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I am just baffled.
Socialism give you stalin hitler mao.....everyone starving and murdered....so why do we want that?
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I am just baffled.
Socialism give you stalin hitler mao.....everyone starving and murdered....so why do we want that?
Hitler hated socialism and communism and worked to destroy these ideologies. Nazism, confused as it was, was based on race, and fundamentally different from class focused socialism.
http://europeanhistory.about.com/od/germanyandprussia/fl/Was-Adolf-Hitler-a-Socialist-Debunking-a-Historical-Myth.htm
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Hitler was a fascist
Why do people vote democrat? They promise the most free shit and don't expect anyone to take responsibility for their actions
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Hitler was a fascist
Why do people vote democrat? They promise the most free shit and don't expect anyone to take responsibility for their actions
anyone making under $25k (Or any couples making under $50) will pay ZERO TAXES under a Trump presidency.
That's socialism, isn't it? They get to use the roads, the schools, the nat'l defense - they get all of that - without paying one red cent for it.
Can we agree any tax system that is NOT the flat tax system, is socialism?
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anyone making under $25k (Or any couples making under $50) will pay ZERO TAXES under a Trump presidency.
That's socialism, isn't it? They get to use the roads, the schools, the nat'l defense - they get all of that - without paying one red cent for it.
Can we agree any tax system that is NOT the flat tax system, is socialism?
The fucking progressive tax system in the US is a fucking joke. Oh for the says before the 19th amendment
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The fucking progressive tax system in the US is a fucking joke. Oh for the says before the 19th amendment
both dems and repubs subscribe to socialism. They just choose different percentages. Any repub that says only dems use socialism is just ignorant of the facts. Only the true flat-income-tax politicians (or those who want to make it purely a sales tax system) advocate ending socialism.
every time a repub screams "Obama is a socialist", dems should return with "Yes, trump is slightly less of one"
although with his "nobody under $25k pays a thing" postion may be worse than obama. $50k, married, no taxes... that's epic socialism
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Hitler hated socialism and communism and worked to destroy these ideologies. Nazism, confused as it was, was based on race, and fundamentally different from class focused socialism.
http://europeanhistory.about.com/od/germanyandprussia/fl/Was-Adolf-Hitler-a-Socialist-Debunking-a-Historical-Myth.htm
no hitler was a national socialist aka NA ZI
socialism is communism is facism
all big government trampling right of indivudals
youtube yaron brook his vids explain it well
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Their brand of socialism was geared toward the state/culture with big business thrown in. But it is not right wingism as the douchbags on the left would have you believe...loving America and the Constitution is not fascism. It used to be called patriotism. It is you on the left who are the traitorous dogs.
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I am just baffled.
Socialism give you stalin hitler mao.....everyone starving and murdered....so why do we want that?
Might be the most incorrect post of the day... Hold on... Let me check coach's recent posts...
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Might be the most incorrect post of the day... Hold on... Let me check coach's recent posts...
So you can't answer it either.
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So you can't answer it either.
As a Canadian in a representative democracy I do not vote for a prime minister (unless I happen to live in their riding). I vote for a representative who's part of a party. My decision is predominantly based on who the representative is.
I hate most people but I am smart enough to know that this is not a good way to live... So I tend to lean towards the most compassionate candidate/party.
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As a Canadian in a representative democracy I do not vote for a prime minister (unless I happen to live in their riding). I vote for a representative who's part of a party. My decision is predominantly based on who the representative is.
I hate most people but I am smart enough to know that this is not a good way to live... So I tend to lean towards the most compassionate candidate/party.
Yeah...compassion is killing your country and the west...
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Can't lie. This maybe the best response to a debate ever. They both suck.
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Can't lie. This maybe the best response to a debate ever. They both suck.
they're both socialist. Dems let poor people keep more money. Repubs let rich people keep more money.
Trumpis hooking the poor up in a big way. Cause he's big into socialism.
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Why do people vote democrat? Because they can read.
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16 replies and not one answer by a lib that can say why. Woo mentions compassion but seeing what's going on its bullshit and tells me that libs vote with their emotion or "feelings".
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16 replies and not one answer by a lib that can say why. Woo mentions compassion but seeing what's going on its bullshit and tells me that libs vote with their emotion or "feelings".
Intellectual compassion is not wholly emotional.
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Intellectual compassion is not wholly emotional.
Unfortunately that doesn't work with terrorism. Just as one example.
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Unfortunately that doesn't work with terrorism. Just as one example.
With current attackers you're correct. But compassion may help prevent future attacks. Don't get me wrong I'm all for killing people who threaten my country but I'd suggest that there's a slippery slope that the military "yellow-cake" industrial complex tries to manipulate us to go down...
There are no right answers but everyone needs to take a step back to the centre for us to be able to have a discussion. Otherwise it's just endless rhetoric.
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16 replies and not one answer by a lib that can say why. Woo mentions compassion but seeing what's going on its bullshit and tells me that libs vote with their emotion or "feelings".
you want to really know why???...because there are people who believe that society should progress and move forward...not stay stuck in rigid thinking.....old ideas must give way to new ideas if you want to survive as a nation and as human beings....you guys like to label it "Liberalism"...but its simply progressive thinking......the conservatives want to keep the status quo which is why they deny science and say the earth is 6000 years old (just like ISIS)....they also don't believe in raising wages and believe business is always right.....their answer to all international disagreements is WAR......
Again name an idea they have come up with since Obama has been in office???????????????????????????????.........their whole political agenda is saying no and not doing anything to make our country progress as a nation
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I am just baffled.
Socialism give you stalin hitler mao.....everyone starving and murdered....so why do we want that?
I am baffled that anyone would actually connect the 2 with cause.
I am also baffled that someone would believe voting democrat means you are a socialist, communist, or a fascist.
But then again there are birthers, moonbots and truthers int he world. So i shouldn't all that baffled.
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Hitler hated socialism and communism and worked to destroy these ideologies. Nazism, confused as it was, was based on race, and fundamentally different from class focused socialism.
http://europeanhistory.about.com/od/germanyandprussia/fl/Was-Adolf-Hitler-a-Socialist-Debunking-a-Historical-Myth.htm
you know what i have spoken to a lot of ex WW2 German Vets and none spoke good of Hitler and his ideas. They only spoke to me of suffering in Stalingrad. One spoke of eating human flesh to survive when there was no more Horses to kill.
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you want to really know why???...because there are people who believe that society should progress and move forward...not stay stuck in rigid thinking.....old ideas must give way to new ideas if you want to survive as a nation and as human beings....you guys like to label it "Liberalism"...but its simply progressive thinking......the conservatives want to keep the status quo which is why they deny science and say the earth is 6000 years old (just like ISIS)....they also don't believe in raising wages and believe business is always right.....their answer to all international disagreements is WAR......
Again name an idea they have come up with since Obama has been in office???????????????????????????????.........their whole political agenda is saying no and not doing anything to make our country progress as a nation
Yeah...keeping more of my own money, keeping idiot government regulation down, keeping the gov out of my life is horribly regressive..yup.
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Yeah...keeping more of my own money, keeping idiot government regulation down, keeping the gov out of my life is horribly regressive..yup.
in what way does being a progressive thinker intrude on your life???.......do you truly believe that you pay less tax when Republicans are in power???...even if republicans cut taxes, its an illusion because that money has to be made up somehow and we usually end up BORROWING it which makes it worse due to having to pay interest....Republicans often leave office with BIG DEFICITS which have to be paid for by INCREASED TAXES.....its a very big fallacy that we can have the kind of government we want and are used to with very very low taxes....its not happening..
As for regulations, Republicans believe in leaving people to their own devices which simply does not work..people will take advantage of all opportunities to do the wrong thing in order to enrich themselves...thats human nature..(see deregulation of banks).....regulation SAVES LIVES AND PROTECT THE PUBLIC..yes it costs more but saving lives usually does....
At least when the Dems want to spend they are honest about it and raise taxes to pay for it.........I would much rather tax and spend than borrow and spend
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in what way does being a progressive thinker intrude on your life???.......do you truly believe that you pay less tax when Republicans are in power???...even if republicans cut taxes, its an illusion because that money has to be made up somehow and we usually end up BORROWING it which makes it worse due to having to pay interest....Republicans often leave office with BIG DEFICITS which have to be paid for by INCREASED TAXES.....its a very big fallacy that we can have the kind of government we want and are used to with very very low taxes....its not happening..
As for regulations, Republicans believe in leaving people to their own devices which simply does not work..people will take advantage of all opportunities to do the wrong thing in order to enrich themselves...thats human nature..(see deregulation of banks).....regulation SAVES LIVES AND PROTECT THE PUBLIC..yes it costs more but saving lives usually does....
At least when the Dems want to spend they are honest about it and raise taxes to pay for it.........I would much rather tax and spend than borrow and spend
HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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you know what i have spoken to a lot of ex WW2 German Vets and none spoke good of Hitler and his ideas. They only spoke to me of suffering in Stalingrad. One spoke of eating human flesh to survive when there was no more Horses to kill.
if liberals had their way, we'd all be eating horse meat and sending the steak to syria.
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I am baffled that anyone would actually connect the 2 with cause.
I am also baffled that someone would believe voting democrat means you are a socialist, communist, or a fascist.
But then again there are birthers, moonbots and truthers int he world. So i shouldn't all that baffled.
Now you leave poor 240 alone.
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Now you leave poor 240 alone.
ooh, an unprovoked personal attack. from a moderator. nice.
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in what way does being a progressive thinker intrude on your life???.......do you truly believe that you pay less tax when Republicans are in power???...even if republicans cut taxes, its an illusion because that money has to be made up somehow and we usually end up BORROWING it which makes it worse due to having to pay interest....Republicans often leave office with BIG DEFICITS which have to be paid for by INCREASED TAXES.....its a very big fallacy that we can have the kind of government we want and are used to with very very low taxes....its not happening..
As for regulations, Republicans believe in leaving people to their own devices which simply does not work..people will take advantage of all opportunities to do the wrong thing in order to enrich themselves...thats human nature..(see deregulation of banks).....regulation SAVES LIVES AND PROTECT THE PUBLIC..yes it costs more but saving lives usually does....
At least when the Dems want to spend they are honest about it and raise taxes to pay for it.........I would much rather tax and spend than borrow and spend
You can't have my money. I earned it....if its not a function of the Federal governemnt as defined by the Constitution...or defined in the state constitution..then you can't have it. Programs need to be cut. I don't give a shit about green energy...housing for poor people, housing for immigrants...free medical for whoever. I'm sorry but Ive worked my ass off. I enlisted at 17...paid my own college...multiple combat tours and after 25 years in service.....will retire. Forced loans that banks knew were bad led to the housing bubble...forced affirmative action benefits nobody. The gov works nicely when its small. You don't need huge taxes when the Fed ain't doing much more then defense.
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ooh, an unprovoked personal attack. from a moderator. nice.
How is that a personal attack? Ozmo referenced people who believe Obama was born in Kenya and faked his birth certificate, people who believe we faked the moon landing, and people who believe the government conspired to attack us on 9/11, including shooting a missile into the Pentagon, faking plane crashes, etc. You believe all three of those conspiracies, so he was clearly referring to people like you.
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Their brand of socialism was geared toward the state/culture with big business thrown in. But it is not right wingism as the douchbags on the left would have you believe...loving America and the Constitution is not fascism. It used to be called patriotism. It is you on the left who are the traitorous dogs.
lol
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Their brand of socialism was geared toward the state/culture with big business thrown in. But it is not right wingism as the douchbags on the left would have you believe...loving America and the Constitution is not fascism. It used to be called patriotism. It is you on the left who are the traitorous dogs.
So my bro that served in the US Marines for 21 years is a democrat and a traitorous dog?
that doesnt compute
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How is that a personal attack?
i'm not even in this discussion and you want to draw me in with that. careful...
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i'm not even in this discussion and you want to draw me in with that. careful...
I am shivering in my boots. ::) He was clearly referring to the unique group of people, like you, who believe in those conspiracy theories.
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in what way does being a progressive thinker intrude on your life???.......do you truly believe that you pay less tax when Republicans are in power???...even if republicans cut taxes, its an illusion because that money has to be made up somehow and we usually end up BORROWING it which makes it worse due to having to pay interest....Republicans often leave office with BIG DEFICITS which have to be paid for by INCREASED TAXES.....its a very big fallacy that we can have the kind of government we want and are used to with very very low taxes....its not happening..
As for regulations, Republicans believe in leaving people to their own devices which simply does not work..people will take advantage of all opportunities to do the wrong thing in order to enrich themselves...thats human nature..(see deregulation of banks).....regulation SAVES LIVES AND PROTECT THE PUBLIC..yes it costs more but saving lives usually does....
At least when the Dems want to spend they are honest about it and raise taxes to pay for it.........I would much rather tax and spend than borrow and spend
oh christ
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You can't have my money. I earned it....if its not a function of the Federal governemnt as defined by the Constitution...or defined in the state constitution..then you can't have it. Programs need to be cut. I don't give a shit about green energy...housing for poor people, housing for immigrants...free medical for whoever. I'm sorry but Ive worked my ass off. I enlisted at 17...paid my own college...multiple combat tours and after 25 years in service.....will retire. Forced loans that banks knew were bad led to the housing bubble...forced affirmative action benefits nobody. The gov works nicely when its small. You don't need huge taxes when the Fed ain't doing much more then defense.
Dude..your money is going to pay off the interest on the debt accumulated by various presidents.....and when you say programs need to be cut, I agree but remember people like you who say programs should be wiped out are gonna need those programs in a few years....we all get old and need help
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Dude..your money is going to pay off the interest on the debt accumulated by various presidents.....and when you say programs need to be cut, I agree but remember people like you who say programs should be wiped out are gonna need those programs in a few years....we all get old and need help
Why is it that so many folks who are on the dole, want to cut the very programs that support them? I hear more garbage about Obamacare from people that qualify for the Oregon Health Plan than don't. The Oregon Health Plan was designed for folks who cannot afford medical insurance.
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You can't have my money. I earned it....if its not a function of the Federal governemnt as defined by the Constitution...or defined in the state constitution..then you can't have it. Programs need to be cut. I don't give a shit about green energy...housing for poor people, housing for immigrants...free medical for whoever. I'm sorry but Ive worked my ass off. I enlisted at 17...paid my own college...multiple combat tours and after 25 years in service.....will retire. Forced loans that banks knew were bad led to the housing bubble...forced affirmative action benefits nobody. The gov works nicely when its small. You don't need huge taxes when the Fed ain't doing much more then defense.
You worked your ass of and served your country, you deserve "free" healthcare. Those damn republicans would not even give the first responders help how do you think they feel about you?
Also its your money like you said and it should not be used to finance wars in the middle East or tax breaks for coorporations.
You will vote democrat it seems ;)
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You worked your ass of and served your country, you deserve "free" healthcare. Those damn republicans would not even give the first responders help how do you think they feel about you?
Also its your money like you said and it should not be used to finance wars in the middle East or tax breaks for coorporations.
You will vote democrat it seems ;)
Whether we deserve free health care or not is a stupid debate.
The point is that we could have reasonably low cost or free healthcare but our present system is fucked up and won't allow it. Hell we won't even vote in cheaper generic meds and actually have dumb ass people who argue against that. Our medical industry is a money making beast and they scored big with the ACA. The propaganda machine has got all the ignorant rednecks believing that free health care in Britain and Canada is composed of death panels and shitty doctors, believing stupid horror stories that aren't representative of those systems as a whole. I have a large group of relatives who are Canadian citizens. Health care is not perfect there but works fine.
But of course its so much easier to debate whether or not people should have free health care as a distraction for the raping we get every month.
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Whether we deserve free health care or not is a stupid debate.
The point is that we could have reasonably low cost or free healthcare but our present system is fucked up and won't allow it. Hell we won't even vote in cheaper generic meds and actually have dumb ass people who argue against that. Our medical industry is a money making beast and they scored big with the ACA. The propaganda machine has got all the ignorant rednecks believing that free health care in Britain and Canada is composed of death panels and shitty doctors, believing stupid horror stories that aren't representative of those systems as a whole. I have a large group of relatives who are Canadian citizens. Health care is not perfect there but works fine.
But of course its so much easier to debate whether or not people should have free health care as a distraction for the raping we get every month.
Boom.
Game set match.
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The ACA is here to stay and I agree any debate at this time is pointless....but the Repubs have wasted 7 years trying to repeal it instead of trying to contribute to it with better ideas.......Medicaid and social security didn't roll out too well either......those programs were perfected over time...same as Obamacare should be as well
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You can't have my money. I earned it....if its not a function of the Federal governemnt as defined by the Constitution...or defined in the state constitution..then you can't have it. Programs need to be cut. I don't give a shit about green energy...housing for poor people, housing for immigrants...free medical for whoever. I'm sorry but Ive worked my ass off. I enlisted at 17...paid my own college...multiple combat tours and after 25 years in service.....will retire. Forced loans that banks knew were bad led to the housing bubble...forced affirmative action benefits nobody. The gov works nicely when its small. You don't need huge taxes when the Fed ain't doing much more then defense.
-Better hope Republicans don't decide to cut military benefits to balance the budget. Hopefully, you didn't retire from the military with related disabilities or you'll get slammed twice as bad. How's that VA medical insurance working out?
Military Compensation Includes Cash Compensation and Substantial Retirement and Health Benefits
Of DoD’s $150 billion request for compensation in 2013, more than $90 billion would go to basic pay, food and housing allowances, bonuses, and various types of special pay. Another $16 billion would go to accrual payments that account for the future pensions of current service members who will retire from the military (generally after at least 20 years of service). In 2012, DoD paid 34 cents for each dollar of basic pay for active personnel and 24 cents for each dollar of basic pay for reserve personnel.
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/43574
Both my son and son-in-law are retired from military service. My son retired after 22 years. My son-in-law was medically boarded out because of injuries sustained during combat. He was a Forward Observer who was deployed 4 times to the middle east. My son is able to work. My son-in-law was awarded 100% disability.
I'm pretty sure you weren't thinking of cutting these programs/benefits. Where do you propose cuts in programs should occur? Which government services are not needed in your opinion? Are you of the mind as long as you get what you believe you're due, to heck with all those other poor suckers?
BTW, thank you for your service. It is really appreciated, at least in this household.
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Good point and well made.....and I appreciate his service as well...just not the idiotic statements that are not too well thought out
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Yeah...keeping more of my own money, Yeah if you are a coorporation
keeping idiot government regulation down, Keeping Wall Street regulation down while wanting to decide over a womans body and decide who you can marry
keeping the gov out of my life is horribly regressive..yup. The GOP certainly wants to keep out of the first responders lives, they dont even want them staying alive
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Whether we deserve free health care or not is a stupid debate.
Its never going to be "free" but i dont think its a stupid debate. It can mean the difference between life or death and quality of life.
The point is that we could have reasonably low cost or free healthcare but our present system is fucked up and won't allow it. Hell we won't even vote in cheaper generic meds and actually have dumb ass people who argue against that. Our medical industry is a money making beast and they scored big with the ACA. The propaganda machine has got all the ignorant rednecks believing that free health care in Britain and Canada is composed of death panels and shitty doctors, believing stupid horror stories that aren't representative of those systems as a whole. I have a large group of relatives who are Canadian citizens. Health care is not perfect there but works fine.
But of course its so much easier to debate whether or not people should have free health care as a distraction for the raping we get every month.
No arguments here.
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in what way does being a progressive thinker intrude on your life???.......do you truly believe that you pay less tax when Republicans are in power???...even if republicans cut taxes, its an illusion because that money has to be made up somehow and we usually end up BORROWING it which makes it worse due to having to pay interest....Republicans often leave office with BIG DEFICITS which have to be paid for by INCREASED TAXES.....its a very big fallacy that we can have the kind of government we want and are used to with very very low taxes....its not happening..
As for regulations, Republicans believe in leaving people to their own devices which simply does not work..people will take advantage of all opportunities to do the wrong thing in order to enrich themselves...thats human nature..(see deregulation of banks).....regulation SAVES LIVES AND PROTECT THE PUBLIC..yes it costs more but saving lives usually does....
At least when the Dems want to spend they are honest about it and raise taxes to pay for it.........I would much rather tax and spend than borrow and spend
You do realize that part of the reason for deficits is that democrats won't cut spending right?
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As for regulations, Republicans believe in leaving people to their own devices which simply does not work..people will take advantage of all opportunities to do the wrong thing in order to enrich themselves...thats human nature..(see deregulation of banks).....regulation SAVES LIVES AND PROTECT THE PUBLIC..yes it costs more but saving lives usually does....
At least when the Dems want to spend they are honest about it and raise taxes to pay for it.........I would much rather tax and spend than borrow and spend
I've tried to ignore your stupidity for a long time but I just can't take it anymore
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/10/who-caused-the-economic-crisis/
Educate yourself, democrats are just as culpable in banking misregulation as anyone else
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You do realize that part of the reason for deficits is that democrats won't cut spending right?
You also realize that cutting spending is a more effective way of cutting the deficit than tax increases....right?
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Back to the original question....people vote democrat because the cannot bring themselves to elect nut jobs.
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You also realize that cutting spending is a more effective way of cutting the deficit than tax increases....right?
Actually cutting spending and increasing revenue is the absolute best way.
When was the last time a republican OR democrat cut spending?
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Actually cutting spending and increasing revenue is the absolute best way.
When was the last time a republican OR democrat cut spending?
Well the republicans got blamed for the sequester so...and dollar for dollar cutting spending is more effective than taxing more
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Well the republicans got blamed for the sequester so...and dollar for dollar cutting spending is more effective than taxing more
They don't want to cut spending. They just wanted obamacare to go away.
If they cared about cutting spending they would do it. They don't want to. They want to spend on what THEY want and want to stop the other side from spending on what THEY want to.
Democrats are equally full of shit.
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Actually cutting spending and increasing revenue is the absolute best way.
When was the last time a republican OR democrat cut spending?
You might be right. Cutting spending is ultimately unpopular with a large portion of the voting populous. As I've pointed out many times previously, a politician's job is to get elected and then to get reelected. Whether Democrat or Republican, politicians are whores who will say anything they believe the public wants to hear. Just look at all the egomaniacs debating in Las Vegas last night. After the primary, there will be the top two (or so) egocentric idiots competing for the thankless position of President of the United States.
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You do realize that part of the reason for deficits is that democrats won't cut spending right?
oh I definitely agree that Democtrats won't cut spending.....but at least they don't hide that fact....they don't give you a false choice....Republicans spend just as much and "cutting" taxes usually means cutting services and taking on huge debt....they SELDOM cut entitlements and actually give out more entitlements to corporations (oh thats right you dont consider that to be an "entitlement")
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You also realize that cutting spending is a more effective way of cutting the deficit than tax increases....right?
maybe,...I don't know...I'm not an economist....but by your reasoning Obama should be credited big time with cutting spending and lowering our deficit tremendously for seven straight years by keeping us out of costly and unnecessary wars..........
but of course you won't give him that credit will you?????????????
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They don't want to cut spending. They just wanted obamacare to go away.
If they cared about cutting spending they would do it. They don't want to. They want to spend on what THEY want and want to stop the other side from spending on what THEY want to.
Democrats are equally full of shit.
Agreed
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Back to the original question....people vote democrat because the cannot bring themselves to elect nut jobs.
;D ;D...well said
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Back to the original question....people vote democrat because the cannot bring themselves to elect nut jobs.
You were saying?
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You were saying?
i dont get it.. how does this partisan cartoon somehow prove or disprove anything
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i dont get it.. how does this partisan cartoon somehow prove or disprove anything
As you said.....you don't get it. :D
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i dont get it.. how does this partisan cartoon somehow prove or disprove anything
you are right..it actually doesn't prove anything......the fact of the matter is ISIS has not gained any territory since the summer and has been steadily losing territory in Syria and in Iraq due to U.S and allied bombing.....Obama said it would be a long war and he was right.....but people don't get it....especially those who have an agenda against Obama...they don't want to hear the truth
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You were saying?
how about talking about something factual?...like why Cruz and Trump haven't produced THEIR birth Certificates and why Cruz is has yet to clarify when his father became a citizen..Do you think there are some birther issues here like you claimed with Obama?????????????
Yet you are awfully quiet.....I WONDER WHY
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you are right..it actually doesn't prove anything......the fact of the matter is ISIS has not gained any territory since the summer and has been steadily losing territory in Syria and in Iraq due to U.S and allied bombing.....Obama said it would be a long war and he was right.....but people don't get it....especially those who have an agenda against Obama...they don't want to hear the truth
Obama's claim that ISIS is contained has been contradicted by the SecDef and one of his top military advisors, so you better circle back with the rest of the Obamabots to figure out your new talking points.
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Back to the original question....people vote democrat because the cannot bring themselves to elect nut jobs.
If that's the case, why do you think Republicans hold the House, Senate, a majority of governorships, and a majority of state legislatures?
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If that's the case, why do you think Republicans hold the House, Senate, a majority of governorships, and a majority of state legislatures?
As far as congress is concerned? gerrymandering!
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As far as congress is concerned? gerrymandering!
I don't agree with that.
It's complex. Many reasons. Gerrymandering may be one. Other reasons include:
Jesus loves republicans more than democrats?
Belief that the republicans will lower their taxes?
Belief that democrats are weak on national security?
Belief that republicans are more fiscally responsible?
All of which are lies.
Being racists could be another reason as well.
It's not just one thing. It never is.
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You might be right. Cutting spending is ultimately unpopular with a large portion of the voting populous. As I've pointed out many times previously, a politician's job is to get elected and then to get reelected. Whether Democrat or Republican, politicians are whores who will say anything they believe the public wants to hear. Just look at all the egomaniacs debating in Las Vegas last night. After the primary, there will be the top two (or so) egocentric idiots competing for the thankless position of President of the United States.
Agreed my friend, were damned if we do and damned if we dont
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Agreed my friend, were damned if we do and damned if we dont
This is something that I think we all agree on.
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maybe,...I don't know...I'm not an economist....but by your reasoning Obama should be credited big time with cutting spending and lowering our deficit tremendously for seven straight years by keeping us out of costly and unnecessary wars..........
but of course you won't give him that credit will you?????????????
Wait wait wait you mean the cutting spending from the sequester you and Obama blame on the republicans??? That cutting spending?
You don't have to be an economist to understand basic math. You gain more by cutting spending bc by doing that you gain Greater benefit from every dollar you bring in.
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As far as congress is concerned? gerrymandering!
Nationwide? I don't think that's accurate at all.
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Wait wait wait you mean the cutting spending from the sequester you and Obama blame on the republicans??? That cutting spending?
You don't have to be an economist to understand basic math. You gain more by cutting spending bc by doing that you gain Greater benefit from every dollar you bring in.
Sometimes you spend money to have a greater return.
Takes money to make money and all of that.
Like I said. You have to do both when you are in debt. If you want to get out of it.
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Wait wait wait you mean the cutting spending from the sequester you and Obama blame on the republicans??? That cutting spending?
You don't have to be an economist to understand basic math. You gain more by cutting spending bc by doing that you gain Greater benefit from every dollar you bring in.
deficits were going down in the years BEFORE the sequester....as for cutting spending, I do think we should cut spending......however spending cuts have not proven to be good for the economy...all the EU nations cut spending as well .....and their economies stagnated....
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If that's the case, why do you think Republicans hold the House, Senate, a majority of governorships, and a majority of state legislatures?
Do you not know that I live in Oregon?
Did you not notice that during the last eight years, a Democrat was twice elected as President of the United States? Republicans hold more cards than Democrats. Apparently, they are the losing cards when I comes to the Presidency. A lot of Republicans hope... or hoped that they would have a Republican in the White House again. It is really a shame that they can't find a viable candidate for this election.
At this point, some of my staunchest Republican friends are telling me they will vote for the Democratic candidate rather than to elect one of the nut jobs who are the front runners on the Republican side.
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(modern American) liberalism is the ideology of youth and naivety.
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(modern American) liberalism is the ideology of youth and naivety.
It goes both ways. Many young conservatives are just as naive. Idealistic views in youth are common place.
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Do you not know that I live in Oregon?
Did you not notice that during the last eight years, a Democrat was twice elected as President of the United States? Republicans hold more cards than Democrats. Apparently, they are the losing cards when I comes to the Presidency. A lot of Republicans hope... or hoped that they would have a Republican in the White House again. It is really a shame that they can't find a viable candidate for this election.
It sure is. McCain, Romney, and now Trump all are TURDS.
At this point, some of my staunchest Republican friends are telling me they will vote for the Democratic candidate rather than to elect one of the nut jobs who are the front runners on the Republican side.
It might play out that in an election year that should surely go to the Repubs, Trump will make it so that a Dem gets elected again.
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If Trump gets the nomination he may calm down his act....if he does that and appears SOMEWHAT reasonable he could take the presidency.....However he has certainly given any potential Democratic opponent a lot of fodder for future commercials against him
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This guy is an idiot and as big a danger to the US as Obama is/was. He has no plan....Obama had a plan to destroy us, Incrementally but a plan. Trump as zero plan other then..it will be great!
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This guy is an idiot and as big a danger to the US as Obama is/was. He has no plan....Obama had a plan to destroy us, Incrementally but a plan. Trump as zero plan other then..it will be great!
agreed. Did you hear trump defending putin today, when asked about how putin kills reporters?
Trump defending communist killer. unreal.
And worse, repubs suddenly lining up to kiss up to putin.
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agreed. Did you hear trump defending putin today, when asked about how putin kills reporters?
Trump defending communist killer. unreal.
And worse, repubs suddenly lining up to kiss up to putin.
Lie...you voted for him twice. Funny you say "agree" then follow up with a Trump blast.
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Lie...you voted for him twice.
Swear on your life, right now, on that claim. Do it.
At least swear on your big toe. Do it, man.
I've been on ted cruz' jock for a year straight while you waffled from RINO to RINO. If you can POSSIBLY defend trump, while he defends Putin for whacking reporters? Disgusting.
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Do you not know that I live in Oregon?
Did you not notice that during the last eight years, a Democrat was twice elected as President of the United States? Republicans hold more cards than Democrats. Apparently, they are the losing cards when I comes to the Presidency. A lot of Republicans hope... or hoped that they would have a Republican in the White House again. It is really a shame that they can't find a viable candidate for this election.
At this point, some of my staunchest Republican friends are telling me they will vote for the Democratic candidate rather than to elect one of the nut jobs who are the front runners on the Republican side.
Are you saying Obama won the last two elections because people thought McCain and Romney were "nut jobs"?
What is your explanation for why people elected "nut" jobs across the country at the state and federal levels?
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This guy is an idiot and as big a danger to the US as Obama is/was. He has no plan....Obama had a plan to destroy us, Incrementally but a plan. Trump as zero plan other then..it will be great!
I love your posts for their sheer stupidity.....I actually laughed out loud!...thanks! ;D
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Lie...you voted for him twice. Funny you say "agree" then follow up with a Trump blast.
still waiting on your answwer on the BC issue with Trump and Cruz....its been three months now....meanwhile when it was Obama's BC you were on here 12 hours a day with an opinion...
I LOVE THE HYPOCRISY
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Are you saying Obama won the last two elections because people thought McCain and Romney were "nut jobs"?
What is your explanation for why people elected "nut" jobs across the country at the state and federal levels?
2000 McCain wasn't. 2008 McCain was. Romney wasn't.
This go around though. It seems like there's more than a few nutters on the Red side.
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2000 McCain wasn't. 2008 McCain was. Romney wasn't.
This go around though. It seems like there's more than a few nutters on the Red side.
I don't consider any of them nuts. Not qualified or competent to be president, but not nuts.
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Are you saying Obama won the last two elections because people thought McCain and Romney were "nut jobs"?
What is your explanation for why people elected "nut" jobs across the country at the state and federal levels?
Romney is a complete crank. McCain is genuine but misguided.
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I don't consider any of them nuts. Not qualified or competent to be president, but not nuts.
They're worse than nuts. People with a mental disorder have an excuse. These guys choose to be stupid assholes.
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They're worse than nuts. People with a mental disorder have an excuse. These guys choose to be stupid assholes.
Nice observation
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Romney is a complete crank. McCain is genuine but misguided.
What you mean by crank?
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They're worse than nuts. People with a mental disorder have an excuse. These guys choose to be stupid assholes.
Really? All of them?
How do you distinguish them from Hillary?
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What you mean by crank?
I actually think that Romney is quite reasonable....what I hated about him was he was disingenuous....criticiz ing Obamacare when Obama ACTUALLY stole the idea from him :D....Romney spent his whole campaign not even acknowledging that he was basically the father of universal healthcare
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I actually think that Romney is quite reasonable....what I hated about him was he was disingenuous....criticiz ing Obamacare when Obama ACTUALLY stole the idea from him :D....Romney spent his whole campaign not even acknowledging that he was basically the father of universal healthcare
He was pretty clear that what he did worked at the state level, but was not good federal policy. There are numerous instances of good state policy that isn't necessarily good federal policy.
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He was pretty clear that what he did worked at the state level, but was not good federal policy. There are numerous instances of good state policy that isn't necessarily good federal policy.
Still its very very difficult to do something then criticize the next guy for doing the same thing bigger than you....especially after you (Romney) spent years touting the success of the program you started :D....I think Romney's best strategy should have been to say that since he created the program, he understood it better than Obama and could therefore reform it in a way to make it better.....that would have been a much better sell
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Still its very very difficult to do something then criticize the next guy for doing the same thing bigger than you....especially after you (Romney) spent years touting the success of the program you started :D....I think Romney's best strategy should have been to say that since he created the program, he understood it better than Obama and could therefore reform it in a way to make it better.....that would have been a much better sell
No it isn't. If he was previously pushing federal legislation, you'd have a point.
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No it isn't. If he was previously pushing federal legislation, you'd have a point.
I disagree but lets agree to disagree before this argument rises to the point to where I wind up having to destroy you (AGAIN) :D
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Really? All of them?
How do you distinguish them from Hillary?
This is hard for religious people to understand. But to me you are extremely deluded. I find it hard to interact with very religious people at any level. So that's most of them except trumpet whose obviously faking any belief in god. But he's the definition of asshole.
Hillary is a professional politician who benefitted from years of insider experience in Washington. I do not think that she'll be a transformational president. But she will steer the country well enough and should benefit Canadians.
What you mean by crank?
Addicts. Either addicts to the cock of Christ or to the sound of their own voices. They're fools. They look like fools. Sound like fools. Speak like fools. Move like fools. Live like fools. And so on.
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This is hard for religious people to understand. But to me you are extremely deluded. I find it hard to interact with very religious people at any level. So that's most of them except trumpet whose obviously faking any belief in god. But he's the definition of asshole.
Hillary is a professional politician who benefitted from years of insider experience in Washington. I do not think that she'll be a transformational president. But she will steer the country well enough and should benefit Canadians.
Addicts. Either addicts to the cock of Christ or to the sound of their own voices. They're fools. They look like fools. Sound like fools. Speak like fools. Move like fools. Live like fools. And so on.
Maybe people have a hard time understanding you, because you aren't really saying anything. For example, you just said Romney is an a-hole, because . . . he is. No analysis. No facts. And then you sound frustrated when people don't simply accept what you say?
You're Canadian? Geeze Louise. You coulda told me that a while ago. Would saved me a lot of time. lol :)
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Maybe people have a hard time understanding you, because you aren't really saying anything. For example, you just said Romney is an a-hole, because . . . he is. No analysis. No facts. And then you sound frustrated when people don't simply accept what you say?
You're Canadian? Geeze Louise. You coulda told me that a while ago. Would saved me a lot of time. lol :)
Self-evident truths need no rhetoric.
See what I mean about not being able to converse?
I certainly would not accept anything so foolish as "all men are created equal". One of the founding lies of Americanism.
As such I could care less if you choose to understand truth or not.
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Self-evident truths need no rhetoric.
See what I mean about not being able to converse?
I certainly would not accept anything so foolish as "all men are created equal". One of the founding lies of Americanism.
As such I could care less if you choose to understand truth or not.
Saying someone is an a-hole, with nothing more, is not a self-evident truth. Do you even know what that phrase means?
Is this what they teach you in those Canadian schools?
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Saying someone is an a-hole, with nothing more, is not a self-evident truth. Do you even know what that phrase means?
Is this what they teach you in those Canadian schools?
How would you describe Trump?
A passionate, bombastic patriot?
::)
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He was pretty clear that what he did worked at the state level, but was not good federal policy. There are numerous instances of good state policy that isn't necessarily good federal policy.
romneycare? his anti-gun legislation, some of the strictest the NRA had ever seen? His sanctuary cities AND mansion?
LOL bro... Romney was obama when he was in office.
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If Trump gets the nomination he may calm down his act....if he does that and appears SOMEWHAT reasonable he could take the presidency.....However he has certainly given any potential Democratic opponent a lot of fodder for future commercials against him
And Hitlery should be in Jail, and would be if she didn't marry someone connected. Massive criminal. Really hilarious she is unchallenged shoe in for dems. WOW
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How would you describe Trump?
A passionate, bombastic patriot?
::)
Actually, that's a pretty accurate description.