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Title: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 12, 2015, 02:26:22 PM
Fortunately, my yearly income was only 21k this year so Soul Crusher and Coach will be picking up most of the tab for about 235 dollars.  Thanks, Obama!!

(http://images.buddytv.com/usrimages/usr3358930/3358930_ricflair.jpg)
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Mr. MB on January 12, 2015, 02:38:10 PM
I'm on SSI plus a good Humana supplement which costs me about 230 a month.

My wife however came to Arizona some 10 years ago dragging along a California BCBS plan which had a Maternity clause in it. I tried everything I could to get BCBS of Arizona to rewrite but she had several back surgeries which were considered PREEXISTING. They refused to rewrite. Obama care has zero zip nadda pre existing as law EVEN IF you buy non Obama private insurance. I approached BCBS od AZ and they now kissed my ass and rewote her $450 per month cheeper and over $500 per month on scrips. That's $11,000 per year savings. I'm retired so thanks all you tax paying getbiggers for helping an old man out. I might even vote Democrat.....NOT.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: 20inch calves on January 12, 2015, 03:27:10 PM
Fortunately, my yearly income was only 21k this year so Soul Crusher and Coach will be picking up most of the tab for about 235 dollars.  Thanks, Obama!!

(http://images.buddytv.com/usrimages/usr3358930/3358930_ricflair.jpg)


Wow! 21k..business must be booming Vince. Do you have an Obama phone?
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: King Shizzo on January 12, 2015, 03:35:05 PM
Soul crusher must have gnawed his fingers off in anger.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Pray_4_War on January 12, 2015, 03:50:03 PM
Fortunately, my yearly income was only 21k this year so Soul Crusher and Coach will be picking up most of the tab for about 235 dollars.  Thanks, Obama!!

(http://images.buddytv.com/usrimages/usr3358930/3358930_ricflair.jpg)

In your job, do you have to ask people "do you want fries with that"?
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 12, 2015, 04:44:16 PM
Not exactly something to be proud of you financial genius.  $21k = $1750mo.

 - taxes (provided you even pay) - about $600.

- Rent, utilities (provided you even have electricity), tire's and propane for the ole casa  and assuming you're no actually a squatter (not the gym kind) - about $5 - $300.00

 - Gas an upkeep for the Gremlin - $20

- Insurance - $269

- Food - Looking at you I would say about $1200-$2000mo

So if you look at my little breakdown....you're fucked.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Tennisballz on January 12, 2015, 04:47:42 PM
Not exactly something to be proud of you financial genius.  $21k = $1750mo.

 - taxes (provided you even pay) - about $600.

- Rent, utilities (provided you even have electricity), tire's and propane for the ole casa  and assuming you're no actually a squatter (not the gym kind) - about $5 - $300.00

 - Gas an upkeep for the Gremlin - $20

- Insurance - $269

- Food - Looking at you I would say about $1200-$2000mo

So if you look at my little breakdown....you're fucked.
dont forget the cost of the huge stack he's on.  Judging by his pics he must take grams of gear.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 12, 2015, 04:53:31 PM

Wow! 21k..business must be booming Vince. Do you have an Obama phone?


Nah, I spend 10 bucks a month on BasicTalk and 40 dollars a month on Net10 unlimited.....all business write-off as is much of my expenses
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: The True Adonis on January 12, 2015, 05:00:36 PM
Not exactly something to be proud of you financial genius.  $21k = $1750mo.

 - taxes (provided you even pay) - about $600.

- Rent, utilities (provided you even have electricity), tire's and propane for the ole casa  and assuming you're no actually a squatter (not the gym kind) - about $5 - $300.00

 - Gas an upkeep for the Gremlin - $20

- Insurance - $269

- Food - Looking at you I would say about $1200-$2000mo

So if you look at my little breakdown....you're fucked.
Thats way too much to spend for one person.  Doesn`t make sense at all.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: K1RB on January 12, 2015, 05:03:51 PM
Fortunately, my yearly income was only 21k this year so Soul Crusher and Coach will be picking up most of the tab for about 235 dollars.  Thanks, Obama!!

(http://images.buddytv.com/usrimages/usr3358930/3358930_ricflair.jpg)
I officially hate you
How do you make 21k per year?
 Thats $10 per hour- How old are you?
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Irongrip400 on January 12, 2015, 05:06:57 PM
I'm on SSI plus a good Humana supplement which costs me about 230 a month.

My wife however came to Arizona some 10 years ago dragging along a California BCBS plan which had a Maternity clause in it. I tried everything I could to get BCBS of Arizona to rewrite but she had several back surgeries which were considered PREEXISTING. They refused to rewrite. Obama care has zero zip nadda pre existing as law EVEN IF you buy non Obama private insurance. I approached BCBS od AZ and they now kissed my ass and rewote her $450 per month cheeper and over $500 per month on scrips. That's $11,000 per year savings. I'm retired so thanks all you tax paying getbiggers for helping an old man out. I might even vote Democrat.....NOT.

Nobody cares about pre existing conditions anymore, that was part of the game once this new year started, all plans are on level playing field.  That's why most people, if you have decent insurance, it went up.  I am not really sure why the insurance companies decided to up their pricing though, as it would make sense to me to be more competitive and drop the prices.  The whole healthcare industry is a fucking scam.  Obama care plans reimburse for like 40%, so most doctors choose not to take it, while "real" insurance only reimburses 70%.  So, the dirtbag doctors up their prices to cover the difference in payment from the insurance companies, then right off the 30% as a loss.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 12, 2015, 05:11:57 PM
I officially hate you
How do you make 21k per year?
 Thats $10 per hour- How old are you?



I have a large number of write-offs which greatly reduces my income amount on my taxes.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: calfzilla on January 12, 2015, 05:12:43 PM
Wonder how many chicken breasts you can buy with 21k
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: SF1900 on January 12, 2015, 05:14:24 PM
Wonder how many chicken breasts you can buy with 21k

and flat screen tvs.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Walter Sobchak on January 12, 2015, 05:14:35 PM
Classic.

Coming on Getbig to brag about being a broke bitch.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 12, 2015, 05:14:53 PM
Thats way too much to spend for one person.  Doesn`t make sense at all.

sarcasm... ::)
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Irongrip400 on January 12, 2015, 05:16:55 PM
Classic.

Coming on Getbig to brag about being a broke bitch.

With 50 or so businesses, I'm sure he has some clever deductions.  I am surprised he shows that much income, given that he is essentially always selling something or doing something "business" related.  He probably writes off his time on get big as a loss, as he sees no revenue from it.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: SaintAnger on January 12, 2015, 05:17:33 PM
Vince, as Dave Ramsey would say, "you have a income crisis."

As Marcus Lemonis would say, "You are tripping over dollars to get to nickels."

Your insurance would normally cost you $3300/year.  Wouldn't you rather pay that with a much larger income?  I could see if your business is afloat with tons of cash, but I doubt it is.

You are doing everything else right, but you, my good sir, have an income crisis.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: G_Thang on January 12, 2015, 05:19:04 PM
Not exactly something to be proud of you financial genius.  $21k = $1750mo.

 - taxes (provided you even pay) - about $600.

- Rent, utilities (provided you even have electricity), tire's and propane for the ole casa  and assuming you're no actually a squatter (not the gym kind) - about $5 - $300.00

 - Gas an upkeep for the Gremlin - $20

- Insurance - $269

- Food - Looking at you I would say about $1200-$2000mo

So if you look at my little breakdown....you're fucked.

He lives in a trailer in the deep South, old mexican man.  

taxes - 500, so give him $100 back
rent - i've seen trailers sell for $10000 in louisiana.  it's peanuts if someone rents one.
utilities  - nothing. i rented a house when i was forfilling a 12 month contract in Terrobone a couple of years ago and paid $45 a month with AC running
food - 500 easy

he'll probably lives better than you in overpriced Lollipop Land.  
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: 20inch calves on January 12, 2015, 05:20:31 PM

I have a large number of write-offs which greatly reduces my income amount on my taxes.


Yeah I'm sure you dump alot of money in offshore accounts from ur multiple businesses. Vince don't back track we know you are poor
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Walter Sobchak on January 12, 2015, 05:22:53 PM

I have a large number of write-offs which greatly reduces my income amount on my taxes.

Oh, so now the topic has changed to AGI!

Broke
Dumb
Gay
Black

God sure does have a sense of humor.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 12, 2015, 05:25:34 PM
With 50 or so businesses, I'm sure he has some clever deductions.  I am surprised he shows that much income, given that he is essentially always selling something or doing something "business" related.  He probably writes off his time on get big as a loss, as he sees no revenue from it.

Well, according to my tax attorney once I switch over to an LLC this year that will pretty much end.  I'll prob spend about 150 a month on health insurance next year.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: DanielPaul on January 12, 2015, 05:25:48 PM
Fucking free loader, don't get used to it , it will not sustain itself for long
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Kwon_2 on January 12, 2015, 05:53:20 PM
Not exactly something to be proud of you financial genius.  $21k = $1750mo.

 - taxes (provided you even pay) - about $600.

- Rent, utilities (provided you even have electricity), tire's and propane for the ole casa  and assuming you're no actually a squatter (not the gym kind) - about $5 - $300.00

 - Gas an upkeep for the Gremlin - $20

- Insurance - $269

- Food - Looking at you I would say about $1200-$2000mo

So if you look at my little breakdown....you're fucked.

(http://oi58.tinypic.com/2z8zzma.jpg)
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: calfzilla on January 12, 2015, 05:55:37 PM
Write offs are misunderstood by lots of people and overrated. Bottom line is the guy only made 21k  :-\

And an LLC is totally unnecessary in his case from the info I know about his businesses and net worth.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Voice of Doom on January 12, 2015, 06:27:22 PM
Well, I'm happy to be subsidizing your healthcare costs.  Sadly, my family's yearly costs are 18k out of pocket before the mandated insurance monies kick in.  Because of that and as a 1099 contractor by family is currently without insurance using cash only doctors.  My family includes a 1 year old little girl...whom I'm sure doesn't mind going without so a grown man who is fully capable of earning a real living gets other people's tax dollars.

 
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: calfzilla on January 12, 2015, 06:30:48 PM
Well, I'm happy to be subsidizing your healthcare costs.  Sadly, my family's yearly costs are 18k out of pocket before the mandated insurance monies kick in.  Because of that and as a 1099 contractor by family is currently without insurance using cash only doctors.  My family includes a 1 year old little girl...whom I'm sure doesn't mind going without so a grown man who is fully capable of earning a real living gets other people's tax dollars.

 

Sounds like a super shitty plan. Do you have a super high income?  Not having health insurance can be financially very dangerous.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: gmflex on January 12, 2015, 06:33:01 PM
I pay $260.00
A month.. my employer covers the rest..
Family plan
Wife , son, and me  :)
85/15 medical coverage
Eye and dental also included..
Company paid life insurance...
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Army of One on January 12, 2015, 06:36:15 PM
Vince is living the dream, he is posting this up in case Vissy reads it and misses the good life.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: gmflex on January 12, 2015, 06:38:24 PM
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Mawse on January 12, 2015, 06:38:49 PM
Thanks for the schadenfreude Vince.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Walter Sobchak on January 12, 2015, 06:40:04 PM
Well, according to my tax attorney once I switch over to an LLC this year that will pretty much end.  I'll prob spend about 150 a month on health insurance next year.

Why is that moocher?

For U.S. federal income tax purposes, an LLC is treated by default as a pass-through entity.If there is only one member in the company, the LLC is treated as a “disregarded entity” for tax purposes, and an individual owner would report the LLC's income or loss on Schedule C of his or her individual tax return. Thus, income from the LLC is taxed at the individual tax rates.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: TheShape. on January 12, 2015, 06:47:37 PM
Vince you surely are a captain of industry
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: _aj_ on January 12, 2015, 06:49:47 PM
I think I paid out about $21K in tips last year.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: SF1900 on January 12, 2015, 06:49:58 PM
Vince is living the dream, he is posting this up in case Vissy reads it and misses the good life.

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: calfzilla on January 12, 2015, 06:51:25 PM
I think I paid out about $21K in tips last year.

Would love to be on the receiving end of one of your tips  :-*
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 12, 2015, 07:07:25 PM
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/2z8zzma.jpg)

They see me Rollin - they hatin!
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Kwon_2 on January 12, 2015, 07:22:15 PM
Fortunately, my yearly income was only 21k this year so Soul Crusher and Coach will be picking up most of the tab for about 235 dollars.  Thanks, Obama!!

(http://i.imgur.com/yN2ujeR.gif)
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: DanielPaul on January 12, 2015, 07:34:38 PM
For scum of the earth and cosmetics look no further folks.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: chaos on January 12, 2015, 07:55:21 PM
Who the fuck brags about making 21k a year ??? ::)
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: tonymctones on January 12, 2015, 07:59:01 PM
Who the fuck brags about making 21k a year ??? ::)
somebody whos friends make 15K a year...

him and 240 or bust must make a great pair at the dairy queen every afternoon
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Walter Sobchak on January 12, 2015, 08:01:08 PM
Who the fuck brags about making 21k a year ??? ::)

Wiggs
Shizzo
booty
Howard
240 is Black
LundrigenisBack
Little J
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 12, 2015, 08:11:49 PM
Fortunately, my yearly income was only 21k this year so Soul Crusher and Coach will be picking up most of the tab for about 235 dollars.  Thanks, Obama!!

(http://images.buddytv.com/usrimages/usr3358930/3358930_ricflair.jpg)

This is sad. I make more in a month than you do in a year and according to Strawman (the finance major) all I do is teach people how to flip tires. You have 21 business that average a $1000 a year.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: chaos on January 12, 2015, 08:23:18 PM
This is sad. I make more in a month than you do in a year and according to Strawman (the finance major) all I do is teach people how to flip tires. You have 21 business that average a $1000 a year.
Hey, 80 more businesses and he'll be doing great!
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 12, 2015, 08:52:01 PM
In all fairness to Vince, I'm sure he grossed around $32-35k
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: LittleJ on January 12, 2015, 09:12:01 PM
My new apt is just over 2k a month. I would be fucked on that kind of salary.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: G_Thang on January 12, 2015, 09:49:15 PM
I pay $260.00
A month.. my employer covers the rest..
Family plan
Wife , son, and me  :)
85/15 medical coverage
Eye and dental also included..
Company paid life insurance...


I work as an independent contractor, so I have to pay my own but a least I get a free car.  ::)
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: LittleJ on January 12, 2015, 09:51:32 PM
This is sad. I make more in a month than you do in a year and according to Strawman (the finance major) all I do is teach people how to flip tires. You have 21 business that average a $1000 a year.

Yes you're better than all of us.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 12, 2015, 10:01:13 PM
Yes you're better than all of us.

I didn't start a thread calling out Vince. He did. I just put things in perspective.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: SF1900 on January 12, 2015, 10:03:35 PM
Yes you're better than all of us.

 :D :D
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: ritch on January 12, 2015, 10:18:06 PM
too bad Obamacare can't make you "not suck"
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Quickerblade on January 12, 2015, 10:22:00 PM
I think I paid out about $21K in tips last year.

I spent 21k when i was in LA for 5 days.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: budgiesmuggler on January 12, 2015, 10:49:50 PM
Maybe America is the same as Australia now?  In Australia there is free health care tailor made for the unemployed and the retired.  It screws the working man over because we pay for them, and they contribute nothing.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Ropo on January 12, 2015, 11:25:03 PM
I officially hate you
How do you make 21k per year?
 Thats $10 per hour- How old are you?


It's not about the age, but about the race and being a dimwit black gay living in the slum, so it sounds a lot of money. I bet there is organ grinder monkeys who earns more than that  ;D
(http://www.dragonwings.net/images/OrganGrinderMonkey6041Web.jpg)
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Automation on January 13, 2015, 12:33:45 AM
What a pathetic troll....

I guess with such a shitty existence, acts of this nature are the highlight of your day.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on January 13, 2015, 12:58:41 AM
Fortunately, my yearly income was only 21k this year so Soul Crusher and Coach will be picking up most of the tab for about 235 dollars.  Thanks, Obama!!

(http://images.buddytv.com/usrimages/usr3358930/3358930_ricflair.jpg)
haha well done vince

i can see those two pulling their hair (soul crusher will pull his ears) and melting reading this


btw you said you said a week or so ago that your year was excellent buisnesswise....what is a bad year lål 2 dollars?
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Primemuscle on January 13, 2015, 01:30:57 AM
Fortunately, my yearly income was only 21k this year so Soul Crusher and Coach will be picking up most of the tab for about 235 dollars.  Thanks, Obama!!

(http://images.buddytv.com/usrimages/usr3358930/3358930_ricflair.jpg)

How does someone live on 21K a year these days?
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 13, 2015, 07:09:22 AM
haha well done vince

i can see those two pulling their hair (soul crusher will pull his ears) and melting reading this


btw you said you said a week or so ago that your year was excellent buisnesswise....what is a bad year lål 2 dollars?


Actually, this was an pretty awesome year....I sold a ton of product and invested a lot of it into new ventures
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: calfzilla on January 13, 2015, 07:26:35 AM
I spent 21k when i was in LA for 5 days.

How much of that was cab fare from LAX?
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Irongrip400 on January 13, 2015, 07:26:49 AM
I work as an independent contractor, so I have to pay my own but a least I get a free car.  ::)

What do you do? PM me if you don't want to put it out there.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Voice of Doom on January 13, 2015, 08:54:54 AM
Sounds like a super shitty plan. Do you have a super high income?  Not having health insurance can be financially very dangerous.

Agreed.  My income puts me way outside any subsidies.  I also pay cash as a political statement against obamacare.  The irony is that my job creates high wage jobs for lot of project teams in the HC industry and improves the medical systems that process that work.  You'd think that generating million dollar contracts alone would be enough 'contribution' from my family to the 'greater good' of society but I also get the bonus of subsidizing people like Vince through a high tax rate.
You'd be surprised how many doctors in Texas refuse obamacare plans and give good cash discounts.  Hopefully, we'll see some hospitals following suit.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 13, 2015, 09:23:36 AM
x

Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: chaos on January 13, 2015, 09:31:25 AM
Yes you're better than all of us.
Is that because he's white? Or because he's Christian?
Where are you going with this, little"racist muslim"J?
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on January 13, 2015, 09:32:01 AM

Actually, this was an pretty awesome year....I sold a ton of product and invested a lot of it into new ventures
good for you vince
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Thick Nick on January 13, 2015, 09:46:47 AM
Wait... What? I thought they sold this as "free" healthcare? Why would you or the tax payers have to pay anything? I feel so duped... I might file an official complaint about this.

And 21k you should be embarrassed... Wait NM on that too. I've see you in posing trunks. If that didn't embarrass you nothing will.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 13, 2015, 10:13:20 AM
Not exactly something to be proud of you financial genius.  $21k = $1750mo.

 - taxes (provided you even pay) - about $600.

- Rent, utilities (provided you even have electricity), tire's and propane for the ole casa  and assuming you're no actually a squatter (not the gym kind) - about $5 - $300.00

 - Gas an upkeep for the Gremlin - $20

- Insurance - $269

- Food - Looking at you I would say about $1200-$2000mo

So if you look at my little breakdown....you're fucked.


Rent 435 - Electric 60
Car Insurance - 240 dollars a year
Food - 30 dollars a week
Gas - 15 a week

Pwning you - Priceless ;D
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 13, 2015, 10:16:07 AM

Rent 435 - Electric 60
Car Insurance - 240 dollars a year
Food - 30 dollars a week
Gas - 15 a week

Pwning you - Priceless ;D

pretty cheap insurance fee for your Bentley Continental GT.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: SF1900 on January 13, 2015, 10:26:41 AM
pretty cheap insurance fee for your Bentley Continental GT.

(http://cdn2.holytaco.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/orange-pinto.jpg)
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 13, 2015, 10:55:02 AM

Rent 435 - Electric 60
Car Insurance - 240 dollars a year
Food - 30 dollars a week
Gas - 15 a week

Pwning you - Priceless ;D

"Pwning"??

What I see when I wake up every morning. (Hey, you went there when you called me out)



Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: SF1900 on January 13, 2015, 10:59:27 AM
Yes you're better than all of us.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: chaos on January 13, 2015, 11:59:38 AM

Rent 435 - Electric 60
Car Insurance - 240 dollars a year
Food - 30 dollars a week
Gas - 15 a week

Pwning you - Priceless ;D
"Pwning"?? You don't make enough money to own anything.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Henda on January 13, 2015, 12:02:51 PM
What is this "Obamacare" shit?
Free healthcare for coloured gentlemen?
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Primemuscle on January 13, 2015, 12:13:23 PM
My wife's and my Medicare advantage plan premiums actually went down about $20 a month each as did some of the copays. Primary care doctor copays are now $15 instead of $20 and specialists are $35 instead of $40. I assume this has something to do with Obamacare. Income is also a factor in premium costs for those of us who are retired and eligible for Medicare. If you make over $80,000 a year you pay a higher premium cost to Medicare. The base rate is about $105 a month, if I remember correctly.

My wife was recently in the hospital. I'll be getting a bill for the copays on her stay. Last year we spent nearly $9,000 out of pocket on medical expenses. Getting old is expensive. Keep this in mind and try to stay young.....let me know how this works out for you....ha, ha.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Powerlift66 on January 13, 2015, 12:43:06 PM
Coach is living the dream!

My insurance runs about $700.00 a month out of pocket for a family of 4.
I could have picked a cheaper plan, but you pay in the end anyways with the higher co-pays, less things covered, etc.

It is, what it is... Whatever man...
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: bears on January 13, 2015, 12:49:07 PM

Rent 435 - Electric 60
Car Insurance - 240 dollars a year
Food - 30 dollars a week
Gas - 15 a week

Pwning you - Priceless ;D

this post is the absolute apex of lib stupidity. 

you understand if you were to make $20K more a year what would happen?  you'd still be lower middle class, you wouldn't qualify for almost all of the credits for health care insurance, and you'd make too much for most government assistance programs.  you could double your income and be in the same spot you are in now, maybe in an even worse spot. 

you're blatantly showing how the government is incentivizing you to stay poor.  fucking idiots.  no wonder this country is going to shit.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: bears on January 13, 2015, 12:51:17 PM

Rent 435 - Electric 60
Car Insurance - 240 dollars a year
Food - 30 dollars a week
Gas - 15 a week

Pwning you - Priceless ;D

all arguments aside.  $30 a week on food?  i'm having hunger pains just reading that.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Mawse on January 13, 2015, 12:53:39 PM
Jesus Vince, I can't even laugh at you without feeling uncomfortable - you don't think that posting about living in abject poverty is 'owning' anyone but yourself?

Get a real job and some self respect
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 13, 2015, 12:55:52 PM
Coach is living the dream!

My insurance runs about $700.00 a month out of pocket for a family of 4.
I could have picked a cheaper plan, but you pay in the end anyways with the higher co-pays, less things covered, etc.

It is, what it is... Whatever man...

What is you deductible? Like I said in another thread, we're getting railed for $1223.00 for a family of 3. That's for catastrophic $6000/$12000. I think I'm going to have to reassess before this period ends.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 13, 2015, 01:01:50 PM
All bullshit aside here. Vince, $269.00 on $1750mo income seems a little pricy with the other expenses. I get thats your income after deductions but not after expenses. Unless you're eating Ramen morning, noon and night $120mo for food doesn't seem right. 
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: calfzilla on January 13, 2015, 01:04:06 PM
All bullshit aside here. Vince, $269.00 on $1750mo income seems a little pricy with the other expenses. I get thats your income after deductions but not after expenses. Unless you're eating Ramen morning, noon and night $120mo for food doesn't seem right. 

But he only pays about $60 for the insurance. Tax payers pay $235.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 13, 2015, 01:05:43 PM
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Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 13, 2015, 01:10:58 PM
But he only pays about $60 for the insurance. Tax payers pay $235.

Wait, what?? What part of that did I miss? Are you serious?
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: calfzilla on January 13, 2015, 01:16:25 PM
Wait, what?? What part of that did I miss? Are you serious?

Read his original post  ;)
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: SF1900 on January 13, 2015, 01:20:53 PM
Read his original post  ;)

yup

21k this year so Soul Crusher and Coach will be picking up most of the tab for about 235 dollars.  Thanks, Obama!!

Tax payers will be picking up the tab of 235 and he will pay the rest.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 13, 2015, 01:36:22 PM
All bullshit aside here. Vince, $269.00 on $1750mo income seems a little pricy with the other expenses. I get thats your income after deductions but not after expenses. Unless you're eating Ramen morning, noon and night $120mo for food doesn't seem right. 

Yes, its the income after deductions....otherwise it would be around 45k.  Next year, I'll really get socked
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 13, 2015, 01:38:12 PM
Another lazy liberal we have to carry.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 13, 2015, 01:38:56 PM
all arguments aside.  $30 a week on food?  i'm having hunger pains just reading that.


I've already explained my methods for saving big on food.  Simply put together a list of all the companies you buy at the supermarket and write them a letter saying that you love to buy their products but they've gotten too expensive to where you would need to consider other options.  They will almost always send you non-expiring coupons that you can copy and print and use at stores.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 13, 2015, 01:40:04 PM
 ;D

Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Powerlift66 on January 13, 2015, 01:40:16 PM
What is you deductible? Like I said in another thread, we're getting railed for $1223.00 for a family of 3. That's for catastrophic $6000/$12000. I think I'm going to have to reassess before this period ends.

Coach, Ill need to check, it isn't much though... Though no one has had any major sickness.
My employer pays for 1/2 of the plan, the reason why it's 700.00 a month for me. They are footing 1/2 of the bill...
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 13, 2015, 01:42:56 PM

I've already explained my methods for saving big on food.  Simply put together a list of all the companies you buy at the supermarket and write them a letter saying that you love to buy their products but they've gotten too expensive to where you would need to consider other options.  They will almost always send you non-expiring coupons that you can copy and print and use at stores.

I feel lucky that I don't have to live like this. What a miserable life.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: 240 is Back on January 13, 2015, 01:46:43 PM
Another lazy liberal we have to carry.

Vince seems like a hard worker to me.   He runs many online businesses, he's hustling 24/7, starting businesses and doing the radio show thing.

How can you possibly call him a lazy liberal?   That's just wrong. 
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 13, 2015, 01:47:47 PM
Vince seems like a hard worker to me.   He runs many online businesses, he's hustling 24/7, starting businesses and doing the radio show thing.

How can you possibly call him a lazy liberal?   That's just wrong. 

agreed. Goodrum is poor, but not lazy.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: tonymctones on January 13, 2015, 01:49:50 PM

I've already explained my methods for saving big on food.  Simply put together a list of all the companies you buy at the supermarket and write them a letter saying that you love to buy their products but they've gotten too expensive to where you would need to consider other options.  They will almost always send you non-expiring coupons that you can copy and print and use at stores.
vince you seriously don't have any issues with asking for assistance you don't need?
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: che on January 13, 2015, 01:51:16 PM
Vince seems like a hard worker to me.   He runs many online businesses, he's hustling 24/7, starting businesses and doing the radio show thing.

How can you possibly call him a lazy liberal?   That's just wrong. 
 

I agree  , The Coach is an  elitist POS
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: SF1900 on January 13, 2015, 01:51:43 PM
Vince seems like a hard worker to me.   He runs many online businesses, he's hustling 24/7, starting businesses and doing the radio show thing.

How can you possibly call him a lazy liberal?   That's just wrong. 

Remember, if you're not living on a beach front, then you're automatically a lazy failure.  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 13, 2015, 01:51:47 PM
agreed. Goodrum is poor, but not lazy.


I'm not poor.  I'm actually creative with my expenses.  With the home I'm going to build soon, my yearly expenses will not even be over 1000 dollars.  

Making money is one thing but investing and spending is another thing.  I didn't ask for a tax credit on my health insurance but I'd be a fucking moron if I didn't take it....after all, I pay a shitload of taxes so I would like some return on my investment
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Walter Sobchak on January 13, 2015, 01:53:08 PM

I've already explained my methods for saving big on food.  Simply put together a list of all the companies you buy at the supermarket and write them a letter saying that you love to buy their products but they've gotten too expensive to where you would need to consider other options.  They will almost always send you non-expiring coupons that you can copy and print and use at stores.

I'm not sure which part is more pathetic, the lying or the begging.

No wonder this fucker is so miserable.

Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 13, 2015, 01:53:48 PM
This thread absolutely proves my point about what I've been saying all along about people (mostly lazy liberals) who feel that they have this sense of entitlement to not work or work hard enough to get ahead but instead live off the hard work of others. It's people like Vince who have no dignity and brag about how he's fucked over others whether he wants to believe it or not.

Sorry Vince, what you've posted is nothing to be proud of. For Christ's sake you're in your 40's and still haven't found your way through life. The fact you PM'd me specifically to lead my to this thread proves it. I had this same conversation with a poster on here through FB about something similar. It's good to know I still hold my principals and I was right.

Go flip some burgers Vince.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: che on January 13, 2015, 01:54:16 PM

I'm not poor.  I'm actually creative with my expenses.  With the home I'm going to build soon, my monthly expenses will not even be over 1000 dollars.  

Making money is one thing but investing and spending is another thing.  I didn't ask for a tax credit on my health insurance but I'd be a fucking moron if I didn't take it....after all, I pay a shitload of taxes so I would like some return on my investment

Fixed
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: 240 is Back on January 13, 2015, 01:54:20 PM
agreed. Goodrum is poor, but not lazy.

I think it's disgusting that he'd call Vince "lazy".   Vince is always hustling up new ideas, growing new businesses.  He works VERY hard.  I think that kind of judgmental attitude is just wrong.  He disagrees with Vince's politics, so suddenly vince is "lazy"?  Or vince doesn't make as much, so he's "lazy"?

Fcuuked up thing to say.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: tonymctones on January 13, 2015, 01:55:40 PM
Vince seems like a hard worker to me.   He runs many online businesses, he's hustling 24/7, starting businesses and doing the radio show thing.

How can you possibly call him a lazy liberal?   That's just wrong.  
Bc there are many other ways for him to not take from others but he chooses not to utilize them...

You don't think Vince could find employment doing something that he doesn't need govt assistance to live off of?
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Walter Sobchak on January 13, 2015, 01:56:04 PM
 

I agree  , The Coach is an  elitist POS

Apparently a hard working, self-motivated, wealthy, elitist POS.

Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 13, 2015, 01:56:11 PM
 

I agree  , The Coach is an  elitist POS

Because I work hard enough to not sponge off of others...what ever you say sister.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 13, 2015, 01:57:55 PM

I'm not poor.  I'm actually creative with my expenses.  With the home I'm going to build soon, my yearly expenses will not even be over 1000 dollars.  

Making money is one thing but investing and spending is another thing.  I didn't ask for a tax credit on my health insurance but I'd be a fucking moron if I didn't take it....after all, I pay a shitload of taxes so I would like some return on my investment

please tell us more about what kind of home this is.  :)
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Walter Sobchak on January 13, 2015, 01:58:45 PM
I think it's disgusting that he'd call Vince "lazy".   Vince is always hustling up new ideas, growing new businesses.  He works VERY hard.  I think that kind of judgmental attitude is just wrong.  He disagrees with Vince's politics, so suddenly vince is "lazy"?  Or vince doesn't make as much, so he's "lazy"?

Fcuuked up thing to say.

He's not a hard worker, he is a fucking scam artist.

Every day Goodrum has another get rich scheme that fails.

Suckling off the teat of government programs.

Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: SF1900 on January 13, 2015, 01:58:50 PM
Bc there are many other ways for him to not take from others but he chooses not to utilize them...

You don't think Vince could find employment doing something that he doesn't need govt assistance to live off of?

If Vince wanted to find gainful employment, he would most likely have to move. He lives in Sylva, NC with a population of 2,435 people. Not many job opportunities.

When I lived in a small town in NH for 3-4 years, so many people traveled to Boston for work. They had to. No real jobs in the small town.

I guess Vince does not want to live Sylvan and is just trucking by.

I am not him, so I can't say. Its just a hypothesis.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Walter Sobchak on January 13, 2015, 02:02:49 PM
If Vince wanted to find gainful employment, he would most likely have to move. He lives in Sylva, NC with a population of 2,435 people. Not many job opportunities.

When I lived in a small town in NH for 3-4 years, so many people traveled to Boston for work. They had to. No real jobs in the small town.

I guess Vince does not want to live Sylvan and is just trucking by.

I am not him, so I can't say. Its just a hypothesis.

Or......

He is a lazy son of a bitch who is happy to live off government assistance.

It's also just a hypothesis.   ::)
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 13, 2015, 02:03:11 PM
If Vince wanted to find gainful employment, he would most likely have to move. He lives in Sylva, NC with a population of 2,435 people. Not many job opportunities.

When I lived in a small town in NH for 3-4 years, so many people traveled to Boston for work. They had to. No real jobs in the small town.

I guess Vince does not want to live Sylvan and is just trucking by.

I am not him, so I can't say. Its just a hypothesis.

Goodrum, what do you have to say about the above quote?
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 13, 2015, 02:04:56 PM
I think it's disgusting that he'd call Vince "lazy".   Vince is always hustling up new ideas, growing new businesses.  He works VERY hard.  I think that kind of judgmental attitude is just wrong.  He disagrees with Vince's politics, so suddenly vince is "lazy"?  Or vince doesn't make as much, so he's "lazy"?

Fcuuked up thing to say.

Why is it disgusting? Anyone with any dignity wouldn't come on an brag about fucking people over then saying he's not poor? Are we to assume that he's just fucking over the system to better himself?
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: SF1900 on January 13, 2015, 02:05:14 PM
Or......

He is a lazy son of a bitch who is happy to live off government assistance.

It's also just a hypothesis.   ::)

Well, no. I mean, how many jobs do you think are offered in a town of 2,300 people? Do you think there are as many jobs in Sylva, NC as there are in New York City or Los Angeles?  ::) ::)

You do realize that one of the main reason why people leave small towns is for job opportunities, right?

I am not saying this is an excuse. I am just stating that it's unrealistic to think that vince is going to find a gainful job in sylva, nc. He'd probably have to move. But he chose to live there, so that is on him.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 13, 2015, 02:07:39 PM
Ok, so now he says he's going to build a home but can't pay anymore than $60 for insurance because he doesn't make enough. Sounds like he's scamming the system.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Walter Sobchak on January 13, 2015, 02:08:18 PM
Well, no. I mean, how many jobs do you think are offered in a town of 2,300 people? Do you think there are as many jobs in Sylva, NC as there are in New York City or Los Angeles?  ::) ::)

I am not saying this is an excuse. I am just stating that it's unrealistic to think that vince is going to find a gainful job in sylva, nc. He'd probably have to move. But he chose to live there, so that is on him.

Sure, because no successful professional person works from a remote location right?

 ::)
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 13, 2015, 02:10:15 PM
Apparently a hard working, self-motivated, wealthy, elitist POS.



I wish I were wealthy. lol
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: King Shizzo on January 13, 2015, 02:11:24 PM
please tell us more about what kind of home this is.  :)
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Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: SF1900 on January 13, 2015, 02:11:45 PM
Sure, because no successful professional person works from a remote location right?

 ::)


Keep digging yourself into a ditch.  :D :D

Yes, because a poor guy from Sylva, NC is going to be a top executive for Goldman Sachs, conducting all of his business from his remote location in Sylva, NC.   ::) ::) Yup, brilliant.  ::) ::)

The only way Vince is going to make more than $21,000 a year is to move to a better location with more jobs. Unfortunately, he most likely does not have the know-how to conduct business remotely. No one is going to hire him for that lol. Lets be realistic here.  :D :D

And yes, there are people working from a remote location, who are successful, just not some poor guy living in a trailer without a college education. Be realistic.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: tonymctones on January 13, 2015, 02:12:57 PM
Well, no. I mean, how many jobs do you think are offered in a town of 2,300 people? Do you think there are as many jobs in Sylva, NC as there are in New York City or Los Angeles?  ::) ::)

You do realize that one of the main reason why people leave small towns is for job opportunities, right?

I am not saying this is an excuse. I am just stating that it's unrealistic to think that vince is going to find a gainful job in sylva, nc. He'd probably have to move. But he chose to live there, so that is on him.
You hit the nail on the head with your last sentence. He chooses to live there, that's all that matters.

He is certainly free to make that choice but what myself and others take exception with is he is making it part of our problem with that choice. We shouldn't have to pay for people who choose not to make a decent living only those that cannot.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: SF1900 on January 13, 2015, 02:16:18 PM
You hit the nail on the head with your last sentence. He chooses to live there, that's all that matters.

He is certainly free to make that choice but what myself and others take exception with is he is making it part of our problem with that choice. We shouldn't have to pay for people who choose not to make a decent living only those that cannot.

Exactly. He chose to.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 13, 2015, 02:17:36 PM
Guys, wouldn't you also stay in Sylva if there was a slight chance a certain cross eyed hairdresser would suddenly beg you to take him back?
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: tonymctones on January 13, 2015, 02:18:03 PM
Exactly. He chose to.
Exactly and we shouldn't have to pay for a person who chooses not make enough money to cover their basic needs
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: LittleJ on January 13, 2015, 02:18:31 PM
Is that because he's white? Or because he's Christian?
Where are you going with this, little"racist muslim"J?

I'm going nowhere with this cone "head" chaos ::)
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: che on January 13, 2015, 02:19:55 PM
Republican mentality , '' I make more money than you , therefore I work harder than you ''  ::)
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 13, 2015, 02:24:23 PM
Keep digging yourself into a ditch.  :D :D

Yes, because a poor guy from Sylva, NC is going to be a top executive for Goldman Sachs, conducting all of his business from his remote location in Sylva, NC.   ::) ::) Yup, brilliant.  ::) ::)

The only way Vince is going to make more than $21,000 a year is to move to a better location with more jobs. Unfortunately, he most likely does not have the know-how to conduct business remotely. No one is going to hire him for that lol. Lets be realistic here.  :D :D

That doesn't make sense. I know plenty of people who travel out side of their town/city to work or that have businesses. It doesn't matter if you go from a big town to a big city or small town to a more populated area. It's a matter of how bad you want it.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 13, 2015, 02:26:05 PM
Republican mentality , '' I make more money than you , therefore I work harder than you ''  ::)

Better than the freeloader mentality.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: SF1900 on January 13, 2015, 02:26:14 PM
That doesn't make sense. I know plenty of people who travel out side of their town/city to work or that have businesses. It doesn't matter if you go from a big town to a big city or small town to a more populated area. It's a matter of how bad you want it.

ok cool.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 13, 2015, 02:27:56 PM
I said this in another thread. It used to be people were ashamed to say they were on assistance and couldn't wait to get off to be a productive part of society. Now it's like a fucking badge of honor. 
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 13, 2015, 02:34:17 PM
You hit the nail on the head with your last sentence. He chooses to live there, that's all that matters.

He is certainly free to make that choice but what myself and others take exception with is he is making it part of our problem with that choice. We shouldn't have to pay for people who choose not to make a decent living only those that cannot.


Lets be serious folks....while I made the comment about Coach and Soul Crusher picking up the tab, I only did it to get a rise out of them.  The truth is that I pay a boatload of taxes every year because I run a business and work a regular job and that far exceeds any actual benefit I'll see from it and more than your average person would pay.

Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: tonymctones on January 13, 2015, 02:36:11 PM
That doesn't make sense. I know plenty of people who travel out side of their town/city to work or that have businesses. It doesn't matter if you go from a big town to a big city or small town to a more populated area. It's a matter of how bad you want it.
Yup I currently drive an hour to work in the morning and an hour home every night
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: tonymctones on January 13, 2015, 02:37:15 PM

Lets be serious folks....while I made the comment about Coach and Soul Crusher picking up the tab, I only did it to get a rise out of them.  The truth is that I pay a boatload of taxes every year because I run a business and work a regular job and that far exceeds any actual benefit I'll see from it and more than your average person would pay.


How much do you pay in taxes every year Vince?
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: tonymctones on January 13, 2015, 02:39:30 PM
Republican mentality , '' I make more money than you , therefore I work harder than you ''  ::)
Well the probability is that we do make more than you bc we work harder...it has nothing to to with being a rep or dem
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: che on January 13, 2015, 02:43:07 PM
Well the probability is that we do make more than you bc we work harder...it has nothing to to with being a rep or dem
I bet you do , fucking idiot ::)
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: SF1900 on January 13, 2015, 02:44:09 PM
I'm going nowhere with this cone "head" chaos ::)

damn cone head.  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 13, 2015, 02:44:57 PM
I'm out of this thread. Vince, keep doing what you're doing.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: SF1900 on January 13, 2015, 02:46:43 PM
Yup I currently drive an hour to work in the morning and an hour home every night

If you read my previous post, I did state that I lived in a small town in NH and many people drove to Boston for their job.

I never said this was not an option.

I am not vince, so I cannot say.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: tonymctones on January 13, 2015, 02:47:01 PM
I bet you do , fucking idiot ::)
Hahah nothing to be so upset over boss, as much as people try to say it doesn't hard work pays off.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: tonymctones on January 13, 2015, 02:49:04 PM
If you read my previous post, I did state that I lived in a small town in NH and many people drove to Boston for their job.

I never said this was not an option.

I am not vince, so I cannot say.
I'm not saying you did. You played Devils advocate for whatever reason and gave what really isn't an excuse as his potential reasoning for not getting a job where he is self sustaining.

That is why the comments are directed at you, not bc you think he is justified in his actions.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 13, 2015, 02:49:53 PM
How much do you pay in taxes every year Vince?

I generally pay on average 28% in taxes from my personal income and then I have taxes on revenue I generate from my business ventures.  Next year, I'll have to pay taxes for revenue I'm making abroad as I now operate a business based in China
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: bears on January 13, 2015, 02:51:03 PM
Hahah nothing to be so upset over boss, as much as people try to say it doesn't hard work pays off.

the new generation of entitled children simply don't believe that.  they think that they should be handed a living because life isn't fair.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Army of One on January 13, 2015, 02:51:23 PM
I generally pay on average 28% in taxes from my personal income and then I have taxes on revenue I generate from my business ventures.  Next year, I'll have to pay taxes for revenue I'm making abroad as I now operate a business based in China

Lol, keep the gems coming
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: bears on January 13, 2015, 02:52:19 PM
I generally pay on average 28% in taxes from my personal income and then I have taxes on revenue I generate from my business ventures.  Next year, I'll have to pay taxes for revenue I'm making abroad as I now operate a business based in China

you're in that bracket and you get a credit for your health care insurance? 
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: tonymctones on January 13, 2015, 02:59:58 PM
I generally pay on average 28% in taxes from my personal income and then I have taxes on revenue I generate from my business ventures.  Next year, I'll have to pay taxes for revenue I'm making abroad as I now operate a business based in China
Dollar amount Vincent?
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: SaintAnger on January 13, 2015, 03:05:42 PM
Coach is so transparent.  Clearly the dude has right wing radio waves pumped into his hearing aid.
 
Coach, you act as if Vince (and guys like him) are taking money from YOU directly.  Don't you realize how small of an impact "free loaders" have on your life?

You need to relax, before you die of a stroke.  We need you around, since your types are the job producers and all!   ;D
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 13, 2015, 03:08:32 PM
you're in that bracket and you get a credit for your health care insurance? 


Yes, because I'm paying back a government student loan and I get credit for the payments....that's part of the reason my filed income is 21k.  Because its almost paid off along with other factors, I won't be able to get a tax credit next year as I'll simply will not be able to no longer use certain deduction in addition to the amount of money I'm bringing in for my business.  

Its a good thing because I want to buy a new Jaguar and buy some property in the area
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: tonymctones on January 13, 2015, 03:10:14 PM

Yes, because I'm paying back a government student loan and I get credit for the payments....that's part of the reason my filed income is 21k.  Because its almost paid off along with other factors, I won't be able to get a tax credit next year as I'll simply will not be able to no longer use certain deduction in addition to the amount of money I'm bringing in for my business. 

Its a good thing because I want to buy a new Jaguar and buy some property in the area
You mean you get credit for the interest right? I haven't heard of getting tax credits for actual student loan payments
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 13, 2015, 03:12:13 PM
vince you seriously don't have any issues with asking for assistance you don't need?


Assistance???  its nothing more than using your resources.  Companies love giving discounts and coupons to influence sales.

Try it sometime...or better yet check out my experimental Grocery Savings website I'm working on ;D

http://grocery.goodrumgroup.com/
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Army of One on January 13, 2015, 03:12:50 PM
Vince has business interests in Tokyo, China
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Walter Sobchak on January 13, 2015, 03:13:34 PM
Keep digging yourself into a ditch.  :D :D

Yes, because a poor guy from Sylva, NC is going to be a top executive for Goldman Sachs, conducting all of his business from his remote location in Sylva, NC.   ::) ::) Yup, brilliant.  ::) ::)

The only way Vince is going to make more than $21,000 a year is to move to a better location with more jobs. Unfortunately, he most likely does not have the know-how to conduct business remotely. No one is going to hire him for that lol. Lets be realistic here.  :D :D

And yes, there are people working from a remote location, who are successful, just not some poor guy living in a trailer without a college education. Be realistic.

Well if he doesn't know how to conduct business remotely and no one is going to hire him based on his current skill set, education, intelligence, or aptitude.....then his employment problem sure as hell isn't because of his geographical location.

So which ditch exactly am I digging myself into?

I get it, you're always the guy who takes the counter-point position, so I will be blunt about Goodrum.

In the immortal words of Dean Wormer, fat, broke, lazy, gay, and dumb are no way to go through life son.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Kwon_2 on January 13, 2015, 03:17:23 PM
Venom Vincenzo Versace aka The BitCoin Bedlam, Head Executive of the Dubai, India Branch of B-PO.

The Beepollen Behemoth, soon to be The Go-To Brand for Beepollen, Kale Greens and Refined Sea Salt.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Costanza on January 13, 2015, 03:19:04 PM
I generally pay on average 28% in taxes from my personal income and then I have taxes on revenue I generate from my business ventures.  Next year, I'll have to pay taxes for revenue I'm making abroad as I now operate a business based in China

Wise thinking outsourcing Vince, what line of business is this?
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 13, 2015, 03:19:54 PM
Coach is so transparent.  Clearly the dude has right wing radio waves pumped into his hearing aid.
 
Coach, you act as if Vince (and guys like him) are taking money from YOU directly.  Don't you realize how small of an impact "free loaders" have on your life?

You need to relax, before you die of a stroke.  We need you around, since your types are the job producers and all!   ;D

The last line I LOL'd  ;D
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: SF1900 on January 13, 2015, 03:26:26 PM
Well if he doesn't know how to conduct business remotely and no one is going to hire him based on his current skill set, education, intelligence, or aptitude.....then his employment problem sure as hell isn't because of his geographical location.

So which ditch exactly am I digging myself into?

I get it, you're always the guy who takes the counter-point position, so I will be blunt about Goodrum.

In the immortal words of Dean Wormer, fat, broke, lazy, gay, and dumb are no way to go through life son.

It is and it isn't. Moving to a different location may open up more job opportunities, but it probably won't open up lucrative job opportunities for someone like Goodrum. I never stated that moving to a major city would make vince a millionaire. I just stated that there would be more jobs.

For example, it's obvious that NYC or Los Angeles has more gyms than Sylva, NC. With that in mind, maybe Vince can be the assistant manager of a gym, since he is a certified personal trainer. However, moving to a bigger city doesn't mean that Vince is going to be a top executive of goldman sachs. so, yes, moving may open up more opportunities, but its obviously still dependent on his skill set.

Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: bears on January 13, 2015, 03:37:09 PM
You mean you get credit for the interest right? I haven't heard of getting tax credits for actual student loan payments

yes you are allowed a student loan interest deduction.  it's an above the line deduction.  so your tax rate is determined after you've taken that deduction into account.  but I still don't see how a guy in the 28% tax bracket is allowed a credit for health insurance.  I am in that bracket.  I have student loans (not big ones though).  I am not allowed any sort of credit.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Walter Sobchak on January 13, 2015, 03:39:23 PM
It is and it isn't. Moving to a different location may open up more job opportunities, but it probably won't open up lucrative job opportunities for someone like Goodrum. I never stated that moving to a major city would make vince a millionaire. I just stated that there would be more jobs.

For example, it's obvious that NYC or Los Angeles has more gyms than Sylva, NC. With that in mind, maybe Vince can be the assistant manager of a gym, since he is a certified personal trainer. However, moving to a bigger city doesn't mean that Vince is going to be a top executive of goldman sachs. so, yes, moving may open up more opportunities, but its obviously still dependent on his skill set.


Bigger city = more skilled applicants and more competition for the better jobs.

So, if you're lazy and society's lowest common denominator in Sylva, you're going to get eaten alive in NYC or LA.

You're missing the point that Goodrum either can't cope on a level playing field, or that he finds regular jobs like the one you've noted beneath him.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: bears on January 13, 2015, 03:39:28 PM

Yes, because I'm paying back a government student loan and I get credit for the payments....that's part of the reason my filed income is 21k.  Because its almost paid off along with other factors, I won't be able to get a tax credit next year as I'll simply will not be able to no longer use certain deduction in addition to the amount of money I'm bringing in for my business.  

Its a good thing because I want to buy a new Jaguar and buy some property in the area

if your filed income is 21K, you're not in the 28% bracket.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: bears on January 13, 2015, 03:40:42 PM
if your filed income is 21K, (if by "filed income" you mean AGI is 21K) you're not in the 28% bracket.

Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: 240 is Back on January 13, 2015, 04:00:59 PM
This thread absolutely proves my point about what I've been saying all along about people (mostly lazy liberals) who feel that they have this sense of entitlement to not work or work hard enough to get ahead but instead live off the hard work of others. It's people like Vince who have no dignity and brag about how he's fucked over others whether he wants to believe it or not.

Vince is still getting screwed by obamacare like the rest of his.  His financial burden is less, but that's because he's following the law established by our leaders.  Bitch about them, not about vince.

Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 13, 2015, 04:05:34 PM
yes you are allowed a student loan interest deduction.  it's an above the line deduction.  so your tax rate is determined after you've taken that deduction into account.  but I still don't see how a guy in the 28% tax bracket is allowed a credit for health insurance.  I am in that bracket.  I have student loans (not big ones though).  I am not allowed any sort of credit.



I've not completed or filed taxes yet but you have to file for health insurance before the 15th of January.  I only placed in an estimate of my income but I was taxed at a 28% rate on my personal income
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: 240 is Back on January 13, 2015, 04:10:54 PM
Bc there are many other ways for him to not take from others but he chooses not to utilize them...

You don't think Vince could find employment doing something that he doesn't need govt assistance to live off of?

obamacare sucks ass - but what should Vince do here?   Tell obama, "Hey, here's an extra $200 a month"? 

He's paying what the govt tells him he has to.

And coach, there's a guy named Mitt Romney that pays much more taxes than you.  Can he call you "lazy" cause you're paying less than him?  Of course not.  You're both paying what the govt legally tells you to pay.

I'm shocked you'd treat another human being like this. 
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Walter Sobchak on January 13, 2015, 04:14:10 PM
I'm shocked you'd treat another human being like this. 

First post in the thread set the tone.

The "$21,000 Man" called out Coach, not the other way around.

 ::)

Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: bears on January 13, 2015, 04:27:21 PM

I've not completed or filed taxes yet but you have to file for health insurance before the 15th of January.  I only placed in an estimate of my income but I was taxed at a 28% rate on my personal income

to me it sounds like you make a lot more than you put on the obamacare website.  when you prepare your 2014 return you're going to have to file and 8962 and most probably pay all of that credit back. 

because again, if you're in the 28% bracket you make too much to get an Obamacare credit for health insurance. 
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Howard on January 13, 2015, 04:43:07 PM
Nobody cares about pre existing conditions anymore, that was part of the game once this new year started, all plans are on level playing field.  That's why most people, if you have decent insurance, it went up.  I am not really sure why the insurance companies decided to up their pricing though, as it would make sense to me to be more competitive and drop the prices.  The whole healthcare industry is a fucking scam.  Obama care plans reimburse for like 40%, so most doctors choose not to take it, while "real" insurance only reimburses 70%.  So, the dirtbag doctors up their prices to cover the difference in payment from the insurance companies, then right off the 30% as a loss.

The Insurance lobby and HMO investors love Obama care.
The  actual  docs don't make more with it, and there is no restrictions on hospital costs/patient billing.

The tax payers are forced to subsidize low income folk's health care.
HMO's get more paying customers and the middle class pays...as usual, regardless of dem or GOP in office.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: The True Adonis on January 13, 2015, 05:01:58 PM
Why don`t you guys leave Vince alone and stop worrying about this nonsense.  Most of you are morons anyways.  SF1900 is the only one with any real insight and the only point I would ask him to reconsider is the "he chose to live there" part.

A lot of people are in situations, no fault of their own, or even if its their own fault- a hard and long way out form their current position.  People just can`t be expected to up and leave at the drop of a hat and double or quadruple their income.


Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Howard on January 13, 2015, 05:12:21 PM
Why don`t you guys leave Vince alone and stop worrying about this nonsense.  Most of you are morons anyways.  SF1900 is the only one with any real insight and the only point I would ask him to reconsider is the "he chose to live there" part.

A lot of people are in situations, no fault of their own, or even if its their own fault- a hard and long way out form their current position.  People just can`t be expected to up and leave at the drop of a hat and double or quadruple their income.


 

Good reply. I actually like Vince and spent many earlier years living on meager terms.
I'm actually glad a good dude like Goodrum got a decent deal on healthcare.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: tonymctones on January 13, 2015, 05:27:24 PM
yes you are allowed a student loan interest deduction.  it's an above the line deduction.  so your tax rate is determined after you've taken that deduction into account.  but I still don't see how a guy in the 28% tax bracket is allowed a credit for health insurance.  I am in that bracket.  I have student loans (not big ones though).  I am not allowed any sort of credit.

LOL thats what I was getting at, I am in the 33% tax bracket and I dont pay that much on average. If you do the math vince would need to be making around $400K a year to achieve an average federal tax rate of 28%.

$48,434 for taxes on income up to $186K
$65,505 for taxes on income above $186K up to $405K (33% tax rate on anything over $198K)
Total taxes of $113,939 on income of $405K
113,939/405,000 = 28.12%

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2013/10/31/irs-announces-2014-tax-brackets-standard-deduction-amounts-and-more/

and thats before deductions, if he is taking deductions his income would obviously need to be higher to still get that same amount.

Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: tonymctones on January 13, 2015, 05:29:14 PM
Why don`t you guys leave Vince alone and stop worrying about this nonsense.  Most of you are morons anyways.  SF1900 is the only one with any real insight and the only point I would ask him to reconsider is the "he chose to live there" part.

A lot of people are in situations, no fault of their own, or even if its their own fault- a hard and long way out form their current position.  People just can`t be expected to up and leave at the drop of a hat and double or quadruple their income.
who is talking about doubling or quadrupling their income, we are talking about not taking money from others when you have the ability to provide for yourself....very different things
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Dave D on January 13, 2015, 05:53:55 PM
I've got to hand it to Vincent,  he's been trolling the Internet for years.  I used to think he was mentally slow but as the years have gone by Ive realized most of what he posts is for his amusement.

He's an Internet pioneer.  He's made himself a "legend/celebrity" in the bodybuilding industry despite the lack of physical genetics to pursue such status through normal means. 

I have an inkling that others, like Shizzo, aspire to follow in these footsteps.
Somewhere the earth trembles as onlyme is rolling in his grave.
The jokes always been on us.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Walter Sobchak on January 13, 2015, 06:00:56 PM
Why don`t you guys leave Vince alone and stop worrying about this nonsense.  Most of you are morons anyways.  SF1900 is the only one with any real insight and the only point I would ask him to reconsider is the "he chose to live there" part.

A lot of people are in situations, no fault of their own, or even if its their own fault- a hard and long way out form their current position.  People just can`t be expected to up and leave at the drop of a hat and double or quadruple their income.


Spoken like a true brain dead liberal. We should just "stop worrying about this nonsense".

I mean, it's only "us" that are paying for these social programs that these deadbeats have no trouble taking advantage of.

TA, this thread is about hard work and success, neither of which you have he first clue about. So back to the kitchen now Princess, those floors need scrubbing.

Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: The True Adonis on January 13, 2015, 06:24:39 PM
Spoken like a true brain dead liberal. We should just "stop worrying about this nonsense".

I mean, it's only "us" that are paying for these social programs that these deadbeats have no trouble taking advantage of.

TA, this thread is about hard work and success, neither of which you have he first clue about. So back to the kitchen now Princess, those floors need scrubbing.


You are one delusional and pathetic fool.  Why aren`t you making well into six figures?  Huh?  Are you a lazy pathetic piece of shit?  I bet you are.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: The True Adonis on January 13, 2015, 06:29:19 PM
The amusing thing about this entire thread is the complacency with respect to healthcare costs as if the rest of the world does the same. 
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Walter Sobchak on January 13, 2015, 06:44:01 PM
You are one delusional and pathetic fool.  Why aren`t you making well into six figures?  Huh?  Are you a lazy pathetic piece of shit?  I bet you are.

And how do you know I'm not?

Don't be upset that Obama jilted you brain dead libs at the altar. Your failures in life Adam are because you have no social skills and a piss poor education resulting in a crap job.

But hey, the upside is you're ugly, feminine,  and substandard to real men in society, but you hate football and make a half decent wife around the house.

Don't cry, that bowl haircut may come back in style soon.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 13, 2015, 06:57:54 PM
You are one delusional and pathetic fool.  Why aren`t you making well into six figures?  Huh?  Are you a lazy pathetic piece of shit?  I bet you are.

I couldn't careless how much Vince makes or doesn't make. It is what it is. But when he starts a thread with my name in it stating that he's paying only $60 based on $21k of income and and people like myself, Soul Crusher and others are picking up the rest of the tab, then turns around and says he actually made a lot more that tells me he's working the system. Didn't he say something about building a home?
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Dave D on January 13, 2015, 07:33:08 PM
I couldn't careless how much Vince makes or doesn't make. It is what it is. But when he starts a thread with my name in it stating that he's paying only $60 based on $21k of income and and people like myself, Soul Crusher and other, then turns around and says he actually made a lot more that tells me he's working the system. Didn't he say something about building a home?

Relax bro.

The land he owns is his through adverse possession, completely legal. The past 7 years Vince has been maintaining a 4 acre parcel that had gone into foreclosure.  While the bank was bidding it's time to trap some poor sucker into a 30 year mortgage Vincent quietly went to work with the upkeep on the property.  With documentation of his labor, efforts and time the bank was left with no legal option.

Obtaining the building materials is relatively simple as Vincent is getting the home built mostly through non expiring, easily duplicated complimentary coupons from lumber yards. Often times these places discard perfectly fine construction grade materials for cosmetic reasons. They're more than happy to have someone take this stuff off their hands, and the company gets a right off for full retail.

Any other wood needed can be acquired via discarded popsicle sticks and tongue depressers. Although thin once stacked they have the tensile strength of titanium.

All concrete needs are obtained through his new Chinese contacts. Getting that stuff shipped here is exponentially cheaper than buying it out right.  

Due to lax laws on inmate work release programs, and apprentice plumbers/electrician/drywallers needing hours, all the work will be done pro bono.

Because its in state Im sure  he can get the great Falconer to donate time to oversee and offer advice.

The only real out of pocket cost will be the permits; so as you can see this McMansion is being built on the cheap for next to nothing.
Insurance will be the only other expense, because while it didn't cost much to build a fire or another disaster will reward him handsomely.
No laws broken, no systems cheated.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Vince B on January 13, 2015, 07:51:46 PM
I call bullshit. Goodrum won't build a home or ever own a gym. All talk and the guy can bullshit all day and night long. He doesn't have a job that we know of so what does that leave him to live on?

That $21000 figure is probably exaggerated as well. If he had that income he would own a larger TV than he does and long ago and not some months ago. All those internet businesses are manufactured pipedreams.

None are successful. Radio show and discussion forums = fail.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Dave D on January 13, 2015, 07:59:34 PM
I call bullshit. Goodrum won't build a home or ever own a gym. All talk and the guy can bullshit all day and night long. He doesn't have a job that we know of so what does that leave him to live on?

That $21000 figure is probably exaggerated as well. If he had that income he would own a larger TV than he does and long ago and not some months ago. All those internet businesses are manufactured pipedreams.

None are successful. Radio show and discussion forums = fail.

It's pretty simple and cheap just read this:
Relax bro.

The land he owns is his through adverse possession, completely legal. The past 7 years Vince has been maintaining a 4 acre parcel that had gone into foreclosure.  While the bank was bidding it's time to trap some poor sucker into a 30 year mortgage Vincent quietly went to work with the upkeep on the property.  With documentation of his labor, efforts and time the bank was left with no legal option.

Obtaining the building materials is relatively simple as Vincent is getting the home built mostly through non expiring, easily duplicated complimentary coupons from lumber yards. Often times these places discard perfectly fine construction grade materials for cosmetic reasons. They're more than happy to have someone take this stuff off their hands, and the company gets a right off for full retail.

Any other wood needed can be acquired via discarded popsicle sticks and tongue depressers. Although thin once stacked they have the tensile strength of titanium.

All concrete needs are obtained through his new Chinese contacts. Getting that stuff shipped here is exponentially cheaper than buying it out right. 

Due to lax laws on inmate work release programs, and apprentice plumbers/electrician/drywallers needing hours, all the work will be done pro bono.

Because its in state Im sure  he can get the great Falconer to donate time to oversee and offer advice.

The only real out of pocket cost will be the permits; so as you can see this McMansion is being built on the cheap for next to nothing.
Insurance will be the only other expense, because while it didn't cost much to build a fire or another disaster will reward him handsomely.
No laws broken, no systems cheated.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: ritch on January 13, 2015, 08:22:28 PM
Relax bro.

The land he owns is his through adverse possession, completely legal. The past 7 years Vince has been maintaining a 4 acre parcel that had gone into foreclosure.  While the bank was bidding it's time to trap some poor sucker into a 30 year mortgage Vincent quietly went to work with the upkeep on the property.  With documentation of his labor, efforts and time the bank was left with no legal option.

Obtaining the building materials is relatively simple as Vincent is getting the home built mostly through non expiring, easily duplicated complimentary coupons from lumber yards. Often times these places discard perfectly fine construction grade materials for cosmetic reasons. They're more than happy to have someone take this stuff off their hands, and the company gets a right off for full retail.

Any other wood needed can be acquired via discarded popsicle sticks and tongue depressers. Although thin once stacked they have the tensile strength of titanium.

All concrete needs are obtained through his new Chinese contacts. Getting that stuff shipped here is exponentially cheaper than buying it out right.  

Due to lax laws on inmate work release programs, and apprentice plumbers/electrician/drywallers needing hours, all the work will be done pro bono.

Because its in state Im sure  he can get the great Falconer to donate time to oversee and offer advice.

The only real out of pocket cost will be the permits; so as you can see this McMansion is being built on the cheap for next to nothing.
Insurance will be the only other expense, because while it didn't cost much to build a fire or another disaster will reward him handsomely.
No laws broken, no systems cheated.

Holy shit you know the in's and out's of that guy, lol!!!

If all that is true, then it is pretty genius.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Dave D on January 13, 2015, 08:30:14 PM
Holy shit you know the in's and out's of that guy, lol!!!

If all that is true, then it is pretty genius.

 ;)
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 13, 2015, 08:46:53 PM
Holy shit you know the in's and out's of that guy, lol!!!

If all that is true, then it is pretty genius.

I've got to admit that's one of the most well thought out posts I've read on here in a loooong time. (Tongue depressers and Popsicle sticks..lol)
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: ritch on January 13, 2015, 08:47:58 PM
I've got to admit that's one of the most well thought out posts I've read on here in a loooong time. (Tongue depressers and Popsicle sticks..lol)

that had me laughing big time as well, lol...
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: The True Adonis on January 13, 2015, 09:03:00 PM
And how do you know I'm not?

Don't be upset that Obama jilted you brain dead libs at the altar. Your failures in life Adam are because you have no social skills and a piss poor education resulting in a crap job.

But hey, the upside is you're ugly, feminine,  and substandard to real men in society, but you hate football and make a half decent wife around the house.

Don't cry, that bowl haircut may come back in style soon.
You aren`t making shit.  Not near as much as people I know, certainly not near as much as I make.  Do I gloat about it?  No.  

My question to you is why aren`t you making more than you should be, loser.

And my point is, everything is relative.  Don`t fault Vince or anyone for that matter when you are far from being at the top of the food chain.  You are nothing but a peon yourself in comparison to the income spectrum (if you measure yourself by your net income as you do) and there are tons of circles you couldn`t get accepted in because of your low social standing.

But you want to point the finger.  As if you are someone that matters.  You don`t.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Vince B on January 13, 2015, 09:12:19 PM
Goodrum knows every scam in the book and then some. Years ago he swore that his bank manager was licking his lips in anticipation of Melvin getting some minority group loan to build a facility on Indian reserve.

Needless to say that enterprise never started. He posts here to impress the Flotsam and gullible. Keith and I called him out as did many others. No gym, clinic, spa, nothing. All bullshit including claims he

did personal training from home. The truth is the local gym didn't want him as a member. Or some such story. That is why he trained at home on some Pilates crap and built a similar physique.

I will give credit where it is due. So far all we can congratulate him on is having a 32 inch flat screen TV. He boasts about going off the grid and all manner of hip things but he lives in a basement probably

on welfare.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Walter Sobchak on January 13, 2015, 09:33:01 PM
You aren`t making shit.  Not near as much as people I know, certainly not near as much as I make.  Do I gloat about it?  No.  

My question to you is why aren`t you making more than you should be, loser.

And my point is, everything is relative.  Don`t fault Vince or anyone for that matter when you are far from being at the top of the food chain.  You are nothing but a peon yourself in comparison to the income spectrum (if you measure yourself by your net income as you do) and there are tons of circles you couldn`t get accepted in because of your low social standing.

But you want to point the finger.  As if you are someone that matters.  You don`t.

You don't make shit income-wise, why carry on with the charade Muffin man? You're a self important blowhard that huffed and puffed on Obama cock twice and now you look like even more of a fool. You've been given the world on a silver platter and all you've accomplished is to look like a blonde Moe Howard in skinny jeans living paycheck to paycheck.

I can "fault Vince" all I want. He is a lazy, lying scam artist who revels in the fact that he cheats more deserving people out of social program monies because he's too fucking lazy to go out and get a real job. It's ironic that you and Goodrum both see yourself as being above menial work, yet you're easily two of the biggest social losers on the board.

Now go finishing scrubbing the kitchen floor before your wife slaps you so hard you end up looking like a fat Mike Katz....
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: lightweight on January 13, 2015, 09:43:59 PM
Serious question.. I made $29k last year and I'm self employed.  The cheapest insurance for me was $160 per month.  How are you getting it for $35?? Because I'm making $8k more I have to pay over 4 times as much?
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: The True Adonis on January 13, 2015, 11:52:08 PM
You don't make shit income-wise, why carry on with the charade Muffin man? You're a self important blowhard that huffed and puffed on Obama cock twice and now you look like even more of a fool. You've been given the world on a silver platter and all you've accomplished is to look like a blonde Moe Howard in skinny jeans living paycheck to paycheck.

I can "fault Vince" all I want. He is a lazy, lying scam artist who revels in the fact that he cheats more deserving people out of social program monies because he's too fucking lazy to go out and get a real job. It's ironic that you and Goodrum both see yourself as being above menial work, yet you're easily two of the biggest social losers on the board.

Now go finishing scrubbing the kitchen floor before your wife slaps you so hard you end up looking like a fat Mike Katz....
::)
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Thick Nick on January 14, 2015, 02:21:27 AM
Serious question.. I made $29k last year and I'm self employed.  The cheapest insurance for me was $160 per month.  How are you getting it for $35?? Because I'm making $8k more I have to pay over 4 times as much?

Are you white?
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 14, 2015, 03:18:57 AM
I couldn't careless how much Vince makes or doesn't make. It is what it is. But when he starts a thread with my name in it stating that he's paying only $60 based on $21k of income and and people like myself, Soul Crusher and others are picking up the rest of the tab, then turns around and says he actually made a lot more that tells me he's working the system. Didn't he say something about building a home?


Don't act like you haven't put my name in threads to troll the Politics board, Coach.  Honestly, I think this is my best work
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: King Shizzo on January 14, 2015, 05:47:24 AM
I am seeing glimpses of vintage getbig in this thread.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Howard on January 14, 2015, 05:55:55 AM
Wiggs
Shizzo
booty
Howard
240 is Black
LundrigenisBack
Little J

LOL, I haven't bragged about making 21 k a yr for a long time. ;)
My wife and I will have that double wide paid off soon, AND we own the 1987 Dodge 4 door outright.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Natural Man on January 14, 2015, 06:50:33 AM
I generally pay on average 28% in taxes from my personal income and then I have taxes on revenue I generate from my business ventures.  Next year, I'll have to pay taxes for revenue I'm making abroad as I now operate a business based in China
you are mentally ill.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Natural Man on January 14, 2015, 06:51:30 AM

Yes, because I'm paying back a government student loan and I get credit for the payments....that's part of the reason my filed income is 21k.  Because its almost paid off along with other factors, I won't be able to get a tax credit next year as I'll simply will not be able to no longer use certain deduction in addition to the amount of money I'm bringing in for my business.  

Its a good thing because I want to buy a new Jaguar and buy some property in the area
mentall illness.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Natural Man on January 14, 2015, 06:54:53 AM
obamacare sucks ass - but what should Vince do here?   Tell obama, "Hey, here's an extra $200 a month"?  

He's paying what the govt tells him he has to.

And coach, there's a guy named Mitt Romney that pays much more taxes than you.  Can he call you "lazy" cause you're paying less than him?  Of course not.  You're both paying what the govt legally tells you to pay.

I'm shocked you'd treat another human being like this.  
arent you unemployed , taking care of kids at home while your wife goes to work? Not too suprised you somehow defend vince goodcum.

Fact is vince is trying to make himself feel better about being a genuine loser at life posting delusional crap on the internet just like he has done for the past ten years.
Nothing of what he posts makes sense and is always debunked. He's crazy. He ll end under a bridge.

The whole thread is another attention whoring, bragging fest about who is the richest, luckiest than the others. And we all know self proclaimed believers, capitalist, hypocrit cynical -and LUCKY- guys like coach are the real predators who dominate poor bastards like vince.

Not sure why he always start stupid threads like these only to get bashed invariably into oblivion , probably a sado masochist of some sort.

Vince, those who have more money -whatever the way they obtained it; inheritance, luck, work, killing instead of being killed, a combination of all of the above- lead the world, nothing else matters.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Natural Man on January 14, 2015, 07:04:38 AM
Goodrum knows every scam in the book and then some. Years ago he swore that his bank manager was licking his lips in anticipation of Melvin getting some minority group loan to build a facility on Indian reserve.

Needless to say that enterprise never started. He posts here to impress the Flotsam and gullible. Keith and I called him out as did many others. No gym, clinic, spa, nothing. All bullshit including claims he

did personal training from home. The truth is the local gym didn't want him as a member. Or some such story. That is why he trained at home on some Pilates crap and built a similar physique.

I will give credit where it is due. So far all we can congratulate him on is having a 32 inch flat screen TV. He boasts about going off the grid and all manner of hip things but he lives in a basement probably

on welfare.
he s not even a successful scam artist, he lacks intelligence and hard working skills that could get him somewhere. All he has is "internet hustle"; not very useful in real life.

At least he helps you feel better about your own sorry life.

And looking at both of you make me feel better about my own life.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 14, 2015, 07:04:59 AM
arent you unemployed , taking care of kids at home while your wife goes to work? Not too suprised you somehow defend vince goodcum.

Fact is vince is trying to make himself feel better about being a genuine loser at life posting delusional crap on the internet just like he has done for the past ten years.
Nothing of what he posts makes sense and is always debunked. He's crazy. He ll end under a bridge.

The whole thread is another attention whoring, bragging fest about who is the richest, luckiest than the others. And we all know self proclaimed believers, capitalist, hypocrit cynical -and LUCKY- guys like coach are the real predators who dominate poor bastards like vince.

Not sure why he always start stupid threads like these only to get bashed invariably into oblivion , probably a sado masochist of some sort.

Vince, those who have more money -whatever the way they obtained it; inheritance, luck, work, a combination of both- lead the world, nothing else matters.

I disagree. I think Goodrum believes his own fantasy world.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Twaddle on January 14, 2015, 07:22:16 AM
Relax bro.

The land he owns is his through adverse possession, completely legal. The past 7 years Vince has been maintaining a 4 acre parcel that had gone into foreclosure.  While the bank was bidding it's time to trap some poor sucker into a 30 year mortgage Vincent quietly went to work with the upkeep on the property.  With documentation of his labor, efforts and time the bank was left with no legal option.

Obtaining the building materials is relatively simple as Vincent is getting the home built mostly through non expiring, easily duplicated complimentary coupons from lumber yards. Often times these places discard perfectly fine construction grade materials for cosmetic reasons. They're more than happy to have someone take this stuff off their hands, and the company gets a right off for full retail.

Any other wood needed can be acquired via discarded popsicle sticks and tongue depressers. Although thin once stacked they have the tensile strength of titanium.

All concrete needs are obtained through his new Chinese contacts. Getting that stuff shipped here is exponentially cheaper than buying it out right.  

Due to lax laws on inmate work release programs, and apprentice plumbers/electrician/drywallers needing hours, all the work will be done pro bono.

Because its in state Im sure  he can get the great Falconer to donate time to oversee and offer advice.

The only real out of pocket cost will be the permits; so as you can see this McMansion is being built on the cheap for next to nothing.
Insurance will be the only other expense, because while it didn't cost much to build a fire or another disaster will reward him handsomely.
No laws broken, no systems cheated.

Queen Vissy?  Is that you?   ??? ???
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 14, 2015, 07:41:28 AM
Relax bro.

The land he owns is his through adverse possession, completely legal. The past 7 years Vince has been maintaining a 4 acre parcel that had gone into foreclosure.  While the bank was bidding it's time to trap some poor sucker into a 30 year mortgage Vincent quietly went to work with the upkeep on the property.  With documentation of his labor, efforts and time the bank was left with no legal option.

Obtaining the building materials is relatively simple as Vincent is getting the home built mostly through non expiring, easily duplicated complimentary coupons from lumber yards. Often times these places discard perfectly fine construction grade materials for cosmetic reasons. They're more than happy to have someone take this stuff off their hands, and the company gets a right off for full retail.

Any other wood needed can be acquired via discarded popsicle sticks and tongue depressers. Although thin once stacked they have the tensile strength of titanium.

All concrete needs are obtained through his new Chinese contacts. Getting that stuff shipped here is exponentially cheaper than buying it out right.  

Due to lax laws on inmate work release programs, and apprentice plumbers/electrician/drywallers needing hours, all the work will be done pro bono.

Because its in state Im sure  he can get the great Falconer to donate time to oversee and offer advice.

The only real out of pocket cost will be the permits; so as you can see this McMansion is being built on the cheap for next to nothing.
Insurance will be the only other expense, because while it didn't cost much to build a fire or another disaster will reward him handsomely.
No laws broken, no systems cheated.

 ;D
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: bears on January 14, 2015, 08:30:52 AM
LOL thats what I was getting at, I am in the 33% tax bracket and I dont pay that much on average. If you do the math vince would need to be making around $400K a year to achieve an average federal tax rate of 28%.

$48,434 for taxes on income up to $186K
$65,505 for taxes on income above $186K up to $405K (33% tax rate on anything over $198K)
Total taxes of $113,939 on income of $405K
113,939/405,000 = 28.12%

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2013/10/31/irs-announces-2014-tax-brackets-standard-deduction-amounts-and-more/

and thats before deductions, if he is taking deductions his income would obviously need to be higher to still get that same amount.



ALL CORRECT.  that's why I am having a really hard time buying all this.  

although you can put your income at a really low level to get the credit when you're applying through the website.  its an "estimate".  unfortunately when you file your return and complete form 8962, your credit will have to be paid back because your income will be too high.  the form calculates how much of a credit you received based on your estimated income and either gives you additional credit or makes you pay back all or some of the credit if your income is too high.  so if he actually has an effective rate of 28%, then yes he makes way too much money to get any credit.  it will all have to be paid back when he does his taxes.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 14, 2015, 08:46:16 AM

Don't act like you haven't put my name in threads to troll the Politics board, Coach.  Honestly, I think this is my best work

I don't think I have. Maybe in a thread. But I didn't pm you to direct you to the thread. You don't take up my head.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 14, 2015, 08:49:20 AM

Don't act like you haven't put my name in threads to troll the Politics board, Coach.  Honestly, I think this is my best work

Calling attention to yourself saying "look at me, look at me I'm an idiot " isn't your best work. Putting that you charge $3000 for business seminars on your website is damn close though. Haha
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: ritch on January 14, 2015, 08:53:29 AM
Calling attention to yourself saying "look at me, look at me I'm an idiot " isn't your best work. Putting that you charge $3000 for business seminars on your website is damn close though. Haha

Seriously??? Bahahaha....
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 14, 2015, 09:04:48 AM
Seriously??? Bahahaha....

Yeah, that was hard one forget.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: SF1900 on January 14, 2015, 09:07:21 AM
Seriously??? Bahahaha....

Is that $3,000 in paper money or bitcoins?
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: SF1900 on January 14, 2015, 09:14:29 AM
CALIBER FITNESS SOLUTIONS

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For over 10 years, we have been providing high quality equipment, nutritional supplements, and medical equipment without the high prices.  Never wait again for the best deals on certain days...GET THE BEST DEALS EVERYDAY ALL YEAR ROUND!!!!

 
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 14, 2015, 09:18:51 AM
Calling attention to yourself saying "look at me, look at me I'm an idiot " isn't your best work. Putting that you charge $3000 for business seminars on your website is damn close though. Haha

I enjoy Goodrum's seminars and I have gladly paid 3000 dollars for them several times. He gives a nice handjob and rimming at the end of each seminar too.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 14, 2015, 09:30:02 AM
Why not coach hire Vince to train people to help a Brotha out?  Win win solution no? 
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: chaos on January 14, 2015, 09:33:14 AM
Why not coach hire Vince to train people to help a Brotha out?  Win win solution no? 
Have you ever seen Vince get involved in a thread about training or weightlifting?  ;)
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 14, 2015, 09:47:29 AM
Calling attention to yourself saying "look at me, look at me I'm an idiot " isn't your best work. Putting that you charge $3000 for business seminars on your website is damn close though. Haha


I did one last year, Joe and I've done plenty more over the years....that's why I keep it up there.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Howard on January 14, 2015, 09:53:02 AM

I've not completed or filed taxes yet but you have to file for health insurance before the 15th of January.  I only placed in an estimate of my income but I was taxed at a 28% rate on my personal income

ya know Vince, I admire you for sticking to your principles and doing your best to work the system.
All the best for a successful 2015.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 14, 2015, 09:58:27 AM
Goodrum knows every scam in the book and then some. Years ago he swore that his bank manager was licking his lips in anticipation of Melvin getting some minority group loan to build a facility on Indian reserve.

Needless to say that enterprise never started. He posts here to impress the Flotsam and gullible. Keith and I called him out as did many others. No gym, clinic, spa, nothing. All bullshit including claims he

did personal training from home. The truth is the local gym didn't want him as a member. Or some such story. That is why he trained at home on some Pilates crap and built a similar physique.

I will give credit where it is due. So far all we can congratulate him on is having a 32 inch flat screen TV. He boasts about going off the grid and all manner of hip things but he lives in a basement probably

on welfare.



Wow...that's a mean thing to say.  You hurt my feelings... :'(
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Howard on January 14, 2015, 09:59:51 AM


Wow...that's a mean thing to say.  You hurt my feelings... :'(
Basille just pissed that you won't sell his bicep machine on caliber fitness.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: LittleJ on January 14, 2015, 10:05:02 AM
Why not coach hire Vince to train people to help a Brotha out?  Win win solution no? 

There's no "brothas" on Coach staff.  :)
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 14, 2015, 10:15:41 AM

I did one last year, Joe and I've done plenty more over the years....that's why I keep it up there.

Ok Vince, put up sample of a PowerPoint that you would use. I give 2-4 seminars a year (not business) and the lecture part is on PowerPoint. I'm sure you do the same
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Primemuscle on January 14, 2015, 10:28:40 AM
Coach is living the dream!

My insurance runs about $700.00 a month out of pocket for a family of 4.
I could have picked a cheaper plan, but you pay in the end anyways with the higher co-pays, less things covered, etc.

It is, what it is... Whatever man...

$700 seems pretty inexpensive for family coverage. When I was still working 5 years ago and my employer provided medical insurance, it was over $1,000 a month for the premiums for two-party coverage. My employer paid about 85% of the cost of the premiums. It was very comprehensive coverage which included medical, dental and vision. Prescriptions where covered and chiropractor visits.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Grape Ape on January 14, 2015, 10:49:40 AM
Basille just pissed that you won't sell his bicep machine on caliber fitness.

That's because it costs too much too ship the required 50lb instruction manual.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 14, 2015, 10:53:07 AM
Basille just pissed that you won't sell his bicep machine on caliber fitness.

only hardcore IFBB bodybuilders are allowed to buy that machine. The inner circle, so to speak. It has nothing to do with the quality of Mr. Goodrum's webshop.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 14, 2015, 10:56:38 AM
There's no "brothas" on Coach staff.  :)

 ::)
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Dave D on January 14, 2015, 11:03:31 AM
only hardcore IFBB bodybuilders are allowed to buy that machine. The inner circle, so to speak. It has nothing to do with the quality of Mr. Goodrum's webshop.
That's because it costs too much too ship the required 50lb instruction manual.

Both of these statements are true however you've both forgot to include one key component.

CALIBER FITNESS SOLUTIONS

The Leader In Human Evolution Since 2001
 
For over 10 years, we have been providing high quality equipment, nutritional supplements, and medical equipment without the high prices.  Never wait again for the best deals on certain days...GET THE BEST DEALS EVERYDAY ALL YEAR ROUND!!!!

 
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Vince B has an exclusive deal with Amazon, some in the industry say after shipping that's he's just breaking even, that there is no money being made. Basile is using the bicep machine as a loss leader in order to get his other ground breaking equipment in their gyms.

This pricing issue is the main reason Goodrum won't include it in the Caliber Solutions line up.  He believes in truth in advertising and won't compromise his business integrity.  
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 14, 2015, 11:17:14 AM
Vince B has an exclusive deal with Amazon, some in the industry say after shipping that's he's just breaking even, that there is no money being made. Basile is using the bicep machine as a loss leader in order to get his other ground breaking equipment in their gyms.

This pricing issue is the main reason Goodrum won't include it in the Caliber Solutions line up.  He believes in truth in advertising and won't compromise his business integrity.  

With reference to your above arguments, one might argue that Basile is the superior innovator and inventor, but Goodrum beats him in raw financial power and business management skill.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: ritch on January 14, 2015, 11:18:51 AM
With reference to your above arguments, one might argue that Basile is the superior innovator and inventor, but Goodrum beats him in raw financial power and business management skill.
.

Perhaps they shuld team up!?
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Dave D on January 14, 2015, 11:26:44 AM
With reference to your above arguments, one might argue that Basile is the superior innovator and inventor, but Goodrum beats him in raw financial power and business management skill.

No question at all, you've nailed it.

.

Perhaps they shuld team up!?

Fitness equipment heavyweights,  Hammer, Harbinger,  Valeo, Weider, to name a few, lie awake at night in fear of this possibility.  If theses two could put their differences aside the health and fitness industry would never be the same.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: tonymctones on January 14, 2015, 11:29:31 AM
ya know Vince, I admire you for sticking to your principles and doing your best to work the system.
All the best for a successful 2015.
Hahah you said you judge a man by his character and not his bank account and then praise a guy for taking from others when he can provide for himself if he wanted.

That's not good character Howard, I think you and Vince both have warped views of social assistance programs.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: ritch on January 14, 2015, 11:33:44 AM
No question at all, you've nailed it.

Fitness equipment heavyweights,  Hammer, Harbinger,  Valeo, Weider, to name a few, lie awake at night in fear of this possibility.  If theses two could put their differences aside the health and fitness industry would never be the same.

hahaha, funny shit!!!
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: disco_stu on January 14, 2015, 11:35:32 AM
yup

21k this year so Soul Crusher and Coach will be picking up most of the tab for about 235 dollars.  Thanks, Obama!!

Tax payers will be picking up the tab of 235 and he will pay the rest.

the way i see it, is that if there is anyone who earns more than you do, they contribute to your cost.

so you can bag the poorest people, but ultimately everyone except the richest, pay for each other.

the benefit is that the really poor dont get really desperate and do desperate things...a cost that isnt factored in this discussion.

by having the really poor able to have a chance to not be poor, the net benefit is better than having people on death row.

and if you are really rich, you can still choose to pay for top line service if u want it.

seems the system is much better than before, but the typical US mentality is all about "me".

with complete disregard of the resulting social benefits that come back to everybody.

Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 14, 2015, 11:40:14 AM
you guys are seeing the social welfare system of America in a too narrow context. Melvin Goodrum is still grieving the loss of his longtime lover. This previous power couple formed a complete zen, ying and yang if you will, and Goodrum is torn up inside, both his rectum and his emotions, over the loss of this partner.

Shouldn't America pay a little Obamacare to get Melvin back on his feet until the Bitcoins roll again and he can bathe in a bath of man nectar and bee pollen? In my opinion, it is the right thing to do.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Voice of Doom on January 14, 2015, 11:46:09 AM
The people are hungry: It is because those in authority eat up too much in taxes.

Lao Tzu

Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 14, 2015, 11:52:17 AM
Ok Vince, put up sample of a PowerPoint that you would use. I give 2-4 seminars a year (not business) and the lecture part is on PowerPoint. I'm sure you do the same


I'll do better.  I'll put up my new one next week
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: tonymctones on January 14, 2015, 11:59:05 AM
The people are hungry: It is because those in authority eat up too much in taxes.

Lao Tzu


does Vince look like he is missing any meals?
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on January 14, 2015, 12:17:30 PM

I'll do better.  I'll put up my new one next week
haha so you can make a bogus one or goodle one that is ready lål

well played vincenzo
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 14, 2015, 12:29:23 PM
haha so you can make a bogus one or goodle one that is ready lål

well played vincenzo

If I were gay, I would make him mine, that vincenzo-fella.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 14, 2015, 12:31:55 PM
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Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 14, 2015, 12:36:57 PM

I'll do better.  I'll put up my new one next week

The old one is fine
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Primemuscle on January 17, 2015, 11:18:37 PM

I've not completed or filed taxes yet but you have to file for health insurance before the 15th of January.  I only placed in an estimate of my income but I was taxed at a 28% rate on my personal income

So are you saying that with an income of less than $2,000 a month you are paying 28% in income taxes? Whoever does your taxes, screwed up. My sister makes about what you do and she qualifies for earned income credit, which means she actually gets a refund which is greater than she had deducted in taxes.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 17, 2015, 11:30:43 PM
So are you saying that with an income of less than $2,000 a month you are paying 28% in income taxes? Whoever does your taxes screwed up. My sister makes about what you do and she qualifies for earned income credit, which means she actually gets a refund which is greater than she had deducted in taxes.

Since Vince is self employed he wouldn't get a refund unless he over paid. But if he didn't he pays. If he was an actual employee of a company then yes, you're correct.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 18, 2015, 04:44:13 AM
Since Vince is self employed he wouldn't get a refund unless he over paid. But if he didn't he pays. If he was an actual employee of a company then yes, you're correct.

I haven't received a tax refund in about 7 years and won't get one this year neither.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: Primemuscle on January 18, 2015, 10:45:03 AM
Since Vince is self employed he wouldn't get a refund unless he over paid. But if he didn't he pays. If he was an actual employee of a company then yes, you're correct.

I see. Well my sister isn't employed; she is disabled and unable to work. Her income is PERS disability and SSD. Naturally, she doesn't pay taxes on SSD. PERS automatically takes out the minimum for taxes. In her case, that doesn't amount to much. It is less then $500 a year. Her total gross income is less than $2,000 a month which is barely enough for one person to live on in Oregon. The monthly payment to cover the assisted living cost eats up most of her limited income. She should have stayed married to one of her 5 husbands.
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: AbrahamG on January 18, 2015, 04:23:44 PM
Does Vince pay alimony to Vissy?  If so, how does that factor into the whole income/tax proposition?
Title: Re: Wow...My Obamacare Coverage cost 269.00 a month!!!
Post by: visualizeperfection on January 19, 2015, 02:39:29 AM
I pay more taxes than melvin makes in a year.

I dont even own 1 business  ???