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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: galeniko on January 15, 2014, 11:37:40 AM
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everyone says if they done proeprly theyre safe.
i say they not needed and best avoided altogether if you want a good physique.
lets face it,its exercises for the fatties where they use straps kneebends and half rom to feel better about themselves(atleast im strong bro,whats your lift?)
can add benchpress to that, esp the powerlift type with more accesssoires-lifting gear than hollywood celebs wear for oscar nomination night,and bent their backs to an u and uses shortest rom possible to make it legal.
and snatchtes oh brother, its basicaly an upright row,then swing the weight and get under it followed by half rep shoulder pres.
why not be less a retard and do a set of upright row and keep the tension on muscle,followed by a proper set of shoulder press.
safe is a relative term, its relatively safe to jump from a 2 story building ::)
fuck the gurus who say those are somehow mandatory.and fuck the old school blabla.
if we were all so oldschool, wed still belive the earth is flat
that is all
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cutting insight from a small thin person......
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lol
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cutting insight from a small thin person......
thats right 8)
maybe i should add, for ppl who dont want be bigger than me.
ofc if someone is shooting for phils throne, it might be a different story.
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I like deads, squats and bench press bro! I get a rush doing these exercises while blasting music....you know the high you get from subjecting your body to torture?! Haha why is this? :)
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I'D still be impressed if I saw' oth 'under bench cranking 400/500 no straps/elbow pads/bench shirt ..
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So what's left in your workout plan? Cable curls and Hammerstrength press?
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thats right 8)
maybe i should add, for ppl who dont want be bigger than me.
ofc if someone is shooting for phils throne, it might be a different story.
touche
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From a guy with blown out shoulder sockets, pancake chest, legs like an inbred parapalegic chicken, back that's weaker than Justun Beeber....good abs though. ::)
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So what's left in your workout plan? Cable curls and Hammerstrength press?
lets not forget quad isolation curls ;D
nah,i just try to get as good pump as possible from everything else,i do light squats though
touche
;D
From a guy with blown out shoulder sockets, pancake chest, legs like an inbred parapalegic chicken, back that's weaker than Justun Beeber....good abs though. ::)
good point , the shoudler happened precisely from bench pressing.
chicken legs?
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not sure if your cankles outsize those :D
built with brutal 130lbs squats and leg curls, no joking thats all i do for legs
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I have to agree. I looked like shit when I did a lot of bench, squat and DL. Now I do more TUT and ROM work with dumbbells and bodyweight exercises.
I still look like shit, but at least I didn't go backwards. :-\
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Rack deadlifts are way better than full range deadlifts for BBing, much safer and you can have a far higher time-under-tension on the upper / midback with a heavy weight.. much less CNS fatigue too.
Squats are safe if done properly, but 99.9% of people do them like retards. I haven't been over 3 plates for a couple of months since tweaking my back and you can make 315 brutally hard if you do it slowly, use a full range and squeeze out of the bottom
Bench, I love this lift and I was pretty good at it, but DBs are much much better for shoulder health even if you bench with perfect form.
Snatches, if not an oly lifter or college athlete then LOL @ you for doing this as you're either a milk-fed Riptard or a Crosstwit.
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no offence to leakygyno but this is absolute shit. dude, your physique is decent but you're getting ideas above your station due to the amount of mutual dicksucking going on here. you have been on drugs for decades and still look small next to women in the pics you posted. put a hoodie on and you disappear. deads and squats will get you big and muscular if you juice or not. if you don't take the drugs you have to do those exercises to have any strength and/or size.
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no offence to leakygyno but this is absolute shit. dude, your physique is decent but you're getting ideas above your station due to the amount of mutual dicksucking going on here. you have been on drugs for decades and still look small next to women in the pics you posted. put a hoodie on and you disappear. deads and squats will get you big and muscular if you juice or not. if you don't take the drugs you have to do those exercises to have any strength and/or size.
well fair enough if a natural has to do those.
deads and squats will activate all the androgen receptors in the obliques very well,esp on gear.
btw that woman was huge ;D
dumbel press targets the chest much better than barbell press
i dont get it how people dont see it
the bar holds itself together, you dont have to lift it to your center line which is what the pecs would do
yes such things, thats my point, ofc i stated everything bit more provocative, but thats my point.
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Gaybendsover acting quite gh15ish lately.
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Gaybendsover acting quite gh15ish lately.
maybe im him
you know, the old trick, controling or being the opposition all in one 8)
THIS IS SOME REALLY TRUE SHIT
IM HAPPY I FOUND OUT JUST IN TIME BEFORE GETTING ON THE GEARS
that and health concerns why i limit myself to current size.
if i try to go bigger, obliques become the fastest growing part.oh well.
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maybe im him
you know, the old trick, controling or being the opposition all in one 8)
that and health concerns why i limit myself to current size.
if i try to go bigger, obliques become the fastest growing part.oh well.
you were never his opposition untill the site crashed
you used to post when his elves came here
say hi and i dont have anything against him etc
not hating just saying
its funny how all of a sudden everyones against him now his site is down ???
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Hey guys, could you help me out. I think I misplaced a couple of toothpicks.
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Oh, there they are.
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everyone says if they done proeprly theyre safe.
i say they not needed and best avoided altogether if you want a good physique.
lets face it,its exercises for the fatties where they use straps kneebends and half rom to feel better about themselves(atleast im strong bro,whats your lift?)
can add benchpress to that, esp the powerlift type with more accesssoires-lifting gear than hollywood celebs wear for oscar nomination night,and bent their backs to an u and uses shortest rom possible to make it legal.
and snatchtes oh brother, its basicaly an upright row,then swing the weight and get under it followed by half rep shoulder pres.
why not be less a retard and do a set of upright row and keep the tension on muscle,followed by a proper set of shoulder press.
safe is a relative term, its relatively safe to jump from a 2 story building ::)
fuck the gurus who say those are somehow mandatory.and fuck the old school blabla.
if we were all so oldschool, wed still belive the earth is flat
that is all
Phil agrees , he built his whole entire physique off machines ;D
Even jay this yr going into the O did the same , all the way to machine ab crunches
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a lot of guys drop them once they've got some size but they forget that the exercises were a big part of what built them the size. once you get on a pro drug stack you can walk around with a water jug half assing a machine curl and grow.
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you were never his opposition untill the site crashed
you used to post when his elves came here
say hi and i dont have anything against him etc
not hating just saying
its funny how all of a sudden everyones against him now his site is down ???
i still dotn hate him, found some of the info good, his meltdown posts about me had me laughing for 10 minutes non stop :D
he did something moraly wrong, but oh well.the ppl are supposed to think for themselves.
so yeah, still like him in some ways.
Hey guys, could you help me out. I think I misplaced a couple of toothpicks.
Oh, there they are.
ok this was funny.
but may i see your legs too, no homo, they must be quite the pillars ;D
or you rather the kinda guy who dont train but judges whats too small or big for his liking?thatd be ok too.
a lot of guys drop them once they've got some size but they forget that the exercises were a big part of what built them the size. once you get on a pro drug stack you can walk around with a water jug half assing a machine curl and grow.
well yeah,first initial year i did that too.
i think it made for couple lbs of ure muscle in the long run.
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Some guy who tries to hide his toothpick legs by never posting a full body or showing his legs AND waist talking shit about squats. ::)
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Some guy who tries to hide his toothpick legs by never posting a full body or showing his legs AND waist talking shit about squats. ::)
look whos talking.
i have such pics, but i prefer to post the phenomenal shots only,like on facebook when the girls only put on angled duckface pics,then irl they look nothing like it
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dumbel press targets the chest much better than barbell press
i dont get it how people dont see it
the bar holds itself together, you dont have to lift it to your center line which is what the pecs would do
Very true. The problem is with dumbbell bench press is guys use a limited range of motion and then they can't find dumbbells big enough. I agree all the way that dumbbells hit the chest harder for exactly the reason you stated that the humerus moves through a more complete range of motion toward the mid line of the chest.
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limited range of motion is maybe not the worst thing in bench pressing maybe less chance of tear the tits
exactly, this is why I do mainly dumbbell floor presses. Almost a full range of motion (with my short arms) but you don't do that last dangerous inch - which overstretches the shoulder capsule and risks tearing the pec tendon for maybe 2.5% more muscle involvement.
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ok this was funny.
but may i see your legs too, no homo, they must be quite the pillars ;D
or you rather the kinda guy who dont train but judges whats too small or big for his liking?thatd be ok too.
I was just taking the piss. lol.
I do train. I'm a rather large bloke but my legs don't have the cuts that yours do.
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limited range of motion is maybe not the worst thing in bench pressing maybe less chance of tear the tits
This is true but I feel you should incorporate full ROM with lighter weights on the bench to get that stretch and ROM if you ever need it. Otherwise you'll have tight pecs prone to tears if taken past your normal ROM.
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everyone says if they done proeprly theyre safe.
i say they not needed and best avoided altogether if you want a good physique.
lets face it,its exercises for the fatties where they use straps kneebends and half rom to feel better about themselves(atleast im strong bro,whats your lift?)
can add benchpress to that, esp the powerlift type with more accesssoires-lifting gear than hollywood celebs wear for oscar nomination night,and bent their backs to an u and uses shortest rom possible to make it legal.
and snatchtes oh brother, its basicaly an upright row,then swing the weight and get under it followed by half rep shoulder pres.
why not be less a retard and do a set of upright row and keep the tension on muscle,followed by a proper set of shoulder press.
safe is a relative term, its relatively safe to jump from a 2 story building ::)
fuck the gurus who say those are somehow mandatory.and fuck the old school blabla.
if we were all so oldschool, wed still belive the earth is flat
that is all
I agree non of those exercises are mandetory and yes you can get jacked without them but bro why you got to be so mean ;D
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I agree non of those exercises are mandetory and yes you can get jacked without them but bro why you got to be so mean ;D
they are if you're not on drugs. try never injecting AAS,growth, slin and getting big and strong on cable curls, pressdowns and leg extensions.
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they are if you're not on drugs. try never injecting AAS,growth, slin and getting big and strong on cable curls, pressdowns and leg extensions.
Yup.
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they are if you're not on drugs. try never injecting AAS,growth, slin and getting big and strong on cable curls, pressdowns and leg extensions.
Your muscles don't know the difference between a round weight on a bar or a square one attached to a cable. They just contract.
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Your muscles don't know the difference between a round weight on a bar or a square one attached to a cable. They just contract.
:),,,BRAVO,,SOME NORMALCY RETURNED HERE..
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exactly, this is why I do mainly dumbbell floor presses. Almost a full range of motion (with my short arms) but you don't do that last dangerous inch - which overstretches the shoulder capsule and risks tearing the pec tendon for maybe 2.5% more muscle involvement.
I just started doing these again as a warm-up and forgot how good they felt. These threads are ridiculous... want to be big and strong you train that way...wanna be ripped...you train another way. If you want both you have to train even harder but there are plenty of powerlifters who look pretty dam good. They may not be as full as a full up bodybuilder but they're still carrying low bodyfat.
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Some guy who tries to hide his toothpick legs by never posting a full body or showing his legs AND waist talking shit about squats. ::)
his physique is lightyears ahead yours... why u even try srs
u are like ukjeff was to oth, the difference u have nothing ot back it up, yet u keep talking shit
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Your muscles don't know the difference between a round weight on a bar or a square one attached to a cable. They just contract.
Yes but your brain does and your brain controls the muscle. Your motor neurons might be better adapted to a barbell exercise versus the same in cable format. The motor neurons that are adapted release the neurotransmitter ACh which stimulates muscle contraction and it will be different for every movement and exercise, even if using the same amount of weight.
So I would say that the "muscles" in a sense, do know the difference.
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Your muscles don't know the difference between a round weight on a bar or a square one attached to a cable. They just contract.
not always been sure about this argument. but let's accept that when a muscle fires, it fires, simple as that. lifetime drug free trainers have to be discerning what exercises they use to compensate for the lack recuperation they have compared to drug users. exercises that recruit more muscle groups will obviously be more beneficial than exercises that recruit small muscles but still eat into the CNS.
I do agree that once you've built a decent amount of strength and mass you can do vastly different - and easier - exercises and maintain (or even gain) but my point holds: you won't find a legit lifetime natural with stellar strength and mass that just did cable curls and pressdowns , end of story.
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I disagree, heavy compound exercises are the only way a person not on drugs will ever build any substantial muscle mass.
The more muscle fibres you incorporate in the lift, the higher the subsequent rise in serum testosterone and growth hormone.
There are studies which show squats alone promote upper and lower body development due to neuroendocrine stimulation.
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sorry but this is hilarious
no one ever built any muscle naturally
only fat, bloat, and epic delusions
every natural who dieted down realized this fact of life
Anabol stop drinking !.
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I am with you galeniko and your logic is sound but I can not stop benches and deadlift simply because they are too ALPHA and are also DAM FUN TO DO. :-\ :-\
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sorry but this is hilarious
no one ever built any muscle naturally
only fat, bloat, and epic delusions
every natural who dieted down realized this fact of life
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a lot of guys drop them once they've got some size but they forget that the exercises were a big part of what built them the size. once you get on a pro drug stack you can walk around with a water jug half assing a machine curl and grow.
hey i was thinking about this again.
but when i train off everything,yes this happens, still dont do any one those, and size and strenght stay about the same, they dont detoriate into nothing.
im really not sure how deadlift gonna build the upper back any better than rows.
keep in mind off gear is worse than natural.
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I disagree, heavy compound exercises are the only way a person not on drugs will ever build any substantial muscle mass.
The more muscle fibres you incorporate in the lift, the higher the subsequent rise in serum testosterone and growth hormone.
There are studies which show squats alone promote upper and lower body development due to neuroendocrine stimulation.
hm.ok.
but how much muscle, shreded to bone vs shredded to bone.
or lets say 6% leans, how much will a natural who started really build anyway?
keep in mind nobody even starts at 6%.
the difference in pure muscle will be negligible.few lbs,if that.
sure if one uts on more bodyfat,he will be stronger, but he wont be more muscular.
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I am with you galeniko and your logic is sound but I can not stop benches and deadlift simply because they are too ALPHA and are also DAM FUN TO DO. :-\ :-\
yah it is, admitedly, im bit upset for no longer being able to bench heavy, well, not without risking dislocation of whole arm :-X
it feels godlike.oh well, i had my time, maybe better luck next life.ill even admit it makes the shoulder,tris and chest area somewhat thicker compared to medium weight high reps, but i stand by it, vastly overrated.
i know you had your little fractions with ukeff, but do we remember his chest routine?was rather a joke on paper,but he has a phenomenal chest
but squats and deads, for those i have no limitations, but when i do them heavy, the obliques get flexed so extremly hard, well, you know, i have to avoid any midsection growth to maintain the illusionary look :D
snatches i wont even go into, its a retard way of doing pullups, thenrisking a broken spine as we now know, followed by half rep shoulder press, this is not negotiable under any circumstances.
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and antoher thing, the basic one year multi compound training, do not confuse that with building size.
the bbuilding purpose is rather to build tendon and joint strenght, and some mass, in order to later on play around with medium weight and focus on muscle mind connection and letting the steroids do their work.
dont confuse building strenght base with building a body.
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and antoher thing, the basic one year multi compound training, do not confuse that with building size.
the bbuilding purpose is rather to build tendon and joint strenght, and some mass, in order to later on play around with medium weight and focus on muscle mind connection and letting the steroids do their work.
dont confuse building strenght base with building a body.
last 3 posts were spot on..time and place to be strong and ego lift for all gym to watch,gets old quick with hurt joints and tendons,,stick with pumping and throw in occassional heavy day to shake muscles up then cruise..
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hm.ok.
but how much muscle, shreded to bone vs shredded to bone.
or lets say 6% leans, how much will a natural who started really build anyway?
keep in mind nobody even starts at 6%.
the difference in pure muscle will be negligible.few lbs,if that.
sure if one uts on more bodyfat,he will be stronger, but he wont be more muscular.
You're right in that regard.
At 6% the amount of muscle a natural can build is negligible.
To look anything more than a skeleton at 6% without drugs is a hopeless task. But I've seen some folk look decent naturally at 10% or so.
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You're right in that regard.
At 6% the amount of muscle a natural can build is negligible.
To look anything more than a skeleton at 6% without drugs is a hopeless task. But I've seen some folk look decent naturally at 10% or so.
You are talking Bout guys with small joints who look good natural.
Trust me, with big joints yojnwont even look you lift with the shirt off.
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this is a revelation!
well if its true i will happily take the title "retard" as my whole training is built around these 3 lifts. if your form is tight and you build up weight and tendon/joint strength slowly i don't think there is any reason you should get injuries with these lifts, if your form is shite and your ego makes you rush adding weight to bar or you bench with your elbows flared out etc then probably will end up with long term injuries. but otherwise no reason for injuries.
back and leg day with no deadlifting/squats is too gay to contemplate thanks, regardless of how anyone looks.
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You have to make a deal - destroy your joints or your intestines or both...
wear and tear happens no matter how "strict" your training.
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i agree
nautilus machines are the best
I enjoy the 3 Powerlifts, but do agree they can and will wreak havoc on shoulders, knees, backs.
I also like Nautilius, my only issue with that is doing them for 100% of your workouts.
Mainly because you'd spend 100% of your workouts sitting on your ass.
I'd love to get an old school Nautilus pullover for my garage gym!
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for the natural, my two cents...
a leg training session without squat, only leg pressing/hack squat and curling = light muscle sore the day after so it's a proof you didn't work enough.
now just add 3 set of 10 of properly done squat to the leg press/curl session and the day after you can barelly walk.
the deadlift is one of the best mass and power builder.
the snatch grip deadlift is an unbelievable stuff for hams glute, spinal lat and traps, it involve a lot of perfect technique so it's good for coordination.
the bench press? no bench press = no general mass on the chest.
now if you"re running 1gr of tren just few set of pulldown and leg curl will build a decent mass.
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for the natural, my two cents...
a leg training session without squat, only leg pressing/hack squat and curling = light muscle sore the day after so it's a proof you didn't work enough.
now just add 3 set of 10 of properly done squat to the leg press/curl session and the day after you can barelly walk.
the deadlift is one of the best mass and power builder.
the snatch grip deadlift is an unbelievable stuff for hams glute, spinal lat and traps, it involve a lot of perfect technique so it's good for coordination.
the bench press? no bench press = no general mass on the chest.
now if you"re running 1gr of tren just few set of pulldown and leg curl will build a decent mass.
THIS^^^I GET WHAT UR SAYING,,IF I SQUAT I'M SORE FOR DAY TO 2 DAYS FOLLOWING...I LEG PRESS/LUNGE/EXTENSION/SOME FORM OF A SQUAT OR HACK VERSION,BUT BASIC SQUAT IS BRUTAL I GO HEAVY OR MED WEIGHT HI REP MED WGT 315/15-20 REPS HEAVY 405 X8
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everyone says if they done proeprly theyre safe.
i say they not needed and best avoided altogether if you want a good physique.
lets face it,its exercises for the fatties where they use straps kneebends and half rom to feel better about themselves(atleast im strong bro,whats your lift?)
can add benchpress to that, esp the powerlift type with more accesssoires-lifting gear than hollywood celebs wear for oscar nomination night,and bent their backs to an u and uses shortest rom possible to make it legal.
and snatchtes oh brother, its basicaly an upright row,then swing the weight and get under it followed by half rep shoulder pres.
why not be less a retard and do a set of upright row and keep the tension on muscle,followed by a proper set of shoulder press.
safe is a relative term, its relatively safe to jump from a 2 story building ::)
fuck the gurus who say those are somehow mandatory.and fuck the old school blabla.
if we were all so oldschool, wed still belive the earth is flat
that is all
disagree about squats and benchpress......others useless IMO
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disagree about squats and benchpress......others useless IMO
Did you build your physique with those?
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Did you build your physique with those?
No...but I enjoy those exercises
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No...but I enjoy those exercises
Same.
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Galienko speaking the truth as usual. Totally agree with everything he say's. Only exception would be maybe a total beginer or noob who can do those excercises for say 6 months to a year or something just to say they can bench 225 etc but after that there is no point.
Best Exercise that built up my chest = Dips + Heavy Incline Flye's
Best Exercise built up my legs: Bunny hops, jump squats, changeups interval sprints on incline + skipping.
Best Exercise for my biceps: Inverted chin ups
I could go on.
Galienko is right
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when you are natural you destroy your body without getting results (those that only you see and nobody else arent real)
therefor a natural should just run a few laps, do a few push ups pull ups once a week and call it a day
Exactamondo, or just take up MMA or some skilled based sport or cardio/endurance type activity
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Galienko speaking the truth as usual. Totally agree with everything he say's. Only exception would be maybe a total beginer or noob who can do those excercises for say 6 months to a year or something just to say they can bench 225 etc but after that there is no point.
Best Exercise that built up my chest = Dips + Heavy Incline Flye's
Best Exercise built up my legs: Bunny hops, jump squats, changeups interval sprints on incline + skipping.
Best Exercise for my biceps: Inverted chin ups
I could go on.
Galienko is right
DIPS AND INC FLYES ARE BEST ...
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mma is even worse it destroys every joint in your body and brain cells, fucks up your face and ears
No not true, only happens to exceptional fighters who actually get in cage and fight hardcore.
I mean in the gym you gonna be doing some light sparing maybe, you gonna wear head gear, shin guards, groin guards etc and you not exactly trying to kill each other.
I am talking more about regular guys training aspects that say true professional fighter.
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CalvinH bro science says,
When you first start lifting deads, squat,and bench should be mainstays.
when you get to the point where you're pretty much developed then you can start using more machines and cables.
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CalvinH bro science says,
When you first start lifting deads, squat,and bench should be mainstays.
when you get to the point where you're pretty much developed then you can start using more machines and cables.
HALLLEEELUIAHHH!!!CALVIN HAS CHIMED IN WORDS OF WISEDOM AND TRUTHS..Y BOARD HAS SPOKETH...
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everyone says if they done proeprly theyre safe.
i say they not needed and best avoided altogether if you want a good physique.
lets face it,its exercises for the fatties where they use straps kneebends and half rom to feel better about themselves(atleast im strong bro,whats your lift?)
can add benchpress to that, esp the powerlift type with more accesssoires-lifting gear than hollywood celebs wear for oscar nomination night,and bent their backs to an u and uses shortest rom possible to make it legal.
and snatchtes oh brother, its basicaly an upright row,then swing the weight and get under it followed by half rep shoulder pres.
why not be less a retard and do a set of upright row and keep the tension on muscle,followed by a proper set of shoulder press.
safe is a relative term, its relatively safe to jump from a 2 story building ::)
fuck the gurus who say those are somehow mandatory.and fuck the old school blabla.
if we were all so oldschool, wed still belive the earth is flat
that is all
Could we hear from someone who actually lifts weights?
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The training advice here is revolutionary...do bullshit exercise and drugs...get ripped...work out as natural..waste time and kill yourself.
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HALLLEEELUIAHHH!!!CALVIN HAS CHIMED IN WORDS OF WISEDOM AND TRUTHS..Y BOARD HAS SPOKETH...
:o ;D
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CalvinH bro science says,
When you first start lifting deads, squat,and bench should be mainstays.
when you get to the point where you're pretty much developed then you can start using more machines and cables.
I can't wait to lift with Calvin.
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I can't wait to lift with Calvin.
I still do those exercises but honestly not ever workout.
...when I was younger every time I did legs,chest,back I did.
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disagree about squats and benchpress......others useless IMO
they replaceable with legpress and flies imo.and some form of bench press, but the conventional flat olympic bar bench press is by far not the best chest builder
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You have to make a deal - destroy your joints or your intestines or both...
wear and tear happens no matter how "strict" your training.
good point, maybe always doing perfect form and rom and slow reps is even worse as far wear goes.
very good way of thinking
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they replaceable with legpress and flies imo.and some form of bench press, but the conventional flat olympic bar bench press is by far not the best chest builder
THIS^^^GIVES YOU GREAT FRONT DELTS FOR SOME.I NEVER LIKED THEM.
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Lol.
X2...
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Haven't actually seen anybody claim that the exercises listed are the greatest exercises of them all. All I've seen is people take issue with the claim that they are "useless" and "retard" exercises. this is bullshit and leakygyno is not the man to pronounce them all redundant. there are dudes that have taken a lot less drugs than him and are a lot bigger and are a shitload stronger than him from doing those exercises.
on the natural issue. if you are doing it the hard and truly virtuous way and relying on your body's own hormones to build you muscle -- instead of shooting up like a junkie x50 the hormones your own body could ever manufacture normally -- then you absolutely need to do the exercises that are proven to raise your hormone levels the most.
as I said, gym junky drug addicts can grow from pressing the button on the water fountain. hahaha ;D ;D ;D
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when you are natural you destroy your body without getting results (those that only you see and nobody else arent real)
yah, can hope to put on a damage reduced layer of fat anrant equal muscle size more or bloof over the little real muscle tht will be there and get away with looking like "10years construction work,bro"in clothes.
or be ripped and pretty small.
not saying naturals dont build nothing, just saying me personaly would only lift for cardio reasons, playing basketball or something will grant about equal size.
i dont see why the so jealousy and bitter.
theres tons of 250mg weely guys who follow somewhat good diet and look great year round.
they ust do it.
others are patient and wait decades for the natural boost to kick in.
i dont see why this is so hard to accept.
The training advice here is revolutionary...do bullshit exercise and drugs...get ripped...work out as natural..waste time and kill yourself.
thats harsh, i would just spend my time with other hobbies.
i mean,by all means, go ahead and deadlift and squat and bench natural until arms fall of and try to build a worthwhile(this is always relative)physique.
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Could we hear from someone who actually lifts weights?
oh realy, "Gaynero" do we ned to hear from ppl who lift weights?
construction workers lift weights all day.
you mother lifts dicks into her herpes-cave called mouth all day.
what do they have in common?they both fatsos.
me,id ask someone who looks great.
a crane lifts weights too, go ask a crane, you dumb knuckledrgaging mongoilod trailer trash crosseyed misscarriage
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galenike, you got excellent conditioning and a decent look going on but you aren't a big dude by any means. you need to take your clothes off to show people you lift.
no hating , just calling it as I see it.
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galenike, you got excellent conditioning and a decent look going on but you aren't a big dude by any means. you need to take your clothes off to show people you lift.
no hating , just calling it as I see it.
Why is that presented as a bad thing? I think that modern bb'ers in suits are the epitome of absurdity (Phil Heath being a notable exception). And don't even get me started on PL'ers in clothes, wit their XXXXXXL shirts and 20" necks.
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Why is that presented as a bad thing? I think that modern bb'ers in suits are the epitome of absurdity (Phil Heath being a notable exception). And don't even get me started on PL'ers in clothes, wit their XXXXXXL shirts and 20" necks.
it isn't. certainly, on a bbing boarding, it ain't exactly shameful to be big and strong or want to be big and strong and look like you lift, especially when in clothes. however if you're small and conditioned it's almost laughable to be telling guys that outsize you and outlift you that they did it all wrong.
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galenike, you got excellent conditioning and a decent look going on but you aren't a big dude by any means. you need to take your clothes off to show people you lift.
no hating , just calling it as I see it.
i can live with that.
world amateur champion hamdi doesnt look like he trains when clothed and shredded.
in general, bbuilders dont look very huge when shredded.i have seen right infront of me shawn rhoden.
didnt lok big.
i can gain 20-30lbs of bloof in 1 week if i want, and then what?will this make me bigger?
when youre ripped, all thats left is bones, bit inflated muscle and skin.
what is it with your fantasy or way of thought that you mst dwarf other men?i dont get that?
i dont care if someone looks bigger, clothed or not, i just try to get my bes tlook ans thats that.
hell, roseanne is probably bigger in clothes than i am.
if my bench strenght was 5 reps max with empty bar i wouldnt care at all
it isn't. certainly, on a bbing boarding, it ain't exactly shameful to be big and strong or want to be big and strong and look like you lift in clothes. however if you're small and conditioned it's almost laughable to be telling guys that outsize you and outlift you that they did it all wrong.
bbuilding has everything to do with conditioning,these days even the pros stay lean year round.
who here outsizes me,lets see the names.
by outsizing i mean stepping on stgae ripped.
lets see.
make sure to have pics of the guys in condition, thats the only way to tell how big one is.
fat is not size.
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Gal, talking about bbers not looking huge when shredded, I have a pic of one of my buds with Ohio heath wearing a tracksuit, all covered up. Heath looks like he never picked up a dumbbell.
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Gal, talking about bbers not looking huge when shredded, I have a pic of one of my buds with Ohio heath wearing a tracksuit, all covered up. Heath looks like he never picked up a dumbbell.
post it
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IN the end natural or drugged somebody or someone has the genetic scale tipped in a different direction than yourself or vice versa on your end better,and that's frame/structure/muscle insertions/shape/height and overall body mass /weight one attains genetically or built up upon.you can get 2 guys same height who lift natural and or drugged and the'll both look different in clothes and obvious out of clothes'no homo'THERE ARE SOME VERY IMPRESSIVE'NATURAL/CLEAN/DRUGGED BUILDS HERE PERIOD.and plenty strong guys as well.Galinecko using him as example has found his build type/condition/usage to a science for his look achieved.he gets it and moves on...
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Gayleanco is weak as a popcorn fart.
He's got abs though!
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oh realy, "Gaynero" do we ned to hear from ppl who lift weights?
construction workers lift weights all day.
you mother lifts dicks into her herpes-cave called mouth all day.
what do they have in common?they both fatsos.
me,id ask someone who looks great.
a crane lifts weights too, go ask a crane, you dumb knuckledrgaging mongoilod trailer trash crosseyed misscarriage
You failed at working out. Your body has betrayed you because you are not man enough. You're a bitch with a wrecked kidney and ruined shoulder. Fade away now loser.
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You failed at working out. Your body has betrayed you because you are not man enough. You're a bitch with a wrecked kidney and ruined shoulder. Fade away now loser.
hey winner,wheres your pic?
why are there none
you know ehy,i know why, everyone knows why.
now go choke on the sausage
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hey winner,wheres your pic?
why are there none
you know ehy,i know why, everyone knows why.
now go choke on the sausage
hahaha you're closet queer and a dead man walking with that failing kidney. Now fuck off and die.
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hahaha you're closet queer and a dead man walking with that failing kidney. Now fuck off and die.
i wish you all the best bro, be rolled over by a truck.
tuff guy, scared to post a pic.
btw,do you even lift?
joke question.
you dont.so what you doing here? ???
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i wish you all the best bro, be rolled over by a truck.
tuff guy, scared to post a pic.
btw,do you even lift?
joke question.
you dont.so what you doing here? ???
You're the gimp who can't lift. Go pick out a gravesite, your kidney is dying. Hahahaha