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Title: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Wiggs on August 13, 2015, 11:27:23 AM
Young earth FTW bitches.  Evolution is as bunk as Kigs!
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Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Necrosis on August 13, 2015, 11:40:18 AM
Young earth FTW bitches.  Evolution is as bunk as Kigs!
Superior Hebrew Genetics.  Solomon like intellect and wisdom.  



He said so many incorrect things at the start of the video I could no longer watch. He claims only humans are capable of rational thought, is he retarded? has he never seen monkey's? dolphins? crows? this is what happens when you step outside your profession into realms of science you have no clue about.

He claims that parts of things don't have function, another moronic de bunked argument, aka Behe's irreducible complexity. For example the eye is so complex, how would half an eye work? it can't right? this guy really did his research, got ya atheists.

He is surgeon, who cares what he thinks about evolution, he doesn't seem to understand it, likely willingly.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Twaddle on August 13, 2015, 11:52:00 AM
Well, this video pretty much solidified my decision to not vote for Carson.  I know he's a smart guy, and I know his IQ is much higher than mine; but when he's talking in the video, he sounds like the dumbest mother fucker on earth.   :-\
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Wiggs on August 13, 2015, 12:04:53 PM
BTW Ladies and Gentlemen,

Meet Dr. Francis Collins world-renowned geneticist, physician, and Former Director of the National Human Genome Research Institute at the National Institutes of Health.

He was an athiest and became a theist.

Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 13, 2015, 12:06:07 PM
Do blacks hate the idea of evolution because they fail to see their connection to Apes?

Not racist of course since evolution claims that man came from Apes- sorry mods, no racist baiting here.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Necrosis on August 13, 2015, 12:25:51 PM
BTW Ladies and Gentlemen,

Meet Dr. Francis Collins world-renowned geneticist, physician, and Former Director of the National Human Genome Research Institute at the National Institutes of Health.

He was an athiest and became a theist.



Oh my god, it must be true!

he also believes in evolution and claims it's an indisputable fact, so you should get your people straight first.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Necrosis on August 13, 2015, 12:26:53 PM
Well, this video pretty much solidified my decision to not vote for Carson.  I know he's a smart guy, and I know his IQ is much higher than mine; but when he's talking in the video, he sounds like the dumbest mother fucker on earth.   :-\

I know, he's like " well if that's true (his own made up event), why do we still have monkeys?". I suggest he read a grade 10 text book on biology.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: SF1900 on August 13, 2015, 12:29:48 PM
Do blacks hate the idea of evolution because they fail to see their connection to Apes?

Not racist of course since evolution claims that man came from Apes- sorry mods, no racist baiting here.

Evolution doesn't say we came from apes. We share a common ancestry with apes.

That is a world of difference!!
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: SF1900 on August 13, 2015, 12:31:13 PM
I know, he's like " well if that's true (his own made up event), why do we still have monkeys?". I suggest he read a grade 10 text book on biology.

See my post above. We still have monkeys because man didn't evolve from an ape. Evolution NEVER EVER claimed this. We share a common ancestry with apes.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Necrosis on August 13, 2015, 12:34:32 PM
See my post above. We still have monkeys because man didn't evolve from an ape. Evolution NEVER EVER claimed this. We share a common ancestry with monkeys.

you are touched a bit huh?
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 13, 2015, 12:34:46 PM
BTW Ladies and Gentlemen,

Meet Dr. Francis Collins world-renowned geneticist, physician, and Former Director of the National Human Genome Research Institute at the National Institutes of Health.

He was an athiest and became a theist.



Most on here went to liberal schools. They're not going to use reasoning and especially use any commonsense. When ever there's a thread like this the liberal atheists can't wait to pile on, call names, etc. Book smart...derp.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: SF1900 on August 13, 2015, 12:37:44 PM
Plain and simple: Creationism is not a science. You can't test God in a lab. Creationists even had to make their own journals, because their "science" wouldn't pass peer-review. So they made their own journals, so they can get "published."

Liberal schools teach science. Religious schools teach religion, which is not science. Those poor religious people will never get it. Always trying to insert their religion into science where it does not belong.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: 240 is Back on August 13, 2015, 12:38:14 PM
Most on here went to liberal schools. They're not going to use reasoning and especially use any commonsense. When ever there's a thread like this the liberal atheists can't wait to pile on, call names, etc. Book smart...derp.


Coach, it's entirely possible to believe in a God/creator... and at the same time believe in some science too.

Carson knows what he's doing - He's saying what the anti-science base of the party wants to believe.

Carson is also a brain surgeon - he could probably lecture for 10 straight hours on the evolution of the brain - he knows full well there were humans on this planet for a million years.


It's kinda like not telling a kid you're taking him for a flu shot until you actually sit down for the shot.  He's immature, he'll kick and cry.  That's the base.  Better to just pat them on the head and nod along with their anti-science idiocy, win the job, and manage them well, as carson is attempting to do.

Coach, it's possible to 1) support Carson 2) understand he's just pandering to get votes.

They all do it.  
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: 240 is Back on August 13, 2015, 12:39:49 PM
Most on here went to liberal schools. They're not going to use reasoning and especially use any commonsense. When ever there's a thread like this the liberal atheists can't wait to pile on, call names, etc. Book smart...derp.


coach, do you mind sharing your opinion?  Do you believe the earth was created 6000 years ago?  Or do you believe the science books?

Huckabee is a man of the Lord - he says the bible is good for teaching the word of God, but never to be taken literally.  Do you take it literally?  Or are you with huck (and me) who believe strongly in God, work our tails off to do right by him, but also understand the basic things like carbon dating?
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Wiggs on August 13, 2015, 12:41:48 PM
Well, this video pretty much solidified my decision to not vote for Carson.  I know he's a smart guy, and I know his IQ is much higher than mine; but when he's talking in the video, he sounds like the dumbest mother fucker on earth.   :-\

Have you considered it's you?  And I mean that in the least disrespectful way possible. Think about it. For all of known history people have worshiped Gods now all of a sudden people like you come along make a decision to not believe in God based on nothing.  The West has went from believers, to non believers and if you ask the non believers for proof, they'll give you the Big Bang THEORY or the THEORY of evolution.  There is not been 1 single shred of evidence ever proving this and there never will be. You've been brain washed and fight to continue to stay brainwashed to satisfy your worldly lusts. It's easier and more fun to not believe in God.  It's also very lazy.  Because I bet there are very, very few of you if any that have legitimately researched yours and other religions.  Why?  Well if you're an American you're fucked from birth with vaccines, GMO baby food, fluoridated water, television, consumerism, violence, sex, drugs, racism, greed, lust, alternative life styles, alternative genders, multiculturalism, political correctness, obesity, paganism, occultism, indoctrination, via trends, fashion, television, media, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, greed, greed, greed, slothfulness, mental laziness, and much more.  You don't even know it's happening because it is this western reality. And were so overworked and have a mentality of chasing the dollar, unless it is a pastime, most won't put any effort into their faith. You just repeat what is popular.  the religion of athiesm is constantly moving.  It's like an amorphous blob of ideas that's constantly shifting and changing to as new evidence comes out.  


Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: SF1900 on August 13, 2015, 12:42:14 PM
you are touched a bit huh?

Are you saying we dont share a common ancestry with apes?  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Wiggs on August 13, 2015, 12:44:45 PM
Evolution doesn't say we came from apes. We share a common ancestry with apes.

That is a world of difference!!

HAHAHA!  El Diablo doesn't know what he believes. 
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 13, 2015, 12:45:42 PM
Wow three trolls posts In row aimed at me. You must worried about something, maybe something i said or showed you. Tell oh wise one. What makes you think that science isn't apart of creationism considered there's a ton written on it by professors, scientists, etc. are you saying what biblical apologetics is all incorrect. Btw, I'm hiring. You need a job. I've got 15min left before i get back to work.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Wiggs on August 13, 2015, 12:49:15 PM
Plain and simple: Creationism is not a science. You can't test God in a lab. Creationists even had to make their own journals, because their "science" wouldn't pass peer-review. So they made their own journals, so they can get "published."

Liberal schools teach science. Religious schools teach religion, which is not science. Those poor religious people will never get it. Always trying to insert their religion into science where it does not belong.

LOL at ignoring the spiritual, something that's been around since before science.  And science can explain shit all thus, all the theories.  Science has it's place but athiests God is science.  An amorphous Blob of ideas constantly shifting, changing but never proving or disproving the big questions.

I don't think atheists can differ between religion and spirituality. It's all the same.  I wasn't being funny when I said it. Most of you have calcified pineal glands and you have zero connectivity to anything spiritual.  It's shame.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: SF1900 on August 13, 2015, 12:53:08 PM
LOL at ignoring the spiritual something that's been around since before science.  And science can explain shit all thus, all the theories.  Science has it's place but athiests God is science.  An amorphous Blob of ideas constantly shifting, changing but never proving or disproving the big questions.

Even MOS will agree that you can't test God in a lab, and you can't test all the faith required to be a theist in a lab.

There is no way to test the existence of God in a lab, that is why it requires faith.

Exactly, an atheist "God" is science. And this is where we drastically differ. You have yet to change my opinion, and I have yet to change yours. You can write "ahaha, lol" and "youre going to hell" all you want. I really don't care. That is not going to change my opinion. And, yet, religion has not answered any of the big questions, they only think they have with their "faith." Well, sorry, that doesn't work for me. Move on Wiggs, you can preach to me all you want.

Science cant explain shit? I guess you forgot Germ Theory, and how science has helped cure many diseases and ailments. I guess you forgot that part.  :-\ :-\ Next time youre sick or in need of surgery to save your life, skip it, and pray instead.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: tleilaxutank on August 13, 2015, 12:53:23 PM
I watched a little bit of that silliness. Gave me a good chuckle. Thanks.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: polychronopolous on August 13, 2015, 12:56:44 PM
God Bless Brother Ben
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: mr.turbo on August 13, 2015, 01:00:29 PM
this ben carson dude seems quite the weasley nerd.

I get the feeling these educated professionals get all *religious* when they want to sell a book or get into politics.

They would be laughed out of their fields with this crap
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Wiggs on August 13, 2015, 01:05:07 PM
Even MOS will agree that you can't test God in a lab, and you can't test all the faith required to be a theist in a lab.

There is no way to test the existence of God in a lab, that is why it requires faith.

Exactly, an atheist "God" is science. And this is where we drastically differ. You have yet to change my opinion, and I have yet to change yours. You can write "ahaha, lol" and "youre going to hell" all you want. I really don't care. That is not going to change my opinion. And, yet, religion has not answered any of the big questions, they only think they have with their "faith." Well, sorry, that doesn't work for me. Move on Wiggs, you can preach to me all you want.

Science cant explain shit? I guess you forgot Germ Theory, and how science has helped cure many diseases and ailments. I guess you forgot that part.  :-\ :-\ Next time youre sick or in need of surgery to save your life, skip it, and pray instead.

You're right religion hasn't answered any of the big questions but my ancestors book called the Bible did. You're people took that book and created the religions we have today in the west.  Your people being Caucasians.  I'm not trying to convert you.  I know how your type think.  You only want information that agrees with your line of thinking.  Contrasting information is met with stark resistance. Point remains because you can't prove your THEORY of evolution and evolution THEORY you and others have taken these THEORIES and created a lifestyle around them. That's a religion. Your God is these ideas or what you qualify as "science". You've used the extremely faulty carbon dating system to justify your ideas.

As for your "germ theory"  Humans lived long before "germ theory".
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: SF1900 on August 13, 2015, 01:10:37 PM
You're right religion hasn't answered any of the big questions but my ancestors book called the Bible did. You're people took that book and created the religions we have today in the west.  Your people being Caucasians.  I'm not trying to convert you.  I know how your type think.  You only want information that agrees with your line of thinking.  Contrasting information is met with stark resistance. Point remains because you can't prove your THEORY of evolution and evolution THEORY you and others have taken these THEORIES and created a lifestyle around them. That's a religion. Your God is these ideas or what you qualify as "science". You've used the extremely faulty carbon dating system to justify your ideas.

As for your "germ theory"  Humans lived long before "germ theory".

I am not even going to debate the top part with you, because we all know where it will lead to.

As for the second part, the fact that humans lived before germ theory has absolutely nothing to do with that fact that everywhere you look is science--your computer, your medicine, your car, your cell phone, medical instruments and devices, etc. To say science cant explain shit is stupid, even coming from you  :D :D  :D :D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Wiggs on August 13, 2015, 01:14:12 PM
I am not even going to debate the top part with you, because we all know where it will lead to.

As for the second part, the fact that humans lived before germ theory has absolutely nothing to do with that fact that everywhere you look is science--your computer, your medicine, your car, your cell phone, medical instruments and devices, etc. To say science cant explain shit is stupid, even coming from you  :D :D  :D :D ;D ;D

Dude, stay within the context of the conversation. You know I'm talking about God and creationism.  As I stated, THE BIG QUESTIONS.

Reading comprehension.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: SF1900 on August 13, 2015, 01:15:15 PM
Dude, stay within the context of the conversation. You know I'm talking about God and creationism.  As I stated, THE BIG QUESTIONS.

Reading comprehension.

What one considers a BIG QUESTION is relative to the person.

But I get what you mean. I was nitpicking.  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: doison on August 13, 2015, 01:15:48 PM
I wonder if he doesn't believe in MRSA?
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Necrosis on August 13, 2015, 01:27:53 PM
Dude, stay within the context of the conversation. You know I'm talking about God and creationism.  As I stated, THE BIG QUESTIONS.

Reading comprehension.

You should go to school.

A theory isn't what you think it is, it's a collection of facts, a theory best explains these facts. Gravity is but a theory, things will fall when dropped, the theory of gravity explains why.

Evolution is one of the most heavily supported theories in all of science, it has mountains of facts, from different branchs, like geology, genetics, morphology etc.

With evolution we can make predictions, we can explain odd behaviours, make corrections and use it to our advantage, ie using rapid life cycle species to test generational effects, disease processes etc.

The big bang isn't what you think it is either. it's a fact that the universe started from a single point, this is evidenced in the background radiation, redshift and the expansion of the universe. Math is factual and logical, like 2 +2 =4, in the same sense, the math used to calculate the beginning of the universe postulates a single rapid expansion, a singularity.

Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: f450 on August 13, 2015, 02:54:43 PM
it really worries me that they are people around me that believe that theres a being that controls the universe and can tell them what to do. I mean people that say God told me to do x y z... very disconcerting.

Does this bother anybody else?
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Twaddle on August 13, 2015, 03:02:20 PM
There is so much stupidity in this thread it's unreal.   :-\
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Teutonic Knight on August 13, 2015, 03:02:29 PM
Evolution doesn't say we came from apes. We share a common ancestry with apes.

That is a world of difference!!

I like monkeys , they jump around  :D
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: dr.chimps on August 13, 2015, 03:09:57 PM
You should go to school.

A theory isn't what you think it is, it's a collection of facts, a theory best explains these facts. Gravity is but a theory, things will fall when dropped, the theory of gravity explains why.

Evolution is one of the most heavily supported theories in all of science, it has mountains of facts, from different branchs, like geology, genetics, morphology etc.

With evolution we can make predictions, we can explain odd behaviours, make corrections and use it to our advantage, ie using rapid life cycle species to test generational effects, disease processes etc.

The big bang isn't what you think it is either. it's a fact that the universe started from a single point, this is evidenced in the background radiation, redshift and the expansion of the universe. Math is factual and logical, like 2 +2 =4, in the same sense, the math used to calculate the beginning of the universe postulates a single rapid expansion, a singularity.


OUCH! Science.  :)
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: 240 is Back on August 13, 2015, 03:11:33 PM
Ben Carson conducted fetal tissue research as a doctor — which he now opposes as GOP candidate

Rpublican presidential candidate Ben Carson, a neurosurgeon and abortion foe, previously conducted research using human fetal tissue — which he has spoken out against as recently as last month.

Carson told Fox News on July 16 that research on human fetal tissue offered little value to medical science after hidden-camera videos were released by anti-abortion activists that appear to show Planned Parenthood doctors discussing how to provide aborted fetuses to scientists.

But science blogger Jen Gunter revealed Wednesday that Carson and three colleagues used tissue from the fetal brain and nasal cavity in a 1992 study on how the brain develops, reported Buzzfeed.

According to the research study, those tissues were obtained from two fetuses aborted at the ninth and 17th weeks of gestation — at which point, Carson recently said, they should be considered human beings.

“At 17 weeks, you’ve got a nice little nose and little fingers and hands and the heart’s beating,” Carson told Fox News host Megyn Kelly. “It can respond to environmental stimulus. How can you believe that that’s just an irrelevant mass of cells? That’s what they want you to believe, when in fact it is a human being.”
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Melkor on August 13, 2015, 03:11:54 PM
Have you considered it's you?  And I mean that in the least disrespectful way possible. Think about it. For all of known history people have worshiped Gods now all of a sudden people like you come along make a decision to not believe in God based on nothing.  The West has went from believers, to non believers and if you ask the non believers for proof, they'll give you the Big Bang THEORY or the THEORY of evolution.  There is not been 1 single shred of evidence ever proving this and there never will be. You've been brain washed and fight to continue to stay brainwashed to satisfy your worldly lusts. It's easier and more fun to not believe in God.  It's also very lazy.  Because I bet there are very, very few of you if any that have legitimately researched yours and other religions.  Why?  Well if you're an American you're fucked from birth with vaccines, GMO baby food, fluoridated water, television, consumerism, violence, sex, drugs, racism, greed, lust, alternative life styles, alternative genders, multiculturalism, political correctness, obesity, paganism, occultism, indoctrination, via trends, fashion, television, media, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, greed, greed, greed, slothfulness, mental laziness, and much more.  You don't even know it's happening because it is this western reality. And were so overworked and have a mentality of chasing the dollar, unless it is a pastime, most won't put any effort into their faith. You just repeat what is popular.  the religion of athiesm is constantly moving.  It's like an amorphous blob of ideas that's constantly shifting and changing to as new evidence comes out.  




There are numerous examples of evolution that have been studied and quantified such as Darwin's finches and Italian Wall lizards.

And for very conclusive evidence of natural selection read into the work of Richard Lenski and his research lab. Briefly, he took 12 populations of E. coli bacteria and tracked genetic changes that occurred within each population exposed to various environmental conditions over generations (over 60,000 generations to date). They have effectively shown how the genetic make-up of each population has changed (evolved) over time. This is the basis of speciation (all populations started out as genetically identical strains and there now exists significantly different genetic strains between populations). This is essentially "proof" of evolution on a small scale.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Papper on August 13, 2015, 03:15:14 PM
Perhaps one kind of human evolved on the side that is incapable of understanding the concept of evolution and still relies on believing in witchcraft/sun gods etc  ;D
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: 240 is Back on August 13, 2015, 03:27:00 PM
Most on here went to liberal schools. They're not going to use reasoning and especially use any commonsense. When ever there's a thread like this the liberal atheists can't wait to pile on, call names, etc. Book smart...derp.

You're right, Coach.

Ben Carson went to liberal-ass yale.  Then he did research on aborted babies, used their cells for research.

THEN, as recently as a month ago, he spoke out against it.  Typical liberal behavior. 
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Parker on August 13, 2015, 03:36:22 PM
it really worries me that they are people around me that believe that theres a being that controls the universe and can tell them what to do. I mean people that say God told me to do x y z... very disconcerting.

Does this bother anybody else?
You know, That Being told you to write that, don't you?
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: SF1900 on August 13, 2015, 03:40:16 PM
You're right, Coach.

Ben Carson went to liberal-ass yale.  Then he did research on aborted babies, used their cells for research.

THEN, as recently as a month ago, he spoke out against it.  Typical liberal behavior. 


haha OMG!! Yes, Yale is located in Liberal Northeast. Carson hates liberals so much, but he didnt mind going to a liberal school (Yale). ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: 240 is Back on August 13, 2015, 03:50:47 PM
Carson also went to mich state, which conservative groups have rated as VERY FAR LEFT.
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2010/10/hail_to_the_liberals_conservat.html

Let's face it, Carson got his entire education at liberal school, did experiments on aborted babies, and is now pretending to be conservative.

haha OMG!! Yes, Yale is located in Liberal Northeast. Carson hates liberals so much, but he didnt mind going to a liberal school (Yale). ;D ;D

(https://orkjern.com/sites/default/files/clint-eastwood-o_1_7_1_4_2.gif)

Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: SF1900 on August 13, 2015, 03:57:02 PM
Carson also went to mich state, which conservative groups have rated as VERY FAR LEFT.
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2010/10/hail_to_the_liberals_conservat.html

Let's face it, Carson got his entire education at liberal school, did experiments on aborted babies, and is now pretending to be conservative.

(https://orkjern.com/sites/default/files/clint-eastwood-o_1_7_1_4_2.gif)



He hates liberal universities so much that he went to Yale to give a lecture to medical students.

http://news.yale.edu/2012/06/07/alumnus-ben-carson-honors-young-scholars-shares-wisdom-graduating-doctors

When world-renowned pediatric neurosurgeon Dr. Benjamin S. Carson came to the Yale campus on May 21 to deliver the Yale School of Medicine commencement address, he also had another important piece of business to attend to in New Haven.


In before the republicans on getbig say, "hahaha lol, look at all the liberals melting down" or "hahah, I own the minds of liberals and atheists on this board" or "haha lol liberals and atheists are so stupid."
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: 240 is Back on August 13, 2015, 03:57:52 PM
Carson went to 2 liberal schools - Mich state and Yale.  Two of the most liberal, actually.

Then he did these terrible things.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: The_Punisher on August 13, 2015, 03:58:28 PM
Are you saying we dont share a common ancestry with apes?  :-\ :-\


has Science finally Agreed on where Human Beings came from? (not counting the senseless, never ending, typical discussions that's been going on for centuries)
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: SF1900 on August 13, 2015, 04:01:50 PM


has Science finally Agreed on where Human Beings came from? (not counting the senseless, never ending, typical discussions that's been going on for centuries)

I don't know, but whether or not they agree, its better than saying, "Man came from God. End of story"  :D :D
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Papper on August 13, 2015, 04:06:49 PM
I don't know, but whether or not they agree, its better than saying, "Man came from God. End of story"  :D :D

No no, until there is conclusive evidence of exactly how evolution have occured it's just a old hocus pocus story that has been discussed forever.

So obviously a 2000 year old religion verified in a book is the only real truth for now  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 13, 2015, 04:11:23 PM
You're right, Coach.

Ben Carson went to liberal-ass yale.  Then he did research on aborted babies, used their cells for research.

THEN, as recently as a month ago, he spoke out against it.  Typical liberal behavior. 


Yet he was smart enough to draw his own conclusions and make his own decisions instead of having on the brainwashed teachings of liberal professors. You should change your name to strawman. You're one sided.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Dokey111 on August 13, 2015, 04:18:29 PM
Just because you believe or even concede that this may have all been created, it doesn't mean that the creator has anything to do with it's creations.  That's where people get stupid.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: The True Adonis on August 13, 2015, 04:23:31 PM
Evolution doesn't say we came from apes. We share a common ancestry with apes.

That is a world of difference!!
Actually we are apes, the fifth ape to be exact.

Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: SF1900 on August 13, 2015, 04:24:21 PM
Yet he was smart enough to draw his own conclusions and make his own decisions instead of having on the brainwashed teachings of liberal professors. You should change your name to strawman. You're one sided.

No, he has not made up his own decision. He still visits Yale to make speeches (in 2012-2013, he visited Yale Medical school and gave a speech. And I bet he still donates to Yale). If he was SO against liberal universities and stem cell research and abortions (Yale is in favor of abortion and stem cell research.), he would not visit there. He would exclusively speak at Christian or affiliated universities.

Plain and simple, he is a hypocrite.

Heck, Yale has The Stem Cell Center

http://stemcell.yale.edu/

ps - youre as one sided as 240 is. You will not bend to anything that is not religion or republican. I have never seen you ONCE here concede to a liberal or atheist viewpoint. NOT ONCE!!! You're just as bad as 240, if not worse. Pot meet kettle.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: The True Adonis on August 13, 2015, 04:26:59 PM
Coach, it's entirely possible to believe in a God/creator... and at the same time believe in some science too.

Carson knows what he's doing - He's saying what the anti-science base of the party wants to believe.

Carson is also a brain surgeon - he could probably lecture for 10 straight hours on the evolution of the brain - he knows full well there were humans on this planet for a million years.


It's kinda like not telling a kid you're taking him for a flu shot until you actually sit down for the shot.  He's immature, he'll kick and cry.  That's the base.  Better to just pat them on the head and nod along with their anti-science idiocy, win the job, and manage them well, as carson is attempting to do.

Coach, it's possible to 1) support Carson 2) understand he's just pandering to get votes.

They all do it.  
No he can't.

He is a moron actually.  Good at following directions.  No idea why people confuse and conflate intelligence with being a surgeon or a doctor.  I know many doctors who are pretty stupid actually.  One I know, who is considered one of the best cardiologists around, is also a young earth creationist and thinks that god guides his surgeries.  Scary shit to be in the care of someone like that in my opinion. Luckily, they aren't the ones doing the actual research.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: 240 is Back on August 13, 2015, 05:15:26 PM
Yet he was smart enough to draw his own conclusions and make his own decisions instead of having on the brainwashed teachings of liberal professors. You should change your name to strawman. You're one sided.

HUH ???

He draws his own conclusions?  Then why not have the balls to admit them to people?

So he does one thing, and tells people another?   sorry, can't defend dude for this.   
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 13, 2015, 08:12:11 PM
No, he has not made up his own decision. He still visits Yale to make speeches (in 2012-2013, he visited Yale Medical school and gave a speech. And I bet he still donates to Yale). If he was SO against liberal universities and stem cell research and abortions (Yale is in favor of abortion and stem cell research.), he would not visit there. He would exclusively speak at Christian or affiliated universities.

Plain and simple, he is a hypocrite.

Heck, Yale has The Stem Cell Center

http://stemcell.yale.edu/

ps - youre as one sided as 240 is. You will not bend to anything that is not religion or republican. I have never seen you ONCE here concede to a liberal or atheist viewpoint. NOT ONCE!!! You're just as bad as 240, if not worse. Pot meet kettle.

No, I just think 90% of the political left and those who support them are intellectually and morally dishonest without commonsense.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: SF1900 on August 13, 2015, 08:19:33 PM
No, I just think 90% of the political left and those who support them are intellectually and morally dishonest without commonsense.

I have two hands face palming my head. This is why its impossible to debate with you. Seriously, not trolling you, but you may have a reading comprehension problem.

Your above statement has absolutely nothing to do with what I said at all.

If Ben Carson truly changed his ways and was a strong advocate against abortion and stem cell research, then he would NOT visit a University that supports both!! It goes to show that he is not a man of true conviction. I would never give a speech at a Catholic University. That would not jive with me.

Yet, Carson, a devout theist, is giving talks at a University that supports gay marriage, abortion and stem cell research. He even gave a talk to Yale medical students. I am sure Yale medical school teaches doctors how to do an abortion.

He has not drawn any conclusions, and if he has, then he is going back on his word by supporting a university in which is so against many of his values.

Clearly, those liberal professors did a great job brainwashing him, considering he was a top pediatric neurosurgeon in a major hospital. I am sure he has many mentors from Yale medical school.

Again, he is a hypocrite. Plain and simple.

ps - youre just as stringent as 240 is in his thinking. Of course you think 90% of the left is dishonest and moraly bankrupt. And the left probably thinks the same about the right. Pot meet kettle on both sides.

And, again, you prove its impossible to debate with you, as your answers are from left field, and had nothing to do with the gist of my statement. I shall go back to ignoring you.  :D :D
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 13, 2015, 08:27:30 PM
I have two hands face palming my head. This is why its impossible to debate with you. Seriously, not trolling you, but you may have a reading comprehension problem.

Your above statement has absolutely nothing to do with what I said at all.

If Ben Carson truly changed his ways and was a strong advocate against abortion and stem cell research, then he would NOT visit a University that supports both!! It goes to show that he is not a man of true conviction. I would never give a speech at a Catholic University. That would not jive with me.

Yet, Carson, a devout theist, is giving talks at a University that supports gay marriage, abortion and stem cell research. He even gave a talk to Yale medical students. I am sure Yale medical school teaches doctors how to do an abortion.

He has not drawn any ben carson hypocriteonclusions, and if he has, then he is going back on his word by supporting a university in which is so against many of his values.

Clearly, those liberal professors did a great job brainwashing him, considering he was a top pediatric neurosurgeon in a major hospital. I am sure he has many mentors from Yale medical school.

Again, he is a hypocrite. Plain and simple.

ps - youre just as stringent as 240 is in his thinking. Of course you think 90% of the left is dishonest and moraly bankrupt. And the left probably thinks the same about the right. Pot meet kettle on both sides.

As I do a quick search while working. This is what Google came up with and I'm sure this is what yourself And 240 are going by....I'm not going to respond this thread until i hear the otherside of it. Regardless. Anyone but a progressive, left wing socialist.

just google "ben carson hypocrite" and see what pops up. All lib rags.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 13, 2015, 08:34:50 PM
Now that have a about 10min. I've said this a thousand times before. You have everything 240 puts out because of his leftiest dishonesty. He saw this, I know he did. But this didn't fit his little agenda.


https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ben-carson-performed-experiments-with-aborted-babies-tissue
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: 240 is Back on August 13, 2015, 08:44:37 PM
Now that have a about 10min. I've said this a thousand times before. You have everything 240 puts out because of his leftiest dishonesty. He saw this, I know he did. But this didn't fit his little agenda.


https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ben-carson-performed-experiments-with-aborted-babies-tissue

I dont know, dude.

"I am against abortion - but once it's done, we might as well benefit from the remains of the aborted child"?

NO NO NO, I don't like that one bit.  It's like being against killing cows, while eating your cheeseburger.  Or worse, selling cheeseburgers.   

Was Ben Carson given $ to work with this tissue?  Makes me sick to my stomach.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 13, 2015, 08:45:22 PM
Monkey's have been shown to stay away from snakes. They've even let non venomous snakes slither through their pack but a venomous snake will be killed with a rock, tree limb etc if the venomous gets to close...That is total rational thought.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: 240 is Back on August 13, 2015, 08:47:23 PM
Monkey's have been shown to stay away from snakes. They've even let non venomous snakes slither through their pack but a venomous snake will be killed with a rock, tree limb etc if the venomous gets to close...That is total rational thought.

rational agency.  
http://www.angelfire.com/linux/vjtorley/chapter4finalb.html
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: SF1900 on August 13, 2015, 08:55:28 PM
As I do a quick search while working. This is what Google came up with and I'm sure this is what yourself And 240 are going by....I'm not going to respond this thread until i hear the otherside of it. Regardless. Anyone but a progressive, left wing socialist.

just google "ben carson hypocrite" and see what pops up. All lib rags.

Holy shit, you are fucking dumb. I am not arguing about whether or not he experimented on aborted babies. THAT IS 240s argument, not mine. My argument was that he is giving lectures at liberal universities, which he so vehemently despises. These liberal universities who support gay marriage, abortion, stem cell research, and teach their students how do do an abortion.

HELLO, DINGBAT, here is the article. The article was posted by YALE UNIVERSITY!! THIS WAS JUST IN 2012!!

http://news.yale.edu/2012/06/07/alumnus-ben-carson-honors-young-scholars-shares-wisdom-graduating-doctors

HERE IS A PICTURE OF DR. CARSON AT YALE UNIVERSITY GIVING A TALK TO MEDICAL STUDENTS. THOSE SAME MEDICAL STUDENTS WHO PROBABLY LEARNED HOW TO DO ABORTIONS FROM THEIR YALE UNIVERSITY LIBERAL PROFESSORS AND WHO PROBABLY ALSO USE STEM CELLS!!

(http://s17.postimg.org/qy2wpjt8f/speaking.jpg)

When world-renowned pediatric neurosurgeon Dr. Benjamin S. Carson came to the Yale campus on May 21 to deliver the Yale School of Medicine commencement address.

God damn, there is something wrong with you!!  :-\ :-\

If Dr. Carson is so against liberalism, abortion, gay marriage, stem cell research, why give a lecture at a university that is VERY liberal? Because he is not a man of his conviction. A hypocrite. ID never give a lecture at a university if my values greatly conflicted with theirs. Plain and simple, he is a hypocrite.

Good luck, 240. You will probably have better luck smashing your head against a wall than arguing with certain people in this thread.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: mr.turbo on August 13, 2015, 09:11:01 PM
remember that thread about the pilot ordering obama around? hahaha

coach often has trouble agreeing with himself so it's not fair when you guys team up against him.

 :D
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: 240 is Back on August 13, 2015, 09:35:33 PM
HERE IS A PICTURE OF DR. CARSON AT YALE UNIVERSITY GIVING A TALK TO MEDICAL STUDENTS. THOSE SAME MEDICAL STUDENTS WHO PROBABLY LEARNED HOW TO DO ABORTIONS FROM THEIR YALE UNIVERSITY LIBERAL PROFESSORS AND WHO PROBABLY ALSO USE STEM CELLS!!

If Dr. Carson is so against liberalism, abortion, gay marriage, stem cell research, why give a lecture at a university that is VERY liberal? Because he is not a man of his conviction. A hypocrite. ID never give a lecture at a university if my values greatly conflicted with theirs. Plain and simple, he is a hypocrite.

ben carson is a politician.   he knows when to smile and show up and work for the libs when that is convenient.  He knows how to show up and make nazi quotes to get coverage in 2014.  And he knows how to jump on hotbutton issues in 2015.

he's a politician.  Once we admit that, then things like this become no big deal.  But as long as we have carson on this "finally, a man with integrity, he's no politician, he's a stalwart conservative"...

he comes from a liberal world - two liberal schools, then he goes back to speak there.  Also, he doesn't think every american needs access to guns - he thinks some areas shouldn't be allowed to own handguns...

IMO, being partially anti-gun is a bigger story than this one, but when I posted him being anti-gun, nobody wanted to talk about it either...
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 13, 2015, 09:57:04 PM
Holy shit, you are fucking dumb. I am not arguing about whether or not he experimented on aborted babies. THAT IS 240s argument, not mine. My argument was that he is giving lectures at liberal universities, which he so vehemently despises. These liberal universities who support gay marriage, abortion, stem cell research, and teach their students how do do an abortion.

HELLO, DINGBAT, here is the article. The article was posted by YALE UNIVERSITY!! THIS WAS JUST IN 2012!!

http://news.yale.edu/2012/06/07/alumnus-ben-carson-honors-young-scholars-shares-wisdom-graduating-doctors

HERE IS A PICTURE OF DR. CARSON AT YALE UNIVERSITY GIVING A TALK TO MEDICAL STUDENTS. THOSE SAME MEDICAL STUDENTS WHO PROBABLY LEARNED HOW TO DO ABORTIONS FROM THEIR YALE UNIVERSITY LIBERAL PROFESSORS AND WHO PROBABLY ALSO USE STEM CELLS!!

(http://s17.postimg.org/qy2wpjt8f/speaking.jpg)

When world-renowned pediatric neurosurgeon Dr. Benjamin S. Carson came to the Yale campus on May 21 to deliver the Yale School of Medicine commencement address.

God damn, there is something wrong with you!!  :-\ :-\

If Dr. Carson is so against liberalism, abortion, gay marriage, stem cell research, why give a lecture at a university that is VERY liberal? Because he is not a man of his conviction. A hypocrite. ID never give a lecture at a university if my values greatly conflicted with theirs. Plain and simple, he is a hypocrite.

Good luck, 240. You will probably have better luck smashing your head against a wall than arguing with certain people in this thread.

Jesus Christ where to start. So let me get this straight. A dr. Who went to Yale. Goes back and gives a lecture (eventually teaching) to other aspiring Dr's despite being a liberal university is being a hypocrite? Should he just avoid the university all together when he has the opportunity to educate? Im curious SF1900. How many lectures have you been to where you disagree with the professor? Remember, he's a doctor, a neurosurgeon to be exact and the best in his field. Other than the political opinion of abortion which I'm sure isn't brought up during a lecture, where does him being a hypocrite come in when he's more than likely lecturing on neuroscience?????
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: 240 is Back on August 13, 2015, 10:15:48 PM
Dr. Ben Carson Response To Accusation Of Research On Fetal Tissue
Facebook ^ | 08/13/2015 | Dr. Ben Carson



I wanted to use our time tonight to directly deal with an attack launched on me today by the left and the media. A couple questions came in on this subject, so I want to address it head on.

Today I was accused by the press as having done research on fetal tissue. It simply is not true. The study they distributed by an anonymous source was done in 1992. The study was about tumors. I won’t bore you with the science. There were four doctors' names on the study. One was mine. I spent my life studying brain tumors and removing them. My only involvement in this study was supplying tumors that I had removed from my patients. Those tissue samples were compared to other tissue samples under a microscope. Pathologists do this work to gain clues about tumors.

I, nor any of the doctors involved with this study, had anything to do with abortion or what Planned Parenthood has been doing. Research hospitals across the country have microscope slides of all kinds of tissue to compare and contrast. The fetal tissue that was viewed in this study by others was not collected for this study.

I am sickened by the attack that I, after having spent my entire life caring for children, had something to do with aborting a child and harvesting organs. My medical specialty is the human brain and even I am amazed at what it is capable of doing. Please know these attacks are pathetic attempts to blunt our progress.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Rajkapoor on August 14, 2015, 12:13:29 AM
Young earth FTW bitches.  Evolution is as bunk as Kigs!
Superior Hebrew Genetics.  Solomon like intellect and wisdom. 


Neanderthal talking shit out of his ass..in less than 100 years science brought religion on its knees.few more centuries and these kind of clowns will only be found in Museums just to show future generations how delusional we were once.Evolution is future religion.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: MAXX on August 14, 2015, 01:55:21 AM
facepalm on this whole thread... hebrews speculate..
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Europe on August 14, 2015, 04:11:13 AM
I was tempted to answer, however I see from previous replies I won't need to.

Wiggs I advice you to rethink your religious views, especially the Abrahemic(Christianity/Islam/Judaism) Religions. It has brought genocide, wars, enslavement, pollution.

I don't say you should leave your spirituality but leave a doctrine that has mostly served those that created abrahemic religions.


This documentary is always great to watch, because it can give you hints/clues on possible origins.




The Nommo was crucified and resurrected and in the future will again visit the Earth, this time in human form.

West-african Nommo / The Dogon tribe
(http://alieneight.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/nommos.jpg)


egypt:
(http://www.crystalinks.com/osiris3.gif)

Persia:
(http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_sumeranu/sumeranu14_11.gif)

Mesopotamia/Sumeria:
(http://www.thenewyoga.org/nagas_files/image006.jpg)

Bless you Wiggs, I hope you'll find the inner truth you're seeking
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Twaddle on August 14, 2015, 06:05:52 AM
As I do a quick search while working. This is what Google came up with and I'm sure this is what yourself And 240 are going by....I'm not going to respond this thread until i hear the otherside of it. Regardless. Anyone but a progressive, left wing socialist.

just google "ben carson hypocrite" and see what pops up. All lib rags.

Go back and read my first post in this thread.  I consider myself a right wing conservative.  I can't stand liberals.  I have a degree, background, and worked in the Biotech industry for years.  It is my firm belief that Carson is a complete fraud.  Having the science and medical background that he does, there is no way he believes in the shit that he is spouting.  240 said it best.  Carson is a politician, and that is the only reason he is spewing this nonsense.  He is trying to connect with the people who are the most gullible, and most easily persuaded.

If you believe for a second that he truly believes in the shit he's been saying during his lectures, then you're dumber than I thought.   :-\
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: SF1900 on August 14, 2015, 07:58:16 AM
Jesus Christ where to start. So let me get this straight. A dr. Who went to Yale. Goes back and gives a lecture (eventually teaching) to other aspiring Dr's despite being a liberal university is being a hypocrite? Should he just avoid the university all together when he has the opportunity to educate? Im curious SF1900. How many lectures have you been to where you disagree with the professor? Remember, he's a doctor, a neurosurgeon to be exact and the best in his field. Other than the political opinion of abortion which I'm sure isn't brought up during a lecture, where does him being a hypocrite come in when he's more than likely lecturing on neuroscience?????

I wrote out a whole response (2-3 paragraphs), but deleted it, because you are absolutely clueless and hopeless in every way imaginable. I will let you go back to owning yourself in every thread  :D :D

This is the only response I will have to you from now on.

(http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joystiq.com/media/2011/10/facepalm.jpg)


Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: 240 is Back on August 14, 2015, 08:23:49 AM
They did an analysis on the speaking of each of the GOP candidates. 

Trump speaks at the lowest level - his public speaking is a 3rd or 4th grade level.  "China is killing us.  I'm gonna make america great again".  Short sentences using simple words.  ANd it's a brilliant strategy - trump is leading with the lowest income and lowest education level voters, they're called "down scale" by researchers.

Trump is probably the least religious candidate in the race, right?  He's leading with evangelicals.  he's leading with the bible voters, despite being up against huckabee and others who cater/pander specifically to them.

Carson is just catering to them too - there's no way a brain surgeon doesn't have a HUGE understanding of brain evolution, carbon dating, etc. 

Carson is an actor, which is totally cool, as long as voters are smart enough to know it, and not choose him because he matches their views on this issue where he's obviously acting.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Twaddle on August 14, 2015, 08:26:34 AM
Carson is just catering to them too - there's no way a brain surgeon doesn't have a HUGE understanding of brain evolution, carbon dating, etc. 

Carson is an actor, which is totally cool, as long as voters are smart enough to know it, and not choose him because he matches their views on this issue where he's obviously acting.

Thread!
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: The True Adonis on August 14, 2015, 09:00:15 AM
They did an analysis on the speaking of each of the GOP candidates. 

Trump speaks at the lowest level - his public speaking is a 3rd or 4th grade level.  "China is killing us.  I'm gonna make america great again".  Short sentences using simple words.  ANd it's a brilliant strategy - trump is leading with the lowest income and lowest education level voters, they're called "down scale" by researchers.

Trump is probably the least religious candidate in the race, right?  He's leading with evangelicals.  he's leading with the bible voters, despite being up against huckabee and others who cater/pander specifically to them.

Carson is just catering to them too - there's no way a brain surgeon doesn't have a HUGE understanding of brain evolution, carbon dating, etc. 

Carson is an actor, which is totally cool, as long as voters are smart enough to know it, and not choose him because he matches their views on this issue where he's obviously acting.
He actually doesn't.

Most doctors don't even know what that stuff really is.  Do this, get to know a doctor, then ask him some basic question.  You may be amazed that they don't know a lot of shit, children should know, science wise.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: The Ugly on August 14, 2015, 01:37:39 PM
Have you considered it's you?  And I mean that in the least disrespectful way possible. Think about it. For all of known history people have worshiped Gods now all of a sudden people like you come along make a decision to not believe in God based on nothing.  The West has went from believers, to non believers and if you ask the non believers for proof, they'll give you the Big Bang THEORY or the THEORY of evolution.  There is not been 1 single shred of evidence ever proving this and there never will be. You've been brain washed and fight to continue to stay brainwashed to satisfy your worldly lusts. It's easier and more fun to not believe in God.  It's also very lazy.  Because I bet there are very, very few of you if any that have legitimately researched yours and other religions.  Why?  Well if you're an American you're fucked from birth with vaccines, GMO baby food, fluoridated water, television, consumerism, violence, sex, drugs, racism, greed, lust, alternative life styles, alternative genders, multiculturalism, political correctness, obesity, paganism, occultism, indoctrination, via trends, fashion, television, media, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, greed, greed, greed, slothfulness, mental laziness, and much more.  You don't even know it's happening because it is this western reality. And were so overworked and have a mentality of chasing the dollar, unless it is a pastime, most won't put any effort into their faith. You just repeat what is popular.  the religion of athiesm is constantly moving.  It's like an amorphous blob of ideas that's constantly shifting and changing to as new evidence comes out.  


Yes, thousands of them, with civilizations inevitably rejecting the last for the next. This should really tell you more about human nature (man's need for purpose and/or supernatural protection/assistance/guidance, inability to rationalize mortality, etc.) than it does anything divine or spiritual.

Also, you've addressed believer stats before, in a sort of 'How can SO MANY people possibly be wrong?'-type defense. A little inconsistent considering where you often invest your specific beliefs: wacky conspiracies, marginalized historical revisionism, cultish religious movements et al. If numbers are your concern, you must understand the vast majority finds these fringe allegiances pretty f'n ridiculous, too.

When it comes to religion, we are ALL condemned to another faith's hell, no escaping it. And I've never read anywhere that an atheist's eternity is any more or less tortuous than that of the believer who chose poorly. Odd that theists never lose sleep over that, though.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: YngiweRhoads on August 14, 2015, 05:46:25 PM
He actually doesn't.

Most doctors don't even know what that stuff really is.  Do this, get to know a doctor, then ask him some basic question.  You may be amazed that they don't know a lot of shit, children should know, science wise.

You don't have to be intelligent to be a doctor. You do need to be adept at memorization though.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Thong Maniac on August 14, 2015, 07:24:21 PM
Came into this thread expecting to read the usual absolute bullshit from people whos parents brainwashed them early on..."how do you explain that there still be monkeys, if evolution waz true?!", and i definitely was not let down.

However, i learned something new. I always thought coach was a pretty legit conservative, but this thread proves hes a social neo-con, and in which case, is not to be taken seriously on virtually anything he posts. He always shyed away from religious shit, so I had this feeling he was different. But, no...he is actually Incapable of seeing (or admitting), that the religious poison is preventing his "party" of winning elections now because he is what we call a "blind loyalist".

People my age laugh at these old loons like carson and these other old fogies like huckabee talking about hot button topics like abortion and gays to drum up support from their loudest base of uneducated bile belt voters because its easy votes. The left does the same with inner city votes as they market tp their base on issues like min. Wage and other hot buttons they care about. Its issues that any christian from the sticks can rally behind and understand easily, "carson is against them big city libs who kill babies and dont pray to jeebus, they also makin pastors marry faggz!" and the left voters can understand the "we need more moniez, they gonna give me more welfare for ma 9 kidz".

and honestly, anyone who seriously says "liberal universities" , is someone i probably would distance myself from in real life. Coach, not gonna send your kid to one of those colleges full of libs where they learn basic science from experts in the field because of your own insecurities and lack of understanding?
Sf1900 , 240, and others are pretty open minded anc concede on lots of things. For example, im pro gun, fiscally conservative, and want to legalize drugs...all true conservative stances. However, your "party" wont ever get my vote until they drop the religious noise. Until that date, ill cast my vote for intelligence..every time. Science is how we Have progressed. Religion, is how you digress. You can look to the middle east for those examples.

Whatever, you will always be one sided and view the world from your sheltered island. This whole presidential voting and side picking is just adult fandom anyway. Just a distraction. Nothing more or less than Caitlyn Jenners struggles or redskins vs the cowboys drama. Once one of these goons gets put into the white house, its business as usual, so stop acting like it fucking matters or your life is some how going to be changed neg or positive because it WONT. The hyper political bullshit is just a way of feeling like you have something important to worry about, but all its doing is making your blood pressure bad and alienating friends, clients, and family. Its just so retarded on so many levels. Adults with too much free time is basically whats going with the politics shit lol

Edit: i also find it sooo odd that no outspoken republican/conservative on this forum or others I read EVER criticizes the religious bullshit that republican politics is so heavily on these days. I never see anyone mention it. Ill pick apart liberal agenda all day long like PC bullshit, and feminist crap. Never once do I see a republican call out this christian witch craft. I know you true conservatives are out there somewhere


Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: mr.turbo on August 14, 2015, 07:30:11 PM
^ what he said

 :D
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: SF1900 on August 14, 2015, 07:39:00 PM
Came into this thread expecting to read the usual absolute bullshit from people whos parents brainwashed them early on..."how do you explain that there still be monkeys, if evolution waz true?!", and i definitely was not let down.

However, i learned something new. I always thought coach was a pretty legit conservative, but this thread proves hes a social neo-con, and in which case, is not to be taken seriously on virtually anything he posts. He always shyed away from religious shit, so I had this feeling he was different. But, no...he is actually Incapable of seeing (or admitting), that the religious poison is preventing his "party" of winning elections now because he is what we call a "blind loyalist".

People my age laugh at these old loons like carson and these other old fogies like huckabee talking about hot button topics like abortion and gays to drum up support from their loudest base of uneducated bile belt voters because its easy votes. The left does the same with inner city votes as they market tp their base on issues like min. Wage and other hot buttons they care about. Its issues that any christian from the sticks can rally behind and understand easily, "carson is against them big city libs who kill babies and dont pray to jeebus, they also makin pastors marry faggz!" and the left voters can understand the "we need more moniez, they gonna give me more welfare for ma 9 kidz".

and honestly, anyone who seriously says "liberal universities" , is someone i probably would distance myself from in real life. Coach, not gonna send your kid to one of those colleges full of libs where they learn basic science from experts in the field because of your own insecurities and lack of understanding?
Sf1900 , 240, and others are pretty open minded anc concede on lots of things. For example, im pro gun, fiscally conservative, and want to legalize drugs...all true conservative stances. However, your "party" wont ever get my vote until they drop the religious noise. Until that date, ill cast my vote for intelligence..every time. Science is how we Have progressed. Religion, is how you digress. You can look to the middle east for those examples.

Whatever, you will always be one sided and view the world from your sheltered island. This whole presidential voting and side picking is just adult fandom anyway. Just a distraction. Nothing more or less than Caitlyn Jenners struggles or redskins vs the cowboys drama. Once one of these goons gets put into the white house, its business as usual, so stop acting like it fucking matters or your life is some how going to be changed neg or positive because it WONT. The hyper political bullshit is just a way of feeling like you have something important to worry about, but all its doing is making your blood pressure bad and alienating friends, clients, and family. Its just so retarded on so many levels. Adults with too much free time is basically whats going with the politics shit lol

Edit: i also find it sooo odd that no outspoken republican/conservative on this forum or others I read EVER criticizes the religious bullshit that republican politics is so heavily on these days. I never see anyone mention it. Ill pick apart liberal agenda all day long like PC bullshit, and feminist crap. Never once do I see a republican call out this christian witch craft. I know you true conservatives are out there somewhere




(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RQ4eaMwPi4U/Us6HU-SP1NI/AAAAAAAAP2Q/-sdI9Au7jno/s1600/fortune-clapping.gif)
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 14, 2015, 07:39:10 PM
Came into this thread expecting to read the usual absolute bullshit from people whos parents brainwashed them early on..."how do you explain that there still be monkeys, if evolution waz true?!", and i definitely was not let down.

However, i learned something new. I always thought coach was a pretty legit conservative, but this thread proves hes a social neo-con, and in which case, is not to be taken seriously on virtually anything he posts. He always shyed away from religious shit, so I had this feeling he was different. But, no...he is actually Incapable of seeing (or admitting), that the religious poison is preventing his "party" of winning elections now because he is what we call a "blind loyalist".

People my age laugh at these old loons like carson and these other old fogies like huckabee talking about hot button topics like abortion and gays to drum up support from their loudest base of uneducated bile belt voters because its easy votes. The left does the same with inner city votes as they market tp their base on issues like min. Wage and other hot buttons they care about. Its issues that any christian from the sticks can rally behind and understand easily, "carson is against them big city libs who kill babies and dont pray to jeebus, they also makin pastors marry faggz!" and the left voters can understand the "we need more moniez, they gonna give me more welfare for ma 9 kidz".

and honestly, anyone who seriously says "liberal universities" , is someone i probably would distance myself from in real life. Coach, not gonna send your kid to one of those colleges full of libs where they learn basic science from experts in the field because of your own insecurities and lack of understanding?
Sf1900 , 240, and others are pretty open minded anc concede on lots of things. For example, im pro gun, fiscally conservative, and want to legalize drugs...all true conservative stances. However, your "party" wont ever get my vote until they drop the religious noise. Until that date, ill cast my vote for intelligence..every time. Science is how we Have progressed. Religion, is how you digress. You can look to the middle east for those examples.

Whatever, you will always be one sided and view the world from your sheltered island. This whole presidential voting and side picking is just adult fandom anyway. Just a distraction. Nothing more or less than Caitlyn Jenners struggles or redskins vs the cowboys drama. Once one of these goons gets put into the white house, its business as usual, so stop acting like it fucking matters or your life is some how going to be changed neg or positive because it WONT. The hyper political bullshit is just a way of feeling like you have something important to worry about, but all its doing is making your blood pressure bad and alienating friends, clients, and family. Its just so retarded on so many levels. Adults with too much free time is basically whats going with the politics shit lol

Edit: i also find it sooo odd that no outspoken republican/conservative on this forum or others I read EVER criticizes the religious bullshit that republican politics is so heavily on these days. I never see anyone mention it. Ill pick apart liberal agenda all day long like PC bullshit, and feminist crap. Never once do I see a republican call out this christian witch craft. I know you true conservatives are out there somewhere




Awesome. I struck a nerve with libs. My intention. Btw, what is your age?
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Thong Maniac on August 14, 2015, 07:40:55 PM
Awesome. I struck a nerve with libs. My intention. Btw, what is your age?

Not even a lib, as I mentioned, im probably more of a true conservative than you are. Neo-cons gonna neo-con

Probably gonna vote for donald actually
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 14, 2015, 07:49:09 PM
Not even a lib, as I mentioned, im probably more of a true conservative than you are. Neo-cons gonna neo-con

Probably gonna vote for donald actually

Wait, but in other posts I'm pretty sure you called yourself a liberal. What is your age?
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Thong Maniac on August 14, 2015, 07:51:55 PM
Wait, but in other posts I'm pretty sure you called yourself a liberal. What is your age?

Yes i vote liberal usually (not always at the local level), and my post earlier explained why. I also vote on Issues not party, as any american SHOULD. I am early thirties. Now feel free to address my first post, or ignore it as usual and use little jabs instead like "making libs angry again"... So dry and dull. Are you incapable of having a real discussion and conceding on some ground, or am I right that you are 100 percent a blind loyalist?
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Thong Maniac on August 14, 2015, 07:53:35 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RQ4eaMwPi4U/Us6HU-SP1NI/AAAAAAAAP2Q/-sdI9Au7jno/s1600/fortune-clapping.gif)

Lol thankkkkzzzz
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: SF1900 on August 14, 2015, 07:54:45 PM
Yes i vote liberal usually (not always at the local level), and my post earlier explained why. I am early thirties. Now feel free to address my first post, or ignore it as usual and use little jabs instead like "making libs angry again"... So dry and dull. Are you incapable of having a real discussion and conceding on some ground, or am I right that you are 100 percent a blind loyalist?

Wait for the:

"ahahah lol, stupid liberals" or "hahaha lol those liberal atheists are brain washed" or "hahaha lol. liberals and atheist suck. Religious people an republicans are always 100% right" or "I am fucking right, and youre wrong, stupid liberal atheists ahah lol"

Its coming..............just wait for it.  :D :D
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Thong Maniac on August 14, 2015, 07:56:48 PM
Wait for the:

"ahahah lol, stupid liberals" or "hahaha lol those liberal atheists are brain washed" or "hahaha lol. liberals and atheist suck. Religious people an republicans are always 100% right" or "I am fucking right, and youre wrong, stupid liberal atheists ahah lol"

Its coming..............just wait for it.  :D :D

I need to take my own advice and drop the political conversations. Just black holes of wasted energy. Back to studying my "liberal" class work.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 14, 2015, 07:57:35 PM
Wait for the:

"ahahah lol, stupid liberals" or "hahaha lol those liberal atheists are brain washed" or "hahaha lol. liberals and atheist suck. Religious people an republicans are always 100% right" or "I am fucking right, and youre wrong, stupid liberal atheists ahah lol"

Its coming..............just wait for it.  :D :D

Liberals are very smart when it comes to academics. Get most of them outside of their element and they're  socially lost, confused, etc
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Thong Maniac on August 14, 2015, 07:59:08 PM
Wait for the:

"ahahah lol, stupid liberals" or "hahaha lol those liberal atheists are brain washed" or "hahaha lol. liberals and atheist suck. Religious people an republicans are always 100% right" or "I am fucking right, and youre wrong, stupid liberal atheists ahah lol"

Its coming..............just wait for it.  :D :D

Lol you were right. More of the same "libs this, libs that". Dull, talk about being "socially Lost/confused"
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: SF1900 on August 14, 2015, 08:02:12 PM
I need to take my own advice and drop the political conversations. Just black holes of wasted energy. Back to studying my "liberal" class work.

Just troll. Its fun. To be honest, outside of getbig, I never even follow politics lol. I don't discuss politics in real life really.  I spend most of my time reading about psychology, philosophy, ethology/zoology, neuroscience, and anthropology. I have recently become interested in the intersection of art and philosophy. Ive only voted ONCE in my life, and I voted for the Independent Party in 2012. Other than that, I will never enter a poll booth again.

But its fun watching the idiotic, hyper-political people on getbig get their panties in a bunch.  :D :D
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: SF1900 on August 14, 2015, 08:05:17 PM
Lol you were right. More of the same "libs this, libs that". Dull, talk about being "socially Lost/confused"

See, what did I tell you! You can't argue with stupid.

Many academic are adept at diverse fields of study. You'd be surprised how many academics are into cross-disciplinary work. Its actually quite common. The idea that taking them out of their element and they are lost is erroneous. Ive met A LOT of liberal professors that are brilliant in their area of study, yet I have had more personal conversations with them in real life, and they are socially smart, friendly, and very smart in many ways. Again, you cant argue with stupid.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 14, 2015, 08:11:23 PM
Two posts In row from you defending what I posted. Here's an example of being socially lost and confused. a vagina suit :-\

Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: hardgainerj on August 14, 2015, 08:49:57 PM
Two posts In row from you defending what I posted. Here's an example of being socially lost and confused. a vagina suit :-\


go to bed you lost
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: 240 is Back on August 14, 2015, 11:44:14 PM
Liberals are very smart when it comes to academics. Get most of them outside of their element and they're  socially lost, confused, etc

What areas are liberals lost and confused?

They are smart in academics, you'd admitted that.

What areas are they 'lost' in?
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: The Ugly on August 15, 2015, 01:14:22 AM
Came into this thread expecting to read the usual absolute bullshit from people whos parents brainwashed them early on..."how do you explain that there still be monkeys, if evolution waz true?!", and i definitely was not let down.

However, i learned something new. I always thought coach was a pretty legit conservative, but this thread proves hes a social neo-con, and in which case, is not to be taken seriously on virtually anything he posts. He always shyed away from religious shit, so I had this feeling he was different. But, no...he is actually Incapable of seeing (or admitting), that the religious poison is preventing his "party" of winning elections now because he is what we call a "blind loyalist".

People my age laugh at these old loons like carson and these other old fogies like huckabee talking about hot button topics like abortion and gays to drum up support from their loudest base of uneducated bile belt voters because its easy votes. The left does the same with inner city votes as they market tp their base on issues like min. Wage and other hot buttons they care about. Its issues that any christian from the sticks can rally behind and understand easily, "carson is against them big city libs who kill babies and dont pray to jeebus, they also makin pastors marry faggz!" and the left voters can understand the "we need more moniez, they gonna give me more welfare for ma 9 kidz".

and honestly, anyone who seriously says "liberal universities" , is someone i probably would distance myself from in real life. Coach, not gonna send your kid to one of those colleges full of libs where they learn basic science from experts in the field because of your own insecurities and lack of understanding?
Sf1900 , 240, and others are pretty open minded anc concede on lots of things. For example, im pro gun, fiscally conservative, and want to legalize drugs...all true conservative stances. However, your "party" wont ever get my vote until they drop the religious noise. Until that date, ill cast my vote for intelligence..every time. Science is how we Have progressed. Religion, is how you digress. You can look to the middle east for those examples.

Whatever, you will always be one sided and view the world from your sheltered island. This whole presidential voting and side picking is just adult fandom anyway. Just a distraction. Nothing more or less than Caitlyn Jenners struggles or redskins vs the cowboys drama. Once one of these goons gets put into the white house, its business as usual, so stop acting like it fucking matters or your life is some how going to be changed neg or positive because it WONT. The hyper political bullshit is just a way of feeling like you have something important to worry about, but all its doing is making your blood pressure bad and alienating friends, clients, and family. Its just so retarded on so many levels. Adults with too much free time is basically whats going with the politics shit lol

Edit: i also find it sooo odd that no outspoken republican/conservative on this forum or others I read EVER criticizes the religious bullshit that republican politics is so heavily on these days. I never see anyone mention it. Ill pick apart liberal agenda all day long like PC bullshit, and feminist crap. Never once do I see a republican call out this christian witch craft. I know you true conservatives are out there somewhere




1) Please elaborate. Do you disagree that they're liberal, or are you saying you WANT liberal universities?

2) I'm also bothered by the bible's influence on Republicans. Wish they'd embrace social liberalism, and science, more importantly. Though, to me, the lesser of two evils is still the candidate who favors smaller government and supports fiscal conservatism. Unfortunately, Libertarians are still not a viable alternative; plus, they got a few silly policies of their own.

3) I've criticized them plenty, most of my posts just go unnoticed is all. And I never visit the political board. HATE that every candidates have to toe a party line across the board. Honestly wish we could do away with the two altogether, so each candidate decides on issues individually, rather than accept someone else's pre-determined ideology wholesale.

All due respect, I'll never understand how 'common sense' conservatives suddenly shift gears when it comes to sacred fairy tales and an invisible magician.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: James28 on August 15, 2015, 01:21:09 AM
it really worries me that they are people around me that believe that theres a being that controls the universe and can tell them what to do. I mean people that say God told me to do x y z... very disconcerting.

Does this bother anybody else?

Not at all. I've long since accepted that Wiggs' people are of lower intelligence and therefore more taken with fairy tales and easier to control with drugs, money and immediate satisfaction. If it keeps the apes from rioting and murdering believing that a powerful being pulls the strings somewhere in the universe and will rain fire on them, then have at it.

Africans tend to be very religious and superstitious. It's in the DNA.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: The Ugly on August 15, 2015, 01:24:58 AM
Not even a lib, as I mentioned, im probably more of a true conservative than you are. Neo-cons gonna neo-con

Probably gonna vote for donald actually

I get the same thing. Just as conservative as those in my circle, but when they start discussing talking snakes, a 600 year-old floating zookeeper, and the great dinosaur hoax, I instantly become a socialist libtard.

Troubling, as there's no future in this type of ignorant mindset. More troubling still that this overwhelmingly represents the party's base.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Thong Maniac on August 15, 2015, 04:10:36 AM
I get the same thing. Just as conservative as those in my circle, but when they start discussing talking snakes, a 600 year-old floating zookeeper, and the great dinosaur hoax, I instantly become a socialist libtard.

Troubling, as there's no future in this type of ignorant mindset. More troubling still that this overwhelmingly represents the party's base.

Very refreshing to read your posts bro, there are far too few of people like you, common sense REAL conservatives. Reading this board you would think they dont exist. Coach probably thinks your a "librul".
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: 240 is Back on August 15, 2015, 07:12:36 AM
Ben Carson: No apologies for 1992 fetal tissue research


Source: Washington Post

Ben Carson defended the use of fetal tissue for medical research Thursday, after a blog published excerpts of a 1992 paper describing work the neurosurgeon-turned-presidential candidate carried out using aborted fetuses. In an interview with the Washington Post, Carson called the revelation "desperate," and ignorant of the way medical research was carried out.

"You have to look at the intent," Carson said before beginning a campaign swing through New Hampshire. "To willfully ignore evidence that you have for some ideological reason is wrong. If you’re killing babies and taking the tissue, that’s a very different thing than taking a dead specimen and keeping a record of it."

Carson, who has risen in primary polls since last week's debate, is among the Republicans who've condemned Planned Parenthood after undercover videos revealed executives in the organization coldly discussing the extraction and distribution of tissue from aborted fetuses. In a July interview on Fox News, after the first videos broke, Carson said that there was “nothing that can’t be done without fetal tissue" and that babies aborted at 17 weeks were clearly human beings.

That inspired Dr. Jen Gunter to excavate a 1992 paper, co-authored by Carson, in which doctors described how they applied "human choroid plexus ependyma and nasal mucosa from two fetuses aborted in the ninth and 17th week of gestation." That, wrote Gunter, was quite the contrast from Carson's 2015 denunciation of fetal tissue research.

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Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/13/ben-carson-no-apologies-for-1992-fetal-tissue-research/
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Necrosis on August 15, 2015, 07:21:16 AM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RQ4eaMwPi4U/Us6HU-SP1NI/AAAAAAAAP2Q/-sdI9Au7jno/s1600/fortune-clapping.gif)

however, red states have the most welfare, and it's not close. How does this fit into your narrative of liberals needing welfare etc.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: el numero uno on August 15, 2015, 07:31:23 AM
He actually doesn't.


And you know this because...?  ::)
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2015, 04:27:16 PM
And you know this because...?  ::)
Because its been his position his whole life, its in every article printed about him, he references it in every speech he has ever given, in every talk to religious people he has ever done going years back.

Dumbfuck.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: The True Adonis on August 15, 2015, 04:28:06 PM
however, red states have the most welfare, and it's not close. How does this fit into your narrative of liberals needing welfare etc.
The blacks are all in the red states, genius.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: el numero uno on August 15, 2015, 04:50:45 PM
Because its been his position his whole life, its in every article printed about him, he references it in every speech he has ever given, in every talk to religious people he has ever done going years back.

Dumbfuck.

Reading comprehension of peace  ::)

Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 15, 2015, 05:13:07 PM
Do blacks hate the idea of evolution because they fail to see their connection to Apes?

Not racist of course since evolution claims that man came from Apes- sorry mods, no racist baiting here.

I believe this post has a bingo-factor
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Necrosis on August 16, 2015, 04:45:01 AM
The blacks are all in the red states, genius.

It was a rhetorical question :-\

cannot detect sarcasm
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: agenda21nwo on August 16, 2015, 08:29:58 AM
Young earth FTW bitches.  Evolution is as bunk as Kigs!
Superior Hebrew Genetics.  Solomon like intellect and wisdom. 



Thank you I will watch this later :-)
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: The True Adonis on August 16, 2015, 10:20:21 AM
It was a rhetorical question :-\

cannot detect sarcasm
I did not even read the username when the comment was posted to be honest. ;)

I have always liked you my friend!
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: liberalismo on August 16, 2015, 10:23:12 AM
The reason people can be scientists and believe in evolution but also believe in God is because they segment and compartmentalize their thinking. They think rationally about their jobs and science but in the area of metaphysical things all logic goes out the window. Trying to believe in Evolution AND Christianity requires mental gymnastics. They aren't compatible. Unless you dismiss a large part of the bible you can not also support evolution.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Necrosis on August 16, 2015, 02:02:53 PM
I did not even read the username when the comment was posted to be honest. ;)

I have always liked you my friend!


 :D
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: BigRo on August 16, 2015, 02:05:44 PM
The reason people can be scientists and believe in evolution but also believe in God is because they segment and compartmentalize their thinking. They think rationally about their jobs and science but in the area of metaphysical things all logic goes out the window. Trying to believe in Evolution AND Christianity requires mental gymnastics. They aren't compatible. Unless you dismiss a large part of the bible you can not also support evolution.

Evolution and Spirituality are compatible.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: 240 is Back on August 16, 2015, 02:16:37 PM
Evolution and Spirituality are compatible.

I listen to a lot of conservative radio ( I also watch Maddow and sometimes lawence odonnell most nights)

Liberals and atheists are often painted as the same by these hosts.  "These liberal atheists!" over and over. 

After a while, many conservatives tend to just connect the two.  Every democrat is a godless anti-God atheist that loves abortion and is on welfare.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: thegamechanger on August 16, 2015, 02:20:40 PM
when it comes to the big questions in life i come to the guys benching and drinking proteinshakes for answers and guidance.

good thread. keep it up guys. and when youre done with this, why not make another thread where you explain consciousness.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: BigRo on August 16, 2015, 02:36:37 PM
when it comes to the big questions in life i come to the guys benching and drinking proteinshakes for answers and guidance.

good thread. keep it up guys. and when youre done with this, why not make another thread where you explain consciousness.


consciousness is to be experienced not explained
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 16, 2015, 06:42:20 PM
I listen to a lot of conservative radio ( I also watch Maddow and sometimes lawence odonnell most nights)

Liberals and atheists are often painted as the same by these hosts.  "These liberal atheists!" over and over. 

After a while, many conservatives tend to just connect the two.  Every democrat is a godless anti-God atheist that loves abortion and is on welfare.

Because liberal atheist is more plausible and believable than liberal Christian.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: syntaxmachine on August 16, 2015, 09:13:42 PM
The Hebronical drive to censor perceived symbols of retrograde attitudes such as the Confederate flag is quite ironic given their own (generally) backwards stances towards evolution (viz., widespread denial) and homosexuality (viz., widespread intolerance), among other things. Veritably, they are an interest group promoting their own lot exclusively rather than acting sociotropically for the good of all.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: 240 is Back on August 16, 2015, 09:24:49 PM
Because liberal atheist is more plausible and believable than liberal Christian.

wouldn't you mean "liberal conservative"?

We're talking opposites, right?   Liberal and conservative are opposites.  If you're saying liberal and Christian are opposites, then you've just proven my theory about Rush brainwashing people into believing that, to be correct.

I love to argue with you - But this unwillingness to debate points - and to revert to name calling and general assumptions - I miss the old coach that'd debate.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: The Ugly on August 16, 2015, 09:34:58 PM
The Hebronical drive to censor perceived symbols of retrograde attitudes such as the Confederate flag is quite ironic given their own (generally) backwards stances towards evolution (viz., widespread denial) and homosexuality (viz., widespread intolerance), among other things. Veritably, they are an interest group promoting their own lot exclusively rather than acting sociotropically for the good of all.

So painfully obvious in their vociferous opposition to 'ALL Lives Matter.'
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 16, 2015, 09:55:40 PM
wouldn't you mean "liberal conservative"?

We're talking opposites, right?   Liberal and conservative are opposites.  If you're saying liberal and Christian are opposites, then you've just proven my theory about Rush brainwashing people into believing that, to be correct.

I love to argue with you - But this unwillingness to debate points - and to revert to name calling and general assumptions - I miss the old coach that'd debate.

You're arguing is exhausting. You argue just to hear your head roar. The only thing you've been right on is Obama winning......and its been an eight year disaster, like I predicted.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 17, 2015, 02:02:04 AM
You're arguing is exhausting. You argue just to hear your head roar. The only thing you've been right on is Obama winning......and its been an eight year disaster, like I predicted.

LOL, you never had an argument so far, the subject training excluded.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: 10pints on August 17, 2015, 02:25:39 AM
I laugh in the face of religion, and the fools who subscribe to it. Weak minded simpletons, who have allowed their minds to be infected with a virus.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: BigRo on August 17, 2015, 02:40:38 AM
the esoteric essence of religion is good. Go back to your 10 pints alco.
Title: Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
Post by: 10pints on August 17, 2015, 03:22:06 AM
the esoteric essence of religion is good. Go back to your 10 pints alco.

I esoterically laugh in your face.