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Title: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: judochoke on April 14, 2016, 10:11:15 PM
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: judochoke on April 14, 2016, 10:14:15 PM
really the first real work out that i did these. very hard to do for me, being kind of fat. the position is not normal, as my belt is really tight, makes it hard to breath. but for fucks sake, they work.
did them today, and tonight my back is feeling good and tight. that's a good sign for me. my workout partner and i were sweating like bitches. give them a try. judo
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Henda on April 14, 2016, 10:27:53 PM
I tried them for a few weeks but didn't like having no stretch at the bottom of the movement which I feel is very important, the same (deadstop) effect can be achieved by pausing in the stretched position with the torso almost parallel to the floor, been doing them this way instead of the "yates" torso at 45 degrees or above style which did for years and am really liking the new style
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Yanin on April 14, 2016, 11:16:16 PM
Pendlay rows
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Post by: Coffeed on April 14, 2016, 11:56:46 PM
Real rows are done on the water in a shell, not with pads on the floor, on your wrists, and cuddled up to your mangina.
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Mr Anabolic on April 15, 2016, 04:12:32 AM
I tried them for a few weeks but didn't like having no stretch at the bottom of the movement which I feel is very important, the same (deadstop) effect can be achieved by pausing in the stretched position with the torso almost parallel to the floor, been doing them this way instead of the "yates" torso at 45 degrees or above style which did for years and am really liking the new style

Yates style 45 degree BB rows do not innervate the lats or mid back for me at all.  They hit more traps than anything else.  Yates would've had a big/wide back no matter what exercises he did.  Look at early pics of him, his lats were a strong point from the very start.
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Grape Ape on April 15, 2016, 04:43:50 AM
really the first real work out that i did these. very hard to do for me, being kind of fat. the position is not normal, as my belt is really tight, makes it hard to breath. but for fucks sake, they work.
did them today, and tonight my back is feeling good and tight. that's a good sign for me. my workout partner and i were sweating like bitches. give them a try. judo

I do rows like this exclusively, as it eliminates momentum and takes out the band reflex.

The difference is, the guy in the video is using momentum to move the weight.   Should lower the weight, keep his back flat, and lift the weight by squeezing his shoulder blades.

Also, there's no need for a belt.  Almost ever.
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Yamcha on April 15, 2016, 04:46:04 AM

Also, there's no need for a belt.  Almost ever.

x2
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on April 15, 2016, 11:10:08 AM
I do rows like this exclusively, as it eliminates momentum and takes out the band reflex.

The difference is, the guy in the video is using momentum to move the weight.   Should lower the weight, keep his back flat, and lift the weight by squeezing his shoulder blades.

Also, there's no need for a belt.  Almost ever.

God bless you Grape Ape
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Dr Dutch on April 15, 2016, 11:18:24 AM
T-bars rule, still compound, less cheating. My nr 1 back exercise.
Combined with regular deads, that's all a back needs.
Not even a need for pullups.
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: kreator on April 15, 2016, 11:29:20 AM
the horror  :o

poor guy will be lucky if his back makes it to the end of the year
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: jpm101 on April 15, 2016, 11:58:01 AM
This type BB row has been a favorite of mind for years.  Another version is using a narrower curl grip, rather than the normal overhand grip, and bringing the bar more into the lower abs can influencing the lats and even the biceps that much more.

Those 45 degree BB rows are a mass builders, no doubt. Overhand or curl grip...which ever you prefer. Also hits the biceps strongly. Anyway you do BB rows, can buildup to a surprising amount of weight being used.

Momentum and a slight cheating style pretty much is the pattern of some really large and strong men. If others find superior results from by-the-book workouts, than good for them. Each of us have our own training goals in mind.

Just to note: really never need a belt with this lift. The actually dynamic, or purpose, would be lost on this type exercise.

Good Luck.

Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: dr.chimps on April 15, 2016, 12:03:29 PM
Published on Apr 14, 2016

Category         Comedy


!?   ;D
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: devilsmile on April 15, 2016, 12:22:15 PM
the horror  :o

poor guy will be lucky if his back makes it to the end of the year

what ever it takes, right babe

really the first real work out that i did these.

i know ur stronger and more accomplished in life than i am, but LOLZ to that
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: BlackMetallic on April 15, 2016, 01:53:23 PM
Stan Efferding does a version of these

Whatever works for you
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: judochoke on April 15, 2016, 02:16:25 PM
lol on doing them strictly. the idea is to cheat a little, to get the weight moving. I'm not a 120 pound twins, doing a ten on each side, doing them real slow like a pussy. my back is fine!!!
i lift like a animal. not a pussy :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
.
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Grape Ape on April 15, 2016, 03:40:10 PM
lol on doing them strictly. the idea is to cheat a little, to get the weight moving. I'm not a 120 pound twins, doing a ten on each side, doing them real slow like a pussy. my back is fine!!!
i lift like a animal. not a pussy :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
.

Translation:  I'm fat, use a weight belt because my core is weak, and I ego lift.

Anyway be careful with that weight belt, you might poke a hole in your zebra striped Zubaz pants.

Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: judochoke on April 15, 2016, 07:15:20 PM
Yes I'm a little fat. Yes I'm bald. Yes I'm not too good looking anymore.
BUT, I'm banging two plates for six reps, for 4 sets. At age 59 bitches👄👄👄👄👄👄👄👄
And that two plates will soon be two oranges and a yellow on each side. That's 275 if you
Can't figure that out. 💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉💉👠👠👠
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Hulkotron on April 15, 2016, 07:42:11 PM
Zercher squats
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Never1AShow on April 15, 2016, 08:00:08 PM
I never do cable long rows without envisioning myself as one of those Roman slaves rowing the slave ship in a gladiator movie.
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Mr Anabolic on April 16, 2016, 04:57:20 AM
I never do cable long rows without envisioning myself as one of those Roman slaves rowing the slave ship in a gladiator movie.

This is how Dorian did it...

Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Thong Maniac on April 16, 2016, 05:14:17 AM
This is how Dorian did it...



never seen that. intense scene
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 16, 2016, 05:26:25 AM
The back is really in a compromised position there. Then compound that by the momentum jerk and you have a recipe for a lower back injury.
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: drkaje on April 16, 2016, 05:47:19 AM
Doesn't strict form build more muscle?
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Never1AShow on April 16, 2016, 05:54:46 AM
This is how Dorian did it...



Awesome.  Looks like a young Ted Cruz filling in as a Roman Centurion there.
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: dr.chimps on April 16, 2016, 06:02:55 AM
Awesome.  Looks like a young Ted Cruz filling in as a Roman Centurion there.
Not even close. Good luck with your chads.  ;D
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Never1AShow on April 16, 2016, 06:06:46 AM
Not even close. Good luck with your chads.  ;D

What?  Not even close?  Cmon at least maybe a relative?  He's got that same essence of melty Dracula that Cruz has.
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: dr.chimps on April 16, 2016, 06:14:09 AM
What?  Not even close?  Cmon at least maybe a relative?  He's got that same essence of melty Dracula that Cruz has.
Ha! Nice.  Creepy, dracula-pedo thingy going on. 
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on April 16, 2016, 06:20:03 AM
I've never seen anyone row more than 225 pounds with good form.
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Donny on April 16, 2016, 06:56:29 AM
let's get Fucking Nasty  ;D
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: _aj_ on April 16, 2016, 06:59:23 AM
let's get Fucking Nasty  ;D


Clearly, I am do-rag deficient.
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: drkaje on April 16, 2016, 07:07:41 AM
Clearly, I am do-rag deficient.

You're not taking the lifestyle seriously, LOL!
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: devilsmile on April 16, 2016, 09:11:20 AM
before scoliosis i was able to do 225 for over 10 good reps with almost 90 degree angle and i didn't use a belt and i never had any back akes. i didn't do the movement slow but i had no problem flexing my lower back to keep me from bending and i could pull that shit relatively easily. i think i maxed out at that. when i started to do low reps i could never top 2 plates and quarters each side for more than 5-6 reps with deceant form but i had to use a belt. having no athletic base and twink genes plus natural is a struggle
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Thong Maniac on April 16, 2016, 09:13:22 AM
before scoliosis i was able to do 225 for over 10 good reps with almost 90 degree angle and i didn't use a belt and i never had any back akes. i didn't do the movement slow but my back didn't move much and i could pull that shit relatively easily. i think i maxed out at that. when i started to do low reps i could never top 2 plates and quarters each side for more than 5-6 reps with deceant form but i had to use a belt. having no athletic base and twink genes plus natural is a struggle

how bad is your scolosis? my parenst said i didnt have it as a kid, but i started noticing it when i was about 18. im like 20 percent curve. its noticeable when my shirt is off when looking at me from the front
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: devilsmile on April 16, 2016, 09:28:05 AM
how bad is your scolosis? my parenst said i didnt have it as a kid, but i started noticing it when i was about 18. im like 20 percent curve. its noticeable when my shirt is off when looking at me from the front

i don't know about percentages but the docs and massage therapist told me it's definitely not the worst they have seen but its definitely noticable. my lower back makes a slight twist. my knees have also started not to like weighed squats if i stop at the top because my 2011 knee injuries are now starting to remind me of reality.

that being said i haven't lifted weights in almost a year yet again. i'm trying to get some courage to go back to the gym to start doing a light powerlifting program 3 times a week and see how it feels but i'm afraid even that could be too much and then i'm really not able to do ANY work that involves legs.

it's annoying becauseif i don't use my lower back, it gets stiff. like if i sit down a long time or stand for a long time my lower back gets stiff, so in actuality i have to do deadlifts so my back feels better. but if i do them too much, my
back feels like shit as well and i couldn't lift my gym bag off the ground. it's depressing.

i can do sprints, i can bicycle, i can do burpees, i can do squat jumps and not have any consequences, but when i add weights...  :'( >:(
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Marty Champions on April 16, 2016, 03:02:47 PM
i don't know about percentages but the docs and massage therapist told me it's definitely not the worst they have seen but its definitely noticable. my lower back makes a slight twist. my knees have also started not to like weighed squats if i stop at the top because my 2011 knee injuries are now starting to remind me of reality.

that being said i haven't lifted weights in almost a year yet again. i'm trying to get some courage to go back to the gym to start doing a light powerlifting program 3 times a week and see how it feels but i'm afraid even that could be too much and then i'm really not able to do ANY work that involves legs.

it's annoying becauseif i don't use my lower back, it gets stiff. like if i sit down a long time or stand for a long time my lower back gets stiff, so in actuality i have to do deadlifts so my back feels better. but if i do them too much, my
back feels like shit as well and i couldn't lift my gym bag off the ground. it's depressing.

i can do sprints, i can bicycle, i can do burpees, i can do squat jumps and not have any consequences, but when i add weights...  :'( >:(
u have bad kidneys clean them
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: devilsmile on April 16, 2016, 03:04:48 PM
u have bad kidneys clean them

really? please explain
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Fortress on April 16, 2016, 03:11:13 PM
I barbell row like a champ.
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: _aj_ on April 16, 2016, 03:26:02 PM
I prefer the chest supported variety.

(http://i68.tinypic.com/14j5m4i.jpg)
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: wes on April 16, 2016, 03:30:23 PM
Fuck Rows!!   :D
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 16, 2016, 03:35:12 PM
Fuck Rows!!   :D

Penis-skull-crushers
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: FREAKgeek on April 16, 2016, 03:53:46 PM
Pendlay rows

X2. That's what they are nothing new
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Mr Anabolic on April 16, 2016, 04:03:56 PM
I prefer the chest supported variety.

(http://i68.tinypic.com/14j5m4i.jpg)

They don't do much for your erectors or lower back though.
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: _aj_ on April 16, 2016, 04:06:07 PM
They don't do much for your erectors or lower back though.

Trap bar deadlifts and Romanian deadlifts for that. Easier for me to control. Egad, if you are doing shit rows like that for lower back, enjoy traction.
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Marty Champions on April 16, 2016, 04:06:55 PM
really? please explain
kidneys are your filters and need routine maintenance , your filters need filtering too


your lower back area is where your kidneys are at
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: devilsmile on April 16, 2016, 04:16:13 PM
kidneys are your filters and need routine maintenance , your filters need filtering too


your lower back area is where your kidneys are at

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/lvK8Fmm1a2k/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Marty Champions on April 16, 2016, 04:24:00 PM
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/lvK8Fmm1a2k/maxresdefault.jpg)
cmon man are u fucking stupid? your kidneys filter your blood all day long stupidfuck quit playing ignorance
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: devilsmile on April 16, 2016, 04:35:50 PM
cmon man are u fucking stupid? your kidneys filter your blood all day long stupidfuck quit playing ignorance

(http://images.amcnetworks.com/blogs.amctv.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/no-country-jones-new-760.gif)
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Mr Anabolic on April 16, 2016, 04:45:04 PM
Trap bar deadlifts and Romanian deadlifts for that. Easier for me to control. Egad, if you are doing shit rows like that for lower back, enjoy traction.

At 50, there's no need for me to go over 185lbs on BB rows.  I never ego trained, even when I was young.
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: _aj_ on April 16, 2016, 04:47:38 PM
At 50, there's no need for me to go over 185lbs on BB rows.  I never ego trained, even when I was young.

Right there with you, bro. I am 51 and I've never gone beyond 205 for the chest supported rows. I do occasionally like doing bent over rows with a trap bar. The lack of a bar through the middle allows me to rotate at the shoulder and back rather than pull straight up, which puts stress on my biceps.
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: judochoke on April 16, 2016, 08:58:46 PM
Bunch of 50 year old pussys. I'm 59, and I'm not ego lifting. Somebody said I was coming up too high.
I think I am too. I'm going to correct that, and just come to parallel. Like I said, I just started doing these.
I am going to lift as heavy as I can for as long as I can!!! 
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Yamcha on April 17, 2016, 01:28:59 PM
 ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: devilsmile on April 17, 2016, 01:31:01 PM
Bunch of 50 year old pussys. I'm 59, and I'm not ego lifting. Somebody said I was coming up too high.
I think I am too. I'm going to correct that, and just come to parallel. Like I said, I just started doing these.
I am going to lift as heavy as I can for as long as I can!!! 

that's crazy  :o, how can u do it?!?!?!
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Grape Ape on April 17, 2016, 01:41:30 PM
Bunch of 50 year old pussys. I'm 59, and I'm not ego lifting. Somebody said I was coming up too high.
I think I am too. I'm going to correct that, and just come to parallel. Like I said, I just started doing these.
I am going to lift as heavy as I can for as long as I can!!!  

I once spotted _aj_ on a set of DB presses where he did the 120s for 10 full reps, so I hope you weren't talking about him.

But, there's no trophy or anything you get from lifting weight incorrectly.   Better to use a weight that eliminates momentum necessary to heave up the weight.   You once said recently you went on TRT.....you probably feel great, but don't let it make you feel so good that fall back into the same things that made you hurt your shoulder and your knees.

All you'll end up with is a fucked up back to compliment your festering smelly scrotum.

Drop some weight and stop being fat.  Actually, drop a lot of weight, and use the TRT to make you stay strong, but within reason.
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 17, 2016, 01:42:04 PM
that's crazy  :o, how can u do it?!?!?!

You take an extra scoop of pre-workout, and then you impersonate Rico Piano by saying "let's fucking do this shit!"
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: devilsmile on April 17, 2016, 01:47:52 PM
You take an extra scoop of pre-workout, and then you impersonate Rico Piano by saying "let's fucking do this shit!"

that's so hardcore  :o!!!!!!
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: drkaje on April 17, 2016, 02:50:37 PM
Working to increase my deadlift. After researching (and working on) proper form I'm looking at exceeding the most recent max by 5%. Form sucked before and it feels better (not easier but kind of different) using proper form. Probably don't look any different (cardio allergy, LOL!) but I'm not struggling as much with some of the lifts.

The people I see at the gym who look the best (over time) have the strictest form.

I just don't see a point to putting your ego on the bar or feeling there's something to prove.

Might be another 50 year old pussy but it's about health and being fit at this point.
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on April 17, 2016, 03:25:58 PM
I prefer the chest supported variety.

(http://i68.tinypic.com/14j5m4i.jpg)
that is the scariest seal row setup I have ever seen  :o
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: judochoke on April 17, 2016, 05:13:23 PM
yes I'm on TRT. just a small weekly shot of 100 mgs. yes i do feel fantastic. yes my form was a little off on that set. but, i warm up with about 12 sets of light to medium weight before getting into my work sets. no
need to pussy up just because I'm getting older. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Grape Ape on April 17, 2016, 10:03:06 PM
yes I'm on TRT. just a small weekly shot of 100 mgs. yes i do feel fantastic. yes my form was a little off on that set. but, i warm up with about 12 sets of light to medium weight before getting into my work sets. no
need to pussy up just because I'm getting older. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

You seem to have the terms "pussy" and "smart" confused.

And I bet your nuts still smell like gingiviits
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: _aj_ on April 18, 2016, 03:37:57 AM
You seem to have the terms "pussy" and "smart" confused.

And I bet your nuts still smell like gingiviits

Go easy on him, like Ronnie Coleman, I am sure that using "man weight" and yanking it all around will have zero future repercussions. You're just being a pussy!
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: drkaje on April 18, 2016, 03:44:25 AM
Natural athlete of peace.
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: devilsmile on April 18, 2016, 03:57:11 AM
yes I'm on TRT. just a small weekly shot of 100 mg.

really small, that's like pre puberty female level test use ::)
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 18, 2016, 04:01:39 AM
really small, that's like pre puberty female level test use ::)

It's about the same as the natural test production of a young male
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: devilsmile on April 18, 2016, 04:05:15 AM
It's about the same as the natural test production of a young male

crazy how trt users still don't lose any muscle during time off and the young males who are not on trt lose muscle during time off
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Mr Anabolic on April 18, 2016, 04:09:30 AM
really small, that's like pre puberty female level test use ::)

For an older male who is deficient, 100mgs is actually a standard replacement dose.  I am considering TRT, but I'm putting it off as long as possible.  It's getting harder and harder for me to gain/keep muscle, no matter how dialed in my training/diet is.
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: _aj_ on April 18, 2016, 04:10:39 AM
TRT rules!!  :D
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 18, 2016, 04:33:18 AM
crazy how trt users still don't lose any muscle during time off and the young males who are not on trt lose muscle during time off

Not sure if this is the case.. It depends on so many factors like dosages, time on/off periods and lifestyle factors like training, nutrition and sleep. Most typical young users I see, don't bust their balls in the gym when off and they don't give a shit about nutrition or sleep. Older people tend to care much more about their lifestyle and its effect on their health.
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: devilsmile on April 18, 2016, 04:51:47 AM
yeyeyeyeyeye i was just fuckng with yall. but even if i had my lifestyle in order. like perfect sleep habbits, eating habbits and training habbits i would never look like aj without taking test, i would never look like u without taking test, droppingplates. it's just a fact. i would gain some muscle quality and on paper i would be improving, but in looks the differene would be like one or two percent. i was looking at my old photos when i was at my best shape of my life when i basically lived in the gym, and now that i only do bodyweight training and half assing with everything, the difference isn't gigantic, it's very noticable and i am far skinnier, but only when comparing the work i put in back then and the work i put in now. if i used test i would grow bigger by just doing twenty push ups before bed than when i did deadlifts, squats, pull ups with weights and "heavy lifting".

whatever, i guess i'm just bitter. i miss my healthy knees and back  :'(
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: _aj_ on April 18, 2016, 04:57:09 AM
yeyeyeyeyeye i was just fuckng with yall. but even if i had my lifestyle in order. like perfect sleep habbits, eating habbits and training habbits i would never look like aj without taking test, i would never look like u without taking test, droppingplates. it's just a fact. i would gain some muscle quality and on paper i would be improving, but in looks the differene would be like one or two percent. i was looking at my old photos when i was at my best shape of my life when i basically lived in the gym, and now that i only do bodyweight training and half assing with everything, the difference isn't gigantic, it's very noticable and i am far skinnier, but only when comparing the work i put in back then and the work i put in now. if i used test i would grow bigger by just doing twenty push ups before bed than when i did deadlifts, squats, pull ups with weights and "heavy lifting".

whatever, i guess i'm just bitter. i miss my healthy knees and back  :'(

Comes the moment that you realize that -- for the most part -- training to improve your physique without hormones is pretty pointless. Takes some folks a long time to get here. Welcome.
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Donny on April 18, 2016, 04:59:55 AM
yes you need the drugs ::)
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: _aj_ on April 18, 2016, 05:11:33 AM
yes you need the drugs ::)

Sure, point out the 1:1,000,000 as the rule. Maybe the exception that proves the rule?

Also, he was using gear too. Get used to it.
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Donny on April 18, 2016, 05:17:58 AM
Sure, point out the 1:1,000,000 as the rule. Maybe the exception that proves the rule?

Also, he was using gear too. Get used to it.
Get used to what -aj-? a lot of old timers built solid physiques without any drugs. Sure they didnīt look "freaky" like the guys today but were strong. You canīt say only with drugs. I understand some older guys helping nature a bit.
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Donny on April 18, 2016, 05:22:10 AM
The thread is about Bent over rows. I am not anti drugs as i think itīs an individual choice. you do it itīs your business. Just was never my world. I of course know people who use them and i never ask about it. They do their thing and good is..really that simple.
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: drkaje on April 18, 2016, 05:25:18 AM
You have to wonder how many guys need TRT due to obesity.
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: devilsmile on April 18, 2016, 05:27:48 AM
Comes the moment that you realize that -- for the most part -- training to improve your physique without hormones is pretty pointless. Takes some folks a long time to get here. Welcome.

yeah aj, i know that improving physique too much without hormones is pointless but being able to do heavy deads and squats do wonders even to the natural physique, especially for a skinny structured guy like my self the difference is noticable.

the "professors" in my gym told me that i will never gain any strength unless i go to a powerlifting gym that has trainers watching me how to do shit in proper manner in relation to my physical condition, it would cost a shit tonn more money as well, like 150 bucks a month, but a guy like me training solo usually never works, the wall hits like PAU! YOU SHALL NOT PASS!

The thread is about Bent over rows.

this thread is about whatever you want it to be about
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Powerlift66 on April 18, 2016, 06:18:39 AM
I like the plate loaded, chest supported T-bar rows, works the lats, not the lower back. (have degenerated disc issues).

I do deadlift (lighter), and more hypers for low back these days.

(http://hlfitnessequipment.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/P1010150.jpg)
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Donny on April 18, 2016, 06:34:57 AM
I like the plate loaded, chest supported T-bar rows, works the lats, not the lower back. (have degenerated disc issues).

I do deadlift (lighter), and more hypers for low back these days.

(http://hlfitnessequipment.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/P1010150.jpg)
very wise.
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Disco187 on April 18, 2016, 06:51:37 AM
anyone who i lifted with that did bent over rows correctly always had a edge over my friends who did not do them.  I def must say theres something to be said about bent over rows. Done correctly though
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Donny on April 18, 2016, 06:57:29 AM
anyone who i lifted with that did bent over rows correctly always had a edge over my friends who did not do them.  I def must say theres something to be said about bent over rows. Done correctly though
I do them old school Parallel or slightly above, strict but will use some body English as i tire. Great exercise to alternate with DB one arm rows.
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Donny on April 20, 2016, 07:04:51 AM
It's about the same as the natural test production of a young male
yes you know all about young males donīt you :D
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 20, 2016, 07:07:52 AM
yes you know all about young males donīt you :D

Your responses are as weak as the natural test production of a 12 y/o girl  :-*
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Donny on April 20, 2016, 07:13:16 AM
Your responses are as weak as the natural test production of a 12 y/o girl  :-*

listen man i donīt want to know about 12 year old girls...  :o
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: DroppingPlates on April 20, 2016, 07:28:51 AM
listen man i donīt want to know about 12 year old girls...  :o

It's a public secret on Getbig that you're no stranger to pedo activities
Title: Re: these bent over rows are hard to do
Post by: Donny on April 20, 2016, 07:33:29 AM
It's a public secret on Getbig that you're no stranger to pedo activities
Hey Bro..you are the one talking about young males and 12 year old girls...WTF?  :o