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http://patch.com/new-jersey/newbrunswick/n-j-teen-fights-life-after-shes-punched-party-near-rutgers-university
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Both are white...not news worthy.
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Both are white...not news worthy.
She is hot tho
(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/14730539_187092058407632_8528871684743102464_n.jpg)
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"she hit him first but that doesnt give him the right to hit her back"
Fuck that, the stupid bitch...
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That's one hot bitch.
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Scott Hall bus stop at 1:38. ;D
To bad for her, maybe she shouldn't write checks she can't cash.
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I hope she makes a full recovery - she doesn't deserve to be
in the predicament she is
Tho she didn't have the right to hit him in 1st place.
Women need to understand this if they hit some one
likely hood is they going to get hit back.
Mind he Clocked her a good-un - poor lass was lights
out immediately.
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I hope she makes a full recovery - she doesn't deserve to be
in the predicament she is
Tho she didn't have the right to hit him in 1st place.
Women need to understand this if they hit some one
likely hood is they going to get hit back.
Mind he Clocked her a good-un - poor lass was lights
out immediately.
all the video needed was John McCarthy diving on top of her waving his arms.
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all the video needed was John McCarthy diving on top of her waving his arms.
;D Ha ha.
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how do you know she didnt have the right to hit her? you dont know what happened before that
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how do you know she didnt have the right to hit her? you dont know what happened before that
Found the white knight ;D
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She is hot tho
(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/14730539_187092058407632_8528871684743102464_n.jpg)
Yeah she's definitely hittable.....as the video shows.
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how do you know she didnt have the right to hit her? you dont know what happened before that
1, she hit a him.
2, how do you know he didnt have a right to hit her 1st & held back until she hit him.
3, Stop White Knighting You also dont know what went on before.
4, We just commenting on the short clip that was shown.
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Whatever. Look at those nails & lashes. Somewhere a young plumber or mechanic just got spared a shit ton of misery.
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1, she hit a him.
2, how do you know he didnt have a right to hit her 1st & held back until she hit him.
3, Stop White Knighting You also dont know what went on before.
4, We just commenting on the short clip that was shown.
1. yes she did hit him so what?
2. a man hitting a woman in the face? did your parents teach you that?
3. i dont know and because of that i dont comment, maybe you should do the same?
4. see 3
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1. yes she did hit him so what?
2. a man hitting a woman in the face? did your parents teach you that?
3. i dont know and because of that i dont comment, maybe you should do the same?
4. see 3
Dear Mr White Knight
You think its ok for a woman to hit a man - Did your parents teach you that. ::)
Clearly You think its just fine for her to hit him, She could of been a trained boxer / mma
& that's fine with you for her to hit men.
oh just to help you .... you did comment.. ::)
Good day to you.
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Dear Mr White Knight
You think its ok for a woman to hit a man - Did your parents teach you that. ::)
Clearly You think its just fine for her to hit him, She could of been a trained boxer / mma
& that's fine with you for her to hit men.
oh just to help you .... you did comment.. ::)
Good day to you.
i think IT CAN be ok for a woman to hit a man. depending on the situation.
you on the other hand, says IT IS NOT ok, without even knowing the situation.
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She learned a life lesson that can be very valuable.
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I love how the reporter states:
"Video shows Rand landing a punch on a young man. Instead of holding back, he hurls a right fist, knocking her to the ground, where she lays out cold."
So, just because she's a girl, guys are supposed to hold back and get punched in the face? Fuck that shit. Anytime you think about swinging at somebody, you need to consider the consequences. It doesn't matter if you're a guy or a girl. ::)
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I love how the reporter states:
"Video shows Rand landing a punch on a young man. Instead of holding back, he hurls a right fist, knocking her to the ground, where she lays out cold."
So, just because she's a girl, guys are supposed to hold back and get punched in the face? Fuck that shit. Anytime you think about swinging at somebody, you need to consider the consequences. It doesn't matter if you're a guy or a girl. ::)
i think there are plenty of options available to you when getting hit by a girl in the face, something that didnt affect you. knocking the girl out isnt the best one.
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Yeah she's definitely hittable.....as the video shows.
:)
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Never okay to hit a woman. Sorry.
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What was the reason for her attacking him?
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What was the reason for her attacking him?
Alcohol
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Never okay to hit a woman. Sorry.
Wait until you encounter one 1000x more annoying see if you can hold your punches
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dam shes crazy thick n hot she needs to put out more n stop fighting
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this goes to show when people get drunk what can happen
i remember years ago these kids got into a fight outside a bar, one got hit, fell hit his head on the pavement, went home , went to sleep and died from bleeding on the brain.
weird shit happens
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when she recovers..... I can guarantee you she won't him a man in the face again. Not sure how I'd react to a women punching me in the face, I never put myself in that situation though. My extinct would tell me to stomp that bitch out.
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Open question to all the holier than thou white knights in this thread
Have you ever been punched in the face by a woman, and if so what did you do?
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The way this incident was reported was the usual reporting full of sexual innuendo: If you were an independent party and were told of the story except for the sex of the two people involved in the story, THE TONE would lead you to believe one of the persons knocked the other one out, pulled out his cock, fucked the other person in the ass (while passed out) while everyone else around them were recording the proceedings in their iPhones.
Reality was that the woman assaulted the man, the man reacted and she got knocked out. Just as simple as that. It's the media who set the tone by insinuating that defending yourself against a woman is wrong.
BULLSHIT.
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Skinny manlet tough guy knocks out woman, skinny manlet tough guy will maybe get ass-raped by Big Leroy Brown in jail.
Long dong silver going to skewer him?
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Skinny manlet tough guy knocks out woman, skinny manlet tough guy will maybe get ass-raped by Big Leroy Brown in jail.
Long dong silver going to skewer him?
I think you will find that wont happen, the day of the white knight is over.
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shouldve grabbed her fat assed hips n grinded on her instead
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Never okay to hit a woman. Sorry.
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Never okay to hit a woman. Sorry.
what about this one
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1138452/WARNING-GRAPHIC-CONTENT-Nanny-mercilessly-beats-toddler.html
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Easy one, he will be charged and found guilty, probably accept a plea to a lesser charge.
A person claiming self-defense must prove at trial that the self-defense was justified. Generally a person may use reasonable force when it appears reasonably necessary to prevent an impending injury. A person using force in self-defense should use only so much force as is required to repel the attack. Nondeadly force can be used to repel either a nondeadly attack or a deadly attack. Deadly Force may be used to fend off an attacker who is using deadly force but may not be used to repel an attacker who is not using deadly force.
In some cases, before using force that is likely to cause death or serious bodily harm to the aggressor, a person who is under attack should attempt to retreat or escape, but only if an exit is reasonably possible.
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Easy one, he will be charged and found guilty, probably accept a plea to a lesser charge.
A person claiming self-defense must prove at trial that the self-defense was justified. Generally a person may use reasonable force when it appears reasonably necessary to prevent an impending injury. A person using force in self-defense should use only so much force as is required to repel the attack. Nondeadly force can be used to repel either a nondeadly attack or a deadly attack. Deadly Force may be used to fend off an attacker who is using deadly force but may not be used to repel an attacker who is not using deadly force.
In some cases, before using force that is likely to cause death or serious bodily harm to the aggressor, a person who is under attack should attempt to retreat or escape, but only if an exit is reasonably possible.
before you make posts do a simple Google search
General rule[edit]
In the U.S., the general rule is that "[a] person is privileged to use such force as reasonably appears necessary to defend him or herself against an apparent threat of unlawful and immediate violence from another."[1] In cases involving non-deadly force, this means that the person must reasonably believe that their use of force was necessary to prevent imminent, unlawful physical harm.[2] When the use of deadly force is involved in a self-defense claim, the person must also reasonably believe that their use of deadly force is immediately necessary to prevent the other's infliction or great bodily harm or death.[3] Most states no longer require a person to retreat before using deadly force. In the minority of jurisdictions which do require retreat, there is no obligation to retreat when it is unsafe to do so or when one is inside one's own home.[4]
General rule[edit]
In the U.S., the general rule is that "[a] person is privileged to use such force as reasonably appears necessary to defend him or herself against an apparent threat of unlawful and immediate violence from another."
so it would appear if someone punches you its reasonable that you punch them back..
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Equal rights of peace.
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You proved my point:
In cases involving non-deadly force, this means that the person must reasonably believe that their use of force was necessary to prevent imminent, unlawful physical harm
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You proved my point:
In cases involving non-deadly force, this means that the person must reasonably believe that their use of force was necessary to prevent imminent, unlawful physical harm
Exactly, she punched him in the face, and if not stopped he was in danger from her doing it again.
Tell me, using your logic is it OK to shoot someone who pulls a knife on you?
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You proved my point:
In cases involving non-deadly force, this means that the person must reasonably believe that their use of force was necessary to prevent imminent, unlawful physical harm
He responded to a punch in the face with a punch in the face, how was this not justified?
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He responded to a punch in the face with a punch in the face, how was this not justified?
she is on life support
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He responded to a punch in the face with a punch in the face, how was this not justified?
He probably thinks the woman was one of his beloved trannies and therefor exempt.
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Skinny manlet tough guy knocks out woman, skinny manlet tough guy will maybe get ass-raped by Big Leroy Brown in jail.
Long dong silver going to skewer him?
power lift do you think if trump wins the election this poor white boy will have it even worst from tyrone and rayvon
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she is on life support
And?it was just luck she didnt hit him in the right spot.
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she is on life support
and if she had hit him again and he fell and hit his head and ended up on life support you would have said what?
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He probably thinks the woman was one of his beloved trannies and therefor exempt.
the old guy closet Poof ::)
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and if she had hit him again and he fell and hit his head and ended up on life support you would have said what?
I nowt care, I just stated the law..the guy is facing charges etc...
I could care less if you knock women out and justify it, have fun :)
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the old guy closet Poof ::)
You're the manlet with the thread devoted to dudes with boobs. I just point out that you are in fact, and this is clearly evidenced by the aforementioned thread, a lover of the transjenners.
Silly little manlet. The only way this could be worse for you is if you are muslim too.
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I nowt care, I just stated the law..the guy is facing charges etc...
I could care less if you knock women out and justify it, have fun :)
I have already shown you to be wrong about the law (retreating when under threat), you are posting like the trainer/8 inch not biceps now
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You're the manlet with the thread devoted to dudes with boobs. I just point out that you are in fact, and this is clearly evidenced by the aforementioned thread, a lover of the transjenners.
Silly little manlet. The only way this could be worse for you is if you are muslim too.
80 year old Closet Poof Cawk Suker Scott
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Fuck her... She had no right to hit him, swing at him, etc. She won't pull that shit again. Women think they can do/say whatever the fuck they want to a man with no repercussions. Wrong..
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He responded to a punch in the face with a punch in the face, how was this not justified?
That is not the way the jury will see it. It's just the way it is. If she attacked him with a gun or knife, different story.
Her hitting him in the face and him laying her out, will not be perceived as necessary.
I am not saying if he was in the right or wrong--I have no opinion on the matter.
I am just stating how I believe the LAW will see it.
PIP for this guy.
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and if she had hit him again and he fell and hit his head and ended up on life support you would have said what?
But this is not the way it works. A lawyer won't play that angle because its purely hypothetical.
They can only go on the evidence. She hit him in the face. He hit her back. She may die.
Again, PIP for this guy. He will most likely plead out.
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how do you know she didnt have the right to hit [him]? you dont know what happened before that
exactly
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I thought women wanted equality in all matters.
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That is not the way the jury will see it. It's just the way it is. If she attacked him with a gun or knife, different story.
Her hitting him in the face and him laying her out, will not be perceived as necessary.
I am not saying if he was in the right or wrong--I have no opinion on the matter.
I am just stating how I believe the LAW will see it.
PIP for this guy.
How do you know how a jury will see it, what if 12 people on the jury had your opinion?
Isnt it odd, a man can get jailed for hitting a woman who hits him yet another has no charges filed for blowing an unarmed mans head off who trespasses on his property.
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and if she had hit him again and he fell and hit his head and ended up on life support you would have said what?
I nowt care, I just stated the law..the guy is facing charges etc...
I could care less if you knock women out and justify it, have fun :)
You were asked a direct reasonable question by Be There
And are unable to answer it..
After White Knighting For Her -- You Are Found Lacking
When asked to Defend Your Position.. ::)
Tip - Give up trying to argue. You Get Owned.
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The guy's a little runt. Everyone picks on him, even women. He won't get charged because he's a manlet, as anyone who attacks him, male or female, is a threat to his life. It's not like he was standing there kicking her when she was down. He hit her, and got out of harms way, as he saw it. Sure it would have been better if he manned up, and bitch slapped her once, grabbed her pussy, and told her let's go settle this in private, not here. Could have been a happy ending.
Plus, she was drunk/stoned, and out of control, when she hit him. Do stupid shit, and get stupid shit happen to you. Karma's a bitch.
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How do you know how a jury will see it, what if 12 people on the jury had your opinion?
Isnt it odd, a man can get jailed for hitting a woman who hits him yet another has no charges filed for blowing an unarmed mans head off who trespasses on his property.
Well, it also depends on the outcome. If she dies, trust me, he will be found guilty (or will plead out or something). Furthermore, I do not know how a jury will 100% perceive it. However, we knows how society views such situations. Do you really think if she dies, he is not going to either plead out or be convicted? lol haha. Oh boy. This happened in NEW JERSEY, NOT Texas or Arkansas. You obviously do not know the distinct local cultures by state.
Hell, in NYC, a robber tried to enter a MANS HOME and he shoots intruder and is charged with manslaughter (story can be found on google). And you actually think a women hitting a man in the face, and him laying her out, and if she dies, he won't be convicted? ::) ::)
Now this is New Jersey, which states: the amount of force which the defendant uses must be necessary – this defense is unavailable if the actor is unreasonable in his belief about the amount of force necessary and if acting on this unreasonable belief the actor uses an excessive amount of force.
I can guarantee you a Jersey Jury will not believe the force was necessary, especially after viewing her hospital and funeral pictures.
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You were asked a direct reasonable question by Be There
And are unable to answer it..
After White Knighting For Her -- You Are Found Lacking
When asked to Defend Your Position.. ::)
Tip - Give up trying to argue. You Get Owned.
None of us are lawyers here and furthermore, you can never state with 100% certainty how a jury will react.
As I stated above, a man in NYC was charged with manslaughter after an intruder entered his home and he killed him. Jersey and NYC are neighboring states and have many laws which are similar. Based on that evidence, this man is going to face some time of jail or at least be convicted. I can bet you 99.9% that once a jury sees her hospital pictures, its over for him. This man will NOT be let off 100% free. Something will happen.
Again, you're not understanding the difference between the South and Northeast. In NYC (Jersey is also on the NorthEast), if you kill a home intruder, youre automatically charged with murder until proven otherwise (I am pretty sure this is true, based on what a cop told me, but I could be wrong). Anyway, the South and Northeast DRASTICALLY differ how they view such matters.
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None of us are lawyers here and furthermore, you can never state with 100% certainty how a jury will react.
As I stated above, a man in NYC was charged with manslaughter after an intruder entered his home and he killed him. Jersey and NYC are neighboring states and have many laws which are similar. Based on that evidence, this man is going to face some time of jail or at least be convicted. I can bet you 99.9% that once a jury sees her hospital pictures, its over for him. This man will NOT be let off 100% free. Something will happen.
Again, you're not understanding the difference between the South and Northeast. In NYC (Jersey is also on the NorthEast), if you kill a home intruder, youre automatically charged with murder until proven otherwise (I am pretty sure this is true, based on what a cop told me, but I could be wrong). Anyway, the South and Northeast DRASTICALLY differ how they view such matters.
How do you know Who is & is not a legal authority or what Proffesion they are on here.
I do not know what job people do on this board -
Likewise you / they don't know what job I do / have done.
Other than the above - No issue with your post / reasoning.
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How do you know Who is & is not a legal authority or what Proffesion they are on here.
I do not know what job people do on this board -
Likewise you / they don't know what job I do / have done.
Other than the above - No issue with your post / reasoning.
I don't, nor does it really matter who is a lawyer.
There are a lot of instances of people on the NorthEast engaging in supposedly self-defense, and still facing manslaughter or lesser charges. Again, its not the South. And these people were defending themselves against home intruders. And you actually think this man will face zero charges because a 115 pound women hit him in the face? ??? ??? ??? I will wait until he is caught and convicted (or pleas) out to say, "I told you so."
If you think this man will get off 100% Scott-Free, then you do not know much about America, let alone the NorthEast.
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Open question to all the holier than thou white knights in this thread
Have you ever been punched in the face by a woman, and if so what did you do?
i've been punched in the face by both men and women. i've never punched them back, what good would that do?
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I don't, nor does it really matter who is a lawyer.
And you actually think this man will face zero charges because a 115 pound women hit him in the face? ??? ??? ??? I will wait until he is caught and convicted (or pleas) out to say, "I told you so."
If you think this man will get off 100% Scott-Free, then you do not know much about America, let alone the NorthEast.
1, You made the statement Regarding No one Being a Lawyer / expert in law
2, You are totally Wrong with your supposition about what I Think -
I Havnt stated anything about what he is likely to be charged with or found guilty not guilty of?
3, Yet again you are guessing as to what I think - That is a Mistake on your part.
I have commented on what little footage was shown, as to who was the cause of the
Problem in the 1st I have no idea & didn't comment on that.
Or the likely out come of any charges or trial.
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i've been punched in the face by both men and women. i've never punched them back, what good would that do?
You never punched the men back either....
I dunno if I could hit a woman properly tho, maybe a good slap Sean Connery style...( edit, I could full on chin a butch lesbian type thinking about it, perhaps not a normal girl)
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1, You made the statement Regarding No one Being a Lawyer / expert in law
2, You are totally Wrong with your supposition about what I Think -
I Havnt stated anything about what he is likely to be charged with or found guilty not guilty of?
3, Yet again you are guessing as to what I think - That is a Mistake on your part.
I have commented on what little footage was shown, as to who was the cause of the
Problem in the 1st I have no idea & didn't comment on that.
Or the likely out come of any charges or trial.
Fair enough.
Then I will wait to say to Be There, "told you so." :) :)
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You never punched the men back either....
I dunno if I could hit a woman properly tho, maybe a good slap Sean Connery style...( edit, I could full on chin a butch lesbian type thinking about it, perhaps not a normal girl)
there's a few exceptions, that mma woman cyborg being one
and rosanne
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Alcohol
This is the real problem. Some folks just can't handle their alcohol and ruin it for the rest of us who can. I've got a rule that I never drink when I've had a rough day, because alcohol may worsen those effects/affects.
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This is the real problem. Some folks just can't handle their alcohol and ruin it for the rest of us who can. I've got a rule that I never drink when I've had a rough day, because alcohol may worsen those effects/affects.
what if all your days are rough ::) :D
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Fair enough.
Then I will wait to say to Be There, "told you so." :) :)
Thank you.
Also 'Be There'made his Question to 'B.Sheriff' - not your goodself
Unless of course you are also B.Sheriff.... :o ... ;) Ha.
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What happened to "men and women are equal?"
Seems some women only want to be equal when it suits them.
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Fair result. You should never hit another human... If you are a poorly raised violent piece of shit then removing you from the gene pool is a net plus for humanity.
Hopefully the guy gets off scot free and sues her for emotional damage if she recovers.
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Well, it also depends on the outcome. If she dies, trust me, he will be found guilty (or will plead out or something). Furthermore, I do not know how a jury will 100% perceive it. However, we knows how society views such situations. Do you really think if she dies, he is not going to either plead out or be convicted? lol haha. Oh boy. This happened in NEW JERSEY, NOT Texas or Arkansas. You obviously do not know the distinct local cultures by state.
Hell, in NYC, a robber tried to enter a MANS HOME and he shoots intruder and is charged with manslaughter (story can be found on google). And you actually think a women hitting a man in the face, and him laying her out, and if she dies, he won't be convicted? ::) ::)
Now this is New Jersey, which states: the amount of force which the defendant uses must be necessary – this defense is unavailable if the actor is unreasonable in his belief about the amount of force necessary and if acting on this unreasonable belief the actor uses an excessive amount of force.
I can guarantee you a Jersey Jury will not believe the force was necessary, especially after viewing her hospital and funeral pictures.
You can waffle all you like, you keep quoting legislature that validates my argument in the mistaken belief it helps your point of view.
The guy got punched and he punched back, do you seriously think that he thought the legislation through prior to hitting her.
He believed punching her was required to protect himself and acted on that belief.
Now in hindsight he probably still thinks he was in the right to punch her but wishes he hadn't.
Her injuries were most likely caused when she hit the pavement not from the punch, I know that but for his actions she wouldn't have hit the pavement but alternatively but for her actions she wouldn't have been hit.
The law is an ass in cases like this and its about whats morally right that I'm concerned about.
Let me give you a similar question that Board Sheriff ran away from.
Imagine yourself sitting with the grieving parents of the young man in the scenario, he didn't hit the girl back and she hit him again and he ended up dead as a result.
The father says, "if only he had hit her back he would be alive today"
Now, do you say "thats unacceptable, he shouldn't hit a woman"
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Nobody can reasonably expect to inflict the injury she incurred through a mere punch, so it will not be seen in court as an attempt on her life.
Use of deadly force refers to more than landing a simple punch.
Also, gross misrepresentation by the media of the situation at hand. Not least the warped view of the parents and whiteknights.
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I think if there is video evidence that someone is defending themselves that should be the end of it. Maybe he hit her too hard but unless you regularly hit people and know where not to hit them without causing great harm how can you judge. This guy simply reacted, If he'd started pounding her in the face while she was unconscious well that would be an obvious use of excessive force.
He instinctively put an end to the attack as quickly as possible and now he'll suffer for it, shit is really back to front these days. If I were attacked by a woman like this I'd restrain if possible coz of shit like this, I wouldn't want my life fucked up coz of a silly tanked up bitch
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"He believed punching her was required to protect himself and acted on that belief."
do you have some kinda direct access to his mind that you havent told us about?
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"He believed punching her was required to protect himself and acted on that belief."
do you have some kinda direct access to his mind that you havent told us about?
No, its a reasonable expectation , why do you think he chose to punch her?
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what if all your days are rough ::) :D
Eat a bullet?
Seriously though, girl was fucked before she ever even left her house. She is raised by her aunt and uncle. Unless you're Peter Parker, that's probably not the best scenario.
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No, its a reasonable expectation , why do you think he chose to punch her?
people punch eachother all the time, rarely because there is a real need to protect themselves.
most people getting punched by a girl wouldnt punch her back, so how can then punching her back be a requirement?
it cant be, it isnt.
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people punch eachother all the time, rarely because there is a real need to protect themselves.
most people getting punched by a girl wouldnt punch her back, so how can then punching her back be a requirement?
it cant be, it isnt.
what has that got to do with my question, fuck me there are some dipsticks on this forum, they cant even follow basic discussions without rambling.
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what has that got to do with my question, fuck me there are some dipsticks on this forum, they cant even follow basic discussions without rambling.
you assume the only reason he punched her was to protect himself you dont know this. theres not even reason to assume this.
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What if, you caught your girlfriend cheating on you with some blacky, and you confront her about it, and she is like "so what," and starts punching you, tell me you wouldn't knock her out right then and there
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you assume the only reason he punched her was to protect himself you dont know this. theres not even reason to assume this.
we are going purely off the clip.
Of course we dont know anything, she may have been abusing his little brother, would it have been OK to hit her then?
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What if, you caught your girlfriend cheating on you with some blacky, and you confront her about it, and she is like "so what," and starts punching you, tell me you wouldn't knock her out right then and there
how about suggesting a threesome?
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You overlooked my post "ratherbebig." This is why he hit her:
The guy's a little runt. Everyone picks on him, even women. He won't get charged because he's a manlet, as anyone who attacks him, male or female, is a threat to his life. It's not like he was standing there kicking her when she was down. He hit her, and got out of harms way, as he saw it. Sure it would have been better if he manned up, and bitch slapped her once, grabbed her pussy, and told her let's go settle this in private, not here. Could have been a happy ending.
Plus, she was drunk/stoned, and out of control, when she hit him. Do stupid shit, and get stupid shit happen to you. Karma's a bitch.
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we are going purely off the clip.
Of course we dont know anything, she may have been abusing his little brother, would it have been OK to hit her then?
i think its more reasonable to assume that someone get hit they just hit back in anger for being hit, not because theres a real need for defense.
most people in this thread seems to support this 'she deserves to get punched' not 'he had no choice, he had to protect himself'.
so the question then becomes - if a girl hits you, should you hit her back just because you didnt like the feeling of being hit in the face?
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You overlooked my post "ratherbebig." This is why he hit her:
shouldnt he had stuck around afterwards making sure she was ok?
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i think its more reasonable to assume that someone get hit they just hit back in anger for being hit, not because theres a real need for defense.
most people in this thread seems to support this 'she deserves to get punched' not 'he had no choice, he had to protect himself'.
so the question then becomes - if a girl hits you, should you hit her back just because you didnt like the feeling of being hit in the face?
Its the same thing, you defend yourself from harm, someone harms you you try and stop them.
Its human nature, its fight or flight, sure, he could have run away, but why should he?
Homeowners could run out the back door if an intruder comes in the front, is that a reasonable idea we should pursue?
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Hi Ho ...The Sound of The White Knights on There way. 😃
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shouldnt he had stuck around afterwards making sure she was ok?
Why would anyone care if a person who attacked them is OK?
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Hi Ho ...The Sound of The White Knights on There way. 😃
if your sister or girlfriend gets punched in the face im sure you would like a white knight to help her out.
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Why would anyone care if a person who attacked you is OK?
just because someone attacks you doesnt mean you want that person to be hurt. why would you want that?
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if your sister or girlfriend gets punched in the face im sure you would like a white knight to help her out.
Well, that wouldn't be you, because you didn't even fight back when you got hit in the face.
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Its the same thing, you defend yourself from harm, someone harms you you try and stop them.
Its human nature, its fight or flight, sure, he could have run away, but why should he?
Homeowners could run out the back door if an intruder comes in the front, is that a reasonable idea we should pursue?
hitting someone just to get back at them is not the same as defending yourself.
and its not human nature, there's not two options here. we know there's more.
as for running out the back door, thats not a bad idea.
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just because someone attacks you doesnt mean you want that person to be hurt. why would you want that?
If someone attacks me, then I want them dead.
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Well, that wouldn't be you, because you didn't even fight back when you got hit in the face.
but there you go again think there's just one alternative and that is punching someone in the face. what made you believe this? have you ever seen someone handling a situation differently? door men and police do it all the time.
you need to stop watching kung fu revenge movies.
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If someone attacks me, then I want them dead.
why? what makes you think its even personal?
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but there you go again think there's just one alternative and that is punching someone in the face. what made you believe this? have you ever seen someone handling a situation differently? door men and police do it all the time.
you need to stop watching kung fu revenge movies.
maybe he shouldn't have hit her, just grabbed her and took her to the ground.
Would that have been an option for him?
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why? what makes you think its even personal?
When is getting hit by some asshole not personal?
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maybe he shouldn't have hit her, just grabbed her and took her to the ground.
Would that have been an option for him?
that would have been prefered, if that was an option.
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When is get hit by some asshole not personal?
maybe he mentally ill. surely someone mentally ill hitting someone at random isnt personal and surely we dont want to see that person dead because of it.
we need to take the high road here and not resort to violence ourselves and try to handle the situation differently.
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that would have been prefered, if that was an option.
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maybe he mentally ill. surely someone mentally ill hitting someone at random isnt personal and surely we dont want to see that person dead because of it.
we need to take the high road here and not resort to violence ourselves and try to handle the situation differently.
I want to see anyone who attacks me get dead, especially some worthless POS nut job, who is completely disposable.
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he shouldnt have slammed here like that, that was uncalled for
she basically 'attacks' him like a little kid
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I want to see anyone who attacks me get dead, especially some worthless POS nut job, who is completely disposable.
what if it was your brother? its not uncommon that brothers fight eachother.
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what if it was your brother? its not uncommon that brothers fight eachother.
My brother knows better.
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My brother knows better. PIP
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btw that hip throw was pretty sweet, i assume he's a wrestler or something
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btw that hip throw was pretty sweet, i assume he's a wrestler or something
but..but..that was excessive force, he should have walked away????
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but..but..that was excessive force, he should have walked away????
yeah i think it was excessive.
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yeah i think it was excessive.
trolling twat.... ;D
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Based on her behavior and photos, she is a skanky whore.
She probably would have ended up a single mother with delinquent children dependent on welfare.
Maybe it is a case of Darwinism at work here? She chose to make it physical which altered her life path for the worse. Actions have consequences.
And yes, I have hit a drunk woman who was attacking me (punching me in the head), I slapped her hard once on the cheek which stunned her, which allowed my getaway.
i think the slap is underrated.
bas rutten used to slap people in the ring in japan.
slapping sends the message across that you control the situation without even closing your fist. this signals that, if need be, the violence could be greater.
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Look at all the white knights in the video at the end. BAHAHAHAHAHA
This goes to show that you should never pick a fight with ANYONE. I never, ever pick fights and have diffused countless fights. The only couple of tussles I was involved in, I managed to throw them to the ground and hold them there while convincing onlookers that I am NOT THERE TO DO ANY HARM. I've boxed and wrestled for years, and a kid 3-4 months into boxing could kill someone with a properly landed punch on the street. Not trying to make myself out as anything bigger than what I am. A woman could kill someone if a head connects with concrete.
That said, if I woman kept coming at me I would slap her with all that is holy. They should never be let off the hook because they have a vagina. 90% or greater of all the drunken tussles I've witness was either over a woman, or had a group of women provoking the entire thing. Maybe one day they'll smarten up.
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sorry I cant defend hurting a woman like that regardless how annoying she is
looks like he broke her neck or something judging from the spasms
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sorry I cant defend hurting a woman like that regardless how annoying she is
looks like he broke her neck or something judging from the spasms
was this justified?
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was this justified?
yes that was beautiful!
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yes that was beautiful!
brutal double standards
Big kid uses excessive force to injure much smaller child.
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Probably been mentioned cannot be arsed to read whole thread and I'm not sure if it applies when hit from a woman as I've never been hit hard enough by a woman for it to hurt or feel in danger but normally when you've been punched in the face all rational thought goes out the window and adrenaline takes over, your legs literally shake from it and your first reaction is to stop the attacker by any means possible, last time I had to fight I was attacked with a sucker punch outside my house after trying to find who keyed our lasses car the day before during a time when was at loggerheads with a neighbour,he also tried to bite my ear but missed and his manky treeth scraped my head just above the ear and drew blood, once I had the bloke on the floor I knelt on his chest and smashed his nose five or six times before he manage to curl up into a ball then started trying to choke him before I realised he was done and left him alone, I certainly wasn't thinking of using just enough force to stop him but not hurt him
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normally when you've been punched in the face all rational thought goes out the window and adrenaline takes over, your legs literally shake from it
Or, to quote Mike Tyson, "Everyone goes into the ring with a plan, then you get hit in the face." If it doesn't drop you, then it does stun you, and you go into defense mode, swinging, trying to get away from your attacker. Especially if you are a little runt, as the guy in this story is.
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Or, to quote Mike Tyson, "Everyone goes into the ring with a plan, then you get hit in the face." If it doesn't drop you, then it does stun you, and you go into defense mode, swinging, trying to get away from your attacker. Especially if you are a little runt, as the guy in this story is.
doesnt make much sense considering the people tyson fought
surely they all been hit before and know exactly how to stick to a plan
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Define "little runt"
He is described as being "of shorter build." Doesn't look any taller than her. Think the article says she's 5'3", but I'm not going to read it again.
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He is described as being "of shorter build." Doesn't look any taller than her. Think the article says she's 5'3", but I'm not going to read it again.
I realised what you meant mate after I posted and deleted my post, too late
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doesnt make much sense considering the people tyson fought
surely they all been hit before and know exactly how to stick to a plan
That's why you didn't fight back when you were punched in the face. You got hit with cream puff "punches," that didn't hurt at all.
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Bitch is white trash and probably has an absentee father. The family unit should be glorified, not vilified.
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This is my 19 year old niece Emily. She was involved in an altercation in New Brunswick NJ on October 29, 2016 with an unknown person. She was totally wasted and thought it was a good idea to punch a man in the face.This person hit her hard enough to knock her out, with her head hitting the sidewalk. She was left with brain bleeding, a fractured skull and a concussion. On Thursday November 3rd, the doctors had to remove a piece of her skull, about the size of a dollar bill, to help releive the pressure against her brain. The road to recovery for her will be long. The money raised from this go fund me page will be used to help offset the cost of medical care ahead of her. Thank you!
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I nowt care, I just stated the law..the guy is facing charges etc...
I could care less if you knock women out and justify it, have fun :)
your statement means that you do care. Maybe that's what you meant to say?
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Without being there, this situation boils down to intoxication and self control.
In my opinion, as a man, you should never punch a woman with a closed fist. Most males easily can overpower a woman.
Unless a weapon is involved (knife, gun, blunt object etc....) then a man should simply diffuse the situation by grabbing the woman forcefully (bear hug) or simply leaving the situation all together. Some people's natural reaction to being scared or hit unexpectedly, is to respond with violence.
A man gains nothing by hitting a women under almost all circumstances.
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People shouldn't hit people and not expect to get hit back. Bitch brought this upon herself. I think the guy was reasonably justified but if it were me I would have retreated in that situation. I will do everything in my power to avoid physical conflict including retreat or even apologize (even if I'm the right), especially if I'm carrying a gun. I've been punched before by a guy so I doubt that dumb kunt could do much damage to me. Best to just get out of there.
Overall I don't feel bad for her, she started the conflict and is taking the consequences of her actions. Plus she was giving sex to offensive brutes rather than a perfect gentleman like me, so fuck her!
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I was told by a friend that there was a scuffle that broke out. The guys were calling her and her friends names like ‘whore’ and ‘slut.’ She took offense to it and yes she went around and slapped a couple of the guys. They held back. I don’t know if she even hit this guy and he just whaled off and punched her,” O’Connor said
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I estimate he is around 6 feet tall and 160 pounds, so he has around 8" to 10" and 50 lbs on her.
He was that terrified and physically hurt from her so-called "punches" ::)
As I originally said he will be charged and found guilty as he used more than reasonable force.
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I estimate he is around 6 feet tall and 160 pounds, so he has around 8" to 10" and 50 lbs on her.
He was that terrified and physically hurt from her so-called "punches" ::)
As I originally said he will be charged and found guilty as he used more than reasonable force.
That's not the same people as in the story. FREAKgeek posted the real video just above your post. She's 5'3", and looks bigger than the guy she attacked, and no doubt that's why she thought she could take him on. He's short. No charges have been filed at all.
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That's not the same people as in the story. FREAKgeek posted the real video just above your post. She's 5'3", and looks bigger than the guy she attacked, and no doubt that's why she thought she could take him on. He's short. No charges have been filed at all.
yeah I know, I am commenting on the other thread where "Be There" stated he would knock out small children if they bumped into him
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i think hugging is the best tactic
sometimes you need to squeeze a little more, but it's a hug nonetheless
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Let's say this is what happened - A bunch of drunk guys calling her a whore instigating it. She loses it and goes to hit one of them. The guy knocks her out. I can't side with the guy, it wasn't handled right. He knows it too that's why he's hiding from the cops.
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Let's say this is what happened - A bunch of drunk guys calling her a whore instigating it. She loses it and goes to hit one of them. The guy knocks her out. I can't side with the guy, it wasn't handled right. He knows it too that's why he's hiding from the cops.
She did hit him, not just tried, and if he hadn't defended himself, she sure looked like she was going to hit him again.
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Let's say this is what happened - A bunch of drunk guys calling her a whore instigating it. She loses it and goes to hit one of them. The guy knocks her out. I can't side with the guy, it wasn't handled right. He knows it too that's why he's hiding from the cops.
How was he supposed to know it was going to knock her out ??
He was clearly defending himself. Its not even open for discussion.. end of story.
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How was he supposed to know it was going to knock her out ??
He was clearly defending himself. Its not even open for discussion.. end of story.
He didn't know he was going to knock her out, but that really doesn't matter. The fact that he punched her in the face with full force will be enough for a conviction. The jury will most likely rule that he used excessive force, which was the direct cause of getting her knocked out.
You people have to be stupid if you think he is getting off 100% scott-free, especially if she dies.
One look at her hospital pictures, and its case closed. Why do you think he is in hiding? Because he knows he is utterly screwed.
Now if she would have brandished a knife, gun, bat, etc, whole different story.
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You people have to be stupid if you think he is getting off 100% scott-free, especially if she dies.
He will get off, 100% scott free if I'm on the jury.
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He didn't know he was going to knock her out, but that really doesn't matter. The fact that he punched her in the face with full force will be enough for a conviction. The jury will most likely rule that he used excessive force, which was the direct cause of getting her knocked out.
You people have to be stupid if you think he is getting off 100% scott-free, especially if she dies.
One look at her hospital pictures, and its case closed. Why do you think he is in hiding? Because he knows he is utterly screwed.
Now if she would have brandished a knife, gun, bat, etc, whole different story.
I don't think he sees more than 2 years in prison, probably suspended sentence or less.She attacked him, he used equal force in defence, walked straight away once threat was over.Finding this man guilty seems like lunacy in my eyes.This idea that we are all chuck Norris's and Bruce Lees where we can all control our punches, where we hit, how much power etc is nonsense.She went all out, could have killed him, he stopped the threat before she could do more damage.Case closed.
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Remember this guy?2 black women jumped the counter to attack him, he beat the shit out of them with some kind of iron bar, broken arm and fractured skull from memory.He got off.
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Oh lawd
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Oh lawd
https://www.facebook.com/debbie.oconnor.169/posts/10207646974759468
;D @ James Wood comment.
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I don't think he sees more than 2 years in prison, probably suspended sentence or less.She attacked him, he used equal force in defence, walked straight away once threat was over.Finding this man guilty seems like lunacy in my eyes.This idea that we are all chuck Norris's and Bruce Lees where we can all control our punches, where we hit, how much power etc is nonsense.She went all out, could have killed him, he stopped the threat before she could do more damage.Case closed.
It's case closed in your mind, but that is not how the jury will see it. Answer me this: If it is that cut and dry, then why did a man receive a manslaughter charge when he killed a MAN ENTERING his home (happened last year). Yes, a man entered a guys home, the guy shot the intruder, and guy was charged with manslaughter. And this guy was protecting himself and family. And you think this kid is going to get a slap on the wrist because she hit him in the face first? haha lol. Heck, as I stated before, in NYC youre charged with murder when you kill an intruder, until proven it was 100% self-defense. Again, you think hes only going to get 2 years because she hit him in the face? ??? ??? ???
Either way, the jury will not see how you're seeing it. Again, this happened in the NorthEast, not in the South. It's way different in the South than in the Northeast. You europeans do not get how much different this stuff is between states.
Edit: 1-2 years ago, some old dude shot and killed two teenagers who entered his home. He got LIFE in prison and these 2 kids were going to rob his home. And you think that hes going to get 2 years if he killed her because she hit him in the face? ahaha lol. The logic on getbig is astounding. Again, its not so cut and dry with your "case closed."
LITTLE FALLS, Minn. — A Minnesota homeowner who killed two teens during a break-in was convicted Tuesday of premeditated murder and will spend his life in prison without parole.
Bryon Smith, 65, had claimed he was defending himself during the break-in at his home in this city of about 8,000 on Thanksgiving Day 2012.
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It's case closed in your mind, but that is not how the jury will see it. Answer me this: If it is that cut and dry, then why did a man receive a manslaughter charge when he killed a MAN ENTERING his home (happened last year). Yes, a man entered a guys home, the guy shot the intruder, and guy was charged with manslaughter. And this guy was protecting himself and family. And you think this kid is going to get a slap on the wrist because she hit him in the face first? haha lol. Heck, as I stated before, in NYC youre charged with murder when you kill an intruder, until proven it was 100% self-defense. Again, you think hes only going to get 2 years because she hit him in the face? ??? ??? ???
Either way, the jury will not see how you're seeing it. Again, this happened in the NorthEast, not in the South. It's way different in the South than in the Northeast. You europeans do not get how much different this stuff is between states.
Edit: 1-2 years ago, some old dude shot and killed two teenagers who entered his home. He got LIFE in prison and these 2 kids were going to rob his home. And you think that hes going to get 2 years if he killed her because she hit him in the face? ahaha lol. The logic on getbig is astounding. Again, its not so cut and dry with your "case closed."
LITTLE FALLS, Minn. — A Minnesota homeowner who killed two teens during a break-in was convicted Tuesday of premeditated murder and will spend his life in prison without parole.
Bryon Smith, 65, had claimed he was defending himself during the break-in at his home in this city of about 8,000 on Thanksgiving Day 2012.
Like you said, it really depends on the state.
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Like you said, it really depends on the state.
Um, yes, and as you know, the NorthEast is WAY less tolerant when it comes to standing your ground. As I stated, in NYC, if you kill a home intruder, your charged with murder until proven it was 100% self defense. Jersey is a neighboring state. There is NO way this guy is getting 2 years if this girl dies.
The story I posted above was a guy from the south who killed two teenagers who were invading his home and he received life.
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LITTLE FALLS, Minn. — A Minnesota homeowner who killed two teens during a break-in was convicted Tuesday of premeditated murder and will spend his life in prison without parole.
Bryon Smith, 65, had claimed he was defending himself during the break-in at his home in this city of about 8,000 on Thanksgiving Day 2012.
This one in Minnesota is different. That guy staged some of the crime scene, administered coup-de-grace type shots after they were no threat, etc....
This fellow in Jersey is getting yelled at, and perhaps a slap on the wrist for leaving the scene. If they offer up anything harder, they'll drop it soon afterward.
She hit him first, he hit her back. It falls within NJ's guidelines for self defense. The duty of retreat thing doesn't come in to play here, as that is only a really big factor in deadly force scenarios. I'm sure he'll argue that he didn't consider the punch to be "deadly force", only what was reasonable to repel the attack, done without malice, and her hitting her head was an unforeseeable accident stemming from her attack.
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Um, yes, and as you know, the NorthEast is WAY less tolerant when it comes to standing your ground. As I stated, in NYC, if you kill a home intruder, your charged with murder until proven it was 100% self defense. Jersey is a neighboring state. There is NO way this guy is getting 2 years if this girl dies.
The story I posted above was a guy from the south who killed two teenagers who were invading his home and he received life.
The McDonald's worker above used way more excessive force, he got off.And in NY too.
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The McDonald's worker above used way more excessive force, he got off.And in NY too.
Did the McDonald's worker kill someone?
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This one in Minnesota is different. That guy staged some of the crime scene, administered coup-de-grace type shots after they were no threat, etc....
This fellow in Jersey is getting yelled at, and perhaps a slap on the wrist for leaving the scene. If they offer up anything harder, they'll drop it soon afterward.
She hit him first, he hit her back. It falls within NJ's guidelines for self defense. The duty of retreat thing doesn't come in to play here, as that is only a really big factor in deadly force scenarios. I'm sure he'll argue that he didn't consider the punch to be "deadly force", only what was reasonable to repel the attack, done without malice, and her hitting her head was an unforeseeable accident stemming from her attack.
It just won't be 2 years. His lawyer may make him make a plea deal, but if it goes to court and hes found guilty, he will probably do more than 2 years. I am not saying he will do 50 years, but he will do more than 2. Mark my words. If I am wrong, I will admit it! :) :)
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It just won't be 2 years. His lawyer may make him make a plea deal, but if it goes to court and hes found guilty, he will probably do more than 2 years. I am not saying he will do 50 years, but he will do more than 2. Mark my words. If I am wrong, I will admit it! :) :)
Guy on that Facebook post seems to know his nj law.
Justi Carr Chuck Lerant I can see that someone here took the 50 cent law classes instead of the full priced ones. The man did attempt to retreat, as clearly showed in the video; the female continued towards him while he was backing away and hit him in the face. His response to was to hit her exactly once.
The duty to retreat deals with use of deadly force (it's even put in its very own subsection of the statute, subsection 'b', which reads "Limitations on justifying necessity for use of force".
Reading down the statute, one finds subsection (2), which deals with use of deadly force. The duty to retreat is in (2)(b) and reads, "The actor knows that he can avoid the necessity of using such force with complete safety by retreating or by surrendering possession of a thing to a person asserting a claim of right thereto or by complying with a demand that he abstain from any action which he has no duty to take..."
Here "such force" refers to the type of force that is being discussed in that section, which is deadly force. And in any event, the obligation does not lie unless the person knows he can withdraw in complete safety. He attempted to withdraw and female pursued him and hit him while he was making such attempt. So, even if the duty to retreat were to lie outside of deadly force situations, being attacked while attempting to withdraw is a sufficient ground upon which to use force in response because one then knows he cannot withdraw "in complete safety".
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Well, it also depends on the outcome. If she dies, trust me, he will be found guilty (or will plead out or something). Furthermore, I do not know how a jury will 100% perceive it. However, we knows how society views such situations. Do you really think if she dies, he is not going to either plead out or be convicted? lol haha. Oh boy. This happened in NEW JERSEY, NOT Texas or Arkansas. You obviously do not know the distinct local cultures by state.
Hell, in NYC, a robber tried to enter a MANS HOME and he shoots intruder and is charged with manslaughter (story can be found on google). And you actually think a women hitting a man in the face, and him laying her out, and if she dies, he won't be convicted? ::) ::)
Now this is New Jersey, which states: the amount of force which the defendant uses must be necessary – this defense is unavailable if the actor is unreasonable in his belief about the amount of force necessary and if acting on this unreasonable belief the actor uses an excessive amount of force.
I can guarantee you a Jersey Jury will not believe the force was necessary, especially after viewing her hospital and funeral pictures.
If she got up and walked away after being knocked out, there would be no charges and it would be seen as self defense. If it was a guy who hit first and the girl knocked the guy out, 99% of the people including judges would say "you got what you deserved". Her being a girl doesn't change anything in the eyes of the court. Her being on life support does. It's only because she got hurt why he's in deep shit. If a guy pushed him and he knocked the guy out and the guy was on life support, he'd be in deep shit. Even if didn't plea and the jury found him not guilty, he'd be sued in a civil case and lose big...It's her getting hurt that changes it all. Hell even if he pushed her and didn't hit her and she fell back and hit her head he'd be fucked in a civil case.
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If she got up and walked away after being knocked out, there would be no charges and it would be seen as self defense. If it was a guy who hit first and the girl knocked the guy out, 99% of the people including judges would say "you got what you deserved". Her being a girl doesn't change anything in the eyes of the court. Her being on life support does. It's only because she got hurt why he's in deep shit. If a guy pushed him and he knocked the guy out and the guy was on life support, he'd be in deep shit. Even if didn't plea and the jury found him not guilty, he'd be sued in a civil case and lose big...It's her getting hurt that changes it all. Hell even if he pushed her and didn't hit her and she fell back and hit her head he'd be fucked in a civil case.
So basically you can only defend yourself if you know your not going to cause any damage. Regardless of the fact someone is standing in front of you threatening your life...
What if her first punch knocked him to the ground, he hit his head & died ??? That is a real possibility that it could have happened.
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Just had a thought, New Jersey...Harley Braite?
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Let's say this is what happened - A bunch of drunk guys calling her a whore instigating it. She loses it and goes to hit one of them. The guy knocks her out. I can't side with the guy, it wasn't handled right. He knows it too that's why he's hiding from the cops.
So what your saying that Guys are supposed to show restraint, but women don't need to.
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So basically you can only defend yourself if you know your not going to cause any damage. Regardless of the fact someone is standing in front of you threatening your life...
What if her first punch knocked him to the ground, he hit his head & died ??? That is a real possibility that it could have happened.
Ya I agree. There's case after case where two drunk guys fight outside of a bar where one guy ends up all fucked up or even dead from one punch. Even when the guy who fucked up the other wasn't the first guy to throw the punch. The guy who did the damage gets fucked over. A lawyer will use words like "mutual combat" but when someone is messed up, the court almost always makes someone pay for it. It sucks that the court system is like that but it is what it is...When a person fights even protect yourself in some cases, it really is the luck of the draw that the other person doesn't hit their head and die or get really hurt and you end up fucked because of it. If there are guys out there that like to fight, you'd be better off to keep a pocket knife in your sock and slice yourself with it after you knock someone out and tell the cops he pulled it on you and cut you. oh and don't forget to wipe your prints from the knife ;)
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So what your saying that Guys are supposed to show restraint, but women don't need to.
It's a chance a guy takes. If she would have gotten up and walked away and wasn't hurt, There wouldn't be any changes coming his way imop. Regardless of the punch he threw. It would be a self defense type thing. But when she got hurt it changes everything...He'll be fucked in a civil case regardless of any charges he may face...
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That kid who did the throw on a girl.. that was fucking great. Made his point and got away with it. You're asking for trouble hitting a girl in the head. Hit her anywhere else, if you have to.
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That kid who did the throw on a girl.. that was fucking great. Made his point and got away with it. You're asking for trouble hitting a girl in the head. Hit her anywhere else, if you have to.
Hit her anyone where other than the face & it's sexual assault. Hit her in the face & your in jail for life. It's a massive Win win for men.
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was this justified?
Zangief Kid!
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lmao at he facebook comments
lots of Virgins on there trying to get laid by sticking up for women
if he doesnt get off with this the courts are setting a precedent that women can hit men with impunity
that wont happen
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It's case closed in your mind, but that is not how the jury will see it. Answer me this: If it is that cut and dry, then why did a man receive a manslaughter charge when he killed a MAN ENTERING his home (happened last year). Yes, a man entered a guys home, the guy shot the intruder, and guy was charged with manslaughter. And this guy was protecting himself and family. And you think this kid is going to get a slap on the wrist because she hit him in the face first? haha lol. Heck, as I stated before, in NYC youre charged with murder when you kill an intruder, until proven it was 100% self-defense. Again, you think hes only going to get 2 years because she hit him in the face? ??? ??? ???
Either way, the jury will not see how you're seeing it. Again, this happened in the NorthEast, not in the South. It's way different in the South than in the Northeast. You europeans do not get how much different this stuff is between states.
Edit: 1-2 years ago, some old dude shot and killed two teenagers who entered his home. He got LIFE in prison and these 2 kids were going to rob his home. And you think that hes going to get 2 years if he killed her because she hit him in the face? ahaha lol. The logic on getbig is astounding. Again, its not so cut and dry with your "case closed."
LITTLE FALLS, Minn. — A Minnesota homeowner who killed two teens during a break-in was convicted Tuesday of premeditated murder and will spend his life in prison without parole.
Bryon Smith, 65, had claimed he was defending himself during the break-in at his home in this city of about 8,000 on Thanksgiving Day 2012.
you dont have any idea how the legal system works...
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Guy on that Facebook post seems to know his nj law.
Justi Carr Chuck Lerant I can see that someone here took the 50 cent law classes instead of the full priced ones. The man did attempt to retreat, as clearly showed in the video; the female continued towards him while he was backing away and hit him in the face. His response to was to hit her exactly once.
The duty to retreat deals with use of deadly force (it's even put in its very own subsection of the statute, subsection 'b', which reads "Limitations on justifying necessity for use of force".
Reading down the statute, one finds subsection (2), which deals with use of deadly force. The duty to retreat is in (2)(b) and reads, "The actor knows that he can avoid the necessity of using such force with complete safety by retreating or by surrendering possession of a thing to a person asserting a claim of right thereto or by complying with a demand that he abstain from any action which he has no duty to take..."
Here "such force" refers to the type of force that is being discussed in that section, which is deadly force. And in any event, the obligation does not lie unless the person knows he can withdraw in complete safety. He attempted to withdraw and female pursued him and hit him while he was making such attempt. So, even if the duty to retreat were to lie outside of deadly force situations, being attacked while attempting to withdraw is a sufficient ground upon which to use force in response because one then knows he cannot withdraw "in complete safety".
I have already explained the retreat law to him, he just ignores facts and keeps spouting opinions.
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I saw an episode of Judge Judy the other week where a woman claimed a man hit after she hit him
She said "so what, dont put your hands on anyone and you wont get hit, what did you expect?"
We need more judges like that
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So what your saying that Guys are supposed to show restraint, but women don't need to.
Wrong kind of restraint. This girl isn't intimidating. Plus if you are instigating it you should expect something. And why is he hiding from the cops.
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Wrong kind of restraint. This girl isn't intimidating. Plus if you are instigating it you should expect something. And why is he hiding from the cops.
He has read Board Sheriffs posts
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Yeah she's definitely hittable.....as the video shows.
^^^^^^^^^ hahaha well done
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^^^^^^^^^ hahaha well done
She's a knockout.
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If you hit someone, you should expect to get hit back.
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this is why so many "ladies" don't act like a lady
it's "never" their fault, the law protects them along with countless white knights
if you are prepared to throw a punch you should be prepared to take a punch
the only time a violent scumbag isn't prepared to take a punch is when they believe the other person won't hit back
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Wrong kind of restraint. This girl isn't intimidating. Plus if you are instigating it you should expect something. And why is he hiding from the cops.
Who knows why he was hiding from the cops. Could be that the girl has a cousin, a brother or a father that was a cop. Probably why the girl felt she could go around and put her hands on people. There's always more to these kinds of stories. After watching the video again it said "the uncle has guardianship over the teen girl". That right there tells you she's probably a bad apple. Family doesn't even want her. Also even though the guy hit her with a right hand that was fully extended, it doesn't look like he put everything into it. Kind of a lazy right cross. A punch that looks worse than it actually was because she has a glass jaw and fell like a stone.
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Who knows why he was hiding from the cops. Could be that the girl has a cousin, a brother or a father that was a cop. Probably why the girl felt she could go around and put her hands on people. There's always more to these kinds of stories. After watching the video again it said "the uncle has guardianship over the teen girl". That right there tells you she's probably a bad apple. Family doesn't even want her. Also even though the guy hit her with a right hand that was fully extended, it doesn't look like he put everything into it. Kind of a lazy right cross. A punch that looks worse than it actually was because she has a glass jaw and fell like a stone.
It's an interesting case, we'll see what happens
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Ya I agree. There's case after case where two drunk guys fight outside of a bar where one guy ends up all fucked up or even dead from one punch. Even when the guy who fucked up the other wasn't the first guy to throw the punch. The guy who did the damage gets fucked over. A lawyer will use words like "mutual combat" but when someone is messed up, the court almost always makes someone pay for it. It sucks that the court system is like that but it is what it is...When a person fights even protect yourself in some cases, it really is the luck of the draw that the other person doesn't hit their head and die or get really hurt and you end up fucked because of it. If there are guys out there that like to fight, you'd be better off to keep a pocket knife in your sock and slice yourself with it after you knock someone out and tell the cops he pulled it on you and cut you. oh and don't forget to wipe your prints from the knife ;)
Happened to a guy who works for mes brother. He threw a dude down in a fight and gave him a basal skull fracture and died. He's in jail now and will be for a long time.
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ONE POINT. SHE attacked him first. That''s assault and hence a crime. Both are guilty in one way or another.
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She may not deserve to be fighting for her life, but that's what happens when you act that way. If you get violent then there's a good possibility of something like this happening. I'm willing to bet alcohol was involved as well. The best policy is to try and avoid hitting anyone, regardless of gender. You can get into a lot of legal trouble these days if you cross that line and throw a punch.
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Disgraceful journalism.
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First off, where are her fucking pants? She shouldn't have attacked that guy. He took off running and will probably never be found. The quality of the video sucked and he should just move. I've been in the situation where a crazy female tried to attack and the only real option is to turn and get the fuck out of there. You can't win a fight with a female (maybe you could pepper spray them).
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Moral of the story: don't get violent or threatening with other people in the street if you can just walk away.
It could ruin your life.
Better to just be the better man and ignore them.
It's sometimes hard to apply in Western society where people are quite confrontational, aggressive, loud and arrogant as part of daily life.
But better to act like an aristocrat and ignore the peasants.
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Moral of the story: don't get violent or threatening with other people in the street if you can just walk away.
It could ruin your life.
Better to just be the better man and ignore them.
It's sometimes hard to apply in Western society where people are quite confrontational, aggressive, loud and arrogant as part of daily life.
But better to act like an aristocrat and ignore the peasants.
When a society is such that letting yourself get beat up is deemed being 'the better man', that society is doomed.
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First of all, feminism is what's causing this.
Women needs to learn not to get uppity for no reason.
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When a society is such that letting yourself get beat up is deemed being 'the better man', that society is doomed.
I know what you're saying, it's the law that's messed up.
What I'm saying is that if there is an option to evade and escape instead of fight, that's probably better as even if you're innocent, the law might still screw you over and ruin your life.
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I know what you're saying, it's the law that's messed up.
What I'm saying is that if there is an option to evade and escape instead of fight, that's probably better as even if you're innocent, the law might still screw you over and ruin your life.
It's unfortunately more practical in the current environment, you are right.
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only in America
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Did she died?