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Starts at 1:15. Kid is now being charged with assault and battery and resisting arrest.
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Starts at 1:15. Kid is now being charged with assault and battery and resisting arrest.
Just another example of idiots making a huge unnecesary fuzz out of an otherwise routine stop.
Yes, you have rights, doesn't mean you have to be a dick about it and prevent others from doing their job.
-edit- The crybaby makes for hilarious entertainment.
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"Resisting arrest" is turning into the biggest cyclical pile of BS. In NYState, you can be brought up on charges of "resisting arrest". What were you being arrested for that you resisted, you may ask? Well, "resisting arrest", obviously.
So, in NY, you can be arrested for nothing and if you protest, then you're resisting arrest.
It's time for all freedom loving American's to move to states that believe in liberty and use their overwhelming numbers to forcibly change the government to libertine form and then secede from the Union. Do that a few times and then the secessionist states can form a loose association of states, say a "Confederacy of States" or something like that.
The revolution won't start in somebody's living room, it will start in some Statehouse.
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Why can't people just do what cops ask?
Is it dangerous to tase someone after getting sprayed? Can they catch on fire?
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Most important part of the story. Why try to delete the video if you have nothing to hide? ??? ???
After brutalizing her 17-year-old friend and taking them both into custody, the officers attempted to delete the footage. Luckily, the video went to a “recently deleted” file on her iPhone and was able to be recovered.
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That kid is an idiot.
A whole generation of self-entitled little monsters we are raising in this country.
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Is it dangerous to tase someone after getting sprayed? Can they catch on fire?
What? You mean like is pepper spray flammable and do tasers produce sparks?
No and no.
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"Resisting arrest" is turning into the biggest cyclical pile of BS. In NYState, you can be brought up on charges of "resisting arrest". What were you being arrested for that you resisted, you may ask? Well, "resisting arrest", obviously.
So, in NY, you can be arrested for nothing and if you protest, then you're resisting arrest.
It's time for all freedom loving American's to move to states that believe in liberty and use their overwhelming numbers to forcibly change the government to libertine form and then secede from the Union. Do that a few times and then the secessionist states can form a loose association of states, say a "Confederacy of States" or something like that.
The revolution won't start in somebody's living room, it will start in some Statehouse.
You guys in NY cant even pay for private blood work or get TRT from clinics huh?
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Why can't people just do what cops ask?
Is it dangerous to tase someone after getting sprayed? Can they catch on fire?
haha, good question, gene.
Maybe just a little smoke. Nothing too serious to worry about.
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haha, good question, gene.
Maybe just a little smoke. Nothing too serious to worry about.
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What? You mean like is pepper spray flammable and do tasers produce sparks?
No and no.
Excuse me, AJ, but I think this is a more appropriate question for Johnny Falcon to answer, since it deals with electricity (tasers).
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Starts at 1:15. Kid is now being charged with assault and battery and resisting arrest.
Totally unnecessary.. I think they could have handled it better. I can understand why a lot of people here are anti cop.
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Starts at 1:15. Kid is now being charged with assault and battery and resisting arrest.
Despicable!
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Can someone please explain how come the police will arrest a guy for smoking dope, but turn a blind eye to local production facilities?
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Can someone please explain how come the police will arrest a guy for smoking dope, but turn a blind eye to local production facilities?
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Think long and hard about it...
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Think long and hard about it...
Are you into this conspiracy theory crap too ::)
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Are you into this conspiracy theory crap too ::)
you ask a very, very blanket question. A question that you believe to be true.
There is no simple answer. And it is complex...
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Despicable!
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Have to side with the officers. If you're pulled over and an officer smells marijuana, then he has a right to investigate. If you refuse, then you are obstruction of justice. Since he fought with the officers, that's resisting arrest and assault.
Being 17 doesn't matter....in fact, he can be easily tried as an adult and placed in an adult housing. Truthfully, if they complied then it would have been just a ticket and sent on their way but they decided to argue with the cops and curse at them. Never a great idea.
Hope he enjoyed the taser and pepper spray. That will learn em....
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you ask a very, very blanket question. A question that you believe to be true.
There is no simple answer. And it is complex...
You saying the cops are paid by the manufacturers? Meaning they work for them?
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http://washington.cbslocal.com/2015/04/10/virginia-police-investigate-video-of-teen-being-tased-claim-officer-tried-to-delete-footage/
Virginia Beach, Va. (CBS DC) — Virginia Beach Police say they’re investigating whether an officer’s use of force was excessive after a now-viral video surfaced of a traffic stop in which a teenager was pepper-sprayed, tased and police attempted to later delete the cellphone recording.
The traffic stop occurred on Jan. 10 and was recorded by Courtney Griffith, 18, who had been stopped for a traffic violation in the 1900 block of Darnell Drive, WTKR-TV reports. Her 17-year-old friend Brandon Wyne was sitting in the backseat and another passenger was in the car when they were pulled over for a broken license plate light, but the officer said he smelled marijuana and asked them to step out of the vehicle.
“Until my mother is here, no one is to touch me, understand?” Wyne can be heard saying to the officer.
“Well, you’re gonna get out of the car in just a second,” responds the officer.
“I will, but no one will touch me until my mother is here. I am 17 years old,” says Wyne.
“You have to comply,” Griffith tells Wyne, who can be seen from the cellphone she’s propped up on the dashboard. “Sir, how does a normal traffic stop go from ‘I smell marijuana’ when I don’t allow that kind of stuff into my car?”
The officer tells her he is “going to explain it,” and Griffith tells Wyne to “shut up” to hear the officer’s explanation. “Am I being detained?” she asks, and the officer responds, “Yes… for the smell of marijuana coming from your vehicle.”
The officers proceed to tell the teens that the vehicle smelled like marijuana and demand that the passengers step out of the vehicle. Four cop cars were on the scene at this point and Wyne, being a minor, repeatedly requests that his mother be present.
“They begin to pull people out of my car,” Griffith told WAVY-TV. “Before they even run my plates, they begin to pull people out of my car.”
“I’m 17 years old, stop!” cries out Wyne as he is pepper-sprayed. He states that he is calling his mother and repeats that he is only a minor as the officers threaten to tase him. After he is tased, Wyne tells the officer he’ll get out of the car, but before he can exit, he is stunned a second time.
“At this point, his hands are up and they are over his eyes. At this point, everything is fine with what the police have done,” Tim Anderson, Wyne’s attorney, told WAVY. “Tasing him was completely unnecessary. He was not a threat. His hands are up. He is clearly immobilized by the effects of the pepper spray, and they could have dragged him out.”
Griffith told WAVY she couldn’t watch the video anymore, and that is shows excessive use of force by law enforcement is not just “about race.”
“I can’t even watch it anymore … I can’t see him go through that,” Griffith said. “It’s not about race. It’s not about class. It could happen to anybody nowadays.”
At the conclusion of the four-minute video, a police officer can be seen appearing to shut off Griffith’s camera. Griffith says when she got her cellphone back from police the video had been deleted. But she was able to recover the video because it saved to a “recently deleted folder.”
“They arrested me, never Mirandized me or Brandon, and they sent me off with a summons. When I went back to my car, my phone had been brought off the dashboard and was on the driver’s seat. I asked the cops who deleted the video, after looking for it in my folder, and they all started laughing. It was sickening. I later found it in my recently deleted folder,” Griffith told The Free Thought Project.
Wyne is currently in juvenile detention, charged with assault and battery, obstruction of justice, and possession of marijuana with intent to sell. Virginia Beach Police told WAVY that their investigators are reviewing the allegation that the officer took the phone and attempted to delete the video.
Griffith was given a ticket for having pot in her purse, but the charge was dismissed.
“If you have nothing to hide, why delete it? It doesn’t make any sense,” Griffith told WAVY.
The officer has been placed on administrative duty, pending the department’s investigation. The Virginia Beach Police Department released the following statement to WAVY Thursday:
“The Virginia Beach Police Department’s Office of Internal Affairs is currently investigating a Use of Force incident that originated as a traffic stop on January 10, 2015 at approximately 9:00 p.m. in the 1900 block of Darnell Drive, Virginia Beach.
The Virginia Beach Police Department immediately began investigating this incident based on the officer’s self-reported Use of Force Report and video captured from the officer’s TASER camera submitted the night of the incident. The department was previously unaware of the citizens recorded video until today. The internal investigation was initiated based the processes and policies that serve as checks and balances when an officer uses force. It should be noted this investigation was self-initiated by the police department and was not as a result of a citizen complaint.
As a result of the traffic stop arrests have been made and narcotics were recovered.
The involved officer has been placed on administrative duty.”
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Have to side with the officers. If you're pulled over and an officer smells marijuana, then he has a right to investigate. If you refuse, then you are obstruction of justice. Since he fought with the officers, that's resisting arrest and assault.
Being 17 doesn't matter....in fact, he can be easily tried as an adult and placed in an adult housing. Truthfully, if they complied then it would have been just a ticket and sent on their way but they decided to argue with the cops and curse at them. Never a great idea.
Hope he enjoyed the taser and pepper spray. That will learn em....
I guess people expect the police to continue to ask the dumbass kid to step out of his vehicle until 6 am the next day.
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Why can't people just do what cops ask?
Is it dangerous to tase someone after getting sprayed? Can they catch on fire?
Because they do not have to.
Have you ever heard of habeas corpus?
What's fucking irritating beyond belief is to believe that we Have to be uber-obedient to what pigs say.
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You saying the cops are paid by the manufacturers? Meaning they work for them?
You look for a simple answer for a complex issue.
Because they do not have to.
Have you ever heard of habeas corpus?
What's fucking irritating beyond belief is to believe that we Have to be uber-obedient to what pigs say.
and here comes mr. Ignorant
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good they got what they were looking for,lol I'm going to call my mommy....I'm seventeen years old just get Out of the car :D
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You look for a simple answer for a complex issue. and here comes mr. Ignorant
Dude, the girl asked "am I being detained?". The pig said "yes". Girl says "for what?". Pig says "for marijuana".
Marijuana can easily be a broken brake light or suspicious activity or anything else the cop desires at any point.
Truth is he got stopped for driving while black AND with white girls in the car. A huge no-no in pig protocol.
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Dude, the girl asked "am I being detained?". The pig said "yes". Girl says "for what?". Pig says "for marijuana".
Marijuana can easily be a broken brake light or suspicious activity or anything else the cop desires at any point.
Truth is he got stopped for driving while black AND with white girls in the car. A huge no-no in pig protocol.
next time they'll just get out of the car ,nice life lesson ;)
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I wonder why he wouldn't just get out of the car? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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Dude, the girl asked "am I being detained?". The pig said "yes". Girl says "for what?". Pig says "for marijuana".
Marijuana can easily be a broken brake light or suspicious activity or anything else the cop desires at any point.
Truth is he got stopped for driving while black AND with white girls in the car. A huge no-no in pig protocol.
Dude, there was what i think was white dude in the car. And he got the first hit of spray.
What were they originally stopped for? That leads to the probable cause. The "smell of marijuana" (and you are correct he could make it up) leads to probable cause of searching the person. They could say no, then the dogs are brought out.
You also do realize that this is Virginia? The state where a baseball player was sentence to jail for speeding. The state where you can't have a radar detector in your car.
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I wonder why he wouldn't just get out of the car? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
me thinks he had some weed on him even though she doesn't let it in her car lol
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You saying the cops are paid by the manufacturers? Meaning they work for them?
Yes, the police are paid by the manufacturers. They do bust them occasionally, but they warn them before the bust. It is how it works.
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Yes, the police are paid by the manufacturers. They do bust them occasionally, but they warn them before the bust. It is how it works.
How much do they get paid?
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Dude, there was what i think was white dude in the car. And he got the first blast.
What were they originally stopped for? That leads to the probable cause. The "smell of marijuana" (and you are correct he could make it up) leads to probable cause of searching the person. They could say no, then the dogs are brought out.
You also do realize that this is Virginia? The state where a baseball player was sentence to jail for speeding. The state where you can't have a radar detector in your car.
Yes, but nowadays I think pigs have a loophole when entering a car without a warrant. If my memory serves me right... I think they can break into the car if there is probable cause. And we all know they can make it up whenever they want to.
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How much do they get paid?
It varies, but tens of thousands per month is common.
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Yes, but nowadays I think pigs have a loophole when entering a car without a warrant. If my memory serves me right... I think they can break into the car if there is probable cause. And we all know they can make it up whenever they want to.
Here is the thing you are forgetting. It has to come to court. The DA has to go over the case. No case, the DA can drop it, or the person is found guilty.
Do that "make up probable cause" enough times or the wrong one, and or the person has a shrewd attorney. That can mean a lawsuit, on the dept, or egg on the DAs face. And many jurisdictions don't have the money to be paying out for lawsuits due to corrupt or terrible police work...
It varies, but tens of thousands per month is common.
Lol, like you know. The level of ignorance is outstanding. "Is common", lol. Man, come to Getbig.
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This is why the war on drugs is highly immoral, fancy treating another human being like that because you think he smoked some pot. What a fucked world we live in.
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Yes, but nowadays I think pigs have a loophole when entering a car without a warrant. If my memory serves me right... I think they can break into the car if there is probable cause. And we all know they can make it up whenever they want to.
Your addressing of officers with slanderous terms such as 'pigs' pretty much negates any valid argument you might have put up.
While Because they do not have to.
Have you ever heard of habeas corpus?
What's fucking irritating beyond belief is to believe that we Have to be uber-obedient to what pigs say.
There is a difference between being obedient and cooperating. There is absolutely no reason why these teenagers could not simply cooperate and gotten out of the car. If you feel like you have been mistreated in any way, there is always the possibility to ask for the identities of the officers present/involved to then file a complaint or start a law-suit afterwards. Like a civilized person.
With this specific incident, the officers did in fact find marihuana in the possession of these minors. That itself validates the actions of the officers. Was the level of force used a little excessive? Possibly. But the suspects had the choice to cooperate knowing they were in the wrong. Cooperating in this sense not meaning jumping out of the car and presenting the marihuana which would be self-indictment, but rather to simply get out when requested.
But it's OK, Slapper, I understand your biased and retarded hate for the police. I understand you'd rather have kids going about with drugs in vehicles. We'll talk when your kids get run over by someone DUI, but who wasn't stopped by the police like you would rather have seen.
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In this case, the truth is in the MIDDLE.
The cop wasa correct in pulling the person out of the car. Assuming the weed smell was legit (maybe have the dog arrive and make it official). A 17 year old cannot tell the cop to fck off because mommy hasn't arrived yet. If you're on the road, you're subject to the law. If you don't get out of the car, you are going on the concrete, punk, and that's fine.
HOWEVER - the cop tried to delete the video. The cop attempted to DESTROY EVIDENCE ILLEGALLY, even if that evidence actually helped the cop's case. Therefore, the piece of shit should be kicked off the force. The MINUTE it becomes okay for police to destroy video evidence of their public action, paid for by the public and recorded completely legally, this place turns into Hitler's Germany in about 5 seconds.
Recorded evidence is about the ONLY thing keeping cops from turning into a gang that robs/kills when they feel like it, while 1/3 the nation cheers them on. The FEAR that everyone in the crowd is uploading their actions in realtime is often the ONLY thing that keeps people from getting beaten or wasted on a regular basis.
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Here is the thing you are forgetting. It has to come to court. The DA has to go over the case. No case, the DA can drop it, or the person is found guilty.
Do that "make up probable cause" enough times or the wrong one, and or the person has a shrewd attorney. That can mean a lawsuit, on the dept, or egg on the DAs face. And many jurisdictions don't have the money to be paying out for lawsuits due to corrupt or terrible police work...
I know, yet it doesn't stop them. A heck of a lot of pigs' work involves intimidation, and if you corner someone enough, the sheer act of letting a person go prevents the pig, or his/her department, from getting sued.
I once got my car searched in the middle of the night on my way to Montreal even though I showed the pig my hotel booking AND I had my 3-year old in the back seat sleeping.
These "people" have no common sense.
Sometimes I wish I could get every single person dear to the pig in a room and inform them of the things the pig did to me and other people. This way his own kin could work some sense into him/her.
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In this case, the truth is in the MIDDLE.
The cop wasa correct in pulling the person out of the car. Assuming the weed smell was legit (maybe have the dog arrive and make it official). A 17 year old cannot tell the cop to fck off because mommy hasn't arrived yet. If you're on the road, you're subject to the law. If you don't get out of the car, you are going on the concrete, punk, and that's fine.
HOWEVER - the cop tried to delete the video. The cop attempted to DESTROY EVIDENCE ILLEGALLY, even if that evidence actually helped the cop's case. Therefore, the piece of shit should be kicked off the force. The MINUTE it becomes okay for police to destroy video evidence of their public action, paid for by the public and recorded completely legally, this place turns into Hitler's Germany in about 5 seconds.
Not proven (yet) and only based on the claim of one of the people inside of the car.
As opposed to the officer's rightful suspecion of, and confirmed, presence of marihuana.
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This just caused three kids to decide to go to Law School... 8)
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Turning down the search is easy, assuming you're sober and legal:
Q: Are you cool with me taking a look around youe vehicle, since you have nothing to hide?
A: "Actually, I gotta say not to the search, sir. I'm 100% sober, I am legally carrying and you saw my permit, I don't do drugs and don't have drugs, I'm a hard-working musician with a car full of amps, trying to dodge idiot drunk/stoned drivers and just get home to my bed. I want to sleep, not spend an hour cleaning out my car. You know scumbags, and you know working man, it's pretty obvious which I am. So no, I don't want to be searched, I don't consent, respectfully."
At that point, ticket or released, but if not, it's motherfccking ACLU, lawyer, supervisor, video everything time. I respect cops, I follow the law (I don't ever even speed). But the moment I get violated, the law is suddenly my best friend and that cop has a headache for 5 years with my name on it.
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Not proven (yet) and only based on the claim of one of the people inside of the car.
As opposed to the officer's rightful suspecion of, and confirmed, presence of marihuana.
exactly
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Turning down the search is easy, assuming you're sober and legal:
Q: Are you cool with me taking a look around youe vehicle, since you have nothing to hide?
A: "Actually, I gotta say not to the search, sir. I'm 100% sober, I am legally carrying and you saw my permit, I don't do drugs and don't have drugs, I'm a hard-working musician with a car full of amps, trying to dodge idiot drunk/stoned drivers and just get home to my bed. I want to sleep, not spend an hour cleaning out my car. You know scumbags, and you know working man, it's pretty obvious which I am. So no, I don't want to be searched, I don't consent, respectfully."
At that point, ticket or released, but if not, it's motherfccking ACLU, lawyer, supervisor, video everything time. I respect cops, I follow the law (I don't ever even speed). But the moment I get violated, the law is suddenly my best friend and that cop has a headache for 5 years with my name on it.
You've actually taken the police to court for this sort of scenario?
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You've actually taken the police to court for this sort of scenario?
:D :D
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I guess people expect the police to continue to ask the dumbass kid to step out of his vehicle until 6 am the next day.
Yep, but this video will help future idiots ;D
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This is why the war on drugs is highly immoral, fancy treating another human being like that because you think he smoked some pot. What a fucked world we live in.
It's more about not being allowed to operate a vehicle while high. That's what the cops were trying to determine.
High driver is just as bad a drunk driver. Innocents can get killed. The police have every right to prevent that.
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You've actually taken the police to court for this sort of scenario?
this is how I handle it. In the past, I've declined searches twice. Not a huge deal.
I'm saying if the cop were to suddenly get all "violating rob's rights" on my ass, then yes, I'm demanding a supervisor, a video camera, an attorney, and in 12 hours it will very much be on public record.
Honestly, now that I'm a buzzed head 38 year old with muscles, and I'm driving with a carseat and dressed in a tie and stone sober and respectful, I've had zero probably with law enforcement. They have a job, kids, and like all people, they want to be respected too. I'm reverent and respectful, a legally armed american with almost 19 years of carrying a glock, and if that cop is ever gettng his ass kicked by 3 people on the side of the road, I'm the knight in shining armor that comes in blasting to rescue his ass, for sure.
BUT the moment I sense a cop is taking my gracious and respectful nature and turning it into a "fuck this dude" atttude, then it's going to go the other way.
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I generally dislike cops, but the cop did nothing out of the ordinary. He shouldn't have tried to delete the video though.
Plus, they are white = no one cares.
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It makes you wonder about tazers. Are police feeling more confidant to physically violate people now that they have tazers? Or were they doing it in "other ways" pre tazers?
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I actually agree with the cops on this one. These thugs needed to go to jail. Smoking pot and driving is a very stupid
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Yep, but this video will help future idiots ;D
Chris Rock is spot on with that one!
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I generally dislike cops, but the cop did nothing out of the ordinary. He shouldn't have tried to delete the video though.
Plus, they are white = no one cares.
yes but you know sometimes it seems like these guys have no common sense or maybe just don´t have patience . when you have a kid of 17 who looked soft trying to give weak resistance or saying he is 17 and wants a grown up there, which i find resonable.. then these guys should handle it a bit more maturely. Granted a 17 year old can pull a trigger too but i think they should asses the situation and then react accordingly...not just Rambo style straight away... just my 2 cents dudes...
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they got what they had coming ,all they had to do was get out of the car,how long do you think the cops should wait 1,3,5 hours.i would be embarrasses if that was my kid acting like that,the fact is my kid wouldn't act like that because he was brought up to respect the law
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yes but you know sometimes it seems like these guys have no common sense or maybe just don´t have patience . when you have a kid of 17 who looked soft trying to give weak resistance or saying he is 17 and wants a grown up there, which i find resonable.. then these guys should handle it a bit more maturely. Granted a 17 year old can pull a trigger too but i think they should asses the situation and then react accordingly...not just Rambo style straight away... just my 2 cents dudes...
You assume they are intelligent enough to apply that kind of wisdom...
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they got what they had coming ,all they had to do was get out of the car,how long do you think the cops should wait 1,3,5 hours.i would be embarrasses if that was my kid acting like that,the fact is my kid wouldn't act like that because he was brought up to respect the law
Remember we are talking about a young boy of 17 and not a hardened criminal. I know what you are saying but i don´t see the need to react like they did. screaming at the Boy made him panic and react like he did. I assume Police Officers are taught some psychology..maybe not. I would have lowered the tone of my voice and said to him OK come out and no harm will be done then you can call(or we will call your Mother) i guarantee you he would have got out the car. You react aggressive, people panic.. FACT.
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You assume they are intelligent enough to apply that kind of wisdom...
I think they need to be trained better. I am not a dreamer but i think when dealing with people on a Daily Basis you need Psychology.
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Kid deserved it! Loved it how he cried he was wanted to call his mommy..obey the order to get out of the car you don't get pepper sprayed or tased
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Remember we are talking about a young boy of 17 and not a hardened criminal. I know what you are saying but i don´t see the need to react like they did. screaming at the Boy made him panic and react like he did. I assume Police Officers are taught some phycology..maybe not. I would have lowered the tone of my voice and said to him OK come out and no harm will be done then you can call(or we will call your Mother) i guarantee you he would have got out the car. You react aggressive, people panic.. FACT.
are you saying because he's 17 he doesn't know any better,if that's the case this country is going to shit.they were asked a number of times,I'm not buying because he's 17 he doesn't know any better
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Kid deserved it! Loved it how he cried he was wanted to call his mommy..obey the order to get out of the car you don't get pepper sprayed or tased
::) ok Big man
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Remember we are talking about a young boy of 17 and not a hardened criminal. I know what you are saying but i don´t see the need to react like they did. screaming at the Boy made him panic and react like he did. I assume Police Officers are taught some psychology..maybe not. I would have lowered the tone of my voice and said to him OK come out and no harm will be done then you can call(or we will call your Mother) i guarantee you he would have got out the car. You react aggressive, people panic.. FACT.
How do you handle a situation when the person refuses to exit the vehicle?
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I don't see the big deal here. This is what happens when some punk ass kid know it alls enter the real world. These dumb fucks were never taught any respect, thus they have to learn it the hard way.
I remember being 17,18 smoking weed with buddies or drinking cheap piss warm beer cruising around the neighborhood. Typical teenage behavior. We got pulled over once, and all of us collectively shit our pants. We all stepped out of the car scared as fuck, complied with every order from the cop and apologized profusely. Every answer was yes sir or no sir. ...magically we were all let go minus the beer.
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How do you handle a situation when the person refuses to exit the vehicle?
you just keep asking for how ever long it takes 5,6,8 hours :D
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How do you handle a situation when the person refuses to exit the vehicle?
I would have stayed calm and called his Mother. If i could not get her then another person he trusts. Like i wrote common sense prevails. He was no Danger to the cops. To taser him twice was not needed..it´s like comply or get pain.. If the guy was a threat then sure i would have dragged him out no problem but you have to asses the situation and quickly. Why just react to every situation like rambo? you are dealing with people..
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you just keep asking for how ever long it takes 5,6,8 hours :D
how long does a phone call take? even the sound of his mothers voice would have put him at ease. Like i wrote before ...if he was a threat i would not hesitate to react.
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I have to say, both the chick and the kid are punks. I could tell straight away the chick was lying (have dealt with her type many times) and the kid was a straight up punk.
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how long does a phone call take? even the sound of his mothers voice would have put him at ease. Like i wrote before ...if he was a threat i would not hesitate to react.
the fucking kid is 17 not 7 :D :D :D :D :D
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I have to say, both the chick and the kid are punks. I could tell straight away the chick was lying (have dealt with her type many times) and the kid was a straight up punk.
well all i can say is i have been in situations searching people or cars and have from my experience learned that if you want co operation you have to tone it down. I have had a guy spit on me, abuse ..etc but i got on with my job. I know of guys who punched or beat up people for abuse. I have seen both sides. could write about all that but i can´t be bothered.
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This is why the war on drugs is highly immoral, fancy treating another human being like that because you think he smoked some pot. What a fucked world we live in.
Exactly.
I remember once being in a group of 20 youths out on some old wasteland.
We'd been for a couple of beers, driven over to this place and were passing spliffs around getting stoned.
The police came - walked up, had a chat. "What you doing here lads" - "just chatting after the pub" - "Really, not a bit cold for that".
Then the cop asking the questions turned to the other one and said "they are just having a spliff on us....".
Us all being 18-19 shat ourselves at that but the cops just said "have a good night lads" and they left.
We were doing no harm. Course this was in the UK, where 2 cops without guns had the balls to walk up to 20 youths on some remote wasteland and shoot the breeze.
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I would have stayed calm and called his Mother. If i could not get her then another person he trusts. Like i wrote common sense prevails. He was no Danger to the cops. To taser him twice was not needed..it´s like comply or get pain.. If the guy was a threat then sure i would have dragged him out no problem but you have to asses the situation and quickly. Why just react to every situation like rambo? you are dealing with people..
What relevance does "his mom" have to the situation?
Are you going to stand there for 2 or 3 hours waiting for her to show up?
What if every time a kid 16 or 17 was pulled over he used that same "i'm waiting for my mom to show up" routine that he seen on youtube?
You sound really naive.
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What relevance does "his mom" have to the situation?
Are you going to stand there for 2 or 3 hours waiting for her to show up?
What if every time a kid 16 or 17 was pulled over he used that same "i'm waiting for my mom to show up" routine that he seen on youtube?
You sound really naive.
agree 100%
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Exactly.
I remember once being in a group of 20 youths out on some old wasteland.
We'd been for a couple of beers, driven over to this place and were passing spliffs around getting stoned.
The police came - walked up, had a chat. "What you doing here lads" - "just chatting after the pub" - "Really, not a bit cold for that".
Then the cop asking the questions turned to the other one and said "they are just having a spliff on us....".
Us all being 18-19 shat ourselves at that but the cops just said "have a good night lads" and they left.
We were doing no harm. Course this was in the UK, where 2 cops without guns had the balls to walk up to 20 youths on some remote wasteland and shoot the breeze.
yes.. sensible Guys. Had this too when i was 15 Drinking and stuff. Police just told us.. and i quote.. Just don´t be Kunts lads no trouble. left us to it.
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Didn't watch the video because of the idiot who put it up. If a cop pulls you over cooperate and hand over your driving credentials when he asks. If you don't when you have them on you then you can be charged with your state's version of hindering apprehension or obstructing. Then you are subject to arrest. Resisting arrest isn't only an assault it's also refusing to get out of a car to let the cop arrest you. Resisting arrest isn't just fighting a cop it's also arguing with a cop waving your hands around to make it difficult for him to put handcuffs on you.
Here's a few ways a traffic stop can go. A cop pulls you over and warns you about the traffic infraction and lets you go without a ticket. He gives you a traffic ticket for the moving violation that if found guilty could affect your insurance rates and records on your driving record. If you're polite with a clean record he might give you a non driving record ticket like a seatbelt or a cracked windshield instead of the moving violation to keep your driving record clean. Then again you can act like a dick and refuse all requests for paper work and bust the cops balls like a immature high school kid. Then your are arrested for hindering apprehension, resisting arrest, and every legal ticket he can figure out to give you. If he is a knowledgeable cop it could be a lot of tickets.
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What relevance does "his mom" have to the situation?
Are you going to stand there for 2 or 3 hours waiting for her to show up?
What if every time a kid 16 or 17 was pulled over he used that same "i'm waiting for my mom to show up" routine that he seen on youtube?
You sound really naive.
A phone call is not 2-3 hours. Of course you can´t wait that time. The whole point which you don´t grasp is the aggressive mannerism was not needed or do you think your 17 year old kid should get this treatment? Naive? no just more experience than you.
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I think there might have been 2 girls in that car :D
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A phone call is not 2-3 hours. Of course you can´t wait that time. The whole point which you don´t grasp is the aggressive mannerism was not needed or do you think your 17 year old kid should get this treatment? Naive? no just more experience than you.
your right just get out of the car,the 17 argument doesn't hold water
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well all i can say is i have been in situations searching people or cars and have from my experience learned that if you want co operation you have to tone it down. I have had a guy spit on me, abuse ..etc but i got on with my job. I know of guys who punched or beat up people for abuse. I have seen both sides. could write about all that but i can´t be bothered.
Yeah for sure, but they were guilty, and all their carry on was just a cover to try to keep the cops out of the car.
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Yeah for sure, but they were guilty, and all their carry on was just a cover to try to keep the cops out of the car.
you telling us the cops were right not to believe she didn't allow pot in her car,who would have thought ;D
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Its because of assholes like this others get shot.
Cops never know what they are going to be dealing with.
Just get out the car FFS.
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A phone call is not 2-3 hours. Of course you can´t wait that time. The whole point which you don´t grasp is the aggressive mannerism was not needed or do you think your 17 year old kid should get this treatment? Naive? no just more experience than you.
The kid calls his mom ::) and he still doesn't get out of the car.
Then what is the next step?
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Yeah for sure, but they were guilty, and all their carry on was just a cover to try to keep the cops out of the car.
yes ok but screaming at them and the Taser..come on. At the end of the Day diffrent situations need diffrent responses that is what my point is. this brings me back to the point of training Officers Centrally to ensure a strict standard and not idiot Sheriff Departments who do what they want. i think the British Police receive stricter training.
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2 girls 1 cop.
The kid was total Generation Selfie. If the cop had agreed, he would have taken idiotic selfies while waiting for his mom (who took forever because she had to update her FB status before leaving the duplex).
The kid totally deserves to be yanked out of the car. No, we can't just wait for your mom, you entitled little dipshit. Your stupidity owns all previous stupidity the world has ever known. You little bitch.
But the cop can't delete the video. All else is cool, but if he lays a finger on the girls' phone (you know his dashcam will show him with it, but sheep will bleat "you cannot PROVE he was deleting video..."
Then you toss the pothead whiner in jail, and you kick the idiot cop off the force. Easy one.
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2 girls 1 cop.
The kid was total Generation Selfie. If the cop had agreed, he would have taken idiotic selfies while waiting for his mom (who took forever because she had to update her FB status before leaving the duplex).
The kid totally deserves to be yanked out of the car. No, we can't just wait for your mom, you entitled little dipshit. Your stupidity owns all previous stupidity the world has ever known. You little bitch.
But the cop can't delete the video. All else is cool, but if he lays a finger on the girls' phone (you know his dashcam will show him with it, but sheep will bleat "you cannot PROVE he was deleting video..."
Then you toss the pothead whiner in jail, and you kick the idiot cop off the force. Easy one.
100% in agreement with that one.
That bullshit should be prosecuted heavily when it arises.
Too many ruined lives(i.e. lengthy prison sentences) as a result of tampered evidence.
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100% in agreement with that one.
That bullshit should be prosecuted heavily when it arises.
Too many ruined lives(i.e. lengthy prison sentences) as a result of tampered evidence.
who said they tried to delete it the known lier(the girl in the front seat or the girl in the back seat)
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who said they tried to delete it the known lier(the girl in the front seat or the girl in the back seat)
::) your Daddy a cop or what ?
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who said they tried to delete it the known lier(the girl in the front seat or the girl in the back seat)
I'm not even sure that they did.
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Because they do not have to.
Have you ever heard of habeas corpus?
What's fucking irritating beyond belief is to believe that we Have to be uber-obedient to what pigs say.
What's irritating beyond belief is the spread of false information that gets people in trouble. Example. 17 yr old truly believes he can have his mother present before complying with the officers directions. Just plain stupid
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100% in agreement with that one.
That bullshit should be prosecuted heavily when it arises.
Too many ruined lives(i.e. lengthy prison sentences) as a result of tampered evidence.
If the evidence shows a cop deleted the video, that would be tampering with evidence. He should be fired and charged with that. Stupid friggin thing to do if he did it. Digital Forensics should be able to determine if the video was deleted around the time of the accusation
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How do you handle a situation when the person refuses to exit the vehicle?
You repeat "sir please step out of the car" unil you go hoarse, or they fall asleep. Then you gently remove them. Standard SOP
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::) your Daddy a cop or what ?
lol the little boy was 17,give it a rest.were you a little girl like him when you were 17,is that why you can relate to him
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You repeat "sir please step out of the car" unil you go hoarse, or they fall asleep. Then you gently remove them. Standard SOP
:D :D it amazes me that some on here want to treat a 17 year old like 7
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what the hell is wrong with these people I would have been embarrass to post that video
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lol the little boy was 17,give it a rest.were you a little girl like him when you were 17,is that why you can relate to him
can you please tell me about your experience being armed and searching people or detaining individuals?
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what the hell is wrong with these people I would have been embarrass to post that video
Kidding???
THis is generation selfie GOLD!
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can you please tell me about your experience being armed and searching people or detaining individuals?
if your doing it your way god help us ;D
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I often take the cops side, but how can they smell weed before pulling them over?
The kids vocal reaction of "get the fuck off me man" is worthy of a beating itself. You don't use words like that in front of police officers, you won't look tough, just giving them a reason to use force.
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I often take the cops side, but how can they smell weed before pulling them over?
The kids vocal reaction of "get the fuck off me man" is worthy of a beating itself. You don't use words like that in front of police officers, you won't look tough, just giving them a reason to use force.
They were stopped for some vehiclur malfunction, and the officer smelled weed inside the car during the trafficstop.
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if your doing it your way god help us ;D
OK so no answer to my question. 8)
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They were stopped for some vehiclur malfunction, and the officer smelled weed inside the car during the trafficstop.
Ah, then they should pay more attention to the car and make sure it's working properly during their weed run.
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OK so no answer to my question. 8)
lets ask Agnostic007 he's a real cop,i'm sure he won't keep on asking them till he's blue in the face
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No one touches me till my mom gets here.
Wut a fatass puss. Talks tuff n wants his mom to rescue him. Law abiding people would say sure. I'll get out of the car. Non compliance like that tuff ass act immediately raises red flags. U know how ez it would be for that kid to pull out a gun? Funny how different people can perceive the same video so different. I'm no cop lover but I try to imagine myself in their position w my life on the line. I'm looking down at some arrogant cry baby being non compliant to a simple request. Stress begins to rise m U begin to wonder if this kid who's being an idiot may have a weapon. That kid hot Wut he had coming. And they find drugs in the car. Wut would mommy say bout that?
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No one touches me till my mom gets here.
Wut a fatass puss. Talks tuff n wants his mom to rescue him. Law abiding people would say sure. I'll get out of the car. Non compliance like that tuff ass act immediately raises red flags. U know how ez it would be for that kid to pull out a gun? Funny how different people can perceive the same video so different. I'm no cop lover but I try to imagine myself in their position w my life on the line. I'm looking down at some arrogant cry baby being non compliant to a simple request. Stress begins to rise m U begin to wonder if this kid who's being an idiot may have a weapon. That kid hot Wut he had coming. And they find drugs in the car. Wut would mommy say bout that?
If you think that was tough talk from the kid then where did you grow up ?
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I think every cop should carry one of these to get a 7 I mean 17 year old out of a car :D
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The cops wanted the driver. The I smell weed comment by the cop was the "You're about to be strip searched"...There's probably a fat lesbian cop that pay's other cops to find chicks for her to sexually abuse...
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As Princess L already posted, the news article;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-13993/Warning-Graphic-Brutal-beatdown-Lower-East-Side.html
Cliffnotes:
- Courtney Griffith (driver) stopped for a traffic violation (broken license plate light).
- Two other occupants, Brandon Wyne (17-year old kid in the backseat) and unnamed.
- Officer smells marihuana and asks occupants to step out of the vehicle.
- Brandon refuses to comply.
- Officer clearifies the occupants are being detained and demands they get out of the car again.
- subsequently Brandon forcefully gets removed from the vehicle.
- Atterney of Brandon claims the force was not necessary
- Courtney cries out police violence and claims; 1. The police attempted to delete the video, 2. Did not read the Miranda rights to her.
- Brandon is currently incarcerated in juvenile detention charged with assault, battery, obstruction of justice, and possession of marihuana with intent to sell.
- Courtney was given a ticket for having marihuana in her purse but charges were dismissed.
- Internal Affairs are investigating the whole incident and use of force (initiated prior to the surfacing of the video).
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I think every cop should carry one of these to get a 7 I mean 17 year old out of a car :D
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still no answer to back up your experience ? 8)
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As Princess L already posted, the news article;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-13993/Warning-Graphic-Brutal-beatdown-Lower-East-Side.html
Cliffnotes:
- Courtney Griffith (driver) stopped for a traffic violation (broken license plate light).
- Two other occupants, Brandon Wyne (17-year old kid in the backseat) and unnamed.
- Officer smells marihuana and asks occupants to step out of the vehicle.
- Brandon refuses to comply.
- Officer clearifies the occupants are being detained and demands they get out of the car again.
- subsequently Brandon forcefully gets removed from the vehicle.
- Atterney of Brandon claims the force was not necessary
- Courtney cries out police violence and claims; 1. The police attempted to delete the video, 2. Did not read the Miranda rights to her.
- Brandon is currently incarcerated in juvenile detention charged with assault, battery, obstruction of justice, and possession of marihuana with intent to sell.
- Courtney was given a ticket for having marihuana in her purse but charges were dismissed.
- Internal Affairs are investigating the whole incident and use of force (initiated prior to the surfacing of the video).
wait a minute she doesn't allow weed in her car, did the boys mommy know this :D :D :D :D maybe if he heard her voice he wouldn't sell weed :D :D :D
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we're here to protect and serve ICECREAM
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I'M ONLY SEVENTEEN 8) 8) 8) 8)
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I'M ONLY SEVENTEEN 8) 8) 8) 8)
LOL
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Based on my personal experiences with law enforcement and the legal system , this is my advice for young Getbiggers , wright or wrong you should always argue with cops, you will win the argument 99 times out of 100 , never say ''you are right sir'' ''I'm sorry '' , but if you do happen to get arrested (very rare) ,and you have to go to court ,arguing with the Judge is a must, don't let him treat you like a bitch ,show him who is the boss .
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Why didn't the guy tell them how old he was, or that he wanted his mother present before they touched him? Should've spoken up.
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Based on my personal experiences with law enforcement and the legal system , this is my advice for young Getbiggers , wright or wrong you should always argue with cops, you will win the argument 99 times out of 100 , never say ''you are right sir'' ''I'm sorry '' , but if you do happen to get arrested (very rare) ,and you have to go to court ,arguing with the Judge is a must, don't let him treat you like a bitch ,show him who is the boss .
best advice is don´t get caught... :D
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Based on my personal experiences with law enforcement and the legal system , this is my advice for young Getbiggers , wright or wrong you should always argue with cops, you will win the argument 99 times out of 100 , never say ''you are right sir'' ''I'm sorry '' , but if you do happen to get arrested (very rare) ,and you have to go to court ,arguing with the Judge is a must, don't let him treat you like a bitch ,show him who is the boss .
And wind up in contempt of court. :D
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1. Drug use should be as legal as alcohol with similar laws.
2. Traffic stops should be concerned with the driver's sobriety unless the guy in the back is seen hurriedly stuffing a severed head into a burlap sack.
3. Tasers were initally marketed as a way to reduce lethal force and the claim they would be abused as compliance tools was dismissed. Whoops.
4. "Then he should have complied." No. Hinky or not, non-compliance doesn't grant carte blanche to beat the shit out of someone who is just sitting there, not being a threat. There's a greater harm done in the beating than in the non-compliant sitting. Law enforcement is not a licence to assault the harmless, no matter how annoying you think they are. Campus protesters. Street corner cigarette sellers. Backseat stoners. The cop playbook only seems to call for an immediate and aggressive escalation to violence with non-violent people, as if there's no other possibility that's even worth trying before going to the taser or the spray. It's escalate to triumph. It's brinkmanship. It's stupid, dangerous, unjustified, and criminal, which is why so many people are getting shitty about it these days.
I speak, of course, of the way things should be. It's how they are that's the problem so don't be preaching me on the way of things.
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He gets it.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bc7_1428732891
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And wind up in contempt of court. :D
Nah , that's only in movies , that shit never happens in real life .
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Nah , that's only in movies , that shit never happens in real life .
;D ;D ;D
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Just tell them "no sir, not smoking weed, this is patchouli perfume"...
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He gets it.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bc7_1428732891
He got it until he mentioned the skylord.
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"I'm 17 years old! I'm 17 years old!"
LMAO! :D
I gotta admit, I actually found this hilarious. :D ;D
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He got it until he mentioned the skylord.
Eh, I let it slide.
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Based on my personal experiences with law enforcement and the legal system , this is my advice for young Getbiggers , wright or wrong you should always argue with cops, you will win the argument 99 times out of 100 , never say ''you are right sir'' ''I'm sorry '' , but if you do happen to get arrested (very rare) ,and you have to go to court ,arguing with the Judge is a must, don't let him treat you like a bitch ,show him who is the boss .
Solid everyday legal advice, easy to maintain without advanced intelligence or education.
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No one touches me till my mom gets here.
Wut a fatass puss. Talks tuff n wants his mom to rescue him. Law abiding people would say sure. I'll get out of the car. Non compliance like that tuff ass act immediately raises red flags. U know how ez it would be for that kid to pull out a gun? Funny how different people can perceive the same video so different. I'm no cop lover but I try to imagine myself in their position w my life on the line. I'm looking down at some arrogant cry baby being non compliant to a simple request. Stress begins to rise m U begin to wonder if this kid who's being an idiot may have a weapon. That kid hot Wut he had coming. And they find drugs in the car. Wut would mommy say bout that?
Even cops can look at a video and have varying opinions from other cops.
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In Texas, 17 is considered an adult... God bless Texas..
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"I'm 17 years old! I'm 17 years old!"
LMAO! :D
I gotta admit, I actually found this hilarious. :D ;D
I bet he was stoned and flipped out more than he normally would. I wonder if his parents had told him how to deal with cops.
He was baked and had weed on him . Cops could have gotten the same results with a better approach.
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you have to laugh here we have two people breaking the law the cops tell them to get out of the car the two don't listen so the police have to remove them and people are criticizing the police.nevermind the two were breaking the law lol
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Cliffnotes:
- Courtney Griffith (driver) stopped for a traffic violation (broken license plate light).
- Two other occupants, Brandon Wyne (17-year old kid in the backseat) and unnamed.
- Officer smells marihuana and asks occupants to step out of the vehicle.
- Brandon refuses to comply.
- Officer clearifies the occupants are being detained and demands they get out of the car again.
- subsequently Brandon forcefully gets removed from the vehicle.
- Atterney of Brandon claims the force was not necessary
- Courtney cries out police violence and claims; 1. The police attempted to delete the video, 2. Did not read the Miranda rights to her.
- Brandon is currently incarcerated in juvenile detention charged with assault, battery, obstruction of justice, and possession of marihuana with intent to sell.
- Courtney was given a ticket for having marihuana in her purse but charges were dismissed.
- Internal Affairs are investigating the whole incident and use of force (initiated prior to the surfacing of the video).
Another beautifully carried out routine stop by the pigs squad. The way they mismanage situations is just fucking laughable. Their hostility is... why are they so fucking pissed? What is their fucking problem? Are they THAT immature and drunk with power?
"Broken license plate light" leads to YET another vehicular stop-and-search. Officer "smells" marijuana and the rest is history.
IF it is true that one of the pigs tried deleting the video then their case, marijuana or not, does not have a leg to stand on.
The only possible outcome is that the county government is going to have to pay these folks big money to settle out of court, which will take away resources from the school system, road upkeep, et cetera.
And all because a fucking retard with a badge "smelled" marijuana.
This video is proof that pigs offer no value to the society they pretend to serve and protect. In fact, it's their deliberate hostility that is costing us human lives and money.
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I bet he was stoned and flipped out more than he normally would. I wonder if his parents had told him how to deal with cops.
He was baked and had weed on him . Cops could have gotten the same results with a better approach.
Could be.. have you ever considered becoming one?
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"Virginia Beach Police say they were unaware that anyone had recorded the video until Thursday, but that the internal investigation had already been initiated due to the use of force seen in the video.
The department says they immediately began investigating the incident on their own based on the officer’s self-reported Use of Force report and video captured from the officer’s TASER camera that was submitted the night of the incident.
The involved officer has been placed on administrative duty.
Courtney was issued a summons for a charge of Simple Possession of Marijuana. That charge was dismissed."
IF the/a officer deleted the video ALL charges take a back seat to that in my opinion. The greater danger to society is a cop who will destroy evidence that may show them in a bad light. That should be the focus of this investigation. We can argue should he have or shouldn't he have tasered or not.. no arguing about the right or wrong of deleting the video.
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IF the/a officer deleted the video ALL charges take a back seat to that in my opinion. The greater danger to society is a cop who will destroy evidence that may show them in a bad light. That should be the focus of this investigation. We can argue should he have or shouldn't he have tasered or not.. no arguing about the right or wrong of deleting the video.
All they have to do is look at when the video was deleted, look at the time in the cop's car and connect the dots. Easiest thing to do.
That the VBPD hasn't come out and denied the officer's tampering with the evidence is a clear sign that he did.
Right now they are just in damage control mode and meeting with all the lawyers to find some sort of "rea$onable" outcome.
In other words, bunch of streets are going to go unpaved, schools are going to have to cut some of their programs, property taxes will have to be increased.
If people think that all these major cock-ups by the po'lice do not have repercussions, you're in the Nile.
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All they have to do is look at when the video was deleted, look at the time in the cop's car and connect the dots. Easiest thing to do.
That the VBPD hasn't come out and denied the officer's tampering with the evidence is a clear sign that he did.
Right now they are just in damage control mode and meeting with all the lawyers to find some sort of "rea$onable" outcome.
In other words, bunch of streets are going to go unpaved, schools are going to have to cut some of their programs, property taxes will have to be increased.
If people think that all these major cock-ups by the po'lice do not have repercussions, you're in the Nile.
I think it really just indicates once again you are clueless. .
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Guess all that legal knowledge that little goof gleaned from the internet and Law and Order repeats didn't work out too good for him :). Good stop, good use of little force.
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Another beautifully carried out routine stop by the pigs squad. The way they mismanage situations is just fucking laughable. Their hostility is... why are they so fucking pissed? What is their fucking problem? Are they THAT immature and drunk with power?
"Broken license plate light" leads to YET another vehicular stop-and-search. Officer "smells" marijuana and the rest is history.
IF it is true that one of the pigs tried deleting the video then their case, marijuana or not, does not have a leg to stand on.
The only possible outcome is that the county government is going to have to pay these folks big money to settle out of court, which will take away resources from the school system, road upkeep, et cetera.
And all because a fucking retard with a badge "smelled" marijuana.
This video is proof that pigs offer no value to the society they pretend to serve and protect. In fact, it's their deliberate hostility that is costing us human lives and money.
You have a better idea? Should there be no Law Enforcement? Almost every society has some form of law enforcement to enforce the laws of said society.
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I think it really just indicates once again you are clueless. .
Source: Deep in your ass I presume.
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Three teenage white kids from suburbia and the fuzz uses pepper spray and tasers. LOL! They certainly handled that well. The only thing they didn't do was shoot them.
Take the keys out of the ignition, call for back up and wait. The idiot kids will eventually get out of the car. What's the hurry? There is no hurry. Hell, call in the hostage negotiators- make the whole thing last several hours and just collect more bogus OT.
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You have a better idea? Should there be no Law Enforcement? Almost every society has some form of law enforcement to enforce the laws of said society.
Better idea? Hell yeah, stop killing people! There should be law enforcement, that goes without saying.
What I am appalled at is at the belief that people can't tell the difference between good law enforcement and what we see in the USA. Cops here, by and large, SUCK. We know the following:
1. Cops have the 8th most dangerous job in America as of today;
2. Cops kill, roughly, about 1,200 civilians every year;
3. Civilians kill, roughly, 150 Cops per year;
4. There is ample evidence that Cops destroy evidence (turn off dashboard cams, delete personal private video files, et cetera);
5. There is ample evidence that Cops plant evidence;
6. Bad police work is one of the biggest financial drains in counties' budgets, having to spend a great deal of money on either settling cases out of court or having to pay teams of lawyers insane amounts of money for the actions of, most times, a single person;
7. The judicial system is rigged to give Cops the benefit of the doubt;
8. Cops never reprimand other Cops when they see the other Cop doing something illegal or alegal (planting evidence, putting the handcuffs on a guy they just shot multiple times in the back, et cetera);
9. Cops use very little common sense.
10. Cops now seem to be on "hunting" missions more than policing the streets. I know of AT LEAST 10 places in Yonkers where you can see prostitutes and drug dealers every night, yet county Cops seem strangely disinterested in them, choosing instead to "sit" on a local street and snap the first dumb ass that happens to be driving 11 mph over the speed limit or jumps a stop sign.
In summary, why are Cops so pissed off? What is wrong with American Cops? An American civilian is 8 times more likely to be killed by an armed officer of "The Law" than otherwise. Yet, they seem to have developed standard procedures for the whole of the US that would only make sense in the south Bronx at 3AM (extremely dangerous area of NYC). Their approach to civilian policing is, to say the least, hostile. I know back in the early 90s there was a very big initiative to militarize local law enforcement teams, but their tactics nowadays seem more like the tactics used in Fallujah in the early 90s than downtown LA or Chicago.
Are we seeing the beginnings of a police state? I mean... we're already seeing that they are willing to do to American civilians what no American soldier would ever do.
Killed by police (http://killedbypolice.net/) has lots more information about the bad cop epidemic in the US nowadays.
Check this one out:
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I'm glad that kid got tazed. Also glad he was a little bitch. Where's my mommy. Eat a fat black dick, here's your mommy. Honeys corpus that punk.
PS the driver looked fuvkable. Anyone know if she likes Middle Aged fat Jewish perma-bulkers.
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Why didn't the guy tell them how old he was, or that he wanted his mother present before they touched him? Should've spoken up.
lol
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Three teenage white kids from suburbia and the fuzz uses pepper spray and tasers. LOL! They certainly handled that well. The only thing they didn't do was shoot them.
Take the keys out of the ignition, call for back up and wait. The idiot kids will eventually get out of the car. What's the hurry? There is no hurry. Hell, call in the hostage negotiators- make the whole thing last several hours and just collect more bogus OT.
Call for backup.. back up gets there.. then what?
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Three teenage white kids from suburbia and the fuzz uses pepper spray and tasers. LOL! They certainly handled that well. The only thing they didn't do was shoot them.
Take the keys out of the ignition, call for back up and wait. The idiot kids will eventually get out of the car. What's the hurry? There is no hurry. Hell, call in the hostage negotiators- make the whole thing last several hours and just collect more bogus OT.
Yeah, because there is nothing else to do.. calls aren't holding.. ;)
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Agnostic has an answer for everything.
No matter what you say, remember, a cop ALWAYS has a better answer. They are just smarter than everyone else. Never wrong.
Was talking to a cop in my gym about police brutality and he had an answer for everything. Never heard him once say, "I dont know." Eventually, his answers were just so bogus and off the wall lol. You knew he was scrambling.
These cops must be hidden geniuses. They should all be working for NASA.
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Agnostic has an answer for everything.
No matter what you say, remember, a cop ALWAYS has a better answer. They are just smarter than everyone else. Never wrong.
Was talking to a cop in my gym about police brutality and he had an answer for everything. Never heard him once say, "I dont know." Eventually, his answers were just so bogus and off the wall lol. You knew he was scrambling.
These cops must be hidden geniuses. They should all be working for NASA.
When you are ready to bring this conversation back to an adult level SF, holler at me.
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When you are ready to bring this conversation back to an adult level SF, holler at me.
But its true. You can talk to anyone in any other profession and they are humble.
Cops have an answer and/or excuse for everything. I have rarely ever heard a cop say, "Oh shit, we really fucked up" or "I don't know."
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Call a meter maid. Have the meter maid put a boot on the car. All coppers go back to more important task. When dum-dum comes to the impound lot to retrieve her towed vehicle arrest her. Everybody wins. Plus the city can sell the impounded vehicle for money.
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But its true. You can talk to anyone in any other profession and they are humble.
Cops have an answer and/or excuse for everything. I have rarely ever heard a cop say, "Oh shit, we really fucked up" or "I don't know."
well SF, are you asking the cop .. cop questions? If I asked an NFL running back questions about offense.. I wouldn't get pissed if he answered them.
And I think in just todays post, I must have said I don't know at least a couple times
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Call a meter maid. Have the meter maid put a boot on the car. All coppers go back to more important task. When dum-dum comes to the impound lot to retrieve her towed vehicle arrest her. Everybody wins. Plus the city can sell the impounded vehicle for money.
We don't have meter maids available with a boot 24/7, don't know if they do or not.
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Call a meter maid. Have the meter maid put a boot on the car. All coppers go back to more important task. When dum-dum comes to the impound lot to retrieve her towed vehicle arrest her. Everybody wins. Plus the city can sell the impounded vehicle for money.
Where is the excitement in that? Much more amusing to taser and pepper spray. I'm sure the cops had a good laugh about the kid screaming. They probably sat down and laughed about it over a donut.
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I don't know about that city but here, officers are going call to call pretty much most of the shift. Sounds pretty inventive to suggest officers camp out by the car until hell freezes over in order to appease some people who refuse to follow simple orders. The fact is, they don't have all day in most cases and it's just a lack of understanding to suggest they while away the evening waiting for them to come out.. hostage negotiator? Really?
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Where is the excitement in that? Much more amusing to taser and pepper spray. I'm sure the cops had a good laugh about the kid screaming. They probably sat down and laughed about it over a donut.
Quality post ::)
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Agnostic has an answer for everything.
No matter what you say, remember, a cop ALWAYS has a better answer. They are just smarter than everyone else. Never wrong.
Was talking to a cop in my gym about police brutality and he had an answer for everything. Never heard him once say, "I dont know." Eventually, his answers were just so bogus and off the wall lol. You knew he was scrambling.
These cops must be hidden geniuses. They should all be working for NASA.
Sorta sounds like you, too. :-\
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Agnostic has an answer for everything.
No matter what you say, remember, a cop ALWAYS has a better answer. They are just smarter than everyone else. Never wrong.
Was talking to a cop in my gym about police brutality and he had an answer for everything. Never heard him once say, "I dont know." Eventually, his answers were just so bogus and off the wall lol. You knew he was scrambling.
These cops must be hidden geniuses. They should all be working for NASA.
Love to take a crack at those police brutality questions you were asking the cop in your gym....
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Quality post ::)
Are you saying that cops never have a good laugh at the expense of the people they taser, pepper spray or beat?
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Are you saying that cops never have a good laugh at the expense of the people they taser, pepper spray or beat?
I'm not qualified to speak on the behalf of all cops. I try to stick to what I know.
How about them questions. I promise you , if I don't know, I'll tell you
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Love to take a crack at those police brutality questions you were asking the cop in your gym....
If I can remember them, I will definitely ask. I'm sure the answers will be drastically different.
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If I can remember them, I will definitely ask. I'm sure the answers will be drastically different.
I'm almost certain you've already concluded the end result
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I'm almost certain you've already concluded the end result
Has nothing to do with whether or not your answers will be similar or different. Different states have varying laws, policies, and procedures.
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Has nothing to do with whether or not your answers will be similar or different. Different states have varying laws, policies, and procedures.
my bad..
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A007, SF1900 and I need to meet in the gym and settle this once and for all.
Smith Machine incline press- 225 for reps- loser leaves town (getbig) for 90 days.
We'll shoot video and post the action on youtube. Who's with me?
Drinks afterwards of course.
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Protect and serve. And save.