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I tend to think that good cops far outnumber bad cops. Now, they ALL, whether good or bad, abuse their power onto the population they pretend to defend. I have yet to meet a person that does not have a bad experience with the police. My top two (personal) are as follows:
1. One day, some friends of mine and me went to a restaurant in Newark, NJ. Dropped them off at the restaurant while I went to look for parking. Finally parked my car on the SE side of Independence Park, while the restaurant I was going to was located 7-8 blocks northwest. Since I'd wasted 15 minutes looking for a parking spot I figured that cutting through the park was the best idea. WRONG. I was literally ran over by a cop car for "questioning". Had me in the hands-on-the-hood stance for 5 minutes while they asked me all kinds of questions about robbing a car. Little did they know one of my friends was a corporate lawyer. To make a long story short, I was compensated (27k) for my troubles by the City of Newark, the precinct police chief apologized to me in person and the cops involved (verbally) reprimanded (or so I've heard). Took 4 years though.
2. On my way to Montreal with wife and 3-year old, we get pulled over by NY state patrol. Guy tagged me for 2 miles, literally bumper-to-bumper, until I went past the 20 mph/4 points/$200 fine baseline. While pulled over, now in Chatham county, guy walks over and rudely asks me roll down the window, all the way down, which I refuse to do because it was January and it was cold. This ginny cop (TJ Esposito for all those interested) puts the light on me and then on my kid, who was asleep. After about 20 seconds of me saying "what are you doing?" (he was clearly trying to wake up my kid,) he asks me "do you know why I pulled you over?," to which I answered with "nope" and "any reason you tagged me for about 2 miles? I really, really felt threatened by the way you were driving". Cop walks away and comes back with Da Ticket (sure enough, it was a triple whammy). As soon as he hands me the ticket he proceeds to tell me that I have a choice to appear in court or not. I tell him "oh yes I will, my car has a camera installed in the back". Sure enough, my wife and I took off from work, went to court, with our kid, and presented the evidence to the "judge". Guy took 5 seconds to dismiss the summons, primarily because the cop did not show up, but also because the judge saw this cop driving recklessly just to get the other 2 points out of me. Eventually I wrote a multitude of letters to all of this guy's neighbors detailing the actions of this knucklehead (didn't get specific because I didn't want to give myself away). That must've freaked him the fuck out.
Now, what's your story?
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Slapper are you a Hebrew?
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I've got many stories but won't post them here because I'd be labeled as a r*****.
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You spent 4 years to filch $27k of taxpayer money for being questioned by the cops for 5 minutes? :-\
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I have some bad stories. Deep level corruption. But I am past it. I don't need to discuss. I know many cops are bad people, and the so called "good ones" are compliant.
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Cmon Hebrew getbiggers, step up!! I'm white, so I have 0 stories. .
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I tend to think that good cops far outnumber bad cops. Now, they ALL, whether good or bad, abuse their power onto the population they pretend to defend. I have yet to meet a person that does not have a bad experience with the police. My top two (personal) are as follows:
1. One day, some friends of mine and me went to a restaurant in Newark, NJ. Dropped them off at the restaurant while I went to look for parking. Finally parked my car on the SE side of Independence Park, while the restaurant I was going to was located 7-8 blocks northwest. Since I'd wasted 15 minutes looking for a parking spot I figured that cutting through the park was the best idea. WRONG. I was literally ran over by a cop car for "questioning". Had me in the hands-on-the-hood stance for 5 minutes while they asked me all kinds of questions about robbing a car. Little did they know one of my friends was a corporate lawyer. To make a long story short, I was compensated (27k) for my troubles by the City of Newark, the precinct police chief apologized to me in person and the cops involved (verbally) reprimanded (or so I've heard). Took 4 years though.
2. On my way to Montreal with wife and 3-year old, we get pulled over by NY state patrol. Guy tagged me for 2 miles, literally bumper-to-bumper, until I went past the 20 mph/4 points/$200 fine baseline. While pulled over, now in Chatham county, guy walks over and rudely asks me roll down the window, all the way down, which I refuse to do because it was January and it was cold. This ginny cop (TJ Esposito for all those interested) puts the light on me and then on my kid, who was asleep. After about 20 seconds of me saying "what are you doing?" (he was clearly trying to wake up my kid,) he asks me "do you know why I pulled you over?," to which I answered with "nope" and "any reason you tagged me for about 2 miles? I really, really felt threatened by the way you were driving". Cop walks away and comes back with Da Ticket (sure enough, it was a triple whammy). As soon as he hands me the ticket he proceeds to tell me that I have a choice to appear in court or not. I tell him "oh yes I will, my car has a camera installed in the back". Sure enough, my wife and I took off from work, went to court, with our kid, and presented the evidence to the "judge". Guy took 5 seconds to dismiss the summons, primarily because the cop did not show up, but also because the judge saw this cop driving recklessly just to get the other 2 points out of me. Eventually I wrote a multitude of letters to all of this guy's neighbors detailing the actions of this knucklehead (didn't get specific because I didn't want to give myself away). That must've freaked him the fuck out.
Now, what's your story?
Once I was stealing money and naturally some coppers came over to spoil my fun. I ripped off my shirt and hit a few poses, and the fools scurried off like the rats that they were.
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I tend to think that good cops far outnumber bad cops. Now, they ALL, whether good or bad, abuse their power onto the population they pretend to defend. I have yet to meet a person that does not have a bad experience with the police. My top two (personal) are as follows:
1. One day, some friends of mine and me went to a restaurant in Newark, NJ. Dropped them off at the restaurant while I went to look for parking. Finally parked my car on the SE side of Independence Park, while the restaurant I was going to was located 7-8 blocks northwest. Since I'd wasted 15 minutes looking for a parking spot I figured that cutting through the park was the best idea. WRONG. I was literally ran over by a cop car for "questioning". Had me in the hands-on-the-hood stance for 5 minutes while they asked me all kinds of questions about robbing a car. Little did they know one of my friends was a corporate lawyer. To make a long story short, I was compensated (27k) for my troubles by the City of Newark, the precinct police chief apologized to me in person and the cops involved (verbally) reprimanded (or so I've heard). Took 4 years though.
2. On my way to Montreal with wife and 3-year old, we get pulled over by NY state patrol. Guy tagged me for 2 miles, literally bumper-to-bumper, until I went past the 20 mph/4 points/$200 fine baseline. While pulled over, now in Chatham county, guy walks over and rudely asks me roll down the window, all the way down, which I refuse to do because it was January and it was cold. This ginny cop (TJ Esposito for all those interested) puts the light on me and then on my kid, who was asleep. After about 20 seconds of me saying "what are you doing?" (he was clearly trying to wake up my kid,) he asks me "do you know why I pulled you over?," to which I answered with "nope" and "any reason you tagged me for about 2 miles? I really, really felt threatened by the way you were driving". Cop walks away and comes back with Da Ticket (sure enough, it was a triple whammy). As soon as he hands me the ticket he proceeds to tell me that I have a choice to appear in court or not. I tell him "oh yes I will, my car has a camera installed in the back". Sure enough, my wife and I took off from work, went to court, with our kid, and presented the evidence to the "judge". Guy took 5 seconds to dismiss the summons, primarily because the cop did not show up, but also because the judge saw this cop driving recklessly just to get the other 2 points out of me. Eventually I wrote a multitude of letters to all of this guy's neighbors detailing the actions of this knucklehead (didn't get specific because I didn't want to give myself away). That must've freaked him the fuck out.
Now, what's your story?
So you were questioned, about a robbery that likely took place in that area, for five minutes... and let go? And you think that warrants you almost 30k in taxpayers money? Were you shot? Tased? Beat down? Cursed at? Oh brother.
I hate to admit it bro, but you're a giant faggot and I truly wish the worst for you in life.
And lol at being a creepo writing letters (oh brother) to some dudes neighbors.
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Slapper are you a Hebrew?
He said he was with his kid so I don't think he is
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You spent 4 years to filch $27k of taxpayer money for being questioned by the cops for 5 minutes? :-\
X2 not sure why he got the money. This happens a thousand times a day, routine police work. Although he did say he was literally ran over by the cop car so maybe that's why.
Me, I'm white so yeah I've had some encounters with the police when I was young but nothing too crazy or exciting at all.
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that was two stories embarrasing to read. you wont recover
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Just got a $100 ticket for not coming to a full dead stop at a stop sign while making a right turn. This was at 1:30 in the morning in a residential neighborhood where there wasn't a car in sight.
Three months ago I got a $300 ticket for looking a txt message just sent to me while at a stop light. I wasn't txting and I was just sitting there waiting at a stop light that I know takes forever. No more dangerous than look at your gas gauge or speedometer or reading road signs for that matter. All legal to do while you are driving.
I use to be pro police but they've changed a lot over the decades. More predatory and militarize. When it comes to the end of the month that's when they find any excuse to shake down working people that pays their salary.
BTW, last time I got a ticket was when I was 17 years old.
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Just got a $100 ticket for not coming to a full dead stop at a stop sign while making a right turn. This was at 1:30 in the morning in a residential neighborhood where there wasn't a car in sight.
Three months ago I got a $300 ticket for looking a txt message just sent to me while at a stop light. I wasn't txting and I was just sitting there waiting at a stop light that I know takes forever. No more dangerous than look at your gas gauge or speedometer or reading road signs for that matter. All legal to do while you are driving.
I use to be pro police but they've changed a lot over the decades. More predatory and militarize. When it comes to the end of the month that's when they find any excuse to shake down working people that pays their salary.
BTW, last time I got a ticket was when I was 17 years old.
Ah yes, they obviously have a mandated quota to fill every month, duh. ::)
Just got a $100 ticket for not coming to a full dead stop at a stop sign while making a right turn. This was at 1:30 in the morning in a residential neighborhood where there wasn't a car in sight.
Besides the police officer that saw you, right?
Perhaps he was in a helicopter.
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the only exception to getting a ticket should be if youre on getbig with your phone.
"you texting?"
"no officer, im just posting pictures of cats, dogs, women and cars in the random picture thread"
"oh ok, carry on nick"
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Ah yes, they obviously have a mandated quota to fill every month, duh.
Besides the police officer that saw you, right?
Perhaps he was in a helicopter.
That's my point. Shaking down working people. It's not about safety or law and order. It's just about money.
And you're back to being stupid. Cars on the road. Cars moving on the road. The laws are meant to service the people not the people the laws. When when the roads are deserted I feel like a moron waiting at a red light. And I mean deserted of cars driving on the road.
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That's my point. Shaking down working people. It's not about safety or law and order. It's just about money.
And you're back to being stupid. Cars on the road. Cars moving on the road. The laws are meant to service the people not the people the laws. When when the roads are deserted I feel like a moron waiting at a red light. And I mean deserted of cars driving on the road.
Laws are laws, laws are black and white; stop at the fucking stop sign, or you get a ticket if caught. Hard concept.
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I was once jaywalking and this cop pulls up to me and starts talking shit to me telling me to get out of the street. I just laughed and told him he was too much of a pussy to do anything to me. Pics below to prove it.
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I was once jaywalking and this cop pulls up to me and starts talking shit to me telling me to get out of the street. I just laughed and told him he was too much of a pussy to do anything to me. Pics below to prove it.
Haha rest in piss mike black.
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I tend to think that good cops far outnumber bad cops. Now, they ALL, whether good or bad, abuse their power onto the population they pretend to defend. I have yet to meet a person that does not have a bad experience with the police. My top two (personal) are as follows:
1. One day, some friends of mine and me went to a restaurant in Newark, NJ. Dropped them off at the restaurant while I went to look for parking. Finally parked my car on the SE side of Independence Park, while the restaurant I was going to was located 7-8 blocks northwest. Since I'd wasted 15 minutes looking for a parking spot I figured that cutting through the park was the best idea. WRONG. I was literally ran over by a cop car for "questioning". Had me in the hands-on-the-hood stance for 5 minutes while they asked me all kinds of questions about robbing a car. Little did they know one of my friends was a corporate lawyer. To make a long story short, I was compensated (27k) for my troubles by the City of Newark, the precinct police chief apologized to me in person and the cops involved (verbally) reprimanded (or so I've heard). Took 4 years though.
2. On my way to Montreal with wife and 3-year old, we get pulled over by NY state patrol. Guy tagged me for 2 miles, literally bumper-to-bumper, until I went past the 20 mph/4 points/$200 fine baseline. While pulled over, now in Chatham county, guy walks over and rudely asks me roll down the window, all the way down, which I refuse to do because it was January and it was cold. This ginny cop (TJ Esposito for all those interested) puts the light on me and then on my kid, who was asleep. After about 20 seconds of me saying "what are you doing?" (he was clearly trying to wake up my kid,) he asks me "do you know why I pulled you over?," to which I answered with "nope" and "any reason you tagged me for about 2 miles? I really, really felt threatened by the way you were driving". Cop walks away and comes back with Da Ticket (sure enough, it was a triple whammy). As soon as he hands me the ticket he proceeds to tell me that I have a choice to appear in court or not. I tell him "oh yes I will, my car has a camera installed in the back". Sure enough, my wife and I took off from work, went to court, with our kid, and presented the evidence to the "judge". Guy took 5 seconds to dismiss the summons, primarily because the cop did not show up, but also because the judge saw this cop driving recklessly just to get the other 2 points out of me. Eventually I wrote a multitude of letters to all of this guy's neighbors detailing the actions of this knucklehead (didn't get specific because I didn't want to give myself away). That must've freaked him the fuck out.
Now, what's your story?
i grew up right where u where that day, when u where in independence park do u remember the high school(eastside high)?thats where i went to school.u where prolly going to eat on ferry street right? thats where all the great restaurants are located,most anyway. i used to hang out in that park and it was really bad back in the 70's and early 80's,gangs all over the place and fights all the time between blacks and italians/germans/polish dudes. they had a place called MUSCLE BEACH right near there,it was on a church steps where all the juiced up dudes hung out and talked about lifting and juice,i was very young(8 or 9) when i used to see them out there,they all looked built up pretty good and i knew in my heart i wanted to look like them from that moment on. as far as cop stories i got to many to count,one though that sticks out in my mind was when my buddy robbed a car(hotwired)while i watched out,anyway he starts taking to long and next thing i know cops came up on foot and arrested us,they took us down to port newark by the water and said they where going to shoot us and throw us in the water and thats it, i was 9 yrs old and i started begging them please let me go,im not gonna lie i was scared to death.they kept us there about 30min and then let us go,i think i pissed in my pants like 3 times in that 30 min.
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Laws are laws, laws are black and white; stop at the fucking stop sign, or you get a ticket if caught. Hard concept.
And that's how people like you make it so easy for the government to control the population. That's how the Nazi's justified their actions. They were just instruments of the State. They were just obeying the laws. Never think for yourself. Never question or challenge. Just blindly follow what other people tell you to do.
So if you are driving with your father in the car and he gets a heart attack you will just dutifully obey the speed limit getting him to the hospital. After all, laws are laws. It's black and white.
Sheeple. They're everywhere. Baaa, Baaaa.
Are you an American?
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And that's how people like you make it so easy for the government to control the population. That's how the Nazi's justified their actions. They were just instruments of the State. They were just obeying the laws. Never think for yourself. Never question or challenge. Just blindly follow what other people tell you to do.
So if you are driving with your father in the car and he gets a heart attack you will just dutifully obey the speed limit getting him to the hospital. After all, laws are laws. It's black and white.
Sheeple. They're everywhere. Baaa, Baaaa.
Are you an American?
Oh brother... lets go to extremes "If aliens were attacking, would you still obey traffic laws." No, "felonious" I wouldn't.
The fact of the matter is that there is a law, that you stop at a stop sign (big clue). There are reasons for this stop sign. They aren't pointless.
You failed to stop, therefore you were given a ticket. Cause and effect. You chose to not stop, accept the consequence, go on with your miserable existence, instead of crying over a bodybuilding website.
I'm sure that if there was a set of exigent circumstances, dying dad, the shits, your skin finally wilting off your body, etc etc Officer Law would have let you slide.
Besides at 130 AM in a residential neighborhood, you were likely up to no good.
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visualizeboyzasses is on fire today
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Oh brother... lets go to extremes "If aliens were attacking, would you still obey traffic laws." No, "felonious" I wouldn't.
The fact of the matter is that there is a law, that you stop at a stop sign (big clue). There are reasons for this stop sign. They aren't pointless.
You failed to stop, therefore you were given a ticket. Cause and effect. You chose to not stop, accept the consequence, go on with your miserable existence, instead of crying over a bodybuilding website.
I'm sure that if there was a set of exigent circumstances, dying dad, the shits, your skin finally wilting off your body, etc etc Officer Law would have let you slide.
Besides at 130 AM in a residential neighborhood, you were likely up to no good.
So now you admit that laws are not black and white. That there are exceptions. And yes, there is a reason for a stop sign. To bring order to traffic. So that traveling cars don't run into each other. But it's pointless when there are no moving cars even remotely in the area. Again, laws are to serve man not vice versa.
Everything about you just reeks of a beta male. You have wide hips don't you? And answer my question, are you an American?
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So now you admit that laws are not black and white. That there are exceptions. And yes, there is a reason for a stop sign. To bring order to traffic. So that traveling cars don't run into each other. But it's pointless when there are no moving cars even remotely in the area. Again, laws are to serve man not vice versa.
Everything about you just reeks of a beta male. You have wide hips don't you? And answer my question, are you an American?
Apparently there were cars though, I mean one of them pulled you over ??? maybe this phantom police officer was posted up waiting for the one car that was going to be driving on this desolate and abandoned road void of any vehicle or reason to obey traffic laws.
And yes, I am an American, friend.
I would also appreciate it if you kept your thoughts away from my hips, you creep me out.
I bet you feel like going up to cops when they are eating their lunch, and letting them know that you pay their salaries, haha.
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So now you admit that laws are not black and white. That there are exceptions. And yes, there is a reason for a stop sign. To bring order to traffic. So that traveling cars don't run into each other. But it's pointless when there are no moving cars even remotely in the area. Again, laws are to serve man not vice versa.
Everything about you just reeks of a beta male. You have wide hips don't you? And answer my question, are you an American?
I didn't see him admit to that. Seems to me he agreed he would not follow the law in certain circumstances, though the law remains the same.
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Apparently there were cars though, I mean one of them pulled you over ??? maybe this phantom police officer was posted up waiting for the one car that was going to be driving on this desolate and abandoned road void of any vehicle or reason to obey traffic laws.
And yes, I am an American, friend.
I would also appreciate it if you kept your thoughts away from my hips, you creep me out.
I bet you feel like going up to cops when they are eating their lunch, and letting them know that you pay their salaries, haha.
I was clear to say moving cars. The police was parked. A police can park at any random corner and find violations all day. And I did stop. It just wasn't a dead stop. I stop like pretty much everybody does at a stop sign. There's a concept called "the spirit of the law".
But you are a follower. A sheep. Comfortable being told what to do and doing what you're told. That's not a surprise. Most people are like you. That's how the government has been able to get away with what they do. Growing bigger and bigger and more intrusive into our lives.
Baaaaa.
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I didn't see him admit to that. Seems to me he agreed he would not follow the law in certain circumstances, though the law remains the same.
Laws are laws, laws are black and white;
What part of "black and white" don't you understand? Hint: No grey areas.
Try to keep up.
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I didn't see him admit to that. Seems to me he agreed he would not follow the law in certain circumstances, though the law remains the same.
Common sense, intelligence, and reading comprehension = traits pellius is deficient in.
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What part of "black and white" don't you understand? Hint: No grey areas.
Try to keep up.
Yes... they are. Regardless of circumstance, laws are laws. IF the situation was dire, I would disregard these laws, and if caught... I would hope the officer would show some slack (he likely would).
But you are just some creepo cruising around residential neighborhoods, at the wee hours of the morning, blowing through stop signs with little care for the mongrel children that likely are out committing crimes in any destitute neighborhood you would be likely to frequent.
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What part of "black and white" don't you understand? Hint: No grey areas.
Try to keep up.
Do you mean "black or white"? I'm pretty sure black AND white makes grey :D
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Failius melting down in this thread.
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/15958/monkey-typing-o.gif)
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people always think the police should be lenient on them
but come down on anyone they complain about
re the stop sign
the reason you have to have zero tolerance
is first you start not stopping fully at one in the moring when nobody is about
it then becomes a habit
you then cleam someone up because you have got in to the habit of not stoppping
its a stop sign, stop at it
problem solved
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Failius melting down in this thread.
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/15958/monkey-typing-o.gif)
The typical, over used response when one has run out of arguments.
This is not a question of who is right or who is wrong. It's a difference in world view. You're a follower. I am not. This country was founded on liberty and freedom. Those escaping oppression and government control. Those in power always seek more power and control.
We as Americans have now become very soft and complacent taking things, taking our freedoms for granted. I realize I'm now in the minority and fighting a losing battle. But I'll go down fighting.
A lady got a $250 ticket parking in a handicap stall. She was cleaning the restaurant in the middle of the night while the restaurant was close. She didn't feel safe walking through the parking lot in the middle of the night by herself. And, after all, the reason for those stalls was to serve handicap people going into the restaurant. Or so you would think. And since the restaurant was close what did it matter?
She took her case to court and lost. The law is the law. You got to have a handicap permit to park in the handicap stall. It doesn't matter if you are even handicap or not. What matters is that you have a permit on your dash board. That's the law.
Baaa.
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but did you died?
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Common sense, intelligence, and reading comprehension = traits pellius is deficient in.
And Sun Block.
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if i was a cop id be fired in 2 weeks, i wouldnt mess with nobody for petty shit like not stopping fully at stop sign or going thru yellow lights ect, id end up beating the shit out of some assholes speeding thru neighborhoods where little kids play and/or where school buses are and those people just fly by not stopping when the school bus has his stop sign out. man oh man id pull them over and literally write them so many tickets their head would spin,id write tickets that havent even been voted to pass the law on. then id prolly tell them how fucking stupid they r and how they could easily kill a little innocent kid just by driving like an asshole,then when they said something smart to me id cuff them and bring them somewhere on a deserted country rode and pull their pants down and torture them by sticking objects in their anus,like pine cones,sticks,branches ect,ive really always wanted to have that power to torture people and have them begging me for their lives while i stand over them with a shotgun.i hate the human race anyway and i will get my revenge soon on them all
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if i was a cop id be fired in 2 weeks, i wouldnt mess with nobody for petty shit like not stopping fully at stop sign or going thru yellow lights ect, id end up beating the shit out of some assholes speeding thru neighborhoods where little kids play and/or where school buses are and those people just fly by not stopping when the school bus has his stop sign out. man oh man id pull them over and literally write them so many tickets their head would spin,id write tickets that havent even been voted to pass the law on. then id prolly tell them how fucking stupid they r and how they could easily kill a little innocent kid just by driving like an asshole,then when they said something smart to me id cuff them and bring them somewhere on a deserted country rode and pull their pants down and torture them by sticking objects in their anus,like pine cones,sticks,branches ect,ive really always wanted to have that power to torture people and have them begging me for their lives while i stand over them with a shotgun.i hate the human race anyway and i will get my revenge soon on them all
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if i was a cop id be fired in 2 weeks, i wouldnt mess with nobody for petty shit like not stopping fully at stop sign or going thru yellow lights ect, id end up beating the shit out of some assholes speeding thru neighborhoods where little kids play and/or where school buses are and those people just fly by not stopping when the school bus has his stop sign out. man oh man id pull them over and literally write them so many tickets their head would spin,id write tickets that havent even been voted to pass the law on. then id prolly tell them how fucking stupid they r and how they could easily kill a little innocent kid just by driving like an asshole,then when they said something smart to me id cuff them and bring them somewhere on a deserted country rode and pull their pants down and torture them by sticking objects in their anus,like pine cones,sticks,branches ect,ive really always wanted to have that power to torture people and have them begging me for their lives while i stand over them with a shotgun.i hate the human race anyway and i will get my revenge soon on them all
You'd be the sort of cop we need, but not the sort of cop we have... who would rather financially harass honest workers 'cos it's safe and easy.
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Never once had a problem with a police officer...then again I'm not a criminal so why would I.
In fact in the last 10 years I've been pulled over twice and was just given warnings.
Once for entering a roundabout with proper yielding and recently for not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign.
....the best was when the cop just gave me a warning for not coming to a complete stop....he told me "Hahaha we just gave this wrinkled up skinny old Hawaiian guy a ticket for the same thing we're letting you go for ;D :D"
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Never once had a problem with a police officer...then again I'm not a criminal so why would I.
In fact in the last 10 years I've been pulled over twice and was just given warnings.
Once for entering a roundabout with proper yielding and recently for not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign.
....the best was when the cop just gave me a warning for not coming to a complete stop....he told me "Hahaha we just gave this wrinkled up skinny old Hawaiian guy a ticket for the same thing we're letting you go for ;D :D"
Bet you've never had a problem with the mafia, or the triads either.... capiche?
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Never once had a problem with a police officer...then again I'm not a criminal so why would I.
In fact in the last 10 years I've been pulled over twice and was just given warnings.
Once for entering a roundabout with proper yielding and recently for not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign.
....the best was when the cop just gave me a warning for not coming to a complete stop....he told me "Hahaha we just gave this wrinkled up skinny old Hawaiian guy a ticket for the same thing we're letting you go for ;D :D"
X2.
I have been given warnings the last two times as well. The last time I was going 90 on the highway, and I noticed an unmarked pickup truck tailing me as I switched lanes to get away from slow drivers.
When he turned on his lights I thought I was fucked.
1. Always have your info readily available
2. Tell the truth. If you were speeding, admit that you were caught.
3. Don't look like a scared pussy. I noticed that the cop might be a redneck, so I made a joke that I thought he was getting a good draft off of me. It worked.
4. It helps if you are white or have tits. I happen to have both.
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X2.
I have been given warnings the last two times as well. The last time I was going 90 on the highway, and I noticed an unmarked pickup truck tailing me as I switched lanes to get away from slow drivers.
When he turned on his lights I thought I was fucked.
1. Always have your info readily available
2. Tell the truth. If you were speeding, admit that you were caught.
3. Don't look like a scared pussy. I noticed that the cop might be a redneck, so I made a joke that I thought he was getting a good draft off of me. It worked.
4. It helps if you are white or have tits. I happen to have both.
Yup, one was at night and before he got to my car I had already had my interior lights on and my glove box open.
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most cops are decent,PROVIDING u treat them with RESPECT,ive got away with so much shit by just being HONEST and RESPECTFUL to the cop.some will nail u regardless if u r nice or not but it still pays to be cool
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when i was young, cops were punks to me. Once i got threatened with a ticket for a seatbelt, when clearly wearing one. Once for running a non-functional red light... stuck on red in construction zone in middle of night.
Once the cop gave me a warning for doing 43 in a 35... but then took my gun, emptied all of the bullets from the magazine, and handed it back with these words "This way, it'll take you a few minutes to reload in case you start shooting at us".
That had to be the most idiotic thing I've ever heard. I'm a law abiding 22 year old with a concealed permit.
THESE DAYS, I get stopped from time to time (coming home quite sober late at night from working). They're usually very friendly once they realize it's a sober working man, their age or older, with the hairline running just like that. Most of the time, it's "cool, well you have these 3 lights out, just get them fixed, have a great night". Then they proceed to beat the shit out of a 19 year old sleeping in car somewhere.
They really mess with the young. When you're older (i'm 38)... if a cop pushes it, I want a supervisor, a camera, and a #@&**# LAWYER. I do not wish to answer any Qs. Charge me or release me, turn on cell camera, get a nice audience going, etc. In this global digital age, a cop can be filmed right to Dropbox and abuses will be on CNN in a day - It seems like they're getting wiser most of the time.
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The typical, over used response when one has run out of arguments.
This is not a question of who is right or who is wrong. It's a difference in world view. You're a follower. I am not. This country was founded on liberty and freedom. Those escaping oppression and government control. Those in power always seek more power and control.
We as Americans have now become very soft and complacent taking things, taking our freedoms for granted. I realize I'm now in the minority and fighting a losing battle. But I'll go down fighting.
A lady got a $250 ticket parking in a handicap stall. She was cleaning the restaurant in the middle of the night while the restaurant was close. She didn't feel safe walking through the parking lot in the middle of the night by herself. And, after all, the reason for those stalls was to serve handicap people going into the restaurant. Or so you would think. And since the restaurant was close what did it matter?
She took her case to court and lost. The law is the law. You got to have a handicap permit to park in the handicap stall. It doesn't matter if you are even handicap or not. What matters is that you have a permit on your dash board. That's the law.
Baaa.
But not for the natives, right?
I hate to burst your bubble, but not stopping at a stop sign does not make you a revolutionary freedom fighter.
It sounds more like teenage angst.
And to clear up what's already been touched on; road traffic regulations are set in place by a comittee, on the principle that if everyone abides by the same set of rules on the road accidents can be avoided because there is a logical governing system. They are put in place for every bodies welfare. Following these rules makes you considerate, not a sheep.
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But not for the natives, right?
I hate to burst your bubble, but not stopping at a stop sign does not make you a revolutionary freedom fighter.
It sounds more like teenage angst.
And to clear up what's already been touched on; road traffic regulations are set in place by a comittee, on the principle that if everyone abides by the same set of rules on the road accidents can be avoided because there is a logical governing system. They are put in place for every bodies welfare. Following these rules makes you considerate, not a sheep.
Waller owning Pellius into oblivion.
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Slapper are you a Hebrew?
No, white.
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That's my point. Shaking down working people. It's not about safety or law and order. It's just about money.
And you're back to being stupid. Cars on the road. Cars moving on the road. The laws are meant to service the people not the people the laws. When when the roads are deserted I feel like a moron waiting at a red light. And I mean deserted of cars driving on the road.
Done in one!
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He said he was with his kid so I don't think he is
:)
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You spent 4 years to filch $27k of taxpayer money for being questioned by the cops for 5 minutes? :-\
No. What happened was that the cops, in the process of assaulting me, broke my left frontal incisor tooth as well as a nasty gash on my lip. They followed me to the restaurant I was going to to make sure I was telling them the truth. As soon as I got there my friends were waiting for me in front of the restaurant, the cops got out and asked my friends if they knew me. Initially, they were in shock because they though I'd gotten into a fight, but I told them what had happened. It took me at least 5 minutes, by which time one of the cops was getting mighty irritated. My lawyer friend went inside the restaurant to grab a piece of paper and a pen and came out to get names. One of the cops got in his face. Lawyer friend backs away and tells him that he is a corporate lawyer, cop comes down. My friend asks for his name, the cop tells him, literally, that he (my friend) is lucky not to get arrested, to which my friend replies "your boss will definitely be hearing from my firm".
Turns out their boss tried to get these cops off the hook. Their main issue was that 1. They refused to identify themselves and 2. Never called an ambulance even though I was in dire need of medical help.
My friend pursued this to its fullest and tried getting the cops suspended, which was my only goal. Their boss refused, so their (lawyer) tried to get us to agree on a monetary settlement. I said 50k and they agreed: 23K to the lawfirm, 27K for me. I have a feeling they would've accepted 100k too. They fucked up so bad. It was nice to get their boss as well as their apology in front of the lawyers though.
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Once I was stealing money and naturally some coppers came over to spoil my fun. I ripped off my shirt and hit a few poses, and the fools scurried off like the rats that they were.
Deep thoughts like these usually end in "and then they sucked my dick".
That's your dream buddy, not ours.
Wake the fuck up!
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And that's how people like you make it so easy for the government to control the population. That's how the Nazi's justified their actions. They were just instruments of the State. They were just obeying the laws. Never think for yourself. Never question or challenge. Just blindly follow what other people tell you to do.
So if you are driving with your father in the car and he gets a heart attack you will just dutifully obey the speed limit getting him to the hospital. After all, laws are laws. It's black and white.
Sheeple. They're everywhere. Baaa, Baaaa.
Are you an American?
Excellent analogy, very unpredictable. Just like Nazis, which doesn't minimize the SS atrocities one iota. Well done, sir.
Nice touch with "Sheeple" as well, don't here this enough. Good to know we still got againster heroes like you out there keeping 'em all honest. Sincerest thanks.
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Waller owning Pellius into oblivion.
Golly, my first peer approved 'owning' :D
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So now you admit that laws are not black and white. That there are exceptions. And yes, there is a reason for a stop sign. To bring order to traffic. So that traveling cars don't run into each other. But it's pointless when there are no moving cars even remotely in the area. Again, laws are to serve man not vice versa.
Everything about you just reeks of a beta male. You have wide hips don't you? And answer my question, are you an American?
Dude would squish you like raisin, Raisin.
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The typical, over used response when one has run out of arguments.
This is not a question of who is right or who is wrong. It's a difference in world view. You're a follower. I am not. This country was founded on liberty and freedom. Those escaping oppression and government control. Those in power always seek more power and control.
We as Americans have now become very soft and complacent taking things, taking our freedoms for granted. I realize I'm now in the minority and fighting a losing battle. But I'll go down fighting.
A lady got a $250 ticket parking in a handicap stall. She was cleaning the restaurant in the middle of the night while the restaurant was close. She didn't feel safe walking through the parking lot in the middle of the night by herself. And, after all, the reason for those stalls was to serve handicap people going into the restaurant. Or so you would think. And since the restaurant was close what did it matter?
She took her case to court and lost. The law is the law. You got to have a handicap permit to park in the handicap stall. It doesn't matter if you are even handicap or not. What matters is that you have a permit on your dash board. That's the law.
Baaa.
Conservative Christian, no? Came up with that stuff yourself, trailblazer?
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I was clear to say moving cars. The police was parked. A police can park at any random corner and find violations all day. And I did stop. It just wasn't a dead stop. I stop like pretty much everybody does at a stop sign. There's a concept called "the spirit of the law".
But you are a follower. A sheep. Comfortable being told what to do and doing what you're told. That's not a surprise. Most people are like you. That's how the government has been able to get away with what they do. Growing bigger and bigger and more intrusive into our lives.
Baaaaa.
Assuming driving is a Constitutional right, another gem. How does your sheep defense work in court, fella?
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The typical, over used response when one has run out of arguments.
This is not a question of who is right or who is wrong. It's a difference in world view. You're a follower. I am not. This country was founded on liberty and freedom. Those escaping oppression and government control. Those in power always seek more power and control.
We as Americans have now become very soft and complacent taking things, taking our freedoms for granted. I realize I'm now in the minority and fighting a losing battle. But I'll go down fighting.
A lady got a $250 ticket parking in a handicap stall. She was cleaning the restaurant in the middle of the night while the restaurant was close. She didn't feel safe walking through the parking lot in the middle of the night by herself. And, after all, the reason for those stalls was to serve handicap people going into the restaurant. Or so you would think. And since the restaurant was close what did it matter?
She took her case to court and lost. The law is the law. You got to have a handicap permit to park in the handicap stall. It doesn't matter if you are even handicap or not. What matters is that you have a permit on your dash board. That's the law.
Baaa.
Wait, she did as you'd likely suggest and still lost. I agree here, bullshit violation, but you're pretending there's a better alternative. So how does a crusader like yourself handle such injustice, besides whining about it on a bodybuilding board? Pay the ticket, write an essay in lock-up?
Certainly you and the non-sheeple cleaning lady-types don't pay fines. So what, then?
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Deep thoughts like these usually end in "and then they sucked my dick".
That's your dream buddy, not ours.
Wake the fuck up!
I am a martial arts master and you are a pipsqueak. That is why I beat up the coppers and the coppers beat you up.
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I was clear to say moving cars. The police was parked. A police can park at any random corner and find violations all day. And I did stop. It just wasn't a dead stop. I stop like pretty much everybody does at a stop sign. There's a concept called "the spirit of the law".
But you are a follower. A sheep. Comfortable being told what to do and doing what you're told. That's not a surprise. Most people are like you. That's how the government has been able to get away with what they do. Growing bigger and bigger and more intrusive into our lives.
I identify/agree with what you're saying, totally.
Traffic laws, among many other laws, are terribly intrusive.
And yes, it is extortion.
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When I was a teenager I was driving home from school with a group of my friends in a 70's Camaro. All of a sudden we are surrounded by four cop cars flashing their lights and sirens pointing for us to pull over. We pulled over into a hot n now employee parking area. The cops started yelling at us to get out of the car with our hands up. They asked how many people were in the car. They made us turn around and face the car with our hands on the hood of the camaro while they frisked us. A couple of cops stood back with their guns drawn-not a full draw but slightly above hip level. We were asked a ton of questions I can't remember-it was twenty years ago. Some of the questions were basic shit like, who we were and where we were going. I didn't know what the fuck was going on. I and another male were put in cuffs. The girl and the driver of the car were not. The driver of the car was taken to the back of a police car while the cops checked the car. When he got out he had a ticket in his hand for running a red light. Then the cops just left without a word The thing is, I know my friend didn't run a red light. We only passed one light before we were pulled over and I remember stopping at it. The distance from the high school to my house was about a mile
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I am a martial arts master and you are a pipsqueak. That is why I beat up the coppers and the coppers beat you up.
That's all you got?
Nothing else to say???
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I identify/agree with what you're saying, totally.
Traffic laws, among many other laws, are terribly intrusive.
And yes, it is extortion.
Do you want me to teach you how to fight so that the dreaded coppers won't bully you again?
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When I was a teenager I was driving home from school with a group of my friends in a 70's Camaro. All of a sudden we are surrounded by four cop cars flashing their lights and sirens pointing for us to pull over. We pulled over into a hot n now employee parking area. The cops started yelling at us to get out of the car with our hands up. They asked how many people were in the car. They made us turn around and face the car with our hands on the hood of the camaro while they frisked us. A couple of cops stood back with their guns drawn-not a full draw but slightly above hip level. We were asked a ton of questions I can't remember-it was twenty years ago. Some of the questions were basic shit like, who we were and where we were going. I didn't know what the fuck was going on. I and another male were put in cuffs. The girl and the driver of the car were not. The driver of the car was taken to the back of a police car while the cops checked the car. When he got out he had a ticket in his hand for running a red light. Then the cops just left without a word The thing is, I know my friend didn't run a red light. We only passed one light before we were pulled over and I remember stopping at it. The distance from the high school to my house was about a mile
Any male longhairs in your crew?
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Any male longhairs in your crew?
haha, not that I can remember and no hebros. I may have had a skater cut at the time and a flannel shirt on-it was the early 90's
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a constable once called me 'punk', and bizarrely, wanted me to 'make his day' ???
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a constable once called me 'punk', and bizarrely, wanted me to 'make his day' ???
Do you feel lucky punk?
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haha, not that I can remember and no hebros. I may have had a skater cut at the time and a flannel shirt on-it was the early 90's
Had a few run-ins, likely attributed to our Motley 80s shags. Shitty teenage attitudes probably didn't help much, though I was usually the respectful one.
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Had a few run-ins likely attributed to our Motley 80s locks. Shitty teenage attitudes probably didn't help much, though I was usually the respectful one.
I was usually the respectful one too. These cops had a stick up their ass about something and I wasn't going to push them. One of my friends in the car was asking questions and I could tell it was agitating the cops. I gave him a look that said, don't make this worse. We didn't have any drugs in the car or alcohol or on us. I wasn't a drug dealer nor was anyone I was with. I knew everyone I was with since junior high and am still friends with them. It was a weird experience. That many cops aren't usually necessary for a traffic stop. We hadn't even driven a half mile from the school before we were pulled over.
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I have another story. I moved out of my house shortly before I turned sixteen. My brother, his girlfriend and I shared an apartment. I went to school during the day and I worked about 7:00 to 11:30 at night a couple days during the week and on weekends. I didn't have a car at the time so I had to hoof it home and practically every night a cop would pull up to me, ask me a load of questions, search me and then let me go. This went on for weeks. Eventually they would just flash their lights and wave at me or follow me for a bit and leave.
By chance I saw one of the cops at my job and we talked a little. I was glad I saw her because it proved I wasn't lying. She was laughing when she told me the cops were harassing me because they thought I was lying about walking home form work and I was actually a male prostitute. The area I walked through was a well known pick up spot. I was aware of this fact because beside the cops I had dudes pulling over and asking me if I was okay and needed a ride. I always declined. I didn't want to live out my days in someone's rape dungeon. This was before the days I knew about bodybuilding's seedy underbelly. If I knew then what I knew then I would have found the most sparkly pair of thongs I could find and made a few bucks.
Funny side story, one of the good samaritans who asked if I was okay and needed a ride was an administrator at my old school. I recognized him instantly because of his bad toupee. He didn't recognize me.
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No. What happened was that the cops, in the process of assaulting me, broke my left frontal incisor tooth as well as a nasty gash on my lip. They followed me to the restaurant I was going to to make sure I was telling them the truth. As soon as I got there my friends were waiting for me in front of the restaurant, the cops got out and asked my friends if they knew me. Initially, they were in shock because they though I'd gotten into a fight, but I told them what had happened. It took me at least 5 minutes, by which time one of the cops was getting mighty irritated. My lawyer friend went inside the restaurant to grab a piece of paper and a pen and came out to get names. One of the cops got in his face. Lawyer friend backs away and tells him that he is a corporate lawyer, cop comes down. My friend asks for his name, the cop tells him, literally, that he (my friend) is lucky not to get arrested, to which my friend replies "your boss will definitely be hearing from my firm".
Turns out their boss tried to get these cops off the hook. Their main issue was that 1. They refused to identify themselves and 2. Never called an ambulance even though I was in dire need of medical help.
My friend pursued this to its fullest and tried getting the cops suspended, which was my only goal. Their boss refused, so their (lawyer) tried to get us to agree on a monetary settlement. I said 50k and they agreed: 23K to the lawfirm, 27K for me. I have a feeling they would've accepted 100k too. They fucked up so bad. It was nice to get their boss as well as their apology in front of the lawyers though.
This is quite the development from the first story you gave. Cops would eat these conflicting stories up and put you away for a long time.
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I was usually the respectful one too. These cops had a stick up their ass about something and I wasn't going to push them. One of my friends in the car was asking questions and I could tell it was agitating the cops. I gave him a look that said, don't make this worse. We didn't have any drugs in the car or alcohol or on us. I wasn't a drug dealer nor was anyone I was with. I knew everyone I was with since junior high and am still friends with them. It was a weird experience. That many cops aren't usually necessary for a traffic stop. We hadn't even driven a half mile from the school before we were pulled over.
Similar circumstances as ours. Always happened when we were walking/riding mopeds across town. I kinda enjoyed it at first, getting to see the whole police process firsthand, knowing we were innocent of anything.
Pretty naive.
Eventually learned there was a whole lotta infraction shit ignorant teens would never consider, not including stuff frustrated cops would simply invent: "Saw you run that stop," "I smell weed," "Neighbor said someone was poking around," etc. Learned to keep a low-profile pretty damn quick.
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maybe if you stopped looking at texts in your car or stopped wearing flanell shirts these things wouldnt happen!!!
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That's my point. Shaking down working people. It's not about safety or law and order. It's just about money.
And you're back to being stupid. Cars on the road. Cars moving on the road. The laws are meant to service the people not the people the laws. When when the roads are deserted I feel like a moron waiting at a red light. And I mean deserted of cars driving on the road.
Another self righteous fuck, I'll bet a 100 bucks your a shit driver.
Your the same kinda guy that'll take no responability after running someone over.
You drive on public roads your suppose to drive like a actual fucking driver.
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One time I used my white privilege to make a CHP officer smile and crack jokes while writing me a speeding ticket for doing 88 in a 65
If I was a repressed minority he might have cut the banter short and just written me the ticket.
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if i was a cop id be fired in 2 weeks, i wouldnt mess with nobody for petty shit like not stopping fully at stop sign or going thru yellow lights ect, id end up beating the shit out of some assholes speeding thru neighborhoods where little kids play and/or where school buses are and those people just fly by not stopping when the school bus has his stop sign out. man oh man id pull them over and literally write them so many tickets their head would spin,id write tickets that havent even been voted to pass the law on. then id prolly tell them how fucking stupid they r and how they could easily kill a little innocent kid just by driving like an asshole,then when they said something smart to me id cuff them and bring them somewhere on a deserted country rode and pull their pants down and torture them by sticking objects in their anus,like pine cones,sticks,branches ect,ive really always wanted to have that power to torture people and have them begging me for their lives while i stand over them with a shotgun.i hate the human race anyway and i will get my revenge soon on them all
I like the way you think.
DUI's shoot involve breathlizers.
That is breathilizers of the cops to check O2 and sugar levels after brutally beating drunks.
Seriously driving drunk should be an automatically crippling.
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if i was a cop id be fired in 2 weeks, i wouldnt mess with nobody for petty shit like not stopping fully at stop sign or going thru yellow lights ect, id end up beating the shit out of some assholes speeding thru neighborhoods where little kids play and/or where school buses are and those people just fly by not stopping when the school bus has his stop sign out. man oh man id pull them over and literally write them so many tickets their head would spin,id write tickets that havent even been voted to pass the law on. then id prolly tell them how fucking stupid they r and how they could easily kill a little innocent kid just by driving like an asshole,then when they said something smart to me id cuff them and bring them somewhere on a deserted country rode and pull their pants down and torture them by sticking objects in their anus,like pine cones,sticks,branches ect,ive really always wanted to have that power to torture people and have them begging me for their lives while i stand over them with a shotgun.i hate the human race anyway and i will get my revenge soon on them all
You're a great guy. Seriously, I agree with this approach.
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No. What happened was that the cops, in the process of assaulting me, broke my left frontal incisor tooth as well as a nasty gash on my lip. They followed me to the restaurant I was going to to make sure I was telling them the truth. As soon as I got there my friends were waiting for me in front of the restaurant, the cops got out and asked my friends if they knew me. Initially, they were in shock because they though I'd gotten into a fight, but I told them what had happened. It took me at least 5 minutes, by which time one of the cops was getting mighty irritated. My lawyer friend went inside the restaurant to grab a piece of paper and a pen and came out to get names. One of the cops got in his face. Lawyer friend backs away and tells him that he is a corporate lawyer, cop comes down. My friend asks for his name, the cop tells him, literally, that he (my friend) is lucky not to get arrested, to which my friend replies "your boss will definitely be hearing from my firm".
Turns out their boss tried to get these cops off the hook. Their main issue was that 1. They refused to identify themselves and 2. Never called an ambulance even though I was in dire need of medical help.
My friend pursued this to its fullest and tried getting the cops suspended, which was my only goal. Their boss refused, so their (lawyer) tried to get us to agree on a monetary settlement. I said 50k and they agreed: 23K to the lawfirm, 27K for me. I have a feeling they would've accepted 100k too. They fucked up so bad. It was nice to get their boss as well as their apology in front of the lawyers though.
Great stuff. The money is nice I'm sure, but it's about demonstrating that citizens can--and will--stand up and hold the police accountable.
Sad that some people just blindly support the police no matter what they do. Even in this very thread, some people were getting mad at you for taking legal action against the police. Seems to me that they should be getting angry at the police officers who perpetrated this misconduct, not the citizen who didn't take it lying down.
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One time I used my white privilege to make a CHP officer smile and crack jokes while writing me a speeding ticket for doing 88 in a 65
If I was a repressed minority he might have cut the banter short and just written me the ticket.
Lol.
Back in my home province, cops are cool, they know I'm not remotely white trash-skeet, and generally get along all right.
However went to toronto last year and had a bit of culture shock. I was in a paki-jamiacan area, sitting on a bench at night(didn't realize it was a public schools property) Anyway fellar gives me all kinds of shit, couldn't even tell if my provincial ID was legit(apparently I'm suppose to have a passport to travel within my own country ::), treating me like I was some dirty foreigner.
Really pissed me off at the time.
A few months later I realized it was because only absolutely white trash would be caught dead in that area alone at night.
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This is quite the development from the first story you gave. Cops would eat these conflicting stories up and put you away for a long time.
Where is the "conflict"?
Please, do not misunderstand "to make a long story short" for something else.
And I got 50k from them.
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I have another story. I moved out of my house shortly before I turned sixteen. My brother, his girlfriend and I shared an apartment. I went to school during the day and I worked about 7:00 to 11:30 at night a couple days during the week and on weekends. I didn't have a car at the time so I had to hoof it home and practically every night a cop would pull up to me, ask me a load of questions, search me and then let me go. This went on for weeks. Eventually they would just flash their lights and wave at me or follow me for a bit and leave.
By chance I saw one of the cops at my job and we talked a little. I was glad I saw her because it proved I wasn't lying. She was laughing when she told me the cops were harassing me because they thought I was lying about walking home form work and I was actually a male prostitute. The area I walked through was a well known pick up spot. I was aware of this fact because beside the cops I had dudes pulling over and asking me if I was okay and needed a ride. I always declined. I didn't want to live out my days in someone's rape dungeon. This was before the days I knew about bodybuilding's seedy underbelly. If I knew then what I knew then I would have found the most sparkly pair of thongs I could find and made a few bucks.
Funny side story, one of the good samaritans who asked if I was okay and needed a ride was an administrator at my old school. I recognized him instantly because of his bad toupee. He didn't recognize me.
Ha! I got a similar one, but it's only a one-timer. Briefly moved to Belmont Shores (Long Beach, CA) to finish college. First day I was there, got my morning coffee/paper and drove to beach parking lot, which was completely empty. Ignored the meter 'cause it was so early and desolate - within five minutes, cop blocks me in, ticket pad out, knocking on my window.
Buried in my paper, I get kinda startled, tell him I'm sorry about meter, just pulled up. He looks a little confused, asks me what I'm doing. "Bowling," I say, "working the 7-10 split," as I show him my coffee and paper. He smiles, asks me if I'm local, and I tell him I just moved in same day. Puts his pad away and explains how meters are monitored STRICTLY to prevent loitering.
Then he explains Belmont Shores "loitering," which often involves a single man parking, waiting for another single man to pull up next to him, so they can share one car for 15-20 minutes. Oops. Get the picture, didn't know. "I'll read in my apartment," I tell him, and he lets me off with a warning. Welcome to Long Beach.
Soon saw said loitering daily, so I ended up studying at Huntington Beach instead. Crazy world.
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Ha! I got a similar one, but it's only a one-timer. Briefly moved to Belmont Shores (Long Beach, CA) to finish college. First day I was there, got my morning coffee/paper and drove to beach parking lot, which was completely empty. Ignored the meter 'cause it was so early and desolate - within five minutes, cop blocks me in, ticket pad out, knocking on my window.
Buried in my paper, I get kinda startled, tell him I'm sorry about meter, just pulled up. He looks a little confused, asks me what I'm doing. "Bowling," I say, "working the 7-10 split," as I show him my coffee and paper. He smiles, asks me if I'm local, and I tell him I just moved in same day. Puts his pad away and explains how meters are monitored STRICTLY to prevent loitering.
Then he explains Belmont Shores "loitering," which often involves a single man parking, waiting for another single man to pull up next to him, so they share one car for 15-20 minutes. Oops. Get the picture, didn't know. "I'll read in my apartment," I tell him, and he lets me off with a warning. Welcome to Long Beach.
Soon saw said loitering daily, so I ended up studying at Huntington Beach instead. Crazy world.
So did you ever find another man to share one car with for 15-30 minutes? ;D
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So did you ever find another man to share one car with for 15-30 minutes? ;D
Couldn't even walk by without getting propositioned. Told my girlfriend I'd only go near beach if she came with.
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Yes... they are. Regardless of circumstance, laws are laws. IF the situation was dire, I would disregard these laws, and if caught... I would hope the officer would show some slack (he likely would).
But you are just some creepo cruising around residential neighborhoods, at the wee hours of the morning, blowing through stop signs with little care for the mongrel children that likely are out committing crimes in any destitute neighborhood you would be likely to frequent.
"Yes...they are." You insist that laws are black and white "regardless of circumstance" and in the same breath you admit to exceptions if "dire".
You are not a clear thinker. That's why you are so easily led and bullied.
And now we've gone from rolling through a stop sign while making a right hand turn to "blowing through stop signs" in a "destitute neighborhood with mongrel children."
This destitute neighborhood is in the city of Kailua on the island of Oahu. The city Obama will be vacationing in a a week or so as he always does when he visits Hawaii. And I was coming back from work as I am working late nights on a temporary assignment on the Marine Corp Base Hawaii.
But as you get more desperate at being owned left and right and exposing yourself as a passive follower and weakling your rants and made up stories have reached meltdown proportions.
Carry on and continue to do what you're told
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people always think the police should be lenient on them
but come down on anyone they complain about
re the stop sign
the reason you have to have zero tolerance
is first you start not stopping fully at one in the moring when nobody is about
it then becomes a habit
you then cleam someone up because you have got in to the habit of not stoppping
its a stop sign, stop at it
problem solved
Zero tolerance has become a very popular concept in this country. And it's not surprise. It means you don't have to think. You don't have to make judgments. You don't have to consider the circumstances and context of the situation. You just blindly follow the rules and laws and not have to take any responsibility or leadership.
All of life is a matter of degrees. Taking some packs of Sweet n Low from a restaurant or cleaning out the cash register are both stealing but other than "visualperfection" no one, or rather no thinking person, would morally equate the two. I stopped at the stop sign but did not hit the "dead stop" as the law is written. I looked at a 4 word txt message while at a stop light. Just like I would look at my gas gauge. Not txting was attempted or done. But that merited a $300 fine. An amount arbitrarily arrived at. It could have been $60. It could have been $600. It's just whatever they decide and can get away with
And all actions are morally neutral. It is the context that defines it's morality. Cutting open a man's chest can be a brutal act of violence or a delicate surgical procedure. Knocking someone to the ground then jumping on top of him to drop some elbows can be an assault or part of a multi-million dollar sporting event.
This concept of "zero tolerance" is why a kid is expelled or suspended from school for having a plastic knife in his possession. The kind of knife you get when ordering a plate lunch. But a knife is a knife. That's the law. And it doesn't matter if it's a plastic lunch knife or a SOG six inch Tanto.
Lost is the concept of the spirit of the law or rule. Rules and laws are meant to serve us.
As an aside, I've never had this problem with the police. This seems to be particular to the city of Kailua. It's a White upper class city and there's constant pressure on the city government to raise revenue to maintain it's upper class status. The police dept has been called on in the past on abuse of authority in an attempt to raise revenue.
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He said he was with his kid so I don't think he is
Oh chit! ;D
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i grew up right where u where that day, when u where in independence park do u remember the high school(eastside high)?thats where i went to school.u where prolly going to eat on ferry street right? thats where all the great restaurants are located,most anyway. i used to hang out in that park and it was really bad back in the 70's and early 80's,gangs all over the place and fights all the time between blacks and italians/germans/polish dudes. they had a place called MUSCLE BEACH right near there,it was on a church steps where all the juiced up dudes hung out and talked about lifting and juice,i was very young(8 or 9) when i used to see them out there,they all looked built up pretty good and i knew in my heart i wanted to look like them from that moment on. as far as cop stories i got to many to count,one though that sticks out in my mind was when my buddy robbed a car(hotwired)while i watched out,anyway he starts taking to long and next thing i know cops came up on foot and arrested us,they took us down to port newark by the water and said they where going to shoot us and throw us in the water and thats it, i was 9 yrs old and i started begging them please let me go,im not gonna lie i was scared to death.they kept us there about 30min and then let us go,i think i pissed in my pants like 3 times in that 30 min.
Yes, parked on Van Vuren and Nichols (just talking about this intersection gives me the chills) and was on my way to Ferry Street. Some Portuguese restaurant I can't remember the name of. I, honestly, didn't know about the car theft issue in the area, otherwise I would've parked my car somewhere else. Or avoided Newark altogether.
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I just talked to a girl at Wild Wings yesterday who got pulled over for talking on her phone.....the cop said it was pretty original for just letting the phone go and letting it drop on the floor...she ADMITTED she was on the phone and she got a ticket for a Dream catcher hanging from her rear view mirror....all you need is boobs fellas!!
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X2.
I have been given warnings the last two times as well. The last time I was going 90 on the highway, and I noticed an unmarked pickup truck tailing me as I switched lanes to get away from slow drivers.
When he turned on his lights I thought I was fucked.
1. Always have your info readily available
2. Tell the truth. If you were speeding, admit that you were caught.
3. Don't look like a scared pussy. I noticed that the cop might be a redneck, so I made a joke that I thought he was getting a good draft off of me. It worked.
4. It helps if you are white or have tits. I happen to have both.
lol at the good draft part
im stealing that joke tp rge next time i get pulled over for speeding
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Ha! I got a similar one, but it's only a one-timer. Briefly moved to Belmont Shores (Long Beach, CA) to finish college. First day I was there, got my morning coffee/paper and drove to beach parking lot, which was completely empty. Ignored the meter 'cause it was so early and desolate - within five minutes, cop blocks me in, ticket pad out, knocking on my window.
Buried in my paper, I get kinda startled, tell him I'm sorry about meter, just pulled up. He looks a little confused, asks me what I'm doing. "Bowling," I say, "working the 7-10 split," as I show him my coffee and paper. He smiles, asks me if I'm local, and I tell him I just moved in same day. Puts his pad away and explains how meters are monitored STRICTLY to prevent loitering.
Then he explains Belmont Shores "loitering," which often involves a single man parking, waiting for another single man to pull up next to him, so they share one car for 15-20 minutes. Oops. Get the picture, didn't know. "I'll read in my apartment," I tell him, and he lets me off with a warning. Welcome to Long Beach.
Soon saw said loitering daily, so I ended up studying at Huntington Beach instead. Crazy world.
Hahaha. It's one disadvantage of being two handsome motherfuckers.
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Got involved in a drunken bar thing where my arm went through a plate glass window in the door. My buddy drove me away and I was a bloody mess. Got pulled over and bought into the station. The cop said the owner of the bar is going to be here any minute and she is mad. Tell her you will pay for everything in cash tomorrow morning and I won't arrest you. She comes in and he tells her he's going to pay for everything in the morning or I will have him behind bars. She says 10AM at the bar. I came with cash and apologized. The cops never came for me. Never forget that guy.
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"Yes...they are." You insist that laws are black and white "regardless of circumstance" and in the same breath you admit to exceptions if "dire".
You are not a clear thinker. That's why you are so easily led and bullied.
And now we've gone from rolling through a stop sign while making a right hand turn to "blowing through stop signs" in a "destitute neighborhood with mongrel children."
This destitute neighborhood is in the city of Kailua on the island of Oahu. The city Obama will be vacationing in a a week or so as he always does when he visits Hawaii. And I was coming back from work as I am working late nights on a temporary assignment on the Marine Corp Base Hawaii.
But as you get more desperate at being owned left and right and exposing yourself as a passive follower and weakling your rants and made up stories have reached meltdown proportions.
Carry on and continue to do what you're told
Being owned by you!?!? Haha, no. You're a delusional old fool, that considers himself a "free-thinker" due to crying openly about a stop sign ticket.
Zero tolerance has become a very popular concept in this country. And it's not surprise. It means you don't have to think. You don't have to make judgments. You don't have to consider the circumstances and context of the situation. You just blindly follow the rules and laws and not have to take any responsibility or leadership.
All of life is a matter of degrees. Taking some packs of Sweet n Low from a restaurant or cleaning out the cash register are both stealing but other than "visualperfection" no one, or rather no thinking person, would morally equate the two. I stopped at the stop sign but did not hit the "dead stop" as the law is written. I looked at a 4 word txt message while at a stop light. Just like I would look at my gas gauge. Not txting was attempted or done. But that merited a $300 fine. An amount arbitrarily arrived at. It could have been $60. It could have been $600. It's just whatever they decide and can get away with
And all actions are morally neutral. It is the context that defines it's morality. Cutting open a man's chest can be a brutal act of violence or a delicate surgical procedure. Knocking someone to the ground then jumping on top of him to drop some elbows can be an assault or part of a multi-million dollar sporting event.
This concept of "zero tolerance" is why a kid is expelled or suspended from school for having a plastic knife in his possession. The kind of knife you get when ordering a plate lunch. But a knife is a knife. That's the law. And it doesn't matter if it's a plastic lunch knife or a SOG six inch Tanto.
Lost is the concept of the spirit of the law or rule. Rules and laws are meant to serve us.
As an aside, I've never had this problem with the police. This seems to be particular to the city of Kailua. It's a White upper class city and there's constant pressure on the city government to raise revenue to maintain it's upper class status. The police dept has been called on in the past on abuse of authority in an attempt to raise revenue.
Stealing a sweet and low? I'm pretty sure those are free to take from the majority of place. Taking too many would be considered unsavory, sure, but a crime? No.
Lets say that stealing a packet of sweet and low, from a diner, was possible (let's say there is a 10 cent charge). NO, it would not be the same as cleaning out the cash register, one would be a petty theft, the other would be either a robbery, burglary, grand theft, vandalism if the register was broken open... etc etc. Another stupid analogy via "phallus".
And as for the morally neutral spiel, I give you a D- for you attempt to be somewhat intellectual, you old philosopher you.
In closing, you really are a dumb old piece of dogshit.
I assume you are relatively unsuccessful in life?
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Being owned by you!?!? Haha, no. You're a delusional old fool, that considers himself a "free-thinker" due to crying openly about a stop sign ticket.
Stealing a sweet and low? I'm pretty sure those are free to take from the majority of place. Taking too many would be considered unsavory, sure, but a crime? No.
Lets say that stealing a packet of sweet and low, from a diner, was possible (let's say there is a 10 cent charge). NO, it would not be the same as cleaning out the cash register, one would be a petty theft, the other would be either a robbery, burglary, grand theft, vandalism if the register was broken open... etc etc. Another stupid analogy via "phallus".
And as for the morally neutral spiel, I give you a D- for you attempt to be somewhat intellectual, you old philosopher you.
In closing, you really are a dumb old piece of dogshit.
I assume you are relatively unsuccessful in life?
Now that's a meltdown. The frantic posting, the frustration, the lame name calling ("Phallus"? Oh, I get it. My board name starts with a "P" and "Phallus" starts with a "P". It's going to take me while to recover from that one).
But that is the customary response when one is being systematically taken apart and really has no cogent response or argument.
Still not able to understand the concept of context defining a situation? You seem unable to project and extrapolate. You conflate morality with legality. Not all that is illegal is immoral and not all that is immoral is illegal. But our culture tends to think not in terms of right and wrong but legal and illegal. They are concerned less about what is the right thing to do but whether it's legal or not.
So I'll try to make my example more subject specific in hopes you will understand that there are gradations of evil. Gradations of right and wrong and though they may be in the same class it still merit a different response. If the speed limit is 30mph driving 35 mph is quite different than driving 45-50mph. But to you who insists that laws are black and white and that the "law is the law" they are both violations of the law and both be equally enforced with the only difference being the fine. The fact that a police officer's time is a resource that is limited is of no matter to you. The law is the law. The woman who parked in a handicapped stall for her own safety and convenience, a stall reserved for those patronizing a restaurant, a restaurant that was closed since it was 3am, deserved her ticket according to the black and white, the law is the law, thinking.
I believe the law is to serve the people not vice versa.
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Any entity or person in a position of authority, whether it be the government, a police office, or even a parent has to balance the need to maintain order and discipline while maintaining a sense of goodwill and that rules and laws are for one's own and society's benefit. When it becomes petty, overbearing, bullying... this inevitably breeds resentment, hostility and at times rebellion. There is always a delicate balance between freedom and safety/security. If the goal was to eliminate all crime we could do it in a month. Just become a police state. There was very little crime in the former Soviet Union. A journalist who traveled the world was asked what was the safest country he ever visited (this was about 10 yrs ago) and he said Syria. He dropped his wallet and found it still sitting untouched on the sidewalk when he retraced his steps. People were to afraid to touch it. People spy on each other. Their own kids are encourage to report their parents if they say anything bad or critical of the government. A police State is a safe State but at what expense of personal freedoms?
As I said before, this country was founded on freedom and liberty and escaping oppression and lack of class mobility. We've grown more and more complacent and taking these freedoms for granted and seem more willing to acquiesce to authority. This, perhaps not so coincidentally, coincides with the increasing militarization of law enforcement. Every house arrest now requires a SWAT team and police in masks and military garb.
A person in authority should use both discretion, common sense, and take into consideration the context and degree of the offense or violation.
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Any entity or person in a position of authority, whether it be the government, a police office, or even a parent has to balance the need to maintain order and discipline while maintaining a sense of goodwill and that rules and laws are for ones own and society's benefit. When it becomes petty, overbearing, bullying... this inevitably breeds resentment, hostility and at times rebellion. There is always a delicate balance between freedom and safety/security. If the goal was to eliminate all crime we could do it in a month. Just become a police state. There was very little crime in the former Soviet Union. A journalist who traveled the world was asked what was the safest country he ever visited (this was about 10 yrs ago) and he said Syria. He dropped his wallet and found it still sitting untouched on the sidewalk when he retraced his steps. People were to afraid to touch it. People spy on each other. Their own kids are encourage to report their parents if they say anything bad or critical of the government. A police State is a safe State but at what expense of personal freedoms?
As I said before, this country was founded on freedom and liberty and escaping oppression and lack of class mobility. We've grown more and more complacent and willing to acquiesce to authority. This, perhaps not so coincidentally, coincides with the increasing militarization of law enforcement. Every house arrest now requires a SWAT team and police in masks and military garb.
A person in authority should use both discretion, common sense, and take into consideration the context and degree of the offense or violation.
Nice post. As an aside, back in Stalin's Russia they couldn't find serial killers because such a person couldn't/ didn't exist. Such a thing was unheard of, so was *officially* off the books.
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Nice post. As an aside, back in Stalin's Russia they couldn't find serial killers because such a person couldn't/ didn't exist. Such a thing was unheard of, so was *officially* off the books.
Reminds of Trotsky, one of the first members of the Politburo, who fell out of favor for not being in full accord with the rise of Stalin, was essentially removed from Soviet history. Literally erased from all pictures though he was so influential during the early days of the Soviet Union and founding and being the commander of the Red Army.
"With Communism the future is certain, it's just the past that keeps changing."
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Yes! The Russian censored photo-op. ;D
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Any entity or person in a position of authority, whether it be the government, a police office, or even a parent has to balance the need to maintain order and discipline while maintaining a sense of goodwill and that rules and laws are for one's own and society's benefit. When it becomes petty, overbearing, bullying... this inevitably breeds resentment, hostility and at times rebellion. There is always a delicate balance between freedom and safety/security. If the goal was to eliminate all crime we could do it in a month. Just become a police state. There was very little crime in the former Soviet Union. A journalist who traveled the world was asked what was the safest country he ever visited (this was about 10 yrs ago) and he said Syria. He dropped his wallet and found it still sitting untouched on the sidewalk when he retraced his steps. People were to afraid to touch it. People spy on each other. Their own kids are encourage to report their parents if they say anything bad or critical of the government. A police State is a safe State but at what expense of personal freedoms?
As I said before, this country was founded on freedom and liberty and escaping oppression and lack of class mobility. We've grown more and more complacent and taking these freedoms for granted and seem more willing to acquiesce to authority. This, perhaps not so coincidentally, coincides with the increasing militarization of law enforcement. Every house arrest now requires a SWAT team and police in masks and military garb.
A person in authority should use both discretion, common sense, and take into consideration the context and degree of the offense or violation.
If I had authority here I'd only let you use one or two sentences per post...
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If I had authority here I'd only let you use one or two sentences per post...
Just made a list, buddy. >:(
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Any entity or person in a position of authority, whether it be the government, a police office, or even a parent has to balance the need to maintain order and discipline while maintaining a sense of goodwill and that rules and laws are for one's own and society's benefit. When it becomes petty, overbearing, bullying... this inevitably breeds resentment, hostility and at times rebellion. There is always a delicate balance between freedom and safety/security. If the goal was to eliminate all crime we could do it in a month. Just become a police state. There was very little crime in the former Soviet Union. A journalist who traveled the world was asked what was the safest country he ever visited (this was about 10 yrs ago) and he said Syria. He dropped his wallet and found it still sitting untouched on the sidewalk when he retraced his steps. People were to afraid to touch it. People spy on each other. Their own kids are encourage to report their parents if they say anything bad or critical of the government. A police State is a safe State but at what expense of personal freedoms?
As I said before, this country was founded on freedom and liberty and escaping oppression and lack of class mobility. We've grown more and more complacent and taking these freedoms for granted and seem more willing to acquiesce to authority. This, perhaps not so coincidentally, coincides with the increasing militarization of law enforcement. Every house arrest now requires a SWAT team and police in masks and military garb.
A person in authority should use both discretion, common sense, and take into consideration the context and degree of the offense or violation.
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years ago, was talked to by police about something i admit i did.. they came knocking on my door on a weekend night, pounding on it i might add even though i had a doorbell....anyway, i admitted doing what they were "investigating"... but i don't think it was a crime and told them that, and if it WAS a crime, i didnt' know it was and certainly wouldn't have done it... i was "seen" doing what i did by others....
police themselves knew it wasn't "technically" a crime, but thought i guess it was the precursor to one?....
anyway, THEY TREATED ME LIKE SHIT! you would have thought i was a murderer! i have/had no police record of criminal record of any kind before, during or since... the one officer called me names even after i admitted what i did and why i did it... guess they didn't believe me..... 2nd car pulls up and asks me the same questions over and over and over and over again... turns out? they were there for over 2 HOURS!.....
don't know if this true or urban myth, but a friend told me afterwards "you do realize that after a few minutes of admitting what you did and telling your story that you could have asked and said to them " are you pressing charges or arresting me?" if not, get off my property!"...the police have/had no right to interrogate you, call you names, treat you with the most dirty looks ever given to another human being FOR 2 HOURS AT YOUR HOME?!.......the thing is if this is true i don't know, but THEY, the POLICE KNEW!.....
i did think at the time "if this is how they treat people with no criminal record or history, how do they treat those who DO have history, bad history!!!!".... their attitude and how they treated me FAR FAR OUTWEIGHED IN MY OPINION WHAT I DID and IT WASN'T EVEN A CRIME IN THE FIRST PLACE! they just thought it could have quote "led to a crime being committed! and wanted to know why i did it!" (didn't know that was part of the equation, i mean they were not detectives but police officers!"
anyway after more then 2 hours, they (the 2 officers now) still thought i was lying (i admitted what i did at the very beginning!) because according to them "it didn't make sense" and told me they were going to investigate some more and get back to me within the week...
never heard or saw from them again....however, i will NEVER FORGET OR FORGIVE THEM for their utter disrespect and treatment of me...
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I got beaten by two policemen while I was already hand cuffed, wouldn't mind but that time I genuinley hadn't done anything.
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Silly. Never invite them in. Never talk to them. Never talk to them without a lawyer. Never talk to them.
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One time we were super stoned and had the serious munchies. We drove to Dolly's Delicious Donuts. As we pulled up we saw a piggy and his piggy partner walking out the front door. We waited until they got in their baconmoblie and split before we walked in.
When we walked in, to our horror, there was not a single fucking donut left in the entire fucking Dolly's Delicious Donut fucking store. The end.
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years ago, was talked to by police about something i admit i did.. they came knocking on my door on a weekend night, pounding on it i might add even though i had a doorbell....anyway, i admitted doing what they were "investigating"... but i don't think it was a crime and told them that, and if it WAS a crime, i didnt' know it was and certainly wouldn't have done it... i was "seen" doing what i did by others....
police themselves knew it wasn't "technically" a crime, but thought i guess it was the precursor to one?....
anyway, THEY TREATED ME LIKE SHIT! you would have thought i was a murderer! i have/had no police record of criminal record of any kind before, during or since... the one officer called me names even after i admitted what i did and why i did it... guess they didn't believe me..... 2nd car pulls up and asks me the same questions over and over and over and over again... turns out? they were there for over 2 HOURS!.....
don't know if this true or urban myth, but a friend told me afterwards "you do realize that after a few minutes of admitting what you did and telling your story that you could have asked and said to them " are you pressing charges or arresting me?" if not, get off my property!"...the police have/had no right to interrogate you, call you names, treat you with the most dirty looks ever given to another human being FOR 2 HOURS AT YOUR HOME?!.......the thing is if this is true i don't know, but THEY, the POLICE KNEW!.....
i did think at the time "if this is how they treat people with no criminal record or history, how do they treat those who DO have history, bad history!!!!".... their attitude and how they treated me FAR FAR OUTWEIGHED IN MY OPINION WHAT I DID and IT WASN'T EVEN A CRIME IN THE FIRST PLACE! they just thought it could have quote "led to a crime being committed! and wanted to know why i did it!" (didn't know that was part of the equation, i mean they were not detectives but police officers!"
anyway after more then 2 hours, they (the 2 officers now) still thought i was lying (i admitted what i did at the very beginning!) because according to them "it didn't make sense" and told me they were going to investigate some more and get back to me within the week...
never heard or saw from them again....however, i will NEVER FORGET OR FORGIVE THEM for their utter disrespect and treatment of me...
Too cryptic, Tom. Just f'n say it already.
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too cryptic, just say it already?.. i was explaining the whole situation, that's it.. i'm pretty sure there have been far longer postings already on this subject...
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One time we were super stoned and had the serious munchies. We drove to Dolly's Delicious Donuts. As we pulled up we saw a piggy and his piggy partner walking out the front door. We waited until they got in their baconmoblie and split before we walked in.
When we walked in, to our horror, there was not a single fucking donut left in the entire fucking Dolly's Delicious Donut fucking store. The end.
Store owner is lucky you weren't nigs. The shop would have been up in flames in no time.
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too cryptic, just say it already?.. i was explaining the whole situation, that's it.. i'm pretty sure there have been far longer postings already on this subject...
Not post length, the alleged crime. Why the mystery?
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Store owner is lucky you weren't nigs. The shop would have been up in flames in no time.
;D LOL!
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I tend to think that good cops far outnumber bad cops. Now, they ALL, whether good or bad, abuse their power onto the population they pretend to defend. I have yet to meet a person that does not have a bad experience with the police. My top two (personal) are as follows:
1. One day, some friends of mine and me went to a restaurant in Newark, NJ. Dropped them off at the restaurant while I went to look for parking. Finally parked my car on the SE side of Independence Park, while the restaurant I was going to was located 7-8 blocks northwest. Since I'd wasted 15 minutes looking for a parking spot I figured that cutting through the park was the best idea. WRONG. I was literally ran over by a cop car for "questioning". Had me in the hands-on-the-hood stance for 5 minutes while they asked me all kinds of questions about robbing a car. Little did they know one of my friends was a corporate lawyer. To make a long story short, I was compensated (27k) for my troubles by the City of Newark, the precinct police chief apologized to me in person and the cops involved (verbally) reprimanded (or so I've heard). Took 4 years though.
2. On my way to Montreal with wife and 3-year old, we get pulled over by NY state patrol. Guy tagged me for 2 miles, literally bumper-to-bumper, until I went past the 20 mph/4 points/$200 fine baseline. While pulled over, now in Chatham county, guy walks over and rudely asks me roll down the window, all the way down, which I refuse to do because it was January and it was cold. This ginny cop (TJ Esposito for all those interested) puts the light on me and then on my kid, who was asleep. After about 20 seconds of me saying "what are you doing?" (he was clearly trying to wake up my kid,) he asks me "do you know why I pulled you over?," to which I answered with "nope" and "any reason you tagged me for about 2 miles? I really, really felt threatened by the way you were driving". Cop walks away and comes back with Da Ticket (sure enough, it was a triple whammy). As soon as he hands me the ticket he proceeds to tell me that I have a choice to appear in court or not. I tell him "oh yes I will, my car has a camera installed in the back". Sure enough, my wife and I took off from work, went to court, with our kid, and presented the evidence to the "judge". Guy took 5 seconds to dismiss the summons, primarily because the cop did not show up, but also because the judge saw this cop driving recklessly just to get the other 2 points out of me. Eventually I wrote a multitude of letters to all of this guy's neighbors detailing the actions of this knucklehead (didn't get specific because I didn't want to give myself away). That must've freaked him the fuck out.
Now, what's your story?
You sound like a prick.
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Silly. Never invite them in. Never talk to them. Never talk to them without a lawyer. Never talk to them.
Best thing you can possibly respond when they ask "Sir, do you know why I pulled you over?"
"I want my fucking phone call"
Basically you leave them no where to go with that one.
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years ago, was talked to by police about something i admit i did.. they came knocking on my door on a weekend night, pounding on it i might add even though i had a doorbell....anyway, i admitted doing what they were "investigating"... but i don't think it was a crime and told them that, and if it WAS a crime, i didnt' know it was and certainly wouldn't have done it... i was "seen" doing what i did by others....
police themselves knew it wasn't "technically" a crime, but thought i guess it was the precursor to one?....
anyway, THEY TREATED ME LIKE SHIT! you would have thought i was a murderer! i have/had no police record of criminal record of any kind before, during or since... the one officer called me names even after i admitted what i did and why i did it... guess they didn't believe me..... 2nd car pulls up and asks me the same questions over and over and over and over again... turns out? they were there for over 2 HOURS!.....
don't know if this true or urban myth, but a friend told me afterwards "you do realize that after a few minutes of admitting what you did and telling your story that you could have asked and said to them " are you pressing charges or arresting me?" if not, get off my property!"...the police have/had no right to interrogate you, call you names, treat you with the most dirty looks ever given to another human being FOR 2 HOURS AT YOUR HOME?!.......the thing is if this is true i don't know, but THEY, the POLICE KNEW!.....
i did think at the time "if this is how they treat people with no criminal record or history, how do they treat those who DO have history, bad history!!!!".... their attitude and how they treated me FAR FAR OUTWEIGHED IN MY OPINION WHAT I DID and IT WASN'T EVEN A CRIME IN THE FIRST PLACE! they just thought it could have quote "led to a crime being committed! and wanted to know why i did it!" (didn't know that was part of the equation, i mean they were not detectives but police officers!"
anyway after more then 2 hours, they (the 2 officers now) still thought i was lying (i admitted what i did at the very beginning!) because according to them "it didn't make sense" and told me they were going to investigate some more and get back to me within the week...
never heard or saw from them again....however, i will NEVER FORGET OR FORGIVE THEM for their utter disrespect and treatment of me...
You're a whiny bitch.
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Best thing you can possibly respond when they ask "Sir, do you know why I pulled you over?"
"I want my fucking phone call"
Basically you leave them no where to go with that one.
Still getting the ticket, but now they'll add on shit they'd probably have let slide.
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Still getting the ticket.
Just be cordial and comply. You may get off with a warning or some uppity cop you gave the finger to while riding by may throw the book at you....you never know. ;D
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Just be cordial and comply. You may get off with a warning or some uppity cop you gave the finger to while riding by may throw the book at you....you never know. ;D
Good policy, always. Fight your shit in court, not on street.
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Still getting the ticket, but now they'll add on shit they'd probably have let slide.
That's when you respond, "Keep racking em up on me, dickhead"
And then he replies with, "Sir, I'm going to have to ask you to get out of the vehicle"
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That's when you respond, "Keep racking em up on me, dickhead"
And then he replies with, "Sir, I'm going to have to ask you to get out of the vehicle"
Oooh and that's the best time to tell him to fuck himself, you're not getting out of shit! And roll your window back up.
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Oooh and that's the best time to tell him to fuck himself, you're not getting out of shit! And roll your window back up.
Hi "Slapper"
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That's when you respond, "Keep racking em up on me, dickhead"
And then he replies with, "Sir, I'm going to have to ask you to get out of the vehicle"
Ah, ok. Well played.
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Lock this thread now..bunch of whiny babies!!! Oh I got searched,ticketed,etc for christsakes 2NYC cops were assisonated today..that is something to be upset about! Me for one..am loading the AR,and carrying 3 clips for the glock in my travels
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Lock this thread now..bunch of whiny babies!!! Oh I got searched,ticketed,etc for christsakes 2NYC cops were assisonated today..that is something to be upset about! Me for one..am loading the AR,and carrying 3 clips for the glock in my travels
Tell 'em, Bronson!
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Tell 'em, Bronson!
We've got some real hard asses on this site.
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We've got some real hard asses on this site.
Everyone is a tough guy posting from his Snuggie.
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Everyone is a tough guy posting from his Snuggie.
The Super Hero Snuggie, preferably.
(http://az686452.vo.msecnd.net/t-10174-snuggiestore/bf7118fdbf49452fb2d7db4f42356a95/i/manba4-300x300.jpg)
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Good policy, always. Fight your shit in court, not on street.
Good luck. Not justice.
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When I was young... they used to question me all the time. Random questioning and taking of information. It was some sort of program in my area. I heard about the "program" years later. They get young people's info. But if you didn't act like an ass... it wasn't a big deal. I never thought much about it until years later. So no big deal.
But, I had two bad ones:
I was just standing by a car in the parking lot... then a few cops come up to me all rude and nasty freaking out how I was trying to steal the car. They said that I was "checking doors." I wasn't! Just standing there. But it's crazy how in their mind they saw me "checking doors." Unless it's a trick they use... where they say "hey, I see you checking doors, boy!"
I said: "how could you have saw me when I wasn't. You are lying if you saw me... how can you see me doing what I wasn't doing?" "You are lying... you are lying." "I know you're lying... because I wasn't doing what you said you saw me doing."
Well... they didn't say anything and just left. So I guess there was nothing they could do. They were just fishing.
The same thing happened again on another occasion... only worse!!! I was sitting with my friend by a nice car. Next thing you know... an unmarked car comes barreling down the street; and at least 5 or 6 cops in full uniform come flying out. Rough us up... yelling and screaming... throwing us up against the car... making us spread our legs... frisking us and giving us the shake down.
They were accusing us of trying to "steal" the car. We told them that we were just sitting. My friend was crying (we were 14). Anyway, they took our info. and told us they were going to call our parents. They let us go and never called our parents. And told us that we shouldn't be sitting in parking lots and to smarten up and not be out so late... plus we shouldn't be hanging out here... yada yada yaya...
This treatment by Police is one thing I don't miss about being young.
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Good luck. Not justice.
Do what you feel is best, guy.
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When I was young... they used to question me all the time. Random questioning and taking of information. It was some sort of program in my area. I heard about the "program" years later. They get young people's info. But if you didn't act like an ass... it wasn't a big deal. I never thought much about it until years later. So no big deal.
But, I had two bad ones:
I was just standing by a car in the parking lot... then a few cops come up to me all rude and nasty freaking out how I was trying to steal the car. They said that I was "checking doors." I wasn't! Just standing there. But it's crazy how in their mind they saw me "checking doors." Unless it's a trick they use... where they say "hey, I see you checking doors, boy!"
I said: "how could you have saw me when I wasn't. You are lying if you saw me... how can you see me doing what I wasn't doing?" "You are lying... you are lying." "I know you're lying... because I wasn't doing what you said you saw me doing."
Well... they didn't say anything and just left. So I guess there was nothing they could do. They were just fishing.
The same thing happened again on another occasion... only worse!!! I was sitting with my friend by a nice car. Next thing you know... an unmarked car comes barreling down the street; and at least 5 or 6 cops in full uniform come flying out. Rough us up... yelling and screaming... throwing us up against the car... making us spread our legs... frisking us and giving us the shake down.
They were accusing us of trying to "steal" the car. We told them that we were just sitting. My friend was crying (we were 14). Anyway, they took our info. and told us they were going to call our parents. They let us go and never called our parents. And told us that we shouldn't be sitting in parking lots and to smarten up and not be out so late... plus we shouldn't be hanging out here... yada yada yaya...
This treatment by Police is one thing I don't miss about being young.
You sure you're not a car stealer, friend?
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Too cryptic, Tom. Just f'n say it already.
Let's just say it involved a couple brown paper bags, a white towel, a grapefruit, and an ice machine.
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LOL! tapeworm.. uh, no way off the mark buddy...
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Rhinos story reminds me one my dad told me. In the 70s way before I was born he was driving down the road past a high school in his 1966 Corvette and all of a sudden several cop cars pull him over. They are questioning him how such a young guy has such a nice car. Turns out the high school was recently robbed so they were keeping a close eye out and thought a young kid in a corvette looked suspicious.
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I tend to think that good cops far outnumber bad cops. Now, they ALL, whether good or bad, abuse their power onto the population they pretend to defend. I have yet to meet a person that does not have a bad experience with the police. My top two (personal) are as follows:
1. One day, some friends of mine and me went to a restaurant in Newark, NJ. Dropped them off at the restaurant while I went to look for parking. Finally parked my car on the SE side of Independence Park, while the restaurant I was going to was located 7-8 blocks northwest. Since I'd wasted 15 minutes looking for a parking spot I figured that cutting through the park was the best idea. WRONG. I was literally ran over by a cop car for "questioning". Had me in the hands-on-the-hood stance for 5 minutes while they asked me all kinds of questions about robbing a car. Little did they know one of my friends was a corporate lawyer. To make a long story short, I was compensated (27k) for my troubles by the City of Newark, the precinct police chief apologized to me in person and the cops involved (verbally) reprimanded (or so I've heard). Took 4 years though.
2. On my way to Montreal with wife and 3-year old, we get pulled over by NY state patrol. Guy tagged me for 2 miles, literally bumper-to-bumper, until I went past the 20 mph/4 points/$200 fine baseline. While pulled over, now in Chatham county, guy walks over and rudely asks me roll down the window, all the way down, which I refuse to do because it was January and it was cold. This ginny cop (TJ Esposito for all those interested) puts the light on me and then on my kid, who was asleep. After about 20 seconds of me saying "what are you doing?" (he was clearly trying to wake up my kid,) he asks me "do you know why I pulled you over?," to which I answered with "nope" and "any reason you tagged me for about 2 miles? I really, really felt threatened by the way you were driving". Cop walks away and comes back with Da Ticket (sure enough, it was a triple whammy). As soon as he hands me the ticket he proceeds to tell me that I have a choice to appear in court or not. I tell him "oh yes I will, my car has a camera installed in the back". Sure enough, my wife and I took off from work, went to court, with our kid, and presented the evidence to the "judge". Guy took 5 seconds to dismiss the summons, primarily because the cop did not show up, but also because the judge saw this cop driving recklessly just to get the other 2 points out of me. Eventually I wrote a multitude of letters to all of this guy's neighbors detailing the actions of this knucklehead (didn't get specific because I didn't want to give myself away). That must've freaked him the fuck out.
Now, what's your story?
Hey slapper..Just lookin at your picture you look like a real dirtball and probably deserve to bitch slapped by the cops, or anybody.
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Hey slapper..Just lookin at your picture you look like a real dirtball and probably deserve to bitch slapped by the cops, or anybody.
He always struck me as a real angry guy.