Australia of Peace...

[HandsomeMOFO]

LOL what a dumb fuck country you criminals have LOL...

Thanks for setting a precedent  

Dumb fucking Ozzies.  Any real man knows you NEVER give up your guns.

[James28]

Australia is still very safe, very rarely is there shootings, if there is its repeated on the news for 1 month.

then it's usually immigrant scumbags too

[Thick Nick]

LOL what a dumb fuck country you criminals have LOL...

Thanks for setting a precedent 

Any comment E-Kul? You were all for this right?

[Radical Plato]

Any comment E-Kul? You were all for this right?

I was 23 at the time, and nobody I knew owned a gun nor wanted to.  Even if guns were available I still wouldn't choose to own one, nor would anybody I know.  Guns just don't have the obsessive appeal for Australians that they do for Americans.  Australians prefer to reduce or eliminate the potential to be a victim in a mass shooting over the right to own a gun that only provides at best a false sense of security.  Unlimited freedom doesn't appeal to me if it increases my chances to be seriously injured or killed, which I believe would be the case if our Country had the same lax gun laws America does coupled with a virulent gun culture.

[HandsomeMOFO]

I was 23 at the time, and nobody I knew owned a gun nor wanted to.  Even if guns were available I still wouldn't choose to own one, nor would anybody I know.  Guns just don't have the obsessive appeal for Australians that they do for Americans.  Australians prefer to reduce or eliminate the potential to be a victim in a mass shooting over the right to own a gun that only provides at best a false sense of security.  Unlimited freedom doesn't appeal to me if it increases my chances to be seriously injured or killed, which I believe would be the case if our Country had the same lax gun laws America does coupled with a virulent gun culture.

You sound like a convict coward.  Were your ancestors deported for some cowardly act?

[Radical Plato]

You sound like a convict coward.  Were your ancestors deported for some cowardly act?

lol @ people too afraid to live without owning a gun calling those that aren't afraid to do so, cowards.  Oh the irony. If the world is as scarier place as you Americans make out, wouldn't the courageous ones be those who choose to not arm themselves.

[HandsomeMOFO]

If the world is as scarier place as you Americans make out, wouldn't the courageous ones be those who choose to not arm themselves.

No, here we call them STUPID.  Are you Ozzies stupid as a rule?

[Thick Nick]

I was 23 at the time, and nobody I knew owned a gun nor wanted to.  Even if guns were available I still wouldn't choose to own one, nor would anybody I know.  Guns just don't have the obsessive appeal for Australians that they do for Americans.  Australians prefer to reduce or eliminate the potential to be a victim in a mass shooting over the right to own a gun that only provides at best a false sense of security.  Unlimited freedom doesn't appeal to me if it increases my chances to be seriously injured or killed, which I believe would be the case if our Country had the same lax gun laws America does coupled with a virulent gun culture.

Of course, killing people one at a time is way better. 8/

[Tapeworm]

None of this is an issue in Aus.  It simply never occurs to me to need or want a gun.  There's no threat to be prepared for.  I understand that may be a foreign concept but it's true.

If I lived in the US I'd have some serious munitions.

[Radical Plato]

Of course, killing people one at a time is way better. 8/

Of course it is not, but that threat was reduced also with strict gun control.  The majority of those killing each with guns is between organised criminals and Bikers.

[manuelsonn]

Active safety measures in autovehicules :abs, esp, brake assist didnt reduced the number of car accidents because of the increased confidence of drivers who beneficiate of this sistems  ("i have abs i an go a little faster on icy road, ha"). So the number of victims saved by using a gun in self defense will be compensated by the madmans who get in possesions of daddy rifle - the conclusion is that guns are useful if they re in possesion of a responsable citizen, which, in 2013, doesnt mean anything

[Teutonic Knight]

Of course it is not, but that threat was reduced also with strict gun control.  The majority of those killing each with guns is between organised criminals and Bikers.

"Bikers" crime in Australia is less than 1%, but they get 1000% media publicity for nothing !.
Fact is domestic violence is the big one.
Nobody commits more crime than Australian Aboriginals but only 1% is reported, how many children is rape in Abo settlements,
how much money is given/spend on them, (remember "Intervention")
1 Abo smashes another (they call it traditional law) & get fix by white man.
Every 3rd young Abo is behind bars, FACT.
Australia is gone too much soft cock & is easy prey 4 China & India !.
WHITE man is simply screwed in ex penal colony of Botany Bay.

[Mawse]

But isn't gun ownership for self defense purposes based on ones fear of being killed by an armed assailant.  Don't people who own guns do so because they are afraid of other people who own guns.  And if anything can be used as a murderous weapon, why own a gun? Just use a knife or a shovel or something.  Why specifically a gun?

Because I own an expensive home in a nice area that borders a formerly working class town that is now filled with Trayvons thanks to decades of progressive democrats building low income housing (no income to be more accurate)

So I have a soon to be schutzhund trained German rotweiller to discourage any of obamas sons who might decide to invade my home, and the German sidearm is necessary if any of them are cracked out enough to think about breaking into a house with a 100 lb protection dog

[AVBG]

None of this is an issue in Aus.  It simply never occurs to me to need or want a gun.  There's no threat to be prepared for.  I understand that may be a foreign concept but it's true.

If I lived in the US I'd have some serious munitions.

X2

[pluck]

This guy isn't american?

Ahaha add another internet peasant to the list.

I can't get over how warm and fuzzy I feel when I foreigners engage in american politics.

If you're an american reading this, pat yourself on the back, we did it!

The Ekul fag obviously is a pole smoker. He advocates killing of Muslims and Arabs but when some crazed fuuuck in America goes on a rampage he starts acting high and mighty about saving and protecting lives. You can't have it both ways fuckstick.

BTW I own a decent amount of guns that I use mostly for target shooting and some hunting a couple times a year. I'm a responsible gun owner and mind my own business. Why should I be punished because an insignificant amount of assholesz fuck it up for everyone else?

By efags logic all cars should be 4 cylinders and have governors installed to limit speed at 70mph. Because technically there is no reason for going any faster. Anything more is a danger to everyone.

It's called personal freedom.

[Alex23]

The Ekul fag obviously is a pole smoker. He advocates killing of Muslims and Arabs but when some crazed fuuuck in America goes on a rampage he starts acting high and mighty about saving and protecting lives. You can't have it both ways fuckstick.

BTW I own a decent amount of guns that I use mostly for target shooting and some hunting a couple times a year. I'm a responsible gun owner and mind my own business. Why should I be punished because an insignificant amount of assholesz fuck it up for everyone else?

By efags logic all cars should be 4 cylinders and have governors installed to limit speed at 70mph. Because technically there is no reason for going any faster. Anything more is a danger to everyone.

It's called personal freedom.

Awesome post Captain.

Spoken like a freedom fighter. The car analogy hits the nail on the head.

They don't get it and never will. Not surprising considering the historical facts.

[Radical Plato]

The Ekul fag obviously is a pole smoker. He advocates killing of Muslims and Arabs but when some crazed fuuuck in America goes on a rampage he starts acting high and mighty about saving and protecting lives. You can't have it both ways fuckstick.

BTW I own a decent amount of guns that I use mostly for target shooting and some hunting a couple times a year. I'm a responsible gun owner and mind my own business. Why should I be punished because an insignificant amount of assholesz fuck it up for everyone else?

By efags logic all cars should be 4 cylinders and have governors installed to limit speed at 70mph. Because technically there is no reason for going any faster. Anything more is a danger to everyone.

It's called personal freedom.

There is a limit to personal freedom.  This is why we all agree to drive on the same side of the road, govern our speed and not use intoxicants that inhibit our ability to drive safely.  Essentially all laws are punitive because of the few who can't govern themselves. If everybody was responsible and decent we wouldn't need laws.  That's the point, the few always fuck it up for the many.  Anyone could argue that they are responsible enough to drive over the speed limit and occasionally drink and drive, doesn't change the fact that if enough people participate in such behaviour the risk to everybody else goes up.  What gets me, is why people have A NEED for guns, why do they feel punished if they aren't allowed to own one.  I am not allowed to own a tiger, an apache attack helicopter or chemical weapons, yet oddly enough, I don't feel I am being punished because of that.

[Roger Bacon]

You can own any kind of Animal you want in several states here, although idiot politicians are slowly outlawing it based on a freak occurrence.

Our right to bear arms really has nothing to do with self defense or hunting. You sound foolish when you keep brining that up.

[Alex23]

There is a limit to personal freedom.  This is why we all agree to drive on the same side of the road, govern our speed and not use intoxicants that inhibit our ability to drive safely.  Essentially all laws are punitive because of the few who can't govern themselves. If everybody was responsible and decent we wouldn't need laws.  That's the point, the few always fuck it up for the many.  Anyone could argue that they are responsible enough to drive over the speed limit and occasionally drink and drive, doesn't change the fact that if enough people participate in such behaviour the risk to everybody else goes up.  What gets me, is why people have A NEED for guns, why do they feel punished if they aren't allowed to own one.  I am not allowed to own a tiger, an apache attack helicopter or chemical weapons, yet oddly enough, I don't feel I am being punished because of that.

Maybe you are but too coward to stand up for your rights.  

[booty]

My father is a gun collector.  He was very upset when he had to hand over half of them to the government. 

[Alex23]

My father is a gun collector.  He was very upset when he had to hand over half of them to the government. 

Well I'm sure it prevented a couple of shooting rampages he was about the commit. 

Big brother of Peace.

[booty]

Well I'm sure it prevented a couple of shooting rampages he was about the commit. 

Big brother of Peace.

Yes I know what you mean.  The gun owners are not the criminals.  They do the right thing. 

[Radical Plato]

Maybe you are but too coward to stand up for your rights.  

You probably have trouble envisaging what Australia is like, the majority don't care to have the right to own a gun for self defense. In the mainstream it NEVER comes up as an issue, people don't talk about it, they simply don't care about guns.  Australia is the opposite to America, only a small minority here are what you would call gun Nutters who believe they have an undeniable right to bear arms.  The average Australian cares more about the Universal Human right to safety and security.  Increasing ones odd of being seriously injured or killed all so you can throw a gun in the safe at home holds little appeal to Australians, most of whom value their lives.  We actually look to America as an example of what not to do if you want to protect the decent citizens of your Country.

[jwb]

When I lived in sydney my girl friend was working in a pub when it got robbed. Gun in her face.

Cops turned up while it was in progress but stayed hidden outside and let the robbers leave with the cash.

Nobody was hurt and the CCTV was used to figure out who did it and they were arrested shortly after.

Imagine this situation in the USA....

[Radical Plato]

When I lived in sydney my girl friend was working in a pub when it got robbed. Gun in her face.

Cops turned up while it was in progress but stayed hidden outside and let the robbers leave with the cash.

Nobody was hurt and the CCTV was used to figure out who did it and they were arrested shortly after.

Imagine this situation in the USA....

This was my argument, people waving guns around generally want something, in most cases money or something of value.  Give them what they want and you get to live another day.  No need to be a hero and force a shootout at the O.K. Corral.

A psychotic Shooter going on a mass killing spree, can't be compromised with as they just want to take as much revenge on society as they can.  These type of  mass killing sprees are preventable with strict gun control I believe. At least it has worked here in Australia.  Farmers and Hunters can still get a gun license, sports shooters can too, although there are some strict requirements, but those who are generally responsible can get them.