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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Ex Coelis on October 03, 2014, 05:35:55 PM
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got back from an extended "business trip" - straight into a quick diet to tighten-up
one meal a day, 1000 calories - you all know the story by now . . .
props to "the mighty no one" - prep coach, fashion advisor
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I think the lime green towel was a great choice in contrast to the swiss coffee white walls.
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The tattoo of a penis on your pec is a nice touch
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I think the lime green towel was a great choice in contrast to the swiss coffee white walls.
we thought so too
The tattoo of a penis on your pec is a nice touch
it makes my brutal mass ( oh brother ::) ) that much more intimidating
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we thought so too
it makes my brutal mass ( oh brother ::) ) that much more intimidating
Good to know. If I am considering anything lime green for the kitchen I will be sure to PM you.
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got back from an extended "business trip" - straight into a quick diet to tighten-up
one meal a day, 1000 calories - you all know the story by now . . .
props to "the mighty no one" - prep coach, fashion advisor
I am confused.. You looked better before?
I don't understand this No One none sense. Absolutely horrible diet and training ideas...
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I am confused.. You looked better before?
I don't understand this No One none sense. Absolutely horrible diet and training ideas...
I believe they are both "after" pics...
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You'll need to submit
cockitchen pics before judgement can be made.
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one meal a day, 1000 calories - you all know the story by now . . .
Reminds me of when I had the flu. What is the point of this? ???
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Question.
Do you wear the same outfit everyday or do you rotate your wardrobe every 10 days?
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I wouldn't be able to get my tiny shriveled cock up on 1000 calories a day
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I believe they are both "after" pics...
this
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got back from an extended "business trip" - straight into a quick diet to tighten-up
one meal a day, 1000 calories - you all know the story by now . . .
props to "the mighty no one" - prep coach, fashion advisor
Are you still in the Army? Do you up your calories/carbs when you've got hard phys?
I went low carbs last winter and found I kept crashing on long runs and tabs.
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Good condition, but how your body looked before?
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good work sir. 10 days. but the diet doesnt work. we need more proof!
fuck everyone wants to be sold a magic bean. lets not get off our lazy asses and try it - sell me on it. motivate me. make me a believer.
I ain't got time for that shit.
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I am confused.. You looked better before?
I don't understand this No One none sense. Absolutely horrible diet and training ideas...
if it was easy to 'understand ' it all would hsve been thought up a long time ago.
the reason your tiny brain is having difficultly comprehending my ideas is because there are pretty much the exact opposite of what we've all been taught to believe and what gets repeated in forums by people who refuse to believe there might just be something better.
just carry on doing what your doing.
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if it was easy to 'understand ' it all would hsve been thought up a long time ago.
the reason your tiny brain is having difficultly comprehending my ideas is because there are pretty much the exact opposite of what we've all been taught to believe and what gets repeated in forums by people who refuse to believe there might just be something better.
just carry on doing what your doing.
First off, your dieting ideas are horribly unsound and unhealthy. Secondly as the photo results show, you've managed to help emaciate this fellow. I will continue doing what I am doing as I am full, hard and sitting at near single digits while eating 2000-2500 calories a day. Plateaus can be broken with diligence. Not joining Camp Auschwitz. You truly are No One.
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fuck everyone wants to be sold a magic bean.
Not me. I would prefer it be given to me.
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First off, your dieting ideas are horribly unsound and unhealthy. Secondly as the photo results show, you've managed to help emaciate this fellow. I will continue doing what I am doing as I am full, hard and sitting at near single digits while eating 2000-2500 calories a day. Plateaus can be broken with diligence. Not joining Camp Auschwitz. You truly are No One.
'your ideas sound horribly unsound and unhealthy' lol fuck you sound like a bit of a mommas boy whos pretty invested in taking the time to expand and embolden the fact im a 'no one'. lol
you're the 'no one', pansy.
guys who weigh a buck 80 shouldnt use the words 'full' and 'hard'- your trying to sell yourself as some kind of massive beast when the truth of the matter is i'd wipe my feet on you if i was walking into the gym.
btw, fatboy, the fact your 'sitting near sngle digits' tells me your a skinny/ fat bitch whos 'dilligence' in their 2000-2500 cal diet isnt pay such rich dividends.
now, get off my nuts, flea.
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I'm curious to read no ones book
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hahaha 'horribly unsound and unhealthy'
what a dork. go back to bbing.com junior men are talking here.
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eat less carbs, and you ll get leaner, wow really rocket science.
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'your ideas sound horribly unsound and unhealthy' lol fuck you sound like a bit of a mommas boy whos pretty invested in taking the time to expand and embolden the fact im a 'no one'. lol
you're the 'no one', pansy.
guys who weigh a buck 80 shouldnt use the words 'full' and 'hard'- your trying to sell yourself as some kind of massive beast when the truth of the matter is i'd wipe my feet on you if i was walking into the gym.
btw, fatboy, the fact your 'sitting near sngle digits' tells me your a skinny/ fat bitch whos 'dilligence' in their 2000-2500 cal diet isnt pay such rich dividends.
now, get off my nuts, flea.
Your insecurity is quite obvious. I never implied I was a massive beast. You are trying to talk tough on an internet forum. In person you are just like your forum handle, No One. You wouldn't talk trash or even be impolite to me in person. I wouldn't stand for it, and unlike you, I have bite not bark.
Furthermore I am sitting at a comfortable 10%. My abs are all visible. I weigh in today at 189 lbs. I can diet down to single digits in weeks if necessary, without resorting to piss-poor dieting methods like you propose. You are almost as embarrassing as the reincarnation of GH15.
In all honesty, I hope you continue to publish these articles. It makes for an amusing read.
Try harder next time.
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Your insecurity is quite obvious. I never implied I was a massive beast. You are trying to talk tough on an internet forum. In person you are just like your forum handle, No One. You wouldn't talk trash or even be impolite to me in person. I wouldn't stand for it, and unlike you, I have bite not bark.
Furthermore I am sitting at a comfortable 10%. My abs are all visible. I weigh in today at 189 lbs. I can diet down to single digits in weeks if necessary, without resorting to piss-poor dieting methods like you propose. You are almost as embarrassing as the reincarnation of GH15.
In all honesty, I hope you continue to publish these articles. It makes for an amusing read.
Try harder next time.
translation: im a fat nancy who'd get slapped into next week by the mighty 'no one'
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translation: im a fat nancy who'd get slapped into next week by the mighty 'no one'
You are showing your mental weakness. Resorting to idle threats that you could never hope to fulfill, just like most of your life's ambitions - unfulfilled fantasies. By the way my picture is my avatar, I doubt anyone would consider me fat. Another swing and a miss.
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let's look at if like this, fatty. that pic in your avatar is your best ever since nobody posts their most average pics. and even at that your less than impressive, tiny tit. post a pic of your current condition muffin top so we can all have a good laugh.
if you are 189, which your not becuase people exaggerate their weight, and if you are 'around 10%' your prolly a little closer to 13-15% so lets look at this objectively.
to be a respectable 6 or so, by the time your done 'dieting' and lost the water the baby fat you have holds you'll be a WHOPPING 170ish lbs.
lol what are you going to do, bite my ankles?
beat it fat nancy- fat people shouldn't throw stones.
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let's look at if like this, fatty. that pic in your avatar is your best ever since nobody posts their most average pics. post a pic of your current condition muffin top so we can all have a good laugh.
if you are 189, which your not becuase people exaggerate their weight, and if you are 'around 10%' your prolly a little closer to 13-15% so lets look at this objectively.
to be a respectable 6 or so, by the time your done 'dieting' and lost the water the baby fat you have holds you'll be a WHOPPING 170ish lbs.
lol what are you going to do, bite my ankles?
beat it fat nancy- fat people shouldn't throw stones.
That is me today, yesterday, and tomorrow. It is a gym selfie. Not from when I've competed. So it definitely isn't my best photo. I do not follow crash dieting methods like you promote, so my body does not fluctuate dramatically in weight. At least I am capable of showing myself. All you have are vain attempts at seeming hard. You are mentally weak. You undoubtedly are the epitome of the "Boys who grew up without fathers..." spiel that gets posted on here frequently. You have swung and missed three times now - I consider you struck out. Go back to the dug out. You've got nothing but angst and failed aspirations.
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Furthermore I am sitting at a comfortable 10%.
LOL!
put the fork down
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here's a tip sparky- nobody cares what you follow. lol
it's almost unbelievable but with each successive post you manage to make yourself sound like more of a dork than the post before. lol fuck where do these guys come from.
anyway here are some things we've learned about the dork, fatnancy
- he's fat
- he's a tinytit
- he's a mommas boy
- considering the above he's prolly single and has been emasculated in every relationship he's ever been in whether it be by his boyfriend or girlfriend.
- thinks he's a MASSIVE RIPPED BEAST at 170lbs/ 15% bf who doesn't take kindly to disrespect- not online, not in person, not at the bathhouse church and wellsley.
keep posting, dork. I'm enjoying kicking you around the forum like a football.
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it's almost unbelievable but with each successive post you manage to make yourself sound like more of a dork than the post before. nobody cares what you 'follow', dork. lol fuck where do these guys come from.
anyway some things we've learned about fatnancy
- he's fat
- he's a tinytit
- he's a mommas boy
- considering the above he's prolly single and has been emasculated in every relationship he's ever been in whether it be by his boyfriend or girlfriend.
- thinks he's a MASSIVE RIPPED BEAST at 170lbs who doesn't take kindly to disrespect- not online, not in person, not at the bathhouse church and wellsley.
keep posting dork. I'm enjoying kick
You keep trying to talk tough. You've simply regurgitated the same stuff. In fact, you've actually taken my comments about you and tried to spin them back at me. How unimpressive. You lack originality. You lack good advice on nutrition or even how to lift weights. You simply are lacking... The only thing impressive is your post count... Maybe try actually going to the gym sometime?
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eat less carbs, and you ll get leaner, wow really rocket science.
what does eating less carbs have to do with gettng leaner?
apparently this is rocket science to you. lol
thanks for contributing.
next.
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Maybe try actually going to the gym sometime?
this. is. awesome. holy fuck. hahahaha a 170lb dork telling me to go to the gym more often. fucking priceless. :D
listen dork, when you come within, oh lets say 60 lean pounds of my bodyweight say 5-6% bf come and make suggestions on how i might better spend my time. until then go sit in the corner with your dork cap on and speak when spoken to, nancy.
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holy fuck. lets play spot the dork.
Hey folks,
I have run a 6 month Test-E cycle. Great results. Now it is time for me to cycle off. Should I stop cold turkey or taper off?
If anyone could provide me some advice, or a link to a thread which already discusses this and I'll be very appreciative.
Would something like this be suitable?
Simple cruise
300mg TE weekly
500iu HCG twice per week
1mg Arimidex on Mon, Wed, Fri
After the cruise go into PCT. 6 Weeks for cruise. Last 2 weeks at 1000iu twice per week? Then Clomid?
Stay strong my fellow brothers in iron!
Cheers,
Much appreciated. I'm amped to post my photo results soon. Went from 180 to 215 and now cutting down to 200.
Hey folks,
I am going looking to shed approximately 20 pounds by August. Currently I am 210, approx. 15% body fat (can see abs). I just had shoulder surgery, so I cannot workout for 6-8 weeks, although I can do cardio. I'm open to any input.
Meal 1:
Whole Eggs (4)
Black Diamond Mozzarella Cheese (30g)
Organic Coconut Oil (1 Tbsp.)
Life Smooth Texture Fiber (1 Tbsp.)
Calories 580.00, Fat: 42.00, Carbs: 22.40, Fiber: 10.20, Protein: 32.00
Meal 2:
Selection Quarter Pound Beef Burger (2)
Arctic Gardens San Fran Vegetables (85g)
Calories: 485, Fat: 32, Carbs: 11, Fiber: 6, Protein: 38
Meal 3:
Chicken Breast (125g)
Selection Light Caesar Dressing (45ml)
Dole Spring Mix (72g)
Almonds (25g)
Calories: 480, Fat: 24.01, Carbs: 16.50, Fiber: 5.50, Protein: 48.22
Meal 4:
Sirloin Tip Roast (200g)
Arctic Gardens San Fran Vegetables (85g)
Almonds (25g)
Life Smooth Texture Fiber (1 Tbsp.)
Calories: 615, Fat: 30.21, Carbs: 26.90, Fiber: 15.70, Protein: 60.91
Daily Totals - Calories: 2177.62, Fat: 128.21g, Carbs: 76.80g (Net Carbs: 39.40g), Fiber: 37.40g, Protein: 179.13g
Prior to my shoulder surgery, based upon my activity level I had a maintenance caloric intake of 3100. However as I won't be working out whatsoever, I'm not sure how dramatically I should adjust my maintenance level. I imagine that 2700ish would probably be my new maintenance level, given that I will still do daily cardio. If anyone feels it should be different (or my calories lowered/adjusted) please input!
The burgers for Meal 2 are an inexpensive alternative to making my own, and money is a bit tight due to my shoulder surgery prohibiting me from working for a while.
Thanks folks.
Cheers.
why does all the science say that using synthetic testosterone not only replaces the product of the body's own test but also is supposed to be a contraceptive, as your body doesn't produce semen, only cum due to the body itself not producing test?
lol you cant buy entertainment like this.
nice work, sparky.
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this. is. awesome. holy fuck. hahahaha a 170lb dork telling me to go to the gym more often. fucking priceless. :D
listen dork, when you come within, oh lets say 60 lean pounds of my bodyweight say 5-6% bf come and make suggestions on how i might better spend my time. until then go sit in the corner with your dork cap on and speak when spoken to, nancy.
You are about as imposing as your typing ability. You take a stand and fight online - as if you had a backbone in person to keep you standing straight. Let me set you straight once and for all... You have proven to be mentally weak, incapable of arriving at an original comeback, unable to offer any useful insights into dieting and nutrition, and most assuredly are sitting alone in a crumby bachelor apartment - forever alone - as you banter online. Subconsciously there was a reason you opted for "No One" as your username. It is so befitting to who you are in this world. A nobody.
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Why would I be ashamed of asking questions? I am here to learn. Just not from useless posers like you. My diet was amended and I'm quite comfortable with it. Nothing has changed from my earlier statements.
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hahahah holy fuck are you on drugs?
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got back from an extended "business trip" - straight into a quick diet to tighten-up
one meal a day, 1000 calories - you all know the story by now . . .
props to "the mighty no one" - prep coach, fashion advisor
All visual signals and hints in this picture (i.e. lime green towel and accents in bathroom, tats, clothing, etc.) indicate OP to be a homosexual.
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Why would I be ashamed of asking questions? I am here to learn. Just not from useless posers like you. My diet was amended and I'm quite comfortable with it. Nothing has changed from my earlier statements.
let me ask you a question, dork.
are you gay? when i read your posts you 'sound' like a very effeminate angry gay male.
it doesnt matter either way to me. you just sound like you're gay. and high.
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I have seen Luimarco, a Lifetime Natural, age 40, diet on 1260 calories for just a few weeks and get super fast results. He also trains 3-4 days a week only.
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let me ask you a question, dork.
are you gay? when i read your posts you 'sound' like a very effeminate angry gay male.
it doesnt matter either way to me. you just sound like you're gay. and high.
You are really grasping at straws here. No, I am not gay. Why would I be angry? You have been the one on the defensive the entire time. You've spent time scrounging through my post history in a vain attempt to insult me. You have proven thoroughly that you are weak-willed and easily instigated to the point of a meltdown. 11,000+ posts since 2005. 300+ posts since 2004. I wonder who really spends more time working out?
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who trains more? well if appearance is any indicator it isn't you, sparky. you couldn't hold my gym bag.
and I don't need to spend time insulting you, nancy- you do a fine enough job embarrassing yourself w evey successive post. lol
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who trains more? well if appearance is any indicator it isn't you, sparky. you couldn't hold my gym bag.
and I don't need to spend time insulting you, nancy- you do a fine enough job embarrassing yourself w evey successive post. lol
Keep talking a big game that you can't deliver. Yet to see your current photo.
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I have seen Luimarco, a Lifetime Natural, age 40, diet on 1260 calories for just a few weeks and get super fast results. He also trains 3-4 days a week only.
ya man. there's no reason the average trainer can't get in enough protein around the 1k-1200cal mark to lose fat and keep tissue. on ultra low cal diets energy is often higher than on the 2k-2500 cal diets guys like fatnancy use who weigh 170 lbs ahd wonder why they are still fat after 12 weeks of 'dieting'
get in bear down get it done. no respectable bber should be more than 4-6 weeks away from 5-6% at anytime.
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so 'eulogy' our new resident dork posts his 'diet' on april 27th consisting of 2500cals a day - what the fuck anyone who weighs 180 needs 2500 cals is beyond me- anyway I digress.
at the time you weighed what, dlido? 210 at 15%? today, 5 MONTHS LATER you weigh 187 at 10%.
10 pounds of water, 13 lbs of fat lost in 5 MONTHS. spectacular. and your still fat.
lol Jesus Christ.
keep up the good work, dildo.
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are you guys basing total calories needed on total body weight or only LBM? thanks
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so 'eulogy' our new resident dork posts his 'diet' on april 27th consisting of 2500cals a day - what the fuck anyone who weighs 180 needs 2500 cals is beyond me- anyway I digress.
at the time you weighed what, dlido? 210 at 15%? today, 5 MONTHS LATER you weigh 187 at 10%.
10 pounds of water, 13 lbs of fat lost in 5 MONTHS. spectacular. and your still fat.
lol Jesus Christ.
keep up the good work, dildo.
You neglected the part (which you copied earlier and obviously read) about my having major shoulder surgery. Resulting in an extended period of no exercising and simply focused on recovery. I must have really hit a cord with you. You have been on a defensive meltdown all morning. You keep compounding the fact that you have no life (as evidenced by how much you are actively researching my post history), you obviously take immense pride in your online persona and try to demand respect from others. You lash out at everyone - you are angry, resentful - in reality, you are just weak and hurt, so you vent. I understand simpletons like you, as I deal with them daily. By the way at this point I am done with you. You are dismissed, just like the nobody you are.
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You neglected the part (which you copied earlier and obviously read) about my having major shoulder surgery. Resulting in an extended period of no exercising and simply focused on recovery. I must have really hit a cord with you. You have been on a defensive meltdown all morning. You keep compounding the fact that you have no life (as evidenced by how much you are actively researching my post history), you obviously take immense pride in your online persona and try to demand respect from others. You lash out at everyone - you are angry, resentful - in reality, you are just weak and hurt, so you vent. I understand simpletons like you, as I deal with them daily. By the way at this point I am done with you. You are dismissed, just like the nobody you are.
well sunshine, if you weren't eating like a pig your shoulder surgery wouldn't have hindered your fat loss one but, fatty.
shall I go on busting you up and showcasing your diminutive lack of knowledge?
instead of arguing with me and being made to look like an autistic 5 year old you'd be further ahead to close your mouth and pay attention. you might learn something.
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are you guys basing total calories needed on total body weight or only LBM? thanks
base you cals on lean tissue . why would you want to feed fat? that's what most people do ahd wonder why they don't make progress or it's slow at best.
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got back from an extended "business trip" - straight into a quick diet to tighten-up
one meal a day, 1000 calories - you all know the story by now . . .
props to "the mighty no one" - prep coach, fashion advisor
WTF??
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"Eulogy" needs to really be careful.
Taking too big of a bite of Mighty No One could yield a very "dead in the water" "eulogy".
Based on his avi he is just an everyday gym rat, reading Layne Norton's misinformation and hopped up on a little gear.
The proof is in the pudding ladies, No One is one of the best built guys here, I tend to listen to him.
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"Eulogy" needs to really be careful.
Taking too big of a bite of Mighty No One could yield a very "dead in the water" "eulogy".
Based on his avi he is just an everyday gym rat, reading Layne Norton's misinformation and hopped up on a little gear.
The proof is in the pudding ladies, No One is one of the best built guys here, I tend to listen to him.
I am glad the White Knights have come out in your defense, nobody. Rats tend to stick in packs.
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Lose fat = BW x 10 or 9 Ex; 210lbs = 2100kcal or 1890kcals. Now do some research and break down into macros.
Losing BW is easy. Anyone can drop water, muscle and fat.
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Anyone who references a calorie as a "kcal" must be an authentic expert in their field.
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Anyone who references a calorie as a "kcal" must be an authentic expert in their field.
Yep.
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so 'eulogy' our new resident dork posts his 'diet' on april 27th consisting of 2500cals a day - what the fuck anyone who weighs 180 needs 2500 cals is beyond me- anyway I digress.
at the time you weighed what, dlido? 210 at 15%? today, 5 MONTHS LATER you weigh 187 at 10%.
10 pounds of water, 13 lbs of fat lost in 5 MONTHS. spectacular. and your still fat.
lol Jesus Christ.
keep up the good work, dildo.
I can lean down to single digits on 2400 also. I have seen lifetime naturals lean down to single digits at 3000 calories plus as well. I think both low calorie and high calorie approaches work.
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I waiting for the legendary guru cleanestnatural's take on the situation.
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I am glad the White Knights have come out in your defense, nobody. Rats tend to stick in packs.
MELTDOWN.
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Lose fat = BW x 10 or 9 Ex; 210lbs = 2100kcal or 1890kcals. Now do some research and break down into macros.
Losing BW is easy. Anyone can drop water, muscle and fat.
agreed with the second statement.
will respectuflly rebuttal the first.
why would you feed fat? all you need are enough cals to preserve and/or create an enviroment where the tissue can repair/ grow, and enough cals to provide the energy to train.
weve all been down this road before, and we all have differing ideologies. 'euology' represents what happens when you diet by the '10x bodyweight' rule- overeating and 5 months of inefficient dieting to lose 11lbs of bf. thats what the 10x bodyweight rule gets you.
like TA says in his above post, all roads lead to rome- you can chose to get there in a horse and buggy or a jet.
im not about making a career of either dieting, building tissue, or developing a highly functional, highly efficient musculature. my ideas work, they get the results i say they do and they do it quickly.
there is nothing new under the sun. what there are is better, faster, more efficient ways of doing things. thats what i like and thats what i strive for and thats what i pass on to others who might be interested in the same- much like EC is- 10 days in the system and shredded.
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"Eulogy" needs to really be careful.
Taking too big of a bite of Mighty No One could yield a very "dead in the water" "eulogy".
Based on his avi he is just an everyday gym rat, reading Layne Norton's misinformation and hopped up on a little gear.
The proof is in the pudding ladies, No One is one of the best built guys here, I tend to listen to him.
'eulogy'- another internet know it all whos 'physique' doesnt quite measure up- is an idiot who shold be ignored unless its to made an example of or mocked and ridiculed.
what he needs to do is realise all the excuses in the world about his shoulder and blah blah blah isnt going to get his fat off- not stuffing his face w cals he doesnt need will.
take note to this post other prospective and present fatties reading this.
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The "you couldn't hold my gym bag" line always cracks me up. Boasting about how well you workout. Lol. Could you imagine anybody in MLB, NFL, etc., saying something that classless and retarded? And even if they did, Richard Sherman-style, at least they'd actually have something to boast about.
'hold my gym bag' means look as good as.
i could give a fuck how well someone works out. who even thinks like that anyway, other than a homo like you.
try to follow along, nancy, and save yourself some embarassment in the future.
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This girl eats 1800 calories to 2500, does only 2-3 days weight training in the gym and no cardio.
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/192514_496563383697636_310515908_o.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3iam9NY2N1qlbnppo1_1280.jpg)
1800-2000 calories on off-days and up to 2500 calories on training-days. I needed some time to get my metabolism fast, but now I feel fine with keeping my bodyfat and eat lots of calories (in my dimensions).
What is your current routine?
One day is based on Squats, the other on Deadlifts, the rest varies, but I rely strongly on basic movements and 2-3 intense sessions per week. No cardio.
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agreed with the second statement.
will respectuflly rebuttal the first.
why would you feed fat? all you need are enough cals to preserve and/or create an enviroment where the tissue can repair/ grow, and enough cals to provide the energy to train.
weve all been down this road before, and we all have differing ideologies. 'euology' represents what happens when you diet by the '10x bodyweight' rule- overeating and 5 months of inefficient dieting to lose 11lbs of bf. thats what the 10x bodyweight rule gets you.
like TA says in his above post, all roads lead to rome- you can chose to get there in a horse and buggy or a jet.
im not about making a career of either dieting, building tissue, or developing a highly functional, highly efficient musculature. my ideas work, they get the results i say they do and they do it quickly.
there is nothing new under the sun. what there are is better, faster, more efficient ways of doing things. thats what i like and thats what i strive for and thats what i pass on to others who might be interested in the same- much like EC is- 10 days in the system and shredded.
Agreed.
I also think for people who have gained a little bit of fat, using the jet for a few weeks and then switching to the buggy and adding a few horses is a good approach.
What I mean is its not a bad idea to go low calorie, get the level of leanness you want, then increase the calories to as high as possible without fat gain.
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And you don`t have a fucking clue what you are talking about.
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Really? You think her tits are real?
And shouldn't you be in temple today?
I was referring to her training. She trains very hard actually. Look at the vids on her channel.
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'eulogy'- another internet know it all whos 'physique' doesnt quite measure up- is an idiot who shold be ignored unless its to made an example of or mocked and ridiculed.
what he needs to do is realise all the excuses in the world about his shoulder and blah blah blah isnt going to get his fat off- not stuffing his face w cals he doesnt need will.
take note to this post other prospective and present fatties reading this.
I never made an excuse. You tried to discredit me by showing posts where I had differing weights, pre and post surgery. I explained WHY my weight fluctuated during those times. I am quite comfortable at my current weight and body fat. I never once stated I'm having issues with achieving my goals. Quite the contrary, I stated clearly that I thought your proposed idea of crash dieting on 1000 calories per day is nonsense, unhealthy and the least productive way to get to and maintain whatever weight you want.
Edited: I never said I knew it all either, as evidenced by you copying my questions from the Nutrition and Steroid boards. I simply disagree with your methodology. You take it as a personal attack, which is fine, as you have nothing but the 'fame' of GetBig to cling to.
You are an incredibly sad individual.
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Doesn't it make you feel better about your real life meaninglessly insulting people on the internet?
yes. thanks for noticing.
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You are an incredibly sad individual.
thank you.
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This girl eats 1800 calories to 2500, does only 2-3 days weight training in the gym and no cardio.
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1800-2000 calories on off-days and up to 2500 calories on training-days. I needed some time to get my metabolism fast, but now I feel fine with keeping my bodyfat and eat lots of calories (in my dimensions).
What is your current routine?
One day is based on Squats, the other on Deadlifts, the rest varies, but I rely strongly on basic movements and 2-3 intense sessions per week. No cardio.
Most anorexic people claim they eat a lot, its a symptom of the condition.
You have no idea what she eats, only she does.
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Most anorexic people claim they eat a lot, its a symptom of the condition.
You have no idea what she eats, only she does.
Well she does go through the trouble and posts her meals daily on myfitnesspal, so there is that. I doubt she would go through the trouble of making it up day in and day out just to fool everyone.
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One meal a day of a 1000 calories? :o
"Wasting Away in Margaritaville...."
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Well she does go through the trouble and posts her meals daily on myfitnesspal, so there is that. I doubt she would go through the trouble of making it up day in and day out just to fool everyone.
She may well purge afterwards.
Pretty sure she wont be posting that.
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She may well purge afterwards.
Pretty sure she wont be posting that.
Totally unlikely. She wouldn`t want to go go catabolic.
So should we assume that everyone who eats food purges? ???
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Totally unlikely. She wouldn`t want to go go catabolic.
So should we assume that everyone who eats food purges? ???
No, just the ones who you see eating a lot but look like concentration camp victims.
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the fuck?
calorie restriction, as long as proper nutrition is maintained, is COMPLETELY healthy and provides more benefit to the body than any other form of dieting, especially in combination with intermittent fasting. it is the MOST productive way to get to and maintain whatever weight you want.
I noticed the same exact results doing intermittent fasting and not doing it, but using the same calories. I saw no difference or changes. Calories are king!
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No, just the ones who you see eating a lot but look like concentration camp victims.
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So any female who has muscle and is lean is bulimic?
Why would you think that? Have you any experience living with a woman who likes to work out and keep calories in check?
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Why not eat 900 kcal instead of 1000 kcal, it would be even more effective! :o
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So any female who has muscle and is lean is bulimic?
Why would you think that? Have you any experience living with a woman who likes to work out and keep calories in check?
I didnt say that.
Pssst...Im not some rookie with 200 posts. ;D
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Agreed.
I also think for people who have gained a little bit of fat, using the jet for a few weeks and then switching to the buggy and adding a few horses is a good approach.
What I mean is its not a bad idea to go low calorie, get the level of leanness you want, then increase the calories to as high as possible without fat gain.
100%. that's the beauty of ultra low cal dieting. get in get it done get shredded and then enjoy life. pizza coronas wings and burgers.
cause once you get to a true 5-6% you really have to be eating like a glutton I mean off the rails pure gluttony for weeks on end before you need to diet again. there's no reason you can't hold respectable condition, eat whatever you want for weeks to months on end, jump back on the system and shred down in 4 weeks again if need be.
who wants to spend multiple months dieting. lol not this kid. I got coronas to drink.
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100%. that's the beauty of ultra low cal dieting. get in get it done get shredded and then enjoy life. pizza coronas wings and burgers.
cause once you get to a true 5-6% you really have to be eating like a glutton I mean off the rails pure gluttony for weeks on end before you need to diet again. there's no reason you can't hold respectable condition, eat whatever you want for weeks to months on end, jump back on the system and shred down in 4 weeks again if need be.
who wants to spend multiple months dieting. lol not this kid. I got coronas to drink.
I also think people are overly frightened of the whole "I am going to lose muscle" on low calories. Its very difficult to do lose muscle if you are weight training consistently even at low calories.
Even if you did lose muscle (which you probably won`t), you will gain whatever you lost once you adjust back up a bit in calories.
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Most anorexic people claim they eat a lot, its a symptom of the condition.
You have no idea what she eats, only she does.
Agree 100%, Adonis you know better, you revisited this when you rebuked, Morgan Spurlock's "Super size me" movie. Sure he (Spurlock) presumably ate all his meals on film, but the guy never released a true meal log; the girl on the video just did the opposite. To me, this individual is just wanting attention and trying to get famous.- just my view
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I never made an excuse. You tried to discredit me by showing posts where I had differing weights, pre and post surgery. I explained WHY my weight fluctuated during those times. I am quite comfortable at my current weight and body fat. I never once stated I'm having issues with achieving my goals. Quite the contrary, I stated clearly that I thought your proposed idea of crash dieting on 1000 calories per day is nonsense, unhealthy and the least productive way to get to and maintain whatever weight you want.
Edited: I never said I knew it all either, as evidenced by you copying my questions from the Nutrition and Steroid boards. I simply disagree with your methodology. You take it as a personal attack, which is fine, as you have nothing but the 'fame' of GetBig to cling to.
You are an incredibly sad individual.
Haha. TL;DR.
Essentially.....
You don't know your twat from a hole in your ass.
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good work sir. 10 days. but the diet doesnt work. we need more proof!
fuck everyone wants to be sold a magic bean. lets not get off our lazy asses and try it - sell me on it. motivate me. make me a believer.
I ain't got time for that shit.
your training program is also a magic bean
there is no system
there is only traing diet and drugs
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You get fat via a caloric surplus.
You lose fat via a calorie deficit.
The bigger the deficit, the greater the fat loss.
No One and Gal's diet works because it's logically sound.
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any no one meal daily meal plan examples??
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100%. that's the beauty of ultra low cal dieting. get in get it done get shredded and then enjoy life. pizza coronas wings and burgers.
cause once you get to a true 5-6% you really have to be eating like a glutton I mean off the rails pure gluttony for weeks on end before you need to diet again. there's no reason you can't hold respectable condition, eat whatever you want for weeks to months on end, jump back on the system and shred down in 4 weeks again if need be.
who wants to spend multiple months dieting. lol not this kid. I got coronas to drink.
there are much nicer beers, maybe not in the states.
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there are much nicer beers, maybe not in the states.
We have access to all your beers + more. Its America for gods sake. (Canada included).
Corona is good beer, anywhere.
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Corona is only nice when very cold so you cant tell its piss water, same with
gay coors light!
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agreed with the second statement.
will respectuflly rebuttal the first.
why would you feed fat? all you need are enough cals to preserve and/or create an enviroment where the tissue can repair/ grow, and enough cals to provide the energy to train.
weve all been down this road before, and we all have differing ideologies. 'euology' represents what happens when you diet by the '10x bodyweight' rule- overeating and 5 months of inefficient dieting to lose 11lbs of bf. thats what the 10x bodyweight rule gets you.
like TA says in his above post, all roads lead to rome- you can chose to get there in a horse and buggy or a jet.
im not about making a career of either dieting, building tissue, or developing a highly functional, highly efficient musculature. my ideas work, they get the results i say they do and they do it quickly.
there is nothing new under the sun. what there are is better, faster, more efficient ways of doing things. thats what i like and thats what i strive for and thats what i pass on to others who might be interested in the same- much like EC is- 10 days in the system and shredded.
Again, it comes down to breaking down the calories into macros and not just calories as a whole. It's also depends on what the activity is. In this case (fat) I would adjust the macros high protein, lower carbs (not zero) and higher fat. If it were an athlete trying to lose weight, Higher carbs, med protein, lower in fat. Macros are always adjusted with activity. I would never go low carb, low fat except in the case of bodybuilding. Those are just some examples.
What foods are you going to choose? Absorption? Digestion, nutrient dense? What's the timing going to be? What micros will cancel out one another?
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your proposed idea of crash dieting on 1000 calories per day is nonsense, unhealthy and the least productive way to get to and maintain whatever weight you want.
"proposed" ::)
this isn't some hypothetical diet in the R&D stages
this is tested and proven - cock solid fact
do it or don't
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there are much nicer beers, maybe not in the states.
oh my friend. when it's 28* and sunny nothing is better than an ice cold corona w lemon. drink those like water.
a month ago I walked into the restaurant / pub where I have my cheat day and the server already is in the cooler pulling a corona out of it before I sit down. she opens it up puts a lemon wedge in it sets it in front of me and says 'nachos' w a big grin.
predictable much? funny thing is I only ever remember having her for a server once before.
I'm going to fuck her up one day and order a Guinness.
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Again, it comes down to breaking down the calories into macros and not just calories as a whole. It's also depends on what the activity is. In this case (fat) I would adjust the macros high protein, lower carbs (not zero) and higher fat. If it were an athlete trying to lose weight, Higher carbs, med protein, lower in fat. Macros are always adjusted with activity. I would never go low carb, low fat except in the case of bodybuilding. Those are just some examples.
What foods are you going to choose? Absorption? Digestion, nutrient dense? What's the timing going to be? What micros will cancel out one another?
If god wanted me to have muscles, he would have just given them to me from the start. Fuck all this working out nonsense.
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If god wanted me to have muscles, he would have just given them to me from the start. Fuck all this working out nonsense.
Looks like you're SOL all the way around.
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Looks like you're SOL all the way around.
Unless I.......(fill in the blank)
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Again, it comes down to breaking down the calories into macros and not just calories as a whole. It's also depends on what the activity is. In this case (fat) I would adjust the macros high protein, lower carbs (not zero) and higher fat. If it were an athlete trying to lose weight, Higher carbs, med protein, lower in fat. Macros are always adjusted with activity. I would never go low carb, low fat except in the case of bodybuilding. Those are just some examples.
What foods are you going to choose? Absorption? Digestion, nutrient dense? What's the timing going to be? What micros will cancel out one another?
I agree w this esp your take on the 'nutritional' function of the cal vs the activity level/ demands of the athlete, something I've been paying very close attention to as of late.
but it kind of goes to reinforce my stance - you don't need high cals to get sufficient nutrients based on your activity level. as strictly a sedentary bber (aren't they all) you can pack a lot of density in 1000-1200 cal and in the case of bigger guys like myself up to 1500 some days which this type of diet is geared towards given the forum we are on. bbers imo grossly overeat when either dieting or gaining. most don't have the physical demands to require the cals they are taking in. I've proven I myself and others eliminating cals gives faster more efficient results w the same ability to perform 'work'.
if we were on a different forum I'd have markedly different ideas on cal intakes, esp given my own activity level which has a very high caloric demand at times.
I'm still trying to figure that ideal cal imput out for myself. it took me 20 years to figure out the bbing end of it. I don't have 20 years to figure out my athletic demands end of it. :D
I'm experimenting a ketogenic diet and prolonged HIT cardio and training. I went hypo today after 3 days w no carbs and very moderate activity. I was hoping keto could offer a virtually limitless fuel source (body fat combined w how fast some fats are metabolized for fuel) when I'm pushing myself cardio wise but it seems that keto and HIT cardio might not work out. it's frustrating- spend 3 days getting into keto then go hypo w out even pushing the throttle, so I need to eat carbs kick myself out ahd go thru the lag again and hope I don't go hypo until I'm 100% functioning keto?
I know conventional wisdom says 'carbs' for endurance athletes. but I'm not big on conventionality as you can tell from my ideologies. I just want to see if it's 100% necessary and the most efficient fuel source but fuck if I can get in and stay in that problematic in and of itself.
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"proposed" ::)
this isn't some hypothetical diet in the R&D stages
this is tested and proven - cock solid fact
do it or don't
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"proposed" ::)
this isn't some hypothetical diet in the R&D stages
this is tested and proven - cock solid fact
do it or don't
BOOM!
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eat less carbs, and you ll get leaner, wow really rocket science.
not really that simple...
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this "Euterpe" fella knows his stuff
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"Several people have claimed that metabolic adaptation only accounts for a 15% change in metabolic rate and that you should just go back to your pre-diet maintenance post diet. A study by Dr. Jeremy Loenneke Dr. Lindy Rossow and Dr. Chris Fahs demonstrated a reduction in metabolic rate from 2424 kcal/day to 1283 kcal/day during contest prep in a bodybuilder who's intake was well monitored and had regular assessments done. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23412685
Finally, if metabolic adaptation of metabolic rate is not significant, then increasing calories back to pre diet maintenance will not result in significant weight gain... good luck with that."
In other words: unless you're on good stack of drugs and you are arleady lean GL with this diet.
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"Several people have claimed that metabolic adaptation only accounts for a 15% change in metabolic rate and that you should just go back to your pre-diet maintenance post diet. A study by Dr. Jeremy Loenneke Dr. Lindy Rossow and Dr. Chris Fahs demonstrated a reduction in metabolic rate from 2424 kcal/day to 1283 kcal/day during contest prep in a bodybuilder who's intake was well monitored and had regular assessments done. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23412685
Finally, if metabolic adaptation of metabolic rate is not significant, then increasing calories back to pre diet maintenance will not result in significant weight gain... good luck with that."
In other words: unless you're on good stack of drugs and you are arleady lean GL with this diet.
I diet on 1200 cals, I eat around 2500 to 3000 cals normally and I dont get fat.
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I diet on 1200 cals, I eat around 2500 to 3000 cals normally and I dont get fat.
he said "unless you are on a good stack of drugs" bro
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"Several people have claimed that metabolic adaptation only accounts for a 15% change in metabolic rate and that you should just go back to your pre-diet maintenance post diet. A study by Dr. Jeremy Loenneke Dr. Lindy Rossow and Dr. Chris Fahs demonstrated a reduction in metabolic rate from 2424 kcal/day to 1283 kcal/day during contest prep in a bodybuilder who's intake was well monitored and had regular assessments done. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23412685
Finally, if metabolic adaptation of metabolic rate is not significant, then increasing calories back to pre diet maintenance will not result in significant weight gain... good luck with that."
In other words: unless you're on good stack of drugs and you are arleady lean GL with this diet.
have you tried the diet? no you haven't.
have you tried the routine? no you haven't.
you come along w bullshit negativity in every thread I start that tries to help people offering your opinion based on studies, not experience.
whereas everyone who's done the diet says it works exactly as it's purported to.
so in short fuck off with your studies and provide some real world feedback regarding your own personal experience w the diet gal and I outlined or shut the fuck up.
'it won't work' hahaha jokes on you pansy. feel fee to slog thru unnecessary high cal diets if that's what floats your boat. some of us don't have time for that shit. bit don't come here and give me it can't/ won't/ doesht work when you don't have the first fucking clue abt what your talking about, numpty.
Simon was one of the biggest critics of my diet when it first appeared- fuck he and I went back and forth for 70 pages and he realised after trying it the impossible was possible. you saw the thread. the difference between you and him is your too ignorant to open your eyes and instead blind yourself w 'science' and chirp like an Internet expert abt how it doesn't work. lol
I guess everyone who's doing it is wrong and your right, eh sparky?
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"Several people have claimed that metabolic adaptation only accounts for a 15% change in metabolic rate and that you should just go back to your pre-diet maintenance post diet. A study by Dr. Jeremy Loenneke Dr. Lindy Rossow and Dr. Chris Fahs demonstrated a reduction in metabolic rate from 2424 kcal/day to 1283 kcal/day during contest prep in a bodybuilder who's intake was well monitored and had regular assessments done. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23412685
Finally, if metabolic adaptation of metabolic rate is not significant, then increasing calories back to pre diet maintenance will not result in significant weight gain... good luck with that."
Not having specifically looked them up but aren't there studies that show the opposite or where would the 15% number come from?
Also the guy was on a diet for 6 months correct (cant read the whole study)? If that is correct then that is a looong time to be dieting and could contribute as well.
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I agree w this esp your take on the 'nutritional' function of the cal vs the activity level/ demands of the athlete, something I've been paying very close attention to as of late.
but it kind of goes to reinforce my stance - you don't need high cals to get sufficient nutrients based on your activity level. as strictly a sedentary bber (aren't they all) you can pack a lot of density in 1000-1200 cal and in the case of bigger guys like myself up to 1500 some days which this type of diet is geared towards given the forum we are on. bbers imo grossly overeat when either dieting or gaining. most don't have the physical demands to require the cals they are taking in. I've proven I myself and others eliminating cals gives faster more efficient results w the same ability to perform 'work'.
if we were on a different forum I'd have markedly different ideas on cal intakes, esp given my own activity level which has a very high caloric demand at times.
I'm still trying to figure that ideal cal imput out for myself. it took me 20 years to figure out the bbing end of it. I don't have 20 years to figure out my athletic demands end of it. :D
I'm experimenting a ketogenic diet and prolonged HIT cardio and training. I went hypo today after 3 days w no carbs and very moderate activity. I was hoping keto could offer a virtually limitless fuel source (body fat combined w how fast some fats are metabolized for fuel) when I'm pushing myself cardio wise but it seems that keto and HIT cardio might not work out. it's frustrating- spend 3 days getting into keto then go hypo w out even pushing the throttle, so I need to eat carbs kick myself out ahd go thru the lag again and hope I don't go hypo until I'm 100% functioning keto?
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Fat requires a greater number of chemical reactions, to be used as fuel, than carbs. So, without carbs, if you overload your fat burning system, as would be the case with HIT, there's no back up, and performance suffers.
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Not having specifically looked them up but aren't there studies that show the opposite or where would the 15% number come from?
Also the guy was on a diet for 6 months correct (cant read the whole study)? If that is correct then that is a looong time to be dieting and could contribute as well.
The whole point of the ultra low cals is that you dont have to be on it for a long time.
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Fat requires a greater number of chemical reactions, to be used as fuel, than carbs. So, without carbs, if you overload your fat burning system, as would be the case with HIT, there's no back up, and performance suffers.
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Let me understand. You went on a 10 day diet and went from super in shape to super in shape?
no one is amazing??
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The whole point of the ultra low cals is that you dont have to be on it for a long time.
Yes, that was what I was kind of getting at so the study he showed didn't really have a whole lot to do with the topic.
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Yes, that was what I was saying so the study he showed didn't really have a whole lot to do with the topic.
I know, I was re-enforcing your point.
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Here I wrote lengthy reply but realised this discussion doesn't make any sense. Whatever, "numpty".
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Here I wrote lengthy reply but realised this discussion doesn't make any sense. Whatever, "numpty".
ya no sense looking more foolish.
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ya no sense looking more foolish.
You really think you look "smart"? Jesus, you really are arrogant. Please remind us, what is your job and where did you get your degree?
By the way, quote in my previous post was from Layne Norton. Do you really think you know more about nutrition and have more experience in coaching and know the consequences of your diet just because handful of people from internet posted pictures when they looked leaner than before using your protocol?
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Great build for a female competitor
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And by the way, no where did I write or imply that what you suggest does not work. So your whole retort, especially considering its offensive nature, was an epic failure. I merely suggested what could be the long term consequences of severe caloric restriction. But since I am all about facts and not personal agendas I have to agree with you - if you are on drugs and disregard everything except from how lean you are and how fast you can get to that state then hell yes, that person should follow what you suggest. Arabian bodybuilders starve, take shitload of diuretics and look shredded.
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You really think you look "smart"? Jesus, you really are arrogant. Please remind us, what is your job and where did you get your degree?
By the way, quote in my previous post was from Layne Norton. Do you really think you know more about nutrition and have more experience in coaching and know the consequences of your diet just because handful of people from internet posted pictures when they looked leaner than before using your protocol?
"Receiver"
I think you should copy/paste more Layne notron misinformation.
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What's funny is even Lyle McDonald warns against using a PSMF for long periods of time.
He says you'll fuck your shit up.
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"Receiver"
I think you should copy/paste more Layne notron misinformation.
Careful or he'll start following you around like a scorned bitch like he does with me :D
I don't even remember what I posted to tenderize his vagine but they must have been very hurtful words.
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This girl eats 1800 calories to 2500, does only 2-3 days weight training in the gym and no cardio.
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1800-2000 calories on off-days and up to 2500 calories on training-days. I needed some time to get my metabolism fast, but now I feel fine with keeping my bodyfat and eat lots of calories (in my dimensions).
What is your current routine?
One day is based on Squats, the other on Deadlifts, the rest varies, but I rely strongly on basic movements and 2-3 intense sessions per week. No cardio.
Bone rack.
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I have seen Luimarco, a Lifetime Natural, age 40, diet on 1260 calories for just a few weeks and get super fast results. He also trains 3-4 days a week only.
Looks like SHIT.
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Careful or he'll start following you around like a scorned bitch like he does with me :D
I don't even remember what I posted to tenderize his vagine but they must have been very hurtful words.
If I was a betting man, I would bet that there are things.
I do need a new pet to follow me around.. My lackluster posting pefrormance of late has shook a few loose.
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This girl eats 1800 calories to 2500, does only 2-3 days weight training in the gym and no cardio.
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1800-2000 calories on off-days and up to 2500 calories on training-days. I needed some time to get my metabolism fast, but now I feel fine with keeping my bodyfat and eat lots of calories (in my dimensions).
What is your current routine?
One day is based on Squats, the other on Deadlifts, the rest varies, but I rely strongly on basic movements and 2-3 intense sessions per week. No cardio.
And the pic is clearly shopped.
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And by the way, no where did I write or imply that what you suggest does not work. So your whole retort, especially considering its offensive nature, was an epic failure. I merely suggested what could be the long term consequences of severe caloric restriction. But since I am all about facts and not personal agendas I have to agree with you - if you are on drugs and disregard everything except from how lean you are and how fast you can get to that state then hell yes, that person should follow what you suggest. Arabian bodybuilders starve, take shitload of diuretics and look shredded.
no what you did was tried to play the big shot know it all like you normally do and made yourself look stupid. like you normally do.
a gimp with zero experience but all the studies. lol maybe send your studies to Ex Coelis and tell him he's doing it wrong.
I'm all for debate. do the diet. come back and debate it. shove the 'studies' up your ass.
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pics and diets detailed would help in assessing what works or is working for someone posting claims...the thread starter has come through looks good on a condition standpoint..
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Question.
Do you wear the same outfit everyday or do you rotate your wardrobe every 10 days?
I only change my clothes after I bathe, which is once every ten days.
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This diet seems like a dangerous eating disorder