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For me the answer is clear. Diet beats exercise hands down and this video explains why.
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If you need to click on that video to get that diet is more important for losing weight than exercising, you should stop exercising.
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Losing weight is easy. Losing fat is another ball game
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A caloric deficit from diet, exercise or both causes weight loss. "The science is in?"...There are scientists studying this?....
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A caloric deficit from diet, exercise or both causes weight loss. "The science is in?"...There are scientists studying this?....
yes it aint rocket science.
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Exercise by far.
Eat a box of donuts while walking around the block.
You will drop a few pounds.
Do this everyday and you will get ripped.
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A calorie defecit will drop the weight. Resistance training is the primary tool for maintaining as much muscle as possible during the weight loss. So, diet and exercise are both equally important.
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Coming from someone who stores fat pretty easy, diet shits all over cardio and everything else when it comes to fat loss. I can do two hours cardio plus a heavy weight sessions and still gain weight at a rapid rate if I don't cut my calories back. I can do half the cardio or less and still lose weight quickly if I cut back on my calories. I mean how many fatties do you see at the gym every day doing countless cardio sessions and they never lose a pound.
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"Which is More Important For Losing Weight, Diet, or Exercise"?
Yes...
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Sleep
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Exercise by far.
Eat a box of donuts while walking around the block.
You will drop a few pounds.
Do this everyday and you will get ripped.
Lol!
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If you need to click on that video to get that diet is more important for losing weight than exercising, you should stop exercising.
As you can see from the responses in this thread, there are plenty of people who don't share that view. There was another multipage thread just a few weeks back that covered the same topic. It's kinda bizarre when you think about it because if you just take a minute to really think about it, you'll realize that it's basic common sense. But for some reason when they hear that diet is more important for weight loss, what they hear is "exercise can't help you get into shape" or "exercise is worthless". :-\
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As you can see from the responses in this thread, there are plenty of people who don't share that view. There was another multipage thread just a few weeks back that covered the same topic. It's kinda bizarre when you think about it because if you just take a minute to really think about it, you'll realize that it's basic common sense. But for some reason when they hear that diet is more important for weight loss, what they hear is "exercise can't help you get into shape" or "exercise is worthless". :-\
Common sense, as you said. I would guess that most people on this board have worked out to put on weight at first. So you know the deal. Losing weight has nothing to do with physical activity per say. Of course, working out will keep your metabolism going at a certain level. Will maximize your weight loss once you cut calories while having enough protein intake so as to not lose muscle, yadiyadiyada....You want to slim down, cut the calories. Even the BS 2g/ protein per kg of body weight won’t account for much unless you’re 400kg athlete.
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Losing weight is seemingly irrelevant when you realize most people are obese and live to be 80 or older. Exercise isn't either. It's diet, at least for people who had health problems, and that's also the hardest to stick to. Any moron can hit the weights and go to Burger King to refuel. But can they go home and eat dry turkey and brown rice 7 days a week? Few can.
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Losing weight is seemingly irrelevant when you realize most people are obese and live to be 80 or older. Exercise isn't either. It's diet, at least for people who had health problems, and that's also the hardest to stick to. Any moron can hit the weights and go to Burger King to refuel. But can they go home and eat dry turkey and brown rice 7 days a week? Few can.
Simple formula: don't get fat :)
or get on Auschwitz diet :D
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Simple formula: don't get fat :)
or get on Auschwitz diet :D
Hard to do in a country where a full meal at any fast foot outlet is like $5 and they're on every street corner. America is the hardest country in the world to stick to a diet in. I'm shocked at how disciplined BBers are...oh wait, they're not. They eat whatever they want then take industrial-strength fat burners plus 20 minutes of cardio and a train load of drugs to diet down, then put it all back after the show. ::)
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Losing weight is seemingly irrelevant when you realize most people are obese and live to be 80 or older.
That's not true at all. Most of the obese die young. When was the last time you saw a three hundred pound 80 year old.
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That's not true at all. Most of the obese die young. When was the last time you see a three hundred pound 80 year old.
I know several and have seen many who were 70+. You're delusional if you think the average person diets or ever sees a gym except from the outside. I'd say maybe 10% of the population at best works out regularly and that's probably an exaggeration. The average lifespan is 81 for men and like 83 for women. Obese doesn't mean being shown on that tv show on TLC for being so big you can't get out of bed. Just being 30lbs over your BMI is enough.
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Jack-hammering 'sport' build muscles ;)
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I know several and have seen many who were 70+. You're delusional if you think the average person diets or ever sees a gym except from the outside. I'd say maybe 10% of the population at best works out regularly and that's probably an exaggeration. The average lifespan is 81 for men and like 83 for women. Obese doesn't mean being shown on that tv show on TLC for being so big you can't get out of bed. Just being 30lbs over your BMI is enough.
I don't know if I would consider being 30 pounds over weight as obese. That must be a European thing.
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70% of your daily calories are burned at rest. 15% of your calories are burned from daily activities, non exercise activity. 10% of your calories are burned through eating, digesting. 5% is burned through exercise.
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I don't know if I would consider being 30 pounds over weight as obese. That must be a European thing.
A BMI of 30 or greater is clinical obesity. Granted, that’s not designed for bodybuilders or pro sportsmen but it’s what doctors in the US use to establish baseline risk factors.
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It takes over an hour of running to burn 1000 cal which is about a pint of Ben & Jerry’s that I can knock off in less than 10 minutes.
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Curling beers burns off more calories than the beer contains.
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For me the answer is clear. Diet beats exercise hands down and this video explains why.
Probably depends on the individuals response to diet and/or exercise. I usually gain weight when I'm working consistently.
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It takes over an hour of running to burn 1000 cal which is about a pint of Ben & Jerry’s that I can knock off in less than 10 minutes.
That's real running, as in, 80-95% of your VO2 max, not jogging, not speed walking, not strolling, and not flat surfaces the entire way.
Know a lot of people who do that? Yeah, me neither.
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A BMI of 30 or greater is clinical obesity. Granted, that’s not designed for bodybuilders or pro sportsmen but it’s what doctors in the US use to establish baseline risk factors.
Which doesn't change what the other poster was saying. There's a difference between clinical and morbid obesity, and you don't really see people in the latter group living into their 70s and 80s. And the simple fact of the matter is that the further up the clinical scale someone goes, the more likely they are to exhibit the risk factors you talked about.
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Which doesn't change what the other poster was saying. There's a difference between clinical and morbid obesity, and you don't really see people in the latter group living into their 70s and 80s. And the simple fact of the matter is that the further up the clinical scale someone goes, the more likely they are to exhibit the risk factors you talked about.
No, it definitely does change what he said because he never said anything about morbid obesity and implied old people who are obese don't really exist. Both of which are untrue. Also, the heavier you are, doesn't make your life any shorter. It's far from a direct correlation given how many factors go into dying early: genetics, drug/alcohol abuse, smoking, stress, sleep.
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Carrying excessive bodyweight, even if it's muscle, lowers your life expectancy.
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Diet without exercise could cause one to lose lean tissue.
If you are going to diet (i.e. lower your overall calories), then replace some of your carbohydrate calories with more protein.
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Carrying excessive bodyweight, even if it's muscle, lowers your life expectancy.
Not in a perfect curve. Plenty of thin/skinny/normal people die ahead of schedule, too. You could make the case that heavier people on average live less, but that's still very much on a case-by-case basis and requires taking other factors into account. With modern pharmaceuticals, even people who should've died 20 years ago are still alive (unfortunately).
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No, it definitely does change what he said because he never said anything about morbid obesity and implied old people who are obese don't really exist. Both of which are untrue. Also, the heavier you are, doesn't make your life any shorter. It's far from a direct correlation given how many factors go into dying early: genetics, drug/alcohol abuse, smoking, stress, sleep.
Not really, because he was replying to you who claimed that weight is irrelevant in regards to lifespan (which is not true) and he specifically said 300 lbs in his post. ::)
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Not really, because he was replying to you who claimed that weight is irrelevant in regards to long life (which is not true) and he specifically said 300 lbs in his post. ::)
I never said weight is irrelevant, I said losing weight is irrelevant. You're twisting what I said because you don't have a case here.
300lbs, so what? Is that obese to a 6'8" man, too? What about a football player who's mostly muscle?
You're not making a very strong argument when your entire premise is based on false statements.
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I never said weight is irrelevant, I said losing weight is irrelevant. You're twisting what I said because you don't have a case here.
300lbs, so what? Is that obese to a 6'8" man, too? What about a football player who's mostly muscle?
You're not making a very strong argument when your entire premise is based on false statements.
LOL more of your psychotic backpedaling. Obviously 300 lbs was shorthand for morbid obesity. And in your followup post you said you knew several 300lb 70 year olds. But sure, I' m twisting your words. ::)
That's not true at all. Most of the obese die young. When was the last time you saw a three hundred pound 80 year old.
I know several and have seen many who were 70+.
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LOL more of your psychotic backpedaling. Obviously 300 lbs was shorthand for morbid obesity. And in your followup post you said you knew several 300lb 70 year olds. But sure, I' m twisting your words. ::)
Where's the backpedaling? You quoted back something I wrote that's true - there's plenty of obese people over 80. Do you live under a rock or something? You misquoted me, I pointed that out, and now you've dropped that angle and melted into ad hominems like liberals do when cornered.
You're not making a case here. Nothing you've said disproves what I said. There's nothing about 300 being shorthand for morbid obesity without more information about the person of that alleged size. What are you, 12?
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Where's the backpedaling? You quoted back something I wrote that's true - there's plenty of obese people over 80. Do you live under a rock or something? You misquoted me, I pointed that out, and now you've dropped that angle and melted into ad hominems like liberals do when cornered.
You're not making a case here. Nothing you've said disproves what I said. There's nothing about 300 being shorthand for morbid obesity without more information about the person of that alleged size. What are you, 12?
Seek help.
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Seek help.
I'm set.
Learn to read, discuss like a normal adult if you want anyone to take you seriously. Protip.
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I'm set.
Learn to read, discuss like a normal adult if you want anyone to take you seriously. Protip.
Normal adult as in 6 '8", 300 lbs? ::) You should probably clarify what you mean by "normal" since you seem to have a little trouble with the concept.
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Hard to do in a country where a full meal at any fast foot outlet is like $5 and they're on every street corner. America is the hardest country in the world to stick to a diet in. I'm shocked at how disciplined BBers are...oh wait, they're not. They eat whatever they want then take industrial-strength fat burners plus 20 minutes of cardio and a train load of drugs to diet down, then put it all back after the show. ::)
U should visit Thailand , far more eating places & choices than in the States,Canada or Australia , + much cheaper & super tasty food.
No need to tip & allways smiling employees .............
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Normal adult as in 6 '8", 300 lbs? ::) You should probably clarify what you mean by "normal" since you seem to have a little trouble with the concept.
I didn't say a normal adult was 6'8". Where did you get that?
I don't have trouble with anything. You have trouble with the truth, like all Democrats do.
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U should visit Thailand , far more eating places & choices than in the States,Canada or Australia , + much cheaper & super tasty food.
No need to tip & allways smiling employees .............
I don't tip much anyway, unless the service is exceptional. Not a fan of Thai food or culture, either. But saying any food is tastier than American food is kind of like saying apple juice tastes better than urine. It goes without saying. You can only eat so many hot dogs or grilled chicken wings before you want souvlaki or shawarma, or a nice Italian dish.
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I didn't say a normal adult was 6'8". Where did you get that?
I don't have trouble with anything. You have trouble with the truth, like all Democrats do.
Nah. You're just a moron.
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Nah. You're just a moron.
So you're all done here. I thought so 3 posts ago as well.
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So you're all done here. I thought so 3 posts ago as well.
You are a moron, though.
If someone is talking about obesity and mentions weight but no height, what are the chances that the example is supposed to be extraordinarily tall? Because they're trying to undermine their point?Ya see how it wouldn't make sense? You have a lot of trouble grasping simple points. Are the multiple 300 lb 80 year olds you know 6'8"?
So, yeah, this is over, dum-dum.
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You are a moron, though.
If someone is talking about obesity and mentions weight but no height, what are the chances that the example is supposed to be extraordinarily tall? Because they're trying to undermine their point? Ya see how it wouldn't make sense? You have a lot of trouble grasping simple points.
So, yeah, this is over, dum-dum.
I guess you've never worked in the healthcare field, been a personal trainer, reviewed a medical chart, or taken a statistics course. It's alright, the world needs more average people who don't think, because we didn't have enough already. The frustrated parting shots camouflaged as righteous indignation and schoolyard insults were a nice coup de grâce, too.
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I guess you've never worked in the healthcare field, been a personal trainer, reviewed a medical chart, or taken a statistics course. It's alright, the world needs more average people who don't think, because we didn't have enough already. The frustrated parting shots camouflaged as righteous indignation and schoolyard insults were a nice coup de grâce, too.
They weren't camouflaged as anything. I flat out called you a liar and a moron. BTW,congrats on the poor attempt at being dismissively nonchalant when you weren't able to keep your argument consistent over the course of a two page thread ::)
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They weren't camouflaged as anything. I flat out called you a liar and a moron. BTW,congrats on the poor attempt at being dismissively nonchalant when you weren't able to keep your argument consistent over the course of a two page thread ::)
But you didn't prove anything you said, which by definition makes you a failure, or someone who can't form a credible case against someone. That you got upset and called me names at the end only underscores that you didn't reach the objectives you set out to achieve, namely proving me wrong in any way. You are an ace at misquotations and straw men, though (not the poster).
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But you didn't prove anything you said, which by definition makes you a failure, or someone who can't form a credible case against someone. That you got upset and called me names at the end only underscores that you didn't reach the objectives you set out to achieve, namely proving me wrong in any way. You are an ace at misquotations and straw men, though (not the poster).
Ok. So, let's start at step one to see how wrong I am. When the other poster brought up 300 lb 80-year olds, you believe that he was likely talking about 6'8" 80 year olds? Since he didn't mention a height in his very brief post, do you think it was more likely or less likely that he was talking about average height people? For a normal adult, is it impossible to tell from the context of his post? ???
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Ok. So, let's start at step one to see how wrong I am. When the other poster brought up 300 lb 80-year olds, you believe that he was likely talking about 6'8" 80 year olds? Since he didn't mention a height in his very brief post, do you think it was more likely or less likely that he was talking about average height people? For a normal adult, is it impossible to tell from the context of his post? ???
I'm not going to repost what I posted higher up on this page, Al. You're asking me to treat you like a special needs student and I'm not paid to post here, as you well know. We both know you hit a cul de sac 8 posts ago. Don't make this harder than it has to be.
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I'm not going to repost what I posted higher up on this page, Al. You're asking me to treat you like a special needs student and I'm not paid to post here, as you well know. We both know you hit a cul de sac 8 posts ago. Don't make this harder than it has to be.
You're saying that I didn't prove you wrong, when I literally posted you saying the opposite of what you claimed you posted. You say I'm asking you to treat me like a special needs student, while what you are actually doing is hiding in nonspecificity. You make a vague incorrect statement and then circle back around when it's proven wrong. I'm just trying to get you to be specific about what you mean, so we can actually have a debate like normal adults, which you claim you want. I suspect that's not actually what you want, but on the off-chance it is, it would be helpful to know what you actually mean. You've literally posted dozens of times today, so spare me the "I'm too busy" routine. You haven't clarified any of the stuff I asked you in my last post.
Obviously, answering simple questions and actually solidifying your argument would be beneath you, though. ::)
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You're saying that I didn't prove you wrong, when I literally posted you saying the opposite of what you claimed you posted. You say I'm asking you to treat me like a special needs student, while what you are actually doing is hiding in nonspecificity. You make a vague incorrect statement and then circle back around when it's proven wrong. I'm just trying to get you to be specific about what you mean, so we can actually have a debate like normal adults, which you claim you want. I suspect that's not actually what you want, but on the off-chance it is, it would be helpful to know what you actually mean. You've literally posted dozens of times today, so spare me the "I'm too busy" routine. You haven't clarified any of the stuff I asked you in my last post.
Obviously, answering simple questions and actually solidifying your argument would be beneath you, though. ::)
I understand that by posting an uncharacteristically long post and justifying the unjustifiable to yourself, you'll feel like you walked away from this one-sided conversation with your head high as the clear winner. It's what all liberals are told to do, i.e. do their very best rather than what other people expect them to actually do and still feel like they really made a difference. Why would I want to mess with that delicate construct of your imagination? I'm a nice guy, Al. I don't call people names unless there's a reason, and it's rarely on the tail end of an argument I just lost. Try it, sometime. How can it hurt to be a better person?
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Al just give it up. You can't have a level headed conversation with someone who is never wrong. From weight loss, to Eminem, the death of John McCain, to the new movie about Joe Weider. Kwon3 has the final say. It's best to stay quiet and let him post. All day. Every day....
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Al just give it up. You can't have a level headed conversation with someone who is never wrong. From weight loss, to Eminem, the death of John McCain, to the new movie about Joe Weider. Kwon3 has the final say. It's best to stay quiet and let him post. All day. Every day....
Thanks, nether. I knew you'd have my back on this one.
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I understand that by posting an uncharacteristically long post and justifying the unjustifiable to yourself, you'll feel like you walked away from this one-sided conversation with your head high as the clear winner.
Nice try.
It's what all liberals are told to do, i.e. do their very best rather than what other people expect them to actually do and still feel like they really made a difference. Why would I want to mess with that delicate construct of your imagination? I'm a nice guy, Al. I don't call people names unless there's a reason, and it's rarely on the tail end of an argument I just lost. Try it, sometime. How can it hurt to be a better person?
::) Ooh. This was certainly a burn. I simply asked you to clarify what you meant so you would stop backpedaling, but I guess you can't take time out of your busy schedule of posting on this board to continue posting on this board. Not transparent at all. ::) You're full of shit and your argument was poor. If you want to clarify your points (which you haven't done elsewhere in this thread), I'm ready to debate like a normal adult. Otherwise, you can do the same transparent backpedaling and tapdancing that you do whenever anyone challenges your bullshit.
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Nice try.
::) Ooh. This was certainly a burn. I simply asked you to clarify what you meant so you would stop backpedaling, but I guess you can't take time out of your busy schedule of posting on this board to continue posting on this board. Not transparent at all. ::) You're full of shit and your argument was poor. If you want to clarify your points (which you haven't done elsewhere in this thread), I'm ready to debate like a normal adult. Otherwise, you can do the same transparent backpedaling and tapdancing that you do whenever anyone challenges your bullshit.
Yes, Al. We're all very impressed that you can structure a post with several quotes in it. It takes some getting used to and maybe a few edits but it looks like you definitely know what you're talking about. I've revised my original theory that you're a well-meaning but ignorant simpleton who loves to argue for the sake of arguing. You're actually a very perceptive, well-adjusted, erudite, and impressive guy who oozes gravitas and worldliness.
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Al just give it up. You can't have a level headed conversation with someone who is never wrong. From weight loss, to Eminem, the death of John McCain, to the new movie about Joe Weider. Kwon3 has the final say. It's best to stay quiet and let him post. All day. Every day....
Haha, that hip hop thread was actually one of the threads I was thinking of when I said he likes to backpedal. He changed his argument in literally every post. I get that his thing is to be vague and then try to finesse that into a new argument when he's proven wrong.
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Haha, that hip hop thread was actually one of the threads I was thinking of when I said he likes to backpedal. He changed his argument in literally every post. I get that his thing is to be vague and then try to finesse that into a new argument when he's proven wrong.
I'm glad my previous posts stuck with you enough to remember them and use them as a reference. It shows you care about me and what I post. I wish I could return the favor, but alas, I don't read your posts unless you choose to reply to mine. In that case, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but you consistently let me down. I'm hoping you'll turn that around and show me my enthusiasm for you as a better poster isn't totally wrong. As in that thread, though, you've failed to make a case for any backpedaling, lying, misquotations, or any number of the other aspersions you cast on me and others here whenever you don't get your way. So...the jury's still out.
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Yes, Al. We're all very impressed that you can structure a post with several quotes in it. It takes some getting used to and maybe a few edits but it looks like you definitely know what you're talking about. I've revised my original theory that you're a well-meaning but ignorant simpleton who loves to argue for the sake of arguing. You're actually a very perceptive, well-adjusted, erudite, and impressive guy who oozes gravitas and worldliness.
Are these the insults you never use? ::) Meanwhile, it's pretty obvious that my edit had to do with pressing the back button and the 30 second delay on getbig, but, sure only idiots correct their posts. ::)
Meanwhile, you're still posting in this thread... you could easily answer the questions and we could have a debate like a normal adult.
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Are these the insults you never use? ::) Meanwhile, it's pretty obvious that my edit had to do with pressing the back button and the 30 second delay on getbig, but, sure only idiots correct their posts. ::)
Meanwhile, you're still posting in this thread... you could easily answer the questions and we could have a debate like a normal adult.
No, Al. I simply reply to your posts at roughly the same cadence you do. That's how adults converse, in real-time and with minimal delays to make sure the flow of the conversation doesn't lapse into desuetude or lose its momentum. You should know, considering most of your posts here are dedicated to fomenting unrest among other users or arguing them into leaving the thread. When that fails, there's always your trusty lego box with insults you learned in grade school. I'm afraid neither intimidates me very much, though.
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I'm glad my previous posts stuck with you enough to remember them and use them as a reference. It shows you care about me and what I post.
That's one way to look at it.However, a more accurate way would be that you made an impression as a moron and a liar. I specifically said that you made a negative impression in my last post, so I'm not sure how you could confuse that with caring.
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That's one way to look at it.However, a more accurate way would be that you made an impression as a moron and a liar. I specifically said that you made a negative impression in my last post, so I'm not sure how you could confuse that with caring.
Well, that's your perception. But then, we've established that you see and believe what you want to see, rather than what's actually there. Which, by definition, is the nature of delusion.
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No, Al. I simply reply to your posts at roughly the same cadence you do. That's how adults converse, in real-time and with minimal delays to make sure the flow of the conversation doesn't lapse into desuetude or lose its momentum. You should know, considering most of your posts here are dedicated to fomenting unrest among other users or arguing them into leaving the thread. When that fails, there's always your trusty lego box with insults you learned in grade school. I'm afraid neither intimidates me very much, though.
Very few people respond to message boards in real time. Most people have lives . But, again, nice try.
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Well, that's your perception. But then, we've established that you see and believe what you want to see, rather than what's actually there. Which, by definition, is the nature of delusion.
Established? By ignoring simple questions? How did we establish this?
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Very few people respond to message boards in real time. Most people have lives . But, again, nice try.
A cursory scan of various arguments ongoing in different threads on the first page suggest your analysis is as flawed as ever, Al. Conversations are conversations, whether on message boards or off. I'm not sure what you define as having a life, as that's a nebulous concept. One man's life is another man's lunch break. Either way, it's of no relevance to the discussion.
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Established? By ignoring simple questions? How did we establish this?
*waves hand across this thread*
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A cursory scan of various arguments ongoing in different threads on the first page suggest your analysis is as flawed as ever, Al. Conversations are conversations, whether on message boards or off. I'm not sure what you define as having a life, as that's a nebulous concept. One man's life is another man's lunch break. Either way, it's of no relevance to the discussion.
No, it doesn't. There are often breaks of several hours to days between posts on message boards, which is one of the reasons a thread of a few pages can go on for several days. Almost no one sits patiently waiting on new posts on message boards to reply immediately. ::)
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No, it doesn't. There are often breaks of several hours to days between posts on message boards, which is one of the reasons a thread of a few pages can go on for several days. Almost no one sits patiently waiting on new posts on message boards to reply immediately. ::)
Other than us two, you mean.
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Other than us two, you mean.
Yeah, that was implied. ::) You seem to live on this board, but even in threads I'm active in, I don't usually post 10-20 times over the course of an hour, and I'm looking at other sites in between posting in this thread.
I am honestly hoping you will start a "normal adult" debate soon. Based on what you posted, it must be killing you to lob those childish insults. I'm more interested in a real debate about the original point of contention. I also know you could never go through with it, so this bs is fine.
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Yeah, that was implied. ::) You seem to live on this board, but even in threads I'm active in, I don't usually post 10-20 times over the course of an hour, and I'm looking at other sites in between posting in this thread.
I am honestly hoping you will start a "normal adult" debate soon. Based on what you posted, it must be killing you to lob those childish insults. I'm more interested in a real debate about the original point of contention. I also know you could never go through with it, so this bs is fine.
I don't agree with your perceptions of my online time, Al, and I don't see anything to corroborate it, either. As you know, people can multitask and do other things besides posting. Or maybe you didn't know and I'm teaching you something new. Try it sometime, it'll help relieve your stress at work, assuming you're employed and have a work station as your main work tool. I'm not sure where you come up with these ideas, but I'm afraid I'm not going to validate them for you. What's true in your head isn't true in anyone else's necessarily. That's something you seem to have problems grappling with, and I suspect the delusion I referred to earlier is the reason. You believe what you want to believe, regardless of what's actually true of anything. You also seem to bear a great deal of aggression towards perfect strangers and people who don't agree with you views. It seems to suggest you suffer from anti-social tendencies, though I would leave an actual diagnostic to people who have the training.
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I don't agree with your perceptions of my online time, Al, and I don't see anything to corroborate it, either. As you know, people can multitask and do other things besides posting. Or maybe you didn't know and I'm teaching you something new. Try it sometime, it'll help relieve your stress at work, assuming you're employed and have a work station as your main work tool. I'm not sure where you come up with these ideas, but I'm afraid I'm not going to validate them for you. What's true in your head isn't true in anyone else's necessarily. That's something you seem to have problems grappling with, and I suspect the delusion I referred to earlier is the reason. You believe what you want to believe, regardless of what's actually true of anything. You also seem to bear a great deal of aggression towards perfect strangers and people who don't agree with you views. It seems to suggest you suffer from anti-social tendencies, though I would leave an actual diagnostic to people who have the training.
You just said that you respond to posts immediately and you've made nearly 100 posts today. You've been at it for most of the day, so that's a strong indication you don't have much else going on.
Of course, I'm sure you didn't just say that, you said the opposite, you meant something you haven't even posted yet, but you can't clarify it because I might twist your words. ;)
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You just said that you respond to posts immediately and you've made nearly 100 posts today. You've been at it for most of the day, so that's a strong indication you don't have much else going on.
Of course, I'm sure you didn't just say that, you said the opposite, you meant something you haven't even posted yet, but you can't clarify it because I might twist your words. ;)
I don't keep track of my posting frequency. I'm glad you're doing it for me, so I can know how much or how little I posted. That's appreciated.
I'm not seeing the relevance of that factor in this conversation, Al. I also disagree that it tells you anything more than what it tells you, namely how many posts I made today.
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I don't keep track of my posting frequency. I'm glad you're doing it for me, so I can know how much or how little I posted. That's appreciated.
I'm not seeing the relevance of that factor in this conversation, Al. I also disagree that it tells you anything more than what it tells you, namely how many posts I made today.
No, posting a lot-typically long-winded posts- and then specifically saying that you do, in fact, wait on the site for new posts so you can respond immediately like they are a real-time conversation does say a lot about how little you've got going on otherwise. It's one thing to be an especially active poster, but the waiting for posts to respond in real time part kinda confirms that your life revolves around this board. It isn't how most people approach posting on this board. I looked at your post count after you claimed you were too busy to respond to the questions I posed earlier. I was legit surprised by how high your daily post count was. You can post however much you want, but the things you said were pretty strong indicators that, at this point in your life, posting here is one of your main priorities. And I seriously doubt it has anything to do with an ability to multi-task.
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No, posting a lot-typically long-winded posts- and then specifically saying that you do, in fact, wait on the site for new posts so you can respond immediately like they are a real-time conversation does say a lot about how little you've got going on otherwise. It's one thing to be an especially active poster, but the waiting for posts to respond in real time part kinda confirms that your life revolves around this board. It isn't how most people approach posting on this board. I looked at your post count after you claimed you were too busy to respond to the questions I posed earlier. I was legit surprised by how high your daily post count was. You can post however much you want, but the things you said were pretty strong indicators that, at this point in your life, posting here is one of your main priorities. And I seriously doubt it has anything to do with an ability to multi-task.
I don't think anything you wrote there is true, as it's consistently absent of any corroboration or substantiation that isn't opinion- or perception-based. In other words, you haven't brought anything new, original, or factual to the table. You're basically in an echo chamber, agreeing with your own posts and glad-handing your gimmick friend Stan who's unfortunately averse to posting on his real account, as is the norm on here.
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I don't think anything you wrote there is true, as it's consistently absent of any corroboration or substantiation that isn't opinion- or perception-based. In other words, you haven't brought anything new, original, or factual to the table. You're basically in an echo chamber, agreeing with your own posts and glad-handing your gimmick friend Stan who's unfortunately averse to posting on his real account, as is the norm on here.
Yeah, well, you've claimed quoting your own posts is twisting your words, so you'll have to understand if I take this with a grain of salt.
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Yeah, well, you've claimed quoting your own posts is twisting your words, so you'll have to understand if I take this with a grain of salt.
No, Al, I didn't claim that, either. I claimed you don't know how to read because you misquote me, which you often do when things don't go your way. I think you'd be a lot more successful and convincing if you'd just stick to the facts, rather than writing your own. The childish name-calling doesn't really help your case, either.
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I believe intense exercise burns calories for way past the activity duration. Call it a hyped metabolism but I lose weight doing intense cardio. If you take a guy who never runs and have him run hard for 5 miles a day he will lose weight at a faster rate than what the calorie count is for the 5 mile run. The old rule of thought was a pound of fat is 3500 calories. I don't know if that holds true today. I just know from prior experience when I was younger I could lose fat and not alter diet at a fast rate through hard cardio. Now I drink too much beer and at my age I can't reproduce what I did at a younger age. Having said that I'm not saying diet is not important.
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No, Al, I didn't claim that, either. I claimed you don't know how to read because you misquote me, which you often do when things don't go your way. I think you'd be a lot more successful and convincing if you'd just stick to the facts, rather than writing your own. The childish name-calling doesn't really help your case, either.
Yes, the childish name-calling, which you don't do, except when you do do it,because then you have a good reason. And sticking to the facts, which you don't want to address because you're too busy to address facts even though you've posted in this thread about a dozen times refusing to address them. And the misquotes, which are direct quotes from you that I've asked you to clarify if I'm actually misquoting, but that's beneath you. ::)
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Yes, the childish name-calling, which you don't do, except when you do do it,because then you have a good reason. And sticking to the facts, which you don't want to address because you're too busy to address facts even though you've posted in this thread about a dozen times refusing to address them. And the misquotes, which are direct quotes from you that I've asked you to clarify if I'm actually misquoting, but that's beneath you. ::)
See, now you get it. Why do you have to be so dogged, doggity al? There's always an easy and a hard way of doing things. It took four pages but I think we're finally getting somewhere.
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If you take a guy who never runs and have him run hard for 5 miles a day he will lose weight in at a faster rate than what the calorie count is for the 5 mile run.
That's actually one of the points made in the video. Activity is only a small portion of the calories you burn and even when you increase your activity, your body regulates your metabolism. If the runner is not on a calorie restricted diet, then his appetite will likely increase significantly.
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See, now you get it. Why do you have to be so dogged, doggity al? There's always an easy and a hard way of doing things. It took four pages but I think we're finally getting somewhere.
??? I said it pages ago, though. You're a liar and a moron.
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That's actually one of the points made in the video. Activity is only a small portion of the calories you burn and even when you increase your activity, your body regulates your metabolism. If the runner is not on a calorie restricted diet, then his appetite will likely increase significantly.
See? That's a good point you made. You mentioned BMR, activity level, the relationship between calorie deprivation and a corresponding increase in hunger, and how exercise in general isn't the only factor in weight loss. No insults, childish name-calling, misquotations, references to unrelated threads from weeks earlier, obsessive clinging to discredited statements, or personal invective anywhere. Now, had you done that on page 1, we could've had a nice conversation. But, as usual, you prefer the confrontational approach, as it suits your agenda when replying to me. Proof you're only insane when you want to be.
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??? I said it pages ago, though. You're a liar and a moron.
Yeah, I saw. It wasn't true then, either. I guess you're not familiar with sarcasm.
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Yeah, I saw. It wasn't true then, either. I guess you're not familiar with sarcasm.
Which would at least be minimally clever if it wasn't a follow up to you not recognizing sarcasm. ::)
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See? That's a good point you made. You mentioned BMR, activity level, the relationship between calorie deprivation and a corresponding increase in hunger, and how exercise in general isn't the only factor in weight loss. No insults, childish name-calling, misquotations, references to unrelated threads from weeks earlier, obsessive clinging to discredited statements, or personal invective anywhere. Now, had you done that on page 1, we could've had a nice conversation. But, as usual, you prefer the confrontational approach, as it suits your agenda when replying to me. Proof you're only insane when you want to be.
All of my points have been good. Yours are the ones that have been poor. In the middle of the thread, I offered a mulligan just to get you to clarify your points, but you refused. You were too busy posting in this thread, responding to me. :-\
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That's actually one of the points made in the video. Activity is only a small portion of the calories you burn and even when you increase your activity, your body regulates your metabolism. If the runner is not on a calorie restricted diet, then his appetite will likely increase significantly.
When I go to a recreational 5k road race I see the builds on the guys with good times. They are all thin and they all put in the miles every week. I know one guy who can break 18 minutes for a 5k any day of the week and he eats like a horse. Competitive swimmers are known for their appetites and their bodies are tight. I would say diet and exercise are both important to lose weight. People that diet hard without exercise lose a lot of muscle in the weight loss.
Clarence Bass has a lot of research in his many books on this very topic. He always wrote when he dieted hard and lifted he always had to sacrifice some muscle getting to his extreme low fat levels.
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Which would at least be minimally clever if it wasn't a follow up to you not recognizing sarcasm. ::)
You sounded awfully serious there, buddy. I didn't detect any irony or sarcasm at all. In fact, all I've picked up from all your posts is wanton aggression, morbid megalomania, obsessive time-stamp tracking, post counting (of mine), and a need to get the last word even though you're not particularly good at explaining what you're trying to say and end up resorting to ad hominems when you're repeatedly frustrated on here. I think what you're engaging in is called a rearguard action.
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All of my points have been good. Yours are the ones that have been poor. In the middle of the thread, I offered a mulligan just to get you to clarify your points, but you refused. You were too busy posting in this thread, responding to me. :-\
You've yet to make a point, Al. For over 90 minutes of arguing, that's a pretty low return on investment. I wouldn't want to be a shareholder in your business if that was your typical daily output.
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You've yet to make a point, Al. For over 90 minutes of arguing, that's a pretty low return on investment. I wouldn't want to be a shareholder in your business if that was your typical daily output.
Unlike you, I don't consider posting on getbig a job. However, you literally just congratulated me on making a good point a few posts ago. But I'm probably twisting your words. ::)
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You sounded awfully serious there, buddy.
Yes, that's why I said liar and moron.
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Unlike you, I don't consider posting on getbig a job. However, you literally just congratulated me on making a good point a few posts ago. But I'm probably twisting your words. ::)
I don't consider it a job. There you go, making up your own facts when you have none of your own. Same old Al Doggity, writing his own script and delighting in reading it back to himself.
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Yes, that's why I said liar and moron.
Right, but you've failed to prove either one. As usual.
You're like a guy who can't rap or sing, but he wants to do both.
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I don't consider it a job. There you go, making up your own facts when you have none of your own. Same old Al Doggity, writing his own script and delighting in reading it back to himself.
You're the one who spends all of his time on this site and seems to think posting can somehow garner a return on investment.
Right, but you've failed to prove either one. As usual.
I dont have to. You just did. You can't detect sarcasm.
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You're the one who spends all of his time on this site and seems to think posting can somehow garner a return on investment.
I dont have to. You just did. You can't detect sarcasm.
Oh, we're just making stuff up now? Well, why didn't you say so. I'll just do the classic replying to you with your own posts, then. That's always fun.
You're the one who spends all of his time on this site and seems to think posting can somehow garner a return on investment.
I dont have to. You just did. You can't detect sarcasm.
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When I go to a recreational 5k road race I see the builds on the guys with good times. They are all thin and they all put in the miles every week. I know one guy who can break 18 minutes for a 5k any day of the week and he eats like a horse. Competitive swimmers are known for their appetites and their bodies are tight. I would say diet and exercise are both important to lose weight. People that diet hard without exercise lose a lot of muscle in the weight loss.
Clarence Bass has a lot of research in his many books on this very topic. He always wrote when he dieted hard and lifted he always had to sacrifice some muscle getting to his extreme low fat levels.
I don't think theses are apples to apples comparisons. This is like saying bodybuilders eat tons of calories and they all have abs. Yeah, you can find plenty of examples that fall into these general categories, but when you get into specifics, it really just goes back to what a lot of people have been saying: diet is most important in losing weight. Everyone loses muscle when they diet down. People are always shocked by how big they're not when they do their first real cut.
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Oh, we're just making stuff up now? Well, why didn't you say so.
You've been making stuff up. It wouldn't have made any difference to what you're posting.
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You've been making stuff up. It wouldn't have made any difference to what you're posting.
You've been making stuff up. It wouldn't have made any difference to what you're posting.
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You've been making stuff up. It wouldn't have made any difference to what you're posting.
Oh shit! It appears as though we've reached the pinnacle of adult conversation- you're rubber and I'm glue??? Hahaha!!
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Oh shit! It appears as though we've reached the pinnacle of adult conversation- you're rubber and I'm glue??? Hahaha!!
Oh shit! It appears as though we've reached the pinnacle of adult conversation- you're rubber and I'm glue??? Hahaha!!
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I don't think anything you wrote there is true, as it's consistently absent of any corroboration or substantiation that isn't opinion- or perception-based. In other words, you haven't brought anything new, original, or factual to the table. You're basically in an echo chamber, agreeing with your own posts and glad-handing your gimmick friend Stan who's unfortunately averse to posting on his real account, as is the norm on here.
So here you are in the Cypress Hill Thread calling me a ratherbebig gimmick
I could quote you back your own posts too but I don't want to stress the ratherbebig-stan diego similarity of posting and vendetta-like digging. Your decoy's safe with me, bro.
And then here you are later, in the Aretha Franklin Thread saying that this is my only account
The gimmicks here have a sense of humor and post bodybuilding-related threads. You're always so serious and angry and I've never seen you post a thread or contribute to one other than random potshots, so I'd say this is your only account and you use it to feel better about your own life. How's that working out for you? Also, what do you think of Aretha's music?
And now here you are back to calling me a gimmick again
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So here you are in the Cypress Hill Thread calling me a ratherbebig gimmick
And then here you are later, in the Aretha Franklin Thread saying that this is my only account
And now here you are back to calling me a gimmick again
You mean I said something that was at odds with something else I wrote?
Stop the presses, man. It's only through your sapient insight that this breakthrough was possible.
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Maybe you can end the mystery and speculation by telling us who your real account is. Or we can just assume you're every account here, or that it's your only account. The possibilities are endless. See how that works?
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Maybe you can end the mystery and speculation by telling us who your real account is. Or we can just assume you're every account here, or that it's your only account. The possibilities are endless. See how that works?
Hey Suckmymuscle, still have those nunchucks hanging on the wall at Mom's house?
Is this how it works?
Loser.
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Hey Suckmymuscle, still have those nunchucks hanging on the wall at Mom's house?
Is this how it works?
Loser.
So basically you're not going to tell us who your main account is. Well, that settles that, Al.
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So basically you're not going to tell us who your main account is. Well, that settles that, Al.
This is my one and only account. I've been here since 2012. I post when I want to, not because I need too.
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This is my one and only account. I've been here since 2012. I post when I want to, not because I need too.
I don't believe that for a second. People who don't post here often don't track other peoples' posts for contradictions or count their posting volume or back random posters that sound and post just like them. Not buying it, dude. It's okay to have a gimmick. We've all thought about it at some point, but most of us don't ever actually get that invested in the forums and its users to go through with it.
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I don't believe that for a second. People who don't post here often don't track other peoples' posts for contradictions or count their posting volume or back random posters that sound and post just like them. Not buying it, dude. It's okay to have a gimmick. We've all thought about it at some point, but most of us don't ever actually get that invested in the forums and its users to go through with it.
Message boards are a lot like talk radio. Many people listen, but how many actually call in? You've accused me of being the gimmick of ratherbebig, nether animal, & now Al Doggity. Im 50 years old, I live in Pacific Beach, San Diego California. I met Nasser at the World Gym here. He smelled really bad. You post all day, every day in every thread. It's impossible to ignore you. Most of the time I just lurk and enjoy the joy of getbig. I think it's hilarious how serious you take this, suckmymuscle
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Message boards are a lot like talk radio. Many people listen, but how many actually call in? You've accused me of being the gimmick of ratherbebig, nether animal, & now Al Doggity. Im 50 years old, I live in Pacific Beach, San Diego California. I met Nasser at the World Gym here. He smelled really bad. You post all day, every day in every thread. It's impossible to ignore you. Most of the time I just lurk and enjoy the joy of getbig. I think it's hilarious how serious you take this, suckmymuscle
Al, I think this thread has reached the point of diminishing returns. Your fake autobiographical snapshot and fantastic claims of having met a Pro don't impress me. At the end of the day, you're upset because my posts bruised your fragile ego ten days ago and you're still not over it. You've taken this to a level that most people could consider unhealthy and obsessive. I'm not here to fix you. You're a big boy and you're going to have to get over it, because I'm going to post whether you like it or not, as much or as little as I want. :-*
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So basically you're not going to tell us who your main account is. Well, that settles that, Al.
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Frying pan. Your turn.
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Al, I think this thread has reached the point of diminishing returns. Your fake autobiographical snapshot and fantastic claims of having met a Pro don't impress me. At the end of the day, you're upset because my posts bruised your fragile ego ten days ago and you're still not over it. You've taken this to a level that most people could consider unhealthy and obsessive. I'm not here to fix you. You're a big boy and you're going to have to get over it, because I'm going to post whether you like it or not, as much or as little as I want. :-*
Suckmymuscle welcome back, seriously. I only have 512 posts in 8 years, take a break from typing & find one post of mine where I was defending Al Doggity, ratherbebig or netheranimal. All of my posts are about random shit, sometimes months apart. No one cares how much you post here, but you are the one that obsessed with this site
Loser.
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Suckmymuscle welcome back, seriously. I only have 512 posts in 8 years, take a break from typing & find one post of mine where I was defending Al Doggity, ratherbebig or netheranimal. All of my posts are about random shit, sometimes months apart. No one cares how much you post here, but you are the one that obsessed with this site
Loser.
You don't have any friends, man. If you did, you'd be talking with them off the Internet. I think you mean to say you have people whom you like on here and get offended or upset when someone disagrees or argues with them. That's what I mean when I say you're way too invested to pass the normality litmus test. Again, not our problem. There's all sorts of people here, including mentally deranged ones. That would be you, the guy who posts on a fake account to call other people losers in random threads and quotes things back to them from two weeks ago because he notices a discrepancy. The space between your posts is because this is your gimmick account, because you're afraid to speak your mind on your main profile.
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You don't have any friends, man. If you did, you'd be talking with them off the Internet. I think you mean to say you have people whom you like on here and get offended or upset when someone disagrees or argues with them. That's what I mean when I say you're way too invested to pass the normality litmus test. Again, not our problem. There's all sorts of people here, including mentally deranged ones. That would be you, the guy who posts on a fake account to call other people losers in random threads and quotes things back to them from two weeks ago because he notices a discrepancy. The space between your posts is because this is your gimmick account, because you're afraid to speak your mind on your main profile.
But according to my profile, Ive been logged on for 77 days. How do I post if I'm Al's gimmick?
Hello Stan Diego August 29, 2018, 08:42:44 PM *
Show unread posts since last visit.
Show new replies to your posts.
Total time logged in: 77 days, 2 hours and 32 minutes.
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But according to my profile, Ive been logged on for 77 days. How do I post if I'm Al's gimmick?
Hello Stan Diego August 29, 2018, 08:42:44 PM *
Show unread posts since last visit.
Show new replies to your posts.
Total time logged in: 77 days, 2 hours and 32 minutes.
But according to browsers, you can be in multiple places at the same time on the Internet. I know, incredible, huh? The things technology let you do.
Next, you'll tell me it's not possible to log on here from your phone and from a desktop at the same time.
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But according to browsers, you can be in multiple places at the same time on the Internet. I know, incredible, huh? The things technology let you do.
Next, you'll tell me it's not possible to log on here from your phone and from a desktop at the same time.
This is amazing! My first real getbig argument. Maybe if one of the moderators reads this thread, they can confirm that Al Doggity And Stan Diego have different IP addresses.
Loser.
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This is amazing! My first real getbig argument. Maybe if one of the moderators reads this thread, they can confirm that Al Doggity And Stan Diego have different IP addresses.
Loser.
I'm starting to believe you really are 50 years old. Apparently you've never heard of proxies or VPNs. Is there anyone here that doesn't use one, really? Even some of the mods do. I don't think you're going to win this argument, man. But if you want to keep replying with the same word til 10 a.m. your time, be my guest. I'm a night owl anyway.
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Look here's a post I made 3 years ago about living in San Diego & meeting Nasser. I did it just in case an argument like this came up
Rick is still the owner. Originally it was a Gold's Gym. I've lived in Pacific Beach for 20 years, and live minutes away from the gym. Used to see Nasser in there all of the time... Dude was a giant, seeing him in person I couldn't believe how big he was
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Really impressive stuff.
I'm sold. Sounds legit.
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(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/62291959/ohh-fuck-not-this-shit-again.jpg)
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(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/62291959/ohh-fuck-not-this-shit-again.jpg)
This was me in this thread:
(https://media.giphy.com/media/LDv21bZ2DHdhm/giphy.gif)(http://78.media.tumblr.com/89cdb4b284757804d4ac12c954255800/tumblr_p5xl5ghCtS1x6lumfo1_500.gif)
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This was me in this thread:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=426446.0;attach=470293;image)
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No idea who that is but he's definitely someone who doesn't need advice on weight loss.
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Loser. :-*
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Nutrition. I can get anyone to lose weight without ever doing a single exercise by just manipulating their macro's AND MICRONUTRIENTS. But if I have a fatal that loves to eat and he or she goes to the gym, it will be very difficult and in some cases impossible to out train a shifty diet.