We have enough problems with the people who already live on Earth, and when they do officially disclose ETs they’ll be in a rush to send them my tax dollars too.
We have enough problems with the people who already live on Earth, and when they do officially disclose ETs they’ll be in a rush to send them my tax dollars too.
If we've had so many visits from Aliens so far, why aren't the aliens doing anything of note.
They've been scouting and observing us for ages.
Maybe they have done smaller things like grabbing some peeps for examinations and such and replacing people with Gorns, but why haven't they invaded or colonized.
People have been spotting these UFOs for ages now and still no decision regarding Earth. Scouting around in the 60s and 70s and still scouting around in 2019.
What's your deal Martian Marvin?
Get your thumbs out of your asses and invade already! Sweden is barely holding on!
They’re probably laughing at us & the utter Mess Going on
And Thinking Fuck they’re stupid we don’t want any part of that Nonsense
In all seriousness though, why scout us for so long and nothing?
If we've had so many visits from Aliens so far, why aren't the aliens doing anything of note.
LOL
Would love to be a fly on the wall inside one of their scouting UFOs listening to their dialogue when they're observing us...
Look at those silly liberals!
In all seriousness though, why scout us for so long and nothing?
It's been ages? If they think we're so inept and worthless why even care?
Why even scout in 2019?
It's not like we've evolved in 100s of years.
If we've had so many visits from Aliens so far, why aren't the aliens doing anything of note.
If we've had so many visits from Aliens so far, why aren't the aliens doing anything of note.
They've been scouting and observing us for ages.
Maybe they have done smaller things like grabbing some peeps for examinations and such and replacing people with Gorns, but why haven't they invaded or colonized.
People have been spotting these UFOs for ages now and still no decision regarding Earth. Scouting around in the 60s and 70s and still scouting around in 2019.
What's your deal Martian Marvin?
Get your thumbs out of your asses and invade already! Sweden is barely holding on!
This is official disclosure.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7474455/Navy-confirms-three-spectacular-videos-appearing-UFOs-genuine.html
Do you do anything when you see ants?You just ignore them as they are so far beneath us.People have no comprehension just how dumb we will be even by our own standards when the singularity hits in the next 30-100 years or so.Once machines develop inteligence on a par with us, even if they never went higher iq than us, and they will, they can compute a mlllion times faster than the human brain, in a week to us, they can make thousands of years worth of human progress.Now imagine an alien civ that went through a singularity type of event thousands if not millions of years ago.These craft seen are literally breaking the laws of physics as we know them.
Yeah i inspected anthills and ants in general 40+ years ago and haven't done so in 40+ years.
I do not expect the ants to have done anything of note in these 40+ years, but these UFOs scout us each and every year and have done so for many many years.
So some black objects were seen by pilots who didn't know what they were- and that leads to aliens secretly inhabiting earth.
I love the internet, haha
The objects were going from 70000 feet to 50 feet in less than 2 seconds.That breaks all known laws of physics and is considered impossible with our current knowledge.secret tech we have been hiding for 70 plus years?Doubtful.This is one case you need to read up on before commenting.Whole naval and airforce teams have come forward to back this up with video, radar, eye witness accounts and is now backed officially by the navy itself, it was taken so seriously the president himself was briefed on it and interviewed twice about it, to which he gave vague and cryptic answers.
"all known laws of physics" lol. Umm, they get revised about every 50 years. The "ether theory" of space existed until the late 1800's, when the Michelson-Morley Experiment proved it was BS.
When Niels Bohr proposed the quantum explanation of the spectral lines for a gas discharge tube, that changed the entire base of Newtonian mechanics that was about 250 years old.
When Einstein introduced the Special Theory of Relativity that changed everything we knew about time and space.
When Cerenkov radiation was discovered, Einstein's absolute speed limit of light was proven to not always be true. The list goes on. Quantum tunneling, wave particle duality, etc.
An object that enters our atmosphere and behaves in ways we do not understand is simply an unidentified flying object. Until a species lands and says hi- no, there aren't interstellar boogeymen piloting them, lol Makes for great fantasies for a bored populace though...
Great stuff and makes you wonder, what is out there?
"all known laws of physics" lol. Umm, they get revised about every 50 years. The "ether theory" of space existed until the late 1800's, when the Michelson-Morley Experiment proved it was BS.
When Niels Bohr proposed the quantum explanation of the spectral lines for a gas discharge tube, that changed the entire base of Newtonian mechanics that was about 250 years old.
When Einstein introduced the Special Theory of Relativity that changed everything we knew about time and space.
When Cerenkov radiation was discovered, Einstein's absolute speed limit of light was proven to not always be true. The list goes on. Quantum tunneling, wave particle duality, etc.
An object that enters our atmosphere and behaves in ways we do not understand is simply an unidentified flying object. Until a species lands and says hi- no, there aren't interstellar boogeymen piloting them, lol Makes for great fantasies for a bored populace though...
Let all the children boogie.
"all known laws of physics" lol. Umm, they get revised about every 50 years. The "ether theory" of space existed until the late 1800's, when the Michelson-Morley Experiment proved it was BS.
When Niels Bohr proposed the quantum explanation of the spectral lines for a gas discharge tube, that changed the entire base of Newtonian mechanics that was about 250 years old.
When Einstein introduced the Special Theory of Relativity that changed everything we knew about time and space.
When Cerenkov radiation was discovered, Einstein's absolute speed limit of light was proven to not always be true. The list goes on. Quantum tunneling, wave particle duality, etc.
An object that enters our atmosphere and behaves in ways we do not understand is simply an unidentified flying object. Until a species lands and says hi- no, there aren't interstellar boogeymen piloting them, lol Makes for great fantasies for a bored populace though...
Do you do anything when you see ants?You just ignore them as they are so far beneath us.People have no comprehension just how dumb we will be even by our own standards when the singularity hits in the next 30-100 years or so.Once machines develop inteligence on a par with us, even if they never went higher iq than us, and they will, they can compute a mlllion times faster than the human brain, in a week to us, they can make thousands of years worth of human progress.Now imagine an alien civ that went through a singularity type of event thousands if not millions of years ago.These craft seen are literally breaking the laws of physics as we know them.
Maybe its just an englishman in New York
People just are not getting what is in these videos.
An object that can fly underwater at thousands of miles per hour, move 20,000 miles per hour, has no control surfaces, no visible means of propulsion, goes from 20,000 mph to 0 instantly without disintegrating, *does not even need to accelerate or decelerate*, *does not create sonic booms when moving at 20,000 miles per hour*, and has no wings.
The jump from our most advanced aircraft to the Wright brothers is smaller than our current most advanced aircraft to these things.
Verified by AWAC’s, aegis radar, the FA/18 radar, FLIR targeting pods and visual confirmation by the fighter pilots and at least one crew member on the AWACS. Real vehicles. 40 foot smooth tic tac shaped vehicles with two curved antennae like protrusions on the bottom.
This is as real as it gets.
The UFO phenomen seems to be legit as there are way too many cases to dismiss it BUT it's most likely not visitors from another planet.
Life is all about deception, coercion and survival, so I think the "visitors" are a bit more nefarious and intangible than many "fans" may like to admit.
The UFO phenomen seems to be legit as there are way too many cases to dismiss it BUT it's most likely not visitors from another planet.
Life is all about deception, coercion and survival, so I think the "visitors" are a bit more nefarious and intangible than many "fans" may like to admit.
There's no question that there are also physical crafts even originating from an unknown source but I assume that these "tangible assets" are a rarity.
Humans downing them may have been a lucky accident which propelled the people in the background forward tech-wise but only a few "profitable" insights have been made public - just technology-sideproducts to entertain, control and build more efficient weapons.
It would be cool if the black budget and secret underground bases really existed.
Nonetheless how do the extra-dimensional beings tie into the whole thing...
-are they the same as the physical beings?
-advanced competitors?
-are humans just cattle or do we have an ally that is not only interested in exploitation?
Humanity has long been infiltrated. If the case of Kylie Odom is not just based on insanity then life on earth is not a good thing.
http://www.pennrosegardens.com/blog/kyle-odoms-manifesto (http://www.pennrosegardens.com/blog/kyle-odoms-manifesto)
The CIA has made public documents about out of body travel. If this is not a ruse than there might be the possibility of a huge universe we're not aware of.
a UFO is exactly what it says, its unidentified, why do people always assume aliens?
Agreed - it’s Totally Beyond our realm of comprehension
What this craft is able to do - Staggering to say the Least.
There’s far far more questions than can be answered for sure,
Fascinating stuff.
Can some one post a link or YouTube video of it as the op posted
Isn’t working correctly for Me.
Thanks.
Desolate - Thank you
!! Fascinating stuff - more so as from US Navy
Build the wall........keep the aliens out !
More crap posted on Getbig. Right audience here to believe all manner of filt.
Those videos are not evidence of anything. Yet the Flotsam figure it must be aliens! ::)
"The aliens are coming."
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It's the latest hypersonic military technology being tested, you dorks. Why do you think these things are always spotted near military bases? There's an arms race of sorts going on right now, and states are determined to keep the technology secret so that it's not stolen by potentially hostile governments. There's hypersonic UAVs that can breach all weapons defense systems and travel at thousands of miles per hour; most superpowers are investing very heavily in this technology and you can read about it in official defense documents. The "aliens" nonsense is just the usual obfuscation tactics put out in order to confuse genius Getbiggers.
Tex.
you seem to be confused.The videos you are looking at are 2 million dollar flir cameras, some of the most accurate cameras on earth for capturing data on an object.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward-looking_infrared
Verified by AWAC’s, aegis radar, the FA/18 radar, FLIR targeting pods and visual confirmation by the fighter pilots and at least one crew member on the AWACS.Now confirmed by the navy itself so officially disclosure which is a first in 70 years since ufos first made news.
Saying these are just videos is dumb.
I am saying that something, maybe a light, is unidentified isn't a big deal. Zero evidence exists of any alien craft visiting our planet recently or in the past. Period. NO hard evidence. That means one
shouldn't believe all manner of crap about such reports. If the armed forces had something solid that would be different. They got absolutely nothing of interest.
so just to confirm, you think multiple top gun pilots visual sightings, aegis pilot sighting, multi million dollar flir camera tracking, aegis radar, FA/18 radar, the nimitz carrier because of it being put on highest security alert, the navy confirming for the first time ever the flir videos are real and the president being briefed on it,the new york times, the washington post, cnn etc are all staking their reputations because of a light?Do you even know how flir or radar works?You really need to get an idea of what we are talking about here.Scroll to 13:57
That is what I am saying. Zero interest. They got nothing. End of story. Videos are real but total waste of time to even consider....except for the naive on Getbig!
so you know better than top gun pilots, radar operators, flir experts, the navy, the post, the times, cnn and the presidents staff?You keep calling them videos, we have hard data from multiple sources and some of the most credible witnesses on earth.
the commander of the squadron, someone with years of training who was in one of the highest positions you can be in the air force in active combat.
Cmdr. David Fravor
One of the most experienced fighter pilots in American history.
In 2004, Cmdr. Fravor witnessed what came to be known as the Tic Tac UFO incident on a training run over the Pacific Ocean, 140 miles southwest of San Diego. At the time, he was stationed aboard the USS Nimitz as the commanding officer or Strike Fighter Squadron 41, also known as “The Black Aces.” The incident broke into the mainstream media after the New York Times republished a story reported by fellow UFO Festival presenter and investigative journalist George Knapp.
David Fravor enlisted in the Marine Corps at age 17. Two years later, he transferred to the Naval Academy. As a young midshipmen, Fravor did his first training aboard the USS Nimitz and dreamed of someday flying for the Navy — little did he know that 20 years later he would be in command of the same squadron he saw fly all those years earlier. A 24-year veteran in the U.S. military, Fravor retired from the U.S. Navy in 2006, after 18 years as a Navy jet pilot and five deployments in Iraq, beginning with Desert Storm.
Cmdr. Fravor now lives in New Hampshire with his wife, with whom he has two grown children.
Commander Fravor’s description of what he witnessed on November 14, 2004:
[excerpted from an ABC News interview]
“I can tell you, I think it was not from this world. I’ve seen pretty much about everything that I can see in that realm, and this was nothing close. I have never seen anything in my life, in my history of flying that has the performance, the acceleration—keep in mind this thing had no wings.
You know, you see a lot of interesting things. But to come up on something that’s a 40-foot-long white Tic Tac with no wings, that can move really in any random direction that it wants and go from hovering over the ocean to mirroring us to accelerating to the point where it just disappears—like, poof, then it was gone.”
its possible,but you have to take in to account we have been seeing these craft since the 1940s, so you have to believe we had that tech back then too.The only way we could have jumped hundreds or even thousands of years of technological advancement and completely smashed all known views of current physics is that we either found craft here on earth, or were helped by some non earthly civ.Either way it doesnt come from earth.These things literally are jumping from one point to another with no acceleration or deceleration, no sonic boom, nothing.Whoever has this can go to mars and back in a week.
The finding craft here on earth lines up with Bob Lazar is saying, and the wilson memo which was declassified a month or so ago, which was seen as the first official document to prove the existence of craft in 70 years.All this info is coming out at once and there must be a reason for it all.Lazar said 30 years ago these craft he worked on rotate and point with the bottom of craft where they want to go then go there.Thats exactly what one of the navy videos does, that was filmed 20 years later.Lazar said the craft were tiny, with a couple of seats made for people around 3-4 feet in height.Thats exactly what the wilson memo declassified from official government records says 30 years later.
https://richarddolanmembers.com/articles/article-ufo-leak-of-the-century-richard-dolan-analyzes-the-admiral-wilson-leak/&
Did Mr. Fravor invent the Bicep Supination Machine? I think not.
You're welcome.
As I mentioned in another thread, there is a television show devoted specifically to these encounters.
The show is on the History Channel. It is called Unidentified.
It ran for six episodes. The first season is over, but it is available On Demand for free.
This the show put together by Tom DeLonge, UFO enthusiast and former front man of Blink 182.
The show is hosted by Luis Elizondo. Elizondo is a former employee of the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSDI). He claims that he formerly headed the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) until the program was supposedly defunded.
AATIP was a secretive $22 million program initiated by the Defense Intelligence Agency in order to study Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), also known as UFOs. Many believe that the government is sill secretly funding the program.
https://www.history.com/shows/unidentified-inside-americas-ufo-investigation (https://www.history.com/shows/unidentified-inside-americas-ufo-investigation)
Lol. You still have nothing.
The naive seldom have a test of truth.
Thus many on Getbig believe almost anything.
Please don’t show blurry videos as evidence of anything substantial.
but this guy disagrees and thinks it was a light
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VIDEOS on their own today show nothing, literally everything can be faked.Its very VERY hard to bring together multiple highly credible witnesses, radar, flir cameras, the press, the navy, to all agree an incident happened a certain way.The fact this has exploded the way it has is because even with 70 years of video, some of it very compelling, is that video can ALWAYS be faked.You cant fake something on the scale this is at, and with all the data, witnesses and big names who have backed it.
YouTube is filled with a lot of crap videos making all manner of amazing claims.
What we need is hard evidence. Clear photos and videos of real objects plus items that weren't made here.
They would have to be tested and authenticated by science.
We can ask why so many believe stuff about UFOs etc. Bottom line is there is NO hard evidence.
Please shake your head and abandon the notion that what you watched was important. Plain rubbish.
"The aliens are coming."
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It's the latest hypersonic military technology being tested, you dorks. Why do you think these things are always spotted near military bases? There's an arms race of sorts going on right now, and states are determined to keep the technology secret so that it's not stolen by potentially hostile governments. There's hypersonic UAVs that can breach all weapons defense systems and travel at thousands of miles per hour; most superpowers are investing very heavily in this technology and you can read about it in official defense documents. The "aliens" nonsense is just the usual obfuscation tactics put out in order to confuse genius Getbiggers.
Tex.
do you have any video of Napoleon, Ghengis Khan or Jesus?We accept all 3 existed, even Jesus, though likely the miracles part got tacked on.Why?We have accounts from people who saw them.In this case we have more than just written accounts to verify they existed.The video, the flir infrared and all the data that comes with it, the radar, the testimony of some of the highest members of the navy and airforce, the navy itself, and even the worlds most powerful man was briefed on it and said "i think our great pilots would know (if they saw alien craft) and some of them really see things different from what we have seen in the past"
here is trump saying the pilots know what they saw&t
They’re Unidentified Flying Objects - Either from earth or Not
Point Being we Don’t Know.
Its the million dollar question.Something really is up though and I think we are about to find out.I see it playing out in 1 of the following scenarios
1) we have no fking clue where they come from and have no way of stopping them, with musk, bezos etc all going in to space its time to come out with it before they discover it and ask why this wasnt disclosed before.Maybe they have become a threat and the governments have decided we need to slowly know.
2)We got the tech from downed craft/craft left here from hundreds/thousands/millions of years ago, and have had it since the 40s-50s.The chinese and russians are now looking in to the tech and we need to be ready to start to mass produce these, so disclosure must come.Which explains the patent the navy just filed
https://patents.google.com/patent/US10144532B2/en
do you have any video of Napoleon, Ghengis Khan or Jesus?We accept all 3 existed, even Jesus, though likely the miracles part got tacked on.Why?We have accounts from people who saw them.In this case we have more than just written accounts to verify this exists.The video, the flir infrared and all the data that comes with it, the radar, the testimony of some of the highest members of the navy and airforce, the navy itself, and even the worlds most powerful man was briefed on it and said "i think our great pilots would know (if they saw alien craft) and some of them really see things different from what we have seen in the past"
here is trump saying the pilots know what they saw&t
Clearly you are full of crap. Not worth my time debating this issue with simpletons. Sorry.
Just 1 part of this involves one of the most decorated fighter pilots who has seen everything that can be seen, and this astounded him.
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but this guy disagrees and thinks it was a light
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=252350.0;attach=293470;image)
Vince, even the German Glocke is way less elusive than your bicep machine. :D
Vince's biceps machine is Earths Last stand against the Aliens!
"The Navy designates the objects contained in these videos as unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs),” Joe Gradisher, spokesperson for the deputy chief of naval operations for information warfare, told the Black Vault blog last week. The Black Vault is an online trove of government documents about potential UFOs and aliens, curated by enthusiasts.
Gradisher later repeated the statement to CNN, adding that the U.S. navy is being transparent about the objects for safety reasons.
“This is all about frequent incursions into our training ranges by UAPs,” he told CNN. “Those incursions present a safety hazard to the safe flight of our aviators and security of our operations.”
Global News: U.S. navy confirms UFO videos from Blink-182’s Tom DeLonge are real.
https://globalnews.ca/news/5923231/tom-delonge-ufo-videos-navy/
they've been doing this since the early 1940's, coincidentlally started just around the time we started building and testing nuclear weapons
most of the public is totally oblivious to this fact
Yup, the foo fighters were when it all started basically.
To me, the most amazing thing is the wording.
From the beginning, the government has always used the same line: "UFOs, whatever they are, do not present a threat to our airspace or national security."
Many people wondered about that wording. Why use the terms our airspace, or our national security?
People wanted a simple answer...
Are UFOs real or not?
And now, if you read their response to these NIMITZ encounters, look at their wording.
“This is all about frequent incursions into our training ranges by UAPs.” “Those incursions present a safety hazard to the safe flight of our aviators and security of our operations.”
The wording is no accident. What it is is a complete 180 degree reversal of the standard response we've been getting for over seventy years.
It is not an accident... and it is not a coincidence.
To me, the most amazing thing is the wording.
From the beginning, the government has always used the same line: "UFOs, whatever they are, do not present a threat to our airspace or national security."
Many people wondered about that wording. Why use the terms our airspace, or our national security?
People wanted a simple answer...
Are UFOs real or not?
And now, if you read their response to these NIMITZ encounters, look at their wording.
“This is all about frequent incursions into our training ranges by UAPs.” “Those incursions present a safety hazard to the safe flight of our aviators and security of our operations.”
The wording is no accident. What it is is a complete 180 degree reversal of the standard response we've been getting for over seventy years.
It is not an accident... and it is not a coincidence.
Vince's biceps machine is Earths Last stand against the Aliens!
Vince's biceps machine is Earths Last stand against the Aliens!
Vince's biceps machine is Earths Last stand against the Aliens!
Flight Commander Tex, PhD.
Army, that 'scientific' paper is genuinely a load of shit. It's not peer reviewed, their assumptions are ridiculous, the methodology more so, and, as they admit, they cannot draw any useful conclusions. All they can state is that 'these are indeed technologically advanced craft'. They have assigned 'rather liberal uncertainties' to unreliable observations, and produced nothing of value.
Furthermore, Michio Kaku quite rightly states in the video that there's two options to consider. One being that they are hypersonic drones (which I explained earlier are very real, advanced, and being developed constantly), or the other option: aliens! And the basis for his second option is that there's potentially billions of other Earth-like planets out there. Shall we whip out that rusty old razor of Occam for this one? The reason that these things are flying around at stupid speeds, pissing off pilots, is because they're being used by various states to spy on one-another.
Flight Commander Tex, PhD.
The objects dropped from 90000 feet to 50 feet in 2 seconds.Just think about that for a moment.That 1 simple move basically means that everything we know about the physical nature of this world is wrong.Saying this is 'hypersonic' is so far off what actually happened that I have nothing to compare the huge gulf between the definition of hypersonic and the speeds these things were showing.this isnt even getting to the part where they basically show no accleration or deceleration.or showed no visible means of propulsion.These things were not using the air to move, so they were not even flying, just actually think about that for a moment.Its why the navy changed it from unidentified FLYING object to unidentified AERIAL phenomena.
There is just so much here to digest its overwhelming.lets just look at the radar.Aircraft Carrier's radar chief has publicly spoken about what they observed. He was the one that scrambled the jets to intercept the so-called "Tic-Tac".
We have very advanced radar systems these days. He was operating the SPY-1 system IIRC. We're up to SPY-6 afaik. This system has no moving parts, is modular and is spread across many of the ships in a carrier group. They're networked. It provides a 3d image and can identify a softball sized object at 18 miles away. That's just some of what we know, I would think its true capabilities are classified.
The radar officer claimed the object reached speeds of approx 100K mph and pulled about 1,350 Gs. Humans are only capable of about 8 Gs.
The object also flew into, and under water. He confirmed this by communicating with carrier group submarines that picked it up on SONAR.
He also said his radar showed a formation of about 100 of these crafts. I.e., they ain't experimental, they're operational.
Again the navy has confirmed these incidents happened and are worried for fhe safety of their own aircraft.Trump has confirmed what the pilots say they saw and that he doesnt doubt their accounts.We cant go any higher now on earth for confirmation.
Either that or they made it all up with CGI to keep people distracted from whats really going on in the world
its exactly the reason why all conspiracy theories exist, its to keep people who think they are cleverer than everyone else busy
The problem with this is you have to have all the pilots, the radar operators, the 5000 on the nimitz, the top brass of the navy and even the president in on it.The much simpler explanation is it played out exactly as it is depicted and now all these private companies are heading in to space its better to get in front of it before they are left with egg on their faces.
The objects dropped from 90000 feet to 50 feet in 2 seconds.Just think about that for a moment.That 1 simple move basically means that everything we know about the physical nature of this world is wrong.Saying this is 'hypersonic' is so far off what actually happened that I have nothing to compare the huge gulf between the definition of hypersonic and the speeds these things were showing.this isnt even getting to the part where they basically show no accleration or deceleration.or showed no visible means of propulsion.These things were not using the air to move, so they were not even flying, just actually think about that for a moment.Its why the navy changed it from unidentified FLYING object to unidentified AERIAL phenomena.
There is just so much here to digest its overwhelming.lets just look at the radar.Aircraft Carrier's radar chief has publicly spoken about what they observed. He was the one that scrambled the jets to intercept the so-called "Tic-Tac".
We have very advanced radar systems these days. He was operating the SPY-1 system IIRC. This system has no moving parts, is modular and is spread across many of the ships in a carrier group. They're networked. It provides a 3d image and can identify a softball sized object at 18 miles away. That's just some of what we know, I would think its true capabilities are classified.
The radar officer claimed the object reached speeds of approx 100K mph and pulled about 1,350 Gs. Humans are only capable of about 8 Gs.
The object also flew into, and under water. He confirmed this by communicating with carrier group submarines that picked it up on SONAR.
He also said his radar showed a formation of about 100 of these crafts. I.e., they ain't experimental, they're operational.
Again the navy has confirmed these incidents happened and are worried for fhe safety of their own aircraft.Trump has confirmed what the pilots say they saw and that he doesnt doubt their accounts.We cant go any higher now on earth for confirmation.
It's all easily explained...
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A high-ranking US Navy pilot has claimed a chilling "dark mass" was seen coming up from the depths of the ocean moments before a torpedo disappeared – 10 years before a world-famous incident.
Retired US Navy pilot Commander David Fravor first shot to public attention in 2017 after describing how his squadron witnessed a 737-sized object just under the surface of the water during training exercises in the Pacific Ocean, 160km off the coast of San Diego.
The incident – which happened in 2004 – became known as the USS Nimitz encounter after pilots then saw a tic-tac UFO in the skies near the mass. In an explosive new account, the pilot has shared another UFO mystery that has "come out of the woodwork" since his story first emerged.
Talking to Joe Rogan, Commander Fravor said another pilot once had a similar encounter in the late 1990s off the coast of Puerto Rico. He explained the pilot was flying a CH-53 and was going to pick up a BQM (an unmanned drone used by the US Air Force).
A diver was dropped into the water to hook it up and to then fly back, when something truly bizarre happened. "They’re 50 feet (15 metres) above the water, he sees this kind of dark mass coming up from the depths,” he added.
“As they hoist the BQM up, he’s looking at this thing going, ‘What the hell is that?’ And then it just goes back down underwater. "Once they pull the kid and the BQM out of the water, this object descends back into the depths.” The pilot thought the incident was “pretty weird” but, incredibly, the same thing happened a few months later.
Fravor said: “He’s out picking up a torpedo, they hook the diver up on the winch, and as they’re lowering him down, he sees this big mass. “He goes, ‘It’s not a submarine’, he’s seen submarines before, once you’ve seen a submarine you can’t confuse it with something else. "This big object, kind of circular, is coming up from the depths and he starts screaming through the intercom system to tell them to pull the diver up, and the diver’s only a few feet from the water.”
He continued: “They reverse the winch and the diver’s thinking: ‘What the hell is going on? ’"And all of a sudden he said the torpedo just got sucked down underwater, and the object just descended back down into the depths. "They never recovered it.” Commander Fravor said the helicopter pilot was adamant the torpedo “didn’t sink” as it “literally looked like it got sucked down”.
About as legit as it gets.The Squadron Co,one of the top 20 people at that time, telling you categorically what the video is showing that the navy itself has said is real and they do not know what is in it.
the Navy cant say anything, its a fictional entity, a person from the Navy said something..
Sometimes people say something is real .... just to get more moneyto prove it's real.
Or something like that!
It's all easily explained...
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lol @ “Niganda” :D
OCCAM's razor ..... "Entities should not be multiplied unnecessarily."
Someone with more intelligence than myself mentioned this someplace above.
I can slightly recall mentioning this subject while in school, but I had no idea what the hell they were trying to teach me ... nor do I have any idea what it means today .. nor how it is pertenant to this interesting discussion.
Will the individual with a bigger brain than mine .. Please elaborate.
We have enough problems with the people who already live on Earth, and when they do officially disclose ETs they’ll be in a rush to send them my tax dollars too.
Occams Razor
You leave your food on the sofa with your dog and leave the room, when you come back, the foods gone, now, did a burglar come in and steal the food or did the dog eat it, Occams razor says the dog ate it.
in short, the simplest answer is normall the right one..
Zimbaboonwe must be lower down on the map.
simplest answers in this case are backed up by the facts.The video shows the object moving away faster than any known craft we have, the video shows it has no propulsion and accelerates at speeds like nothing we have.The multiple witnesses of one of the highest ranked squadrons is about as good a witness as you will get for something that is in the air.The radar and infrared cameras on the planes are near impossible to fool, as is the radar on the nimitz.Also you dont ask the president about it unless you are sure on your facts, and he has been asked twice now by 2 different reporters.Nevermind the navy admitting the video is real and they do not know what the objects are in the video.For the objects to be mundane we need to throw out the video evidence, the radar, flir targeting pods, some of the highest ranking airforce pilots in the world as witnesses, and the expertise of the navy.
or, it was made up just to get the public to start thinking about "little green men" so they take their eye of the ball...
you dont make things up on that scale.Can you name anything that has been made up on this scale thats ever been discovered?That involved airforce, navy, whole aircraft carriers, the press and even the president?The president cant even get a blowjob anymore without it being public.
you dont make things up on that scale.Can you name anything that has been made up on this scale thats ever been discovered?That involved airforce, navy, whole aircraft carriers, the press and even the president?The president cant even get a blowjob anymore without it being public.
Those ET's are so advanced maybe they can give us their technologically advanced health care? :P
That is what I am saying. Zero interest. They got nothing. End of story. Videos are real but total waste of time to even consider....except for the naive on Getbig!
You’re a dumb bollocks. Even I am a hard skeptic and find this hard to discount. You dismiss it without hesitation though. No wonder you’ve always been a loser
No evidence = NO evidence. I don’t expect gullible people to accept this fact.
So we have things moving intelligently,at speeds and acceleration that break the laws of physics that are captured conclusively by
Video camera
Infrared
Radar from multiple sources
All the above the best of its kind tech wise in the world
And human eyes of some of the most trusted people in the world, these were the guys protecting the skies right after 9-11
Then add the Navy confirmed these event happened and they are worried these object could collide with their planes.
yes , they have said they have no idea what it is..
The guy who ran the program FOR THE PENTAGON to study these incidents is willing to say unequivocally that through the scientific methodologies used to measue the captured data, that these are aircraft displaying technology that neither the americans or any foreign power have.He is basically saying that on behalf off the pentagon.His personal opinion is that there is very compelling evidence that we are not alone.You dont have someone who headed a program for the pentagon, then go on CNN and say those things unless you have been cleared to say that and are sure about what you are saying.
so its an aircraft that science says cant fly...= compelling evidence for aliens.
so its an aircraft that science says cant fly...= compelling evidence for aliens.
No.The pentagons stance from the study is that they are aircraft with technology that the americans or any foreign power do not have.His PERSONAL belief not speaking for the government, as he isnt in it anymore, is that there is very compelling evidence that we are not alone.Read in to all that however you want.
Aircraft which our current understanding of science and technology says can't fly.again, same statement...our "current" understanding of science is the science we have
again, same statement...our "current" understanding of science is the science we have
Which still doesn't mean it cannot fly.
There are many things today which would seemed impossible in the past, or beyond our understanding.
thats almost identical to what you quoted
Yes, because you seemed confused by it the first time I posted it.Nobody seems to know where these objects/craft come from.Most popular theories seem to be:
1.us with tech that has been withheld for 70 years, since thats when the sightings date back to.
2.extraterrestrial craft, likely unmanned drone types
3.Us from the future
4.Interdimensional beings of some kind that live among us in different dimensions.
5.Another civ that lives deep in our oceans, we have only explored 3% or so?These craft have been tracked on sonar after disappearing off radar in to the water.
6.new tech that creates holograms while also fooling conventional radar, laser radar, infrared, flir cameras, the most advanced radar system in the world and the human eyes of some of the most trusted and experienced people in the skies.
Yes, because you seemed confused by it the first time I posted it.Nobody seems to know where these objects/craft come from.Most popular theories seem to be:
1.us with tech that has been withheld for 70 years, since thats when the sightings date back to.
2.extraterrestrial craft, likely unmanned drone types
3.Us from the future
4.Interdimensional beings of some kind that live among us in different dimensions.
5.Another civ that lives deep in our oceans, we have only explored 3% or so?These craft have been tracked on sonar after disappearing off radar in to the water.
6.new tech that creates holograms while also fooling conventional radar, laser radar, infrared, flir cameras, the most advanced radar system in the world and the human eyes of some of the most trusted and experienced people in the skies.
or 7. thety are faked to keep the public wondering and worrying about shite rather than whats really happening under their noses.
That would have to be due to number 6 imho.Like i said before you dont fake something in 2019 and get top gun pilots, whole battleship fleets, the navy and the pentagon to actively lie for you, while faking video, radar returns and infrared.Then have the president effectively lie by acknowledging he has been briefed on these incidents, and if your theory is correct, lie right on camera to the world and not confess it was faked.
but , but , they brought down the Twin Towers with explosives after first flying planes into them.
To send a few boats and planes out and fake a few videos is childs play
clever enough to pull off 9/11 but too dumb to fake a few vids?
The 9/11 conspiracy is just as ludicrous.At best a couple of people could have turned a blind eye to intel of a possible attack.Anything further is just fantasy.
and a couple of people could faked films and put them out witth a few people who are deemed cridible to back them up
Its no different than some redneck claiming he had been beamed up to a space ship, everyone laughs at them but when someone from the Navy says it, oh well, it must be true..
What basile, you and others are missing is it isnt just video.It was the complete tracking suite of a whole naval FLEET, not only that but the Nimitz fleet, which was the most advanced in the world in 2004 with the most advanced tracking radar.The videos synced up exactly what multiple ships were all tracking at the same time.If you think a whole fleet is just going to lie and get thousands of workers onboard these ships, planes, and in the naval offices, the pentagon etc to go along with the lie, then i really do not know what to say.
they got everyone to lie about Kennedy and 9/11, there must have been thousands involved
Same with Chemtrails and the moon landings
Come on, dont you realsie anything can be faked
Kennedy was shot by oswald alone and the evidence is conclusive.Was there a wider conspiracy where he was pushed towards shooting him?nobody knows.
We are getting in to the territory now where you are saying nothing can be proved.Did ronnie even win the 2000 olympia, was he even there?we only have video and photos, and they can be faked.All the eyewitneses could be in on the conspiracy and lying.so what do we have to go on?
if the Navy had been there we'd have arguably the most trustworthy entity in the world to verfiy ronnie.Not only could they have videod him, they could have got his infrared signature from the flir camera, captured him on radar.Then had the top navy workers verify he was there, the Navy itself could have verified it as a collective, the pentagon too, and the president could announce on tv he had heard about people seeing ronnie, and he believes the people in the navy that say they did.
the "Navy" cant do anything, its a fictional entity, ony people in the Navy can do something, and they are people..
Still, who is more trustworthy, palumbo, shawn ray,chic and co or the US Navy?what is more accurate for confirming the presence of a physical thing, a 480p olympia camera or a 2 million dollar flir camera and a multi billon dollar radar system?
how much funding goes into UFO research?
how much funding goes into UFO research?
That issue is mentioned in the video I posted.
A large amount of the US military budget is unaccounted for, going to departments which are above the clearance of even the President.
As crazy as it sounds, there are parts of the military and intelligence which are inaccessible to the President, as he is seen as a temporary employee.
Army, with respect, you're misunderstanding my point. The Navy wouldn't need to be 'in on it', and the pilots are likely telling the truth too. The pilot in the video you posted seems like a genuine guy. Let's assume the eyewitness accounts and the radar readings are accurate: this still doesn’t get us anywhere. Firstly, as I said earlier, the civilian population assigns a degree of credibility to these guys without really understanding their roles. It sounds impressive stating that he 'protected our skies after 9/11' but it’s got nothing to do with the fact that he wouldn't have a clue about various top-secret military/intelligence operations. You wouldn't require a pilot to fly these things as they couldn't handle the g-force, and you wouldn't have pilots developing the technology required, either.
It's also possible that what they witnessed was the latest Chinese or Russian technology and that's why they were so confused. Forgive how unorganised and rambling this is but let's address probably the most important point first, namely the claim that these things 'break the laws of physics'. They don't. At least, nobody has put forward any evidence demonstrating that, and even that bearded guy in the video you posted stated that 'we understand how these craft work [...] they don't break our laws of physics'. He claims that we lack the fuel and material to build it.
Second point: governments lie, and they demonstrably lie all the time. There has always been a clear incongruity between what states claim to be doing and what they're actually doing. I'm being simplistic here but power structures seek to maintain power. The CIA and other intelligence/defense agencies are arms of the government and operate under plausible deniability. They don't exist to bring you the truth and you can take it as a given that most public statements from them, especially on issues such as military technology, are propagandistic. The fact that the public can regurgitate their propaganda without shame, and focus on issues such as extraterrestrial aliens without paying attention to contemporary foreign policy issues of extreme importance (e.g. the war in Yemen, Iran conflict, etc) is testament to the effectiveness of this indoctrination system.
As to why they would do this, as I stated before, there is an arms race of sorts going on, and it is centered around space. The UK's Aerospace, Defence, Security and Space group had a turnover of £31.8 billion in 2017 and it's still rising. Rolls-Royce has recently been awarded a contract to work alongside the MoD and develop 'hypersonic propulsion systems for increased aircraft performance and capability'. The US funds similar programmes: 'In May, the House Appropriations Committee approved a bill that allocates $22.3 billion to NASA — including $125 million to develop nuclear thermal propulsion tech. Congress also provided $100 million for the same purpose in fiscal year 2019.' You can read about their Falcon Hypersonic Technology Vehicle 2 which reached Mach 20 before crashing into the ocean in 2011.
China (alongside Russia and other states) has spent billions these past few years developing Cold War-era 'molten-salt nuclear' technology to power drones, and it's something that the US had been working on since then, too: 'The US air force built a 2.5-megawatt molten salt reactor in the 1950s as part of a programme to develop nuclear-powered aircraft engines.'
If you click on the link below about spacecraft and nuclear propulsion you can watch the NSC briefing video where the issue is discussed a little:
'Bridenstine also stressed the utility of nuclear thermal propulsion for applications closer to home. For example, the increased power could potentially allow Earth-orbiting craft to steer out of the line of fire of anti-satellite weapons, he said. Such weapons are being developed by both China and Russia, Joseph Maguire, the U.S. acting Director of National Intelligence, said during the NSC meeting today.'
"Both countries view the capability to attack space systems and services as part of their broader efforts to deter or defeat an adversary in combat," Maguire said. "In short, the threat to U.S. and allied space systems continues to grow unabated."
https://www.space.com/nuclear-propulsion-future-spacecraft-nasa-chief.html
As demonstrated in another piece I provided earlier, it's well-known that most of this technology is classified and will not be made public for various reasons. It's easy to speculate about a number of these reasons, including possible violations of 'The Outer Space Treaty' and other similar treaties which have been ratified. Or the fact that if other states catch on to the latest drone technology, it may be argued that this could lead to surreptitious nuclear weapons proliferation.
There's scepticism simply for the sake of being a contrarian and then there's actually looking at facts and probability. When one looks at the facts, I don't believe there's anything to suggest alien encounters. If one wishes to take the position that these are indeed alien craft, with advanced technology and an understanding of physics far beyond our comprehension, then they must accept that these aliens are much more intelligent than us. Why, then, would they need to fly around nuclear sites and naval bases to study us, and why would they designate themselves only to these areas? If they had some 'warning' about nuclear technology then why not make it explicit? Or if they had this technology and simply wanted to observe, then they'd surely have the ability to do this unbeknownst to us. They'd also likely respond to the numerous 'signals' that have been sent into space for decades, and be spotted by the millions of people who stargaze every night and the professional scientists who study planets through massive telescopes and computers. There's simply no evidence at all to accept the alien version of events.
If you think the USA or Russians or Chinese have this tech then you have to accept they had it for 70 plus years.Humans having this tech is practically nil unless it was handed to us by a far older and superior civilization.If we had it, physics and engineering curriculums would have entire courses dedicated to the power supply, engine, airframe materials etc. it is absolutely impossible to hide a fundamental paradigm shift in engineering like that had we created it with no outside help. We would have also seen intermediary tech spring up in military and space craft over the last several decades. The amount of people involved and knowledgeable of the tech would be in the 10s if not 100s of thousands and China would have already ripped it off and crashed a few of them by now.
Some people think you can just rewrite the human understanding of physics in some secret gov lab somewhere and that’s just not possible. Stuff like developing drones is a joke and a natural evolution of tech; anyone having seen an RC airplane in the 1960s could have easily theory-crafted an mq9. Stealth tech was just giving some thought about radar reflections and was theoretically possible 80 years ago. Then there’s these tic tacs which pull so many gs that a solid steel sphere would have deformed from them, let alone an airframe. And expend so much energy from their time aloft, accelerations, and maneuvers that it would be taxing the average nuclear power stations output.
Going from 80k feet to 50 in 2 seconds?.That would require about 1500 g's (15,000 fps/s) sustained acceleration instantaneously followed by -1500 g's to stop from hitting the water.It also means reaching a top speed of 20,000 mph (orbital velocity; 10X speed of a bullet) in just two seconds, then "slamming on the brakes" to get back to 0 mph just two seconds later.Can you imagine the aerodynamic heating at 20,000 mph not leaving a thermal signature, no exhaust or plume of hot air in its wake? Can you imagine the forces involved in those maneuvers and having a structure survive? No, I can't either.
If its us then we found or were given these craft.No way we had them 70 plus years ago or skipped hundreds or possibly thousands of years of technology evolution.It just does not work that way.
do you think people 50 years ago thought that everyone would be walking around linked into a huge mainframe by a handheld computor and able to video phone someone on the other side of the planet?
Comparing shrinking down tvs, phones and computers, things we had at time, and merging them to 1 device, to the things these craft can do is not even comparable.the point is that science and progress is coming on leaps and bounds, we have jumped further in the last 100 years that we did in the last 10,000
the point is that science and progress is coming on leaps and bounds, we have jumped further in the last 100 years that we did in the last 10,000
The point is the phone, computer and tv shrinking down was a natural tech evolution than can be tracked through time.The transition from the jet engine to these things has never happened, and what they are doing is seen as impossible IN THEORY ALONE to the majority of physicists TODAY.and planes going smaller and faster isn't?
Then there’s these tic tacs which pull so many gs that a solid steel sphere would have deformed from them, let alone an airframe. And expend so much energy from their time aloft, accelerations, and maneuvers that it would be taxing the average nuclear power stations output.
Going from 80k feet to 50 in 2 seconds?.That would require about 1500 g's (15,000 fps/s) sustained acceleration instantaneously followed by -1500 g's to stop from hitting the water.It also means reaching a top speed of 20,000 mph (orbital velocity; 10X speed of a bullet) in just two seconds, then "slamming on the brakes" to get back to 0 mph just two seconds later.Can you imagine the aerodynamic heating at 20,000 mph not leaving a thermal signature, no exhaust or plume of hot air in its wake? Can you imagine the forces involved in those maneuvers and having a structure survive? No, I can't either.
If its us then we found or were given these craft.No way we had them 70 plus years ago or skipped hundreds or possibly thousands of years of technology evolution.It just does not work that way.
they got everyone to lie about Kennedy and 9/11, there must have been thousands involved
Same with Chemtrails and the moon landings
Come on, dont you realsie anything can be faked
Another simple Truther? So what do you believe and what is your test of truth?
Im not a truther, Im just pointing out that on one hand we have people banging on about huge conspiricies being possible then totally ignoring the fact that these little alien space crafts couldnt posibly be made up.
Proof or not it`s a bit hard to imagine that in this vast solar system we are the sole inhabitants.
Just doesn`t seem feasable.
Yes the universe is vast. So far we have no evidence of life anywhere else let alone intelligent life.
We might never know!
the Universe is vast....mmmm thats what we have been told....
Yes the universe is vast. So far we have no evidence of life anywhere else let alone intelligent life.
We might never know!
At times Not Much Evidence of Intelligent Life on This PlanetLOL ;D
Let alone on This Forum.
🤣😂🤣😂🤣
If anyone WILL know in the future, it's Vince Basile!
Ok things are getting even more interesting.The team that released the navy ufos videos has been claiming they had material from crashed/found ufo craft.They officially announced they had the material a week or so ago, then a few days later THE US ARMY OFFICIALLY PARTNERED UP WITH THEM TO STUDY THE MATERIAL SO IT CAN BE USED FOR THEIR GROUND FORCES
The U.S. government gave the materials to Robert Bigelow.
They are studying it at Bigelow Aerospace.
I think there is something to it and it deserves to be investigated. I don't mind my tax money being used in this way.
There are too many educated, serious people who have come forward with really nothing to gain and everything to lose.
Astronauts, accomplished/decorated military, commercial pilots, police, civilians in important jobs, etc.
It can't just be denied an longer.
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As for Bigelow, read my posts about him in this thread.
He is a major player in all of this.
He pushed douchebag Harry Reid to do something regarding the UFO question before he retired.
That is where the money came from to start AATIP.
The government claims that the program is over now, but I believe that it has simply moved to black budget programs so that they can bypass congressional inquiries.
While the show can be silly, there was a good episode of Ancient Aliens a couple of seasons ago where they talked about Bigelow and AATIP. They even showed some footage of his 60 Minutes interview where he flat out said that alien life was visiting Earth.
I used to think TTSA was full of hot air when that guy formed it. I stand corrected soon I guess.
My take is that the government is worried about this new push of private companies going into space with private citizens.
I think they are worried about things being seen by people that they cannot readily silence.
Quick list
Rumors of an alien base on the dark side of the moon.
Artifacts supposedly already found during moon missions.
Belief in artifacts on Mars.
Rumor of an abandoned alien base on Mars.
The existence of Solar Warden.
Can you imagine a ship sent up by Musk, Bramson, et al. and they see our military space fleet Solar Warden?
People who have worked at NASA say that just about every space shuttle and/or Mir mission yields tons of sightings including pics and video.
How do you stop that once private companies and American civilians with money get up there and start seeing this stuff?
I think that is the concern. I think the government feels that it is just a matter of time.
This may be a prep phase on the part of the U.S. government to prepare the general populace for the truth.
Your thoughts pretty much mirror mine.They never saw this private space race happening so fast.Now they can't keep secret either what they know and have been hiding from us, or what they also HAVE and have been hiding from us.Musk is planning to be on Mars by 2022.This is a rush to reveal so they do not get egg on their face.Interesting you brought up solar warden, I hadn't heard anything about it since that UK hacker brought it up years ago.I wonder how much truth there is to it.
It interesting how it’s going to pan out
The development of Private / Public Space travel Trips opens up a huge issue
“IF” there has been an on going Cover up.
The is there isn’t there question is likey to be answered quite soon.
I mean what is the probability that all this stuff has been being sighted and rumored for 70 plus years, and now the military has suddenly acknowledged these objects just as the world and his wife are about to get in to space?
I know it does seem rather coincidental & Convenient !!
Quick list
Rumors of an alien base on the dark side of the moon.
Artifacts supposedly already found during moon missions.
Belief in artifacts on Mars.
Rumor of an abandoned alien base on Mars.
Iron Sky (2012) & Iron Sky (2019) ;) ;) ;)
Oh, you forgot to mention Nazi/Alien base in Schwabenland on Antarctica 8)
Theres an article here on delonge and how he came to form the ttsa, the meetings he went to with the heads of skunkworks, nasa and the pentagon, and what he learned.
Cliffs seem to be the High ups he met agreed it was time for disclosure,they confirmed ufo crashes since the 40s, a life form they communicated with during the cold War that was able to turn on and off nuclear weapons, and that we have cracked gravity and made antigravity machines.
My take from all this is that they want to start mass producing these machines now the space race has kicked off so they do not get left behind by the Chinese and Russians, while also realising its becoming harder to hide them now space is becoming open to all.
the longer version is a complete mindfuck, but Delonge never wavers on any of this, and confirms its been told to him by the highest up there is.
1. Our civilization is and has been manipulated and messed with by what can be interpreted as "gods".
2. These gods mess with us as a form of competition or game amongst themselves.
3. They use religion to pit us humans against one another.
4. They have repeatedly, purposefully and, strategically delivered technological revolutions to humans in the form of UFO crashes.
5. Technology provided to humans was intended to further arm us in our efforts to kill each other.
6. It was during the cold war that humans became savvy to these gods and their manipulations.
7. Since then we have worked tirelessly to invent our own technologies and strategies to defend and fight against these gods.
8. In doing so we have "cracked gravity" and are currently building machines incorporating anti-gravity.
9. The American people should be extremely proud of our defense department and contractors that have made such leaps in technology and should support them in these endeavors.
10. Through art and technology TTSA is a platform that can gently expose the public to this larger reality and therefore assisting in uniting us as a species in support of our global defense.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28377/tom-delonges-origin-story-for-to-the-stars-academy-describes-a-government-info-operation
Very naive question , but how is Central African Space Program going on !?.
Any nice images of Afro Astronauts !?.
I am not buying any of this nonsense.
I am not buying any of this nonsense.
I am not buying any of this nonsense.
There are, perhaps, 2 trillion galaxies or more! —
However, we still do not have proof of life existing elsewhere.
There are, perhaps, 2 trillion galaxies or more!
However, we still do not have proof of life existing elsewhere.
Are There - we’ll take your estimate then
No we Don’t - However What are the Chances of Earth Being the Only Habitable Planet
With Life on it - My Guess is Very Low Probability - That’s Not To Say Those Life Forms are
More or Less Advanced or Anything like any of the Different Life Forms On Earth.
Figuratively Speaking
If We are a mere tiny grain of sand in amongst the The Trillions of Other Grains of Sand
We’re the only grain of sand with life on it. ??
That doesn’t really seem possible does it.
There are, perhaps, 2 trillion galaxies or more!HOG WASH ! i saw a Grey
However, we still do not have proof of life existing elsewhere.
HOG WASH ! i saw a Grey
Since there are probably many trillions of earth like planets in the universe there is a high probability, given current knowledge, that life exists elsewhere.
No matter how high that probability is that is not proof that life exists elsewhere, let alone intelligent life.
Most scientists would agree that our universe is not life friendly. Therefore life must be an extremely rare occurrence.
He lives minutes away from RAAF Base Richmond,1 of Aussie areas 51, fuck knows what is landing/taking off on that airport,place is guarded by nasty federal cops.Maybe he is a Mutant Alien?
Safety Fatso has no balls to take photographs of that place ;D.
But good place to get young Belgian Malinos for free, totally disobedient dog !.
Maybe he is a Mutant Alien?
I remember on the old Scifi channel, they had a documentary of Soviet footage showing officials and troops examining what appeared to be a crashed flying disc.
Don't know if these have been debunked as hoaxes or psy-ops are whatever.
I remember on the old Scifi channel, they had a documentary of Soviet footage showing officials and troops examining what appeared to be a crashed flying disc.
Don't know if these have been debunked as hoaxes or psy-ops are whatever.
Half the world buys in to an invisible sky man with a long beard watching over earth but basically another version of us is outlandish?If you believe in us then you believe in "aliens", we would be "aliens" to another civ who found us.All it would take for any of this to be true is another version of us to be a few hundred to a thousand years or more years ahead tech wise.Is it also inpossible to imagine us existing say 500 years in the future?
There are about 10 billion galaxies in the observable universe! The number of stars in a galaxy varies, but assuming an average of 100 billion stars per galaxy means that there are about 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (that's 1 billion trillion) stars in the observable universe.
Potential habitable zone status. In November 2013, astronomers reported, based on Kepler space mission data, that there could be as many as 40 billion Earth-sized planets orbiting in the habitable zones of Sun-like stars and red dwarfs in the Milky Way, 11 billion of which may be orbiting Sun-like stars.
The universe is 13.8 billion years old
* The Milky Way is among the oldest of galaxies 13.51 billion years old
* The Earth is 4.543 billion years old
* It took 4 billion years for life to develop on earth.
So our galaxy and universe are plenty old enough to have technologically advanced cultures lasting over 1,000,000 years several times over.
My guess is within a few hundred years to a thousand we will have self replicating drones out there, with the technology to travel quicker than we can even imagine now.Again if JUST 1 other civ on another planet is slightly ahead of us then this is likely to have happened already.
If you are a logical person who always looks at the statistics, then its insane to me thinking we are alone or there are not civilizations with technology we cannot even comprehend.
Oh, you forgot to mention Nazi/Alien base in Schwabenland on Antarctica 8)
Do you the real story about what happened to the U.S. Naval fleet under Rear Admiral Richard E. Byrd that went searching for it, Operation Highjump?
It feels like something is going to break.
I know that every generation says it, but...
Tucker Carlson was talking UFOs again tonight.
Doesn't seem to care what people think.
Guy seems to be a true believer.
Cool. 8)
Tucker Carlson was talking UFOs again tonight.
Still zero evidence. Why cling to this bullshit?
Just 1 part of this involves one of the most decorated fighter pilots who has seen everything that can be seen, and this astounded him.
(https://i.ibb.co/0Fs4q5d/UOqFlI4.jpg)
but this guy disagrees and thinks it was a light
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=252350.0;attach=293470;image)
if several eyewitnesses of extremely high reputation saw a man of your description commit a crime, this would be seen alone as enough evidence to prove you did the crime when you were next recognised and have you imprisoned.If you were also caught on radar, caught on infrared, video,If the navy and the pentagon also acknowledged you were seen and existed but they didnt know your identity, once you were caught it would be the easiest case in human history to convict you, because of the OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE in court.
You really are naive to believe that stuff. Some phenomenon is unidentified. So what? Zero evidence so far.
Nothing needs belief, its fact from the evidence. Intelligently controlled "phenomena" is operating in our skies and water with technology so far beyond human capabilities that its laughable. Do you need to be spoonfed everything?do you think the navy would say the videos were legit then let all these high end top gun pilots say they were intelligently controlled and like nothing we have if they had objections to any of it?Do you think they would let the radar operators come forward who confirm the uaps from the time of the video were dropping 50k feet in a second or 2?Do you think they would let the guy in the plane who shot the infrared footage and saw the craft with his own eyes come out and say what the craft was doing was "not possible"?
Navy spokesperson
The US Navy has finally acknowledged footage purported to show UFOs hurtling through the air. And while officials said they don't know what the objects are, they're not indulging any hints either.
The objects seen in three clips of declassified military footage are "unidentified aerial phenomena," Navy spokesperson Joe Gradisher confirmed to CNN.
"Gradisher said the Navy's transparency about unidentified aerial phenomena, or UAP, is largely done to encourage trainees to report "incursions" they spot in the airfield, which threaten pilots' safety.
"This is all about frequent incursions into our training ranges by UAPs," he said. "Those incursions present a safety hazard to the safe flight of our aviators and the security of our operations."
The public clips capture just a fraction of the frequent incursions Navy training ranges see, he said.
"For many years, our aviators didn't report these incursions because of the stigma attached to previous terminology and theories about what may or may not be in those videos," he said.
The only way to find out what those UAP are, he said, is to encourage trainees to report them when they see them.
"
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/18/politics/navy-confirms-ufo-videos-trnd/index.html
GOODRUM AND HIS BUSTED CHEEKS OF PEACE
KIELBASA OF PISS
GOODRUM AND HIS BUSTED CHEEKS OF PEACE
Hold on : we have a problem !.
Who invented (created) UFO's : Vincent G. or Vincenzo B. ??? or Wiggzly with J.C. help :P
Lololol. You puds are in the stone age wondering what these things are and stupid Vince Basile wouldn't believe even if he got probed. Vince is one of the biggest idiots on this board but that's another story.
Then dipshit Iron Cross claims to know what Admiral Richard Byrd said. BS. If you did that wouldn't have been your response. Because that was well before the Nazi's you little shit.
And you idiots think these are coming from spacrle. Well then how come they've never photographed or videotaped one coming from space?
They just appear here out of nowhere. Then disappear when our pathetic technology attempts to chase them down.
There are no little green men. You have no idea what we're dealing with so keep flapping around in the mud with archaic ideas for several more years until you feel its socially acceptable and safe to admit its angelic beings....I'll wait until then. Pussies.
Evidence points to being right vs. this alien nonsense your being set up for.
I dont think anyone is assuming anything, apart from the fact they are intelligent with technology or "powers" way beyond what humans have.Aliens, time travellers, dimensional beings, "angels" "demons", glitches in the simulation, who knows.
Listen to yourself time travelers? Lololololol. Theres no such thing. NONE. That's movie shit and shouldn't even be considered. Aliens? ZERO proof. If you all conducted some critical research you understand these things have been here long before 1947 Roswell. Theres even old pics from the middle ages with UFO crafts in them.
THE BIBLE mentions Chariots of fire for goodness sake. Do I need to spell out what that means? I dont think I do. You people are just too afraid to believe because of the implications. Its safer to believe in time travelers and Aliens vs. Angelic interdimensional beings. Shit would get too real. I find you all absolutely hilarious. I really do. Fear is a mofo.
Like I said, I'll wait until you all feel it's safe to come out of your safe spaces. Lololololololol. Little by little your options will become limited as these sighting continue to increase until it's time for contact. Then you will have no choice.
ok.
Come on mate. Glitches is the simulation? Another crock of shit. Total nonsense. You guys will believe all kinds of made up nonsense NEW nonsense based on theoretical science but not things written for thousands of years.
Cognitive dissonance at it's best. I'll be proved right on this I guarentee.
Theres an article here on delonge and how he came to form the ttsa, the meetings he went to with the heads of skunkworks, nasa and the pentagon, and what he learned.
Cliffs seem to be the High ups he met agreed it was time for disclosure,they confirmed ufo crashes since the 40s, a life form they communicated with during the cold War that was able to turn on and off nuclear weapons, and that we have cracked gravity and made antigravity machines.
My take from all this is that they want to start mass producing these machines now the space race has kicked off so they do not get left behind by the Chinese and Russians, while also realising its becoming harder to hide them now space is becoming open to all.
the longer version is a complete mindfuck, but Delonge never wavers on any of this, and confirms its been told to him by the highest up there is.
1. Our civilization is and has been manipulated and messed with by what can be interpreted as "gods".
2. These gods mess with us as a form of competition or game amongst themselves.
3. They use religion to pit us humans against one another.
4. They have repeatedly, purposefully and, strategically delivered technological revolutions to humans in the form of UFO crashes.
5. Technology provided to humans was intended to further arm us in our efforts to kill each other.
6. It was during the cold war that humans became savvy to these gods and their manipulations.
7. Since then we have worked tirelessly to invent our own technologies and strategies to defend and fight against these gods.
8. In doing so we have "cracked gravity" and are currently building machines incorporating anti-gravity.
9. The American people should be extremely proud of our defense department and contractors that have made such leaps in technology and should support them in these endeavors.
10. Through art and technology TTSA is a platform that can gently expose the public to this larger reality and therefore assisting in uniting us as a species in support of our global defense.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28377/tom-delonges-origin-story-for-to-the-stars-academy-describes-a-government-info-operation
Listen to yourself time travelers? Lololololol. Theres no such thing. NONE. That's movie shit and shouldn't even be considered. Aliens? ZERO proof. If you all conducted some critical research you understand these things have been here long before 1947 Roswell. Theres even old pics from the middle ages with UFO crafts in them.
THE BIBLE mentions Chariots of fire for goodness sake. Do I need to spell out what that means? I dont think I do. You people are just too afraid to believe because of the implications. Its safer to believe in time travelers and Aliens vs. Angelic interdimensional beings. Shit would get too real. I find you all absolutely hilarious. I really do. Fear is a mofo.
Like I said, I'll wait until you all feel it's safe to come out of your safe spaces. Lololololololol. Little by little your options will become limited as these sighting continue to increase until it's time for contact. Then you will have no choice.
Total hogwash.....you have no shame. Religion is a substitute for the supernatural. Amazing what some people believe.
Listen to yourself time travelers? Lololololol. Theres no such thing. NONE. That's movie shit and shouldn't even be considered. Aliens? ZERO proof. If you all conducted some critical research you understand these things have been here long before 1947 Roswell. Theres even old pics from the middle ages with UFO crafts in them.
THE BIBLE mentions Chariots of fire for goodness sake. Do I need to spell out what that means? I dont think I do. You people are just too afraid to believe because of the implications. Its safer to believe in time travelers and Aliens vs. Angelic interdimensional beings. Shit would get too real. I find you all absolutely hilarious. I really do. Fear is a mofo.
Like I said, I'll wait until you all feel it's safe to come out of your safe spaces. Lololololololol. Little by little your options will become limited as these sighting continue to increase until it's time for contact. Then you will have no choice.
Wiggs is even MORE ridiculous than hardcore religious folks believing in Skywizards.
Something is out there, and largely agreed by all in the know at this point to not be ours. At this point if it isnt us, as in humans, then anything else may as well be sky wizards in what they can do.Who is to say whatever it is didnt create us, it doesnt have to be an old man with a beard does it.
Something, sure, but not Skywizards.
Religious people are just too gullible believing the "word" of people from ancient times who had lesser grasp of science than us.
Too many dreamers back then.
Tom Delonge says religions were created just as a way to get us to fight each other.Usually id dismiss all this as a load of nonsense like Basile but in my life Ive never seen anything like it.A pop star manages to get the head of skunkworks, the navy, the pentagon to all jump aboard and admit we are not alone, and for them to work with him to disclose to the public over 5-10 years the true reality of it all.And gets the army to partner with him to study potential material from a downed craft, and make public declarations of it.It would have seemed insane as a movie plot 25 years ago.
Well, just look at Israel and Palestine! :D
It seems to work!
Listen to yourself time travelers? Lololololol. Theres no such thing. NONE. That's movie shit and shouldn't even be considered. Aliens? ZERO proof. If you all conducted some critical research you understand these things have been here long before 1947 Roswell. Theres even old pics from the middle ages with UFO crafts in them.
THE BIBLE mentions Chariots of fire for goodness sake. Do I need to spell out what that means? I dont think I do. You people are just too afraid to believe because of the implications. Its safer to believe in time travelers and Aliens vs. Angelic interdimensional beings. Shit would get too real. I find you all absolutely hilarious. I really do. Fear is a mofo.
Like I said, I'll wait until you all feel it's safe to come out of your safe spaces. Lololololololol. Little by little your options will become limited as these sighting continue to increase until it's time for contact. Then you will have no choice.
That's what the aliens want you to believe so that you worship them as gods. ::)
;D
Planet X, Nibiru, Annunaki.(What Wiggs hopes for)
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Planet X, Nibiru, Annunaki.(What Wiggs hopes for)
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Little by little your options will become limited as these sighting continue to increase until it's time for contact. Then you will have no choice.
What I'm loving is that president Trump's "space force" is officially going to be a branch of the military.
The first since 1947 and the sixth overall.
Appears to be pretty important.
And the Airforce was formed 3 months after Roswell.
Something is out there, and largely agreed by all in the know at this point to not be ours. At this point if it isnt us, as in humans, then anything else may as well be sky wizards in what they can do.Who is to say whatever it is didnt create us, it doesnt have to be an old man with a beard does it.
Tom Delonge says religions were created just as a way to get us to fight each other.Usually id dismiss all this as a load of nonsense like Basile but in my life Ive never seen anything like it.A pop star manages to get the head of skunkworks, the navy, the pentagon to all jump aboard and admit we are not alone, and for them to work with him to disclose to the public over 5-10 years the true reality of it all.And gets the army to partner with him to study potential material from a downed craft, and make public declarations of it.It would have seemed insane as a movie plot 25 years ago.At this point i only see one of 2 options, its the biggest false flag ever with the biggest paper trail leading back to the conspirators, or its all real.
The more you argue the less sense you reveal. Clearly you are capable of believing all manner of pure rubbish....you have absolutely no clue what to accept and what to reject.
You make these 1-2 sentence answers with no intelligent thought or counter argument, no facts, literally nothing.Just comes across as a scared old man who doesnt want to confront the fact that he might have been wrong about everything he thought he knew.If it was down to dullards like you we'd still be sitting round a fire thinking the wheel was impossible.
You make these 1-2 sentence answers with no intelligent thought or counter argument, no facts, literally nothing.Just comes across as a scared old man who doesnt want to confront the fact that he might have been wrong about everything he thought he knew.If it was down to dullards like you we'd still be sitting round a fire thinking the wheel was impossible.
Dude - that poor old fella doesn’t even realize what he is saying anymore. Don’t reply. If we all stand still and quiet he won’t know anyone is here and he will go away.
So are they aliens or angelic beings?
Planet X, Nibiru, Annunaki.(What Wiggs hopes for)
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Interdimensional Angelic Beings of peace!
UFOs = angelic beings
Lolololol, Vince is the example of the guy that has total trust and investment in the system. He's the guy that believes everything he's told from authority figures.
Vince is an example of a lifetime of programming. Lololol. Vince doesn't believe or trust his senses unless he gets permission from the government first.
SAD ol' boomer. They really messed you up man.
I have seen UFOs with my own eyes
I have seen UFOs with my own eyes
We all haveIdk about that
You don't create a "Space Force"...A fucking SPACE FORCE unless you foresee something coming that you feel is a threat. You people need to wake TF up and deal with reality and quit being pussies. Look up the Vatican's Telescope called "Lucifer" in Arizona. Ari-freakin'-zona.
They know something is coming...and it aint little green men. :)
You don't create a "Space Force"...A fucking SPACE FORCE unless you foresee something coming that you feel is a threat. You people need to wake TF up and deal with reality and quit being pussies. Look up the Vatican's Telescope called "Lucifer" in Arizona. Ari-freakin'-zona.
They know something is coming...and it aint little green men. :)
You don't create a "Space Force"...A fucking SPACE FORCE unless you foresee something coming that you feel is a threat. You people need to wake TF up and deal with reality and quit being pussies. Look up the Vatican's Telescope called "Lucifer" in Arizona. Ari-freakin'-zona.
They know something is coming...and it aint little green men. :)
Some say 2020 is the year of disclosure
some said 2012 was Nibru and the world would end..Oh idk about that
some said 2012 was Nibru and the world would end..
some said 2012 was Nibru and the world would end..
Nibiru wasn't caught on camera, radar and infrared though.Its been said many times in this thread but if its us then it was tech given to us, and if it isn't us then its definitely something intelligent that isnt us.Disclosure basically happened already and it will be a soft disclosure from this point on imho.at the end of the day what difference does it make if we evolved or were puit here by aliens?
They know something is coming...and it aint little green men. :)
WHO is 'they', name them !.
Tell us more about little green man ;D.
at the end of the day what difference does it make if we evolved or were puit here by aliens?
Who really cares
We are born , we live, we die, just like every other organism on the planet, we are not special, we just have an ego that wont allow us to accept we are worth fuck all...
at the end of the day what difference does it make if we evolved or were puit here by aliens?
Who really cares
We are born , we live, we die, just like every other organism on the planet, we are not special, we just have an ego that wont allow us to accept we are worth fuck all...
Why care about anything? We are born, we live, we die.
Do you hear me? Do you care?
Regarding to AbrahamG, when he die :D, god will reward him with 72 virgins ::)
There are perhaps countless UFO sightings but so far nothing that would be accepted as solid evidence of any being from somewhere other than this planet.
There are perhaps countless UFO sightings but so far nothing that would be accepted as solid evidence of any being from somewhere other than this planet.
Quite a few US Naval aviators (as well as other branches / countries I am sure) would beg to differ with you.
For someone like you - there may be no evidence. You don’t have the education / experience to recognize something that is moving / maneuvering MAGNITUDES beyond our even conceived possibilities.
If you say 🙄
You believe what you want
As yet the general population isn’t really told or aware of much military intelligence
I will believe in aliens from another world when there is compelling evidence to do so.
Allah, not God.
J
There's more to that
So, we should respect the opinion of a Mr Martian in this UFO discussion?
Why care about anything? We are born, we live, we die.Bro...
Do you hear me? Do you care?