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Title: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on June 20, 2015, 01:15:02 PM
Peer into the mind of a psycho racist.....like some of you.  Some of the stuff sounds quite familar


(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/3097846/thumbs/o-ROOF-570.jpg?7)

You're welcome


https://web.archive.org/web/20150620134455/http://lastrhodesian.com/


https://web.archive.org/web/20150620135047/http://lastrhodesian.com/data/documents/rtf88.txt
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: obsidian on June 20, 2015, 01:30:47 PM
Here's another racists shooter - shot 10 and killed eight white people in Connecticut:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e9/Omar_S._Thornton.jpg/200px-Omar_S._Thornton.jpg)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartford_Distributors_shooting (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartford_Distributors_shooting)

How did the media react? They labeled the dead innocent white people racist and claimed Omar Thornton was not racist, even though he claimed he shot the "racist" white people. You gotta love the whore media peddling their stupid lies.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/08/04/dr-keith-ablow-connecticut-shooting-omar-racism-murder.html (http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/08/04/dr-keith-ablow-connecticut-shooting-omar-racism-murder.html)

All media execs and journalists / everyone working for these shitty media companies should be forced to live among blacks, or blacks settled in their neighborhoods. Let them celebrate the diversity they champion.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: obsidian on June 20, 2015, 01:32:09 PM
Another mass shooting of whites by a black. Again not a racist according to the whore media.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e5/Rodrick_Shonte_Dantzler.jpg/220px-Rodrick_Shonte_Dantzler.jpg)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Grand_Rapids,_Michigan_mass_murder (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Grand_Rapids,_Michigan_mass_murder)
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: obsidian on June 20, 2015, 01:34:39 PM
(https://prowhiteparty.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/around-blacks-never-relax.jpg)
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: 2Thick on June 20, 2015, 01:36:09 PM
Peer into the mind of a psycho racist.....like some of you.  Some of the stuff sounds quite familar


(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/3097846/thumbs/o-ROOF-570.jpg?7)

You're welcome


https://web.archive.org/web/20150620134455/http://lastrhodesian.com/


https://web.archive.org/web/20150620135047/http://lastrhodesian.com/data/documents/rtf88.txt


Brutal 11 inch arms. Monster 34 inch concave "chest". Epic pumpkin head bowl cut.

Should be shot himself just for desecrating a Gold's gym tanktop. Looks inbred as well.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: Parker on June 20, 2015, 01:56:39 PM
Here's another racists shooter - shot 10 and killed eight white people in Connecticut:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e9/Omar_S._Thornton.jpg/200px-Omar_S._Thornton.jpg)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartford_Distributors_shooting (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartford_Distributors_shooting)

How did the media react? They labeled the dead innocent white people racist and claimed Omar Thornton was not racist, even though he claimed he shot the "racist" white people. You gotta love the whore media peddling their stupid lies.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/08/04/dr-keith-ablow-connecticut-shooting-omar-racism-murder.html (http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/08/04/dr-keith-ablow-connecticut-shooting-omar-racism-murder.html)

All media execs and journalists / everyone working for these shitty media companies should be forced to live among blacks, or blacks settled in their neighborhoods. Let them celebrate the diversity they champion.
1st guy was caught stealing beer, forced to resign. Escorted out of building, was pissed at the "racist white folks", instead of looking at his actions---stealing beer is the reason. Disgruntled ex employee shoots up his former work place.

2nd case is a domestic violence incident. Both cases have nothing to do with the Church shooting, other than the people involved are black and white.
You are trying to make connections that are not there. Just like how people try to put Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown in the same category---other than being unarmed black men.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: SuperTed on June 20, 2015, 02:13:43 PM
Reading his writings, he actually seems a lot smarter than I thought he would be. That's what makes what he did even worse.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: Dr Dutch on June 20, 2015, 02:14:56 PM
I am not racist. I just hate everybody... 8)
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: Simple Simon on June 20, 2015, 02:15:47 PM
Peer into the mind of a psycho racist.....like some of you.  Some of the stuff sounds quite familar


(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/3097846/thumbs/o-ROOF-570.jpg?7)

You're welcome


https://web.archive.org/web/20150620134455/http://lastrhodesian.com/


https://web.archive.org/web/20150620135047/http://lastrhodesian.com/data/documents/rtf88.txt

TA?
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: Walter Sobchak on June 20, 2015, 02:16:03 PM
Peer into the mind of a psycho racist.....like some of you.  Some of the stuff sounds quite familar


(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/3097846/thumbs/o-ROOF-570.jpg?7)

You're welcome


https://web.archive.org/web/20150620134455/http://lastrhodesian.com/


https://web.archive.org/web/20150620135047/http://lastrhodesian.com/data/documents/rtf88.txt

Could be True Adonis' twin.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: robcguns on June 20, 2015, 02:23:23 PM
Get over it, you blacks are more racist than anyone but its not called racism when you do it.  So fuck off.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: AD2100 on June 20, 2015, 02:31:38 PM
Get over it,you blacks are more racist than anyone but its not called racism when you do it. So fuck off.
LOL
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: The Ugly on June 20, 2015, 02:38:49 PM
Why do we care what motivated him? A rage-filled nutjob, ANY issue would do. Can't fix this shit. I don't recall anyone getting twisted over the 'disinterested hot blonde' problem after Eliot Rodger shot up Santa Barbara.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: 2Thick on June 20, 2015, 02:42:15 PM
Why do we care what motivated him? A rage-filled nutjob, ANY issue would do. Can't fix this shit. I don't recall anyone getting twisted over the 'disinterested hot blondes' problem after Eliot Rodger shot up Santa Barbara.

The leftist loons think it can be "fixed" by putting even more gun laws into effect or taking guns away from law-abiding citizens - while the criminals like him will of course not turn theirs in. This nut and his father already broke every gun law in the book before he even fired the first shot.

If it wasn't a gun it would have been a bomb or an automobile, or poison, or something else.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: AD2100 on June 20, 2015, 02:46:48 PM
The leftist loons think it can be "fixed" by putting even more gun laws into effect or taking guns away from law-abiding citizens - while the criminals like him will of course not turn theirs in. This nut and his father already broke every gun law in the book before he even fired the first shot.

If it wasn't a gun it would have been a bomb or an automobile, or poison, or something else.
What is the solution proposed by the right wing nutjobs?
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: _aj_ on June 20, 2015, 02:49:02 PM
What is the solution proposed by the right wing nutjobs?

Not every crime has a "solution"
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: SF1900 on June 20, 2015, 02:53:45 PM
What is the solution proposed by the right wing nutjobs?

More guns? Everyone in that church should have been strapped, even the 85 year old grandma.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: The Ugly on June 20, 2015, 02:55:15 PM
Not every crime has a "solution"

Exactly. Until they outlaw crazy, shit will happen. This one in a Gun-Free Zone, whatever the hell that is. But it sorta indicates how much criminals respect gun laws.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: polychronopolous on June 20, 2015, 02:58:02 PM
Exactly. Until they outlaw crazy, shit will happen. This one in a Gun-Free Zone, whatever the hell that is. But it sorta indicates how much criminals respect gun laws.

That is where the vast majority of the mass shootings generally occur.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: The Ugly on June 20, 2015, 03:09:57 PM
That is where the vast majority of the mass shootings generally occur.

Pretty sure it's where I'd go if I had any such plans.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: Parker on June 20, 2015, 03:31:05 PM
Why do we care what motivated him? A rage-filled nutjob, ANY issue would do. Can't fix this shit. I don't recall anyone getting twisted over the 'disinterested hot blonde' problem after Eliot Rodger shot up Santa Barbara.
Always find out what the motivation
Reading his writings, he actually seems a lot smarter than I thought he would be. That's what makes what he did even worse.
He may have been smart, but he is a dork with some deep seated issues...
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: The Ugly on June 20, 2015, 03:33:13 PM
Always find out what the motivationHe may have been smart, but he is a dork with some deep seated issues...


Sure, but we already know.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: gmflex on June 20, 2015, 03:46:00 PM
Could be True Adonis' twin.



Didn't Adonis pose as Hitler fanatic?
Somebody had posted a pic a while back..
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: Marty Champions on June 20, 2015, 04:09:34 PM
Yeah he was smart ::)

Shouldve focused on flat earth or electricity
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: JasonH on June 20, 2015, 04:28:48 PM
Gold's Gym tank top = bodybuilding related.

Media will now blame steroids for his killing spree.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: _aj_ on June 20, 2015, 04:59:52 PM
Gold's Gym tank top = bodybuilding related.

Media will now blame steroids for his killing spree.

Steroids and guns are a lethal combination.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: Irongrip400 on June 20, 2015, 05:03:01 PM
Steroids and guns are a lethal combination.

We talking appendages or firearms here?
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: _aj_ on June 20, 2015, 05:04:41 PM
We talking appendages or firearms here?

Both! Roof didn't have the appendages, obviously.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: LittleJ on June 20, 2015, 05:55:53 PM
Sounds just like a getbigger. He would've fit right in with the getbig likes of Kwon_2, James28, Woten, Groink, Archer77, The Ugly, Overload, Ron, musclegirl, True Adonis, newmom, and 95 percent of everybody else.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: Royalty on June 20, 2015, 06:07:15 PM
This kid confessed to the crime, and he waived extradition.

He sounds like he has no regrets.

Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: AD2100 on June 20, 2015, 06:09:40 PM
Not every crime has a "solution"
This is what is known as a cop-out.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: LittleJ on June 20, 2015, 06:12:22 PM
I'm tired of these fucking thugs shooting up schools,  theaters, malls, and churches. You're not safe anywhere from these animals. I blame the pussy ass parents for giving little Dylan anything he wanted.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: The Ugly on June 20, 2015, 06:17:51 PM
Sounds just like a getbigger. He would've fit right in with the getbig likes of Kwon_2, James28, Woten, Groink, Archer77, The Ugly, Overload, Ron, musclegirl, True Adonis, newmom, and 95 percent of everybody else.

You're more racist than anyone here. Obsessed with race.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: Natural Man on June 20, 2015, 06:18:46 PM
Always find out what the motivationHe may have been smart, but he is a dork with some deep seated issues...

all these dudes always have been beated or bullied by colored people in their past. Always. And black people who hate white people are often racists cause they were ridiculed by them and are jealous. There s always an origin in every of these guys past. It s not gratuitous and doesnt stem from nowhere. So; you can be sure there are black people who are somewhat responsible for what led him to attack them.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: AD2100 on June 20, 2015, 06:36:25 PM
all these dudes always have been beated or bullied by colored people in their past. Always. And black people who hate white people are often racists cause they were ridiculed by them and are jealous. There s always an origin in every of these guys past. It s not gratuitous and doesnt stem from nowhere. So; you can be sure there are black people who are somewhat responsible for what led him to attack them.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/67/e9/6b/67e96bb3500309081ea31dfb44776362.jpg)
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: andreisdaman on June 20, 2015, 06:39:08 PM
Get over it,you blacks are more racist than anyone but its not calles racism when you do it.fuck off.

Looks like we've pissed off another newcomer........less than 700 posts...you need more experience here, son
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: andreisdaman on June 20, 2015, 06:39:58 PM
More guns? Everyone in that church should have been strapped, even the 85 year old grandma.

HA! :)
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: andreisdaman on June 20, 2015, 06:41:30 PM
Sounds just like a getbigger. He would've fit right in with the getbig likes of Kwon_2, James28, Woten, Groink, Archer77, The Ugly, Overload, Ron, musclegirl, True Adonis, newmom, and 95 percent of everybody else.

be prepared to be banned by Ron in 3....2.....1..
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: polychronopolous on June 20, 2015, 06:42:45 PM
be prepared to be banned by Ron in 3....2.....1..


Pm being sent as we speak.  :D
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: LittleJ on June 20, 2015, 06:48:27 PM
be prepared to be banned by Ron in 3....2.....1..

lol Ron barely reads getbig. He only bans people for talking about "top bodybuilding people"
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: andreisdaman on June 20, 2015, 07:00:00 PM
lol Ron barely reads getbig. He only bans people for talking about "top bodybuilding people"

That's why you're getting banned...he really believes he's one of the  "top bodybuilding people" :D..I just got myself banned as well :-[
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: _aj_ on June 20, 2015, 07:25:18 PM
This is what is known as a cop-out.

Oh really, genius? Every crime has a solution in your simple little world? How about rape? What's your solution there, smart guy? Vehicular homicide? The world when viewed through your tiny little lens must be quite simple indeed.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: The Ugly on June 20, 2015, 10:23:37 PM
Oh really, genius? Every crime has a solution in your simple little world? How about rape? What's your solution there, smart guy? Vehicular homicide? The world when viewed through your tiny little lens must be quite simple indeed.

It was an idiotic statement.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: robcguns on June 21, 2015, 04:53:50 AM
I'm tired of these fucking thugs shooting up schools,  theaters, malls, and churches. You're not safe anywhere from these animals. I blame the pussy ass parents for giving little Dylan anything he wanted.
      I live in mass about 25 min from boston.i turn on the news everyday at 6am and no bullshit every single day there is a shooting in dorchester usually multiple.Its a black area and everyday they shoot people,two weeks ago an 8 year old was shot in the ass tiding his bike.Now why is it everytime a white idiot shoots up some place we have news saying we need gun control yet blacks shooting each other every single fucking day amd no mention of gun control?Im so sick of this shit,they are turning this country into a warzone but no one gives a shit they only care when white people do it.
     Now if you read why dylan did what he did its basically the same as what i just wrote,do i agree with shooting up innocent black people in a church?absolutely not but i understand his rage as the blacks are ruining this country and its completely acceptable.He should have went to the ghetto and shot as many drug dealing,drive by shooting gang memebers as possible which if i were going to do something that would be what i would do.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: Pray_4_War on June 21, 2015, 05:01:17 AM
Anyone who shoots up a bunch of innocent people is a piece of shit and shout be treated harshly.....regardless of their race.

There are a lot of nuts in the world it seems.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: kreator on June 21, 2015, 05:04:14 AM
this is what happens when u take people out of their natural habitat, instead of adapting to the new enviroment they enforce their own culture and run into trouble, the rule of evolution is: You fucking adapt to the new enviroment not the other way around!
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: Parker on June 21, 2015, 05:30:20 AM
all these dudes always have been beated or bullied by colored people in their past. Always. And black people who hate white people are often racists cause they were ridiculed by them and are jealous. There s always an origin in every of these guys past. It s not gratuitous and doesnt stem from nowhere. So; you can be sure there are black people who are somewhat responsible for what led him to attack them.
he apparently had "black friends".
He talked about black men raping white women. Now, are we sure it's not "black men having sex with white women", or a "black man had sex with the woman I liked, so therefore I am pissed off"?
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: Papper on June 21, 2015, 05:47:23 AM
Yawn at the term "racist", everyone is racist and has always been despite what they say, so who cares.

You can dislike a "race" because of their collective characteristics, culture and actions and not because of their color.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: robcguns on June 21, 2015, 06:21:22 AM
he apparently had "black friends".
He talked about black men raping white women. Now, are we sure it's not "black men having sex with white women", or a "black man had sex with the woman I liked, so therefore I am pissed off"?

No,pretty sure its black men raping white women,goats,monkeys,etc. because they are not human and have no self control over their animal urges.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on June 21, 2015, 07:41:14 AM
No,pretty sure its black men raping white women,goats,monkeys,etc. because they are not human and have no self control over their animal urges.

You're really trolling today aren't you..... ::)
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: _aj_ on June 21, 2015, 07:48:13 AM
Vince, your thread title suggested that Roof "posted on Getbig". Can you post a link to his thread or his reply?

TIA.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: bigmc on June 21, 2015, 07:50:11 AM
Oh really, genius? Every crime has a solution in your simple little world? How about rape? What's your solution there, smart guy? Vehicular homicide? The world when viewed through your tiny little lens must be quite simple indeed.

aj

to commit a crime you need

the opportunity

the means

and the mindset

take out one of these and bingo it doesn't happen

in this case the gun was the means

its that simple

I appreciate your ingrained right to bear arms mindset

in this instance the access to the firearm was a huge factor

there is no counter argument
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: _aj_ on June 21, 2015, 07:53:58 AM
aj

to commit a crime you need

the opportunity

the means

and the mindset

take out one of these and bingo it doesn't happen

in this case the gun was the means

its that simple

I appreciate your ingrained right to bear arms mindset

in this instance the access to the firearm was a huge factor

there is no counter argument

I disagree to an extent. There are ample studies in the U.S. and UK that show that decrease in firearm availability does nothing to the overall violent crime rate. Since we are in the realm of hypotheticals anyway, i posit he could have run over the folks with his car in the parking lot. He chose the most expedient tool for his goal, not the only tool available.

In addition, his goal was to start a race war. By choosing a handgun as his tool, he insures that again, the most politically and culturally explosive Pandora's Box will be opened. Thus increasing the chances of his preferred outcome. Perversely, the progressive left is marching to his tune because it fits with their world narrative.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: bigmc on June 21, 2015, 07:55:49 AM
I disagree to an extent. There are ample studies in the U.S. and UK that show that decrease in firearm availability does nothing to the overall violent crime rate. Since we are in the realm of hypotheticals anyway, i posit he could have run over the folks with his car in the parking lot. He chose the most expedient tool for his goal, not the only tool available.

and there it is

I guess your mindset which is prevalent in your country

means that guns are here to stay

so are the mass shootings then

every freedom carriers a price
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: _aj_ on June 21, 2015, 08:00:29 AM
every freedom carriers a price

I guess that's the difference between us mentally enfeebled Yanks and our ennobled betters in the UK and EU. We understand that there is a price to be paid for freedom. You've so long ago become accustomed to your chains that you see them as a badge of honor.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: thegamechanger on June 21, 2015, 08:03:28 AM
i think big guns should be outlawed

anything over 15 inch arms

why? because theyre stronger and help in choking etc
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: pedro01 on June 21, 2015, 08:47:56 AM
I guess that's the difference between us mentally enfeebled Yanks and our ennobled betters in the UK and EU. We understand that there is a price to be paid for freedom. You've so long ago become accustomed to your chains that you see them as a badge of honor.

Yet US is nowhere nears the most "free" country in the world.

It's just something that Americans bandy about in ignorance of how much more freedom they would enjoy elsewhere in the world.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: Parker on June 21, 2015, 08:51:43 AM
Yet US is nowhere nears the most "free" country in the world.

It's just something that Americans bandy about in ignorance of how much more freedom they would enjoy elsewhere in the world.
We get to carry guns, legally. We get to speak out against our politicians, religious leaders, and most importantly, sue at will.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: SF1900 on June 21, 2015, 08:53:28 AM
Yet US is nowhere nears the most "free" country in the world.

It's just something that Americans bandy about in ignorance of how much more freedom they would enjoy elsewhere in the world.

x2.

Americans have been brainwashed into actually believing they are "free."  ::) ::) They think because they can buy a gun, that they are more "free" than other countries. This is what politicians have brainwashed them into believing. That, as long as you have your guns, nothing else matters. Politicians keep people happy by letting them have their guns, while keeping them enslaved and chained in MANY other ways. But as long as they have their gun, who cares about anything else!!
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: Parker on June 21, 2015, 08:55:38 AM
x2.

Americans have been brainwashed into actually believing they are "free."  ::) ::) They think because they can buy a gun, that they are more "free" than other countries. This is what politicians have brainwashed them into believing. That, as long as you have your guns, nothing else matters. Politicians keep people happy by letting them have their guns, while keeping them enslaved and chained in MANY other ways. But as long as they have their gun, who cares about anything else!!
Guns, guns, more guns...
Big guns, little guns, guns as big as your head.

Obama is probably biggest gun salesman in history.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: SF1900 on June 21, 2015, 08:55:43 AM
We get to carry guns, legally. We get to speak out against our politicians, religious leaders, and most importantly, sue at will.

They can do that in Europe, too. In fact, they do a lot better job at speaking out against their politicians and religious leaders than Americans do.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: SF1900 on June 21, 2015, 08:57:14 AM
Guns, guns, more guns...
Big guns, little guns, guns as big as your head.

Obama is probably biggest gun salesman in history.


I never said it was a democrat or republican thing. Its a "gun" thing. Americans are so blinded, that if you keep them preoccupied with one thing (let them have their gun), they forget all the other issues. Its like giving a 4-year old a really shiny, loud toy to keep them occupied for a few hours.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: _aj_ on June 21, 2015, 09:06:24 AM
I never said it was a democrat or republican thing. Its a "gun" thing. Americans are so blinded, that if you keep them preoccupied with one thing (let them have their gun), they forget all the other issues. Its like giving a 4-year old a really shiny, loud toy to keep them occupied for a few hours.

Strange. Do you feel the same way about the cost of your freedom of speech? Or would you cast that too distainfully on your pyre of righteousness? Oh wait, you already want to, you just call it "hate speech"
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: Parker on June 21, 2015, 09:08:36 AM
They can do that in Europe, too. In fact, they do a lot better job at speaking out against their politicians and religious leaders than Americans do.

well, uh...people have killed or tried to assassinate some of ours. But, in GB they have some extreme forms of tolerance
Such as that guy who basically is recruiting for ISIS
 http://www.cbsnews.com/news/recruiting-for-isis-60-minutes-2/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/recruiting-for-isis-60-minutes-2/)

They also are going thru a similar situation that we are with our illegal immigration situation.
I never said it was a democrat or republican thing. Its a "gun" thing. Americans are so blinded, that if you keep them preoccupied with one thing (let them have their gun), they forget all the other issues. Its like giving a 4-year old a really shiny, loud toy to keep them occupied for a few hours.
Of course it's not a repub or dem thing...

Yep...it's like that with "entertainment"---reality tv, porn, crappy music (look at all the awards shows), selfies, Sports---NBA Finals, Super Bowl, World Series...distractions abound.

The Romans knew this with Gladiator spectacles. As the Empire fell apart, they kept up the Gladiatoral events to keep the public's mind off of more important things.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: SF1900 on June 21, 2015, 09:15:28 AM
Strange. Do you feel the same way about the cost of your freedom of speech? Or would you cast that too distainfully on your pyre of righteousness? Oh wait, you already want to, you just call it "hate speech"

Calm down, grandpa. I don't want to do away with anyone's rights. They are all important.

The thing is that for gun nutters, once you give them their shiny toys (guns) they forget about everything else. Hell, Ive known people to vote for someone based on ONE fact--do they support gun rights or not. No other issue mattered. Yes, great strategy for picking the most effective leader.

I was over my friends house and I gave their 1 year old a really loud, shiny toy. Occupied for hours. Thats like a gun nutter. Give them a gun, and they are occupied forever, totally blind about anything else that matters.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: robcguns on June 21, 2015, 09:15:36 AM
You're really trolling today aren't you..... ::)
i dont troll
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on June 21, 2015, 09:21:31 AM
In America,the blacks fight will be against the Mexican's not the whites. The problem the blacks will have is the Mexican's are "guilt free".  Blacks won't be able to pull the guilt card. Mexican's already have a plan in place that for every Mexican killed by a black, they will take out that blacks entire bloodline.


(http://fakeposters.com.s3.amazonaws.com/results/2015/06/21/eb81n6u84i.jpg)
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: Parker on June 21, 2015, 09:27:32 AM
In America,the blacks fight will be against the Mexican's not the whites. The problem the blacks will have is the Mexican's are "guilt free".  Blacks won't be able to pull the guilt card. Mexican's already have a plan in place that for every Mexican killed by a black, they will take out that blacks entire bloodline.


(http://fakeposters.com.s3.amazonaws.com/results/2015/06/21/eb81n6u84i.jpg)
Ah, Mexicans imported slaves as well...
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: tommywishbone on June 21, 2015, 09:45:51 AM
looks like a militant Lloyd Christmas.

HAHAHAHA!   :D :D.   Excellent
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: _aj_ on June 21, 2015, 10:07:46 AM
Calm down, grandpa.

 :D
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: The Ugly on June 21, 2015, 10:15:50 AM
x2.

Americans have been brainwashed into actually believing they are "free."  ::) ::) They think because they can buy a gun, that they are more "free" than other countries. This is what politicians have brainwashed them into believing. That, as long as you have your guns, nothing else matters. Politicians keep people happy by letting them have their guns, while keeping them enslaved and chained in MANY other ways. But as long as they have their gun, who cares about anything else!!

I always hear this, and I'm probably just ignorant, but what freedoms do the Euros enjoy that we don't?

I know UK is pretty strict with "Hate Speech." Only a couple countries there have legalized cannabis, and we have probably as many decriminalized/legal states now to even that out. Obviously, few there have gun rights, but we're dismissing that one. 'Death with Dignity' (assisted suicide), we got three states now; Europe has five, so got us there.

Free enterprise? Is it easier to start a business in Europe, free from government regulation and taxation? I know we're getting worse and worse in this area, but we still got Texas.

Or are we twisting the definition to mean more access to "free" social services (at the expense of the oppressed taxpayer)? Wealthy Europeans have been relocating to the U.S. and elsewhere for years to escape those particular "freedoms."

Is it age of consent or drinking? What makes Europeans freer, serious question.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: James28 on June 21, 2015, 11:10:02 AM
I guess that's the difference between us mentally enfeebled Yanks and our ennobled betters in the UK and EU. We understand that there is a price to be paid for freedom. You've so long ago become accustomed to your chains that you see them as a badge of honor.

Mentally enfeebled sounds harsh but if the shoe fits ....

I've only been living in NZ for just over a year and only found out on Saturday that you legally buy guns here. It's not bandied around as election promises for dimwitted drones. Nor can I recall hearing or reading about mass shootings, the likes of what seems to happen weekly in the U.S.

BUT, we can agree on this, it ain't the guns. It's the people. There's something up with the yanks that makes them trigger happy.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: James28 on June 21, 2015, 11:13:59 AM
Sounds just like a getbigger. He would've fit right in with the getbig likes of Kwon_2, James28, Woten, Groink, Archer77, The Ugly, Overload, Ron, musclegirl, True Adonis, newmom, and 95 percent of everybody else.

I love watching you cry about being black  :-\

Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: SF1900 on June 21, 2015, 11:17:08 AM
I always hear this, and I'm probably just ignorant, but what freedoms do the Euros enjoy that we don't?

I know UK is pretty strict with "Hate Speech." Only a couple countries there have legalized cannabis, and we have probably as many decriminalized/legal states now to even that out. Obviously, few there have gun rights, but we're dismissing that one. 'Death with Dignity' (assisted suicide), we got three states now; Europe has five, so got us there.

Free enterprise? Is it easier to start a business in Europe, free from government regulation and taxation? I know we're getting worse and worse in this area, but we still got Texas.

Or are we twisting the definition to mean more access to "free" social services (at the expense of the oppressed taxpayer)? Wealthy Europeans have been relocating to the U.S. and elsewhere for years to escape those particular "freedoms."

Is it age of consent or drinking? What makes Europeans freer, serious question.

You missed the point.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: The Ugly on June 21, 2015, 11:20:32 AM
You missed the point.

Well played.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: _aj_ on June 21, 2015, 11:38:17 AM
Mentally enfeebled sounds harsh but if the shoe fits ....

I've only been living in NZ for just over a year and only found out on Saturday that you legally buy guns here. It's not bandied around as election promises for dimwitted drones. Nor can I recall hearing or reading about mass shootings, the likes of what seems to happen weekly in the U.S.

BUT, we can agree on this, it ain't the guns. It's the people. There's something up with the yanks that makes them trigger happy.

And I think you are missing my point also. It's not subtle, but for those in which freedom is defined as purely what the government allows you to do, it may be difficult to comprehend.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: Griffith on June 21, 2015, 11:51:31 AM
South Africa and Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) have great potential but are held back by the racist anti-white policies of their governments.

Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: The Ugly on June 21, 2015, 12:14:32 PM
And I think you are missing my point also. It's not subtle, but for those in which freedom is defined as purely what the government allows you to do, it may be difficult to comprehend.

If we're comparing countries, how else would it be defined?
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: BooRadley on June 21, 2015, 12:14:50 PM
We need 1,000 more like him.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: bigmc on June 21, 2015, 12:38:30 PM
I guess that's the difference between us mentally enfeebled Yanks and our ennobled betters in the UK and EU. We understand that there is a price to be paid for freedom. You've so long ago become accustomed to your chains that you see them as a badge of honor.

typical yank

you know nothing about the rest of the world

only 20 percent of you have passports ffs

keep polishing your gun while schools and churches get shot to shit

its way more important that you can be a gun wielding tough guy

than innocent people getting sprayed with bullets
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: The Ugly on June 21, 2015, 12:56:11 PM
typical yank

you know nothing about the rest of the world

only 20 percent of you have passports ffs

keep polishing your gun while schools and churches get shot to shit

its way more important that you can be a gun wielding tough guy

than innocent people getting sprayed with bullets

How does disarmament work on a practical level? Does everyone voluntarily turn them in at a local school gymnasium, or do cops go door to door?

Maybe 300 million, so this might take a while is all I'm saying.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: _aj_ on June 21, 2015, 01:13:23 PM
typical yank

you know nothing about the rest of the world

only 20 percent of you have passports ffs

keep polishing your gun while schools and churches get shot to shit

its way more important that you can be a gun wielding tough guy

than innocent people getting sprayed with bullets

 ::)
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: bigmc on June 21, 2015, 01:21:55 PM
How does disarmament work on a practical level? Does everyone voluntarily turn them in at a local school gymnasium, or do cops go door to door?

Maybe 300 million, so this might take a while is all I'm saying.

would take years in the states

the proliferation of guns makes it almost impossible

doesn't mean you cant aspire to that or make laws to support it

every time I see these idiots on youtube walking down the road with rifles cause the law says they can open carry

then refusing to cooperate with cops

I shake my head at that mentality

with something like guns you have to legislate against the lowest common denominators

the idiots that will get a gun and shoot people

the people wired wrong

people like aj in their lofty perch rattling on about home protection are ignoring the elephant in the room

and that elephant is guys like mr creepy getting a gun for his birthday and walking in to a church and smoking people

a civilian like that couldn't get a gun in the uk

they are kept amongst the criminal underground

hence even when you have the guys that ran the soldier over they had a shitty old replica gun with no bullets

in the states that was a massive shoot out multiple deaths
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: James28 on June 21, 2015, 01:26:01 PM
South Africa and Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) have great potential but are held back by the racist anti-white policies of their governments.



South Africa and Zimbabwe is finished. Even the educated blacks are leaving. I work with a few cool blacks (or used to up until today) and even they say they'll never go back as long as the ANC is in power.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: The Ugly on June 21, 2015, 01:39:44 PM
would take years in the states

the proliferation of guns makes it almost impossible

doesn't mean you cant aspire to that or make laws to support it

every time I see these idiots on youtube walking down the road with rifles cause the law says they can open carry

then refusing to cooperate with cops

I shake my head at that mentality

with something like guns you have to legislate against the lowest common denominators

the idiots that will get a gun and shoot people

the people wired wrong

people like aj in their lofty perch rattling on about home protection are ignoring the elephant in the room

and that elephant is guys like mr creepy getting a gun for his birthday and walking in to a church and smoking people

a civilian like that couldn't get a gun in the uk

they are kept amongst the criminal underground

hence even when you have the guys that ran the soldier over they had a shitty old replica gun with no bullets

in the states that was a massive shoot out multiple deaths

This part is most troubling. Modern underground isn't these sophisticated mafioso-types of yesteryear, who still had some sense of (albeit twisted) "ethics." Today's criminal would use them at will, and they'd sell them to anyone with cash.

Seems impossibly complicated.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SuperTed on June 21, 2015, 01:53:49 PM
I sometimes wonder what would happen if the American government try to enforce gun laws on the population. I think it could possibly lead to another civil war.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: The Ugly on June 21, 2015, 02:03:34 PM
I sometimes wonder what would happen if the American government try to enforce gun laws on the population. I think it could possibly lead to another civil war.

It certainly wouldn't be smooth.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 21, 2015, 02:32:20 PM
I am not racist. I just hate everybody... 8)

Except for the Oranges, fat women and fossils, holding a guitar..
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SF1900 on June 21, 2015, 02:54:47 PM
I must admit, I love when Americans say things like, "We are more free than any other country" or "Our country is better than your country." Yet, most of these people have never left America. Heck, most of them can't even identify most states on an American map, and they are trying to talk about the rest of the world lol.

The problem is that A LOT of Americans think everywhere else in the world is Iraq or Afghanistan.  When you ask Americans about other places in the world, they always says things like, "Who the hell would want to live in Iraq? You should be happy you live in the US." Or they say something like, "Fine, if you think America sucks, go live in Afghanistan, and see how much you like it." Americans have this weird vision that there is no other place to live except America or Afghanistan lol.

I guess they forgot the MANY other places which are also great places to live.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: Yamcha on June 21, 2015, 02:59:37 PM
I must admit, I love when Americans say things like, "We are more free than any other country" or "Our country is better than your country." Yet, most of these people have never left America. Heck, most of them can't even identify most states on an American map, and they are trying to talk about the rest of the world lol.

The problem is that A LOT of Americans think everywhere else in the world is Iraq or Afghanistan.  When you ask Americans about other places in the world, they always says things like, "Who the hell would want to live in Iraq? You should be happy you live in the US." Or they say something like, "Fine, if you think America sucks, go live in Afghanistan, and see how much you like it." Americans have this weird vision that there is no other place to live except America or Afghanistan lol.

I guess they forgot the MANY other places which are also great places to live.

Jealousy is a bad look on you.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SF1900 on June 21, 2015, 03:01:09 PM
Jealousy is a bad look on you.

Cool. But I live in America, you idiot.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: _aj_ on June 21, 2015, 03:12:10 PM
would take years in the states

the proliferation of guns makes it almost impossible

doesn't mean you cant aspire to that or make laws to support it

every time I see these idiots on youtube walking down the road with rifles cause the law says they can open carry

then refusing to cooperate with cops

I shake my head at that mentality

with something like guns you have to legislate against the lowest common denominators

the idiots that will get a gun and shoot people

the people wired wrong

people like aj in their lofty perch rattling on about home protection are ignoring the elephant in the room

and that elephant is guys like mr creepy getting a gun for his birthday and walking in to a church and smoking people

a civilian like that couldn't get a gun in the uk

they are kept amongst the criminal underground

hence even when you have the guys that ran the soldier over they had a shitty old replica gun with no bullets

in the states that was a massive shoot out multiple deaths

I don't expect an Englishman to understand the concept that truly free men are free to bear arms, but your willful obstinacy is overdone.

And yes, I don't expect you to even remotely share my opinion that the second amendment to the United States constitution was put in expressly to allow free citizens to oppose their government should that government become tyrannical.

You can scoff, but the Swiss train every man and woman under 60 to repel invaders. I would wager that the chances of the U.S. Government under an autocratic administration becoming tyrannical are far greater than the Swiss being invaded by a standing army.

You DON'T understand Americans and that's ok, I don't understand your love of perpetual serfdom.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: Yamcha on June 21, 2015, 03:18:26 PM
Cool. But I live in America, you idiot.

You shouldn't with that attitude.  :P
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SF1900 on June 21, 2015, 03:19:51 PM
You shouldn't with that attitude.  :P

Great, thanks for the information, but I really don't care what you think.  :D :D
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: Yamcha on June 21, 2015, 03:23:20 PM
Great, thanks for the information, but I really don't care what you think.  :D :D

No one does man. That's why I'm probably going to go shoot up a church or school...

On a serious note, I'm with you on the gun control when it comes to the larger weapons. I cannot fathom a time when an civilian needs something of that magnitude other than to overcompensate for having a small dick
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: _aj_ on June 21, 2015, 03:26:04 PM
No one does man. That's why I'm probably going to go shoot up a church or school...

On a serious note, I'm with you on the gun control when it comes to the larger weapons. I cannot fathom a time when an civilian needs something of that magnitude other than to overcompensate for having a small dick

Define "larger weapon".
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: Yamcha on June 21, 2015, 03:27:01 PM
Define "larger weapon".

You know exactly which ones I'm talking about...  ;)
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SF1900 on June 21, 2015, 03:30:57 PM
You know exactly which ones I'm talking about...  ;)

The issue becomes when the 2nd amendment is taking to an extreme. You know, guys with AK 47's walking into Toys R' Us or the ice cream parlor with a bunch of kids around. And what's scary: There are actual gun nutters who are okay with this. I am all for 2nd Amendment rights, but I think this should be outlawed. Now one can say: Well, a robber may come into the ice cream parlor. Sure, and I can cross the street and  get hit by a truck. Anything can happen, but it wreaks of paranoia and delusion. Yes, nothing wrong with carrying a rifle into an ice cream parlor with a bunch of kids.

These gun nutters are absolutely insane!!
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: _aj_ on June 21, 2015, 03:32:08 PM
You know exactly which ones I'm talking about...  ;)

Nope. Mortars? Artillery? Surface to air missiles? I'm afraid you'll have to be actually specific. I know this might be challenge as you actually haven't the slightest clue what you are talking about.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: Yamcha on June 21, 2015, 03:34:13 PM
Nope. Mortars? Artillery? Surface to air missiles? I'm afraid you'll have to be actually specific. I know this might be challenge as you actually haven't the slightest clue what you are talking about.

Well what qualifications do I need to be entitled to an opinion on the matter?
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SF1900 on June 21, 2015, 03:39:19 PM
Well what qualifications do I need to be entitled to an opinion on the matter?

You cannot argue with a gun nutter. If it was  up to them, they would own bazooks, tanks, grenades, etc. They say that is not true, but if given the opportunity, they would 100% take any opportunity to get their hands on any type of weapon they could.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: _aj_ on June 21, 2015, 03:44:11 PM
You cannot argue with a gun nutter. If it was  up to them, they would own bazooks, tanks, grenades, etc. They say that is not true, but if given the opportunity, they would 100% take any opportunity to get their hands on any type of weapon they could.

It's true. The 1932 Supreme Court decision Miller v. United States affirmed that the second amendment ONLY protects military weaponry, not guns for "sporting purposes". The plain history of the constitution shows that the framers thought that The People had the rights to the same weapons as the military. So, if I can afford it, I should be able to own it.

I am sorry that you cannot comprehend such a thing.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: SF1900 on June 21, 2015, 03:44:31 PM
I don't expect an Englishman to understand the concept that truly free men are free to bear arms, but your willful obstinacy is overdone.

And yes, I don't expect you to even remotely share my opinion that the second amendment to the United States constitution was put in expressly to allow free citizens to oppose their government should that government become tyrannical.

You can scoff, but the Swiss train every man and woman under 60 to repel invaders. I would wager that the chances of the U.S. Government under an autocratic administration becoming tyrannical are far greater than the Swiss being invaded by a standing army.

You DON'T understand Americans and that's ok, I don't understand your love of perpetual serfdom.

Obviously, being an American is only a PART of it, as I am an American and I do not understand the obsession with guns. And as someone who was born and raised in America, I probably have similar experiences than you.

It more likely has to do with a specific personality style that draws someone into loving guns, as opposed from being in a particular culture, since there are MANY americans who do not understand your obsession with guns.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SF1900 on June 21, 2015, 03:47:11 PM
It's true. The 1932 Supreme Court decision Miller v. United States affirmed that the second amendment ONLY protects military weaponry, not guns for "sporting purposes". The plain history of the constitution shows that the framers thought that The People had the rights to the same weapons as the military. So, if I can afford it, I should be able to own it.

I am sorry that you cannot comprehend such a thing.

I don't care what the constitution says, in the same way that I don't care what the bible says. Though, I obviously give much more credibility to the constitution than the bible. Sometimes old documents do not fit in with today's standards. Its often like fitting a square peg into a hole. Eventually, something has to change based on the available evidence.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: _aj_ on June 21, 2015, 03:47:33 PM
Obviously, being an American is only a PART of it, as I am an American and I do not understand the obsession with guns. And as someone who was born and raised in America, I probably have similar experiences than you.

It more likely has to do with a specific personality style that draws someone into loving guns, as opposed from being in a particular culture, since there are MANY americans who do not understand your obsession with guns.

It is a cultural thing, I suppose. I ascribe to a cultural heritage of individualism, personal freedom and individual responsibility. It saddens me to see how much of America disdains those values.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: _aj_ on June 21, 2015, 03:49:48 PM
I don't care what the constitution says, in the same way that I don't care what the bible says. Though, I obviously give much more credibility to the constitution than the bible. Sometimes old documents do not fit in with today's standards. Its often like fitting a square peg into a hole. Eventually, something has to change based on the available evidence.

The constitution did not foresee the Internet, so I suppose that invalidates the first amendment? I see you subscribe to the progressive notions of "Constitutional" being defined as "something that I agree with"
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: SF1900 on June 21, 2015, 03:50:20 PM
It is a cultural thing, I suppose. I ascribe to a cultural heritage of individualism, personal freedom and individual responsibility. It saddens me to see how much of America disdains those values.

Its not a totally cultural thing, since there are MANY americans who do not believe in your gun obsession. So, it is a cultural thing, but to a LIMITED extent. It cannot be fully explained by culture. If it can be FULLY explained by culture, then EVERY American would hold the same exact values regarding gun ownership. They do not, thus, it is not totally a "cultural thing," as you so eloquently described. There must be other factors at play that make you obsessed with guns, whereas I am not. Its probably a mixture of larger cultural values (distal factors), as well as more proximal factors such as family, peers, local culture, as well as personality and temperamental style.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: _aj_ on June 21, 2015, 03:51:36 PM
Its not a totally cultural thing, since there are MANY americans who do not believe in your gun obsession. So, it is a cultural thing, but to a LIMITED extent. It cannot be fully explained by culture. If it can be FULLY explained by culture, then EVERY American would hold the same exact values regarding gun ownership. They do not, thus, it is not totally a "cultural thing," as you so eloquently described. There must be other factors at play that make you obsessed with guns, whereas I am not. Its probably a mixture of larger cultural values (distal factors), as well as more proximal factors such as family, peers, local culture, as well as personality and temperamental style.

Why do you assume that all of America shares the same cultural values?
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: SF1900 on June 21, 2015, 03:53:38 PM
Why do you assume that all of America shares the same cultural values?

I do? Reread what I wrote. I am saying the TOTAL opposite.

Please take your geritol and your mens mega multi-vitamin for better processing speed and memory and get back to me.

Thank you.

Your friend,

SF1900
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: geeizback on June 21, 2015, 03:56:55 PM
what do americans think of the milky bar kid?

loveable confectionery protector of the faith or dangerous anarchic vigilante?


I've never had a single positive experience with firearms. as I get older I find the rationale to own one ever more dangerous. but it is I suppose a constitutional right and at least the US has a formal constitution. we don't. and there are pro's and cons to both.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: geeizback on June 21, 2015, 03:58:34 PM
what is clear however is without his gun this crackpot wouldn't have put 9 innocent people in their graves. there was no 'defence' here. just a loon unable to garner any power or influence through intellect or strength hiding behind a gun.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: K A N N I B A L on June 21, 2015, 04:01:34 PM


And yes, I don't expect you to even remotely share my opinion that the second amendment to the United States constitution was put in expressly to allow free citizens to oppose their government should that government become tyrannical.


You dont find that ideal a little dated and impractical? If the government was democratically elected, which individuals decide theyve become tyrannical?
And how in the hell is this overthrow going to be initiated and coordinated?
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: SF1900 on June 21, 2015, 04:07:41 PM
You dont find that ideal a little dated and impractical? If the government was democratically elected, which individuals decide theyve become tyrannical?
And how in the hell is this overthrow going to be initiated and coordinated?

Gun nutters tend to be paranoid.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: K A N N I B A L on June 21, 2015, 04:31:43 PM
Not being from the US, I don't understand this whole sacred constitution.
Given bearing arms has resulted in far more civilian on civilian violence, than uprising against corrupt governments, it may be a time for a rethink? Or do the majority want to live by a set of rules made 100's of years ago?
Things change...Adherence to a set of ideals that were made in times way different than now seems so backward.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: The True Adonis on June 21, 2015, 04:35:21 PM
Not being from the US, I don't understand this whole sacred constitution.
Given bearing arms has resulted in far more civilian on civilian violence, than uprising against corrupt governments, it may be a time for a rethink? Or do the majority want to live by a set of rules made 100's of years ago?
Things change...Adherence to a set of ideals that were made in times way different than now seems so backward.
Most people in the United States still live in rural areas.

Its a good idea to have something to protect yourself as it can take 30 minutes or longer for police to arrive in a large number of areas in our country.  Do you really want to take that chance?


Your country is not spread out like that I am sure.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: The Scott on June 21, 2015, 04:36:55 PM
Not being from the US, I don't understand this whole sacred constitution.
Given bearing arms has resulted in far more civilian on civilian violence, than uprising against corrupt governments, it may be a time for a rethink? Or do the majority want to live by a set of rules made 100's of years ago?
Things change...Adherence to a set of ideals that were made in times way different than now seems so backward.

Freedom is not "backward".  I don't own a gun but that doesn't mean other Americans shouldn't.  
Proceed.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: The True Adonis on June 21, 2015, 05:45:25 PM
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Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: The True Adonis on June 21, 2015, 05:46:28 PM
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Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SF1900 on June 21, 2015, 05:48:55 PM
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TA, are you a gun owner? If so, what kind of firearms do you have? Does your wife also shoot?
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: _aj_ on June 21, 2015, 05:52:56 PM
Not being from the US, I don't understand this whole sacred constitution.

I think you can just stop here.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: The Scott on June 21, 2015, 05:56:01 PM
I think you can just stop here.

Tell him, brother.  The reason America isn't under anyone's thumb is because we gave 'em the finger. 

Here's to the Army and Navy and the battles they have won; here's to America's colors, the colors that never run. 

May the wings of liberty never lose a feather.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SF1900 on June 21, 2015, 06:04:11 PM
Tell him, brother.  The reason America isn't under anyone's thumb is because we gave 'em the finger. 

Here's to the Army and Navy and the battles they have won; here's to America's colors, the colors that never run. 

May the wings of liberty never lose a feather.

But that is the issue: We spent so many years and effort fighting other countries for freedom, that we failed to see how our own people (rich powerful Americans) are enslaving our nation through power and corruption. Maybe Americans should start caring more about how our own people are enslaving us.

We really are free in so many little ways.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: The Ugly on June 21, 2015, 06:05:06 PM
But that is the issue: We spent so many years and effort fighting other countries for freedom, that we failed to see how our own people (rich powerful Americans) are enslaving our nation through power and corruption. Maybe Americans should start caring more about how our own people are enslaving us.

We really are free in so many little ways.

Enslaved?
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: _aj_ on June 21, 2015, 06:10:13 PM
Enslaved?

I tend to agree with my enlightened brother here. Economic enslavement is very real. I blame the TBTF banks and the corporatist/political class nexus (both parties are corrupt as fuck)

Politician, tree, rope: some assembly required.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: The Scott on June 21, 2015, 06:15:04 PM
But that is the issue: We spent so many years and effort fighting other countries for freedom, that we failed to see how our own people (rich powerful Americans) are enslaving our nation through power and corruption. Maybe Americans should start caring more about how our own people are enslaving us.

We really are free in so many little ways.

I think we should take care of our own before we go helping other nations.  To be honest, outside of our allies I could care less about so many other nations, especially so the ones that hate us, ridicule us and still take aid from us.

Worse still are the ones that take lives from us.  Libtards want nothing more than to take more and so too do the faux conservatives.  Politics is big business and the main business seems to be centered on giving the WORKING citizenry the business and all in the name of "fairness".  John once told me that in D.C. there's two sides to every coin and they're not "heads", they're asses.   ;D
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SF1900 on June 21, 2015, 06:23:38 PM
I think we should take care of our own before we go helping other nations.  To be honest, outside of our allies I could care less about so many other nations, especially so the ones that hate us, ridicule us and still take aid from us.

Worse still are the ones that take lives from us.  Libtards want nothing more than to take more and so too do the faux conservatives.  Politics is big business and the main business seems to be centered on giving the WORKING citizenry the business and all in the name of "fairness".  John once told me that in D.C. there's two sides to every coin and they're not "heads", they're asses.   ;D


I agree. But my main point still holds: We have done a good job of protecting our freedom by fighting another nations, but we have failed to realize how our own people (rich elite) are enslaving us.

Most people don't realize that its not an issue of democrat or republican. Its an issue of the rich, powerful elite and everyone else. 5 banks rigged the world currency and NOT ONE was thrown in jail. This is a huge issue. We are slaves to these people, both democrat and republican. Look at all the poor, southern republicans living in trailer park homes. Why aren't republicans outside of citibank protesting when they rigged the world currency? Instead, they are protesting gay marriage. Bunch of morons.  ::) ::) This is what republican candidates do. They play up social issues (family values, gay marriage, abortion) to keep the people focused on those things, while they stuff their rich pockets. Shit, you think republican voters would see right through this. Nope.

Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: The Scott on June 21, 2015, 06:30:06 PM
I agree. But my main point still holds: We have done a good job of protecting our freedom by fighting another nations, but we have failed to realize how our own people (rich elite) are enslaving us.

Most people don't realize that its not an issue of democrat or republican. Its an issue of the rich, powerful elite and everyone else. 5 banks rigged the world currency and NOT ONE was thrown in jail. This is a huge issue. We are slaves to these people, both democrat and republican. Look at all the poor, southern republicans living in trailer park homes. Why aren't republicans outside of citibank protesting when they rigged the world currency? Instead, they are protesting gay marriage. Bunch of morons.  ::) ::) This is what republican candidates do. They play up social issues (family values, gay marriage, abortion) to keep the people focused on those things, while they stuff their rich pockets. Shit, you think republican voters would see right through this. Nope.
I can only vote my conscience in the Republican Primary, the rest of the time I am forced, like so many others on both sides of the fence, to vote for what I consider to be the lesser of two evils.   It is what it is and I doubt it will ever change for the better but still I will continue to hope. 

And vote according to my principals as best as I possibly can. 
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SF1900 on June 21, 2015, 06:30:47 PM
I can only vote my conscience in the Republican Primary, the rest of the time I am forced, like so many others on both sides of the fence, to vote for what I consider to be the lesser of two evils.   It is what it is and I doubt it will ever change for the better but still I will continue to hope.  

And vote according to my principals as best as I possibly can.  

Seems like republicans are benefiting from handouts at an almost similar rate as democrats. Hmmmm.

The survey finds that among those who voted for President Obama last month, 59% say they’ve benefited from a major entitlement program. It also finds that 53% of those who supported Mitt Romney have benefited from a major entitlement program.

The survey also finds that most Democrats (60%) and Republicans (52%) say they have benefited from a major entitlement program at some point in their lives.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: The Scott on June 21, 2015, 06:37:37 PM
Seems like republicans are benefiting from handouts at an almost similar rate as democrats. Hmmmm.

The survey finds that among those who voted for President Obama last month, 59% say they’ve benefited from a major entitlement program. It also finds that 53% of those who supported Mitt Romney have benefited from a major entitlement program.

The survey also finds that most Democrats (60%) and Republicans (52%) say they have benefited from a major entitlement program at some point in their lives.


Some benefit but I would hazard the guess that it is at the expense of (again) those that work.  My older brother cannot afford health insurance under Obama's rule and as such they are penalized out the wazoo.  Neither can they afford to give employees health benefits in their small business so they have no employees. 

It may well be that some "entitlements" are an extension of the "Great Society".  Communal living was tried here in the early days of colonization and failed miserably.  In closing I would say that it is one thing to have benefitted from an entitle program at some point in your life and quite another to live your entire life on them.  Not right no matter one's political affiliation or lack thereof.

Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: dr.chimps on June 21, 2015, 06:41:17 PM
I can only vote my conscience in the Republican Primary, the rest of the time I am forced, like so many others on both sides of the fence, to vote for what I consider to be the lesser of two evils.   It is what it is and I doubt it will ever change for the better but still I will continue to hope. 

And vote according to my principals as best as I possibly can. 
Liar. You're a dyspeptic, hateful, hypocritical weasel. God bless. 
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SF1900 on June 21, 2015, 06:43:13 PM
Some benefit but I would hazard the guess that it is at the expense of (again) those that work.  My older brother cannot afford health insurance under Obama's rule and as such they are penalized out the wazoo.  Neither can they afford to give employees health benefits in their small business so they have no employees.  

It may well be that some "entitlements" are an extension of the "Great Society".  Communal living was tried here in the early days of colonization and failed miserably.  In closing I would say that it is one thing to have benefitted from an entitle program at some point in your life and quite another to live your entire life on them.  Not right no matter one's political affiliation or lack thereof.



Well, until there is evidence about the length of time that one is on government programs, its all speculation. You know, me being a dirty liberal/democrat, I actually care about evidence (Im really not a liberal/democrat), unlike conservatives/republicans.  ;D ;D So, you may be right that dems are on government programs longer, but you may be wrong. I do not know what the evidence says about that. Thus, I can't speak on that.

As for your brother, if he couldn't afford insurance under Obamas plan, then he sure as shit can't afford insurance under any other private insurance program. But I guess the difference is that he is now being penalized for that. Sucks. Does he make too much for medicaid?
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: The Scott on June 21, 2015, 06:44:03 PM
Liar. You're a dyspeptic, hateful, hypocritical weasel. God bless. 

Thanks, kiddo. I  think you're a real Lancelot Link.  A paragon of simian virtue.  A beacon of bananas giving hope to chimps everywhere.  Buddha bless.

Feel better? I doubt it.  ::) ;D

Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: The Scott on June 21, 2015, 06:46:41 PM
Well, until there is evidence about the length of time that one is on government programs, its all speculation. You know, me being a dirty liberal/democrat, I actually care about evidence (Im really not a liberal/democrat), unlike conservatives/republicans.  ;D ;D So, you may be right that dems are on government programs longer, but you may be wrong. I do not know what the evidence says about that. Thus, I can't speak on that.

As for your brother, if he couldn't afford insurance under Obamas plan, then he sure as shit can't afford insurance under any other private insurance program. But I guess the difference is that he is now being penalized for that. Sucks.

Not everyone that works for a living is a conservative, just as not everyone that is on the public dole is a liberal.  I have no idea what the percentages are and could care less.  I want people to work and be productive as it's good for all concerned. 
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SF1900 on June 21, 2015, 06:48:32 PM
Not everyone that works for a living is a conservative, just as not everyone that is on the public dole is a liberal.  I have no idea what the percentages are and could care less.  I want people to work and be productive as it's good for all concerned. 

Well, one would think you would know the percentages of that, since you're always implying (not directly) that all liberals are lazy and on the government dole, and all republicans are hardworkers and never go on government assistance. Sounds like you do care more than you let on.  :D :D
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: dr.chimps on June 21, 2015, 06:49:09 PM
Thanks, kiddo. I  think you're a real Lancelot Link.  A paragon of simian virtue.  A beacon of bananas giving hope to chimps everywhere.  Buddha bless.

Feel better? I doubt it.  ::) ;D


Blowhards have a hard time editing themselves.

/try harder.

// i grade on a curve
  
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: The Scott on June 21, 2015, 06:50:27 PM
Well, one would think you would know the percentages of that, since you're always implying (not directly) that all liberals are lazy and on the government dole, and all republicans are hardworkers and never go on government assistance. Sounds like you do care more than you let on.  :D :D

Nah.  My some of my relatives are quite liberal and very Jewish.  They work hard but they also are liberal. It is my experience that no one group has exclusive rights to being right.

Or wrong.

 ;D
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: calfzilla on June 21, 2015, 06:53:19 PM
Sf1900 gun grabbing in this thread.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: The Scott on June 21, 2015, 06:54:23 PM
Blowhards have a hard time editing themselves.

/try harder.

// i grade on a curve
  

That's it?  Are you serious?  I am not come to teach you anything little man, least of all manners.    Go for it, little one.  Make an even bigger chimp of yourself.   Good luck with that, boy.

Simpleton.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SF1900 on June 21, 2015, 06:54:33 PM
Nah.  My some of my relatives are quite liberal and very Jewish.  They work hard but they also are liberal. It is my experience that no one group has exclusive rights to being right.

Or wrong.


 ;D

Except the ones with the evidence.  :D :D

We all know the well know republican bias against evidence.  ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: The Scott on June 21, 2015, 06:58:41 PM
Except the ones with the evidence.  :D :D

We all know the well know republican bias against evidence.  ;) ;D ;D

Heck yeah!  I've heard nothing but from my aunts for years now.   ;D  They wouldn't lie to me so I think they really believe it.  I love them and according to them while blood is thicker than water it's not thicker than my skull.  ;D
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: The True Adonis on June 21, 2015, 07:09:25 PM
I tend to agree with my enlightened brother here. Economic enslavement is very real. I blame the TBTF banks and the corporatist/political class nexus (both parties are corrupt as fuck)

Politician, tree, rope: some assembly required.
::)

Yes, because the mom and pop establishment will save America writ large.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: The True Adonis on June 21, 2015, 07:12:41 PM
I agree. But my main point still holds: We have done a good job of protecting our freedom by fighting another nations, but we have failed to realize how our own people (rich elite) are enslaving us.

Most people don't realize that its not an issue of democrat or republican. Its an issue of the rich, powerful elite and everyone else. 5 banks rigged the world currency and NOT ONE was thrown in jail. This is a huge issue. We are slaves to these people, both democrat and republican. Look at all the poor, southern republicans living in trailer park homes. Why aren't republicans outside of citibank protesting when they rigged the world currency? Instead, they are protesting gay marriage. Bunch of morons.  ::) ::) This is what republican candidates do. They play up social issues (family values, gay marriage, abortion) to keep the people focused on those things, while they stuff their rich pockets. Shit, you think republican voters would see right through this. Nope.


Rigged the currency?  ???
What precisely would one be protesting for?   ???

Whats your solution or what is a solution that you have heard of (to what problem exactly)?  

Where is this slavery you speak of and can I buy anyone for sale?  ;D
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SF1900 on June 21, 2015, 07:14:05 PM
Rigged the currency?  ???
What precisely would one be protesting for?   ???

Whats your solution or what is a solution that you have heard of (to what problem exactly)?  

Where is this slavery you speak of and can I buy anyone for sale?  ;D


Yes, it was pretty much all over the news. I am sure you can find articles on it.

Just google it.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: The True Adonis on June 21, 2015, 07:16:17 PM
Yes, it was pretty much all over the news. I am sure you can find articles on it.

Just google it.
I did and all I get is Wiggs type sites that say the Illuminati did this and that Germany was right a long time ago.  :-\

Pretty stupid stuff.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SF1900 on June 21, 2015, 07:18:04 PM
I did and all I get is Wiggs type sites that say the Illuminati did this and that Germany was right a long time ago.  :-\

Pretty stupid stuff.

okay, cool, broskie.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: The True Adonis on June 21, 2015, 07:23:44 PM
The real problem is the human population.  It is simply getting too large.  Anything else is just a symptom.  The problem is a self correcting one if people were given massive incentives to just not have children or as many of them. (this is because most humans are too stupid to realize the consequences of a rising birth rate so they would need an incentive)
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: Parker on June 21, 2015, 07:45:08 PM
I did and all I get is Wiggs type sites that say the Illuminati did this and that Germany was right a long time ago.  :-\

Pretty stupid stuff.
He's talking about this
 http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2015/05/20/billions-in-bank-fx-settlements/27638443/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2015/05/20/billions-in-bank-fx-settlements/27638443/)

Although, Japan is accused of manipulating it's currency so that they can make a killing overseas.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: The True Adonis on June 21, 2015, 07:49:46 PM
He's talking about this
 http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2015/05/20/billions-in-bank-fx-settlements/27638443/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2015/05/20/billions-in-bank-fx-settlements/27638443/)

Although, Japan is accused of manipulating it's currency so that they can make a killing overseas.
And if that never happened, how would anything be different exactly?  ???
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: chaos on June 21, 2015, 07:51:02 PM
Gun grabbers ::)
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: LittleJ on June 21, 2015, 08:13:19 PM
Gun grabbers ::)


I hate guns
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SF1900 on June 21, 2015, 08:18:25 PM
Gun grabbers ::)


Calm down, no one is taking away your guns.

(http://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/wp-content/uploads/satevepost/gun-america.jpg)
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: bigmc on June 21, 2015, 10:00:41 PM
I don't expect an Englishman to understand the concept that truly free men are free to bear arms, but your willful obstinacy is overdone.

And yes, I don't expect you to even remotely share my opinion that the second amendment to the United States constitution was put in expressly to allow free citizens to oppose their government should that government become tyrannical.

You can scoff, but the Swiss train every man and woman under 60 to repel invaders. I would wager that the chances of the U.S. Government under an autocratic administration becoming tyrannical are far greater than the Swiss being invaded by a standing army.

You DON'T understand Americans and that's ok, I don't understand your love of perpetual serfdom.
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yeah  you cant be a free man without a gun

retard  ::)
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: The Ugly on June 21, 2015, 11:47:36 PM
Gun grabbers ::)


Yes, get rid of guns and all is well. Funny how no one really gives a fuck when it's just Chicago killing Chicago, Baltimore killing Baltimore, Detroit killing Detroit, etc.

Crazy white boy unloads, "Stop the madness!" Fucking hypocrites.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: _aj_ on June 22, 2015, 04:12:43 AM

yeah  you cant be a free man without a gun

retard  ::)

I see reading comprehension isn't a strength. Go back and reread the first sentence.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SuperTed on June 22, 2015, 04:37:17 AM
There are advantages and disadvantages of citizens having a "right to bear arms". The biggest problem for me is that in every society, you have a small percentage of it's population who are batshit insane. It's just the way it is. And giving people who are batshit insane easy access to guns will lead to mass shootings every now and again unfortunatley.

The same things would occur in the UK if guns were easy to get hold of I'd bet.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: _aj_ on June 22, 2015, 05:06:56 AM
There are advantages and disadvantages of citizens having a "right to bear arms". The biggest problem for me is that in every society, you have a small percentage of it's population who are batshit insane. It's just the way it is. And giving people who are batshit insane easy access to guns will lead to mass shootings every now and again unfortunatley.

The same things would occur in the UK if guns were easy to get hold of I'd bet.

So, all of society must labor under laws designed purely to thwart the "batshit insane?" Or only the parts of society that you don't understand nor subscribe to should be held to this new legal standard?
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: Tapeworm on June 22, 2015, 05:13:42 AM
Under what circumstances would you give up your guns and rights to have a gun?  Anything goes.  It's a fantasy.  Name your price if there is one.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SuperTed on June 22, 2015, 05:17:16 AM
So, all of society must labor under laws designed purely to thwart the "batshit insane?" Or only the parts of society that you don't understand nor subscribe to should be held to this new legal standard?

I'm not really anti-gun tbh and can understand why many American's feel the need to have them. As TA said, America is far more rural than most Europeon nations so it makes sense for those living in such areas to own guns.
I'm just imagining if the UK for instance had easy access to guns. I'm sure there would be occasions occurring quite often where some deranged loon goes on a random shooting spree in a school/mall/church etc. The only thing that prevents this occurring here is tight gun control.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: _aj_ on June 22, 2015, 05:21:22 AM
I'm not really anti-gun tbh and can understand why many American's feel the need to have them. As TA said, America is far more rural than most Europeon nations so it makes sense for those living in such areas to own guns.
I'm just imagining if the UK for instance had easy access to guns. I'm sure there would be occasions occurring quite often where some deranged loon goes on a random shooting spree in a school/mall/church etc. The only thing that prevents this occurring here is tight gun control.

And it's because of the UK's tight gun control that there is no gun violence at all in the UK? Got it.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: pedro01 on June 22, 2015, 05:26:33 AM
Not being from the US, I don't understand this whole sacred constitution.
Given bearing arms has resulted in far more civilian on civilian violence, than uprising against corrupt governments, it may be a time for a rethink? Or do the majority want to live by a set of rules made 100's of years ago?
Things change...Adherence to a set of ideals that were made in times way different than now seems so backward.

The constitution is sacrosanct - it CANNOT be changed.

And do go changing those amendments either.  ::)
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: Twaddle on June 22, 2015, 05:27:32 AM
I hate guns

Good, that leaves more for me.   :D
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: Twaddle on June 22, 2015, 05:28:51 AM
Under what circumstances would you give up your guns and rights to have a gun?  Anything goes.  It's a fantasy.  Name your price if there is one.

When you can pry them from my cold dead fingers.   :D
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: pedro01 on June 22, 2015, 05:34:17 AM
And if that never happened, how would anything be different exactly?  ???

The people on the other side of those rigged trades would be wealthier.

And the people who lost jobs because of skewed exchange rates making their exports noncompetitive would still have their jobs.

Currencies should be allowed to 'freely' find their own values, not be manipulated by JP Morgan to fill their coffers.

Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SuperTed on June 22, 2015, 05:34:48 AM
And it's because of the UK's tight gun control that there is no gun violence at all in the UK? Got it.

It's a major reason. Guns are difficult to get hold off and therefore, it's rare to see gun related violence. Mass shootings are pretty much non existant.
There is some gun violence in the UK but it's nothing major. Even the guns that are floating around are usually shitty modified BB's and other unreliable crap. Most of the gang's here use knives instead.
Admittedly though, the UK go overboard when it comes to gun control.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: _aj_ on June 22, 2015, 05:36:02 AM
The constitution is sacrosanct - it CANNOT be changed.

And do go changing those amendments either.  ::)


Sure it can, that's spelled out in the Constitution too. It's prohibitively difficult, but possible: 3/4 of the House and 3/4 of the Senate and 3/4 of the state's legislatures.

Or

An Article V "Constitutional Convention" which is made up of the 50 states and does NOT include anybody from the federal government.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: _aj_ on June 22, 2015, 05:39:46 AM
It's a major reason. Guns are difficult to get hold off and therefore, it's rare to see gun related violence. Mass shootings are pretty much non existant.
There is some gun violence in the UK but it's nothing major. Even the guns that are floating around are usually shitty modified BB's and other unreliable crap. Most of the gang's here use knives instead.
Admittedly though, the UK go overboard when it comes to gun control.

Wait, so you have full gun control and DO have gun related violent crime. That's puzzling.

Curious: why do single "batshit crazy" events in the U.S. invalidate my world-view, while singular events in your statist paradise do not invalidate yours? Holding the UK to the same standard you want to hold the U.S. would instantly declare gun control a failure every time some yob puts a bullet into somebody else in the UK.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: pedro01 on June 22, 2015, 05:40:17 AM
Sure it can, that's spelled out in the Constitution too. It's prohibitively difficult, but possible: 3/4 of the House and 3/4 of the Senate and 3/4 of the state's legislatures.

Or

An Article V "Constitutional Convention" which is made up of the 50 states and does NOT include anybody from the federal government.

You are missing the irony.

I love it when Americans say "you can't change the second amendment"

You do know what "Amendment" means, right?
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: Tapeworm on June 22, 2015, 05:42:11 AM
When you can pry them from my cold dead fingers.   :D

Yikes.  No Utopia of mine.  Bunch of rigored digits everywhere.

Don't go polishing any lanterns in the near future, sir.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: _aj_ on June 22, 2015, 05:43:06 AM
You do know what "Amendment" means, right?

Of course I do, obviously much better than you. It can be repealed or changed under the constitutionally mandated provisions for such a change. But those provisions are designed in such a way to prevent the capricious dalliance whipsaw of mob rule.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SF1900 on June 22, 2015, 05:46:17 AM
Arguing with a gun nutter is like arguing with a religious person. Religious people have their god, gun nutters have their guns, and you can't tell either group anything. They are both extremely stringent in their thinking.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: _aj_ on June 22, 2015, 05:50:41 AM
Arguing with a gun nutter is like arguing with a religious person. Religious people have their god, gun nutters have their guns, and you can't tell either group anything. They are both extremely stringent in their thinking.

While that may be true, this conversation has oddly veered into basic Constitutional Law, for which I have a long-held passion. That's the reason I keep swinging. I don't expect outsiders to understand my American sub-culture. I never have. My world-view is as alien to you as any other culture on earth.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SuperTed on June 22, 2015, 05:52:22 AM
Wait, so you have full gun control and DO have gun related violent crime. That's puzzling.

Curious: why do single "batshit crazy" events in the U.S. invalidate my world-view, while singular events in your statist paradise do not invalidate yours? Holding the UK to the same standard you want to hold the U.S. would instantly declare gun control a failure every time some yob puts a bullet into somebody else in the UK.

There is gun crime in the UK but it would be far worse if guns were easier to obtain.
 
I understand that you're not someone who's going change his opinion on this issue but don't you at least acknowledge some of the problems that can arise in a country if guns are easy to access?
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SF1900 on June 22, 2015, 05:56:48 AM
While that may be true, this conversation has oddly veered into basic Constitutional Law, for which I have a long-held passion. That's the reason I keep swinging. I don't expect outsiders to understand my American sub-culture. I never have. My world-view is as alien to you as any other culture on earth.

Yes, a worldview of paranoia :-D
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: _aj_ on June 22, 2015, 06:06:06 AM
I understand that you're not someone who's going change his opinion on this issue but don't you at least acknowledge some of the problems that can arise in a country if guns are easy to access?

Sure. Will you also agree that those problems do not disappear if guns are made near impossible to access?
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SuperTed on June 22, 2015, 06:10:31 AM
Sure. Will you also agree that those problems do not disappear if guns are made near impossible to access?

Of course I do, hence why I previously said I'm not really anti-gun and think the UK go overboard with it's anti-gun laws. :D
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: Twaddle on June 22, 2015, 06:15:29 AM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/4d/29/54/4d295433cd211103aa0466b89560aa6d.jpg)
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: Tapeworm on June 22, 2015, 06:22:41 AM
Why did this scholar call it The Last Rhodesian? 
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: _aj_ on June 22, 2015, 06:44:33 AM
Why did this scholar call it The Last Rhodesian? 

Rhodesia was a white apartheid state until 1980 when the Mugabe regime took over and renamed it Zimbabwe.

It's apparently somewhat of a rallying cry for white supremacists. I am guessing because of the current horrors the remaining white population in Zimbabwe are subjected to.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: DroppingPlates on June 22, 2015, 06:55:58 AM
Arguing with a gun nutter is like arguing with a religious person. Religious people have their god, gun nutters have their guns, and you can't tell either group anything. They are both extremely stringent in their thinking.

Ha, this is so true
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on June 22, 2015, 07:13:39 AM
Vince, your thread title suggested that Roof "posted on Getbig". Can you post a link to his thread or his reply?

TIA.


His manifesto is very similiar to another person who posted crap year.  Ron banned that person and deleted all of his stupid thread.  However, there's no telling as to whether they were one in the same as accounts are anonymous. 

We will know for sure once the authorities search his computer and browser history as he prob lurked around here.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: _aj_ on June 22, 2015, 07:20:23 AM
Ha, this is so true

 ::)

Of course there is nothing that the beatific enlightened "progressives" feel a religious enthusiasm for, is there? Think hard! I will give you a hint: Al Gore is your Pope.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: Tapeworm on June 22, 2015, 07:33:15 AM
Seems weird to associate your cause with something that happened long before you were born in a British colony on the other side of the world that you've never visited and aren't from.  That'd be a British colony there.  British colony kicking out the British.

I'm saying: If you're going to go kill a bunch of black people then just man the fuck up and call your web page I Hate These Goddamned Black People.  There's no need for all the sleuthy vagina language after a certain point.  When you find you're plotting a mass public murder then it's time to leave the niceties behind.

Babar Goes To Church, this guy.  "He was the most polite gunman I've ever been murdered by."
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SuperTed on June 22, 2015, 07:39:43 AM

His manifesto is very similiar to another person who posted crap year.  Ron banned that person and deleted all of his stupid thread.  However, there's no telling as to whether they were one in the same as accounts are anonymous. 

We will know for sure once the authorities search his computer and browser history as he prob lurked around here.

What he wrote in his manifesto is similar to what's written by thousands of white nationalists across the net. It was nothing that unique really.
There are a couple of posters here who hold similar views but to varying degree's.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SuperTed on June 22, 2015, 07:44:32 AM
Seems weird to associate your cause with something that happened long before you were born in a British colony on the other side of the world that you've never visited and aren't from.  That'd be a British colony there.  British colony kicking out the British.

I'm saying: If you're going to go kill a bunch of black people then just man the fuck up and call your web page I Hate These Goddamned Black People.  There's no need for all the sleuthy vagina language after a certain point.  When you find you're plotting a mass public murder then it's time to leave the niceties behind.

I think he knew his manifesto would become widely read once the attack took place so wanted it to be thoughtful and detailed as opposed to just a hateful rant.
The white populations in SA and Rhodesia tend to be viewed romantically among many white racialists due to their strong convictions, racial awareness, traditional values and defiance.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SF1900 on June 22, 2015, 07:49:59 AM
::)

Of course there is nothing that the beatific enlightened "progressives" feel a religious enthusiasm for, is there? Think hard! I will give you a hint: Al Gore is your Pope.

You can tell the similarities between you and MOS and Tbombz. Very similar personalities, just geared toward different nutty passions.  :D
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: _aj_ on June 22, 2015, 07:52:32 AM
You can tell the similarities between you and MOS and Tbombz. Very similar personalities, just geared toward different nutty passions.  :D

I like MOS, but comparing me to the Bombz is throwing-hands words!
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SF1900 on June 22, 2015, 07:56:52 AM
I like MOS, but comparing me to the Bombz is throwing-hands words!

This is why I said it goes beyond a cultural thing. Has a lot to do with personality. This gun debate is eliciting very similar personality styles that we see in Tbombz when discussing religion and discussing guns with you.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: Tapeworm on June 22, 2015, 08:17:47 AM
I think he knew his manifesto would become widely read once the attack took place so wanted it to be thoughtful and detailed as opposed to just a hateful rant.
The white populations in SA and Rhodesia tend to be viewed romantically among many white racialists due to their strong convictions, racial awareness, traditional values and defiance.

Yeah, they're overreaching.  A lot of the africans I've met are bunged up people with big chips on their shoulders.  Always with the cock measuring and the pissing contest, these guys.  Who knows why.  Africans.  They're worse than the Scottish like that.  In a class of their own.  And they don't give a fuck about what's happening in the US.  Displaced, butthurt, and full of un-stoic whining - this is the modern white african.

Besides, if someone really wanted to glorify the white colonialists of Africa, it's presumptuous to compare the causes.  I doubt there are Zulu tribes charging down out of the hills of South Carolina and only The Regiment's sinew, Michael Caine, and a line of rifled muskets stands between them and immanent, bloody death.  These guys are eating Cheetos in their underwear and posting on the internet.  Fuck 'em.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: _aj_ on June 22, 2015, 09:47:28 AM
On the 2nd Amendment and the desire for repeal, this is a worthwhile read: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/420126/second-amendment-not-responsible-easy-gun-access
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: Voice of Doom on June 22, 2015, 09:57:35 AM
The gun debate ultimately falls down to the right of self defense.  The gun is only a tool but a tool that greatly equalizes men and women to each other and to the apparatus of the state.  It's because of this reason that elites and those in authority have heavily controlled the availability of guns to the masses.  This was especially true in England where to own a firearm during the 18th and 19th century could be punishable by jail or death.  The aristocracy was fearful that the lower classes owning guns was a threat to their "natural right to rule".  Guns were often handed out to the people when they were needed to die in an aristocrat's war but then quickly collected after.  The masses are allowed to die for the elites but not to challenge them.

The American Revolution started not from the tea tax (as public indoctrination centers tell you) but from a stamp tax being rendered across all purchases.  To not use the tax stamp on products could be punishable by death (sound familiar?)

When the American's revolted and refused to pay the stamp tax the British moved their army in to disarm the people because they knew they couldn't enforce the tax against an armed population.  British General Gage sent troops to Charleston and Boston to take control of the powder storages and to confiscate arms.  They used warrantless searches into people's businesses and stationed British troops in the city and American's home.  Americans were often paraded in front of mockery courts, tried for sedition and hanged if they were suspected of owning or storing firearms.
(Any of this making sense as to why the first 5 rights are specifically spelled out in the Bill of Rights?)

Over this arms embargo local and state militias began to form and start fighting back by taking over munitions and gunpowder facilities.  On April 19th 1775 the British set out to take control of ammunition factories at Lexington and Concord...and the rest is history.

Guns are a tool of self-defense.  Whether that's an intruder in your home, a robber while you're walking the street or a government overstepping its Constitutional authority.  Guns will never go away but if you disarm the people you give them no chance to resist tyranny.  Many disarmed populations have been walked to genocide in the past few centuries...don't ever forget that.

That's what the gun debate boils down to.  You either believe that self-defense is an inherent human right or you don't.  If you don't then you believe that humans are simply tax paying cattle that exist at the State's pleasure.  And if you believe that there's no helping you.

Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: _aj_ on June 22, 2015, 10:19:35 AM
Gun laws in the UK aren't that bad. Providing you have a legitimate reason for owning a shotgun or rifle, like hunting or living in the countryside for example, then you can apply for one. As long as you don't have a history of being a psycho and you've suitable storage for it then it's fairly straightforward.

What about a pistol? A self-feeding rifle (semi-automatic)?

Or is the "right" in the UK simply for double-barrel shotguns and single shot .22 rifles?
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: Thick Nick on June 22, 2015, 10:21:07 AM
Sounds just like a getbigger. He would've fit right in with the getbig likes of Kwon_2, James28, Woten, Groink, Archer77, The Ugly, Overload, Ron, musclegirl, True Adonis, newmom, and 95 percent of everybody else.

You left me out... I am touched.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: _aj_ on June 22, 2015, 10:21:25 AM
This is one i'm going to stay out of and just observe, AJ. I like to keep things light-hearted round these parts!

OK.  ;)
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: 2Thick on June 22, 2015, 10:48:39 AM
Gold's Gym tank top = bodybuilding related.

Media will now blame steroids for his killing spree.


Yeah, they'll be calling him a "bodybuilder" and say he was juicing to build those epic 11" farmer-tanned cannons.

Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: Thick Nick on June 22, 2015, 10:52:07 AM
I love reading these anti gun threads. All the hippie go free frees get all up in arms but convieniently forget the common link in 100% of these cases. I'll get back to that...

See some shooters are black, some white, some about religion, some about race etc. Some use guns, some use knives, etc.

But why is it that someone with a gun, a grievance, and a target DOESN'T go on a shooting rampage?

 Let's be honest using this example... All white men get upset seeng stupid white whores banging these animals... Right? And a lot have guns... Why isn't this happening every day?

Because there is a very thin line between sanity and insanity...so what causes some people, no matter their perceived grievance to cross the line?

Prescription medications... And more specifically stopping the use of anti depressants. 100% of mass shootings... Every single one... Going back to when this started (Columbine? Prior?) 100% of the shooters have been on pharmaceuticals or recently stopped taking their medication.

But the hippy go free frees don't blame the actual common link... Because liberal guilt says "awww if someone is on anti depressants they must need help, or be in pain... Don't blame the drugs... Blame the weapon of choice."

Aj is right... Someone pushed over the line will use what is available.. A gun is just the most effective method. Banning guns but ignoring the drug link will simply make stabbings rise... Or road rage... You name it.

And oh yeah SF1900... You are so dumb is causes me physical distress. Lucky for you I don't take anti depressants because I'd stop taking them just for you.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: 2Thick on June 22, 2015, 10:56:05 AM
Anyone who shoots up a bunch of innocent people is a piece of shit and shout be treated harshly.....regardless of their race.

There are a lot of nuts in the world it seems.


Agreed. If he had actually done a Bernie Goetz or Paul Kersey and shot individuals who actually picked him or his family to harm and done them harm, I'd feel differently. But since that apparently isn't the case, he should be punished accordingly.

And idiots like this give the Al Sharptons of the world a bit of an illusion of legitimacy, unfortunately. They can point to this guy as an example of why we white people are all so evil, and some will continue to believe their bullshit.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: 2Thick on June 22, 2015, 11:01:59 AM
What is the solution proposed by the right wing nutjobs?

I don't know, but while your sorry liberal ass is actually outside the prison crying and protesting his fate on the night of his execution, a so-called "right wing nutjob" is inside the prison giving him his comeuppance... while this "right wing nutjob" is in my nice home or a nice drinking establishment having another Crown Royal to celebrate as I watch Julie Banderas or Harris Falkner announce his death in a breaking news segment.  ;)
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: 2Thick on June 22, 2015, 11:07:23 AM
aj

to commit a crime you need

the opportunity

the means

and the mindset

take out one of these and bingo it doesn't happen

in this case the gun was the means

its that simple

I appreciate your ingrained right to bear arms mindset

in this instance the access to the firearm was a huge factor

there is no counter argument


What if he had a bomb? Poison? A Mack Truck?

How are you going to take the guns away from those who obtain them illegally or stop them from buying them illegally in the first place?
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: _aj_ on June 22, 2015, 11:37:52 AM
I've noticed an interesting trend arguing any politically charged subject on Getbig, but it's especially pronounced with the "gun debate". The conversations with the various anti-gun players (usually BigMC, SF1900, and some others) usually take the form of this:

Quote
[Anti-gun Getbigger]: "Well, what do you have to say for [insert statistic here]?"
_aj_: "[Responds to statistic, offers rebuttal, asks counter-question]"
[Anti-gun Getbigger]: "See? You just can't talk to these 'gun nutters'!"

If you look at this thread, you'll see at least 3 separate instances of this cheese meta-"debate" method. It's very similar to Godwin's Law regarding the immediate use of Nazi analogies to "win" an online debate.

I am sure that it must feel great to tell yourself you've "won" that round by immediately calling your debate opponent insane and walking away, but it real life, it really doesn't work that way
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: andreisdaman on June 22, 2015, 11:42:28 AM
The fact is that gun nutters really CANT be talked to...they don't want to look at the startling statistics of gun violence compared to Australia, Britain, Japan, and other supposedly civilized countries
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: _aj_ on June 22, 2015, 11:52:46 AM
The fact is that gun nutters really CANT be talked to...they don't want to look at the startling statistics of gun violence compared to Australia, Britain, Japan, and other supposedly civilized countries

#4
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SuperTed on June 22, 2015, 12:34:47 PM
Gun laws in the UK aren't that bad. Providing you have a legitimate reason for owning a shotgun or rifle, like hunting or living in the countryside for example, then you can apply for one. As long as you don't have a history of being a psycho and you've suitable storage for it then it's fairly straightforward.

The total ban on handguns is pretty ridiculous. The GB Olympic handgun shooting team have to travel to France to practice and you also had the problem with Danny Nightingale.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: _aj_ on June 22, 2015, 12:47:03 PM
The total ban on handguns is pretty ridiculous. The GB Olympic handgun shooting team have to travel to France to practice and you also had the problem with Danny Nightingale.

Well, if you're following these reasoned "arguments" from your fellow UK citizens, handguns cause violence.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: spiro on June 22, 2015, 01:27:12 PM
What kind of man could possibly be anti gun. You have to be a fucking pussy to want to ban guns or a Euro f ag, where you're not even trusted to have a sharp kitchen knife because your rulers won't let you lol.
In Europe your not allowed to stop someone from breaking into your house. Your countries are pathetic shit holes. You are seriously a bunch of neutered women. You have the nerve to say anything to us. Fuck you, you girly men.

I would rather own guns and have that slight tiny risk I might be a victim of gun violence. Very tiny minuscule chance if you have half a brain.

That is why America shits all over those so called "civilized nations".


You have more of a.chance of being hit by lighting and winning the lottery in the same day.

And SF you make me sick you slimy liberal piece of shit. white guilt having pussy. Every debate you sound like a hurt woman. You should finalize your gender change because you have no balls.

Lol what kind of man argues for gun control. Would John fucking Wayne want gun control. Pussies.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: bigmc on June 22, 2015, 01:34:14 PM

What if he had a bomb? Poison? A Mack Truck?

How are you going to take the guns away from those who obtain them illegally or stop them from buying them illegally in the first place?

what if they could shoot lightning from their fingers

im done with this shit

close minded isn't the word

America fuck yeah  8) 8)
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SuperTed on June 22, 2015, 01:38:15 PM
What kind of man could possibly be anti gun. You have to be a fucking pussy to want to ban guns or a Euro f ag, where you're not even trusted to have a sharp kitchen knife because your rulers won't let you lol.
In Europe your not allowed to stop someone from breaking into your house. Your countries are pathetic shit holes. You are seriously a bunch of neutered women. You have the nerve to say anything to us. Fuck you, you girly men.

I would rather own guns and have that slight tiny risk I might be a victim of gun violence. Very tiny minuscule chance if you have half a brain.

That is why America shits all over those so called "civilized nations".


You have more of a.chance of being hit by lighting and winning the lottery in the same day.

And SF you make me sick you slimy liberal piece of shit. white guilt having pussy. Every debate you sound like a hurt woman. You should finalize your gender change because you have no balls.

Lol what kind of man argues for gun control. Would John fucking Wayne want gun control. Pussies.

 ::)

You Americans could learn a thing or two from the "Euro-fag" Swiss. :D

(http://media.idownloadblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/gun-in-apple-store-e1313083204877.jpg)

(http://www.haciendapub.com/sites/default/files/Figure5Part2.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/53/Caroline-Migros-p1000507.jpg)
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: spiro on June 22, 2015, 01:41:03 PM
::)

You Americans could learn a thing or two from the "Euro-fag" Swiss. :D

(http://media.idownloadblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/gun-in-apple-store-e1313083204877.jpg)

(http://www.haciendapub.com/sites/default/files/Figure5Part2.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/53/Caroline-Migros-p1000507.jpg)

The swiss are magnificent exuse me!
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: The Ugly on June 22, 2015, 01:43:19 PM
Seems if we just outlawed crazy white kids, we can all feel good about ourselves, while continuing to redirect attention from the urban elephant and its inconvenient statistics.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: spiro on June 22, 2015, 01:44:49 PM
what if they could shoot lightning from their fingers

im done with this shit

close minded isn't the word

America fuck yeah  8) 8)

Your not even allowed to have a kitchen knife. You dont have the god given right to protect yourself. You might get locked Up if you stop a man from raping your wife i pitty your people.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian. He also posted on Getbig possibly
Post by: _aj_ on June 22, 2015, 01:54:22 PM
what if they could shoot lightning from their fingers

im done with this shit

close minded isn't the word

America fuck yeah  8) 8)

#5
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: calfzilla on June 22, 2015, 02:04:20 PM
What kind of man could possibly be anti gun. You have to be a fucking pussy to want to ban guns or a Euro f ag, where you're not even trusted to have a sharp kitchen knife because your rulers won't let you lol.
In Europe your not allowed to stop someone from breaking into your house. Your countries are pathetic shit holes. You are seriously a bunch of neutered women. You have the nerve to say anything to us. Fuck you, you girly men.

I would rather own guns and have that slight tiny risk I might be a victim of gun violence. Very tiny minuscule chance if you have half a brain.

That is why America shits all over those so called "civilized nations".


You have more of a.chance of being hit by lighting and winning the lottery in the same day.

And SF you make me sick you slimy liberal piece of shit. white guilt having pussy. Every debate you sound like a hurt woman. You should finalize your gender change because you have no balls.

Lol what kind of man argues for gun control. Would John fucking Wayne want gun control. Pussies.

 :D
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: polychronopolous on June 22, 2015, 02:19:28 PM
Seems if we just outlawed crazy white kids, we can all feel good about ourselves, while continuing to redirect attention from the urban elephant and its inconvenient statistics.

And perhaps re-label "Gun Free Zones" into "Super Safe Gun Free Zones" to let the criminals know we REALLY mean business.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: SF1900 on June 22, 2015, 03:47:31 PM
What kind of man could possibly be anti gun. You have to be a fucking pussy to want to ban guns or a Euro f ag, where you're not even trusted to have a sharp kitchen knife because your rulers won't let you lol.
In Europe your not allowed to stop someone from breaking into your house. Your countries are pathetic shit holes. You are seriously a bunch of neutered women. You have the nerve to say anything to us. Fuck you, you girly men.

I would rather own guns and have that slight tiny risk I might be a victim of gun violence. Very tiny minuscule chance if you have half a brain.

That is why America shits all over those so called "civilized nations".


You have more of a.chance of being hit by lighting and winning the lottery in the same day.

And SF you make me sick you slimy liberal piece of shit. white guilt having pussy. Every debate you sound like a hurt woman. You should finalize your gender change because you have no balls.

Lol what kind of man argues for gun control. Would John fucking Wayne want gun control. Pussies.

Meltdown.
Title: Re: Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.
Post by: The Ugly on June 22, 2015, 04:08:41 PM
And perhaps re-label "Gun Free Zones" into "Super Safe Gun Free Zones" to let the criminals know we REALLY mean business.

 :)