https://abc7.com/la-countys-stay-at-home-order-will-likely-remain-in-place-for-next-three-months/6176132/
https://abc7.com/la-countys-stay-at-home-order-will-likely-remain-in-place-for-next-three-months/6176132/
Good for him or just move out of state like he threatened.
Musk thanks Trump for supporting Tesla plant reopening in California
https://www.foxbusiness.com/business-leaders/elon-musk-opening-factory-alameda-county
I wish he would but it's not an easy task and takes a lot of time. Especially hard during these times. But, man, the attitude of some of our so-called leaders.
Why are we putting our economy and lives in the hands of doctors who just say "maybe", "could", "chance" etc.... Unless they know for a fact then shut the fuck up. Everyone could be a billionaire but we aren't. the amount of people that are going to die from alcohol and drugs from being locked up will be worse than this fucking Corona bullshit.
https://abc7.com/la-countys-stay-at-home-order-will-likely-remain-in-place-for-next-three-months/6176132/its time to move to texas
Why the fuck can you jam into costco yet you can't get a haircut where its just you and the hair cutter who will probably have gloves and a mask on? WTF!!!!
https://abc7.com/la-countys-stay-at-home-order-will-likely-remain-in-place-for-next-three-months/6176132/
Who would actually choose to live in California? Gluttons for punishment of peace
Shoot a vial of tren, don your sacred thong and lead the way champ!
Go get em Coach. March down to the courthouse and show them who's boss. :D
Cali use to be the perfect place to live. Beach, mountains, lakes, skiing, hunting, fishing, jobs, weather... Really the best place to live in the world. So many are locked in with homes and jobs. It's not easy to just uproot and move when you have a family and have to start all over again. I moved there in 1981 and loved it. Weather just as good, actually better than Hawaii because not as much rain. Cali made Hawaii seem so third world in comparison. Everything was better and more advanced than Hawaii. Average gyms were luxury compared to the islands. Here in Hawaii when something breaks it takes months to get replacement parts. If you want an oil change it's still an all day thing. I couldn't believe in Cali you could get your oil changed and ready to go in less than a half an hour.
It would really piss me off that a virtual paradise on earth was destroyed by the Left. They destroy everything they touch.
Oh I agree. I should’ve been more clear. I meant people who have decided to move there recently. I understand why guys like Coach are still there.
its time to move to texas
We’ve been looking at either Arizona or Texas. The only thing that stopping us is that my mom is 82 and not going leave herTake her. Old birds love Arizona.
Who would actually choose to live in California? Gluttons for punishment of peace
Why the fuck can you jam into costco yet you can't get a haircut where its just you and the hair cutter who will probably have gloves and a mask on? WTF!!!!I bought Wahl clippers a month ago, now sold out on Amazon. Gotta keep it tight.
For the weather and the beach?
Take her. Old birds love Arizona.
(https://www.dailydot.com/wp-content/uploads/a35/57/ednaroof.gif)Great movie!
https://abc7.com/la-countys-stay-at-home-order-will-likely-remain-in-place-for-next-three-months/6176132/First time I agree with you Coach , when are YOU going to start fighting back or are you going to wait until somebody with balls start some shit and you will follow, starting a thread on Getbig won't do much for your cause.
All to save a few old birds. ::)
Nah, just everybody open up. They can't arrest everyone. Civil disobedience. This is America FFS! Our ancestor uprooted their entire lives, fought, and died, fighting against this authoritarianism. That brave lady in Texas proved that it pays to fight back and stand up to these pampered tyrants that are subject to the rules and laws they impose on others. Those fuckers work for us.
We have a huge problem that isn't easy to solve. After governments got involved things changed and restrictions were introduced. Just about everyone accepted this was necessary. As the risk eases what do governments do? Propose there be steps to get back to normal. Well, here is the snag. What government wants to give an order that might result in even one person losing their life? Also, what if that person who loses their life is us, family or someone close to us? This is a no win situation for those who give orders. In addition you have experts in the medical profession giving opinions about possible outcomes of any easing of restrictions. I don't think the world has been in such a delicate situation before. Here in Australia things aren't so bad re the virus but we still can't go around and do what we like. Oh, we can buy food and essentials, exercise and visit here and there but overall we are told to stay home. You see, the government doesn't want to allow travel about the state if that results in the virus being spread to places that were untouched before. I can't see an easy solution here. In the meantime, imagine owning a gym or restaurant or any other business affected by the lockdowns. How are they going to survive a continued shutdown?
We have a huge problem that isn't easy to solve. After governments got involved things changed and restrictions were introduced. Just about everyone accepted this was necessary. As the risk eases what do governments do? Propose there be steps to get back to normal. Well, here is the snag. What government wants to give an order that might result in even one person losing their life?
COVID-19 is uncharted territory. There's very little comparative history to look at before making decisions. It is a damned if they do and damned if they don't situation. -Just a little scary for anyone in a leadership position.
Covid-19 has turned out to be nothing but a severe flu like disease - and even that depends on your pre-existing conditions. Nothing scary about it. The left is running with it hoping it causes Trump to lose the next election.
Honestly this type of thinking is what's wrong with the world. No one values anyone. Many of those old birds fought for what we have today.Finally a great post !!
Always record tyranny
https://twitter.com/CarlosSimancas/status/1260022947424550912 (https://twitter.com/CarlosSimancas/status/1260022947424550912)
Fuck this lockdown shit. Open up America again. The weak and smokers can stay at home but let the rest of us get the hell on with it.
A little over 3 million people die every year worldwide from obesity.
Where is the outcry to sequester fat people away from food ?
The U.S. government sent you home and kept you in the dark so they could transfer $7 TRILLION of debt onto the backs of the middle class. Without President Donald Trump it would have been double that.
You’ve just been duped into the second largest transfer of wealth in history, after the 8 year Obama scam fleeced the middle class of $10 TRILLION.
We have a huge problem that isn't easy to solve. After governments got involved things changed and restrictions were introduced. Just about everyone accepted this was necessary. As the risk eases what do governments do? Propose there be steps to get back to normal. Well, here is the snag. What government wants to give an order that might result in even one person losing their life? Also, what if that person who loses their life is us, family or someone close to us? This is a no win situation for those who give orders. In addition you have experts in the medical profession giving opinions about possible outcomes of any easing of restrictions. I don't think the world has been in such a delicate situation before. Here in Australia things aren't so bad re the virus but we still can't go around and do what we like. Oh, we can buy food and essentials, exercise and visit here and there but overall we are told to stay home. You see, the government doesn't want to allow travel about the state if that results in the virus being spread to places that were untouched before. I can't see an easy solution here. In the meantime, imagine owning a gym or restaurant or any other business affected by the lockdowns. How are they going to survive a continued shutdown?
We’ve been looking at either Arizona or Texas. The only thing that stopping us is that my mom is 82 and not going leave her
I’d rather live in FL with no state tax, less government regulation and less homeless people.
Honestly this type of thinking is what's wrong with the world. No one values anyone. Many of those old birds fought for what we have today.
I have family and friends still in OC, California, Newport Beach, would never pick Florida over that imo lol
I’d rather live in FL with no state tax, less government regulation and less homeless people.
Texas is great, Austin is more liberal, but Dallas has great house prices, lifting scene is pretty big and great gyms
Please forgive my broken record response. In case you failed to notice COVID-19 (a severe flu like disease) is worldwide and not just a problem that's happening in the U.S.
Here are a few things for you to ponder which might help you with your inability or unwillingness to take a worldview about a global problem.
As the novel coronavirus continues to spread, some countries are putting their citizens on various forms lockdown, though that's not a technical term used by public-health officials.
India, France, Italy, and the UK have implemented the world's largest and most restrictive mass quarantines.
A handful of countries, including Spain, Germany, and South Korea have started relaxing lockdown measures. The results have been mixed.
More than 286,835 people have died and over 4,201,921 have been infected by the coronavirus worldwide.
https://www.businessinsider.com/countries-on-lockdown-coronavirus-italy-2020-3
List of countries locked down
Get off my nuts Prime, lol The disease is greatly exaggerated. I was in Korea during the H1N1 flu and saw the 'mini-lockdown there- even to the point of having a thermal scan at Samsung Semiconductor where I was giving a talk. At the time that was the boogie man the world was afraid of - and it led to nothing. This is no different. The recorded deaths are so inflated as to be meaningless. In my local hospital in Greenville SC my daughter in law, an ICU nurse, told me they are recording Covid-19 as the cause of death for elderly patients even if it isn't. The reimbursements are about 5X greater from Medicare if they do.
As for my "worldview" I'll put my current international experiences up against your house bound self any day. I deal with the whole of Europe in my tech business as well as China/Korea/Japan and Taiwan. The resounding response from the people I talk to there is: This is a pile of bullshit. I spoke with my rep in Beijing two days ago. He told me nothing has changed - just some hotspots in the provinces north of the city and even that is no cause for alarm. So spare me your preaching.
Get off my nuts Prime, lol The disease is greatly exaggerated. I was in Korea during the H1N1 flu and saw the 'mini-lockdown there- even to the point of having a thermal scan at Samsung Semiconductor where I was giving a talk. At the time that was the boogie man the world was afraid of - and it led to nothing. This is no different. The recorded deaths are so inflated as to be meaningless. In my local hospital in Greenville SC my daughter in law, an ICU nurse, told me they are recording Covid-19 as the cause of death for elderly patients even if it isn't. The reimbursements are about 5X greater from Medicare if they do.
As for my "worldview" I'll put my current international experiences up against your house bound self any day. I deal with the whole of Europe in my tech business as well as China/Korea/Japan and Taiwan. The resounding response from the people I talk to there is: This is a pile of bullshit. I spoke with my rep in Beijing two days ago. He told me nothing has changed - just some hotspots in the provinces north of the city and even that is no cause for alarm. So spare me your preaching.
Honestly this type of thinking is what's wrong with the world. No one values anyone. Many of those old birds fought for what we have today.Correct, with the exception of a few family members. Most human beings are scum, like you for instance.
Yes, don’t ever disrespect the WW2, Vietnam, and Korean War veteransGo suck a dick, Beverly.
Fuck deadz
The libtards are slowly taking over the state. In less than 10 years TX will be a blue state.
The libtards are slowly taking over the state. In less than 10 years TX will be a blue state.
Random thoughts here, not directed at anyone.
Just out of curiosity, is anyone here an actual medical provider working within a hospital, particularly an acute care setting? I mean a Doctor, Nurse Practitioner, Physician Assistant or RN? If so, what have you seen? I think it's important to get their point of view, as they're the true eyes on the ground that are seeing firsthand the devastating effects this virus is having on people.
From March 1st to May 15th, this virus has killed 86,000+ Americans. That's 2 months and a half. Multiply that mortality rate by 4 to complete a year and total death rate could reach 430,000+. Spanish Influenza of 1918 killed over 675,000 Americans and certainly was the most devastating Pandemic in the last century, infecting over 500 million people worldwide (3rd of the world's population at that time and killed more than 50 million people worldwide). Times were different in 1918. They didn't have access to the medical advances we have today, medications or equipment. They also didn't have the advanced communication tools we have today (they didn't have Televisions, Computers, Internet, Cell Phones etc). We are in a much better place today.
I think we shouldn't underestimate what this virus is. For some to call it a hoax, lie or bullshit is odd.
I think what the government should do is simple. For those that feel so inclined to go back to business as usual immediately, allow them to do so, but have them legally waive their rights to medical care if they become infected by COVID-19. All others, abide by the laws set by the same people YOU voted into office.
I want to go back to work as much as anyone else, but I'm also not trying to die. A fucking gym can wait. It's a petri dish for infections and building some muscle isn't making anyone any money as a result. But this entire situation is very interesting, first pandemic of our time. It's put into perspective what Politician's truly are, how useless social influencers truly are, what's really important for human beings versus what people are made to believe is necessary due to consumer-driven marketing and for many, it's allowed people a chance to reconnect with family and disconnect from the clutter in between that keeps us "busy".
Remember as well, there have been billions pumped into our economy and furthermore swept into the pockets of the largest companies in the USA (you know, the job creators). While I don't agree that printing money is a good idea, as it does make paper money worthless over time, strange how the citizens of the USA got pennies in comparison to these large companies. Politicians are showings their true colors, from Trump all the way down to your local politicians.
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Random thoughts here, not directed at anyone.
Just out of curiosity, is anyone here an actual medical provider working within a hospital, particularly an acute care setting? I mean a Doctor, Nurse Practitioner, Physician Assistant or RN? If so, what have you seen? I think it's important to get their point of view, as they're the true eyes on the ground that are seeing firsthand the devastating effects this virus is having on people.
From March 1st to May 15th, this virus has killed 86,000+ Americans. That's 2 months and a half. Multiply that mortality rate by 4 to complete a year and total death rate could reach 430,000+. Spanish Influenza of 1918 killed over 675,000 Americans and certainly was the most devastating Pandemic in the last century, infecting over 500 million people worldwide (3rd of the world's population at that time and killed more than 50 million people worldwide). Times were different in 1918. They didn't have access to the medical advances we have today, medications or equipment. They also didn't have the advanced communication tools we have today (they didn't have Televisions, Computers, Internet, Cell Phones etc). We are in a much better place today.
I think we shouldn't underestimate what this virus is. For some to call it a hoax, lie or bullshit is odd.
I think what the government should do is simple. For those that feel so inclined to go back to business as usual immediately, allow them to do so, but have them legally waive their rights to medical care if they become infected by COVID-19. All others, abide by the laws set by the same people YOU voted into office.
I want to go back to work as much as anyone else, but I'm also not trying to die. A fucking gym can wait. It's a petri dish for infections and building some muscle isn't making anyone any money as a result. But this entire situation is very interesting, first pandemic of our time. It's put into perspective what Politician's truly are, how useless social influencers truly are, what's really important for human beings versus what people are made to believe is necessary due to consumer-driven marketing and for many, it's allowed people a chance to reconnect with family and disconnect from the clutter in between that keeps us "busy".
Remember as well, there have been billions pumped into our economy and furthermore swept into the pockets of the largest companies in the USA (you know, the job creators). While I don't agree that printing money is a good idea, as it does make paper money worthless over time, strange how the citizens of the USA got pennies in comparison to these large companies. Politicians are showings their true colors, from Trump all the way down to your local politicians.
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Random thoughts here, not directed at anyone.
Just out of curiosity, is anyone here an actual medical provider working within a hospital, particularly an acute care setting? I mean a Doctor, Nurse Practitioner, Physician Assistant or RN? If so, what have you seen? I think it's important to get their point of view, as they're the true eyes on the ground that are seeing firsthand the devastating effects this virus is having on people.
From March 1st to May 15th, this virus has killed 86,000+ Americans. That's 2 months and a half. Multiply that mortality rate by 4 to complete a year and total death rate could reach 430,000+. Spanish Influenza of 1918 killed over 675,000 Americans and certainly was the most devastating Pandemic in the last century, infecting over 500 million people worldwide (3rd of the world's population at that time and killed more than 50 million people worldwide). Times were different in 1918. They didn't have access to the medical advances we have today, medications or equipment. They also didn't have the advanced communication tools we have today (they didn't have Televisions, Computers, Internet, Cell Phones etc). We are in a much better place today.
I think we shouldn't underestimate what this virus is. For some to call it a hoax, lie or bullshit is odd.
I think what the government should do is simple. For those that feel so inclined to go back to business as usual immediately, allow them to do so, but have them legally waive their rights to medical care if they become infected by COVID-19. All others, abide by the laws set by the same people YOU voted into office.
I want to go back to work as much as anyone else, but I'm also not trying to die. A fucking gym can wait. It's a petri dish for infections and building some muscle isn't making anyone any money as a result. But this entire situation is very interesting, first pandemic of our time. It's put into perspective what Politician's truly are, how useless social influencers truly are, what's really important for human beings versus what people are made to believe is necessary due to consumer-driven marketing and for many, it's allowed people a chance to reconnect with family and disconnect from the clutter in between that keeps us "busy".
Remember as well, there have been billions pumped into our economy and furthermore swept into the pockets of the largest companies in the USA (you know, the job creators). While I don't agree that printing money is a good idea, as it does make paper money worthless over time, strange how the citizens of the USA got pennies in comparison to these large companies. Politicians are showings their true colors, from Trump all the way down to your local politicians.
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Let’s be real. They say it’s killed 86k. We know they are pumping the numbers. Nursing home with 2,3,4 co morbidities are counted. Hospice patients are counted. We know state health depts are classifying everything they can as Chi-rona related. H ell even a dude in Colorado with a .55 bac had the death cert changed from ETOH poisoning to Chi-rona. It’s bull chit
Covid is being added to every persons death certificate.
Another point is the numbers are faked. Hospitals receive 12K a patient from medicare for Covid. Strong reason to say they died from Covid.
Destroying the economy is clearly for political ambition. Trump had the greatest economy in 50 years and it was improving.
2 things..
So you are implying that hospitals throughout the USA are all in on a scam to rip off the US government by faking the number of deaths that are reported as covid-19 deaths in order to squeeze out money from the US government? Literally, the hospitals are frankly lying and fraudulently reporting deaths as covid-19 related in order to steal funding from the government? Those are very big claims my friend. Do you have actual proof that this is in fact happening throughout major hospitals in the USA?
Second, destroying the economy and doing it for political ambition? Why would any Governor want to purposely destroy its state economy? We've seen what occurs in places like Detroit, Michigan and it's a barren Wasteland, we're people in severe poverty have resorted to violent crimes in order to survive. Governors that do this to their states end up losing elections and furthermore get removed. None of this is attributable to Trump, as he does not have the right to close any states, as those states can only be closed by the governors. Maybe I'm just not getting why anyone would assume that destroying the economy would lead to any sort of self-fulfilling political ambition. It doesn't help anyone on either sides of Capitol Hill.
Help me understand a little bit regarding the key points I mentioned above in order for me to see where your thought process is going with this. I genuinely just want to know as I am not completely understanding the thought process behind it, but I am certainly interested.
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But do you have credible evidence for this from a reliable source? Evidence to suggest that covid-19 was being added to every person's death certificate, regardless of covid-19 being involved in the death or not? Evidence that clearly suggests that the cause of death was covid-19 that they were suffering from versus some other underlying condition?
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Have a friend who is an RN in a big hospital downtown. He told me the same thing... almost all the dead bodies are being toe-tagged as Covid.
You seem a bit naive. Hospitals are in business to make money. They don't really care if people die as long as they get paid.
Sounds credible. Everyone has a friend on the inside and hospital's are a business that don't care if people die, as long as they make money.
I guess, I am naive. But yet no one has been able to post or provide a credible source short of hearsay or rumors.
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Here is the government guidance for establishing cause of death in the UK
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/877302/guidance-for-doctors-completing-medical-certificates-of-cause-of-death-covid-19.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3IYRlsKFpzHj4EW7G59fDVm3o_uYOsToQch6nuYNnIh4GMaFnirRfzJT8
HERE IS THE RELEVANT SECTION
For example, if before death the patient had symptoms typical of COVID- 19 infection, but the test result has not been received, it would be satisfactory to give ‘COVID-19’ as the cause of death, tick Box B and then share the test result when it becomes available. In the circumstances of there being no swab, it is satisfactory to apply clinical judgement.
3. Referring deaths to the coroner
• Covid-19 is an acceptable direct or underlying cause of death for the purposes of completing the Medical Certificate of Cause of Death
• Covid-19 is not a reason on its own to refer a death to a coroner under the Coroners and Justice Act 2009.
• That Covid-19 is a notifiable disease under the Health Protection (Notification) Regulations 2010 does not mean referral to a coroner is required by virtue of its notifiable status.
Medical practitioners are required to certify causes of death “to the best of their knowledge and belief”. Without diagnostic proof, if appropriate and to avoid delay, medical practitioners can circle ‘2’ in the MCCD (“information from post-mortem may be available later”) or tick Box B on the reverse of the MCCD for ante-mortem investigations. For example, if before death the patient had symptoms typical of COVID-19 infection, but the test result has not been received, it would be satisfactory to give ‘COVID-19’ as the cause of death, tick Box B and then share the test result when it becomes available. In the circumstances of there being no swab, it is satisfactory to apply clinical judgement.
Sounds credible. Everyone has a friend on the inside and hospital's are a business that don't care if people die, as long as they make money.
I guess, I am naive. But yet no one has been able to post or provide a credible source short of hearsay or rumors.
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I took a look at that on page 3/17 and it read like this:
In short, what I gathered from that is that you can use covid-19 as an acceptable direct or underlying cause of death for the purpose of filling out the certificate of death. It didn't suggest that covid-19 can be or is being added as a diagnosis/cause of death to everyone's death certificate.
Moreover, it stated that if someone had all the typical symptoms of covid-19 infection but if test results had not been received it would be satisfactory to give covid-19 as a cause of death AND then share the test result when it becomes available. Common things being common, it is fair to attribute the disease process to a patient's death when all the symptoms line up according to what the disease typically presents as, especially when you do not have a test result on hand at the time of death. Now my question is, does the totality of covid-19 deaths get updated once the test results do in fact come back and reflect that it was either directly or not even caused by covid-19?
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A couple of things.
The doctor is a family physician, you do know that family physicians practice primarily and mostly in outpatient clinics, right? They're not inpatient clinicians and their training is not one that lends itself to that kind of setting or acuity level. In rare cases, particularly very rural areas, they make exceptions and place them in hospitals, but it is certainly not the norm nor are they expected to perform any critical care medicine. Not sure I would hang my hat on what this guy is saying based particularly on his credentials, given that the patients that are dying in hospitals are not patients that he has direct access to or would even be needed to fill out death certificates for. When I say I would like to hear the opinions of medical providers in the acute care setting, I mean working in the hospitals within acute care settings like the emergency department and/or ICUs.
I also don't see where they are doing anything inappropriate by writing presumed or probable cause of death. Medicine is in fact not a perfect science and I think we all know and respect this, so specificity while ideal in causes of death isn't always attained.
I also don't think Fauci is perfect or infallible. I think most doctors were slightly clueless when this first hit our shores. That said, I would certainly trust doctor Fauci who leads pretty much all of the Infectious Disease studies in this country and is an author on practically all of the medical school Bibles (think of Harrisons Internal Medicine - practically the textbook that all medical students must have and use throughout med school) over this guy who is simply a family medicine doctor (there's levels to this shit and in the world of medicine they are literally the lowest on the scale and relegated to outpatient work).
Nonetheless, I appreciate you posting the link to that video that gives us better Insight as to what some medical providers, even if on the outside, are thinking regarding the overall coronavirus pandemic.
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A couple of things.
The doctor is a family physician, you do know that family physicians practice primarily and mostly in outpatient clinics, right? They're not inpatient clinicians and their training is not one that lends itself to that kind of setting or acuity level. In rare cases, particularly very rural areas, they make exceptions and place them in hospitals, but it is certainly not the norm nor are they expected to perform any critical care medicine. Not sure I would hang my hat on what this guy is saying based particularly on his credentials. When I say I would like to hear the opinions of medical providers in the acute care setting, I mean working in the hospitals within acute care settings like the emergency department and/or ICUs.
I also don't see where they are doing anything inappropriate by writing presumed or probable cause of death. Medicine is in fact not a perfect science and I think we all know and respect this, so specificity while ideal in causes of death isn't always attained.
I also don't think Fauci is perfect or infallible. I think most doctors were slightly clueless when this first hit our shores. That said, I would certainly trust doctor Fauci who leads pretty much all of the Infectious Disease studies in this country and is an author on practically all of the medical school Bibles (think of Harrisons Internal Medicine - practically the textbook that all medical students must have and use throughout med school) over this guy who is simply a family medicine doctor (there's levels to this shit and in the world of medicine they are literally the lowest on the scale and relegated to outpatient work).
Nonetheless, I appreciate you posting the link to that video that gives us better Insight as to what some medical providers, even if on the outside, are thinking regarding the overall coronavirus pandemic.
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A couple of things.
The doctor is a family physician, you do know that family physicians practice primarily and mostly in outpatient clinics, right? They're not inpatient clinicians and their training is not one that lends itself to that kind of setting or acuity level. In rare cases, particularly very rural areas, they make exceptions and place them in hospitals, but it is certainly not the norm nor are they expected to perform any critical care medicine. Not sure I would hang my hat on what this guy is saying based particularly on his credentials, given that the patients that are dying in hospitals are not patients that he has direct access to or would even be needed to fill out death certificates for. When I say I would like to hear the opinions of medical providers in the acute care setting, I mean working in the hospitals within acute care settings like the emergency department and/or ICUs.
I also don't see where they are doing anything inappropriate by writing presumed or probable cause of death. Medicine is in fact not a perfect science and I think we all know and respect this, so specificity while ideal in causes of death isn't always attained.
I also don't think Fauci is perfect or infallible. I think most doctors were slightly clueless when this first hit our shores. That said, I would certainly trust doctor Fauci who leads pretty much all of the Infectious Disease studies in this country and is an author on practically all of the medical school Bibles (think of Harrisons Internal Medicine - practically the textbook that all medical students must have and use throughout med school) over this guy who is simply a family medicine doctor (there's levels to this shit and in the world of medicine they are literally the lowest on the scale and relegated to outpatient work).
Nonetheless, I appreciate you posting the link to that video that gives us better Insight as to what some medical providers, even if on the outside, are thinking regarding the overall coronavirus pandemic.
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I would like to see a live televised debate between Fauci and Judy Mikovits
FFS man, I give up. You're either completely dense, or playing devil's advocate.
I don't think he would engage her, given that she is known to be a conspiracy theorist. I don't think he likes to go down those types of rabbit holes.now I know you are trolling. ;)
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now I know you are trolling. ;)
I would like to see a live televised debate between Fauci and Judy Mikovits
I would like to see little Antny pull out the ole brajole and for Judy to drop to her knees and suck it dry.
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Why the fuck can you jam into costco yet you can't get a haircut where its just you and the hair cutter who will probably have gloves and a mask on? WTF!!!!Yes that doesn't make sense at all. Hair salons could operate by appointment only to limit the number of people that visit. Meanwhile people are standing in line at Costco increasing their chances of getting infected.
Everyone making policy still have their jobs and their paychecks. If the taxpayers aren't getting paid then neither should the government officials who get their income from the tax payers. Believe me, if they weren't able to keep their refrigerators stocked with premium ice-cream things would be very different.Yep I agree none of them should get paid. Just because they are elected officials doesn't mean they can do whatever they want!
I'm sure little Antny just has to pull out his 80 year old brajole and you'd be puckering up. Must be on a dry spell there Abraham, haha
Sounds credible. Everyone has a friend on the inside and hospital's are a business that don't care if people die, as long as they make money.
I guess, I am naive. But yet no one has been able to post or provide a credible source short of hearsay or rumors.
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Hospitals are loving this stupidity. And hospitals are there for one reason- to make money. This pig fuck is their greatest dream come true. Hundreds of billions of dollars ripe for the picking.
Burn your mask.
Kill your television.
Dude, a couple hospitals in San Diego county have had to furlough because they never had the COVID rush they wanted and have turned away people who needed to see doctors for other reasons. Now they're losing a shit load of money and complaining about it. Such a fucking disaster.Everyone I know who works in healthcare from doctors to people who supply pharmaceuticals to hospitals to people who staff hospitals have told me how bad business is right now. It's a total disaster.
But do you have credible evidence for this from a reliable source? Evidence to suggest that covid-19 was being added to every person's death certificate, regardless of covid-19 being involved in the death or not? Evidence that clearly suggests that the cause of death was covid-19 that they were suffering from versus some other underlying condition?
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Good question. I was going to ask it myself.
Everything I've read and heard suggests that COVID-19 must be the primary cause of someone's death to become part of the statistics reported and if anything because some people have died at home, COVID-19 deaths are under reported. One thing that seems obvious is considering the shortage of tests, a whole lot of people who have COVID-19 but are asymptomatic don't know they have it. Chances are the number of infected people is considerably higher than what has been reported.
Science and the medical profession are finding out that COVID-19 affects much more than our respiratory system. It is suspected of causes all manner of organ failures.
You (like most people who watch the MSM) are acting as though it's an instant death sentence if you get it... it's not.
If someone is 70+ and has pre-existing health conditions or compromised immune system, yes it can kill, but so can the regular flu.
Dude, a couple hospitals in San Diego county have had to furlough because they never had the COVID rush they wanted and have turned away people who needed to see doctors for other reasons. Now they're losing a shit load of money and complaining about it. Such a fucking disaster.
You (like most people who watch the MSM) are acting as though it's an instant death sentence if you get it... it's not.
If someone is 70+ and has pre-existing health conditions or compromised immune system, yes it can kill, but so can the regular flu.
Fuck this lock down! It’s time for Americans to fight back!
I successfully survived COVID19 and I was asymptomatic. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I see nurses on TicTok making dance videos and shit, then you got other footage of medical workers terrified and overwhelmed. What the actual fuck is really going on?
https://abc7.com/la-countys-stay-at-home-order-will-likely-remain-in-place-for-next-three-months/6176132/
Los Angeles County officials are recommending that the stay-at-home order be extended until August as the region continues efforts to reduce the spread of the coronavirus.
I successfully survived COVID19 and I was asymptomatic. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻You're so brave.
San Diego mayor plus a few others are trying to meet with Newsom because his requirements to reopen are bullshit and they know it. No Covid deaths for 14 days is not going to happen. Some 90 year old with lung cancer dies on day 13 and they call it Covid and it resets. Until there’s a vaccine that’s an impossible ask.That's because Newscum is an out of control piece of shit, intent on running this state farther into the socialist shithole democrats want it to be.
You're so brave.
What you trying to do Coach?
I’m down.
Man, I don’t think I’ll have to do anything, it’s already being done here for the most part. Police more and more aren’t enforcing orders, businesses are opening up regardless of orders, constitutional lawsuits are flying all over the country and ones filing are winning and it just keeps going.
So many lawsuits coming out against the state. Problem is the courts are closed. How convenient is that for the state? Go ahead and sue us...oh wait. You can’t.Courts weren't closed when they wanted to fuck us out of our rights for ammo.
Man, I don’t think I’ll have to do anything, it’s already being done here for the most part. Police more and more aren’t enforcing orders, businesses are opening up regardless of orders, constitutional lawsuits are flying all over the country and ones filing are winning and it just keeps going.
Man, I don’t think I’ll have to do anything, it’s already being done here for the most part. Police more and more aren’t enforcing orders, businesses are opening up regardless of orders, constitutional lawsuits are flying all over the country and ones filing are winning and it just keeps going.
Linsay Graham, the owner of a beauty salon in Salem, OR opened her business on May 5th despite the governor's stay-at-home directive. She has been fined $14,000 and is facing additional fines if she continues to keep the business open. The salon is in Marion, County which has the greatest number of COVID-19 cases in the state. If it were a stand alone business, like a furniture store, it would be allowed to open, but because it is a beauty salon, it is not. Clearly, the shop owner is being made an example of because when she opened, it was all over the media.She'll blame it on sexism and the charges and fines will all be dropped.
(https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200515195844-salem-salon-owner-reopens-exlarge-169.jpg)
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/15/us/oregon-salon-reopens-against-state-orders-trnd/index.html
Linsay Graham, the owner of a beauty salon in Salem, OR opened her business on May 5th despite the governor's stay-at-home directive. She has been fined $14,000 and is facing additional fines if she continues to keep the business open. The salon is in Marion, County which has the greatest number of COVID-19 cases in the state. If it were a stand alone business, like a furniture store, it would be allowed to open, but because it is a beauty salon, it is not. Clearly, the shop owner is being made an example of because when she opened, it was all over the media.
(https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200515195844-salem-salon-owner-reopens-exlarge-169.jpg)
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/15/us/oregon-salon-reopens-against-state-orders-trnd/index.html
Good for her. She has started the fight in Salem. Hopefully it will catch on. :)
Linsay Graham, the owner of a beauty salon in Salem, OR opened her business on May 5th despite the governor's stay-at-home directive. She has been fined $14,000 and is facing additional fines if she continues to keep the business open. The salon is in Marion, County which has the greatest number of COVID-19 cases in the state. If it were a stand alone business, like a furniture store, it would be allowed to open, but because it is a beauty salon, it is not. Clearly, the shop owner is being made an example of because when she opened, it was all over the media.
(https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200515195844-salem-salon-owner-reopens-exlarge-169.jpg)
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/15/us/oregon-salon-reopens-against-state-orders-trnd/index.html
When will you start fighting back?
Or, are you all talk like most getbiggers, waiting for someone else?
Coach, the more I think about this, the more I think you should get involved in the fight. You seem very passionate about this cause, and you're the one who started this thread. Even though others are already fighting the fight, there is still much to be done.
So, what is the game plan, and how will you contribute in the fight? I would recommend starting with your face piece. Throw that thing in the trash.
I am fighting back. In numerous ways.
The trump rally from a couple of years ago was fun. Here where we’re at we’re going about our business for the most part, I work for a candidate here in HB and will be volunteering for Trumps re-election. Most of my wife’s family are in politics, one being the former head of the RNC, my brother in law is a delegate as well as council and my sister in law was in charge of both the Trump and Bush transition teams. I’ll be at the RNC in Charlotte along with my family (wife’s side) needless to say, I’ll be doing my part whatever that may be. The fight will be to vote these assholes out of office and politics completely.
All this bluster from pro gun people yet as a nation they cower like pussies due to a virus hysteria.
If she takes this to court she’d win, maybe not the first time because of the liberal/activist judges up there but if it went as far as the Supreme Court, she’d win hands down, slam dunk. The constitutional lawsuits that are being brought are winning.
What court is she going to take this to? They are closed. They’re only processing criminal cases.
If she takes this to court she’d win, maybe not the first time because of the liberal/activist judges up there but if it went as far as the Supreme Court, she’d win hands down, slam dunk. The constitutional lawsuits that are being brought are winning.
If she takes this to court, it will likely cost her more than $14,000. If she wins, she'll prove a point. If she loses, she'll be out $14,000 plus whatever she has to pay an attorney plus court costs. Seems like a no-brainer to me.
Linsay Graham, the owner of a beauty salon in Salem, OR opened her business on May 5th despite the governor's stay-at-home directive. She has been fined $14,000 and is facing additional fines if she continues to keep the business open. The salon is in Marion, County which has the greatest number of COVID-19 cases in the state. If it were a stand alone business, like a furniture store, it would be allowed to open, but because it is a beauty salon, it is not. Clearly, the shop owner is being made an example of because when she opened, it was all over the media.
(https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200515195844-salem-salon-owner-reopens-exlarge-169.jpg)
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/15/us/oregon-salon-reopens-against-state-orders-trnd/index.html
If I’m not mistaken the losing party usually pays the attorney’s fees.
All this bluster from pro gun people yet as a nation they cower like pussies due to a virus hysteria.
You are mistaken. We've been trying to get "loser pays" laws for over a decade now like they do in Europe. It is promoted as a way to get rid of these frivolous lawsuits. As it stands now, you can sue anybody for anything which is why big companies just end up paying off the crybaby as it's not worth the cost to fight it. If the loser had to pay people would think twice before they decide to sue.
And your guess would be right, it is the Left that opposes "loser pays" laws.
I’m just going by my divorces...lol
We have to be locked up but this is ok....
Los Angeles Times
April 20, 2020
Corona Virus Attacking Nursing Homes With Poor, Unsafe Infection Track Records in L.A. County
The vast majority of skilled nursing facilities battling outbreaks of the novel coronavirus in Los Angeles County have been cited in recent years for violating federal safety rules on preventing infections, according to a Los Angeles Times analysis of nursing home data.
The new site’s review found that 89% of facilities with the coronavirus had previous infection control violations that ranged from mishandling patients with highly contagious bacterial infections to not properly cleaning ventilators and other equipment.
What you trying to do Coach?
I’m down.
If I’m not mistaken the losing party usually pays the attorney’s fees.
I’m just going by my divorces...lol
Yeah well, the only real winners in a divorce are the attorneys.
Yes, otherwise there are no winners. Especially if they have kids.
Perhaps people should think more before they enter marriage, seems people take it too lightly today and obviously don't even consider or care about the effects on their children.
Can you guys fill me in how youve been fighting been since this thread started nearly a week ago? Thanks
Knewsome is starting to crack. He’s already eased the no deaths for 14 day requirement.
That fucker has been on vacation with his family in Montana.
Dude, a couple hospitals in San Diego county have had to furlough because they never had the COVID rush they wanted and have turned away people who needed to see doctors for other reasons. Now they're losing a shit load of money and complaining about it. Such a fucking disaster.I’m a nurse in a San Diego hospital and had half of my shifts CUT in April bc the hospital was a ghost town
We ought to get a recall going. There is zero chance he will keep up the show as he is eyeing the oval office eventually and a recall will basically end his chances for good. How many votes do we need to get a recall on the ballot? It's some percentage of the voting base or population I think right? Shit I'll go door to door 7 days a week collecting signatures to get my gym back open.
I’m a nurse in a San Diego hospital and had half of my shifts CUT in April bc the hospital was a ghost town
We have never had more than 5-10 covids at a time
I began paperwork for unemployment but thank god ppl in San Diego are getting tired of restrictions and finally coming to hospitals again
Think it’s still time to keep America closed???
Count me in. Down for whatever and willing to travel.
Going to a gym reopening shortly. Full report coming.
An "unlawful" reopening.
Politicians with their God like "orders" have forgotten that this is a Country run by the people. Americans have shown care and concern for the small percentage of sick and elderly at risk of death, and rather than receiving the respect we deserve, we get more orders and warnings.
This ends when Americans say it ends, unless our rulers plan on arresting 330,000,0000 million people.
I’m a nurse in a San Diego hospital and had half of my shifts CUT in April bc the hospital was a ghost town
We have never had more than 5-10 covids at a time
I began paperwork for unemployment but thank god ppl in San Diego are getting tired of restrictions and finally coming to hospitals again
Think it’s still time to keep America closed???
Los Angeles County officials are the worst - trying to extend this lockdown as long as they can.... unreal... even San Diego is opening May 22nd, it looks like... these idiots are pushing for July 4th now...
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/l-a-county-health-officials-to-give-update-on-covid-19-outbreak/
They won't be happy until unemployment in Los Angeles reached 25% and business shut down for good. Sadly, many people will be going shopping, eating out and enjoying places outside of LA County because of these idiots. Soon, they will cry that they are out of money for schools, and everything else so they will need to raise taxes asap. These guys have to go.
Why are Jews so overwhelmingly Liberals? Democrats and the Left have always been anti-Israel
Interesting statement, considering that I know many Jews, myself included, that are NOT liberal at all. In fact, over 30% of Jews are not. But alas, 2/3's are. But many younger Jews are evening it out.
As for Los Angeles County, the idiots are still not letting people go anywhere, except for curbside, BUT the county, after a ton of pressure is looking to open some cities in the county instead of punishing everyone (10 million people) in the county. For instance, Santa Clarita, Woodland Hills, West Hills should of opened a while ago, yet tied into a hotspot 40 miles away.
As for Ventura County, they opened this past Wednesday, so many people from Los Angeles County will be headed there to eat at restaurants, hurting LA business even more
In what ways have getbiggers fought back?
In what ways have getbiggers fought back?
In what ways have getbiggers fought back?
Bodybuilders are used to 'going to war' and 'doing battle' in the gym, so this is a tricky situation.
In what ways have getbiggers fought back?
Instead of injecting 3 grams a wk, they are upping the dosage to 3.5 grams a wk
Interesting statement, considering that I know many Jews, myself included, that are NOT liberal at all. In fact, over 30% of Jews are not. But alas, 2/3's are. But many younger Jews are evening it out.
As for Los Angeles County, the idiots are still not letting people go anywhere, except for curbside, BUT the county, after a ton of pressure is looking to open some cities in the county instead of punishing everyone (10 million people) in the county. For instance, Santa Clarita, Woodland Hills, West Hills should of opened a while ago, yet tied into a hotspot 40 miles away.
As for Ventura County, they opened this past Wednesday, so many people from Los Angeles County will be headed there to eat at restaurants, hurting LA business even more
Oregon is opening up by county. Clackamas County, where I live is opening phase I today. There have been 290 reported COVID-19 cases in Clackamas County. West Linn, the city I live in has had 1-9 reported cases of COVID-19 (which could mean we've had 0 cases based on the reporting system. Wilsonville which is one town away to the south has had 12 reported cases. The city of Clackamas which is 5 miles away has had 16 cases.
You live in Woodland Hills which is 40 miles from the hot spot. But, isn't it important to know how many reported cases there are in Van Nuys or even Tarzanna since people from these cities may very likely shop in Woodland Hills, if their city is still shut down. L.A. County has had 43,052 cases. It is conceivable that people from all over L.A. county will flock to those cities which are open to shop?
If people would practice social distancing as suggested, particularly by wearing masks when in public. It should control the spread of the virus. Yet people, including Trump refuse to wear a mask to protect others from transmission of the disease. Wearing a mask is a damn nuisance, but if wearing them allows the country to reopen more quickly, I'm all in.
Wearing a mask is a damn nuisance, but if wearing them allows the country to reopen more quickly, I'm all in.
Then you are a defeatist and our forefathers did not sacrifice all for people that lay on their backs waving a white flag so easily. Move to france. Bye!
In what ways have getbiggers fought back?
They are afraid to do anything because they might be sent to jail and lose their gains or get fined and lose the resources to pay for their gains. Like many said they just keep pumping in the gym to hold on to the gains so they can intimidate more people resulting in peacefully resolving conflicts which would otherwise turn into a bloodbath.
Then you are a defeatist and our forefathers did not sacrifice all for people that lay on their backs waving a white flag so easily. Move to france. Bye!
Then you are a defeatist and our forefathers did not sacrifice all for people that lay on their backs waving a white flag so easily. Move to france. Bye!