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Title: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on April 27, 2017, 01:52:45 PM
I've always considered myself a faithful, monogamous guy and have preferred relationships to playing the field since I was in my mid20s, but it has been harder and harder to convince myself not to stray lately.  :-\  I've never cheated in the past. Before I got married, I would just break it off with whatever girl I was seeing. Even if I had something lined up, I would wait til I was out of one relationship.  

I don't love my wife less than I did a few years ago and I love my little family unit, but just slipping in a one night stand here and there is becoming an all consuming thought. I just keep cycling through the same arguments: every relationship comes to this point, she'll either have to forgive me or we'll both just have to move on with our lives, etc...

I started doing this thing about a year ago- whenever I'm near an attractive woman in a place where it's reasonable to start a conversation (like in line at a store or on an elevator), I give her a compliment on her outfit. Nothing lewd and no expectations beyond that. Almost all of them choose to continue having a conversation. And within 5-10 minutes, at least half of them offer their phone numbers or a way to get in touch with them on social media. They always see my wedding ring. Occasionally, I'll accept, but I've never contacted any of them. I guess I told myself it was innocent when I first started, but I never would have done it at the beginning of my marriage and it's sort of like an addiction now.


How you doing, getbig? You managing to stay faithful without a struggle? Is it hard, but you manage? Feel free to share some words of wisdom.



(OP Note: No offense, Howard, but if you were considering posting in this thread, please don't.)

Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: nasht5 on April 27, 2017, 02:45:38 PM
On #3
Known her for 10yrs, married for 7. I look at other women like fine art at a museum. I can appreciate their beauty but have no desire to take them anywhere.
You're a man, you're going to look and imagine other women. The fact is if you even attempt to pursue another woman you obviously don't love the one you're with.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 27, 2017, 02:49:42 PM
I've NEVER cheated on any woman I was with. It's a line I wouldn't cross. You've made it this far , don't become something you're not. You want to fuck other chicks call it quits with the wife and have at it.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: cephissus on April 27, 2017, 02:57:37 PM
Go ahead, fuck away.  With this decision, you'll have solidarity with a random (set of) getbigger(s).

You're welcome.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Zillotch on April 27, 2017, 03:23:42 PM
OP is a scumbag.


I don't love my wife less than I did a few years ago and I love my little family unit, but

lol
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: illuminati on April 27, 2017, 03:25:06 PM
It's tough one.

You only live once.

Is it wrong - I don't know - that only you can decide.

Some thing to ponder.
If your caught / found out - will she divorce you ?
Can you deal with the likely little to no contact with your kids ?
Another Man being Daddy to them ?
Wife taking everything & you with nowt living in a bed sit eating cold beans ?

Has any of that ever stopped many many men from chasing / straying - Nope.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: loco on April 27, 2017, 03:27:52 PM
#1 Rule of personal finance: "Marry well, and stay married."

Cheat on her, and learn to live on only half or less of your stuff.

It's not worth it.  Seek marital counseling.  And no, not all relationships come to this point.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Slapper on April 27, 2017, 03:35:25 PM
What you want to do has a name: adultery.

Beyond the libido-induced (and superficial) extra horniness... Why did you get married?

Don't come here bitching when you get caught and she gets to keep it all.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 27, 2017, 03:39:30 PM
Pussy is pussy , after you bang the new chick and the rush of it wears off what are you left with? Something you can never get back
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: tres_taco_combo on April 27, 2017, 03:39:35 PM
not a cheater here either. not married and never engaged, but not gonna behind my girls back
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: local hero on April 27, 2017, 03:47:40 PM
Pussy is pussy , after you bang the new chick and the rush of it wears off what are you left with? Something you can never get back


Yeh this is the age old counter balance that keeps men on the right side of the line when pondering the 'only live once" thoughts

Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 27, 2017, 03:55:26 PM
It's a line once crossed that you can't come back from.  Can you go and cheat on her and then look her in the eye the next day like nothing happened?  Will the thought of what you did consume you?  Unless you're a sociopath like I am and lack a conscience it is hard to live with.  I've seen the guilt break many strong men.  Honestly you'll have a few minutes of fun, feel rejuvenated and then you'll feel like a shit fuck the next day and it'll get worse from there.  How would you feel if you found out your wife had cock on the side?  Can you still be the same husband and same father?  Do you want some random pussy to be the end of your family as you know it?  The biggest thing you'll lose is the loss of respect from your kids that you can never get back.  The look of pure love and innocence they give you will change when they understand what you did to break the family apart and break their mom's heart.  Not many men can do it and act normal the next day.  Women can sense when you're off and something is not right with you.

Tread lightly man.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: el numero uno on April 27, 2017, 03:58:44 PM
Pussy is pussy , after you bang the new chick and the rush of it wears off what are you left with? Something you can never get back

I agree with this and I think it's weird as hell. I've been lucky at few times, I've had sex with a few very attractive girls. But as ND suggested, it feels the same as any other girl.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: wes on April 27, 2017, 03:59:57 PM
I thought this would be about cheat curls and cheat lifts.............just get laid bro.  ;)
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: wes on April 27, 2017, 04:00:54 PM
Never mow another mans lawn.

If I caught my wife cheating,I`d be in prison.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: local hero on April 27, 2017, 04:01:58 PM
It's a line once crossed that you can't come back from.  Can you go and cheat on her and then look her in the eye the next day like nothing happened?  Will the thought of what you did consume you?  Unless you're a sociopath like I am and lack a conscience it is hard to live with.  I've seen the guilt break many strong men.  Honestly you'll have a few minutes of fun, feel rejuvenated and then you'll feel like a shit fuck the next day and it'll get worse from there.  How would you feel if you found out your wife had cock on the side?  Can you still be the same husband and same father?  Do you want some random pussy to be the end of your family as you know it?  The biggest thing you'll lose is the loss of respect from your kids that you can never get back.  The look of pure love and innocence they give you will change when they understand what you did to break the family apart and break their mom's heart.  Not many men can do it and act normal the next day.  Women can sense when you're off and something is not right with you.


Tread lightly man.


This is where kids actualy do keep marriages together, I think most men could live with an ex hating them without even giving it a second thought, your kids on the other hand... Totally different matter, they keep me on the straight and narrow


I can feel howie straining at the bit to jump in on this..
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Zillotch on April 27, 2017, 04:04:17 PM
If I caught my wife cheating,I`d be in prison.

good thing she's a crafty bitch, eh?
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 27, 2017, 04:09:26 PM
good thing she's a crafty bitch, eh?

Wes is clueless what goes on during happy hour from 1-3 at the old age home.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Tapeworm on April 27, 2017, 04:23:01 PM
"Could you live with yourself?"  ::)  It's not like he's proposing to murder someone and bury them in a shallow grave next to the railroad tracks.  It's just sex.  

I don't believe in lasting monogamy.  I get it.  The 7 year itch is no joke.  If you've been fucking the same woman for years then you've had it and had it.  Even uglier women are more attractive at that point.  

Although it's possible that the urge to fuck around is a symptom rather than a disease.  Maybe the relationship is already sick.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Mr Anabolic on April 27, 2017, 04:42:27 PM
Cheating?... a woman invented that notion.

By staying with one woman a man is cheating his biological directive of spreading his seed to as many attractive woman as he can.

From a biological standpoint I think Ronnie Coleman has the right idea.  From a financial standpoint however, you are fucked if you try to emulate Ronnie.  

The laws have fucked it up for men everywhere.  The laws and courts are all in favor of the woman.  Not worth getting married, having kids and/or living with a woman in today's society... waaaaay too many financial ramifications.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: 10pints on April 27, 2017, 04:52:31 PM
Just fuck other bitches when you're out partying, miles away from your home town. Tell them you are passing through and not looking for anything serious. Never give them your number, give them a false name, use a rubber. No dramas.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on April 27, 2017, 04:56:23 PM
"Could you live with yourself?"  ::)  


LOL Yeah. I appreciate and respect the fact that so many guys take the idea of monogamy seriously (or at least say they do), but I don't get the pretending that cheating is this rare thing that only the sickest of monsters  have ever thought about.  It's the most common reason marriages fall apart by a longshot.  I didn't post this thread to justify cheating- if I wanted to do that, I'd find a way to do it on my own. This was more of an attempt to deal with temptation and have an honest discussion about how others deal with it. I don't agree that thinking about cheating- even having a very strong desire to cheat- means you don't love the one you're with. Sexual desire is extremely powerful. I am 36 and I am still a very sexually driven person.  For those that don't have a desire to cheat, that's great. I have experienced that and I can understand it.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: 10pints on April 27, 2017, 05:00:54 PM
Plenty of time to be faithful when your are old and can't get it up.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 27, 2017, 05:02:48 PM

LOL Yeah. I appreciate and respect the fact that so many guys take the idea of monogamy seriously (or at least say they do), but I don't get the pretending that cheating is this rare thing that only the sickest of monsters  have ever thought about.  It's the most common reason marriages fall apart by a longshot.  I didn't post this thread to justify cheating- if I wanted to do that, I'd find a way to do it on my own. This was more of an attempt to deal with temptation and have an honest discussion about how others deal with it. I don't agree that thinking about cheating- even having a very strong desire to cheat- means you don't love the one you're with. Sexual desire is extremely powerful. I am 36 and I am still a very sexually driven person.  For those that don't have a desire to cheat, that's great. I have experienced that and I can understand it.

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It's the most common reason marriages fall apart by a longshot.

Money is
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Chadwick The Beta on April 27, 2017, 05:03:21 PM
Does your wife consider it "cheating" when Tyrone and Mustafa are tag-teaming her while you're at work?
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Slapper on April 27, 2017, 05:08:03 PM
"Could you live with yourself?"  ::)  It's not like he's proposing to murder someone and bury them in a shallow grave next to the railroad tracks.  It's just sex.

No, it's not "just sex," otherwise he would be seeking the services of the ladies of the night.

Mofo is looking to wine-n-dine the low-lying fruit, self repect-lacking slut types.

Two different things.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on April 27, 2017, 05:15:15 PM
Plenty of time to be faithful when your are old and can't get it up.

Plz don't remind me of this.  :-\  I would say, conservatively, that 60% of the males I associate with who are at least 10 years older than me are on their second families.

Man, seriously, yesterday was a really hard day for me. My wife has been visiting her mother with the baby since Tuesday. I was in Duane Reade on my way home after work and this cute, young Jessica Alba-looking girl is in front of me. She has on this pink sweatshirt and I told her that it was definitely her color. She laughed and just started talking my ear off. I  kept rubbing my goatee with the hand with my wedding finger and she just ignored it. Then she told me to friend her on instagram... or to just dm her if I didn't want everybody in my business. I didn't contact her, but I'm not exaggerating when I say I was in a spiritual crisis this morning.  
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Slapper on April 27, 2017, 05:15:51 PM

LOL Yeah. I appreciate and respect the fact that so many guys take the idea of monogamy seriously (or at least say they do), but I don't get the pretending that cheating is this rare thing that only the sickest of monsters  have ever thought about.  It's the most common reason marriages fall apart by a longshot.  I didn't post this thread to justify cheating- if I wanted to do that, I'd find a way to do it on my own. This was more of an attempt to deal with temptation and have an honest discussion about how others deal with it. I don't agree that thinking about cheating- even having a very strong desire to cheat- means you don't love the one you're with. Sexual desire is extremely powerful. I am 36 and I am still a very sexually driven person.  For those that don't have a desire to cheat, that's great. I have experienced that and I can understand it.

Marriages fall apart for many reasons. Most common reason is people getting married who should not be getting married. I, for one, am a "marriage warrior," and value the institution much more than your cheating ass. Do us all a favor and tell your wife what you intend on doing. THEN come in here and tell us how it went. Should be a lot more fun than your mindless contemplations.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Tapeworm on April 27, 2017, 05:18:28 PM
No, it's not "just sex," otherwise he would be seeking the services of the ladies of the night.

Mofo is looking to wine-n-dine the low-lying fruit, self repect-lacking slut types.

Two different things.

I never wanted to have candlelight dinners with other women.  I just wanted to fuck 'em.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Zillotch on April 27, 2017, 05:19:05 PM
I, for one, am a "marriage warrior," and value the institution much more than your cheating ass.

remember... if this piece of shit will cheat on his wife.... he will have no problem fucking your wife.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on April 27, 2017, 05:24:44 PM
Marriages fall apart for many reasons. Most common reason is people getting married who should not be getting married. I, for one, am a "marriage warrior," and value the institution much more than your cheating ass. Do us all a favor and tell your wife what you intend on doing. THEN come in here and tell us how it went. Should be a lot more fun than your mindless contemplations.

Do you a favor? If you're not having "fun" reading this thread, no one forced you to click on it. The most common reason cited for divorce in divorce proceedings in the US is infidelity.  The stats on "people getting married who should not be getting married" are surprisingly inconclusive. The rest of that post just shows a strong lack of reading comprehension skills, "warrior".
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Wiggs on April 27, 2017, 05:26:35 PM
Once you go down that road, you can never get the purity of your marriage back. The trust is broken, the loyalty is broken and if you have a soul, it will be difficult to forgive yourself. All for nothing really but some strange. Do you really want to risk losing what you have over some random? It's spiritually damaging especially to yourself.  Once you go down that road, it becomes easier to do it each time. It's not as innocent as this scummy society makes it seems. It's adultery. Do you want to face your wife and see the pain in her face and on her soul that you caused?
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on April 27, 2017, 05:26:54 PM
No, it's not "just sex," otherwise he would be seeking the services of the ladies of the night.

Mofo is looking to wine-n-dine the low-lying fruit, self repect-lacking slut types.

Two different things.

Where did I say anything about wine-n dine? I can see that you're really invested in this, but reading comprehension...  :-\
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on April 27, 2017, 05:31:17 PM
Once you go down that road, you can never get the purity of your marriage back. The trust is broken, the loyalty is broken and if you have a soul, it will be difficult to forgive yourself. All for nothing really but some strange. Do you really want to risk losing what you have over some random? It's spiritually damaging especially to yourself.  Once you go down that road, it becomes easier to do it each time. It's not as innocent as this scummy society makes it seems. It's adultery. Do you want to face your wife and see the pain in her face and on her soul that you caused?

Have you cheated on women in the past or have you been habitually faithful?
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Wiggs on April 27, 2017, 05:42:45 PM
Have you cheated on women in the past or have you been habitually faithful?

I have cheated on one woman and the only one that counted meaning my ex-wife. So those things I said was from personal experience. I'd never do again. It eats at you. Even whores. What destroyed me was that I violated trust and loyalty. You cant get that back. She didn't deserve it. I got what I deserved when it happened to me. Not a good feeling to say the least. It's another reason I'd never do it again. It's a different level of emotional pain. I'd only wish it on my enemies.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on April 27, 2017, 05:45:07 PM
Very very good thread. I was an absolute prick to women when younger, I cheated on every girl I was with, sometimes having two or three girlfriends at once. It's not worth the mental torture. Even without guilt you have to remember your lies and constantly dodge getting caught. Not worth it when you're a grown man. When you're younger it's a bit of a laugh and you get that shit out of your system. The grass is not always greener.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Rudee on April 27, 2017, 05:50:30 PM
Half the women you talk to on elevators give you their numbers or social media contacts?   I have my doubts about that.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Slapper on April 27, 2017, 05:50:40 PM
Not worth it when you're a grown man.

Thank you!
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Slapper on April 27, 2017, 05:58:51 PM
Half the women you talk to on elevators give you their numbers or social media contacts? I have my doubts about that.

He does sound like he's seriously trying to refine his flirting protocol. As to whether the women fall for it, or not, that's what is up for discussion.

If cheating were a 10-step culmination process, he'd be up to 8 now. All that needs to happen from there on is the usual "I've had too much to drink" + the sex-deprived whore and this guy will jump on that hump like a crackhead on a bag of crack. To be followed by a "I didn't mean it honey, I was drunk out of my mind!"

To think your wife is gonna get it all!
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: el numero uno on April 27, 2017, 06:02:34 PM
Half the women you talk to on elevators give you their numbers or social media contacts?   I have my doubts about that.

Huh?

The typical getbigger is in his early 30s, movie star good looks, wealthy, educated, 8-9% bf. What kind of women would NOT give us their contact info?
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Wiggs on April 27, 2017, 06:04:04 PM
Marriage is grand! :)
Divorce is 50 grand.  :(
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: OlympiaGym on April 27, 2017, 06:14:02 PM
What a bunch of pussies. Do whatever the fuck you want. You only live once. You think Trump worries about shit like this?
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Irongrip400 on April 27, 2017, 06:26:05 PM
Not going to read through all of the posts to see if this had been said, but it seems like you may be headed for a cheating situation. Don't do it. From what I recall you have two kids or one and one on the way. Don't fuck up your family man. Don't be a dirtbag. Don't let a few dudes tell you it's not "alpha" to stay monogomous. You took an oath to stay with her. A mans word is his bond, and there's nothing more alpha than that. Of course you're going to want other pussy, you're a dude. Just keep it in check. Life is hard enough, don't make it worse on yourself. Grow old with her, take trips with her, and raise your kids with her. Don't be a douche.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: wes on April 27, 2017, 06:30:29 PM
Not going to read through all of the posts to see if this had been said, but it seems like you may be headed for a cheating situation. Don't do it. From what I recall you have two kids or one and one on the way. Don't fuck up your family man. Don't be a dirtbag. Don't let a few dudes tell you it's not "alpha" to stay monogomous. You took an oath to stay with her. A mans word is his bond, and there's nothing more alpha than that. Of course you're going to want other pussy, you're a dude. Just keep it in check. Life is hard enough, don't make it worse on yourself. Grow old with her, take trips with her, and raise your kids with her. Don't be a douche.
Says it all............good post dude!
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on April 27, 2017, 06:31:05 PM
I have cheated on one woman and the only one that counted meaning my ex-wife. So those things I said was from personal experience. I'd never do again. It eats at you. Even whores. What destroyed me was that I violated trust and loyalty. You cant get that back. She didn't deserve it. I got what I deserved when it happened to me. Not a good feeling to say the least. It's another reason I'd never do it again. It's a different level of emotional pain. I'd only wish it on my enemies.

The funny thing is that I tell that to women all the time; if you know a guy is a cheater then he will cheat on you, because once he knows he can deal with the fallout, he has no reason to stay faithful. I was DMing about this with another member here awhile ago.


The thing is, when you cheated, you knew it was going to painful for your wife. You knew it was going to be the biggest strain on your marriage. Her reaction didn't shock you. You didn't have to go through it to know that it was something she wasn't going to take well. My point here is that when you are in it, when you are feeling like you are on that precipice, you come up with all kinds of bullshit to balance the scales. I appreciate the thoughtful answer you gave, but it's all logic. and you understand that when you are on that precipice, logic kinda falls apart. I felt like I put up with so much bullshit for ass when I was in my 20s, and literally seconds after climaxing I would be like "hmm, this is it?" From an objective standpoint, it seems hard to believe pursuit of that feeling can be such a powerful force. But it is. It builds civilizations and empires.

For so long, what you posted was my baseline, but I have been struggling for the last few months. Fortunately, up until now, I have kept coming back to the logical conclusion that I want my life to stay like it is, but you know that's not the issue. The issue in the moment isn't how much pain I could potentially cause my wife, but how easy it would be for her to never know. It's not how big of a deal it would be to the sanctity of marriage, but how it's just this little thing that shouldn't mean anything. I can clearly see how different my view of things would be on different sides.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on April 27, 2017, 06:31:19 PM
Not going to read through all of the posts to see if this had been said, but it seems like you may be headed for a cheating situation. Don't do it. From what I recall you have two kids or one and one on the way. Don't fuck up your family man. Don't be a dirtbag. Don't let a few dudes tell you it's not "alpha" to stay monogomous. You took an oath to stay with her. A mans word is his bond, and there's nothing more alpha than that. Of course you're going to want other pussy, you're a dude. Just keep it in check. Life is hard enough, don't make it worse on yourself. Grow old with her, take trips with her, and raise your kids with her. Don't be a douche.
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A real man is there for his wife and family. Have a wank, go to a strip club, whatever, but if you cheat you'll end up lying in the bed staring up at the ceiling after blowing your load after potentially losing your house, marriage, the respect of your family, your children, at least half your wages every week, your car, etc etc.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: OlympiaGym on April 27, 2017, 06:33:47 PM
If you can't manage a wife and a couple of girlfriends on the side, you're not really trying. This is what successful men do. It's our right. Monogamy is for the simpletons who don't cheat on their taxes.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on April 27, 2017, 06:37:04 PM
Don't let a few dudes tell you it's not "alpha" to stay monogomous.  

Just the opposite in fact. Apparently, struggling not to cheat is the same thing as cheating, I'm the only getbigger whose ever thought about it and I'm a dirtbag.

eta  But great post actually. Appreciate it. You too, Wiggs. It's not that I think you guys are wrong or even that it's not what I want to hear. It's just  that this is half the conversation I've been having over and over in my head for the last few months. The other half is calling bullshit on that stuff.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 27, 2017, 06:47:03 PM
Have sex with a tranny then it won't count as cheating.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Slapper on April 27, 2017, 06:52:06 PM
Break it up and start the new relationship.

That's how grownups do it.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: _aj_ on April 27, 2017, 07:05:54 PM
I thought this would be about cheat curls and cheat lifts.............just get laid bro.  ;)

I'm dieting, I thought it was about pizza
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on April 27, 2017, 07:10:58 PM
I'm dieting, I thought it was about pizza


Would these have been better topics? Everyone used to complain about my junkfood and deadlift threads.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: HockeyFightFan on April 27, 2017, 07:27:08 PM
If you can't manage a wife and a couple of girlfriends on the side, you're not really trying. This is what successful men do. It's our right. Monogamy is for the simpletons who don't cheat on their taxes.

Exactly, I'm a single guy. While these married cucks are tossing and turning at night worried about the guilt of cheating I'm in a hotel somewhere tossing their wife's salad without remorse.

So when you kiss her good morning after her "girls night out" you will know why her lips taste salty.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: el numero uno on April 27, 2017, 08:08:28 PM
For a good, lasting marriage, I suggest everyone to read trough Howard's post history and then go and do the complete opposite.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Slapper on April 28, 2017, 04:08:09 AM
Exactly, I'm a single guy. While these married cucks are tossing and turning at night worried about the guilt of cheating I'm in a hotel somewhere tossing their wife's salad without remorse.

So when you kiss her good morning after her "girls night out" you will know why her lips taste salty.

Fuck yeah! USA! USA! USA!

Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: bigmc on April 28, 2017, 04:48:39 AM
if you have children

then cheating is off the table

put your kids welfare first

its that simple
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Ronnie Rep on April 28, 2017, 04:53:52 AM
if you have children

then cheating is off the table

put your kids welfare first

its that simple
Definitely a powerful factor to keep from straying.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Mr Anabolic on April 28, 2017, 04:55:05 AM
Very very good thread. I was an absolute prick to women when younger, I cheated on every girl I was with, sometimes having two or three girlfriends at once. It's not worth the mental torture. Even without guilt you have to remember your lies and constantly dodge getting caught. Not worth it when you're a grown man. When you're younger it's a bit of a laugh and you get that shit out of your system. The grass is not always greener.

Biologically speaking, this is what you are supposed to do.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Mr Anabolic on April 28, 2017, 04:59:22 AM
Marriage is grand! :)
Divorce is 50 grand.  :(

50 grand?... that's cheap.  My one friend who got divorced recently had to give her half his bank account (100K) and give her his brand new car and sell the house and split the proceeds... she got close to 350K total.  $50 grand is a bargain.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 28, 2017, 05:03:07 AM
50 grand?... that's cheap.  My one friend who got divorced recently had to give her half his bank account (100K) and give her his brand new car and sell the house and split the proceeds... she got close to 350K total.  $50 grand is a bargain.

Friend of mine spent 175k in divorce court. 
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: 10pints on April 28, 2017, 05:07:07 AM
Go fuck a high class whore. See how you feel. No one will ever know except you and her, and she's not gonna be telling. Get it out of your system. The world will not end, your marriage will still be there, no one suffers (except you, if the guilt gets you).
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: bigmc on April 28, 2017, 05:07:31 AM
50 grand?... that's cheap.  My one friend who got divorced recently had to give her half his bank account (100K) and give her his brand new car and sell the house and split the proceeds... she got close to 350K total.  $50 grand is a bargain.

wiggs is on welfare

if he divorced it would be a fight over food coupons
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Tapeworm on April 28, 2017, 05:08:42 AM
People get tired of fucking each other.  Maybe they have other things that count and they don't want to lose that but people get tired of fucking each other.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Mr Anabolic on April 28, 2017, 05:10:22 AM
Friend of mine spent 175k in divorce court.  

The main contributing factor to divorce, is marriage.  

Men (especially young ones) need to think more critically.  They need to stop letting their glands make the plans and being dazzled/controlled by pussy.  It's very costly in the end.  There's always an ending and it's usually a bad one.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Ronnie Rep on April 28, 2017, 05:21:19 AM
Friend of mine spent 175k in divorce court. 
I have been involved in some very big public divorces. Bernie Kosar, Nicky Taylor etc. Messy and expensive.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: NordicNerd on April 28, 2017, 07:05:55 AM
...

How you doing, getbig? You managing to stay faithful without a struggle? Is it hard, but you manage? Feel free to share some words of wisdom



Never felt like cheating on my wife before I decided the marriage was dead after 20 years together. Now I am divorced. Should have divorced before cheating. The cheating caused a shitstorm that treatened the relationship to  my friends, my children. It even threatened my career. Cheating can ruin your life, so think carefully before doing it.

NN
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 28, 2017, 07:14:46 AM
If you're asking if you should do it then mentally you're weak and are not capable of handling the aftermath.  Just cut your losses and be good to your wife and family and just jerk off to porn anytime you're horny.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: residue on April 28, 2017, 07:18:34 AM
I've always considered myself a faithful, monogamous guy and have preferred relationships to playing the field since I was in my mid20s, but it has been harder and harder to convince myself not to stray lately.  :-\  I've never cheated in the past. Before I got married, I would just break it off with whatever girl I was seeing. Even if I had something lined up, I would wait til I was out of one relationship.  

I don't love my wife less than I did a few years ago and I love my little family unit, but just slipping in a one night stand here and there is becoming an all consuming thought. I just keep cycling through the same arguments: every relationship comes to this point, she'll either have to forgive me or we'll both just have to move on with our lives, etc...

I started doing this thing about a year ago- whenever I'm near an attractive woman in a place where it's reasonable to start a conversation (like in line at a store or on an elevator), I give her a compliment on her outfit. Nothing lewd and no expectations beyond that. Almost all of them choose to continue having a conversation. And within 5-10 minutes, at least half of them offer their phone numbers or a way to get in touch with them on social media. They always see my wedding ring. Occasionally, I'll accept, but I've never contacted any of them. I guess I told myself it was innocent when I first started, but I never would have done it at the beginning of my marriage and it's sort of like an addiction now.


How you doing, getbig? You managing to stay faithful without a struggle? Is it hard, but you manage? Feel free to share some words of wisdom.



(OP Note: No offense, Howard, but if you were considering posting in this thread, please don't.)



is your wife boring? if not hop on feeld\tinder and find a bitch for you 2 to tagteam
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Ronnie Rep on April 28, 2017, 07:25:26 AM
Truly believe there is absolutely no reason to get married unless you plan to have children.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Simple Simon on April 28, 2017, 07:40:52 AM
Truly believe there is absolutely no reason to get married unless you plan to have children.
why do you have to get married to have children?
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Dave D on April 28, 2017, 07:48:28 AM
Bro have you considered not talking to these girls? Why are you flirting with the idea? You're actively seeking this out, don't think for a minute that dudes are hitting on your wife and she's shooting them down.

Just because you can pull these chicks doesnt mean you should. It doesn't matter if 60% of the peoe you know are on their second family. Is that what you want? Are you prepared for that headache? 50% of the population gets cancer at one point, it doesn't mean you want to go through chemo.

If you're over your marriage stay true to yourself,  end it but don't cheat.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 28, 2017, 07:49:09 AM
why do you have to get married to have children?

You don't have to - but its better for the kids if you care about how they are going to be raised and brought up. 

   
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: 10pints on April 28, 2017, 07:59:55 AM
Bro have you considered not talking to these girls? Why are you flirting with the idea? You're actively seeking this out, don't think for a minute that dudes are hitting on your wife and she's shooting them down.

Just because you can pull these chicks doesnt mean you should. It doesn't matter if 60% of the peoe you know are on their second family. Is that what you want? Are you prepared for that headache? 50% off the population gets cancer at one point, it doesn't mean you want to go through chemo.

If you're over your marriage stay true to yourself,  end it but don't cheat.

Good luck.

Another reason to get that hot pussy whilst you can!
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Ronnie Rep on April 28, 2017, 08:10:29 AM
You don't have to - but its better for the kids if you care about how they are going to be raised and brought up. 

   
Bingo.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: CalvinH on April 28, 2017, 08:35:40 AM
why do you have to get married to have children?


Easier for insurance bills.


OP should give out wife's digits if he decides to cheat, after all it's only fair!
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Irongrip400 on April 28, 2017, 08:39:16 AM
if you have children

then cheating is off the table

put your kids welfare first

its that simple

This. Not saying having kids is a bad thing and is the end of your life. But, once you have kids, life is not all about you anymore. It's about them.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 28, 2017, 08:43:55 AM
Best advice I can give.

Fuck these whores in remote areas, kill them then dispose of the body.  No witnesses or anything.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Ronnie Rep on April 28, 2017, 09:16:36 AM
This. Not saying having kids is a bad thing and is the end of your life. But, once you have kids, life is not all about you anymore. It's about them.
Absolutely, and if you don't proceed that way you have no business bringing them into the world.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: residue on April 28, 2017, 09:41:03 AM
Best advice I can give.

Fuck these whores in remote areas, kill them then dispose of the body.  No witnesses or anything.
that's stupid, fuck muslims and illegals, neither will report it.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Pray_4_War on April 28, 2017, 10:08:30 AM
if you have children

then cheating is off the table

put your kids welfare first

its that simple

I'm a guy who usually will say, "life is short, what the fuck" but I would tend to agree with bigmc here.  Don't let your desire for new pussy fuck up your kid's lives.

I understand the desire.  Staying faithful can be challenging.  We're human.  Cheating or wanting to cheat doesn't make you a terrible person but it can have terrible consequences for you and the people you love.

Getting some hot new pussy will be great for while but at the end of the day it usually ends up costing you more than it was worth.  I say don't do it.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Grape Ape on April 28, 2017, 10:30:20 AM
Getting some hot new pussy will be great for while but at the end of the day it usually ends up costing you more than it was worth.  I say don't do it.

Once someone matures, it's really easy to put themselves in the mindset of the post-encounter, which makes avoidance super easy.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: residue on April 28, 2017, 10:44:36 AM
I got one don't sign up for monogamy if you know in your marrow that it's not for you, my gf and I practice polyamory, for that very reason.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on April 28, 2017, 10:47:17 AM
Bro have you considered not talking to these girls? Why are you flirting with the idea? You're actively seeking this out, don't think for a minute that dudes are hitting on your wife and she's shooting them down.

Just because you can pull these chicks doesnt mean you should. It doesn't matter if 60% of the peoe you know are on their second family. Is that what you want? Are you prepared for that headache? 50% of the population gets cancer at one point, it doesn't mean you want to go through chemo.

If you're over your marriage stay true to yourself,  end it but don't cheat.

Good luck.


Cancer is a disease that often times results in death.There is a risk/ reward scenario with cheating that isn't there with cancer.  The point of the 60% thing was not to say that everyone is doing it so it must be okay, it was an attempt to guide things on to a more realistic, less melodramatic track. The simple fact of the matter is that cheating isn't a death sentence. In some situations, being exposed as a cheater can fuck up your life, but even that isn't 100% guaranteed. People cheat and are cheated on all the time and they move on with their lives.

That being said, the point of me starting this thread wasn't really to justify cheating, explain it away or get permission other getbiggers. The point of this thread was to have an honest discussion about trying to faithful.  Based on my posts in this thread, it's pretty clear that if I ever move into that direction of cheating, it will be something I arrive at with a lot of internal conflict. But the reality is the aftermath of having an affair exposed either changes your life or it doesn't and all parties have to move on with their life.

I'm not necessarily disappointed that so many of you are monogamy proponents, but I am surprised that so few of you have been tempted to stray.

But thanks for the response.  8)
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on April 28, 2017, 10:49:45 AM
I got one don't sign up for monogamy if you know in your marrow that it's not for you, my gf and I practice polyamory, for that very reason.


Check the very first line, of the very first post on the very first page of this thread. 
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on April 28, 2017, 10:59:59 AM
Once someone matures, it's really easy to put themselves in the mindset of the post-encounter, which makes avoidance super easy.

LOL yeah because so few mature people have affairs  ???   I mean, I guess you could retcon it and define maturity as the decision not to stray, but  outside of that, there are legions of people who are responsible and mature in pretty much every aspect of life who decide to cheat. And post-encounter (not to mention pre-encounter) isn't the same for everyone. Like I said in a previous post, when considering an affair, your rationalizations get distorted. Every sitch doesn't play out like a Lifetime movie.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on April 28, 2017, 11:12:55 AM
I know you told me (Howard) not to post, but I gotta chime in(sorry Al)

For me this issue is pretty simple:
If you want to screw around like a single man, get divorced and have at it.

No I'll STFU and go away

I am disappointed you decided to post here, but  I'll respond to this.

Full disclosure: My potential wandering eye is something that has been a very tense topic of discussion for me and wifey over the last few months. I kinda feel like it wouldn't be worth it or even appreciated to go into the whole thing in detail, but we are pretty open with each other and  this has been one of the issues we've been working through. Her perspective fluctuates between being less worried  because it means I am being upfront with her to being more worried because it means there is an issue she has no control over. This line of thinking is something she has addressed before. From an objective standpoint, she would rather not have a marriage that fell apart due to cheating. From a practical standpoint,  she can't imagine being less hurt if I chose to leave her before starting an affair. She can't imagine our post-divorce relationship being significantly better in that situation. Leaving a marriage because the problems are too great to work through is one thing, but leaving because you don't feel you can be faithful probably isn't something that most women would consider that much better than cheating. From a divorce perspective, you can probably extricate yourself a lot more cleanly, though.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 28, 2017, 11:15:27 AM
LOL yeah because so few mature people have affairs  ???   I mean, I guess you could retcon it and define maturity as the decision not to stray, but  outside of that, there are legions of people who are responsible and mature in pretty much every aspect of life who decide to cheat. And post-encounter (not to mention pre-encounter) aren't the same for everyone. Like I said in a previous post, when considering an affair, your rationalizations get distorted. Every sitch doesn't play out like a Lifetime movie.


More often than not - you will slip up and get found out.   Additionally, you have to think about how it might affect professional relationships as well.  Cheating on your wife while one has wife and kids is flat out reckless.  

If you need to get a divorce or go for counseling - do it.   But don't cheat and then expect to get sympathy afterwards that your marriage is a bore and you didnt first try to either divorce or fix it.  Secondly - if you cheat - then your wife gets a pass too - and lets say she hooks up w some thug from ghetto and gets her prego?  

See - shit is far more than about you now.    ;)
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 28, 2017, 11:17:56 AM
I am disappointed you decided to post here, but  I'll respond to this.

Full disclosure: My potential wandering eye is something that has been a very tense topic of discussion for me and wifey over the last few months. I kinda feel like it wouldn't be worth it or even appreciated to go into the whole thing in detail, but we are pretty open with each other and  this has been one of the issues we've been working through. Her perspective fluctuates between being less worried  because it means I am being upfront with her to being more worried because it means there is an issue she has no control over. This line of thinking is something she has addressed before. From an objective standpoint, she would rather not have a marriage that fell apart due to cheating. From a practical standpoint,  she can't imagine being less hurt if I chose to leave her before starting an affair. She can't imagine our post-divorce relationship being significantly better in that situation. Leaving a marriage because the problems are too great to work through is one thing, but leaving because you don't feel you can be faithful probably isn't something that most women would consider that much better than cheating. From a divorce perspective, you can probably extricate yourself a lot more cleanly, though.

Remember - you have kids - this shit matters to them and will down the line too.  its one thing if you explain that you just cant make it work vs daddy got caught running around w some floozy while mommy was home cooking and taking care of the kids and laundry.   
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Yanin on April 28, 2017, 11:24:32 AM
Get her a boob job take dick pills go have drinks with each other, you'll get over it
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 28, 2017, 11:37:54 AM
Seems your relationship is dead with her.  So what's going to happen?  you hook up with some chick, she fucks your brains out, now guess what.  you'll never want to fuck your wife again.  She'll either then start to cheat on you or resent you and your relationship will end anyways but will be a long drawn out suffering for you both.  Just cut it now.  end it and move on.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Henda on April 28, 2017, 11:48:46 AM

This is where kids actualy do keep marriages together, I think most men could live with an ex hating them without even giving it a second thought, your kids on the other hand... Totally different matter, they keep me on the straight and narrow


I can feel howie straining at the bit to jump in on this..

Spot on with this post couldn't agree more, not a day goes by I don't think about sex with random filthy slags and think about acting on these strong urges, they are almost unbearable but the just the thought of the kids and the fact that if something I did affected their lives in a negative way id never ever live with the guilt and regret it rest of my life is enough to stop
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on April 28, 2017, 11:48:54 AM
Remember - you have kids - this shit matters to them and will down the line too.  its one thing if you explain that you just cant make it work vs daddy got caught running around w some floozy while mommy was home cooking and taking care of the kids and laundry.   

Wait, weren't you one of the people trying to argue that trump was such a superior family man to Obama? This isn't even me trying to drag politics into something that doesn't have to be political, but I'm bringing it up because it just goes to show how easy it is to frame the idea of cheating in this Lifetime movie kinda way and then not  apply those standards irl.


None of this is to say that points you made and that others made aren't things to consider. As I've said, I am going back and forth on a lot of things. I'm not really at a place where i'm like "i'm trying to find a way to cheat", i'm really more "things get tough. what's a good way to deal with it?" We're really close to the 7 year mark  in our relationship, which is something I keep in mind.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: residue on April 28, 2017, 11:52:05 AM
Seems your relationship is dead with her.  So what's going to happen?  you hook up with some chick, she fucks your brains out, now guess what.  you'll never want to fuck your wife again.  She'll either then start to cheat on you or resent you and your relationship will end anyways but will be a long drawn out suffering for you both.  Just cut it now.  end it and move on.

or spice shit up; start buying toys, take her out to bars dressed like a slut, fuck her in public, fuck her on cam, introduce d\s play
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 28, 2017, 11:52:34 AM
Wait, weren't you one of the people trying to argue that trump was such a superior family man to Obama? This isn't even me trying to drag politics into something that doesn't have to be political, but I'm bringing it up because it just goes to show how easy it is to frame the idea of cheating in this Lifetime movie kinda way and then not  apply those standards irl.


None of this is to say that points you made and that others made aren't things to consider. As I've said, I am going back and forth on a lot of things. I'm not really at a place where i'm like "i'm trying to find a way to cheat", i'm really more "things get tough. what's a good way to deal with it?" We're really close to the 7 year mark  in our relationship, which is something I keep in mind.

I detest O-fag and will always find ways to trash her when i can.  You know that.   ;)


How long did you date before getting married?  I always say this to my friends - you need to be w someone long enough to see them at their both best and worst so you know exactly the full range of what you are dealing with.  
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Pray_4_War on April 28, 2017, 12:07:05 PM
Get her a boob job take dick pills go have drinks with each other, you'll get over it

I like this guy.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on April 28, 2017, 12:08:57 PM
I detest O-fag and will always find ways to trash her when i can.  You know that.   ;)


How long did you date before getting married?  I always say this to my friends - you need to be w someone long enough to see them at their both best and worst so you know exactly the full range of what you are dealing with.  


We've been married for 5 and dated for a little over a year before that.

I haven't gotten anything I didn't sign up for with my wife. Like I said earlier, I haven't fallen out of love, either. I've never been a cheater and have never identified with guys who A) enter relationships with women they clearly hate or B) claim they love women that they treat like shit.  
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Simple Simon on April 28, 2017, 12:13:23 PM
You don't have to - but its better for the kids if you care about how they are going to be raised and brought up. 

   
no it isnt, it makes no difference at all, marriage is just a religious and legal ceremony, it actually binds people together sometimes and has a negative effect on their relationship.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Grape Ape on April 28, 2017, 12:41:53 PM
LOL yeah because so few mature people have affairs  ???   I mean, I guess you could retcon it and define maturity as the decision not to stray, but  outside of that, there are legions of people who are responsible and mature in pretty much every aspect of life who decide to cheat. And post-encounter (not to mention pre-encounter) isn't the same for everyone. Like I said in a previous post, when considering an affair, your rationalizations get distorted. Every sitch doesn't play out like a Lifetime movie.

.
I used the term mature in the context of a mindset of someone who has been around a bit, vs someone who may be younger and only viewing it through the lens of the moment.

The evolution to a more mature perspective, in other words.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 28, 2017, 12:44:30 PM
no it isnt, it makes no difference at all, marriage is just a religious and legal ceremony, it actually binds people together sometimes and has a negative effect on their relationship.

Depends - a lot of time when the check has control over the situation totally - she can pick up and take off - then what are you going to do?  Go to court to enforce your "rights"   - please. 

Plus, what if the woman you had a kid with now marries or shacks up with some thug who you think is a danger or bad influence on your kid? 

Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Dave D on April 28, 2017, 12:54:45 PM

Cancer is a disease that often times results in death.There is a risk/ reward scenario with cheating that isn't there with cancer.  The point of the 60% thing was not to say that everyone is doing it so it must be okay, it was an attempt to guide things on to a more realistic, less melodramatic track. The simple fact of the matter is that cheating isn't a death sentence. In some situations, being exposed as a cheater can fuck up your life, but even that isn't 100% guaranteed. People cheat and are cheated on all the time and they move on with their lives.

That being said, the point of me starting this thread wasn't really to justify cheating, explain it away or get permission other getbiggers. The point of this thread was to have an honest discussion about trying to faithful.  Based on my posts in this thread, it's pretty clear that if I ever move into that direction of cheating, it will be something I arrive at with a lot of internal conflict. But the reality is the aftermath of having an affair exposed either changes your life or it doesn't and all parties have to move on with their life.

I'm not necessarily disappointed that so many of you are monogamy proponents, but I am surprised that so few of you have been tempted to stray.

But thanks for the response.  8)

I wasn't comparing cheating and cancer I was comparing situations people go through, my point was just because people live through and survive events doesn't mean you want to experience them.

I think many speak from experience, and speak from the effect of cheating in their own lives.

I understand your plight, temptation to cheat can be strong. Maybe the question you need to ask is how satisfied are you in your relationship?

Cheating isnt a death sentence. Neither is having multiple children with different mothers. When other people are involved is where things get difficult. Just because you can over come something doesn't mean everyone else will. I'm sure you know multiple adults that lament who their fathers were and what they did (and I realize these people need to move on from childhood trauma).

My point was you should stay true to yourself.  You said you've never cheated, don't start now.  And don't let your marriage be the relationship for the first time you do.

Also if you dont mind take your ring off the next few times you flirt with one of these chicks just to see their response. Ive noticed some women view married men as more desirable. I'm curious of your experiences.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Zillotch on April 28, 2017, 01:05:34 PM
u people r so stupid... oblivious to the reasons why infidelity, which destroys the foundational block upon which any civility amongst humanity is established... could possibly be a bad idea. lol

wade in ur muck, phaggots.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: pellius on April 28, 2017, 01:21:58 PM


 

(OP Note: No offense, Howard, but if you were considering posting in this thread, please don't.)



LOL! Howard was the first person I thought of when I read this post. It's so Howard. I'm late to this thread and haven't had time to go through it, nor did I intend to, but now I'm curious as fuck to see if Howard can restrain himself from this very simple request.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Simple Simon on April 28, 2017, 01:43:51 PM
Depends - a lot of time when the check has control over the situation totally - she can pick up and take off - then what are you going to do?  Go to court to enforce your "rights"   - please. 

Plus, what if the woman you had a kid with now marries or shacks up with some thug who you think is a danger or bad influence on your kid? 



errr... if you think your child is in danger then you contact the authorities, what difference would it make if it was your ex -wife, you are the father of the child, you have legal rights the same as an ex husband.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Ronnie Rep on April 28, 2017, 01:47:29 PM
u people r so stupid... oblivious to the reasons why infidelity, which destroys the foundational block upon which any civility amongst humanity is established... could possibly be a bad idea. lol

wade in ur muck, phaggots.
You actually uttered something that sounds somewhat intelligent.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Zillotch on April 28, 2017, 01:54:22 PM
You actually uttered something that sounds somewhat intelligent.

wonderful.... now u try, we can take turns.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Simple Simon on April 28, 2017, 02:05:22 PM
wonderful.... now u try, we can take turns.
;D
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: HockeyFightFan on April 28, 2017, 02:29:22 PM

We've been married for 5 and dated for a little over a year before that.

I haven't gotten anything I didn't sign up for with my wife. Like I said earlier, I haven't fallen out of love, either. I've never been a cheater and have never identified with guys who A) enter relationships with women they clearly hate or B) claim they love women that they treat like shit.  

I bet your wife is getting more side action than an NBA groupie.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Ronnie Rep on April 28, 2017, 02:48:07 PM
wonderful.... now u try, we can take turns.
On your Mother. :-*
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Zillotch on April 28, 2017, 03:15:15 PM
On your Mother. :-*

family, now theres a nifty topic for conversation here on getbig... so glad that u brought it up   ::)

ur simply too fucking dumb to comprehend the words that you say, and the ramifications that those words may have.... no forethought whatsoever, lol.

what to do with u.... give ya an ulcer... or leave u be?

renounce shizzo.... and I shall leave u alone
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Rusty Trombone on April 28, 2017, 03:40:18 PM
I've always considered myself a faithful, monogamous guy


Stopped reading at this
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Slapper on April 28, 2017, 04:12:30 PM
[...]I'm not necessarily disappointed that so many of you are monogamy proponents, but I am surprised that so few of you have been tempted to stray.[...]

What you're contemplating is something you do when you're 15, not in your 30s.

I guess that's what separates the men from the boys...

Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on April 28, 2017, 05:20:31 PM
What you're contemplating is something you do when you're 15, not in your 30s.

I guess that's what separates the men from the boys...



Yeah, you rarely hear about anyone older than 15 cheating on their wife.  ::) I get that you think you're a  "marriage warrior", but your posts have been consistently idiotic in this thread. Didn't you claim to not be interested in this thread? Why are you posting so much in it?  ???
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Irongrip400 on April 28, 2017, 05:41:18 PM
no it isnt, it makes no difference at all, marriage is just a religious and legal ceremony, it actually binds people together sometimes and has a negative effect on their relationship.

I'll agree it doesn't matter, if the family unit is under one roof. Split families are not good for children.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Slapper on April 28, 2017, 07:29:17 PM
Yeah, you rarely hear about anyone older than 15 cheating on their wife.  ::) I get that you think you're a  "marriage warrior", but your posts have been consistently idiotic in this thread. Didn't you claim to not be interested in this thread? Why are you posting so much in it?  ???

Grow up.

Boy.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on April 28, 2017, 08:02:43 PM
Pussy is pussy , after you bang the new chick and the rush of it wears off what are you left with? Something you can never get back
It's all pink on the inside
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: SF1900 on April 28, 2017, 08:35:27 PM
wonderful.... now u try, we can take turns.

LMAO!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: The Scott on April 28, 2017, 09:23:41 PM
Yeah, you rarely hear about anyone older than 15 cheating on their wife.  ::) I get that you think you're a  "marriage warrior", but your posts have been consistently idiotic in this thread. Didn't you claim to not be interested in this thread? Why are you posting so much in it?  ???

STFU and quit being such a wigglet.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on April 28, 2017, 09:32:22 PM
STFU and quit being such a wigglet.

... or what? You'll get triggered again and leave getbig for another 6 months.   ::)
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: The Scott on April 28, 2017, 09:36:31 PM
... or what? You'll get triggered again and leave getbig for another 6 months.   ::)

What?  Your wife wont fuck the neighbors dog to satisfy your cuckold ways?  Fuck off wigglet, you're in over your head in the shallow end of the gene pool.  Besides, your kind can't swim.  Go eat a bag of dicks, you sad sack of scrotum waffles.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on April 28, 2017, 09:40:39 PM
What?  Your wife wont fuck the neighbors dog to satisfy your cuckold ways?  Fuck off wigglet, you're in over your head in the shallow end of the gene pool.  Besides, your kind can't swim.  Go eat a bag of dick, you said sack of scrotum waffles.


Whilst.  :-\
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: The Scott on April 28, 2017, 09:42:24 PM

Whilst.  ::)

Not my problem you're a fucktard wigglet.   You're a waste of DNA.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on April 28, 2017, 09:45:16 PM
Not my problem you're a fucktard wigglet.   You're a waste of DNA.

Not my problem you had to take a six month sabbatical because someone made fun of your stupid, try hard posting style. Guess how little the opinion of someone who would have a meltdown over that matters to me?


(Here's a clue: so little that I didn't even bother making fun of it until that little chihuahua put on his big boy pants and tried to mouth off to me because it was so pathetic. )
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: local hero on April 29, 2017, 12:38:31 AM
So how about the mythical scenario in where you ste guaranteed to get away with it, your not going to het found out...

Balls deep?
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Tapeworm on April 29, 2017, 02:46:44 AM
So how about the mythical scenario in where you ste guaranteed to get away with it, your not going to het found out...

Balls deep?

Depends if you're in love with your wife or not. 
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: local hero on April 29, 2017, 03:48:02 AM
Depends if you're in love with your wife or not. 


Nah it doesn't.. Its no different then wanking over porn
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Ronnie Rep on April 29, 2017, 05:29:33 AM
family, now theres a nifty topic for conversation here on getbig... so glad that u brought it up   ::)

ur simply too fucking dumb to comprehend the words that you say, and the ramifications that those words may have.... no forethought whatsoever, lol.

what to do with u.... give ya an ulcer... or leave u be?

renounce shizzo.... and I shall leave u alone
We're even now. You can dish it out, but you can't take it. For your info, I never brought family into any conversation. You and W O D did..
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Never1AShow on April 29, 2017, 05:42:29 AM
LOL yeah because so few mature people have affairs  ???   I mean, I guess you could retcon it and define maturity as the decision not to stray, but  outside of that, there are legions of people who are responsible and mature in pretty much every aspect of life who decide to cheat. And post-encounter (not to mention pre-encounter) isn't the same for everyone. Like I said in a previous post, when considering an affair, your rationalizations get distorted. Every sitch doesn't play out like a Lifetime movie.


This guys 36, married, hitting on every attractive chick he sees, and posts long serious thoughts to a bodybuilding message board.

A.  He has already cheated and his marriage is over
B.  He is crazy and will end up with kids that hate him
C.  His wife must have lost her looks long ago
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Man of Steel on April 29, 2017, 05:50:59 AM
Don't be a typical, WEAK man that watches pornography, is consumed with lust, that repeatedly commits adultery or fornication, that engages prostitutes for sex, that disrespects women at every turn, that constantly says our desires as men can't be controlled, that lacks accountability for their actions and that reasons away the joys of marriage and family.  

Be a man with backbone and strength....integrity.  These other lowlife men that encourage the despicable things I first noted are the weakest, most pathetic middle age adolescents on the planet.  Following their example leads to absolute, meaningless nothingness.  Choose to act like a man not a stupid boy.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Ronnie Rep on April 29, 2017, 06:02:03 AM
Depends if you're in love with your wife or not. 
Love or not it's in our DNA to think about it. It's whether you act on it,without thinking about the ramafacations.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: bigmc on April 29, 2017, 06:06:35 AM
Don't be a typical, WEAK man that watches pornography, is consumed with lust, that repeatedly commits adultery or fornication, that engages prostitutes for sex, that disrespects women at every turn, that constantly says our desires as men can't be controlled, that lacks accountability for their actions and that reasons away the joys of marriage and family.  

Be a man with backbone and strength....integrity.  These other lowlife men that encourage the despicable things I first noted are the weakest, most pathetic middle age adolescents on the planet.  Following their example leads to absolute, meaningless nothingness.  Choose to act like a man not a stupid boy.

very patronising and condescending

epic projection of your own sin on to others
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Mr Anabolic on April 29, 2017, 07:17:00 AM
Don't be a typical, WEAK man that watches pornography, is consumed with lust, that repeatedly commits adultery or fornication, that engages prostitutes for sex, that disrespects women at every turn, that constantly says our desires as men can't be controlled, that lacks accountability for their actions and that reasons away the joys of marriage and family.  

Be a man with backbone and strength....integrity.  These other lowlife men that encourage the despicable things I first noted are the weakest, most pathetic middle age adolescents on the planet.  Following their example leads to absolute, meaningless nothingness.  Choose to act like a man not a stupid boy.

This is typical religious wing-nuttery.

Biology dictates/gives human males have these desires, it has nothing to do with sin or the devil.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: 10pints on April 29, 2017, 07:58:56 AM
Don't be a typical, WEAK man that watches pornography, is consumed with lust, that repeatedly commits adultery or fornication, that engages prostitutes for sex, that disrespects women at every turn, that constantly says our desires as men can't be controlled, that lacks accountability for their actions and that reasons away the joys of marriage and family.  

Be a man with backbone and strength....integrity.  These other lowlife men that encourage the despicable things I first noted are the weakest, most pathetic middle age adolescents on the planet.  Following their example leads to absolute, meaningless nothingness.  Choose to act like a man not a stupid boy.

And with the creation of the concept of original sin, Christianity judged everyone born - guilty of the crime of existence.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Zillotch on April 29, 2017, 08:06:56 AM
We're even now. You can dish it out, but you can't take it. For your info, I never brought family into any conversation. You and W O D did..

lol wut? u r the one whos sensitive about 'family', imbecile.

just for the record... what r your thoughts on shizzo?
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Never1AShow on April 29, 2017, 08:36:59 AM
Reading the Schwarzenegger thread I see that the solution to this dilemma is clearly getting a Guatemalan maid.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on April 29, 2017, 08:51:12 AM
Depends if you're in love with your wife or not. 


Et tu, tapeworm?   :'(

But, yeah, like the other poster said, I don't think it's an issue of love. I think there is a real difference between respecting your relationship and loving your partner. I'm not trying to pump up the virtue of the latter or denigrate the virtue of the former. I'm just saying that I conflated the two for a long time when I never considered succumbing to temptation. Fast forward circa now and I can recognize how those emotions don't fit in a neat,little box. People have conflicting emotions about love all the time. If I chose to sleep with someone else, it wouldn't be because I was in love with them. If I left my wife before cheating on her, imo, that wouldn't be a sign of love. I don't think she would feel loved afterwards. It would be a sign of courtesy and respect. The type you might show a co-worker. Once again, not trying to make cheating sound virtuous, just saying that the feelings that lead up to it are more complicated than simply no longer loving your partner.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: The Scott on April 29, 2017, 08:59:38 AM
Not my problem you had to take a six month sabbatical because someone made fun of your stupid, try hard posting style. Guess how little the opinion of someone who would have a meltdown over that matters to me?


(Here's a clue: so little that I didn't even bother making fun of it until that little chihuahua put on his big boy pants and tried to mouth off to me because it was so pathetic. )

Wow.  What an arteest.  You're a pathetic cuckold.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: The Scott on April 29, 2017, 09:02:40 AM
very patronising and condescending

epic projection of your own sin on to others

So does this mean you're a cuckold like the OP?  Fidelity in a relationship means nothing to you and the idea of sloppy seconds and more excites rather than disgusts you?

Say it ain't so because I doubt you're a fan of moral limbo like good ol' Charlie Brownose, aka Al Doggity.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on April 29, 2017, 09:12:59 AM
So does this mean you're a cuckold like the OP?  Fidelity in a relationship means nothing to you and the idea of sloppy seconds and more excites rather than disgusts you?

Say it ain't so because I doubt you're a fan of moral limbo like good ol' Charlie Brownose, aka Al Doggity.


When you're not folding like a cheap suit, you're pulling out those depression era insults. Pop a Xanax and keep yapping away, chihuahua. Hopefully, for your sake, someone's buying into it.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: The Scott on April 29, 2017, 09:16:13 AM
When you're not folding like a cheap suit, you're pulling out those depression era insults. Pop a Xanax and keep yapping away, chihuahua. Hopefully, for your sake, someone's buying into it.


Do I need to call the (http://memecrunch.com/meme/UBVT/ghetto-ambulance/image.png)

"In the ghet-toooooo...
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on April 29, 2017, 09:19:32 AM

Do I need to call the (http://memecrunch.com/meme/UBVT/ghetto-ambulance/image.png)

"In the ghet-toooooo...

To drop you at the loony bin?  ???  Hopefully, you know your limits. Internetz is obviously *serious bizness* for you, so do  whatever you need to do.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Ronnie Rep on April 29, 2017, 09:28:02 AM
lol wut? u r the one whos sensitive about 'family', imbecile.

just for the record... what r your thoughts on shizzo?
You think you and WOT are gonna change my opinion. :D
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Man of Steel on April 29, 2017, 11:10:28 AM
So I waited before responding so other God haters convicted by my post would demonstrate exactly what I stated in my post....and they did not disappoint:

very patronising and condescending

epic projection of your own sin on to others

Here's one example of "no accountability" I noted.

This is typical religious wing-nuttery.

Biology dictates/gives human males have these desires, it has nothing to do with sin or the devil.

Here's one example of "men can't  control their desires" I noted.

And with the creation of the concept of original sin, Christianity judged everyone born - guilty of the crime of existence.

Here's a red herring coupled with an example of "reasoning away" the adoption of good behavior I noted.

In short when Christians bring the light the God haters are instantly convicted and must run from it.  Thank you for the demonstration boys.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 29, 2017, 12:18:36 PM
Despite the judgement calls of me and my past marriages, I've never cheated or even considered it. It's a line I haven't or ever will cross.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Simple Simon on April 29, 2017, 12:19:52 PM
Despite the judgement calls of me and my past marriages, I've never cheated or even considered it. It's a line I haven't or ever will cross.

i have seen your photos, its amazing you can find one woman let alone another one to cheat with.

 ;D
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: The Scott on April 29, 2017, 12:21:55 PM
To drop you at the loony bin?  ???  Hopefully, you know your limits. Internetz is obviously *serious bizness* for you, so do  whatever you need to do.

Go fuck your mother some more, you illegitimate wigglet.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: WeightPSHR on April 29, 2017, 12:37:14 PM
Integrity. Some have it, most don't. I'm not going to scold anyone on their choices, each their own.

But I will tell you this. Marriage or not, making conscious  decisions that you know would hurt another person are cowardly and it's even worse when it's someone you care about.

Don't be average. Take pride in yourself and be proud of what you have by acting like your wife and loved ones can see you all the time. My saying "act as if someone is always watching" for the most part.

Integrity. Remember that word. It will take you far in life and can make you immensely happy and proud.

I tend to ban oddball and I do things 'my way'. I've been with the same woman, the mother of my children for more than 10 years. We don't ever want to be married. Makes things real easy and relatively speaking, it would be pretty easy for either of us to walk away. Keeps it real open and honest. I'm the bread winner, but I need her like she needs me and we share finances. Takes a huge amount of trust, but I could not be happier. I am proud of us and never speak to colleagues, friends or family of other hot woman becuase I want people to know I'm a happy man who has a partner I respect. It shows integrity which has taken me pretty far in my life and given me many opportunities.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on April 29, 2017, 01:16:16 PM
Go fuck your mother some more, you illegitimate wigglet.


I'll bet you were crying as you typed this.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Tapeworm on April 29, 2017, 05:16:58 PM

Et tu, tapeworm?   :'(

But, yeah, like the other poster said, I don't think it's an issue of love. I think there is a real difference between respecting your relationship and loving your partner. I'm not trying to pump up the virtue of the latter or denigrate the virtue of the former. I'm just saying that I conflated the two for a long time when I never considered succumbing to temptation. Fast forward circa now and I can recognize how those emotions don't fit in a neat,little box. People have conflicting emotions about love all the time. If I chose to sleep with someone else, it wouldn't be because I was in love with them. If I left my wife before cheating on her, imo, that wouldn't be a sign of love. I don't think she would feel loved afterwards. It would be a sign of courtesy and respect. The type you might show a co-worker. Once again, not trying to make cheating sound virtuous, just saying that the feelings that lead up to it are more complicated than simply no longer loving your partner.



I'm not buying any of the other reasons mentioned in this thread why you shouldn't cheat.  They all admit that you want to but say you shouldn't for some reason involving consequences.  Fuck that.  I'm saying if things are right then you genuinely wouldn't want to.

I see 3 possibilities for you:

1. Love gets eroded by day to day crap and this has consequences in the bedroom.

2. You're not getting what you want from sexual interactions with her.  Maybe you have some weird shit going on.  Maybe she does.  Relax, we all do.

3. Love just doesn't last.  If it solves the problem of lust at all it doesn't do it forever.  

2/3 of these you could potentially solve.  Only you know if it's worth trying to.

Or maybe you just like flirting.  It's a fun ego boost.  

There's no evidence that love is an emotion I'm capable of so I'm kind of guessing.  Anyway, yes, you should respect your relationship.  But you should want to, right?  Not just respect it because you have to.  If a relationship is some grim forced march then what the hell are you doing?  Lots of people do that imo.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Slapper on April 29, 2017, 07:37:18 PM

I'm not buying any of the other reasons mentioned in this thread why you shouldn't cheat.  They all admit that you want to but say you shouldn't for some reason involving consequences.  Fuck that.  I'm saying if things are right then you genuinely wouldn't want to.

I see 3 possibilities for you:

1. Love gets eroded by day to day crap and this has consequences in the bedroom.

2. You're not getting what you want from sexual interactions with her.  Maybe you have some weird shit going on.  Maybe she does.  Relax, we all do.

3. Love just doesn't last.  If it solves the problem of lust at all it doesn't do it forever.  

2/3 of these you could potentially solve.  Only you know if it's worth trying to.

Or maybe you just like flirting.  It's a fun ego boost.  

There's no evidence that love is an emotion I'm capable of so I'm kind of guessing.  Anyway, yes, you should respect your relationship.  But you should want to, right?  Not just respect it because you have to.  If a relationship is some grim forced march then what the hell are you doing?  Lots of people do that imo.

Then get divorced and get your sillies out as much as you want! Don't do it while you're married.

I really did not know what a bunch of whiny-ass little pussies some of you are, complaining about your wives to perfect strangers, when the best and most practical option would be to settle discrepancies with her. Sex-wise, your wife ought to succumb to your wishes, and vice versa. It won't happen overnight, but if you have to beg or get on your knees to get a blow job or anal from her, YOU are the idiot, and bad in the sack I might add.

And getting a goomah won't do nothing but satisfy the short term urge. Dassit. You will still be shit in bed and won't be able to "train" your female, or male, to engage in the filthiest shit that you want to take part in THAT night.

It's a vicious circle that will tsunami its way through your family, your kids, everyone.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Slapper on April 29, 2017, 07:43:58 PM
So how about the mythical scenario in where you ste guaranteed to get away with it, your not going to het found out...

Balls deep?

That's perfectly fine. No one finds out but the two consenting adults: you get your dick sucked by another female, go home and then feel like shit because you have to kiss your kids with the same mouth that was 2 inches deep in a completely unknown's vagina 8 hours before.

What's not to like?
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Fortress on April 29, 2017, 08:42:32 PM
Lifetime monogamy is not natural. However, if you marry with this fundamental understood as a requirement, stay the course and don't cheat.

Me, I'd strongly suggest a majority of men DO NOT marry.

The pain and frustration you experience when you've grown beyond tired of fucking that same old pussy, decade after decade, is extreme. It will make you angry and bitter. Your relationship will erode. It's inevitable.

If you come to love a woman and desire her romantically, ride that wave for as long as it lasts. But do not marry her. If she becomes the woman with whom you choose to have your children, do marry her, but know your sex life will deteriorate gradually until, sooner or later, it will no longer exist. Wanking will be your only saving grace.

But your children don't deserve a sneaking, lying father.

Life is cruel. It is hell.

Best to stay single, engage in an honest sexual experience where available, allow maturity to inform you of your honest appraisal of fatherhood, avoid drugs and booze, and keep a majority at arms' length. Humans are dangerous. Extremely dangerous.

Our sex drives are a curse. Know this.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Tapeworm on April 29, 2017, 09:54:07 PM
Then get divorced and get your sillies out as much as you want! Don't do it while you're married.

I really did not know what a bunch of whiny-ass little pussies some of you are, complaining about your wives to perfect strangers, when the best and most practical option would be to settle discrepancies with her. Sex-wise, your wife ought to succumb to your wishes, and vice versa. It won't happen overnight, but if you have to beg or get on your knees to get a blow job or anal from her, YOU are the idiot, and bad in the sack I might add.

And getting a goomah won't do nothing but satisfy the short term urge. Dassit. You will still be shit in bed and won't be able to "train" your female, or male, to engage in the filthiest shit that you want to take part in THAT night.

It's a vicious circle that will tsunami its way through your family, your kids, everyone.

Maybe the institution of marriage is just incompatible with human nature.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Slapper on April 30, 2017, 05:02:10 AM
Maybe the institution of marriage is just incompatible with human nature.

With some males/females, absolutely.

Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Slapper on April 30, 2017, 05:12:34 AM
[...]but know your sex life will deteriorate gradually until, sooner or later, it will no longer exist.[...]

Wait, what?!

IFF you suck in bed and can't mix it up, absolutely.

I'm in my forties and having the best sex of my life (married for 20). Everything is on the menu.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: B_B_C on April 30, 2017, 05:23:04 AM
So I waited before responding so other God haters convicted by my post would demonstrate exactly what I stated in my post....and they did not disappoint:

Here's one example of "no accountability" I noted.

Here's one example of "men can't  control their desires" I noted.

Here's a red herring coupled with an example of "reasoning away" the adoption of good behavior I noted.

In short when Christians bring the light the God haters are instantly convicted and must run from it.  Thank you for the demonstration boys.


Blessed are we that can learn from your humility
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Man of Steel on April 30, 2017, 06:30:04 AM

Blessed are we that can learn from your humility

 ::)
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Never1AShow on April 30, 2017, 07:11:57 AM
We are on page 7 of this thread and still do not know if the issue here is that his wife got fat and ugly. 

Also I know many men who got divorced thinking they'd be banging new girls every night then went out and married the next piece of decent looking tail to come along.  (Not meant to invite Howard back into thread)
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Never1AShow on April 30, 2017, 07:15:56 AM
Wait, what?!

IFF you suck in bed and can't mix it up, absolutely.

I'm in my forties and having the best sex of my life (married for 20). Everything is on the menu.

Gotta agree here.  I don't know maybe some people just get lucky with sex drive, partners, etc, but it can be great even after many years.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: rocket on April 30, 2017, 07:40:57 AM
I don't love my wife less than I did a few years ago and I love my little family unit, but just slipping in a one night stand here and there is becoming an all consuming thought. I just keep cycling through the same arguments: every relationship comes to this point, she'll either have to forgive me or we'll both just have to move on with our lives, etc...

You will only understand how much you love your wife, when you've fucked it all up and ruined it.

Similarly, you will only understand how earth shatteringly terrible of an affair this will be for your wife, when you've fucked her all up and ruined it.

I don't judge you for your thoughts, expect the one about how she will "have to forgive you".

That, my friend, is some motherfucking cold shit, right there.

If you're thinking about fucking another girl, more power to you, but I label you as a scumbag who doesn't deserve your wife if you sit there thinking it is even a possibility that you could exploit your wife's forgiveness to have your cake and eat it too. 

Fix your head up and thinking about it properly.  If you cheat on your wife, that's it, you don't deserve to be with her. 

Yes, this is a bit harsh, but consider how little respect you have if you're plotting to perpetrate probably the worst moment of your wife's life (or very high up there) and then get away with it.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Rascal full on April 30, 2017, 07:56:44 AM
Some good advice in this thread. You still love your wife and obviously your kid so I'd say no temporary pleasure is worth losing that. Longterm satisfaction out weighs short term pleasure.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on April 30, 2017, 07:57:57 AM

I'm not buying any of the other reasons mentioned in this thread why you shouldn't cheat.  They all admit that you want to but say you shouldn't for some reason involving consequences.  Fuck that.  I'm saying if things are right then you genuinely wouldn't want to.

I see 3 possibilities for you:

1. Love gets eroded by day to day crap and this has consequences in the bedroom.

2. You're not getting what you want from sexual interactions with her.  Maybe you have some weird shit going on.  Maybe she does.  Relax, we all do.

3. Love just doesn't last.  If it solves the problem of lust at all it doesn't do it forever.  

2/3 of these you could potentially solve.  Only you know if it's worth trying to.

Or maybe you just like flirting.  It's a fun ego boost.  

There's no evidence that love is an emotion I'm capable of so I'm kind of guessing.  Anyway, yes, you should respect your relationship.  But you should want to, right?  Not just respect it because you have to.  If a relationship is some grim forced march then what the hell are you doing?  Lots of people do that imo.



Not necessarily. Just as an example, I'll use my relationship with my daughter. I love my children more than anything in the world, but at the same time, there are only so many hours in the day. I honestly do enjoy spending time with her, but on weekdays when she wants to have a tea party that's gonna take a minimum of an hour, my mind is always in a thousand different places. My love for her doesn't change the fact that sometimes spending time with her is a responsibility. There are times when I just wish she'd make our tea parties much shorter, but I know it's important for a father to spend quality time with his daughter. We have had a part-time nanny for the past few years (like a lot of young families in cities do) The fact that there are some things that we hired someone else to handle doesn't mean that we love our kids less.


Monogamy is sort of like a "family responsibility" to your partner. It's not always something you want to do just because you love the person. It doesn't mean that everything about the relationship or your life is grim. It just means that your sex drive is still functional.  
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on April 30, 2017, 08:02:27 AM
I don't judge you for your thoughts, expect the one about how she will "have to forgive you".

That, my friend, is some motherfucking cold shit, right there.


I never said she'll have to forgive. What I said is that when cycling through arguments in my head, one of them is that  she'll either have to forgive or she won't and then we'll both move on with our lives. Meaning that if I were to have an affair and she ended up finding out, she either has the option of forgiving me or not forgiving me and ending the relationship.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on April 30, 2017, 08:05:24 AM
Some good advice in this thread. You still love your wife and obviously your kid so I'd say no temporary pleasure is worth losing that. Longterm satisfaction out weighs short term pleasure.

Yeah, bruh, sometimes you just need to talk shit out. There's some saying about how it's easier to give advice to other people than to follow your own advice.

Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Rascal full on April 30, 2017, 08:08:52 AM
Yeah, bruh, sometimes you just need to talk shit out. There's some saying about how it's easier to give advice to other people than to follow your own advice.



Oh, I agree 100%. I'm not suggesting this is easy in anyway shape or form. Temptation is a killer whether it's women, drink, drugs, gambling, whatever. All I am saying is sometimes in life you have more to lose and it can help reminding yourself that the pay off isn't worth the risk. Helps me sometimes when I am tempted to do shit I know I shouldn't.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Thong Maniac on April 30, 2017, 08:16:34 AM
Al, could you talk with your wife and maybe be vocal about what u need sexually?
i think its totally natural to think about strange pussy/cock. i know lots of guys who cheat or want to. most guys who have unlimited options shouldnt marry unless they like being tied down. i dont have options because of either my lack of confidence, personality isnt "fun loving", or i look like a troll, etc . we will never know. if you have options and are not enjoying your life, maybe just get a divorce and move on. thats the easiest. juggling home life and a side fling cant be fun. id imagine its very stressful.

Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: polychronopolous on April 30, 2017, 09:03:37 AM
Al, could you talk with your wife and maybe be vocal about what u need sexually?
i think its totally natural to think about strange pussy/cock.



Yes. For many getbiggers this last part must be emphasized.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Man of Steel on April 30, 2017, 09:39:41 AM
Just don't cheat.  If you're gonna make a decision to do something ask yourself if your significant other or parents would approve and be proud of you.  If your significant other, friends and parents happen to be morally and spirituality bankrupt then simply seek Christ and scripture...if you don't conform to that standard you're flat wrong and need change.  If this post offends you then you're exactly who needs to make change.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on April 30, 2017, 10:01:04 AM
It's not cheating to have a stripper rub one out in front of you and you jerk yourself off and cum on her tits.  Just don't touch her.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: SF1900 on April 30, 2017, 10:17:44 AM
It's not cheating to have a stripper rub one out in front of you and you jerk yourself off and cum on her tits.  Just don't touch her.

I wonder why Goodrum and Queen Vissy separated.  ??? ??? :'( :'(
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on April 30, 2017, 12:19:45 PM
Horrible guidance....the epitome of a debased, worldly mind....shameful.



 ???
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: nzmusclemonster on April 30, 2017, 02:16:59 PM
Don't be a typical, WEAK man that watches pornography, is consumed with lust, that repeatedly commits adultery or fornication, that engages prostitutes for sex, that disrespects women at every turn, that constantly says our desires as men can't be controlled, that lacks accountability for their actions and that reasons away the joys of marriage and family.  

Be a man with backbone and strength....integrity.  These other lowlife men that encourage the despicable things I first noted are the weakest, most pathetic middle age adolescents on the planet.  Following their example leads to absolute, meaningless nothingness.  Choose to act like a man not a stupid boy.

LOL this guy is hilarious  ;D
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Fortress on April 30, 2017, 02:30:38 PM
Wait, what?!

IFF you suck in bed and can't mix it up, absolutely.

I'm in my forties and having the best sex of my life (married for 20). Everything is on the menu.

You've done well. Happy for you. However, 20 years in, and only in your forties, is still, relatively, early in the marriage.

"Everything on the menu" except fresh and exciting new pussy. The PRIME factor in overload desire.

And if your wife allows you to smash other gash, well, your opinion here doesn't count.

But as I say, you're doing better than most.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Yamcha on April 30, 2017, 02:50:18 PM


 I love my children more than anything in the world,...


Haven't read all 7 pages, but:

That's what would keep me from cheating on my wife.

there's a chance that you'd have to explain to your children one day what happened if the marriage fell apart; or worse - your ex-wife would explain to them what happened.  :-X
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Grape Ape on April 30, 2017, 03:11:48 PM
Wait, what?!

IFF you suck in bed and can't mix it up, absolutely.

I'm in my forties and having the best sex of my life (married for 20). Everything is on the menu.

So many don't understand this.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Fortress on April 30, 2017, 04:04:51 PM
So many don't understand this.

Give it a rest. How many times can the same two people "mix it up"? Within several hundred fucks you'd be flinging poop at each other, desperate to continue the "excitement" charade.

Having a comforting and easy sexual experience with your spouse is all well and good, but after plunging your hog into that same hole THOUSANDS of times, only a beta who knows he'd never score another kunt could NOT go slightly mad with the monotony.

Sex excitement is a romantic notion. Real life, day in and day out, kills romance.

If you've been married 30 years and say you wouldn't tag ANY other broad if it was all well and good, you're either a liar or an anomaly.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: _aj_ on April 30, 2017, 04:12:52 PM
Among so many other obvious reasons, I want to be a role model for my son. I want him to grow up seeing his dad love and respect his mother so that he will do the same for the love of his life.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Grape Ape on April 30, 2017, 04:24:33 PM
Give it a rest. How many times can the same two people "mix it up"? Within several hundred fucks you'd be flinging poop at each other, desperate to continue the "excitement" charade.

Having a comforting and easy sexual experience with your spouse is all well and good, but after plunging your hog into that same hole THOUSANDS of times, only a beta who knows he'd never score another kunt could NOT go slightly mad with the monotony.

Sex excitement is a romantic notion. Real life, day in and day out, kills romance.

If you've been married 30 years and say you wouldn't tag ANY other broad if it was all well and good, you're either a liar or an anomaly.

Your last sentence is changing the context.

Disagree on the beta comment too.  Alpha is doing what you what but also defining it yourself.

Either way, to each his own dude.  As stated, things are different looking from the outside than those experiencing it.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Fortress on April 30, 2017, 04:25:38 PM
Your last sentence is changing the context.

Disagree on the beta comment too.  Alpha is doing what you what but also defining it yourself.

Either way, to each his own dude.  As stated, things are different looking from the outside than those experiencing it.

Fair enough.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Tapeworm on April 30, 2017, 04:30:47 PM

Monogamy is sort of like a "family responsibility" to your partner.


Hot.

The million dollar question is: Why isn't your sex drive directed exclusively toward your wife?  There was a time when it was but now it isn't.  So what changed and can humpty dumpty be put back together again?

Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: OlympiaGym on April 30, 2017, 04:51:14 PM
Do you think Trump's kids care that he cheated on their mothers? Of course not. They know he's too much man for one woman and they respect him for it. Your kids won't respect you for being a silly, pussy-whipped cuck. Half of them will become heroin addicts. They will respect you more for grabbing the world by the balls and taking what's yours.


Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Never1AShow on April 30, 2017, 05:31:50 PM
Hot.
The million dollar question is: Why isn't your sex drive directed exclusively toward your wife?  There was a time when it was but now it isn't.  So what changed and can humpty dumpty be put back together again?

This is what I keep saying, what happened to the wife's?  Is she the same as when they first got married or did she cut her hair short, get fat and just let herself go?  Does she still look hot?
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Slapper on April 30, 2017, 06:28:33 PM
Give it a rest. How many times can the same two people "mix it up"? Within several hundred fucks you'd be flinging poop at each other, desperate to continue the "excitement" charade.

Oh boy... You must be shit in the sack dude. No offense.  

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Having a comforting and easy sexual experience with your spouse is all well and good, but after plunging your hog into that same hole THOUSANDS of times, only a beta who knows he'd never score another kunt could NOT go slightly mad with the monotony.


Not at all. We do vagina, anal and oral. I know math is not your thing but... needless to say, it's more than one "same hole". Apart from this, we try to mix up the location, the positions and the frequency. For example, I knew she was going to be on her heavy flow this week, hence I retracted from masturbation for three weeks. Although I'm extremely hostile (due to the high libido,) I hang on because I know that in a week's time, when she's ready for ranga-ranga, I'm going to go Peter North on her in multiple time zones, holes and positions. I get hard just thinking about it.    

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Sex excitement is a romantic notion. Real life, day in and day out, kills romance.


I've got a dick, she's got a vagina, I like vagina and she likes dick. If you can't connect the dots or make time to connect the dots, don't blame it on her, you're just terrible in bed. I GUARANTEE you that even if you're 80, if you know how to lay down the pipe, albeit a little help from the blue pill, you will get some action once in a while.  

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If you've been married 30 years and say you wouldn't tag ANY other broad if it was all well and good, you're either a liar or an anomaly.

Don't get me wrong, if a bag pussies happens to fall out of the sky and land on my dick and I know for sure that no "drama" is to ensue, I will do it. I just won't come to a forum to talk about it. Or worse, talk about me contemplating such a thing.

Capisci?
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Slapper on April 30, 2017, 06:40:28 PM
But as I say, you're doing better than most.

How do you know that?  ::)

You're watching too many movies.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Fortress on April 30, 2017, 06:52:43 PM
Oh boy... You must be shit in the sack dude. No offense.  
 

Not at all. We do vagina, anal and oral. I know math is not your thing but... needless to say, it's more than one "same hole". Apart from this, we try to mix up the location, the positions and the frequency. For example, I knew she was going to be on her heavy flow this week, hence I retracted from masturbation for three weeks. Although I'm extremely hostile (due to the high libido,) I hang on because I know that in a week's time, when she's ready for ranga-ranga, I'm going to go Peter North on her in multiple time zones, holes and positions. I get hard just thinking about it.    
 

I've got a dick, she's got a vagina, I like vagina and she likes dick. If you can't connect the dots or make time to connect the dots, don't blame it on her, you're just terrible in bed. I GUARANTEE you that even if you're 80, if you know how to lay down the pipe, albeit a little help from the blue pill, you will get some action once in a while.  

Don't get me wrong, if a bag pussies happens to fall out of the sky and land on my dick and I know for sure that no "drama" is to ensue, I will do it. I just won't come to a forum to talk about it. Or worse, talk about me contemplating such a thing.

Capisci?

Terrific.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: rocket on April 30, 2017, 07:44:03 PM

I never said she'll have to forgive. What I said is that when cycling through arguments in my head, one of them is that  she'll either have to forgive or she won't and then we'll both move on with our lives. Meaning that if I were to have an affair and she ended up finding out, she either has the option of forgiving me or not forgiving me and ending the relationship.

I did understand your original comments.  I probably didn't explain myself well enough.

I said you are a scumbag if you are seriously thinking as you seem to depict, where you appear to be roleplaying the future where she possibly forgives you (ie, you having your cake and eating it, too).

I'm not entirely sure whether that would be easy for you to understand, but it's a very subtle, but extremely selfish thought.  It's the talk of somebody thinking about himself only - who is already thinking strategically that maybe he can pull shit this shit and keep on truckin with the wife. 

And like I said, that is cold blooded - because the worst thing to happen is for your wife to find out and then be forced to forgive you, because she fears finding a new man and starting again.  That's terrible and that shit happens all the time and the person who cheated profits, richly from that, whilst the other person has the worst time, imaginable.

I think you'll probably find your dalliance to be sub-par, so I wouldn't say "break it off with her", but I would say this - if you do do it, you absolutely must never, ever tell her.  If you find yourself addicted to it, you must break it off with her and again, never, ever tell her that you've already strayed. 

And that might seem like selfish commentary but actually, I'm just thinking about your wife and how to minimise the harm to her and it doesn't matter how much she wants to know the truth, the truth will only make it worse for her.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Man of Steel on May 01, 2017, 06:37:56 AM

 ???

I quoted the wrong post....my mistake....my apologies to Thong Maniac.  I've removed my response. The other post I intended to quote was already taken down by either the poster or a mod.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Man of Steel on May 01, 2017, 06:40:18 AM
LOL this guy is hilarious  ;D

That's what I do nz...comic relief!  I deliver a hilarious, rib-tickling message of grace and righteousness so people can avoid an eternity in hell separated from God.   I was giggling so much while typing this I almost couldn't post, but that's what's so funny.....helping deliver people from eternal torment.   I feel like Chris Rock!
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on May 01, 2017, 10:33:32 AM
Hot.

The million dollar question is: Why isn't your sex drive directed exclusively toward your wife?  There was a time when it was but now it isn't.  So what changed and can humpty dumpty be put back together again?




Because I'm a human male. My sex-drive was never directed "exclusively" towards my wife. I mean, there was no point when I wasn't aroused by other women. But I guess it's sort of like having your favorite meal everyday. It could be a full course dinner prepared by michelin starred chef, but after a certain point, a slice from Papa John's is going to sound really appealing.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: polychronopolous on May 01, 2017, 10:35:49 AM

Because I'm a human male. My sex-drive was never directed "exclusively" towards my wife. I mean, there was no point when I wasn't aroused by other women. But I guess it's sort of like having your favorite meal everyday. It could be a full course dinner prepared by michelin starred chef, but after a certain point, a slice from Papa John's is going to sound really appealing.

Pick up your taste buds off the ground a little bit.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on May 01, 2017, 10:53:43 AM
Pick up your taste buds off the ground a little bit.

Read it again. The point of the comparison might have gone over your head.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Man of Steel on May 01, 2017, 11:00:01 AM

Because I'm a human male. My sex-drive was never directed "exclusively" towards my wife. I mean, there was no point when I wasn't aroused by other women. But I guess it's sort of like having your favorite meal everyday. It could be a full course dinner prepared by michelin starred chef, but after a certain point, a slice from Papa John's is going to sound really appealing.

Just a matter of exercising self-restraint instead of justifying reasons to cheat.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Rusty Trombone on May 01, 2017, 12:25:24 PM
Wait, what?!

IFF you suck in bed and can't mix it up, absolutely.

I'm in my forties and having the best sex of my life (married for 20). Everything is on the menu.

Only if she agreed to swing or threesomes occasionally.

Otherwise it wouldn't work for me long term.

Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: OlympiaGym on May 01, 2017, 01:48:20 PM

Because I'm a human male. My sex-drive was never directed "exclusively" towards my wife. I mean, there was no point when I wasn't aroused by other women. But I guess it's sort of like having your favorite meal everyday. It could be a full course dinner prepared by michelin starred chef, but after a certain point, a slice from Papa John's is going to sound really appealing.

Aren't you a bro? Black guys don't do monogamy. Who you trying to kid?
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: pellius on May 01, 2017, 02:00:54 PM
Give it a rest. How many times can the same two people "mix it up"? Within several hundred fucks you'd be flinging poop at each other, desperate to continue the "excitement" charade.

Having a comforting and easy sexual experience with your spouse is all well and good, but after plunging your hog into that same hole THOUSANDS of times, only a beta who knows he'd never score another kunt could NOT go slightly mad with the monotony.

Sex excitement is a romantic notion. Real life, day in and day out, kills romance.

If you've been married 30 years and say you wouldn't tag ANY other broad if it was all well and good, you're either a liar or an anomaly.

LOL, you have a way with words.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: pellius on May 01, 2017, 02:09:05 PM
Hot.

The million dollar question is: Why isn't your sex drive directed exclusively toward your wife?  There was a time when it was but now it isn't.  So what changed and can humpty dumpty be put back together again?




There was never a time when a man's sex drive was directed exclusively toward his wife. There may have been a time when personal morality and stigma tended to minimize cheating but the urge and drive was always there. Men are naturally polygamous. It makes sense when you look at it from a evolutionary stand point. It's more natural for women to be monogamous because of the investment they have to make in bearing children. They have to be more choosey in finding alphas that will enhance their survival.
 
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on May 01, 2017, 06:22:58 PM
Give it a rest. How many times can the same two people "mix it up"? Within several hundred fucks you'd be flinging poop at each other, desperate to continue the "excitement" charade.

Having a comforting and easy sexual experience with your spouse is all well and good, but after plunging your hog into that same hole THOUSANDS of times, only a beta who knows he'd never score another kunt could NOT go slightly mad with the monotony.

Sex excitement is a romantic notion. Real life, day in and day out, kills romance.

If you've been married 30 years and say you wouldn't tag ANY other broad if it was all well and good, you're either a liar or an anomaly.

Serious question Fortress. How do you think the issue of marriage should be considered under a National Socialist government and that you wish to see the white race increase in numbers? I find your dim view on it perhaps conflicting with your racial sentiment. Again, totally serious question. You're a bright man.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Fallsview on May 01, 2017, 06:30:46 PM
Serious question Fortress. How do you think the issue of marriage should be considered under a National Socialist and that you wish to see the white race increase in numbers? I find your dim view on it perhaps conflicting with your racial sentiment. Again, totally serious question. You're a bright man.

Fortress is smart because He's gone up to grade 13.





STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Skeeter on May 01, 2017, 06:34:28 PM
Serious question Fortress. How do you think the issue of marriage should be considered under a National Socialist and that you wish to see the white race increase in numbers? I find your dim view on it perhaps conflicting with your racial sentiment. Again, totally serious question. You're a bright man.

I think fortress is more an Ernst Röhm type of nazi.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Fortress on May 01, 2017, 06:37:09 PM
Just don't cheat.  If you're gonna make a decision to do something ask yourself if your significant other or parents would approve and be proud of you.  If your significant other, friends and parents happen to be morally and spirituality bankrupt then simply seek Christ and scripture...if you don't conform to that standard you're flat wrong and need change.  If this post offends you then you're exactly who needs to make change.

You delusional weaklings and your "scripture".  ::)
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Never1AShow on May 01, 2017, 06:41:43 PM
Just a matter of exercising self-restraint instead of justifying reasons to cheat.

Not only is this thread just an exercise in come up with justifications to cheat, I think he already has a specific person picked out to cheat with.  Still no answer on whether wife let herself go.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Hypertrophy on May 01, 2017, 06:57:04 PM
Cheating is an artificial concept. Men were designed to impregnate as many as possible.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Fortress on May 01, 2017, 07:10:24 PM
As long as you tell the slut with whom you're cheating it-doesn't-mean-anything, you are in the clear.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: The Scott on May 01, 2017, 07:49:15 PM
OP is a cuckold.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Tapeworm on May 02, 2017, 03:42:25 AM

Because I'm a human male. My sex-drive was never directed "exclusively" towards my wife. I mean, there was no point when I wasn't aroused by other women. But I guess it's sort of like having your favorite meal everyday. It could be a full course dinner prepared by michelin starred chef, but after a certain point, a slice from Papa John's is going to sound really appealing.

Sure there was.  Ok, maybe it wasn't purely sexual but there was presumably a time, however brief, when you would have knocked back sexual offers from other women owing to being so keen on the one you eventually married.

Between then and now there has been a shift.  So it's either the case that this sort of thing just inevitably comes to pass, which seems more than possible as wives grow old with you and young women retain their flower of youth, or something in the relationship soured or became hum-drum or such, and said shift found itself precipitated.

Honestly, I envy men who are devoted to their wives.  I found it impossible.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Never1AShow on May 02, 2017, 05:17:14 AM
Does OP have a job where he is around women all day long?  That is where the trouble starts.  He's out in the world moving and staying vital and wifey is at  home bored and eating and getting fat.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Tapeworm on May 02, 2017, 05:40:18 AM
No one said she was fat.  I said old.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Man of Steel on May 02, 2017, 06:34:20 AM
You delusional weaklings and your "scripture".  ::)

You unaccountable suppressors of God and your "justifications".   ::)
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Never1AShow on May 02, 2017, 07:45:25 AM
No one said she was fat.  I said old.

Fat is the usual culprit and I was discussing OPs situation.  He said he was mid 30s so it isn't an age issue.  But if a wife lost her looks due to not taking care of herself it's the same thing unless we are talking so old that you're an old fart too with unrealistic expectations.  How old we talking?  Big diff between 50 and 70
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: johnnynoname on May 02, 2017, 08:00:18 AM
lol at those people who got married and thought that it was gonna (smh) last



are people that fucking stupid


.....seriously---how dumb are these people?

I mean---I kind get it if you're from the Midwest or Amish or some shit like that.....but if you live any where that is even close to a metropolitan area I just don't get how you can seriously buy into the fallacy into "death do us part"


the only life long relationship any man has is with his mother.....and that's coming from someone who isn't a "momma's boy"....however I do love my mom
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: johnnynoname on May 02, 2017, 08:03:03 AM
just remember:

we (men) were made to:
 go around
find a thing to put our dicks inside
make a baby,
then move onto the next fertile thing to make another baby
repeat

we weren't made to stick around and raise kids or stay married....that's all Quaker bullshit that we've bought into
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Grape Ape on May 02, 2017, 08:12:36 AM
lol at those people who got married and thought that it was gonna (smh) last



are people that fucking stupid


.....seriously---how dumb are these people?

I mean---I kind get it if you're from the Midwest or Amish or some shit like that.....but if you live any where that is even close to a metropolitan area I just don't get how you can seriously buy into the fallacy into "death do us part"


the only life long relationship any man has is with his mother.....and that's coming from someone who isn't a "momma's boy"....however I do love my mom

How long is your current laid-less drought?
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: johnnynoname on May 02, 2017, 08:14:58 AM
August 28th 2010


btw---in a TOTALLY unrelated subject--I someday want to ask Pete Rose if he misses hitting baseballs since he retired
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Grape Ape on May 02, 2017, 08:23:28 AM
August 28th 2010


btw---in a TOTALLY unrelated subject--I someday want to ask Pete Rose if he misses hitting baseballs since he retired

I've always thought your abandonment of baseball was the root cause of some of your issues.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on May 02, 2017, 09:10:21 AM
You unaccountable suppressors of God and your "justifications".   ::)

 ;D
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: johnnynoname on May 02, 2017, 09:12:45 AM
I've always thought your abandonment of baseball was the root cause of some of your issues.

honestly---it was abandonment of other things that most likely caused most of my root issues


"dad stuff" makes up the rest of the issues but I really, REALLY had a great mother who made up for that void
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Grape Ape on May 02, 2017, 09:19:28 AM
honestly---it was abandonment of other things that most likely caused most of my root issues


"dad stuff" makes up the rest of the issues but I really, REALLY had a great mother who made up for that void

So join a men's league and start playing baseball again.

I can answer your Pete Rose question for him - it's "Yes".
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: johnnynoname on May 02, 2017, 10:45:29 AM
So join a men's league and start playing baseball again.

I can answer your Pete Rose question for him - it's "Yes".

nah---lol...it aint happeining....I sincerely can't stand being around people and really do enjoy my time by myself

plus--baseball is so fucking boring haha
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on May 02, 2017, 10:52:07 AM
just remember:

we (men) were made to:
 go around
find a thing to put our dicks inside
make a baby,
then move onto the next fertile thing to make another baby
repeat

we weren't made to stick around and raise kids or stay married....that's all Quaker bullshit that we've bought into

Aren't you homo though?  how do you make babies depositing your sperm into another man's anus?
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: johnnynoname on May 02, 2017, 11:04:35 AM
me posting on this forum today is proof that I'm not a gay person

here's why---- years ago when I was still handsome enough I could have made a fucking killing doing gay porn or gay escorting......so this would have led to two possible outcomes:

1- dead from some sort of really bad gay vinearl disese from all the dick I was sucking/putting in my ass and the afterlife is a great place to play ping pong wiith jimmy hendrix and abraham lincoln but they have no internet there
2- too rich from man-sex to even be posting on such a prolateriat forum such as this
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: johnnynoname on May 02, 2017, 11:08:27 AM
heterosexuality is keeping me alive, brother
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on May 02, 2017, 09:38:25 PM
Sure there was.  Ok, maybe it wasn't purely sexual but there was presumably a time, however brief, when you would have knocked back sexual offers from other women owing to being so keen on the one you eventually married.

Between then and now there has been a shift.  So it's either the case that this sort of thing just inevitably comes to pass, which seems more than possible as wives grow old with you and young women retain their flower of youth, or something in the relationship soured or became hum-drum or such, and said shift found itself precipitated.

Honestly, I envy men who are devoted to their wives.  I found it impossible.


To me there's a difference between "no problem being faithful" and  "only being sexually attracted to my wife". In this particular situation, I don't think it's a matter of semantics.


Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on May 02, 2017, 09:41:41 PM
Fat is the usual culprit and I was discussing OPs situation.  He said he was mid 30s so it isn't an age issue.  But if a wife lost her looks due to not taking care of herself it's the same thing unless we are talking so old that you're an old fart too with unrealistic expectations.  How old we talking?  Big diff between 50 and 70


Haha, sorry I haven't been reading your posts. Your earlier posts in this thread were childish enough that I was just skipping over everything else you posted. Wife is 31. Gave birth at the end of January to our second child. Still an incredibly beautiful woman. Like I said in my reply, you can just take something for granted over time.I've said it over and over again, I haven't fallen out of love with her, I haven't even fallen out of attraction with her. I've yet to meet a woman of whom I've thought "I'd rather be spending my life with her rather than my wife."  I'm not one foot out the door. I'm not even halfway inside some sideline ho's pussy.


Yesterday, I re-read Thong Maniac's post and, for whatever reason,  it made me realize something about myself: even though I considered myself a serial monogamist before getting married, I have never been in a relationship this long. I never consciously split with a girl just to start sleeping around and there were times when I was on the receiving end, so now that I look back, that definitely played apart in me not ever wanting to stray. Even when I was in my early 20s, bedding a lot of chicks wasn't something I aspired to do or admired. And I'm pretty decent in the looks department and am an affable guy, so it wasn't a thing where I was bad with women. Even now- I've considered how I'd react if my wife just decided "Okay, I get you. Let's keep our relationship basically the same but let's take monogamy on your part out of the equation." I don't think I'd just go hog wild. I don't think I'd even want to have a steady affair.  Ideally, my goal is to not have an affair and ultimately just be better at denying temptation.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: HockeyFightFan on May 02, 2017, 09:44:34 PM
Can someone please give me cliff notes for the last few pages I missed while I was out banging Howard's wife?
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Never1AShow on May 02, 2017, 10:04:05 PM

Haha, sorry I haven't been reading your posts. Your earlier posts in this thread were childish enough that I was just skipping over everything else you posted. Wife is 31. Gave birth at the end of January to our second child. Still an incredibly beautiful woman. Like I said in my reply, you can just take something for granted over time.I've said it over and over again, I haven't fallen out of love with her, I haven't even fallen out of attraction with her. I've yet to meet a woman of whom I've thought "I'd rather be spending my life with her rather than my wife."  I'm not one foot out the door. I'm not even halfway inside some sideline ho's pussy.


Yesterday, I re-read Thong Maniac's post and, for whatever reason,  it made me realize something about myself: even though I considered myself a serial monogamist before getting married, I have never been in a relationship this long. I never consciously split with a girl just to start sleeping around and there were times when I was on the receiving end, so now that I look back, that definitely played apart in me not ever wanting to stray. Even when I was in my early 20s, bedding a lot of chicks wasn't something I aspired to do or admired. And I'm pretty decent in the looks department and am an affable guy, so it wasn't a thing where I was bad with women. Even now- I've considered how I'd react if my wife just decided "Okay, I get you. Let's keep our relationship basically the same but let's take monogamy on your part out of the equation." I don't think I'd just go hog wild. I don't think I'd even want to have a steady affair.  Ideally, my goal is to not have an affair and ultimately just be better at denying temptation.

Young enough wife, just had second kid, and you're here trying to justify cheating?  I know all I need to at this point.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on May 02, 2017, 10:16:54 PM
Young enough wife, just had second kid, and you're here trying to justify cheating?  I know all I need to at this point.

That's great?  ???  Because I was waiting for you to render a judgement?  ???
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 03, 2017, 04:10:12 AM
If she divorces you - say goodbye to everything, sleeping on your mom's couch or in your buddy's garage, your kids hating you, etc.   All for a hook up?


Go take a cold shower and stick your head in a bucket of ice.  Smarten up.   
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Mr Anabolic on May 03, 2017, 04:25:06 AM
If she divorces you - say goodbye to everything, sleeping on your mom's couch or in your buddy's garage, your kids hating you, etc.   All for a hook up?

Go take a cold shower and stick your head in a bucket of ice.  Smarten up.   

Unfortunately, most men don't believe any of this stuff until it happens to them.  Social programming and herd mentality has them by the balls.  Critical thinkers are very far and few between.   

Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 03, 2017, 05:27:25 AM
Unfortunately, most men don't believe any of this stuff until it happens to them.  Social programming and herd mentality has them by the balls.  Critical thinkers are very far and few between.   



Child support for 2 kids will pillage his paycheck, cheating on your spouse for a hook up while once has a newborn at home is probably the biggest dirtbag thing a guy can do and it will be hard to maintain friendships and any respect whatsoever after that.  Additionally, his kids will hate him for what they did to their mom and his excuses will seem like pure crap compared to the pain he caused. 

And again - for what - a hook up? 

Ridiculous. 
 
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Never1AShow on May 03, 2017, 06:02:01 AM
That's great?  ???  Because I was waiting for you to render a judgement?  ???

That seeking approval for your vile actions is the entire reason for your post.  You want someone to say it is okay.  It ain't.  It's a super dirtbag move.  You have heard from many.  You'll end up broke and with kids who hate you.  If you aren't a sociopath then you'll eventually hate yourself.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Never1AShow on May 03, 2017, 07:37:00 AM
I have succeeded in drawing Howard into this thread!  OMG
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 03, 2017, 07:43:13 AM
I've refrained from comment to respect  Al's request , despite reading/skimming the thread.
Now, due to my respect for him as fellow man, I must respond.

Plenty of married men and woman "cheat" and have sexual affairs outside of marriage.
Al is no different then a lot of other guys in similar situations.

The "holier then thou" moral crusaders make me roll my eyes  ::)
This is the same "get big"  that posted  shopped pics of TBombz and WYHI threads.

Regardless of your view on "cheating", give Al some credit for being honest and candid.
Obviously, he knows the risks and has some guilt and hesitations to "hook up".
Like it or not here's my objective 2 cents on this issue:

1. Hey Al ,don't feel guilty for these feelings and urges. It's normal and even expected in most men ( and some woman).

2. In my OPINION, having a quick affair won't fix things. I suspect, the real issue goes much deeper.
Maybe, just maybe, you're bored with the marriage and want a new life?
Only you can know that BUT you need to be honest with yourself.

3. If you opt out and decide to get divorced, don't call her names, or try to "over explain" it to your kids.
Be honest , take your kids aside and assure them , it's not their fault and they need to  love their mom.
It will be sad and pull on your heart strings in the short term. I never had kids, so I never had to deal with this, BUT you will.
If it's right, you'll thank GOD you had the courage to leave in the long run.
Remember, you can still be a good father, after a divorce.

I'm blessed to have a wonderful woman now as my wife. It wasn't easy getting here, but I'm glad I didn't stay stuck
with one that wasn't right. NOBODY is fulfilled when you endure life as a walking emotional zombie.

4. Ok, so maybe you really like married life, and simply need to spice it up.
If that's the case, then do what you gotta do.
Prepare, plan ahead, be organized and do your best to keep it separate from your home life.
It's YOUR life , so do what you need and only do what you can live with .

All the best to you, regardless of what you decide,

Howard



You voted for Hillary clinton - no one cares about your advice. 
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: drmarkp on May 03, 2017, 08:04:24 AM
.. If you value your current relationship, then the best way to handle temptation is to avoid getting into situations that might prompt it in the first place ... A stiff dick has no conscious so when that beaver is staring you right in the face - a boys gonna do what he's gonna do ... It just has a power over you unlike any other ... Otherwise, just pray you don't get crossed up and have a weak moment; your conscience will suffer for it afterward
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: HockeyFightFan on May 03, 2017, 08:46:13 AM
This thread proves Al Doggity loves the cock

Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Man of Steel on May 03, 2017, 09:02:13 AM
I've refrained from comment to respect  Al's request , despite reading/skimming the thread.
Now, due to my respect for him as fellow man, I must respond.

Plenty of married men and woman "cheat" and have sexual affairs outside of marriage.
Al is no different then a lot of other guys in similar situations.

The "holier then thou" moral crusaders make me roll my eyes  ::)
This is the same "get big"  that posted  shopped pics of TBombz and WYHI threads.

Regardless of your view on "cheating", give Al some credit for being honest and candid.
Obviously, he knows the risks and has some guilt and hesitations to "hook up".
Like it or not here's my objective 2 cents on this issue:

1. Hey Al ,don't feel guilty for these feelings and urges. It's normal and even expected in most men ( and some woman).

2. In my OPINION, having a quick affair won't fix things. I suspect, the real issue goes much deeper.
Maybe, just maybe, you're bored with the marriage and want a new life?
Only you can know that BUT you need to be honest with yourself.

3. If you opt out and decide to get divorced, don't call her names, or try to "over explain" it to your kids.
Be honest , take your kids aside and assure them , it's not their fault and they need to  love their mom.
It will be sad and pull on your heart strings in the short term. I never had kids, so I never had to deal with this, BUT you will.
If it's right, you'll thank GOD you had the courage to leave in the long run.
Remember, you can still be a good father, after a divorce.

I'm blessed to have a wonderful woman now as my wife. It wasn't easy getting here, but I'm glad I didn't stay stuck
with one that wasn't right. NOBODY is fulfilled when you endure life as a walking emotional zombie.

4. Ok, so maybe you really like married life, and simply need to spice it up.
If that's the case, then do what you gotta do.
Prepare, plan ahead, be organized and do your best to keep it separate from your home life.
It's YOUR life , so do what you need and only do what you can live with .

All the best to you, regardless of what you decide,

Howard



So Howard, I'm one of the (if not chief) moral crusader that elicits eye rolls.  So be it.

I like you Howard, but instead of a simple dismissal of my words like so many others do (via jokes, memes or insults) how about you tell me why you and other men are unable to muster the strength to not cheat yet infer or directly call me weak when I'm fully able to?

Further I'm not seeking an analysis of why MOS can.  I'm seeking someone with backbone to fully defend why they can't.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: polychronopolous on May 03, 2017, 09:04:22 AM
I just couldn't imagine to see the hurt in her eyes.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on May 03, 2017, 09:13:57 AM
That seeking approval for your vile actions is the entire reason for your post.  You want someone to say it is okay.  It ain't.  It's a super dirtbag move.  You have heard from many.  You'll end up broke and with kids who hate you.  If you aren't a sociopath then you'll eventually hate yourself.


No, it isn't.  ::) I've been very clear all throughout this thread about my reasons for starting this thread. If you choose not to believe them, fine, but if you insist of filling in the gaps with your own backstory, then just exercise a little common sense. Who comes to a message board to make major life decisions about their marriage? Who has ever sought "approval" when considering having an affair? Do you really think anyone on earth would have said "Most people on getbig are fine with affairs, so I guess I'll have one"? Most of your responses in this thread have been conjured up from your own imagination. Have nothing to do with me or my situation or what I posted in this thread.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on May 03, 2017, 09:15:20 AM
I've refrained from comment to respect  Al's request , despite reading/skimming the thread.
Now, due to my respect for him as fellow man, I must respond.

Plenty of married men and woman "cheat" and have sexual affairs outside of marriage.
Al is no different then a lot of other guys in similar situations.



One minor detail is that I haven't actually cheated on my wife.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Ronnie Rep on May 03, 2017, 09:20:00 AM

One minor detail is that I haven't actually cheated on my wife.
Better think long and hard on it. ;D
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on May 03, 2017, 09:24:47 AM
So Howard, I'm one of the (if not chief) moral crusader that elicits eye rolls.  So be it.

I like you Howard, but instead of a simple dismissal of my words like so many others do (via jokes, memes or insults) how about you tell me why you and other men are unable to muster the strength to not cheat yet infer or directly call me weak when I'm fully able to?

Further I'm not seeking an analysis of why MOS can.  I'm seeking someone with backbone to fully defend why they can't.


He can speak for himself, but I'll respond to this as it relates to me. I didn't get from his post that he was calling you weak (maybe he's done so in the past), what I got from it was more a dismissal of the idea that no one is tempted within their marriage and affairs are these rare things that only the truly monstrous engage in as opposed infidelity LITERALLY being the most common reason marriages fall apart. A lot of the outrage on that particular note goes over my head because you just have to take a casual glance around to see that marriage, partner's feeling and childrens' feelings aren't these sacrosanct things that are the only things people consider when deciding how they go about their lives.  I didn't respond to or criticize any of your posts (with the exception of 1) because the "just believe in Jesus" message isn't something that would be helpful to me, but objectively I don't think there's anything wrong with it if it helps you maintain a solid relationship with your wife.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on May 03, 2017, 09:33:04 AM
Better think long and hard on it. ;D


Hence the thread. Honestly, if you go throughout this thread, it's clear that I'm not inclined to actually cheat on my wife and that I'm the type of guy who lives in his head when it comes to trying to work through issues. That being said, everything I posted in this thread is honest. I engaged with anyone who had reasonable, thoughtful input in this thread are there were a lot of really thoughtful, interesting  posts. They weren't all relevant to me though.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Man of Steel on May 03, 2017, 09:49:38 AM
He can speak for himself, but I'll respond to this as it relates to me. I didn't get from his post that he was calling you weak (maybe he's done so in the past), what I got from it was more a dismissal of the idea that no one is tempted within their marriage and affairs are these rare things that only the truly monstrous engage in as opposed infidelity LITERALLY being the most common reason marriages fall apart. A lot of the outrage on that particular note goes over my head because you just have to take a casual glance around to see that marriage, partner's feeling and childrens' feelings aren't these sacrosanct things that are the only things people consider when deciding how they go about their lives.  I didn't respond to or criticize any of your posts (with the exception of 1) because the "just believe in Jesus" message isn't something that would be helpful to me, but objectively I don't think there's anything wrong with it if it helps you maintain a solid relationship with your wife.

I'm not specifically calling out or accusing Howard of anything...his post was just the platform for a general call out because I like Howard and there aren't hard feelings between us.

I read your reply and I understand it.

So what's the answer to my question about the inability to cheat?
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Grape Ape on May 03, 2017, 10:11:51 AM


I don't have kids,


Now, for me, I never wanted kids BUT know the gravity of that responsibility.


Every time you post this you should automatically be suspended for a week.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Ronnie Rep on May 03, 2017, 10:20:33 AM

Hence the thread. Honestly, if you go throughout this thread, it's clear that I'm not inclined to actually cheat on my wife and that I'm the type of guy who lives in his head when it comes to trying to work through issues. That being said, everything I posted in this thread is honest. I engaged with anyone who had reasonable, thoughtful input in this thread are there were a lot of really thoughtful, interesting  posts. They weren't all relevant to me though.
Honestly I empathize with everything you are saying. I have been married for 23 years, with teen aged daughters. I have been through a world of shit with her. It ain't easy, and neither of us are perfect. You just better know who you are, and who she is before you do anything. I hope you have a strong marriage.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Grape Ape on May 03, 2017, 11:21:19 AM
LOL, good one  ;D

Obviously, this won't apply to everyone who has kids, but here goes:

I was visiting an old friend I grew up and played sports with gr 4-12.
He has 2 kids , both in HS at the time.

I was telling him some crap about my married life and then said ;
" Ya know, we married guys are all in the same boat."

He shoots me this shocked look and says ;
" No bro, you're the only one I know in the boat with no kids.
Kids just suck the life out of ya"

I look at him puzzled , so he smiles, chuckles and just nods his head.

I know people love their kids, but, most seem very stressed from raising them. ???

You've posted this story or something of this context over 50 times already.

This issue isn't your views, it's that you've expressed the same thing too many times to remember at this point.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Grape Ape on May 03, 2017, 11:30:15 AM
How about cutting some slack for the retarded , ok ;)

Slack was cut for the 100s of times nothing was said.

It's beyond ridiculous at this point.

There are likely 95 posters who now have "Howard's" views of children as part of their DNA.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Grape Ape on May 03, 2017, 11:37:42 AM
I agree, I got carried away and need to STFU.
 I just deleted my lengthy posts and simply wish Al well.


Wuss
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on May 03, 2017, 11:40:59 AM
I'm not specifically calling out or accusing Howard of anything...his post was just the platform for a general call out because I like Howard and there aren't hard feelings between us.

I read your reply and I understand it.

So what's the answer to my question about the inability to cheat?


I'm not sure how to respond to this. I didn't criticize you for being faithful. If you're implying that you attribute the strength of your marriage to your faith, all I can say is that there are plenty of people who consider themselves religious who cheat on their spouses or get divorces. So if that's your point, I disagree with it. Pulling it back a bit, you're asking for someone to defend their personal choices about how they live their life. It's something that is not only unnecessary, but impossible, since it's an objective matter between people who likely have a different set of standards.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Grape Ape on May 03, 2017, 11:55:35 AM
No, I can be fair and objective on most things, even myself LOL.

Ok, in summary, maybe the whole idea of lifetime monogamy and being totally content
with just the same wife, is a myth ( for most men?)

Who cares?

Plenty do it, plenty don't.

Go outside and run.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Man of Steel on May 03, 2017, 12:08:57 PM

I'm not sure how to respond to this. I didn't criticize you for being faithful. If you're implying that you attribute the strength of your marriage to your faith, all I can say is that there are plenty of people who consider themselves religious who cheat on their spouses or get divorces. So if that's your point, I disagree with it. Pulling it back a bit, you're asking for someone to defend their personal choices about how they live their life. It's something that is not only unnecessary, but impossible, since it's an objective matter between people who likely have a different set of standards.

Not accusing you of anything....again my question is for anyone that can answer.

I put forth a simple question:  Explain why men (and women) have to cheat?   And I asked that the justification not be an analysis of why MOS doesn't cheat (a smokescreen, red herring type response), but why the individual responding is unable to personally not cheat.

Also not interested in memes, insults or joking mockery as responses (not suggesting you're doing that either).
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: johnnynoname on May 03, 2017, 12:14:33 PM
serious question to OP

please answer honestly---when you got married, did you think it was gonna last?


please answer honestly...I just need to know
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: bigmc on May 03, 2017, 12:16:40 PM
Not accusing you of anything....again my question is for anyone that can answer.

I put forth a simple question:  Explain why men (and women) have to cheat?   And I asked that the justification not be an analysis of why MOS doesn't cheat (a smokescreen, red herring type response), but why the individual responding is unable to personally not cheat.

Also not interested in memes, insults or joking mockery as responses (not suggesting you're doing that either).

religion has nothing to do with cheating

plenty of god squad throwing the sausage about

it comes down to personal standards

strong men dont need to cheat

and strong men dont need religion
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Man of Steel on May 03, 2017, 12:21:01 PM
religion has nothing to do with cheating

plenty of god squad throwing the sausage about

it comes down to personal standards

strong men dont need to cheat

and strong men dont need religion

Not concerned about who's cheating, how many are cheating, religion and cheating, strength and cheating....I know all that.

I want to know why some feel men and women have the inability to not cheat and not to provide justifications by projecting onto or analyzing MOS.  Instead answering from the personal perspective and opinion of the one responding and why that person is unable to not cheat.

And again not interested in memes, insults or joking mockery as responses.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: bigmc on May 03, 2017, 12:22:41 PM
Not concerned about who's cheating, how many are cheating, religion and cheating, strength and cheating. 

I want to know why some feel men and women have the inability to not cheat and not to provide justifications by projecting or analyzing MOS.  Instead answering from the personal perspective and opinion of the one responding.

people tend to cheat to feed insecurity

or in some cases unhappiness

happy secure people dont cheat imo
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Man of Steel on May 03, 2017, 12:24:09 PM
people tend to cheat to feed insecurity

or in some cases unhappiness

happy secure people dont cheat imo

This is a genuine, honest response....thank you.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: nzmusclemonster on May 03, 2017, 12:42:52 PM
Not concerned about who's cheating, how many are cheating, religion and cheating, strength and cheating....I know all that.

I want to know why some feel men and women have the inability to not cheat and not to provide justifications by projecting onto or analyzing MOS.  Instead answering from the personal perspective and opinion of the one responding and why that person is unable to not cheat.

And again not interested in memes, insults or joking mockery as responses.

In your opinion, whats worse -

Someone cheating on thieir wife/husband.
A priest fucking a young boy.

Both happen with the same frequency.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Man of Steel on May 03, 2017, 12:44:38 PM
In your opinion, whats worse -

Someone cheating on thieir wife/husband.
A priest fucking a young boy.

Both happen with the same frequency.

I can't speak to the frequency claim, but a priest molesting a young boy would be worse in my opinion.  

Yet an adulterous relationship can tear apart a family and hurt children in the process.  

I would say the direct choice to hurt a child instead of an indirect choice that may hurt a child is worse.

I also think rape is worse than theft, but don't believe that theft being a lesser crime justifies engaging in it.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: nzmusclemonster on May 03, 2017, 01:13:51 PM
I can't speak to the frequency claim, but a priest molesting a young boy would be worse in my opinion.  

Yet an adulterous relationship can tear apart a family and hurt children in the process.  

I would say the direct choice to hurt a child instead of an indirect choice that may hurt a child is worse.

I also think rape is worse than theft, but don't believe that theft being a lesser crime justifies engaging in it.

I just find it amusing that you try and impart your moral teachings upon us, yet the people that preach these things to you are the most despicable people on the planet.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Man of Steel on May 03, 2017, 01:20:58 PM
I just find it amusing that you try and impart your moral teachings upon us, yet the people that preach these things to you are the most despicable people on the planet.

The moral teachings are not mine, they are Jesus Christ's....I am merely parroting his word and teachings (since his standard is superior to all other standards) while attempting to live it out.  Still, I'm fairly certain you don't regard him as one of the most despicable people on earth....perhaps I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Slapper on May 03, 2017, 07:12:42 PM
Love it how some here claim that having sex with the same person is unnatural yet... they've been fucking the shit out of their hand a lot longer and more frequently.

If having sex with the same person is boring to you, 1) do not get married, 2) do not have kids and 3) you have commitment issues.

Grow up.

 
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Never1AShow on May 03, 2017, 08:19:50 PM
What's MOS?  Most Old Suckers?
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Tapeworm on May 04, 2017, 07:02:23 AM
Love it how some here claim that having sex with the same person is unnatural yet... they've been fucking the shit out of their hand a lot longer and more frequently.

If having sex with the same person is boring to you, 1) do not get married, 2) do not have kids and 3) you have commitment issues.

Grow up.

 

There's nothing quite as adult as exorcising romantic illusions and coming to terms with the world as it is.  

If you have what works for you that's great.  Al can't say the same and he's working his way through it.  He shouldn't get bashed for it.  We're basically a men's issues board.  Getting offered vag while in a relationship is a common issue, especially in one's 30s when marriages are getting stale.
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Al Doggity on May 04, 2017, 11:55:06 AM
Also, I gotta add that the  having sex with the same person/hand comparison is , of course, specious. There is a difference between a long term relationship and long term monogamy. No one is pursuing  a monogamous relationship with their hand... except maybe all those 15 year olds who are cheating on their wives?  ???
Title: Re: Cheating
Post by: Ronnie Rep on May 10, 2017, 06:01:12 PM
people tend to cheat to feed insecurity

or in some cases unhappiness

happy secure people dont cheat imo
That is a broad statement, and not necessarily true. Situations arise especially in long term marriages/relationships, that create stress and leave one or both people unfulfilled. Which opens the door for cheating.