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A petition already has been started.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/ban-ar-15-civilian-ownership
Guns in America is a complicated issue for many reasons. However, the AR-15 is the weapon of choice for Domestic Terrorists and others who wish to kill and harm people quickly and efficiently. It serves no other purpose other than to accomplish this. Banning this gun will show that we can act on this issue. It will have symbolic weight while also making one small step forward on dealing with this epidemic.
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http://www.salon.com/2016/06/13/nobody_needs_an_ar_15_the_orlando_massacre_teaches_us_again_that_we_must_ban_semi_automatic_human_killing_machines/
Nobody needs an AR-15: The Orlando massacre teaches us (again) that we must ban semi-automatic human killing machines. Do it now: Congress must ban military-style weapons and make it harder for terrorists to act on their hate
We’ve had yet another horrific mass shooting. In fact, it’s the worst mass shooting in American history. More than fifty people were killed and many more wounded in a nightclub that catered to gay people in Orlando Florida. At the moment I’m writing this, what we know is that these murders were carried out by an American Muslim by the name of Omar Mateen, the son of Afghan immigrants who was born in New York 29 years ago. We know that he called 911 during the killing and reportedly pledged allegiance to ISIS and mentioned the Tsarnaev brothers (who were not ISIS, for what it’s worth). We know the FBI had been aware of some radical connections and jihadist “leanings” and had interviewed him in the past. His father reported that he was an angry homophobe. His ex-wife said he was a violent domestic abuser who was mentally unstable. He was a hate-filled, violent piece of work.
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As a gun owner, I believe stricter gun laws are needed. But this is stupid. So cars kill a shit load of people. Are we banning those now too ?
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its a start.
But seriously you guys(Americans) need to get over the whole "right to bear arms" shit. Stop thinking about protecting urself and worry about protecting your fellow Americans.
Yup, you have the right to own guns and protect urself. How's that working out for you as Nation??
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As a gun owner, I believe stricter gun laws are needed. But this is stupid. So cars kill a shit load of people. Are we banning those now too ?
ur kidding right????
do people go and buy a car with the intent of killing as many people as they can with it? smh
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ur kidding right????
do people go and buy a car with the intent of killing as many people as they can with it? smh
People buy bats and hammers with the intent to kill, are you saying we should ban sporting goods and hand tools too?
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its a start.
But seriously you guys(Americans) need to get over the whole "right to bear arms" shit. Stop thinking about protecting urself and worry about protecting your fellow Americans.
Yup, you have the right to own guns and protect urself. How's that working out for you as Nation??
Stick to posting naked sluts, your worded posts are horrible.
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Stick to posting naked sluts, your worded posts are horrible.
cant handle the truth hey :'(
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They were " banned " already ( Thanks ASSHOLE Clinton ) 1994-2004 and it has ZERO impact on crime and violence.
I live in Massachusetts and we are currently in an " Assault Weapons Ban " so a national one ( again ) would mean shit to me, However the deluded masses are under the assumption that these rifles were banned from being owned and possessed , which they NEVER were.
They are used in the smallest proportion of gun murders and more people are killed using hands & feet than ALL rifles including the AR15 subset. Entertaining they could ban the complete manufacturer , transfer and sale of these types of rifles it would have ZERO impact on gun violence and you know what would happen? They would move to next ban semi-automatic pistols
This is about slowly infringing on people's rights. I will keep posting this and showing how ignorant antis are.
3 out of the 4 completed rifles in this pictures are in a " Assault Weapons Ban " configuration. Can you tell which ones are? And how would another Assault Weapons Ban prevent what happened? I'm still waiting.
FYI the time of Sandy Hook the state of Connecticut had a " Assault Weapons Ban " tell me again how these " bans " save lives?
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Where is aj to speak on this?
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They were " banned " already ( Thanks ASSHOLE Clinton ) 1994-2004 and it has ZERO impact on crime and violence.
I live in Massachusetts and we are currently in an " Assault Weapons Ban " so a national one ( again ) would mean shit to me, However the deluded masses are under the assumption that these rifles were banned from being owned and possessed , which they NEVER were.
They are used in the smallest proportion of gun murders and more people are killed using hands & feet than ALL rifles including the AR15 subset. Entertaining they could ban the complete manufacturer , transfer and sale of these types of rifles it would have ZERO impact on gun violence and you know what would happen? They would move to next ban semi-automatic pistols
This is about slowly infringing on people's rights. I will keep posting this and showing how ignorant antis are.
3 out of the 4 completed rifles in this pictures are in a " Assault Weapons Ban " configuration. Can you tell which ones are? And how would another Assault Weapons Ban prevent what happened? I'm still waiting.
FYI the time of Sandy Hook the state of Connecticut had a " Assault Weapons Ban " tell me again how these " bans " save lives?
compare the US to countries that have actual gun laws and regulations. Your murders ans mass killing are off the charts in comparison.
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compare the US to countries that have actual gun laws and regulations. Your murders ans mass killing are off the charts in comparison.
That doesn't answer my questions
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Reality gun ownership is at an all-time high and violent crimes keeps falling.
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compare the US to countries that have actual gun laws and regulations. Your murders ans mass killing are off the charts in comparison.
They were " banned " already ( Thanks ASSHOLE Clinton ) 1994-2004 and it has ZERO impact on crime and violence.
I live in Massachusetts and we are currently in an " Assault Weapons Ban " so a national one ( again ) would mean shit to me, However the deluded masses are under the assumption that these rifles were banned from being owned and possessed , which they NEVER were.
They are used in the smallest proportion of gun murders and more people are killed using hands & feet than ALL rifles including the AR15 subset. Entertaining they could ban the complete manufacturer , transfer and sale of these types of rifles it would have ZERO impact on gun violence and you know what would happen? They would move to next ban semi-automatic pistols
This is about slowly infringing on people's rights. I will keep posting this and showing how ignorant antis are.
3 out of the 4 completed rifles in this pictures are in a " Assault Weapons Ban " configuration. Can you tell which ones are? And how would another Assault Weapons Ban prevent what happened? I'm still waiting.
FYI the time of Sandy Hook the state of Connecticut had a " Assault Weapons Ban " tell me again how these " bans " save lives?
so you think "your rights(sane normal people)" are more important than protecting your country as a whole???
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Reality gun ownership is at an all-time high and violent crimes keeps falling.
but mass shooting are continuing and increasing
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Seems to make more sense to ban gun free zones. That's where all the mass shootings are. Easy pickins.
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so you think "your rights(sane normal people)" are more important than protecting your country as a whole???
What does that even mean? Protecting my country as a whole? ??? I'm reasonable but we know for a FACT already an " Assault Weapons Ban " did absolutely NOTHING to prevent violence. And 3 out of 4 of my rifles are in a AWB configuration AGAIN how would this have prevented any mass shooting?
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Seems to make more sense to ban gun free zones. That's where all the mass shootings are. Easy pickins.
i have no clue which states have what laws....but really??
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but mass shooting are continuing and increasing
A red herring , the vast majority of gun violence is perpetrated with pistols , why? easily concealable. More people are killed every year with hands & feet than ALL rifles. Ban hands & feet , it's for the kids ::)
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i have no clue which states have what laws....but really??
You sound like a guy trying to discuss a subject he knows very little about.
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i have no clue which states have what laws....but really??
Then why put your 2 cents in on something you know nothing about? Watching too much tv and believing what the media reports will rot your brain, moreso than porn! :D
BTW, yes really.
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You sound like a guy trying to discuss a subject he knows very little about.
BINGO !! Everyone has an opinion and 99% of them are totally ignorant on the subject. But they know " something " has to be done. So fuck facts , appeals to emotion are more important
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As a gun owner, I believe stricter gun laws are needed. But this is stupid. So cars kill a shit load of people. Are we banning those now too ?
Cars are well regulated, require safety features. Operators are required to pass tests, have liability insurance. Let's do the same for guns.
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Cars are well regulated, require safety features. Operators are required to pass tests, have liability insurance. Let's do the same for guns.
Should also license gays, have them tested and insured to make sure they don't pass on any infectious, harmful diseases.
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What they will do is ban rifles because they look like the ones used in the Marines , when that fails to halt mass shootings and gin violence , the cries of " what have to do something " will get deafening , and guess what? next up semiautomatic pistols must be banned , because now we've figured out they really killed more than rifle , and they keep chipping away until you have NO way to protect yourself
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A red herring , the vast majority of gun violence is perpetrated with pistols , why? easily concealable. More people are killed every year with hands & feet than ALL rifles. Ban hands & feet , it's for the kids ::)
We're talking about mass shootings, almost all by crazy people using assault rifles. Propose another way to prevent them. No? Just collateral damage so you can have your toy.
How about this: You can have all the weapons of any type you want, as long as you store them and don't ever remove them from the shooting range.
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Cars are well regulated, require safety features. Operators are required to pass tests, have liability insurance. Let's do the same for guns.
Shouldn't you be out doing something positive for the environment rather than sitting around burning carbon all day?
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Cars are well regulated, require safety features. Operators are required to pass tests, have liability insurance. Let's do the same for guns.
Fantastic logic ::) cars and driving are privileges NOT rights and , most states you're required to pass tests , again you're speaking on a subject you're completely ignorant about.
Thanks for answering my questions BTW Tim
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Should also license gays, have them tested and insured to make sure they don't pass on any infectious, harmful diseases.
Straights too. Lots of infectious diseases there. Straight men should probably take classes on when no means no. Or perhaps be required to have baby daddy liability insurance.
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I hope his shooting skills are better than his weightlifting skills. :D :D :o :o :o
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Thanks for answering my questions BTW Tim
I don't care which of your guns are which. They're all meant to kill people.
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I don't care which of your guns are which. They're all meant to kill people.
So?
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We're talking about mass shootings, almost all by crazy people using assault rifles. Propose another way to prevent them. No? Just collateral damage so you can have your toy.
How about this: You can have all the weapons of any type you want, as long as you store them and don't ever remove them from the shooting range.
We're talking about mass shootings, almost all by crazy people using assault rifles. Propose another way to prevent them. No? Just collateral damage so you can have your toy.
Almost all? prove that point , don't type it. And try a sight other than Mother Jones.
How about this: You can have all the weapons of any type you want, as long as you store them and don't ever remove them from the shooting range.
You don't decide anything on this subject , You've proven yourself ignorant as they come. How about I have all the weapons I want and you mind your fucking business? What I own is none of your business just like what you do in the privacy in your bedroom is none of mine.
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Cars are well regulated, require safety features. Operators are required to pass tests, have liability insurance. Let's do the same for guns.
Gun are regulated and require safety features too.
Operators, ccl carriers, are required pass test and carry Id and license too.
And you didn't answer the question.
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I don't care which of your guns are which. They're all meant to kill people.
Guns are meant to kill people absolutely , and it's part of the reason I own them , to protect myself and my family , no other weapon I would rather have if I was forced to kill someone. Guns are like abortions , don't want one , don't get one , but FUCK YOU to tell me what I can and can't have.
Tim the whole point is , you're calling for a ban that would do absolutely NOTHING to prevent a mass shooting , you don't even know what you're calling for. I've read your posts of the years and you seem like an intelligent well thought out guy but fuck me ( poor choice of words ) you're just totally clueless on what you're asking for.
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Gun are regulated and require safety features too.
Operators, ccl carriers, are required pass test and carry Id and license too.
And you didn't answer the question.
tim is busy looking for his rebuttal from jezebel or slate.
He'll be back in a few minutes.
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I don't care which of your guns are which. They're all meant to kill people.
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You don't decide anything on this subject , You've proven yourself ignorant as they come. How about I have all the weapons I want and you mind your fucking business? What I own is none of your business just like what you do in the privacy in your bedroom is none of mine.
I have my opinion: there is no place for assault weapons in a civilized society. But I know banning all guns is not going to happen. Other countries have regulations of one sort or another, and don't have the mass shootings we do. We can do something about this problem.
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tim is busy looking for his rebuttal from jezebel or slate.
He'll be back in a few minutes.
Lol
I thought he was more mediatakeout?
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Lol
I thought he was more mediatakeout?
He "dabbles" in such things
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I have my opinion: there is no place for assault weapons in a civilized society. But I know banning all guns is not going to happen. Other countries have regulations of one sort or another, and don't have the mass shootings we do. We can do something about this problem.
Yes your " opinion " is monumentally ignorant. You don't get to decide on if there is a place in civilized society for " assault weapons " there are MILLIONS of them already , and almost none of the murders done with them. We have regulations BTW more ignorance on your part.
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Lolz let's ban them , 3 " Assault Weapons Ban " rifles and one pre-ban. This will prevent " mass shootings "
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You want to see the true carnage of half a billion guns in the hands of a hundred million patriots? Please, please "ban guns". I'm begging you. Do it, fags. Let's see what you've really got. Let's get it the fuck on.
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Lolz let's ban them , 3 " Assault Weapons Ban " rifles and one pre-ban. This will prevent " mass shootings "
Man, those look scary!!! I wouldn't step within 56 feet of one of those weapons!!
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We have regulations BTW more ignorance on your part.
Yet there are 100 times more mass shootings in the US than in any other country. Propose a solution. Or just state that it's collateral damage we have to live with for you to own your toys.
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Man, those look scary!!! I wouldn't step within 56 feet of one of those weapons!!
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Tim allow me to teach you the difference between Pre-ban ( Pre Assault Weapons Ban 1994 ) and Post Ban. Here's what a bunch of ignorant morons like you decided they wanted to ban from the AR15 in 1994
Flash hider - No AR15 in an " Assault Weapons Ban " configuration can have a flash hider , they can have muzzle brakes though , does this make the rifle any less lethal? NO
Bayonet lug - Yes alas you can't attach a bayonet to your AR15 post ban :( :'( because before the ban the was an apparent rash of people killing other people via bayonets ??? ::)
Collapsible butt stocks - ??? Does this reduce the rifles effectiveness? lol Their rational was they could make the rifle " concealable " LMAO I shit you not :-X
At the same time they banned magazines over 10 rounds , however millions and millions of pre-ban 30 round magazines were made from the early 60s on so they're in abundance and cheap ( relatively speaking ) and that's it. Some states have slightly different " bans " like Cali and the absurd " bullet button " but that's the gist of it
The " Assault Weapons Ban " NEVER completely banned the rifle , just cosmetic features , the rate of fire is EXACTLY the same , it accomplished NOTHING and another new " ban " would do the same. We had people like you before making up these arbitrary rules based on fear and ignorance , maybe now you can grasp why law abiding citizens scoff at a new ban and people of your ilk deciding what we need and what we don't.
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Yet there are 100 times more mass shootings in the US than in any other country. Propose a solution. Or just state that it's collateral damage we have to live with for you to own your toys.
Your stat is false. But if it were true, they are all collateral damage we have to live with to be free.
But, please, PLEASE ban guns. I do want to get this civil war over with. It should only take us a couple of weeks to mop you useless fools up.
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Yet there are 100 times more mass shootings in the US than in any other country. Propose a solution. Or just state that it's collateral damage we have to live with for you to own your toys.
Tim , there is NO " solution " you just want to change the tools the killers will use. What will be your excuse then? Okay no more " mass shootings " but mass bombings , congrats Tim.
Stop projecting as well , I don't view guns as " toys " I view them as tools and they come with a great responsibility.
You're exactly like those Evangelical Christian Bigots Tim that use to label all gay men as pedophiles who will molest your children , They did so out of fear & ignorance and lumped all gay men in with those monsters , Now you're lumping every law abiding citizen in with these monsters , congrats Tim. You're almost as bigoted as they are.
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I have my opinion: there is no place for assault weapons in a civilized society. But I know banning all guns is not going to happen. Other countries have regulations of one sort or another, and don't have the mass shootings we do. We can do something about this problem.
Can you define what exactly an assault weapon is?
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Tim , there is NO " solution " you just want to change the tools the killers will use. What will be your excuse then? Okay no more " mass shootings " but mass bombings , congrats Tim.
Stop projecting as well , I don't view guns as " toys " I view them as tools and they come with a great responsibility.
You're exactly like those Evangelical Christian Bigots Tim that use to label all gay men as pedophiles who will molest your children , They did so out of fear & ignorance and lumped all gay men in with those monsters , Now you're lumping every law abiding citizen in with these monsters , congrats Tim. You're almost as bigoted as they are.
The guy uses his regressive leftist beliefs in the same manner.
There really is very little difference between the two.
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The guy uses his regressive leftist beliefs in the same manner.
There really is very little difference between the two.
Funny that a guy that fights for his "right" to marry another man wants so vehemently to strip others of their rights.
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The guy uses his regressive leftist beliefs in the same manner.
There really is very little difference between the two.
Absolutely , cut from the same cloth. Guns are like abortions , don't want one , don't get one. Fuck you telling me I can't have one. Try and take away their right to choose LMAO
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Tim , there is NO " solution " you just want to change the tools the killers will use. What will be your excuse then? Okay no more " mass shootings " but mass bombings , congrats Tim.
I'm saying nothing about the people who enjoy owning assault weapons. I'm saying these machines are falling into the hands of people who should not have access to them, mentally disturbed people. This guy was a nut case. The last one was a nut case. The one before was, the one before that. (there has not been a terrorist attack on US soil by a foreign nationalist since 9/11)
Bombs are already illegal to own. So are air to air missiles, bazookas, hand grenades, sarin gas, etc. You agree that some weapons can be banned. The only disagreement we have is where to draw the line. (Note that every time I specify assault weapon (for me, that would be any weapon that can fire off dozens of rounds in a few seconds), you say gun, as if I'm saying we should try now to ban hand guns. I am not.)
Bombs are hard to make. You try to buy the materials, odds are you'll get a visit from law enforcement. Assault weapons are easy to get. Crazy people seem to be able to get buy them legally left and right. It would probably be pretty for a crazy person to get the materials to make a bomb without the authorities finding him first.
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You want to see the true carnage of half a billion guns in the hands of a hundred million patriots? Please, please "ban guns". I'm begging you. Do it, fags. Let's see what you've really got. Let's get it the fuck on.
That's the thing , they want to ban guns to end gun violence and then they need guys with guns to do the violence on their behalf. Their solution creates a bigger mess than ever.
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Funny that a guy that fights for his "right" to marry another man wants so vehemently to strip others of their rights.
They are tyrannical radicals no different than the supposed boogeyman christians they criticize(because god forbid you would ever criticize a muslim, despite the stonings, death by burnings, throwing off buildings, mass executions etc etc).
The great thing about modern day and the internet is we can all have a good hearty laugh and mock their dogmatic stupidity.
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Lol, It's a fucked up world we live in right now.
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(Note that every time I specify assault weapon (for me, that would be any weapon that can fire off dozens of rounds in a few seconds), you say gun, as if I'm saying we should try now to ban hand guns. I am not.)
The issue is Tim you seriously are ignorant about guns. You say that you don't want to ban hand guns but you also say you want to ban any weapon that can fire off dozens of rounds in a second.
A semi automatic hand gun is going to fire as many rounds a second as a semi automatic rifle.
You don't even understand what you're saying
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I'm saying nothing about the people who enjoy owning assault weapons. I'm saying these machines are falling into the hands of people who should not have access to them, mentally disturbed people. This guy was a nut case. The last one was a nut case. The one before was, the one before that. (there has not been a terrorist attack on US soil by a foreign nationalist since 9/11)
Bombs are already illegal to own. So are air to air missiles, bazookas, hand grenades, sarin gas, etc. You agree that some weapons can be banned. The only disagreement we have is where to draw the line. (Note that every time I specify assault weapon (for me, that would be any weapon that can fire off dozens of rounds in a few seconds), you say gun, as if I'm saying we should try now to ban hand guns. I am not.)
Bombs are hard to make. You try to buy the materials, odds are you'll get a visit from law enforcement. Assault weapons are easy to get. Crazy people seem to be able to get buy them legally left and right. It would probably be pretty for a crazy person to get the materials to make a bomb without the authorities finding him first.
I'm saying nothing about the people who enjoy owning assault weapons. I'm saying these machines are falling into the hands of people who should not have access to them, mentally disturbed people. This guy was a nut case. The last one was a nut case. The one before was, the one before that. (there has not been a terrorist attack on US soil by a foreign nationalist since 9/11)
I agree anyone who can murder people indiscriminately is mentally ill. How do we prevent them from getting legal weapons? That's the dilemma. Improved mental health screening? How would that work out with HIPAA laws? Convict people of thought crimes? And Tim you called for another Assault Weapons Ban so you did say something about people who enjoy owning them.
Bombs are already illegal to own. So are air to air missiles, bazookas, hand grenades, sarin gas, etc. You agree that some weapons can be banned. The only disagreement we have is where to draw the line. (Note that every time I specify assault weapon (for me, that would be any weapon that can fire off dozens of rounds in a few seconds), you say gun, as if I'm saying we should try now to ban hand guns. I am not.)
Tim hand guns can fire off dozens or rounds in a few seconds. Note picture 33 round Glock magazine fits in any Glock 9MM pistol
Bombs are hard to make. You try to buy the materials, odds are you'll get a visit from law enforcement. Assault weapons are easy to get. Crazy people seem to be able to get buy them legally left and right. It would probably be pretty for a crazy person to get the materials to make a bomb without the authorities finding him first.
Actually they're not. Most households already have most of the ingredients to make them. Tim McVeigh :-\
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Funny that a guy that fights for his "right" to marry another man wants so vehemently to strip others of their rights.
I find this accurate.
The 2nd amendment is a law that was specifically put in place to stop tyranny... Including tyranny keeping adults from marrying the other adult that they choose.
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Actually they're not. Most households already have most of the ingredients to make them. Tim McVeigh :-\
Sorry. It took weeks of planning (and probably a lot of help) for Timothy McVeigh to fill the back of a rental van with fertilizer
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Man, those look scary!!! I wouldn't step within 56 feet of one of those weapons!!
Not sure if serious.
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hmm so where are all you guys with guns rising up against tyranny?
or are we considered tyranny free at the present time?
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Sorry. It took weeks of planning (and probably a lot of help) for Timothy McVeigh to fill the back of a rental van with fertilizer
Guess that makes the families of those he killed feel better, "at least it wasn't a spur of the moment killing!!!"
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hmm so where are all you guys with guns rising up against tyranny?
or are we considered tyranny free at the present time?
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I heard, but do not quote me on this, that Branch Warren is rounding up a bunch of weightlifters and getbiggers (notice how I don't consider getbiggers to be people who actually lift weights, hence not lumping them in with weightlifters), in order to form an army that will fight tyranny. They are ready.
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hmm so where are all you guys with guns rising up against tyranny?
or are we considered tyranny free at the present time?
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Government is slow to attempt to over reach specifically because of the guns.
Tyranny free? Sure. You can say that if it helps you understand.
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Any Europeans posting here should just stop, you never know the constitutional freedom of being able to defend yourself. How did that gun control work in France again?
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hmm so where are all you guys with guns rising up against tyranny?
or are we considered tyranny free at the present time?
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Have you seen the extent of the militarization of the police here? Rising up against that will have to be an orange revolution
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Any Europeans posting here should just stop, you never know the constitutional freedom of being able to defend yourself. How did that gun control work in France again?
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Any Europeans posting here should just stop, you never know the constitutional freedom of being able to defend yourself. How did that gun control work in France again?
So, two people from different countries cannot engage in a debate with each other? ??? ??? If someone can come up with an intellectual, well-thought out argument, it doesn't matter if they live in Europe. Facts are fact, no matter where they come from. You either have a strong argument or you don't, independent of your geographical location. You're using emotions such as "You don't understand" or "You're not American." Again, if the argument is well laid out and the facts are strong, who cares where it comes from. ??? ??? The argument should be able to "stand on its own two feet" no matter who is stating it. That's all the matters. If it doesn't, it should be discarded, and a new hypothesis should be generated.
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So, two people from different countries cannot engage in a debate with each other? ??? ??? If someone can come up with an intellectual, well-thought out argument, it doesn't matter if they live in Europe. Facts are fact, no matter where they come from. You either have a strong argument or you don't, independent of your geographical location. You're using emotions such as "You don't understand" or "You're not American." Again, if the argument is well laid out and the facts are strong, who cares where it comes from. ??? ??? The argument should be able to "stand on its own two feet" no matter who is stating it. That's all the matters. If it doesn't, it should be discarded, and a new hypothesis should be generated.
We shouldn't take opinions seriously from others who are completely destroying their countries with mass immigration and Orwellian laws. If they had their shit together maybe they would be worth listening to.
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We shouldn't take opinions seriously from others who are completely destroying their countries with mass immigration and Orwellian laws. If they had their shit together maybe they would be worth listening to.
Logical Fallacy. You're diverting attention away from the topic. Mass immigration and gun ownership/control MAY be related topics in some shape or form, but they are also mutually exclusive topics. You can be an expert on gun ownership, and know nothing about immigration and vice versa.
Again, the argument/debate (whatever you want to call it), is either supported by strong facts or data or its not. If it's not, it should be discarded, no matter who it comes from. A critical, rationale mind doesn't automatically discard an argument because the person happens to be from Europe. That is just immature and silly. Furthermore, there are many people from Europe and other countries who visit and study in the US and take a great interest in our culture. They do not have to actually live here to form an opinion.
For what it's worth, I have no stake in the gun debate. My stance has nothing to do with whether or not Europeans love or hate guns. My sole proposition is that an argument stands on its own two feet based on the evidence, irrespective of where it comes from.
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I have my opinion: there is no place for assault weapons in a civilized society. But I know banning all guns is not going to happen. Other countries have regulations of one sort or another, and don't have the mass shootings we do. We can do something about this problem.
Why all this debate? People who want to ban guns are simply pussies, case closed.
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As a gun owner, I believe stricter gun laws are needed. But this is stupid. So cars kill a shit load of people. Are we banning those now too ?
lets enforce the 1000's of gun laws on the books first
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As a gun owner, I believe stricter gun laws are needed. But this is stupid. So cars kill a shit load of people. Are we banning those now too ?
You have guns and GUNS. Is life in Texas really that dangerous that you need a weapon like this?
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A petition already has been started.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/ban-ar-15-civilian-ownership
Guns in America is a complicated issue for many reasons. However, the AR-15 is the weapon of choice for Domestic Terrorists and others who wish to kill and harm people quickly and efficiently. It serves no other purpose other than to accomplish this. Banning this gun will show that we can act on this issue. It will have symbolic weight while also making one small step forward on dealing with this epidemic.
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http://www.salon.com/2016/06/13/nobody_needs_an_ar_15_the_orlando_massacre_teaches_us_again_that_we_must_ban_semi_automatic_human_killing_machines/
Nobody needs an AR-15: The Orlando massacre teaches us (again) that we must ban semi-automatic human killing machines. Do it now: Congress must ban military-style weapons and make it harder for terrorists to act on their hate
We’ve had yet another horrific mass shooting. In fact, it’s the worst mass shooting in American history. More than fifty people were killed and many more wounded in a nightclub that catered to gay people in Orlando Florida. At the moment I’m writing this, what we know is that these murders were carried out by an American Muslim by the name of Omar Mateen, the son of Afghan immigrants who was born in New York 29 years ago. We know that he called 911 during the killing and reportedly pledged allegiance to ISIS and mentioned the Tsarnaev brothers (who were not ISIS, for what it’s worth). We know the FBI had been aware of some radical connections and jihadist “leanings” and had interviewed him in the past. His father reported that he was an angry homophobe. His ex-wife said he was a violent domestic abuser who was mentally unstable. He was a hate-filled, violent piece of work.
Just exactly how you will ban them from the illegal markets? All you ever can do, is ban the guns of the law abiding citizens, because for criminals, terrorists etc. law doesn't mean anything. This is the main point in all gun ban/gun law dilemma. What do you benefit if you take a guns from the people who use them to uphold the laws? Depending the source, in the USA guns are used in self defend up to 2000 000 times per year, but the gun is fired only ~1500 times, and from those 1500 times only 20% of these cases it mean a lost of life. This statistic is only where your gun ban would make a difference, but only to worse. And what makes you think that bad people will give their guns away? If you want to make an example, why don't you seek out the clubhouse of local hells angels and go there to ask if they would give their guns to you? Make sure that you get someone to shoot a video from that meeting, and ask if your folks put it in the YouTube after your funerals ;D
What the good people of USA should do, is simple:
1. Allow guns to any adult citizen, but only if he passes through the background check.
2. If the citizen has a criminal record from something else than speeding, don't allow him to have a gun.
3. Shoot all of them, who don't have a gun.
This is only way to fix the current situation, because any libtard nonsense doesn't work at all.
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Just exactly how you will ban them from the illegal markets? All you ever can do, is ban the guns of the law abiding citizens, because for criminals, terrorists etc. law doesn't mean anything. This is the main point in all gun ban/gun law dilemma. What do you benefit if you take a guns from the people who use them to uphold the laws? Depending the source, in the USA guns are used in self defend up to 2000 000 times per year, but the gun is fired only ~1500 times, and from those 1500 times only 20% of these cases it mean a lost of life. This statistic is only where your gun ban would make a difference, but only to worse. And what makes you think that bad people will give their guns away? If you want to make an example, why don't you seek out the clubhouse of local hells angels and go there to ask if they would give their guns to you? Make sure that you get someone to shoot a video from that meeting, and ask if your folks put it in the YouTube after your funerals ;D
What the good people of USA should do, is simple:
1. Allow guns for any adult citizen, but only if he passes through the background check.
2. If the citizen has a criminal record from something else than speeding, don't allow him to have a gun.
3. Shoot all of them, who don't have a gun.
This is only way to fix the current situation, because any libtard nonsense doesn't work at all.
Why are you asking me how guns will be banned from the illegal market? ??? ??? All I did was post the stories. People are free to make whatever they like of them.
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All the people who didn't have an opinion about guns before this past weekend and are crying about it now will go back to not caring and their regularly scheduled narcissist instagramming and snapchatting shortly. The phony self righteousness makes me sick.
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All this does is take guns out of the hands of people who obey laws. People who obey laws don't go around shooting up places and killing people. Crazy people do.
The cops and the crooks and the terrorists will all continue to be well armed. Meanwhile, the average citizen will completely at their mercy.
This shit has nothing to do with mass shootings. Certain people have wanted guns to be banned for a long time. They see this gay club shooting as an opportunity to sway the average idiot to agree with them.
FUCK. THAT. SHIT.
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It is too late for the US, you guys just need to accept your losses. There is no other way of looking at it logically. There is the political viewpoint which must always "suggest" action, but the cold truth is this, when you have 300 million guns in a country that big and you can buy ammo at your local sportstore, you have precisely zero chance of stopping this from happening on occasion.
It will happen, end of story.
All you can do is carry, yourself and maybe you might save someone.
But all in all, more carries probably means more gun deaths, so.. vicious circle :)
I'd carry if I were in the US. That'd be my response to this. Not "ban guns" - too late for that, too many people feel entitled to it and too hard to pull it off anyway.
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Don't give in - fight for your right to have some real firepower.
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Don't give in - fight for your right to have some real firepower.
Don't worry.
The popular meme is "if I had 18 guns and Hillary banned 12 of them, how many would I have? That's right, 18!"
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Yet there are 100 times more mass shootings in the US than in any other country. Propose a solution. Or just state that it's collateral damage we have to live with for you to own your toys.
There is no solution.
Radicals and lunatics are some of the most inventive people on this planet, because they have nothing else to do but achieve whatever it is they set their mind to. It's why people 'some how' manage to acquire guns in supposedly 'gun-free' countries, and why incidents such as 9/11, Brussels, Paris, etc. took place.
How many tons of cocaine are found every month? How many tons of chemicals for other drugs? How many tons of weapons? How many illegal immigrants? How many human traffickers? How many endangered species? How many acres of forest are illegally cut down? How much chemical waste dumped?
You're being a dumb fuck for focussing on the rights of citizens, thinking you're going to impact the black market or the intent of deranged individuals and groupings.
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You want to see the true carnage of half a billion guns in the hands of a hundred million patriots? Please, please "ban guns". I'm begging you. Do it, fags. Let's see what you've really got. Let's get it the fuck on.
oh boy, AJs posts are almost as cringe worthy as Coach
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ur kidding right????
do people go and buy a car with the intent of killing as many people as they can with it? smh
does everyone that buy an AR-15 go and kill 49 people? But to answer you, yes, wasnt there a chick in las vegas who on purpose ran her car into the sidewalk a few months ago?(found the link: http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/21/us/las-vegas-strip-pedestrians-hit/)
So what now? ban cars?
the problem isnt guns, cars, knoves, bats etc, the problem is people. You can buy rat poison to kill rats, or you can buy it to drug a person and kill them. You can buy blach to wash your tighty whities, or you can buy bleach and force it down the throt of a child as torture (happened a few years ago)...the list goes on and on.
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oh boy, AJs posts are almost as cringe worthy as Coach
Ok genius. You want to have an actual debate on guns here in the open? Your move.
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Sorry. It took weeks of planning (and probably a lot of help) for Timothy McVeigh to fill the back of a rental van with fertilizer
I find it very telling that's the only thing you choose to respond to. And your comment is totally irrelevant. Mass destruction can and will happen without firearms. People are more likely to be beaten to death with hands & fists than to ever be shot with an AR15
facts are facts. Any " ban " on firearms will be symbolic and will do absolutely NOTHING to prevent mass shootings and stem the tide of gun violence.
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every single person who is pro-gun rights, the 2nd amendment.... personally i think the issue is that EVERYONE, i repeat EVERYONE thinks they are quote "normal".. and "i would never do bad stuff, hurt anyone, kill anyone" and so on..
well obviously NOT EVERYONE IS NORMAL! it's like driving... if you asked 10, 100, 1000, 10,000, 100,000 and so on "every single person, every single one of them says "yeah, no one knows how to drive!' well OBVIOUSLY not all of them can be right! obviously some of the people who say this are indeed THE ONES THAT DON"T KNOW HOW TO DRIVE! now do they not know this about themselves is the question or they do know this but are narcissist with issues...
that's my analogy with gun owners.... all we ever hear about is the mass shootings, but their are literally shots fired, murders every single day.... random killings, parents killed, children killed, husbands killed, wives killed, boyfriend and girlfriend and so on... were all those gun owners because they were quote "law abiding" also quote "normal with rational behavior?" i don't think so....
course, how does one regulate people and their behavior? and say you are "normal" and you can buy a gun and you sir or madam are NOT "normal" and i will not sell you a gun? huge infringement rights on others it would be, even though it is true and would be needed....
psych evaluations should be done for all gun owners..... and more emphasis on the black market selling and trading of guns, destroying these illegal guns, stopping that business, no selling of anyone on the watch list of any watch list and other factors should ALL be used to stem this tide...
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but mass shooting are continuing and increasing
What definition of "mass shooting" are you using?
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every single person who is pro-gun rights, the 2nd amendment.... personally i think the issue is that EVERYONE, i repeat EVERYONE thinks they are quote "normal".. and "i would never do bad stuff, hurt anyone, kill anyone" and so on..
well obviously NOT EVERYONE IS NORMAL! it's like driving... if you asked 10, 100, 1000, 10,000, 100,000 and so on "every single person, every single one of them says "yeah, no one knows how to drive!' well OBVIOUSLY not all of them can be right! obviously some of the people who say this are indeed THE ONES THAT DON"T KNOW HOW TO DRIVE! now do they not know this about themselves is the question or they do know this but are narcissist with issues...
that's my analogy with gun owners.... all we ever hear about is the mass shootings, but their are literally shots fired, murders every single day.... random killings, parents killed, children killed, husbands killed, wives killed, boyfriend and girlfriend and so on... were all those gun owners because they were quote "law abiding" also quote "normal with rational behavior?" i don't think so....
course, how does one regulate people and their behavior? and say you are "normal" and you can buy a gun and you sir or madam are NOT "normal" and i will not sell you a gun? huge infringement rights on others it would be, even though it is true and would be needed....
psych evaluations should be done for all gun owners..... and more emphasis on the black market selling and trading of guns, destroying these illegal guns, stopping that business, no selling of anyone on the watch list of any watch list and other factors should ALL be used to stem this tide...
All those words just to prove that you are a retard.
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Why would a man want to ban guns. It's in our DNA to cherish the right to protect ourselves and our families. You have more chance of getting struck by lightening then getting caught up in a mass shooting. I've never left my house and felt scared I was going to be shot and I live in the South everyone owns a gun. It should make men sick to think of having this right stripped. Liberal men act just like women. God I hate liberals whiney pussies.
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Banning guns all boils down to weakness. Scared fearful little mice. Stand up and be a man. Don't be scared of a piece of metal. Please understand the Riddle of Steel. Have you not watched Conan at least 5 times?
Seriously, arguing with obvious trolls and morons over the Internet, what is the point? They aren't trying to understand, just get a rise.
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The Orlando shooter didn't use an AR-15. He used a Sig Sauer MCX.
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The Orlando shooter didn't use an AR-15. He used a Sig Sauer MCX.
Which shares no parts with an AR-15. It kinda sorta looks like an AR-15, but it isn't one.
Regardless, nuts and bad guys will always be able to get guns. The only people that gun laws affect are regular citizens.
The cops, the crooks, the nuts, and the Jihadists will continue to be armed to the teeth. Thus, regular citizens will be severely out-gunned and completely at their mercy.
This is not acceptable to me.
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You have guns and GUNS. Is life in Texas really that dangerous that you need a weapon like this?
The world is dangerous, anybody that thinks it isn't is either native or stupid.
But, to answer your patronizing question, it depends were you live in Texas. Texas is a big place.
The border areas are literally the Wild West. Houston and Jacksonville is fucked with crime, go down the wrong street you might end up dead. Kind of like Japan. ;D
Austin is great, if you stay out of the east side "barrio". Oh, and 6th st is party city, full of college drunks so fights and thief happen. The biggest threat is Austin is the shitty drivers, the hit bikes and people all the time. I never conceal carry in Austin. My job requires me to travel sometimes so I Only Conceal carry when I travel now.
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The world is dangerous, anybody that thinks it isn't is either native or stupid.
But, to answer your patronizing question, it depends were you live in Texas. Texas is a big place.
The border areas are literally the Wild West. Houston and Jacksonville is fucked with crime, go down the wrong street you might end up dead. Kind of like Japan. ;D
Austin is great, if you stay out of the east side "barrio". Oh, and 6th st is party city, full of college drunks so fights and thief happen. The biggest threat is Austin is the shitty drivers, the hit bikes and people all the time. I never conceal carry in Austin. My job requires me to travel sometimes so I Only Conceal carry when I travel now.
So when in Houston best bring an AR-15?
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GOD bless the AR-15, saved my ass MANY MANY times in 2 deployments!!!!
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GOOD way to cut down a counterattack!!
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http://assaultweapontruth.com/
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I like when the uninformed liberals try to compare the U.S. to Iceland.
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GOD bless the AR-15, saved my ass MANY MANY times in 2 deployments!!!!
You're not being deployed in Florida
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Should also license gays, have them tested and insured to make sure they don't pass on any infectious, harmful diseases.
well up until 3 days ago they couldnt donate blood,so they kinda already have
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Which shares no parts with an AR-15. It kinda sorta looks like an AR-15, but it isn't one.
Regardless, nuts and bad guys will always be able to get guns. The only people that gun laws affect are regular citizens.
The cops, the crooks, the nuts, and the Jihadists will continue to be armed to the teeth. Thus, regular citizens will be severely out-gunned and completely at their mercy.
This is not acceptable to me.
this guy was a regular citizen, so was the sandy hook killer. they didnt use black market guns
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Reminds me when the government went in to a home in flordia to deport a 5yr old boy
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/151012155050-01-elian-gonzalez-rewind-restricted-super-169.jpg)
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lol
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Reminds me when the government went in to a home in flordia to deport a 5yr old boy
Or to rescue him at the request of his father.
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Or to rescue him at the request of his father.
i wonder what even happening to him? ???
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You're not being deployed in Florida
Stupid kunt both of you
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GOD bless the AR-15, saved my ass MANY MANY times in 2 deployments!!!!
...and God bless you brother.
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Ok genius. You want to have an actual debate on guns here in the open? Your move.
well considering im a gun owner who is fine with responsible ownership even of "assault" rifles, not sure what you want me to say? your posts are cringe worthy, angry old man neo-con talking points full of silly taunts and threats like "lets see u take my guns" and other bullshit. just tacky kind of. What else can I say? just my opinion of your coach-style delivery.
Your also a christian from what I can gather, so delusion is part of life for you. debating someone who has religion behind them is almost impossible so why bother. we also AGREE that guns are not the problem, so yeah...nothing more to say really
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i wonder what even happening to him? ???
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3086357/Elian-Gonzalez-thanks-American-people-says-d-love-visit-happy-21-year-old-Cuba.html
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Although the .223 caliber AR15 is a potent weapon, the power of the cartridge pales in comparison to the .308 caliber military rifles and most common hunting rifles. Still, at close range they are very lethal. A small yet fast projectile with a significant yaw causes unique damage to the body. Not alot of recoil either. I don't know what the answer is to these mass shootings. Personally, I have a Kimber Ultra Carry II in .45 acp. It will do the job for personal defense.
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Stupid kunt both of you
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Although the .223 caliber AR15 is a potent weapon, the power of the cartridge pales in comparison to the .308 caliber military rifles and most common hunting rifles. Still, at close range they are very lethal. A small yet fast projectile with a significant yaw causes unique damage to the body. Not alot of recoil either. I don't know what the answer is to these mass shootings. Personally, I have a Kimber Ultra Carry II in .45 acp. It will do the job for personal defense.
I always get confused when anti-gun folks carry on about "high powered", "semi-automatic" AR-15s.
The bullets fired from these ARs are relatively small and not especially powerful. Also, they only come out of the barrel at a rate of 1 per trigger pull. I think when pussies, uh, I mean, anti-gun people see this...
(http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/24wikia/images/5/5d/M4Carbine.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140210004151)
They are imagining this....
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They really don't know what the hell they are talking about.
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As pointed out about a million times, the weapon used was not an AR 15. These retards in the media along with the retards in Congress can't seem to figure out what they want to ban. You're gonna tell me they're gonna get a watch list right. Sorry dude but "shall not be infringed" means just that.
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She's just as ignorant as you are. First he didn't use an AR15 , Second the vast majority of " mass shootings " ( 4 or more victims ) are done with pistols. Third there is NO ban of " Assault weapons " only cosmetic features of them. A reinstatement of a ban would have NOT prevented a " Assault Weapons Ban " configured AR15 from being used exactly as one used in any mass shooting. They still fire the exact same round , at the exact same velocity with the exact same capacity.
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I always get confused when anti-gun folks carry on about "high powered", "semi-automatic" AR-15s.
The bullets fired from these ARs are relatively small and not especially powerful. Also, they only come out of the barrel at a rate of 1 per trigger pull. I think when pussies, uh, I mean, anti-gun people see this...
(http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/24wikia/images/5/5d/M4Carbine.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140210004151)
They are imagining this....
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/1da71177f7d367ce4c9b59d89f0b8e10/tumblr_n4fsllRtgE1qcga5ro1_500.gif)
They really don't know what the hell they are talking about.
I'd like the high powered AR15 as opposed to the regular powered ones I have but I can't seem to find them.
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As pointed out about a million times, the weapon used was not an AR 15. These retards in the media along with the retards in Congress can't seem to figure out what they want to ban. You're gonna tell me they're gonna get a watch list right. Sorry dude but "shall not be infringed" means just that.
verb in·fringe \in-ˈfrinj\
Simple Definition of infringe
: to do something that does not obey or follow (a rule, law, etc.) ( chiefly US )
: to wrongly limit or restrict (something, such as another person's rights)
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She's just as ignorant as you are. First he didn't use an AR15 , Second the vast majority of " mass shootings " ( 4 or more victims ) are done with pistols. Third there is NO ban of " Assault weapons " only cosmetic features of them. A reinstatement of a ban would have NOT prevented a " Assault Weapons Ban " configured AR15 from being used exactly as one used in any mass shooting. They still fire the exact same round , at the exact same velocity with the exact same capacity.
I can change mags on my various pistols faster then my AR's...waaaaay faster, even with a chest rig. Maybe its practice but still way faster. These idiots on the left have no friggen idea about what they're talking about
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From a Federalist article today
Are you ready for a mind-blowing statistic? In 2014, you were six times more likely to be murdered with a knife than you were with a rifle. Knives were the weapon of choice in 1,567 murders in 2014, according to the FBI. It gets crazier. You were also nearly three times more likely to be killed by someone’s fists or feet than you were to be murdered with a rifle. In 2014, 660 people were murdered with what the FBI calls “personal weapons”–hands, fists, feet–compared to 248 with rifles.
In the United States, knives are more deadly than rifles. So are fists. And feet. This is not my opinion. It is an incontrovertible fact. And it’s a fact that highlights a point that far too many people refuse to acknowledge: the human desire to kill is far more deadly than any weapon. Weapons do not of their own volition and agency decide to kill people. That requires human intervention. Humans hell-bent on death and destruction will get their hands on whatever tools they need to wreak their desired havoc. Restricting the use of those tools by innocent people who only want to protect themselves and their families is delusional madness.
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I'd like the high powered AR15 as opposed to the regular powered ones I have but I can't seem to find them.
My AR15 must be broken. It just sits there in the safe until I pic it up. It's never shot or attacked anyone. It never logs onto twitter and posts hateful rants.
It never gets drunk, or sad, or angry. It doesn't do anything. Never moves, never does anything on it's own. I think I'm gonna bring it back and get a refund.
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From a Federalist article today
Are you ready for a mind-blowing statistic? In 2014, you were six times more likely to be murdered with a knife than you were with a rifle. Knives were the weapon of choice in 1,567 murders in 2014, according to the FBI. It gets crazier. You were also nearly three times more likely to be killed by someone’s fists or feet than you were to be murdered with a rifle. In 2014, 660 people were murdered with what the FBI calls “personal weapons”–hands, fists, feet–compared to 248 with rifles.
In the United States, knives are more deadly than rifles. So are fists. And feet. This is not my opinion. It is an incontrovertible fact. And it’s a fact that highlights a point that far too many people refuse to acknowledge: the human desire to kill is far more deadly than any weapon. Weapons do not of their own volition and agency decide to kill people. That requires human intervention. Humans hell-bent on death and destruction will get their hands on whatever tools they need to wreak their desired havoc. Restricting the use of those tools by innocent people who only want to protect themselves and their families is delusional madness.
These fucking morons absolutely CAN NOT argue facts , but they don't care about facts. It's a trend and people will follow that trend regardless. AR15s have been demonized and people will just recycle the rhetoric anyway.
These people are such cowards they can't admit they're ignorant and wrong. No integrity whatsoever. So comfortable in their sanctimonious cloak of ignorance.
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I will say this...everytime this happens I buy more ammo. I used to try and get 500-1000 rds a month but I bought a bike and HD gets all my extra cash now. I guess I better grab some. They said gun company stocks soared Monday. Listening to Obama blather on about "glocks with lots of clips in them" and all the other shit the left spews used to make me angry..now I'm nervous. Congress is full of shitheads who roll over rather then take a stand on anything.
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She's just as ignorant as you are. First he didn't use an AR15 , Second the vast majority of " mass shootings " ( 4 or more victims ) are done with pistols. Third there is NO ban of " Assault weapons " only cosmetic features of them. A reinstatement of a ban would have NOT prevented a " Assault Weapons Ban " configured AR15 from being used exactly as one used in any mass shooting. They still fire the exact same round , at the exact same velocity with the exact same capacity.
Some points made in these videos
- should people who are on the No Fly List be allowed to buy weapons?
- there is a 3 day waiting period in Florida for buying a hand gun, but not for guns that require two hands to hold. Should there be?
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Some points made in these videos
- should people who are on the No Fly List be allowed to buy weapons?
- there is a 3 day waiting period in Florida for buying a hand gun, but not for guns that require two hands to hold. Should there be?
should people who are on the No Fly List be allowed to buy weapons?
If no laws were broken beforehand then yes , you can't convict people of thought crimes. I recall after 9/11 a U.S citizen was blackbagged shipped to Gitmo and held there for 3 fucking years without ever being able to see his family or being able to talk to a lawyer , come to find out he wasn't one of the bad guys Opppsss .Gov " our bad " Who is on these " lists " how do they get on these " lists "?
- there is a 3 day waiting period in Florida for buying a hand gun, but not for guns that require two hands to hold. Should there be?
Arbitrary and irrelevant , He could have just bought 2 Glock 17s with 33 round magazines and killed just as many.
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My AR15 must be broken. It just sits there in the safe until I pic it up. It's never shot or attacked anyone. It never logs onto twitter and posts hateful rants.
It never gets drunk, or sad, or angry. It doesn't do anything. Never moves, never does anything on it's own. I think I'm gonna bring it back and get a refund.
Was thinking the same thing about my guns. They just sit there doing nothing. I thought they were supposed to just randomly start shooting me. I confuse. ???
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Some points made in these videos
- should people who are on the No Fly List be allowed to buy weapons?
- there is a 3 day waiting period in Florida for buying a hand gun, but not for guns that require two hands to hold. Should there be?
You can't strip someone's constitutional rights without due process.
Here is my question for you Tim, are you ok with restricting the first ammendment? This last guy, the couple in San bernidino, fort hood all were radicalized with the help of the Internet. Are you ok with making preaching/talking about radical ideology illegal?
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The world is dangerous, anybody that thinks it isn't is either native or stupid.
But, to answer your patronizing question, it depends were you live in Texas. Texas is a big place.
The border areas are literally the Wild West. Houston and Jacksonville is fucked with crime, go down the wrong street you might end up dead. Kind of like Japan. ;D
Austin is great, if you stay out of the east side "barrio". Oh, and 6th st is party city, full of college drunks so fights and thief happen. The biggest threat is Austin is the shitty drivers, the hit bikes and people all the time. I never conceal carry in Austin. My job requires me to travel sometimes so I Only Conceal carry when I travel now.
So when in Houston best bring an AR-15?
Houston has no fucking zoning which means that it's all pockets. Anywhere in Houston you are never more than a few blocks away from a not so great part of town. I live in one of the best and the richest part of town (rent mind you) and I could be in a pretty crappy part of town in 5 mins
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Was thinking the same thing about my guns. They just sit there doing nothing. I thought they were supposed to just randomly start shooting me. I confuse. ???
For people who pride themselves on " tolerance " and " understanding " they like to associate anyone who owns a similar gun as almost as bad as the lunatics who use them to murder. I get the passive/aggressive jokes " Hey you own these guns don't piss him off hahahahahaha " You become guilty by association
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Ban alcohol
Alcohol-Related Deaths:
• Nearly 88,000 people (approximately 62,000 men and 26,000 women) die from alcohol-related causes annually, making it the fourth leading preventable cause of death in the United States.10
• In 2014, alcohol-impaired driving fatalities accounted for 9,967 deaths (31 percent of overall driving fatalities).11
https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohol-health/overview-alcohol-consumption/alcohol-facts-and-statistics
Ban cigarettes
Cigarette smoking causes about one of every five deaths in the United States each year.1,6 Cigarette smoking is estimated to cause the following:1
•More than 480,000 deaths annually (including deaths from secondhand smoke)
•278,544 deaths annually among men (including deaths from secondhand smoke)
•201,773 deaths annually among women (including deaths from secondhand smoke)
http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/health_effects/tobacco_related_mortality/
Ban guns? LOL
Number of Deaths 13,430
Number of Injuries 27,002
http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/past-tolls
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For people who pride themselves on " tolerance " and " understanding " they like to associate anyone who owns a similar gun as almost as bad as the lunatics who use them to murder. I get the passive/aggressive jokes " Hey you own these guns don't piss him off hahahahahaha " You become guilty by association
Absolutely. I can't think of another Constitutional right that gets stigmatized, mocked, undermined, and constantly attacked like this.
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I will say this...everytime this happens I buy more ammo. I used to try and get 500-1000 rds a month but I bought a bike and HD gets all my extra cash now. I guess I better grab some. They said gun company stocks soared Monday. Listening to Obama blather on about "glocks with lots of clips in them" and all the other shit the left spews used to make me angry..now I'm nervous. Congress is full of shitheads who roll over rather then take a stand on anything.
lol so ur the ones doing that...idiots. never fails; gun shows lines way long, gun stocks soaring, water cooler talks of "bama gonna take our guns", buying up all the ammo, making ak47s go from $250 to 1000 overnight...sigh. News flash son, your always gonna have your guns, as will I. these mass shootings are the BEST thing to ever happen to the gun industry. Your talking points are just as lame as the far left. where the fuck are the moderate minded common sense people? all i see here is right wing wind bags and far left EU types.
thanks to dudes like you, i wont be able to get ammo for my rifle in months and months now. was goin hit up bass pro shops yesterday but said fuck it...all it would be is empty shelves and talking points from the store clerks behind the gun counter, and having to fake laugh at how cringe worthy and idiotic they sound "bama gona take ur gunz better get some ammo" ...um ok, how about ring me up instead moron
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summarizing a bunch of posts above:
I am not for criminalizing hate speech. Most of the people held at Gitmo were not guilty of any crime. Torture is always wrong. The No Fly List is a violation of due process.
The question is how do we prevent bad people from accessing these weapons? Most of the mass shootings in the US have been done by emotionally disturbed young American men. How do we make it harder for them to commit these atrocities ?
There are already restrictions on what type of weapons you can legally own. There are already regulations on what you must do to obtain certain weapons. These restrictions and regulations are not a violation of the 2nd Amendment.
Propose some solutions now. The more mass shootings occur the more the public will want to ban.
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Absolutely. I can't think of another Constitutional right that gets stigmatized, mocked, undermined, and constantly attacked like this.
Like the bible, people disagree on what the 2nd Amendment say. "Arms" does not mean any weapon of any type. "the people" doesn't mean everyone. (we do restrict children and felons)
And what about that no standing army clause? To me the militarization of the police violates that.
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summarizing a bunch of posts above:
There are already restrictions on what type of weapons you can legally own. There are already regulations on what you must do to obtain certain weapons. These restrictions and regulations are not a violation of the 2nd Amendment.
Propose some solutions now. The more mass shootings occur the more the public will want to ban.
Really they are not a violation? What part of "shall not be infringed" allows the government to restrict any type of weapon? The only reason any of this BS stands is because "We the people" allow it, and no one has taken it to court.
The thing that I find odd about these attacks, is everywhere else, they seem to prefer explosives. Suicide bombers, IED's...... But here they choose guns, now before you say easy to get, there is no way a gun is easier to get in the US than asscrackistan. I wonder why that is, maybe because they know that the general American populous is so fucking stupid, that they will beg .gov to take away their constitutional rights.
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summarizing a bunch of posts above:
I am not for criminalizing hate speech. Most of the people held at Gitmo were not guilty of any crime. Torture is always wrong. The No Fly List is a violation of due process.
The question is how do we prevent bad people from accessing these weapons? Most of the mass shootings in the US have been done by emotionally disturbed young American men. How do we make it harder for them to commit these atrocities ?
There are already restrictions on what type of weapons you can legally own. There are already regulations on what you must do to obtain certain weapons. These restrictions and regulations are not a violation of the 2nd Amendment.
Propose some solutions now. The more mass shootings occur the more the public will want to ban.
There are also tons of restrictions to free speech Tim, why are you ok with restricting the 2nd ammendment but not the first?
It's obvious that a number of these people have been radicalized over the Internet, why not address it at the source instead of the way they choose to act out?
Removing guns will not solve this problem
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There are also tons of restrictions to free speech Tim, why are you ok with restricting the 2nd ammendment but not the first?
It's obvious that a number of these people have been radicalized over the Internet, why not address it at the source instead of the way they choose to act out?
Removing guns will not solve this problem
Use your words tim
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Look, they are just pussies. Can't say it in the real world in a political discussion or you'll get doxxed, but that it, bottom line. Gun banners are scared pussies.
Remember back in the late 70s when everyone was scared of a little Saturday Nite Special gun?
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Like the bible, people disagree on what the 2nd Amendment say. "Arms" does not mean any weapon of any type. "the people" doesn't mean everyone. (we do restrict children and felons)
And what about that no standing army clause? To me the militarization of the police violates that.
People who want to pontificate about what the founders intended have to understand what they had just been through. They just got done fighting for their freedom against an oppressive government. The 2nd amendment had nothing to do with hunting, or shooting at tin cans for recreation. It's was to make our government and foreign armies think twice about trying to subjugate our people. In that context it doesn't make any logical sense to allow the government to carry M16s and M4s but restricting the people to only having shotguns, pistols and bolt action rifles. The people obviously aren't going to have tanks and air support and tactical nukes but anyone who intends to trample on us needs to know that it isn't going to be easy and they are going to take some casualties. That we have the means to fight for our freedom. Without capable weapons to do that we are subjects and our rights exist only at the pleasure of our rulers.
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Houston has no fucking zoning which means that it's all pockets. Anywhere in Houston you are never more than a few blocks away from a not so great part of town. I live in one of the best and the richest part of town (rent mind you) and I could be in a pretty crappy part of town in 5 mins
Sounds like LA. Marina Del Rey next to Venice and Mar Vista, Beverly Hills also close to some shitty areas. In 1992 the Thin Blue Line of law enforcement broke down in that city for 3 days. It could easily happen again in a heartbeat in lots of cities in this country. Everyone who had a gun was carrying. Everyone who had two guns lent one out.
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Didn't watch. Since when did the fucking Daily Show on Comedy Central become a relevant venue for political discussion?
It's mockery and condescension disguised as political analysis. They are dishonest, one sided and agenda driven. M0therfuck the Daily Show and it know-nothing audience.
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Really they are not a violation? What part of "shall not be infringed" allows the government to restrict any type of weapon? The only reason any of this BS stands is because "We the people" allow it, and no one has taken it to court.
The thing that I find odd about these attacks, is everywhere else, they seem to prefer explosives. Suicide bombers, IED's...... But here they choose guns, now before you say easy to get, there is no way a gun is easier to get in the US than asscrackistan. I wonder why that is, maybe because they know that the general American populous is so fucking stupid, that they will beg .gov to take away their constitutional rights.
Right now you have a constitutional right to carry a firearm for self defense. Once the next Supreme Court Justice is appointed you may not.
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Should also license gays, have them tested and insured to make sure they don't pass on any infectious, harmful diseases.
Do you really think like this or are you kidding? Just curious where your racism stems from, parents, friends, grandparents..?
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Do you really think like this or are you kidding? Just curious where your racism stems from, parents, friends, grandparents..?
I am curious as to what "racism" you saw in his post.
Are you claiming that "gay" is a "race"?
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People who want to pontificate about what the founders intended have to understand what they had just been through. They just got done fighting for their freedom against an oppressive government. The 2nd amendment had nothing to do with hunting, or shooting at tin cans for recreation. It's was to make our government and foreign armies think twice about trying to subjugate our people. In that context it doesn't make any logical sense to allow the government to carry M16s and M4s but restricting the people to only having shotguns, pistols and bolt action rifles. The people obviously aren't going to have tanks and air support and tactical nukes but anyone who intends to trample on us needs to know that it isn't going to be easy and they are going to take some casualties. That we have the means to fight for our freedom. Without capable weapons to do that we are subjects and our rights exist only at the pleasure of our rulers.
Exactly, there are also the federalist and anti federalist papers to give us a better understanding of their thoughts on the subject. I bet 99% of Americans have never even heard of these.
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compare the US to countries that have actual gun laws and regulations. Your murders ans mass killing are off the charts in comparison.
Take out Chicago, New York and Los Angeles and a few other ghettoized metro areas and things start to look better for America. Oh wait! Those idiots shoot themselves...Run along now you Genovan level typist.
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Didn't watch. Since when did the fucking Daily Show on Comedy Central become a relevant venue for political discussion?
It's mockery and condescension disguised as political analysis. They are dishonest, one sided and agenda driven. M0therfuck the Daily Show and it know-nothing audience.
How is that different than any other political news station? ??? ???
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Should also license gays, have them tested and insured to make sure they don't pass on any infectious, harmful diseases.
You are actually a despicable human being.
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People who don't know one trigger pull, one bullet are morons and unqualified to discuss guns.
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Do you really think like this or are you kidding? Just curious where your racism stems from, parents, friends, grandparents..?
Gay is a race now? Lol
You are actually a despicable human being.
Thank you ???
Real question is which one of you bitch ass pussies logged out to report me to the mods? :D ;D
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I am curious as to what "racism" you saw in his post.
Are you claiming that "gay" is a "race"?
I'd personally define lack of tolerance against gays as racist yes. He's also spoken poorly about African Americans. I was curious where it was rooted.
I guess we could substitute racism for stupidity?
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How is that different than any other political news station? ??? ???
Good point. The daily show is the same except a tad more snarky.
It's really a disgrace what the media in this country has turned into.
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I'd personally define lack of tolerance against gays as racist yes. He's also spoken poorly about African Americans. I was curious where it was rooted.
I guess we could substitute racism for stupidity?
Lol so much stupid in this post. :D
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You are actually a despicable human being.
Despicable is a bit abrasive, he's probably a decent hard working middle class average Joe.
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You are actually a despicable human being.
He's making a valid comparison. AIDS has killed a lot of people and yet no one is squealing about how penises should be taken from these people or how anuses should be sewn shut. AIDS is the first communicable disease with civil rights. Where's the movement to force condoms down the throats (rectums?) of people to save them from themselves? Huh?
It's called being ridiculous to point out the ridiculous. Go ahead. Go there. Chaos is demonstrating just how silly the whine for more gun laws and taking guns from law abiding citizens really is by making a valid and even more ridiculous demand upon the citizenry. Some here would just as soon as blow the piper than pay him. Libtards.
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Despicable is a bit abrasive, he's probably a decent hard working middle class average Joe Schmoe.
Fixed. :D
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So sick of the gun debate, it's as bad as reading,watching,listening to the ongoing debate about racism. Gun ownership in America is par for course. It will always be. They will never take our guns away without mass bloodshed. There are more illegal guns in us than registered. Gun violence will never go away in the US nor anywhere else in the world. Gun laws are just as effective as laws against stealing,speeding and murder. There will always be those in society willing to break laws.
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He's making a valid comparison. AIDS has killed a lot of people and yet no one is squealing about how penises should be taken from these people or how anuses should be sewn shut. AIDS is the first communicable disease with civil rights. Where's the movement to force condoms down the throats (rectums?) of people to save them from themselves? Huh?
It's called being ridiculous to point out the ridiculous. Go ahead. Go there. Chaos is demonstrating just how silly the whine for more gun laws and taking guns from law abiding citizens really is by making a valid and even more ridiculous demand upon the citizenry. Some here would just as soon as blow the piper than pay him. Libtards.
You are equally despicable. You remind me of why I'm pro-choice.
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Banning the AR-15 will completely end all mass shootings.
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Ban alcohol
Alcohol-Related Deaths:
• Nearly 88,000 people (approximately 62,000 men and 26,000 women) die from alcohol-related causes annually, making it the fourth leading preventable cause of death in the United States.10
• In 2014, alcohol-impaired driving fatalities accounted for 9,967 deaths (31 percent of overall driving fatalities).11
https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohol-health/overview-alcohol-consumption/alcohol-facts-and-statistics
Ban cigarettes
Cigarette smoking causes about one of every five deaths in the United States each year.1,6 Cigarette smoking is estimated to cause the following:1
•More than 480,000 deaths annually (including deaths from secondhand smoke)
•278,544 deaths annually among men (including deaths from secondhand smoke)
•201,773 deaths annually among women (including deaths from secondhand smoke)
http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/health_effects/tobacco_related_mortality/
Ban guns? LOL
Number of Deaths 13,430
Number of Injuries 27,002
http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/past-tolls
This does not matter. These stats don't fit the left agenda. What fits is left trying to make an issue out .02% of the entire population that identifies as "transgender" like people really give a shit. This is no different.
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People actually think the government is going to come to their door and take their guns? Wow....if in their fantasy world this were to happen, then your AR-15 isn't going to do jack shit against tanks, and drones..There is absolutely no place for assault rifles in society... They aren't used for hunting. They're meant to kill large amounts of people in a short amount of time. I have guns, have had since I was 6 years old. Shotguns, and rifles. Never have I felt the need to hunt with an AR-15. As far as home protection, nothing is better than a shotgun.. The second amendment was written when a gun shot a lead ball, and took minutes to reload. They didn't foresee the types of weapons that would come to be... I'm not for taking away guns, but assault weapons have no place in civilian hands.
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Once you start letting the government take your freedoms away you don't get them back.
Once you allow the government to take more of your money you don't get it back.
Once you give the government additional power they don't give it up.
Do you want to be subjects or do you want to be free men?
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This does not matter. These stats don't fit the left agenda. What fits is left trying to make an issue out .02% of the entire population that identifies as "transgender" like people really give a shit. This is no different.
Yet a quick search shows there are a dozen posts from you which use the word "transgender". LOL!
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Yet a quick search shows there are a dozen posts from you which use the word "transgender". LOL!
7 pages of nothing from you and now you troll me. Let's get it on. Again, Trump and I are splitting commissions on the real estate we bought in your head. hahaha.
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7 pages of nothing from you and now you troll me. Let's get it on. Again, Trump and I are splitting commissions on the real estate we bought in your head. hahaha.
you and trump are working together on lots of things... mainly getting clinton elected.
do you still not believe he's a dem plant/mole? Geez, it's estimated that he's 300 to 500 mil behind hilary in fund-raising, not filling key roles, ignoring important states. If someone was trying to lose, this is what they'd be doing.
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I'd personally define lack of tolerance against gays as racist yes. He's also spoken poorly about African Americans. I was curious where it was rooted.
I guess we could substitute racism for stupidity?
I would disagree that gay is a race... You would have to show me his posts about African Americans that were racist.
I just don't recall them.
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People actually think the government is going to come to their door and take their guns? Wow....if in their fantasy world this were to happen, then your AR-15 isn't going to do jack shit against tanks, and drones..There is absolutely no place for assault rifles in society... They aren't used for hunting. They're meant to kill large amounts of people in a short amount of time. I have guns, have had since I was 6 years old. Shotguns, and rifles. Never have I felt the need to hunt with an AR-15. As far as home protection, nothing is better than a shotgun.. The second amendment was written when a gun shot a lead ball, and took minutes to reload. They didn't foresee the types of weapons that would come to be... I'm not for taking away guns, but assault weapons have no place in civilian hands.
The government doesn't have to physically confiscate them en-mass. They are going to make them impossible to own, use, sell or give away. You will have to bury it in your backyard. If you ever get caught with one they are going to assess a huge fine to you and rob you of more of your money. Then they will make you a felon and put you in prison. Once you have become a felon now your 2nd amendment rights are void. Several people will be made an example of. This will scare and intimidate most people into compliance. Many will voluntarily turn them in out of fear. The ones that stand up will be labeled domestic terrorist and shot.
I'm not interested in what you think, what you hunt with, or what you think I have a right to own. Fuck you.
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The government doesn't have to physically confiscate them en-mass. They are going to make them impossible to own, use, sell or give away. You will have to bury it in your backyard. If you ever get caught with one they are going to assess a huge fine to you and rob you of more of your money. Then they will make you a felon and put you in prison. Once you have become a felon now your 2nd amendment rights are void. Several people will be made an example of. This will scare and intimidate most people into compliance. Many will voluntarily turn them in out of fear. The ones that stand up will be labeled domestic terrorist and shot.
I'm not interested in what you think, what you hunt with, or what you think I have a right to own. Fuck you.
While I know we do not see eye to eye on many things.
On all of the above, I agree completely.
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Ban alcohol
Ban cigarettes
Ban guns? LOL
Slight difference you don't seem to understand. I enjoy having a drink and once in a while most likely will not die because of it. I also enjoy puffing a cigarette once in a while and most likely will not die because of it. In both cases I made the choice - so if I do, I have no one else to blame so it's ok. However, I do not enjoy being shot at with any kind of gun and if someone shoots at me, I definitely did not make the choice.
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you and trump are working together on lots of things... mainly getting clinton elected.
do you still not believe he's a dem plant/mole? Geez, it's estimated that he's 300 to 500 mil behind hilary in fund-raising, not filling key roles, ignoring important states. If someone was trying to lose, this is what they'd be doing.
How many lies have you told today. Haven't been on much. Yesterday was what, 3? 4?
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Then why put your 2 cents in on something you know nothing about? Watching too much tv and believing what the media reports will rot your brain, moreso than porn! :D
BTW, yes really.
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i know enough to know that your 2nd amendment is killing LOTS of Americans
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We're talking about mass shootings, almost all by crazy people using assault rifles. Propose another way to prevent them. No? Just collateral damage so you can have your toy.
this
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https://www.facebook.com/METalInternational/videos/10151578316252446/
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this
Neither you or Fogarty can tell anyone on here that if you had a gun and someone broke into your home and threatened your family (in Fogarty's case, his cats) that you wouldn't hesitate to shoot.
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i know enough to know that your 2nd amendment is killing LOTS of Americans
Chicago will have about 1,000 gun homicides this year.
Most located within 4 small areas of the city.
And you blame the 2nd Amendment for killing lots of Americans?
Europeans should stick to watching that game on tv where they kick a black and white ball and then roll on the ground holding their shins. Leave the manly stuff to Americans....and brush up on your Koran reading, you're going to need it
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Lets do this.
All of you Americans who are in favor of your current gun laws and think they are fine......explain why the US has so many mass shootings/killings. And why they are increasing.
And why other countries with more strict gun laws have way fewer.
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Lets do this.
All of you Americans who are in favor of your current gun laws and think they are fine......explain why the US has so many mass shootings/killings. And why they are increasing.
And why other countries with more strict gun laws have way fewer.
Because homosexual eurofags aren't strong enough to pull a trigger.
What do I win?
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Chicago will have about 1,000 gun homicides this year.
Most located within 4 small areas of the city.
And you blame the 2nd Amendment for killing lots of Americans?
Europeans should stick to watching that game on tv where they kick a black and white ball and then roll on the ground holding their shins. Leave the manly stuff to Americans....and brush up on your Koran reading, you're going to need it
im Canadian.
And yes 1000 doesnt sound ridiculous to you??
My city has about 35 homicides from guns last year and was the most per capita in Canada
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How many lies have you told today. Haven't been on much. Yesterday was what, 3? 4?
I ask you if you think Trump is a dem plant. You attack me.
You don't want to answer - cause when it turns out to be true, you don't want egg on your face.
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im Canadian.
And yes 1000 doesnt sound ridiculous to you??
My city has about 35 homicides from guns last year and was the most per capita in Canada
Look at it this way......1,000 less Dindus in the city doesn't keep me awake worrying about it at night.
Ahhhhhh Canadian.
It is funny how you little people up there always want to stick your noses in America's business, like your naive, uninformed opinions mean anything to us.
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I ask you if you think Trump is a dem plant. You attack me.
You don't want to answer - cause when it turns out to be true, you don't want egg on your face.
No he's not a "plant" hahaha. There, I answered it. But I see you haven't denied lying on a daily basis.
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https://www.facebook.com/dan.bongino/videos/1082273615198732/
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While I know we do not see eye to eye on many things.
On all of the above, I agree completely.
Cheers! It's true we don't often agree. I'm glad we do agree on this most important issue. Peace be upon you.
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Ahhhhhh Canadian.
It is funny how you little people up there always want to stick your noses in America's business, like your naive, uninformed opinions mean anything to us.
no...we just see how America is killing itself and doesnt get it
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no...we just see how America is killing itself and doesnt get it
Your twink grand pubah is letting in thousands of Immigrant Syrians. Let us know how that works out in about a year.
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Your twink grand pubah is letting in thousands of Immigrant Syrians. Let us know how that works out in about a year.
so far these immigrants have sent money and opened their homes to help the people of Ft McMurray who lost most everything...and they themselves have nothing.
but this has nothing to do with gun control
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No he's not a "plant" hahaha. There, I answered it.
Quoted.
Did you see what he said - today - about the US troops stealing money?
What possible good comes from him saying this? The man cannot control himself. OR he's very much in control, and purposely crapping the bed every time he starts getting positive momentum.
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Quoted.
Did you see what he said - today - about the US troops stealing money?
What possible good comes from him saying this? The man cannot control himself. OR he's very much in control, and purposely crapping the bed every time he starts getting positive momentum.
Sound like a "plant"?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3642046/He-angry-shooter-Birthday-boy-Trump-blasts-Obama-afternoon-terror-lecture-claims-Orlando-shooting-proves-political-correctness-deadly.html
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Sound like a "plant"?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3642046/He-angry-shooter-Birthday-boy-Trump-blasts-Obama-afternoon-terror-lecture-claims-Orlando-shooting-proves-political-correctness-deadly.html
Maybe you missed all the top repubs in senate just destroying Trump today.
he insinuated the US President was working with terrorists, shared goals.
he said US troops stole money
He said the shooter was born in afghanisatan - and that's totally not true, the man was born in NY, it was his parents.
He sounds like a man trying to say the stupidest things possible, to alienate his party and make hilary look like the only viable option. Doing a fine job, if that is indeed his goal. Some Repubs won't even talk about trump.
this man is a joke. if he had a (D) in front of his name, you'd agree.
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Maybe you missed all the top repubs in senate just destroying Trump today.
he insinuated the US President was working with terrorists, shared goals.
he said US troops stole money
He said the shooter was born in afghanisatan - and that's totally not true, the man was born in NY, it was his parents.
He sounds like a man trying to say the stupidest things possible, to alienate his party and make hilary look like the only viable option. Doing a fine job, if that is indeed his goal. Some Repubs won't even talk about trump.
this man is a joke. if he had a (D) in front of his name, you'd agree.
Hahaha, I've been saying for years that Obama is in the tank with terrorists. Fuck, he's one of them. For Gods sake Isis was born on his watch. lol
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Maybe you missed all the top repubs in senate just destroying Trump today.
he insinuated the US President was working with terrorists, shared goals.
he said US troops stole money
He said the shooter was born in afghanisatan - and that's totally not true, the man was born in NY, it was his parents.
He sounds like a man trying to say the stupidest things possible, to alienate his party and make hilary look like the only viable option. Doing a fine job, if that is indeed his goal. Some Repubs won't even talk about trump.
this man is a joke. if he had a (D) in front of his name, you'd agree.
but when the audience is stupid, stupid goes down quite well rather than alienating the speaker and when you read and listen to the gun control debates amongst americans, it's pretty obvious there's a lot of "stupid" about.
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Look at it this way......1,000 less Dindus in the city doesn't keep me awake worrying about it at night.
Ahhhhhh Canadian.
It is funny how you little people up there always want to stick your noses in America's business, like your naive, uninformed opinions mean anything to us.
Which means 1000 "could have beens" that are now gone.
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"How can you purchase a gun after being investigated by the FBI???"
The same damn way that you can be investigated by the FBI and run for president... ::) ::) ::)
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Trump says the stupid shit his base wants to hear.
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summarizing a bunch of posts above:
I am not for criminalizing hate speech. Most of the people held at Gitmo were not guilty of any crime. Torture is always wrong. The No Fly List is a violation of due process.
The question is how do we prevent bad people from accessing these weapons? Most of the mass shootings in the US have been done by emotionally disturbed young American men. How do we make it harder for them to commit these atrocities ?
There are already restrictions on what type of weapons you can legally own. There are already regulations on what you must do to obtain certain weapons. These restrictions and regulations are not a violation of the 2nd Amendment.
Propose some solutions now. The more mass shootings occur the more the public will want to ban.
I am not for criminalizing hate speech. Most of the people held at Gitmo were not guilty of any crime. Torture is always wrong. The No Fly List is a violation of due process.
Then why ask rhetorical questions? should people who are on the No Fly List be allowed to buy weapons? If .Gov has something on these people , shit or get off the pot.
The question is how do we prevent bad people from accessing these weapons? Most of the mass shootings in the US have been done by emotionally disturbed young American men. How do we make it harder for them to commit these atrocities ?
We can't. Why? because they're not " bad people " until they start pulling the trigger. Obviously more of a focus should be placed on mental health but that creates a new set of problems , when is it ok for a therapist to turn in their patients? How does this affect HIPAA laws? I know one thing you don't prevent ME from being able to purchase a certain type of firearm because some mentally ill people decide to murder a bunch of people.
There are already restrictions on what type of weapons you can legally own. There are already regulations on what you must do to obtain certain weapons. These restrictions and regulations are not a violation of the 2nd Amendment.
You're wrong , these " restrictions & regulations " are in violation of the 2nd Amendment , especially considering the vast majority of " mass killings " are done with pistols opposed to rifles. When you arbitrarily limit the amount of rounds a person can carry in a magazine , that's infringement , when you " ban " rifles based on nothing more than appearance that's infringement , When you want to ban the amount of firearms a person can purchase that's infringement , When you punish me for what he did that's the textbook definition of infringement.
Propose some solutions now. The more mass shootings occur the more the public will want to ban.
lol Your solution is for a ban. And you're just blissfully ignorant on why. Forget the fact you're much more likely to to be stabbed to death before you get shot with an AR15 , you're much more likely to be beaten to death with hands & feet before you are to get shot by an AR15 but you don't care , AR15's have NO place for the general population ::)
Fear & ignorance drives the public , these rifles have been demonized and the masses don't care about the facts , this is exactly why " the public " shouldn't have a say in these matters , it's how we got here in the first place. The only solution is investing more in mental health , giving the professionals more leeway in being able to detain people who they deem dangerous and a threat to society, This in turn will most likely prevent people from being honest with their doctors and avoid mental health professionals due to stigma.
There is NO " solutions " We've learn prohibitions don't work , never have , never will. People are so delusional they don't want to accept the fact that we live among killers and sometimes they want to hurt us and will.
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"How can you purchase a gun after being investigated by the FBI???"
The same damn way that you can be investigated by the FBI and run for president... ::) ::) ::)
Hell every single time I purchased a gun they called the FBI , it's called a NICS check.
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Which means 1000 "could have beens" that are now gone.
1,000 future anchors on society and criminals, who would have bred 9,000 more in their likeness....
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Slight difference you don't seem to understand. I enjoy having a drink and once in a while most likely will not die because of it. I also enjoy puffing a cigarette once in a while and most likely will not die because of it. In both cases I made the choice - so if I do, I have no one else to blame so it's ok. However, I do not enjoy being shot at with any kind of gun and if someone shoots at me, I definitely did not make the choice.
You have a choice with second hand smoke and drunk drivers?
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3641598/Surviving-friend-teen-murdered-Orlando-massacre-sobs-guilt-recounts-shooter-asked-black-people-bathroom-stall-hiding-spare-having-suffered-enough.html
We need to ban racist, gay, mysoginist, islamic, muslim, homophobic, democrats.
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i know enough to know that your 2nd amendment is killing LOTS of Americans
Check back a few posts, alcohol kills 6x's as many as guns and tobacco kills more than 20x's. Ban them also? If you are so concerned about saving American lives, spend some time looking up the facts. Gun deaths are way down the list, just over sensationalized in the media.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3641598/Surviving-friend-teen-murdered-Orlando-massacre-sobs-guilt-recounts-shooter-asked-black-people-bathroom-stall-hiding-spare-having-suffered-enough.html
We need to ban racist, gay, mysoginist, islamic, muslim, homophobic, democrats.
Does that mean he loved the BBC?
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Does that mean he loved the BBC?
I think that's a well established fact.
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The government doesn't have to physically confiscate them en-mass. They are going to make them impossible to own, use, sell or give away. You will have to bury it in your backyard. If you ever get caught with one they are going to assess a huge fine to you and rob you of more of your money. Then they will make you a felon and put you in prison. Once you have become a felon now your 2nd amendment rights are void. Several people will be made an example of. This will scare and intimidate most people into compliance. Many will voluntarily turn them in out of fear. The ones that stand up will be labeled domestic terrorist and shot.
I'm not interested in what you think, what you hunt with, or what you think I have a right to own. Fuck you.
Sounds like you're a bit paranoid...what place does an assault rifle have in society? None. They serve no purpose...Guns are not going to be banned...overgeneralize much? Sounds like you're a pretty mature fella as well....You're probably not interested in much besides yourself...no matter who it affects... Like most other selfish pricks running around...
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ignorant people on my social feeds...
"I have a great gun collection and love the 2nd amendment, but why would anyone need a SEMIAUTOMATIC weapon, let's be honest?"
Ignorance.
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Sounds like you're a bit paranoid...what place does an assault rifle have in society? None. They serve no purpose...Guns are not going to be banned...overgeneralize much? Sounds like you're a pretty mature fella as well....You're probably not interested in much besides yourself...no matter who it affects... Like most other selfish pricks running around...
You are making blanket statements that are nothing more than your opinion yet pretending that they are facts.
It's not my fault that you are a naive simpleton with no understanding of history or the nature of human beings.
You seem to think and reason like a woman. I bet you are very spiritual and you do yoga. Why don't you let men worry about complex subjects and go back to reading your horoscope.
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ignorant people on my social feeds...
"I have a great gun collection and love the 2nd amendment, but why would anyone need a SEMIAUTOMATIC weapon, let's be honest?"
Ignorance.
1. Fun to shoot
2. Zombie apocalypse
3. Marauders are not going to respect a Red Rider BB gun
4. Nobody's beeswax
5. Multiple targets
6. Will give all but the most determined home invaders pause
7. Illusion of protection from the Govt
8. etc...
I don't own a semi-automatic rifle but don't feel we can ban everything in the world that's misused by people. There's a huge opiate addiction problem in the US but we're not stopping legal prescriptions. More people than you'd imagine are OD'ing or dying from synthetic marijuana but we're in no hurry to legalize the real shit.
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Isn't an Ar15 style rifle just an ordinary hunting rifle that is made to look cool?
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Trump is totally pissing off the republicans in Senate & the NRA. He wants to hand Obama the ability to randomly label ANYONE a "potential terrorist", add them to a list, and ban them from buying guns for an indefinite period of time.
Repubs are having a really hard time defending their nominee. It's textbook "what a guy would do to make sure the dem wins the white house"
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debate on this issue is academic given that Hillary's got the next 3 SC Justices hahaha
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Trump is totally pissing off the republicans in Senate & the NRA. He wants to hand Obama the ability to randomly label ANYONE a "potential terrorist", add them to a list, and ban them from buying guns for an indefinite period of time.
Repubs are having a really hard time defending their nominee. It's textbook "what a guy would do to make sure the dem wins the white house"
You're right, Trump is totally throwing the election, there now stfu about it already.
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Trump is totally pissing off the republicans in Senate & the NRA. He wants to hand Obama the ability to randomly label ANYONE a "potential terrorist", add them to a list, and ban them from buying guns for an indefinite period of time.
Repubs are having a really hard time defending their nominee. It's textbook "what a guy would do to make sure the dem wins the white house"
240, are you saying that Trump is purposely throwing the election by siding with democratic views, in order to ensure that Hillary becomes president?
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240, are you saying that Trump is purposely throwing the election by siding with democratic views, in order to ensure that Hillary becomes president?
I believe that 240s opinion is that Trump may intentionally be throwing the election so his good friend Killary can win.
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I believe that 240s opinion is that Trump may intentionally be throwing the election so his good friend Killary can win.
We need 240 to speak on this and be explicit about his views. No more this implicit nonsense, 240.
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We need 240 to speak on this and be explicit about his views. No more this implicit nonsense, 240.
240 has beaten around this bush for months, he needs to take a stance!!
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240 has beaten around this bush for months, he needs to take a stance!!
I truly believe that 240 truly believes that Trump is a dem plant/mole.
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Sounds like you're a bit paranoid...what place does an assault rifle have in society? None. They serve no purpose...Guns are not going to be banned...overgeneralize much? Sounds like you're a pretty mature fella as well....You're probably not interested in much besides yourself...no matter who it affects... Like most other selfish pricks running around...
Sounds like you're a bit paranoid...what place does an assault rifle have in society? None. They serve no purpose
Wrong , dead wrong. One because AR15's aren't " assault rifles " Two , here is a excellent reason to own one , just because you can't see past your own bias doesn't mean they don't have a place
Multiple targets , armed and dangerous stopped with an AR15 , If this guy wasn't armed how well do you think he would have fared? I'm betting they weren't going to leave any living witnesses
Guns are not going to be banned...overgeneralize much? Sounds like you're a pretty mature fella as well....You're probably not interested in much besides yourself...no matter who it affects... Like most other selfish pricks running around...
They're trying very hard to ban guns and repeal the 2nd Amendment. But for the rest of this nonsense you typed , in psychology they call this " projection " It's ignorant people like you are selfish and can't see past their own biases and want to ban a weapon because of the way it looks. ::) And what's with this collectivist bullshit? What is this Mother Russia it's for the greater good for all of us? Taking my AR15 away doesn't solve any problems , mass shootings will continue and when the AR15s are gone , they will realize that mass shootings are happening the vast majority of the time with pistols and then they will come for them.
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Wrong , dead wrong. One because AR15's aren't " assault rifles " Two , here is a excellent reason to own one , just because you can't see past your own bias doesn't mean they don't have a place
Multiple targets , armed and dangerous stopped with an AR15 , If this guy wasn't armed how well do you think he would have fared? I'm betting they weren't going to leave any living witnesses
They're trying very hard to ban guns and repeal the 2nd Amendment. But for the rest of this nonsense you typed , in psychology they call this " projection " It's ignorant people like you are selfish and can't see past their own biases and want to ban a weapon because of the way it looks. ::) And what's with this collectivist bullshit? What is this Mother Russia it's for the greater good for all of us? Taking my AR15 away doesn't solve any problems , mass shootings will continue and when the AR15s are gone , they will realize that mass shootings are happening the vast majority of the time with pistols and then they will come for them.
You don't need a gun, if you hire 240 as your bodyguard.
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240 has beaten around this bush for months, he needs to take a stance!!
I'm torn. Part of me thinks Trump is a dem plant.
The other half of me thinks Trump is a dem mole.
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I truly believe that 240 truly believes that Trump is a dem plant/mole.
I understand 240 is convinced that he believes Trump is a plant. 240 should clarify his position and reasoning here.
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To all the E-Activists let me teach you what you're begging your Big Brother Uncle Sam to do to prevent these tragedies
You're asking him that any new " AR15 " have it's flash hider removed and in it's place have a muzzle break installed permanently pinned & welded , So the people you're shooting can see the muzzle flash
You're asking them to make sure that the barrels have no bayonet lugs attached , In case of the lunatic trying to murder you runs out of ammo so he can impale you with a bayonet instead.
You're asking them to make sure the stock is pinned to it cannot move forward & backward , thus concealing a 3 foot rifle ??? ::)
You're asking them to limit the capacity of magazines to just 10 rounds , So in theory they won't have as many rounds to kill as many people , lets just ignore the fact that the AR15 has been sold for 50 plus years and MILLIONS and MILLIONS of pre-ban standard capacity 30 round magazines are available for sale
That's it. Congrats you fucking morons. You've accomplished absolutely NOTHING. It doesn't affect the rate of fire ( semi-automatic ) it doesn't affect the how lethal the round is. But hey you and your E-activist friends on Facebook can all pat yourselves on the back for getting " effective change " done and fighting the " Evil NRA " ::)
If you call for a complete and utter ban of any semi-automatic rifle including calling for confiscation of them all , Then congrats because you've accomplished absolutely NOTHING except more gun violence because people aren't just going to give them up , some will , hell maybe even most ( doubtful ) but you're going to need men with guns to confiscate the guns. Either way you solve NOTHING.
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I understand 240 is convinced that he believes Trump is a plant. 240 should clarify his position and reasoning here.
Trump is just Trump and people try to over analyze the guy. He speaks what's on his mind with very few advisers and no teleprompter.
The media has a field day with the guy and helped him get nominated with all the press. It started with the wall and snowballed. He's now the figurehead for the anti government movement of people tired of all the do nothing, bought and paid for politicians. Right or wrong this is the position he is in and people have a choice.
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You don't need a gun, if you hire 240 as your bodyguard.
What rippling muscles he has
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What rippling muscles he has
Undercover schmoe in that clip.
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Undercover schmoe in that clip.
;D :-X
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Check back a few posts, alcohol kills 6x's as many as guns and tobacco kills more than 20x's. Ban them also? If you are so concerned about saving American lives, spend some time looking up the facts. Gun deaths are way down the list, just over sensationalized in the media.
So if there is something out there more dangerous we just ignore the gun and/or violence epidemic in this country. You're basically saying America is the can't do country. We can't multitask or take on more than one issue at a time? That's it. Make America great again.
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So if there is something out there more dangerous we just ignore the gun and/or violence epidemic in this country. You're basically saying America is the can't do country. We can't multitask or take on more than one issue at a time? That's it. Make America great again.
The whole point is the " solutions " being proposed aren't solutions , they have been tried and failed and asking for them again accomplishes nothing and only serves to infringe on people who follow the laws to begin with.
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The whole point is the " solutions " being proposed aren't solutions , they have been tried and failed and asking for them again accomplishes nothing and only serves to infringe on people who follow the laws to begin with.
Lets be real here: even if there was a proposed solution, you would be against it. So, there is no sense to keep asking for a proposed solution. Hypothetically speaking, lets pretend that we did find a proposed solution to gun violence, but it infringed on your rights, you wouldn't support the solution. So, you might as well just say that you don't care about any proposed solution, as long as you have your guns. I mean, you can keep your guns, I don't care. But stop pretending like you'd be open to any solution. Because you aren't. Case closed.
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The whole point is the " solutions " being proposed aren't solutions , they have been tried and failed and asking for them again accomplishes nothing and only serves to infringe on people who follow the laws to begin with.
Perfectly said.
The government's own investigation was force to admit that the previous "ban" didn't do shit.
If they really wan't to take steps to curtail these murders they are going after the wrong people. I suggest everyone take 1 minute and read this....
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/homeland-security/268282-dhs-ordered-me-to-scrub-records-of-muslims-with-terror
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Isn't an Ar15 style rifle just an ordinary hunting rifle that is made to look cool?
Yes. They look scary to people that don't know shit about firearms. The idiots see this...
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and they imagine this....
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Lets be real here: even if there was a proposed solution, you would be against it. So, there is no sense to keep asking for a proposed solution. Hypothetically speaking, lets pretend that we did find a proposed solution to gun violence, but it infringed on your rights, you wouldn't support the solution. So, you might as well just say that you don't care about any proposed solution, as long as you have your guns. I mean, you can keep your guns, I don't care. But stop pretending like you'd be open to any solution. Because you aren't. Case closed.
That's more projection. What's been proposed and tried already hasn't work and will not work. I'm more reality based knowing through history prohibition doesn't work and punishing me for something someone else has done is morally bankrupt. I know where we are , we can NEVER stop or even minimize that fact that certain people can and will kill , that's the part we can't reconcile
It's like Christianity , We're being punished by God because of the act of " Adam & Eve in the Garden of Eden " It's immoral to punish me for the actions of a killer. It's akin to " White guilt " because some English subjects owned salves 400 years before I was born and immigrated here.
The killer had an AR15 ( he actually didn't ) You have an AR15 so therefore you're a potential mass-shooter who may just gun down 6 year olds. This is a bigoted mindset based on fear & emotion.
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I have the solution it's the complete ban on any semi-automatic firearm. Banned from being manufactured , banned from being personally owned. All semiautomatic firearms should be confiscated , destroyed and any criminal caught in procession of one should be incarcerated for a minimum sentence of 25 years period end of sentence.
It's a solution and it might just work , but what's the cost? First it's Unconstitutional , Second it will cause another Civil War , costing X amount of dollars ( maybe we can borrow more from China?) and XX amount of human lives but hey it will end " mass shootings " right? lol
Most gun murders are done with pistols IIRC it was like 87% there's your problem , obviously the problem is much more nuanced than that , drugs , gangs , poverty , etc
We live among killers , sociopaths , psychopaths , who can and will kill without remorse , sometimes they lash out and hurt people this has always happened and always will. You can't stop them , hopefully only minimize the damage they do.
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The killer had an AR15 ( he actually didn't ) You have an AR15 so therefore you're a potential mass-shooter who may just gun down 6 year olds. This is a bigoted mindset based on fear & emotion.
Another fantastic post.
People who like to shoot and own certain firearms are being mocked, blamed and stigmatized as if we were the terrorists.
It is bigotry and prejudice, the same thing that liberals are fond of crying about.
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Another fantastic post.
People who like to shoot and own certain firearms are being mocked, blamed and stigmatized as if we were the terrorists.
It is bigotry and prejudice, the same thing that liberals are fond of crying about.
From people who pride ( no pun ) themselves on being tolerant & accepting too
Case in point a Maine Restaurant owner says specifically if you own an AR15 or condone the personal ownership of them you are NOT welcomed at his restaurant !!
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1878289_A_Portland__Maine_Restruant_Does_Not_Want_Your_Business_if_You_Own_an_AR15.html
I have spent 12 years, intentionally, not being political on this page because I embrace the diversity of opinions. Let me be clear, this is not a political issue. This is a human rights issue. If you own this gun, or you condone the ownership of this gun for private use, you may no longer enter either of my restaurants, because the only thing I want to teach my children is love. When we have seen our schools, our clubs, our movie theaters, our public places of safety and celebration, be allowed to be targeted, remember that Grace is all of those things. You don't privately own this weapon to protect your family, or to hunt. I understand that I may be offending members of my community, but this is a human issue, not a gun owners issue, or a second amendment issue, it is about humans. I cannot, in good conscience, accept anyone inside of my restaurants who believes that this is ok. Love is love, and only light can drive out the darkness. I would be ashamed, as a parent and a human, if I did not use this platform to speak up. How many people have to bury their loved ones before we say together, no more.
Pure bigotry plain & simple , replace AR15 owner with black person , how well would this fly?
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Love is love......unless you own an AR15 :D
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From people who pride ( no pun ) themselves on being tolerant & accepting too
Case in point a Maine Restaurant owner says specifically if you own an AR15 or condone the personal ownership of them you are NOT welcomed at his restaurant !!
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1878289_A_Portland__Maine_Restruant_Does_Not_Want_Your_Business_if_You_Own_an_AR15.html
I have spent 12 years, intentionally, not being political on this page because I embrace the diversity of opinions. Let me be clear, this is not a political issue. This is a human rights issue. If you own this gun, or you condone the ownership of this gun for private use, you may no longer enter either of my restaurants, because the only thing I want to teach my children is love. When we have seen our schools, our clubs, our movie theaters, our public places of safety and celebration, be allowed to be targeted, remember that Grace is all of those things. You don't privately own this weapon to protect your family, or to hunt. I understand that I may be offending members of my community, but this is a human issue, not a gun owners issue, or a second amendment issue, it is about humans. I cannot, in good conscience, accept anyone inside of my restaurants who believes that this is ok. Love is love, and only light can drive out the darkness. I would be ashamed, as a parent and a human, if I did not use this platform to speak up. How many people have to bury their loved ones before we say together, no more.
Pure bigotry plain & simple , replace AR15 owner with black person , how well would this fly?
Sounds like a discrimination lawsuit to me. If they can put people out of business because they won't bake a homo's wedding cake then something should be done about this.
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Sheep are forgetting the whole point behind the 2nd amendment....
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Sounds like a discrimination lawsuit to me. If they can put people out of business because they won't bake a homo's wedding cake then something should be done about this.
They are taking a beating on their Facebook and Yelp lol ;D The interwebs is a double edge sword.
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Sheep are forgetting the whole point behind the 2nd amendment....
They have deluded themselves that government oppression could never happen here. They think you're nuts to even suggest it.
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3 dead and 250 injured in the Boston Marathon bombings. Time to regulate and ban bombs...
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Love is love......unless you own an AR15 :D
Exactly.
Love is love, peace and tolerance...... as long as don't do something I don't like. If so, then fuck you.
Everyone is a ni66er to somebody.
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Do you really think like this or are you kidding? Just curious where your racism stems from, parents, friends, grandparents..?
There are 10 Countries where the penalty for gay sex is death. I wonder if the homos in those Countries had better access to guns would they be able to revolt against such actions against them?
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"How can you purchase a gun after being investigated by the FBI???"
The same damn way that you can be investigated by the FBI and run for president... ::) ::) ::)
People with a felony can't become on cop or a fireman. But they can run for President...
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There are 10 Countries where the penalty for gay sex is death. I wonder if the homos in those Countries had better access to guns would they be able to revolt against such actions against them?
Those are white Christian countries, right?
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ignorant people on my social feeds...
"I have a great gun collection and love the 2nd amendment, but why would anyone need a SEMIAUTOMATIC weapon, let's be honest?"
Ignorance.
1/4 of people saying that are cointelpro. Anyone thinking they're not coming after your guns just isn't paying attention.
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Trump is totally pissing off the republicans in Senate & the NRA. He wants to hand Obama the ability to randomly label ANYONE a "potential terrorist", add them to a list, and ban them from buying guns for an indefinite period of time.
Repubs are having a really hard time defending their nominee. It's textbook "what a guy would do to make sure the dem wins the white house"
Agreed.
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Those are white Christian countries, right?
It seems like the homosexual movement only cares about the White Christian country homos.
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"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"
Who decides what constitutes an infringement? If we let the government decide that then the 2nd Amendment
means nothing.
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Those are white Christian countries, right?
you mean like Canada?
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"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"
Who decides what constitutes an infringement? If we let the government decide that then the 2nd Amendment
means nothing.
Excellent point.
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Lets do this.
All of you Americans who are in favor of your current gun laws and think they are fine......explain why the US has so many mass shootings/killings. And why they are increasing.
And why other countries with more strict gun laws have way fewer.
nobody???
ok
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nobody???
ok
You are better at posting pics of college age women blinky - no need to get political on us, haha
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You are better at posting pics of college age women blinky - no need to get political on us, haha
apparently u guys cant answer a simple question to back up your thoughts......whos bad at what????
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nobody???
ok
Hi joon :D
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Lets do this.
All of you Americans who are in favor of your current gun laws and think they are fine......explain why the US has so many mass shootings/killings. And why they are increasing.
And why other countries with more strict gun laws have way fewer.
The question has been answered. " Mass shootings " are a red herring because the vast majority of people killed with guns is suicide. Mass shootings are sensationalized by the media when in fact most mass shootings happen in cities with the most strict gun policies in the country. You ever wonder how Chicago became known as " Chiraq " ? Because more people die to mass shootings every year than were in the Iraq war. You ever wonder how Vermont has next to NO gun laws whatsoever and no mass shootings? Same with New Hampshire which has very liberal gun laws.
Your perception of the reality of the situation is skewed this is the facts
Mass shootings rivet national attention, but are a small share of gun violence
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/09/17/mass-shootings-rivet-national-attention-but-are-a-small-share-of-gun-violence/
accounted for less than 1% of all homicide deaths from 1980 to 2008. These homicides, most of which are shootings, increased as a share of all homicides from 0.5% in 1980 to 0.8% in 2008
Hyperbole - OMG " Mass Shootings " are on the rise :o :o :o ::)
Facts - Technically true they still represent less than 1% of all homicides for twenty-eight-fucking-years straight. The media fans the flames , ignorant people like you eat it like candy and it's all used to control other people , i.e. gun laws , infringement on people's rights.
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Lets do this.
All of you Americans who are in favor of your current gun laws and think they are fine......explain why the US has so many mass shootings/killings. And why they are increasing.
And why other countries with more strict gun laws have way fewer.
The question has been answered. " Mass shootings " are a red herring because the vast majority of people killed with guns is suicide. Mass shootings are sensationalized by the media when in fact most mass shootings happen in cities with the most strict gun policies in the country. You ever wonder how Chicago became known as " Chiraq " ? Because more people die to mass shootings every year than were in the Iraq war. You ever wonder how Vermont has next to NO gun laws whatsoever and no mass shootings? Same with New Hampshire which has very liberal gun laws.
Your perception of the reality of the situation is skewed this is the facts
Mass shootings rivet national attention, but are a small share of gun violence
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/09/17/mass-shootings-rivet-national-attention-but-are-a-small-share-of-gun-violence/
accounted for less than 1% of all homicide deaths from 1980 to 2008. These homicides, most of which are shootings, increased as a share of all homicides from 0.5% in 1980 to 0.8% in 2008
Hyperbole - OMG " Mass Shootings " are on the rise :o :o :o ::)
Facts - Technically true they still represent less than 1% of all homicides for twenty-eight-fucking-years straight. The media fans the flames , ignorant people like you eat it like candy and it's all used to control other people , i.e. gun laws , infringement on people's rights.
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Interesting question, kwon.
We both know most of this is bullshit politics. People on the far left want 0 gun ownership. People on the far right want 0 Muslims.
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“There is too much gun crime in the USA, and high-powered weaponry is too easy to get. That’s the fact. So let’s deal with it. We all have the right to bear arms, but we don’t have the right to buy and maintain mortars. Even if you feel threatened by gangsters or a New World Order. No bazookas, no Sherman tanks, no hand grenades.”
“That’s because the Second Amendment clearly states the government has a right to regulate militias, made up of individuals. They have that right in the name of public safety. Therefore, Congress should debate what kind of weapons should be available for public sale. And the states, the individual states, should decide what kind of carry laws are good for their own people.”
- Bill O'Reilly, Tuesday
jump to 0:30 if you want
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Love how O brings out the gun control argument every time there is a major shooting incident. Like he loves when it happens - just looking for another reason to disarm Americans.
Meanwhile an email pops up in the Hillary email dump that shows the Obama administration backed the Isis/Al Qaeda group in Syria. Guess we know where his allegiances lie.
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Love how O brings out the gun control argument every time there is a major shooting incident. Like he loves when it happens - just looking for another reason to disarm Americans.
Meanwhile an email pops up in the Hillary email dump that shows the Obama administration backed the Isis/Al Qaeda group in Syria. Guess we know where his allegiances lie.
Your retardation is very strong.
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CNN (aka Clinton News Network): Study: Gun homicides, violence down sharply in past 20 years
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/08/us/study-gun-homicide/
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Epic meme. Crushing the hypocrisy of gun grabbers.
There are a lot of people that need to see this.
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CNN (aka Clinton News Network): Study: Gun homicides, violence down sharply in past 20 years
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/08/us/study-gun-homicide/
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...and only a tiny fraction of those gun homicides were committed with an AR15. Of course, none of this matters to the hysterical bigots that want to ban them.
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its sad how all but gun loving Americans see it. Keep your heads in the sand you so can own your precious gun, rifle, semi-automatic weapon.
smh
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I think it's more sad that people who live outside of the US think they should care.
If your country is so safe. Just stay there. We are fine either way.
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its sad how all but gun loving Americans see it. Keep your heads in the sand you so can own your precious gun, rifle, semi-automatic weapon.
smh
Your opinion means nothing, you elected a closet-homo, momma's boy, refugee-loving liberal to run your pissant country into the ground
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Your opinion means nothing, you elected a closet-homo, momma's boy, refugee-loving liberal to run your pissant country into the ground
If you ask nicely, maybe he'll let you suck his cock?
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If you ask nicely, maybe he'll let you suck his cock?
It's Obama, you probably wouldn't even have to ask nicely.
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its sad how all but gun loving Americans see it. Keep your heads in the sand you so can own your precious gun, rifle, semi-automatic weapon.
smh
What I think is sad is that there are a lot of people in this world are content to be defenseless.
Content to trust their fates to the whims of powerful men.
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It's Obama, you probably wouldn't even have to ask nicely.
I was talking about Blinky's cock, not Obamas. But don't let me ruin your closet fantasy.
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What I think is sad is that there are a lot of people in this world are content to be defenseless.
Content to trust their fates to the whims of powerful men.
Don't be silly. Getbiggers are not defenseless.
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If you ask nicely, maybe he'll let you suck his cock?
So that's your secret, glad it worked for you gloryhole gulper.
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So that's your secret, glad it worked for you gloryhole gulper.
^textbook projection^
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Either the state has the power or the individual has the power. That is the essence of the gun control debate. Everything else is noise.
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its sad how all but gun loving Americans see it. Keep your heads in the sand you so can own your precious gun, rifle, semi-automatic weapon.
smh
It's sad that even when presented with facts people like you will keep your head in the sand you can continue to spout off ignorance and emotion as a substitute.
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THE WORLD HISTORY OF GUN CONTROL
1929 -- The Soviet Union establishes gun control. From 1929 to 1953, approximately 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
1935 -- China establishes gun control. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents,unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
1938 -- Germany establishes gun control. From 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews, gypsies,and other arbitrary categories of people unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
1964 -- Guatemala establishes gun control.From 1964 to 1981 100,000 Mayan Indians,unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
1966 -- Cambodia establishes gun control. From 1975 to 1977, one million "educated" people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
1970 -- Uganda establishes gun control. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
1999 -- Australia establishes gun control. Law-abiding citizens were forced to surrender 640,381 personal firearms for destruction, a program costing the government more than $500 million. The results Australia-wide:homicides are up 3.2%, assaults are up 8%, and armed robberies are up 44%. In the state of Victoria, homicides with firearms are up 300%. Over the previous 25 years, figures show a steady decrease in armed robberies and Australian politicians are on the spot and at a loss to explain how no improvement in "safety" has been observed after such a monumental effort was expended in "ridding society of guns."
In a mere 100 years, more than 56 million people, unable to defend themselves because of gun control, have lost their lives and property. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property. Gun control only affects law-abiding citizens as criminals will always find a way to obtain weapons. The next time someone suggests how much safer the world might be with gun control, ask them which group of citizens they would like to exterminate.
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“There is too much gun crime in the USA, and high-powered weaponry is too easy to get. That’s the fact. So let’s deal with it. We all have the right to bear arms, but we don’t have the right to buy and maintain mortars. Even if you feel threatened by gangsters or a New World Order. No bazookas, no Sherman tanks, no hand grenades.”
“That’s because the Second Amendment clearly states the government has a right to regulate militias, made up of individuals. They have that right in the name of public safety. Therefore, Congress should debate what kind of weapons should be available for public sale. And the states, the individual states, should decide what kind of carry laws are good for their own people.”
- Bill O'Reilly, Tuesday
jump to 0:30 if you want
“There is too much gun crime in the USA, and high-powered weaponry is too easy to get. That’s the fact. So let’s deal with it. We all have the right to bear arms, but we don’t have the right to buy and maintain mortars. Even if you feel threatened by gangsters or a New World Order. No bazookas, no Sherman tanks, no hand grenades.”
There's to much gun crime in the USA? Bullshit , gun crime and overall violence is down and this is at a time when personal gun ownership is at it's highest. See third picture. And the .223 is NOT " high powered "
We all have the right to bear arms, but we don’t have the right to buy and maintain mortars. Even if you feel threatened by gangsters or a New World Order. No bazookas, no Sherman tanks, no hand grenades.
Strawman and Non-sequitur. We're talking about firearms
“That’s because the Second Amendment clearly states the government has a right to regulate militias, made up of individuals. They have that right in the name of public safety. Therefore, Congress should debate what kind of weapons should be available for public sale. And the states, the individual states, should decide what kind of carry laws are good for their own people.”
Congress has already decided what weapons are for sale to the general public. They've even " banned " some weapons and after a 10 year ban they concluded that the ban had ZERO effect on gun violence , now ignorant people are again asking congress for the exact same thing ::)
The state of Connecticut has had an Assault Weapons Ban in effect since 1993 , the rifle Adam Lanza used to murder all the children at Sandy Hook was NOT by the sates own definition an " Assault Weapon " Congrats Connecticut look what you accomplished. Want to " ban " these rifles some more?
Bill O'Reily is just as ignorant as you are.
How would an " Assault Weapons Ban " prevent any Mass shooting? Experts Chime in , I've been waiting for a salient explanation for quite some time now.
Second picture , ONE " Pre-Ban " AR15 , the other three are NOT by federal & state definitions an " Assault Weapon " explain how your friends at .Gov have made you any safer?
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If ANY of you have any integrity and are genuinely interested in facts please read all of this.
The Costs and Consequences of Gun Control
http://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/costs-consequences-gun-control
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You're not being deployed in Florida
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Thanks for the comment- now back to reality: Bosnia, Croatia, Florida it makes NO difference to me... identify your enemy and engage.
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...and God bless you brother.
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THANKS BRO!!!!!!!!
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Although the .223 caliber AR15 is a potent weapon, the power of the cartridge pales in comparison to the .308 caliber military rifles and most common hunting rifles. Still, at close range they are very lethal. A small yet fast projectile with a significant yaw causes unique damage to the body. Not alot of recoil either. I don't know what the answer is to these mass shootings. Personally, I have a Kimber Ultra Carry II in .45 acp. It will do the job for personal defense.
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TRY carrying a 7.62 (308) on patrol for 6 or 7 hours with several magazines...
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I'm not a gun expert at all, but I would think that for a small enclosed space, a shotgun would be more devastating than a semi automatic rifle.
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I'm not a gun expert at all, but I would think that for a small enclosed space, a shotgun would be more devastating than a semi automatic rifle.
You would be correct. Capacity is far less on the shotgun though.
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You would be correct. Capacity is far less on the shotgun though.
Yes, but if you saw it off, the pattern could hit 4 or 5 people with one shell.
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Some more facts for the ignorant
Top 10 myths about mass shootings
Myth: Mass shootings are on the rise.
Reality: Over the past three decades, there has been an average of 20 mass shootings a year in the United States, each with at least four victims killed by gunfire. Occasionally, and mostly by sheer coincidence, several episodes have been clustered closely in time. Over all, however, there has not been an upward trajectory. To the contrary, the real growth has been in the style and pervasiveness of news-media coverage, thanks in large part to technological advances in reporting.
Myth: Mass murderers snap and kill indiscriminately.
Reality: Mass murderers typically plan their assaults for days, weeks, or months. They are deliberate in preparing their missions and determined to follow through, no matter what impediments are placed in their path.
Myth: Enhanced background checks will keep dangerous weapons out of the hands of these madmen.
Reality: Most mass murderers do not have criminal records or a history of psychiatric hospitalization. They would not be disqualified from purchasing their weapons legally. Certainly, people cannot be denied their Second Amendment rights just because they look strange or act in an odd manner. Besides, mass killers could always find an alternative way of securing the needed weaponry, even if they had to steal from family members or friends.
Myth: Restoring the federal ban on assault weapons will prevent these horrible crimes.
Reality: The overwhelming majority of mass murderers use firearms that would not be restricted by an assault-weapons ban. In fact, semiautomatic handguns are far more prevalent in mass shootings. Of course, limiting the size of ammunition clips would at least force a gunman to pause to reload or switch weapons.
Myth: Greater attention and response to the telltale warning signs will allow us to identify would-be mass killers before they act.
Reality: While there are some common features in the profile of a mass murderer (depression, resentment, social isolation, tendency to blame others for their misfortunes, fascination with violence, and interest in weaponry), those characteristics are all fairly prevalent in the general population. Any attempt to predict would produce many false positives. Actually, the telltale warning signs come into clear focus only after the deadly deed.
Myth: Widening the availability of mental-health services and reducing the stigma associated with mental illness will allow unstable individuals to get the treatment they need.
Reality: With their tendency to externalize blame and see themselves as victims of mistreatment, mass murderers perceive the problem to be in others, not themselves. They would generally resist attempts to encourage them to seek help. And, besides, our constant references to mass murderers as “wackos†or “sickos†don’t do much to destigmatize the mentally ill.
Myth: Increasing security in schools and other places will deter mass murder.
Reality: Most security measures will serve only as a minor inconvenience for those who are dead set on mass murder. If anything, excessive security and a fortress-like environment serve as a constant reminder of danger and vulnerability.
Myth: Students need to be prepared for the worst by participating in lockdown drills.
Reality: Lockdown drills can be very traumatizing, especially for young children. Also, it is questionable whether they would recall those lessons amid the hysteria associated with an actual shooting. The faculty and staff need to be adequately trained, and the kids just advised to listen to instructions. Schools should take the same low-key approach to the unlikely event of a shooting as the airlines do to the unlikely event of a crash. Passengers aren’t drilled in evacuation procedures but can assume the crew is sufficiently trained.
Myth: Expanding “right to carry†provisions will deter mass killers or at least stop them in their tracks and reduce the body counts.
Reality: Mass killers are often described by surviving witnesses as being relaxed and calm during their rampages, owing to their level of planning. In contrast, the rest of us are taken by surprise and respond frantically. A sudden and wild shootout involving the assailant and citizens armed with concealed weapons would potentially catch countless innocent victims in the crossfire.
Myth: We just need to enforce existing gun laws as well as increase the threat of the death penalty.
Reality: Mass killers typically expect to die, usually by their own hand or else by first responders. Nothing in the way of prosecution or punishment would divert them from their missions. They are ready to leave their miserable existence, but want some payback first.
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Wow, ND, why are you losing your mind over this? lol.
As you said, no one is going to take away your guns.
I guess its fun to argue on getbig though. :) :)
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Wow, ND, why are you losing your mind over this? lol.
As you said, no one is going to take away your guns.
I guess its fun to argue on getbig though. :) :)
It's fun to educate the ignorant masses on Getbig and reality 8)
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It's fun to educate the ignorant masses on Getbig and reality 8)
But you realize education only occurs when people change their cognitive framework about a topic? Thus, they become more informed and educated about a topic.
This is getbig. Trust me, you have not educated anyone. :D :D ;D ;D
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But you realize education only occurs when people change their cognitive framework about a topic? Thus, they become more informed and educated about a topic.
This is getbig. Trust me, you have not educated anyone. :D :D ;D ;D
You can show people why the "talking points" they use to pass for arguments, are as worthless as the TV channel they got it from.
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You can show people why the "talking points" they use to pass for arguments, are as worthless as the TV channel they got it from.
And education only occurs when people modify their cognitive framework, in order to discard useless talking points and include better ones.
That hardly ever occurs on getbig. No one on this site really learns anything.
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It's fun to educate the ignorant masses on Getbig and reality 8)
I think you are posting a lot of compelling, straight forward, factual information. Some people may be unwilling to consider your points but they are still valuable.
There needs to be a sane, factual response to the hysterical nonsense that's being pushed by Democrat politicians and the media.
For too long traditional Americans have been silent and have allowed certain groups to crap all over the truth and spread their mental illness to the uninformed.
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Oh, now I get it. Thank you.
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I appreciate all the information. Interesting and entertaining, thanks. I think you'd also be more persuasive posting a bunch of pictures of hot chicks and body builders with guns.
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If gun control were a topic people wanted to be educated on we wouldn't be having the discussion.
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I don't really want an AR in a gunfight because I don't want to chop up the neighbors who live 8 houses away. Multiple backdrops becomes a huge issue there.
They're great in war where you're okay with your bullet taking a bite out of 3 bad guys.
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I don't really want an AR in a gunfight because I don't want to chop up the neighbors who live 8 houses away. Multiple backdrops becomes a huge issue there.
They're great in war where you're okay with your bullet taking a bite out of 3 bad guys.
Tell me what ammo you are using that can penetrate through 8 houses and I'll buy 10 cases immediately.
Or perhaps you don't know jack shit about the ballistics of a 5.56 round. No offense.
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'The Voice Mexico' Singer Shot In Head: Lucero Reacts As Alejandro 'Jano' Fuentes Fights For Life
Source: Latin Times
'The Voice Mexico' Singer Shot In Head: Lucero Reacts As Alejandro 'Jano' Fuentes Fights For Life
By Latin Times | Jun 17 2016, 09:35PM EDT
Alejandro "Jano" Fuentes was a contestant during Season 1 of "La Voz México." The singer is battling for his life after he was shot in the head multiple times in Chicago on Thursday night. NBC Chicago reports that Jano was in his car when a man walked up and ordered him to get out, when Fuentes refused the gunman shot him three times. The unidentified man fled the scene in a car that was a short distance away.
"It's so difficult. We love Jano. Everyone who knows him. We love him and everybody is concerned about it," said Anacelly Nava, Fuentes' friend, according to ABC7 Chicago. ""You can see inside a waiting room full of people who want to see him. He's a beautiful person, he's a loving person, and hopefully he stays with us."
Fuentes runs a school for young performers in the city of Chicago called Tras Bambalinas. He also participated on the Mexican version of "The Voice" where he was coached by Lucero. The Mexican singer has already reacted on social media writing the following: "I ask you for a prayer for Jano Fuentes my great friend, great artist that suffered an accident and is critical during these moments."
Miguel Sanchez, a close friend of Jano told NBC5: "We are feeling confused and we have no explanation why all these things are happening. We are very sad because it's something you don't expect to happen to your close friends." Although they don't know who did this Sanchez adds, "It wasn't random. This guy, they were waiting for him. They were waiting for him to come out of the school.”
Read more: http://www.latintimes.com/voice-mexico-singer-shot-head-lucero-reacts-alejandro-jano-fuentes-fights-life-391076
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Tell me what ammo you are using that can penetrate through 8 houses and I'll buy 10 cases immediately.
Or perhaps you don't know jack shit about the ballistics of a 5.56 round. No offense.
I press my own rounds at home, using a combination of gunpowder and creatine.
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The constitution of the United states guarantees is the right to have guns, not sticks.
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The constitution of the United states guarantees is the right to have guns, not sticks.
you can't have mortars, you can't have machine guns, you can't have bazookas, you can't have hand grenades. The Constitution allows regulation of weapons.
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you can't have mortars, you can't have machine guns, you can't have bazookas, you can't have hand grenades. The Constitution allows regulation of weapons.
Keep repeating those lies Tim. You can have machine guns https://www.atf.gov/qa-category/national-firearms-act-nfa No shame in your ignorance huh? You're exactly the problem , keep repeating lies and misinformation.
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The constitution of the United states guarantees is the right to have guns, not sticks.
Taking away the bad kid's stick makes more sense than cutting down the forest.
I can't believe someone came up with a meme that fucking stupid.
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Keep repeating those lies Tim. You can have machine guns https://www.atf.gov/qa-category/national-firearms-act-nfa No shame in your ignorance huh? You're exactly the problem , keep repeating lies and misinformation.
from your link
May machine guns be transferred from one registered owner to another?
Yes. If the machine gun was lawfully registered and possessed before May 19, 1986, it may be transferred pursuant to an approved ATF Form 4 (5320.4).
searching elsewhere
In May of 1986 Reagan signed a bill into law that prohibited the registration of new machine guns for civilian use. Those FFL/SOT’s that make machine guns now can only sell them to other dealers or government agencies (FBI, US Army etc). Machine guns registered before May 1986 can be sold to anyone that lives in a state where they not banned and is 21 years or older
so, yes dealers can own a machine gun, but also yes, it is not unconstitutional to put restrictions on guns, such as limiting the ownership of new ones to registered dealers. Also, states can ban them outright.
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from your link
May machine guns be transferred from one registered owner to another?
Yes. If the machine gun was lawfully registered and possessed before May 19, 1986, it may be transferred pursuant to an approved ATF Form 4 (5320.4).
searching elsewhere
In May of 1986 Reagan signed a bill into law that prohibited the registration of new machine guns for civilian use. Those FFL/SOT’s that make machine guns now can only sell them to other dealers or government agencies (FBI, US Army etc). Machine guns registered before May 1986 can be sold to anyone that lives in a state where they not banned and is 21 years or older
so, yes dealers can own a machine gun, but also yes, it is not unconstitutional to put restrictions on guns, such as banning the manufacturing of new ones, and limiting the ownership of older ones to registered dealers.
Fuck me you just don't get it. ::) Any law abiding personal citizen who applies can legally purchase and own a machine gun. NOT just dealers.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/how-can-person-legally-obtain-nfa-firearms
A person may transfer an NFA firearm to another person by filing and receiving an approved ATF Form 4, Application for Tax Paid Transfer and Registration of Firearm.
And again Tim , 3 out of 4 of these rifles are NOT considered " assault weapons " by Federal and State definitions. Please explain to me how these are any less lethal and how they would have prevented any mass shooting.
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guns dont kill people
people kill people
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Look at machine gun for sale :o http://www.gunbroker.com/item/564134382 Oh no's another one http://www.gunbroker.com/item/565514762
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Keep repeating those lies Tim. You can have machine guns https://www.atf.gov/qa-category/national-firearms-act-nfa No shame in your ignorance huh? You're exactly the problem , keep repeating lies and misinformation.
Tim please see the thread on Rico Piano firing the hell out of an automatic weapon. That's a machine gun. Automatic. All the rest are on trigger pull one bullet. And you can own them, no problem.
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guns dont kill people
people kill people
Actually guns don't kill people. Zombies kill people. Guns kill zombies.
;D
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from your link
May machine guns be transferred from one registered owner to another?
Yes. If the machine gun was lawfully registered and possessed before May 19, 1986, it may be transferred pursuant to an approved ATF Form 4 (5320.4).
searching elsewhere
In May of 1986 Reagan signed a bill into law that prohibited the registration of new machine guns for civilian use. Those FFL/SOT’s that make machine guns now can only sell them to other dealers or government agencies (FBI, US Army etc). Machine guns registered before May 1986 can be sold to anyone that lives in a state where they not banned and is 21 years or older
so, yes dealers can own a machine gun, but also yes, it is not unconstitutional to put restrictions on guns, such as limiting the ownership of new ones to registered dealers. Also, states can ban them outright.
You're a regular Grand Funk Railroad song in reverse, i.e., T.N.U.C.
Yeah, that is an actual song but you're nowhere near the greatness of GFR, just a T.N.U.C.
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you can't have mortars, you can't have machine guns, you can't have bazookas, you can't have hand grenades. The Constitution allows regulation of weapons.
And AIDS was spread via men boofing men. Take away their wang and sew their buttholes shut. You've got no constipational right to buttfuck one another and spread a murderous disease. I think you must have your penis and anus registered as being STD free and have to pass a course in safe buttsecks every other week and be subject to random condom checks if you want to be a homosexual penis holder (your own or your casual partner). You want to own a dick and pound butts with it or get your rump rammed? You need to be regulated and controlled.
I would say that you need a Concealed Carry because any homosexual penis should be considered a weapon of (m)ass destruction given that you will hump just about anything male that bends over in a truck stop restroom. This is not true of most homosexuals I have known. They were just men that preferred men. Gun owners. Conservatives. But you? Anything goes so long as its what you want and the government pays for it.
How does that sound you pathetic imitation of life? If something interferes with your constipational rights you get all huffy but if it just removes or violates someone else's Constitutional Rights you don't give a flying fist. This ain't Uranus, it's Earth.
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If every kid had a stick to start with the first bastard probably wouldn't have hit anyone with his stick!
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And AIDS was spread via men boofing men. Take away their wang and sew their buttholes shut. You've got no constipational right to buttfuck one another and spread a murderous disease. I think you must have your penis and anus registered as being STD free and have to pass a course in safe buttsecks every other week and be subject to random condom checks if you want to be a homosexual penis holder (your own or your casual partner). You want to own a dick and pound butts with it or get your rump rammed? You need to be regulated and controlled.
I would say that you need a Concealed Carry because any homosexual penis should be considered a weapon of (m)ass destruction given that you will hump just about anything male that bends over in a truck stop restroom. This is not true of most homosexuals I have known. They were just men that preferred men. Gun owners. Conservatives. But you? Anything goes so long as its what you want and the government pays for it.
How does that sound you pathetic imitation of life? If something interferes with your constipational rights you get all huffy but if it just removes or violates someone else's Constitutional Rights you don't give a flying fist. This ain't Uranus, it's Earth.
By their logic: The spread of AIDS could have been halted by banning homosexuality.
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"In May of 1986 Reagan signed a bill into law that prohibited the registration of new machine guns for civilian use. Those FFL/SOT’s that make machine guns now can only sell them to other dealers or government agencies (FBI, US Army etc). Machine guns registered before May 1986 can be sold to anyone that lives in a state where they not banned and is 21 years or older"
Reagan really did wreck gun rights, many forget that.
There's a pic of me and my brother and my dad. It must be 83 or 84. My dad is a FFL (federal firearms dealer) back then. Taking pics on the couch, an M16 and some hunting rifle just leaning in the corner like umbrellas. Crazy how times have changed. Guns were just like power tools or kitchen knives back then.
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By their logic: The spread of AIDS could have been halted by banning homosexuality.
which makes no fucking sense. When shit is illegal, it is more risky. Look at drug addicts and sharing needles.
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which makes no fucking sense. When shit is illegal, it is more risky. Look at drug addicts and sharing needles.
Not every "want" should be legalized.
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Not every "want" should be legalized.
You weight the pros and cons like everything in life.
Losing the War on drugs is costing taxpayers 40 billion a year.
Many die from bad drugs, needles, and crime around drugs.
The government made $86.7 million in 2015 taxes weed in Colorado.
Etc.
vs your want that drugs remain illegal.
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You weight the pros and cons like everything in life.
Losing the War on drugs is costing taxpayers 40 billion a year.
Many die from bad drugs, needles, and crime around drugs.
The government made $86.7 million in 2015 taxes weed in Colorado.
Etc.
vs your want that drugs remain illegal.
True. Personally I think the death penalty for drug dealers should be used as often as they are caught and proven (important) to be guilty of same. Heroin is a bitch as are meth and a whole host of other drugs. I lost my younger brother to suicide as drugs messed him up big time. His choice, illegal or not. That stuff is terrible and wreaks havoc on those that take it and those that know and sometimes, love them.
It is not a case of it is what it is, but rather it is what we allow it to be.
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You weight the pros and cons like everything in life.
Losing the War on drugs is costing taxpayers 40 billion a year.
Many die from bad drugs, needles, and crime around drugs.
The government made $86.7 million in 2015 taxes weed in Colorado.
Etc.
vs your want that drugs remain illegal.
I may agree with your ultimate conclusion, but I think legalizing drugs would mean bodies in the streets by the thousands before things normalized out. Many more junkies and many more junkies dying from lack of control. I think there would be massive costs from this, legalize it and let them all OD position also.
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If the teacher coming to take the stick away was not going to get there and take the stick away for long enough that I knew for sure my kid and others would still be getting hit by that kid with the stick I'd want my kid and others to have sticks also. Cmon cops can't protect you, they won't be there and they owe you no duty of protection. Could be a long time before they show, then they will make sure they themselves are safe before going in (which is fine).
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I may agree with your ultimate conclusion, but I think legalizing drugs would mean bodies in the streets by the thousands before things normalized out. Many more junkies and many more junkies dying from lack of control. I think there would be massive costs from this, legalize it and let them all OD position also.
it would force junkies to go the doctor and it would check a lot of them in check.
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Lol, so we're "children", now. Some seriously psycho trash, right here.
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it would force junkies to go the doctor and it would check a lot of them in check.
Yeah just like with the prescription opiates now. Hah, it would be ten times worse, hard core junkies aren't controlling shit. And what about tweakers? Legalize meth, great.
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I don't really want an AR in a gunfight because I don't want to chop up the neighbors who live 8 houses away. Multiple backdrops becomes a huge issue there.
They're great in war where you're okay with your bullet taking a bite out of 3 bad guys.
Precisely why I buy hollow points for handguns. Cheap metal jackets for range.
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I urge anyone that has been posting in this thread to watch this video and hear what Trey Gowdy says about the 2nd Amendment. It's a short clip.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/06/18/that-is-not-my-question-trey-gowdy-absolutely-grills-dhs-official-on-second-amendment-due-process/
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I saw that clip and it's spot on.
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I urge anyone that has been posting in this thread to watch this video and hear what Trey Gowdy says about the 2nd Amendment. It's a short clip.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/06/18/that-is-not-my-question-trey-gowdy-absolutely-grills-dhs-official-on-second-amendment-due-process/
It's true , they arbitrary put people on this " list " without due process you're presumed guilty until you try and prove you're " innocent " and good luck proving you're not a " terrorist "
http://www.cato.org/blog/no-guns-list-still-isnt-answer
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The last few years = more mas5ns murders than the former presidents combined. U guys haaaave to see that wool is being pulled over ur eyes the ar 15 is the nato gun. They do not want it in civlian hands. This way when martial law is falled , they will have An upper hand. I know this narrative. They even use the same crisis actors. Not saying all mass shootings are fake. But some are. And they never let fresh kill meat go without planting their nasty crisis actors and while there are never tears, moms and dads first order of businesz is using the platform to spew their verbal diarrhea about getting rid of automatic (nope a ar is a one pull, one shot) assault weapons. If Constitution clearly states is that the right to bear arms is too mainly prevent Domination by a tyrannical government then why should we be armed with rubber bands and sling shots while the government is armed with tanks.
I too was soooo skeptical. But. Its crazy. Too much evidence. One word. WT7. Cant say more
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Sooo.....new ar15 or ak?
Or both?? :D
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Sooo.....new ar15 or ak?
Or both?? :D
Gun Shop Sells 30,000 AR-15s in Week Following Orlando Attack
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/06/19/gun-shop-sells-30000-ar-15s-in-week-following-orlando-attack/
Keep calling for a ban morons , you're only increasing the demand and proliferation
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Sooo.....new ar15 or ak?
Or both?? :D
Definitely both.
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Sooo.....new ar15 or ak?
Or both?? :D
I've owned both.... I actually liked the AK better. AR was classier. AK, like the glock, just simple and rugged as fck.
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Definitely both.
Turners has a nice sale on Colt M4's right now, didn't have the AK I was looking for though, might have to be an internet purchase. :(
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Sooo.....new ar15 or ak?
Or both?? :D
I'd go with two ARs. I like to have multiple weapons that shoot the same ammo. SHTF purposes.
Plus, AK47s are for hajis. Spray and pray.
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Turners has a nice sale on Colt M4's right now, didn't have the AK I was looking for though, might have to be an internet purchase. :(
Trip to the gun friendly state next door I say.
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Wayne LaPierre the head of the NRA just said you can't be a strong supporter of the 2nd Amendment and working against Trump. Boom.
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Wayne LaPierre the head of the NRA just said you can't be a strong supporter of the 2nd Amendment and working against Trump. Boom.
That grossly oversimplifies our government.
Just yesterday te Senate crushed the anti-gun measures they presented. Trump didn't have anything to do with that.
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it would force junkies to go the doctor and it would check a lot of them in check.
lol, no it wouldn't. Junkies tend to irresponsible, especially with the harder drugs. And of course many are not working, so who is going to pay for the visit? And junkies will still commit crimes--theft, etc.
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Wayne LaPierre the head of the NRA just said you can't be a strong supporter of the 2nd Amendment and working against Trump. Boom.
Wayne LaPierre is a fucking clown , tried to blame video games on gun violence & mass shootings ::) Fuck him and the NRA
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so you think "your rights(sane normal people)" are more important than protecting your country as a whole???
Protecting individual rights is protecting the nation as a whole. This is the difference between USA and socialist countries, our government is based on protecting the individual's rights as opposed to the collectives rights.
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I love the silly and empty headed push to "ban" the AR-15...and only the AR-15. Like this Orlando Muslim psycho wouldn't have just got another rifle or procured one illegally (like all criminals) to complete his Islam driven slaughter.
Clueless.
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I love the silly and empty headed push to "ban" the AR-15...and only the AR-15. Like this Orlando Muslim psycho wouldn't have just got another rifle or procured one illegally (like all criminals) to complete his Islam driven slaughter.
Clueless.
He didn't even use an AR15
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He didn't even use an AR15
What did he use? ???
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What did he use? ???
a sig sauer, very similar to the AR15, but not quite the same.
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a sig sauer, very similar to the AR15, but not quite the same.
Your precious Glock will be next.
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Gun Shop Sells 30,000 AR-15s in Week Following Orlando Attack
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/06/19/gun-shop-sells-30000-ar-15s-in-week-following-orlando-attack/
Keep calling for a ban morons , you're only increasing the demand and proliferation
The NH range I went to fathers day has a big gun shop and they were cleaned out. I've heard most NH shops have sold a ton of them.
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I don't necessarily agree with every word of this article but I find some of the basic points to be both interesting and firmly grounded in reality.
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/146307088451/why-gun-control-cant-be-solved-in-the-usa
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I don't necessarily agree with every word of this article but I find some of the basic points to be both interesting and firmly grounded in reality.
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/146307088451/why-gun-control-cant-be-solved-in-the-usa
Terrible article. The author (a Dem) states the Republicans ideology for having guns is to protect themselves against Dems. While that is true, it's only a very small part of a Republicans support for guns. The author is a dipshit. ::)
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The NH range I went to fathers day has a big gun shop and they were cleaned out. I've heard most NH shops have sold a ton of them.
Walter, is that the Granite St. range in Hudson? (a decent indoor range)...
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Your precious Glock will be next.
when?
I heard the same thing in 2007 when obama took office with a dem Congress.
And I don't support an AWB. I just support closing the loophole saying a person can walk out of prison and buy any gun in a private sale... I have always disliked that.
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when?
I heard the same thing in 2007 when obama took office with a dem Congress.
And I don't support an AWB. I just support closing the loophole saying a person can walk out of prison and buy any gun in a private sale... I have always disliked that.
I heard the same thing in 2007 when obama took office with a dem Congress.
You think they'll stop at ARs? Especially when they figure out that the real problem is semiautomatic pistols.
And I don't support an AWB. I just support closing the loophole saying a person can walk out of prison and buy any gun in a private sale... I have always disliked that.
There is NO " loophole " saying a convicted felon can buy a gun. The moment a legal owner who sells a gun to a prohibited person it's against the law. You're almost as bad as the antis spreading misinformation.
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Why do anything??
The American sheeple DO realize that gun violence is DOWN significantly in the last 20 years right????????????????????
Study: Gun homicides, violence down sharply in past 20 years
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/08/us/study-gun-homicide/
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Why do anything??
The American sheeple DO realize that gun violence is DOWN significantly in the last 20 years right????????????????????
Study: Gun homicides, violence down sharply in past 20 years
Study: Gun homicides, violence down sharply in past 20 years - CNN.com
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NICS checks for guns straight up , Violent crime straight down.
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There is NO " loophole " saying a convicted felon can buy a gun. The moment a legal owner who sells a gun to a prohibited person it's against the law. You're almost as bad as the antis spreading misinformation.
the loophole says a private sale doesn't require any ID, receipt or background check.
perhaps it is "de facto" and not "de jure", but it sure still happens.
I'm not a fan of private sales because there is no accountability.
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when?
I heard the same thing in 2007 when obama took office with a dem Congress.
And I don't support an AWB. I just support closing the loophole saying a person can walk out of prison and buy any gun in a private sale... I have always disliked that.
That's already illegal for any felon to possess a firearm. Somehow they still manage to get them, more laws will definitely help stop them!!
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Walter, is that the Granite St. range in Hudson? (a decent indoor range)...
Yes it is. I really liked the range and especially the people working there. It was free for dads and vets (and free rentals).
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That's already illegal for any felon to possess a firearm. Somehow they still manage to get them, more laws will definitely help stop them!!
but the SELLER is often a law-abiding citizen. ;) That is the key. Most sellers love their guns, love their money, but would NOT illegally sell a weapon. But the loophole assures they don't even have to ask if the person is a felon or anything else.
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but the SELLER is often a law-abiding citizen. ;) That is the key. Most sellers love their guns, love their money, but would NOT illegally sell a weapon. But the loophole assures they don't even have to ask if the person is a felon or anything else.
And making a law will change that? Lol
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And making a law will change that? Lol
Can't I just say I gave it to them?
It's against the law to give things?
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I have my opinion: there is no place for assault weapons in a civilized society. But I know banning all guns is not going to happen. Other countries have regulations of one sort or another, and don't have the mass shootings we do. We can do something about this problem.
Where is the gun violence in Vermont or New Hampshire where nearly everyone has a gun and there is nearly no gun control? ???
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A petition already has been started.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/ban-ar-15-civilian-ownership
Guns in America is a complicated issue for many reasons. However, the AR-15 is the weapon of choice for Domestic Terrorists and others who wish to kill and harm people quickly and efficiently. It serves no other purpose other than to accomplish this. Banning this gun will show that we can act on this issue. It will have symbolic weight while also making one small step forward on dealing with this epidemic.
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http://www.salon.com/2016/06/13/nobody_needs_an_ar_15_the_orlando_massacre_teaches_us_again_that_we_must_ban_semi_automatic_human_killing_machines/
Nobody needs an AR-15: The Orlando massacre teaches us (again) that we must ban semi-automatic human killing machines. Do it now: Congress must ban military-style weapons and make it harder for terrorists to act on their hate
We’ve had yet another horrific mass shooting. In fact, it’s the worst mass shooting in American history. More than fifty people were killed and many more wounded in a nightclub that catered to gay people in Orlando Florida. At the moment I’m writing this, what we know is that these murders were carried out by an American Muslim by the name of Omar Mateen, the son of Afghan immigrants who was born in New York 29 years ago. We know that he called 911 during the killing and reportedly pledged allegiance to ISIS and mentioned the Tsarnaev brothers (who were not ISIS, for what it’s worth). We know the FBI had been aware of some radical connections and jihadist “leanings” and had interviewed him in the past. His father reported that he was an angry homophobe. His ex-wife said he was a violent domestic abuser who was mentally unstable. He was a hate-filled, violent piece of work.
I conquer. I'm 100% for banning the AR-15, as well as banning religion from politics. A TRUE separation of church and state, not just in theory, but in practice.
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I conquer. I'm 100% for banning the AR-15, as well as banning religion from politics. A TRUE separation of church and state, not just in theory, but in practice.
Well done, sir.
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Can't I just say I gave it to them?
It's against the law to give things?
It's a federal law that says no convicted felon can own a gun. Sold or gifted, it's a felony. Even having a gun in the house with a convicted felon living there is sketchy with lots of maybes.
I have to laugh at people like 240 that think some law will change anything.
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It's a federal law that says no convicted felon can own a gun. Sold or gifted, it's a felony. Even having a gun in the house with a convicted felon living there is sketchy with lots of maybes.
I have to laugh at people like 240 that think some law will change anything.
Definitely true.
Criminals never care. They are criminals.
I was just wondering if you're a non felony and someone just "gives" you the gun. What can they do?
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Definitely true.
Criminals never care. They are criminals.
I was just wondering if you're a non felony and someone just "gives" you the gun. What can they do?
From what I've gathered that is only legal for parent/child transfers. All others are supposed to go through an FFL.
Besides, it's only illegal if you get caught. :D
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Definitely true.
Criminals never care. They are criminals.
I was just wondering if you're a non felony and someone just "gives" you the gun. What can they do?
Absolutely nothing. My father and I give each other guns all the time. Usually birthdays and X-mas. :D
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From what I've gathered that is only legal for parent/child transfers. All others are supposed to go through an FFL.
Besides, it's only illegal if you get caught. :D
That's exactly how I look at it.
I'm safe anyway. I look white enough. ;)
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Instant background checks are only required when going through an FFL, not for private sales. This was the compromise that was worked out in order to get background checks for gun stores. Trying to regulate private sales was a sure political loser back then and it still is. Most all gun control measures are big losers for libs despite the media playing it up every time there is a shooting.
Requiring checks for all gun sales makes creating a list of gun owners much easier. Libs want that list eventually so confiscation can occur. It's obvious, but there are too many gun owners in this country for that to ever be politically viable.
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And making a law will change that? Lol
Yes. Yes it will. Many law-abiding people will stop selling firearms in private sales.
I don't get the "people won't follow laws anyway..."
Many of those selling guns will stop, period.
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Banning guns in America is about as possible as banning Schmoes on Getbig.
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Yes. Yes it will. Many law-abiding people will stop selling firearms in private sales.
I don't get the "people won't follow laws anyway..."
Many of those selling guns will stop, period.
Exactly. Just look at the success of the war on drugs. Oh, wait...
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Yes. Yes it will. Many law-abiding people will stop selling firearms in private sales.
I don't get the "people won't follow laws anyway..."
Many of those selling guns will stop, period.
Lol
Weak troll attempt ;D
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Chaos,
How long until we see some kind of "Gun settlement" designed to pay damages, educate consumers, and get votes, impose a new tax on consumers like with big tobacco?
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Exactly. Just look at the success of the war on drugs. Oh, wait...
There are SOME people who don't use drugs because they're illegal.
Not all people respect the law but SOME do.
Should we cancel all murder laws and live The Purge because SOME people don't follow the murder laws, either?
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Chaos,
How long until we see some kind of "Gun settlement" designed to pay damages, educate consumers, and get votes, impose a new tax on consumers like with big tobacco?
Oh geez...whatever happened to natural selection?
There are SOME people who don't use drugs because they're illegal.
Not all people respect the law but SOME do.
Should we cancel all murder laws and live The Purge because SOME people don't follow the murder laws, either?
And there are SOME people that will never obey laws. Should we strip everyone of their rights until they prove their responsible?
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And there are SOME people that will never obey laws. Should we strip everyone of their rights until they prove their responsible?
What "right" is there to buy guns without paperwork?
Are you equally upset that our cars require registration?
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What "right" is there to buy guns without paperwork?
Are you equally upset that our cars require registration?
I can't take it anymore, I am breaking my own rule by responding to you...........
I don't see anywhere in 2A that states "as long as you have paperwork" I believe it says "shall not be infringed"
Point out in the constitution where driving is a right.........
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I can't take it anymore, I am breaking my own rule by responding to you...........
I don't see anywhere in 2A that states "as long as you have paperwork" I believe it says "shall not be infringed"
Point out in the constitution where driving is a right.........
The forefathers understood the dangers of big Govt.
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I can't take it anymore, I am breaking my own rule by responding to you...........
I don't see anywhere in 2A that states "as long as you have paperwork" I believe it says "shall not be infringed"
There's no "right to sell to felons". it's a thin loophole "you don't even have to ask the person if they're a felon".
There are so many factors that can stop a person - restraining order, mental adjuct, felony records, etc.... People selling guns from trunk without a background check dont catch these.
They're not buying muskets, either...
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I don't see anywhere in 2A that states "as long as you have paperwork" I believe it says "shall not be infringed"
Because the founding fathers were intelligent people. They understood why keeping and carrying arms is important. They also understood that being equipped to shoot someone doesn't make you a murderer. I think back to this famous (and likely made up) story that I posted below. Now I don't believe this "interview" ever took place but it doesn't make the point of it any less accurate.
This is an extract of an National Public Radio (NPR) interview between a female broadcaster and US Army Lieutenant General Reinwald about sponsoring a Boy Scout Troop on his military installation.
Interviewer: "So, LTG Reinwald, what are you going to do with these young boys on their adventure holiday?"
LTG Reinwald: "We're going to teach them climbing, canoeing, archery, and shooting."
Interviewer: "Shooting! That's a bit irresponsible, isn't it?"
LTG Reinwald: "I don't see why, they'll be properly supervised on the range."
Interviewer: "Don't you admit that this is a terribly dangerous activity to be teaching children?"
LTG Reinwald: "I don't see how, we will be teaching them proper range discipline before they even touch a firearm."
Interviewer: "But you're equipping them to become violent killers."
LTG Reinwald: "Well, you're equipped to be a prostitute, but you're not one, are you?"
End of the interview
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Because the founding fathers were intelligent people. They understood why keeping and carrying arms is important. They also understood that being equipped to shoot someone doesn't make you a murderer. I think back to this famous (and likely made up) story that I posted below. Now I don't believe this "interview" ever took place but it doesn't make the point of it any less accurate.
This is an extract of an National Public Radio (NPR) interview between a female broadcaster and US Army Lieutenant General Reinwald about sponsoring a Boy Scout Troop on his military installation.
Interviewer: "So, LTG Reinwald, what are you going to do with these young boys on their adventure holiday?"
LTG Reinwald: "We're going to teach them climbing, canoeing, archery, and shooting."
Interviewer: "Shooting! That's a bit irresponsible, isn't it?"
LTG Reinwald: "I don't see why, they'll be properly supervised on the range."
Interviewer: "Don't you admit that this is a terribly dangerous activity to be teaching children?"
LTG Reinwald: "I don't see how, we will be teaching them proper range discipline before they even touch a firearm."
Interviewer: "But you're equipping them to become violent killers."
LTG Reinwald: "Well, you're equipped to be a prostitute, but you're not one, are you?"
End of the interview
That interview is fake. It never happened:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/reinwald.asp
https://www.truthorfiction.com/npr-reinwald/
This is fiction. No such interview ever took place, according to NPR. Additionally, there are other versions of the rumor that seem to have originated in Great Britain.
http://ssqq.com/archive/intern04.htm
Basically, what she said by the Urban Legends web site was that it was an interesting story, it was plausible, but it was basically a hoax. For one thing, according to their research, the US Army denied there was ever even a Lieutenant General Reinwald in the first place.
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That interview is fake. It never happened:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/reinwald.asp
https://www.truthorfiction.com/npr-reinwald/
This is fiction. No such interview ever took place, according to NPR. Additionally, there are other versions of the rumor that seem to have originated in Great Britain.
http://ssqq.com/archive/intern04.htm
Basically, what she said by the Urban Legends web site was that it was an interesting story, it was plausible, but it was basically a hoax. For one thing, according to their research, the US Army denied there was ever even a Lieutenant General Reinwald in the first place.
SF1900 - You are a freind so please forgive me for being abrupt, but.....did you read my fucking post? I know it isn't real. I said as much.
Also, like I already said, it doesn't mean the point that's being made isn't 100% spot on.
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SF1900 - You are a freind so please forgive me for being abrupt, but.....did you read my fucking post? I know it isn't real. I said as much.
Also, like I already said, it doesn't mean the point that's being made isn't 100% spot on.
Ha I totally missed that first paragraph. My apologies!
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Ha I totally missed that first paragraph. My apologies!
I'd be lying if I said I'd never done that. lol.
No worries my friend. If anything, I admire your commitment to the truth. A lot of fake anecdotes on the internets.
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What "right" is there to buy guns without paperwork?
Are you equally upset that our cars require registration?
The 2nd amendment says nothing of paperwork, that's just the governments way of taxing and tracking people that buy guns.
Which amendment guarantees the right to own and drive a car?
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The 2nd amendment says nothing of paperwork, that's just the governments way of taxing and tracking people that buy guns.
Which amendment guarantees the right to own and drive a car?
It could be argued that fees, paperwork and lists are simply a means to infringe on the 2nd. Our major problem, as someone else mentioned, is that the people that are doing the infringing are the same folks who get to decide what constitutes infringement. As long as this is going on the 2nd amendment is a fraud.
Also, if you read the 2nd amendment it states that the militia should be well regulated. The militia, not gun ownership. The right to keep and carry arms, on the other hand, shall not be infringed. This is very strong language and couldn't be more clear.
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in that case, why should ANY person not be allowed to carry a gun ANYWHERE?
How is it legal to tell someone they cannot carry a gun in a post office or govt building? How can I tell an 18 year old that he cannot carry until he's 21? How can I tell a felon - who has done his time -that he cannot have a gun? How can you tell someone they cannot carry to schools?
Once you say "Shall not be infringed".... well, are you going to let people carry guns when they visit govt buildings now? If you draw the line anywhere, you're infringing. Realistically, do we let people carry AR-15s, full auto, to jury duty?
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in that case, why should ANY person not be allowed to carry a gun ANYWHERE?
How is it legal to tell someone they cannot carry a gun in a post office or govt building? How can I tell an 18 year old that he cannot carry until he's 21? How can I tell a felon - who has done his time -that he cannot have a gun? How can you tell someone they cannot carry to schools?
Once you say "Shall not be infringed".... well, are you going to let people carry guns when they visit govt buildings now? If you draw the line anywhere, you're infringing. Realistically, do we let people carry AR-15s, full auto, to jury duty?
Yes youre right!
Once you tell a person they cannot fuck their wife in Walmart, how can you tell them they CAN FUCK THEIR WIFE IN THEIR CONDO?!
We have no right!
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Banging doesn't have its own amendment saying it shall not be infringed.
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in that case, why should ANY person not be allowed to carry a gun ANYWHERE?
How is it legal to tell someone they cannot carry a gun in a post office or govt building? How can I tell an 18 year old that he cannot carry until he's 21? How can I tell a felon - who has done his time -that he cannot have a gun? How can you tell someone they cannot carry to schools?
Once you say "Shall not be infringed".... well, are you going to let people carry guns when they visit govt buildings now? If you draw the line anywhere, you're infringing. Realistically, do we let people carry AR-15s, full auto, to jury duty?
It isn't, we as a society have allowed this happen
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There's no "right to sell to felons". it's a thin loophole "you don't even have to ask the person if they're a felon".
There are so many factors that can stop a person - restraining order, mental adjuct, felony records, etc.... People selling guns from trunk without a background check dont catch these.
They're not buying muskets, either...
So what is your point? You do realize that most of the artillery used in the open stages of the revolution was privately owned? Up until 1933 you could buy a Thompson sub machine gun full auto with a 50 round drum from the Sears catalog. It is the slow erosion of rights over time. Why shouldn't a citizen have the same access to any weapon the military has? The intention of the 2nd amendment is to keep .gov in check, but according to you, because 1% of the population is not trust worthy the other 99% should be penalized. And you do realize that anyone involved in the colonies breaking away from Britain was considered a felon.
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Ban cigarettes.
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SF1900 - You are a freind
Pfff, just wait.......... ::) ::)
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Texas Gun Nut mother went ape shit and killed daughers and pointed gun at cops who killed her quickly
http://nypost.com/2016/06/27/dont-do-this-dad-begs-wife-who-fatally-shot-daughters/ (http://nypost.com/2016/06/27/dont-do-this-dad-begs-wife-who-fatally-shot-daughters/)
The husband of Texas killer mom Christy Sheats begged her in vain not to shoot their two daughters, a neighbor who witnessed the carnage said Sunday.
“Don’t do this, they’re our kids!” the panicked father, Jason Sheats, screamed to his wife, 42, who shot Taylor, 22, and Madison, 17, before being gunned down herself by cops.
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The chilling witness account surfaced two days after the Friday massacre outside the family’s home in suburban Houston.
The officer who killed Christy feared she was about to pump still more bullets into one of the dying daughters, said the neighbor, Fazz Zainuddin.
“She walked towards the body, I think Madison, already on the ground, and I guess the cop was afraid that she was going to shoot her again,” he told local NBC affiliate KPRC.
Neighbors said the daughters were already bleeding as they ran for their lives on Remson Hollow Lane in the town of Katy, according to a local ABC affiliate.
The carnage happened on the dad’s 45th birthday.
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“He was going through a difficult time,” Fort Bend County Sheriff Troy Nehls told reporters.
Photos posted to social media show medics leading the weeping father through the first moments of life without his daughters and wife.
“All I saw was the police officer aiming his rifle toward someone and saying, ‘Drop your weapons,’ and then afterward another gunshot,” neighbor Sabeeh Siddiqui told ABC.
Authorities believe the killing stemmed from an argument at the home. Neighbors told local media that the couple’s marriage was strained, though they remained shocked that something like this could happen.
“She was just such a sweet girl,” friend Matthew Wiley said of Taylor, the older daughter.
“She had tons of friends. I just can’t believe it happened.”
Photos online show the mom puckering up for selfies with the daughters, who smile broadly.
The mom was an avowed gun-rights advocate who in March posted to Facebook: “It would be horribly tragic if my ability to protect myself or my family were to be taken away,”
In a 2015 post, she wished her “girls” a “Happy Daughters Day,” writing, “My amazing, sweet, kind, beautiful, intelligent girls. I love and treasure you both more than you could ever possibly know.”
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Haha lol ;D ;D
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question for the anti gun people in here, if you had someone break into your house, would you not want to be armed yourself? yes or no, and how is answering no superior? Is this not a practical scenario? All it can take is one occurrence in your life. What if that home owner died because he was denied to be armed?
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What in the genuine fuck?
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question for the anti gun people in here, if you had someone break into your house, would you not want to be armed yourself? yes or no, and how is answering no superior? Is this not a practical scenario? All it can take is one occurrence in your life. What if that home owner died because he was denied to be armed?
Everyone dies.
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question for the anti gun people in here, if you had someone break into your house, would you not want to be armed yourself?
Exactly. And how could you possibly protect your family with anything but an AR?
Anti-gun cuckoos just don't get it, man.
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