia for no reason.
If I got shot I deserved it.
You don't have violent breaking and entering? You don't have assaults on the elderly? You don't have rape?
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You don't have violent breaking and entering? You don't have assaults on the elderly? You don't have rape?
ofcourse, australias major crime is domestic violence.
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ofcourse, australias major crime is domestic violence.
So how do they protect themselves?
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So how do they protect themselves?
protect ourselves, I have never been attacked, nor have my friends or family.
it must be a American thing.
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protect ourselves, I have never been attacked, nor have my friends or family.
it must be a American thing.
X2, here the same in Europe. Americans are just in love with guns, will they ever learn?
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protect ourselves, I have never been attacked, nor have my friends or family.
it must be a American thing.
Most American's have never been attacked either.
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Most American's have never been attacked either.
The USA is in the dark ages. Glad im in Australia. The US is a shithole.
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X2, here the same in Europe. Americans are just in love with guns, will they even learn?
What country in Europe you from? One that took it in the ass from Hitler?
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What country in Europe you from? One that took it in the ass from Hitler?
don't be like that, lets have a proper conversation.
If I lived in the US I would own a gun too, too many unemployed junkies there.
All the best to you, if someone breaks into your home and u have gun in hand and you feel threatened, shoot the fuck.
Its very rare that happens here.
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What country in Europe you from? One that took it in the ass from Hitler?
You better shut your big mouth when you can't win a discussion with rational arguments, dumb yank ::)
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You better shut your big mouth when you can't win a discussion with rational arguments, dumb yank ::)
What country? ::)
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What country? ::)
Irellevant
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Irellevant
LOL - you've answered my question with your embarrassed silence.
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Disarmed Australians Have A Word of Warning For Americans
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/82988148/
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And these stupid assholes defend their gun free culture ::)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=512611.0;attach=547879;image)
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The US vs other countries stats for deaths etc is in the intro of this research paper online.
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0077552 (http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0077552)
Now don't worry about the title you US folk, not what you think really, read closely
Racism, Gun Ownership and Gun Control: Biased Attitudes in US Whites May Influence Policy Decisions
Not controversial at all, and written by q damn Ausi ;D
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You guys still don't get it. Must be because of the difference in culture.
The guns aren't to protect us from each other. They are to protect us from our government.
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You guys still don't get it. Must be because of the difference in culture.
The guns aren't to protect us from each other. They are to protect us from our government.
GOD BLESS AMERICA
those who give up freedom for safety deserve neither
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You guys still don't get it. Must be because of the difference in culture.
The guns aren't to protect us from each other. They are to protect us from our government.
Dude what do you mean, other cultures. Do you have any idea how the US culture is viewed elsewhere in the world?
Do you mean the rest of the western world??. The US is basically the only western country with this odd gun culture/law (your govt shafts you constantly, what more could it do to you??). YEMEN, one of the dodgy nations that US, and other nations are rightfully watchful of, is the next highest country for gun ownership, and it has 1/2 the rate of ownership. You guys have 88 guns per 100 people. Most of your guns are in the hands of only 35% of the US population, and that 35odd% is buying more of them. Whats up with that. Now most other countries say its fine to own a rifle or shotgun for hunting and sport shooting, but there are licences like for driving a car, and you can't carry them round in public places for safety reasons.
The stats show that US whites are twice as likely to kill themselves/suicide with their own guns, than be killed in a gun homicide. And just having one in the home massively ups the rate of someone in that home killing themselves or a loved one in the home, when compared to homes without guns. Yes in other countries you may get robbed, but you go home alive!
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You guys still don't get it. Must be because of the difference in culture.
The guns aren't to protect us from each other. They are to protect us from our government.
Do you really believe that? Do you have a drone? how big is your budget?
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Do you really believe that? Do you have a drone? how big is your budget?
Yes I do.
I don't need a "drone"
How many drones do you think you need to have to stop 300 million guns (because that's what we have here in the US)
My budget is the collective budget of the entire country. If a revolution occurs, then you can bet your ass the government can't stop us.
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Those crime statistics have little to do with the availability of guns (in fact, guns have little to no effect on overall violent crime rates).
However, I would bet that the rise in those crime statistics can be directly attributed to Australia's insistence on letting in millions of uneducated Third-Worlders swarm into their country and eat away at the social safety net.
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You guys still don't get it. Must be because of the difference in culture.
The guns aren't to protect us from each other. They are to protect us from our government.
mine is to protect me from wild packs of Obamas sons kicking down doors in the middle of the night. They are targeting Asian / Indian households in our area because they know those ethnicities are less likely to have a guard dog or gun (and more likely to keep valuables in their homes)
A little old lady just down our street had her door kicked in recently and a gang of Disadvantaged Youth burst in waving a gun in her face. Luckily for her , her son in law and friends were in the back and had their own gun and the scum ran away.
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GOD BLESS AMERICA
those who give up freedom for safety deserve neither
You could not compere America vs Australia in crime (or US & Euro countries), totally different worlds.
Yeah, "God" bless America ;D amigo visit old World,Australia,Asia.......
What is FREEDOM ?, who is more free ??, I can go anywhere at anytime around Sydney, not like in almost all big US towns,
no suburbs in ruins.
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mine is to protect me from wild packs of Obamas sons kicking down doors in the middle of the night. They are targeting Asian / Indian households in our area because they know those ethnicities are less likely to have a guard dog or gun (and more likely to keep valuables in their homes)
A little old lady just down our street had her door kicked in recently and a gang of Disadvantaged Youth burst in waving a gun in her face. Luckily for her , her son in law and friends were in the back and had their own gun and the scum ran away.
should have taken the opportunity to kill them sons a bitches. Seriously though, door kicked in = golden opportunity to kill a guy.
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If I were God, I would rather punish them for failing in virtually every aspect possible.
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Yes I do.
I don't need a "drone"
How many drones do you think you need to have to stop 300 million guns (because that's what we have here in the US)
My budget is the collective budget of the entire country. If a revolution occurs, then you can bet your ass the government can't stop us.
I'n not trying to argue with you. but how many rounds of ammunition do you have?
How many bullets do you think most Muricans have? do you have enough bullets to carry one day of war?
How many drones to stop 300 million? a dozen can do the job..really easy.
Can you do a carpet bombing? how many Muricans can do that?
"President Obama has just stated a policy that he can have any American citizen killed without any charge, without any review, except his own. If he’s satisfied that you are a terrorist, he says that he can kill you anywhere in the world including in the United States.
Two of his aides just … reaffirmed they believe that American citizens can be killed on the order of the President anywhere including the United States.
You’ve now got a president who says that he can kill you on his own discretion. He can jail you indefinitely on his own discretion"
Good luck. ;)
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I'n not trying to argue with you. but how many rounds of ammunition do you have?
How many bullets do you think most Muricans have? do you have enough bullets to carry one day of war?
How many drones to stop 300 million? a dozen can do the job..really easy.
Can you do a carpet bombing? how many Muricans can do that?
"President Obama has just stated a policy that he can have any American citizen killed without any charge, without any review, except his own. If he’s satisfied that you are a terrorist, he says that he can kill you anywhere in the world including in the United States.
Two of his aides just … reaffirmed they believe that American citizens can be killed on the order of the President anywhere including the United States.
You’ve now got a president who says that he can kill you on his own discretion. He can jail you indefinitely on his own discretion"
Good luck. ;)
youre assuming the military would be cool with opening fire on its own citizens. It wouldnt.
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youre assuming the military would be cool with opening fire on its own citizens. It wouldnt.
The police does that on a regular basis.
Civil war? really?
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The police does that on a regular basis.
Civil war? really?
it would split down the middle. Just as it did then. It wouldnt be the us militaru and gov vs the citizens, thats asinine
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it would split down the middle. Just as it did then. It wouldnt be the us militaru and gov vs the citizens, thats asinine
And who won the last time?
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And who won the last time?
Your question is insinuating that it was the military that won last time... It wasn't... It was a side that included "A" military and citizens.
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Your question is insinuating that it was the military that won last time... It wasn't... It was a side that included "A" military and citizens.
Not to mention that its vastly differing scenarios as well. Implying the outcome of a modern civil war would be the same because they are both "civil wars" makes little to no sense.
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My poist is: shock said that the army wouldn't open fire on its own civilians.
Civil War both sides shot civilians...Am I right?
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Dude what do you mean, other cultures. Do you have any idea how the US culture is viewed elsewhere in the world?
Hey there you pompous ass. Who the fuck cares how another nation of slaves views us? We are a free country - we are a free country because we were ARMED and defeated our oppressors. And yes, in the near future, we may free ourselves from the current oppression AGAIN.
Meanwhile you just do whatever your masters say, ok....?
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Dude what do you mean, other cultures. Do you have any idea how the US culture is viewed elsewhere in the world?
Do you mean the rest of the western world??. The US is basically the only western country with this odd gun culture/law (your govt shafts you constantly, what more could it do to you??). YEMEN, one of the dodgy nations that US, and other nations are rightfully watchful of, is the next highest country for gun ownership, and it has 1/2 the rate of ownership. You guys have 88 guns per 100 people. Most of your guns are in the hands of only 35% of the US population, and that 35odd% is buying more of them. Whats up with that. Now most other countries say its fine to own a rifle or shotgun for hunting and sport shooting, but there are licences like for driving a car, and you can't carry them round in public places for safety reasons.
The stats show that US whites are twice as likely to kill themselves/suicide with their own guns, than be killed in a gun homicide. And just having one in the home massively ups the rate of someone in that home killing themselves or a loved one in the home, when compared to homes without guns. Yes in other countries you may get robbed, but you go home alive!
You also have no ability to overthrow your government... The next time your government gets out of line, you let me know what those sticks are going to do for you.
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upstanding aussie of peace
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You also have no ability to overthrow your government... The next time your government gets out of line, you let me know what those sticks are going to do for you.
lol @ thinking some crazed armed citizens are going to overthrow the most powerful military in the world.
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lol @ thinking some crazed armed citizens are going to overthrow the most powerful military in the world.
Uh, the American Revolution... ::)
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lol @ thinking some crazed armed citizens are going to overthrow the most powerful military in the world.
Yeah..America is not a military dictatorship. In this unlikely scenario, the military would not be hostile towards the populace. You think the right wingers on this board are crazy? 2/3 of the military are like minded.
The right to keep and bear arms as defined by the our constitution is not solely intended for overthrowing a tyrannical gov't. Think of it as an indelible right.
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Uh, the American Revolution... ::)
lol, a few things have changed since the 1700's. Kicking out a few poms a couple of hundred years ago hardly equates to modern day citizens overthrowing the American Government.
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lol, a few things have changed since the 1700's. Kicking out a few poms a couple of hundred years ago hardly equates to modern day citizens overthrowing the American Government.
No shit Sherlock. But it's a lot more complicated than that.
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lol, a few things have changed since the 1700's. Kicking out a few poms a couple of hundred years ago hardly equates to modern day citizens overthrowing the American Government.
2 "Revolutions" in Aussie history:
- The Eureka rebellion 1854, 27 dead + unknown number of Chinese gold diggers ?
- Castle Hill convict rebellion 1804, 15 dead & 9 executed
No other real shit 4 the last 160 years, booooring !!!!!!
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lol @ thinking some crazed armed citizens are going to overthrow the most powerful military in the world.
300 million potentially armed citizens can damn sure do it.
If you're too scared to fight for your rights, then that's on you.