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Title: Americans and their guns
Post by: WOOO on September 18, 2015, 06:29:37 PM
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Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Irongrip400 on September 18, 2015, 06:42:12 PM
I like guns.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 18, 2015, 06:52:17 PM
 :-X
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 18, 2015, 07:13:47 PM
The smegma will ruin the finish.   :D
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: OB1 on September 18, 2015, 07:14:57 PM
I would shoot myself.
 :-X
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Voice of Doom on September 18, 2015, 07:17:29 PM
Just picked up S&W Bodyguard 380 for CC on those really hot Texas days.   ;D
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: HTexan on September 18, 2015, 07:26:26 PM
Just picked up S&W Bodyguard 380 for CC on those really hot Texas days.   ;D
i fucking love the M&P line, great guns.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: OB1 on September 18, 2015, 07:28:30 PM
I had a Walther P88.
Sold it.
Sometimes i wish i hadn't.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: HTexan on September 18, 2015, 07:32:05 PM
I had a Walther P88.
Sold it.
Sometimes i wish i hadn't.
why not?  ???

I don't really conceal carry anymore, unless i'm traveling . My job doesn't allow guns on their property.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: OB1 on September 18, 2015, 07:36:41 PM
why not?  ???

I don't really conceal carry anymore, unless i'm traveling . My job doesn't allow guns on their property.

It was beautiful.
I miss touching it.
 :-\
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: T-REX007 on September 18, 2015, 07:45:00 PM
1911  .45 ACP

The ULTIMATE handgun !

 :)
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Voice of Doom on September 18, 2015, 09:25:44 PM
i fucking love the M&P line, great guns.
Agreed.  I have also have the Shield in 9mm. It's my EDC except for days I want to wear dress clothes or shorts.  Then the 380.  Both guns function flawlessly and eat ammo with no problems.  Neither trigger is fantastic but I hear the aftermarket kits are superb.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: HTexan on September 18, 2015, 09:54:02 PM
Agreed.  I have also have the Shield in 9mm. It's my EDC except for days I want to wear dress clothes or shorts.  Then the 380.  Both guns function flawlessly and eat ammo with no problems.  Neither trigger is fantastic but I hear the aftermarket kits are superb.
I find them very accurate.  8)
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _bruce_ on September 19, 2015, 03:06:06 AM
1911  .45 ACP

The ULTIMATE handgun !

 :)

I've read that many times - why the fame... combination of ammo cost, reliability, firing power or did the Weiders promote it?
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 19, 2015, 03:48:53 AM
Summer gun is the LCP in .380 with the Crimson Trace. It'll probably take all 7 rounds to stop somebody, but it sure is thin and light.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 19, 2015, 03:54:23 AM
I've read that many times - why the fame... combination of ammo cost, reliability, firing power or did the Weiders promote it?

It's partially justified and partially just the John Moses Browning bigotry of gun owners. The 1911 is big, relatively heavy "single stack" (read: holds less ammo) that shoots a big bullet. It's quintessentially American: overweight, made of solid steel, with a small number of haymakers.

That said, the shootability of the platform is great. The barrel axis (how low the barrel sits in relation to your wrist) is very low and that makes for much more controllable recoil. Only the Glock comes close these days.

It's not a beginner's gun, as there are a lot of controls on it that beginners can forget. I shot a comp with mine and forgot to disengage the manual safety out of the holster. Cost me more than a second. I wasn't gonna win anyway, but that was embarrassing.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Tedim on September 19, 2015, 04:21:31 AM
I carry a Smith 38 and her sister....consecutive serial numbers nickeled

At home sits a 45 Kimber and shit load of bigger fun sticks
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Tapeworm on September 19, 2015, 05:34:17 AM
why not?  ???

I don't really conceal carry anymore, unless i'm traveling . My job doesn't allow guns on their property.

Unconstitutional.  If guns aren't allowed then the only people who will be allowed to have them are outlaws.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 19, 2015, 05:43:34 AM
You don't have the right as a civilian with a carry permit to enter private property that restricts firearms. If a business has a sign that says no firearms you are breaking the law if you enter with a gun.

Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 19, 2015, 05:55:34 AM
It was beautiful.
I miss touching it.
 :-\

I too miss the touch of my beloved firearm.  Knowing that it's always there to take care of me.  Sleeping with me, close by, keeping me safe.  Ohhhhhh, how I miss her dearly.  We had a relationship that cannot be described in words.   :'(
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: calfzilla on September 19, 2015, 05:59:36 AM
Summer gun is the LCP in .380 with the Crimson Trace. It'll probably take all 7 rounds to stop somebody, but it sure is thin and light.

Been studying this gun, thinking of getting one. It's cheap, Ruger is dependable and it's something easy to carry, even in summer when not much clothes are worn (no homo)

I talke it you recommend the LCP?
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Alucard on September 19, 2015, 06:06:56 AM
Fat, obese, didgusting, unhealthy, pistol, gun, handgun, conceal, carry, ccw, funny, nasty... ;D
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Tapeworm on September 19, 2015, 06:10:33 AM
You don't have the right as a civilian with a carry permit to enter private property that restricts firearms. If a business has a sign that says no firearms you are breaking the law if you enter with a gun.



Is the entire Bill of Rights voided once you're on someone's land or just #2?  Can I post "US law does not apply within this property's boundaries?"
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 19, 2015, 06:16:41 AM
Is the entire Bill of Rights voided once you're on someone's land or just #2?  Can I post "US law does not apply within this property's boundaries?"

He's right. Private property owners can forbid it. He's incorrect that it is de facto illegal. If you carry a gun on private property that is posted against it, the best the property owner can do is sue you for trespass, as your invitation was essentially revoked when you broke his posted rules.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 19, 2015, 06:19:30 AM
Been studying this gun, thinking of getting one. It's cheap, Ruger is dependable and it's something easy to carry, even in summer when not much clothes are worn (no homo)

I talke it you recommend the LCP?

With all the usual caveats about the inherent weakness of the .380 round and the 6+1 capacity, sure. It's not something that you'll want in a prolonged firefight. Think of it as your "shoot your way to a better gun" gun. I used to carry a Seecamp .32 as my summer gun. Talk about limitations! The only gunfight that thing can be effective is a gunfight in an elevator.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Tapeworm on September 19, 2015, 06:23:41 AM
He's right. Private property owners can forbid it. He's incorrect that it is de facto illegal. If you carry a gun on private property that is posted against it, the best the property owner can do is sue you for trespass, as your invitation was essentially revoked when you broke his posted rules.

Clear infringement of the right to bear arms.  His condition of invitation ought to be invalid, no?
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 19, 2015, 06:25:08 AM
Clear infringement of the right to bear arms.  His condition of invitation ought to be invalid, no?

No. The BoR is a list of things that the government may NOT do. It is silent on the private affairs of men.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Tapeworm on September 19, 2015, 06:35:18 AM
Disagree.  The right of property ownership does not extend so far as to allow civil legislation to override the BoR.  To uphold a civil suit of trespass because someone had a gun is to uphold a law that infringes the right to bear arms.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: OB1 on September 19, 2015, 06:41:33 AM
I too miss the touch of my beloved firearm.  Knowing that it's always there to take care of me.  Sleeping with me, close by, keeping me safe.  Ohhhhhh, how I miss her dearly.  We had a relationship that cannot be described in words.   :'(

same.
 :-\
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 19, 2015, 06:41:50 AM
My summer carry piece.  Small, lightweight, easily keistered! 

(http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/9328130353/11727871/babybrowningblhand.jpg_thumbnail0.jpg)
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 19, 2015, 06:49:36 AM
Disagree.  The right of property ownership does not extend so far as to allow civil legislation to override the BoR.  To uphold a civil suit of trespass because someone had a gun is to uphold a law that infringes the right to bear arms.

Well, every court up to and including SCOTUS disagrees. So enjoy your lonely opinion.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Tapeworm on September 19, 2015, 06:53:05 AM
That's because there's a conspiracy to take your guns.  It's the thin end of the wedge.  Heed my words.  Heed them.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: SF1900 on September 19, 2015, 07:03:19 AM
My state doesn't allow peoole to carry guns.  Now I'll never be a paranoid, gun nutter. :-(
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: T-REX007 on September 19, 2015, 07:11:46 AM
When talking shotguns, Browning again is at the top, the A-5 has got to be the best all around , reliable, hard to "screw up" shot gun ever built.

Simply put, almost perfection
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 19, 2015, 07:12:03 AM
That's because there's a conspiracy to take your guns.  It's the thin end of the wedge.  Heed my words.  Heed them.

There is a concerted effort to take away guns, but it isn't being spearheaded by the individual rights of property owners. It's being spearheaded by collective rights and the weight of government.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: King Shizzo on September 19, 2015, 07:15:51 AM
It was beautiful.
I miss touching it.
 :-\
I'm sure Caitlyn Jenner will suffer from the same regrets.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 19, 2015, 07:32:06 AM
My state doesn't allow peoole to carry guns.  Now I'll never be a paranoid, gun nutter. :-(

I have to carry, because everyone around me carries.  I don't want the ones who carry to take my guns from me.  Therefore, I carry, so I have a chance.   :-\
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 19, 2015, 07:33:00 AM
If i got shot with a baby browning and found out about it, i'd be pretty pissed off!

Oh, you'd be pissed all right.  Bleeding out would ruin your clothes.   :D
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 19, 2015, 07:35:17 AM
If i got shot with a baby browning and found out about it, i'd be pretty pissed off!

You'd do more damage if you put it in a sock and beat the guy with it.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 19, 2015, 07:37:09 AM
I have to carry, because everyone around me carries.  I don't want the ones who carry to take my guns from me.  Therefore, I carry, so I have a chance.   :-\

You are not a gun owner. No gun owner would feel this way. You are a poor troll.

If I was in a room full of gun owners, I would feel I was I the safest place on earth.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 19, 2015, 07:39:29 AM
You are not a gun owner. No gun owner would feel this way. You are a poor troll.

If I was in a room full of gun owners, I would feel I was I the safest place on earth.

Not a gun owner?  Please, I've got enough guns to arm my entire neighborhood, and enough ammo to last a lifetime.  Pfffffft!   ::)
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 19, 2015, 08:01:13 AM
Not a gun owner?  Please, I've got enough guns to arm my entire neighborhood, and enough ammo to last a lifetime.  Pfffffft!   ::)

Post a pic of just one.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 19, 2015, 08:04:44 AM
Post a pic of just one.

I already did.  My Browning.   :-\
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _bruce_ on September 19, 2015, 08:08:56 AM
It's partially justified and partially just the John Moses Browning bigotry of gun owners. The 1911 is big, relatively heavy "single stack" (read: holds less ammo) that shoots a big bullet. It's quintessentially American: overweight, made of solid steel, with a small number of haymakers.

That said, the shootability of the platform is great. The barrel axis (how low the barrel sits in relation to your wrist) is very low and that makes for much more controllable recoil. Only the Glock comes close these days.

It's not a beginner's gun, as there are a lot of controls on it that beginners can forget. I shot a comp with mine and forgot to disengage the manual safety out of the holster. Cost me more than a second. I wasn't gonna win anyway, but that was embarrassing.

Interesting, the 1911 popped up in many magazines I used to read.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: OB1 on September 19, 2015, 08:14:43 AM
(http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/2/2f/Diegejagten_p88.jpg/800px-Diegejagten_p88.jpg)
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 19, 2015, 08:28:50 AM
I already did.  My Browning.   :-\

OK. But your comments still baffle me. Especially the comment about the fact that you carry because everybody else does and how they will somehow take your guns away.

The more people that carry legally, the safer you are.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 19, 2015, 08:38:34 AM
OK. But your comments still baffle me. Especially the comment about the fact that you carry because everybody else does and how they will somehow take your guns away.

The more people that carry legally, the safer you are.

I never said anything about legal carriers.  Rest assured, my Browning keeps me safe.   8)
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: pellius on September 19, 2015, 08:52:31 AM
Disagree.  The right of property ownership does not extend so far as to allow civil legislation to override the BoR.  To uphold a civil suit of trespass because someone had a gun is to uphold a law that infringes the right to bear arms.

If you come into my house, or want to work in my place of business, I can tell you how I want you to dress, words I want and don't want you to use, what kind of haircut you have, what you can bring or not bring....

Ever see a sign on some restaurants that say, "No shirt not service"?
Or those fancy restaurants that require a coat and tie?

UFC requires that their fighters wear Reebok gear and only Reebok gear.

All perfectly legal.

You don't seem to understand what the Constitution and the Bill of Rights applies to.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 19, 2015, 09:01:26 AM
I never said anything about legal carriers.  Rest assured, my Browning keeps me safe.   8)

If I was surrounded by goblins all day, that little poodle-shooter wouldn't do much for my safety-meter.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: HTexan on September 19, 2015, 09:05:08 AM
Clear infringement of the right to bear arms.  His condition of invitation ought to be invalid, no?
If it is in company policy, you can get fired.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 19, 2015, 09:06:12 AM
If it is in company policy, you can will get fired.

Fixed.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 19, 2015, 09:09:32 AM
If I was surrounded by goblins all day, that little poodle-shooter wouldn't do much for my safety-meter.

That's just my backup piece.  I keep it in my butt crack.  My regular carry piece is a 41.   :)
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 19, 2015, 09:17:47 AM
That's just my backup piece.  I keep it in my butt crack.  My regular carry piece is a 41.   :)

WTF is a 41?
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 19, 2015, 10:01:50 AM
WTF is a 41?

It's the caliber.   ???
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 19, 2015, 11:36:43 AM
It's the caliber.   ???

Ah yes, the venerable .41 Mag. Not many people carry around that blunderbuss any more since ammo is virtually non-existent. You must be quite the handgun aficionado.

 ::)

And that pic of the .25 you posted seems to be all over the Internet, so I am back to calling bullshit on you being a gun owner.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: BB on September 19, 2015, 12:00:23 PM
Ah yes, the venerable .41 Mag. Not many people carry around that blunderbuss any more since ammo is virtually non-existent.

 ::)


(http://www.richmond-dailynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Elmer-web.jpg).

Elmer Keith weeps at this statement :(.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: HTexan on September 19, 2015, 12:48:02 PM
Ah yes, the venerable .41 Mag. Not many people carry around that blunderbuss any more since ammo is virtually non-existent. You must be quite the handgun aficionado.

 ::)

And that pic of the .25 you posted seems to be all over the Internet, so I am back to calling bullshit on you being a gun owner.
9mm is where it is at. Cheap, effective, and plentiful.  ;)
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 19, 2015, 12:51:20 PM
9mm is where it is at. Cheap, effective, and plentiful.  ;)

Agreed. And modern 9mm is every bit as effective as .40. Says the guy that still carrying a sub-compact .357 Sig.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 19, 2015, 01:04:50 PM
Ah yes, the venerable .41 Mag. Not many people carry around that blunderbuss any more since ammo is virtually non-existent. You must be quite the handgun aficionado.

 ::)

And that pic of the .25 you posted seems to be all over the Internet, so I am back to calling bullshit on you being a gun owner.

You're correct, I am quite the handgun aficionado.  Not really sure why you call bullshit on me.  I already told you.  I've got enough guns to arm my entire neighborhood.   ???
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 19, 2015, 01:11:25 PM
You're correct, I am quite the handgun aficionado.  Not really sure why you call bullshit on me.  I already told you.  I've got enough guns to arm my entire neighborhood.   ???

Post a pic of one of your guns that wasn't obviously lifted off the internet.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: chaos on September 19, 2015, 01:12:46 PM
It's partially justified and partially just the John Moses Browning bigotry of gun owners. The 1911 is big, relatively heavy "single stack" (read: holds less ammo) that shoots a big bullet. It's quintessentially American: overweight, made of solid steel, with a small number of haymakers.

That said, the shootability of the platform is great. The barrel axis (how low the barrel sits in relation to your wrist) is very low and that makes for much more controllable recoil. Only the Glock comes close these days.

It's not a beginner's gun, as there are a lot of controls on it that beginners can forget. I shot a comp with mine and forgot to disengage the manual safety out of the holster. Cost me more than a second. I wasn't gonna win anyway, but that was embarrassing.
I have big hands. 8)
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 19, 2015, 02:01:20 PM
Post a pic of one of your guns that wasn't obviously lifted off the internet.

I can't right now, I'm at work right now.  Sorry!   :)
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Tapeworm on September 20, 2015, 07:06:18 AM
If you come into my house, or want to work in my place of business, I can tell you how I want you to dress, words I want and don't want you to use, what kind of haircut you have, what you can bring or not bring....

Ever see a sign on some restaurants that say, "No shirt not service"?
Or those fancy restaurants that require a coat and tie?

UFC requires that their fighters wear Reebok gear and only Reebok gear.

All perfectly legal.

You don't seem to understand what the Constitution and the Bill of Rights applies to.

I'm constantly amazed by how casually people give up their rights.  Offer up any nonsense reason along with a paycheck and a hamburger and they'll sign them away without a second thought.  What's allowed in your pockets.  Give us your urine when we tell you to.  Who'd take a job where they stipulate the clothes you are to wear ffs?  The streets may be paved with gold but are littered with discarded dignity.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 20, 2015, 07:08:22 AM
I'm constantly amazed by how casually people give up their rights.  Offer up any nonsense reason along with a paycheck and a hamburger and they'll sign them away without a second thought.  What's allowed in your pockets.  Give us your urine when we tell you to.  Who'd take a job where they stipulate the clothes you are to wear ffs?  The streets may be paved with gold but are littered with discarded dignity.

I don't really pay attention to those signs. I always carry in the theaters, even though they have a "strict" ( ::)) no weapons policy. My family will be protected.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Tapeworm on September 20, 2015, 07:19:19 AM
I don't really pay attention to those signs. I always carry in the theaters, even though they have a "strict" ( ::)) no weapons policy. My family will be protected.

SEIZE HIM!!!




Whew.  Fuck I'm workin' hard in this thread.  Didn't used to take so much outta me.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 20, 2015, 07:24:46 AM
9mm is where it is at. Cheap, effective, and plentiful.  ;)

Agreed, 9mm is great.  Very accurate and affordable.   :)
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: OB1 on September 20, 2015, 07:37:07 AM
Agreed, 9mm is great.  Very accurate and affordable.   :)

x2
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 20, 2015, 07:42:34 AM
Agreed, 9mm is great.  Very accurate and affordable.   :)

I don't think it's any more inherently accurate than other handgun rounds. Cheap, plentiful and in a dazzling array of bullet selections as well as bespoke pressures is what truly sets it apart. Modern self-defense bullets are amazing things.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 20, 2015, 07:53:50 AM
I don't think it's any more inherently accurate than other handgun rounds. Cheap, plentiful and in a dazzling array of bullet selections as well as bespoke pressures is what truly sets it apart. Modern self-defense bullets are amazing things.

My 9mm is much more accurate than my 6.35mm.  And yes, modern defense bullets are quite astounding.   :D
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: SF1900 on September 20, 2015, 07:59:14 AM
WTF is a 41?

this is a 41, AJ :D :D

(http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/41-mag1.jpg)

Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 20, 2015, 08:00:42 AM
this is a 41, AJ :D :D

(http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/41-mag1.jpg)



That's a good looking 41. :D
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Tapeworm on September 20, 2015, 08:06:47 AM
Worst looking freedom cannon I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 20, 2015, 08:08:20 AM
this is a 41, AJ :D :D

(http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/41-mag1.jpg)



A fine concealed weapon   ::)

Weighs a ton, is the size of a VW Microbus and has a whopping 6-shot capacity, each with the approximate stopping power of a 10mm.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: OB1 on September 20, 2015, 08:15:30 AM
this is a 41, AJ :D :D

(http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/41-mag1.jpg)




If you want to actually hit something go Walther P88 (compact).
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: TuHolmes on September 20, 2015, 08:18:25 AM
Personally, I'm a big fan of the Sig P229 .357
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 20, 2015, 08:21:37 AM
Personally, I'm a big fan of the Sig P229 .357

I have one and was a big fan until I had my "big Glock epiphany". Now I primarily carry a Glock 33 in .357 Sig. The G33 is like 1/2 the weight for almost the same capacity.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: chaos on September 20, 2015, 08:25:05 AM
A fine concealed weapon   ::)

Weighs a ton, is the size of a VW Microbus and has a whopping 6-shot capacity, each with the approximate stopping power of a 10mm.
*Takes S&W .357 from waistband and sets it on counter* :-[
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 20, 2015, 08:29:52 AM
*Takes S&W .357 from waistband and sets it on counter* :-[

The 5-shot Model 60 is much more concealable than that beast. But who the fuck CCW's a wheelgun any more?
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: TuHolmes on September 20, 2015, 08:30:40 AM
I have one and was a big fan until I had my "big Glock epiphany". Now I primarily carry a Glock 33 in .357 Sig. The G33 is like 1/2 the weight for almost the same capacity.

A quick lookup of it makes it kind of interesting.

I shall test shoot one ASAP.

*Takes S&W .357 from waistband and sets it on counter* :-[

Admit it, you're not really worried about it being very "concealed".
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 20, 2015, 08:32:12 AM
The 5-shot Model 60 is much more concealable than that beast. But who the fuck CCW's a wheelgun any more?

I do, all the time.  Sometimes 2 at the same time.   ???
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 20, 2015, 08:33:17 AM
I do, all the time.  Sometimes 2 at the same time.   ???

/\/igga please.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: chaos on September 20, 2015, 08:33:43 AM
The 5-shot Model 60 is much more concealable than that beast. But who the fuck CCW's a wheelgun any more?
I like to change it up now and then. 8)
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: TuHolmes on September 20, 2015, 08:34:30 AM
The 5-shot Model 60 is much more concealable than that beast. But who the fuck CCW's a wheelgun any more?

Eh... if you can't shut it down in 2 shots, you're just missing a lot anyway.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 20, 2015, 08:37:13 AM
Eh... if you can't shut it down in 2 shots, you're just missing a lot anyway.

Tis a bit more stressful if the targets are shooting back. The best average about 1:4. I prefer reserve and a spare mag or two. Good luck with your "2 and out" there, Icewater.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: TuHolmes on September 20, 2015, 08:40:09 AM
Tis a bit more stressful if the targets are shooting back. The best average about 1:4. I prefer reserve and a spare mag or two. Good luck with your "2 and out" there, Icewater.

I keep going to drills and hopefully still won't have to find out.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 20, 2015, 08:44:50 AM
I like to change it up now and then. 8)

Not me, man. I train with what I shoot and shoot with what I train. Takes a while to get reactive muscle memory with anything. I don't want to fuck around with that. It took me a lot of time to make the decision to move away from Sigs to Glocks.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 20, 2015, 08:45:51 AM
I love the P226. That would be my choice if i was in the U.S

Aesthetically beautiful gun. I have a couple.

Heavy as fuck compared to the same package in Glock.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 20, 2015, 09:01:31 AM
Yeah i love the look. I've heard many people switch to Glocks now as their preferred choice. The Glock 17 started to get used widely in the UK a few years ago, to replace the Browning.

I feel like a traitor, because the Sig factory is about 45 minutes away in Epping, NH. They have a fantastic training facility there and always have LEO and SOCOM military cycling through. It's the home of the infamous "killhouse" where I took a bullet in training. Grumble. The guy the discharged the round didn't feel too bad about it either.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 20, 2015, 09:06:45 AM
/\/igga please.

 ???
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Tapeworm on September 20, 2015, 09:41:15 AM
haha, i heard a story from a guy who took a 9mm round from a sig over here. He got shot in the bicep by accident. The guy that did it went "sorry mate, did i just shoot you?" and he just looked at his arm and said "um, yeah i think so". most uneventful shooting ever.

Packs a whollop.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: OB1 on September 20, 2015, 09:46:50 AM
Yeah i love the look. I've heard many people switch to Glocks now as their preferred choice. The Glock 17 started to get used widely in the UK a few years ago, to replace the Browning.

That's because the Glock is cheaper than comparable products and also outdated design-wise.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Tapeworm on September 20, 2015, 09:54:59 AM
Wait.  Do you mean the Glock is outdated?
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: OB1 on September 20, 2015, 10:01:39 AM
Wait.  Do you mean the Glock is outdated?

No. I mean get a Walther P99.  ;D
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: chaos on September 20, 2015, 10:45:23 AM
Not me, man. I train with what I shoot and shoot with what I train. Takes a while to get reactive muscle memory with anything. I don't want to fuck around with that. It took me a lot of time to make the decision to move away from Sigs to Glocks.
Send me a model and price list on your liquidation of Sigs. :D
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: TuHolmes on September 20, 2015, 10:46:08 AM
Send me a model and price list on your liquidation of Sigs. :D


I too would like to see this list.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: chaos on September 20, 2015, 10:50:25 AM
I keep going to drills and hopefully still won't have to find out.
Next time you go let me know, would love to hang out and drill with you.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Alucard on September 20, 2015, 10:56:42 AM
I have one and was a big fan until I had my "big Glock epiphany". Now I primarily carry a Glock 33 in .357 Sig. The G33 is like 1/2 the weight for almost the same capacity.
Hey Aj, how does the .357sig works? Is the G33 reliable? How do you compare the caliber with a classic 9mm, .40 and .45? Always intrigued me...
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: TuHolmes on September 20, 2015, 10:57:32 AM
Next time you go let me know, would love to hang out and drill with you.

 :o

 ;D
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: T-REX007 on September 20, 2015, 11:41:31 AM
Ultimate handgun - ( not pistol) , but revolver was the Colt Python- the "Rolls Royce'' of wheel guns, .357 MAGNUM,
The Anaconda was a great .44 mag, right up there with the model 29 S/W and Ruger Red hawk , the Black hawk is a great single action .44
Something about a nice revolver instead of a pistol ....
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: OB1 on September 20, 2015, 11:46:42 AM
Something about a nice revolver instead of a pistol ....

I like pistols more somehow.
Especially the Walther PPK.
 
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 20, 2015, 12:00:17 PM
Ultimate handgun - ( not pistol) , but revolver was the Colt Python- the "Rolls Royce'' of wheel guns, .357 MAGNUM,
The Anaconda was a great .44 mag, right up there with the model 29 S/W and Ruger Red hawk , the Black hawk is a great single action .44
Something about a nice revolver instead of a pistol ....

Yes!  8)
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 20, 2015, 01:21:58 PM
Send me a model and price list on your liquidation of Sigs. :D

I have a lot of problems selling guns. I still love the look and of Sigs. I have a couple of 226, a 226 and a 220ST.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 20, 2015, 01:24:33 PM
Hey Aj, how does the .357sig works? Is the G33 reliable? How do you compare the caliber with a classic 9mm, .40 and .45? Always intrigued me...

It's a 9mm bullet on top of a .40 S&W charge and necked case. Because the case is necked, it's a more reliable feed up the ramp. It's quite a bit more power than a 9mm and shoots flatter and speedier than both the .40 and .45.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: HTexan on September 20, 2015, 01:24:50 PM
Ultimate handgun - ( not pistol) , but revolver was the Colt Python- the "Rolls Royce'' of wheel guns, .357 MAGNUM,
The Anaconda was a great .44 mag, right up there with the model 29 S/W and Ruger Red hawk , the Black hawk is a great single action .44
Something about a nice revolver instead of a pistol ....
SRH Alaskan > colt python
(http://www.ruger.com/products/superRedhawkAlaskan/images/5303.jpg)
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: chaos on September 20, 2015, 01:25:55 PM
I have a lot of problems selling guns.
No shit. ::)


LOL ;D

TBH, I don't have a 9mm, looking for a good one that fits me.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 20, 2015, 01:27:21 PM
Ultimate handgun - ( not pistol) , but revolver was the Colt Python- the "Rolls Royce'' of wheel guns, .357 MAGNUM,
The Anaconda was a great .44 mag, right up there with the model 29 S/W and Ruger Red hawk , the Black hawk is a great single action .44
Something about a nice revolver instead of a pistol ....

I have a S&W M29 Classic and a SRH in .454 Casull. I wish I could find a decent Python for a reasonable price. They are all outrageous now.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 20, 2015, 01:29:27 PM
No shit. ::)


LOL ;D

TBH, I don't have a 9mm, looking for a good one that fits me.

Try the Glock 19 with +2 mags. The extra mag length gives big-hands guys something to hold on to. The G19 is concealable, controllable and with +2 mags has a 17+1 round capacity.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: HTexan on September 20, 2015, 01:43:25 PM
No shit. ::)


LOL ;D

TBH, I don't have a 9mm, looking for a good one that fits me.
yup, especially with your info tied to the gun. Best thing to do is to sell to a gun store, but they will fuck you.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Alucard on September 20, 2015, 01:49:55 PM
I have a S&W M29 Classic and a SRH in .454 Casull. I wish I could find a decent Python for a reasonable price. They are all outrageous now.
I have a wonderful Anaconda 6' in .44 and like you a Ruger SRH 7.5' in .454, a monster to shoot... Both beautiful pieces, Rugers are my overall favorites regarding revolvers...
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: chaos on September 20, 2015, 01:59:49 PM
Try the Glock 19 with +2 mags. The extra mag length gives big-hands guys something to hold on to. The G19 is concealable, controllable and with +2 mags has a 17+1 round capacity.
Not in California...... ::)
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 20, 2015, 02:03:01 PM
Not in California...... ::)

Ahhh, right. I was referring to the United States of America.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: chaos on September 20, 2015, 02:06:57 PM
Ahhh, right. I was referring to the United States of America.
10 rnds max. Good enough for a 1911.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 20, 2015, 02:09:02 PM
10 rnds max. Good enough for a 1911.

Nighthawk. Costs as much as a slightly used car, but it is a sweet 1911.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Ron Jeremy on September 20, 2015, 02:17:08 PM
Got a sweet Kimber Ultra Carry II in .45 acp. (3 inch barrel).
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 20, 2015, 02:18:45 PM
I have a wonderful Anaconda 6' in .44 and like you a Ruger SRH 7.5' in .454, a monster to shoot... Both beautiful pieces, Rugers are my overall favorites regarding revolvers...

Rugers are great guns.  I've got a couple.   :o
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: spiro on September 20, 2015, 02:19:12 PM
Try the Glock 19 with +2 mags. The extra mag length gives big-hands guys something to hold on to. The G19 is concealable, controllable and with +2 mags has a 17+1 round capacity.

Thats what I have ultimate combat pistol.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 20, 2015, 03:00:32 PM
Thats what I have ultimate combat pistol.

I have a few of them sprinkled around the house.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 20, 2015, 06:01:10 PM
SRH Alaskan > colt python
(http://www.ruger.com/products/superRedhawkAlaskan/images/5303.jpg)

That's a great little snubnose right there.  Bet it packs a punch on both ends.   ;D
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: calfzilla on September 20, 2015, 06:02:47 PM
Careful guys, one of our resident getbig liberal twinks might jump in this thread and try to gun grab.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: OB1 on September 20, 2015, 06:11:49 PM
(http://www.waffensammlung.ch/images/content/thw/_MG_5426bearb.jpg)
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 20, 2015, 06:18:53 PM
(http://www.waffensammlung.ch/images/content/thw/_MG_5426bearb.jpg)

That's too pretty to shoot.  Definitely want one though.  :'(
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: OB1 on September 20, 2015, 06:23:17 PM
That's too pretty to shoot.  Definitely want one though.  :'(

Yeah.
I couldn't shoot it either.
~ $1350  :-\
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Irongrip400 on September 20, 2015, 06:34:42 PM
I've read that many times - why the fame... combination of ammo cost, reliability, firing power or did the Weiders promote it?

Looks like a gangster handgun and was used by us Yanks in them there world wars we whooped up on yall in.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 20, 2015, 08:44:12 PM
Yeah.
I couldn't shoot it either.
~ $1350  :-\

Are you saying you bought this?
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: SF1900 on September 20, 2015, 09:11:22 PM
I shot this before. Its designed for hunting (I didnt hunt). But felt like a true american.  :) :)

(http://www.gunsumerreports.com/Smith_Wesson_44_Magnum_Hunter/Smith_Wesson_44_Magnum_Hunter_062.JPG)

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/2Hu1gK1caQU/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: OB1 on September 20, 2015, 09:18:45 PM
Are you saying you bought this?

No.
But I would if I had the money right now.
Just looked it up.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 21, 2015, 03:23:11 AM
No.
But I would if I had the money right now.
Just looked it up.

You would really buy that butt-ugly, weak-ass, pimp gun? Why?
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 21, 2015, 05:24:28 AM
You would really buy that butt-ugly, weak-ass, pimp gun? Why?

Because of the beauty and value.   :)
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: OB1 on September 21, 2015, 07:30:23 AM
Because of the beauty and value.   :)

Exactly.
 :)
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 21, 2015, 07:35:58 AM
I shot this before. Its designed for hunting (I didnt hunt). But felt like a true american.  :) :)

(http://www.gunsumerreports.com/Smith_Wesson_44_Magnum_Hunter/Smith_Wesson_44_Magnum_Hunter_062.JPG)

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/2Hu1gK1caQU/maxresdefault.jpg)

That is quite the hand cannon.  What did you shoot with it?
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: SF1900 on September 21, 2015, 09:00:56 AM
That is quite the hand cannon.  What did you shoot with it?

Just target practice.

My cousin uses it for deer hunting.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: HTexan on September 21, 2015, 09:26:21 AM
Just target practice.

My cousin uses it for deer hunting.
Would be hard to cc that beast.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: SF1900 on September 21, 2015, 09:28:23 AM
Would be hard to cc that beast.

That's what I say about my "guns" when trying to buy a shirt that fits appropriately.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: HTexan on September 21, 2015, 11:18:22 AM
That's what I say about my "guns" when trying to buy a shirt that fits appropriately.
I have the same problem with my "gun" need to find pants that work.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 21, 2015, 11:29:18 AM
Would be hard to cc that beast.


Just stick it down your pants.   ???
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Voice of Doom on September 21, 2015, 11:52:04 AM
The 5-shot Model 60 is much more concealable than that beast. But who the fuck CCW's a wheelgun any more?
I carried this for a year.  Finally traded it even for a M&P Shield.  Lighter with more capacity.  It was the better trade but sometimes I really miss my snubbie.  :(
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 21, 2015, 12:08:45 PM
You are not a gun owner. No gun owner would feel this way. You are a poor troll.

If I was in a room full of gun owners, I would feel I was I the safest place on earth.

Not a gun owner?  Please, I've got enough guns to arm my entire neighborhood, and enough ammo to last a lifetime.  Pfffffft!   ::)

Post a pic of just one.

Post a pic of one of your guns that wasn't obviously lifted off the internet.

I can't right now, I'm at work right now.  Sorry!   :)

Here you go chief, sorry for the delay.  I was at work.   8)

(http://s18.postimg.org/m5wrj4j61/WP_20150921_001.jpg)
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 21, 2015, 12:10:48 PM
I carried this for a year.  Finally traded it even for a M&P Shield.  Lighter with more capacity.  It was the better trade but sometimes I really miss my snubbie.  :(

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=580730.0;attach=651152;image)


Great little snubby right there.  I got a couple of those.     :D
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Alucard on September 21, 2015, 12:11:08 PM
Rugers are great guns.  I've got a couple.   :o
Can't beat Rugers in terms of reliability and solidity, in my experience they are overall the best built revolvers... Colts and Smiths are phenomenal too, they are all up there...
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 21, 2015, 12:14:19 PM
Here you go chief, sorry for the delay.  I was at work.   8)

(http://s18.postimg.org/m5wrj4j61/WP_20150921_001.jpg)

Allow me to show you how it's done  ;)
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 21, 2015, 12:37:25 PM
Allow me to show you how it's done  ;)

Cool looking rifle, what do you shoot with it?   :o
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 21, 2015, 12:39:19 PM
Cool looking rifle, what do you shoot with it?   :o

Paper  ;D
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 21, 2015, 12:52:52 PM
Paper  ;D

Sweet!  Good to know that if any paper ever gives you trouble, you'll be prepared.   :D
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: HTexan on September 21, 2015, 01:20:30 PM
Allow me to show you how it's done  ;)
Fake. Time is off by 4 minutes.  ;D :P
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: OB1 on September 21, 2015, 04:42:38 PM
Sweet!  Good to know that if any paper ever gives you trouble, you'll be prepared.   :D

 :D :D
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 21, 2015, 04:43:03 PM
I like pistols more somehow.
Especially the Walther PPK.
 

(http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Jamesbondconnerywalther.jpg)
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: OB1 on September 21, 2015, 04:55:29 PM
(http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Jamesbondconnerywalther.jpg)

 ;D
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 21, 2015, 05:01:14 PM
Allow me to show you how it's done  ;)

Yes, note the username and date. Very important to be taken seriously...

(http://i.imgur.com/htCKdWj.jpg)
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: OB1 on September 21, 2015, 05:02:43 PM
Yes, note the username and date. Very important to be taken seriously...

(http://i.imgur.com/htCKdWj.jpg)

Now this absolutely convinces me.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: Twaddle on September 21, 2015, 05:11:37 PM
Yes, note the username and date. Very important to be taken seriously...

(http://i.imgur.com/htCKdWj.jpg)

My apologies, I didn't realize there was picture posting etiquette.  Allow me to try again.   ;D

(http://s21.postimg.org/c9mtcre3r/WP_20150921_005.jpg)
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: _aj_ on September 21, 2015, 05:36:42 PM
My apologies, I didn't realize there was picture posting etiquette.  Allow me to try again.   ;D

(http://s21.postimg.org/c9mtcre3r/WP_20150921_005.jpg)

Haha! Well played!
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: OB1 on September 21, 2015, 05:42:39 PM
My apologies, I didn't realize there was picture posting etiquette.  Allow me to try again.   ;D

(http://s21.postimg.org/c9mtcre3r/WP_20150921_005.jpg)

 :D :D

nice one.
Title: Re: Americans and their guns
Post by: chaos on September 21, 2015, 08:28:37 PM
Ha!