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Right from his own posting a few months back on facebook.
1500 mg/wk of Testosterone
50 mg/day of Winstrol V
5iu/day of GH
5iu/day Insulin
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James Lewylllyn discuses his stack he used to turn pro
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I can believe phil on this. he still looks quite jacked while old and on trt (plus he's getting treated for cancer).
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James Lewylllyn discuses his stack he used to turn pro
Filth
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I can believe phil on this. he still looks quite jacked while old and on trt (plus he's getting treated for cancer).
what kind of cancer does he have?
As crazy as he turned out I did idolize him on the 90s. I haven't seen him post much on fb in the last few weeks, I guess his recent health issue is the main reason.
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what kind of cancer does he have?
As crazy as he turned out I did idolize him on the 90s. I haven't seen him post much on fb in the last few weeks, I guess his recent health issue is the main reason.
I believe someone on here said prostate... :-[
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yet in his next show he brags about a judge telling him he got marked down for being "the poster-boy for steroid abuse". not to mention he was a steroid dealer and had access to everything he wanted. he expects people to believe he didn't even use a whole bottle of test a week? lol phil's an idiot who thinks people are dumb enough to believe everything he says at face value just like his little peptide scam and LBA's
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what kind of cancer does he have?
As crazy as he turned out I did idolize him on the 90s. I haven't seen him post much on fb in the last few weeks, I guess his recent health issue is the main reason.
Phil was battling aggresive prostate cancer. Has just finished 40 sessions of radiation. He is a strong man mentally. He kept high spirits and trained through it. Kept to a great wellness program as he always has for the many recent years. Kept a bodyweight of 198-204 lbs throughout treatment. Videos of Phil as he looked throughout treatment on his facebook. He is a genetic freak...made for bodybuilding. He looks fantastic at 51 years old. Looks very healthy at the moment post cancer therapy. Check out his facebook. Great stuff on it. Phil is a good guy.
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yet in his next show he brags about a judge telling him he got marked down for being "the poster-boy for steroid abuse". not to mention he was a steroid dealer and had access to everything he wanted. he expects people to believe he didn't even use a whole bottle of test a week? lol phil's an idiot who thinks people are dumb enough to believe everything he says at face value just like his little peptide scam and LBA's
I used to work in a wholesale butchers, I had access to kilos and kilos of meat every week, I only ate a couple of steaks...
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yet in his next show he brags about a judge telling him he got marked down for being "the poster-boy for steroid abuse". not to mention he was a steroid dealer and had access to everything he wanted. he expects people to believe he didn't even use a whole bottle of test a week? lol phil's an idiot who thinks people are dumb enough to believe everything he says at face value just like his little peptide scam and LBA's
Nobody is saying that he didnt up the dose for the Night of Champions which you speak of. But I am posting his USA win cycle. Very believable cycle for a rare genetic freak. And yes...Phil IS a genetic marvel. Phil is a very good guy. Everybody makes mistakes in life. People should read his stuff and look beyond the rumors and gossip. Phil is very open about his past steroid selling, arrest and prison time. He is an open book. He talks about all of that on his video posts. People should watch them all before ranting out terrible shit about him.He is a very very good man.
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Nobody is saying that he didnt up the dose for the Night of Champions which you speak of. But I am posting his USA win cycle. Very believable cycle for a rare genetic freak. And yes...Phil IS a genetic marvel. Phil is a very good guy. Everybody makes mistakes in life. People should read his stuff and look beyond the rumors and gossip. Phil is very open about his past steroid selling, arrest and prison time. He is an open book. He talks about all of that on his video posts. People should watch them all before ranting out terrible shit about him.He is a very very good man.
most pros are genetic freaks...
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most pros are genetic freaks...
I agree....but Phil is in the upper bracket of genetic elite. Trust me on this.
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I agree....but Phil is in the upper bracket of genetic elite. Trust me on this.
with my life....
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View his August 11th facebook video. 202lbs immediately after finishing 40 sessions of heavy radiation for prostate cancer. Barely eating a meal a day due to feeling sick most of the time. And still doing his minimum daily brief but intense 1 set per bodypart training routine. He looks fucking incredible still at 51 while battling cancer. 99% of everybody on this site could never pull this off as Phil did. Tremendous inspiration he is.
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I dont know of any legit hormone provider that would prescribe trt to a patient with colon or prostate cancer
Let alone if you had it in the past
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with my life....
lol
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Most pros take (if true) waaaaaaaay more than they need too.
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James Lewylllyn discuses his stack he used to turn pro
Never heard of the bloke but his cycle is shit.
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Nobody is saying that he didnt up the dose for the Night of Champions which you speak of. But I am posting his USA win cycle. Very believable cycle for a rare genetic freak. And yes...Phil IS a genetic marvel. Phil is a very good guy. Everybody makes mistakes in life. People should read his stuff and look beyond the rumors and gossip. Phil is very open about his past steroid selling, arrest and prison time. He is an open book. He talks about all of that on his video posts. People should watch them all before ranting out terrible shit about him.He is a very very good man.
too bad i didn't take a screenshot of the msg he sent me implying he had Bert killed. Bert was the guy who Phil ratted on and who told people Phil was a rat. then Bert dies and Phil tries to take credit. lol. dudes a scammer whos own friends couldn't stand in the end.
mistakes are one thing. ripping people off is another.
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Nobody is saying that he didnt up the dose for the Night of Champions which you speak of. But I am posting his USA win cycle. Very believable cycle for a rare genetic freak. And yes...Phil IS a genetic marvel. Phil is a very good guy. Everybody makes mistakes in life. People should read his stuff and look beyond the rumors and gossip. Phil is very open about his past steroid selling, arrest and prison time. He is an open book. He talks about all of that on his video posts. People should watch them all before ranting out terrible shit about him.He is a very very good man.
alcoholics who own bars dont drink 2 beers a day.
bodybuilders who sell steroids dont use less than a bottle of test with 50mg winstrol a day, especially TRYING TO TURN PRO.
Craig Titus's supposed cycle for the USA's is more believable. speaking of steroid dealers using everything they can to TURN PRO.
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alcoholics who own bars dont drink 2 beers a day.
bodybuilders who sell steroids dont use less than a bottle of test with 50mg winstrol a day, especially TRYING TO TURN PRO.
Craig Titus's supposed cycle for the USA's is more believable. speaking of steroid dealers using everything they can to TURN PRO.
Honestly, who fucking cares. You know this is just going to start another multi page argument between you and bethere and another thread will be ruined by you 2
I was not there, you were not there, none of were there. we don't know what he took, why would he lie about a contest 22 years ago, the guy has already admitted other crazy dose stuff he has done
Like him or not hernon was and is a genetic freak. That probably was his cycle
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Honestly, who fucking cares. You know this is just going to start another multi page argument between you and bethere and another thread will be ruined by you 2
I was not there, you were not there, none of were there. we don't know what he took, why would he lie about a contest 22 years ago, the guy has already admitted other crazy dose stuff he has done
Like him or not hernon was and is a genetic freak. That probably was his cycle
why? because he's a sociopath.
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Most pros take (if true) waaaaaaaay more than they need too.
according to dim aka disgusted
Mentzer took 3 grams of deca per week :D :D :D
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alcoholics who own bars dont drink 2 beers a day.
bodybuilders who sell steroids dont use less than a bottle of test with 50mg winstrol a day, especially TRYING TO TURN PRO.
Craig Titus's supposed cycle for the USA's is more believable. speaking of steroid dealers using everything they can to TURN PRO.
On MuscleMayhem, Craig himself that if he were to use what he used to turn pro and get into that type of conditioning that he got into [in 1996] that he would be looking for an organ donor. It was refreshing to read an honest comment like that.
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James Lewylllyn lies about his stack he used to turn pro
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Fixed.
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Right from his own posting a few months back on facebook.
1500 mg/wk of Testosterone
50 mg/day of Winstrol V
5iu/day of GH
5iu/day Insulin
I'm pretty sure he once posted that the gh was 10iu. Then he said he didn't even know if all his gear was real.
Now, here's the most ridiculous part of his "stack": he says he ate NO protein apart from liquid hydrolyzed GELATIN, none at all. I call bullshit on that even more than the drugs.
Anyway, I wouldn't believe a word he says about anything, not just based on the stack but the way I've seen him behave on the net over the years. Seems like he is now permabanned on promuscle after almost a decade and a half there. Most of the mods hate him. Dante Doggcrapp even wrote a scathing roast of him about his crazy behavior if anyone wants to search for it there. Guy seems to be a sociopath or something.
Here's on Phil quote
In 1995 I was on 6 sten a week......400 deca a week......1200 test a week..........10 iu gh daily with slin..........20 weeks.
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On MuscleMayhem, Craig himself that if he were to use what he used to turn pro and get into that type of conditioning that he got into [in 1996] that he would be looking for an organ donor. It was refreshing to read an honest comment like that.
Which is why Craig ran 10gs of test when he got out of prison to make up for lost time? Craigs a sociopath as well (and I liked Craig and always got along with him but he's a predator and will tell anybody what they want to hear) and its a better look for a guy who's known to everybody as a drug abuser to make public statements like "oh im much more careful now with my supplement intake". Craig along with milos and kovacs are living (or dead) proof that steroids won't kill you.
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Which is why Craig ran 10gs of test when he got out of prison to make up for lost time? Craigs a sociopath as well (and I liked Craig and always got along with him but he's a predator and will tell anybody what they want to hear) and its a better look for a guy who's known to everybody as a drug abuser to make public statements like "oh im much more careful now with my supplement intake". Craig along with milos and kovacs are living (or dead) proof that steroids won't kill you.
What was Craig's real stack for turning pro?
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What was Craig's real stack for turning pro?
From Dante:
Have you ever seen anyone anywhere on any muscle message board outline a more abusive cycle that I outlined previously with higher dosages than the cycling that Craig Titus told me firsthand himself....that he was doing? What was that? 5500 test a week with 13 other drugs and probably equaling somewhere in the range of 12000 to 15000mg a week? along with gh insulin and nubain
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most pros are genetic freaks...
Most of the real genetic freaks went on to play baseball, football, basketball, f1 racing, etc
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From Dante:
Thanks.....what the hell that's worse than Bostin Lloyd!!
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Most bb:s are dudes that could not get their shit working in any sports. So they end up in this game at the end of the line where they feel some sort of belonging. Reality check...
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I know every single pro personally, well, just the ones who cant verify I dont know them.
In my world "six degrees of separation" doesn't exist, i know every single person in the world personally.
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according to dim aka disgusted
Mentzer took 3 grams of deca per week :D :D :D
I'm not doubting him, I'm just saying it's not necessary.
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I'm not doubting him, I'm just saying it's not necessary.
Stfu dwarf!!!!
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Stfu dwarf!!!!
PeDonald, you're quite a midget as well
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Stfu dwarf!!!!
Great, another shit talking gimmick. STFU, speak when you're spoken to and know your place....this isn't your place.
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Great, another shit talking gimmick. Speak when you're spoken to and know your place....this isn't your place.
It's Donald Smith from Celle
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It's Donald Smith from Celle
Who is that?
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I know every single pro personally, well, just the ones who cant verify I dont know them.
In my world "six degrees of separation" doesn't exist, i know every single person in the world personally.
ESPfitness regularly comes over to the house and take huge dab hits
Has a portal gun similar to Rick and Morty and has infinite access to any single one point in time
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Who is that?
Donny
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Great, another shit talking gimmick. STFU, speak when you're spoken to and know your place....this isn't your place.
Unreal . . . never read a more racial statement. Mods???
J
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Unreal . . . never read a more racial statement. Mods???
J
you too. stfu
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Donny
Explains a lot. Thanks
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according to dim aka disgusted
Mentzer took 3 grams of deca per week :D :D :D
Disgusted is kris dim?
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I'm not doubting him, I'm just saying it's not necessary.
That is correct certainly not in any way. I've said this before but it bears repeating. A pro I know who used to go to Mike's seminars back in the 90's told me he didn't like to talk about drugs. He would put you through a workout, there would be a handful of guys there. At the end he said some other guy would take over the cycle info. Not sure why but I'm guessing liability. So basically it was 1500mg each of your 2 fav drugs like deca and test you would go 6 weeks on 6 weeks off. Then your orals you would go say 100mg of dbol or drol 4 weeks on 4 weeks off.
Now this is the info the I was told from a guy who was there so take it for what it's worth. So I don't find it too hard to believe that Mike would do a say 300 mgs of deca daily. If Pete Gyrmkowski was admitting to doing grams daily I don't find this hard to believe.
FYI this obviously isn't directed to you Joe I know you're a little more on top of things than dj007. :)
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Disgusted is kris dim?
Hahahaha ;D This guy is out there but he humors me.
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Oh just FYI. The cycle that I repeated that was supposedly from Mike's seminar is NOT going to make everyone an instant pro. If it was me I would cut it into at least 3rd's and that's at an advanced level. OK not that I'm advance but you get what I'm saying. I hope. ???
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Disgusted is also not the only one who has said that about Mentzers deca useage. I believe it.
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That is correct certainly not in any way. I've said this before but it bears repeating. A pro I know who used to go to Mike's seminars back in the 90's told me he didn't like to talk about drugs. He would put you through a workout, there would be a handful of guys there. At the end he said some other guy would take over the cycle info. Not sure why but I'm guessing liability. So basically it was 1500mg each of your 2 fav drugs like deca and test you would go 6 weeks on 6 weeks off. Then your orals you would go say 100mg of dbol or drol 4 weeks on 4 weeks off.
Now this is the info the I was told from a guy who was there so take it for what it's worth. So I don't find it too hard to believe that Mike would do a say 300 mgs of deca daily. If Pete Gyrmkowski was admitting to doing grams daily I don't find this hard to believe.
FYI this obviously isn't directed to you Joe I know you're a little more on top of things than dj007. :)
I knew Mike Mentzer personally since 1990. Spent many afternooms chatting with Mike at Golds Venice in between his clients. Actually assisted Mike at 3 of his 1990 seminars held in upstate NY sponsored by Mike Torchia.Mike was ALWAYS honest and TALKATIVE about drug use at these seminars and to all his clients. He said he only ever used Dianabol, Deca Durabolin and Durabolin in his career and never tried anything else. And his doses were low. These internet troll stories and a friend who supposedly knew so and so are usually bullshit.
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I knew Mike Mentzer personally since 1990. Spent many afternooms chatting with Mike at Golds Venice in between his clients. Actually assisted Mike at 3 of his 1990 seminars held in upstate NY sponsored by Mike Torchia.Mike was ALWAYS honest and TALKATIVE about drug use at these seminars and to all his clients. He said he only ever used Dianabol, Deca Durabolin and Durabolin in his career and never tried anything else. And his doses were low. These internet troll stories and a friend who supposedly knew so and so are usually bullshit.
did he discuss his amphetamine addiction with you?
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I knew Mike Mentzer personally since 1990. Spent many afternooms chatting with Mike at Golds Venice in between his clients. Actually assisted Mike at 3 of his 1990 seminars held in upstate NY sponsored by Mike Torchia.Mike was ALWAYS honest and TALKATIVE about drug use at these seminars and to all his clients. He said he only ever used Dianabol, Deca Durabolin and Durabolin in his career and never tried anything else. And his doses were low. These internet troll stories and a friend who supposedly knew so and so are usually bullshit.
Define low dose. By the way my friend said if I am remembering correctly that some Mexican looking guy was the one who talked drugs. I'm pretty sure this was later 90's. He went to two of them. He said the first one was liked around 95 then 98? He also said Mike seemed to go down hill the next time he saw him. Said he was out of shape and limped a bit. I'm just may ask him again about this to get the story again from his lips.
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did he discuss his amphetamine addiction with you?
Yes...he actually did....a few times. Mike was a very open and honest man. Maybe to a fault.
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Define low dose.
25 mg Dianabol...400 mg Deca max. 200 mg Durabolin max. This was from Mikes own mouth.
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I knew Mike Mentzer personally since 1990. Spent many afternooms chatting with Mike at Golds Venice in between his clients. Actually assisted Mike at 3 of his 1990 seminars held in upstate NY sponsored by Mike Torchia.Mike was ALWAYS honest and TALKATIVE about drug use at these seminars and to all his clients. He said he only ever used Dianabol, Deca Durabolin and Durabolin in his career and never tried anything else. And his doses were low. These internet troll stories and a friend who supposedly knew so and so are usually bullshit.
agree with you here
but i DO NOT agree that you looked like this at 15 years old natty 😂😂😂
ill never get fair play here coz everyone hates my guts and they let thier emotions get in the way of objectivity
if i put this pic on a board where theres no emotional feelings bout me i guaren-fucking-tee guys would give me decent props
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25 mg Dianabol...400 mg Deca max. 200 mg Durabolin max. This was from Mikes own mouth.
Liar I mean him not you. Total bullshit. Also para winny and primo were very popular then so no way he never used them. Also 200 mgs of Durabolin how often? Can't be weekly would be a waste of time.
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everybody likes to say they "only used a little bit" to imply their genetics are superior... as if that's something to brag about lol. good job picking parents. very impressive. lol
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Mike was big on anadrol, said it was great for dieting as it killed your appetite along with ephedrine and kept you full when on low carbs.
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Liar I mean him not you. Total bullshit. Also para winny and primo were very popular then so no way he never used them. Also 200 mgs of Durabolin how often? Can't be weekly would be a waste of time.
heres dyke at 19 dim
he was a buck 95 there and on stage at the mr. america 77 he was a buck 99
so it is plasible chief
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agree with you here
but i DO NOT agree that you looked like this at 15 years old natty 😂😂😂
ill never get fair play here coz everyone hates my guts and they let thier emotions get in the way of objectivity
if i put this pic on a board where theres no emotional feelings bout me i guaren-fucking-tee guys would give me decent props
Not true. I don't think people hate you as much as they shake their head at some of your posts referencing your physique, drug use, eating and training.
everybody likes to say they "only used a little bit" to imply their genetics are superior... as if that's something to brag about lol. good job picking parents. very impressive. lol
With all due respect you never competed and the closest you got landed you in the hospital. I think it is safe to say that most of the people being discussed here DID HAVE superior genetics to most of us and most likely did not use the amounts that you, me or others would have to do just to compete
For example you can make fun of BeThere all you want but fact is he competes at a high level in the UK and has done so for a couple of decades. I am sure his ped use id more at a fair level as he has had the longevity alot of others don't have, but he does not have the genetic(nor desire) to take what he would have to to be a beast so he relies more on shape and proportion/ Taking more or less will not enhance his build, which leads me to beleive that the gtop guys mentioned in this thread probably did not use the same as everyone else, and lets face it in Mentzers day that stuff came from the real pharmacy legally and was more powerful and pure and was not the ineffective swill that people use for the most part today
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Not true. I don't think people hate you as much as they shake their head at some of your posts referencing your physique, drug use, eating and training.
With all due respect you never competed and the closest you got landed you in the hospital. I think it is safe to say that most of the people being discussed here DID HAVE superior genetics to most of us and most likely did not use the amounts that you, me or others would have to do just to compete
For example you can make fun of BeThere all you want but fact is he competes at a high level in the UK and has done so for a couple of decades. I am sure his ped use id more at a fair level as he has had the longevity alot of others don't have, but he does not have the genetic(nor desire) to take what he would have to to be a beast so he relies more on shape and proportion/ Taking more or less will not enhance his build, which leads me to beleive that the gtop guys mentioned in this thread probably did not use the same as everyone else, and lets face it in Mentzers day that stuff came from the real pharmacy legally and was more powerful and pure and was not the ineffective swill that people use for the most part today
That's the 2nd time you've mentioned Be There in a post directed towards me. I don't know if you're trying to instigate something or what but I really don't care what be there looks like or what he uses. This Thread is about Phil. Phil is a sociopath. He's a liar. A proven liar who's been kicked off of promuscle after being there since before I went to prison since before I left San Diego since before I left Los Angeles. Dude's a rat who will say anything to anybody if he thinks that's what they want to hear.
Phil's got great genetics.. All pros have great genetics
. blah blah blah... the feeling so proud to mention at any given opportunity that the following year the judges tell him he didn't Place well because he looks like a poster boy for anabolic steroid abuse, do you really think he increased his dosages that much for that contest over what he was previously using? When he already had access to everything he wanted? You think he's going to go up on stage for the USA is trying to get a pro card and he's going to Baby doses Way to the Top? you think you didn't know what Craig (another dealer) was using? Or what Craig and Paul were using for the nationals in 94? And he's just gonna use 350/wk Winstrol & 1500/wk test? GH was expensive then and a lot was faked (faked by craig himself even.. Later on at least. But guys like him and Phil don't turn into scamming scumbag overnight) and insulin wasn't as popular. And just because guys have great gwnetics doesn't mean they're gonna use as little as possible. These are bodybuilders. Have you ate or super heavyweight bodybuilders. Not physique competitors or underwear models. These are guys competing for a pro card in the Dorian era where size and conditioning mattered. When guys were pushing the envelope. A guy saying they only used 1 in and 1 oral for less than 2g/wk and expecting people to believe it is an insult to everybody's intelligence. He may as have said he only trained 2x a week for 6 weeks prior as well.
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That's the 2nd time you've mentioned Be There in a post directed towards me. I don't know if you're trying to instigate something or what but I really don't care what be there looks like or what he uses. This Thread is about Phil. Phil is a sociopath. He's a liar. A proven liar who's been kicked off of promuscle after being there since before I went to prison since before I left San Diego since before I left Los Angeles. Dude's a rat who will say anything to anybody if he thinks that's what they want to hear.
Phil's got great genetics.. All pros have great genetics
. blah blah blah... the feeling so proud to mention at any given opportunity that the following year the judges tell him he didn't Place well because he looks like a poster boy for anabolic steroid abuse, do you really think he increased his dosages that much for that contest over what he was previously using? When he already had access to everything he wanted? You think he's going to go up on stage for the USA is trying to get a pro card and he's going to Baby doses Way to the Top? you think you didn't know what Craig (another dealer) was using? Or what Craig and Paul were using for the nationals in 94? And he's just gonna use 350/wk Winstrol & 1500/wk test? GH was expensive then and a lot was faked (faked by craig himself even.. Later on at least. But guys like him and Phil don't turn into scamming scumbag overnight) and insulin wasn't as popular. And just because guys have great gwnetics doesn't mean they're gonna use as little as possible. These are bodybuilders. Have you ate or super heavyweight bodybuilders. Not physique competitors or underwear models. These are guys competing for a pro card in the Dorian era where size and conditioning mattered. When guys were pushing the envelope. A guy saying they only used 1 in and 1 oral for less than 2g/wk and expecting people to believe it is an insult to everybody's intelligence.
not trying to instigate anything, he pooped in my head first because he is in this thread and still competes
you get way too defensive sometimes, not every post disagreeing with you is a slight
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I knew Mike Mentzer personally since 1990. Spent many afternooms chatting with Mike at Golds Venice in between his clients. Actually assisted Mike at 3 of his 1990 seminars held in upstate NY sponsored by Mike Torchia.Mike was ALWAYS honest and TALKATIVE about drug use at these seminars and to all his clients. He said he only ever used Dianabol, Deca Durabolin and Durabolin in his career and never tried anything else. And his doses were low. These internet troll stories and a friend who supposedly knew so and so are usually bullshit.
Guessing Casey Viator knew him longer then you.....
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not trying to instigate anything, he pooped in my head first because he is in this thread and still competes
you get way too defensive sometimes, not every post disagreeing with you is a slight
Comparing be there and Phil doesn't work. Jeffery competes at 200lbs and ive never heard him say anything worthwhile concerning anabolics, dieting, or training. Ive gotten ready committed to shows only to end up in the ER for various things and I just wasn't ready. Had too much going on. Newborn or infant baby or infant baby and pregnant crazy woman at home and running training biz, pharmacy, and legit fundraising office at the same time.. Shit wasnt the right time. I have however trained others for shows.for instance Had 3 girls Last year either win or place top 3 in their first show ever (1 was top 3 and win. For 2 shows.) One of tbose girls also won her first ever powerlifting meet, and her 2nd and set state records. Her husband also took top3 (that doesn't mean 3rd, however, for any of them. But I'm not saying who they are. They re not all local). Another 2 guys top 5(again, doesn't mean 5th) in his first physique show. These were all either 2016 or early 2017. In addition to others in 2015, 2014, 2013, etc.... Ive had my hands full since. And not all (or any) were running "6g/wk". Some want to be cute and say " you claim to be a trainer but you provided no evidence blah blah blah" as if I'm going to jeopardize my fucking income to prove some nobody on a message board wrong lol.
Getting yourself in shape means little when it comes to getting others in shape. If you just expect to replicate your body's results in others, you're gonna fail. 8iu of GH may raise one guys blood sugar to 130 whereas 8iu in the guys brother may raise it to 170 or more and their insulin requirements may be different. Same brothers may have different levels of aromatase enzymes and different E2 levels at the same dose of testosterone or androgens in general. Same 2 brothers may respond differently to dextrose vs fructose or sucrose when carving up... And none of that has anything to do with gettimg yourself contest ready.
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Yes...he actually did....a few times. Mike was a very open and honest man. Maybe to a fault.
and I bet you a million dollars he lied about how much amphetamine he was taking...
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Comparing be there and Phil doesn't work. Jeffery competes at 200lbs and ive never heard him say anything worthwhile concerning anabolics, dieting, or training. Ive gotten ready committed to shows only to end up in the ER for various things and I just wasn't ready. Had too much going on. Newborn or infant baby or infant baby and pregnant crazy woman at home and running training biz, pharmacy, and legit fundraising office at the same time.. Shit wasnt the right time. I have however trained others for shows.for instance Had 3 girls Last year either win or place top 3 in their first show ever (1 was top 3 and win. For 2 shows.) One of tbose girls also won her first ever powerlifting meet, and her 2nd and set state records. Her husband also took top3 (that doesn't mean 3rd, however, for any of them. But I'm not saying who they are. They re not all local). Another 2 guys top 5(again, doesn't mean 5th) in his first physique show. These were all either 2016 or early 2017. In addition to others in 2015, 2014, 2013, etc.... Ive had my hands full since. And not all (or any) were running "6g/wk". Some want to be cute and say " you claim to be a trainer but you provided no evidence blah blah blah" as if I'm going to jeopardize my fucking income to prove some nobody on a message board wrong lol.
Getting yourself in shape means little when it comes to getting others in shape. If you just expect to replicate your body's results in others, you're gonna fail. 8iu of GH may raise one guys blood sugar to 130 whereas 8iu in the guys brother may raise it to 170 or more and their insulin requirements may be different. Same brothers may have different levels of aromatase enzymes and different E2 levels at the same dose of testosterone or androgens in general. Same 2 brothers may respond differently to dextrose vs fructose or sucrose when carving up... And none of that has anything to do with gettimg yourself contest ready.
bullshit
You are a PT, you can post up their info if you like, they are your clients, all PTs post pics of clients they train as part of advertising their business.
Really mate, cut this fucking bullshit
Oh.. and you simply dont have an onstage build, you have no legs at all, decent back in some angled shots, flat and fat back in others, from the front you are no where near competitive.
And yes, Im a 200lb bodybuilder, and you are a 185lb bodybuilder if you got show ready.
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did he discuss his amphetamine addiction with you?
Exactly, they always claim these ridiculous low dosages. This is a guy who was using methamphetamine and were supposed to believe he used beginner dosages? Just as ridiculous as shawn claiming he never used gh. Who do they think they're kidding?
Do they really believe being truthful is going to somehow tarnish their "legacy?" Their's no cheating in bodybuilding, it's not a sport.
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bullshit
You are a PT, you can post up their info if you like, they are your clients, all PTs post pics of clients they train as part of advertising their business.
Really mate, cut this fucking bullshit
Oh.. and you simply dont have an onstage build, you have no legs at all, decent back in some angled shots, flat and fat back in others, from the front you are no where near competitive.
And yes, Im a 200lb bodybuilder, and you are a 185lb bodybuilder if you got show ready.
you and ES in the old west lol
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Most of the real genetic freaks went on to play baseball, football, basketball, f1 racing, etc
No shit. The only freak thing about pro bb in my estimation is the constitution of their kidneys and liver.
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My other observation is that if most lift heavy for a good period of time they will gain quite a bit of size - natty. Maintaining that mass when 10% bf is another story. That's where the gear kicks in as well as for recovery. When I diet I lose as much muscle as fat. Just the way it is as a natty.
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My other observation is that if most lift heavy for a good period of time they will gain quite a bit of size - natty. Maintaining that mass when 10% bf is another story. That's where the gear kicks in as well as for recovery. When I diet I lose as much muscle as fat. Just the way it is as a natty.
I think you just underestimate how much muscle you have when bulked.
I have lost count of the number of people who think they are about 10lb over stage weight when they are in fact almost 40lb over
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Guessing Casey Viator knew him longer then you.....
how do you explain only a 15 pound bw diff btw 19 and when he hit his max size which was 210 @ the 79 O
15 pounds is OK but nothing extordinary over the course of 10 years
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bullshit
You are a PT, you can post up their info if you like, they are your clients, all PTs post pics of clients they train as part of advertising their business.
Really mate, cut this fucking bullshit
Oh.. and you simply dont have an onstage build, you have no legs at all, decent back in some angled shots, flat and fat back in others, from the front you are no where near competitive.
And yes, Im a 200lb bodybuilder, and you are a 185lb bodybuilder if you got show ready.
Lol
..post up their info where? HERE ???? Hahahahha..... You stupid fucking troll. You think I'm gonna "post their info" HERE???? HAHHAA my fucking god.... You stupid fucking troll, 52yrs old, crosseyed, rotten, yellow snaggletoothed inbred englishman... If you think you DESERVE to know who the fuck my clients are, in gonna need about $30k upfront cash and another $3k a month After that for the next few months so in can build my client base back up after they find out.. Or that is, my cliemts drop me because they start get harrassing phone calls and FB friend requests.
BY THE WAY JOSH, YOU FAT DICK SUCKING PUNK, YOU CONTINUE TO.CONTACT MY CLIENTS, FB FRIENDS, MY SISTERS, AUNTS, MOTHER ETC YOULL FIND YOURSELF IN A CELL WITH SOMEONE IN-REAL-LIFE. JOSH
THIS IS REAL LIFE... JOSH.
THINGS REALLY, REALLY HAPPEN IN REAL LIFE. JOSH
Who has more to lose JoSH? ??? lol who has more to lose?
Say "hi" to your sister
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Lol
..post up their info where? HERE ???? Hahahahha..... You stupid fucking troll. You think I'm gonna "post their info" HERE???? HAHHAA my fucking god.... You stupid fucking troll, 52yrs old, crosseyed, rotten, yellow snaggletoothed inbred englishman... If you think you DESERVE to know who the fuck my clients are, in gonna need about $30k upfront cash and another $3k a month After that for the next few months so in can build my client base back up after they find out.. Or that is, my cliemts drop me because they start get harrassing phone calls and FB friend requests.
BY THE WAY JOSH, YOU FAT DICK SUCKING PUNK, YOU CONTINUE TO.CONTACT MY CLIENTS, FB FRIENDS, MY SISTERS, AUNTS, MOTHER ETC YOULL FIND YOURSELF IN A CELL WITH SOMEONE IN-REAL-LIFE. JOSH
THIS IS REAL LIFE... JOSH.
THINGS REALLY, REALLY HAPPEN IN REAL LIFE. JOSH
Who has more to lose JoSH? ??? lol who has more to lose?
Say "hi" to your sister
maybe on your instagram or website........you know, the normal places a PT would advertise.
Surely this is not beyond your comprehension...
Why are you ranting at Josh in response to me?
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most pros are genetic freaks...
I wouldn't call them genetic freaks. They have good genetics for BB no doubt, but I don't think such genetics are rare.
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That's the 2nd time you've mentioned Be There in a post directed towards me. I don't know if you're trying to instigate something or what but I really don't care what be there looks like or what he uses. This Thread is about Phil. Phil is a sociopath. He's a liar. A proven liar who's been kicked off of promuscle after being there since before I went to prison since before I left San Diego since before I left Los Angeles. Dude's a rat who will say anything to anybody if he thinks that's what they want to hear.
Phil's got great genetics.. All pros have great genetics
. blah blah blah... the feeling so proud to mention at any given opportunity that the following year the judges tell him he didn't Place well because he looks like a poster boy for anabolic steroid abuse, do you really think he increased his dosages that much for that contest over what he was previously using? When he already had access to everything he wanted? You think he's going to go up on stage for the USA is trying to get a pro card and he's going to Baby doses Way to the Top? you think you didn't know what Craig (another dealer) was using? Or what Craig and Paul were using for the nationals in 94? And he's just gonna use 350/wk Winstrol & 1500/wk test? GH was expensive then and a lot was faked (faked by craig himself even.. Later on at least. But guys like him and Phil don't turn into scamming scumbag overnight) and insulin wasn't as popular. And just because guys have great gwnetics doesn't mean they're gonna use as little as possible. These are bodybuilders. Have you ate or super heavyweight bodybuilders. Not physique competitors or underwear models. These are guys competing for a pro card in the Dorian era where size and conditioning mattered. When guys were pushing the envelope. A guy saying they only used 1 in and 1 oral for less than 2g/wk and expecting people to believe it is an insult to everybody's intelligence. He may as have said he only trained 2x a week for 6 weeks prior as well.
Taking into acount that you sell steroids, it is obviously that you will undermine the power of good genes, and claim that it's ALL DRUGS.
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Thought that's get your attention josh
Why r u so scared to answer the phone? I called for a few hours yet all you had the ball for was text messages. Lol
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I actually trained at golds same year Titus won the USA at long beach, pretty familiar with what the guys were doing off season around that time, the dosages are not as high as some would have you believe not as low as what I thought either, pretty standard top amateur and pro guys most guys off seasons were an amp a day of sust along with deca,or equipoise some like craig used two, HGH use was on the increase as cheaper chinese growth started to come in, but most of the successful guys stuck firm with lower dose more expensive Humatrope,or other, the chinese growth ruined quite a few guys, who just couldn't get rid of the water retention that came with it. The guys who were winning were the guys who hadn't burned their source, many top Olympia guys placings suffered when they couldn't get what they wanted it actually amazed me how important a good source was to your success at that level.
Craig was a real prick, compulsive liar, strung out on bain, won the usa at 219 told everyone else he was 229 or even the more gullible 239, was a good show and even though I had prince beating him the standard was very high and all the guys were in great shape unlike todays bloat balls, Prince might be a weirdo but he was one big guy that day, one of the thickest looking pros to ever hit the NPC
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Taking into acount that you sell steroids, it is obviously that you will undermine the power of good genes, and claim that it's ALL DRUGS.
Claim what is all drugs?
You obviously better do some reading or research on me
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I actually trained at golds same year Titus won the USA at long beach, pretty familiar with what the guys were doing off season around that time, the dosages are not as high as some would have you believe not as low as what I thought either, pretty standard top amateur and pro guys most guys off seasons were an amp a day of sust along with deca,or equipoise some like craig used two, HGH use was on the increase as cheaper chinese growth started to come in, but most of the successful guys stuck firm with lower dose more expensive Humatrope,or other, the chinese growth ruined quite a few guys, who just couldn't get rid of the water retention that came with it. The guys who were winning were the guys who hadn't burned their source, many top Olympia guys placings suffered when they couldn't get what they wanted it actually amazed me how important a good source was to your success at that level.
Craig was a real prick, compulsive liar, strung out on bain, won the usa at 219 told everyone else he was 229 or even the more gullible 239, was a good show and even though I had prince beating him the standard was very high and all the guys were in great shape unlike todays bloat balls, Prince might be a weirdo but he was one big guy that day, one of the thickest looking pros to ever hit the NPC
Begs the question, do you know esfitness, seems he was there at the time as well....
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I actually trained at golds same year Titus won the USA at long beach, pretty familiar with what the guys were doing off season around that time, the dosages are not as high as some would have you believe not as low as what I thought either, pretty standard top amateur and pro guys most guys off seasons were an amp a day of sust along with deca,or equipoise some like craig used two, HGH use was on the increase as cheaper chinese growth started to come in, but most of the successful guys stuck firm with lower dose more expensive Humatrope,or other, the chinese growth ruined quite a few guys, who just couldn't get rid of the water retention that came with it. The guys who were winning were the guys who hadn't burned their source, many top Olympia guys placings suffered when they couldn't get what they wanted it actually amazed me how important a good source was to your success at that level.
Craig was a real prick, compulsive liar, strung out on bain, won the usa at 219 told everyone else he was 229 or even the more gullible 239, was a good show and even though I had prince beating him the standard was very high and all the guys were in great shape unlike todays bloat balls, Prince might be a weirdo but he was one big guy that day, one of the thickest looking pros to ever hit the NPC
Chinese gh in 96?? You mean Nutropin blue tops??
I wasn't aware of any Chinese shit till I got out of prison and Craig went in a little before me.
Back then.. Around '01 /02 we sold Humatrope for $90/16ok fresh out the fridge. Right around the time Serostim came around with "time2grow"@whatever email they used .. Hushmail or whatever was secure Back then. Remember the "original t2g"? Lol.. Shame what hAppened to him josh. Although he did love those motorcycles... Not those minitrucks josh.. Right? Oh, sorry.. Youndont know.. Lol... You'll find out soon enough. lol. Proxy servers are great josh. Yea?? Answer your phone
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how do you explain only a 15 pound bw diff btw 19 and when he hit his max size which was 210 @ the 79 O
15 pounds is OK but nothing extordinary over the course of 10 years
He is not in competition shape in that pic compared to later on in his career.
His future physique is lightyears ahead of that one in both size and leanness and how do you explain how most everyone that actually knew him/worked out with him says he took large amounts of deca, etc.?
He could very well be running high doseages at that time as well. I wouldn't be shocked by that in the least. Considering the size of those guys back then are not much smaller then they are today and we all know how much they use nowadays, why is it such a shock? They also didn't have the benefit of Gh/insulin as much so you have to take more aas to achieve more.
I am seeing his weight was generally around 225lbs in competition. Could be wrong. Those physiques are far apart probably based more on time then anything else or just not knowing how much it took to be a top pro. Shape is there.
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Chinese gh in 96?? You mean Nutropin blue tops??
I wasn't aware of any Chinese shit till I got out of prison and Craig went in a little before me.
Back then.. Around '01 /02 we sold Humatrope for $90/16ok fresh out the fridge. Right around the time Serostim came around with "time2grow"@whatever email they used .. Hushmail or whatever was secure Back then. Remember the "original t2g"? Lol.. Shame what hAppened to him josh. Although he did love those motorcycles... Not those minitrucks josh.. Right? Oh, sorry.. Youndont know.. Lol... You'll find out soon enough. lol. Proxy servers are great josh. Yea?? Answer your phone
What's going on behind the scenes with Josh? How come you talking to him while responding to a post from Honest?
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not trying to instigate anything, he pooped in my head first because he is in this thread and still competes
you get way too defensive sometimes, not every post disagreeing with you is a slight
Yeah, BeThere does enjoy pooping in people's minds.... that's his bag...
(Innocent typo makes immature man laugh immaturely.... ;D)
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I actually trained at golds same year Titus won the USA at long beach, pretty familiar with what the guys were doing off season around that time, the dosages are not as high as some would have you believe not as low as what I thought either, pretty standard top amateur and pro guys most guys off seasons were an amp a day of sust along with deca,or equipoise some like craig used two, HGH use was on the increase as cheaper chinese growth started to come in, but most of the successful guys stuck firm with lower dose more expensive Humatrope,or other, the chinese growth ruined quite a few guys, who just couldn't get rid of the water retention that came with it. The guys who were winning were the guys who hadn't burned their source, many top Olympia guys placings suffered when they couldn't get what they wanted it actually amazed me how important a good source was to your success at that level.
Craig was a real prick, compulsive liar, strung out on bain, won the usa at 219 told everyone else he was 229 or even the more gullible 239, was a good show and even though I had prince beating him the standard was very high and all the guys were in great shape unlike todays bloat balls, Prince might be a weirdo but he was one big guy that day, one of the thickest looking pros to ever hit the NPC
Thanks! Yeah Craig was a douche. Met him aswell in 2003. Man was he fuckled up! But still a cool guy around that time. Met Kelly too.
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I actually trained at golds same year Titus won the USA at long beach, pretty familiar with what the guys were doing off season around that time, the dosages are not as high as some would have you believe not as low as what I thought either, pretty standard top amateur and pro guys most guys off seasons were an amp a day of sust along with deca,or equipoise some like craig used two, HGH use was on the increase as cheaper chinese growth started to come in, but most of the successful guys stuck firm with lower dose more expensive Humatrope,or other, the chinese growth ruined quite a few guys, who just couldn't get rid of the water retention that came with it. The guys who were winning were the guys who hadn't burned their source, many top Olympia guys placings suffered when they couldn't get what they wanted it actually amazed me how important a good source was to your success at that level.
Craig was a real prick, compulsive liar, strung out on bain, won the usa at 219 told everyone else he was 229 or even the more gullible 239, was a good show and even though I had prince beating him the standard was very high and all the guys were in great shape unlike todays bloat balls, Prince might be a weirdo but he was one big guy that day, one of the thickest looking pros to ever hit the NPC
An amp a day to me plus all the other stuff you mentioned should give anyone who can achieve a pro physique a pro physique. If it takes more than that go find another hobby.
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An amp a day to me plus all the other stuff you mentioned should give anyone who can achieve a pro physique a pro physique. If it takes more than that go find another hobby.
according to both yates and kev max dose is 1.5 grams per week of combined injects and a some oral throw in and more than that was uncessary
basically 1 gram of test and 500 of deca or eq
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according to both yates and kev max dose is 1.5 grams per week of combined injects and a some oral throw in and more than that was uncessary
basically 1 gram of test and 500 of deca or eq
Jesus H fucking Christ!!!! How bout stop being a big fucking VAGINA HOLE and up the dose!!!!! Shoot a few grams a week for a few weeks and let us know what happens.
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Jesus H fucking Christ!!!! How bout stop being a big fucking VAGINA HOLE and up the dose!!!!! Shoot a few grams a week for a few weeks and let us know what happens.
nothing will happen he's a psychopathic loser with an eating disorder.
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Jesus H fucking Christ!!!! How bout stop being a big fucking VAGINA HOLE and up the dose!!!!! Shoot a few grams a week for a few weeks and let us know what happens.
;D
but, but..... I only wanna do mens bikini if i compete 😎
anyways i may actually run a gram of deca most ive done before was 600 and it worked very well pour moi
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but, but..... I only wanna do mens bikini if i compete 😎
anyways i may actually run a gram of deca most ive done before was 600 and it worked very well pour moi
Do you always want to look the same??????? Up up up the dose!!!!!! Come on BE LIKE MIKE!
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nothing will happen he's a psychopathic loser with an eating disorder.
Chances are he's maxed out in the muscle department. :'(
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Chances are he's maxed out in the muscle department. :'(
doubt it
I hit a buck 75 only training arms and chest shouldere are GENETIC
if i decided to actually train my legs and back (the 2 largest muscles in the bod) like i trained my arms id easily hit 2 bills.... EASILY
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doubt it
I hit a buck 75 only training arms and chest shouldere are GENETIC
if i decided to actually train my legs and back (the 2 largest muscles in the bod) like i trained my arms id easily hit 2 bills.... EASILY
I would hope not you are just a shade above this guy.
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I would hope not you are just a shade above this guy.
yeah you got me
i look pretty close to that in the pic i posted ::)
p.s. I gave up alcohol stone cold turkey, no drugs, no hospital, no rehab, so that makes me one tough SOB 😎
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yeah you got me
i look pretty close to that in the pic i posted ::)
p.s. I gave up alcohol stone cold turkey, no drugs, no hospital, no rehab, so that makes me one tough SOB 😎
Come on man the guy in the pic could get where your at in 6 months. So like I said, you're not far off from him.
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Come on man the guy in the pic could get where your at in 6 months. So like I said, you're not far off from him.
you gotta be kidding lol
even if he got to my bw id still pwn him cos of my outstanding shape and structure
scale weight means fuck all (well mostly it does, but you gotta factor in structure, leaness, tightness of skin etc)
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doubt it
I hit a buck 75 only training arms and chest shouldere are GENETIC
if i decided to actually train my legs and back (the 2 largest muscles in the bod) like i trained my arms id easily hit 2 bills.... EASILY
Back would be my #1 priority.
If I could only train 1 muscle group a week it'd be back. If for some reason I only had time for w muscle groups, it'd be back one day, shoulders (rear gets hit on back day, but id touch'em up again) the next with traps getting direct work on shoulder day, inatead of on back day. Would also hit triceps on back day. Biceps get work on back day. There was quite a while when is only train biceps once a month and triceps once every 3wks and still maintained arms at 18.5-19.25, but back and delts are gonna have the biggest visual impact o n your physique
https://www.instagram.com/p/6XpbWsihtX/
https://www.instagram.com/p/X_AY2gihlg/
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you gotta be kidding lol
even if he got to my bw id still pwn him cos of my outstanding shape and structure
scale weight means fuck all (well mostly it does, but you gotta factor in structure, leaness, tightness of skin etc)
No not kidding at all. This guy could very well have a much better structure than you. In fact I'm betting he does. Your structure is "OK". I mean for maybe wearing a tank on the beach.
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bullshit
You are a PT, you can post up their info if you like, they are your clients, all PTs post pics of clients they train as part of advertising their business.
Really mate, cut this fucking bullshit
Oh.. and you simply dont have an onstage build, you have no legs at all, decent back in some angled shots, flat and fat back in others, from the front you are no where near competitive.
And yes, Im a 200lb bodybuilder, and you are a 185lb bodybuilder if you got show ready.
https://www.instagram.com/p/XUAYOcChmS/
https://www.instagram.com/p/XyVS0BChpV/
Still quite amusing people think I'm gonna expose my clients to the trolls and scumbags on message board just to "prove myself". Pathetic
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this is my chest as a natty under the tuttuledge of doc Blakely
that they is great chest structure
hell, even 15 himself said so 😎
damn cant find that photo but give me a sec and i will upload it
heres doc Blakely to tide you over cheif
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ka-pap!!!
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https://www.instagram.com/p/XUAYOcChmS/
https://www.instagram.com/p/XyVS0BChpV/
Still quite amusing people think I'm gonna expose my clients to the trolls and scumbags on message board just to "prove myself". Pathetic
wheres the pics of the decent legs?
2013 legs of peace.
You dont have any clients.,
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Honestly, after what Disgusted just said about dj upping the dose, I wonder what he could do with his physique if he did the followong
-upped the dose for 6-8 weeks at a gram plus per
-ate some version of that JM diet he keeps posting or at best a high calorie, high protein, high carb, high fat clean bulking program
-trained his whole body equally
-dropped the heavy duty crap and other swill he has supposedly been doing and focus on lots of sets, reps, low rest, feeling the muscle bodybuilding style, like lets say an old school spilt of chest/back, shoulders/arms, legs superset higher volume style program
I think he would make great gains for his body type at least, I think he sells himmself short by correlating size and strength and would be better off focusing on the movements with lots of sets/reps.
I think if someone like disgusted/coach etc put him on a eating/bodybuilding training type program and he actually FUCKING LISTENED outside the box rather than bounce around thinking he knows everything he could possibly build a better physique than the shitty one where he is not fulfilling his potential(he has no other potential other than improving his physique)
Honestly I feel he takes the wrong advices for HIS physique from the wrong people, and he should be taking advices from guys who are naturally ectos oir those who have actually been successful with ectos. With all due respect to JM and Lorimar his former "coaches" I feel they overlooked alot when it came to DJ and/or he nodded yes to them while doing the opposite when out of their sight.
Sorry but for being trained by well known in his area guys, something was missing here. They either missed and/or he didn't do it.
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ka-pap!!!
More like Ka-put. OK so here is a good comparison of you and someone very much like you. I told you he was not far off from you. This kid went from very skinny to decent shape in 4 months. You fall somewhere in the middle of these two pics. :)
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Honestly, after what Disgusted just said about dj upping the dose, I wonder what he could do with his physique if he did the followong
-upped the dose for 6-8 weeks at a gram plus per
-ate some version of that JM diet he keeps posting or at best a high calorie, high protein, high carb, high fat clean bulking program
-trained his whole body equally
-dropped the heavy duty crap and other swill he has supposedly been doing and focus on lots of sets, reps, low rest, feeling the muscle bodybuilding style, like lets say an old school spilt of chest/back, shoulders/arms, legs superset higher volume style program
I think he would make great gains for his body type at least, I think he sells himmself short by correlating size and strength and would be better off focusing on the movements with lots of sets/reps.
I think if someone like disgusted/coach etc put him on a eating/bodybuilding training type program and he actually FUCKING LISTENED outside the box rather than bounce around thinking he knows everything he could possibly build a better physique than the shitty one where he is not fulfilling his potential(he has no other potential other than improving his physique)
Honestly I feel he takes the wrong advices for HIS physique from the wrong people, and he should be taking advices from guys who are naturally ectos oir those who have actually been successful with ectos. With all due respect to JM and Lorimar his former "coaches" I feel they overlooked alot when it came to DJ and/or he nodded yes to them while doing the opposite when out of their sight.
Sorry but for being trained by well known in his area guys, something was missing here. They either missed and/or he didn't do it.
hes been an idiot on this board for years, he never listens to anyone.
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More like Ka-put. OK so here is a good comparison of you and someone very much like you. I told you he was not far off from you. This kid went from very skinny to decent shape in 4 months. You fall somewhere in the middle of these two pics. :)
wow that kid really improved Disgusted, and probably didn't even have to use/abuse anything like our firend DJ
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wow that kid really improved Disgusted, and probably didn't even have to use/abuse anything like our firend DJ
Prob not. This kid has better triceps than DJ007 but I think a good comparison.
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this is my chest as a natty under the tuttuledge of doc Blakely
that they is great chest structure
hell, even 15 himself said so 😎
damn cant find that photo but give me a sec and i will upload it
heres doc Blakely to tide you over cheif
Old Doc is looking good very muscle bearish.
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wheres the pics of the decent legs?
2013 legs of peace.
You dont have any clients.,
I'm not getting on a bodybuildimg stage. At most ill do mens physique, especially now with a 14" scar from my waist to my hamstring, that's a couple inches wide of purple in the middle and missing 75-80% of my gluteus medius... Plus im comfortable walking around at 225-235 and don't really give a fuck about getting onstage.
lol @ you thinking you're gonna goad me into posting my clients on here for degenerates with no social skills to harass them and risk my income. Idiot.
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I'm not getting on a bodybuildimg stage. At most ill do mens physique, especially now with a 14" scar from my waist to my hamstring, that's a couple inches wide of purple in the middle and missing 75-80% of my gluteus medius... Plus im comfortable walking around at 225-235 and don't really give a fuck about getting onstage.
lol @ you thinking you're gonna goad me into posting my clients on here for degenerates with no social skills to harass them and risk my income. Idiot.
You dont have any clients and you cant hit 235 unless you are 18-20% bf
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Prob not. This kid has better triceps than DJ007 but I think a good comparison.
do you think you could transform DJ's physique with massive improvement if he did exactly what you told him or is a writeoff either way?
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Prob not. This kid has better triceps than DJ007 but I think a good comparison.
sure he does
sure he does lol 😂
p.s. those are my natty triceps 😉
heres whats gonna happen
I run deca somewhere btw 600-1000 per week and test @ 125-200
and i will gain 25 easy pounds in 6 weeks MAX
if i train everything equally hard i can maybe even gain 40 pounds
maybe we can place a bet on this dim?
hell i will even give you 2 to 1 odds on the 25 pound gain
and here is the sticker..... this gain will be ALL QUALITY gain no fat and no interstical water (water btw skin and muscle)
so what do you say dim?
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sure he does
sure he does lol 😂
p.s. those are my natty triceps 😉
heres whats gonna happen
I run deca somewhere btw 600-1000 per week and test @ 125-200
and i will gain 25 easy pounds in 6 weeks MAX
if i train everything equally hard i can maybe even gain 40 pounds
maybe we can place a bet on this dim?
hell i will even give you 2 to 1 odds on the 25 pound gain
and here is the sticker..... this gain will be ALL QUALITY gain no fat and no interstical water (water btw skin and muscle)
so what do you say dim?
HAHAHAHA 25 pounds of solid muscle minimum in 6 weeks??? You're on pal. If I win you owe me $50 if you win I owe you $100. I want a video of you stepping on the scale in a gym with someone else holding the camera. Fro that day on 6 weeks. If you gain 24 pounds you lose and if it's a good degree of fat you also lose. Oh and BTW if you didn't notice I gave you the better odds. You're gonna need it. ;D
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HAHAHAHA 25 pounds of solid muscle minimum in 6 weeks??? You're on pal. If I win you owe me $50 if you win I owe you $100. I want a video of you stepping on the scale in a gym with someone else holding the camera. Fro that day on 6 weeks. If you gain 24 pounds you lose and if it's a good degree of fat you also lose. Oh and BTW if you didn't notice I gave you the better odds. You're gonna need it. ;D
no worries
ill have the deca this week so once i get it then its on baby!
ill have a bud film the weigh in and ill have a bud take some before and after picz
im weighing all of bout a buck 52 right now @ 6'5" 😎😂
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HAHAHAHA 25 pounds of solid muscle minimum in 6 weeks??? You're on pal. If I win you owe me $50 if you win I owe you $100. I want a video of you stepping on the scale in a gym with someone else holding the camera. Fro that day on 6 weeks. If you gain 24 pounds you lose and if it's a good degree of fat you also lose. Oh and BTW if you didn't notice I gave you the better odds. You're gonna need it. ;D
thats going to be the hardest part of the challenge.
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I figure ideal stage weight for me for mens bikini would be 175-180
much more than that would be too big thinks
and BoooooooooZooooooo
doc Blakelys diet sucked ass as it made me fat and water bloated so its a waste of time
yes you cam gain lean with little to no fat or water as i will demonstrate 😎
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thats going to be the hardest part of the challenge.
actually i have lots of admires amongst fellas its just the females who i dont relate to well 😂
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I figure ideal stage weight for me for mens bikini would be 175-180
much more than that would be too big thinks
and BoooooooooZooooooo
doc Blakelys diet sucked ass as it made me fat and water bloated so its a waste of time
yes you cam gain lean with little to no fat or water as i will demonstrate 😎
why don't you ask disgusted to give you a bodybuilding/eating routine to follow then keep us posted in the positive bodybuilding section, something like be there has.
What do you have to lose.
Do the whole body equally and prove us all wrong.
Like you said you currently are not working and if you can afford gear surely you can afford food and a gym to train in
you talk alot of shit, and I will be the first to congratulate you if you do.
not trolling here I want to see you put your money where your mouth is and prove all us haters wrong
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why don't you ask disgusted to give you a bodybuilding/eating routine to follow then keep us posted in the positive bodybuilding section, something like be there has.
What do you have to lose.
Do the whole body equally and prove us all wrong.
Like you said you currently are not working and if you can afford gear surely you can afford food and a gym to train in
you talk alot of shit, and I will be the first to congratulate you if you do.
not trolling here I want to see you put your money where your mouth is and prove all us haters wrong
allright ill put it up in the postive section
ill put up the starting pic either tomorrow or weds, gotta make sure one of my admirers will be availble to take them
probably a front and back double bi and maybe side chest side tri but for sure front and back double bi
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allright here it is
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=637656.0
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An amp a day to me plus all the other stuff you mentioned should give anyone who can achieve a pro physique a pro physique. If it takes more than that go find another hobby.
Yeah was too much for me to contemplate decided to keep going as a hobby and enjoy life, twenty three years on have no regrets either. still belive in genetics over dosages make the man, but in the end to make it to the top you need both.
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You dont have any clients and you cant hit 235 unless you are 18-20% bf
I wasn't even 20% bf in prison. Fucking joke you are, thinking you know dick about me lol
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I wasn't even 20% bf in prison. Fucking joke you are, thinking you know dick about me lol
the videos of you on your instagram doing cable rows you are about 16%, check out your love handles.
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the videos of you on your instagram doing cable rows you are about 16%, check out your love handles.
Yea and I was on nothin but med dose test and shooting 6g heroin and work in 16+ hrs a day you dumb guy. Heroin in my shoulders so it ain't like I had too many spots to shoot.
Holy fuck you're pathetic. Obcesses with me so much you name IG videos I have. Pathetic. Fuck, I bet you know my pics so well your punkass jerks off to them. There can be NO OTHER logical reason besides that... For whatever reason, the jealousy in you is apparent to me and many others here.
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Yea and I was on nothin but med dose test and shooting 6g heroin and work in 16+ hrs a day you dumb guy. Heroin in my shoulders so it ain't like I had too many spots to shoot.
Holy fuck you're pathetic. Obcesses with me so much you name IG videos I have. Pathetic. Fuck, I bet you know my pics so well your punkass jerks off to them. There can be NO OTHER logical reason besides that... For whatever reason, the jealousy in you is apparent to me and many others here.
so you post videos of you in such a state yet when you look your best you have zero photos????
Makes sense.
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A heroin addict calling someone else pathetic? That's rich.